ACHP 602 Palmer Returns From Nicaragua: Tobacco School, Factory Tours & Celebrity Cigars

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Speaker 1: Hello, all you people out there in TV land, it's me again, Phil McGuffey, and here we go. I like how you embrace the entire name now. All right, we're gone. I kind of missed all that.

Welcome to Cigar Hustler Podcast, premium cigars, unfiltered opinions, and conversations with no boundaries. P. Palmer, back from Nicaragua. Hello.

Yay. Joined by my co-host, Mikey, I'm glad Palmer's back, Stefan Kevich. I am glad you're back. And then over in engineering, we have Phil McGuffey, star of the original movie, Behind the Purple Door.

I am not glad that you're back. Behind the Purple Door. On today's show, whoops, sorry, I'm a little ahead of myself, I'm about to practice. This feels light.

From cigars, sports, and business, to pop culture, and the wildest headlines, if it's worth discussing, we're gonna talk about it. No scripts, no safe spaces, just real perspective, big laughs, and the chaos at any moment. Settle in and welcome to a Cigar Hustlers Podcast. Sleep me alone.

Hurry up and bye. It's a long week. It's only Monday. It was a long week.

Oh. I completely understand. But first on today's show, a wrap up of my trip from Tobacco Land. The man with the smallest penis loses his record.

Congratulations, Phil. All right, let's talk about the shows that happened while I was gone, then in cigars, we got another festival, a new cigar, and a shipping notification, but Mikey, tell us how we get some of that CHPod swag, and let's hear all the comments about how much everyone missed me. We missed you tremendously. Oh, during the show?

'Cause I had to watch it in YouTube? We had a lot of commercials, did we? Oh, a lot of commercials. - Like who is it though?

- We're like two guys, well there was an ED commercial, there was a loan commercial, I mean it's really weird stuff. - That's good, right, I love it. - Was there like a Rent-A-Wheel commercial? - Rent-A-Wheel?

- Yeah. - I don't remember that. - Well, if you pay for YouTube Premium, you don't have to do anything. I'm not paying for YouTube Premium.

I usually upload the show. - Well, like and subscribe, we're reviewing and listening to the show. com for all your chpod swag. com, Us Cigar Hustlers podcast, where we're gonna release two this week because I recorded one and I didn't put it up for you.

So you're gonna get, you're gonna get two. - So they still get their entire money's worth. - Yes, you're still gonna get your money's worth. Triple G, Superstar shirt, still available.

I have a, I have a image for you that I want you to review with me for an upcoming particular holiday, which I think you'll like. Nice, nice. And, um, yeah, let's get into some comments. From the CH Pod Lounge, the, I'm sorry to interrupt, the, uh, logo for Superstar?

Yeah. Can that be put on his office door? I can get you a sticker. That would be funny if we put one on his office door.

- Oh, like it's his dressing room? - Like his dressing room, yeah. Superstar, superstar. All right, let's see here.

" Bravo, gentlemen, bravo. And you're still the man too, Mr. Phil. - Thank you.

I feel like you read these comments. - No. - Okay. - I did not.

Did you read them earlier by yourself? - No. - In A Dark Place? - I don't watch the show.

- You don't watch the show? - Like before you shot your big scene in Behind the Purple Door? - Yeah. - No.

- They did, they did a good job. I would not be opposed to them doing One Day a Week. - I don't know if that would work. - But.

- Why? - It would free us up one day a week, like the day I could go visit stores. - Yeah, okay, well, you'd have to ask them. - Well, obviously.

Does it free up like me and you and Phil still comes in? Yeah, Phil still have to be here. Somebody's gotta run the board. He's a household name.

I know. He doesn't want to miss any of his notes. Feeling sickly. You know, I knew that would be the floor.

Yeah, Greg came to my house after he got out of the plane. That he would not want to come in if you and I were not here. Yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.

So, we bring Ryan down to run the board. No, I think that realistically, having additional subs that are closed like this is awesome. Yeah. Right.

That was my thought. Oh. You know, I wasn't thinking about putting them on. It's a lot, man.

It is a lot. One show a week, though. Yeah, okay. Okay.

He did one show a week with a sport thing. Right. What happened to that? Well, yeah, but that's him.

No, no, no, no. Hold on a sec. Somebody moved away. He's got excuses.

And the other guy was working. I was available. Yeah. So he couldn't figure it out, so he just packed up.

Just gave up. Took his ball and went home. Right. Did Preston do a show last week?

Yeah. Good. Yeah, I did it for him. Oh, look at you.

You did. So, like, you say it. Like, what's the big deal? It's once a week?

Because we do it five days a week. I guess you got a point there. But a lot of people would struggle to consistently do it, even when you provide the data and give them the info for the pod. Well, I was thinking Ziggy would want to make it more beer-oriented, and he could do his own stuff.

I think that you're giving somebody a job without really consolidating, consulting them. " I mean, you would have to talk to them, obviously. And we've already figured out that you can get on the road even still, you know what I mean? Well, yeah.

So, um, @HouseofRaw says, "No lawsuit as of yet in relation to the 18-year-old Lily and likelihood it's probably not. " So you remember that, what we were talking about? Where the 18-year-old? Yeah.

Do you remember that story? No. You found it for us. Well, I mean, I found five days worth of stuff, plus all this tobacco knowledge I have now.

all of it all of it like your head's big now it's full so it exploded seven times yeah and it is no homo but his ass probably doesn't feel good there's would you you would you know this firsthand oh yeah from your own experiences well i'm sure paul won't talk about it and he said he's gonna talk about his trip so yeah yeah yeah so we don't want to jump ahead Okay. At House of Ross also said-- It is funny, I'm sorry, it is funny if he's saying the same reason I am that your ass hurts from this trip. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Obviously, I'm not talking about the other one, Palmer. But I complained about that the entire week. Yeah.

That's why he rode on the back of the truck. For some comfortability. Well, it was a two-seater truck. He had a sub in, he had to give his car, Alex had to give his car to somebody else.

That day. So you took somebody else's truck? Yeah, we had a two-seater white Toyota. So it was you, Greg, and Alex in that car?

Yes. In that truck? Yes. " So I just glimmed in the back.

It's not like it's the first time I've been in the back of a pickup truck. Could be the last time, though. I almost did it again. That could have been the last time you were ever in the back.

Oh, are we going to fill out? Yeah, the bumps are a little rough from the back of the truck. I mean, they're bad enough in the front. Yeah.

" Bloody. Bloody ridiculous. Bloody ridiculous. What the hell?

The idea is to reduce tobacco use and health harm caused by it. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what sort of tobacco it is, it all gets painted with the same brush, hence why they try to make it less affordable. Bro, the land down under has some crazy creatures. Don't walk between trees at night, 'cause you may walk straight into them big-ass spiderwebs.

Brother Phil would be sweet with his magical unicorn. Laugh out loud. I don't know how he's using the word sweet. Use the horn to knock away the webs?

Yeah. Oh. Yeah, he wasn't saying anything nasty. No, yeah, I was just...

He meant nasty, I'm sure. Okay. I wouldn't walk into the spiderwebs anyways. I'm sure you can see these tarantulas.

Yeah, you wouldn't go outside. Yeah. Right. He'd make somebody walk in front of him like his wife.

Yeah, exactly. Mm-hmm. Or one of his 75 kids. Well, they're too small.

It's true. He's got one big one. Yeah, but like me, they don't talk to you. Yeah.

" The fireworks, the remote was out of batteries. Listen, I adapted, I did everything I could. All these small things that happened. I figured it out.

I navigated through it. Palmer never run out of batteries. What's going on? Palmer runs out of batteries.

I know where the batteries are upstairs. Well, now I fix a problem for you down here. Right. Yeah.

No, it's never happened again. They didn't win. Keanu won. No, he didn't.

Yes, he did. No, I thought we tied. No, you tied Steve or somebody else. No, you beat Steve.

You tied Groover. You beat Keanu one because I sandbags you you could have played like ziggy played yeah that's okay i was reading the i started reading the shows beforehand oh i thought that was a good i mean i was watching and then he i'm like how is he playing too and then i figured oh he hasn't seen the ends can't do the last one right michael z chitown says mike is dying to get back into the co-host chair i can see that look in your Yeah, I was ready. I was ready. I was done.

It was too much. There's a lot going on. And between redoing the sites and coaching ramping up and running the podcast and then running the businesses, it's a lot. It's a lot.

But we made it. We did. All the shows were released I did it Eventually With great edumatainment They were all on time Except for one Oh It looked up from the comments More than one was off No Okay One was only two hours late Alright Other than that Everything was on par Okay Don't get so defensive Don't tell me that I fucked up When I didn't I didn't Yes you did I said ish Team Money says Great shows all week Even with Palmer Trying to sabotage them They didn't sabotage me. There was no news that day, so I made up fake news.

It was good fake news. I gotcha. Michael Jordan's back. Ridiculous.

Well, you should have seen the name they originally picked. They're like, "He doesn't even play basketball. " What was it, Justin Bieber? I don't remember at this point.

No, it was, I don't remember. I think it was a football player, but they made him play basketball. I'm like, nah, it's not gonna work. Okay.

If you want to hear your comment read aloud on the show, simply comment below on this YouTube, or more importantly, go to our chpod lounge and comment there. The lounge. Now on with the show. Can you make like a, just on the chpod lounge, can you make a one that's like always at the top that just says something like gathering place or lounge or something, where they can just generally comment back and forth?

- Sure. - Like a, sure? - Like a little chat room. - A chat within the chat?

- Yeah. So like now it's set up, they can make comments on the shows. Somebody says something, somebody comments on that, and then is there like a Facebook page type of thing? Where people can post stuff about the show that's not particularly about an episode, but they can all go to one place and see it?

- I can do whatever you want. Is that what you want? - I'm just asking, I just came up with the idea. - You always have these requests.

- I'm just, you know. So many requests from you. I mean, you get confetti. Well, I didn't ask for the confetti, but the confetti's nice, and I look forward to it.

That one day I didn't get it, I was so disappointed. Did you show Skip? Yes. Oh yeah?

Yeah. I called him yesterday. He didn't want to talk. " Oh, what time yesterday?

Uh, in the evening. Oh, while we were traveling. Uh, he might have been tired. I'm like, "You good?

Are you lonely? " Yeah, that's probably what it was. He had no way to hang out with anymore. " Nice talk, yeah.

I started to watch a Creekside interview. Oh, his? Yeah. It's really good.

It is good. I didn't know a different guy did it, because I did the audio. Well, the one I'm watching, Dave is doing it. Oh, I saw clips from a guy with orange hair in an orange hair.

Me too. I'm very confused. So am I. I thought it was that guy all the way through.

But it sounded like Dave. - Maybe they, uh... - Maybe they, because at one point they moved to another room. - Oh yeah?

- Because it's so loud out in the lounge. - Oh, so they... - So maybe the other guy took over when they got in the back, or wherever they went. - Oh, that sucks.

- I didn't notice it, I didn't notice with the voice change. - Hmm. - Why would, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know.

- Why would Dave leave? - Hmm. Maybe he had to go or something. You know, Skip can be a little long-winded sometimes.

- He can. It's true, right? Because being out in the lounge was driving me nuts. Yeah?

Yeah. Why? The background noise and everything. It's very distracting for me.

I have issues. I'm aware. And the Postana site is up. It's not, it's not completed.

Oh, I didn't even know you were doing another one. Mm-hmm. The Postana site is up. And then what I did, what I did was it, it has retailers by state.

Yeah. So you can just click it and you can see if there's anybody close to you that has it. Yeah. Oh, that's great.

I've been getting asked a lot lately. Yeah. So the easiest thing to do now is you can just throw them to the site. Well, yeah, certainly.

They can just hit the state. Kind of rough the other way. Yeah. And there's a...

You gotta look and see where they are, and then you gotta look and see what it's near. Right. And then they can... Retailers can email you directly there as well if they have questions, and they have access to the portal there.

Wait, retailers can email me directly? Yeah. Oh, nice. Is it about opening up?

Oh, good. Mm-hmm. It goes right to you. I broke two pair of glasses in Nicaragua.

We could tell. Yeah. I saw a clip of a guy talking about Niagara Falls. Yeah?

Somebody sent it to me. I think Fran sent it to me. " Oh, did he? Because he said, "Niagara Falls," and it sounded, whoop!

Oh. Oh. Like the hard R. Gotcha, gotcha.

And then it just brings me back to every time you say Nicaragua. Oh, yeah. By the way, they don't really roll their tongue when they say it over there. Yeah, how do they say it?

I don't want to say it because it sounds like the other way. There's no way. Yep. I paid attention.

I don't believe you. Right. All right, on with the show? I think so.

I think I'm ready. Now you're ready? Are you ready? I'm ready.

Okay, good night. We can do this one of two ways. Yeah. I can just hit the highlights.

Okay. But what Skip suggested, plus first, Skip's a lovely man. He was an excellent host, and we had a great time. I just want to get that out of the way.

Whew. Yeah, get all that out of the way. What a relief. He wanted it, on Monday I did this, I wore this, I ate this, I sat in this chair.

Really? Detail. The way that your mic sits, it's ruffling. I hear ruffling, how do I fix this?

I don't normally do it this way. Yeah, I didn't know if he was, like, doing something with his throat, or... No, I normally have a collared shirt on. Oh.

There you go. It's not going to rub still? Eventually? It shouldn't be as bad.

Okay. Is that because it went around the corner? Yeah. Ah.

Went around the corner. So, we left the first day. Not a problem. Phil's the next movie.

We left the first day? No, it went around the corner. We flew into Panama, but then we left Panama, we go to take off, and then they have a medical emergency they gotta pull back in. Oh, no.

Yes. What happened? Well, they didn't pull back into the airport, they just pulled off the runway. And they just dumped the person off?

Yeah. But apparently some young lady started throwing up all over herself. Oh, good. And her neighbor.

Oh, no. But her neighbor was her friend. It was a girl in her 20s-ish, and it looked like they had several duty-free bags with them. Oh, so she went a little hard in the bank?

I think she started a little drinky-drinky. Gotcha. Right. And then, you know, couldn't think to grab the air-sick bag.

Yeah. So, when they put her on the little wheelchair, the little skinny wheelchair, called her down her thing, vomit all over. Nice. Everywhere.

Ugh. Then the guys had to come on and clean the plane. They replaced the seat belts. That's cool.

Yeah, so, I mean, it must have been that bad, we cannot clean this, we must take these. These are no good. These are no good. No bueno.

No bueno. And then her friend looked really embarrassed, he's the one carrying all the liquor, duty-free bags, since they got off the plane. It's a walk of shame right there. Right, no kidding.

Yeah, he stopped the whole flight. And they dump them, you know, the ambulance come, drives out from the airport and dumped them right there on the tarmac. So that was, we were delayed two hours. Okay.

Two hours taken off. Vomitgate. Vomitgate. Got it.

Right. " Yeah. Which is nice, I wanted to stay to his house, it's on my cigar bucket list. Oh, really?

Yeah. Yeah, you know, you can plan all you want. Sure. But the reality is, the tornado that is Roma Craft.

Yes. Is going to set you into a different course. Right, you sort of go with the flow. You know?

Yeah. I mean, we just got to SLE a day later. I mean, well, kind of, because we didn't really get there until after dark. Because you have to wait on Skip to get up.

It is kind of ironic, though. Like, the guy who's so neurotic and kind of like OCD compulsive about specific things. Right. However, the way the day goes, nobody knows.

Nobody knows. You know? And, apparently, when he got up that morning, because he wasn't out yet when we showed up, when the driver brought us to his house, he threw out his bag putting his pants on. He's getting old.

Yeah. So, for the majority of the trip, he was lean over, skip. Oh, man. That's gotta be mental.

Yeah. I mean, I've had that happen several times. Luckily, it hasn't happened in a couple of years, but, yeah. So, you know, as the week goes on, he's progressively standing up straighter and straighter.

- You wanna get that? - Yeah, you wanna answer that? Is that the movie studio? - No, Skip the call.

- Oh, make sure Palmer says that I hurt my back putting on my pants. - Wanna check how his butt hurts? - Yeah, he's like, that's not how it happened. - That's not how it happened.

- I already know he's saying it wrong. - Yeah, screwed that up. - Right. - Well, you got a good day of cushions?

- Yeah, I mean, you know, when we got there, I went in the pool, so I could take the pool picture, and then, you know, we had... - The sex? The sex? No, I'm trying, oh, then he took us down to the bay to have dinner at this nice seafood restaurant.

And then sex down by the bay? No, we didn't have sex. I did end up with Fiorello's room again with the smaller bed. Yeah, that's what you get.

That's what I get, yeah. " No, you wouldn't have. " Yeah, he pops in, "Oh, it's a twin bed? " It's kind of like taking the front seat of the car, it's like, whatever you want to do.

That's not how you handle that. Oh, he just got in. Yeah, you know, you say, I'll get in the back. That's what you say.

No, no, you sit here, I will get in the back. Not, ooh, whatever you want to do. When Greg saw Palmer get in the back of the truck, he did like the Ace Ventura, yes, yes, yes, yes. He just got in the front really quick and shut the door.

He said, poof, poof, whatever you want to do. I'm good with whatever you want. Clink. Close the sliding window on the back of the truck.

Back to the truck. And no, there's not a lot of snacks up here. Yeah. Right.

We didn't keep him in the front at all. We'll be fine. Turn on the air. Palmer, you all right back there?

You okay? Hold on, big bump. Oh, there we go. Oh, is he still in?

Oh, I think we lost him. Can we pull back Alex and go get him? I think we lost him. Yeah, we lost him.

I told him he could sit here. You heard me say it, right? Right. Confirm that.

All right, Tobacco School started the next day. Okay. So I got up and went with Alice at 6:30 to open the bodega. So Greg pulled night duty with Skip.

I went out at midnight, Greg stayed till I think three that day, maybe four, I don't remember. I stayed one night till 2:30 and I was a zombie, I mean I have no idea. We were sitting out front and then they range the chairs where I'm sitting here, Greg's here and Skip's here and they're just talking back and forth basically. Because I'm doing this.

" - Where are you at? Is that at the hotel? - No, we're at the factory. - Oh, you're hanging out at the factory.

- Hang out at the factory, hang out at the factory. So tobacco school was two and a half days. - Yeah. - What they did the first day was they brought up the tobacco, this is this tobacco, that is that tobacco, touch the tobacco, feel it, see how it's sticky, see how it's rough, you know, smell it.

So Skip was there for that day, you know, and it's this shape, so that's how you know it's this, and if it's got a point, it's that, and the different primings, so it all gets rather confusing after a few minutes, but the second day, they set it up just for our brand, so I had a sheet with our blend listed for every single cigar, and then they made the I got one of these little Fumas for me, that is every tobacco, there was a set of four for every tobacco that is in every cigar that we have. Nice. So, you smoke it, so you get a Fuma and you get a little pile of the leaves, so you can touch it again and you see how it burns, you light it on fire, you smell it, and then you smoke one of these. Then after you smoke all of these that are in that cigar, then you smoke the cigar and see if you can pull it out.

Right. So, I did that for... Habano. I did it for Habano and I did it for Connecticut.

No, I didn't do Habano. I did it for Sumatra and Connecticut because some of the other ones, they overlap. The different tobaccos are in the same cigars. Yeah.

So, I didn't have to do all four because I'm just repeating what it was. Okay. So then after you smoke it, you fill out these sheets and maybe these scorecard things. Oh, nice.

I don't know if you can see that. Yeah, you can see it. So there's a scale from one to five on the combustion, and then you make a note about it. There's one for aroma, same, one to five, and then what you thought it sort of smelled like.

And then flavor, again, one to five, and if I could pick out certain flavors or something in it. And then strength, how strong I thought it was. So as I'm doing this, I'm deciding what I want to put in my cigar. Like, oh, I really like this one, I really like that one.

" And I just went, . There it is. I want this. I would like this.

So then Alex makes you a bunch and lets you try it, and everybody tries it. Well, that's right, me, Alex, and Greg. " So I wanted a Habano wrapper. So then, Why'd you go with Habano?

I liked that one the best out of all of them. I didn't want to do another Connecticut. There is, I'd have to look and see what the name is. You liked it the best?

Yeah, I like the Habano wrapper the best now. The Connecticut has something in it that I didn't like, and now when I smoke the Connecticut, that's all I taste, is the one. Really? Oh, 'cause you individually smoked it.

Right, individually smoked it, and then I was like... So now you pick up on it. Right, so now I know that's there. And it's just because it's just a little, it's that little bit of a sour that's in that cigar.

- Mmm. - But when you smoke it separately, it's a lot of sour. - Well, especially when it's fresh. - Right.

So now that's when I, I mean, I had one this morning, but now when I smoke it, I taste that sour tobacco. - Well, you better figure it out, buddy. - Well, I didn't say it was bad. - Keep smoking it.

- You're so angry, so angry. - Yeah, I mean, there's a week of bent up anger that I have to just release now on you. You know what I mean? - Oh.

- Right. - Yeah, it's like the Dragon Ball Z. Like it's been building. You know, Palmer, when you were gone, I mean, it was very nice.

Very nice to you? Yeah. Oh, good. See?

We'll get that back in the right pattern here. Don't worry. He'll screw up three or four things and get me jaded. No problem.

He will. I mean, he will. No, I'm talking about you. Nah, it'll be fine.

So then the next day, I ran errands with Alex. And I got to meet Maximilio, the godfather of tobacco. Oh, the godfather. Yes.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. So we pull up to what looks like a... Do you have to kiss his ring?

No, no, no, no. They have to kiss his ring. Was it his... I'll put up the...

That's the picture. I have a picture. Was it his daughter's wedding day? No.

Because then you can ask him whatever you want. Right. That's what I heard. Yeah, no.

That's what they said. So anyway, he was not expecting us. So we pull up to this, what looks like an old gas station. And he was naked?

No, he was not naked. Well, he wasn't expecting him. Well, yeah, but still. Maybe he didn't have anything.

But there's no cars at the gas station in the bays. He has tobacco. Okay. So Alex was looking for tobacco for a friend of his who has a small factory who needed something specific or something.

Right. And Maximilio knows, everybody knows everything he does. He's the guy. He's the guy.

So, to be polite, he didn't have anything to give us, so he gave us an ear of corn. Nice. Because he had corn. Right.

Apparently. That might have been his lunch or something. So Alex is eating the corn, and I'm, you know, eating enough where I don't, I don't want to offend the godfather. Right.

But then I start thinking... How do you watch this? Yeah, yeah, right. Is this been cooked?

Because... Right. It doesn't taste cooked. No, it's not.

Right. Well, apparently it was. " But when we left, I only ate enough so I wasn't rude. Where Alex ate the entire thing.

Yeah. I go, "Look, we just ate that raw corn. " I got news for you. When they say that you're gonna be fine, it doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna be fine.

Yeah, yeah. Well, when the second one happened, Skip said I'd be fine, and I didn't trust that. No, not at all. But I didn't get sick.

" Oh, no, no, you don't eat salad. We stayed away from vegetables the entire week. And seafood. Well, I had fried fish, I mean, you know.

Okay, that's good. Yeah, that was, no sushi, I mean, they had sushi on the menu, not eating sushi. But they have the little kitchen back in the corner. Did Greg have the sushi?

No, Greg had fish too, but he had a whole fried fish. Like Airplane? You remember the movie Airplane? Yes.

I'm sorry, you've jumped somewhere. Is this the first day still? Oh, no, no, we're on like the third day now. I mean, there's two and a half days of tobacco school.

I didn't feel there was an easy for you to watch. I mean, I could open these and smoke each one of you want to watch. No, you're good, I just, I didn't know where the seafood came in. Oh, the seafood was in San Juan del Sur.

Well, because we were talking about Maximilio, who ate the corn or whatever. Right, ate the corn. Okay. And, you know, right.

I love the whole time Palmer's worried about, he's gonna die. Well, yeah, I mean, if you get it over there, it could really be a problem. Well, they, supposedly, supposedly, they have the medicine there at the stores. Well, yeah, at the Pharmacia, they have everything, from what I understand, but still, I don't want to have to go there.

Yeah. Right. You know, and then, you're still... The Purge is not fun.

Right. Right. You don't? Yeah.

You know what, I mean, I don't care, somebody's got the medicine somewhere, but I don't want to get it. So, obviously, Greg got it. No, no. Greg got something...

Greg's got, like, the flu or something. " Yeah. You know what happens? Here's, you know, Brady and I were talking about this.

Here's the theory. It's like he goes and he kind of sobers up for these trips and I think at that point then he travels while sober and his body's just so not used to it. His body's used to like everything just dying because he's always on alcohol and then he introduces himself to these different environments where there's all these different things and his body just can't respond to it. He was drinking rum at night with Skip.

Yeah. But I mean, I don't… But he pre-not drinks, right? Yeah, I don't know what it was quantity against what he normally drinks. Yeah, I think that it's not even close.

Right. So Skip had his special rum. I saw that. That he blended himself.

And apparently everybody doesn't get that. Only a select few. He said it's only for family. Sam and Rosie actually commented.

" Oh. " And he goes, "No, you didn't. " So Skip had a suggestion, Alex had a suggestion, and then they did my original, we blended all three. So that's the pictures and stuff and the footage I put up, that is them bunching it.

So which one did you like? Of the three, which one did you like? Well, I don't want to tell you because I wanted to get your opinion from smoking the three. Well, why the fuck am I smoking this pig?

Well, because I don't have them. Greg should have been here by now. Greg ended up with them. Oh God, now they're sickly.

Right. Yeah, I thought I had them, but at some point, He must have swaged, and now he has them, and my dirty clothes, so. He's rolling in your clothes right now. Yeah, you got to wash those three times.

I have to wash them anyway, I mean. Essence of bomber. Oh, this is great. Look, underwear.

There's the underwear. Did anything fun happen? The whole trip was fun. Nothing stand out?

Nothing like, "This is awkward"? Come on, give me something. Well, I haven't got to the factory tours yet. We did the factory tours.

Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Let's continue. So the one factory, I can't say where it was.

I'll say on the Patreon, but I can't say where it was because they don't do tours like this. Okay. So the man who runs the factory and his daughter, who speaks English, gave us the tour. Okay.

So that was more, I mean, he's been doing it since he was 10 years old. It was a nice factory. I'll tell you obviously off the air what it was if you don't already know. Yeah.

So he's walking us through, showing us everything, and it's all, it's like the romance of tobacco, you know. Right. He's, you know. He's beautiful.

Yeah. He's dodgy, dodgy, dodgy, dodgy. Do you feel the felty? Right.

So then the second factory we went to was AJ's factory. Okay. That's like a mall. Yeah.

I mean, it's freaking huge. Did you get coffee? Uh, no, I didn't get coffee. Did they offer?

No. Wow. But I got a private tour, I mean, at AJ's. Yeah.

I got my own tour. Did you see Justin's bed? Uh, I saw a room they said they put him in. Yeah.

That might be it there, I guess. Justin said on Facebook, he can't believe I got in, he's gonna have my picture put up by the door, and it'll never happen again. Wow. Which would be great, put my picture up by the door, that's fine.

Yeah, and Justin doesn't have that kind of leverage. Nah, he doesn't have that kind of leverage, you know what I mean? No. I did get to see where the fire was, I mean obviously the fire's been cleaned up, and the new building is about 75% done, we got to walk through the new building.

Right. And then we got in a car and drove to where they're making the cigars now, which is, I think it's on the same compound, but you don't walk there, it's too far away. Right. Yeah, so they walked through everything, but that tour was more, because Mario, the guy that gave the tour, has a degree in agriculture, I mean, these are all things that they tell you, but he was more like, this is the photosynthesis that takes the chemicals in the plant change, and then it tastes like this, and it was more the scientific side of making cigars, where the first guy was more the, you know, the old school, you know, we made, you know, we rolled it on our thighs, where at AJ, there's big bright lights and 75,000 people rolling cigars.

Right. Yeah. So that was, let's see what else we got. It was a factory visit.

It's Mario. Oh, and so is Z's factory. Yeah. With the new addition to it, where they made the original BDP.

Showed the guy a picture. , I guess he'd be called, because it was the Alex's, the owner's son. He didn't remember it at all. I think it was three or four years ago.

He might have been there. Yeah. I don't know. He goes, but we could make you one now.

And I'm like, well, you're going to go. We're okay. We're good. We're good.

We're good. oh, we had dinner with Hector, two nights. Yeah. The great...

The great Hector Alfonso. Hector Alfonso, yes. Leading blender of Espinosa. Exactly, yes.

Did you kiss his ring? We hugged. Because apparently you need to... Yeah, I paid a lot attention to him.

I sat next to him. He wants you to hold his hand like this? Yes. When you're eating.

Yes. That's what I heard. The second dinner, I sat right next to him and I held his hand. Yeah, that's good.

Last night we had dinner with Santos. He said to tell you hello. With his wife that now owns an ice cream shop. Sancho?

Is it Sancho? Not Santos? I thought it was Santos. I don't know.

Then nobody talked to me. No, no, the box guy is Freddy. Oh, he went to Freddy's factory. He used to be the label guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, um, and then- Mucho Weasel. That's my guy. Oh, Francine ate dinner with us, uh, Indiana Ortez and her new boyfriend, which Skip, just kept calling the new guy.

Nice. Apparently she has a lot of boyfriends. Hmm. Uh, I'm trying to think who was sitting down at the end.

Dun, dun, dun. Oh, Alex and, uh, Alex brought his, uh, fiancee, wife, girlfriend. Nice. Uh, at the place where they cook on the hood of the car.

Okay. You never been there? I think so. Yeah.

Down the street from the factory. So Skip decided to explain the name BDP to them. Ah. Yeah.

And Post Nut Clarity. Yeah. And Viso Horning. Mm-hmm.

Right. So that was a lot of fun. Then we went to Managua. And we stayed at the Intercontinental there in Managua, - Where apparently Skip knows everybody there.

- Yeah, it's like a revisit to society when you get back to it. - Right, yeah, yeah, that's like, oh, back in civilization. - Yeah. - Oh, look at this.

- It's crazy. - They have a KFC now. - Do they? - Lying around the building out, and it's been open for like three months.

- I'm sure, it's a big deal. - Poor Tip Top. Nobody ever take me to Tip Top, I want to eat Tip Top chicken. - What's Tip Top?

- Tip Top's the local KFC, but it's everywhere. - Really? - Even as you're driving through the little podunk towns On the Intercontinental Highway thing, every once in a while there'll be a random tip-top. And you wanted to go to this?

Well, not to that one, because the ones on the highway look like it used to be a gas station, or it used to be where they change the tires, you know, the little stalls, where they change it, sort of look like that. But the one in Esteli looked nice, and it's in the center of town. So, it was a good trip, had a lot of fun. Skip and I crashed a '90s dance party in Managua at the hotel, because he wanted a place to smoke.

" So we walk in, and then he sees a waitress he knows in the dining room, from when him and Arlen stayed there after Fiorella was born. So he knocks on a glass, she comes over, he says something to her, and then she comes back with the manager, they all talk about something. Then they bring a table out from the dining room, set it up behind the dance party people, strip off the fancy tablecloth, bring us a couple of chairs. - Ah, yes, Mr.

Martin, right away. - Yes, sir, right away, sir, please. And a boy comes over, and then the next thing you know, we're drinking rum and coke and smoking cigars for four hours. Yeah, it was a good time.

I had a lot of fun. Learned a lot of stuff. It's not just rolling up tobacco. No, it's not.

No. It's not. You know, you think it is. " No, but the funny part is, it's so much easier to say, "I don't know shit," and I just work with the guys that know shit.

Right. That's like, you know, anybody else who gives you the whole like the fucking woohoo. Right. They're just so full of it.

Yeah. That's so funny to me. So Skip describes our type of blending. Yeah.

It's like vibe coding? No, it's like bowling where they put up the things on the lane, the bumpers, and they get the little metal thing in the middle. You're still bowling, but he's gonna make sure your ball doesn't go in the alley type thing. Ah.

Which is fine. It's like vibe blending. Well, all the hard work's done. Right.

All the accumulation of the tobacco, the fermentation, the curing. Right. Yeah, they went through all that the first thing. Sorting.

Right. The deveining. That's what the money's for. Right.

I should have said that to him. We do everything. Well, that's why we pay you. Yeah, we give you the money.

We give you the money, and then you do everything. And we acknowledge all the hard work that you do, and how grateful we are that you do it. Exactly. So the only bad part of the trip, when you go to the bathroom, you got to throw it in the garbage can.

Yeah. You don't want to clog the pipes, buddy. Yeah, I understand why you do it, but I mean, Greg still told me that on the plane. Yeah.

" I remember Skip saying something about Buster likes to eat it, so they have new garbage cans now with lids in all the bathrooms, so he can't get into the garbage cans. That's good. Right. But that was the only part.

Oh, and the butthurt thing. There's not a decent chair in that country. I mean, if you get 12 cushions, you could take over the country. There is.

They're just in the vehicles. You have 12 cushions, you could take over the country. You could take over the country with 12 nice cushions. Yeah.

In the bodega, the cushions are in the back. In the office? Yeah, they have these little couches, and I took those up to the front. Oh, yeah, I saw the couch.

I took those cushions up. I was like, I'll just sit on these. I didn't want to not look like I, you know, I didn't want to look special. Hey, that, hey, your butt, I know you're still feeling it.

Gringo Gordo. Well, you know, you're in the car for five, six hours. It doesn't matter how soft that seat is, your butt's gonna hurt. Yeah, all the bumps and everything.

Right. And then, you know, you're driving around town, and then at the factory it's that really nice, fancy, handmade wood chairs. I can't believe Skip, I mean, Norther's back went out. I can't believe he sits on that one chair till four o'clock in the morning.

" Ah, tell them Palmer's here. I said Palmer, then I said Greg died. Right. Did you get stopped on the road at all when you were traveling?

Uh, in Managua we got, uh, waved and pulled over. Oh yeah? Linea Continua? Um, what?

Solid line? Did he pass the solid line? No, no, they were doing every- it was a- Random check. Yeah, random check.

They were looking for driver's license and insurance. Yeah. Just put your head down? I was in the backseat.

I always rode in the backseat. You screw up, they take your driver's license. You have to go back, you have to go to town and get it. Oh.

Yeah. Well, Skip was very nice to them, so. Yeah, no shit. Right, yeah.

- That'd be nice. - It's like a mouth-off to the cop. - Ah, yeah, no problem. - No problem.

- Greg, it's in the glove box, hand it over here, please. - If you could just give them that. - Hand me that, that would be nice, thank you very much. Yeah, no problem at all, or enter, whatever, enter.

- Okay. - So I guess that's everything. Unless you have questions. - Palmer made it into work, and Skip died, or Greg died.

- Greg died, yes, yes. Greg is homesick. - Do I have questions? - With my underwear.

With my dirty underwear. With my dirty underwear. With rolling in your dirty underwear. Well, my wife gave me those bags you put your clothes in and then you suck all the air out.

Mm-hmm. So, those are great. I don't ever travel without borrowing the bags again. Without the sucker bags?

Yeah. So, Fred Rui wrote a column right before we left and he talked about going to cigar events and stuff. Mm-hmm. And he made the suggestion that he always puts in outfit to wear home on the plane so it won't smell like cigars.

Yeah. Why? Because he's being polite to the other people on the plane. They should just start smoking cigars.

That's what Greg said too. What about the lady that threw up all over herself and her friend? She's fine. So I had one left at the end of the trip where I had sealed an outfit in.

Yeah. So I know when I got to that bag, that's the end of the trip. Yeah. So I put all the dirty clothes back in the bags, and then I brought the little air thing.

Okay. That way also you get more stuff in your suitcase. That's smart. Yeah.

But it was nice because Joe-- I mean, I smoke a cigar on the way to the airport. Yeah. Oh, well, I mean, it was a five-minute ride from the hotel to the airport. " Well, nobody's gonna say that because they're being polite.

Well, they have to deal with it then. Well, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I smell like a man. Women smoke cigars too, especially in-- It's my man cologne.

Oh, we went to the Flor de Cana store at the mall. Did you go to the mall in Managua? In Managua? Oh, they have a tobacco.

No, I'm generally working when I'm there. This is on the way out, Michael. Yeah, I don't, we don't stop. We don't have any time.

You have to eat dinner. The restaurant was at the mall. No, it just feeds us. It just throws rice and beans in the pan and I'm just going.

No, it doesn't. Yeah. If I never see another plantain, I'll be perfectly happy. They wear breakfast every day at the other time.

Oh yeah, they're delicious. Well, they're delicious till you're on day six. Oh. And you're like, I don't want another plantain.

Leave me alone. No more. But I ate it anyway, because what else are you going to do? Yeah.

option. Anyway, there was a tobacco-scented candle at the Florida Kana store that was nice. I should have bought it, but I was afraid it would break on the way home. But anyway.

I missed my plug with you, Palmer. Your plug? Yeah, I should have asked you. You picked me up a couple of bottles of Cristalino.

Oh, and I'm not a hollowback booze for anybody. Yeah, he wouldn't have done it for you. There's people going, hey, you're going to be at the factory. Get me a good cigar that nobody else can get.

I'm thinking, if I can get a good cigar nobody else can get, I'm smoking it. What am I doing? What is this? You know, we're going to bring it all the way back from you from another country?

Here's a thought. Get on a plane. I went. Right.

Exactly. I mean, he does this for other people. Brent Strand was just there from Train Car. Okay.

Great, man. Well, I'm glad. It sounds like you had a good time. It was.

It was a great trip. Trip of a lifetime. What was, like, nothing awkward happened? Nothing funny?

No, I mean, it's a pretty standard trip, I guess, I mean, there was a lot of things that were fun, but nothing awkward, nothing embarrassing, nothing, no. What was your favorite part? I liked the factory tours. I mean, obviously the tobacco school was amazing, but the factory tours, seeing like Z's factory that has seven pairs, and then Skip has 12, and then you go to AJ that has 75,000.

Yeah. Was AJ there? know we didn't meet him did you hug no only AJ but you're right his initials are everywhere of course everywhere on the trucks on the outside of building the inside the building there's pictures of them on the walls yeah yeah everything everybody's shirt no coffee no no we didn't have any coffee hmm why it was supposed to be coffee there's always coffee I mean I had coffee a lot of places yeah cafe is pretty good Nestle yeah they have a new one that we We went there last day, it looks just like a Starbucks on the inside, exactly the same, but the best part was when they're playing 80's music, the waiter spoke perfect English. Really?

Oh. Right. The barista? No, he was a waiter.

He was a waiter? There was a barista over there behind the counter, but he was, yeah. A younger guy. Were there baristas Starbucky?

Yeah, I guess. The lady that owned it was kinda... Purple hair? No, no, no purple hair.

The lady that owned it was dressed like... Steve Irwin, I mean she had on like a khaki, short sleeve shirt, and jeans, and she came over and said something, I don't know, I told her I liked the place, but I have no idea what she said, she could have told me that it was something in my teeth. " Yeah. No, you're a dumb white person.

Right. Oh, so Greg got his exit rows on a plane, so they have to come over and give you that little speech? Yeah. And then, so the steward, stewardess, whatever it is, you know, they always go, "English or Spanish?

" Mm-hmm. " You should have said no. You said K. That's why I told Greg, I said, I'm gonna learn like a phrase, like, is that the door I open if there's an emergency or something?

La Puerta? " That's awesome. Yeah. Nobody ever assumed I spoke Spanish.

No? Not at all. Well, I mean... Yeah, right, yeah.

Dude. " The only whiter guy I know than you is Keanu. Right. Well, but I have the white hair and the white beard, so I would think I would be whiter.

I would be wetter. You look like... He could maybe be Spanish in some of these countries. No way.

Yeah, he's got the dark hair and everything. He just looks so pale, though. And then you look like the... What was the guy's name from Me, Myself, and Irene?

You know what I'm talking about? I don't know his name, but I do know the character. I hate both of you. I did not bring any gifts for anyone, just so you know.

Aww. I thank God. I don't want any gifts, man. I hate it.

I do. The pregnant woman statue for you for the level of abundance. Yes. Yes, thank you very much.

Did you have the squeaky cheese when you ate your breakfast? Oh, it is squeaky cheese. Yeah. So the first thing I get it, I'm looking at it, I'm thinking it's little pieces of French toast.

Yeah. So I, you know, I load up on my plate, I'm like, I'm tired of eating the rice and beans. So I put, you know, a bunch of them on my plate, and we go, well, okay, there's no syrup. Maybe they don't do syrup, fine, no big deal.

" Eat one or two of them, and you're like, "Well, that's enough of that, I'll cover them with my napkin when I'm done," and then I'll leave. - Put that away. - Put that away, put that off to the side. - Sometimes that was the only thing I looked forward to on breakfast.

- Was it squeaky cheese? - Yeah. - The eggs weren't bad, and one day there was some type of sweet, like breakfast cakes or something. That was good, but then I never saw it again.

- I don't want to spoil you. - I spent that one day. Yeah, so it's the red rice with the red beans, the eggs, which, you know, the fake eggs, but they throw a bunch of ham and peppers and stuff in them. And mix it up a little bit.

Yeah, so you can't taste the fake eggs. Distract it. Right. There's a sausage that they have trimmed into quarters, so like one side's round, one side's flat.

Yeah. Or you get the bacon, which is also made out of the sausage, but they put little black spots on it, so you think they fried it. Right. Exactly.

It's always the same thing every day, but it's included, so. It's the Hex, baby. You ride the Hex? Yeah, so you eat up, because you might not eat again until five o'clock.

That's how that works. I would go to the little, there's like a little gas station right there by the Hex? Yeah, the AM/PM. Yeah, I would go get snacks.

Yeah, well, I did the second to last day or something. Greg had to have a nap. He's dying? Yeah, that was shopping day.

That's when I got, Adrian wanted a bracelet. So we went to the mall, Greg got the suitcase that we needed to haul the dirty clothes home so we could put cigars in our suitcase. " And he gave me the word. I'm like, and it's like two minutes before the lady's gonna question me, so you're going, "What?

They think I have drugs? " - What do you have? Druggles. " - Right.

Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho, Pyrrho. No, Greg has them, not me. Not me, it's that guy. He's got all the rings.

He didn't wear them, he didn't take them. Oh. Yeah, he kept it simple. Yeah, well, it's a hassle, he doesn't scare you, I gotta take them a lot.

Oh, you think so? I just think that, look, you know, you don't need to be... Yeah, right. Yeah, and I mean, his wedding band's, you know, his wedding band's this long like it is anyway, so.

Right. I would go again if you guys needed me to go, but I don't think I would ask to go again. Yeah? What Greg should have brought was a multivitamin.

Yeah, I mean, he only had aspirin with him. I mean, I had bug spray, sunscreen, ammonium, aspirin, you know. Did you pack it, or did your wife? No, I did.

Yeah? Oh, his wife packed for him, for the first time. Yeah, Advil. He had no toothpaste.

First day I had to loan him toothpaste and then we went and found toothpaste for him. Struggle's real out there. Yeah? No, I, you know, I'm glad you went.

I am too. Thank you very much. I'm glad you guys took me, sent me whatever the right wording is. It's definitely worth going.

Like I said, trip of the lifetime. Good experience, you know? Oh yeah. Now hopefully you understand the blends of the cigars.

Oh boy. Because now you got, you know, you're Fuma, man. There will be a test. There will be a test on this.

There's already been three tests. One written, one oral, and a multiple choice. Oh. And Skip kept trying to get everybody else to ask me questions.

Yeah. Yeah. Palmer's went to tobacco school. Ask him a question.

Fuck, not again. No speaker... Que? Que?

Que? BDP? You know, you should have just started speaking Chinese. Don't you know Chinese?

Well, that's funny. The key never worked at the hex. You only get one day's worth of key. You gotta go up and down every day.

So when I would go down to explain the lady didn't work, I would switch into a Chinese accent like she's gonna understand what that was. This no working no more. A bum-pum-sing-cum-pum. Yeah.

You gotta keep it simple. Ching-chang-choga-choga. Key is jave. Yeah.

Jave no bueno. That's it. Oh, jave, I would think that was coffee. Yeah, no, that's just cafe.

Just cafe. Right. Yeah. Well, yeah.

Cafe, Coca-Cola. There's some things that are universal, apparently. Un refresco. Un refresco.

Refresco. Soda. Yeah. Yeah.

A lot of Coke. A lot of Coke Zero. Had a Pepsi Black, because they didn't have Coke Zero. Nice.

You can only get that over there. Only over there? That's what Skip said. I don't know.

Only in Esteli. Well, no. That was in Managua. Only Nica.

Only Nica. Okay. Oh, you want to take that? Oh, you want to take that?

Is that Greg? Just take it off your wrist. I don't know what the problem is all the time with this guy. Can't you mute?

All right, so I guess that kind of wraps up the show. Oh, really? I thought there was other things. What else do you want to say?

I got one story, then I got some tobacco stories, and I got a double up what's the score. Well, you're already at an hour, buddy. I'll just go to what's the score so I can win. This guy.

Go ahead, you can save the news for tomorrow. God, I'll do the what to squirrel. Kick your ass real quick. Oh, there we go.

I hope it's not the Pustania Habano. I feel like I got a, I feel like you got a, well, if it was half wheel, I got a solid 20. " Did you block him? No, I wanted him to be my friend.

So I could send him messages all the time. I don't have his phone number. Did you block him? I'm fast forwarding quickly.

You gotta go through an entire thing of dark. You know, one show we should just all wear like Nike sweat pant outfits. Oh, Charlie Minato? Yeah, we'll just do like a tribute to Charlie Minato.

That's what he wears? He wears warm-up suits. Very expensive looking warm-up suits. He's very rich.

Yeah, I'm sure he is. Is that Davidoff money? Did he used to work for Davidoff? What?

Did he used to work for Davidoff? No, they pay him. I'm going to pay him. Oh, wow, that's nice.

Yeah. Marketing dollars. Oh, we'll talk about that on the Patreon. Okay, Patreon.

Which we're going to be reviewing this. Yeah, what are we doing on the Patreon, Michael? Back a little, right there. The Ernie Encore Toro.

Compliments of CCW? CCW. Yes, thank you. All right, now it's time for the industry's favorite game.

What's the score? Did Groover, when Groover played, did he win? No. No, he did not win, but he did bring the bang.

It was a tie. Can you predict a cigar's score from a half-wheel review before it's revealed? We'll give you clues. You make your guess.

As the review unfolds, the answer gets closer. Or does it? Dun, dun, dun. The closest guess wins.

Let's play What's the Score? Today's first cigar, August 21st, 2026. Speaking of Charlie, Charlie Minato is a reviewer. 72.

It is the AG Cigars Legendary Moment, Jamie Foxx. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Celebrity cigars today, gentlemen.

Oh, boy. Two celebrity cigars. Oh, boy. You want me to go first?

I'll go first. You want to go with what you said? No, I'll say 78. Philip?

I like 72. That was a good number, 72. All right, AG Cigars Legendary Moment, Jamie Foxx, it is from Nicaragua, Factory, JTA Tobacco Company, SA, Wrapper is Ecuador, Binder is Nicaraguan, Filler, Dominican Republic, Peru, and Undisclosed. Length is five and nine tenths by fifty eight, round twenty seven dollars, they smoke three, eighty.

Seventy two. Clue number one, oh, the rich nuttiness, creaminess and cedar created a full flavor profile with some excellent progression through the second third. Seventy eight. Did you get any of that when you were there, Palmer, nuttiness?

Yes. Yeah, that's why his butt hurts. Oh, wow. No, it's not.

Wow. I'm just going to go and say it too. Let's just move on from that. Phil also agreed.

You go to Ashley, hang out with Skip, your butt's going to hurt. That's what he said. I didn't say the nuttiness. I got to tell you, I've gone, I've never had any butt hurt.

You don't hang out with Skip? Yeah. My butt never hurts. Yeah, exactly.

Oh, so what are you saying? What are you insinuating? " No, I don't do that. I just tell him I'm going to bed.

Well, that was option two. As the week progressed, you had different excuses. " Yeah, I mean, I'm on, listen-- Alex, don't leave, I'll be right there. If you have your own podcast, you're called multiple things all the time anyway, so we're into it.

" "You're going to say I wear a dress too? " Alright, clue number two, the retro hail was the highlight, bringing lively notes of tart berries, pepper, leather, and earth that added real complexity. 76. 72.

Clue number three. Reoccurring burn issues required touch-ups and the final third became increasingly burnt, sharp, and one-dimensional. Oh, you want to talk about burn issues. Burn issues.

74. All right. 71. It seems to be a trend.

74, 71. Yep. Final thought. She take my money!

"From my perspective as a reviewer, this was an incredibly interesting cigar to smoke. The three Jamie Foxx legendary moment delivered flavors to the palate in ways that was quite unique. The lingering forever sensation that has been mentioned a lot, it's the thing I'll remember the most about this cigar. " I'm curious to continue to smoke, though, more of the AG Cigar Portfolio, especially to see if the unique finish qualities become a reoccurring thing.

Oh, wow. 78. Philip? Man, he said the average celebrity cigar.

80. What did you say? 78. You went the right way, 85.

Oh! It's better than the Sumatra. That's what I was thinking when I saw it. That's, yeah, that's, yeah.

I'm gonna have to hold my comments. Yeah, well, you ran it higher than me. Uh, do you listen, you don't listen to the Two Guys podcast on a regular basis, I'm assuming? No.

We did in the car, Skip listens to it. David is now saying you went the wrong way. Oh, copyright. Yes.

Copyright, retain it. We know he listens on occasion. I love it. That's good.

Yes. That's good. We're making him better. Yes.

Oh. We're building this industry. Yes. One podcast at a time.

They were doing some type of contest type thing, and he went, oh, you went the wrong way. Uh-oh. Yeah, when you are the leader, they will follow. We are the trendsetters.

All right. Second cigar, September 22nd, 2024. Two days before my birthday. Oh.

Patrick Le Greed Cigars, Dominican Republic. 0 Undisputed Habano Toro. It's hard to find celebrity cigars, some names just stick out. It's hard to find this one too.

Nope, not now. It's your turn. I've had this cigar. I'm going to go 72.

82. 0 Undisputed Habano Toro, Country of Origin, Dominican Republic, Factory Tabla Calera El Artista, Rapper, Ecuadorian Habano, Binder, Indonesia, Nicaragua, Nicaragua, and Andescoz. And then it says next to it, Criololo 98. I never thought that out of school, I guess.

By the way, our birthday, and I'm going to go with 72. Wait, there's more. Oh. It's a 6x54, it's round, it's $19, and they smoke 3.

Okay, now you can say you're 72. 72. 82. Clue number one.

The lighter Habano Profile offered an enjoyable mix of sweet creaminess, toasted wood, caramel corn, and black pepper. Well, that was short. 72. We're running out of time.

82. The retrohale improved considerably in the second third, adding enough pepper to complement the creamy core and increase the flavor intensity. 72. I wasn't paying attention.

'82. Creamy corn, intensity. Creamy corn and intensity. It's a Maximilio's corn beer.

He was such a nice man. I mean, he's like 852 years old, but he was such a nice man. Did he make this? The corn?

No. No, I don't think he makes cigars. He just deals in tobacco. He made the corn, though.

Yeah, he made the corn. It was a zero of corn. Well, I mean, he was trying to be polite, and he had nothing else to offer. I would have looked at it and been like, I'm not eating this.

You know where this has been? You go, basura, and hand it back to him. It means trash. Serious combustion problems plague two samples, including uneven burns, flaky ash, and repeated relights in the final third.

72. 80. Final thought. 0 Undisputed Habano Toro credit.

The profile was not what I was expecting for a cigar billed as having a Habano wrapper, as instead of leading with the typical flavors of wood and pepper, the origins of cigars started with creaminess and built those other two in by way of a steady progression of the flavors. The profile still gets to the point where it is easy to identify it as a Habano-forward blend, it just takes a fresh way to get there. But I also have to hold the cigar accountable for its construction and combustion as two cigars were rife with problems leading one cigar to show that the cigar should do one cigar to show what the cigar should not only was combustion an issue the first two cigars but both had issues keeping the burn lines even something I don't find in many cigars these days there's a lot more but it's just bad stuff let's just say it's bad stuff plaguing they use the word plaguing oh plaguing 72 77, you went the right way, 87, did you point, did you point, 87, also better than, 87, yes, also better than, those are, you know what those are, those are pretty, pretty sparklers, this is ridiculous, how did you get around the side, did you move it over in the side, I moved it when you weren't looking, ah, I mean I don't care, I just, I didn't put it there, I can feel it on my head, do you underestimate the sneaky sneaky, hmm, how was the podcast you did, I'm still sorry I missed it. Oh, it was really good.

Yeah? Yeah, man, they're good dudes. I didn't even know you did the podcast. Yeah.

Yeah, we were, but when I had scheduled that was before the trip got scheduled, and then, you know, you forget things. You gotta make sure they're on the media list. All they have to do is send me the information. I asked them to.

Okay. I mean, you got my phone number. Mm-hmm. We were chitchatting.

But yeah, it went really well. Good. It's good stuff. They're good guys.

Good deal. Yeah. I'm on one Wednesday, but I don't know off the top of my head I'll find the name for tomorrow. Okay, good.

I have to go to Tampa live in studio. Oh, very nice. Oh. Okay, well, hey, like and subscribe, we're reviewing and listening to the show.

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I wore this. Oh. Sorry, I lifted it up and blew into it. Hurry up and buy.

Pull the Greg there. Pulled a Greg. Yeah. Sorry.

Okay. Uh, yeah. Crown Heads event this Friday here at the shop. Yep.

If you're in town, come see him. See us. And that's all we got. All right, guys.

Thank you very much. We gotta go. Bye.

Show Notes

Palmer Returns From Nicaragua: Tobacco School, Factory Tours & Celebrity Cigars

00:00 – Palmer returns from Nicaragua

01:10 – Traveling with cigar-smelling clothes

03:05 – Food, plantains and shopping in Managua

04:45 – People asking Palmer to bring back exclusive cigars

05:50 – Was Nicaragua really the trip of a lifetime?

06:35 – Palmer’s favorite part of the trip

07:15 – Comparing small factories to the massive AJ Fernandez operation

08:25 – Nicaragua’s version of Starbucks

10:00 – Airport adventures and being mistaken for a Spanish speaker

11:30 – The infamous squeaky breakfast cheese

13:15 – Eating the same hotel breakfast every morning

14:20 – Shopping for Adrienne and buying another suitcase

15:20 – Customs concerns: Do the dirty clothes look like drugs?

16:35 – What Greg forgot to pack

17:40 – Palmer reflects on the full Nicaragua experience

18:20 – Tobacco School, tests and Skip putting Palmer on the spot

19:30 – Hotel key problems and Palmer’s questionable language skills

20:45 – Wrapping up the Nicaragua conversation

21:20 – Charlie Minato and the tracksuit tribute

22:30 – Patreon cigar preview

23:05 – What’s the Score? begins

23:50 – AG Cigars Legendary Moment Jamie Foxx

25:50 – Jamie Foxx cigar final score revealed

26:35 – Tyson 2.0 Undisputed Habano Toro

28:40 – Construction and combustion problems

30:20 – Tyson 2.0 final score revealed

31:00 – Upcoming podcast appearances and Tampa trip

32:00 – Crowned Heads event and closing announcements

Palmer returns from Nicaragua with stories from tobacco school, factory tours, questionable hotel breakfasts and traveling with a suitcase full of cigar-smelling clothes. Plus, the guys play “What’s the Score?” with celebrity cigars from Jamie Foxx and Mike Tyson.