143 Mikey fights at Universal
Episode Summary
Episode 143 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens with Mike Stefankevich and producer Mike Palmer in their usual loose banter — broken Xikar collapsible scissors (and the endless warranty wait), the shop's first "Chet and Palmer" Friday night event, and a candid discussion about pandemic-era business: capacity limits, mask mandates, and their view that owners and customers should be free to assess their own risk. Mike recounts a trip to Universal Orlando operating at reduced capacity, how theme park layoffs have hit Central Florida, and why Disney's logistics (trams, monorails, strollers) make it a tougher trip with small kids.
The news block covers several real releases. Warzone, the collaboration between General Cigar and Espinosa Premium Cigars, is adding a box-pressed short Churchill at 6 1/2 x 48, debuting through Espinosa's online La Zona Palooza packages (November 12–14) and hitting retail shelves in November in 20-count boxes, along with an additional limited run of roughly 500 boxes of the Robusto. The hosts recap Warzone's blend — Espinosa's first Cameroon wrapper over Honduran binder with Colombian and Nicaraguan filler — and riff on which company "director of operations," Hector Alfonso Sr. or Jack Torano, would win a fight. Next up: Crowned Heads has pushed The Lost Angel, its 2020 TAA Exclusive Series cigar and the prequel to the Angel's Anvil line, to the TAA's 2021 meeting because of COVID-19. They walk through the Angel's Anvil backstory and its parallel to Jon Huber's own path from CAO to co-founding Crowned Heads with Ernesto Perez-Carrillo, plus The Lost Angel's specs: 6 x 52 Toro, Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper, Nicaraguan binder and filler, made at EPC in the Dominican Republic, 1,000 boxes of 25 at $11.75.
Also covered: Tatuaje's event-only Shrunken Pumpkin, a 4 x 50 short robusto with a Mexican San Andrés wrapper over Nicaraguan binder and filler, rolled at My Father Cigars in Estelí and debuting in late October via a virtual Smoke Inn event with Pete Johnson; plus the historic Arturo Fuente and Padrón collaboration series and Fuente's Rare Pink breast cancer awareness release timed to the 25th anniversary of Fuente Fuente OpusX. The hosts also note new arrivals at the shop — Guaimaro and the War Bear — which they're resting before release.
The back half goes off-script: Mike tells the story of nearly getting into a fight in the Universal guest pass line with a group of blitzed park guests, the sports segment digs into Dak Prescott's gruesome ankle injury and franchise-tag situation, and they debate what LeBron James was actually smoking in his Lakers championship photo (consensus: a Cuban or a Padrón, definitely not a $9 Connecticut shade). They close by naming John Crabtree Listener of the Week and teasing a Patreon review of the Charter Oak Habano.
In This Episode
- 01Broken Xikar Scissors and Shop TalkThe hosts vent about repeatedly breaking Xikar collapsible cigar scissors and the hassle of warranty returns through Quality Importers.
- 02Pandemic Business, Capacity Limits and MasksA candid discussion of reopening, mask mandates, restaurant capacity and why they believe risk should be left to owners and customers.
- 03Universal Orlando at Reduced CapacityMike's trip to Universal, theme park layoffs, mask enforcement and how COVID hit Central Florida attendance.
- 04Warzone Gets a Short ChurchillGeneral Cigar and Espinosa's Warzone adds a 6 1/2 x 48 box-pressed short Churchill, launching via the online La Zona Palooza packages.
- 05Crowned Heads Delays The Lost Angel to 2021The TAA Exclusive Series prequel to Angel's Anvil is postponed, plus the blend details and Jon Huber's history with CAO and EPC.
- 06Tatuaje Shrunken Pumpkin Event CigarPete Johnson's event-only 4 x 50 San Andrés-wrapped short robusto debuts at a virtual Smoke Inn event.
- 07Fuente and Padrón Collaboration Plus Rare PinkNews of the historic Arturo Fuente/Padrón series and Fuente's Rare Pink breast cancer awareness release tied to OpusX's 25th anniversary.
- 08Almost a Fight at Universal and What LeBron SmokedMike's guest-pass line confrontation, Dak Prescott's injury, and a debate over LeBron James' championship cigar.
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Transcript
Welcome to a Cigar Hustler podcast episode 143. Still the number one show on Podbean. 17,000 weeks. I am your producer Mike, well, Mike too.
And your host as always, the king of cigar media. Michael, boom, boom, Stefan Kevich. Boom Boom. I had a boom boom this week.
Okay. Dun dun dun dun dun. My, uh, my, my, my scissors are broken. Again?
Dun dun dun dun. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. Mike Square. Mike Square.
Either I have to sit up, or I feel my microphone is very high. Somebody do a show in there over the weekend? Maybe. My scissors are broken.
The Britney show? I can't wait to do that show. I can't, I don't understand how they break. I'd let you use mine, but I'm afraid they'll break them.
No, I'll make do, but I'm just... How do you keep breaking your scissors? It's just frustrating when it happens. Do you have the Romacrab scissors or the Zeichar scissors?
Well, they're Zeichar, but they're Romo. No, I'm gonna send it in. They won't send it back. Yeah, it's never happening.
Just get another pair out there. I'm gonna get another pair as well when I send them in. I'm not gonna go rogue without... Biting the ends off for six to eight weeks?
Don't be ridiculous. No, I actually, I use my fingernail, you know, you just do-do-do-do-do-do-do, in a pinch, you just shoom, nice little circle. I don't know how that works. And it's good to go.
I'm a trained professional. However, I am not gonna wait for Xycar to come through with the new scissors. Is it actually Xycar, or is it Quality Imports? Well, they're the same.
Quality Imports, Xycar. Does anybody else make collapsible scissors? Yeah, you know, but these are probably the best ones. I know that's not saying too much.
The best ones 'cause they break. They're not saying, I know that's not saying too much. Might have never stopped touching them, Mike. I gotta adjust.
I go through these. I just smoke more than you, Mike. This is kinda... I'm here working now five days a week.
I don't have time anymore to smoke. Yeah. I did get through a whole cigar today. I think I might cut back to like two a day.
I meant two. Two, maybe three. Ooh, Friday? It's like five.
75? It's a long day. Five. Long day.
We had our first Chet and Palmer show. It went really well. Maybe that's why your mic's messed up. Well, we didn't do it in here, out there.
Oh. We run the thing out there? The Chet and Palmer show? Chet and Palmer show.
Yeah, it was a very nice little Friday. We filled this place three times. Three times. We're cleaning up all the chairs and an extra table.
That's awesome. Nickel and dime our way through the night. Nickel and dime. No incentives for anything that night.
You had, but you did like giveaways and stuff, didn't you? We did. But there was no, I mean, you didn't have to buy anything to partake, but this week, because, I mean, there was nothing we could, I went, buy a cigar. Everybody bought a cigar or a beer.
So you're just making them buy three? It was just the two of us, and it was hard to keep track, you know, because you're running a tab, so then you've got to look at the tabs, and you've got to figure out who's bought what. Is that lady with that guy? Did they get two?
No. I mean, you know. Sounds complicated. We gave out four or five prizes.
Everybody was happy. That's nice. You know, they had a good time. A lot of tips.
We did very well. That's how you know you do when they give you a lot of tips. Oh. Well, the register didn't ring very well, so.
No, I told you. We nickel and dime our way to the number. No, we're at the end, we're like, that can't be it, and we're hitting the register, there's gotta be something wrong, that can't be it, and we're looking at the receipts going, this thing's broken, but we'll do something different this week, maybe a little more of an incentive, some type of thing that can help get that individual tab price up. Hey, you know, I mean, all of a sudden, albeit what it is, I mean, I think you guys did well.
We had a good time. We had some people here. We had a good time. There was a lot of new faces.
There's this whole pandemic thing that I feel like as the weeks kind of progressed, people are just like, fuck it. It just gets worse. Like, they, you know, no one cares anymore. And I can't argue with people not caring.
Like, I just can't. I see that some people are still following the guidelines and, you know, doing whatever they think is best. Like, I saw this lady at the gym today. She was yelling.
A. " Oh, they're announced it over the intercom system? " Did she have a mask on? She did, and then I took off my mask and worked down next to her.
Well, if I'm within six, we're six feet away. That's the rule. There you go. " I can't, it's so hard to...
It's so weird that if you watch the news still, I mean, we are 100% capacity, you can go to sports events now, everything back open, but they just tried to kidnap the governor in Michigan because they're still shut down. Yeah, well, I mean, listen, if you want to talk my opinion, the fact of the matter is that we shouldn't be shut down, you should have 100% capacity and then as a business owner you have the right to do whatever the hell you want. You can either, A, space everybody out still, or B, say, look, you want to walk in here, it's going to be a cesspool, you know, have it go at it at your own risk, right, like that. Yeah, we went out to eat this weekend, and I mean, everything's 100% here, but this restaurant was still, I guess we say it was Red Robin, I mean, yum, yum, yeah, I was craving a burger, so, I mean, they're a little expensive for burgers, but, you know, but the lady goes, oh, they'll have to wait a couple minutes, and we're looking, there's like 75% of the tables, are still empty i mean it was and they set us in the back with one of those uh ones where there's a booth and chairs right we had three tables pushed together so i sat in the back so i just slide you know across two and a half tables and they you know and they know that they could put more people in there but they choose not to and that's that's perfectly acceptable like that is perfect you don't want to wait go somewhere that's what that's that's how this is whole operation supposed to work here's all the data can you die from covid yes should you wear a mask yes okay how old are you are you fat do you have any other under health underlying health diabetes should you have okay now you know what your initial risk is at this point if you want to frequent a fucking bar do it at your own risk i mean you do it at your own risk prior to covid You're going to do it at your own risk after COVID.
Done. I mean, the government authority saying, hey, shut it down is fucking stupid. Yep. It's stupid.
And I mean, if you go to a restaurant and you see that they're operating 100% capacity and that doesn't make you comfortable, you have every right to not go there. Right. Just go somewhere else. There are other places like Red Robin where you can have the entire section to yourself, apparently.
Unlimited fries. I couldn't get through the first. And lots of sliding. I feel that's like one of those lost leaders, I mean, you can obviously get unlimited fries, but who's gonna eat it?
" Well, I could tell you that, you know, they've gotta be all profit. It's just potato. Well, yeah, I mean, the market has gotta be huge. Huge.
Huge. Huge. Plus, they're frozen potatoes, so it's not even like they're peeling them back then. Yeah, exactly.
" Hammer it out and just move on. There you go. What'd you start saying, sir? I went to Universal.
Oh, did you? Yeah, and they're still operating at a lower capacity. Yes. So, like, they're at full capacity.
Full lower capacity. Right, but they're probably operating at 25% or 50%. Oh, wow. Maybe 50%.
Have they laid people off like Disney? Yeah, but not as bad. Why do you think that is? Well, because I think that a lot of the stuff is – or Disney is more California, and California is still shut the fuck up.
Well, you're lucky you don't, I mean, they have rules against things all the time anyway. Right, yeah. Over-regulation and taxation. I have products that go there we had to fill out special paperwork for, and guarantee it doesn't have certain, like, this 12-page list of chemicals.
Is it a flammable mattress? Right, exactly. This mattress is not welcome in California. We understand this is a lead handle, but does it have lead in it?
No. No. Sure doesn't. It's iron.
Iron. It's an iron handle. Zinc. Don't zinc.
Zinc. Healthy for you. Zinc is good. You can just lick it.
Yeah, so I think that that's the bigger... So, yes. Well, but I mean, I guess Universal's over there, too. Where?
They're in California. Oh, is there? But you don't hear as much about it, though. No, I...
You don't. You don't. Well, I think that Disney... I mean, because when they go Disney, they'll say Disney Florida, Disney California.
I think that... Yeah, but like, you don't hear a lot about SeaWorld. You don't hear... And, you know, I think that it's probably affected Central Florida numbers, maybe like 30,000, all theme parks as a whole, right?
Right. I was having this conversation with an intelligent individual, I will not give his name. From the doctors? No, no, no.
Somebody more entrenched in the theme park industry. Don't say his name if you get it, Todd. I don't know you don't. We don't want to give him up.
We don't want to give him up. Do I know him? Oh, yeah. I wonder who that would be.
So, I think that it's definitely affected all that. For sure. You know, they had something shut down to, in the theme parks to, kind of, offset. Could you get food?
I heard food's hard to get in the, uh, theme parks. Uh, I don't. Like, all the restaurants are, are rigged up some weird way or something. I don't know, you know, I haven't eaten there.
Like, normally we'll eat at, like, City Walk and stuff, but it's, but that's like a rare occasion. Right. Like, we're professionals. Yeah, you pack, you get the kids and stuff.
We went, we ate before we left. Right, even before you. Well, you had the pass, so you're not there for the 10 hour day. No, we got there like 3:30, 4 o'clock.
Right, you're out by 7. We were out before that, and we just did a couple of rides. Something to fill the afternoon. Woody Woodpecker ride, roller coaster, you know, huge fan.
Been on that a bajillion times. Have you been to the blue people? The blue man group? No, no, no, no.
The new land over there with the blue... Avatar? There you go! That's Disney.
Oh, okay, never mind then. I don't know. I don't know. I don't go to that side of town.
Disney is such a commitment. I have no small children, and I don't like traffic, so I barely go over there. It's, you know, the biggest, I would say the biggest issue with Disney, and one of the bigger deal breakers for me is just the simple aspect of having to monorail or tram or some shit with my Megalodon stroller, you know, because we have a baby, and we have the dual action. Oh, you've got the three-seater thing going on.
Yeah, well, it's a two-seater with the stand-up, so I can cart them all together. Three-seater, right. Or Brittany strapped on the front like a Clydesdale. Yeah, it's perfect.
So, it's um, that's not very nice, you just call my wife a horse? No, I mean, you treat her like a horse, I don't know, she's a very lovely. I keep her on a pedestal. She's a very lovely woman.
I keep her on a pedestal. One of my favorite people. Yeah, you're not allowed to talk to her anymore. Hey, the thing at the meeting, she looked at me a lot, I felt like those screw ups might have mostly been mine, I mean she was, but she does know me out of the best of the group too, so I figured, well maybe she's just comfortable looking towards me.
Maybe. I mean, but you also screw up a lot. Well, I admit that, I'm trying to make my ways. Yeah, you're doing fine.
No problems today at all. No, last week was pretty smooth, so. No inline order, no online orders today at all. Mm-hmm.
Not yet? Well, I meant for my shift, my shift is over. Ah, yes, it's true. So yeah, yeah, I went to Universal, I saw a guy did a video from Disney, he was like, what Disney is like during a pandemic, and he did like five things, and he was, you have to wear a mask, which sucks, yeah, the food is terrible, the food situation is terrible, because, well, at least at Disney, you have to order online, and then you have to go somewhere and pick it up, and I guess it's, you can't sit inside a restaurant, because they don't want to fill up with people.
No, no discounts on hotels, he goes, they're still gonna rip you off. He said the mask thing, the employees don't really harp you about not wearing a mask, because if you're not there, they get laid off too. Yeah, I mean, like I feel like the first couple times, like maybe the first time I went, I felt like you had to really, there was a person at Islands of Adventure with like a megaphone. " He called you out.
No, not me, somebody else. No, but somebody else, they would call you out. " Yeah, and this time at Universal, I don't think that those regulations were as strict, I mean, but it's, you know, it's hot. I mean, obviously, the baby doesn't wear a mask.
No, she doesn't. Do the boys? Yeah. But it, you know, and they were cool with it.
They had no issues, but I could tell you that they're-- Well, they didn't do it at school, so at this point. But there have been a couple times where, like, out there at, you know, if it's 85 plus-- Oh, it's hot, I just saw, yeah. Sometimes you feel like I can't breathe. I was going to Home Depot to get yard stuff, and I was like, this is the worst thing ever, wearing a mask in the outdoor patio at Home Depot.
Yeah, who wants to do that? So, yeah. Did I miss your yoga light? No.
Yoga light? No. No. So, what else?
Are we jumping right into the news? We're at 13 minutes. That was, uh, I mean... Oh, my washer and dryer died yesterday.
A double, a double, a double... At the same time. The washer, I feel, is a belt, I feel that might be an easier fix, but the dryer comes on, but won't start, which is very strange. It's a motor.
Well, there's a fuse in there, and I Googled, and it was a lovely video on how to do it, but a little over my level of expertise, I feel, a little bit of, you know, technical knowledge. Just make sure it's unplugged. Don't fuck with that shaman. I understand it, but it was like, take this wire off, move this thing, and then you got to reconnect these.
And I'm like, hmm. I'll call the guy. So you're buying a new washer and dryer? No, I'm calling a guy.
I'm calling a guy first. Oh. If I can get it fixed for 150 bucks, it's a lot cheaper than a washer/dryer combo. Okay.
Getting it fixed? I'm not, you know, made of money like you. I have a cigar hustler money. I have so much money.
It's ridiculous. I have a cigar hustler money running around. Just, you know. The light's hot.
It's a little warm in here. Am I a stroke? Not a stroke? I think that, you know, I don't know.
You're a little out of bounds. It's kind of crazy. Last Monday, was it Monday? What other day?
Oh, I worked every day, so who knows what day it was. It might have been Thursday then. I thought I smelled burning plastic. I know.
Did we ever have this conversation? Yeah. And that was when the left side of your face went totally limp. Right.
Well, hey, listen, don't go having a stroke on us now, pal. We're beneath skeleton crew. Like, 50% of your workforce would be wiped out. I mean, usually that's what happens, right?
Usually one person leaves, and then it's like, bing, bing, bing, you're down three more people. Right. So that's pretty much what happened, right? We had Steve, he quit.
I quit! Somebody came in looking for him today. Oh, really? Oh, he said he was taking a motorcycle trip, but he was coming back.
I go, hmm, no, I'm not coming back. No, he's in Colorado. He's an extended motorcycle. Is that where he is now?
No, he's not. He's right up the street. Oh, is he back? Is he back?
Because he went to New York, I saw. Did he ride his motorcycle to New York? Maybe he is gone. I don't know.
My ear is itchy. It's a bug. I don't keep tabs on him. So we lost Steve, then we lost Naya, and now we've officially lost Jacob.
So then the curse is still going on. The curse lives on. You go on the show, you end up leaving. But now Chet was the manservant.
Yeah, but I don't feel he's actually done a real... You don't think that qualifies? You don't think that qualifies? Well, because Tall David actually did a whole episode.
He did. It'd be nice to have that guy back. Jacob did an episode. You can get Tall David back here with you three.
He can handle everything back here. Yeah. With his little notebook and everything. Yeah, he'd write that down.
What's he doing? Is he happy where he is? I think so. I can get him on the weekends.
Probably not. Probably not. Oh, and then Drew. Drew was the other one and then Drew.
Well, yeah, but Drew was like Kind of hanging on He wasn't like officially here Well, he was gonna be Yeah You know, I'm looking at your Your Cup? Yeah Yeah? And you have an Alejo band on there Okay, does that mean something? Yeah What's it mean?
So that was a cigar, I think, that Spence made Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah And we called it like The zombie guy there Yeah, like, 'cause he looks like a zombie on this, on the band and we sold a ton of them 'cause we called them like, undead. The undead guy, yeah, right up top. Oh yeah. Yeah, it kinda looks like Freddy Krueger.
Yeah, that was Spencer's cigar, that's right. Yeah. I love those, those were actually good. Those were pretty good.
That was good, good times. Good times, good times. We got Guai Moreau back in. Yes.
And then the War Bear came in too. I like to call them Esteban Mike. Mike. Esteban Mike.
So if you come in and your name is Esteban, I'll have a little Esteban Mike with you as you might be. So we're just kind of giving them a week to settle before we ship them out to people and make them accessible to retailers and customers. So I think that's necessary. Yeah, well, they spent an extra couple of days at the airport trying to figure out where they were going.
Yeah, everything's a fucking mess. But hey, we got them. This is exciting. They're here.
We're working on a press release video for the war. Yeah, did you get any of that done over the weekend? I didn't work on it. That's all you, just so you know.
Okay. You tell me what music you want, I'll cut the music and give it to you as a file. No, it's okay. We'll start scribbling it down here.
I'm going to start working on it when I'm here. Because we got a, there's like a time. The clock is ticking. The clock is ticking, yeah.
There's a time. I work better under the gun anyways. The gun has been fired, Michael. Perfect.
All right. I shall catch the bullet and sling it back at you. We're at 19. You want to chitchat for another 10 minutes, take a break, or just go get started?
I think we should just go ahead and get started. All right. Warzone's getting a short Churchill. Boom.
All new size. Warzone, the collaboration project between General Cigar and Espinosa Premium Cigars, is getting a new box press short Churchill Vitola. Well, that is exciting. , the company's director of operations, and Jack, I'm Really Tall Taranio, the company's director of operations.
Oh, wait, they're both director of operations? , the company's director, oh, apparently they are. No, I'm the director of operations. No, I'm the director of operations.
I'm the director of operations. It's me. Cigar measure, Mike, you have to fight it out. Tough call.
What do you think would win if Jack and Hector had a fight? Are they fighting dirty? Well, it's Hector, so... Hector's just gonna shoot you.
Yeah. Yeah. So my money's on Hector. If it was hand-to-hand, it would be Jack.
Maybe. I feel like Jack is... Jack would have the reach. But he's kind of like this gentle giant.
I feel like Hector would just let a lot of oppression out. Hector's fighting dirty. Yeah, he might club you. See, the cigar measures...
He's not messing... " I'm not messing around. Pull a big stick and whacks on the head. Yeah.
Cigar measures a six and a half by 48 and is slated to be available on retail shelves at some point in November. It will come in a 20 count box with pricing yet to be announced. Six and a half by 48. Whoever those who order the event packages will receive them in early November ahead of La Zona Palooza, scheduled for November 12th and 14th.
Which we have not done a story on yet, but I'm sure we will here soon. On La Zona Palooza? They're doing the online, La Zona Palooza online. Yes.
Warzone was released in November, debuted in two sizes. Not only was it the first time that the two companies had worked together, but it was also the first time that Espinosa had produced a cigar using a Cameroon wrapper. Hey. Underneath that leaf is a Honduran binder and filler, tobacco from Colombia and Nicaragua.
In addition to the new short Churchill size, Espinosa is producing an additional limited run of the Robusto, but total of approximately 500 bucks. Ayo. I believe we still have some of the regular Warzones here. here i think we're out i think there's some in there what like two sticks i don't know i thought i saw them some morning maybe you did but there's not a lot maybe no no there's not like one or two cigars all right i think we got time for one more story here if i talk slower crown heads delays the lost angel to 2021 what crown heads has officially delayed the release of the lost This is a cigar that was to be its 2020 contribution to the TAA Exclusive Series program.
It is for a familiar reason, the COVID-19 pandemic. Damn you, COVID. So Angel's Anvil is now the Lost Angel? Because Angel's Anvil was the TAA.
Yes, well, give me a minute here, it's coming next. You're working ahead again, Mike. The cigar was to be the first release from Crown Hedge for the TAA that did not use the Angel Anvil's name. Ah, there it is.
Rather, The Lost Angel was described as being the prequel to that line. Ooh, the prequel. Which has been released annually since, go ahead and guess. Uh, wait, wait, wait.
Uh, 2013. Oh, so close, 14. Damn! I was gonna give you one.
I have two right here, Michael. No, I don't have one. According to the company... Crownheads?
Yes. The Angel's Anvil story is about a wingless angel who finds a blacksmith to provide him with a hammer. Ah. And an anvil.
Yes. Which, Angel's anvil. Uh-huh. In order to create new wings.
And, you know, like a cartoon. That was meant to serve as a parallel to the story of John Huber, Crown Heads co-founder. And then the anvil was dropped on people's heads. Huber Head, who worked at the CAO until it formally merged into General Cigar Company.
Then he went on to become a co-founder of Crown Heads, and shortly thereafter began working with Ernesto Perez Carillo Jr. Ernie. On the company's first cigars. Wow.
When they, well, let's see. When the Lost Angel was announced in March, Huber said... Huber? Huber?
Huber. Huber. Huber. Huber said that the release...
Huber. explores the darker side of the story. Huber. Protagonist.
Specifically before the angel meets the blacksmith and regains his wings. Huber. The angel needed to fall from heaven. Ah, and now we can't find him.
Because he's lost. Yes. As for the angel... As for the cigar itself, it was slated to be a 6x52 Toro to use an Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper over a Nicaraguan binder and filler.
Nicaraguan fillers. Wow. For the production to be handled by... Pepin Garcia.
P. Carillos. What? P.
Carillos. In the Dominican Republic. Wait a second. We take the Nicaraguan stuff, we take the Sumatra, and we bring it all over the Dominican Republic and make it there.
Makes sense. 75 before taxes. Oh. Now the cigar is on hold until TAA's 2021 meeting, which is scheduled for April 11th through the 15th.
It's like the lost angels really are lost. That's also assuming that that happens next year. Right. According to Huber.
So then we'll be calling it Huber. His name is Huber. Hubert. Not Huber.
Hubert. Hubert. Hubert. Hubert.
So, well then, if they don't come out next year, what are they called, the Never Gonna Happen Angels? The Never Gonna Happen Angel of 2022. The kick-the-can angels? That's right.
If they could just come up with another one, why would they push it way so far back? The ever-moving goal line angels? Why don't they just offer it to people that aren't in TAA, like us? Well, maybe we should call Wes.
Hey Wes. Hey Wes, we would like to get some angels. We would like to find the angels. We would like to find the lost angel.
We would like to find these angels and try them. I'm going to try them. I'll try them. I'll try them.
Ah. It's good. You light that. I'm killing time with sugar.
All right. Well, why don't we take a break? These are rather dry still. This one's not.
Oh, well, this one sat in here for three days. That would explain that. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. We're going to take a break. I'm sorry. I can't understand it.
We're going to take a break for these commercial messages, and then we'll be right back. Is there more than one commercial? More than one commercial? Could be.
I mean, maybe you won. Who knows? All right. Who are your new sponsor?
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Episode 143. Banana. Number one cigar show on Podbean still. Number one.
Even after the break. After the break. Our breaks are number one breaks, too. Number one breaks on Podbean.
Number one breaks. I was looking for that goddamn angel during the break. Couldn't find him anywhere. Now it's still lost.
Let's call Wes right now on the phone. Hey, nah. Hey, Wes. I don't want to call anybody.
What are you doing? I feel like we should interview somebody, though, soon. Yeah, we need. We haven't done that in a while.
Who should we call? I don't know. People are starting to come out and about. Oh, get somebody in?
Yeah. Say the next event is Pedro and KD. But they won't be here. Well, we've already done both of them.
So? I'll do 'em again. I would, but I'm not gonna do- How many times you want to hear Pedro talk about his saddle? No, we wouldn't have to do the live story thing.
Oh, you know, KD is one of the lost episodes. The lost episodes. That's one of the ones that the old computer ate. Oh.
He never saw the light of day. Never to be aired. Never to be aired. Yeah.
Well, it's the same. All right, but there's a video thing. We gotta do another, we should go on somebody else's show again. That was fun, I liked that.
I like that. That was fun. We should do that. Cigar Noise was fun.
If anybody would like to have us on our show, we have a very small one-page writer of things that we need, and really all it is is have us on the show. Cigar Noise Boys. Cigar Noise Boys. We got some stickers that we're putting in orders, I think, too.
Yep, and there's one up there. Can't see it on this angle. Oh, there it is. Yeah, it's all the way up there.
No parking. That's where we put it, on the no parking side, because you can't park when you're in New York. That's true. I can't.
All right. Tatuaje's event-only, Shrunken Pumpkin. Oh. Coming this month.
Interesting. Are we getting those? No. Of course not.
Tatuaje will have a new event-only release coming out this month, the Shrunken Pumpkin, as the name would imply, is a short cigar. Makes sense. But it's a Gordo. A short Robusto, measuring 4x50, it uses a Mexican San Andreas wrapper over Nicaraguan binders and fillers.
Pete Johnson told Half Wheel, this is from Half Wheel, that the cigar will debut in late October during a virtual event hosted by Smoke Inn in South Florida. Hey! My friend Abe. Your friend?
My friend Abe. Tell Abe you want some shrunken pumpkins. I have to buy them. Oh.
We're not at that level where I just get cigars for me. We are chit chatty. We had two exchanges over the weekend. Oh.
We're getting to be BFFs. So you guys are dating. It's getting serious. It will be offered as a sale, it's just a matter of time.
Mike Palmer has changed his relationship status on Facebook to in a relationship with Abe Debenamana. Debenamana. Debenamana. Hey, they got a new producer.
Debenamana. If I had only known, they were shopping for one. Yeah, he could have been out of here. Could have been out of here.
Yeah. Actually getting paid somewhere else. Who'd have thunk it? Well, and it's not an on-air position, so I don't know that one.
Yeah, and I'm sure that you would have had to have some experience other than hitting the click button. You know, like a degree or something. Well, they actually have a person that, 'cause they're in a real studio. Yeah, they understand the whole thing.
Right, but Paul's not gone, he's just not, he's an on-air person. He's a talent now. Yes, on-air talent. I'm the talent.
Right. But they did lose that one guy with the really deep voice, I can't remember his name. He's gone, they've replaced him, so I guess there was two chances. I feel I need to update my LinkedIn.
Yeah, you're really, uh... I think I'm missing some opportunities here. Oof. Well, a cigar has a Halloween theme, it should be available well into the spring.
He says Pete. As Johnson said, he will be using it for events for easily the next six months. He said only a few events that will offer the cigar have been scheduled so far, though more should be added to the calendar. Oh, we should have him here.
We haven't had Pete Johnson on. We don't carry Tatuaje. If we only did, we could have Pete Johnson on the show. Retailers who are able to host private online events and that haven't established history with...
Wait, that's Pete. Our Pete. Does he still do Tatuaje? Yeah, of course.
He'll always do Tatuaje. We could get it. We could get it. And I've talked with Pete Johnson.
He's a nice guy. Of all the reps of the state of Florida. He's one of them. Yeah, that's right.
We'll be eligible to participate in the program. Oh. He added that only a few thousand cigars have been produced for this project, all coming out of... The Pepin Garcia's...
My Father's Cigar Factory in Esteli, Nicaragua! Yay! I don't know what I can say. That's your dad?
No. Good for you. While they are packaged into 25-cal bundles, consumers will receive five packs as part of the promotion. I have like a page left, we're gonna have to fill, let's see, this is from our friend at Cigar Coop, Arturo Fuente and Padrón announce a collaboration, Who?
Arturo Fuente and Padrón. Holy moly. Exactly. That's a big deal.
An historic announcement, Arturo Fuente and Padrón will be collaborating on a cigar series, news of this was broke by Cigar Aficionario. Cigar Aficionario, Don? It's a radio show. Cigar Aficionario of the Radio.
More news will be coming from Cigar Coop and be available on his website in the near future. Ooh, I wonder if they're going to call it docking. I don't think they're calling it docking. No, Fuente Padrón Dock.
The Dock. The Dock. Also, Otaro Fuente announces a Rare Pink Series. Ooh, available in October for breast cancer awareness.
Otaro Fuente has announced a new limited production line to benefit breast cancer research. And we're in October. Known as the Rare Pinks, the cigars are scheduled to ship in November 18th. On the 15th to coincide with the 25th anniversary date of the initial release of the Fuente Fuente Opus X.
But that's after October. You can get details on Cigar Coop's webpage. So Cigar Coop had a, he does like this, apparently this lock thing on football. Oh, I saw you guys talking about that.
So I looked at, he's like, there's no lock. And he's a Giants fan, so I looked at him and was like, dude, Dallas is gonna fucking definitely beat New York. And did they not? Well, Dak Prescott, the quarterback, I don't know who that is.
I know, but-- How did my Chiefs do? So, hold on, this is way more important than your fucking Chiefs, and they lost. How did my wife's Chiefs? They lost, and she doesn't know because she doesn't watch the game because she's not really a fan.
But when Mahone was over cutting the grass, he seemed very upbeat. You know what, when you're worth a half a billion dollars, I don't think you're cutting anybody's grass. Oh, he's friend of the family, though. Yeah.
If you're worth a half a billion dollars and you're a friend of the family, you're sending somebody to cut the grass. Well, I really don't know what he looks like, so maybe it wasn't him. Oh, okay, good. Somebody with a Mahone jersey on, I assume.
Some young Hispanic-looking gentleman, I don't know. Yeah, okay. Well, so Dak Prescott, the starting quarterback for... Oh, somebody named Dak got injured.
Yeah. 'Cause I only know one Dak and it wasn't him I asked. Yeah. So, he went for a running play.
And, oh man, it was so brutal, his ankle, somebody stepped on it and it rolled, and they show him holding his leg up in the air, and he's holding his calf, so you're looking at his calf, his foot just dangles, well it almost looks like his sock, his foot is out of his shoe, because his shoe was the other direction, but no it wasn't, his whole foot was in there. And it was so fucking sad. So your foot normally, let's say it would go like this. So, look, so aesthetically, let's say your foot's here?
Yes. His foot was like... Oh, like sideways. Yeah, it was...
Oh, like upside down. It was so bad, it looked like... It was so bad, it was so bad. And this...
Is he done for good? Oh, well, he's done for the season, without question. He's obviously done for the season. Is that a repairable thing?
I mean... I don't know, I don't, I don't know. Here's the fucked up part. So, well, it's fucked up, depending on what side you want to argue.
So he was tagged franchise, right, he got a franchise tag this year. What does that mean? So what that means is he gets paid the average of the top five quarterbacks for the year, but he's not guaranteed, like, a big deal, like, you know. Oh, he only gets paid if he plays.
Well, he gets paid for this year, right? If he plays. And like, when you're a talent like that, you try and negotiate a contract that's long term, like Mahomes has a 10 year deal, it's half a billion dollars. He gets paid for 10 years, whether he ever plays again.
Well, I mean, a lot of it's guaranteed, some of it might not, you know, it's incentivized, there's some components, there's probably some injury, you know, but you still get paid. Right. Dak doesn't have that. I mean, that was a big fight preseason.
That was a big fight offseason. Like, that was always in the running back of the team got paid. Amari Cooper, the wide receiver, got paid. Like, all these guys got paid.
He's the one guy that didn't get fucking, like, a solid deal. And now he ain't going to get one. Oh, no. He'll never be 100% again.
I mean, if he comes back, he's still going to. It's like Jason Pierre-Paul. You know who Jason Pierre-Paul is? Oh, Peter Paul and Mary?
No. So Jason Pierre-Paul is this great defensive player. Okay. And he was on the New York Giants.
Yes. And one day, the 4th of July, he was playing with fireworks. Oh, dumbass. And he blew off a few fingers.
Oh. He's defensive. He doesn't use fingers. So when that happens.
Yes. When that happens, you've got to kind of start over. Right? So he went to Tampa Bay.
Right? And then he earned his way into getting paid again. Ah. So that's going to have to happen with Dak.
Right. He's going to have to earn his pay again. Right, well, quarterback, is he a quarterback? Yeah, he's a quarterback.
He's a big deal. You gotta have ankles. You gotta have ankles. And he's a running quarterback.
Oh, not no more. Now he's called the in-the-pocket quarterback. Man, when it happened, when it happened, when I saw it, like, I'm not, you know, I'm not a Dallas fan. Is he married?
I was like, God damn, I'm sure. Has she filed for a divorce yet? I don't think so. I mean, he's still got, he's probably still got some money in the bank.
But, you know, big runs over. Yeah, big runs over. So you got to move on to a better player. But, like, dude, when, you know, I'm telling you.
Yeah, of course. I mean, he's been playing for a few years maybe. So he's maybe in his 30s. Oh, he's definitely in his 30s.
I would say probably early 30s. How old is Brady? 42, 43. Yeah, so, I mean, he's – everybody says he should have already retired.
I mean, just because of his age. Not the way he plays. Not the way he plays. No, no, no.
Okay. But he's like one of the older guys. He's the older guy. Oh.
He is the oldest guy. Yeah, he's... So if this guy's in his 30s, he may be had eight years. It's funny because Brady has played against like fathers and sons of people.
Oh. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Oh, nice. That's pretty remarkable.
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, when that happened... " He took the top right off the D. " It's pretty amazing.
Wow. But yeah, I mean, dude, when this happened, when it went down, it was just like, you don't have to be a Dallas fan to look at him like, oh. Well, you still feel better. You know, like, I think that people always make jokes like, oh, you know, especially if you play fantasy football, people are like, oh, ooh, he tore his ACL, like somebody you're going up against, you know, oh, he's got a concussion, I hope he gets a concussion so he's out, so I don't have to play against him or whatever.
You know, but then, like, you see a season-ending injury that just really fucks up a guy. Could be a career-ending injury. Yeah, well, I mean, there have been guys that have gone through worse that have bounced back. Now, like, Alex Smith lost his job.
Right. He broke his fucking femur. Ooh. Yeah.
That's a big deal. That's hard to do. Yeah. Supposed to be stronger than a piece of steel the same size.
Yeah, so, I mean, and that was... Did he just get hit? You know what, it was a pretty nasty injury, you know, from what I remember and what I saw. Oh, God.
He's done. Well, he took the field this Sunday, too. Oh. He started off as the third stringer.
Yeah. I mean, so same scenario, right? Like, you had the starting – you had the job. Right.
And now you're all the way back down to the bottom, and then you've got to climb your fucking way up. Ankle being a joint is a little harder than just a – Yeah, you tie it up. It's just – I don't know. I mean, they took him instantly – You have to be able to, you know, shift on it.
Modern technology these days. I'm not sure. I just give him a bionic angle. Yeah, you know, like.
You know, here's what we're going to do. I mean, just make him like the Blade Runner guy. What? You know, the Blade Runner.
The guy that killed his wife or whatever. What? The Runner. Yeah.
You don't remember this story? Blade Runner? They called him the Blade Runner. He was a track guy and lost both his legs.
Oh, he's got the metal springy things. Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant the movie Blade Runner. No, they called him the Blade Runner.
Oh, just give him one of those? Yeah, but he'd be like the lady in the other movie and he can cut people's heads off. Well, yeah, but no, but this guy, in the middle of the night, he shot his wife through the bathroom door or something. She was in there too long?
I don't know if he was in there or she was in there. It was so bad he shot her through the door. I don't, I don't know how it all played out. I told you, courtesy flush!
I mean, honestly, like, you know, I think that the guy could have been having some kind of episode, like some kind of night terror or something like that. I don't think that he intentionally murdered-- Is that why you have no guns in the bedroom? I have guns in the bedroom. Probably not a good idea.
Yeah, they're all secured. Yeah, but you got a night terror. You gotta, you gotta be able, I mean, you have to be cognizant enough to unlock the shit. I've seen you stand up.
You've seen me stand up and yell, yeah, but that was it. That was it. Didn't startle me. I already knew it was coming.
Yeah. I wasn't going to say this, but I almost got into a fight, Universal. Again? Oh, was it with the old man security guard?
No, man. The younger, oh, younger. Did you just ash? I did.
No, you made me move closer to you, so now the ash is really far away, so now I was put on the floor. Oh, I see your vain attempts at hitting the ashtray over there. Yeah. Most of them are I'm going to have to clean that later.
New guy. So, I had to get... Keanu's very willing to do just about anything. So, I had to get a guest pass for my brother-in-law.
Yes. Because that's like a thing with your annual passes right now, since there's no ballet, there's no... They give you free passes for people to bring with them per ticket. What?
Yeah. " So, what day this weekend do you want to go? I'll have to get back to you on that. So we had to wait in line for guest passes.
Oh, forget it. So I had to wait in line, and there were like, there's like these four or five people, like three guys, maybe four guys, and like four or five girls, and they were fucking annihilated. I don't know what they were on. You were gonna take on ten people?
I don't know what they were on. Oh, well, you had ex-military Brian, but he was Air Force. He's not like a Marine or anything. Oh, wow.
But I mean, it did feel... Did he have a plane? It was reassuring to have him there, you know. So yeah, so they're just fucking totally blitzed, and it was bad.
They were really, like two of them were kind of falling over, like two of the girls, like their eyes are rolling in the back of their head, and like one of the guys... That's how the COVID turns into zombies. One of the guys tried talking to Brittany, like, "Oh, I'm so embarrassed," you know, because we were like right next to him, but six feet away. Right.
" And then I didn't hear what he said, but he was wearing like penguin shorts or whatever. " He says to my wife. And Brittany's just wearing sunglasses on and a mask, so she just didn't respond. Right.
So you say it louder? " Matt, do you like Penguin? Do you wanna pet my Penguin? No, so, you know, so we're already getting agitated, and, um, they move up a little bit in the line, and, uh, the guest pass thing is open.
The person's saying, "Hey, next, next, next," and, well, you know, these fuckin' slapdicks, they're not responding, 'cause they're all, they're not going next. " Oh, oh, hilarious. Yeah. So.
So you clobbered him. So I kind of lost it a little bit there. Did you hit him? No, I didn't.
Push? I didn't. I said, you know, I started yelling, you know, and I said, I don't know what I said. You know exactly what you said.
Everything went black at that point. " Do you have to ask? I was like... Do you look at Brian and go, "Seriously?
" He pulls out a glove, like there's, there's eight of you, of course I want to fight. There's eight of you, yeah, you know, I've got a roid rage going for three days now, I'm just, I'm just a fucking ball of emotions and rage, of course I want to fight, of course, of course, this, this, this will be a no contest, you guys are all completely wasted, I am here, I am fit and sober. And I am in flip-flops, and I will embarrass you in my flip-flops, like flip-flops, wearing my alakas that you got me. Oh, very nice.
And, uh, so then I, you know, so then I walked up to the, the next booth next to them, right? Or the, or the, or the booth that's, you know, six feet apart or whatever, and I looked at them, I go, there's no fucking way you're letting them in this place. Like, are you serious? There's no way.
He just told my wife, Dee's nuts. He wants to fight me. Like, I have no problem fighting him. We're all gonna get laid off, sir, if I don't live this morning.
And, like, the guy who was taking my... I felt bad, like... He didn't know what to do. No, no, they were handling it, but he's like, you know, he could see that I was agitated and that there might be a situation right in front of him.
So they have glass with a little hole? There's glass up top, there's no glass on the bottom, so you can do the transaction stuff, but you could see, like, his hands were shaking a little bit. Oh, he's like, oh, it's about to happen. And he's like, you know, I'm really sorry, he's like...
This is what they trained me for. We've called security, security's coming over, and you know. I hit the button under the thing, sir, at some times. He's just doing this, hitting the button over and over.
And you know, he's like, we've called security, and if they don't have tickets they can't get in anyways because they're not in capacity, and you know, they're at full capacity, and you know, I'm really sorry. I'm like, it's not your fault, but you know, pfft, fuck this guy. I'm gonna go. But you know, you know, and I've, at this point I've already removed everything off of me, like wallets, I mean like I'm just fucking ready.
You're down to your underwear and your karate belt. But there's a logistical point when, if you're about to get in a fight with somebody, it's like, okay, there's more than one of them. So if I get sucker punched and I get knocked out, I don't want to have my wallet on me. I don't want to have my phone on me.
Why not the wallet? I understand the phone. I just don't want them to take it. Oh, you think they'd take your wallet?
If it goes south... I thought you were worried you were going to break it. No, you've got to be prepared. If shit goes south...
I've seen fights where it's a really big guy against... against another big guy, and, you know, all of a sudden there's a standoff. There's a little guy that comes up and takes a while? No, so – well, hold on.
Okay. So I have, in my previous life when I was a bartender in a great place, there was a – I distinctly remember one fight where there was just two really, really big guys. One of them was a security guard. The other guy – and the security guard is always looking for a fight.
The other guy was just this massive, well-prepared individual for I will fight you, right? So the fight ensues in the parking lot of the bar that I worked at, and they're going for like, you know, I don't know, maybe 30 seconds, a minute, and they're fucking punching and hitting and blah, blah, blah. And you could see that both of them had anticipated the other one going down and the other person didn't go. Oh, it didn't work out well.
so they're standing they kind of stood stood back and stand i'm like all right i guess we're gonna go again all of a sudden one of my other buddies the guy who always had my back when i was there and he's probably five foot three five foot four maybe five five you see him like prance over takes his fucking arm and goes boom to the side of this guy's gigantic guy's head and he's down Over. So now the other guy gets on top of him and just starts pummeling him, right? So my point is that you have to kind of be prepared that if shit goes wrong, you don't want to lose your shit, right? So yeah, you start, you know, if you feel like it's about to go down and you have time to prepare, you remove articles of value from yourself and then you get ready to handle business.
I mean, I probably wouldn't have gotten to that... I mean, they really wouldn't have been much of a contest. Right. You know, like, it's not like I was going...
Because of who you are. Because of who I am. No, I mean, from a logical standpoint, if somebody is that hammered... There's a lot of rage in there that's just looking to get out.
Yeah. " As I'm punching this guy, like, you know. Also, it's your mother's face. Yeah.
You didn't love me enough. Stop at number one, huh? Oh, Greg, you don't feel busy today? I mean, I'm just kidding.
Whatever. Sorry. I got jokes. But, you know, yeah, so I wasn't going to mention that.
Because I don't want every conversation that I have about Universal, me being almost getting into a fight with somebody. Yeah, the question earlier, I don't want to go now. But it's been a while since I've had any conflict. That's true.
Well, there was a pandemic and everything was close. That's true. But when was the original conflict with the cigar thing? I'd have to look and see, but it was sometime.
It was a year ago. It was way over a year. Yeah. I don't know.
We've been doing this so long, some of it runs together in a blur, and it's hard to figure out where it was. But it is in the title, so, I mean, I can go back and find it. It's called Life, Buddy. Yeah, and that was when John Crabtree listened, and he would heckle me.
" But I don't think he listens anymore. Shout out to John Crabtree. John Crabtree. Mr.
Crabtree. Listener of 2018. Do we make him a listener of the week? Do you have a Listener of the Week?
No. Do you want to make John Crabtree the Listener of the Week? All right, here we go. John Crabtree.
Listener of the Week, John Crabtree. I'll tag him in it when I put it up on social. Thanks for listening, John. At least you listened two years ago.
I don't hear much from him. He's been kind of quiet, yeah. It's true. Maybe this will reignite his love.
love maybe who knows all right the lakers won the finals i don't know didn't they yeah so lakers won the finals they gave the whole thing to kobe they're like they dedicated it to kobe bryant and then they see and then there's a picture of lebron smoking a cigar and some people like it's oh they were trying to figure it's an underground shade it's not oh what was it it's not even close it's probably a hoya de monterey a guy like that isn't smoking anything smoking a drew estate he Well, it's not, it's not so much as, like, he's not smoking something Drew Estate is, he's probably, there's only two things that are happening, he's either A, smoking a Cuban, because they believe that Cubans are amazing, I mean, Michael Jordan believes that as well, the Partagas is his favorite cigar, or B, and this is the only B, he's smoking a fucking Padron, that's it, that's where it ends. For guys that are in a celebratory mode, they want to spend the money and kind of smoke the cigar. I mean, I don't know what Joe Burrow smoked when he won the college thing, but I'll have to ask him. Do you know him?
Yeah, sure. It's quarterback Cincinnati. Let's call him. Hey, Joe.
Hey, Joe. This is Mike and Mike Two at Cigar Hustler Podcast. Oh, yeah, guys. Big fan.
Yeah, he wasn't. There's no way that it was a shade. No, not in a million years. No, not in a million years.
They just don't smoke stuff like that. No, why wouldn't they? If you have millions of fucking dollars. Right, why are you smoking a $9 shade?
They want to be, they want to smoke something that they think is extremely elite. Exactly. You know, something that they can't get, forbidden fruit. " So, you're out of here.
You're done. You're no longer a citizen. Oh. That's where he's going next.
Revoked. No, I'm just kidding. Exile. He's going to bring back exiling people.
I love LeBron James. I'm glad that he won, you know, and I'm glad that he gave it to Kobe. But, you know, it'd still be funny. That's all I'm saying.
A little humor. I don't know why you're cleaning that over there. You've got a whole fucking mess on this side. Oh, shit.
Look at that. That's why I'm cleaning it over here. It's a mess over there. I'm going to buy you a shop vac.
A dust buster. Just for my section. A little dust buster. I'll pull it out there and show it.
All right. All right. Well, thanks for the story. Now we're almost on an hour.
So this has been episode-- I'm a professional, Mike. I am the king of cigar media. Yes, you are. So yeah, of course I'm going to drag along and just keep everybody entertained for the full hour.
I don't want Pedro to be upset with me. He was here Friday night with the whole crew. He brought his crew. I know.
I know. Thank you, Pedro. Got to keep him happy. Give me a lovely cigar.
He wants a full hour. That's all he gets. That's it. All right, guys.
One day we'll get him into the Patreon. Is he a Patreon? I don't think... Oh yeah, he's not a Patreon.
Do we have a teaser for the Patreon? What are we doing today? Ooh. What are we doing today?
It's a great question. There's the new Chartero Cabano. There is the new Chartero Cabano. That's the only new one we have that we have.
I would say that we could do the War Bear, but it's gonna get five stars. Yeah, it just seems so. It doesn't make sense. It's just an excuse for us to smoke another one on the air.
Yeah. I've smoked a lot of them already. Which is a great idea. Just for the...
I just want you to know, I've smoked a lot of them already. Oh, I'll get you. And they're fucking really, really good. I have the one which I'm letting rest at home.
Let it settle. Let it settle. I would just smoke it. We have more.
Yeah. We haven't even tried to sell any of them yet. Don't worry. It kind of feels good to just hang on to them.
It does. Oh, for you to hang on to them. They're here. Just to toy with everyone.
They're here. Well, I want to make sure that they're right. I want to make sure that the experience is right. You know what?
I'll bring mine in tomorrow and I'll smoke it here at the shop tomorrow. It would be easy just to, you know, release. Oh, just to turn the switch and just let them go. Boom.
Right. But, you know, I want to make sure that they have enough time to rest. Give them the time that they deserve. No one will complain.
But I will know. Yes. You will know. And that's what's important to me.
All right. We're running out of time now. Okay. Then we should go.
We're gonna go. Shall we go? We should go. Let's review Charter Oak.
Charter Oak Cabano. Sounds like... We have our favorite sizes. The Toro.
The Corona. The Corona. -I thought Corona was our favorite size. -Corona is our favorite size.
-Oh, there we go. Favorite size of review. -Toro. -I'm mostly a Robusto man.
-Corona. -It's because I'm very busy. I don't have time for a Toro. -If it was a little bit longer, we could call it a Torona.
-Oh, don't they call it a Corona? -They call it a short Churchill, apparently. -Oh, that's right. -Double Corona.
-Just ask Jack Taranio after he gets his shit kicked out of him by Hector. Which he's confirmed. We're gonna hear about that probably. I don't think so.
I don't think he listens anymore either. No, he's got his own podcast. Oh, you should have talked about that. That was really funny.
You gotta watch Jack Taranio and Hector talk about it. The Heckel and Jekyll Show? Yeah. Even if you don't watch the whole thing, you just have to watch the first fucking two minutes.
I love the beginning of the show. It's better than Coop's beginning. Oh, my God. Just like the complete...
Are we live? I don't know. Are we live? I don't know.
What about you hitting live? Are we on Facebook? Oh, it's like a monkey fucking a football. I'm on MySpace.
It's amazing. It says I'm live on MySpace. What's going on? It's just so amazing.
Are you on on mine? I'm on on yours. And Hector's like, yeah, yeah, no, it says live. We need a guy.
I think we need a guy that hits a button. I don't know. I don't know if we know. Are we on?
Are we on? Are we on? Hello? Hello?
Is this on? Hello? Go to Jack Taranio's page and just watch him try. Just watch the beginning of the show.
Watch him try to get it set up. Gets it fun. It is, it is. Alright, camera's going off.
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How are you guys doing? The Hojo Deeb. Hojo! It's the Hojo!
You didn't even let him fuck it up all the way. I'm gonna get past Hojo! I don't even have to try to hit the record. We're gonna cover a lot of ground here, Mike.
All right. Try to keep up. That's a sign of a good podcast. You'd be like four cigars when I walked in a door.
All right, end this. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike squared.
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