167 Mike 2 wins the lottery! Mikey foretold the future!
Episode Summary
Episode 167 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast is a news-heavy roundtable between the two Mikes, opening with a Powstanie hat giveaway (subscribe, like and comment on the episode's YouTube video to enter) and a thank-you to listener Stephen Wells for the Warped Wai Sze 5th Anniversary cigars the guys plan to review on the Patreon secret show — including a debate over a reported 71-point Half Wheel score for the blend.
The main news block digs into United Cigars halting its first Stadium Series release, the Asylum Green Monster made with CLE Cigars, after another brand owner raised a trademark concern about part of the name. The hosts speculate (explicitly as speculation) that Tatuaje's long-running Monster Series is the likely source of the conflict, compare it to the Boris/Boris Karloff trademark history, and pitch a co-branded solution that would generate press for both companies. From there they cover the cancellation of InterTabac 2021 in Dortmund, Germany (rescheduled for September 15–17, 2022) and why manufacturers short on inventory may not miss the world's largest tobacco trade show, plus the status of PCA, TAA and TPE as in-person events.
Other industry segments include the PCA's new Product Hub selling platform launching April 1 with an Aganorsa Leaf Lunatic PCA Exclusive, a Plasencia PCA Torpedo and a Rocky Patel 20th Anniversary discount; Illusione's first-ever TAA exclusive, a Nicaraguan puro Toro from Dion Giolito priced around $15; and the full list of 13 companies making TAA 2021 exclusives — with the hosts noting the absence of Padrón and Tatuaje and questioning how a closed retailer group solves industry-wide problems. They also cover the North Dakota Senate defeating HB 1152, the cigar bar and lounge bill, by a single vote, 24–23.
Between stories the Mikes remember industry friend Tim Morris, who recently passed away, share an update on Mike's friend Jason recovering from a serious motorcycle accident, and run the usual Florida news, Traeger brisket talk, Disney+ Falcon and the Winter Soldier chatter and Listener of the Week, Justin Sousi.
In This Episode
- 01Powstanie Hat Giveaway & Patreon Review PlansThe hosts announce a YouTube subscribe-like-comment giveaway for Powstanie hats and tee up a Patreon review of the Warped Wai Sze 5th Anniversary.
- 02Remembering Tim MorrisA tribute to cigar friend and consumer Tim Morris, who passed away, and condolences to his family.
- 03United Cigars Halts the Asylum Green MonsterUnited Cigars pulls its first Stadium Series release with CLE after a trademark objection to part of the name, with the hosts speculating about Tatuaje's Monster Series.
- 04InterTabac 2021 CanceledThe world's largest tobacco trade show in Dortmund is called off again, pushing to September 2022, and the guys debate whether brands even want a show right now.
- 05PCA Launches Product HubThe Premium Cigar Association's new member-only selling platform debuts April 1 with Aganorsa Leaf, Plasencia and Rocky Patel offerings that kick a cut back to the PCA.
- 06Illusione's First TAA Exclusive & the 2021 TAA ListDion Giolito releases a Nicaraguan puro Toro TAA exclusive, and the hosts run down all 13 participating companies while noting who's missing.
- 07North Dakota Cigar Lounge Bill Defeated 24-23HB 1152, which would have legalized cigar bars and lounges in North Dakota, dies by one vote in the Senate.
- 08Florida News & Listener of the WeekA Powerball winner in Lutz, a shark bite at Juno Beach, and Justin Sousi is named Listener of the Week.
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Transcript
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Whoo! There it goes. What do we got on the Patreon today? What are we reviewing?
We have not discussed it. We have some options today. Oh. We have either the wait and say five year anniversary.
Yeah, that's what we gotta do. Or what else is it? Some kind of firecracker thing in there that the lovely new Steve gets. Yes, I feel like we need to do, I know that we were gonna do the other one, but I really wanna do that five year.
You wanna do the five year? Wait and say? Nick Rogerio, my boy Nick Rogerio told me that he got a shit review. So I'm really, now I'm really interested in trying it, I'm like, oh, because I highly doubt, I'm just kind of curious if maybe, you know, I don't know, maybe Nick banged somebody's wife or something to get a bad review of that level.
Oh, Nick Malillo? Yeah, allegedly. Allegedly, allegedly. That magnitude, you got to do something.
It was like a 71 is what he told me. I don't know, I got to, like, I don't fact check, we don't fact check. No, no, this is the second round of them too, right? Yeah.
So they didn't change anything for the first time. Yeah, yeah, and he doesn't make bad cigars, so I'm really curious… What happened? Yeah, maybe the guy stubbed his toe beforehand? I don't know.
Maybe he burned his nose? Maybe he's… A little short, maybe he burned his nose lightened it or something? It was just an off day. Maybe he stubbed his toe.
Do we know who the 71 was from? He said it was Half Wheel, but I couldn't find the link. I couldn't find the link. If it was Charlie Minato and I got a 71, that means it's at least a 99.
Minimum. I'm going to ask my boy, Nick, where is the link? I feel the camera's awful. It doesn't look centered.
Yeah? It's like over here. I'd like to mix it up a little bit. Would you like to explain the new accessories that are on the table?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do, I do. Hold on, let me text you. Okay, while you're doing that, I will update one of our intro stories from last week. Wait, before you even go there, Stephen Wells hooked us up with those five years, so it's really important that we acknowledge Stephen.
Oh, well. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Stephen. Thank you.
Because we've gotten two boxes in, and they sold instantly. We were holding one for Stephen. Yes. For 100 years.
He asked us for one. He committed to one. In, like, 2019. And it's ridiculous like that.
Right. And it finally came in. So we finally sent him, and he said, hey, you know, keep two. And I was like, no, man, I don't want to keep two.
And then when you were like, oh, okay. I was like, really? We can't keep two? All right, fuck it.
We'll take two. All right. Okay, we'll take two. Yeah.
So. We need the dust. Chase Elgin Chimador, it's not as bright and shiny as normally they make it super shiny super shiny um so yes thank you mr wells yes uh we do appreciate you we made a replacement in his uh his order when he gets it yes we have some great listeners we really do we're very fortunate very fortunate you know we try and uh you know dumb it down to like the good guys and like everybody else is going right we don't want to really deal with you you know anybody who listens will do with anybody who listens oh you will all right i have a level of uh the This evening, or, well, let's see, this place tomorrow, today's Monday, we tape on Monday's, this place tomorrow, we'll be on the shirtless mic show, Tuesday night at 7:30? I don't know.
It should be interesting. Yeah, and I have these hats here. Yes, the hats. I have these Powstanie hats.
We have had them before in the past. It's been over a year since we've gotten them back in. Obviously, pandemic added to that. But they're here.
They have arrived. And what we're going to do, what we're going to do, Michael, is we're going to give one of the He's gone away on the podcast. And here's all you gotta do. Wait, live?
How do we do this? We're gonna announce the winner next week. Oh. Alright, so here's what they gotta do.
We're at episode 167? Yes. So if you go and watch episode 167 on YouTube, subscribe, like, and comment, you're gonna be answered to win. What if they're already a subscriber?
All they have to do is comment then. Oh. If you comment, you're gonna be answered to win. Oh.
So I want you to subscribe, I want you to like it, I want you to comment it. Oh, there you go. And boom. Yeah, you can pick the color and the size.
They have to comment anything special? No. I don't care what they say. They should have to comment something.
No, no, no. Don't over... No, no. No, no.
I just want... Listen to me. Listen to me, Michael. Stop it.
You're going to confuse the people. I want it to be simple as possible. The fact of the matter is that we have 75,000 people listening to this podcast and only 200 of them are subscribed on the YouTube. So...
225, it's uploaded. So you know, I really want to encourage people to see your beautiful face on YouTube, and we really need to kind of get that going, we haven't figured that out yet, just don't worry though, we will figure it out, I promise you, and this is how we're going to start, by you going on there, saying a nice lovely comment, liking and subscribing to us. So if they've listened to it, they still have to go view it? Yes.
Gotcha. Yes, I want multiple contact from Cigar Hustlers podcast on your phone all the time. I want you to see the face, you can see the palm beans. Oh, you've got other people, not me.
Yeah, so many things. So many things. We have these hats. One could be yours.
Winners? Possibly you. Investors? We'll contact you to get your correct size.
Oats and hoes. Is this the two colors they pick from? The red or the white? No, they can cover all sizes, Michael.
Ah, all colors, you mean. Yeah, all colors. I'm sorry, I'm a little bloated from my cereal. Cereal?
A little bit. Sugar. A little jazzed on sugar? It was fantastic.
It was absolutely amazing. So is it like the large family box or? No, this is a standard large, Mike. The standard box.
You got to understand your limitations. I mean, it's tough. So at the end of my workout right now, I'm doing this little regime for the next nine weeks where I eat an entire box of cereal as well as consume 120 grams of protein. And it's pretty fascinating.
I really, you know, it's, uh, I love it. I love it. Pooping rainbow colors? No, no, no.
You know, if you were, If you were mixing it with milk or something, yeah, it would probably be really bad for the intestines. Right. The fact of the matter is it gets consumed pretty well. Okay.
It just sits a little in my belly, in my belly. So, yeah. I don't know until this comes out that it's killing you or something. Yeah.
It's only nine weeks. We'll be fine. Oh. I got a new book.
Is that about cereal? Are you ready to talk about stuff or what? What do you want to do? Yeah, go ahead.
I just had an update from last week. Go ahead. Hit me. All right, last week you told a nice little story about how you make the bed and you get graded and everything.
Well, I had a discussion with your wife today. Uh oh, yeah, apparently I was wrong. She likes to update me on things that you say that are inaccurate and incorrect. I told you I don't fact check, even in my own life.
According to Miss Brittany, she knew she made the bed, Michael, but she was just letting you know that even she is not perfect all the time. Yes, she shared that with me on Friday. I was like, oh, you knew that. Yes, the sheet was showing on one side of the bed, but the bed spread was not even, so she knocked herself off half a point.
Uh huh. Hey, you know. At least she's being a good critic. She knows she's not perfect.
Yes. I don't know who's calling me. I'm not taking phone calls now. This is ridiculous.
This is not happening. We're podcasting. Yes. So, yeah.
So, that was the update from last week. Ah, okay. All right. Well, I'm excited about this book I got.
I was actually... Yeah, what book did you get? I saw you had mail in the slot over there. Yeah, I was thinking about giving it to the Manny.
I don't know why. I just, I saw it and I was like... Prison... Oh, you ordered the prison ramen book.
Prison ramen. Prison ramen. Prison ramen. So this is...
Recipes from prison? Recipes and stories from behind bars. Well, you can do another cooking show. Well, you know what?
That is a pasta. So maybe we have Matt Hunt on with the Fratello. Yeah. Absolutely.
I don't know how... Like, I don't... I saw it somewhere. I was, like, scanning through the interwebs.
Yeah. And I was like... I told you on the... Because you came in talking about it one day, and they were also talking about it on the radio station.
So, somehow, ramen must have been in the news for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. So, when I saw it on my news feed, I, you know, like, I like to buy everything used.
I don't know. Well, a book. I mean, you still can't read it? No, what's kind of fascinating to me is as you burn through the pages, sometimes you find something.
Oh, yeah, little notes and stuff? Yeah, that's always been cool to me. Like, I found a bus ticket one time. Oh, probably it was a bookmark.
Yeah, exactly. Right. So I'm like, you know, somebody was reading this. So where do you, do you buy your books on Amazon used?
eBay. Oh, eBay. Everything on eBay is used. Yeah.
So, well, not everything, but yeah. Yes. So yeah, Prison Ramen. I'm very excited about that.
I'm excited about that. So is that your next thing? Now you eat ramen after everything? No, no, no.
This has nothing. This has nothing to do. I will not incorporate this into my nutrition. You never know.
You might say that it works. It's solely for entertainment purposes. So it's just recipes? Recipes and stories from behind the bars.
Behind bars. I don't know. It's got, like, for whatever reason, it's fascinating to me. I'm like, as long as you like it, it doesn't matter.
Right. I'm also waiting on what would Skeletor do. It's pretty funny. What would Skeletor do?
Yeah. before we get into like yes go ahead I just want to get a little deep here a little dark for one quick second there was a recent passing of a guy oh did he no no this is another guy yeah so I'm taking on the head as a recent but Tim Morris was a super super guy like down to earth you know one of the best in the cigar industry he was just a consumer Big into cats, always going to Deadwood, you know, the motorcycle thing. Just very, very wise. You always wanted to be around this guy.
Biggest heart of gold on the planet. Apparently he passed away in his sleep the other day and just wanted to, you know, wish him the best. I don't know. Wish his family the best.
Wishes family the best. Wishes family the best. Yeah, hearts go out to his family and condolences to everybody. He's going to be missed, man.
He was a really, really, really good guy. He's a really good guy, so... I was working on a TAPS thing here, but I don't think I ever did. You don't have TAPS?
Nope. I think it was very long, that's what it was. Yeah. So, but yeah, you know, they say the good die young, and Timmy definitely fucking qualified.
Did it say, I mean, just natural causes, COVID related? I think that he had, no, I think he had a lot of health issues, you know. Younger guy? Probably your age.
Oh, old guy. Yeah, maybe. I mean, you're not too old. No, no, no, it is a little depressing when the guys might hear you're starting to kick off a little bit.
They're starting to go, you know, that's always kind of the sad part about the cigar industry is, like, you get to know a lot of people that are older, you know, and when they start dying, it sucks, so, but anyways, you know, Timmy, you're a good egg and you're going to be missed, you know, going to be missed, so. Apparently, that light 'em up thing that you said one week that we thought we would grab, that's also said by Garofalo on his show, so we're not using that anymore. Oh, what? Light 'em up!
Light 'em up! I guess that's where I heard it, I guess. I don't know. Oh.
So, one of the listeners commented on the YouTube. Yeah, so if one of the listeners could tell me of a good quarterback coach in Central Florida, that'd be great, because I think - I think - Oh, you need one for Jax, that's right. I think - Did we talk about it on the show or off the show? No, yeah, it was - Everything's a blur.
I don't - It's all just one big show. Basically. So, you know, he's at, like, he's at a point now in the game where he gets discouraged that he doesn't get the ball a lot. It's like, so, I want to be a quarterback.
I'm like, okay. But like... Ah, because then you always get the ball. You get the ball.
I know that I'm not really capable of teaching him quarterback stuff. Right. I don't really qualify. So, I gotta figure out what...
There's nobody at RDB or something? I don't know, man. There might be. I gotta, I gotta ask, start asking around for it.
Uh, JT out there, maybe. Yeah, maybe he's a defensive player. Yeah, maybe he's got to connect, maybe he knows somebody. Yeah, maybe.
I didn't mean for him to teach him, but maybe he knew somebody. Yeah, but you know, I gotta find something, so, working on that. You tried Google? Little guy wants to do tennis.
I don't know where the fuck that came from. Maybe he likes little shorts. Ah! Bam!
Ah! Bam! There you go, you can yell. Yeah, you fit right in, fit right in with me at the gym.
Right in, right in. So, uh, I hope to God that you go back to the green monster story. Yes, I have that for the... Okay.
Yes, that's in the news. Okay. We have several updates for a couple of stories that we've already reported on. Okay, this is gonna be a good episode.
I like how we go back and touch on the stories. Yes. When things change. We gotta circle back a little bit.
Circle back when things change, so... Yes, actually, there's two. There's the second one. I couldn't remember what the second one was.
So, yes. Indeed. Yes, so we had an event here at the shop this past Friday. Room 101 went very well.
Yes, we did. Saturday, we made a trip to the liquor store that I normally go to. Oh, where the guy judges you? Yeah, where the guy judges me.
But as soon as we pull up, an old man had come out and tripped over the sidewalk and fell. Tore his arm up from here to here. Had a big lump on the back of his head. He was bleeding.
So we're having to help him up. We got the chair from the liquor store. And then they had to call the paramedics. But the fixes that you met, Jennifer and Charles, were visiting.
Charles helped the man up, and he got the bloody arm, so he got blood all over his nice new white shirt, but he sent a picture yesterday, he got the blood out. Really? Yeah, I mean, it's amazing. He's some type of wizard with laundry, apparently.
They must have kids. They have three children, yes, but they're older and do not live with them anymore. So they've had years of experience. Years of experience.
Had to get the blood out. Yes. But I mean, it was everywhere. A lot of blood.
Poor man. They're bloody. Old people bleed a lot. They do.
The blood thinners and shit? Well, he had had the thin skin, you could tell because, I mean, it folded the skin back on his arm where he scraped on the ground. He doesn't have a guy you can fucking send to the liquor store? Come on.
Him and his wife were there in their old Cadillac. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's very sad.
It was very sad. How'd he fall? He tripped, I mean, because you walk out and then there's a little drop down into the parking lot. I guess he missed the drop and ba-dum-bum, crashed and a big tree fall.
Yeah. They were wrapping him in bandages and stuff when we left. All right, so you tried to kill an old man today or this week? We put him in a chair.
Yeah. In the shade. We gave him some water. Yeah.
Oh. Very nice. Very nice. Left him there to die.
Okay, cool. The paramedics had him. What do you want me to do at that point? Start resuscitating.
Sorry. He could breathe. He was sitting up. CPR.
Ah! I'm losing him. That'd be awesome. Get the car battery.
Get the jumper cable. I need to fucking intubate. Just start shoving a tube down his throat. Oh, is he's choking?
Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna save you, sir. Be perfect. That would have been nice.
Yeah. All right. Anything else? Did you do anything this weekend or nothing?
No, man, it was a pretty easy weekend. I got a pool set back up again. Oh, do you? So we threw out the last pool.
Yeah, they don't make it to the next year. Yeah, no, they don't survive. They don't survive. My wife is shopping for a new one.
There's a new survival. So we got, it's similar to yours as far as round. Oh, did you get the round with the inflatable ring? No, no, no.
Yeah, that don't work for the kids. It's metal frame. Yeah. Can I explain to you, when they go to climb out, and then all the water comes out.
Yeah, no, my kids would love that, but no, I would not. Oh, we got the pull for the dog. The dog got his pull. Dempsey got his new pull for the season, so he's happy.
I smoked the brisket on the Traeger. Oh. Getting a little better at that. Good for you.
There's a learning curve on that damn Traeger. Uh-oh. It's not easy. I thought you just went boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
But, yes, but you have to understand, I don't know, man, like, the old school method was cool. And to some degree, right? Like, you throw the coals in, you keep the wood going, like the whole thing. It was a process.
It was a pain in the ass. But, like, you really got to dial in as far as the temp and really kind of learn exactly the approach with the Traeger. Oh. It's not that easy.
I'm sorry. Sorry. These are sacrifices I make for the pain. Sorry for your bougie troubles you're having.
My bougie grill smoker is really hard to use. But, hey, fuck you. Dick. Whatever.
Mr. Cereal. Mmm. Look, you know, you don't work out, so you don't understand.
You don't get it, you don't. Oh my God, I hurt my hand doing something. I mean, can't even close my hand for three days. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean, that's the, uh, everybody keeps seeing the show. So, yeah, so I do like the Facebook post to really kind of trigger people, which I love. Right. Yeah, and you, Nick Peretti, were really going at it.
You got mad at him because he had contradictory information. I don't, first of all, I'm not getting mad at anybody. Oh, you're very angry. I was not angry at all.
No, no, don't do that to me. Yeah, sure, throw your six-year information. He's like, "Oh, thanks for the eight-year-old research. " That was my comment.
I didn't read all the exchanges. It was a dozen, I think. It was too much. I just know.
I'm looking at them. You learn. You read a lot of books. You do a lot of research.
You try some things out. You see how it progresses. I wish you'd keep a list of all the things that you'd try. I'm not afraid to try.
Oh, that's obvious. I'm more of a... Four years we've been doing this show, there's been several... Jump off the cliff and build the plan on the way down, Mike.
Several things. You know, I use your analogy with my wife a couple of weeks ago. I forget what she was talking about. I go, well, Michael always says, you know, you jump off the cliff and build the plane on the way down.
Fucking A. That's the way to do it. There was something we were doing. She's like, you don't know what you're doing.
Well, we'll figure it out as we go. We're just, we're going for it. You know, we're going for it. It is what it is, man.
You can't be afraid. It was an Apple update recently. Did you do it to your... Nah, man, I kicked that can forever.
Oh, I did it and everything's a little, a little different on the screen. Everything's a little sharper, a little crisper. It's a little crisper, there's new buttons and things, so if something happens, I'm very sorry. Oh, good.
Thanks for the heads up. Put that out there right away. This is the first time I'm using the update, and I'm like, this looks different. That's fantastic.
There's a noise gate button. I don't know. We're trying that today. All right.
Well, what else you got? You want to get into the news now? Uh, we're 20 minutes. You want to get into the news?
Hit me with the first thing. Let's go. I'm really excited about Green Monster. I want to talk about it.
Dun-dun-dun, Cigar Houser Podcast News. News. Update to a story we did last week, United Cigars is disappointed to announce that its first Stadium Series release has been halted. Halt.
Stop that. The Asylum Green Monster, a collaboration with CLE Cigars and United Cigars, was due to ship to United Retail Partners this time for an open day baseball schedule for April 1st. The limited release was processed in two Vitolas, blah, blah, blah. The box is shaped, a home plate with both sides, fashion, iconic left field, Walt Fenway Park, the Green Monster, the project meant more than cigars, says Oliver, Director of Operating, we couldn't pronounce his name last week either, Director of Operating United Cigars, Baseball is America, let's get to the point where, let's see, United Cigars is regretfully pulling the stadium series Green Monster from the market for now until the decision is decided upon.
Decision was made after another cigar brand owner reached out to CLE directly and said that a portion of the name would need to be concealed. At this point, not an option for United Cigars. Wanted to accommodate. The decision was made to pull the series to avoid further distress to their friends at CLE.
This will not stop the series, United Stadium Series. However, United Cigars has new plans for the end release and has begun the early steps for the next one that should be announced this fall. All right. So the asylum where it apparently was.
So the asylum wasn't the problem because that's CLE. Okay, then what was the problem? You want me to break it down for you? No, no, no, because that's the entire story that just wasn't happening.
It's just, it wasn't happening. All right, so let me hypothetically, this is all speculatory. Ah, gotcha, okay. All right, that's my disclaimer.
Great. But I'm gonna bet. So it's, okay, well, wait. I thought it was the asylum part because it's CLE.
Right, but we realized that they're working with CLE, so the asylum's cool. Right, so did they not get permission from the stadium people? No, no, no. Okay, so what's the problem?
There's the same part of the name. All right, so this is, again, I cannot confirm or deny, and this is just all speculatory. Yes, I don't want to get in trouble, but I always get in trouble anyway, so fuck it. What are they going to do?
Fuck with our pots and pans. What are they going to do? Fuck with our pots and pans. And you know what?
I have a resolution for it. It's actually very simple, but have you ever heard of the Monster series? The truck thing? No, no.
The cigars that come out every year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tatuaje? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so Tatuaje has Monster. This is Monster. M-O-N-S-T-A-H. Yeah, it's close enough.
It's close enough. It's that one. So I haven't, like no one has flat out told me, hey, it's Tatuaje. Right.
But I know that Tatuaje does a really good job of protecting that. Right. And I would assume that it's Tatuaje. So did they have permission from, whatever, 20th Century Fox, whatever, to do Frankenstein and Vampire and Dracula?
No. And all that crap? It's a different realm, I guess. I guess you can get away with that if it's not, like...
Oh, because it's not a movie. Well, right. Exactly. Yeah, so it's, you know...
Yeah, I guess you're right. And I think there's gotta be some kind of, like, there's something about, like, you know how Band-Aid was actually a company name. Right, yeah, yeah. And eventually it becomes, it became...
Right. You couldn't protect that trademark. Right. Because everybody knows it as Band-Aid.
Even though it's M-O-N-S-T-A-H. Instead of wound cover. Right. Yeah.
I'll take a wound cover. So, yeah. Pop-Tart is a thing, but it's also a brand, but everybody calls them Pop-Tarts. Right.
Exactly. It's crazy. It's crazy stuff. Toaster pastry.
So, I think that Monsta, and like, I understand the protection to protect your trademarks. Oh, sure, sure, sure. That makes sense, you know. But you can work out the details for like a, hey, you know, we're going to grant you permission to use this for this in this scenario.
Right. Because I'm pretty sure that, again, I don't fact check. Well, it's only the one stadium. They'll never use that name again.
Right. And it's not affiliated with Monsters. Right. You know what I mean?
Right. And they even added the Bostonian AH. Right. The different spelling.
So, like, we're not even close. We're not. He's not. I don't think that there's any.
He's not trying to. And I don't know the guy United at all, and I mean, I met Pete Johnson, but that's it. I mean, I don't really know either one of these guys. So, but like, I met him, but that was it.
He doesn't know you. No. " Robyn Rallis had that problem with that guy who was doing only golf cigars for a while. Well, on the other, so, again, this is entirely speculation.
Entire speculation. You have no idea what we're doing. I have no idea what I'm doing. Right.
I heard a rumor that Boris was actually trademarked by another person that had cigars. Yes. Oh, the name Boris. Yeah.
And Boris was used by Tatuaje. Right, Boris Karloff. Right. Right.
Somewhere along the line, there was some kind of an agreement to, hey, we're going to let you use this for this. So you think they're already familiar with how it works? I think that it's very possible to just kind of work this out and, you know, hey, it's a great little media thing, great little media poll. I mean, if I'm Tatuaje, I'm the bigger company, like I'm a little more popular than United.
United's coming along, you know, at a good pace. But I say, hey, here's what we're going to do. We're going to let you use our trademark and you're going to fucking cut us in. Done.
Done. And then you need another. There you go. We don't need any commission for the idea.
commission for the idea. Nothing. You're good. I got you covered.
He's got it. You're going to do another media release. So now another news fucking thing hits. Now they're going to do it.
Get him back in the cycle. Tatoahe and Green Monster have paired up to yada yada or whatever the case may be. Yada yada. Or Tatoahe grants Green Monster to continue or something like that and boom.
Boom. So now you're riding the, you know, it's just amazing. It's just amazing. It's a beautiful thing.
Bam. You got to go to work. Bam. You got to go to work.
Bam. You got to go to work. I told you to check the volume on that shit motherfucker. You fucked up.
But yeah, that's how you do this thing, you know? You can fucking maximize revenue. Oh, look at you. Just solving problems here in the industry.
Follow me for more life instructions. Boxes of fucking cereal after your workout. Working out trademarks. I'll be here all day.
All right. Or at least till five. I think we can squeeze in one more star here. Yeah, let's do that.
But I'm really excited. I'm glad that you started with that one because that was a good one for me. Yes. Enter to back 2021.
Canceled. Enter to back 2021. The event will not take place through the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. The event, the world's largest tobacco trade show, scheduled to take place September 16th through 18th in Dortmund, Germany.
A lot of words I can't pronounce. The company that owns both the trade show and the event space takes place. Announced today, or last week actually, is canceling the event after talking with exhibitors and sponsors. Working closely with the industry associations and partner associations, the conceptual sponsors, The Advisory Board and the Exhibitors of the Twin Fairs have become clear that the vast majority is against holding the event this September, as previously announced.
Right. Said somebody's name I can't pronounce. Managing Director of... Said someone.
Well, Sabine Lohs. Lohs? Lohs? Managing Director of a very large and difficult German company.
Say it, say it. Please say it. Westfahelen unter Hunsiguppe. That was perfect.
It had to be. Do you know a little German? Yes, I do. The largest tobacco trade show in the world, spinning the full tobacco product spectrum that includes cigarettes, e-cigarettes, vaping products, machine-made, premium cigars, pipes, Shisa, smokeless, and other tobacco-related products.
There's also a connected inter-supply show that focuses on the manufacturing equipment needed to the tobacco product. Last year, the event was canceled, but then West Forhalen Umbagoopy announced that the alternative event called It Shub, Which was supposed to be a hybrid in-person virtual event. Ultimately, the event was also canceled as infections began to increase in the event near the time. See, they did not announce an alternative event, but just confirmed the dates for next year's trade show, so in 2022, it's going to happen September 15th through 17th.
As of today, the Cigar Trade Show, the PCA Convention and Trade Show, TAA Meeting and Convention, the TPE 2021, are all planning for in-person events, though two of them already pushed back their events due to the pandemic. So, I mean if I'm a brand - obviously people - Alright, we're gonna have to take a break or we're gonna - We'll be right back - We're gonna discuss this - Michael will pick this up - this news issue when we come back - Right, when we come back. Alright, we'll be right back. Hey, it's Mike too.
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I'm sorry, we're back. This is episode 167 of the Cigar Hustler Podcast. This episode brought to you by... who cares?
Oh, wow. Nobody pays for that middle ad space? That's available. That's available.
It's available for anybody who's not in cigar industry. Anybody who's not in cigar industry would like to, or accessories, or maybe enter the back end would like to take a sponsorship. So, hold on. The 2022 show.
Okay, alright. Quit driving, you're embarrassing yourself. So, let's break this down real quick. If you think about it, let's say that, obviously, in the United States, you've experienced a big boom since COVID in cigar consumption.
Yes. We can probably assume that that's going to be the same thing in the European market, right? Yes. More people are smoking.
If you're a brand owned manufacturer, and for one, you're probably running out of product at this point, why the fuck would you want to spend a lot of money on the show? Right. As well as, you know, the whole COVID thing, like, you know, if you haven't- Show cigars you don't have. Right.
Check all this stuff out. It'll be available September 2022 when the next Internet of Action. Anyways, you know what I'm saying? So like, I understand why you wouldn't want to go.
I mean, obviously, for your own I don't know about safety reasons of Corona, but let's say that you don't care anymore, because I feel like a lot of people don't, I just feel like at some point, something's got to give, we can't live in our fucking houses forever, right? We haven't been living in our houses since- Down in Florida. Since March of last year. It's too hot here.
Yeah. No COVID. We went to a beer festival this weekend, packed wall to wall people. There's so many people, we left, we're like, this is way too many people.
This doesn't make me comfortable, I'm going home. Well, no, but I mean, it was $50 to go around sample a beer, we're not big beer people anyway. You know, we're like, a lot of people. Well, I think as of right now, like New York and New Jersey are spiking in cases they're having over.
We spiked too, Florida did after spring break. We're at like 5,000 cases a day. I saw several articles today that said the spiking after the, after last week. Okay.
I didn't pull them for the show because I already had Florida stories and that's a little depressing. I love the Florida stories, but hey, you know what I mean? Like two good ones. But like a lot of things, you know, there's a lot of positive things going on, is all I'm saying.
And we can't continue. Yeah, you live your life at your own risk. It is what it is. Well, if your theory is entered to back, you know, they said, well, we don't need to do it anyway.
Right. What about the American shows that are still going on that we already mentioned? I think you might be seeing some problems here. Oh.
Well, PCA is working on some, some stuff, but it looks, I think the next story, I just saw PCA launches, and I'm like, oh, never mind, I'll shut up. That's the next story, shut up. The TAA, I don't, I don't know if that's been going on, but a lot of people are announcing their TAA launches, though. Yeah, I mean, TAA is like this good old boy, fucking, you know, that's the big, big retailer.
Okay, I was gonna ask you, wait, let me see if I have a TAA story. TA story. Yeah, okay, we have TA story. We'll get into that later.
Okay. So many things. Oh, you have questions. I love questions.
So many things going on. This is a great podcast. This is a great episode. I'm excited about this.
Get the trophy back out for it. What do you know how the trophy... I wanted things to be uniform and clean. You know what I mean?
I put the trophy away. PCA launches selling platform. Last year, the Premium Cigar Association said it was interested in partnering with manufacturers to create exclusive cigars that would be offered to its retail members through the organization. Yep.
The one guy. Through the one guy. The one guy. Scott.
Next week, the platform is set to go live. Scott's very, very busy. It's very busy. Copy, paste, copy, paste.
A lot of links. He's going to start boxing up cigars now, too? Some of it. No, he's just selling through the links, the manufacturing.
Well, he's got to process the orders. Click, click. I don't think that he processes the orders. He's very busy.
I think the manufacturer does. Well, he sends the orders to the manufacturer. He's just one guy, man. He's going to say, hey, listen, I really don't want to handle this.
Well, a lot of stuff's happening on April 1st. I have the feeling I'm going to go, got him. Gotcha, April Fool's. Not really, no.
Maybe there's gonna be new cigars on April 1. Thank you for the money, though. April 1st, a trade organization will launch a PCA Product Hub, an online platform that will offer both exclusive cigars and discounts for its members. The difference between PCA Product Hub and the other methods of sale is that the manufacturers who place their products at PCA Product Hub will agree to give a certain amount of the sales back to the PCA.
Get a piece. All right. I need my taste. I need a little piece.
You know, that's not a bad idea. That's close to what I was saying. Yes, the PCA Product Hub is set to launch with two exclusive products and one line with special pricing, an Agronorsa Leaf Lunatic PCA Exclusive, a Platinum Nova PCA Executive Torpedo, and a Rocky Patel 20th Anniversary Special Discount. Details about the two exclusive cigars are expected to be announced on March 31st via live show on the PCA's Facebook page.
In order to access PCA Product Hub, retailers need to have an active membership and good standing with the PCA. The organization set his plans on adding new products to the PCA product tub every month. Yeah, they need to add more because that's definitely not enough. No, no, just the three.
And Rocky Patel is just a special price. Not a special cigar. Yeah. Do you think he'd be spearheading that?
Like, he'd have something... Maybe it's a really cheap price. Who knows? One dollar.
One dollar. You get the box for a dollar. That's a legend, but that's not a legend. Don't say you heard it here, please.
No. He told me that I got a daughter. I thought I'm black today. It looked like a funeral going on in here.
I always wear black. Yeah, but I tried it. I like that you busted out the polo, because you haven't busted it out in a while. I try to break it up.
I've been doing polos on Mondays for you. Blue and black. And then I said, you know what, today I'm going to go v-neck. I almost wore a red shirt today.
I was like, oh, I can't. I'll disappear in the background. It's true. You'd just be a floating head.
I'd be a floating head and a big white head. Lou Gion creates first TA exclusive. While many companies that normally produce TA exclusives aren't creating new exclusive cigars, In 2021, there's one company that is making its debut Tobacco Association of America exclusive series program release, the Illusion TAA exclusive 2021, will be a 6x34x52, Toro made entirely of Nicaraguan tobacco, I've been working on and off with a particular tobacco for a couple of years now that Eduardo, why did they put his name in parentheses, Eduardo grows off and on, said Don, oh, Eduardo, that's not a Eduardo. Eduardo?
Is that a type of tobacco? Eduardo? Is that a type of tobacco? I don't know.
Eduardo? Dion Guigliotti, Illusion's founder to Half Wheel. I made some things personally for myself to smoke when I'm at the factory using my Viso. Using this Viso.
Is this his Viso card? His Viso card. He's spied it on Visa. It is very comfortable with now and know how to utilize it within the context of a blend.
It is full-bodied, rich, and goes deep. There's all the characteristics of an Illusion cigar when blended correctly. See, the manufacturer's real price is $15 per cigar, is limited to 3,500 boxes of 10 cigars, no shipping date has been announced. TAA only.
Okay, so do you have to be a TAA member to only offer a TAA cigar? Yep. Ah, that was the question. Why don't we make one?
We're not TAA members. Well, I didn't know if maybe this is a way to get in. I'm trying to get us into the TAA. Hey, we'd like to make you a cigar.
Maybe you invite us to your little party party party. Just do your little party, party. Nah. We're going to hang out in the Caribbean with Abe and David Garofalo.
I'm at a point in my career where I'm not dry begging for fucking anything. We're not dry begging. You go ahead and you fucking let me know. You want me in?
I'll be, you know, maybe I'll think about it. I'm very angry. I'm not angry. So angry.
Nope, not angry. This is the first time that Lugion has released a TAA exclusive. You're angry. The company be...
What are you doing? I'm going to move your mic, please. Don't do that. Yes.
Don't. That's... You're going to stop me. I'm going to start getting my squirt gun out again.
Oh, oh, you want to die. TAA is a very small group of some became a small group of the country. Death by retailer. Top tobacco.
Suicide by retailer. Retailers where 40 or so manufacturers association gathers annually discuss issues facing industry and retailers as well. That's funny, sit around discussing issues. That's funny.
We sit around discussing issues all the fucking time. No, that's what they do. They say, we go, we meet, we discuss issues, but I mean, what are they doing? Drinking.
I mean, but yeah, you know. Strippers running in and out. No, no, man. Are you talking about TAA?
Like the reality is that's really the really fucking most important part about. During the event, the organization holds two. Okay, just ignore me. No, no, I'm just reading the next line that helps with your story.
See, he's so angry. 13 companies releasing new TAA cigars. No, that was it. What else are you saying?
No. I'm about to read the list. It's imperative to have those relationships and continue to talk to manufacturers, brand owners, other retailers to kind of work together so that we can resolve certain things. Yes, but if they are a included type group, how can they fix any issues outside of their group?
Well, I mean, now you're getting into some really, really deep conversations, right? I mean, like, you're talking about, like, the top 10% retailers or whatever are in their own little bubble. Right, that's what I'm saying. So, I mean, they're fixing problems that would only affect them.
Or, you know, that Cigar Hustler guy has really got a lot of trouble with the guy up the street. We should probably do something about that. No, or maybe how can they fuck up, how can they fucking, you know... Crush the Cigar Hustler people.
I don't want to crush the middle retailers. Middle-till retailers. See, that's what I mean. How do we break them?
It said they're discussing issues. Allegedly. Yeah, they're discussing issues that affect the industry. Yeah.
Well, they're discussing issues that affect them. Probably. That's what I was getting into. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. That's a safe analogy. Yes. All right.
So here are the 13 companies that are releasing TA exclusive cigars this year. All right, 13. PCA is fucking barely putting together three so far, and TA is rolling with Dion. 13.
Why didn't Dion fucking do PCA? P. C. Newman, Hoya De Nicaragua, Christophe, La Flor Dominicana, La Palina, Rocky Patel, Villager, No Padron.
No Padron. No Tatuaji? No Tatuaji? No Tatuaji.
No Tatuaji, no Padron. Nope. Interesting. No Monte Cristo's.
Hmm. Interesting. Very, very interesting. I thought that was very interesting.
Huh. There's some medium-sized companies in here. I wonder what that's about. There's some big company in there.
There's some new company in there. There's some old companies in there. I wonder what that's about. Are we boring you?
Boring you, Michael? Yeah, that's your fucking go-to move. I know. I just fucking yawn.
Give me a break. Dude. I just yawned. Counted the fillings in your head.
I don't have any fillings. That's what I counted, none. Okay, another follow-up to last week. I brushed my teeth, Michael.
Another follow-up story to last week. North Dakota Senate with the cigar lounges? Oh, yeah, yeah. They said no.
No. North Dakota Senate defeats cigar lounge bell. They fucking threw it out. Threw it out.
You can't smoke it. This is ridiculous. North Dakota Senate has snuffed out the hopes of cigar smokers looking to see cigar bars and lounges open in the state. As the Chamber defeated HB 1152, get this, get this, Michael, 24 to 23.
Oh! The vote on last Wednesday. Got to be faster than that. You almost had it.
That's close. You were that close. These 24 assholes said, you know what? The bill sought to create an exemption to the state restrictions on smoking indoors and in places of employment, which would then allow cigar bars and lounges to operate legally.
Oh, so apparently they can operate illegally. Yeah. To qualify as a Cigar Bar or Lounge, a business would have to meet a number of criteria. It's almost like they're Canadian.
They're so close to that. North Dakota? Well, they're very close. They're almost Canadian, maybe.
Why don't they just bridge off into Canada? We don't need them. Actually, we can't do that. There's two Air Force.
On the revenue side, Cigar Bars would have to generate 10% or more of their salvage gross income from the sale of cigars, while a Cigar Lounge would have to generate at least 30% of its gross income from the sale of cigars. You know, there's a lot of stupid people out there, apparently, and at least 24 of them in North Dakota are fucking politicians. I can assure you of that. God damn.
The opponents criticize the bill as a step backwards in the state's effort to create a healthier workplace. Ugh, give me a fucking break. As well as the overall health of residents. Where the bill could potentially come back up for another vote, its sponsor...
Where's your data? Dan Ruby. Where's your fucking data? He's not looking to...
he's not looking to do it again. Yeah, of course not. The bill passed out to our representatives 48 to 45 in mid-February, but last Wednesday, 24 to 23. That is, you know what, I'm sorry for your North Dakotans.
If you would like to come visit here, we will give you 10% off on your cigar purchase. Hey, I'm from North Dakota. If you have a North Dakota driver's license. I'm going to give you a hug.
And oh, and a hug. I'll wear a mask, but I'll give you a hug. Oh. That's very nice of you.
Safety first. I'm sorry that you have, you need to vote. You need to vote. You need to find the 24 that voted against it and push them out of that fucking legislation.
Vote against them. It's so stupid. It's just ridiculous. All right.
We're halfway through the second tab of the show. I can't. Oh, my God. So we're down to the Florida news now, Michael.
We're here to protect you from you. We want to save you from you. Someone in the Tampa area, Michael, woke up to be a millionaire today. Uh-oh.
There was one winning ticket, and someone in Lutz matched all six numbers to grab $230 million grand prize, according to the Powerball website. Could be Danny. The winner will have the cash-ups at $160. I want you to know, Michael, that was me.
Fuck you, I'm on here. I'm leaving. You're not from Tampa. I bought a ticket.
You're not coming in? That's ridiculous. The winning ticket was sold at the Publix on Nebraska Avenue in Lutz. The winning numbers drawn on Saturday were 6, 14, 38, 39, and 65.
So was that Powerball or something? Yes, Powerball 6, the power play was three times before Saturday Night of the Jackpot was last one, January 30th, so someone would like to buy Cigar Hustler with your $160 million, that's just about what the going price is, just give us a call. We're gonna drive a hard bargain, but we'll probably fold at $160. I think, yeah, I think we can convince Greg to take the $160.
Okay, we got $160 on the line here. Done! Sold! Sold!
Get him out of here! Everybody go on, you're all fired! You're all fired. Wait, stay.
He's going to need you. See, a Florida man saves his own arm after a sneaky shark attack. A sneaky shark attack? A 20-year-old Florida man was enjoying some time off swimming near the Juno Beach Pier last week when he felt pain in his left arm.
Ow, ow, heart attack. He thought it was a heart attack. Oh. Bryce Albert of Naples was out for a windy day at the beach and his friends on Thursday afternoon he had been wading through the water.
He remembered that the waves were large and choppy but the air was sandy and the group entered the water multiple times. The current pushed the group closer and closer to the pier, which is when Albert, a high school soccer player, felt an extremely unique sensation like being kicked with a metal soccer cleat. He's 24. I don't know.
Okay. The Auburn University sophomore, yes, he's in college. He's in college. The Auburn University sophomore initially thought a friend had kicked him in.
So he tied in the fact that he played soccer in high school? Who the fuck wrote this article? No, he's playing soccer at Auburn University. Oh, he's a high school soccer player.
He did say hockey. Yeah, you're right, I did. What the fuck is going on, man? I don't know.
He thought someone had kicked him with a metal cleat in the water. What do you think? One of his friends had cleats on? And they were metal.
In the water. I thought it was like a metal cleat. Not plastic. He pulled his arm out of the water.
It was candy red, and there was a piece of fat or muscle sticking out. They're fat or muscles sticking out, so Albert got out of the water quickly, because it's good. Mm-hmm . .
Ow, who's got gleets on? Oh, shit! Okay. He had been bitten by a shark, though he never saw the attacker.
Worried about causing a panic at the beach, Albert shielded his arm and headed to the lifeguard station. He's got a piece of meat. Don't look at me. Don't touch me.
Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.
Mr. Lifeguard. Luckily, they had a lifeguard station there, was able to get my arm wrapped up in some gauze, and ultimately could be saving grace, And why I still have my arm today, because I would have lost so much blood, probably without that there, he told Fox News on Wednesday, it sounds like the shark bed, oh shit, oh my bad, and then bailed, well that's what they say, normally shark attacks in Florida are, it's not a shark bite, it's a shark tasting, like, oh, you're not, you're not a seal, I don't want that, what is that human, the lifeguard bandaged Albert Sarum and his friend James drove him 25 minutes to the St. Mary's Medical Center in West Palm Beach.
During the trip, he called his mother, Tracy, who he believed thought originally that he had just gotten arrested. What did he do? What did you do, Albert? What did he do?
You tell him that he needs to sit in prison for a day and I'll bail him out tomorrow so he can think about what he did. Or was in trouble and was attempting to defuse the situation, seeing he had been bitten by a shark. So she thought he made it up. You're lying to me.
What do you mean you got bitten by a shark? You're lying to me, Albert. I don't appreciate you're not being funny. Medical staff told him the wound was likely from a six-foot blacktip shark.
Yeah, it's a reef shark. Yeah, blacktip. Six foot is not big. Big enough you should have seen it.
Yeah, they blend though. They're not camouflaged. Come on man, that kid's fucking 24, he's high as fuck. You know it, yeah, he's fucking wasted.
Mama shark bit me, what did you do? Fucking shark bit me. What did you do, Albert? Oh, Albert.
How many times I had to tell you to stay away from the marijuana? The police arrested you, it's not legal. How much money? What's the bail?
How much is the bail? I want to know where I have to pick you up. Poor Albert. Sorry, Albert.
Now he's got a great story. Yeah, yeah, I was really fucking high, and I got bad. My daddy told that story. The shark gets to be 10, 15, 20 feet long.
Like, it hasn't registered. It was like Jaws. Yeah, so there's this great white on the edge, and I'm so numb. It was a child.
It was swimming near. I went to go save it. I stuck my arm in its mouth to save the baby. I broke the jaw of the shark.
And now I'm the winter soldier. You went there. That's nice. Went to Wakanda.
Went to the winter soldier. I got the vibranium. Oh, are you watching the winter soldier? Of course I'm watching the winter soldier.
It's amazing. All right, we discussed how I have this Disney thing. Okay. So I went to log, I went to, you know, turn the app on to watch the thing.
And whoever, I'm not saying who I got it from, but they have closed their account apparently. They have figured it out. Well, they closed their account. They probably watched the last podcast.
But there was an option to where you can turn it back on. To renew it? To turn it back on? You fucking renewed it.
No, no, I didn't. I thought twice. I'm like, "I could just hit this. " Son of a bitch.
It was like, yeah. Renew now. To re-up your thing. Just buy the fucking thing.
Just hit the button. It's like 10 bucks a month or something. We're about to change our phone plan. Are you going Verizon?
Yeah, we're going to go Verizon. It's included. It's included. And then Hulu, because we already paid for Hulu, so we'll just close that and use theirs.
Yeah, shut that down. And then give them your password. Return the favor. Do the right thing.
They didn't even tell me. So, do you know how all this is breaking down with Winter Soldier, right? So, there's a new Captain America, blah, blah, blah. Oh, is that the goofy, funny people they're showing?
Well, it's Kurt Russell's son. Oh, I like Kurt Russell. So, apparently, he's actually a US agent. He's not Captain America.
And his buddy, his partner in crime is Battlestar. But they haven't said any of that shit yet, but if you know the comics, you know a little bit about it. Is it the one who used to be on that other show? Because it doesn't look like him in that thing.
Who? Who? His son is a regular actor. Is this a younger son?
He looks like Kurt Russell. He looks like he looks like the love child of Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn is what he looks like. Okay, because he has a son. Well, Kate Hudson, his daughter, it's actually his stepdaughter.
She has a brother, but it's not Kurt Russell's natural son. No, this is definitely Kurt Russell's son, without question. You look at him, you're like, son of a bitch. I'm going to have to Google the guy.
I've only seen the picture with the helmet. Yeah. Oh. Mm-hmm.
So, it's panning out pretty nice. I like the show. Is it good? Yeah.
Because it's not getting great reviews. Neither did the five-year. Fuck 'em. The five-year?
Yeah, the going on say. Oh, yeah. We'll find out. It didn't get good reviews either, apparently.
We'll let you know what I think. All right, we have a listener of the week. Action-packed. It's very fun.
Are they hours or 30? It's an hour long. Oh, that's good. It's perfect.
Wasn't The Mandalorian only 30 minutes, 45 minutes? Yeah, it's too fast. Yeah, it's not enough. All right.
We have a Listener of the Week. Listener of the Week. Justin Sousi is Listener of the Week. Ooh.
He's a regular here at the shop. Yes. He hangs out. He likes to text me after the show and ask questions sometimes.
Oh, that's cool. I said, Justin, you can be Listener of the Week next week. Oh, you told him. Yeah, how do you pronounce your last name, I asked him, because it's spelled unusually.
It's Sousi. It's French-Canadian, apparently. Oh. So I said, I need it, I need it phonetically because, you know, French can, so he comes in on Thursdays when I'm working so we can chit chat and stuff normally too.
And now we can ask you questions about why the fuck he's listening to the week. Right. Oh, okay. So why am I listening to the week?
Justin, when you come in on Thursday, I need you to say that. Why am I listening to the week? So let me ask you, why the hell was I listening? Because he's listening.
I understand. I want him to ask that question. Well, I already told him I'd make him listen to the week. He's very thrilled.
That's good. Yes. Justin, thank you. Thank you, Justin, for listening.
Thank you very much. All right, I'll remind everybody to listen tonight on the shirtless mic show. We'll be on that. Yes, we will.
Do you have anything else? We're at 23 minutes on the second. No, I mean, I got like one other thing, but I don't think I want to bring it up. No, go ahead.
It's about my buddy, Jason. Oh, okay. Well, if you want to throw that out there, you can. Well, so like I've done a couple of little posts with like socks and shit and wearing Batman and stuff like that.
My buddy's, he's in a really bad car accident. I don't want to go too far into the details. Oh, is that the Batman thing's connected to him? It is.
Oh, he's a big Batman guy. He's a Batman guy, so I do, so they do like Batman signals up and people didn't understand that. So I kind of letting them know now. Yeah, he's on a motorcycle and, uh, someone hit him and he's, uh, he's fighting for his life right now in a coma.
So, um, my thoughts and prayers are going out to him and, uh, I hope that he's going to be okay. Yes. And so does Mike, Mike Palmer. Yes.
I don't know where they would say, I mean, I don't know. We've already discussed it several times and yeah, yeah. And, uh, I've made a a lot of mistakes throughout the past two weeks because of it because all you do is you think about it and then you realize that you're making huge you're doing errors every day which sucks but I'm trying so alright this has been episode 167 yeah and we're doing the five years oh don't forget to like and subscribe and comment on the YouTube for the hat yes for the hat and then we'll review for always and then you go ahead go ahead now what are we doing we're going to review We're going to do the five-year Wave and Say on the Patreon, on the Patreon, which is what we're going to do next. I was going to start to say coming up next.
Yeah. All right. So then we got to go. All right, let's go.
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Show Notes
This week we find out Mikey isn't as good as he thought! Mrs Brittany clears up some untruths...and Mike 2 won the lottery!!
Plus the usual yada yada and industry news