85-Year-Old Busted Running a Secret Cigar Shop in a Retirement Home! | ACHP 591
Episode Summary
Episode 591 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast finds Mike "BDP" Palmer back in the host chair alongside co-host Mike Szczepankiewicz and engineer Phil McGuffey, opening with shop talk about the new retail site going live, a crashed email notification test, and YouTube/Patreon listener comments — including a light-hearted post-mortem on the previous episode that Palmer missed, where guest Oliver sat in.
The headline story: an 85-year-old man in Sarasota, Florida was charged with operating an unlicensed tobacco business after staff at his assisted living facility found he had converted a supply closet into a functioning walk-in humidor, complete with a temperature-controlled cabinet, rolling table, shelves of boxes, and a spiral ledger tracking sales by resident room number. Roughly $19,000 in cigars — reportedly including Cohiba, Montecristo and Partagás — were recovered after more than a year of quiet operation serving residents, visiting family and two off-duty nurses. The crew debates whether a competitor narked on him and jokes about hosting a Rocky Patel event at the facility.
Cigar news covers three releases: Creekside Cigars (Cincinnati) launching its own nationwide brand, Queen of the West, starting with the Beldoro 6x48 Toro — an Ecuadorian Connecticut-seed desflorado wrapper over Connecticut broadleaf binder with Dominican, Nicaraguan and US filler, made at Tabacalera La Isla with owner Hostos Fernández Quesada; the Room 101 17th Anniversary, a Nicaraguan puro 6x52 Toro made by AJ Fernandez, with the hosts recapping Matt Booth's path from Camacho and Davidoff to Room 101 under STG; and the Rocky Patel America 250, a San Andrés-wrapped 6x52 Toro aged in Estelí and slated to ship in September exclusively through the Traveling Road Show.
The show closes with "What's the Score?", the crew's guessing game against Half Wheel reviews. This week's target is the Hiram & Solomon Mystic Tie, a $16 barber pole from PDR Cigars. Palmer and Mikey volley between 87 and 75 as Charlie Minato's clues roll in — a first third lasting over an hour, flat transitions, earth and wood dominating — before the final score lands at 80, one point above the hosts' own Postanos Sumatra, which Palmer is smoking all week to prove its consistency after its 81. They also float adding blind unbanded reviews to the midweek shows.
In This Episode
- 01Housekeeping and Listener CommentsUpdates on the new retail and wholesale sites, an email crash during order testing, and YouTube comments about the previous episode and the upcoming 600th show.
- 02Detroit Zoo Giraffe StoryThe crew covers the death of Nguvu, a young giraffe at the Detroit Zoo, and riffs on miniature house-pet giraffes.
- 0385-Year-Old's Secret Cigar ShopA Sarasota assisted living resident charged with running an unlicensed tobacco business out of a supply closet turned walk-in humidor holding $19,000 in cigars.
- 04Brazil Escort Murder CaseThe Marcos Kitano Matsunaga killing and Elize Matsunaga's release from prison after a decade.
- 05'Hobosexual' Dating TrendThe hosts pick apart a new dating buzzword about people entering relationships to dodge rent, and argue it's just an old idea with a new name.
- 06Creekside Cigars Launches Queen of the WestThe Cincinnati retailer debuts its own national brand with the Queen of the West Beldoro Toro made at Tabacalera La Isla.
- 07Room 101 17th AnniversaryMatt Booth's annual limited release returns as a Nicaraguan puro 6x52 Toro blended with AJ Fernandez, plus a look back at Room 101's history.
- 08Rocky Patel America 250A San Andrés-wrapped Toro aged in Estelí, shipping September as a Traveling Road Show exclusive.
- 09What's the Score? — Hiram & Solomon Mystic TieGuessing Charlie Minato's Half Wheel score for a $16 barber pole made at PDR Cigars, and a debate on whether the wrapper really drives a cigar's flavor.
Brands & Cigars Discussed
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Transcript
All right. It's that time again. I'm going to take the mask off. No, I'm just kidding.
All right. Here we go. Two. Oh my God.
You get so far away, it's blurry. Like one of those Realtor song guys. Here we go. You didn't say three.
No, no, Harry went past that. Oh. He didn't even say one. He just said two.
Good point, he went right to two. I missed you guys yesterday. Welcome to a Cigar Hustler Podcast, where the cigars are premium and the opinions are unfiltered and the conversations have no boundaries. I'm your host, Mike BDP Palmer, and in the co-host seat, we have Mike, the Polish King Szczepan Kiewicz.
Hi. He's so excited. I'm a little crooked. And the man from the voice of the new animated movie, In the Out Hole, our engineer, Phil McGuffey.
In the Out Hole. Hello again, peoples. I'm here. I'm here.
Whether it's cigars, sports, business, current events, pop culture, or the craziest stories making headlines, if it's worth talking about, we're going to talk about it. Got it! No scripts, no safe spaces, just honest conversations, big laughs, and the kind of show that can go from premium cigars to absolute chaos in a matter of seconds. Every episode is a real conversation, different perspectives, and plenty of unexpected turns along the way.
So settle in and welcome back to A Cigar Hustlers Podcast. What's the dun-dun-dun? Dun-dun-dun. Dun-dun-dun.
All week I've had to ask for that. On today's show, our hearts go out to the Terrence Riley family. Social Security just won't pay the bills anymore. See, the grass isn't always greener.
I wonder if Phil has done this before. And then in cigars, Creekside has their own cigar and their own team money now. The fake team money. We're not saying that anymore.
Rocky Patel ships her Freedom Cigar in September. Freedom. It's already passed. Little late, little late.
And Room 101 celebrates again. Yes. " But first, Mikey, how do you get some of that CH swag and what's everybody talking about in the lounge? Like and subscribe wherever you're viewing and listening to this show.
com for all your CH Pod swag. com, Us Cigar Hustlers podcast. Let's get started for our Inside Baseball Conversations and let me see what we got. Good show this week.
Which one? The Patreon you just mentioned. Oh. Well, we do six.
But you just said the Patreon. You know, 590 is not on there. Oh, of course not. This is so weird.
Is it way down at the other end? Oh, remember they're a day behind. Yeah. I'll fix it.
I'm sorry. That's all right. I'm sorry. That's all right.
There's a lot going on. I'm working on getting the retail site live. I'm just trying to push it and just deal with the chaos. Sure.
So I did a test order today and I'm like, you know what? We didn't receive a notification that an order came in. So I was like, okay, well, let's change that to its own email that we can all see instead of it going to mine. As soon as I did that, I crashed all the emails.
One too far. Yeah, so, so that was fun. So, by the time this is up, though, Monday, yeah, the site should be live. This is Monday.
Oh. Oh, I guess you have plenty. Oh, that was nice. Thank you.
Sorry, I didn't mean to do that right now. Thank you so much. My hands are hurting today. That was incredible.
Sorry, didn't mean to do it in the microphone. Hmm. Some comments from our YouTube page from the previous show. Come on, Mikey's mom.
Which, thank you guys, when YouTube turns those comments off, just let me know and I'll turn them back on. It's literally a clickable button. I don't know why they're doing it. Yeah, it might just be a default now.
You have to go in and maybe I missed it last night. It did used to be, so I guess I'll check that over the weekend when I do this show. Well, I punched Claude into it this time around, so Claude added everything. Gotcha.
Which is interesting. From @coreydavis7347 says, "The wholesale site is awesome and super easy to use. " Thank you, brother. I appreciate that.
It's coming along, man. It looks pretty good. I know that you were using it on your travel day yesterday. Yeah, even on my phone.
It's a little harder to use on the phone because things don't flow exactly the same way as you do on the bigger screens, obviously, but I was able to navigate through it, though, and still I could use it. Just tell me where you're getting snagged on mobile and I'll revamp it. Oh, okay, I figured it was just all one thing. Mm-mm.
Oh, okay, good, 'cause I do have a request then. Okay. @CW6383 says, "Now I have to bid against Oliver too. " None of us can.
I don't think that, um... Just hit the "Buy Now" button. Well, he didn't bid. Oh.
Which mask does Oliver want? I think he's more intrigued with the Unicorn. Oh, that one's not up yet. Well, no, he said the Eagle, what says United more than...
Oh, yeah. He could wear it as he drives around? Yeah. Yeah.
Well. Then people will think Phil works for United. Oh, they won't know who you are. I would bet that he doesn't bid on it.
You should send him the link to bid. Text it to him? Yeah. Hey, you mentioned this on the show.
Yeah. Yeah, you forgot this. You forgot this. Just thought you should have it.
Yeah, just so you can bid on it. Yeah. All the other guys are snapping at the bid. Yeah.
" Everybody loves the beaver. Everybody loves the beaver. Everybody loves the beaver. Everybody loves the beaver.
" It's nine now. Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't. We'll do something. I don't know why we'll do something.
Maybe like Keanu popping out of a cake or something? No, no, no. No? Only if it's like the, uh, the movie.
The movie, the movie on the train where the, or the, was it, no, on the train, it was on the battleship or whatever. Under Siege. Under Siege, yeah. Yeah, it was a great movie.
@dwesthetics3432 says, "It's okay, you can pronounce my last name, Wolsten Holm. " Yeah, sorry, dude. It's uh... Is that our new Canadian friend?
No, no. Oh. This is the apostate guy. Oh, oh, gotcha.
- Did you listen to the show? - No. - You didn't? - No.
- I asked several people their opinions. - Yeah? - Yeah. - What'd they say?
- Well, one guy mentioned that the Oliver Sound kept coming and going, which is probably just a mic problem. - Yeah. - Yeah, and they said it was a good show, I mean, you know, obviously they said it wasn't as good as what I'm on, obviously, but clearly. You know, what I need to do is I need to pre-read the...
- I do every day, and then I practice the first two stories before everybody gets here. - Yeah, I need to do that, Because I've just felt me reading too much, and I don't like that. But to be fair, Boots just kind of, I mean, Phil just kind of. Oh, it's my fault.
Here we go. Phil checked out. Well, here's the thing. I didn't check out.
Here's the thing. Like, you started to come alive like 30 minutes in. So I had to kind of drag the show along because, look, whenever you have a guest on the show, they're always going to be a little more timid and quiet. I don't know what you guys want from me anymore.
Like, sometimes people comment, I talk too much, and then, you know, it's like, Then you want me to talk more? What do you want from it? I want you to know what to do. It's been eight years.
I shouldn't have to tell you every episode. I want you to talk a lot. I don't want you to talk over people, and I want you to say dumb things. It's not...
This is none of the... Banana. Thank you. Right.
You could have yelled out banana yesterday. Perfect. Perfect. And when there's a guest, you have to pick up the slack a little bit.
Yeah. You got to realize that that person is not on a show every weekday, right? I didn't want to rob, you know, Oliver of his throne, or chair, or whatever. Of his throne?
His throne. His area. Well, I needed you. You could have been, like, in the beginning, like, hey, uh, Phil, bring the boom.
I'm like, ba-boom. Sometimes I do say that, I'm like, hey, come on, what are we doing? You need to step this up. Yeah.
And I did not. That is fair. Wow. " Well-- Is that a comment from Palmer?
No. I got news for you at iHeartBDP. He was on the show. Yesterday?
Yeah. Did you do a funny voice? That's all I'm saying. Now I have to watch it.
Oh, you didn't watch it? No, I didn't watch it. Oh, you should have never said it that way. I don't have time for that.
I mean, it came out at five o'clock this morning. You know what's interesting is, did you change the, no, it's all right, okay. @BenRoland said: "No grown adult with good intentions showing up to meet with an 11-year-old girl unannounced to parents. " He's 100% correct.
I thought you'd enjoy that story. That was a good one. That was a good one. The semen one didn't even work.
I meant to take that out of the way, but I was told that a piece of it got left in somehow. With Oliver on the show, I took that one out. Why? I don't know, it just seemed inappropriate.
He started to thrive on it a little bit. Did he? So does he participate in the... Wait a second.
the back-up semen in your body to get higher testosterone? We will never know because we didn't read the full article. So wait a second, Palmer, you think if me, you, and Mikey are just talking about it, it's not inappropriate to the people watching. I know, because you get uncomfortable.
He works out all the time, so it sort of fits with the show. By the way, the Jim Penis short is surging. Is it? Yeah.
Great. There's probably a lot of weightlifting dudes watching it. " Like, you're getting a whole mixed bag. A mix of 'em, ah, good.
The gravity all over again. Yeah. Jim Penis. And then, like, somebody called us idiots again.
Ah, nice. It was pretty good, yeah. Is it the same person? No, it's a totally different person.
Maybe that's just their standard thing. Yeah, his handle was. And everything. Small, small wee wee 333.
By the way, I'm going to be smoking the Sumatra Churchill all week. Nice. To prove its consistency. Ah, gotcha, gotcha.
Okay. To prove its consistency. Which one specifically are you smoking? That Vitola?
The one that got the 81, yeah. Okay. Because of its draw issues or whatever. So, here I am, smoking it without a problem.
Yeah, 81. And if I haven't made my point after a whole week, I may smoke it the following week, we'll see. Oh. I can't believe that cigar got an 81.
Mm-hmm. The Wahoo got an 87. Yeah, I know. Oh, and he sandbagged them.
Oh, see, here we go. He definitely cheated. How would he know what cigar it was? He had to have looked it up mid-con...
Dude, I promise you, I never surf anything for half-wheel. Go watch the show. He can't spell it. Well, I'm gonna have to now.
Go watch the show. Apparently I was on the show. He nailed the cigar real price pretty close. And then he was in the '90s the entire time for the review, and then all of a sudden, final thought, boom, he popped right off on it.
He, Oliver was watching me the whole time. He knows I wasn't doing anything. I don't think he was watching you. I don't think Oliver was watching you.
Yeah. Guys, sometimes I'm sitting here and I don't even know what's going on. Like, I'm staring at you. We're well aware.
How am I, how am I gonna sit here and look at my phone? Like, I've zoned out sometimes. Sometimes I don't even know there's a show anymore. I don't know if there's a show anymore.
Sometimes you're talking and it's sitting on Palmer still. It's like being on the Peanuts cartoon. It's great. I love it.
Okay. If you want to hear a comment, read aloud on the show, simply comment below on our YouTube page or on our CH Pod Lounge. The new contest is up. Oh.
Oh. I don't even know what it is. The new contest is up. And you can thank David Hasselhoffman for it.
Oh, now I know what it is. Do you? Well, I don't know how you win, but I think I know what the prize is. Oh, by the way, the guy who won, he never reached out.
Was it the Canadian guy? Yeah, you're right, he was the Canadian guy. Oh. Maybe you should reach out to him on the comments.
How do we do that? Can't you just reply from I Heart Boots or I Love BDP on there? Well, you know. He's got to do a little work.
Yeah. com or something. I don't know. Email, contact, message.
Is that an email address that works? Yeah, that works. Oh. Yeah, something, buddy.
We need you. We need you. We need information. S.
Why don't we mail it to the border and he just picks it up? Well, I don't know. Like, I would like to try and figure it out. Right.
Even though technically... For John McTavish, we send stuff to Fishstick, so why would you send him to Fishstick? Does he make Fishstick the mule? No, I don't know when he ever gives stuff to John.
I guess when they see each other when McTavish comes to the... Hey, Coach Powerfill needs his stuff. Yeah, John probably knows him. They're Canadians.
Yeah, they have to know each other. Yeah, that's like population five. Right. Yeah.
Wait a second. We gotta be nice now. This is a good guy. Yeah, no, we like him.
We like him. We didn't say anything was bad. We just said, you know, they probably know each other. They're both in the same country.
The same country. Yeah. They're all, Canadians are nice. Yeah, they're all nice to each other.
Yeah. Yeah, I love John McTavish. Yeah, me too. Sweet guy.
He just doesn't watch 300 episodes at a time like the new guy does. Right, new guys all caught up. Yeah. One.
Yeah. Which is a terrible episode. Oof. It was.
Somebody was watching 145 upstairs the other day. Really? I Speak My Truth or whatever it's called. Somebody asked on Spotify about, hey, when are you going to add videos to Spotify?
And he was commenting on episode, like, 290 or something. Oh, I don't know when they clicked over. Yeah, we didn't know. We didn't make an announcement, but I mean, when you go to look, you think it was there.
Because I've watched him on Spotify before to see what it's like. It tells you, would you like audio or video? Right. Just like that?
Is that how it asks? Yeah, my butt is sore from the car ride yesterday. Dude, you were in the car for one day. Look at you.
I know! Your hands are a mess? No, that's not from the car. Your butt's a mess?
Your back's a mess? No, my back's not hurting today. My butt is, though. - My butt is, though.
- Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Well, let's, let's say, oh, this is Phil, uh, like, oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do the dirt.
- Wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. We're just still doing the show? Still doing it? - Yeah.
All right, let's get on with the show. - All right, we're heartbroken to share that Nguvu, the young male giraffe who joined the herd this spring, has died, the Detroit Zoo reported. - Oh. - Yes, it's very, it was very cute, little fellow.
On Saturday, August 1st, Nguvu was seriously injured during an interaction between members of the herd terrence riley in the giraffe's outdoor habitat our animal care staff responded immediately to terrence riley but they deferred to the giraffe and our close and our veterinary team closely monitored his condition despite every effort his condition deteriorated and when it became clear the injuries were too severe we asked terrence riley and he agreed that it was time to put him down oh man he made a decision yes oh allegedly allegedly oh even though naguvu was with us for For a very short time, he was deeply loved by the people who cared for him every day, the loss has been especially difficult for our animal care, and the Riley family, who gave him extraordinary care for the moment he was injured until the very end. What happened? He got trampled by the bigger giraffes. He was a baby giraffe.
It looks like a stuffed animal in the picture. I mean, he's cute as a thing, but apparently he got stepped on in a stampede. They couldn't see him? I guess, 'cause, I mean, he's, he, I mean, sitting down the picture, he was, I know they can't see me, but he didn't come above this chair, he wasn't very big.
Really? So maybe standing up, he might have been, you know, like that, maybe. He's very tiny. That's exactly how Lion King happened.
You know, if, you know, if we, if we could genetically modify giraffes so that they were little, they would be great house pets. Oh, yeah? They get bigger. You know, where they just kind of top, like, you know how they-- You want, like, the miniature cows, you want a miniature giraffe.
Yeah, you know how they, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know how they make the dogs really small and dumb? Minis? Yeah, they're like the teacup dog.
Oh, the teacup? I don't want a teacup giraffe. No, no, but like, I would just, you know. Like dog size.
Like about here, yeah. That'd be awesome. And come over, you give it some lettuce. Yeah, until he puts his nine-foot tongue in your ear.
Yeah, the tongue is as long as the neck. I could see Phil's next movie already. That's right. And we should send Terrence Riley some...
It's a tongue in my ear. We should send Terrence Riley some flowers. Just send it, don't say anything. Just don't say anything?
Send it, the flowers? Yeah. We're sorry. Sorry for your loss.
By the way, Jack Taranio is going to be on the show on Thursday. Yes, I saw that text yesterday. That's exciting. Well, it'll be Friday.
He'll be on Friday? No. Oh, you said it right the first time. I did.
I just saw the date. I didn't know the date. Yeah. And he's ringing Richie.
He originally told me he was going to ring Hector. Yeah. Hector would've, I mean, we could've just called out and just had Phil run it. Oh, yeah.
Which is what you have to do next Friday, a week from this Friday. It would've been a Heckle & Jekyll again. Yeah, a Heckle & Jekyll throwback. We could've put Hector over there.
Alright, our team continues to closely monitor the care for the rest of the herd because, you know, they're terribly upset that they stepped on the Goofu. Caring for wildlife is both a privilege and a profound responsibility. " Sorry for your loss. Moment of silence for Nguvu?
Interns. All right, let's move on. Interns. Interns, yes, and the interns.
" All right, moving on. Therapy sessions for the other giraffes? Yes, therapy, you know, just in case. Oh, speaking of therapy sessions, it's the way my mind runs.
You know the Shooter at the In-N-Out thing? Yeah. Okay, everyone who died, In-N-Out has given their family a million dollars and paying for the funeral. Okay.
For all the employees, they have lifetime therapy sessions. Okay. For any customers, they have a year to do any therapy sessions. They're paying for all this out-of-pocket, and the guy in the cut-off jeans and the cowboy hat, he gets free food for life.
Oh, the guy with the silencer? Yeah. Free Food for Life? Free Food from In-N-Out for Life.
Mmm. I don't know. I mean, that sounds like a good deal for Phil. Have you seen him in the interviews?
No. Okay, so you saw the pictures of him at the thing. He's got, you know, the cowboy hat, the cut-off jeans, and whatever that gun was, it's like this long. Well, he had a silencer on it.
Right, but it's still a big gun with a lip that goes up in it. Now, when he does the interviews, he's got on a military-looking hat, aviator sunglasses, and he wears that scarf around his neck like they wear in the Middle East. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he's dressing up.
I mean, good for him, though. I don't know. Was he retired military? No.
Oh, so he's just wearing that stuff? Yeah. Well, you know, he's a national hero now. So he figured the scarf is the way to go?
Is this in Texas or something? Yeah. Yeah. Whatever that thing's called.
Yeah. There's a word for it. It's like a monger. Yeah, a monger or something.
A scarf? You know, but they're not showing the... It's not a scarf. It's a scarf.
They're not showing the highway patrolman who also shot at the guy. I haven't even heard his name. That guy didn't get shit. Yeah, he's not getting anything, and he was off duty.
It's a man purse. It's a murs. It's a satchel. No, it's a scarf.
No, it's a scarf. Alright, an 85-year-old Sarasota, Florida man was reportedly charged with operating an unlicensed tobacco business after staff at his assisted living facility discovered what authorities described as a cigar-selling operation inside a supply closet. Oh, he had some side hustle. He had turned, it's a great picture, he had turned this supply closet into a walk-in humidor, he had a rolling table, he had humanors in there.
Really? Yeah. And we punished this guy? Yes, according to the report, Bernard Whitfield had converted the closet into a storage area for premium cigars.
The space reportedly included a working humidor, a temperature-controlled cabinet, and shelves containing boxes of cigars. Staff members said Woodfield had been operating the business for more than a year, his alleged customers, including other residents of the assisted living facility, visiting family members, and reportedly two off-duty nurses. In trouble. Investigators reportedly found approximately, guess how much, in cigars?
There's a dollar figure. Like money? Oh, money. There's a dollar figure.
I'm going to say 10,000. Are we doing retail or wholesale? I don't know what this is. I assume this is retail.
It says approximately. All right, we'll go retail. I'm going to go 50,000. $19,000 worth of cigars stored in the closet.
I won. Now one of our biggest customers is no longer available. Brands mentioned in the report included Cohiba, Monte Cristo, and Partagas. Really?
Bernie didn't have good taste, he got it. Well, he got what the people wanted, he had limited supplies, and we don't even know if they're real, it might be, you know. Cuban? Oh, they come in the three box with the little warning symbol?
They come in the clear top box with the, you know, plexiglass on top, and it says "Cuban" stamped on it in the smudged ink. Real, buy now. Winfield also allegedly maintained a spiral ledger documenting individual sales and identified customers by their resident room numbers. This guy was set up.
Maybe we should hire him. This dude was running an operation. Yes. And he's living in this assisted living.
And he lives there. So the closet's not in his room. It's like down the hall or something. Yeah, I'm gonna go to work today.
Gotta go to work. According to the staff, Whitfield installed the humidification equipment himself, reportedly using an extension cord to provide power to the cabinet. Don't pay attention to that cord, son. Don't let him see where it goes.
Dude, I just can't believe that somebody narked on this guy. Yeah, somebody had to rat him out. Or somebody saw the cord. " Right.
And it is. It was very cool. This guy's in his mid-80s. 85 years old.
Yeah. He's out here cranking, he's built a retail shop. Right. It's his little shop inside the place.
It's like a gift store. He's not hurting anybody. Well. And then here comes Frank, the Tattletale.
Uh-oh. Authorities ultimately charge the 85-year-old with operating an unlicensed tobacco business. Where was his at? Sarasota.
Oh, in Florida. Yeah, yeah. This competition narked on him. Yeah.
That's what happened. That's what happened. Some local guy found out he's dead. He can't do that.
Yeah. Oh, that's where Marta was. You know what? Gerard's probably behind it.
Gerard. Gerard might have supplied him. Oh, God. The reported discovery brought to an end an operation the staff said had been quietly functioning inside the Sarasota's living facility for more than a year.
That's a damn shame. It is. It was nice. It was a nice-looking humidor.
He did all right. Yeah, he did okay. What a bummer. Got to go see Mr.
Whitfield, I need some more cigars. So, he didn't do any time though, would he get a fine or something? I would imagine they probably just disassembled his humidor and told him he can't do it anymore. Oh, because he didn't go online and fill out the paperwork.
Didn't you say it was a federal offense or something? Well, no, I mean, you know, like he can't punch in that address and say, I need a tobacco license for here. O. Box nearby or something.
No, it doesn't work that way, the tobacco license. Oh, you have to have an address? Yeah. Well, you make up an address.
You make up an address? No one's checking. No one's checking. 123 ABC Street.
Well, no, I mean, like, you pick something nearby, and then, you know, I gotta go for a walk, and you check their mail every day. I mean, this guy's, you know, what is he selling, like, a hundred bucks a day, probably a half days. $19,000 worth of cigars in there. That's not a lot.
It is for a closet and an assisted living facility. All I'm saying, dude, he's not. And for old people and oxygen things. This guy's not churning a ton of stuff.
Well, no, he's not making rich, you're gonna buy the place. No, he's not doing that. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, this is the little, you know, onesie-twosie people are buying.
Onesie, twosie, people are buying... Yeah, he's not selling boxes. Yeah, it's not like there's an event on Friday with Rocky or something, you know? That would be funny.
You know what? We would do an event with you, Mr. Whitfield, if you want to carry ours. Rocky Patel shows up at the assisted living...
What is going on here? This is the assisted living center. Bring in the kegs. " Yeah.
Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. Bum, bum, ba-dum, bum, and that's why I'm here. Yes.
All right, this man left his wife, the mother of his children, to start a new life with a luxury escort. Oh. Because they were in love. Yes.
Years later, she killed him. They always are. Whoa. Years later, she couldn't take it anymore.
It went dark fast, sorry. Years later, she killed him after discovering he had been seeing other escorts. Oh, only allowed to see the one. Territories.
Marcos Kitano Massanuga was a wealthy executive at Yoki One, Brazil's best known food companies. His 2012 killing became one of the country's most infamous criminal cases. He divorced his first wife and married Eliza Arjudo Kitano Massanuga, who he had met while she was working as a luxury escort after Elise learned that Marcos was having affairs with other escorts. I feel like that's a surprise.
- I didn't see that coming. - Yeah, I didn't see that. I just thought, you know, you didn't love the first one, the first wife. - Yeah, I thought that I would do.
- I thought we had gone past this. - Yeah. - An argument inside their San Paolo apartment turned deadly, she fatally shot him. Following the killing, Elise dismembered Marcos' body and scattered his remains across multiple locations.
- Oh, she's a G. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - Oh, hell, yeah. - Initially attempting to make it appear that he had vanished.
- Yeah, he's gone. - He's gone. Would you like to see a little piece of image over there? She later confessed that a crime was convicted and the case captivated Brazil due to its gruesome details and the couple's high profile status.
The story was later featured in the true crime documentary series, Aliste Massanuga: Once Upon a Crime. She was released from prison after serving 10 years. Oh, so this is old. It started in 2012, yeah, she just got out recently.
So this is why the story surfaced again. Right. So, now she's out on her own, but I don't know if you should date her or not. I'm doing what I got.
Has a little bit of an attitude. Well, okay, anybody, I don't know if anybody should date her. Apparently, there's a little bit of jealousy. I'm gonna tell my wife that you're trying to get me to date this old hooker.
She'll just yell at you, not me. I'm gonna call her right now and say, Palmer's telling me that he's trying to get me to leave you. I told you if you didn't, be careful. Yeah, well, I'm not.
I mean, your wife might cut you up anyway, so. Oh, yeah, I walk out the door, right? - Yeah, it would be... - You hear the saw running.
- Yeah. - Greg, I need to borrow the saw. - I mean, she feeds me all the time. You know what I mean?
She'd just poison me and it'd be done. - Oh, yeah. - Yeah, all of a sudden my head would just go down on the counter. " Daddy's tired.
- Daddy's sleeping. He's been there for three days. - Forever. - Yeah, he's fine.
Just leave him. - It's fine. - Uncle Greg's gonna be over and take care of this for us. - Uncle Greg's gonna come by and move him.
- He's gonna help me take him upstairs. You kids should go somewhere else, we don't have an upstairs, don't worry about that. It'll be fine, it'll be fine, everything's fine. All right, Phil, here's your story.
Here we go. Move over, gold diggers, there's a new dating buzzword making the rounds, hobo-sexual. Wow. I'm guessing it's something to do with homeless people.
It's a homeless dude, a dirty guy. It describes someone who gets into a relationship not because they found the love of their life, The idea is simple. Romance becomes a solution to rising rent prices. Instead of signing a lease, they move in with a partner.
While the term has been around for years, reports suggest that the behavior has increased by more than 50% over the last decade. So people are faking being in love for a nice two-bedroom, two-bath apartment for the view. What? I mean, if he can sling it, you know what I'm saying?
Like, what's the problem? Are they just roommates? If she's good, she's good with that, what are we doing? Well, you don't tell her.
You make her think you love her. Oh, I love you. I love you. Oh, this is like a catfish.
Yes. But it's more, it's more elaborate. Right. You have to fake love and relations.
Fake love and relations. You gotta bring her flowers. Wow. Every now and then.
From the garden, 'cause you don't have any money. You know, and go in the out. You gotta go in the out. I don't know what that is.
A Phil Love Story. Phil Love Story. Go in the out of Phil Love Story. Mental health experts say these relationships can become unhealthy because they're built on financial need instead of genuine compatibility.
The person providing the home may eventually feel used or taken advantage of while the other partner becomes increasingly dependent on the arrangement. I'm going to stop you right there. This sounds like complete horseshit. Why?
Rent has gone up, housing has gone up, so people are faking this. If you have a nice house, I'll tell you I love you and then I get to move in. Yeah, but you knew the dude or whatever didn't have cash, didn't have flow at all, right? And then you let him into the house, you exploit, all of a sudden he's going to deliver some money, you know what I mean?
No, you pay for everything at your house and I'll buy groceries or something, my job doesn't afford me to live in this type of home. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So you're aware. Depends on how good the guy or the girl is at convincing you that they love you.
This is not a hobosexual. This is just a shallow person. Yeah. It's called a hobosexual.
Yeah. This is just a... That's what all the cool kids are saying. Like, this is a shallow individual.
Certainly, yes. And... This is not a well-rounded person. That'd be...
And if you're that naive, I mean, you didn't see that come... Like... No, no, no. Sorry.
Yeah, break up. Yeah, I'm not buying this at all. Oh my god, I can't believe he used me. He's been sitting on the couch playing Fortnite for six months.
No, he still goes to work and stuff. Or she. Yeah, she's just not paying. And then, you know, they bring you home flowers, you go out to dinner, they pay maybe, you know, but you pay the bulk of the household things.
It sounds like that guy's committed, that person, that individual. Which one's committed? The one that, because he's paying a couple of things? Yes.
Yeah, but he couldn't afford the rent, so he doesn't really, you know, love you, but he says the words. Well, maybe he loves her eventually. Maybe, who knows? I don't know.
That's what I'm saying. This is just so... Who created this word? The public?
I don't know who makes up words. So I don't know who makes up words. Yeah, this is just lame. Because hobo.
I know a hobo. Yeah. Someone who doesn't have a place to live. Homeless person.
Exactly. Right. And sexual means they perform. It's a gigolo, bro.
What are we talking about? Right. It's been around forever. So the person...
Anyways, I'm not getting into this retardism. Get into it. Get into it. Let's go.
There's too much retardism for me. Get into it. Let's go. You're just mad somebody gave you your life a word?
No, this is... No, that's not my life. Your wife is a very successful business owner. It's true.
I mean, it's got a point there. But she knew what she was getting into is my point. But you can create an illusion. You think that he's a Decepticon?
Well, I don't say he can. Was he a Decepticon over here? First of all, I created the company. Yeah, yeah, he created the company.
Yeah, and I worked it from the ground up. And he built it. Right, until it got too busy, too much work, so here. Here, now I'm going to go play.
I'm going to go play? Different story, but kind of. But he loves his wife. I mean, he's dropping loads producing babies.
That just locks him in. And neither one of us are hobos. It's got uncommitted. Yeah, right.
Yeah, but you would be a hobo if she owned it. Does she own everything on paper? No, it's my house. Well, they're married.
They're both on the same, they're on the same deed. Well, yeah, but I mean, what if they had it? Well, it didn't mention if these people ever went so far to get married. Married.
The guy might have just been living there going, I love you. Let's get married. Not yet. I'm not quite ready.
Yeah. Again, that sounds like a failed relationship with a deadbeat. Yeah. Guy's a loser.
I'm not saying it's a good idea. I'm just reading the news. Like she should have saw that coming. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Baby, he's got a big, you know, and she just... Well, then just take the D and keep it moving. I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah. Yeah. Or if it's the other way around, it's just her sugar daddy. If she's got a big D?
I mean, if that's what he's into, you know, who am I to judge? Right. You live your life. You live your life.
Yeah, not my world, it's your world. Yeah. Yeah. That could be a movie title too.
Not my world is your world? Not my world is your world. Nothing has top dead inside me. Yeah, I know.
Oh yeah. Dead inside, and the resurgence of it with the poster in the background of that image. Whoever, I don't remember who sent that one. I don't remember either.
It might be CCW. He does a lot of them. Yeah? I felt like it was Epicurean smokes.
It might have been. Who knows? Hurtful. Hurtful.
And it had it in the background. And this, the attention to detail on that was just so incredible. Well, you can't, you know, you can't shoot the big, the big shot first, you know? I don't know what the hell you're talking about, you can't shoot the big shot.
Whenever you're doing a joke, you got to go low first and then you escalate, then you do better jokes and a better joke, then a better joke. You can't just go all the way, you can't go hard in the paint and then you have nothing left. I think it just kind of developed that way over time, it just happened, you know? I mean, how do you know when to throw the big one then?
I mean, if you drag it out long enough. It's just naturally aspirated. See, it's been six years. Maybe I should drop the big one that I've been saving ever since.
Think of it. It's like a comedian, right? Like Cat Williams. Like in the beginning, that guy went hard in the paint.
Now nobody's watching the guy, and he's mad about it. Well, I mean, that's just-- Oh, you gotta make more paint. Everything has kind of a cycle, you know? I mean, I could argue the same thing about Kevin Hart.
Kevin Hart was funny when he came out. His last comedy things were terrible. Yeah, no, I know. That's what I'm saying.
He went hard in the paint, now he's got nothing left. And now he's doing these movies I tried to watch 72 Hours yesterday. It was a little rough. Jeez, man.
I mean, but the real, you know, like a Robin Williams or a Eddie Murphy, like those guys spread it out. Okay, first of all, Robin Williams is probably in a league of his own. Eddie Murphy fell off, too, and he didn't want to be any part of it anymore. It's like, no, no, no, I'm, you know.
You mean like stand-up? Yeah. Yeah, but he transitioned into movies. That's kind of Rob Williams, too, you know, Rob Williams did the same thing, because he was in the beginning, stand-up, then went into TV show, and then movies.
Everybody falls off. Yeah, it's just a matter of time. Mm-hmm. No one stays on top forever.
There can only be one. What's that? There can only be one. There can only be one.
That's why I have these now, getting everybody mumbling and mumbling and mumbling. Yeah. With no static. With no static.
Maybe we can turn it up a little bit. It's so quiet in here. You're welcome. Oh, much better.
Oh, because, yeah, you do have to turn it on, so you should put it on. All right, moving into Cigar News. Here we go. New targets.
Ooh. The Creekside's launching the Queen of the West, a new cigar brand, and it's a great idea. We love Creekside Cigars. You better say it with some enthusiasm.
Yeah, why do you say it like this? We love Creekside Cigars. Because I'm going to tell you right now, I don't want to see the shit again. I don't need them coming after you.
Yeah. Creekside Cigar Company will become the latest cigar retailer to transition into also selling its own line of cigars nationwide. Hey. We are.
The Cincinnati-based retailer, known for its large presence on social media, has announced its new cigar brand, Queen of the West. Yeah. Its first release will be the Queen of the West, Beldoro, debuting in a single 6x48 Toro Vitola. Blend-wise, it uses an Ecuadorian-Connecticut seed Desflorado wrapper over a Connecticut Broadleaf binder and fillers from the Dominican Republic and Nicaragua.
Mm-hmm. Oh, and the United States. S. It is made at Tablica de la Isla in the Dominican Republic.
Creekside says that cigars will be available at around a dozen other stores on Monday, August 17th. Oh, I won't be here. Where are you going to be? I'll be in Nicaragua.
Nicaragua. For its part, Creekside won't start selling cigars at its shop until Friday, August 21st. Oh, I wonder where they got that idea. It's a great idea.
That's a great idea. Yes, it is. It's a very good idea. When the store has an event with Hostos Fernandez Quesada, the owner...
Hostos. Hostos. I like Hostos. Hostos?
Yeah, like Hostos Twinkies. Yeah. That's not the guy that makes the Twinkies? No, it's not the Twinkie guy.
I don't want to go to the event. I thought they were going to have Twinkies. You thought the Twinkies were going to be involved? Yep.
The owner of La Isla, the cigar is the evolution of Creekside, said Dave Ember, Creekside's owner in a press release. "We built the blend that brings real excitement both in flavor and in the experience around it. More than anything, this one is for our peoples, the ones who have supported our dream from the beginning. Queen of the West is one of Cincinnati's nicknames.
Creeksite says that this is the first of the three different Queen of the West core lines. They're coming out with three more, three total. Yeah. Nice.
Didn't say what they cost. I think I have the answer for that. Yeah, but just in case it's wrong, let's not give out any... You know, here's the thing.
The information is made to be correct. Like, this is their first press release, probably. Right. Right.
Sure. So, you wind up missing a couple things. Yeah, yeah. No, no, it happens.
Sure. But? Did you cover the portal story yesterday? What portal?
Our portal. No. It wasn't on there. I just sworn it was.
No, there's something about ladies or something that was in the highlights that didn't happen either. No, one of the cigar brands is giving a portion of their money to some organization. Oh, yeah, yeah, that happened. That gives money.
Ernie. It gives clothes to people. Yeah, Ernie. It was Ernie.
It was Ernie. The portal wasn't on there. No. No, you just had the press release.
What do you got? Well, I'll have it with me. Who entered the portal? Nobody.
Who entered the portal? Our portal. The story about our portal. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that.
Oh, yeah. Oh, all right, that was it. Oh, yeah, that lost her job portal. I read the comment from Corey Davis, who talked about it from the YouTube comments.
Oh, that was today. Oh, I didn't know that was in reference to that, because their shop is the one that used it. Yeah, Palmer, we're here, we love you. Yeah, we're losing them too.
I understand, but his boss used the portal the other day and placed an order. Yeah. I thought that's what he was talking about. No.
Oh. I mentioned it on the show, and he brought it up. Ah. All right.
Room 101, 17th anniversary, arrives at stores. It's another anniversary cigar. Smart. Every year, this one.
I like this one. Yeah. It's usually a great cigar. Except last year.
They didn't do one last year. He doesn't like 16. He did a 16. Hi.
You gonna tell her? She's hot. And hung up. Yep.
No, they did not do a 16th anniversary cigar. Earlier this week, the newest Room 101 began shipping to stores. Are we getting this? I don't know what's up with the sales rep.
Uh-oh. You know? You want me to call Matt right now? He'll call somebody.
Yeah. No? Oh, Matt Booth. I thought Matt was the rep's name.
I don't want you to call some random rep I hadn't heard of before. Call Matt Booth. He'll give us a good comment. Go ahead.
Go right to the main. We'd like the 17th and tell us a funny comment. Oh, yeah. We would like to have the 17th.
Yes. I thought you already had one. Like, how did you get one? Tell them to send three.
Sweeney? Sweeney's an 18? Oh yeah, it's time. Oh, I thought you said hello.
No. He's not answering. He's very busy. He's in an SDG meeting.
Can't hear the helicopters going. Hello, my fine specimen friend. It's me, Matt Booth. Telephone number.
Oh! Telephone number 24566. Okay. Booth.
I'll work on getting them. The Room 101 17th anniversary pays tribute to the brand's founding, which happened 17 years ago. That makes sense. Since 2019, the 10th anniversary, there's been a new limited edition release on a nearly an annual basis throughout the blend, though the blend is said to change each year.
So different cigars every year. I mean that would make sense too. He swears. Eh, who knows.
For the 17th or least, Room 101 has once again turned to AJ Fernandez. Only AJ. Only AJ. Oh, is he close to, he's gotta be, they're in the same town.
Oh, maybe we'll go there, I can see the reef and all these trucks. The reef? You won't be able to see the reef, but. I'm gonna ask to go.
Hey, can we go see the reef? I heard about your reef. Oh, you like my reef? Oh, the reef.
Only AJ have reef. Only AJ. I know, I wanna see it, it sounds great. Sounds amazing.
Sounds amazing. We'll go hang out on the beach? Come on. We'll drive one of your trucks down.
The result is a Nicaraguan Puro offered in a lone 6x52 Toro Vitola. Each anniversary cigar is a snapshot of where we are at the moment, said Matt Booth, Room 101 founder and a press release. They aren't meant to repeat themselves because neither do we. That's the whole point.
17 years in, we're still finding new places to go. Boots started Room 101 after serving in the Marine Corps is simultaneously both a jewelry brand known for heavy silver pieces and then there's some stuff and he worked for Camacho and Davidoff bought them and then he worked for Davidoff and then he started his own business. Yeah, then they broke up. Then they broke up, then he worked apparently for STG in general, Room 101 cigars.
They're still doing that now. Yeah. While their new Room 1 anniversary cigar last year was not a 16th anniversary, excuse me, Excuse me, instead, the brand released a special humidor that included both Toro and Cubalebra versions of the first six blends. Dope.
What? Sorry, dope. STG has not announced how many boxes were produced or what they're going to cost. Nobody's saying prices anymore.
You know, I haven't put a lighter to this thing. Wow, and it's still burning, huh? Look at this. Yeah, and the burn line looks great.
Am I talking too much? Maybe you want to comment? No, this is great. All right, you're doing fantastic.
Smoke away. way non-plugged just perfect burn line insane huh yeah more like a 91 huh like the original one he gave yeah right right very weird uh you know what else is weird tell me rocky patel is releasing their 250 coming in september 250 coming rocky patel america 250 coming in september ah with an o with an o yes not wow september no that's not what he's for see he got it hi we're doing a show if you would like to jump in and join us that'd be fun i have no idea what's going on and since 2020 a handful of companies have organized a multi-company nationwide selling event known as the traveling road show starting last week and running through what does this have to do with anything why is this part of that story oh the guy who put it in was a little no i just cut and I don't like to pre-read Half-Wheel because then I get surprised too and then the comments are more natural. Oh, you like the surprises? Yes, like this.
Well, surprise. Apparently, surprise, you have no idea what's going on. Well, the Traveling Roadshow, is this when they're releasing it? I don't know.
Rocky Patel's reps are offering a chance, oh, it is, you have to get it at the Roadshow. Traveling Roadshow only. Traveling Roadshow only. The Rocky Patel American 250 is a new 6x52 Toro that uses a Mexican San Andreas wrapper over a Nicaraguan binder, Nicaraguan Binder, and Nicaraguan Fillers.
While this is a new release, the cigars themselves were rolled early last year and have been aging at the Tabla Calera Villa Cuba SA Factory in Esteli, Nicaragua ever since Nish Patel, Executive Vice President of Rocky Patel, told Half Wheel that the American 250 cigar is a medium full with notes of dark chocolate, espresso, and a hint of spice. Oh, and floral flavors on the back end. It's just a hint. Just a hint.
Packaging delays have kept the release off the shelves, but the cigars are expected to ship. Oh, expected to, so they might not. We're saying September. We're saying September.
We may do 250 in 2027. The beginning of the story, we thought it was September. Now it's mid to late September. Yeah.
By the end of the story. So it's already been delayed a little since I started. In September. Maybe we should save it from next year and make 251 and just cross the, put a one.
Yeah, just repaint it. Oh, well, then they back to the box problem. Now it's 2028. They gotta scratch all the O's off, put ones on, it'll take forever.
Yeah, the 252nd year. 252nd. They should just plan on releasing it in 2028. There you go.
Cigars will be aged another two years. It'll be fine. Yeah, aged two years. That's right.
Everybody likes aged tobacco. Yeah. It's great. It's a perfection.
Right. All right, now it's time for the industry's favorite game. What's the score? You know, without the static, it's a lot louder.
Yeah. Can you predict the cigar score from Half Wheel's review before it's revealed? We'll give you clues. We'll make you guess.
As the review unfolds, the answers get closer. Or does it? The closest guess wins. " Dun, dun, dun.
Oh, now you do it. " Wow. Thank you for including that. You know what I mean?
He's never happy. He's never satisfied. I want more. I want perfection.
I want better. He wants more perfection better. Yes. You're doing great.
You're doing great. Thank you. You know, you yelled at him for the first half of the show because he didn't bring it yesterday. Now, all of a sudden, he's fine.
Ike and Tina, baby. Let's go. August 6, 2026, Charlie Minato's the reviewer. Which one?
Hold on. 2026, Charlie Minato. Hold on. There's another movie there.
Don't beat me. Don't beat me. Off. You go dot, dot, dot.
Off. Wow. Dominican Republic, Hiram and Solomon, limited edition review. It's the Hiram and Solomon Mystic Tie Dun dun dun Thank you 87 You think this is better than the Pustania?
No I don't I don't Everything now Every review Charlie does now Is compared to us Yeah Well you know I'm thinking Based on their scores of other cigars I'm going to go with 75 Hiram and Solomon Mystic Tie T-I-E Just so if that makes a difference. It's from the Dominican Republic. Factory is PDR Cigars. Wrappers from Ecuador, Connecticut Seed, and Mexican San Andres.
Binder, Indonesian Filler, Dominican Republic, and Paraguay. So is it like a barber pole? Didn't look like in the picture. How's a wrapper, Ecuador, Connecticut, and Mexican San Andres?
I don't know, maybe it is a barber pole. Doesn't say anything about it being a barber pole. I mean, those are two totally different locations. Well, maybe they put them on the cigar in the same place, though.
Oh, yeah? I think they, like, roll half here, and then they'll have way over there. Okay. Yeah, maybe they licked them together.
So it doesn't even make sense. Maybe it's two different cigars. Maybe they put a double wrapper. Yeah.
That sounds ridiculous. Well, it does sound ridiculous. 6x52, it's round, it's a $16 cigar, it just came out, and they smoked three. - 87.
- 75. - Clue number one, strong, earthy, and woody flavors with flashes of apple, creaminess, coconut, graham cracker, peanut butter, dark chocolate, and then some guy's leather jacket. - Some guys? James Dean?
- Well, it says leather, I assume. - 86. - No, not that, when they had the car wreck, they've got blood and stuff on it. - Yeah, a little extra, it's coppery.
- 86. - All those things together just don't sound good. Apple and Coconut, Graham Cracker, it's like a pie, peanut butter, dark chocolate, well then they go to the guy's leather jacket, 75, clue number two, the first third lasted well over an hour, and the cigar remained smooth when only minor burn corrections, the first third, yes lasted an hour, wow, sorry. 86.
It sounds horrific to smoke the first third for an hour. Maybe it was much faster than the other two thirds. It was too tight. It was too tight.
Yeah. Well, the double wrapper. Too much tobacco. Too much tobacco.
Burn slower when there's two of them fighting each other for the heat. Yeah, 75. Third and final clue. Despite being full flavored, the profile lacked meaningful transition.
meaningful transitions with earth and wood dominating and many of the more interesting flavors appearing only briefly they didn't even mention earth and wood in the original this is what it tastes like it's still going to rate higher than this matcha i want to see like a charlie-o-meter like he needs to incorporate in his reviews if he rubbed one out prior to yeah i need to know where his mind is yeah yeah you know and like charlie he would like to know Maybe like a time delay as to when it occurred, you know. How much time happened between when he rubbed it to when he reviewed the cigar? Yeah, previous ejaculation, and then it states the, like the… Maybe he's banking it to get his testosterone up. He's trying to, yeah, I wouldn't know, I didn't get to read the article.
Well, we can still do it next week. Yeah. Eighty-six. Seventy-five.
You're so quiet. Final thought. With one very notable exception, I generally find that the delta between how barber, oh it is a barber pole, how barber pole cigars look compared to non-barber poles in the way more impressive than the delta of how a barber pole tastes compared to the cigar with just one wrapper. What's the delta?
I don't know. Why do we get a delta involved? I don't know. I don't know.
What's that have to do with it? Are you on an airplane? The delta, the apex. Is it Delta Dawn?
Delta Dawn. What's that fabric you have on? Delta Dawn. That's a song.
Yeah. Is that from like the '40s or something? Probably. Yeah, it's like an old...
Oh, he's just singing on the way to school, dodging the arrows from the Indians. Don't sing it. My personal experience would be an indictment of the people who proclaim that the rapper provides most of the flavor of a cigar. If that were the case, a cigar like this should have a lot more flavor than what I was able to find.
I suppose it's possible and that the rappers are working in ways to cancel one another out. However, I suspect the theory about the wrapper being the dominant flavor provider is mostly incorrect and that the way things work is much more complicated. As for the Mystic Thai, I certainly remember it for its unique combustion pace, but I don't think I'll think much about how the cigar tasted. Unfortunately, this was yet another barber pole that I found to be way more interesting to look at than to smoke.
So he liked to look at it more than smoking. 79. 75. You went the wrong way.
80. Oh, they saved face. One better. Slightly worse than Postano Sumatra.
It's a celebration. All right, that's all I got. You have anything else to add, Phil? Yeah, we should smoke that cigar and then smoke the Sumatra and figure out which one's way better.
Well, ours is. It's one better. Well, I already know that. That's Patreon stuff right there, buddy.
Smoke 'em back to back. Yeah. Plus, we don't carry those. Yeah, we don't.
We should do an Unbanded review. I mean, I'll try to set that up for next week. Have you guys review an Unbanded cigar. That's kind of fun.
I like how they're, you know, Creekside does that. Oh, do they? Yeah. Gotcha.
Like, I would be okay with doing that on the show, like on the regular show from time to time. Okay. Yeah. Honestly, if you wanted to go pull three cigars and say...
Well, I'll know what it is. I'll pull two. Okay. Or we could have Steve play.
Yeah, that's fun. You could do it. You could do whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Like, that does look like fun. Okay. So, you know, I could smoke it and be like, oh. Yeah, and then Steve could come down and deliver what it is.
Well, you can just give it to us in an envelope and we'll open it at the end. Ooh. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
The results are in. Yeah. That was a lie. You could like plug it in, you could plug it in like mid-week when you have like a slower news day.
Oh, Wednesdays. Wednesdays are terrible. Yeah. All right.
There you go. Gives you something else to do. You know? Something different.
Little mixy, mixy, mixy. Little mixy, mixy. Yeah. Stir it up and give a little mixy, mixy.
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Show Notes
00:00 – Show Intro & Welcome Back
02:22 – CHPod Swag, Patreon & The New Retail Site
03:53 – YouTube Comments & Episode 600 Talk
17:42 – Tragic Giraffe Story & Terrence Riley
24:06 – 85-Year-Old Running a Cigar Shop From a Retirement Home Closet
29:59 – Man Leaves Wife for Luxury Escort… Then It Gets Deadly
33:21 – “Hobosexuals” — Dating for a Place to Live
43:14 – Cigar News: Creekside Launches Queen of the West
47:26 – Room101 17th Anniversary Arrives
51:48 – Rocky Patel America 250 Coming in September
54:37 – What’s The Score? — Hiram & Solomon Mystic Ties
1:01:15 – Blind Cigar Review Idea & Closing
The crew is back and the chaos comes fast! An 85-year-old gets busted running a secret cigar shop out of a retirement home closet, a jealous former luxury escort takes revenge to a whole new level, and we break down the rise of the “hobosexual.” Plus, Creekside launches its own cigar, Room101 celebrates 17 years, Rocky Patel has a new release on the way, and we finish things off with another round of What’s The Score?
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