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A Cigar Hustler Podcast Episode 376 - Starbucks goes simple, doge Pays Up and The New Cigar King

A Cigar Hustler Podcast Episode 376 - Starbucks goes simple, doge Pays Up and The New Cigar King

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Welcome to the Cigar Hustlers

podcast episode 376, where

cigars industry talk and

unfiltered opinions collide.

Sit back with your Co host Mike

Stepankevich and Mike Palmer as

they bring you this week's

trending stories at Cigar News.

And me, I'm Bootsy Engineer.

Make sure these two don't burn

the plays down.

Grab a cigar, sit back and let's

get into them.

That's it.

Cigar Houses podcast.

Now we're going.

This is new all.

Right.

So as you can see, there's been

an atmosphere change.

We are in the private lounge

today.

Yeah, trying to mix things up a

little bit, but go ahead.

And Mr. Palmer?

Well.

First, let's show these.

OK?

These were gifted to me at the

Island Gym event last week.

They were made by Bad Monkey.

His name is Greg, they are OOP.

I have.

What is this contraption?

These are more manly cigar poker

things.

Holders, holders, do you hold

the end of it?

And he made them for the

podcast.

So mine is a microphone.

Michaels is also a microphone.

And then on the top, he has the

crown because he is the king And

my, my little skull guy.

I don't know.

You probably can't see it on the

camera.

He has headphones on.

So we'd like to thank Greg for

these.

That was very nice of him.

I got to tell you man, there is

a ton of detail on this thing.

Yeah, it's pretty cool again.

I don't know, but like not

really a huge fan of somebody

giving me a sharp object with

you in striking distance.

Well, a little further apart

over here in this room.

Because I don't know, man.

He's a retired state trooper and

he makes these as a hobby,

right?

But he does have AI.

Just lost the card.

I dropped the card.

It was bad Monkey.

If you look at Bad Monkey on the

web or on Facebook web, on the

Internet, on the Internet, on

the interwebs, on the interwebs.

I don't know if he sells them or

not, but he does have them there

because his wife told him he had

too many.

So there you go.

They're very cool all.

Right.

Thank you so much, Greg.

Yes, thank you.

Appreciate that bro, what are we

doing for paycheon?

We are.

Hold yours up.

We are doing the Oliveros.

Can you see that Bootsy?

He a little bit.

It's blind.

It's Claire.

Dom it.

Yep.

There you go.

The Oliveros Grand or rotorno

#2.

They should be amazing.

Can't wait.

Look at the cello on these

things.

It's practically brownness.

They've been sitting for a long

time.

Sure, they will be delicious.

Oh, OK.

All right.

All right and trending news,

beloved Roberta Flack passed

away this week.

The singer of Killing Me Softly.

Is this before your age?

Do you know who she is?

I.

Don't know.

I thought you're just going to

review what we're talking about.

First, I am, but I'm just just

a.

Little, no, I have no idea how.

That all right, Starbucks is

trending with simpler, easier to

make drinks.

No more extensive fancy name

drinks.

OK, Washington Commanders has

released a defensive tackle.

Yes, AWNBA Star has decided that

she wants somebody else over

Drake and the Doge.

I put Dodge.

The Doge may be paying all of

his $5000 from the hidden

government treasures, but don't

spend the money yet.

Oh.

OK, let's get into that.

Well, the and cigar news.

Tell me.

Previews Raul Rainier is

starting his own brand.

World's most complicated initial

offering.

Davidoff likes a new coffee.

I mean a new cigar.

King Gurkha is getting fat.

Oh, Garo celebrates with a new

cigar.

Shipping.

Maybe shipping, They're not

sure.

The new Davidoff king makes a

New Castle bigger.

OK, Kentucky may get more cigar

lounges.

And then finally, a new

consultant shows you how to sell

cigars.

Michael.

Thank God.

You've been doing it wrong.

All these.

Years.

I believe it.

I believe it highly.

Qualified.

Oh, I can't wait.

Highly qualified.

OK, we also have on Patreon.

A new member has entered the

portal.

Yes, actually 2. 2.

I'm not sure if you're aware of

the other one.

OK.

All right.

One just happened yesterday.

Oh, I didn't hear about that one

yet.

I actually heard about it last

Thursday, but it was released

press release yesterday.

It's very interesting to see the

shake up in Q1 and where we got

another month left of this.

So there's more.

There could be more to come.

There'll be more to come.

All right, Today's World News.

Roberta Flack, Grammy winning

Killing Me Softly singer with an

with an intimate style.

Oh, she sings with an intimate

style.

Died at 88.

Roberta Flack, the Grammy

winning singer and pianist whose

intimate vocal and musical

styles made her one of the top

recording artist of the 70s.

When were you born again?

84.

An influential performer long

after died Monday, She was 88

years old.

She died at home surrounded by

her family, publicist Elaine

Stuck said in a statement.

Flack announced in 20/22 she had

ALS, commonly known as Lou

Gehrig's disease, and could no

longer sing.

Little known before her early

30s, Flack became an overnight

star after Clint Eastwood used

the first time Ever I Saw Your

Face as a soundtrack of one of

cinema's more memorable and

explicit love scenes between the

actor and you know, you know

what?

You probably have no Clint

Eastwood.

No, the actress that did the

love scene with very explicit

for the times, Jake Gyllenhaal.

I don't think he would have been

born at the time.

Donna Mills.

It is 1971 film Play Misty for

Me.

The hushed hymn like ballad with

flex graceful soprano afloat on

a bed of soft strings and piano

topped the Billboard pop chart

in 1972 and received a Grammy

for Record of the Year.

Oh, very interesting stuff.

We'll miss Miss Roberta.

Well, I know the song killing me

soft.

Killing me softly with his song,

Killing me soft.

That's all we can say when we

get in trouble.

Yeah, The Fugees redid it.

Oh, did they?

Yeah.

Oh, They have not released a

statement.

The Fugees did not release a

statement yet, no.

No, you think they would.

They used their song.

So but that song wasn't the hit

that.

That hers was.

That no, but killing me softly

came later.

What's he doing?

What's?

Wrong.

No, it's in.

Did you see the green light that

that's just the sleeve.

He's he's thinking he's had

technical problems.

At least he's holding things up

going.

Help me, help me, help me from

over there.

Yeah, I got to tell you though,

I really don't like not having

headphones.

It's been awkward.

Yeah, it's a little weird.

I didn't think it would look

good in here.

Oh yeah, we should totally do

it.

Still the same, you did a good

job.

All right, Starbunks, Starbunks.

Starbunks.

Starbunks.

That's all you got for the That

was Roberta.

That was Roberta.

Yeah, that was the news.

She had ALS.

She died.

She's 88.

And you know, that was the way

it.

Goes Are you going to miss her?

I am a fan of that song.

I didn't never, never saw her

live.

You never saw her live.

No, I was born in 67, so when

the song came out, I was three.

I was doing other things with

the time.

Got it.

You ain't familiar with the

song?

You haven't found your pee pee

yet?

No, at three, I'm sure I know.

Where it was found your pee pee

at 3:00.

Sure it was, yes.

OK.

That's.

A very quick potty trained.

Oh, you're a fast potty trainer?

Yes.

That's that's good news.

Well, when you have older

sibling, you're like, oh, this

is what you.

Know this is how you pee.

This is how you pee.

You peeing the thing over there?

Peeing the thing.

Peeing the thing, And then we go

to Starbucks.

Sure, Starbucks is overhauling

its menu if your favorite drink

is among the 13 to get 80

sixths.

I checked, Michael, you're safe.

There is no cold foam, Nitro,

whatever yadda yadda you.

Nitro cold brew.

Yeah, that's fine.

They're still doing that.

Yeah, you can't.

It's the simplest basic.

It's very simple.

That's the problem.

All their drinks are a little

complicated and the IT takes a

long time to be made I guess,

right.

So Starbucks drink menu is

getting an overhaul.

Next week, the coffee chain will

remove some of its less popular

hot, cold and blended drinks

starting March 4th in an effort

to speed up service and lighten

the load of baristas.

It's very complicated.

OK.

Is that it?

Is there a list?

No, there's a list.

I have more to talk about.

This is where we discuss.

I was waiting for you to go

through the whole thing and then

I could discuss.

That big orders with complicated

modifications have made it

difficult for baristas to keep

up, lending to two dissatisfied

leading sorry, dissatisfied

customers and a decline in

company sales, Bloomberg

reported.

Spot of our plan to get back to

Starbucks.

We're simplifying our menu to

focus on fewer, more popular

items executed with excellent,

Starbucks told today.com.

This will make way for

innovation, help reduce wait

times, improve quality,

consistency in a line with our

core identity as a coffee

company.

The decision is part of Chief

executive Officer Brian Nicole

Nicole overhaul goal to

streamline the company's

operation.

In a letter to employees Monday,

Nicole announced there will be

layoffs.

They don't need the complicated

people anymore.

For 1100 global corporate

employees, the layoffs won't

impact store baristas.

Oh, our intent is to operate

more efficiently, increase

accountability, reduce

complexity and drive better

integration.

Nicole said in the letter.

Which 13 drinks are getting cut

from the menu.

We have the list.

Oh boy, these are drinks being

86 along with they alternative

suggest we not we.

I cut the alternative out but

the iced matcha lemonade.

OK.

Espresso.

There's one that's like complete

bullshit that boots likes.

It's just like.

A the IJ.

The Apple thing is still there

though.

Thank God.

The heated apple.

Juice is still there, he just

gets hot apple juice.

Oh, thank God.

This is my coffee.

It's pretty funny.

Whenever we were on the road and

we're running around with him,

like, who wants coffee?

Like, who needs coffee, right?

First of all, when it's like all

of us except for Dum Dum, it

needs apple juice.

And he's like, yeah, I just want

my warm apple juice.

Anybody.

Heated apple juice.

I don't drink coffee.

Yeah, I guess that's.

You know what, dude?

Good for you.

I don't like I'm trying to drink

less of it.

Oh, not me, I'm bulking up.

Yeah, you need to.

Caffeine bulking season.

Life of the road warrior buddy.

The Iced Matcha Lemonade

Espresso Frappuccino and Cafe

Vanilla Frappuccino.

The White Chocolate Mocha

Frappuccino is gone.

The Java Chip Frappuccino is

gone.

What is a Frappuccino exactly?

Anybody.

Know it's like the frozen.

That the frozen part.

So I think there's a lot of

frozen things that are going.

We're eliminating the blender.

The Blender Java chip their.

Ice cream machine's broke.

Yeah, yeah, like McDonald's the

Kai Cream Frappuccino, Caramel

Ribbon Crunch, OK Cream

Frappuccino.

It's got a long ass name, Double

Chocolatey Chip Cream

Frappuccino, Chocolate Cookie

Crumble Cream Frappuccino and

White Chocolate Cream

Frappuccino.

So anything Frappuccino,

anything with cookies.

OK.

White hot chocolate.

Only the black hot chocolate.

Oh, thank God.

OK.

You don't like the white?

No, I like the black.

Is that the red or the white?

Royal English breakfast latte.

OK, never had that but it sounds

good.

It's gone now.

I'm never going to have it.

Honey almond milk flat white is

gone.

Damn, I don't think I've ever

ordered any of those.

That's for those healthy

drinkers.

Those are like the milk

Frappuccinos, like the milkshake

coffee things.

Yeah, actually they're trying to

streamline the customers also I.

Don't want the sugar?

Here's.

What's kind of happened with

Starbucks?

The last CEO, he went in an

interview, he talked about after

6:00, you you cannot get in

touch with me.

I'm done.

I'm spending family time.

It's over.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

And sales kind of plummeted,

right?

Because how that guy operated is

how everybody else operated.

Well, he's done.

I'm done, right.

I don't know in what world, like

if you contact me anytime past

6:00, we have, if it needs

correspondence, it gets

correspondence, right?

Sure.

And employees are approving

orders 24/7, you know if they're

there or whatever, right?

And we're constantly doing that,

right.

So if you, if I have the

mentality of hey, I'm not.

Yeah.

No Saturdays, no Sundays, 6:00

I'm done.

Right, it's over.

I walk out that door and I said

I'm finished.

Sales would plummet like things

wouldn't be done, people work

would get piled up on people and

eventually those are your hard

work, 'cause they eventually

say, hey, screw this, I'm not

doing this anymore.

And you just kind of right.

So that guy, he torpedoed

Starbucks right now, the guy

that came in, I think that

that's the Chipotle guy.

Brian, Nicole.

Oh, is it?

Yeah, So what he's doing is he's

just trying to streamline things

and make it more.

Efficient and make it more

efficient.

Which makes sense.

He's also pledged to improve the

customer experience by getting

back to the company's coffee

house roots and making stores

feel cozier with handwritten

notes on cups and ceramic mugs

for two stay orders.

If he could get them to clean,

that'd be good too.

They're usually by the end of

the day.

They're usually pretty rough

looking.

Yeah, well, you know, they went

hard in the paint when it came

to like, no smoking or anything

outside or anything like that,

right.

You know, I think that's a

mistake.

There should be a Starbucks

cigar lounge.

You can't smoke outside of a.

Starbucks.

No, you cannot really.

Not generally speaking, no.

I guess it depends on who's

working if they tell you to put

it out or not.

Well, that's one of the rules.

I mean, you know, I can't

imagine some Teeny Bob routine

coming up and say Sir, Sir.

Making a Frappuccino comes

outside.

Yeah, he can't be bothered.

No.

Well.

They're making less Frappuccinos

now, so maybe they have more.

Time.

Oh, maybe it frees them up and

down to harass you outside for

smoking.

Commanders are letting go a

defensive tackle Jonathan Allen

because he's seeking to be

traded.

The Washington Commanders have

granted defensive tackle

Jonathan Allen permission to

seek a trade, a source confirmed

amid multiple reports signaling

an end to their eight-year

relationship.

Allen A2 time Pro Bowler hit a

OH, hit a cap of $22.3 million.

Washington would save 16.3

million in cap space whether he

is traded or at least before

June 1st.

Seattle has inquired about Allen

before the 2023 trade deadline,

according to multiple sources,

but with a new coaching staff,

it's uncertain if the Seahawks

would remain interested.

Plus they got to pay him $22.3

million.

Yeah.

I mean, the question is, do you

think he's worth it?

You know, eight years in, he

might be getting a little long

in the.

Tooth.

Oh, defensive.

Technically, yeah, he'd been hit

quite a few times.

He'd been hit quite He's usually

the guy doing the hitting.

Well, he still gets hit too.

Impact.

We're pushed.

Yeah, what do you know about

Allen boots?

Not much, I mean not a a huge

name really on that team.

The the more bigger names is you

know, was Chase and the other

guy on the other side?

Jane Daniels.

Yeah.

So I mean.

He makes a base salary of 15.5

million and he's not one of the

big names?

No.

Is that low paying?

Someone fucked up on the pay

scale.

Yeah, I'm shame.

I mean, if you I go sit the

bench for $15 million.

If the guy's A2 time Pro Bowler,

right?

I mean, he's got to be good at

what he does.

Sure.

Realistically, you don't hear a

lot about the defensive players.

No, you don't.

There's probably 3 or 4 that

really people know about that

aren't entrenched in the NFL,

right?

But you know, hey, whatever,

wishing the best.

I think what's really even

funnier though, is something

that you're not covering is the

fact that the Packers are trying

to get the tush push eliminated.

Oh, that was the unidentified

team.

What is the tush push?

So the tush push, yeah, the

unidentified team is the

Greenwood Packers.

So the tush push is the

quarterback lines up and the

running back is behind him and

and then what happens is 2

people push him through the

offensive line to score.

The only team that's really

successfully mastered that is

the Philadelphia Eagles.

Everybody else who's tried it

does a shit job of it.

So.

So now they're trying to get it

eliminated, which I think is

absolutely ridiculous.

It's stupid.

Yeah.

Just learn how to stop it.

I mean, I've seen it be stopped

before, right?

Well, the problem is the center

cuts underneath.

OK.

So actually cutting, cut,

blocking is illegal.

OK, I guess if it can be seen, I

don't know.

Yeah, that's the problem.

It can't be seen.

Cause yeah, they can't see it

when he's doing it because

people are pushing somebody over

the top of him.

Oh, is that that your analytics

from that?

Yes, that's your analysis.

There he goes.

Well, he saw it a lot in the

Super Bowl, remember?

Yeah, in the blowout to your

boys Kansas City Chiefs, I.

Don't follow my wife's team.

Yeah, now, now you're not

interested in that.

No, not.

My team, no trouble.

It's a base salary of 15.5

million, though none of it is

guaranteed.

Oh.

Well, that sucks.

Yeah, that's we're going to pay

you 15.5, but maybe not.

Well, he's been paid before and

it's probably, you know, you

can't get injured.

There's I don't know.

I guess it's the next part then.

Allen, 30, missed 9 games this

season with an injury.

There you go.

Torn pectoral muscle that was

initially said to be season

ending, but during surgery

doctors discovered the tear was

not as severe as feared,

allowing him to work back into

the lineup.

Allen played in the final two

regular season games as well as

three post season contest.

He finished with three sacks, 3

tackles for a loss of seven

quarterback hits.

In eight seasons with

Washington, he has recorded 42

sacks and 108 starts.

That's pretty good.

Is that good?

So yeah, that is pretty good.

So he's probably looking just to

get a solidified check.

Yeah, he wants to get into a

deal somewhere.

Yeah, 'cause when you start

getting injured and you start

getting sidelined.

And he's older.

Yeah, defensive.

Those injuries don't go away.

No, yeah, he's going to be in so

much pain later, if he's not

already.

He'll be rich in it, babe.

That's true.

I guess you can afford the pain.

WNBA star Cameron Brink says

Kendrick Lamar saw a clip of her

choosing him over Drake.

WNBA star Cameron Brink probably

never thought an answer to a red

carpet question would eventually

produce the highlight of her

life.

Brink, along with other WNBA

future stars, was asked by by

Complex last April to choose

between Kendrick Lamar and Drake

as the WNBA draft, and the

Stanford alum was the only one

to stand out among the players

and give K dot the nod over

dizzy.

Which one's K dot Kendrick

Kendrick OK and Dizzy is

Kendrick Drake.

Why could I have to give them

weird names?

It's.

Just a.

It's just a.

Nickname.

So apparently she was the only

one on the red carpet that

picked the one guy over the

other guy.

Well, look, I mean.

Else went the other way.

That's what's always been kind

of fun of me, like if people, a

lot of people picked apart the

halftime show and all these

other things.

I thought that Kendrick

delivered exactly what he was

supposed to deliver and.

Oh, that was a halftime.

You're right.

Yeah.

I I think for sure he's a better

artist than Drake.

Does Drake have more hits?

Sure, whatever.

But reality is, if some of those

rumors are allegedly true, I

wouldn't want to be endorsing

Drake, that's for damn sure.

I think this was Palmer.

You, you, you do know that this

was a beef?

This is a what?

There's a song that Kendrick

Lamar, that.

Is well, yeah, I've heard that

from the Super Bowl.

That song was about the other

guy or something.

But this is just some

interviewer went hey pick one

that you like the best or 1 you

want to date or whatever the

hell it was.

Super controversial, right?

Well, one, allegedly, you know

right?

Which one?

The what?

Drake.

That's the guy that was the dog

fighter guy, wasn't he allegedly

dog?

Fighter.

That's Michael Vick.

Yeah, Oh, Michael Vick, that's

a.

Totally different sport.

This is a rap artist.

I don't know, they have weird.

They all have.

Maybe he has a.

Dog fighter.

That's the dog.

The dog fighter.

Oh my God.

Maybe he has dogs, I don't know.

He might have dogs.

He's got a cat.

Go back to Roberta Flack.

I know who she is, OK.

She's so.

Weird.

Does she have dogs?

No, she didn't.

She had no service dog.

She had ALS.

Don't make fun of her.

Cam explained that on a recent

episode of her Straight to Cam

podcast, she was approached by

an alleged Did Lamar associate

at the USC and Notre Dame

women's basketball game in

November, who revealed that

Kendrick saw the clip and gave

Brink her flowers as a Hooper,

claiming to be a fan himself.

There you go, Attaboy.

That makes sense.

Is a.

Hooper, someone who plays magic

ball.

Yes, that's what it is.

OK.

Just making sure, yeah.

It's WNBA Hooper.

Oh, that's what they just call

women players, Yeah.

They just call it.

The hoop bet.

Yeah, the hoop bets.

Could a $5000 DOGE stimulus

check really be happening?

Probably.

Not I hope.

We all hope.

The idea of $5000 refunds from

the ongoing drive to reduce

federal spending has been

floated, but don't add that

bonus to your account just yet.

That's because DOGE, the

Department of Government

Efficiency, ideally must meet

its 2 trillion savings goal to

make the kickback feasible.

Any refund that much?

Ready.

Didn't he?

What?

Didn't he just find No.

Is he in the billions now?

Is one of.

Those he's, I think he's still

in the billions.

In the billions.

He's getting close I'm sure,

though he's.

Getting close.

He just needs one more

government agency.

Oh, look, it's all Eclipse very

quickly when he says, OK, we're

going to take a look at the

Pentagon.

And they're not letting him in

there.

Oh, oh, they sure are.

Oh, did you hear that our

Governor DeSantis of Florida is

doing a Florida Doge?

Yes, and he's contemplating

removing property taxes.

I don't own any property.

I'm OK with that.

Most of the property taxes don't

get paid down here anyways.

What are you talking about this?

Is one of the biggest states for

veterans that there is for

disabled veterans.

OK, but I pay property taxes.

Well, I'm just saying most of

the property taxes.

Get a couple of goats in a cow

on your property and say you're

agricultural and there's no

property taxes.

Farmland.

There's farmland.

Yeah, it's fine.

Yeah, dog.

Big dogs.

Have them chase goats around

your yard.

Yeah, but that's a stuffed

animal in your yard.

It's still a cow.

It's still a cow kickback

feasible and the accomplishment

is something even Elon Musk, the

unofficial leader of Doge, said.

Maybe.

How is he unofficial?

Isn't he in charge?

I don't know how all that works.

Don't you have to get like

elected or something?

This is a whole no.

No, you don't have to get

elected to be in charge of

government agency, but I do

think you have to be whatever

approved or whatever it's called

that they've had everybody been

doing lately.

OK.

Yeah, no, I don't think he's

been approved or anything like

that.

This is a new, this is a new

thing.

This is a new thing.

I'm just in charge.

Yeah, I'm in charge.

How much?

How much we got to pay you?

Yeah.

You don't have to pay me.

I got enough.

I got 400, Billy.

What are you going to pay me?

You have to pay me the 5000.

Let's see, the unofficial leader

said.

It may not be doable back in

January.

Still, President Trump on

Wednesday said the

administration is considering

giving 20% of DODE savings to

citizens.

His comments make His comments

come a day after Musk said he

would confer with Trump about

the idea.

We'll talk about it.

No, no, we're doing it.

It's fine.

It's a great idea.

I love it.

It's a huge.

Idea.

It's a huge idea.

It's my idea.

It's the best idea I've had

today.

It's a good idea.

It's.

A fantastic idea.

Even if the idea of $5000

stimulus checks involves

Congress would need to approve a

dispersal of funds for

taxpayers, that's where the

problem is.

Oh yeah, Why?

Don't they do it like the last

one just drops in your bank

account?

It just shows up one day in your

bank, right?

Hey, on the cigar news, Michael.

Oh, on.

What about the booty?

You got one over there, buddy.

Hey, go to switch and make sure

you're on Palmer.

I'm on Palmer.

Oh, so he can, you know, do

stuff he's not supposed to?

Do do, do do do do do do.

Here we go.

Oh yeah, there's no music.

Now I got to program another

board.

All right, Hooters is getting

ready to file bankruptcy,

according to Bloomberg report.

Aw, no more chicken wings.

The casual dining franchise is

working with creditors on a plan

to restructure its operations.

No more chicken wings, Hooters

is.

Taking stage directions again.

The Hooters is working with the

Ropes and Gray Law Firm to

assist with the filing process.

The company has not made a final

decision on seeking Chapter 11

protection, but a filing could

take place in the next two

months, according to Bloomberg.

The Atlanta based sports bar

chain showed her dozens of

underperforming.

You can speak up.

Oh, it says quieter.

They can hear him on the

microphone.

We just can't hear him over

here.

Oh.

We had headphones.

June 2024, Hooters joined a

growing list of eateries.

Not the whole thing, just that

one statement.

Oh, just the one.

Just the one stage during.

I was in paragraphs here.

Hooters joined a growing list of

eateries that face the harsh

realities of inflation and

changing consumer habits.

Since 2018, Hooters has seen a

12% decline in the number of

restaurants.

Oh no.

Starting with 333 at the end of

the year and the finishing with

293 in 2023, the publication

reported.

I'm sorry.

Come on, keep going.

Based on data from restaurant

consulting firms should almost

be done.

Technomic first Golden Corral

now Hooters.

We saw a Golden Corral still

open in Fort Pierce.

We.

Were going to stop in and take

pictures of it and stuff.

But it looked too nasty on the

outside to go in.

Yeah, yeah.

We're not doing it.

We're not going in there.

The inside's great.

You guys could have had carved

steak and.

Mia Vanna is launching cigars by

R&R Raul right here.

You don't want to talk about how

detrimental that's going to be

for boots.

Yeah, OK.

Oh, you want to talk more about

it?

It's.

Horrible.

It's horrible.

The food there's really not that

good.

I'm not surprised.

No, it's terrible.

The food is terrible, Yeah.

The food there's terrible, yeah.

I remember when we went to

Golden Corral because there was

no other options.

I don't even remember where we

were where we were either.

Yeah, but.

Oh, it was after Greg's of the

bachelor party.

Oh yeah, we hated.

For breakfast on the way out of

Kissimmee.

Yes, man, was he excited.

He was so excited, he was, and

they knew him when he walked in.

Yeah, they're like.

He's like the mayor of Golden

Corral town.

Where you been?

He busted out his gold member

card.

Right.

Flashing around.

Yeah, it's insane.

They gave him two plates.

Yeah, you know, you take this

extra one with you.

Yeah, you don't know.

No worries, argue Bag.

Get your waffle.

He knows the the secret menu at

Golden.

Corral and the chocolate

fountain.

Yes, the chocolate fountain.

Yes.

All right, let's get into some

cigar news.

All right, Cigars by R&R roll.

Rainier, who owns the ME Havana

factory in essarily Nicaragua,

will be offering his own brand.

Next month.

Rainier will launch Cigars by

R&R Very Very Good, debuting 9

different blends, 99 in an

initial offering.

OK.

The 9 blends are divided into

three different brands, each

brand offered in three different

blends and each blend offered in

three vitolas.

OK.

There's a lot going on here.

This man's cigars.

It's going to be Toro.

It's going to be Toro, Robusto

and Gordo.

I believe that is it.

They are scheduled to ship

during the first week of March.

Grand Corona is described as the

strongest of the offerings,

listed as a full.

Listed as full, all three blends

use a binder from OMA, Tempe,

Nicaragua over a blend of

Nicaraguan fillers.

The three wrapper options are

Grand Corona Connecticut

Broadleaf by R&R, Grand Corona

Habana Escuro by R&R, Grand

Corona Mexican by R&R.

So only three blends?

3 wrappers.

The opposite end of the

spectrum.

This is.

This is just for that one brand.

There's three brands.

Each brand has three wrappers.

Each wrapper has three sizes.

The rule of three.

Rule of three, alright.

The opposite of the spectrum is

Pax Romano Romana Romana ROMANA

Romana described as mild medium.

Unlike Grand Corona, the blends

vary a lot more.

Pax Romana Connecticut by R&R

The Connecticut Seed Binders

Mexican San Andreas fillers

Dominican Republic, Nicaragua

Pax Roma Habano by R&R with

Ecuador and Habano Claro rapper

Binders Nicaraguan Condega

fillers Dominican Republic in

Nicaragua.

Pax Romana Mexican by R&R rapper

Mexican San Andreas Nicaragua

Binders Nicaraguan Halapa Filler

is Dominican Republic in

Nicaragua.

That's a lot.

That's a lot.

There's one more.

You're kidding me.

No, there's only two.

There's three.

Oh my God.

You want to skip?

No.

Yeah.

It sounds like guys making a lot

of cigars.

Making a lot of cigars a.

Lot of cigars.

Did you leave the last one for

the?

Is it the best one for last?

No, actually, no.

So to kind of elaborate, so

Postonia has 1234 core sizes or

core blends, right?

One of them we're not even

producing anymore.

So we essentially have three,

and we've been doing it for a

decade, right?

And this guy's banging out nine.

How do you know what's going to

work and what's not?

Well, not going to work.

He owns his own factory, he

doesn't carries all this extra

tobacco.

But he's not his own grower.

He doesn't have his own farms.

This just is Luciano's behind

all this.

He also claims to be the record

holder for the world's longest

cigar, which rolled in Pompano,

California, where there also is

a members only lounge called MI

Havana.

Oh, OK.

So he not only makes the biggest

offering, but he makes the

longest do.

You think he's miking that right

next to the He's torching right

next to the mic.

No, he's not.

He's burning the window.

OK.

Emmanuel Usolini named head of

Davidoff of Geneva.

Mussolini.

Usolini.

Usolini.

UCCELLINI Usolini.

Not quite Mussolini.

It was.

It was close though.

No M.

It's very close, very close, the

distant cousin.

Went through Ellis Island,

remove the M.

Davidoff AG has announced that

Emmanuel has been named as

general manager and president of

Davidoff of Geneva USA.

According to a press release,

Yusolini's last position was the

business unit director of

Lavazza Group, the Italian

coffee company, where he was

responsible for the

distribution, markets and

business in the American region.

So he's from Italy?

Team axis was what you're

saying?

Yes, I have tremendous

confidence that with his

experience and his innovative,

innovative, innovative and

dynamic mindset, Emmanuel will

accelerate our business into the

challenging U.S. market and take

it to the next level, said Beat

Houston, CEO of Ottinger

Davidoff in a press release.

Emmanuel has proven track record

of developing successful channel

strategies.

We are based on win win

propositions and understand the

importance of value of

relationships built on trust and

accountability.

Because you know, if you like

coffee, you also like cigars.

Yeah.

You know, it's kind of weird

you're seeing this happened in

more than one scenario.

I mean, like Bravado's now

pushing tremendous amounts of

coffee.

I don't know what's going on

there.

A lot of I mean, Kathy's always

made coffee.

He's not it.

There's.

Where do you realistically, how

do you grab a guy that's not in

this industry where you think

that there's some things that

would work right, Like there's

some some particular systems?

Go ahead, Boots.

Well, pairings is like a big

thing Now you know that's that's

become like a big.

Thing, yeah, but that's all

bullshit.

I don't, yeah.

I do, I think I don't drink

coffee.

Yeah.

I don't buy that for a second.

I just don't know, you know, I

mean, what systems did he put in

play where we are, where they

think that Davilov thinks that

that's advantageous to acquire

him?

Well, they're going to put

cigars in all bags now.

Oh, they're.

Going to go in a bag.

Like coffee bags?

Yeah.

Oh.

OK.

And it's going to be tight, yes,

like a sealed a little.

Breathe, hole on it where they

suck all the air out, Right.

Yeah, they're going to do that

now.

Oh.

That's what they're doing.

That's a great idea.

And the cigars are going to be

we drank, not smoked.

We're going to drink them now.

Yes, we're going to drink them.

We're going to mash them into a

liquid.

Right.

Do they paint those or spray

those?

Or do they paint them?

Do they paint those?

Like a coffee bean, you think

maybe they're doing this to try

to because sales are down or

numbers are down or whatever.

You think maybe they're trying

to do this to fill fill that

void?

And the solution to sales down

is hire a coffee guy.

Well, I mean, you know.

It's fresh blood, I guess.

Yeah, it's kind of to be

determined if the guy's going to

do his job or not.

But, you know, which is kind of

interesting.

We kind of monitor that.

But I think the reality is as

far as the cigar industry is

concerned, pretty much any

industry is concerned as far as

retail consumption.

You had to continue to press

forward throughout the entire

year.

You had to make these limited

runs and all these other things.

I don't know what's going on

behind me.

It makes me nervous when the

engineer gets up and walks away

from the table.

I thought something was wrong,

but you just needed an ashtray.

So you saw a major push with a

lot of these bigger brands of

more limited stuff and that

dropped faster and harder and

they had more inventory of those

things.

And I really think that they're

trying to boost up sales.

So Davidoff does have a fair

share of that, but they didn't

have an astronomical amount of

it.

So I would assume that 2024

didn't perform the year that

they wanted to and they're

probably trying to shake things

up.

That would make sense.

Well, they lost the guy a little

while ago.

The guy quit the guy that who

was in charge?

OK, so did he go somewhere else?

I forget what happened to.

Him.

I mean, generally speaking, if

you quit.

I don't know if he quit or got

fired, I don't remember.

Yeah, I would assume, I would

assume that the writing was on

the wall, you know, like you

can't fire me, I quit or hey,

it's probably this isn't working

out, you know, it's probably

best be part ways or whatever

the case may be, you know.

Oh, here we go.

Emmanuel succeeds Dylan Austin,

whose tenure ended last May Zach

Medwin and Alana Frazier have

been sharing the leadership

duties in the interim, and

neither of them are pissed off

that they didn't get the job.

They agree that a coffee guy was

the best choice, even if both of

them are more cigar inclined,

and they will return to their

positions as head of sales while

Frazier will remain head of

marketing and retail.

Emmanuel will begin his new role

on March 3rd.

His new role as Lightning Rod

to.

Take to the other two people

that apparently weren't

qualified to run the cigar

business.

Sounds like there was a smart

tactic on their behalf.

Like hey, you know what?

No, give him the head position.

Oh it didn't work.

Oh God.

I guess he's out all right.

Gurkha is releasing the Fat Boy.

Gurkha, the company that likes

to sue people for using their

name, has begun shipping a new

cigar line that is called Fat

Boy, has nothing to do with BBQ

or motorcycles, and is the name

would suggest.

The line is made-up of a large

ring gauge vitola.

The blend features a Habano

wrapper over an undisclosed

origin.

Oh, a wrapper of undisclosed

origin over an undisclosed

binder and filler.

The line is offered in three

sizes.

Because they really don't know

where they got the tobacco

either.

Girk of Fat Boy is a 4 by 60, a

box of 20, Girk of Fat Boy 5 by

56, Girk of Fat Boy 6 by 66.

The Girk of Fat Boy is a

wonderful addition to our

portfolio, said Jim Colucci,

president of Girk of Cigars.

So the other guy just sort of

has disappeared.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's much.

It's much easier for him to just

go away after the backlash.

I mean, OK, so so he has his

backlash on social media, right?

And he pulls out, right?

If you're out of the limelight

and the brand's still working,

why would you go back into the

limelight?

That was the next question.

You think he's still financially

connected to the company?

I would think that 100% he's

still attached to the company.

This is my guess, but yeah.

Let's see Jim Colucci, president

of Gurkha Cigar, and a press

release.

Customers have been requesting a

return of the larger ring gauges

we used to carry and we thought

that the Fat Boy is a perfect

way to bring them back without

copying anybody else.

Kirk is having the Fat Boy Line

produced at an undisclosed

factory because again, they.

It's undisclosed.

They don't know what they got.

They don't know what they've got

or where they got it.

They have no idea.

They just showed up.

It's in Nicaragua somewhere.

It's in a third world country.

So I'm not saying the rapper

binder and filler and not word

of where it's made, but we are

very sure it's a cigar and they

came up with the name on their

own.

It's going to be, well, you

know, what was the think tank to

come up with Fat Boy?

I mean, you know, right, What is

kind of funny is I've been in

this injury 15 years.

You've been in this injury for

about 10, right?

I think what's really kind of

remarkable is you see these

cycles of these things that

happen over and over again.

It's the same thing, same

scenario.

So when you start to see this

impact of this draw like an

economy is kind of tightening,

people will look for bigger

cigars interpreting that as

value, right?

So you're starting to see that

swing again where the 60 ring

gauges.

Yeah, people have been asking.

Are coming back into that.

Do you guys have a larger

ringgage you got?

Any 60s you got any 60s So makes

sense.

If it's smart, it's it's a smart

sales tactic.

Sure.

I don't really like a lot of 60

ringgage cigars.

I don't think a lot of them are.

Good.

I don't like them.

They're too big.

I have a small mouth I don't

like not.

Only that, but a lot of the

flavor profiles are dull.

Well, that's true, yeah.

It's supposed to be more

tobacco, more flavor, right?

No, that's Aromacraft.

Less was it More tobacco, more

flavor?

Yeah, but they're the only one

who can claim that.

Yeah, but even, you know, some

of their bigger cigars that they

made in the past.

I, I, I would, I, you know what

that's, I kind of take that back

because like the brotherly

kindness is a big one.

It's like a 58 I think, or 56.

That's pretty good.

But more often than not, I'm not

gravitating towards that as a

consumer, No, I think that

there's better flavor profiles

than Corona Gordas.

And that's what happens.

You're going to see the 660 come

out and people are going to be

producing that, and then all of

a sudden, 4-5 years from now

you'll see that the Corona

Gordas are a bigger hit.

Right, something will cycle back

through.

Again, you know what?

This tastes better.

And it's like, OK, yeah, so you.

Don't want that big one anymore.

Right, this is ridiculous.

My mouth hurts, right?

Garo to celebrate 30th

anniversary with a noon line.

Debuting at PCA 2025.

This year marks a 30th

anniversary of Doctor Garo

Bouldakine.

What's his last name?

Bouldakine.

Bouldakine.

BOULDAKIAN.

Bouldakine sounds German or some

type of European.

German or some type of European?

Starting his boutique cigar

company, which originally named

Garo GARO Habano Fine Cigars.

To mark the occasion, he is

releasing a new limited edition

of the 2025 at the 2025 PCA

Convention and Trade show in

mid-april to markets 3 decades

in business, the company

selected a blend that features

an Ecuadoran Habano Carmelita

wrapper.

Oh, what is Carmelita wrapper?

No idea.

Carmel.

This is the second week in a row

we've had these weird names

attached to tobaccos.

Look, is it Carmel in color?

Probably.

It's probably a feminine type of

leaf.

Why would you think it's

feminine Lita Lita?

Carmelita.

Well, they couldn't say Carmelo

because that would be obviously

Carmel.

Carmelo.

Carmelo.

Carmelo The.

Candy bar.

That's that's an interesting

take on things.

An Indonesian binder and a

filler blend that includes the

Pennsylvania leaves, Dominican

Piloto, Cubano and tobaccos from

Nicaragua.

The company calls it medium to

full body with a sophisticated

profile that unfolds in distinct

phases, delivering unique

century journey from start to

finish.

The Garo 30th anniversary being

offered in three sizes, each

offered in a 25 count box.

Like I guess on the sizes

Michael, you'll never get.

These 3 sizes, Yes, Toro.

OK.

They this has numbers and it's

not numbers I'm familiar with.

So I don't think it is a Toro.

Probably it has numbers you're

not familiar.

With 7 by 47.

It's like Churchill. 30th

anniversary, 430th anniversary

is it four and three quarter by

52.

What's a robust though?

So it's almost a robust though.

And the Garo 30th Anniversary, 5

1/2 by 42. 5 1/2 by 42.

Yeah, Corolla Gorda.

That's more of Corona Gorda

esque.

Right, but these aren't your

standard yeah sizes.

So they were just off a little

bit when they measured them.

Yeah, somebody's measurements

were off at the factory.

That one guy must work there

now.

Is it the inside measurement?

Of the Toro I said 6 by 52, not

7 and by 40. 77 by 47, it'd be

good.

OK.

The Garo 30th anniversary is

scheduled to begin shipping

approximately 1 to two weeks, or

maybe 3 or 4 weeks.

Well, sometime in the spring,

but maybe the fall, we're not

sure.

After the PCA convention and

trade show, which runs from

April 4th, 11th to the 14th in

New Orleans.

Garo's Cigars distributed by SZ.

Wholesale SZ.

This is.

I figured it was not meant to be

said.

Well, well, that's pretty

interesting to make those cigars

in those particular sizes.

I wonder why they decided to do.

That I think somebody messed up.

I think they had old.

Molds or something and you know

when they put them together.

And like, this is what we got.

This is what we got.

You know, we've been around 30

years.

That's the way they used to make

them.

I mean, those are great.

I mean, it's yeah, they're a

little different, but those are

the the good sizes, you know,

Corona, Gorda, Toro.

But it's almost Corona Gorda,

it's almost Churchill.

It's almost a Toro.

Yeah, maybe the guy's got to

wear gag reflex or something.

Davidov expands Dominican

factory to double production

capacity.

Oh. 1200 employees with a new

highway access and larger

cafeteria.

More sandwiches.

More sandwiches and a related

story.

Luciano Marialis has released a

press statement saying that his

imaginary factory is expanding

to threefold. 12101 employees, 2

cafeterias and a video arcade,

and a life-size statue of

himself taking a wallet out of

basketball players pocket.

OK, probably not true about the

about the statue.

Oh, probably that'd be.

Seriously, for him to admit that

on public forum?

Probably not true about any of

it, but.

Yeah, maybe.

Yeah, it's all the right.

I don't.

Know it's all legend it's.

All legend Kentucky House passes

Cigar bar cigar Cigar bar bill

sends to Senate On Tuesday, the

Kentucky House of

Representatives approved House

Bill 211, which would allow for

the creation of cigar bars in

the state.

After a pair of floor amendments

were made, the bill passed by

Oh, I'm seeing that.

I'm seeing something moving.

The TV is driving me crazy.

The bill passed by 74 to 19

vote.

One of the amendments which

allow local government to permit

cigar bars without the

requirement of a liquor license.

While the other reworks a

requirement that cigar bars must

provide a smoke free area for

delivery so that the businesses

that are letter already in

operation won't be forced to

remodel their space to comply

with the law.

So it's just smoke free

deliveries?

Seems odd.

I'm not understanding that.

Yeah, so that means it.

So there has to be an A section

where somebody drops off

packages and it they don't have

to access be around smoke,

correct.

That's the craziest.

Thing I've ever.

So is there no, there's no cigar

bars in Kentucky, period.

I don't know.

It's one of the, it's, you know,

there was more regulation in

Kentucky for a long time.

And it sounds like they're

starting to walk some of that

back, which is good for

Kentucky.

The harder part here, Look, if I

drive on the highway right, and

there are diesel trucks that

emit smoke and my windows are

down, am I supposed to say to

them?

Well in Kentucky there are smoke

free roads.

They're smoke free roads.

Yes, in Kentucky it's completely

smoke free.

Driving to eliminate smoke free

only electric cars.

Only electric cars.

Because all cars give off some

type of smoke of some.

Kind some type of emissions or

something?

Yeah, it's emissions.

That's the word, right?

OK.

So they're worse than

California?

Just for smoke.

Just for.

They just had a problem with

smoke in Kentucky, Yeah.

Right.

No smog here.

No coal mines or anything like

that.

But those don't smoke.

They don't smoke.

No, just when they collapse.

If those catch on fire, it's a

problem.

Yeah.

Coal will burn.

I heard that they said they only

collapse.

It'll still require new bills to

comply with the requirement.

The bill still requires cigar

bars to meet the number of

requirements, including that

they must make at least 15% of

its profit from the sales of

cigars, pipes and related

accessories and the rental of

humidors.

Additionally, it must be limited

to persons at least 21 years of

age must have signage indicating

there is smoking allowed inside

and there.

So we got to put up a sign that

says you can smoke.

You can smoke here.

Except in the back where we take

packages, no smoke.

Except in the delivery section.

Well, yeah, I mean, everybody's

been beat there for years for

smoking so.

Be smoke free delivery section.

And additionally, if a cigar bar

shares a physical wall or common

and oh, this must be good.

Additionally, if a cigar bar

shares a physical wall or common

enclosed airspace with any other

structure, it must take

appropriate measures to ensure

the smoke does not pass into

those other structures.

You just build a wall all the

way up.

It's got to be smoke proof wall.

This smoke shall not pass.

They just paint that at the

time.

This bill will not roll back any

municipalities, local smoke free

law.

That's not the intention, Lewis

previously said.

This is not about having a cigar

in a regular bar or bowling

alley or a restaurant.

I like to smoke my bowl.

You bowl.

No, I don't bowl.

I can see you as a bowler now.

I don't.

You know what I mean with the

whole button up.

The bowling shirt.

I do like bowling shirts.

Team Palmer.

Like those, this was not.

He added he sees numerous people

coming to the state for the

Kentucky Derby and other events

and then crossing the border to

Indiana.

Indiana, where they realize

there is nowhere for them to

enjoy a cigar and a drink.

The bill?

That's not true.

Yeah, there's cigar bars in

Kentucky.

No, in Indiana.

No, he's saying people go to

Indiana where you can smoke.

Oh, got it.

Yeah, that's I went to.

Kentucky.

I mean, they sell cigars at the

Kentucky Derby.

Got it.

I guess you get you can't smoke.

I do The bill has been making

steady progress though the House

through the House as it is

introduced by Rep Chris Lewis

from Lewisville on January 10th

and received approval from the

House Government Committee on

February 10th, 12th and now

heads to the Senate for

consideration.

That's because he.

Probably drives to

Jeffersonville and goes to see

Riverside or Match.

Smoke cigars and realizes that

he's no longer in Kentucky, is

in Indiana.

It's literally 45 minutes from

anywhere in Kentucky.

Really.

Well, from Louisville, it's

right across a bridge, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, I went.

If this passes, we'd like to

announce the expansion of Cigar

Hustler, the old Kentucky home

Cigar Hustler, where Greg will

be moving with his family and

expanding the Hustler empire.

So, so it's, it's kind of blows

your mind, right?

The biggest bourbon state.

It has no cigars, but everybody

likes to drink bourbon with

their cigars.

Right, kind of blows your mind.

Really just missing some sales

there, huh?

It's mind blowing.

Mind blowing.

And there's other places that

make bourbon.

Tennessee makes bourbon.

Yeah, but Kentucky is one of the

biggest.

It probably is the biggest.

We don't pack Jack on this, you

know.

Yeah, that's true.

Jonathan Lipson launches the

cigar.

Profit.

Oh.

He's a prophet.

Cigar industry veteran Jonathan

Lipson has launched A Cigar

Profit, a specialized consulting

firm designed to help cigar

businesses sharpen their

strategy, build brand equity and

drive long term.

God, don't do that on camera.

I'm not.

It's not on me.

He's not on camera.

Don't give away the secrets,

Barber.

Yeah, I've seen how branch

thrive and where they lose

momentum.

That Lipson the Cigar profit

helps businesses make smarter

moves, refine their positioning

and create lasting impact in a

competitive market.

Is it profit like PROFIT or is

it PROP?

No profit.

PROFIT.

Cigar, cigar money.

Lipson brings more than 20 years

of experience in the cigar

industry to his company.

He is likely best known for his

12 years with Alec Bradley,

which included eight years as

the Director of sales and

marketing.

Following SC GS acquisition of

Alec Bradley Lipson transition

to be a senior brand manager and

it just again does events.

Yeah, that's pretty much what

that.

Is pretty much I did right?

Yeah, OK.

He was in charge of sales and

marketing.

They're by the company and now

he's a monkey going to the

events going.

That's pretty much, yeah.

It's ambassador was really kind

of flagged high there and you

knew that your head was on the

chopping block.

As soon as like numbers went

down, they instantly fired.

Right, that's an easy,

replaceable person.

So they kind of slid in under

the term brand manager.

They felt that that was more

effective and a little bit more

secure as a job occupation.

See he also worked with SCG for

March 2023 until June of 20240.

Sorry.

He transitioned to brand manager

at SDG also.

Got it.

What was his name?

Oh, he's a lot of Lincoln A.

Lot of brand management

transitioning.

So OK, so where's this guy been

and all this band?

He's been in the industry for

how many years?

20. 20.

For 20 years. 20 years.

He started off at Alec Bradley,

or he wound up at Alec.

Bradley.

I think Alec Bradley was where

he was at.

Oh, no, he was there.

No, he started as a regional

Sit.

Hold on.

Let's figure out where he

started.

Let's see this.

All the way to the back.

OK started out as a tobacconist

for the Holtz Cigar Company.

OK, started at Holtz.

And then he moved as a regional

sales manager for La Flora

Dominicana.

OK, LFD.

LFD and then he worked as a

brand manager for STG and then

he was sales and marketing

manager at Alec and Bradley

until they got bought and then

they made him a brand manager

again.

Like he did really good at

passing out cigars.

So we're going to put you back

in the passing out cigars you.

Can pass out more cigars, right?

And now?

He's.

Telling He's telling you how to

start his own company.

So, so we got four different

jobs, 20 year span, so an

average of five years per.

Yeah.

Well, one of them, he was only

there for a year, OK.

And this is on an average.

And this is the guy.

This is the guy.

This is the guy.

This is the guy that will save.

And a tobaccon is for whole

cigar company.

Means he worked in a cigar shop.

Pretty much.

Yeah, that must have been a

team.

You start off as a retailer.

Yeah.

Is there other companies like

this or is this the 1st?

Oh, I'm sure there's.

Other Oh, there, there.

Probably all sorts of people

tell you how to run your

business.

Consulting companies.

Consultants.

Oh yes, I'm sorry, consultants.

The cigar Provident has

partnered with Cigars

Consulting, A Nicaraguan based

procurement and logistics firm

with additional operations in

Honduras and the Dominican

Republic.

Cigars Consulting was founded by

Nasir Valoinza.

OK.

Whom Lipson has previously

worked with in the cigar

industry, Veloinza takes a

comprehensive approach to

procurement, including

relationships with cigar

factories across Latin America,

quality control, vendor

negotiations, and end to end

logistics from raw material

sourcing to finish goods with

distribution.

You can't make this stuff up.

No, we're excited to combine our

global procurement and logistic

capabilities with the cigar

profit strategic expertise of

changing jobs every four or five

years.

This partnership gives clients

the tools to streamline

production, control quality, and

optimize costs while growing

their brand effectively.

What the hell does this cost to

to hire this guy?

Do you think it's?

What does it cost?

Yeah.

What do you think it costs?

I mean, he has to make money

doing this.

So what would Let's say we hire

them?

For, it's probably a percentage.

Percentage of sales You thinking

of their boots?

I think it's both and they would

probably be like a flat base.

There's got to be a fee involved

because they they can't survive

on.

Percentage like a retainer

Retainer.

Yeah, it's probably a few grand

a month.

Oh, monthly.

Yeah, plus X amount percentage

in sales, right.

Yeah.

Like you know, if you're doing

pretty good money, I mean, if

you're consulting based, you

probably wouldn't want to be

tied to sales at all at all,

right?

You'd probably just want to get

as much money upfront.

And your pitch would probably

be, well, you know, if you're

going to invest in me and then

you're investing in your future,

the whole thing, right.

And then by the time you realize

that things aren't working out

the way that you thought they

would, it's at least you make a

lot of money, six months to a

year of you spending cash.

Sure for for this guy to tell

you.

Post more.

Yeah, it's not like it's, yeah,

it's not like he.

It's like, hey, it'll be 4000.

Here's the brand that I've

built, right?

Here's how it's been sustainable

over these years, right?

And here's why I'm added value

to it, right?

And not like a track record.

Right.

And here's how I can make this

work right.

And instead, it's OK, I've been,

I've worked at four different

businesses.

I've done everything from retail

to manufacturing to wholesale.

I'll give you every term that

makes it sound elaborate, all

the all the things that I've

done right.

Right, all the fancy words,

brand manager.

But in all reality, I haven't

really.

Done really anything.

Yeah, you know, I mean, Alec

Bradley became as successful as

it did because of catalogs.

Right.

And Alec and Bradley.

No, only the one that we like.

Which one we like, Bradley?

Bradley, Bradley, Bradley,

that's the one.

You used to have the moustache.

Because Bradley's a sweet man.

Yeah, we like Bradley.

We never really met Alex, so

we're just going to say.

We're just going to say we don't

like.

Him.

Well, you got to pick one.

Yeah, so one brother is clearly

better than the other.

As with you and Greg, yeah, and

me and my brother.

So yeah, that's.

That's crazy.

And.

Bradley wins that right.

So this guy has never owned his

own brand?

No, no.

No.

I'm sorry, he was probably

instrumental in Alec and Bradley

selling to making all that

money.

Oh, you think?

Well, that's what I would tell

people at a meeting.

Well, that's what he that's what

he's probably going off of.

Right, we'll get you big and get

you sold.

Hey, you guys remember Alec and.

Bradley, I would like to

announce the start of the

Hustler Consulting business,

please right with our 21 years

of combined cigar industry

knowledge.

Over 2 decades.

Over 2 decades of business.

Success.

Seven years of smoking I've

done.

You can add in seven more.

Years.

I got to be honest, at the end

of the day, a consulting

business for us wouldn't be the

worst thing because, you know,

you would sit down with a person

and you would analyze them and

get their perspective and talk

about things like, OK, you know,

your expectations are here when

they need to be here, right?

You're hiring, firing schemes.

All these other things that you

do are wrong.

I mean, I could break down a lot

of that stuff, sure, because we

actually have knowledge in that,

right?

I don't know if I'd want to do

that though.

That sounds like.

You send a couple of emails, you

send a couple emails, you make a

brochure.

Well, the qualifications here

are a lot better than his

qualification 100.

Percent.

Yeah, you own your own brand,

right?

You have your own wholesale

distribution.

Business.

I can do everything that the

Venezuela guy's doing, right?

All the logistics factory making

moving things from here to

there, right?

Making sure the product's

quality control.

Sure, I can do all that, right?

I still have people.

They're just not doing anything

right now.

They're just, they're just

between jobs.

No, there's other lines that I

wasn't involved.

With they're just, they're,

they've joined other consulting

firms, Yeah.

Other consulting firms, yeah.

Cigar Province currently

accepting inquiries from cigar

manufacturer and brand owners

and retailers who want to

sharpen their strategy and grow

confidently.

This story's courtesy of Cigar

Coupe, which is the only place I

saw it.

I think I'm not.

He covered this.

Yes, all right, we got a Shop of

the Week.

Do we have a shop of the week I.

Have a shop of the week.

Then yes, we have a shop of the

week.

Holy smokes, in the villages

where I was yesterday, yes,

today's Tuesday.

I lose track of the days

anymore.

They're a new retailer.

They're working hard, yeah.

They celebrated their

eight-month anniversary

yesterday.

They're doing some things right.

They're finding their way.

Be good.

It's not an easy business, it.

Is not an easy.

Business.

Did you offer us the consulting

business to them?

Did you hit them on some

consulting fees?

No, apparently, though we

should.

We could help you.

We could help you if you just

sign right here.

Sign right here the dotted line.

Give me a check.

Give me a check that's.

All you got to do to get

started.

OK, no post dated second party

company checks either.

Post dated third party out of

state.

None of those.

That's what it's called.

You gotta listen to the week,

Michael.

No, you do.

No, I have a listener.

How do you not have a listener

of the week?

I did Shop of the Week this

week.

I thought you'd do one, you'd do

the other.

No, I did all the stories.

You even check with me

afterwards, he didn't say.

Hey, I don't have a listener of

the week.

You walked in, sat down, we

started.

Basically we moved the things

around a little bit, shuffle,

shuffle, shuffle, and now you

got to take everything back in

the other.

Room Shuffle, Shuffle, shuffle

Hector Alfonso Senior.

Newest Patreon member hector

Alfonso senior newest Patreon We

wish him well in his medical

inquiries a.

Speedy recovery.

Yes, we miss you, Hector.

We miss you, Hector.

OK.

All right, he's been episode 376

Cigar Hustler podcast.

We'll just know what you think

about the new setup.

If you like it, don't like it,

one is back in the other room.

Give us some words.

We don't care.

Give us your Intel.

All right, thanks.

Got to go.

Bye.

All right, bye.

Show Notes

This week, we dive into the latest headlines, from the passing of legendary singer Roberta Flack to Starbucks simplifying their menu—say goodbye to those over-the-top custom orders! The Washington Commanders shake up their roster, a WNBA star makes it clear she’s choosing someone over Drake, and Dodge might owe you $5,000… but don’t start spending just yet.

In cigar news, Raul Reyner is launching a new brand with the most complicated initial offering ever, Davidoff crowns a new Coffee—er, Cigar King, and Gurkha is getting a little… bigger. Meanwhile, Garo might be shipping a new cigar, Kentucky expands its cigar lounge scene, and a brand-new consultant is here to teach you how to sell cigars.

All this and more on Episode 376 of A Cigar Hustlers Podcast! Tune in now!