A Cigar Hustlers Podcast Episode 290 PCA Recap Show
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I ain't got nothing to read.
It's 290.
Welcome to another great episode
of Cigar Hustler's podcast,
Episode 290.
Sorry, please, just sitting in
for Phil today.
Gonna go around the room.
Around the room.
Can you flex?
Can you flex?
You know, I give it like no I.
Feel like I did a lot of
flexing.
I'm flexing in the last episode
so I'm gonna crazy.
I'm gonna try and dumb it down a
little bit.
A little, a little less flexing.
Not gonna be so much this time.
Well.
Yeah.
How's the life, chicken even
going?
Is that going well?
You know, it's better than the 4
gallons of milk, all the dairy.
Yeah, it's definitely better.
And I gotta earn it when I, you
know, I gotta chase them like
Rocky.
Right, right.
Yeah, that burns the fat.
Yeah, yeah, it's, you know,
that's good.
So skip doing that diet, too.
He looked great in the couple of
photos.
He saw.
You know what, I didn't ask him,
but it looks like he's down
about 20 to 30 pounds.
Yeah, you could tell.
Yeah.
I saw it first in his face in
one photo, and then there was a
picture later on in the week of,
like, waist up.
I went to Adrian.
I went, Does he look thinner to
you?
He looks thinner, right?
Yeah, he's definitely down.
He's.
He look good.
All right.
So we're actually recording as
we just landed last night and
we're here recording now to kind
of that way we can talk.
We can talk because, well, it's
also fresh on your guys mind,
yeah.
I mean, you stared at me long
enough upstairs.
We're just sitting there like
come up with these questions
like.
I just answered how's PCA I.
Mean.
Luckily, Greg got here first.
I asked him a couple of
questions.
He knows nothing.
Did you?
Yeah, he doesn't know, really.
He's.
No, no, I just did it go well.
You sell as many cigars as you
had hoped.
He stayed.
And what did he say?
He said.
Not as many as I hoped, but
enough we're not.
Upset.
What a political answer.
You're right.
You know what that's a that's
pretty accurate.
That's pretty accurate.
I think that we did, you know we
did as far as Posania and
Phosphoro and Fable are
concerned, we did fairly well
good.
I think that I guess that you
know when you can always you
have expectations and you expect
that you're going to do this
sure thing right.
Right.
And we did along those lines,
right.
The psychopath in me always
looks at it and say, OK, what
were the mistakes that we made?
How do we get better?
I do.
I do better.
Yeah.
I didn't really focus on, hey,
you know this is great.
I just that's just not I'm I'm
just not built that way.
You know, how do I achieve the
next higher number is really
what I'm kind of looking.
At, just like you did last week.
Really.
Just the just the way you're
carrying yourself.
He did a good job.
He did a He did a great job.
He did it.
He was very funny.
He was very funny.
I'm still going to kick his
fucking ass when I see.
Him he.
He's expecting.
He's expecting that.
No, I love Chad.
He was happy to be on the road
today.
By the way, Said Said was
fantastic.
It was a it was a great show,
Great episode.
I mean, I was laughing, Skip
said.
He laughed so hard that he
almost pissed himself.
No.
No he no, he did.
Oh, he did.
He did.
Poor Brandon.
Over there is Phil.
He couldn't stop laughing long
enough to even say anything.
The.
Fact that he ate the money on
the Listen, if you haven't
watched the YouTube episode,
just the intro alone, you have
to plug this in because Palmer
was playing Greg, Chet was
playing me, and Brandon was
playing Phil and it's fucking
hilarious.
It really is.
Greg is spot on.
I feel like all of them were
spot on, right?
You know, they really were.
Phil's is eating.
The money was fantastic.
That's all he had.
Yeah, I just, I mean the the
best part for Phil was the fact
that he had Brandon is playing
him because he didn't say a
whole hell of a lot, right?
Where Phil does say a lot.
Right, right.
Well, he was so busy laughing.
He couldn't watching me and
Chad, he just laughing and he
couldn't.
Every time we cut to him, he's
just giggling.
Yeah, I feel like.
You had to, if I'm gonna
critique a little, go ahead.
You had to let Caleb in on what
the fuck was going on, because
when?
He thought you were really here.
Yeah, cuz when he took over it
was man, you know, you kind of
lost it at that point.
He had to know.
He had to be in on the joke.
I assumed he would recognize
that there wasn't your voice or
something.
I guess he hasn't really heard
it enough.
You know, Kate, Caleb isn't.
I feel like Caleb is the weakest
link on the dunturf.
Yeah?
Yes, he's a psychopath, right?
Don't get me wrong, he's doing
crazy stupid shit like eating
the fucking jalapeno.
Whatever.
But.
Wait, you think he's the
psychopath?
Hold on.
But Jerry and Geo?
Well, first of all, Jerry is.
He's next level.
He's a psycho.
He's next.
They are.
They are fucking your
quintessential super troopers.
Just yeah, yeah they had a great
time that was that was what was
really important to me is make
sure that they got to see who
they wanted to see and and talk
and have a good time and and
then boots, you know gave them
the boots being the man that he
is in the industry gave them the
tour and show them stuff and you
know and then when they couldn't
and when they when they found
themselves at Met walls like
they couldn't get things done or
couldn't make intros and stuff
like.
Where do you need to go?
Yeah, Who do we gotta?
Who do we want to talk?
Yeah.
We're like, oh, can we talk to
this person?
I'm like, OK, well, look, it'd
be better if Mikey comes along
with us on this one, you know,
like Eric Espinoza and stuff
like that, right?
Yeah.
I mean, he'll talk with me and
we'll bullshit and stuff, but
Mikey gets a different.
You're the guy.
He beat it.
Cornhole or whatever it was,
Yeah, that's what he always
wants to talk about.
That's what he tells everybody.
Yeah, you know, and it's not.
And that's not like an ego flex
thing for me.
That's just the I've had this 13
years.
You know the people.
Yeah, 13 years have built
relationships where all of their
walls are down and they know who
I am.
And like we have a we have a
good friendship.
Sure.
You know one thing that I told I
said to Eric?
Who is who was very upset that
he hasn't been on the show
lately by?
We just called him not.
Long ago.
Now he's he's upset.
I.
Don't think we called them Eric
Bay, Eric.
Oh no.
No he is not.
You know, one forever.
Here's what's awesome about the
cigar industry.
There are a handful of dudes
that will go out of their way
for you, right?
And have your back whether you
buy and support them or not,
right?
And Eric is definitely one of
those.
He is.
He is, Yeah.
You know, I distinctly remember
a time when we weren't Espinoza.
We weren't carrying Espinoza at
the time, and I was traveling in
Tennessee.
I think it might have been with
you or might have been solo.
I think it was.
I wasn't with you in Tennessee,
and I remember that trip.
Though he said, hey, if you get
jammed up, I think he said hi.
And you know, my sister or my
sisterinlaw or something is
close by.
Yeah, you know, because you knew
he knew that I was at that
point, I was in kind of
uncharted territory, right, You
know, So he's definitely.
He's one of those dudes, you
know?
I mean, he's just a fucking good
guy, so.
I think we started carrying them
when Jack went over.
Maybe.
Yeah, it sounds about right,
Yeah.
Yeah, I think this this trip, I
saw a lot more of Eric
Espinoza's side of helping of.
Being who he actually is.
Yeah, not just the character.
Like the real the real person.
Yeah, you gotta, you know.
You when it comes to guys like
that, you got to meet aggression
with aggression.
So you know he comes and says
motherfucker, I'm like,
motherfucker me motherfucker,
I'm like, what are we yelling
about?
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But I know that you're yelling
and I got to yell back to shut
it the fuck down.
He's awesome, man.
I really got to give it to him.
Yeah, the IT was like celebrity
year I.
Said there was a lot of people
there at police.
Everybody Boots had their photo
with.
I mean, so there you go there.
But there was no photo with you
guys with Guy Fieri.
I ain't got fucking time for
that circus.
Yeah, he got one with guys.
That's right.
With the guys, yeah.
With the down to her guys,
that's.
Right.
Yeah, they really like that was
like that that and UH, Palmetary
was their highlight.
Chaz Bona Mono Mono.
Yeah, that guy.
Chaz Palminary.
So.
Like Palmer, but with a.
So there was, there were those
two guys, Chad.
Oh, Jacinco was there, Yeah.
Which was like a Unicorn for me.
Oh, because that's your you guy
from the gym.
No, you.
Know that's not who's who's
who's the wrestler at the gym.
Oh, no, that's, oh, Moss,
that's.
Oh, it's very close name.
Sport.
Not a cigar.
I don't.
Sports former.
Yeah, sports work.
I don't support, no, but you
know I.
I don't know.
That guy was at the basket you
took picture with at the airport
in Salt Lake City.
Yeah, a lot of.
People Juda, That's the.
Well, I saw that.
You know, it's so fun.
Well, Han, you're jumping ahead.
You get a walk classroom.
Sorry.
You force went to get all the
sports together.
OK, we'll shut the fuck up for
one second.
You went to the end of the trip,
right?
OK, we're at the beginning of
the trip.
Sorry.
OK, The love of God.
See, that's the one thing Chet
didn't do is he didn't scold you
enough during the podcast.
That's you.
Know I didn't interrupt him.
There was number.
Yeah, he just shut up and let
him fucking do his thing.
Well, except when he started
talking about your wife and the
kids are like, no, no, that's
not the.
Football thing, yeah.
We're not, we're not going down
that road.
No, no, Back, back, back.
Let's go back this way.
He's like OK.
OK.
So Chad O Justin go.
Chad O Justin Go was there.
He's he's kind of like a Unicorn
for me.
He's always, I've always seen
him like as a cigar guy and
shit.
And he's one of the guys that
I've admired in in the game of
football because nobody's been
able to Createspace as a wideout
like, oh, Joe Cinco.
So I didn't get oh wait, did I
get a I did actually get a
picture.
Yeah, you.
Did one with him.
And I Facetimed the boys.
Oh, did you, Ducky?
Yeah, I said.
Hey.
You know, do you mind talking to
them for a second?
He goes, yeah, sure, man, does
you care walking.
I'm like sure.
No problem.
So of course Jack doesn't say
shit, which drives me nuts so
that I go, he likes to play
safety and he says he can cover
you.
He goes, you can't cover me,
man.
I'm like, yes, you know, just
Cinco fashion big Cirrus was
there.
Leon Cirrus was there.
Ike Taylor was there.
So.
That was the one I was going to
lead into, but I just want to
make sure I covered everybody
else.
Carl.
Carl Malone was there.
We, you know, we were in the gym
with him again.
That dude fucking works out,
which is nice.
Jazz Palm Terry.
Yeah.
Guy and I thought we saw one
more.
I think I feel like we did a.
Little guy with the dog was
there, Shorty was there.
Ike, I mentioned Ike.
There was a couple other
basketball guys, too.
Yeah.
So OK, so we're walking and.
I'm like, yo, that's Alonzo
Mourning, and he's just kind of
roaming around hitting up shit
now.
He's like one of the most famous
Miami Heat players, right.
Of all time, right.
And he's a super nice guy, very
generous, does a whole fucking
thing for the community.
I mean, you know, he's been,
he's cool.
So I'm like, hey, we should go
get, we want to go get a Poe
with him.
He's like, yeah, of course.
He's like Boots is like, yeah,
absolutely.
Like, where is it?
Yeah.
And I could.
I could spot him.
I'm like the fucking tall guy,
you know, you can't miss Zoe.
So.
So we walk up to him and he's
like, hey man, you got a second
for a picture?
And he fucking did like this.
He closed his eyes real quick
and did like that.
And you know the Ben Affleck
photo that you always see where
he's holding the cigarette
outside, right?
Like that was the look that Zoe
made and and he kept walking and
he kept walking.
He's like, yeah, OK, man.
And I was like, yo.
After we were done, I said to
Boots, I go, That was the
realest shit.
I fucking feel him in that
because there are so many times
you're just like, I don't
fucking.
Yeah, I don't want to take.
I don't.
I'm fucking.
I don't want to talk, right?
Just please, just give me.
I just want to make it from the
car at the office without being
confronted by the modern decay
of western society.
You know, like cigar Booth,
please.
Just want to hang out.
I'm like you and I even said,
hey, you want some cigars?
He goes, bro, I don't need any
cigars.
I'm like, OK, like, so that's.
What?
It's mine though, I know.
But that's who you could tell
where he was at at that point.
He's just like, fuck, man, you
know, jeez Louise.
And he still sucked it up and he
still did, you know, he still
put on a show very briefly.
Yeah, so.
I don't know.
For me, I was like, yeah, man,
thank you.
And I I understand.
I I understand.
You know?
So that was pretty fucking
remarkable.
What else do you want to know?
Let's, let's get into.
It did you see David Garofalo?
We I saw him when I was in the
parking lot, but.
We didn't speak to him.
Boots was getting all gassed up.
He's like, brought him over,
right?
Oh yeah.
No bad.
He's a good guy, you know?
I was about to roll down the
window I.
Was like, roll it up.
No, no, no.
Uh, did you talk to Booth?
There was no photos with Booth
or no?
I didn't really see him.
Uh, I got to talk with him for a
while, but yeah, but my but
Mikey was super busy and.
Sure.
Yeah, I know he was busy selling
and stuff.
And truthfully, Booth was, uh,
super busy.
You are.
You are Booth today.
Booth.
Booth.
Oh, Booth, he said.
Booth, you're talking third
person.
Yeah, no, Matt Booth was super
busy too.
I mean, even when I was over
there, they were pulling him.
And left, right?
Yeah, forward, down.
I mean, he was.
They were pulling him pretty
hardcore.
So the PCA did a couple things
right this time around.
They did this gala at the
beginning.
Right.
Don't they always do an opening
night?
They do, but they've did it
right this time.
OK?
They had like a line where you
can go get cigars.
You got cigars from Booth
Espinoza Saka.
Am I forgetting anything?
Anders.
Yeah, and then they had like a
Paleo lighter that you grabbed.
And then there was a Guy Fieri
fucking meet and greet Fucking.
Jerk me off.
Whatever the fuck, right?
Right.
Because everybody.
Told him around for the 3:40.
He was there every day it looked
like at.
Least at least the Friday,
Saturday and Sunday I know.
That's for a fact.
I think it was 3 days, yeah, cuz
then he went to the World Series
of Poker or whatever.
Oh, did he?
Yeah.
So yeah, so that was, that was
awesome.
And then they had open bar and
then they had like people
running around with appetizers,
right?
So it was like pre booze,
everybody was there, right?
And I'm like, OK, that's that's
a step in the right direction.
Yeah, the tags are no longer
paper.
They took the paper tags and oh,
did they and attach them to
plastic so they didn't rip and
look like complete shit.
Oh, that's nice.
Yeah, you know, those two
things, Definitely.
The two strap hanger more
comfortable than the single.
Right.
Yeah.
So those two things definitely
resonated with me saying, OK, at
least PCA is hearing the
feedback and they're trying to
make adjustments.
I still feel like they got a
long way to go.
Right.
But they did go ahead, sorry.
But they did cover some
improvements.
Yeah, they did a lot of
interviews on their own on their
Instagram.
I saw that.
Dozens and dozens of them.
I did see that.
I don't know how I feel about
it.
Yeah, get it.
Kind of steals away from the
other guys, huh?
I don't know if that's the case.
From the media people, you
think, Yeah.
I don't know.
You know what?
I don't know if that's the case.
I think it's good that they did
that.
I think that they just got to
fine tune it somehow.
Yeah, they need a person that
does.
Instead of just going here's the
microphone, we're gonna record
you for three seconds.
Because you could.
Then when you do that, you could
see the guys that are seasoned
and handling themselves.
And some of the guys were
comfortable doing.
It right.
Some of them were just like,
like.
I have cigars.
Right.
Yeah.
So you need somebody to fix that
filler, right?
You know, and I think, I don't
know if.
Bova to Rob, formerly Bova to
Rob was the guy that was
handling that or not.
Oh, but he might have been.
I didn't see it.
I thought I saw his photo once,
but he's a slender guy with a
big beard.
I mean, it could have been just
about anybody.
It could have been anybody.
Yeah, that's that's about 99%.
I remember Jerry said, hey, a
friend of mine, a friend of
yours reached out and said blah
blah blah, who is he?
As well?
As you know, he's a larger guy.
He's got a beard and a hat.
Or he's a large guy, bald with a
beard.
I go, dude, you just named 70%.
Of people.
The fucking scarring people
here.
So thanks for.
Dumbing that down a little bit.
Right.
Didn't even ever down the hair
color.
Yeah, you know, I would say that
I opened more new accounts than
I thought.
Oh, did you really?
That's good.
That was cool.
And you know, I think attendance
was definitely up from this year
to last year, right?
It's still got to go a ways.
The difference was there weren't
too many tire kickers.
I didn't.
I didn't have to shoot too many
people away, right?
I thought ask if you turned
anybody away.
Hey, so.
Oh, yeah.
There's a couple handful.
There's a couple that you can
read you like.
Oh, you're completely full of
shit.
You just want free cigars,
right?
Right.
Sometimes.
Maybe I'd give them a cigar or
something like that, but I
wouldn't waste mine, you know,
20 minutes, right?
Tell them what's going on, Stuff
like that.
Like just Sally.
Just say you want the free
cigar.
I don't want to go thinking
about your brand.
We've heard good things.
Yeah, we need to try 1.
Yeah, I really want a sample.
Do you have a sample?
Right, that would cinch it.
I.
Think I'll tell you what, let me
light this up and I'll blow it
in your face.
Oh, it's nice.
How's that?
So how was your birthday?
Did your birthday go well?
Oh, my birthday went great.
Thank you so much for harassing
everybody.
You know what's funny is you
actually upset a lot of people.
Yeah.
Oh, because you said it wasn't
your birthday.
Yeah.
And they're like, they felt
stupid.
Oh yeah.
Well, I didn't ask anybody to
other than did anybody sing?
I was trying to get a group to
come sing to you.
Nobody's saying.
OK, that was the only thing I
had set up was I was trying to
sort of singing.
Nobody's saying.
Your your wife was in on that
because I got her to approve it.
Like, hey, I think I'm going to
do that, she goes.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you should.
You definitely do that.
I mean W from Crown Heads went
around and took it and ran with
it.
He's like hey, happy, but he did
it for like 4 days in a row.
I'm like and you know when I
fixed corrected some people like
Oh well, happy birthday, you
know, they just kept going on my
job.
Early that way, right?
To wish you happy birthday at
the PC?
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So, yeah, it was fun.
It was it was entertaining, you
know, you guys up to your
fucking shenanigans over here?
I like, thank everybody who
reached out to me and asked me
why I wasn't there.
I thought that was nice.
I got a lot of messages and.
I just told them the truth.
I told them that you're working
your way out.
You don't want to be a part of
this anymore.
Oh, good, because I told
everybody that you got mad at me
and said I couldn't.
Come.
Oh, the perfect.
So it worked out.
Well, yeah, he's just not.
I'm going to talk to him.
Sean Coleman was very upset.
I wasn't there.
He was going to say something to
you.
I love Sean.
He wants to be on the show.
Oh yeah, because you guys never
had me on the show.
He didn't even say that to me.
Oh, he did to me.
Really.
When?
When we called Boots to try to
get Jamie on the phone and talk
to 75 other people before he
found Jamie.
I.
Was Shawn was?
One of the people he handed his
phone did.
I was all the way on the other
side.
Well, I asked if you were near
Roma and you said yes, you know.
I mean, technically I am.
I'm in the same building.
Here's what's crazy, man.
It's nice to have the the big
wigs on right?
Your Knicks, your Sockas, you
know, your skips, your Michaels.
Everybody talks to them.
You're Eric's.
You're in Black Star line and
right, You know, even even Howie
G and those dudes, right?
Right.
The you know, the guys are on
the top of their brands, but
there is so much shit in
between.
That people don't really talk
about or have them come on
right.
So it may not be a draw as far
as a name to listen, right?
But when you listen to them and
you get some more in detail
inner working stuff, I think
that those things are
fascinating.
Like I mean the more compliment.
I got so many compliments about
Danny coming on from Tobacco
Plaza in New York and and
fucking Alan.
Alan Schumer.
Yeah, so somebody placed an
order and said.
Oh, you're the retailer that
fucking throws everybody out and
he goes, not everybody.
So it's cool to see that this is
a platform for everybody and
everybody has the ability to
kind of say their piece and
stuff, like say what they want
to say.
And we just let them go.
Like, let them do it.
So I want to talk to Jamie.
Nobody ever talks to Jamie.
Yeah, and I would have talked to
Arlen too, but I know she gets
nervous because she doesn't
think her English is that good,
and I don't want to put her on
the spot.
Well, she doesn't like to speak
English, right?
I mean, she does, but she holds.
Back right so.
So I didn't want to go, hey now
put on the none of them.
I'm going to tell you, the
Volstead, it's fucking awesome.
Yeah, we smoked a bunch of
those.
We smoked.
I'm at that Box press Volstead
when that thing drops.
Holy shit, dude.
Good, huh?
That thing is fucking
ridiculous.
The Quinn Quad.
Gennaro.
Quinn Gennaro, right?
Yeah, I stole a couple of those,
you know, smoked those fucking
money.
He's good.
Yeah, I had it.
We were gone.
The other thing this is that I
thought I I haven't, we haven't
smoked everything yet, right?
Obviously because we were busy
issue, right?
And we were waiting for Palmer.
Yeah, and we wanted to smoke
them with you, but I did smoke
one of the new Dondor Teos.
I thought it was fantastic.
Just one.
They have two new two new ones.
I I don't know if they're both
under the salt of the Earth
platform.
Yeah, they they are both salt of
the earth, but one's like a
Korea creola.
Creola.
Creola.
And well, I know one's A
Cameroon.
That smoke a cameroon's fucking
money.
All this stuff's good, just a
little pricey.
Yeah, sometimes, you know.
You know, it was cool.
They have this big tobacco thing
that they were taking the
tobacco out of like the chunks.
Yeah.
And then they were letting
people smoke them in pipes.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, they should get.
Taste the leaf or something.
No, they were giving out pipes.
Oh, OK.
Jerry, Jerry got the smoke it.
He said.
It was great.
So the other thing was cool was,
you know, the relation that we
didn't start going, it didn't
start.
The relationships that have been
established over the course of a
decade are fantastic because I
reached out to Eric Black,
Starline said.
Hey.
I need a couple cigars from me
and Palmer to smoke on the show,
right.
They said no problem and brought
them right over.
Right.
Same thing with Garrett.
Hey, man, can you be like, if I
knew I couldn't get away, can
you grab me a couple?
Sure, no problem.
You know, that was fucking
fantastic.
I appreciate.
It guys.
Man made a lot easier.
For you, very grateful for for
the friends that I've obtained
in this industry.
So it was the best thing you
smoke there, I know that you
said there's several you haven't
smoked yet.
Take yours and Romas out of the
out of the.
That's fucked up.
You know it's not.
First of all he knows you're
gonna pick one of those.
OK.
The best thing I smoked there
was the post on the Connecticut
of course.
Yes.
Obviously yes.
As you out obvious outwork
everybody and.
Then the Volt, and then the Volt
said out of.
That and then that, Bull said.
That's right.
Well, very good.
And the, I mean John Guinero.
I think the Queen Quad Gennaro
is better than the Volstead oh.
Yeah, but that's going to be a
limited though, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's only so many of those.
That's going to suck. 1st To
Gary.
He's done out of, out of his
house, away from.
What did I smoke?
Did I was, you know, I didn't
smoke too much.
Other than that, I would say
that Don Door Teo, Cameroon was
fucking money.
Yeah, there's your.
Gun Yeah, that's that thing was.
And you said that one's only 16.
I think so, something like.
So I mean that remember the
other one was really good too,
but the hard part was that it
was it was so expensive, right?
So now bringing it back down
into the right bracket.
You know, that might help out a
lot.
The red meat lovers was really
good.
I smoked that.
Is it a new one, or is it the
same one they've always had?
Well, it was original smoking
yada yada, and now they got four
different.
The top.
So now it's a production thing.
Yeah, now it's a thing.
Soccers making.
Yeah.
I like that black one too.
I think the biggest one that
Saka is going to have is going
to be that Papa Saka.
That's going to be the most
sought after.
As far as out of his group.
Is that an LE or is that regular
production?
I don't know.
They didn't say.
I just bought some and.
Then what about the?
You said something about the
Matapo.
Yeah, the Matapo was great, but
we smoked out already.
I smoked it here.
I didn't smoke it at the show.
You.
I think we only got one of
those.
I think you smoked it.
I don't know if we got another
one.
The charter is that.
The Charter Oak one.
No, the charter oaks are really
good too.
But again, I didn't smoke those
at the show.
I smoked them here.
Right, so.
Isn't there another new one that
he's coming out with you?
Knight Rider.
Knight Rider, Knight Rider,
Knights of Columbus, or some?
Shit, he he's a knight now.
He's been knighted, Yeah, by the
Ethiopian something or yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a knight.
That's why it's called.
Sir Sir Nick.
The whole time I was there.
Yeah, the Ethiopian something.
His foot was all fucked up and
shit.
His foot, Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I was that.
Mikey had to carry him.
Did you carry him?
No.
I didn't know you might have.
I was.
Trying to get him to do it.
I got you would carry him.
I was like, hey, he'll carry it.
Hey, I kept telling him he's
like, no, no, I'm good.
I'm good.
I just want to make sure that
everybody I go with.
This electric cart What's?
Important to me is that
everybody we bring has a good
time, you know what I mean?
So I, you know, I wanted to make
sure that Jerry and Geo enjoyed
themselves that they got to see
and do all the things that they
wanted to see and do right and.
I mean that was really my
priority.
Obviously opening up accounts
and and talking with the
customers and retailers is
important too.
So pick up any new brands for
the shop?
No.
No.
No new brands.
I saw Wild Wildfire.
They won an award for best small
booth or something because they
had that camping thing.
They had an RV I guess there,
so.
Jeremy's cool.
You know the hard part with this
is what I love.
When a retailer sits down, you
know they don't want to buy your
shit.
They usually say to you, hey, my
you know, there's full, you
know, shit buddy.
Everybody's So you either a like
my product and you make room or
you know, just tell me you're
not interested.
Hey, these are the guys.
I like your chairs.
So I say all that simply because
when it comes to picking up a
new guy, what you're pretty much
saying is, hey, I'm picking you
as a horse and I'm going to,
right, I'm going to establish.
This is going to work right?
You know.
If somebody would come to me and
say, hey, Posano doesn't sell on
my Humidor, I would say, well,
do you bring it to consumers?
Do you show your customers?
Do you?
The guy who's got 3 cigars in
his hand and they're all Habano,
do you say, hey, you should
probably try this too, you'll
love.
Something else you might like.
Right, because this is really
good too.
Or do you just set it on the
shelf and think it's going to
sell right.
You know there are a handful of
companies that will just sell
that way it, but it doesn't make
any, it doesn't make you.
A better retailer if you just
leave it right now.
You want to educate your
consumers.
I love the guy that comes in and
says help me pick something out.
Right.
Well, you know what, but more
the majority of the time even
with your retailers.
When you walk in, say, hey,
would you need some help?
The answer is gonna be no,
right.
Right.
So then you still have to kind
of go back and say, yeah, let's
see, yeah.
So what do you, what do you grab
and what do you normally smoke?
You got to open up that you got
to break that ice, right?
Not just say OK, Yeah.
All right.
See you later.
Good, good.
I'll be over here by The
Register.
Yeah, I'll just wait to ring you
up, Sir.
You know, because a guy doesn't
want to inconvenience you, they
get nervous.
Right.
You know, they just start
peddling straightening stuff.
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
So what do you have but you?
Don't want to hover, but once
they acquire.
If they're on one side, I go to
the other.
Or you just say, hey, what do
you normally smoke, right?
You know, that's usually my next
step.
You need help?
No.
OK.
What do you smoke?
Right.
This is what I like.
Oh, that's good.
This one's good.
You know, here I can make some
recommendations if you want to
try some other stuff, right?
I don't know.
But as but as my boy Skip says,
what the fuck do I know?
Right.
What's your question?
Didn't you smoke the V1 from
Crown Heads The.
V1 No, I didn't.
No, they have some new V1.
He's great on the names.
He's great on the names.
It's like you.
Know you said it.
Was a Cuban one, but it's not.
It's like a mix.
The new espinos are the Las
Calaveras, yeah.
Yeah, the new espinos Las
calaveras.
Like, what the fuck are you
doing?
There, there was.
So the difference that I saw
from this year to last year is
the new cigars.
Truthfully, weren't, like, out
there, like in your face, right,
Right.
Like they were the year before.
They were like, oh, try the new
cigar, try the new cigar, try
the new cigar.
Like this year was a little
different.
Like, they weren't telling you
like, hey, try our new cigar.
It was, hey, buy all of our
cigars and then you'll get the
new cigar.
Right.
Well, you know, I think that
here's what happens.
As a brand, as you kind of get
going, you're excited.
You think that, you know, Page 2
on your business plan is
fucking.
Champagne, champagne and caviar.
And like life is good, right?
So you spend all this money, you
give all these cigars on, you
realize that that you're ready
to return.
Isn't that doesn't go that well,
right?
All of a sudden you kind of
maybe I should hold back a
little bit, right.
The good news is this time
around, I didn't really see a
ton of influencers as you
normally see.
Oh really?
I think that some of the guys,
some of the guys and girls that
have grown up a little bit as
far as the influence influencers
have found their way with a
company, right, they're now
theirs.
Work specifically for somebody?
Yeah.
And they promote within that
company, which makes sense.
I don't see many of them on
social media anymore either.
Yeah, because the reality is
that it doesn't fucking pay
well, right?
Right, right.
Like if you can get free cigars.
Yeah, you better be passionate
about what the fuck you're
doing, right?
I heard Melanie was Eric in this
year.
She was in the Fuente booth, I
think.
Yeah, she's they hired.
Her Eric Bay did something funny
on that one.
I'll tell you about that on the
Patreon.
Yeah.
What he did is.
Somebody told?
Me.
Yeah, it's it's out there.
You know, out of out of all the
booths though, I think my
favorite booth was the Dawn door
Tail.
Oh yeah, they have a different
one from the TPE.
Yeah, so.
I tell the group I saw the group
shot today, It looked different.
It was slightly similar.
Yeah, it was similar, but they
had this whole setup for the
salts of the earth, right?
Where they have like like some
tobacco plants, like kind of.
Growing.
I saw that, yeah.
All this mist coming out and
there was like little flames and
stuff is there's a pretty cool
production looking kind of
thing.
Yeah.
And then they had where they
would chop the tobacco, whatever
that thing is like a look like a
root.
It was all tobacco in it.
They would chop that, let you
smoke that.
And then they also had this type
of rum that you could drink as
well with the.
With the pipe thing.
With the pipe thing or with the
cigar, right.
So it was like something made
with like honey.
It was something that's made
back in there.
Family.
Do they have the Dorito
commercial up again?
No, that's.
Like, hey, do you?
You know you want, have you
tried this?
Yadda yadda.
I'm like, no.
And then I see him pull out a
bottle.
My Oh no, I'm good.
I already say enough as is
without drinking.
That's all I fucking need.
They can get him drunk.
He will buy my yeah guys.
I got a good Pete Hernandez
story.
Oh, that will also be on the
Patreon.
There's me log as if on the
Patreon.
I would imagine there's
definitely some great shit that
we can talk about on the
Patreon.
Are you going to talk about the
whole Espanoza thing on the
Patreon I?
Don't know what you're talking
about, but I.
You can if you want me to.
Well, you know, make you pay.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, We could
talk about that.
Sure, Sure.
I'm glad you're here.
I'm glad you're here.
You know what's even funnier
too, though, is like at 11:00.
O'clock, I'm out.
I'm going to bed if I'm in if
I'm.
Really.
You didn't say I'm late?
No.
No, I kept it on point.
You know, the reality is that, I
mean, I love hanging out and
bullshitting and stuff, but I
got shit to do.
I want to be, you know, I got to
hit the gym in the morning on
specific days, and I want to be
at the showroom floor in an
appropriate time and not feel
like shit, right?
Because things are a lot easier
if you do that.
Oh, I'm sure, if you're rough
around the edges and you fucking
come.
Drag your ass in, man.
It's no good.
It's no good.
So.
Yeah, the last night, I think
you stayed up till 12.
Yeah, the night that we didn't
have to go and.
Get up the next morning.
Yeah, and I got to sit down and
bullshit with Skip and, and and
I got to catch up with Charlie a
little bit, which I always
enjoy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then who else was there?
You know?
It was really cool that we had a
good time with.
The majority of the time.
Was Nick from Cigar Done?
Oh yeah, he hung out a lot.
Yeah.
Super nice guy, man.
Yep.
What else you got?
Questions all is every Is
anything from the media night?
Not Patreon.
That's when I was a media night.
Oh, we got to hang out with a
couple.
When I saw that, I told everyone
go, this is what I miss.
This this thing right here.
Yeah, walking around the floor
and everything that's there.
But that kind of stuff though.
Yeah, because it's an extremely
intellectual conversation when
you hang out with all those
guys, right?
Right.
It looked like everybody was
taking turns telling the story.
Oh yeah, yeah, that one down.
You know what's funny though,
is?
Some of those stories I've
already heard like 7 times.
Oh yeah, oh.
Really.
I could, yeah, I could always.
I can almost do them verbatim.
I could probably do the skip
ashtray story verbatim at this
point, you know and, but you
know, I don't mind hearing it.
Up.
That's when I was a hang on
boots again like you did last
year.
No, he was too far away.
Oh, are you talking about the?
That was a media night.
Yeah, when everybody hung out
outside with it that.
Was almost like a we we all used
to work at Drew Estate night and
that we're all.
No, it was.
It was solely, it was supposed
to solely be like media guys and
like really close friends.
That's.
Hector thanked everybody for
coming.
You mentioned the Power Podcast.
You know, yeah.
It was cool.
That was actually pretty.
I think that was probably the
best part of the whole.
Thing he did call down to earth
or down to earth?
Down to earth.
Which is funny.
Yeah, but did Jerry and Gio?
Yeah.
Our by far was hilarious.
Funny is for.
Hilarious, man.
We have a we had a great time
with them.
They they told us about this
crackhead that they see all the
times and his crackhead fill.
And apparently this guy, he, you
know, him and his girlfriend.
This is how we got addicted to
crack.
And I'm going to, I'm not going
to do this story any justice, so
I'll just fucking run through it
real quick.
Apparently they both wound up
blowing Mickey Rourke in Las
Vegas or some shit.
Allegedly.
Allegedly, of course.
And that's how they turned the
crack.
And then also needs to crack it.
I don't know how how a went to
be but you.
Know have you seen Make it
regularly?
Plastic jewelry is little rough.
So the dude's a mess.
And apparently they're like, oh,
we'll get him to do a blip for
Scar House.
This podcast they give him like
5 bucks or something.
Oh, perfect.
Yeah.
I'm like, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I'll give, I'll give you a
little, a little piece of the
media night, OK with Jerry.
So I'm sitting there and Eric
has been.
Oh, Jerry and Jill were
obviously they were there, but
they weren't in any of the
photos.
Yeah, that was our there last
night there.
So Eric's like talking like
maybe 5 feet away from me and
Jerry sent right next to me and
Gio and Jerry's been on like
this kick.
I was like, hey, you wanna smoke
crack like the?
Whole time, right?
I like dude, stop.
Not why?
Eric's talking.
And he's like, well, maybe he
wants to smoke crack.
I'm like, dude, please, just do
you want to hear you?
Jerry and Gio are fucking
hilarious.
Yeah, yeah, they really are.
And they're really good guys.
Yeah, they're awesome, bro.
And it's funny because.
Because I think, Skip, somebody
was giving me a hard time.
I was like, what do you just
pick up scragglers along the
way?
I'm like, yeah, I guess you know
what happens when you travel
around and you meet somebody
that you like, You just become
friends.
I don't, you know, it's when we
went to Buffalo, they were good
dudes.
I hung out with them the
majority of the time.
You know, they were doing the
podcast.
I'm like, yeah, of course I'll
go on And we know we had a good
time talking.
And then we just kind of
developed a friendship, you
know, so.
That happens.
That happens more often than
not, you know?
Yeah.
What's even funnier though, is
they always say, hey, so you
know, if anybody ever asked me
where to buy scars, I never
recommend Cigar Hustler.
I'm like, cuz I never want a
retailer to think that now that
we're friends, they're gonna buy
from me, right?
No, no, you're not gonna know.
Where you buy if?
That's where they you know, I
won't have it.
If it's my shit, I won't have
it.
They'll have it first, right?
You know?
So go and support your
retailers, man.
Don't be stupid.
Yeah, it's funny like every time
I took Jerry and Jerry and Geo
around to each person, like I
took them over to Justin, you
know, everybody.
Every time we'd go to somebody
that like you guys smoking
cigars or just working out, I
was like oh, this is a post on
security.
It was all all the security for
past on you.
Yeah.
And it's nice to walk around a
little bit of an entourage.
Not going to lie.
Feels good.
You usually leave Buzzy Woody
far behind.
You know, I had a squad.
It was like if Mikey walked in
the back of us.
I told him.
I was like, dude, this looked
like one of those UFC entrances.
We all got the little tags and
stuff.
Like Geo looked bigger than you.
He's definitely gained some
size.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's deltany work, though,
right?
Yeah.
He got so mad.
What's so like?
I'm looking at him.
I said, hey, listen, you gotta
focus more on your delta, which
gives you a little more
structure.
Like, I was being honest, right?
I wasn't trying.
To try to be just critiquing
him.
Yeah, just trying to give him
help him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What?
Jerry took that and fucking ran
without.
What's up, small delt.
I mean, just continued to hammer
this port.
I'm like Geo.
I am so sorry, dude.
That was not.
I didn't.
Mean to mention.
Didn't that was not you know?
Oh, and every time when I was
doing met somebody like Eric
Espinoza and Nick, well, he's
like Dylan.
He's like, yeah, this guy's over
here on Royds, like talking
about Geo.
And he's calling him Trend and
fucking D Ball and all types of
shit nice fucking.
He's just.
You know.
If I had a question, I lost it
so.
I made sure that I gave it back
to Jerry every once in a while,
right?
You know, And then Geo would
look at me like, what?
Why are you doing that?
I'm like, listen, he Tees off on
you all the fucking time.
Don't worry, I'll even it up a
little bit.
You know, Geo is like the boots
of the of the of the.
Oh, it's.
Not Caleb.
Maybe when they're all together,
maybe because Jerry was bored
that Caleb wasn't there, so he
just went Well, Jerry and Geo
are partners on the yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, they'll call me on duty
sometimes.
Yeah, so they're together the
most.
So.
But they're awesome men.
Well, who's Jerry?
Jerry says he's me.
Jerry says.
No way.
That's what he did.
That's what he said.
Geo is you.
I'm Mary from.
Physical standpoint, Geo is
definitely more me, right,
right.
But I would say Jerry is
probably more me as far as his.
Position.
Yeah.
Just on the show and yeah, where
he's at, I would say Geo is more
you, Yeah, and Caleb is more
boots.
Jerry is super, super outspoken
like.
He doesn't shut.
There is no filter with him.
Yeah, kind of like me.
He's a cop.
So I mean talks to weirdos all
day long.
I.
Didn't expect some of the stuff
he was saying when we would like
go to different booths, like,
I'm not going to talk about
this, I'll talk about the
Patreon, but I'll give you a
little bit.
We went over to Nova.
Right.
Yeah, the the lady.
Jerry is on a different level.
Look, there are just some things
that we're not going to say to
thousands and thousands of
people.
I'd rather, I'd rather
intimately tell it to the 15 to
20 that I know aren't going to
go to town with it, you know,
And that's why we're holding
some of the stuff back.
So yeah.
What time we on?
38.
You can wrap it up.
OK, well.
There's a couple things the the
news that came out of the the
PCA we talked about a little bit
last week, part of it.
But they're going to New Orleans
next year, yeah.
We called that.
We fucking called that six
months ago on the show.
But wasn't there something wrong
when they had it there before?
Did you and Greg didn't like it
or something?
Well, the one bad part about it
is that everybody is kind of
separated and shit, right?
You know?
Because you can only smoke.
At the convention and in cigar.
Well, they're lifting that for
the whole thing.
Over the city, Yeah.
So you can smoke outside and
then look.
If you notice, 1/2 Will covered
that that latest legislation was
lifted on specific times for
cigars.
In New Orleans, I thought that
was just inside the cigar shop.
I don't think so.
I think that it's lifted all the
way around.
No one's gonna give you a hard
time.
And somebody said to me.
You have a New Orleans can be
dangerous.
I'm like, everywhere could be
dangerous.
Like, don't.
Just don't be drunk and stupid
and turn into a dark alley, you
know?
Meanwhile, next day, hostage
situation at Caesar's fucking
palace.
Someone gets grabbed, he blows
out the fucking window and he's
launching shit out the window.
Yeah, yeah, So.
I didn't even make the news
here.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
So.
So I'm like, yeah.
So good luck with that.
You know what I mean?
Look.
If you're stupid, you can find
yourself in a bad situation
anywhere.
Yeah, so don't find yourself in
a bad situation.
I believe me.
As far as the PCA is concerned,
I would like to get the fuck out
of Vegas.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
You know, they they've also
flirted with Nashville.
They're also flirting with
Tampa.
I would love Tampa.
Tampa would be great.
You know.
Yeah, that would be.
Why not?
Because that's a cigar town,
right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They tried it in Orlando once,
but that, I mean Orlando, so not
smoke friendly.
And you know, there aren't that
many locations where you can go
and.
Write Tampa or Miami would be
perfect.
Except what's his name?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck that guy.
And they're cutting out the the
half day at the end.
They are cutting out the half.
Today.
Yeah, which makes sense.
That makes sense.
Somebody goes the last day
anyway.
Well, the hard part though, is,
is your booth breakdown.
That's the only thing that's
going to be an issue because you
got to wait for the crates, you
got to wait for all this
bullshit, and then you got, you
know, unless you pay the union
workers to do it.
But the problem is, especially
when it comes to the realm of
stuff, all of that stuff is
extremely delicate and you don't
want to see just jammed into a
spot right, you know, and not
put back properly.
It's probably going to change if
it goes in New Orleans or
somewhere else, right?
Because the union workers are
different there.
Or no, it's the same shit.
Couldn't.
I don't know.
There's a difference.
I talk about, couldn't they?
So it closes on the third day
and then the morning the 4th.
Stead of being 1/2 day, they
start bringing out all the
crates that morning or the
night.
Before, yeah, they could do
that.
You can so when.
You come, yeah, you come in on
the 4th day and all your crates
are sitting there waiting on
you.
Right.
That would be perfect.
That would be the best idea.
Well, if you guys want to use
that, feel free.
Write that down.
I tried to get Caleb to be Scott
Pierce, but he said he's not
fast on his feet.
He couldn't think.
He couldn't do that well.
That make it funny.
He's not that.
Because I'm not that fast in my
feet, I don't think I could do
it.
It would have been funnier.
You're right.
You had no idea what the answer
the question would have it.
You want to talk about the ride
home?
Sure, what happened on the ride
home?
Oh, nothing.
You guys had no delays on the
way out and no delays on the way
back.
Oh yeah, everybody was bitching
about that shit and we were
perfect.
Could you had the early morning
flight after that the airport
locked down for a little while
here?
It was a crown heads.
Everybody from crown heads had a
delay.
Ben Lee this morning was 22
hours at the airport.
So glad we did.
He was, he goes.
Nobody else is here.
The curse is real.
The last guy out doesn't get
out.
Well, Carney, he made his flight
a little early, and then he got
stuck in Atlanta.
On the way back, yeah.
Who the fuck made his travel
planes in the way out?
He stopped like 9 times when he
was flying.
Did he?
He kept checking in different
airports all over the country.
Torn in the world.
I asked him, like, who the hell
does your flight arrangements?
I'm going to tell you a little
life hack, and I said this to my
brother as we got out because
it's because Delta has like a
two leg.
They all have two legs, whether
it's United Delta, unless you
want to suck it up and jump on a
frontier plane, which I'm not
fucking doing right because I
will be brutally in pain.
Delta can There's one of two
ways you can get back to
Florida.
One is you fly all the way to
Atlanta, then Atlanta, Orlando,
or you do Salt Lake, Utah, Utah
to Orlando.
I'm actually going further away.
I am a fan of the Utah to
Orlando.
Yeah, it's it's nice.
Because here's what happens.
There's no fucking crazy
weather.
That's right.
There's no absurd in this.
And if you got stuck in Utah,
it's a beautiful fucking
airport, right?
It's that, you know, everything
is clean.
It's not like the cesspool when
you land in Vegas, you know?
Yeah.
Did we stop there in TPE?
Is that where we went?
So like, I went there one time
with you.
Well, PCA last year.
Oh, PCA last.
Alright, we go to thought like
so we.
Yeah, I think we did.
We.
It was one of them, either PCA
or TP.
We have definitely landed in
Utah, but yeah, it was PCA last
year cuz Adrian was with us cuz
you Oh yeah, you guys stopped
off and you ate food and like
the Bojangles or some shit
restaurant.
Yeah, yeah, cuz I have a magnet.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Oh, so we had the ride home, One
of the bad things that happened.
Yeah.
Me and fucking Mikey got stuck
next to each other.
Oh my God.
Going to Salt Lake.
Oh, right, somebody's in.
Like an hour and 30 minutes.
Yeah, the flight seats, the
seats were tough to get on the
way back, so we did.
So the only ones were available
were Comfort Plus and they
didn't charge us for him, which
is nice.
But we were emergency exit and I
took the window.
No one was in front of me.
I'm like, this will be fine,
I'll just deal with it.
And Boots was in the middle and
there was a flight attendant in
on the aisle.
Seat It was right where you walk
out the door.
And she was a pro.
She was a pro because Food says,
hey, well, you know, sorry if I
kind of encroach on you a little
bit.
And she's like, don't you used
to keep your arm on that side
like she was she's.
Not having.
This tall, you know.
She had plenty of.
Seasoned veteran, right.
And then.
But then Boots instantly kind of
cowered back.
He's like, OK, what's up?
So I fucking died over here.
I'm, like, cold.
Yeah, I should have trained with
yours.
It was not comfort.
Plus, no, she wasn't fucking
moving.
Where was Greg?
Was in another window.
Another window?
Yeah.
At least gonna split you two up
though, yeah?
Did.
It's Ronnie.
So we ended up oh.
Hey, I'm podcasting right now.
Bye.
Yeah, I'm gonna have to cancel
the event up here.
We're really busy about a lot of
stuff.
Was he there?
Did he show?
Did he check out?
Are we doing the lake?
What are are we doing the
release there?
That's all.
Yeah, I need to iron that.
Out.
He just called to cancel.
I need to iron that out with
him.
Was he at the show?
Yeah.
Yeah.
We didn't give him a ride this
time.
Obviously, right.
No one hear about that.
Bret Fry had a gummy, got all
fucking deep on me, started
asking me some serious questions
and I'm like, Oh my God, and he
he he fucking affected me.
I'm like.
Did he bring the yellow shirts?
The yellow pea?
I did.
Oh, I thought.
I thought maybe he brought.
No, I gave him everybody in the
booth.
Got the gold piece.
Right.
I saw he had one.
So I thought like last year he
brought all the hustler.
No, I made sure that we got him
one extra 1.
Oh, that's nice, Yeah.
Bret Fry is a great guy, bro.
Yeah, yeah, he was in a lot of
people's pictures too.
He really is second most
photographed guy at the PCA.
Right.
I am a little angry though.
Why are you angry?
About the the little post thing.
Oh, that's great.
We need to cover that.
Why so?
So I sent an order to Brett Frey
and I just drew him a big
picture.
Of a Dick.
The Dick.
Yeah, and he said, well, you
know, someone Palmer and Mike
asked me what do what is the
boots right, what boots eats
right or what Phil eats right.
And they sent me this.
On this paper, so he.
Oh, you just sent it.
That wasn't part of the joke.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, so he thought that I he
actually asked that question.
Why would he ask that question
and why would?
Maybe he's gonna send him a gift
or something.
No, I just drew him and said
stuff.
Before.
So he's so upset.
He's been upset about this for
weeks.
Oh my, for weeks.
And I'm like, dude, you think I
would fucking do that?
So then, Mitch?
Mitch Smith.
I thought.
I thought you had too.
I thought he sent.
Like what?
What does Boots like to eat?
Like he wants to send him
something else again because we
shit on him all the time.
Like nobody sent him anything.
I'm going to send him his
favorite Twinkies or Ho Hoes or
whatever it is he likes to eat.
Well.
He was in a picture of a Dick.
I will tell you, Bret Fry did.
He gave me a bundle of Bdp's.
Oh, and wanted me to hand all
those out at the.
Thank you.
Mr. Fry gave me a I saw the
video.
Of who shot you?
Oh.
By the way, you have a cigar for
me from Be so Horny, he made.
But you have a video I.
Don't know why he posted that.
See, he becomes a brand owner
and now he's like thank you.
Sure you give this.
I kept telling him as I dude,
I'm out here supporting you.
Tell her by the interview,
you're a great brand owner.
You sold out quick, right?
Interview him.
And then he's like, at one point
he's like, hey, I'm talking
here, can you back up?
I'm like, Oh my.
God dude, he got so upset who's
was so upset so when I saw him
with.
With Tyler later I said hey just
want to know you pissed him off
by doing that.
He's like oh, I didn't mean to
so so he's been upset for weeks
about this whole Dick thing that
I sent to Brett and I didn't I
didn't do it intentionally
right.
So he sends to Mitch Smith this
letters and make sure you say
that Mike and Mike something
about.
I saw something.
Something eat Dicks or something
And I'm like, what the fuck is
wrong with you?
Well, I've been upset about
this.
Oh, it was in his prize pack,
yeah.
Yeah, I'm like, you didn't even
give me a.
You didn't even give me like,
Nah, he wouldn't do that.
You didn't even ask.
You didn't even fucking bring it
out to me.
You did.
I thought it was funny.
Why would I do?
That see.
Because it was funny.
See, he thought it too.
You would do that.
I wouldn't draw penis, but I
would have said something else.
This is what?
Yeah.
Yeah, I would.
Have I ever done a fucking prank
to you?
You know, when you said it like
that, yeah, I thought about, I
was like, no.
Exactly right.
Now that you explaining it
right, it's like the.
Fuck.
But at the time I couldn't
figure out if it was Palmer no
Mikey.
I was.
No, I don't.
I didn't know anything about it
till he saw the photo.
I was simply sending Brett a
penis.
I heard him say something with
me about I'm drawing a penis,
Greg, don't bother me or
something like that.
Yeah, I figured.
So then, I texted Brett.
Send a penis.
After me and Mike, you're having
this conversation.
I was like, you tricked me.
Like you, motherfucker.
For weeks I've not slept.
I thought I was like, I've been
so much trouble.
Now I.
See penises in my sleep now.
I've been so upset.
Like you owe me.
It's hard keeping the children
in line when you're at PCA.
You know this guy leaves his
phone on the fucking plane.
He lost his Chaz fucking well.
I don't even know the guy's
name.
Yeah, he left his poster in the
bathroom, you know?
The guy is just a mess.
I almost had it back.
You know what Tia goes through
now?
I mean, holy shit, it's a
fulltime gig, right?
Well, there's a lot going on on
the plane, bro.
What's cool?
Sitting for four.
Hours.
What's cool is Jerry.
Yeah.
Well, that was where we met.
Judah, the Met.
So.
So we sit down at this fucking
in the terminal or whatever, and
I look back and I'm like, I
don't know enough.
I'm like, damn, he's a
basketball player and I've seen
him in Salt Lake.
Yeah.
And I'm like.
I don't know in Vegas.
Yeah, we're in Vegas like I've
fucking seen him.
So I mean, watched a lot of the
playoffs, but he's either a
Laker or he's a magic guy.
I think he's a magic guy.
So I go to look it up, right?
And of course the fucking
Internet is not working right.
Yeah.
So I yeah.
So I can't get, I can't look it
up.
I'm sleeping, but Boots is.
I guess he's sitting directly
behind me.
Yeah, so Boots was sitting
across where he where he could,
excuse me, stare at him, and
then he switched seats so he
could sit behind right?
And he could sprawl out a little
bit.
So I'm like, man, I'm pretty
sure that that's a magic guy.
So then we get on the plane and
I'm like, did you see the, the
the basketball player?
And he's like, no, who?
And I was like.
Well, because I said that one
guy.
I said I know who that guy is.
Yeah, he works for the magic.
And there was because he had
like a I call him the handler,
but right the the relations.
Guy, he was wearing all white
and he got pizzas.
Like, be careful, bro.
I mean, white pants, you're
quite the gamble there, my
friend, right?
So yeah, the dude you were
talking to, I think he's a
handler for magic or something.
I said, oh, well, I think that
there was a magic player.
There is like, I'm like, he's
the guy with the Mohawk.
So who he starts going nuts.
So I'm like, don't worry, he's
going to be on this plane.
So he comes out.
Now I said who it was and he
goes, oh, that's what's his
name.
Jonathan Isaac.
He goes, oh, that's Jonathan
Isaac.
I said, Oh yeah, I look about
me.
I'm like, yeah, that's him
connect to the plane at that
point that's totally him because
all he was a seminal blah, blah.
Like he said to roll only so he
walks in and he's giddy as a
schoolgirl and he's not saying
shit.
I go, go knows and he's like,
yeah, and I said magic too.
I said some, but it was so
faint, yeah.
I love.
I love you.
So.
Well, another one walked in too
before him, though.
Yeah, he goes.
Oh, shit, that was.
Window Carter.
Window Carter, he's.
Just the name of all your That
was Window Carter.
So, so we see him in Utah and I
I texted him like, hey, that the
ballplayer is right, right by
us.
And then I turned back and boots
is. 50 feet away from a city
second, he's giving me the look
like I see him, I see.
Him.
So this poor fucking so Boots is
talking to his poor wife on the
phone and he gets close to him
like I gotta go, hangs up the
phone.
Yeah, and asks for a picture.
Well, I'm like.
Well here I'll detail a little
bit better.
I'm like, Facetiming her, right?
I was like, yeah, yeah, it's
going good.
And then here comes Jonathan
Eisen.
I was like, hey, can I get a,
can I get a picture, Like, real
low?
Because I didn't want to learn
everybody.
Holy shit, yeah.
Yeah.
So then he's like, yeah, sure.
He comes over, He's like, stand
next to me.
He's like, hey, I got to go,
babe.
Bye.
Click.
He goes, Did you just hang up on
your wife?
He was like, yeah, dude, sorry.
I need to get a picture with
you.
It's.
Such a it'll be fine, she'll
understand.
That's crazy, man.
I have your picture next to my
bed.
So I was Greg.
We didn't talk about Gregor.
I was Gregor, I think.
Did he show up on time?
Because the other other, the
other king said that he was late
all the time.
Well, the the difference is that
I don't care because he can't
affect my plans if we're staying
on base.
Right, right, right.
So I could tell you that there
are a bunch of times where he
was calling me and I was in the
middle of something.
I just didn't answer.
I'm like, I fucking there's no
way I'm going to.
Be calling you from the other
side of the booth?
Just where?
If he was somewhere else, kind
of, you know, even if he was,
yeah, I mean, I could do it.
I'm my fucking name would call.
Well, I mean, you saw it a
seeing, seeing X.
Saying it was taking on the
plane, Yes, that was nice.
You know what was great?
I'm going to tell you it wasn't
day one, but day 2.
Matula had figured it out.
He's like, oh, OK, I need to
sell to like, yeah.
Yeah, no shit, yeah.
So part of the team.
He started kind of working it a
little bit, right.
You know, he was kind of back
into like a groove, like it took
a while for him to get to it.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's
exactly the case.
He did write one order this
complete wood.
It's there's no.
There's no CC info.
It's just a fucking business
cards to follow up with.
I'm like, OK, that'll work out
great.
I got a call.
I don't even have a cell phone
number.
Hey, so you placed this?
Order the name of the store.
He's like who?
Fuck you.
I'm going.
To tell you, that was my that
was my first time ever meeting
Matool, even talking like I've
never heard him on the phone
anything, right?
He's a great guy, man.
He's a very nice guy, yeah.
I'm going to tell you, man, I
like him.
We have.
We've built A-Team along the
way.
Yeah, You know what I mean?
Between Jeff Matool.
Kind of, Sean.
I mean, Sean's just a.
Long time did Sean check out at
dinner?
Any night I go to the bathroom,
he never comes back.
He disappears.
From time to time, it's fun to
have him around, but he's, you
know, it's not like he's not,
you know, but we I can sit down,
you know, I can talk with Jeff
and say, all right, here's where
we fucked up.
Here's where we what we can do
better.
I can look at the tool and say,
OK, here's where we fucked up,
here's what we can do better.
And you know, and I'm not just
saying this is where you fucked
up, I'm saying this is where we
fucked up, right?
Here's how we need to do things
better, right, And holding
myself.
As equally accountable as
everybody else in the party, you
know, the only one I struggle
with is Greg is just oblivious
in all fucking life.
I'm saying still can't get him
to park out back after all these
years.
I'm like, will you park the
counter?
Touch with the cigar.
Initial like you look like a
douche.
Parking out front, you look like
a douche.
You know, I like the, I like the
booth where you've got Postanya,
you know Phos Row Fable and then
you've got Roma on the side of
us, right.
I I feel like that booth to me
is just.
So well organized has such a
good array of people, you know,
attitudes, everything.
Like it's just an awesome booth
to go to.
You know when you go to all the
other ones and you, you know,
you got your couple of guys that
you know and they got good
attitudes everywhere else is
just kind of like a zombie.
But when you come over to the
room, it's like everything's
clean, everything's organized,
everybody's chipper, you know,
everything's great, you know,
it's yeah, it's cool to talk to
everybody and.
It's great to work just fucking
hand in hand with him, just to
be so fucking dialed in.
Like I could go to Michael, you
know, and talk about we could
talk about a retailer.
We could talk about what's going
down or whatever the case may
be, if he has an issue with
something and I can help sort it
out or vice versa.
Or if he thinks that someone
might be a fit, like you need to
talk with them or whatever the
case may be And you know John as
well.
And lightweight, heavy to you
know.
All of those guys are such an
integral part of this whole
thing.
This whole operation and being
on the same page with all of
them just makes.
I There was no fixtures of John
D Oliver either.
No, you know, I don't.
I don't know what to tell you
with that.
I mean, at least you were.
There were pictures of Sean.
I did.
You know, I love it when when
people ask me for a photo that
happens every once in a while,
right?
Hey, can I get a picture with
you?
I'm like, yeah, man, you know,
like, certainly.
I just don't feel like I'm that
guy.
I'm going to tell you, it was
hard to get.
I was trying to take a picture
with him at one point, but he
was so busy writing orders,
talking to people.
I mean, do they had an
appointment like every 15?
Oh.
I'm sure that he's.
Your dad A guy?
Yeah, he, I was going to say
he's the guy now.
And then even when he had some
down time, it wasn't like real
down time.
It was like now we're breaking
down the booth and we're doing
all this stuff and couldn't
really get a moment with him.
And he didn't really go out cuz
he had his other half was there,
his wife.
Yeah, well, you gotta have.
That she works for Rocky.
Rocky.
That's right.
Yeah.
You got to have reasonable
expectations.
Like, there's just no way that
you're gonna sit and follow and
hang out with somebody with the
whole time.
It's just, you know, right?
Sometimes you won't get to
really see them at all, right?
You know, like I had intentions
of bullshitting with Booth,
right?
That didn't happen, you know?
I tried to bring him over at one
point, but he he even told me
he's like, dude, he's like I
cannot get away from this booth.
Like, yeah, I had to take him to
the bathroom.
Well, that's a mistake though.
That's a fucking rookie move on
your behalf.
Yeah, I shouldn't have fucking
done that.
That was an hour fucking deal
like we were going to about.
It was literally like maybe 100
feet, 200 feet to the door,
right.
And.
We must have talked to like 20
fucking people.
Yeah, we went to the bathroom
together at the Great Smoke and
I ditched him halfway across.
Exactly.
Just got.
I just got to go.
I don't have time to.
Do this.
You got to realize when you're
like, fuck this, this is at it,
right?
No.
Come with me.
No.
Yeah.
I'm not.
No, I don't have.
That I have to be I'm going I.
Don't have that kind of time,
bro.
People don't want to see me.
I don't need to stop.
I enjoy the time I get to spend
with him because he's, you know,
it's not the Matt Booth
character anymore.
Like, it's, you know, I get to
talk to him about other things
other than just cigars, right?
You just stop it every two
seconds and he has to click back
into character.
Yeah, once we get back to the
booth area, you know, that was,
you know, character area.
But and then Justin Andrews is
there.
He's always a.
Good guy.
I love Justin.
Yeah, he's funny, man.
Like.
Right now he's in the meeting at
this very moment, right?
It's an elite optimization for
releases or?
Something.
Yeah, something.
Organizational that.
Yeah, so.
All right, well, let's let's
wrap this.
Really full show, We do it
within an hour.
Yeah, 58.
So there we go.
See, that was the other thing
Where you guys fucked up is you
didn't do a full hour.
You couldn't hang.
Yeah, you couldn't hold it
without us.
Well, how many times could you
say how many books you read?
Yeah, how many times can you
make fun?
Of you.
Hold on, I read another book
and.
And all the news was stuff about
different cigars.
That's kind of foolish.
You should have.
You should have had like a bowl
of cereal that opened up like.
There's only so much you know,
so much time you can do, only so
many things.
He's had that muscle suit.
We've had that crown for two
years.
Yeah, yeah.
God, I wish you would have
dressed up as Greg on the
regular on the show.
Greg, well, Greg, Greg doesn't
do the show.
Yeah, but wasn't that funny?
When I went over to him, I was
like, hey Greg, you're on the
air.
Yeah, he clammed up.
Like he doesn't like it.
He doesn't do well.
His eyes opened up wider and he
was like.
People are talking.
On the show.
Somebody had to be the real
person to keep the show moving,
Yeah, Otherwise I just was in
your accounting money all.
Right.
Well, let's zip onto the
Patreon, let's get some of this
stuff out of the way and we'll
all right, we'll shore up
everything for next week.
You got it.
Thanks everybody.
Thank you.
Don't miss.
It this is the real PCA info
here.
The the deets all.
Right.
Good bye.
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Title: Cigar Hustlers Podcast - Episode 290: PCA Recap
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Join us for an exhilarating and in-depth discussion as we bring you a captivating recap of the highly anticipated PCA (Premium Cigar Association) Trade Show 2023. In this 290th episode, your hosts dive deep into the vibrant world of premium cigars, unraveling the most exciting highlights and latest trends from the event that all cigar enthusiasts eagerly await.
Tune in to Episode 290 of the Cigar Hustlers Podcast for your ultimate PCA recap experience. Stay informed, inspired, and enriched as we delve into the passion, craftsmanship, and camaraderie that makes the world of premium cigars so extraordinary.