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March 2, 2026· 51m

ACHO Episode 477 What Do You Mean New Whopper?

ACHO Episode 477 What Do You Mean New Whopper?

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Welcome to a Cigar Hustler

podcast episode 477.

Was that going?

Didn't we just go 477 yesterday?

No, it was 476 yesterday.

Are we starting over?

Are we rolling?

What?

I don't know what's going.

On did it record that part?

Maybe, I don't know, redo it

what?

I'm going to do is a guy too.

Fast.

The camera was on Mikey and 321.

Oh, we're counting down like

Preston Show now.

Welcome to a cigar Wrestler

podcast, episode 477.

That's the better show.

I'm Mike Palmer.

Your well, it's your show

anyway, so it's not my show.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host.

And with me today is Phil

Mcguffey, star of the porn

industry.

Really.

What?

He's a big star in the porn

industry.

Oh, really?

Who he's like, fill me up.

Fill me up, buttercup.

Wow.

Phil the Night in Paris and as

my Co host Mikey I've started my

own multi level sports coaching

league step on Gevich.

You have.

No.

Welcome to yes, yes, he's he's

he's at I flag.

I was talking about the other

day I found out.

Oh, he was in the commercial.

He was in the commercial.

I didn't recognize your voice.

You guys know I don't do

anything lucrative.

Well, we do know that.

All right, guys, welcome to the

show.

Mikey.

You just did simply Stogie's.

Yeah.

Yeah, I did it earlier this

week.

Oh, that's right.

It just came out today.

Yeah.

Or this, this will be Monday

show came out last Friday.

OK.

Who's simply stogies?

It's another podcast.

Yeah, he's a good guy.

It's a good show.

Yeah, we met him at PCAI Think

last year.

Oh.

OK.

Yes, I interviewed you briefly

at PCA last year.

Yeah, you did a good job.

Yeah, said a lot of nice things.

Thank you very much.

About you, Yes.

I didn't think you'd hear them.

Obviously he's awkward.

Obviously, yes.

What's the best compliment?

The best form of a compliment is

a compliment that you say behind

somebody's back.

Right.

Yeah, well, they told you I said

several nice things about you

when I was on the show, too.

You better, that's what the

money's for him.

It didn't have to lie to

everybody.

He's not lied to everybody.

He's amazing.

I love.

Somebody, what was it last week?

Somebody said, can't you just

say it's a hostile work

environment?

And I got no, that was years

ago.

We're not allowed to discuss.

Longer permitted to say these

things you want.

To say that's on the list of

words I'm not allowed to say,

All right, on today's show, if I

only had $12.3 million.

God, yes.

It's good to be the king you.

Got to be close.

Poop is I work for you.

Yeah, you've been embezzling

cash since there's no cash to.

Embezzling.

There's plenty of cash to.

Embezzle.

There's no cash to embezzle.

As you said on the show last

night, Skip gets it all.

Skip gets all the money.

Skip gets all the money.

Skip.

Takes my money.

Poop is the new penicillin.

Like that story.

And then in cigars we get new

tacos for Tello, Invades the

Dr., and we've got pirate cigars

coming out.

Again.

Or pirate cigars.

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It's because this is when he

gets no sleep.

The weekend begins.

So does the sports.

When do I get to sleep?

I don't get to sleep at all.

About 20 minutes over there in

that chair.

As soon as your show's over,

it's.

Usually, yeah, I like, I like to

try and do it beforehand.

It's better.

I have more energy.

Or during the show when we're

playing.

Guess the score we have had a

few times.

You've dozed off during the

show.

Yes, tired a lot of comments

today, but a lot of them were on

shorts.

So one of those I, I, you know,

well, somebody said that the

Costco burning down in Mexico

was fake.

Really.

Yeah.

Put out by Costco.

Mexico was fine.

It was the the Costco in Mexico

was fine.

It was some cars, trucks and

motorcycles that were burned in

front of Costco.

Oh, maybe there's hope for that

cartel yet.

So they were eating the hot dogs

while burning cars?

Yeah, makes perfectly good

sense.

Maybe they were cooking the hot

dogs over the cars.

Yeah, it was a cookout.

Cookout Hey man, we need cook

the hot dogs.

Yeah, so I got the.

Cars.

I don't I can't go through all

the short comments.

There's a ton of short comments.

So I just give you comment on

the show I'll.

You know, no good ones.

There's a couple good ones.

Well.

Where are you the good ones

they're.

On shorts I want comments on my

shows.

What do you what did you light

up?

What's Tanya?

Oh.

Yeah.

Is that a Bano or Bradley?

Is it a?

Midday Midday is Habana, Early

day or beginning of the day is

connected.

Midday Habana, end of the day

San Andreas and then

Neanderthal.

Gotcha.

Neanderthal is the greatest

Romacraft cigar, if not the

greatest cigar of all time.

The HN.

Yes.

All right.

Have you heard of the squatty?

We're on with the show.

Then we're just going to move

right on.

Unless you got somebody.

You want a phone call?

No, we'll call Jack again so we

can say bad things about me.

No, that didn't go well.

No, I just accept it now.

You're just good with it.

We just, we've beaten you to a

point where you just.

Accept I don't even fight back

anymore.

Like yes.

Hey, you familiar with Squatty

potty?

Yes.

Do you have a Squatty Potty?

I do not.

Phil, do you have a It seems

like somebody Phil would have Do

you have a Squatty Potty?

No.

That little stool you put in

front of the toilet?

We can raise your legs up so.

Raise your legs up so you poop

better.

Nope, you have a flow with your

poop.

It wasn't in that movie film.

A poop.

Squatty Potty.

Film a poop that porn movie you

did.

No, OK, all right.

The millionaire founder has been

charged in federal court.

Of the Squatty Potty.

Yes, the tell me it's money

laundering.

That'd be amazing.

What?

What?

What?

OK, it's not money laundering.

What is?

You want to try?

You want to try again.

Falsifying Squatty Potty rules.

Tax evasion.

Robert Bobby Edwards.

Oh wait, Epstein.

He's an Epstein guy.

No, we don't.

That would be funny, but no.

We don't, we don't arrest those

people.

We.

Don't arrest those people only

for the I.

Thought this was the first

arrest being made the squatty

potty guy.

As long as long as you brought

that up, there's a rumor that

Ellen DeGeneres is a cannibal

right there.

Oh my, really the?

Amount of trash I have to read

for this show.

That's but Epstein files have

put that that is a myth that is

not true.

She is not a cannibal.

She does not eat people.

Well.

I mean, I mean it.

Made sense when I was reading

it.

You're like, but then I'm like,

no, she eats people.

Well, there was.

I just somebody told me a story

and I don't know if it's true or

not.

About like the Jameson guy, the

like the founder of Jameson

Whiskey.

He would go to a place where he

would watch a person get eaten.

Makes sense?

Does it?

I don't know.

I don't know the guy.

Me neither.

But they show that the one

commercial where the barrel

falls off the boat and he jumps

in after it and then paddles

around.

So maybe.

And then he walks the person get

eaten.

Maybe it was like his thing.

Who knows how true that is?

All right, anyway, back to the

show.

Robert Bobby Edwards, 50, was

arrested for allegedly buying

and receiving countless images

of kiddie porn.

So you start a company, you

bring in your mom, your dad,

your brother, your cousin.

You go on Shark Tank, you hook

up with Lori, what's her name,

and she helps you make $12.3

million.

I have all this money.

What am I going to do?

Oh, why don't you just go on the

Dark Web by Kitty Born.

The children.

Let me look at the children.

Right, so from March 2021 to

November 2025, the US Attorney's

Office in the District of Utah.

Are you having problems in Utah?

Announced Monday.

The entrepreneur, whose product

promises to help users get off

the toilet, was indicted by the

federal grand jury on February

10th and arrested February 12th.

The FBI Cyber Division set up a

sting.

Went into one of these dark web

chat rooms where they're all

watching Kitty porn, right?

He was there.

There's a chat room of this.

Well, they say into a room.

I mean, I don't think, I don't

know if it was like into a real

room.

Had to be in some type of.

Or they're into a chat room and

his handle was Squatty Potty

woman I was.

Just going to say that.

You know I mean.

Dude, you took that.

You took the words right out of

my mouth and say what was his

username?

Squatty Potty.

Yeah, they say it was a chat

group for a chat room or they

went into a room.

They don't say, but they say

they saw everybody watching it

and he was one of them, right?

So I don't know if somebody

recognized him from Shark Tank

or something or I mean, dude.

Did that person get in trouble

that reported them 'cause they

were in there?

No, no, the FBI went in there.

They were the FBI.

They were the FBI.

So they set up a sting.

He bought some from the from the

FBI and poop and the pokey he

goes.

Dude, that's so weird.

Let's.

Get him and the subway guy to

fight to the death.

Oh, you know what I mean.

Oh, Jared.

Yeah, he didn't he get out.

I think he's out now.

No.

I think he's out.

They don't throw these people

under the jail.

No, no, Jared only got like 10

years or something with that.

He didn't get long.

Yeah, he didn't get much so.

But he did lose all the money

from Subway.

Subway still in prison.

You said Subway Still in prison.

Jared from Subway.

Jared Fogle?

Yes, he's still in prison.

Oh, he's still in.

Prison.

How many more years?

As early as 20, he's serving a

15 year, 8 month sentence. 15

years.

So he's expected to be released

2029.

Three more years.

He can finally get AI.

Don't understand how it doesn't

go, how it's not instant death,

you know what I mean?

Well.

That's what they say.

Child molesters and things get

get well, maybe Kitty porn's a

different level for prisoners.

I don't.

Know it's bad enough for me.

That's terrible.

Somebody beat him up.

How?

About we go after the people

making the Kitty porn that's.

A good that too, yeah.

Yeah, them too.

Tim Tebow's trying to solve all

of this, by the way.

He's on the case.

Oh, is he?

Is that his new thing?

Yeah.

Yeah, with the with the seal

group.

Oh, Seal Team Nine, no.

I don't think they have a

number.

They're just like the Seal team.

We kill Kitty porn people.

Excels.

With electric.

Kiddie porn people child

trafficking they they do child

they.

Child trafficking, there it

goes.

Child trafficking, it's a whole

different thing.

It's kind of similar.

Though that's pretty cool.

Yeah, well, they're.

Not making movies, they're just

trading them.

Oh, like Pokémon?

No, they what do you?

Think they're doing though.

Well, not videodaping.

You don't know that.

No, I don't know that.

Yeah.

Wait a second, do you know that?

No, I don't know that.

Why would I know that?

All right, we're on camera.

What's going on here?

Yeah.

Don't start insinuations.

Right.

I'm the third most famous person

in the cigar industry.

Are you?

That's what you said, yes.

Is that what he said on the on

the podcast?

Yes, Fuente, Bobby Newman, and

then me.

Oh wow.

Yeah, there you go.

Palmer did he say anything about

both of us?

Woody, who were you?

No, sorry Buzz, you weren't

mentioned.

Wow.

Well, I have not watched the

whole show, but no, you weren't

mentioned.

Wow.

He did mention Greg briefly.

That was like a.

Week ago, I don't remember

anything I said.

I wonder what year I started

getting mentioned.

Probably never.

Oh, that's very.

Hard one day when I got to keep

keep dangling the character.

Maybe one day.

One day, yeah.

Don't say ever.

He'll just leave.

It's going to it's, you know

it's going to happen.

Push.

Your own tan buttons.

It's been 15 years.

No one's your.

Name is say my real name.

You won't even acknowledge me as

a person.

Oh God.

Oh God, OK.

Alright, moving on.

Yeah, it's twisted and.

I think he's a bad man.

He's in jail.

And no more Squatty Potties.

I guess you know what?

And all of you people that own

the Squatty Potty help help your

contributing factor to this.

$12.3 million worth of squatty

potties.

I hope he can buy kiddie porn.

I hope your flow is was worth

it.

What's crazy is that he's being

thrown in jail and none of the

Epstein stuff is still.

Is it?

Is it crazy?

I mean, I would think that

anybody in the Epstein thing

would have been confronted and

arrested or detained.

There's been headlines about the

Clintons, but nothing exciting.

Yeah, I saw Hillary said that

she knows nothing about Epstein.

Right.

Yeah, that was the Hillary

thing.

Jeffrey never heard of her.

Jeffrey Epstein, I don't like

Jews.

I don't know him.

Oh my God.

Wow, she said.

Allegedly, I just heard check

that box.

What I heard.

No, no, there's nothing about

racial slurs.

Level 2 it's.

Just comedy.

It's just comedy.

Just comedy might not be good

comedy, but it's still comedy.

It's.

Funny.

It's good people.

Like, oh God, some people have

some people.

Some people come to our show for

that type of humor, Michael.

OK, baby you.

Don't want to make Hillary

threats?

This.

This could be your last episode.

Come get me.

Oh yeah, I'm alone in the I'm

whatever.

I'm looking at the light.

I'm alone in the house all

weekend.

Come get me.

That's what Maduro said, buddy,

and we came and got him.

True.

Yeah, so, you know, beware.

Of cowards, you won't come.

Beware what you wish for.

What are you going to do this

whole week in Palmer?

Nothing.

I'm doing nothing at all.

He's going to stab himself seven

times in the back and we're

called suicide.

I'm going to accidentally hang

myself after I slit my own

throat, yeah.

Don't say that.

There's a big tree in the

backyard.

Oh my God, All right, customers

complained, so the king

answered.

They're redoing the Whopper.

What the Are you serious?

Yes.

Why?

Customers complained they

didn't.

They don't like the Whopper.

They want a new Whopper.

Why?

What's wrong with the Whopper?

They don't like the bun.

What?

Burger King, home of the

Whopper, is making a first

change to its best selling menu

item in nearly ten years after

consumers complained the Whopper

replace its bun with more

premium one.

They use a new, creamier

mayonnaise they have.

It's in a new box.

Instead of pep, instead of

paper, they're making a new

Whopper.

It's in a box.

And now it's going to be coming

in a box like a Big Mac, I

guess.

I don't like any of this.

I like it the way it was.

You like it the way it was?

Yeah, well, we were supposed to

have some here to sample on the

show.

And what happened?

Somebody fell through, but we

they're on their way.

Well, I had some stuff going on,

I mean.

His wife hurt her ankle or

something went to the.

Hospital.

Oh my God.

She's only pregnant.

Yeah, right.

I know exactly.

She's only with child.

Right.

And she went with Dana.

So couldn't Dana take care?

Of it, I mean.

So he was he was on Whopper

detail.

He was on Whopper detail, yeah.

And he blew.

It he blew it.

I would have crushed A whopper

right now.

Oh, you're going to.

It's coming.

It's coming.

They're coming.

Doordashed it.

Yeah, he.

Door He door dashed it from the

bathroom.

OK that I told Parma to stall

but he sucks at Stalin.

Well I mean I dragged out the

guy with the kiddie porn as long

as I could.

I got accused of having to know

what stuff was.

Did she really hurt her ankle?

No, no, no, she really it's

pretty swollen, OK.

Yeah, at Bagel King, she slipped

down a bagel.

Because she had just left here.

Oh, did she?

Yeah, she said.

She went to go step out the car

and when she stepped down on her

step, it kind of moved and she

slipped and she fell down to the

ground and.

She fell to the ground.

It's a little swollen.

They call an ambulance.

That's not good.

No, no, she well, I told her I

was going to call one, but she

was like, no, that's

embarrassing.

She's like, I just have Dana

drive me.

You have to do your podcast.

I said.

I said, just let me get this out

of the way and then I'll come to

the hospital.

You know I'm going.

To say I said I said it on a lot

yesterday's episode, I'm gonna

say it again.

You know, she knows who she

married, you know what I mean?

Like, this is not, you know, and

I hope her ankle's OK because

this Friday you're going to be

down at the pub, DJ.

Yeah.

Exactly.

Oh, that's right, you can't walk

at.

Night like, are you shopping

around the house?

Are you good?

You got this because I got to

go.

I got to go with the pub.

The pub needs me.

I got to.

Make a little DJ boots.

Look, if people don't think

we're dedicated at this point,

like she's literally going to

the hospital right now, yeah,

we're dedicated.

This is this is your moment to

be dedicated.

Yeah, yeah.

Which is honorable.

Thank you.

Worst thing that happened to me,

What dog died and I showed up?

Yep, put the dog down.

Think that was the toughest one,

like, all right, let's go

record.

What about you?

Dad died.

And you still we recorded that

day, Yeah.

We talked about my dad on the

show.

Yeah, let me talk about my dad

for the whole show.

Listen.

That was a hard show.

I don't mean to nitpick here,

but think you won on that.

Just for the record, just

slipped.

We increased along the way

slipped ankle dead dog dead dad

and the winner is and boots

still feel the the.

Only other thing we can do is

one of the three of us die we.

Still do the show.

Oh my.

God, yeah.

During the show.

I'll do it.

I'll have a heart attack.

I'll do it.

I'll be fine.

Anyway, the burger's gonna roll

out in 7000.

Restaurants nationwide this

week.

So we have the original Whopper

and then when the new one comes,

we will get the new one.

OK, Unless they show up in a

box.

Unless we got lucky and then the

local place got a new one.

I doubt it.

I doubt, they said.

You know what, Deltona?

You know where we need the new

ones, Deltona, We're.

Gonna do it I.

Don't know there was one time

that like Deltona was the.

Whopper capital of the industry.

No, it was like the testing

ground.

Was that them calling saying

they're here?

Supposedly McDonald's making

like a new sandwich called the

Arch or something.

Oh yeah, yeah, I heard about

that.

When it comes out, we'll have

one.

Yeah, you know, what we should

do is we should just pivot and

just copy everything Coop does

and just make a food show.

Oh.

Just make a food show.

Yeah, it's just we're going to

cover food.

He's almost there.

This is exciting.

All right, well, the enhanced

Whopper will cost more.

It'll charge the franchise $4000

more a year, but they think they

will sell more of them.

It'll.

Cost them the the franchise.

Franchisees an extra $4000 a

year, so each each location will

charge, they're going to charge

them $4000.

Probably because of the box

instead of the wrapper.

Yeah, the box instead of the.

Paper the I don't know about all

that reinforced bun.

Sounds like it's a money grab

for the corporate power you know

well, you know it's good.

Good Mayo is on this one.

It's extra creamy.

We make it for you.

It's special.

We take the bun and we make it a

very good.

It's a very good it's a brioche.

It's a bun.

It's a croissant.

With the 17 little things on it.

There's little things, Sesame.

Seeds.

Sesame seeds.

Thank you.

I got the name in.

Seeds.

Is it 17 sesame seeds on?

It it's 17.

Is that what the song says?

No, it is.

The song I know you know the

song, Palmer.

It's a Big Mac bro.

It's a Big Mac the song.

To all beef Patty special.

Sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickled

onions on the steps to eat bun.

I knew, I knew he knew the song.

I got the I could do the first

two I can.

Do the whole thing.

They're advising their local

owners not to raise the prices.

Oh good, so now we're squeezing

them.

Inflation weary consumers

suggest that the investment will

drive up sales so more.

Hey, we don't want to get crazy

here, I want you to sell the

more expensive item for the same

price.

But and then give me $4000 to

the king.

Man, you know, now you should

see what happens on the cigar

industry.

This is.

Same thing.

It's terrible.

Yeah, prices go up every six

months.

Right.

For some companies, every three

months.

I'm curious to see Dr. prices

increase if they're doing that

15% blanketing tear of yada.

Yada, Oh yeah, 'cause now

they're going to start.

That that should start pelting

here pretty.

Soon.

Well, the ten it's going to be

10.

I thought it was 15.

No, now he's saying he's backing

it back down to 10.

Oh, he's walking at the. 10 he's

walking it back to. 10 May I

only get my news from you so

right?

Sorry.

You got to update me on these

things.

Does that mean you didn't know?

So you're talking about like

Fuente basically?

LFD.

Fuente, what's his name?

Fratello just went to the Dr. We

have that story.

Ventura, Henderson.

Ventura.

He's still trying to get his

money back from the voyage, so.

Yeah, still.

Still, all these years later.

Years later, still not getting

in, still hadn't come in yet.

You.

Got to write that off.

What he should have done is he

should have 1099 them.

Oh, there you go.

Just give it to him as a gift.

He goes 30K, There you go,

whatever it was.

Worth that on your taxes,

everybody.

Right, All right, moving on

because it's still not here yet.

OK, we'll stop and eat in a

minute.

Poop pills are a game changer

for treating cancer.

Nope.

They're taking fecal matter,

putting it in capsules, and it

helps with the side effects of

the radiation therapy.

OK, how did the how?

A pair of new Canadian clinical

trials show poop pills can

reduce the toxic side effects of

cancer medication.

Course the Canadians.

And even support patient

response to immunotherapy.

So you have I don't know who's

poop they're putting.

Eat the poop.

Eat the poop.

It's a these little brown

capsules.

Yeah.

Oh God.

Also known as crapsles.

This is like a pharmaceutical

grade centipede, right?

Fecal microbiotal transplant FMT

pills contain freeze dried fecal

matter and according to new

research published in Nature

Medicine, of course it's an all

natural thing.

Pooping poo may dramatically

improve cancer treatment, but

there's a side effect if you

take too much.

You're full of shit.

You can get colitis.

Yeah, this is retarded.

What are we doing?

They analyzed data from 20

patients.

The team found the customized

FMT may help relieve some of the

severe side effects associated

with immunotherapy.

Standard treatment for advanced

kidney cancer often includes an

immunotherapy drug that helps

the patient's immune system

tackle cancer.

Too much reading from the

teleprompter.

I'm sorry, there's medical

stuff.

I got to get this right.

You don't have to explain all

that.

You just say, hey, if you eat

too much poop, you get sick.

I did say you eat too much.

Poop.

That's perfect and I would have

said.

Colitis diarrhea, sometimes so

severe that patients must stop

life sustaining.

Treatments.

Stop reading.

I didn't.

I looked at you.

In a bad poop, it's bad poop.

How do you feel about eating

shit, Phil?

I don't know how this story made

our show I.

Mean do you eat pieces?

Of shit because I needed a third

story and it was a slow news

cycle.

So the only piece of news in

there was about eating poop.

You eat pieces of shit for.

Greg thought it was fascinating.

I ran the stories by Greg.

That's not a.

Surprise, of course.

Greg thought it was fascinating.

You eat pieces of shit for

breakfast, I eat pieces of shit

like you for breakfast.

You eat pieces of shit for

breakfast.

If you had cancer, you wouldn't

take a poop pill.

I'd take a lead pill.

Wow, he.

Had cancer.

He's talking about suicide bro.

You're not listening to what

he's.

Saying, oh, that pill, yeah,

there's a lot of that going on.

Let's not talking about.

That there is a lot going on,

man.

Somebody hit me with a bunch of

them.

I did yesterday.

That was right.

OK, Today's show.

Yeah.

Oh my God, that was so bad.

That's terrible.

And now we're eating shit.

Was this, you know this?

Is what we've come to.

This is this is where we're at,

right?

This is where we're at.

And I've been so hopeful this

whole time and now.

Sorry to burst your bubble there

buddy.

Really could use a whopper about

now.

I don't know what.

This guy's doing right now.

So do you have a video for us

today?

Please have a video for us

today.

I do not have a video.

Oh.

Man.

I do not have a video today.

I almost had a video today.

There was a guy in Canada that

was attacked by two turkeys.

But it was bad footage.

How do we not have and?

Then some lady pulls up, some

lady pulls up to him as he's

being chased by the turkeys and

yells get in my car, get in my

car.

So he got in this strange lady's

car.

Magic tickets right now, they're

buy one get one free.

Oh, they're that bad?

Yeah.

Wow bro.

They are that bad.

We're we're so hopeful.

We're 6th place right now. 6th

place you do buy one, get one

all right on the cigar news.

He's almost here.

Roja St.

Tacos Cinco de Mayo, 2026

shipping in April.

Are we getting those?

Probably not.

Really, those are good.

Never get anything.

When do what are you talking

about?

We get stuff all the time.

Haven't the last new stuff.

We haven't got any of them.

What else haven't we gotten?

Whatever we talked about

yesterday.

What was that?

I don't remember.

I moved on.

I got to memorize this stuff.

You think I got to keep it?

Stuff you would never bring into

this humidor, that's what was.

Yesterday, third year in a row,

Roja cigars were released at

Living Edition Cigar to

celebrate Cinco de Mayo.

OK, you want it?

I'll go get it for you.

No, I don't want it.

I don't want to buy.

Three tacos.

Mexican holiday that falls on

May 5th.

There's a lot of a lot of time,

a lot of time.

Why are you breaking my balls?

It's a 6 by 54 Toro vitola made

with Ecuador and Habano wrapper,

Mexican San Andreas binder.

That makes sense.

It's a Mexican cigar.

Yeah.

And Phil's from Nicaragua, grown

in the Halapa region.

And Connecticut broad leaf grown

in the United States.

Well, you jam up on Jamistron,

so it's not halapa that you

screw.

I always get halapa right?

Yeah.

So they told half Will that the

amount of halapa tobacco in the

filler has been changed slightly

compared to 2025.

We make a little difference.

Really.

They post, oh, they produce it

their own factory.

Sounds like it's going to.

Be the same.

Looks like it's going to be the

same.

MSRP will be what, gentlemen?

Phil.

What are these like?

I think these are like what, $9

cigars?

I don't know.

Maybe like 9 bucks. 9.

Yeah. 12. 1250 Wow.

It's like I'm in the industry

and I know what I'm doing and

they're crazy. 2000 boxes or 40

thousandths ago.

Follow me from Work Knowledge

and Intel.

You have ashes all over you.

Thank you.

Nope.

No, there's still there's a lot.

You finally did it after all

these episodes, you gave me a

proper heads up.

All right, Fratello, who went to

the Dominican Republic to get

around the tariffs.

Finds himself.

Finds himself shipping cigars

with tariffs.

Right from yeah in his rocket

center.

Shipping the 1821 Dominican

Republic the first cigar in its

new puro collection that will

feature cigars made with tobacco

from a single country.

That way, no problem with the

tariff at all.

It's all Dominican.

Oh boy.

Oh sure, now they got a tariff.

Oh, so it's like the original

Opus X, You know, that's what

the Opus X was, was.

A tariff free cigar.

At one point it was all

Dominican tobacco.

Oh.

However, I don't think it's that

anymore.

I could be wrong, but they don't

really tell you anything about

the blends at this .0.

It's like Opus X.

We're actually doing an opus on

the what's the score today, so

we'll be able to tell if they

say what it is.

Oh, OK.

Yeah, it depends on what year it

is now.

And he's making all the cigars

at the La Aurora Cigar factory

in Santiago, Dominican Republic.

OK, it's a 6558 vitola.

What is the price?

Vitello Cigars 6558 12 cigars in

a box. $14.00.

Oh Fratello 18 bucks. 1821 Good

job there's a car outside

driving slowly.

I'm gonna.

Get it?

I'm gonna get.

It it's like you know what

you're doing and you're a part

of this industry.

There are plans for a series.

The mask off.

Why would you take the mask off?

There's plans for a series of

these cigars before we found out

they're going to be tariffs.

Is that what it says it?

Doesn't say anything about the

terrorists, but it says it was

slated for a series of cigars.

He's like son of A.

Next one will be the Fratello

18210 Nicaraguan.

So now he's going to a.

Different.

Oh, that's smart.

He's moving.

Well, maybe it's he likes.

Making cigars for places like he

did those state cigars.

Right now he's doing country

cigars.

He's just working in different

angles, right?

The project gets their names

from the year 1821, which is

when the Dominican Republic and

Nicaragua gained independence

from Spain.

There you go.

Look man, you got to try

something.

Yeah, you got to have an angle.

You got to do something.

Story sells.

I don't know if Greg Sells says

you got to sell the sizzle, not

the steak.

Yeah.

I don't know if 1821 is

something like yes.

Yeah, like everybody knows 1821,

what a good year that.

Was, you know, but maybe, maybe

it does.

Well, here comes Phil.

Here comes Phil with her thanks.

I'm not hungry, I'm hungry.

Did Phil have to pay for these

whoppers?

Yes, yeah, we don't make.

Money on the show.

Well, that's a reimburse him.

He just made a lot of money.

He didn't make a lot of money.

He did get a check.

You do make money on this show.

The Fratello's new releases will

be at it, says a 2025 PCA

convention.

Adreja.

Maybe that was late.

They were late.

Probably a glitch.

Oh, there a lot of typos lately

in the half wheel.

Lazy.

So what am I supposed to do with

this?

Do you want me to eat a whopper

right now on this pocket?

We're gonna eat a whopper, and

then when are they in paper?

They're in the.

Standard 1.

All right, well, this is the

original.

Then next week when they get the

new one, we will eat.

This is a whopper now.

We got Whopper juniors or

something you got to throw.

This look at this is the

saddest.

This reminds me of falling down.

Why is it remind?

Why is it a junior?

So we're broke, Michael.

It doesn't even have cheese.

No, you don't get cheese.

On you don't get cheese on a

Whopper.

You don't get cheese on a

Whopper.

No, there's no cheese on a

Whopper.

You.

This is ridiculous.

What is on this?

It's just a burger.

Pull all this crap off.

Yeah, pull this onion shit off

this.

Can't believe this is happening

right now.

You see the little amount of

lettuce?

There's lettuce.

Yeah, there's a little bit of

yellowish green stuff on it.

Whopper has cheese, no?

No, no, you have to add cheese

you.

Didn't even get real whoppers.

You got whopper juniors.

They're smaller.

It's a short show.

They're not redoing the

Whoppers, Whopper Juniors.

Yeah, they will.

It'll be a junior version of the

Whopper.

Yeah, it's going to be the same.

No, it's not.

Yes, it will be.

Yeah, Whoppers never had cheese

on it, just the Big Mac.

Big Mac has cheese.

You know what?

I believe you.

You're the fast food

connoisseur.

I couldn't tell you last time I

had Burger King.

Today sometimes because it's

smaller lines.

But I can't believe that we're

having it on the show.

This is ridiculous.

We thought you'd enjoy it,

right?

VI Skull and Bones Red returns

for 2026.

We're getting these right?

It's not bad.

Mayonnaise isn't creamy enough

for me.

Yeah, we're getting those.

We really, we really need

creamier mayonnaise.

We have some cream on your on

your list.

Somewhere around maybe?

A different bun would be good.

Somewhere around $4000 worth

annual per franchisee.

We must all be really hungry

because we're just fucking

pounding out these

opportunities.

Well.

I'm hungry.

I'm not really that hungry, I'm

just a savage.

For the first time in three

years, a trio of Fiahi, Skull

and Bones will soon ship to

stores.

Didn't we get you last year?

We got something with Skulls,

but it wasn't Skull and Bones.

Oh, you had like The Wolverine

stuff.

Yeah.

So we're getting the red big

Ivan, the red fat man, and the

red little boy.

Oh, that's not appropriate for

right now and.

The new The Fat Man and Little

Boy cigars.

Oh, those just came out in 2011.

That's two things for Palmer.

That's two strikes.

Yeah.

Why?

Isn't that two strikes?

They're not redoing the Whopper

Junior, which is just stupid,

but thanks for the food.

How do you know they're not

redoing They of course they're

redoing the Whopper junior.

'Cause they would have announced

it.

It's the junior of the whopper.

Whatever the big one is, it's

just a smaller one.

They're not going to redo it.

Yeah, they are.

No, they're going to keep that

one the same.

Oh, we'll see.

Don't you guys know anything

about marketing?

There's no way.

Yeah, but then they're going to

carry two kinds of mayonnaise.

Right.

Are they going?

Perfect.

This is exactly what I wanted

him to do 'cause I was about to

do it.

And you can't type.

All right, now my fingers are

greasy.

You found it?

Yeah, it was just a little bit.

Must be a new guy in there.

He's a little lazy.

Well, he knows these are short

lived so he doesn't care.

Yeah, we're doing it anyway, so

hopefully you hate this.

There has been no official

announcement to to suggest the

Whopper junior will receive the

same changes.

It's assumed.

Yeah, no, they're.

Not gonna find out in two weeks.

They're not gonna.

We'll find out in 2.

Weeks that would be $5000

annual.

No, it's not.

Then they carry two kinds of

mayonnaise, two kinds of buns.

Right, the buns are smaller.

They're not the same buns.

It's the same buns.

No, they're not.

Yeah, it is just they cut them

down you.

Want to hear a funny story?

I feel like the story's not

going to be funny.

Can you laugh anyways, though?

I'll pretend that it's funny.

Go ahead.

He's not.

Obama's not gonna laugh.

I'll laugh.

So Palmer was working the shop

this morning and every online

order that goes through I

approve.

So there was an order for

Posania Broadleaf Bellicosos 5

pack.

This isn't funny.

And he takes a picture of these

five cigars and he turns one

over so that I can verify that

it's the Bellicoso.

So it says it on the UPC.

And I look at them and they're

all Corona Gorda and it even

says on the UPC, the Corona

Gorda.

Oh my.

God.

And then I say to him, like,

dude, these aren't even the

right.

These aren't even close to the

right size.

Yeah, I mean, I can understand

if you didn't flip one over, but

you know.

Yeah, you flipped it over.

It says it on the.

It says it there.

It says it there.

So then he said, well, they were

in the wrong box.

And I'm like, the bellicosos are

pointy.

It's a smaller box.

And they're bigger.

Yeah.

Yeah, somebody put Coronas in

the Bellicoso box.

Brandon, who used to work here,

had walked in and I just scooped

them out and laid them out while

I was talking to Brandon that I

haven't seen in I don't know how

long and I didn't notice.

Oh, you missed them.

Is.

He always getting triggered

there.

I'm getting triggered.

I'm just explaining what

happened.

Look at the anger.

I'm angry you miss Brandon.

You miss Brandon I.

Miss that other show.

That other show was fun to do.

Brandon was on that show.

Yeah, he was our engineer.

Wow, what show?

The Chet and Palmer Show.

Oh.

This show's fun too, but that

was a different type of show.

He doesn't like this show.

He's trying to quit.

I've been doing.

It well, the other one he could

talk about sex, drugs and

rock'n'roll.

That is.

True, yeah.

Palmer's ready to retire.

You didn't want the Wednesdays

off, you know.

Right.

Maybe that's why Brandon came

in.

He's trying to infiltrate

Brandon to us.

He did offer he go, you want to

do the show again?

And I was like, no.

Did he really?

Yeah, I don't.

I don't have time, he doesn't

have time.

He's travelling.

All over the place.

Maybe just Wednesdays.

Maybe just Wednesdays.

I.

Don't have time for podcasts on

Wednesdays.

I have to do my other podcast.

There's a lot of information

about that cigar.

Alrighty, give Fray you.

You all ready now?

Are we all done eating now that

we just ate on the air?

It was great.

It was great.

We should have snack time.

Tell you what, I will still do

Wednesdays if we can have snack

time once a week.

I asked about food the other

day.

That's.

Right.

I thought maybe this was

Palmer's way of granting my

wish.

Texting people the the lighters

on the site are coming up price

0.

Dollars.

I don't know what to tell you.

Great, now Mikey's just giving

them away on the on the.

YouTube site, it's still $7000.

For a hat.

But we sold.

We sold.

All of them I would imagine for

0.

Of course, no.

Well, Mark Palmer bought 1.

And I was like, you could just

happen like, whatever, that's

fine, you know?

I mean, it's Mark Palmer, you

know?

Yeah, really.

It's riveting back.

Yeah.

So like.

People are contacting me saying

hey, these are $0.00.

Buy them all guys, get them when

you.

Can those are good customers?

I mean this is Miguel Rocha.

I was like hey dude I got 5 in

my.

Got 5 for.

Nothing.

It's costing me 995 for

shipping.

I'm like.

Yeah.

Shouldn't I get free shipping?

It's over $100, right?

No, they're $0.00.

That's right.

So you got to pay 10 bucks?

You bought 5 is that Buy one get

one half off.

Providers.

He would have to, yeah.

Yeah.

So he would get basically one

for free.

No, he'd get buy one and get

140% off.

Right, but he bought 5 of them.

It would be 1 big one, but he it

was one big 14 small ones.

I like that all of that jades

you.

Like doesn't jade me.

Yes it does.

No it doesn't.

There's something else you said.

Yes.

On yesterday's show, I was like,

man, he's just got to lighten

up.

So angry.

Ready for the industry's

favorite game?

I am at 38 minutes, yes.

What?

We dragged this out for a good

15 minutes.

I think we're good.

We had this delicious Whopper

Junior that won't be changing.

Can't wait to see the updated

Whopper Junior that'll be

exactly the same because it's

not changing.

Well, we're going to find out.

All right, there's nothing to

find out.

Sure we will in a week when we

get another one, yeah.

Dude, you guys, I can't believe

they removed gullible from the

dictionary.

I mean, it's gone.

It's not.

It's going to be the same thing.

All right, we'll.

Find out they remove gullible

from the dictionary.

Exactly.

Exactly.

All right, this cigar is from

March 26th, 2013, reviewed by

Brooks Whittington.

It's the Arturo Fuente Cigar,

Dominican Republic, Maine

reviews the Opus X football.

Champion first.

What year was it?

2013.

The Opus X football, but it's

Brooks.

I don't think he's a Fuente guy.

No, he's a Tetua 80. 4. 81.

Cigar reviewed the Fuente Opus X

football country of origin

Dominican Republic Factory Tablo

Calera, a Fuente rapper

Dominican Chateau de la Fuente,

Rosado and Maduro with an

asterisk.

I don't know what that means.

Binder Dominican Republic filler

Dominican Republic with an

asterisk.

Size 5 by 128.

Why does it have an asterisk?

I don't know.

Ring gauge.

I said 128.

The vitola.

It's a football.

Estimated price $500. $500.

Yes, released in 2013.

He smoked one.

I mean, they bought one of these

for $500.

Yeah, $50.

Yeah, they make money, Palmer.

You guys make money.

No, no, I mean like they make a

lot of money.

But you guys make money.

Yeah, No, I'm not.

Complaining about the money I'm.

Just saying they make a lot of

money.

One for $500. $500.

I wouldn't reviewed a $500 cigar

if I had to pay for it.

I wouldn't buy a $500 cigar if I

had the money to pay for it.

I think you would.

No way.

Yeah, No, I didn't even buy the

Millennium that one time.

I traded services.

So you still bought it?

Kind of.

I mean, not with cash, I.

Mean he, Greg?

Pretty much no.

No, that's not what I meant.

Yeah.

Should've made that one of your

movies.

That way you would've already

had some.

Yeah, something in the can, as

they say.

Something in the can.

Right footage in the can

industry lingo.

Sorry, I thought you were aware.

Filled with Greg.

Right, filled by Greg.

Filled by Greg.

Wow.

Wow, wow, 82.

That was his review of it.

Wow, 81.

All right clue #1 the extremely

smooth rapper and substantially

weight give the Opus X football

a bold high end presence that

immediately stands out.

82. 81 not changing.

Pepper on the retro hail and

smoke production increases

nicely in the second third,

adding depth and making the

experience more engaging as it

progresses.

Why are these comments so?

86.

It's not a long review from.

2013.

Yeah, it's back when they were

Stogie Press or whatever it was.

I'm I'm going 81.

I don't think this, I don't

think he likes it.

They were half wheeled this time

2013.

You're right, they just put the

logo on the pictures.

The third clue, The profile is

staged largely consistent

throughout, and by the final

third, the sweetness fades while

bitterness increases slightly,

dulling the overall experience.

Man, this is going to be a tough

one 87.

Well the problem is is that the

comments are short and very non

descriptive.

Yeah, back in the old days.

I think the good final thought

of this cigar was ass.

Yeah, 80.

I'm going to stick at 81.

We still got a final thought

though, right?

Final thought OK, like I

mentioned in my Bahiki review.

Bahiki.

Yeah, that's what I said.

Smoking and scoring a cigar that

is this rare is almost criminal,

but one of the main points

behind the sites reviews is to

do exactly that.

Having said that, at a certain

point a cigar becomes so big and

odd that the focus becomes on

making sure the cigar burns and

less so on flavor.

Factor in the fact that this was

never meant to be a commercial

success, and in the amount of

time that goes into perfecting

the flavor is probably close to

minimal.

The football did have flavor in

it that reminds me of very

slightly of an Opus X, but the

persistent bitterness in the

profile, while not overwhelming

at any point except at the end,

was persistently annoying enough

to notice.

It ended up being not even close

to as strong as I expected, and

it flavors it did possess, well,

not horrible in any way.

We're pretty 1 dimensional in

the end.

I'm extremely grateful to have

been able to smoke one.

But as far as smoking goes, the

Opus X football was basically

just one huge, boring pile of

burning tobacco.

Oh, he was going to say burning

pile of crap.

One far more entertaining to

look at than to smoke.

One heaping pile of cow, Heaping

pile of I can't.

You know it's almost criminal to

smoke this $500 cigar.

However, one must do the Lord's

work and smoke this.

Here's a nice piece of.

Yep, can't say the words

anymore.

I have to put up.

And you can still say it 84.

I win 83. 70 he wins.

Yeah, I was never going to get

70, but I knew it was definitely

low.

Ouch.

I'm a fan of the low scoring

cigars, gentlemen.

You should notice that they're

tough.

So.

So they made a football cigar

and then LFD made one.

LF DS is considerably smaller.

This is looks like it's about

like that big.

Oh, so it's like the shape of a

football?

It's the shape of a football.

Oh, wow.

Listen, nothing is new under the

sun, all right?

Nobody, nobody created it first.

And then something, something

like stop.

Just stop it right now.

Well, saga, Saga.

Nobody made the Postania

justice.

Saka invented cigars?

Ask him.

Other than Saka?

And the Postania justice?

OK.

Are you going to be anywhere?

Nope.

OK.

Do you want me to put up a

voting thing where we say, hey,

do you want us to continue five

days a week, or do you want us

to do 3?

No, keep going.

Why give up now?

That's that's my feelings.

Wow, I'm surprised that you even

put that on the table.

In the middle, I don't know what

to tell you.

It doesn't mean I'm not in for

the five.

It was just a nice break.

Palmer was just, you know, he's

having a bad day.

It was a long drivey day.

It was 6 hours in the car.

It was nice to get home and not

have to do anything.

OK, we were working on some new

things here to make it even

more.

Efficient, I understand that.

Yeah, like food during the

podcast.

Yeah, that was great.

We should just eat on every job

it.

Was terrible and it didn't do

anything.

Maybe the commercial will be at

that point.

Right, we ate something that's

not gonna change.

Well, we'll see.

Doesn't it?

OK, yeah, we'll see.

Waiting with a bated breath.

You know what I'll bring in next

time?

A box of fudge rounds.

Maybe that will change.

A box of what?

Box of what?

Fudge rounds.

What's that?

Little Debbie's fudge round a

what?

Yeah, I I can understand what

you're saying.

Fudge rounds.

Fudge rounds?

What's that bring in the oatmeal

pies?

Yeah, see, Palmer's on the right

track.

Oatmeal pies are all right.

Little Debbie Oatmeal.

Pies.

Oh, are you talking about the?

The chocolate one.

Chocolate oatmeal pies, No.

No, the fudge rounds are they're

like blackish.

With the cream inside.

Yeah, like the Swiss Swiss cake

rolls.

Well that's a Swiss cake roll.

A fudge round is like a cookie

looking thing, but soft cookie.

Great, now we are coop show.

Is that how he explains like?

No, but now we're just talking

about food.

You want to know what you are,

Phil?

I'm a great guy and thank you

guys for watching show.

Bye.

You're a you're a borderline

diabetic.

No, no.

The Chinese have figured out how

to reverse type 1 and type 2

diabetes.

Oh, I have a story for Monday

about the Chinese.

You want to do it today since

we.

Have extra time?

Sure, go ahead.

They have come out with a

machine that you hook your phone

to and you can kiss your

significant other through your

phone.

What?

What?

It is this little thing with

these rubber lips on it and you

hook your phone to it so you're

looking at your person and then

you kiss the rubber lips as they

kiss the rubber lips on their

side and you feel them moving as

you move.

That's ridiculous.

It's.

Creepy.

Ridiculous.

That was going to be on Monday's

show.

That's creepy, not ridiculous.

That is, and people will buy

this.

Yeah.

So it's running through China.

They developed it in China, It's

selling over there.

There's a picture of a Chinese

guy doing it and I.

Mean, first of all, have you

ever seen all this stuff in

China that's been created?

It doesn't make it here.

I like it so much.

Yeah, but the IT works with the

iPhone.

The iphone's hooked to it.

All the Chinese people probably

forced to buy it.

You'll buy, my friend.

Need.

Yeah.

Want your money?

You buy this now?

Look, you kissy, kissy your

face, yeah.

No, that's how it was marketed.

It was really a weirdo that made

that was like, I'm going to kiss

all the people on my face.

It's just a matter of time for

somebody you know goes down

below with it.

Right.

You put it down there.

You put it down there, I open

mouth, and then you put it in.

You kiss my no, no.

Fast forward 10 years and the

Chinese creator of the kissy

Kissy is found on some dark web

right pedo for fucking.

Remember the Squatty Potty guy?

Well, now it's a kissy kissy.

No, it's a kissy, kissy guy.

Tiny Chinese.

Kissy he make a $12.3 million.

It's Dara.

I said Dara.

No, it's Dara.

Oh is that the line?

Like as soon as they make 12.3.

Have you been there?

No, I've watched South Park.

That's not real.

That's South Park.

Absolutely real.

South Park is super real.

It's a cartoon.

The Simpsons.

Is also a cartoon that tells the

future.

Yeah, so does South Park there.

You go?

Yeah, dude, in South Park we

trust.

What in South Park we trust.

Is that what you said?

Yeah.

They have like cow launchers and

stuff.

It's.

Going to be I got to find I got

to find a new thing for Monday

show.

OK.

All right, Well, hey, like and

subscribe.

You going to be on anybody

else's secret podcast?

I don't think so, because.

I didn't announce that.

You didn't.

No, you didn't tell anybody.

Well, if you are, make sure you.

You just have to take the camera

home the other night and I'm

like, what are you doing?

Hey.

Dude, it's not intentional.

It's not intentional.

It's just that there's 75,000

things going on at the same time

and I'm not.

I don't know what to tell.

You I think I'm on somebody's

podcast in March, but I don't

remember what day or who it is,

but it's on my calendar.

Friday, but we're not there yet,

so you can figure out.

Yeah, there's still plenty of

time.

You know, it's here's how that

happened.

Like I booked it and then I was

like, man, I feel like this is

coming up.

I looked at it and it goes, oh,

it's tomorrow.

I'm like, OK, so and then we had

the Espinoza thing.

Right.

And then you had all the other

things that are going on in

everyday life as far as coaching

and other stuff, right?

So plus games, plus all that

stuff and you know, and the

whole the business thing.

And the league.

This week was a.

Tough.

And then the league you started.

And yeah, this week was this

week was this week was a lot.

I'm on somebody's podcast in

March.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Is it a hostage podcast?

That's right.

Yeah, I knew it.

Yeah.

Oh yeah, he's booked a guest in

March.

Oh yeah, that's right.

Oh yeah, we forgot to tell you,

dude.

Can't do that.

Day I no longer need you.

Wow.

Yeah, we got Brandon.

Brandon's back.

Brandon's back.

Brandon's back.

So F Brandon.

All right.

Well, thank you.

If you like listening to us or

watching us.

Watch us eat.

Subscribe someone.

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And please tell, please tell my

Whopper junior people that the

Whopper junior's staying the

same.

It's changing.

I can't wait for everybody to

hear this show 'cause we were

definitely chomping in the

microphones all.

Right, guys, you gotta go.

Bye.

Show Notes

On today’s show If I only had 12.3 million dollars It’s good to be the king!  Poop is the new penicillin Then in Cigars we get new tacos!  Fratello invades the DR and we’ve got Pirate cigars