ACHP 400 The Said We Couldn't
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This is Jack Terano and this is
episode 400 of Cigar Hustlers
Oh, thanks, Jack, and welcome to
episode 400 of the Scar Hustler
Podcast.
It's a.
Big This is a big one.
This is the big one.
This is 400.
This is Jack.
Jack did the intro.
Oh, so I have some facts about
the show and I contact.
I didn't contact, but I worked
through ChatGPT and told it to
act like you're a podcast
savant.
Give me interesting facts and
figures about the Cigar Hustler
podcast.
OK, OK.
Savant.
So first, our top five episodes
on YouTube.
Yes, number one is still
Intuition Beer.
Yeah.
Yeah, episode 200 with Bryan,
Descend of Bravada Club is
number 2.
Interesting.
Episode 279, have you seen this
man when Phil went missing in
the jungles of Nicaragua?
Oh, Nicaragua, Nicaragua and
Karen sat in.
That's our third highest rated
episode.
Wow, who was Karen?
It was boots and a wig, and then
rounding out is episode 238 with
Skip Martin.
So boots in a wig beat Skip
Martin.
Nice.
Oh wow, that's weird.
See, see, see a little.
Just a little movie magic.
You can't even deliver the joke.
I guess it's a kind of a win.
Not really.
Yeah, it's a win for me.
It's a win for the show, but not
a win for me.
It's a win for you.
It was a.
It's a win for all of us.
Yeah, I guess.
OK, now this is interesting.
According to listen notes, I'm
not even sure what that is, but
this is Chad GBT.
The podcast holds a listen score
of 33.
That's high.
Placing it in the top 5%
globally for popularity.
Wow.
This indicates a strong standing
among millions of podcasts
worldwide.
Millions.
Wow.
I thought that was very
interesting, yeah.
How are we still broke?
Yeah, you know what?
I was reading this to my wife
and I told her and we still make
no money.
How does?
How does this what?
Are we doing?
She goes, there's something you
guys are doing wrong.
Yeah, we got to fix that.
Maybe we should just, you know,
open the bank account.
Just goes just go straight pay
like.
Stream of Venmo across the
bottom.
Howard Stern's retiring,
supposedly.
Maybe there's a hole there.
We.
Can take over SiriusXM.
There you go.
Go fund me.
Guest and industry figures
including Matt Booth, Jack
Terano, Hector Alfonso have been
consistent contributors with
notable exclusives.
Notable exclusives such as being
the first to interview Hirochi
Rabbania in America.
Wow.
So that's on the Internet
somewhere.
Wow.
It's available on all major
podcast platforms and has an
audience spending 90% of the
world, a testament to its global
reach.
We are global.
Global 90% of the world knows
who we are.
Still no money.
It's just a matter of time.
Seven years, Where's the time at
you?
Know what's going to happen is
we're going to we are going to
breach the like the level of
engagement on YouTube and then
it's going to say that we're not
qualified.
Probably, yeah.
It's like it reminds me of a
Christmas story.
You remember a Christmas story?
The guy saved up all that he
couldn't to get the decoder for
the Oval teen.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And then he broke open the code
and the code was drink more Oval
teen.
Oh man.
You guys have essentially made
it to the top of the heap now
where you get paid to be on
YouTube.
Congratulations, but you don't
qualify.
Sorry.
Tobacco.
It's cigars.
Tobacco.
No.
Well not qualify.
They just stopped doing it now.
Oh, they just stopped the
program.
Yeah.
Oh, we stopped.
It, you know, we decided to shut
that down.
It's.
Too expensive?
Great.
All right, Michael, we it is a
little late, but I do have a
birthday present.
For you, you do.
Oh, you'll reach over the side
of your chair.
There.
Oh, over.
Here, over there.
Oh.
I didn't even know it was here.
You're very slick.
Oh.
God, and now it's broke.
Nah, it's broke again.
Just bouncing on the.
Floor.
Is it Bluetooth?
No, it's not Bluetooth.
Is it a chainsaw?
Yes.
Careful.
Is it a picture of us?
No.
Not a picture.
It's underwear with your guys's
face on it, yes.
It's a.
Sign for you to hang up by your
desk.
SPC 24, half wheel rating 82.
Oh, that's a great award.
Stainless steel I will not rust.
Aw, thank you so much.
So you will have it forever.
I actually have a present for
you.
It's not my birthday.
Is that all that's in here?
Yeah, it's all that's in here.
Thank you very much.
I will wear well.
You.
Place it with pride.
It's 1/4 inch stainless steel.
You could use it as a plate in
body armor, so if you need.
I have a present for you.
Oh yeah, it's our newest
T-shirt.
Oh my goodness.
And it just so happens to be in
reference.
To the.
Exact same thing.
Oh, it's got the SBC on the
bottom.
I like that that's.
I like the SBC thing, it looks
very Miami.
Lucky yes, it's available at
chapter pod.com officially and
this is the first one ever made
and it's yours I'll.
Get that later.
Officially for you.
Thank you.
Yes, we made a nice little Sun
logo with a questionable media
source in the middle.
In the middle. 20% alleged.
Yeah, and you know, because
Icarus flew too close to the Sun
and they are available limited
quality quantities.
Excellent.
Quality.
Excellent quality, limited
quantities at Chapter pod.com.
I have reached out to everyone
who has bought a shirt and they
are all raving of the quality of
our product.
Are they?
Yes.
Excellent.
Oh.
They're the ones who, yeah, the
ones who originally bought the
BDP.
They're holding up well.
Perfect.
That's good to hear.
And well, I got news for you.
Yes, I had a little competition
with my friend Boots over here.
Yes.
What's the score?
Yes.
Yes, and I blew him out of the
water.
Yes.
Yes.
What was the ending score first
of all for?
75 to 2.
I was over.
I was over by three points.
So like.
So just a mild blow out of the
water.
No, that's pretty big.
Three points.
Yeah, in order to if I nailed
it, I would get a point, right?
And if not like, I'd have to get
1/2.
A point, right?
Right.
So you gotta figure that's at
least three weeks of me beating.
Him out of how many weeks?
Dude, dude, I.
Think out of like 4.
Out of. 4-4 or five.
Oh, well then OK then it's yes,
it's a, it's a trouncing at 3 or
4.
Now a while ago, I know some of
you guys have forgotten about
this, but a while ago we were
talking about Alcatraz, yes, And
my dear friend Boots said that
he would love to go on the tour
and see the Statue of Liberty
and then go visit Alcatraz.
Yes.
So for you my friend, I have
made this Alcatraz, New York.
T.
Shirt, it's so nice.
Yes.
That's way better.
Here you go buddy.
Congratulations.
I appreciate that those are
those.
Go ahead.
Those are also available on
chapter pod dot.
Com Oh, we open those up too.
It's going.
To be a hot selling.
That's a well.
I only made a couple of them.
It's very, very small quantities
on that 10.
It's limited.
Very limited.
Super limited.
Right.
So you won and lost at the same
time, Yeah.
Right.
Well, thank you, Mikey.
I didn't get you anything for
you winning.
That's OK.
Damn, I just dropped my cigar.
We've all dropped.
It you're so funny.
Trust me, I mean.
Yeah, So what are we doing on
today's Patreon?
We're.
So nervous of this episode 4.
100 is a very big deal like.
We've never done it before.
I like Palmer's jacket for the
400.
Yes, I wore the red one for the.
4 Very evil.
Let me weigh it real quick.
It's gonna it's not gonna weigh
just for the record, 'cause
it's.
I've not touched those yet, but
I've have talked to people.
It's 10.7g.
We are going to be smoking the
Cao stoke, how's that?
Perfect.
On the Patreon, we're going to
review it and I'm going to tell
you right now, it's squishy.
Yeah, like a spunk.
Don't give them.
Out early.
I don't want to speak ahead of
turn here.
Don't want to speak I'll of the
Danish cigar.
Is it Danish?
Is it Danish?
The man who made it is Danish,
yes.
I think the man who made it got
rolled, but that's neither here
nor there.
Maybe it feels like a Danish.
Oh, if it tastes like one, I'm
in.
It definitely doesn't.
Doesn't taste if it doesn't
taste like a Danish.
All right, on the trending news.
Let's go.
Thousands of dollars worth of la
Boo boos.
Oh, you.
Heard of these?
This is.
Going to be a great.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Boo boos.
This is the the demon baby I
have.
No idea what they are.
Oh yeah, they're they're pretty
cool.
They're.
Pretty hot, yeah?
The Laboo boos stolen as toy
popularity continues to soar
Dozens of boxes of popular
Labooboo toy, totaling around
$7000 were stolen from a store
in La Puente, CA, this week,
according to Los Angeles County
Sheriff's Department.
The burglary happened around
1:29 AM on August 6th at One
Stop Sales, a store known for
its Labooboo dolls and
accessories.
We worked so hard to get to this
point for them just to come in
and like nothing, take it all
away, Joanna Avendio, co-owner
of One Stop Sales, told local
ABC station KABCTV on Thursday.
The shop has since posted
surveillance footage of the
incident on social media.
One video shows at least 4
masked people breaking into the
store, ransacking shelves and
fleeing with boxes of
merchandise.
Grabbed a little Boo boos.
The other just in the Boo boos.
The owners of One Stop Sales in
La Puente, CA shared video on
Instagram of a robbery at their
store in August 6th, 2025.
Avendo also shared images of the
aftermath, showing shattered
glass at the entrance and
scattered products on the floor.
Apparently, only La Boo boos
were taken.
Deputies told ABC News Thursday
that the suspects remain at
large, but they have recovered
the stolen white Toyota Tacoma
used in the crime.
Oh.
They had to describe what truck
it was.
It was an elaborate scheme.
La Boo Boo.
Mission Impossible.
La Boo Boos, which debuted in
China in 2015, have exploded in
global popularity, spotted on
celebrities like Rihanna and
Blackpink Lisa and growing into
a billion dollar industry.
Revenue for Pop Art, the Chinese
designer toy company behind La
Boo Boos, doubled in 2024,
reaching 1.8 billion.
What?
According to Pop Mart's annual
financial report.
While the dollar retails for
$30, they can go for hundreds
and sometimes even thousands of
dollars on the resale market.
On social media, videos shows
crowds packing store interests
and pop ups lining up for chance
to score box of La Boo Boos.
Yeah, these things are going for
like.
What in the world?
$30 retail over thousands of
dollars on eBay and.
Stuff 200.
I'm looking at one for 1/21/67.
What is it exactly you?
Don't know what it is, no.
I have no idea.
I don't have children.
It's like a demon thing.
How big is it?
Well, this one's $500.
Who?
Created will it take 12?
'Cause it says celebrities are
carrying them around.
Are there like little key chainy
things?
They look like this.
Yeah, man, that's done.
Tell me, looks like a Beanie
Baby.
It's got it's like a demon
Bunny.
Is it like 3 inches?
Tall or it's a combination of
three different things.
Yeah, they're like this big.
I know.
All right, our economy is kind
of fragile, maybe going down and
bam, here come the liboo boos.
$7000 worth of liboo boos could
be like 5.
Let's spend all of our money on
the liboo boos.
On the liboo boos.
Not only is our economy, it's
not allegedly going down, I, I,
I wholeheartedly believe that
it's going, it's, we are in a
recession.
Not if you have a Liboo Boo.
Because yeah, everybody's buying
liboo boos.
Well, I mean, how about this?
Why would anybody want to have a
store in California?
Even if you find these guys,
what happens to them?
Well.
I know they said that was a
store but it's called One Stop.
It sounds almost like a gas
station.
No, the, the video I did watch
the the surveillance black and
white video thing, It's it's
like a little collectible store
thing, you know, Beanie Babies,
Liboo boos.
I don't know whether things they
collect now pot, those pop art
things, that a little rubber
people thing.
Whatever those are.
That type of stuff.
Those are only 100.
Wow, I mean $7000 in liboo boos.
It might be like 5 or 6.
Leave the rubber guys, let's
take the liboo boos.
If that's a $7000 like standard
MSRPI mean.
Yeah.
Is that retail figures that
wholesale?
Is that like the regular $30
price for these?
Well, then it's a lot of them,
yeah.
But if it's not, they have some
of those $500 ones.
This just in Cigar Hustler sells
laboo boos now.
One looks like Mikey, One looks
like Booze, 1 looks like Palmer.
Perfect.
We call them labeebies.
Pre-order now.
Pre-order your labeebies here at
cigarhustler.com Chapter
pod.com.
Thank God my kids aren't into
this.
I was going to ask if Teddy had
a Laboo.
Boo, don't even show them the
clipping.
Yeah, don't tell.
Don't let.
Them see the story.
Teddy does not have a Laboo Boo,
but you, the person who would
want the Laboo Boo, would
probably be justice.
Can you can you have your your
AI thing that you use make 3
laboo boos out of us?
We can make Laboo knock off
shirts.
Right.
That's what I mean, yeah.
That'd be fantastic.
I would make me a laboo Boo.
I wonder if it would know what
it is.
With this guy, I'm sure it does.
Oh, you know.
What the big thing in now is
with ChatGPT, the you give it so
you take a picture of your own
face, Yeah.
And you give it a very, very
detailed description and say
don't alter the face except for
the expression.
And it can.
It can make you do anything.
ChatGPT.
Yeah but don't you get like 2
images and then you have to pay
for it or something?
No, no, I mean I have the free
one.
I get like 5 or 6.
Yeah, every 24 hours.
What do you do with it?
Like, well, some of my profile
pictures have been through CHED,
you know I'm not doing it won't
do dirty.
Stuff like weird stuff.
No, don't.
It won't do weird stuff, and
actually it won't.
It wouldn't do one of me and you
together either because it says
you're not me.
Oh, so it has to be you?
Has to be me, because it knows.
I mean, if I would have started
with your photos, that was me,
then I could have.
But yeah, it won't alter
pictures of other people.
Yeah, to the safeguard, I guess.
So you got to add me in later.
That's what you're doing.
No, no.
Well, I was trying to use it for
our our tiles for the podcast,
but it won't do you.
It only does me.
For some reason, it produced a
picture of Mikey's face on
Carmen Electra's body.
It's.
So weird.
So weird but but amazingly, it
looks good.
It's amazing.
It's.
Amazing.
All right, next story.
OK.
This is a follow up to a story
from a few weeks ago when Jack
Terano was here.
Oh boy.
AOL to hang up on dial up
Internet service.
They're over.
They're cutting it off.
AOL announced that it will be
hanging up on dial up on
September 30th, New York Times
reported.
The company wrote on its home on
its help page.
AOL routinely evaluates its
products and services and has
decided to discontinue dial up
Internet.
This service will no longer be
available in AOL plans.
As a result, on September 30th,
2025, the service and the
associated software, the CD that
Fred has is no longer any good.
They're dead.
The AOL Dialer software and AOL
Shield browser are optimized for
older operating systems, and
dial up Internet connections
will be discontinued.
This change will not affect any
other benefit of your AOL plan,
which you can access anytime on
your AOL Plan Dashboard.
To manage or cancel your
account, visit My Account.
Wait a second, is AOL still
around?
Yes, yeah, Jack Toronto has an
e-mail account.
Yeah, that's where my mom.
I understand an e-mail account,
but you can still buy like That
said there's other services
besides.
Besides AOL, No, they're like,
well, I mean, you still.
Yeah, yeah, there's regular
Internet, but they used to have
dial up as a backup.
My dad had it for years.
It's always because, you know,
you go through their bills when
they get older and you're
looking for stuff and they go,
you could save $40 a month, what
is this?
He goes that's dial up in case
the Internet goes down.
That was actually going to be my
first question.
Like, Can you imagine if your
dad was still around to this day
and you had to have that
conversation with him?
Hey, listen.
Yeah.
No kidding.
We got to axe the dial up.
They're going to cancel the dial
up.
How will I ever get my e-mail?
I don't know, Dad.
What?
CEO finally said.
You know what I don't think when
was the when was the last time
any of us used dial up?
Yeah, but easy 40 bucks a month
from your customer.
Why cancel it?
Oh the old people don't know how
to turn it off anyway.
It's not like you or I are going
to have a dial up back up right?
These are the older customers
that still use it.
They got to figure out a way to
transition them into something
else.
That's $40 a month.
Yeah, now you're instantly
accessed.
We're going to upgrade you to.
Maybe they can't keep the
equipment running.
Maybe it's gotten so old they
can't find the parts anymore,
right?
We got to shut it off.
How much of?
Phone lines are dying. $40 a
month.
How much have we been making off
of this for the past decade?
Well, every month we make about
160 bucks.
That's crazy because.
They still have like they.
Still have telegraphers and
stuff like that.
But.
You can't, but you can't have
dial up.
Morse code.
It's just technology that's
gone.
I mean, they still have pigeons.
Yeah, some people still use
pigeons, yeah.
Yeah.
They had that in John Wick.
There's no more Pony Express.
There's no more Pony Express.
There's no horses riding across
country, no.
They got rid of that.
Yeah, not even in like Arizona.
No.
Can you imagine running in
somebody and like, what do you
do for a living?
We heard of Pony Express.
Yeah, I'm the guy.
I'm the one horse.
The one.
Guy.
One guy with the one horse that
still exists and I charge a
hefty fee.
FTV All right, and the 1998
movie You've got male actors Tom
Hanks and Meg Ryan strike up a
romantic relationship after
exchanging messages on AOL
platform Yahoo, which owns AOL.
Oh, I did not know that.
Did not immediately respond to
requests for comment.
AOL rose popularity in the
1990s, giving Americans an entry
point to the online world
through instant messaging and
e-mail features.
Originally known as America
Online, the company changed its
name to AOL in 2006.
Yahoo didn't get back to you
when they crashed their emails.
Maybe that's why maybe somebody
unplugged the dial up.
A few weeks ago when Yahoo.
They didn't get back to us in
either.
Yeah, they're, they're not going
to comment on anything.
Nope, they don't have to.
They're Yahoo.
Does anybody use the Yahoo
search thing anymore?
I'm sure.
I personally don't.
I don't either, it always tries
to install itself quite often
and then you have to click No
thank you, I'm a Google.
Person, you go away.
Yes, I'm Google.
However, I know that our dear
friend of Rack above, he's
recently done a ad campaign on
Yahoo.
That makes sense.
Because it's better pricing,
Yeah, it's cheaper.
It's more affordable.
Cheaper is such a.
Oh sorry, it's more affordable.
Yeah, it seems to be working for
him.
Oh, is he selling more of them?
Yeah.
Oh, good for him, yeah.
If he wants to come back, we'll
give him a deal.
Well, yeah, maybe.
I don't know.
I don't want.
I don't want anybody.
I don't want anybody, no.
Well, listen, I see the problem.
Why we're not making money.
Yeah, this is Boots.
I think I figured out what it
is.
This is that right?
It's part of the management team
not wanting anyone's average.
Part of the management team.
All right, Harvard physicist
says massive interstellar object
could be an alien probe on a
reconnaissance mission.
Of course it is of.
Course it is.
Why wouldn't it be?
It's.
A new movie.
Astronomers recently discovered
a rare interstellar object
passing through our solar
system, and a Harvard physicist
is sounding the alarm that it's
strange characteristics might
indicate that it's more than
just a comment.
Please hit my house.
Please hit my house.
Please hit my house.
It's flying by.
It's not.
It's not landing.
Maybe the trajectory was
designed, Doctor Avi Leob,
science professor at Harvard
University, told Fox News
Digital.
If it had an objective to sort
of be on reconnaissance mission
to either send many probes to
those planets or monitor them,
it seems quite irregular,
interesting.
The object, dubbed 31 Atlas, was
first detected in early July by
an asteroid Terrestrial Impact
Last Alert System, or Atlas.
Why do you know we had that?
Interesting.
We have an asteroid terrestrial
impact last alert, so this is
the last one once there's other
earlier ones.
It's 'cause you don't follow
aliens so.
Well, it's 31 Atlas.
Maybe there's one through 30
Atlas?
Other objects, maybe they yeah,
maybe they just give the next
name.
Yeah, I'm sure it's kind.
Of scary to think that 30
objects have triggered the alarm
that it might crash into earth.
Right, you want to know It would
be even funnier.
They've made a movie for each
one of them.
You know, if it was the, oh,
they mentioned that.
They mentioned that in the
story.
I don't know if I grabbed that
part, but I'll tell you about
that in a minute, OK?
The discovery marked only the
third time an inner serial
object has been observed
entering our solar system,
according to NASA.
Although NASA has classified the
object as a comet, Laob noted
that an image of the cosmic
visitor indicated an unexpected
glow appearing in front of the
object rather than trailing
behind.
Very glowy.
Something he described is quite
surprising.
Usually with comments you have a
tale, a comment tale where dust
and gas are shining, reflecting
sunlight, and that's the
signature of a comet, Lael told
Fox News.
He does contact Fox News here.
You see a glow in front and not
behind it, measuring about 20
kilometers across, making it
larger than Manhattan.
Please don't hit my house,
please.
However, according to Loeb, it
is most unusual characteristic
is its trajectory.
If you imagine objects entering
the solar system from random
directions, just one in 500 of
them would be aligned so well
with the orbits of the planets,
he said.
The interstellar object, which
comes from the center of the
Milky Way Galaxy, is also
expected to pass near Mars,
Venus and Jupiter, something
that is also highly improbable
to happen.
A random happen at random,
according to Loeb.
Spokesperson for NASA did not
immediately respond to Fox News
Digital's request for comments.
Nobody like nobody likes them.
So it did say at one point they
mistaken the what did you just?
Say Tesla on vehicle.
Yes, as a UFO they didn't
realize what it was and.
They're like, oh shit, never
mind.
Oh.
Zoom in.
Oh shit, that's that shiny.
Truck and it's got the mannequin
in it still right driving well
OK, so do you think it's a.
I think there's aliens.
I mean, we would be, you know,
it would be very strange if we
were the only thing out.
Here it's a whole lot of space
for nothing.
There's a whole lot of space out
there.
Yeah, but do you think that this
one?
Oh, I don't know.
I think it it, it could be a new
one.
I mean, if the lizard people
have already come through here,
I doubt you know this is, you
know this is them again.
Did you see any video footage or
pictures of this stuff when you
were reviewing this?
No, it's weird.
So you can pick which NEWS
CENTER you want to get your
stories from.
OK, they gave you like a choice
of three this week.
Very popular.
Was a Hindu news agency.
Really.
And it was the best one this
week it.
Was the best.
Very basic format, but the best
source of news.
It's in this week.
The New York Times won't give
you anything by the headline.
They want you to subscribe.
Same thing with Chicago Sun
Tribune thing or whatever.
So the Hindu news was free
still.
It was spot on.
Yeah, Yahoo is always so bad.
The Yahoo News.
Really.
Yeah.
Very, very short.
Very basic.
OK, Do you think it was an alien
there, Bootsy?
Maybe.
Do aliens scare you like death?
Well, like the big ones that
look like, you know, like alien,
Predator, all that stuff.
Yeah, those scare me.
The Predator ones, what do you
think the aliens look like?
What is, you know, the way he's
backlit the it's kind of, it's
kind of neat.
I just see the headphones in his
roundhead.
Oh yeah, like a silhouette.
To be honest, there's probably
they're probably not like aliens
like we picture.
They probably look just like us.
There probably are US, probably
other humans in other worlds,
and these things are probably
things that they're launching
out of the yard because their
technology's way better while
they're drinking beer.
So you think they're drinking
beer, launching shit out of
their yard the size of
Manhattan?
Yep, here it comes.
It's like, hey, you know what
we're going to do?
Let's send this one to Earth.
And they're like Yee ho.
That's a whole nother level of.
Shane Gillis is out there with
Peyton Manning on his Bud Light
trailer.
Redneck ingenuity.
Sydney Sweeney's running around
in her jeans.
Oh, Sweeney.
I've kind of a deep question A.
Deep question.
I just thought of.
The genes brought this up.
No, no, no.
I thought of it before that.
OK, so they say we are made in
God's image.
So God made everybody.
Did he also make the aliens at
that point?
Well, that was.
See, that's totally been The
thing is this.
The Bible says that there aren't
aliens.
Right.
Yeah.
So if there are, but he just
like, I'm just going to take
this corner of the universe over
here and put people on this one
thing here and.
Well, maybe they're demons.
Could be maybe that's where the
Incas went.
Maybe he wasn't sure what was
going to work, so he's going to,
you know, make some soft,
squishy pink people over here.
Maybe some lizard people over
here.
You think he doubled down a
little bit?
Yeah, out there, he's got some
monkey people.
He hedged his bet.
I'm sorry he didn't double.
Hedge his bet.
Yeah, Hedge his.
Bet yeah, trying to see which
ones would survive the.
Longest.
Yeah.
What's going to wear ahead?
The best.
Now they're all fighting each
other.
Let's see who wins.
It ain't gonna be us.
No, no, we're soft and squishy.
We're the soft squishy ones.
Speaking of aliens, I saw
Superman.
Oh, is it the movie you want to
go see?
Yeah, I saw.
This movie and.
It was amazing.
Was it?
Of course it was.
It was, but you're a Superman
fan.
I mean, first of all, I don't
understand anybody isn't a
Superman fan.
No, no, but you're you are, I
think, more of an excessive
Superman fan than, say, Boots or
I.
I think that I was more of a
skeptic going into this movie.
Well, I I'm quite skeptical
about this.
Well, the last four were
horrible.
Man of Steel?
You thought Man of Steel was
horrible?
Is Man of Steel the one that
begins where he's got a beard
and he goes on the oil platform?
Yes, that's my favorite one.
There you go.
I like that one the best.
No, I honestly thought that this
one was really well done.
And here's how I could gauge it.
I brought the the whole squad,
the kids, right?
And there's a teddy barometer,
right?
And if she says, hey, I want to
see that movie again right
afterwards, I know it was good.
Does she sit there through the
whole movie?
Oh, she tries.
Yeah, she tries.
She sits there and then she's
like, there are a couple of I
want to go, I'm ready to leave
now.
Can we go?
Can we go?
I think that would be more of a
barometer, the number of times
she asked to leave.
She said it twice, but at the
end of it she's like, I want to
watch that movie again.
Oh, so, you know, the Internet
is just flooded with people
talking smack about this movie?
Yeah.
Yeah, I've heard bad things.
The Internet is just evil.
They're just bad.
I don't like his outfit from
what I've seen in the clips.
Well is that it's more comic
based.
Oh, is it?
It looks like pajamas.
Like wool pajamas or something.
Yeah, it's more old school
comic.
Based.
Yeah, that's it.
Looks like the the old Captain
America outfit.
Like that type of fabric.
Well, they went back with the
red undies.
They gave him the red undies.
Oh, the red undies.
Yeah.
So how does he bleed?
He's not supposed to be able to
bleed.
The clips and the trailer showed
bleed.
He's not supposed to.
Why not?
Superman doesn't.
Bleed.
Superman always bled.
No, he's always bled.
When does he bleed?
Doesn't bleed in any other
movies.
Well, because the other movies
didn't fall the original.
Oh, and the comic book he
bleeds.
I got to tell you, man, this was
so well done.
It really was they, man.
I want to ruin it for anybody
but it's been like a month.
Spoiler spoiler alert, turn it
off.
Look, you know they come.
Back in 5 minutes.
So, OK, just all right.
So yeah.
So this is definitely a little
bit of a spoiler on Super So.
So first of all, Bradley Cooper
is his dad, which I thought was
hilarious.
I love Bradley Cooper and he's
only in there for a blip.
But apparently the translation
of the text is like, we're going
to send you to Earth and we want
you to have like, a bevy of
wives and, and, and spread your
seed across because they're
stupid people and stuff like,
I'm sure that that's what the
aliens think.
That's what made me think of it,
you know?
Bradley Cooper is the alien dad,
not the guy on the farm.
Correct.
OK, the guy on the farm is way
nicer.
Yeah, who plays the dad on the
farm?
I don't remember.
So nobody notable?
No, he is notable.
He is.
Notable and his eyes are
constantly moving like this.
Oh, Steve Buscevi.
No, that's a totally different.
That would be a funny dad.
His eyes.
Yeah, right.
Well, Clark.
Really got to get your shit
together right?
You know, I could see that.
No, but he's a he's a good he's
a good actor.
So yeah, no, it's a great movie.
I'd highly recommend anybody go
on seeing it.
For sure.
Go see it in the theaters.
Do it.
Just do it.
OK, Go ahead.
Continue.
Aliens over.
No.
We're getting SIGAR news unless
you have a social media minute.
I mean, you just said Superman.
That was Ken.
I do have like one kind of brief
social media minute, OK, And
it's something that's that that
I actually had a conversation
with Sean from Cigar TV after we
did an interview.
Yes.
And I do find this a little bit
frustrating.
Why is it that we get X amount
of views on a lot of our short
reels but people don't like it
or share it?
Laziness.
But oh, you're right.
You think that it's laziness?
Yeah, but you know, like I I'll
run into people all the time.
Like hey man, saw the post of
XYZ all the time.
Hilarious.
Love the shorts all the time.
I think I need to start asking,
did you like it?
Did you hit like right?
Because that would be good for
us if you could just like it.
Sure.
Or are we like some, you know,
side piece that you don't want
to talk about or something?
I don't want anybody know.
I don't want anybody know.
I'm watching.
Like, you guys are hilarious.
I'm I'm rooting for you.
Just quietly, right?
You know what I mean?
Like what?
Why?
Come on, dude.
I don't know.
Hit the like button.
Share.
Let's go.
Yeah, I mean, we're in the top
three, what, 5% of all podcasts
in the world?
Across the world, I'm pretty
sure that the Mirfeld guys, both
Jeremiah and Reinhart shared.
Yeah, they just shared the one
you did with them in it, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, where's everybody else?
Where else are?
People, it's about them.
Yeah, but you know all these,
but all the other guys in the
cigar industry or even not on
cigar industry that that see all
our stuff you'd think that they
would like and share, right Or
at the very least like.
We should start getting industry
people to do something like I
listen to the cigar house or
podcast, you should too.
Something like that.
I.
Think my next shirt's going to
say but did you like it and
share it?
Oh, there you go.
Gorilla smoking a cigar.
All right, cigar news.
That's my, that's my social
media.
Red meat lovers, Fritanga heads,
the stores did it.
It's supposed to be OK.
We don't have it.
I'm sure it's coming to us.
The newest size in Dunbar do it.
We never get it.
We never get first.
No, no, we're always redheaded
stepchild.
The newest size in Dunbar and
Tobacco and Trust Red Meat
Lovers line is on its way to
stores.
Oh, it hasn't shipped.
Yet nobody wants to talk about
us, Palmer.
They want it.
They want to be friends with us.
They think we're funny.
But they're like I can't, I
don't, I can't be associated.
With you can't be associated
with you in public.
Don't tell anybody Internet
people.
It's a 6 by 52 box pressed Toro
called Fritanga, named for a
style of Nicaraguan street food
centered around a grilling meat
on an open claim.
Pricing is set at 620-1625 per
Oh cigar.
That's not for the meat stick.
No, for the cigar the meat stick
in Nicaragua in.
Nicaragua, probably.
Like 2 bucks.
Oh under 6250 for a box of 10
cigars.
Red Meat Lovers line, which they
viewed in 2019, was created to
be paired with beef dishes and
was released as a collaboration
between Smoking Dunbarton
Tobacco and Trust and Red Meat
Lovers Club, an organization
that gathers for meat centric
events with a charitable aim.
It has a It has a blend that
uses a Connecticut broad leaf
wrapper, Mexican San Andreas
Negro binder and fillers from
Nicaragua and Pennsylvania.
Steve Saka, founder and the
blender of Dunbarton Tobacco and
trust calls into a size spicier
and beefier alliteration of the
meat red meat lovers blend which
is produced at Nicaragua.
American cigars essay.
Did he say it was spicier and
beefier, or did he say, oh, you
know, I really didn't want to
make the cigar, It was a
terrible idea.
Probably a little bit, but I
think that everybody's going to
love it.
So I made it anyways and screw
you all.
He hasn't been on social media
like that lately.
No, Nope.
He's disconnected a little bit.
Maybe he's on break.
Oh, he was taking a sabbatical.
His wife made him go hide in the
mountains and hey man,
somewhere.
You know what?
I get it.
Oh, yeah.
Good for him, Yeah.
The fratanga is a regular
production size and joins the
other 3 sizes in the line, the
Red Meat Lovers Beef stick, the
Red Meat Lovers Filet Mignon,
Red Meat Lovers Rib eye, Red
Meat Lovers Porterhouse.
The Fratanga size made his first
appearance at the Red Meat
Lovers dinner in March 14th,
which is part of the Great
Smoke, and been put on by
smoking.
Bloody, bloody, bloody, bloody
bloody.
He should make small ones and
call them beef jerky, but.
There's one called the beef
stick.
Beef stick.
That's a smaller one.
Is it smaller?
Yes, give me a Lance, Ariel.
Call it a Slim Jim.
Yes, I was going to say, he's
maybe one called the Slim.
Jim, everybody loves Slim Jims.
It'd be called the Slim Bob
because Slim Steve.
No, that's not a thing.
Slim, Steve.
Can't call it Slim Jim.
There's a copyright on that.
I don't think that they have a.
You think they have a copyright
on it?
Sure they do.
No way.
Yes.
On Slim Jim.
For tobacco products.
I forgot it for different
product lines.
Yeah, very possible.
That's the big guy.
Come in, come in, come in, come
in, come in, sit down.
Good.
Come in.
It's the 400th episode.
Yeah, episode without the
audience.
Yeah, we need our audience in
here.
Wait, you see, walk.
Around, don't worry, you're.
Fine.
But so you think there's a
copyright on the word Slim Jim
for?
No, probably not for tobacco.
I forgot the different
categories.
I was just thinking it as a just
a word.
Could you could you use?
Trademark.
Yeah.
Could you use something like a
ChatGPT image of Macho Man?
On that.
No, no, no.
That's a person likeness.
Yeah, but the big thing now.
Oh, he already has the soccer
squatch.
By the way, what's their new
person in Slim Jim?
By the way, none of us are
attorneys, so.
Yeah.
So these might not be correct,
though Jack was the attorney
when Jack.
Was yeah, when Jack was his
legal.
Knowledge.
We can check with him later if
you want to I guess.
Yeah, dude, you can just, you
can just walk right around us.
You're fine.
Just walk around, you're fine.
OK, You can crawl through the
middle whatever you want.
To do yeah, you can sit down and
sit on Mike's lap.
Well, not on my lap.
On the left but he likes it that
way.
You could be a chappy GPT image
of you.
I won't do it, just me.
I bet you I can get a ChatGPT,
maybe not an AI image to do it
like now put someone on this.
Well yeah, maybe some.
Yeah, a different service.
I just use ChatGPT.
Lambert is debuting 2 new Ocean
Breeze Vitolas at enter to back
2025 and entering back 2025, the
Lambert cigars will be showing
off 2 new Vitolas and Ocean
Breeze.
These two Vitolas are Ocean
Breeze Gordito and Ocean Breeze
Toro Grande.
It's the Air Premium release, so
we're not talking about anymore
moving on.
Who's Lambert?
I've heard this my name before.
No, it's in Europe.
I don't know why half wheel
covers.
They like to cover stories about
cigars.
We don't.
Well, I guess maybe half Wheels,
an international site, they're
expanding, yeah.
Maybe they're trying to draw in
those people.
Or maybe it was just the.
Slow Newsweek?
Yeah, could be.
Can Stella Group the Resilient
begin shipping?
Oh, so that's the end of the
Lampert thing?
Yeah, I'm not covered anymore.
We're never going to see this
cigar.
Is it Lampert or Lambert?
Pert, is that all you had?
Yeah.
It was more, but it's in a
European release to a cigar
we've never heard of.
OK.
So moving on.
That should be the next shirt,
the end of the Lambert.
Yeah, a little Amber.
Moving on, Consella Group's A
resilient Business Beginning
shipping, Michael.
Oh yeah.
Oh.
You familiar with who this?
Is the Constella group, yes.
Oh, I think I am all right the.
Resilient, a new line from
Constella Group that the company
debuted at the 2025 PCA
Convention to trade show, is
beginning to ship to retailers
today.
It's a line developed by Luciano
Morales.
I have Canstella Group, formerly
CEO of Luciano Cigars, former
partner of ATL Cigars, formerly
involved with the Las Ignis,
associated with Maker cigars,
with Rick Rodriguez, formerly
involved with Ave. with Ave.
Prime, Age, Ace prime, sorry
typo, Ace Prime, Tiago cigars,
Pichardo cigars, White Panda
Cigars and Peter James Cigars.
And Adrian Gonzalez, who play?
Oh, and now he says here with
Adrian Gonzalez, who played for
15 seasons in MLB soon enough
for the Los Angeles Dodgers,
Boston Red Sox, San Diego
Padres, Texas Rangers and New
York Mets.
Was that everything that was on
that article?
Did you Add all that?
Yes.
Why?
Possibly.
OK.
He earned 5 selections of the
All Star Game, 4 Golden Glove
Awards and two Silver Slugger
Awards and a Partridge and a
Pear.
Tree.
Wow.
He also represented Mexico in
the 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo.
No wonder he's hanging out with
this guy.
They both have such experience
and everything.
Pricing is said at What do you
think of Zoo?
Cigar is going to be Michael.
Boots. 15 bucks.
Baseball player from the Olympic
Games in Tokyo. 4 Golden Gloves,
one giant chicken award,
something I don't know, $14.00
boots. 15. $24.00 a cigar,
American dollars, $480 per box
of 20.
That's unbelievable.
The initial production run was
limited to how many boxes of
cigars they making, gentlemen.
Oh, 1000, boxes 500.
Yeah, 1000, He remember that
from before.
Yeah, but Mary Alice told half
plans they had more size about
the end of the year.
The factory that made the cigars
are not being disclosed because
why?
Why aren't they disclosing the
factory, Michael?
Why aren't they disclosing the
factory?
Yes, or the blend.
Well, factory at the moment.
I have no idea.
Oh, but it's the same one that's
producing the Elaviv, another
new line from Constella Group.
Because there is no factory.
Don't they have their own
factory?
I don't know.
They're not saying who it is.
I would.
I thought they had their own
factory.
I thought they had their own
farm.
Don't they have their own?
Yeah, I thought they don't,
apparently I can't even keep up
with it, you know what I mean?
Like, I'm just so confused.
There's not much going on.
None of it makes any sense.
And I'm not going to make a
short clip out of it because I
don't need some diatribe of
bullshit from somebody else on
there commenting about it.
And it's just not true.
I'm just not.
So I'm not going to.
I'm not going to dignify it.
And yeah, wish them the best.
Go get them.
Go get them.
Fiero Tego's released in the
2024 vintage of Elegante and
Generoso in late August.
My man Herclotz.
This month I just want to be his
photographer for a week and
follow him around and take the
pictures.
Yeah, we got to walk.
We got to walk through here.
Because there's no way he does
it himself.
There's none of you know this,
right?
There's no way he gets those set
up with a timer on his phone.
He's.
Just a guy.
There's got to be somebody
following him with a real
camera.
Yeah, Michael, I will follow you
around for four or five days.
Yeah, not you.
I'm talking you got.
That kind of time.
I'm talking to Mr. Herklatz.
I know who you're talking to.
You got that kind of time, OK.
Three days I'll take three days,
three days, a long weekend.
Maybe it'll take a long weekend,
I don't know.
I'm not going to have a day off
here and what, 15 days straight?
So who knows Is.
That what's going to happen.
You have 15 days of hard work.
Of hard work.
Yeah, every day is hard work
here.
But why you don't have a day
off?
No, not since last week.
Yeah, yeah.
Why is that?
Probably worked the weekend
upstairs.
Oh, you're filling in right?
I am the only extra person.
Yeah, I mean, you think you'd
be.
Did you take any wholesale
orders this weekend?
Actually, I did on Saturday.
Yeah, that's the one from smoke
rings.
Smoke rings.
Yeah, the one.
Yeah.
Well, 9:00 on Saturday night.
It's not too bad.
That's how it works.
Yeah, well, the sales never go
away.
Nope.
It's 24 hour.
Can we get back to the store?
No, I'm having fun here.
Yeah, yeah. 15 days of
consecutive work.
Yes, I I got news.
Well, it's probably more than
that because you're never really
off.
Yeah, I got news for you.
Yeah, it gets worse.
It just gets.
Worse, I know.
Yeah, it was a little hard to
get up this morning.
Did you cut the grass?
Yes, it did Saturday morning
before I came to work here.
Yeah, I saw your TikTok.
Yes yes did I put that on TikTok
yeah there's normally with this
I stopped doing the cigar wins
because they're.
You're blowing stuff with post
onia or whatever.
I didn't really put that on
TikTok.
Maybe it was on another.
One, it might have brought on
something else.
Yeah, because they're abandoned
me on TikTok and then with a
cigar on it, they shut down.
You're evil.
Yeah.
Cigar.
Bad tobacco, tobacco bad, bad
tobacco.
OK.
All right, go ahead, continue
with your.
Story This month, the newest
vintage Fiero Otego's Elegante
and Generoso lines are coming to
stores, though they aren't the
2025 vintages.
Instead, Fiero Otego is
releasing the 2024 editions
after they received 22 months of
aging.
Why is that?
Weren't ready I.
Don't know you got headphones,
I'll call them.
No, well, it's not handy.
We'll call them on the Patreon.
The company says that it takes a
wine inspired approach to
releasing them in vintages,
rather then aiming to replicate
the previous release as we do
with all our core blends.
This product, this project
offers the opportunity to
reinterpret and Polish the
experience of each blend
annually, says Michael Herclat's
co-owner and blender Fiero Tego
in a press release.
Each year, we approach these
blends with the same commitment
to style and structure as I put
into my photographs, but also
with the freedom to let the
tobacco speak for themselves.
Our goal is to be captured, as
in a photograph, the best
possible expression of elegant,
elegant, say and generoso in
each annual production.
As such as cigars wear a
bandwidth.
Don't you eat over there?
Yeah.
This is going for food.
We can hear the rustling are.
You good, but how are you
flipping cameras when you're
eating chips?
Though the 20/24/2024 cigars
received additional maturation,
a nod to the wine making
practice of late release, the
rolling process was completed
late 2023 and cigars have been
rusting ever since.
You know there is a mute button
for your for your microphone.
You can't hear it on my
microphone.
I bet you can.
We'll see.
The Fiero Ortego Elegance uses
an Ecuadorian wrapper, a
Dominican binder and fillers
from the Dominican Republic to
create a full body profile that
the company says evokes flavors
of cinnamon toast, cedar flan,
macadamia, cream, nut brittle,
toasted brioche and white
burgundy.
Flan.
Flan.
Just like a.
Brioche, brioche.
Who said that?
Half Wheeler, Michael.
Cream.
No.
No, Michael.
Mr. Herclan said that he's like
flan.
Yeah, you.
Know what I taste?
Flan.
It is produced by Quesadas
Tobacco de Exportanciente
factory Exportacion Exportacion.
So phonetically, that's how you
would say it.
Yeah, Exportacion.
Yes, the factory is in LICUI
Lice.
I don't know.
I'm not going there.
You get stuff in your hair.
LICUI.
LICEY.
LICEY lice, lice.
Lice, Dominican Republic.
Lessee.
There's not a OOM lot after the
Y.
There's not a OOM lot.
Not the woop, no.
Swoop.
According to the company,
darker, more savory flavors such
as allspice, barrel aged Porter,
mocha latte, toffee, Turkish
coffee and Wagyu marked the
Ferrero Tego generoso.
Wagyu no flying.
No flying.
This is a darker, more exotic
cigar Michael.
It uses a Honduran sun grown
wrapper atop a Nicaraguan binder
and fillers which were selected
to create a focus on the
complexity and depth of the
flavor.
These cigars made by Placencia
Cigars and Estelli Nicaragua,
both cigars.
Both cigars are offering at a 6
by 50 Toro matola and presented
in boxes of 10 cigars.
You gotta say nobody says can
use as a travel humidor for
storage.
Flan pricing is said at how
many?
How many per box?
At how many per box?
Or dollars.
Dollars. 2 hundo.
Boots, put your mouth full of
chips.
Is it a box of 20 or 10?
It's a box of 10.
No, I think it's going to be
like 250. 240.
Bam.
American.
American.
Well, you get to keep. 24
Everybody's hitting 24.
You get to keep the box.
Was knocking 20 fours out the
park.
The cigars are scheduled to
begin shipping on August 27th.
This is the fourth release for
each blend as they debuted in
2021.
I got to tell you, Poston is
looking like quite the value
cigars.
They're almost like a bundle
now.
Geez Louise.
All right, you guys ready for
the 400th episode of What with
the What's the score?
Yes.
We're doing.
This We had a celebrity that was
going to call in today, but we
had to reschedule.
He had to reschedule.
Well, we also had to reschedule.
We also had to reschedule.
Which worked out good for him
too.
He said that's fine.
So he will be on next week.
He'll be on the 400th and 400
and 1111.
All right, this is from August
4th, 2025.
Brooks Whittington.
It's a limited edition cigar.
It's a redux.
It's the Tetuahe pork
tenderloin.
Supposed to.
Tell me when I have ash on me
do.
You have ash on you.
Still there under the fold.
You stop doing it.
He's busy eating.
He has chips on him.
No, I had to put on my shirt.
He put on his alcohol chest
shirt for the camera.
Not really.
All right, come on, somebody
give me a score.
Pork Tenderloin Redux.
Tenderloin it is the 2025, but
the review is a redux.
They've done it before.
Our scores have been reset.
Mikey goes first since he was
the winner.
You want me to go first?
Yeah, that's what he just said,
91. 91 Booty.
Does Brooks like tat wise?
Is that what you're saying?
I don't know.
You tell me.
I hate that I don't know this
guy.
You don't know, Brooks.
I love.
Brooks, I know who he is, but I
don't know his he's.
The ball he's.
The cigars that he likes.
He should have reviewed the SPC
because even if it was plugged I
still would have done a 90.
Yeah, I mean, this is a great
cigar.
I mean, it should.
It should go up there.
Let's go 93.
You had the Tenderloin.
Before you said 93, you said 91.
I did all right.
It's a Tattwahi pork tenderloin
from 2025.
Country of origin, Knee Ragua
factories, My father's cigars,
rapper.
It's AUS Connecticut Broadleaf
binder Nicaragua filler
Nicaragua length.
It's a 5 and an eighth inches
ring gauge 52.
It's around MSRP is $13.
Bundle of 25 is $325.
It was released on May 2025.
Number of cigars released.
That's not really important for
our purposes.
He only smoked the one for the
redux.
Really, there's always 3.
So I'm going first, right?
As per your request you want me
to go 1st 90. 92 all.
Right, we have a special clue.
Oh.
This is one of the rare cases
when we are doing a redux review
of a new version of a cigar and
not an age sample of a cigar we
have already reviewed, says
Charlie Minato.
That's a special clue.
So normally what they do is on a
redux is they do the same cigar
they originally reviewed, but
it's been aged let's say 2
years, right?
OK, so this is a redux of the
original, but it is a brand new
cigar, OK.
So it's not.
Aged extra time.
Got it.
I'm at 90. 92.
All right, first clue, first
thing I noticed about this
incarnation of the Pork
Tenderloin is the band an
aggressive, and if I'm being
honest, not exactly attractive
red band with white type that
matches the color scheme of the
exterior bundle.
A far cry from the original
release which had a which had no
band at all.
A far cry.
Yes.
So it's got a band.
He's not very happy with it, but
it is better than what they did
before.
These are the things that throw
me for a loop.
I mean, were there bills due or
something like are they, are
they all agitated?
Right.
Yeah, some things just set.
Them off?
Have you seen this or smoked a
cigar?
I have.
I think we did it on the show.
No.
Did we?
I've had one and I would have
bought it.
You know what I think?
Didn't Pete give us one?
No, no.
No, no, I can't get Pete to
message me back to do a come up
here.
Hernandez.
Oh, Pete Hernandez.
Yeah, I'm gonna talk about
Johnson.
No.
No, Pete Johnson.
Pete Johnson won't call you.
No, I've messaged him, he's
responded to that, but all
right.
Poor gentleman, you're at 90.
I can't get him to commit.
What are you at?
He's at 90, I'm at 92, but this
is the new 1, so it's just crazy
to me.
I go 8989 Mr. Booty.
This has got to be in the 90s
Ninety 2. 928992 After about 10
puffs, the spice recedes
noticeably.
A new flavor of powdery cocoa
nibs and roasted peanuts take
over the profile.
What about flan?
No flan, no flan.
That is the first time I've ever
heard flan mentioned in a flavor
profile.
It is the flan.
I'm going to.
Tell you and it tastes like
flan.
I've had flan.
I like flan.
I couldn't tell you what it
tastes like right now.
Sweet.
Well, right.
But so does everything else
that's got sugar in here.
Well, yeah, I guess.
All right, second clue about the
cocoa nibs and the roasted
peanuts.
So does the spice going away
upset him?
It doesn't sound like it does.
I'm going to go back up tonight.
Maybe he doesn't like peanuts.
Maybe.
He's allergic to peanuts.
Maybe it's a peanut allergy.
Could be 9090. 92 I'm sticking.
During the final third, the
flavors in the profile mellow
out and become slightly less
distinct, but it's only
noticeable because of how rich
the profile was during the first
half.
Liked it, got dull at the end.
Only thing left are the final
thoughts.
Gentlemen, I'm.
Going to stay 90.
I was going to go 89.
I'm going to stay 90.
I'll go 91.
Along with the original Black
Label Corona Gorda, the original
Pork Tenderloin will always hold
a special place in my heart.
It was in remains of this day
one of the best non Cuban cigars
I've ever smoked due to its
combination of savory flavor
profile, incredible balance and
great construction.
However, interestingly, the new
version has quite a bit in
common with what I remember of
the original blend, including
strong flavors of coffee beans,
charred meat, and dark
chocolate, as well as some nice
Maple syrup sweetness on the
retro hill.
I would also be remiss if I did
not point out the amazing
construction, especially the
burn line, which was one of the
best looking burn lines of any
cigar I have smoked this year.
Having said that, the flavors in
the profile of the version do
become a bit muddy and slightly
less defined in the final third,
especially when compared to the
amazing first third.
The success rate for release of
Legendary Blends is all over the
map, but this incarnation of one
of my favorite cigars ever gets
as close to the original as
we'll probably ever see.
Son of bitch, I'm gonna go 91.
Booty.
Man, this sounds like the cigar
in his eyes.
Should rate 100 right?
Just the way he describes it.
Obviously he loves, that's why.
Yeah.
We go 92. 91.
Wow, yes, wow.
Love it.
Unbelievable man all.
Right now Boots.
So Boots lost that one.
Didn't Brooks not a rate
something higher than a 91?
Yes.
All right boots, if you would
like to make it a tie, what was
the original score from 2010?
You get one guess, no clues.
If you get it right, then the
then that one becomes a tie.
Not a win.
For what?
This is one of those rare
Episode 400 extra rules.
Oh, it's also only today.
Today only. 91. 95.
Really so?
That's a perfect That's the
highest score.
That's yeah, that's like the
highest thing they they give is
a 90.
Five that's so it's crazy how
they score completely just all
over the.
Place so he got no bonus.
He got no bonus, you still get
the win. 95.
I'm the best.
All right, February 2nd, 2010,
another Brooks Arturo Fuente
cigars.
Dominican Republic.
Arturo Fuente Hemingway Classic
Sun Grown.
You want to go first.
Well, I have to 'cause he goes
first, 'cause you won, yeah.
Oh, no, that's OK.
Whatever you want.
You want me to go first or you
want to go first, Doesn't
matter.
You want.
Here we go.
Beat you sufficiently.
Dominating this game.
Whatever you would like.
Look, here's the problem, right?
This guy just he's just rated a
tattawahe, right?
Nicaraguan, Connecticut
broadleaf super high.
Now he's going to go to a
Fuente.
Come from 2010.
Right, this is.
But still, it's a Dominican
cigar.
Where is this guy's palate?
Where is it?
In his mouth.
I don't purposely pick the same
reviewer, just the way it worked
out.
Yeah, it's in his mouth.
This is Brooks again.
You know, here's you want to
know what I think the problem
is, Boots your lack of
accountability.
You're the problem.
Fix the problem.
No, yeah, this palette is crazy.
OK, so again you.
Know what?
No, I don't think his palette is
crazy.
I think his his his logic of
numbers is crazy.
Well, we don't know how what
they're scoring system, how?
We don't have to do that.
Right.
I think it's a hat and they
fucking put all these numbers in
it.
And yet here I am, just nailing
it time after time.
Well.
You got a good hat.
You know what's funny is you
were also at 91, but you
shifted.
I was yeah, 'cause I was like,
oh OK, this guy's like, oh, I
love it.
This is great the burn wise.
Purpose.
The original, Yeah, I was gonna.
Get that back end though is what
crushed it down.
Four points off.
It was not even close to the
original, obviously.
Maybe 4 points is a Coco nib to
him or?
Something still an A bro 91 or a
94 or a 95.
It's still a let.
Me tell you if you put a coffee
bean in your mouth, a Coco nib
and whatever else he fucking
said, it tastes good all
together.
Nutmeg.
All right, Booch, come on, give
it a score.
Are you going to go or am I
going to go?
86.
All right, my good fucking
number.
That is a good number.
I got it.
I fucking.
Picked one out of a hat.
I got to tell you that is a good
number.
What did he just?
Say 86. 86 I like that 187.
All right, this is the Arturo
Fuente Hemingway Classic Sun
grown in from the Dominican
Republic.
Taba Calera Fuente.
It's at their factory.
Ecuadorian sun grown wrapper,
unknown binder, Dominican
fillers.
It's a 7 by 48 perfecto.
MSRP back in 2010 is $7.90.
Date released oh, 2003, but it's
a 2010 review.
Great price, great size.
Probably not a great cigar
though.
I think I've smoked this before.
The sun grown is not. 22 years
ago.
No, I did not smoke at 22.
Years ago.
No, no, that's when it came.
Wow, that's when it came.
Out so long it's an old cigar.
That's when I graduated high
school.
Right the well.
Apparently Brooks was reviewing
cigars.
Yeah.
Let's go.
I don't feel so old.
The sun Crone's not good.
I got to go 85.
I got to go down.
Oh it.
Went down.
It went down just by the
description.
I'm holding 87. 87 Yeah, the
cigar itself is quite rough to
the touch, with a very little
oil to speak of.
Hates Fuentes.
Brooks hates Fuentes.
He hates Fuentes.
Oh my goodness.
That that was it.
That's it. 85.
So did he go up or down?
I stayed.
He stayed.
I must say 87. 87 Next clue what
I'm.
Hoping that maybe at some point
he lightened up a smidge because
I know that he pelted one really
bad.
That was a fun day before.
All right, next clue.
There seems to be very little
actual flavor so far.
Oh good.
Why not Let's go 86, let's just
dabble and both.
You went up one.
There's very little flavor.
You know what?
I'm going to go up a score.
Do you see where the problem is?
I.
Just don't know how shitty the
cigar is to him.
Do you see where the problem is?
But it was bad.
We should be in the 60s at this
point.
OK, well, I'm going to move to
80.
I'm going to move 80. 22. 7 It's
a single digit.
It's A7 82.
You're an 82, yes.
And what's he at?
8680.
Six he went.
Up, no flavor, gotta move it up.
Yeah, baby, I can't taste shit.
Okay, perfect, let's fucking get
higher.
You know what the But you said
87.
That's only four off of the 91
off of.
Yeah, but then he just went
down.
But I know, but I'm just saying
like first of all, I bet you
this cigar is probably going to
rate like 89.
You think so?
Yeah, I bet you it's going to
me.
Too.
Maybe you're just really
optimistic.
At the end it turned and it
tasted amazing.
It's the.
Greatest You know what?
Just like the poor.
The final third is the greatest
cigar I've ever had.
Yeah.
Final clue before the final
thought.
That's it.
No, we got one more clue.
Then you have the final thought.
Out of nowhere the cigar gets
extremely bitter.
Not the well let's keep smoking
and it will get better bitter,
but more like, let's put this
cigar down bitter.
This piece of sheet, yeah, I'm
going to have to go, man.
You're at 82 See, that makes me
question myself.
I'm.
Going to have to go 90.
Bitter Want to put it down 97
Greatest cigar.
You know what this is, but he
would rate it high if it was
bitter and shitty and dead
light.
Didn't light, can't get it to
light.
Not sure what it tastes like.
You said 82. 83 No, he said.
He's at 82.
Oh, I'm at 79 now.
I'm going 79.
Dear God.
Final thought.
Bold.
I'm making a bold move.
Disappointment does not even
begin to describe what I was
feeling at the end of this
cigar.
This thing should not rate.
I was expecting a fusion of two
of my favorite cigars and
instead I got a foul tasting
mess.
Every time I hear about a cigar
that I have been wanting to try,
it gets bad ratings.
The first thing I ask is where
was cigar came from and where
had it been stored, as storage
conditions can quite can be a
huge factor in the quality of
the final smoke.
I know exactly where these
cigars have been since they were
released, and I have to assume
that the specific sticks have
just gone way past their prime,
perhaps never to return to
anything close to their formal
former glory.
Glory.
Glory for the glory for Rome
for.
The glory for.
Rome.
We do it for Rome.
Gentlemen, final scores.
Boots.
You know, he wanted me to go
first because he knew that this
guy was going to rate really bad
on a Fuente cigar.
You know what actually, if you
watched the video, I did not
give a flying fuck if you went
first or last.
Doesn't matter to.
Me, he said.
He so so trounced you in the
first one.
All right, I'm going to go 80.
Oh, perfect.
Then did he go back up?
No, he went.
Up, I thought he went up.
Again, I'm going to stick at 79.
It's probably going to rank
lower than that, but now I know
I beat him. 65.
Boom 60 fucking 5.
Do you see how that works?
This is the lowest rated cigar
they've ever done.
Do you see how I just crushed
you again?
'Cause you, you just went under
me, yeah.
It wasn't that hard.
If you'd at least said 75, you
would have put me to a test.
Like damn, do I need to go lower
than 75?
But.
Brooks is so over the all over
the place.
No, he's not.
You just rank everything high.
I mean, you're the guy that
ranks, no?
No, I do not rank everything.
Yes you do.
Yes you do.
Your.
Interpretation of everything is
great.
Hey, this cigar sucked.
It was terrible at first.
It was rough to the touch and it
was bitter on the tail end of
it.
So much to it, where I wanted to
quit.
Would you buy it?
Yes, that would be your
response.
You'd be like, of course, how
much is it?
Yeah, I'll take 12 of.
Them I would.
You know what?
I don't think I've ever bought a
Fuente out of Cigar Hustler or
anywhere.
Never an opus.
Nope.
Never a I'm going to tell you
there's some I.
Have smoked 2 opuses and they
were both bought for me.
OK, next Patreon we're we're
going to review a Casa Cuba.
Please remind me.
OK, alright.
It's a it's a less expensive
Fuente.
It's not a less expensive.
I thought it was like 10-12
dollars. 1012 no, it's I don't
know does that that's not a
lesser expensive Fuente.
Well, I was comparing it to an
opus, like she said.
Curly head is a lesser
expensive.
Curly head.
That's what I was.
Thinking curly head?
No.
This is the last blend of
Carlito Fuente's father before
he passed.
Gotcha.
OK, so this is a Coraline.
It, yeah, I guess it is to some
degree.
It's an L It's like it's a
limited, but it's not extremely
limited.
Oh, you know what?
Maybe I had three because did we
have a Casa Cuba in Vegas?
Probably when we did.
Don't worry, Hold on, let's not
get ahead of ourselves.
You said.
I just don't think they're good.
You said Fuente sucks, we'll
smoke that.
And if you think that sucks, I
have questions.
However, you're eternally
optimistic about every single.
It doesn't matter what somebody
says on on their review, You
could they could tell.
I mean the guy flat out told you
it sucked and you struggled to
get to the.
Patron, we're doing this cigar.
You struggled to get to the 80
like you struggle and I'm like,
oh, this is a not only did you
like let me win, you gave me a
layup, bro.
You didn't even put me in a
position where I had to think.
But there's been cigars that are
good that he's rated right
there.
He smoked or whatever and then
he rated like low like in the
70s.
Go back to the the video, go
back for the past three months
and watch our half wheel review
and how you rate these things.
And every single time, I'm
willing to bet you're over at
least 90% of the time we're
going to be over.
You're playing this cigar each
week.
He's playing you.
No point.
That no, I'm not, because if I'm
going first, I have I well, it
it really.
Doesn't matter who goes first,
who goes last, because once he
starts, say, once one of you
start saying his score, you can
play off the other.
If you don't think you know what
it is, but you think it's going
to be bad, you just have to
always be lower than him.
Well, if you think he's making a
stupid move and it's going to be
higher, you just always have to
be higher than.
Here's what I do.
I go off of the cigar and I go
off the guy who's smoking the
cigar, right?
That's where I go.
Now, if he wants to make it
super easy for me by giving me a
rating that there's no
competition, then yeah, I don't
have to think.
At that point, I no longer have
to think.
And that's what happened at the
end of that game.
So get your shit together.
Pull your head out your.
Ass and fucking dial in.
I want some.
Competition Listener of the
Week.
So back on me, we got a listener
of the week, Juan de Jesus.
Oh, mm.
Hmm.
Shop of the Week, Michael.
Juan de Jesus has also acquired
a shirt from Chapter pod.com.
Yes, he's one of the people that
enjoy his shirt.
Thank you for being an avid
listener, We appreciate your
support.
Juan's a great guy.
Juan is a great guy.
Oh, careful, you're on fire.
Do I have a shop of the week?
No, I have a shop of the week
old times Claremont will.
I will be on Wednesday from
11:00 to 3:00.
This Wednesday.
This Wednesday.
OK, is that it?
By the way, our LFD events
cancelled.
Oh yeah.
You know, apparently our Rep
didn't commit.
Oh, something that just happened
because I asked Greg this
morning if he was going to get
more details.
Yeah, no.
Well, the details are he didn't
realize that it was a serious
date, I guess, or something like
that.
I don't, I don't know the
details, but I here's what I
know moving forward, I'll just
be calling the office for my
orders.
I'm not.
Doing yeah, from what I've
heard.
This is ridiculous.
The second or third problem
we've had with the Rep.
Yeah.
So gotcha.
So do we have a different amount
we're doing?
What do we have something
different we're doing?
We haven't solved that problem
now.
Now we're behind the 8 ball a
little bit with two weeks
notice.
Yep, no pressure.
No, but we love pressure here.
Cigar Hustler.
But we'll figure it out.
Yep, there'll be something
exciting going on.
Yes.
All right, boot, You want to
plug anything?
No.
OK, good talk.
All right, All right, Thank you,
everybody.
It's been episode 400.
It's been a lot of fun doing 400
of these.
We would like to make money.
Oh, you know what?
What?
I appreciate you guys for
letting me do this podcast with
you guys.
This is the 400th one.
What?
I've been here for what, three
years now?
I have.
No idea.
Three of them.
Probably just three episodes.
Maybe, maybe 3, Maybe just three
of them.
It is a fun time, I do enjoy
doing the show.
I look forward to this.
This is the thing I look forward
to every week.
Yes, stressing me out.
Sometimes the only one.
You're the one that you hate.
You hate this.
I don't hate it, but it's a lot
of it's a lot of work for me
each week.
Look at what he's wearing.
Of course he loves it.
You think he wears this in a
grocery store?
Hold on, wait a second, wait a
second.
You think that this is just a
lot of work for you?
I think it's more work for me
than you 2.
Really, this is the end of the
show.
So you think that I don't devote
3 fucking days to short?
Clips.
You do do.
You are?
Yes.
After the fact.
You're right.
I apologize.
Yes, you do do all the clips.
And sometimes it's five days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just meant to prepare for the
show, not after the show.
But you're right, if you put it
all together, yes, you are
right, You do as much as I do.
This is in Palmer.
Live the great life, it'll be
greatly missed.
Oh, it's, it's not that I just,
you know what?
I just don't want somebody to
feel like they they do all of
the work and then no one else is
pulling with them.
No.
No, you do.
Yes you do do all the clips.
Sorry I I did should have
misspoke.
Yes, how about those lovely
shirts that are coming up all
the time?
Brittany's doing a great job.
Brittany, thank you for.
Making Oh yeah, who's creating
the design and putting them on
the site?
Well, you put them on the site,
but we made that last.
Make sure you get your Alcatraz
1.
Yeah, Limited edition chapter,
pod.com, Alcatraz, New York.
Visit the Statue of Liberty.
I think the SBC share is going
to be a big hit.
I think it should do well.
Yeah.
All right.
That look nice.
OK, all right, all right.
Everybody happy now?
400th.
Episode 400.
This is what happens when I
don't work.
Out I was trying to congratulate
these guys and thank them and I
turned into.
A you know what between mom and
dad, I appreciate you buddy.
Thank you for all your hard work
and I just want you to know you
do a great job over there.
Very good.
And Palmer acknowledges that
because he tried doing it one
week and he realized that it was
not easy.
It's not easy.
It is hard to do if you Add all
the yeah.
It was even it's even harder
when you're me and Palmer's
sitting in that chair and you're
sitting in that chair and you
guys yell at me the whole time.
Switch cameras.
I don't switch to the cameras.
I will tell you this.
Though we can't.
We need to set up so we can see
what camera is on, but we need
we need a second monitor.
I you know what?
Here's one that's really kind of
crazy for you, though.
I think that you do a better job
of this when Ginger's not in the
room.
Oh, it's right.
Yeah, you're right.
You really do you.
Mean like talking wise.
Just the whole thing in general,
yeah.
I mean, it was a little rough
for me today that when we get on
the Patreon, I got something to
say about this thing, this
cigar.
Well, let's go.
Let's get that out of the way
and we're done with it all.
Right.
Thanks, guys.
Bye.
Goodbye, bye.
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Show Notes
Cigar Hustlers Podcast – Episode 400
We made it to 400! This week we take a trip down memory lane, revisiting our Top 5 most-watched episodes on YouTube— from Phil’s Nicaraguan jungle disappearance to epic chats with Skip Martin and Brian Desind. We also reflect on our journey to becoming one of the top 5% of podcasts worldwide, share some of our favorite guest moments, and look ahead to what’s next. Plus, trending news, cigar updates, and maybe a little trouble along the way… because it wouldn’t be a Hustlers episode without it.