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February 5, 2026· 1h 3m

ACHP 462 Cigars, Iguanas, Bahama Breeze and Samatha Guthrie

ACHP 462 Cigars, Iguanas, Bahama Breeze and Samatha Guthrie

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And we're on.

Welcome to Cigar Star podcast

episode 462.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host.

And with me today, as always,

it's Phil.

Not sure I like this mask any

better.

Mcguffey, did you cut to your

camera?

I like it.

And engineering and my Co host

Mikey.

I did a new episode of Preston

with Preston today and I'm in

such a good mood now step on

Kelly.

A great mood, super good.

I want you to know that you made

the episode yesterday or today

or whatever that came out.

Yeah, it says 261.

Oh, it doesn't, yeah.

On which?

On which format?

Because I noticed it on one and

I fixed it YouTube.

Well, who's counting?

We don't know what number it is.

Anyway, we do five of these a

week.

You're lucky it gets any

numbers.

I'm going to just start going

12345 on today's show.

Bahama Breeze is going away.

We have a Guthrie update.

Actually we have two Guthrie

updates cause things are

happening every moment with that

poor lady.

Oh boy, Fishback is back in the

news.

Florida iguanas hate the cold

for an even bigger reason.

Now an update to the Florida no

English no drive story.

I found some things out last

night.

OK then in cigars Utah may be

able to buy online cigars Bocock

is Bo back in the news.

Padilla cigars A and we have a

portal entry from the most

portal guy we know.

Then we wrap the show up with a.

What's the score?

There's a lot of stuff today.

There's a lot going on in the

world, Phil Mcguffey.

But Mikey, before we get into

any of that, how do we get into

that chapter pod swag?

And before you start, somebody

wants to just buy their own damn

patch and make their own beanie.

OK, first of all, the person who

asked for that patch.

Yes, that's Paul.

Oh, is it?

Yeah.

Oh, he wants to make his own

hat, not his own beanie.

Yeah, that's Paul I.

Didn't even look at the name, I

just saw the comment.

Paul's a part of the team.

Yes, Paul can have a patch.

Oh yeah, look at that, Paul.

He's also got a broke lighter.

He's got a broken lighter.

He texted me last night, he's

got a broke.

His postonia lighter is not

working.

He's going.

To have to come in for that.

That's what he said.

He said you have reached a

non-emergency number of the

Postonia company.

Please call Greg you're.

Going to have to stop in for

that one for repair.

And yeah.

So what you want to do though,

is like and subscribe wherever

you're viewing or watching the

show and then check out Chapter

pod.com for all of our swag

where you buy 1, you get the 2nd

140% off and you spend $100 or

more, you get free shipping.

Still a free shipping?

I'm very close to having this

beanie thing squared away.

How many more have you melted?

I I keep going back to like a

test 1 to screw up like I

already have a screwed up beanie

so I keep using that to try and

lock in and figure it out.

So I think I think I may have it

solved.

I'll let you know tonight.

Is it the heat application

that's the?

Problem it's it's a little bit

of everything it's it's heat and

the pressure 'cause you don't

want to add too much pressure to

it, 'cause you don't want to

stretch it and break the fabric

so.

Has the fabric melted on on the

test 1?

No.

Well, I mean, I gave mine to

Phil, right?

Right.

And he's like, what's wrong with

it?

It's fine.

I know that the fabric is

screwed up a little bit, not

that anybody else could tell,

but I know and I won't release

something like.

That is it a problem because

maybe it's it's a porous

material where like the hat is a

flat solid surface and the.

It's it can be stretched.

Right.

It's got some weave to it this

morning, so when you stretch it,

the holes get bigger.

Yeah.

So just a question of fine

tuning the pressure.

I think I might be able to use

the actual hat press that we

bought.

So, oh, I'm going to give it a

run tonight.

All right.

Good deal.

When I get home from basketball

practice.

We will cross our fingers.

Yes, that this is it.

Is it?

Yeah, well, I mean they'll.

Be 80° in Florida next week.

Good timing.

Well, if they jump, first of

all, it's not for you.

If they jump on the site after

they're watching this YouTube,

maybe they'll be on there.

Oh.

Who knows?

Check out chapter pod.com.

That teaser there, people.

Yeah.

You buy three of them, you get

free shipping.

Also, we opened up a new Postana

account.

Yes.

Yeah, you know the name.

The one yesterday or the one

last week?

Yeah, 1 yesterday.

The one yesterday is crap.

This is funny something

tobacconist.

I can't remember off the top of

my head.

Well, we did Northport Cigars

last week.

We didn't mention that one.

We didn't.

Nope.

Prime.

Prime tobacconist.

Yeah, that is it.

Arturo Diaz opened up yesterday.

His stuff will ship.

Oh, UPS guys already come.

They ship today.

Prime tobacconist in in

Connecticut In Connecticut.

Oh, you know, the, the city.

Milford.

Yeah, there you go.

Prime Tobacco's Milford, CT

Thank you so much for joining us

and being a part of the Postania

family.

And we didn't mention North

Cigars.

Northside Cigars.

Northport Cigars.

Northport I thought I did.

I apologize.

I don't think we did.

OK.

So yeah, thanks.

I would have been there at the

end of the month.

And it looks like boss cigars.

Placed another order.

Is yeah, now back on track with

us?

Yes.

Carrollton, GA Yep.

Shout out to Corinto.

So if you have a retailer that

wants to become partners with us

for carrying Postonia cigars,

reach out to

mikep@postcigars.com or just

comment below on the on the

YouTube, say, hey, I got a guy

and we'll we'll figure that out.

Did you?

You mentioned Iowa the week

before, right?

Iowa went last week, too.

Iowa, yeah.

Yeah.

OK, yeah, I believe I mentioned.

That we're real close to

Neptune.

So close, so close.

Maybe one day, one raccoon.

OK, and now with the news

tropical chain Bahama Breeze no

longer priority shut down begins

April 5th.

So they are shutting down 14

locations in the state of

Florida right away.

Just closing.

No good.

They're just done now.

Just done.

Now there's only 28 of them

countrywide, but fourteen of

them in Florida are going well,

gone.

The other fourteen they are

turning into other Darden

Restaurants.

Oh, they're just morphing them.

Right.

They're gonna remodel and turn

it into something that makes

more money.

Apparently these don't make a

lot of money.

Really.

Bahama Breeze, Bahama.

Breeze.

It always looks packed.

We've talked about these before.

The drinks are great, the food

is terrible.

We've covered this, yeah, but

there's.

We've covered how bad they are.

We didn't cover their their

closing.

There's something that you like

though, That type of hum.

Was it the popcorn shrimp?

No, it was coconut.

Coconut, Coconut shrimp.

Yeah, but you can get coconut

shrimp anywhere.

It's always about the same.

My wife likes going because at

one over in Sanford, you can sit

outside.

They have a very nice, beautiful

outdoor.

We used to sit in that gazebo

thing.

The drinks are really good,

tropical, fruity drinky things.

And but the food.

But I always, I always struggle

with the food.

What am I going to get?

What do we order?

Right Coconut shrimp.

Are the drinks expensive there?

You know, not that bad.

Moderate.

Moderate.

There's like a, like a Margarita

flight where you can get, you

know, 5 little margaritas of

different flavors or five of

something else.

You know, they have, they have,

I like to get the flights and

then.

Oh, do you?

Yeah, they take, you know, I

take little pictures and you

know, it's a nice little

Instagram post and stuff.

So you do it for the gram?

Yeah, do it for the.

It doesn't sound that appealing

to me.

I don't want five different

options of of a Margarita.

I would just want the one.

Oh, no, they're, they're good.

They're usually kind of usual

and they have flowers in them.

It's very pretty and they come

on this pre printed bamboo piece

of wood that says what each one

is with little holes.

You like the you like the

flowers.

I like the flowers.

Yeah, they're pretty.

Makes you happy.

Well, for the gram.

And you know, the more color the

better.

Right.

What about you, Phil?

Are you going to miss Bahama

Breeze?

No, it's not really your style.

No, what I do miss, and I think

they are a Darden restaurant if

I'm not mistaken, is Red

Lobsters.

Yeah, I'm surprised that's still

open.

Are they still around?

There's some.

The one in Sanford's still

there, isn't it?

No, no, no.

Did that one close?

Yeah, that one closed.

Oh thank God it was.

It was getting kind of tired on

the inside.

Didn't they like bankrupt

themselves with endless

something or other Endless.

Endless shrimp or lobster or

something yeah, yeah, yeah They

hired a new CEO and he did some

promote I think it was endless

lobster and then yeah, I just

wiped them out.

I.

Wasn't there for that either.

I missed that.

You missed that boat.

Yeah.

What a bummer.

Yeah, you would have expedited

their bankruptcy.

They were.

I mean, their food was decent,

yeah.

Biscuits.

It's, you know, if it's not near

the water, Red Lobster's a place

to go.

That used to be the place when

you were, well, when I was a

kid.

You know, Mom and dad go, we're

going to Red Lobster.

You're like, oh, we're going to

fancy eating tonight.

Oh, right, right.

Yeah.

Cheddar biscuits and lobster.

Biscuit popcorn shrimp, but I

always get the popcorn shrimp.

Restaurant business is tough,

man.

Oh yeah, so much spoilage.

It says that their higher profit

concepts like Olive Garden and

LongHorn Steakhouse are still

doing well.

Yeah, that's like when you, you

know, you spend 20 bucks on

pasta, of course.

Right.

Yeah, exactly.

And they get heartburn the rest

of the night.

Right.

And the and and they have what

they got bread too.

They got some dough.

They got the breadsticks at

Olive.

Yeah, and Longhorn has has the.

They have the pumpernickel.

Pumpernickel.

That's it, right?

Pumpernickel loafs.

There you go, exciting times.

Yeah, so that mean that the one

in Sanford has to close because

there's already an Olive Garden

and a Longhorn over there.

So that one's done.

Yeah, that one's gotta be done.

Well, hmm, well, they got the

new Yeah, and two next door.

The Hooters is turning into a

F&D fish house.

Oh they finally shutting down

that Hooters.

Yeah, what's F and DF?

And D like F&D Cantina, F&D

Italian F&D steakhouse.

Spanish place, isn't it?

No, it's a whole chain.

It's like.

Cantina, but do you think that

would be?

No, they have like 4 stores, 4

restaurants.

All right, let's get out of this

conversation.

Let's.

Move on, Hooters is dying like

crazy anyway that's it's seen

better days too.

Well, yeah, you got Twin Peaks.

Much better food.

And yeah.

Yeah.

Much better food.

Well, they're not.

They're not as chest driven I

think as Hooters is you.

Don't think they're chest

driven.

Not as much.

Have you been in one?

Yeah, we go, my wife and I, we

go to the one in Altamont.

She likes that one.

It's.

And I like the beer.

I like their homemade beer.

Not homemade beer, but they're

brewed in house beer there.

They're like in a mix of Hooters

and Wing House.

Oh, 'cause like Wing House was

all about the bottom half

Hooters, all about the top half.

Twin Peaks.

They come in, they're just

lumberjack chicks.

Like they're top and bottom.

Lumberjack.

Chicks.

They just like lumberjacks,

yeah.

OK, I.

Don't know where they get that

many fuzzy boots though.

But other than that.

But the name is Twin Peaks.

Right, I understand the the.

Name I got it moving on from.

Also another comment from VW

Racing.

Comment is in the middle.

I have a place for that now.

OK.

Yeah.

So hold on.

So hold on to your comments.

Let's go to the next man Let's

go.

To the next topic.

All right, Nancy Guthrie's

kidnapping update.

Oh, another scary twist in the

disappearance.

Today, host Savannah Guthrie's

kidnap mom TMZ, has received an

alleged ransom.

Note Yeah, I saw that.

But the police, TMZ, yeah, I

mean, where are you going to

send the ransom note if you

kidnap somebody?

TMZ, yeah, I don't think that it

was given to TMZ for.

For what?

Sorry.

I think that maybe it would like

somebody leaked it like, hey,

here's a ransom note and they

gave.

It well, the way it reads is TMZ

has received an alleged ransom

note demanding payment for the

release of Nancy Gother.

Do you think somebody leaked it

to him because the police are

denying that it happened?

Well whoever leaked it probably

got 50K.

You you get money for TMZ.

Imagine so.

Do you?

Yeah, they talk about at the end

of the show, really, if you have

any.

Oh yeah, you yeah, you can give

them information they.

Give you money.

They give you money.

They give you money.

If it pans out.

I don't think they just, you

know, send me a check and I'll

send you a picture of, you know,

Wilford Brimley eating oatmeal.

Who's that?

I don't know.

That's the diabetes guy.

Oh, that's the oatmeal.

Commercials.

I just know him as Diabetes

Wilford.

Brimley is his real name.

Is he still alive?

No, I believe he died of

diabetes.

Did he die of diabetes?

Probably why I did the

commercials.

Right.

Anyway, they got this on Tuesday

morning and it demands a

specific substantial amount of

Bitcoin in the millions, and the

note demands that the

cryptocurrency be sent to a

specific Bitcoin address.

Right.

Is it Chen Z's address or?

Chen Z.

Chen Z Care of Chinese

government.

I need help.

So do you think that this is a

legit ransom request or do you

think it's a scam?

I was thinking about that

because the police are denying

that it happened, so I think

it's a scam, right?

I think somebody's going.

Oh yeah, I have her.

I got her.

Apparently they gave details

like hey, this is the actual

outfit that she was wearing.

This is exactly what happened

inside the house.

I have heard that too.

The outfit they're saying what

she did not have on right, but

they are saying certain

conditions that were left in the

house is correct like to.

Prove.

That they that they did.

It that they have her.

So they have been looking at,

from what I read, they have been

looking at sexual predators in

the area.

Really.

And now her son, her son-in-law,

I believe it is some family

member is the person they're

looking at the hardest right

now, some son-in-law or her or

nephew or something.

Yeah, so obviously not Guthrie's

husband, but maybe there's a

sister like.

This is this another Casey

Anthony story?

No, this is an old lady.

No, I know, but I'm saying this

is going to be like another

Casey Anthony thing where

they're like, it's Casey

Anthony's parents.

We get covered all up.

We.

Always need a good story to keep

us going right but here's.

If you're a son-in-law, right,

and you know that in your

family, one of the most famous

news anchors on television is

currently.

On on television or on?

Yeah.

Like, you know, maybe you

reconsider doing something like

like I, you know, that could

that's going to go sideways

fast.

I mean, he really?

Needs.

I mean, I'm not justifying it by

any means, but maybe he like

owes gambling debts or something

and they're going to kill him if

he doesn't pay and he thinks

this is an easy way to get money

or something.

That's what I said yesterday.

It's a stupid person's mother to

grab.

Right.

Now her pacemaker has stopped

talking to her Apple Watch.

Uh oh.

That's the new news.

Now that could just mean it's

out of the area, but that means

then she was close enough at one

point.

Does she have her Apple Watch on

her?

No, they have the Apple Watch.

This is none of her personal

belongings were taken.

So then I would imagine she got

in the house after they dropped

her off.

It's not like she was grabbed

outside right because of her.

You know her keys, her wallet,

her watch, all that stuff's in

the house.

Detective Palmer is on the case.

Well, I I follow in this story

because we're doing updates

every week.

And he's older.

And this stuff comes out like

every 10 minutes or something

else.

Right.

OK.

So do you think it's a scam?

Do you think that the Bitcoin is

a scam or is it a legit ransom

thing?

I mean, it could be legit 'cause

there's a lot of idiots out

there nowadays.

They wanted a mask, right?

Wow, he just said it right.

Whatever.

Did you see where Palmer said

let's?

Move on to the next door.

Did you see where, Palmer?

No, there's more stuff here.

Did you see where Palmer said

you know, you gotta.

I can't even screw it up.

The helmet.

No, he said something about

think.

Before you talk.

That's what you're supposed to

say.

How did I say?

Talk before you think I don't

know.

I don't know what Skip was upset

about last night.

You guys just went on a thing

and I was getting ready to go to

bed.

So Skip's always.

Upset.

Was this something we said in

the show?

Yeah, it was epic.

I'm gonna, I had to pull it

'cause I gotta make a short clip

out of it.

You pulled me out of my

retirement for doing my own

editing here.

But you said, hold on, let me

look at it right here.

Pulled me out of my retirement I

didn't have.

That same thing without talking.

They think without talking.

They are.

They're thinking without

talking.

And they a lot of times they

think without talking.

Well, again, Palmer, we grab him

from the home every morning.

Yeah.

He's gonna run into that table

about 10 minutes ago.

Yeah, he boots thought he was

about to die, 'cause that's

usually how it happens.

It happens.

Right slam my thigh into the

edge of that table.

He's gonna break a bone going

for surgery, then he's gonna get

not ammonia.

Ammonia.

I'm gonna get ammonia.

It's gonna get.

Pneumonia.

Yeah, pneumonia.

I'm going to get ammonia, I'm

going to clean something and

pass out.

What's awesome is, you know, the

guy who really always discovers

these is David Morris, The guy

he is.

Yeah, I mean, I'm nice to him

next time he comes, he's so.

Analytical.

He's on top of.

It so anyway so the sheriff is

is denying that any of this has

has happened.

He did a press conference

yesterday and he is not showing

a lot of confidence and and

nobody's got a lot of confidence

in him.

The way he acted in the press

conference, very small town

sheriff and they were like what

about this?

And he goes, well, I don't know.

I haven't even seen that yet.

Right.

Well, at least he's being

honest, I don't think.

He's going to crack the case.

Well, he goes.

You're right.

I don't know why they don't have

that information back to me.

Well, hell.

Well, hell.

That's a great question.

That's a great question to get

back.

Anybody know what the hell

they're talking about?

Yeah, Bobby, come up here.

Bobby, Bobby.

Bobby.

Bobby, Bobby.

Bobby.

Bobby.

And he was there by himself.

He had, you know, normally

there's a press conference like

if Grady, Judd or Chit would,

there's like people, right?

You know, he just stood up there

by himself.

Like I ain't going up there with

you.

I ain't going.

I don't know why this image just

went through my head of when he

was talking about the sheriff

and these guys.

Ammonia, No.

Remember all the movies with

Ernest and he had the really

skinny guy and the fat guy?

Yeah, those three guys all

standing up there like Ernest is

like in a weird outfit or

something.

Yeah, he'd.

Be better off.

I'm not surprised that that went

across your brain.

Well, he's a small town sheriff

and what's these guys?

Pima County Sheriff.

You're a big Ernest guy.

Ernest, First of all, do not

disrespect Ernest P World.

That is a great, great guy.

He saved Christmas.

Yeah, exactly.

And Halloween.

So you save Halloween too?

Is there like a series of

holiday saving movies?

Yeah, he did all the holiday.

Movies I just like I like the.

Ernest saves Groundhog Day I.

Like when I save Christmas.

I think there is a Groundhog Day

one.

Of course there is, you know,

they eat, they used to eat the

Groundhog after he after they

pulled him out and he did or did

not see really.

Yeah, that's amazing.

I saw a thing the other day I

thought was hilarious where it

said, you know, what they should

do is they should announce a

Groundhog Day 2 movie.

Yeah.

And then just re release the

original.

Oh.

It would be funny, yeah.

OK.

All right, so as more

information comes available,

we'll keep following this for

the for the rest of the week

until something happens until.

Those are the 2 updates.

There's what?

Yeah, there's a fake ransom and

then her, her, her ticker is.

Not a pacemaker is not talking

to her watch anymore.

Yeah, that's not good.

Well, I mean, it could just mean

she's out of range.

Yeah.

Either way, it's not good,

right?

Yeah, either way, it's she's

been moved or.

Well, if she had passed the the

pacemaker would still run.

It doesn't work off your body.

It's it's electric.

OK, but if it stopped working,

that could mean that that caused

her to die, I guess.

Yeah.

I don't know.

We're probably going to find

more stuff out like her.

Her insulin pump does now is

stop working too.

I mean, I don't know if she has

an insulin.

Did you say there's blood in the

insulin?

There was blood in the house

that they found after everybody

had been going through the house

for their couple of hours

looking.

For her, I mean, who knows what

that means?

And you know, as an older

person, you could, you could get

cut.

They bleed very easily.

Yeah, their skin starts getting

thinner.

I.

Mean Palmer bleeds on the

regular, right?

Got blood everywhere.

Yeah.

When he hit that, when he hit

that table, man, it was gushing,

Yeah.

Yeah, it's all over the floor

over there.

Yeah.

So I'm like a piano doesn't

clean till tomorrow.

That's why I thought he's gonna

get ammonia.

Going to get pneumonia.

But it's a crime.

Pneumonia.

All right, Mr. Fishback, who

wanted an only fan stacks and he

also wanted mandatory school

uniforms for all schools in the

state of Florida, is back in the

news again.

He's fired.

Governmentorial candidate James

Fishback is taking campaign to

social media extremes.

He has joined Tinder to directly

reach young female voters and

promote policies around

marriage, home ownership and

family life.

So if you can't beat them, join

them.

OK, so he's on there.

Swipey.

Swipey.

Yeah.

This guy's crazy.

He sounds a little creepy.

He does now, doesn't he?

Yeah, he's kind of weird, like a

dude.

Look, OK, I got news for you.

Yes.

What kind of attention is the

dude getting on Tinder?

He's not.

Oh, he's getting his attention.

Hey, would you like to vote for

my stuff?

If you would, please meet me at

the Longhorn.

The stunt immediately went viral

when Fishback jokingly he ran

out of likes within 30 minutes

and claims he has over 1000

matches in a day.

Well, I mean, it's a, it's a

novelty now.

They're like, you know, oh, let

me find Fishback, you know,

match with him.

I feel like the dating apps have

have really kind of tanked, like

people have moved on from them.

They're just a.

Joke.

So I don't, I don't even know at

this point.

You don't.

You don't see the commercials

like you used to.

Yeah, and you never.

And you don't hear about people

getting together on the dating

apps anymore.

Like, where'd you guys meet?

Oh, we met on the what?

What was the was it Tinder?

The one where the the guy who

invented I I think it's tender,

The guy who invented tender.

His wife matched with somebody

on Tinder and then she left him

for the guy she missed with.

That's terrible.

I.

Didn't hear about that.

That's funny, yeah.

That's horrible.

That's funny, the best

commercials was the one where at

the end the logo would light on

fire or something.

They said they were the they

were the app that's made to be

deleted off your phone, which

they were implying that they

match you up and then you don't

need them anymore, right?

That was the best one.

Gotcha.

OK, this guy's just doing it for

attention.

Whatever you can think of.

It's all marketing stuff.

It's working.

Oh, it's working.

We're talking about him for the

second time, right?

And apparently the news talking

about him for the third time.

I didn't hear the part about he

wanted every school to have.

Uniforms, it's not as extreme.

No, no, not as.

That's not as extreme as let's

tax the only fans, the only fans

people, and then hey, I'm going

to jump on Tinder and so I can

save people.

He's got another one where he

wants to tax certain people that

move to Florida.

Depends on the state they come

from.

Oh, really?

Some kind of when they buy a

house, tax something added on to

the purchase.

Price, preferably California.

How about no tax?

We don't have state income.

Tax.

I'm just, I hate the tax.

It's ridiculous.

They hate taxes in general.

You just want them to print

money.

They just print the money.

I don't understand why I just.

I still haven't had anybody

explain that.

What they do with the tax money

pays for those schools.

Yeah, but like instead, why

don't they just fund it instead

of just pulling it?

Or are.

They going to fund them.

If they keep making money, the

value of the money goes down.

Right.

News flash values.

Down so they can't keep printing

money.

So that offsets it is what

you're saying.

That's how they offset it by

taking it back from us.

They take it from you and then

they pay for the schools.

They pay for the trash they pay

for sometimes.

Sometimes they pay for the

trash.

Well, sometimes they pay for

schools, sometimes it goes to

teachers, but sometimes they

give it to the schools and it

doesn't go to the teachers.

Like that's what DeSantis did

recently.

He actually made a bill that

required that they gave teachers

more money, that this money is

specifically for this period.

It's not for the school, it's

for the.

Teachers.

He did a mandatory raise for the

teachers right?

Not like he gave them extra

money for the raises.

He did.

He gave them more money.

Yeah.

OK, then that's not the money.

Wasn't going there before that.

Said he gave them extra, right?

Well, that money got to come

from somewhere.

It comes from your taxes.

Why don't they just print it?

Because then the value of the

money goes down.

If they make more of it, then

it's worth less.

And they print more of it all

the time.

And why do we need?

But then they take money out of

the system too.

They print it and then they give

it to BlackRock.

Why can't they print it and give

the teachers who's BlackRock,

the military, yada yada Yeah.

Oh, is it called BlackRock?

I think it's called Blackstone.

No, that's the real estate

group.

Totally differently.

Blackstone is or BlackRock?

Blackstone is a real estate

group.

Black Rock is.

Closely affiliated.

Closely affiliated, yes.

Yeah, he was in the Navy that

never got on a boat.

So better question is, is why do

we care what the value of the

dollar is?

You do care what the value.

Of the dollar, you do care.

That we can't print the money.

You can't print the money.

No, no, I disagree.

They already do print the money,

it just goes to the wrong

people.

But anyways, then your $200

camera might cost $500.

Which one was 200?

I'm just using this around

figure.

I don't want everybody to know

what we paid for our equipment.

OK, I add another 0. 50 Dollara.

I just used it as an easy

number.

OK.

All right.

All right.

Well, moving on, Michael's a

socialist.

Socialist.

I'm not a socialist.

Don't get all upset.

Preston was just here.

I'm.

An American.

I worked my ass off and I don't

like paying taxes, but I do

because we appreciate you.

Thanks.

The military appreciate you

helping to pay their salary too.

I appreciate the military.

I appreciate that.

Except Boots, Phil.

Yeah, except for The Who was in.

The Air Force but never got out.

Except for the master of arms, I

think that that was.

That's a ridiculous job.

We keep the order.

Police, the army, the military.

Police the Navy, didn't he?

He policed the Navy, Yeah, but a

master of arms is a person that

policies the military.

Oh yeah, ridiculous.

Ridiculous.

Let.

Them do whatever the hell they

want to do.

All right, moving on.

Florida iguanas are an invasive

species.

Yes.

So the the cold weather we've

been having has been causing

them.

They don't like it.

They lovely cold weather.

They don't move.

They move like in slow motion.

They're.

Cold blooded, they're cold

blooded so they can't get hot,

right?

So people are going around and

picking them up by the armfuls,

by the sack full in some cases

hundreds of pounds at a time.

And if you take them to the

specific Fish and Wildlife drop

off points they gently.

Euthanize them.

They they they pet them as they

kill.

Them I don't know what that

means either, I'm assuming, but

I mean I've seen pictures like I

had a back of a pickup truck

full of them like gently it's OK

little shot.

I mean, are they just shooting

them?

I think, I think they don't.

Don't a lot of people eat them

down there?

Some places but they they have

they have made a an exemption

currently to where you can catch

them.

Normally you can't, right?

Because I guess there's one

color that's a natural species

in Florida, but really you can't

tell which one it is.

So they're just taking them all.

Just kill them all.

Kill them all.

Kill them all.

Let somebody else sort them out.

It's that, well, what's the

military?

Kill them all, let God sort them

out.

Yeah, What's that branch?

Is that Marines?

That's the Marines.

Well, that kills them all.

Kill them all.

Let God sort them.

Out.

Yeah, that's yeah, Marines.

Yeah, not not master of arms.

What makes the grass grow?

Blood.

Blood.

Blood.

Oh.

Nice.

Yeah.

So iguana blood makes

aggression.

So you think this is a good

thing or a bad thing?

I think it's a good thing, but

yeah, let's get rid of these

suckers, yeah.

Gently I'm not for gently kill

them.

Just shoot them.

What's the big deal?

Just.

Give somebody machete and just.

Can't bring them in pieces.

We don't care.

Yeah.

Yeah, because they eat the

mangroves and stuff, right?

They eat something they're not

supposed to.

They're invasive.

They're painful.

Somewhere, somebody had one and

let it go, and now they're

everywhere.

Not just one like every like

well.

OK, it had to be two I guess.

Had to at least eat 2 and.

Then they had to meet.

Right, Right.

Hey, how you doing, Mr. Iguana?

Nice to see you.

Are you a missus, Iguana?

You're a boy.

I'm a girl.

You know what there's?

Let's make iguanas.

Yeah, let's spread our seed.

Spread our seed.

Take over the state.

You're not a doctor, are you?

Sorry.

All right.

So even the lady who are you

with us?

That was the last.

That was the last news clip that

we had of the doctors swearing

his C.

'S oh.

I went too far.

I went too far I.

Guess hey it went too far.

It's like 2 weeks.

I looked for an update, nothing

happened.

It was.

Like 2 days ago, yeah, that's a

that thing is going to slowly

develop.

It's going to be like 6 months

later.

Right.

Yeah, be somebody.

And now they're looking for

their daughter.

Eventually he winds up in cuffs,

Right?

That's the theory.

Send me I.

Mean it's not even her egg.

So I mean he he's just randomly

shooting and then putting an egg

in people.

He's just winging it.

Bring me another one.

It's not hers, doesn't matter.

Send me a million Bitcoin or you

never see your eggs again.

They're going to love them

regardless.

Yeah, well, they did say they

love, you know, we love our

daughter.

Of course, but it's not really

your daughter.

Doesn't matter.

You would think, I mean, as soon

as it comes out, you're going.

To know, I mean, I'd be pissed

if I spent all that money and I

didn't get.

And you're bamboozled.

Well, you got a baby.

I never guaranteed which one you

would get.

Didn't get the baby?

I just said a I'm sorry, read

the paperwork I.

Just said a you're going to get

a baby.

You get a baby.

Maybe yours, maybe someone else?

Someone else.

It's like, you've got one now

relax, raise it.

Have.

Fun.

Be a family.

Be a family.

Oh, so the guy's foreign?

Yeah.

All right.

All right.

Now you can read your comments.

Ah, let me get to my comments.

Do they make belts and stuff out

of the iguanas?

They can they make boots out of.

Them there was a James Bond

movie where the bad guy had a

tail on a stick like a whip and

he would beat people with it.

OK.

Was that the real James Bond

movie or was that the porno

version 'cause that?

Sounds weird.

Porno versions.

I don't.

I don't remember that villain

all.

Right, so BW Racing said was

going to give you shit about the

Beanie King Master Chief put all

put, but he he meant to say, but

I'll keep patiently waiting.

So there's that.

Thanks very much, BW.

And then on the day before his

comment, which I loved, Mitch

said that he's going to try yes,

the cigar chat next time he's on

chat with Duolingo.

He's going to argue with

Duolingo.

And the other one was David

Morris Palmer with another red

light special.

I think a lot of the time they

think without talking.

Yeah.

They think without.

Talking the red light special.

Till you made it, figure out the

red light special part.

That's amazing.

Don't think without talking.

Yeah, you're better off, man.

That feels like a shirt, guys.

I don't know.

That feels like AT shirt.

We'll just kind of trade on the

beanies and the hats.

Things without talking.

Don't get right.

That's fine with me.

Put Palmer under it.

Oh, it's going to have your head

on it, Yeah.

With like a red light bulb.

Thinks without talking.

Big red light bulb shining on

the think without talking.

Yeah, yeah, that'd be nice.

All right, now I have an update

and some information that I have

found on the English or no

driving.

OK, so there's only four states

that do that require that only

use English.

All the rest of them have

multiple.

Oh, let's guess.

So 46 of the 50 have

multilingual driver's license,

correct?

Would you like to guess?

OK, one of them is US obviously.

So there's three others, OK.

Sex.

This is the other one.

Nope.

Really, Georgia?

OK, this is going to take

forever.

No, it's not.

No, you're.

Going to name 46 different

states.

Alaska.

Nope.

Now let us guess.

It has to be Alabama.

It's got to be the South.

Alabama.

Georgia.

Nope, it's not the South.

Oh, that was one of the best

state.

It's the then it's got to be

like North Dakota, South Dakota.

South Dakota.

Yeah, it's got to be like the

place where they don't inhabit

it.

Where?

They don't have people that

don't speak English.

Utah, Wyoming and South Dakota.

Exactly.

Yeah, they'll never make it all

the way up.

Here, by the way, Ben Rowland

said, sure, none of the border

states offer things in in both

languages like Cali or Arizona,

but Arkansas was the obvious

state for comparison.

Arkansas has many.

Yeah, we used to have.

Hold on, where's it at?

123456 different languages that

the test came in. 6.

Six.

That's counting English and

Spanish, so there's four others.

Look, here's why I think this is

ridiculous.

You I need to see data and proof

as to why this is justifiable.

I just don't see the the logical

reasoning 'cause now you have

data from. 46 other states that

do it.

Right.

Is there is there absolute chaos

in the streets of these states

because of multilingual driver's

license registration?

I think Texas had like double

digit offering of languages.

You see what I'm saying?

Like what are we doing?

It would.

It just seems like a waste of

time.

So we used to offer the test in

Haitian OK Creole, specifically

Asian Creole.

That makes that makes sense.

Arabic, Andrin, Chinese and

Russian.

OK.

There's a lot of Russians in

Central Florida.

What do you want me to do are?

There a lot of Arabics.

I would guess after 911 I don't

think.

That would be Middle Eastern,

so.

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I know a

handful of dudes that are Middle

Eastern, you know, but there's

different languages.

Arabic is one of them.

This is just non commercial.

For commercial it's always been

just English, which makes a

little more sense.

I'm fine with that, I guess like

there's but there's no reason to

change the law if unless it

doesn't like you like.

Something's happening, like

there's there's overwhelming

number of accidents and people

go, I cannot read these signs.

I don't speak English like what

do you mean?

You know, like.

Didn't you see the stop sign?

I I know speak.

Right.

See what it means?

It just seems silly to me, right

it?

Is.

I didn't know we offered all

these different ones before.

I thought like we just had

English or Spanish, right?

No.

That was the two options, right?

So.

Look, we got Russian.

Yeah, that seems odd.

Right.

OK.

In Haitian Creole, is there

other language in Haitian?

I mean, that seems oddly

specific, Yes, Yeah.

And Mandarin Chinese, OK,

because that's the one more most

of them speak is the Mandarin,

right?

Where the oranges come from?

Yes, exactly that's.

Exactly where we're right where

the oranges come from.

Where oranges come from?

OK I didn't pull the story, but

do you guys remember when orange

juice used to come and

concentrate?

Do you know what concentrate is?

I don't know about this either

ZH.

You have to add water to it.

Yeah, it just comes in that

little goo in the jar in the

goo.

Minimade is not making it any

longer.

Why not?

It's not selling.

Nobody buys it anymore.

They stop making lemonade,

orange juice, limeade and pink

lemonade.

They want the.

Everybody wants it already pre

made well.

What are you going to do now,

Palmer?

Well, I'd buy it pre made now,

but I mean when I was growing up

that's what that's what you

would do.

Spam.

Do you eat spam?

I do still eat spam.

I like spam.

Have you ever had spam Mikey?

I've not.

You've never had spam?

You gotta it's no, I know a lot

of people joke about it, but

it's good like if you.

Fries.

Good.

It comes in different flavors

now, yeah.

Do you fry yours?

Yeah, you fry your spam.

They used to be a thing for like

breakfast.

Different you, different spam

and eggs.

What, like pineapple spam?

No, there's like bacon spam,

Turkey spam, pork spam, Yeah,

salted unsalted.

In United Kingdom they eat spam

all the time.

Yeah, in Hawaii it's like steak

that's I mean it's the a big

protein source in Hawaii.

Big deal, right?

It is there, yeah, it's good.

Seems like an old person thing.

No, it's not.

Well, when I grew up, we didn't

have a lot of money then.

So I mean, you know, that was

relatively inexpensive at the

time.

What's changed?

What's changed?

I still don't have any money.

That's why I still eat it.

OK, got it.

Got it.

I said they still eat it.

Got it.

My wife won't, but I'll do I.

Will yeah, Like, you know, when

I was a kid, I always thought

like corned beef hash was like

an old person thing.

And then as I got older, when I

first had corned beef hash, I

was like, Oh my God, this is

amazing.

Oh, it's good.

Yeah.

You ever had scrapple?

No, but I've heard of that.

I feel like you didn't have

shoes growing up.

Me.

No, I had shoes.

Yeah, you're just like this

country bumpkin.

No.

He had them, he just didn't wear

them.

Yeah, he ran around like Jethro

from Beverly Hillbilly.

I did run around barefoot a lot

outside.

There you go.

That's what he said, Yeah.

He had the shoes for church.

Right Church.

Right, he had my church shoes

we.

Had the fancy eating table mall.

Are we going to Red Lobster?

Wow.

Kind of get the best kids.

I like the.

Best.

I really like the best.

I put my shoes on everything.

I mean, when I was a kid, I, I

was like your kids.

Yeah, well, you're the oldest.

Like, I liked all the basketball

shoes.

Yeah, like I had the Kevin

Garnett's I had.

I had all of it.

So my Jax is in this weird

period where I just want him to

have regular shoes.

Like just you just look dude, we

need a pair of shoes for you to

wear.

Not to school 'cause you have

school shoes and you have

basketball shoes, but like I

need a pair of shoes for you to

wear out everyday.

Like nothing crazy.

Air Force Ones, whatever, right?

I can't get this kid to decide

and pull the trigger on

anything.

Dude I was the same way like.

It's worse, though.

You want to know what he he's

like, what's my price range?

I'm like, I don't know.

Wow.

Like, I don't know, I'll tell

you what, you throw a shoe at

me, you mentioned X and I'll

look at the price and I'll tell

you yes or no.

You know what?

He lobs at me.

Travis Scott.

'S Nope.

I said, are you out of your damn

mind?

An everyday shoe.

Like I'm looking for you to

wear.

Those are really I'm on, I'm on.

For it's all aftermarket,

they're super expensive, they're

hard to get come across and

they're like the the the lowest

priced ones are like 3-4 hundred

bucks.

Wow, right.

I'm like what like I want you to

have a pair of shoes that you

can run around in Yeah like I

don't know, you're not banging

out of these.

What are we doing?

Just buy.

Just buy them like some of those

the cloud shoes or isn't that

the new thing?

I.

Look for everybody but even

those are a couple 100 bucks

like this.

Are they?

I don't.

I would buy spend a couple

hundred 5200 bucks on a pair of

decent shoes for him no problem.

But I'm just like, just pull the

trigger man.

Pick something.

This has been ongoing since

before Christmas.

Like, hey, I want to get you a

pair of shoes for Christmas,

right?

OK, show me what you want.

And then he starts going, well,

these are not.

Oh, wait.

Oh.

But you know, what I'm thinking

is if I got this pair of shoes

and this pair of shoes, then I

could make different pairs,

different colors.

Yeah.

And I'm like, I just want you to

pick a regular pair of shoes.

This is why is this so goddamn

hard.

Just buy.

Just buy them shoes and say

these are your father issued

shoes.

Yeah, here.

You go, no, what I'm doing is

going to take them and cut a

potato.

Just won't wear them.

I'm going to cut a potato sack

and put some string on top of

it, and that's what we're going

to rock with.

Oh.

Yeah.

Go to Sports Internet Sport

Academy.

They have pretty good pricing.

That's where I just got shoes.

We went to Hibbett.

I don't know what Hibbett.

Is it's the same?

It's a shoe place.

Yeah, same thing, same concept.

Couldn't pull the trigger.

I'm like dude just pick a pair

of shoes and say these are good.

Purposes.

It is hard.

There's a lot of shoes out

there.

Yeah, but he's in the sport, so

he's in the names.

Oh, that's how it works.

I was.

Just going for comfort, I was

trying all sorts.

Of but that, but that's the

crowd.

I don't care.

No, I know, I know you don't.

I'm just saying like.

But look, he doesn't have to

wear Kobe's, but like, he can

get a pair of Giannises, he can

get a pair of Jaws, he can get

the things that are regularly

accessible and that could be his

everyday shoe.

But I can't get him to commit.

Yeah, but like, like I didn't

want the Spree welds because

they had the spinners, but that

was the thing.

But I didn't like those.

Like, I wanted the Jordan, the

Air Jordans.

I found these jaws.

The first year that you guys

have mentioned that I knew what

it was, was he Air Jordans?

Yeah, Jordans.

The the yabos and the what's

were yabos and I wrote it with.

Yanis's.

Yanis Yanis don't even know.

What or who that is, is a

basketball.

Player I got a pair of I got a

pair of ASICS and a pair of

Skechers.

Yes, those are not people.

Those.

Are old mansions.

Well, you know, I sold the car.

I had a little bit of extra

money and I needed a decent pair

of shoes and I saw two I like.

They're both hundred, 100 bucks.

So I'm at the door for 1:25.

Right, you're in good shape.

Yeah, and they're good for your

back.

Well, I have.

My feet have been hurting a lot,

especially on Fridays after that

long shift on Fridays.

Well, yeah, you've been walking

the earth for how many years?

Right.

Yeah, the dinosaurs and things,

yeah.

You got to get some good souls.

It was easy and you know that

you're barefooted and you just

ran from the dinosaur.

Like like Phil growing.

Like Phil when he was growing

up, right?

Exactly, except I wore fur, not

overalls.

Right, makes sense.

OK.

All right, Cigar News, there's a

bill proposing proposes allowing

Internet slash mail order sales

for Utah.

Utah, barely.

In Utah, you can't buy things

online.

I don't know if they're not

aware that there is online

shopping or they just don't like

it.

Yeah, like you like you just

can't hit the buy now button.

It's the same thing.

We're not so.

Dude this is so wild.

You pull this from half wheel.

Yes, yeah, Utah is currently one

of the toughest states for cigar

buyers with an uncapped 86%

cigar tax, highest in the USA,

and a full ban on mail order

cigar shipments, a double hit to

consumers and retailers.

So does that mean we never ship

anybody in Utah?

We, we we don't ship.

Yeah, We don't.

No, We don't ship, no.

Utah.

Is that a state?

Yes, the new legislation would

finally allow Internet and mail

order cigar sales into Utah as

long as out of state retailers

get licensed.

There is the rub.

There it is.

Verify age, keep records, post a

bond and collect Utah's cigar

excise and sales.

Post a Post a bond.

Does it say that is?

Yes, it says that.

Oh my.

So we're allowing it.

But here's what you have to.

Do.

Here's the regulation.

You got a jump rope?

Climb the ladder.

You got a jump rope?

Send us a picture of your wife

and then pay the taxes at the

end the day.

Right.

The bill was introduced by a guy

named Jeff Burton, signaling

growing political momentum to

modernize cigar access while

still enforcing tax and aid

safeguards.

I don't know, it just sounds

like they a bigger way to get

more money.

Well, that's what the all the

taxation is just a frigging

money grab.

Yeah, right.

Yep.

That's why he wants to print the

money.

That's why he wants to print the

money.

Utah and Hawaii are currently

the only two states with full

bands on out of state cigar

shipments.

But Hawaii has just introduced a

similar reversal bill last

month.

The national trend is clearly

shifting toward allowing regular

regulated remote cigar sales.

More people can smoke, Michael.

You'll be happy.

Oh, that's good, right?

Yeah.

Is that how that's going to

work, do you think so?

Well, that's regulation will

permit us, no?

They're backing up regulation.

They're backing it up.

So that you can now do stuff

there.

Oh, that's good.

You know as.

Long as you, you know, climb the

ladder, jump the ropes, I'm

going to picture your wife and

pay the taxes.

Maybe a few more years they're

going to realize, OK, no one's

doing that.

We're just going to let this go.

Yeah, they're just sending it

anyway.

What are we doing here?

Yeah, this is ridiculous.

It's so wild to me.

It is.

Maybe.

I mean, how can I regulate any

of that?

You can't.

That's just it.

They can't.

Look, if you're going to send

cigars here, you have to pay us

the money, OK?

Send the cigars anyway.

Yeah, not that we do that.

Like if you, you know, if you

send somebody in to place an

order and it gets shipped to

them, then that's where people

will get popped, right.

But.

Oh, could they do it?

They could do that online.

Send they'll.

Say hey, just so you know, got

you.

Oh, I didn't think about that.

Oh, sneaky bastards.

But like, you got to hire that

employee, right?

You need to have a whole.

All you do is set up a fake

address somewhere.

Send it to a state

representative.

Right, exactly you.

Know what I mean?

What is this guy's name?

State Representative.

Yeah, it seems like.

Jeff Burton seems legit.

Seems legit.

That Jeff Burton guy seems nice.

Send it to Jeff.

He's the one who was making the

bill so we could do this.

We should just.

Send else.

Yeah, we'll give him.

Let's send him some.

What do you mean I'm not

documented?

I filled out the UTL stuff, it's

fine.

I got my Deadwood on there.

All right, Bocock brothers, our

favorite pair of brothers.

They are our favorite pair of

brothers.

Favorite brothers?

Bocock Brothers.

I don't think they're not.

They're not my favorite pair of

brothers.

That's your favorite pair of

brothers?

No.

Who's your favorite pair of?

Brothers.

The Hernandez brothers, Yeah,

yes, especially after the.

Name's not as fun to say,

though.

It's true.

Hernandez, Bocock.

It's just funny.

They're fun.

But Pete's like, you know this

one guy, and then Steve is

trying to.

Completely different guy.

Trying to control the one guy

you know.

Well, they're celebrating

Indiana's undefeated football

season.

Not the Hernandez, the Bocock

brothers, The Bococks with a new

cigar.

Yeah.

The Indiana Hoosiers football

team just kept an undefeated

national championship season.

And now our commemorative cigars

coming to celebrate the historic

run.

Oh. 00 I have a great name for

this.

I think they already have a

name, but go ahead.

Did they call it the Who's Your

Daddy?

That wouldn't be fun.

Wow, I thought.

That was good.

Yeah, it was great.

It just says the name of the

school on the packaging.

Sorry.

It's made in a Honduras at an

undisclosed factory.

So it's another college cigar.

Yes, but this says undefeated on

it, and it's in a big box, and

each little cigar has its own

little coffin.

I really miss an opportunity

here.

Who's your daddy, you know?

The release comes in a 6 by 52

Toro price debt Gentlemen

Freedom Dollars because

obviously this is American

College.

Bill.

It's a Bocock Cigar 650.

Two Toro.

Let's go to 25.

That's pretty good.

I'm going to go 18. 2758 got it.

Box of 10 Quickly, quickly,

quickly.

Box OF10275275.

They're 2750.

Well, yeah, he was close.

That's pretty good.

I didn't realize he was quick

guess.

Positioning it because you never

listened.

Position it as a premium

collectible smoke for fans and

cigar enthusiasts.

So does that mean don't smoke?

It is no good.

I don't know.

I've never smoked a cigar.

But it's no, they're they're

positioned it as a premium

collectible smoke.

Yeah, but realistically, a lot

of those guys, they're going to

buy that cigar and they're going

to keep the box.

It's going to be a collector's

edition, right?

So.

It doesn't matter what the cigar

tastes like.

Yeah, they can taste like a

complete ass.

They're never going to smoke

them.

But if you'd like to get some

Bocock cigars, the pre sale is

launching soon online and

through retailers, with the

official release scheduled for

the first week of March.

There you go.

Continuing the Bocock Brothers

trend of producing cigars for

major colleges.

I like what they're doing.

I think that's cool.

I.

Do too.

It's a niche market.

I think that they have found and

seem to be doing well.

With they're over here crushing.

Right.

Good job, Bocock.

Brothers.

Brothers.

There's two of them, both of you

2 cocks, the Bococks, the.

Two cocks, double cock.

Double cock.

Wow, I really think who's your

daddy would have been awesome.

That would be a good idea.

Who's your daddy?

But I think they're trying to

make it look more like the

college.

Well, it would have, said

Hoosier with the because they're

the Indiana Hoosiers.

Not who is your, but who's your

daddy?

Yeah, but they did.

Just looks just like the college

logo though.

Down, down, down, down, down,

down.

Padilla announces Canadian

distribution through Lindel

Cigar Importers.

Lindel.

In Canada.

We heard of Lindel before.

Is that the chocolate guy?

No, there's Lindor.

Completely different.

Completely different Lind there,

yeah.

Phil, he's a woo food.

Padilla Cigar is officially

entering the Canadian market for

the first time, making a major

international expansion for the

brand.

Oh, it's first time they've gone

international.

Distribution will be handled by

the Lindell Cigar Importers Inc,

with cigars expected to hit

Canadian shop sometime this

spring, including plans for a

Canada exclusive release.

Yeah.

What do you think is a good

idea, Michael?

What's that?

Do you think it's a good idea to

to go into Canada with cigars?

To expand into a different.

Market the Canada.

Canada specifically, I mean out

of the entire world you could go

to, they picked Canada.

I mean, it's convenient, it's

closed, certainly it's a lot

closer as far as importation.

They have to do any type of

event.

It's right there.

You could go.

Right, right.

It's an easy border to cross

back and forth.

You can.

Pick up some Maple syrup.

True.

I don't think it's a big market.

No, no, I don't think it's a big

market.

But hey, you know, what are you

looking to do as a brand?

Are you looking to just expand

it and sell a little extra more,

you know, a little more?

I don't see the harm in it.

How's anybody going to know what

their brand is in Canada when

they have no bands?

Stick in a box.

Listen, that's a regulatory

problem.

You know, that's a whole other

issue.

Apparently he picked Canada

because it helped his father's

freedom from political

imprisonment.

Imprisonment in Cuba with the

help from Ted Kennedy and the

Canadian government.

I like Ernie Ernie's got gets

mixed reviews all over the cigar

industry.

Some people like him, some

people hate.

Yeah, I've heard that about him

too.

I've heard people that used to

like him that don't like him no

more too.

Oh really?

Well, I can tell you that, you

know, 100 years ago when we were

releasing SBC and we did a

Caribbean cigars, he showed up.

Oh nice.

And he bought a box.

Oh, think he smoked them all or

still has some.

I have no idea.

I asked for your opinion.

He.

Probably threw them away, who

knows.

Oh, Rich, Rich.

No, but you know, like that was

cool.

It's rich, Rich.

Rich, if you're buying cigars,

you're throwing them away is out

of the.

Garbage.

He throws cigar away.

Rich I have so many cigars I

just bite them and throw them

away.

You know, but that's kind of the

crazy part to me is, you know,

like you'd be surprised that the

people who support it and who

don't sure, more often than not,

right in in any facet, whether

it's this podcast, whether it's

the Patreon, whether it's the

product, whether it's the store,

you know, even close friends,

right?

I mean I have some close friends

that aren't cigar guys, but they

bought swag off the chapter pod

right?

Oh, it's nice of.

Them whenever I see him, like

one guy, whenever I see him,

he's got the damn hat on all the

time, all the time like that.

That's a friend.

Sure, right?

And then, you know, you got

other guys that you would think

would support, right?

But they don't, and they won't.

And then, you know, when you

finally make it like, yeah, I

knew you'd be like, yeah, but

you didn't.

You didn't help.

You weren't.

You weren't there in the early

years.

Yeah.

You weren't bought in.

You weren't like, hey.

For the lean time, yeah.

For coffee.

Like if you start a business

like what are you saying?

For coffee.

What does that mean?

What?

What?

Do you well?

Boca, I didn't want, no, I

didn't want to say the real word

when those people aren't around,

you know, like they're not

there.

Yeah.

Right.

For for coffee, I was, I was

doing that.

So that way it wasn't the real

work.

I don't.

Know what's going on?

I don't either anyways.

OK, you know, but like, he

won't, you know, like Steve

started a lawn business.

Hey, congratulations.

You cut all the grass

everywhere.

I need grass.

Cut you.

You.

Do right.

You're the guy now, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, Ernie hardly knew me,

but he saw that we were getting

going.

This is probably 10 years ago.

And he was like, I'll buy a box,

I'll support you.

That's pretty cool.

I would help you out, you seem

nice.

It wasn't.

Even that I was like, hey, you

know, like he knew Nika Sueno.

I was like, they got good

tobacco, good cigars.

Like yeah man, I'll buy a box.

I hope I'm there next time he

buys a box so I can grab the

cigars as he throws them away.

He.

Probably smoked.

I was just kidding.

We can get him outside.

Yeah, if anybody throws away

cigars in front of me, that's

like a sin.

Like no, no, no, Oh my God,

don't.

Throw that away.

What are you doing?

What would you do?

You only smoked 1/4 of that.

Would you pick somebody else's

up Cigar?

Up there was only one cigar.

I think we've talked about this.

Did he really?

I would.

Oh, no.

Oh.

Well, when I tell you about it,

you're going to be like, maybe.

Not if somebody else has

already.

Been Oh yeah there was a guy

that came in here one time and

he had a 50th and he smoked like

2 puffs out of it, put it down

the ashtray and walked out and

left.

And you smoked.

It Oh I clipped the end of it

and smoked the fuck out.

Did you even know who the guy

was?

No.

What if he had AIDS or

something?

Bro what if he had first?

Or something.

You don't know this guy.

Dude, you're out of your mind.

You're so old, there's no aids.

Haven't you seen Magic Johnson?

Say it happened yesterday.

Put your mash back on.

I'm you know what?

I'm getting the nose back out.

Dude, I won't even smoke.

I won't share a cigar that I'm

testing in the factory.

Like I was like.

Dude me and Chet sat there for a

second and we looked at it and.

Then you flied over it.

Man, that's a 50th.

Nope, I still wouldn't touch it.

I.

Clipped it.

I was like, I'm doing it.

Yeah.

I hate relighting my wife's

cigar because she's such a wet

smoker.

Oh God, she'll go, oh, this went

out.

Can you light it for me?

And I'm like, OK, fine.

Then I have to take it in my

shirt and I have to dry.

For your wife.

Yeah, your wife is just spit,

like dripping off of it

sometimes.

It's gross.

Yeah, you wouldn't realize.

Think.

About think about how she feels

bro.

Yeah, I know.

That's why I can only complain

so much.

I'll tell you what I mean.

If, if, if, if the scenario was

was flipped, I would do.

I would do it for my wife.

Yeah.

I might not like it.

Might be a little, yeah.

You know, you make a face and

you're like, you try not to let

her watch you wipe the end off

with your shirt.

At the end of the day, I'm I'm

doing it, you know what I mean?

I'll ask no questions.

Right.

Hunt did that one time within

his cigar.

She's like, oh, you got to try

this so good, right?

And he goes and he wipes it off

and goes and I'm like, you're

crazy.

I put that in my mouth wrong

with you.

Come on man.

Which I'm.

Like no.

You haven't.

You've smoked other people's

cigars before.

Me, yeah.

No, I haven't.

No, he hasn't.

He won't.

Not intentionally.

I've you.

Well, you accidentally did.

I remember.

He he drank out of my cup in

here one time and I didn't say

anything till after he drank it.

I think, oh wow, I think we were

at PCA and I think he actually

only smoked Greg's cigar.

Yeah, I believe that.

Well, yeah, that might have.

Happened.

Oh God, that's the worst.

You don't know where he's been.

That's happened more than once.

I'm like, fuck, I try.

I try my best to protect my

cigar at all times, no?

And we came up here Sunday.

Keanu hugged my wife.

I'm like, you don't know where

he's been, honey, you don't hug

him.

Yeah, look at him.

He doesn't bathe.

Yeah.

He goes, stop it and I'm like,

no, So I went back to go to the

bathroom and his jacket was back

there.

So I took his jacket off the

chair and I threw it in the

floor.

Then he texted me later when we

were down here, he goes, did you

put my jacket in the floor?

And I go.

I don't know, did the jacket hug

my wife?

Wow, dude, dude, you're you're

something else.

You're something else.

Poor Keanu.

And I said don't hug her on the

way out.

The jacket might not be so

lucky.

You just, you just jump to the

top of his list.

Yeah.

So you're probably like, well.

Palmer's always.

So much for him, it just.

You're like four or five.

You're number one with an

asterisk.

Palmer's always good on top.

Of it in the face.

I need him I want like closed

casket.

That's not that's yeah.

He didn't hug her on the way out

and then so she walks out the

door and I look at him.

I pour my finger at him.

He goes.

I didn't hug her.

Oh dude.

You're a terrible person.

Oh, I love the kid.

He's fun.

All right, now we're in the

portal.

We're in the portal.

We need a portal noise.

Boom.

There you go.

One more time.

One more time.

Perfect.

OK.

Thank you so much.

I forgot to add his name.

It's.

Tony Gomez, our friend Tony

Gomez.

Oh, no.

Formerly of Espinoza Cigar.

Formerly of.

Wyatt.

Wyatt Cigars.

That was the only conversation.

Wyatt.

Formerly of Luciano Cigars,

formerly of Tony Gomez Cigar

Brokerage, OK, He's announced he

has accepted a position as

territory manager for the

Artista Cigar Company covering

Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana,

OK.

For who?

Artista that was one of his

brokerage companies that he that

he Rep.

That's the El Pupo guys, right?

I think it is El Pupo.

Yeah, yeah, that's OK.

I mean they get they get AJ

stuff that work out of the AJ

factory.

So they got decent to buy.

It's a decent cigar, Yes, I'd

agree with that.

But here's the question.

So he walks into your shop,

let's say he was your Rep, and

he comes in and he's selling

Espinoza, and then he comes in,

he's selling Luciano.

Then he comes in, he's doing

Warfighter 15-O2 Black Star

Line.

Now he comes in doing artista.

Do you buy artista or?

I think there's one factor here

that you're not really

considering.

You said he walked into a store.

Yeah.

If he was walking into stores

consistently and selling

product, probably would be still

with one of those companies.

Well, we know he quit Espinoza

to take a national sales

manager, Luciano.

I think that was the trip and

then after that it's been

looking for a place.

Trip.

Oh, I thought you meant trick.

No like he that.

Grass is always greener, man.

That's the struggle, right?

I don't know how you leave

Espinosa.

Yeah, for and especially, well

Luciano, this other company.

Luciano looked at many eyes.

Yeah, he's like, yes.

You're a sales manager.

I'm in.

I get profit sharing, percentage

of ownership.

Yeah, certainly.

And then we rub each.

Other fuck you, I'm going over

here.

Baby oil.

Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't

know.

I think Espinoza takes care of

their guys.

Yeah, you know, I bet they like

Eric.

Seems pretty straightforward.

Unless you're Alfredo, because

then you just you're.

Not well, he wasn't technically

one of.

Their he wasn't he's not really

a he.

Wasn't, you know, actual family.

Terrible.

Like a cousin.

Alfredo doesn't work for them.

Terrible person.

No, they replacing with Richie.

Yeah, dude, a year ago.

Yeah, a long time ago.

But he does bring me M&M's, so

all right, You're OK, Alfredo.

He's still Foundation.

We shipped the.

COD.

All right, now it's time for

What's the score?

Excellent, gentlemen.

Excellent.

Yeah.

All right.

This cigar is from March 6th,

2019.

Brooks Whittington reviewed the

cigar.

It is a Nicaraguan Pier 28.

It's a Pier 28 Oscuro Perfecto.

Are you guys familiar with Pier

28?

No, no.

There are hundreds of different

sales representatives for many

different cigar companies.

Few of those representatives can

boast of having their own brand.

One such person is Tim Wong.

Ah, from Espinoza Cigars.

Interesting.

Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Oh, I believe that's Tim.

I believe that's Tim Wong.

Are you sure?

I meant to look it up but I'm

just going with I.

Don't think that's him you.

Don't think so.

No, let's look real quick.

Can we just say it is?

Because that's what I'm going

with today.

Oh, dude.

All right, Team Money's got

another comment if you want to

go and read.

It's not Tim Wong.

The the ridicule that you're

going to receive.

Oh, from Jack always.

Tim Wong is my friend.

Yeah.

All right, it's not him.

It's.

Definitely not him.

It's different him.

Different, different guy.

Totally different guy.

He he is my friend though.

That's, Oh my God, really a

different guy.

Oh great.

That's hilarious.

He's in California, appeared 28

cigars.

That guy strikes you as a Tim

Wong.

Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Yeah, I thought that was his.

No, but apparently it's not.

Let me see what my boy team

Money wrote.

Yeah, what did team money?

Something about the driver's

license?

Something about the driver's

license?

That's what he said.

It's not funny.

Read it anyway I.

Don't want to read it, can't

make me.

I like I don't have access to

it.

Yeah, so I think the driver's

license test being in English is

the correct way.

If you are a naturalized citizen

or legally admitted permanent

resident green card holder, you

need to be able to read and

write basic English.

A Mexican driver's license test

in strict in strictly in

Spanish.

It's strictly.

Oh yeah, a Mexican driver's

license is strictly in Spanish.

Hell yes, brother.

I like to think we're above

Mexico a little bit, you know

what I'm saying?

All right, guys, give me a

score.

Pier 28. 86. 87.

All right, he's a pier 28 of

squirrel Perfectos from

Nicaragua, from Lazona.

The rapper is Brazil.

Scurro Binary is Nicaraguan.

Filler is Nicaraguan.

Length 5 1/2 by 56 Perfecto.

They smoked 3.

This is not a redux.

Lazona Factory or Lazona AJ

Lazona?

Factory. 84 People don't

understand how hard it is to get

tobacco and then for men.

Right.

They think it's just over there

everywhere.

Yeah. 85.

Stick with me.

He should have went first, so

the.

Clue, make him go first next

time.

OK, clue #1 The cigar delivers a

complex and enjoyable flavor

profile early on, led by cloves

and dark chocolate, with

sporting supporting notes of

leather, cedar, cinnamon, nuts

and a subtle Maple sweetness,

keeping the first half engaging

and balanced.

Phil.

No, the next cigar.

There you go.

No, there is not another cigar.

There's a mini game.

This is not Monday. 91. 84.

Construction and see.

How different that was?

See how different that was?

Well, it doesn't matter 'cause

there's more guesses.

Should've said 90 screw with

them.

Construction is strong overall,

especially after the nipple cap

opens up nipple, the draw

becomes excellent.

Smoke production is thick and

plentiful, and performance stays

consistent through most of the

cigar Phil. 85. 92.

Clue #3 The final third falls

apart flavor wise as strength

ramps up too aggressively,

overwhelms nuance, and shifts

into more generic hay and bitter

notes, losing the complexity

that made the 1st 2/3 shine.

Phil.

This is the third clue.

Yes, yes.

Now all we have left is the

final thought. 86. 84.

Final thought for the 1st 2/3,

The Pier 28 features a fairly

enjoyable, albeit fairly linear

profile, nominated by a nice

combination of cloves and dark

chocolate.

Unfortunately, the final third

ran into issues, namely

significantly less sweetness as

well as strength level that

increase dramatically, which in

turn throws off the balance That

was one of the best features of

the 1st 2/3.

Having said that, other than the

ash issue, the overall

construction was quite good and

while people who enjoy mild to

medium spoke should probably

proceed with caution, I would be

interested to see how this

particular vitola changes with a

bit of age.

Where are you, Phil?

I'm going to stick at 86. 8583.

Boom.

Wow.

I was so close 84.

I was hanging 84 the whole time,

90.

One, you said 92 one time what

you said 91 or something.

Or not.

Yeah, just to be a smart ass.

Right.

Hey, anybody got anything else?

Where are you going to be?

Well, I've been saying it every

day.

I was going to skip a day, but

Friday I will be at Leaf and

Bean in Saint Augustine from

5:00 to 8:00 PM for a Postana

event at Island gyms Leaf and

Bean OK.

And at the end of the month I

will be at North Port Cigars in

North Port, FL.

Boom.

All right, thank you everybody

for listening and watching.

Patreon is going to drop here

tomorrow.

It's already set up.

Patreon dropped today.

By Bing.

And it's a pretty good interview

with Scott Pierce.

So if you want to support us,

check it out.

Go to patreon.com, a cigar

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There's podcast.

Thanks guys.

We got to go bite.

Show Notes

On Todays Show Bahama Breeze is going away, Guthrie Update, Fishback is Back In the news!  I=Florida Iguanas hate the cold for an even bigger reason now!  and update to the florida no English no drive story.  Then in cigars. Utah maybe be able to buy online, Bocock is boback, Padilla Cigars Aay,  we have a portal entry from the most portal guy we know. Then we wrap the show with a what’s the score