ACHP 463 Cigars-Yes, Pizza-Maybe
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I'm right whenever you are.
Welcome to a Cigar Hustler
podcast, episode 463.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host.
And with me today, as always, is
Phil Mcguffey in engineering.
Say hello, Phil.
Hello.
And Mikey.
Oh and as my Co host Mike step
on Kevitch, that's it.
Oh my God.
That's it, You just let let me
off the hook.
He's tired today.
I am tired today.
Yeah, I see it you.
Always start to lag come the end
of the week, yeah?
It's a long week is it always
becomes a long week.
It's the same amount of time
every week.
No, no, this week we did a
Preston show that makes
yesterday an exceptionally long
day.
OK.
Well, we always do a Preston
show now.
No, we didn't do one last week.
Oh, we're gonna.
He's like every three weeks he
pops in.
No.
It's at least every two we're.
Going to get into every week.
That was what all that was about
yesterday.
Oh, I hate Tuesdays now.
Well, that just means you got to
do more rails.
That's it.
Yeah, more Rails.
More Rails.
More rails, so much more
equipment for his show than our
show.
And less money.
Right.
Less pay.
Less pay.
I don't even get free flag
football.
What do you mean less pay?
This one doesn't pay at all.
Yeah, but there's, you know,
cigars when we do reviews and
you know, so there are, you
know, little bonuses here and
there's.
Some perks.
Circle K lighters.
Circle K Light, right?
You know there are things people
send us cigars.
Not like people are sending me
footballs now.
And flags.
By the way, T money sent to us
somebody I has to review on the
Patreon.
Thank you T Money right now
today's show Florida woman says
no Sir to an alligator with a
right cross.
Pizza is going to be harder to
get very soon in Australia.
A 13 year old boy saves his
mother and his two siblings who
got lost at sea.
Wow.
And you've been sitting there
for 30 minutes waiting on him
and you couldn't have opened
that beforehand.
It's.
Been like 10 minutes.
Been longer than 10, OK.
And cigars, we got some price
increases, we got some new
cigars, and then there's a
What's the Score mini game with
a special cigar.
Who Will Win today?
Oh boy, special cigar.
Special cigar.
But before we get all that
started, Mikey, how do you get
some of that chapter Pot swig?
First of all, I started to work
on the beanies again.
Yes.
Now I I don't want to interrupt,
but from what you said
yesterday, last night was the
final straw.
Either you had the beanies or
you don't have the beanies.
Yeah, well, I tried three of
them.
I made one.
So what happens to the?
So he has a beanie.
Wait, wait wait.
So you tried 3?
So one of the three is
successful, or they're three bad
ones.
One of the three is successful.
There's two bad ones, Yeah.
How bad are they?
They're just not attaching.
It's not attaching so I got to
re evaluate my pressure levels
or whatever.
Right, which is what you said
yesterday.
So are they still usable beanies
or are those beanies?
Oh, so you can cover up whatever
fuck up is on the little thing
now?
Well, there isn't.
There isn't a major mistake on
the beanies that it's just that
you know I'm struggling to.
I'm trying to figure out where
the right point is to press and
not destroy the beanie.
But there are no beanies have
been destroyed.
Well, the one that that I just
that we're about to send out to
Ben Wilhelmie, yes, because he
did purchase it.
I showed it to him before, OK.
And he's like, no, that's fine.
Yeah, I tell you, he'd be OK
with that.
Yeah, my head's called.
Send it.
Hey, I'm in Wisconsin for God's
sake.
He also purchased the last
Postonia SBC 82 shirt.
Oh, that's gone.
Those are gone.
Off the market.
And let's see a question.
If you purchase a beanie and the
shirt, is that still 40% off?
Yeah, you buy 1, you get 2.
Items he doesn't specify.
It's not like, you know, it's
not like they're buying a coffee
cup and a key chain.
Yeah.
You get the second item 40% off.
Oh hey, what if we did ashtrays?
He also bought the smoke and
subscribe.
So we bought 2 shirts and a
beanie.
Yes.
He should have bought that.
He got free shipping.
He did?
Yeah, I think so.
He's got to be awful close.
Well, what I got to tell?
Well, first of all, Miguel
Rocha, yes, was talking about
lighters.
We like him.
Yes, lighters are happening.
First smoke and subscribe.
I didn't want to drop that, but
you know, you're all you're
moving on to the next thing
here.
Well, I was talking to Mr.
Groover for the first responder
guys 'cause they were buying
ashtray somewhere else and he's
got that VSOL ashtray and I
didn't realize what a, you know,
semi ideal it is.
You only have to buy 10.
So I got news for you.
We're probably going to buy
ashtrays.
We're probably going to buy them
from Pete Hernandez if he has
that option.
Yes, we love.
That, I mean, maybe Pete's got a
better deal, I don't know, but.
As of right now, we're focusing
on ashtrays.
What?
Do you mean lighters?
Or lighters, Lighters.
I'm sorry, we're focusing on
lighters and I got to and I have
to get your approval for the hat
that I picked for.
Organizing it to get a hat.
So yeah, so just keep rattling
stuff away, buddy. .719.
Yes, realistically, we're
probably going to make thirty of
those and that's it.
O30 and done big.
Number of rats.
Rare.
No, they're super rare.
Well, we didn't make them any of
these, did we?
Yeah, we did.
Oh, did we?
Oh, I didn't really.
We made 20.
Something of those 25 of.
Those.
Yeah, because five were mess
ups.
So shout out to Ben.
Thank you very much for your
support.
Yes, Ben.
Yes, Ben, if you.
Yes, Ben, if you're interested
in picking up some of our swag
like this, shirt pressure is a
privilege, Check out Chapter
pod.com where if you buy one
item, you get the 2nd 140% off,
spend $100 or more and get free
shipping on your order.
And then as far as Postagna
guys, we'd like to welcome
Secreto cigars into the Postagna
San Andreas Corona Gorda fold he
is officially on.
Kicking and screaming, but he's
here.
Yeah.
I don't want him.
I don't want him.
No.
Yes, you are.
No, I'm not.
Yes, you are.
OK, fine.
Yeah, broke him.
What?
What if we ever did like some
film masks?
Guys.
I'm sorry.
What the hell do you?
Want from me?
What are we?
Walmart.
Yeah, we're we're fine.
Yeah.
And you know what?
You're, you're right.
Film masks would be great.
You go ahead and handle that
one.
I don't even know how this one
got.
Made so that one's on you go.
Ahead get oranges and bananas.
Get this done.
Can we do BDP oranges?
Bananas.
I love that you guys just.
This is a Palmer thing, you know
what?
If me and Palmer make them, can
we keep the money?
Hey, you know, why don't, why
don't you make some ashtrays and
some masks?
Oh, you're making lighters and.
Hash you can make them.
I suggested it as as another
product.
Line, that's perfect.
In the meantime, run the
wholesale operation, run the
retail operation, run the online
operation.
Still don't have the underwear?
Yeah, undies are coming.
Mark Palmer has nothing to wear
underneath.
His outfits.
You, Mark Palmer is by far, you
know.
That's what I said.
He has nothing to wear under the
other.
Clothes.
Greatest supporters?
Yes, he is.
So we always like to try and
acknowledge you guys, so we
appreciate your support.
Yes, check out chapter.com, the
Patreon just dropped of Scott
Pierce.
Yes.
Oh, that was a big one it.
Was a good interview, we asked
him some good questions.
You asked him some good
questions.
And thank you and Boots and I.
Had no idea what was going on
through most of the.
Show and while every four or
five episodes the the old
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You done?
I think so.
All right, I need a lighter.
Well, you're making those.
Going. 123 Nope.
I thought he's good.
That was.
I thought he's going to hit the
light.
I really checked that thing.
What do you got?
A pile?
You got a stockpile of lighters.
Yeah, I do that because just in
case the fuel runs out.
Oh.
It's like the camera was running
defense so he had to throw it
far wide left.
That wasn't even remotely close
to me.
Bad news is the camera was on
Palmer.
Oh, well, that's nice.
All right.
A Florida mom fights off a 5
foot alligator to save her
puppy.
So there's lady's out walking
her dog.
Never seen an alligator.
She's got a pond behind her
house.
She never sees an alligator in
that pond.
Never been one for years.
She's walking a little dog at
the leash, like so you know the
leash is tugging towards the
water.
Alligator got the dog.
No, Fido don't go poopy in their
yard.
OK.
Her four month old dog, Dax was
dragging him toward the Creek
behind her home in Land O Lakes.
The name of the dog was Dax.
DAX Yes.
DAX.
Yes.
So she jumps into water, starts
a fist fight with the alligator.
Oh, a fist fight.
Fist fight, punching it in the
face, punching it in the
eyeballs, just punching it.
It's an older lady too.
It's not like, you know, with
some spry young.
The alligator opened his mouth
to get a better grip and she
rips the dog out of the not rips
because the dog didn't die.
She pulls the dog out of the
alligator's mouth.
Alligator grabs her arm.
Oh, no way.
Yes, so she started punching it
with the other hand.
What the fight this lady?
What?
A tussle.
Yeah, what a tussle.
So she got away.
The alligator got away.
In the picture, she's holding
the little dog and she's got a
bandage that goes from like her
elbow to her wrist.
Yeah, it didn't shred it.
Where the dog grip?
No, apparently not.
Well, alligators normally clamp
and hold and then you know, but
Gator roll, Yeah, they do the
death roll thing, but apparently
this one wasn't satisfied with
his grip.
Or he's can.
How big was how this had to be a
tiny?
Is a 5 foot 5 foot.
Wow, that's pretty.
Big that's that's a good sign. 5
foot well, they came short Well,
and then she runs in the house
and gets her cell phone and
starts videotaping the alligator
because it's still in the water.
Fish and Wildlife came and they,
you know, destroyed the
alligator.
Euthanize it.
Yeah, well.
They'd say destroyed, but you
know, OK, same thing.
All right, so you have dogs.
Yes, you have dog.
Yes, I have dogs, right.
Would you ever walk your dog by
a lake?
Well.
That's what I was going to say.
I thought you were asking a
different question.
We had, we had lakes in the old
neighborhood.
No, I don't walk by the lake.
It's stupid.
Yeah, I'm not walking my dog by
the lake.
Especially this was a little.
Dog, I'm not walking my kids by
the lake.
I'm not even walking by the lake
by myself.
Well, we know that you're as far
as self preservation.
If if you were walking your dog
by the lake and the dog was
attacking like oh God, you just
run the other direction.
Oh, babe, we got to get a new
dog.
Yeah.
Under the dog, you don't want to
know.
We just need one.
Dog.
I don't know.
It ran off.
No, I wouldn't even tell her.
I'm not telling her.
The dog got eaten by an
alligator when I was walking it.
Oh my Lord, could be.
All your fault.
Be in so much trouble, I I don't
know, it ran off into the abyss,
I couldn't see it.
She would know something's up
because when you walk into the
house and after you shit your
pants, it's like, wait a second,
where's the dog?
Maybe one of your shoes is wet.
Right, where's the dog and why
did you shit yourself?
I don't know.
I got to hurry up, go to the
bathroom.
I eat nachos.
Maybe not.
I told you no, Taco Bell.
Right Taco.
Tuesday, Yeah.
So like, I mean, kudos to this
woman for saving her dog.
She had a fist fight with this
thing.
When you say older Palmer, she
must be if she's she looks like
she's older than he is.
So she looks like the. 70s, late
60s, early 70s. 70S yeah, OK,
that's what that's what I
figured when you said that A.
Thin lady, not a big lady, Yeah.
But she had a right hook.
Apparently, yeah, apparently she
did.
So we had a hold of the left
arm, so that was the one had the
bandage on.
I learned.
I learned this one from Sugar
Shane last week.
Pop.
This how my husband beats me.
Oh God, I'm sorry, went a
different way.
Jesus, wow, I went.
A different.
Way straight domestic.
Speaking, Speaking of boxing, I
heard that Floyd Money
Mayweather is in trouble.
Like bankruptcy trouble.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You know, like he had to sell
his jet, allegedly.
And he had to sell his jet.
Yeah, oh, poor thing.
And his his commercial
properties are tanking or
something.
That's what the news thing said.
The money train has stopped.
Yes, he needs another fight.
I mean, didn't he just get paid?
Yeah, yeah.
He got paid like 90 million or
something off of that.
That's how he bought the jet.
That Jake Paul.
He fought Jake or not.
That was Jake Paul, right?
No.
Well, he fought Conor McGregor.
Or Conor McGregor.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I thought it was like 300
million or.
Something.
It was something. 300 and he
still got problems, yeah.
He brought a lot of crystal with
that, with that money.
Apparently.
Apparently he needs to shave
that posse down a little bit.
Either that or did he need it
alone?
I mean, that is kind of wild
though, like because he he did
invest, he bought commercial
property.
Yeah.
So like.
Maybe he bought the wrong.
One, yeah, as you say, obviously
he bought the wrong commercial
property.
So what did he do wrong?
He bought the whole.
Maybe he was embezzled.
Do you think that it maybe if
you're not in that landscape, if
you don't, you don't understand
that portion of business and you
invest into a kind of blind,
you're going to get taken?
Yeah, I guess 'cause you sort of
trust your, what they call them
financial advisors, right?
Maybe this financial advisor
took him for his money.
Or your broker, whatever it is.
Whatever they're called, you've
got somebody that money manager.
Or real estate broker at that
point.
Yeah, I mean, somebody manages
your money for it.
It's not like, you know, get my
checkbook for the 300 million.
I got to write out a power bill.
Usually rock walks around with
like duffel bags.
He's not an idiot, he's a smart
guy.
Well, apparently not.
Well, I mean, I mean, this
sounds like there will probably
be more news that will come out,
but I haven't heard this story.
But I'm sure more news will come
out.
Maybe one of his friends took it
or.
It could be not true, but that's
what I saw, yeah.
What was it on TMZ?
I was on social media.
He's on TMZ.
Now it's legit, you know, it's
like, OK.
Sorry all.
Right, go ahead.
Peach is going to be harder to
find soon.
What is that about?
Pizza shops are closing by the
drones.
By the drones.
That means a lot.
Droves.
It's droves.
Yeah, droves, because drones is
drones.
Many things that fly around.
Yeah, those droves, not drones.
The pizza restaurant sector is
contracting hard in 2026, rising
labor and food costs, high rents
and fierce competition that
force chains into restructuring,
mass closures and bankruptcy
filings across the country.
I thought you think before you
talk.
You don't do that.
Anymore it's talk before you
think I said it backwards.
Remember.
Yeah, I thought you talked
before.
You said the wrong word.
Relax.
By the drones.
So.
If you don't think I'm going to
get an image of drones in your
head, I don't care from a
listener.
Well, now that you just asked
for it, yes.
No, I don't even have to ask for
it.
I you know I get images all the
time.
Probably in the inbox.
Probably, yeah.
So is this like mom and Pops or
is this like oh OK so they
change too?
MOD Pizza?
Anybody familiar with them?
MOD Isn't that a group that did
a song for Fast and Furious?
I don't know.
They had 500 stores in 2014.
It's closed.
A dozen sold assets to Elite
Restaurant Group, and it's
fallen to roughly 448 locations.
Economic pressure continues.
Smaller pizza chains are going
under, including Bertucci back
drafts.
They're filing for bankruptcy.
Domino's franchise group
People's First Pizza and Little
Caesars operator Red Doors both
sought Chapter 11 protection
despite strong brand
recognition.
Pizza Hut's closing 250 US
locations.
Why are pizza places closing?
Trump's got to do something.
Well, they said rising cost
labor.
I guess it's expensive to make
pizza rent.
I mean, I pay a premium for my
pizza.
I know I'm like, this is just
dough and like what?
What?
Well, maybe that's why.
Why do you cost?
I do know Papa John's because I
used to work there.
A pizza there only costs like
$0.75 to make to make.
Well, well.
When I'm paying 12 bucks and
what the Hell's going on?
Well, Papa John's is not is no
longer, in my opinion, the
affordable pizza place.
Might be the only one left.
Because even because you know
there's the promo code, when the
magic win or whatever I do, I
still drop $70 on pizza.
Well, it's because people when
the when the whole magic win
thing happens, people get over.
So I was like, I'll take the
chicken BBQ, I'll take the
Philly cheese thing.
That ain't me.
I'm buying like two or three
pies.
I'm like, where the hell?
How is this so expensive?
Really.
Yeah, but we got a couple of
like local shops that I prefer
to order from anyways.
Yeah, you'd mentioned that
before.
So that's why I look to see and
independent pizza businesses are
part of the larger trend.
There's over 100 in our area
that have closed recently.
The independent ones, yeah,
they're closing down too.
They're closing too.
I better order a pizza today.
You better stock up.
No, I just want to try and keep
them alive.
Oh, we had, we went to Pete's
the other day, but even 1 was
was that hungry?
So we ordered personal pan
pizzas from Pizza Hut.
Yeah, they actually weren't that
bad.
Been a long time since I had a
pizza pan.
Pizzas from pizza.
It's pretty amazing.
Pizza pizza's pretty.
Amazing.
But it's just crazy, the little
Caesar stuff.
Hot and ready for 5-6 bucks.
Yeah, it's great.
That happens all the time.
We do those.
Yeah, you got kids.
Yeah, I do too.
People with kids love the Little
Caesars.
They just.
Pick, you know, pick two up and
be done, right?
Well, 5 bucks, yeah.
They're like 6 now, like a large
or something.
Yeah, it's a decent size.
Is it?
You know, it's kind of funny
that you say this, though,
because if you haven't noticed,
gas stations are starting to
push pizza more like 711 and
Wawa, Yeah.
But that's how you got food
poisoning a couple of weeks ago.
Oh yeah, I know.
Trust me, don't eat at any of.
These I'm still getting food
poisoning, pizza gas station
jokes from people.
Yeah, no, but if you like, if
you go to Wawa, they have like a
2 pizza, like 2 large pizzas for
like 20 bucks, you know, Yeah,
it's not a great, great deal,
but they're still pushing it.
Gas station pizza always looks
so gross.
Yeah, I don't know how you do
that.
I don't normally do that, it's
just sometimes like I'm trying
to grab something quick.
Dude, you're a gas station food
connoisseur.
I don't know what you're
talking.
About I'm on the road all the
time, bro.
Exactly.
So, yeah, but I mean, so am I, I
don't eat gas station food other
than, you know, a bag of chips
or something.
Yeah, I'm just sticking to the
Doritos sweet Thai chili chips.
Yeah, I mean, I see this stuff
all the time, so I'm like, like,
no, I'll be sick by the time I
get a mile down the road.
Do you like how he specifically
mentioned a Dorito?
A special flavor?
I noticed that too.
That's his goat.
I don't think I could even name
a certain flavor of the Rio.
Well, you know, Cool Ranch or
whatever the red 1 is.
Original or Cool Ranch?
Nacho cheese.
Nacho cheese, that one.
Yeah, there you go.
Last Friday, there was a 711
sushi container out in front of
the shop when I was picking up
the garbage.
Like, who was that nasty?
Who was that hungry?
That was not me, I promise. 711
Sushi.
A decision was made.
And it wasn't even spelled
sushi, so I don't think any of
it was real.
Sushi.
Yeah, it's it's like SUZ i.e.
Or something.
The caliber of individual that
purchases gas station sushi is
the same caliber of person that
I think would take the packet
and just throw it on the ground
as they're walking into a store.
Yeah, it's probably one of the
smoke shop people.
Years ago when we were younger,
Adrian and I took a road trip
little vacation thing through
the state and we would only eat
gas station food.
That was like part of the fun of
the trip.
Gas station food only.
Yeah, Yeah.
You guys.
Fucking yeah A.
Lot of time in the bathroom at
the hotel at night.
You guys are talking over each
other a ton, sorry.
Sorry, we get excited.
I know.
You don't like us?
Talk about food.
No.
You can talk about food all you
want, and I can sit here
quietly, That's no big deal.
But no one's going to understand
what you're saying when the two
of you talk at the same time.
We just do the show for us,
yeah.
Well, I hope.
Me and Palmer actually get
together and we watch the show
together.
You're so funny.
No, you're so funny.
You guys have pants.
What do you yell at?
Is that?
Funny, Yes, we have pants on.
Jesus, we don't.
Pants on.
No, we don't wear pants.
You make them wear the mask.
Yeah, I do.
Wow.
I do make them wear the mask.
The one that's got my picture on
the cheek.
I like that one.
Yeah, Oh, it is on the cheek.
It's.
On the cheek, OK, all right, in
Australia, where the sharks are
plentiful.
Good day mate.
A lady and her three children
decided they were going to go
kayaking and paddle board.
Oh my God.
OK.
It was a very nice day out.
The weather.
The weather turned quickly and
pulled them out to sea.
They were about 4 1/2 miles off
or two.
No.
Well, I saw one report said 4
1/2, once at 2 1/2, so let's go
with three, OK?
All right, that's a fair number.
So the lady realized this isn't
good, so she asked her 13 year
old son to try to make it to
shore.
She was going to stay with the
other two because the other two
weren't strong enough to fight
the current and she can't.
She couldn't leave and leave all
the children there so.
So the 13 year old starts
paddling his kayak through the
storm back to the shore.
Halfway there his kayak fills
with water from the waves and
thing and he loses the kayak.
So he starts swimming.
A mile.
No.
Well, it it said he swam 2 1/2
miles, so maybe it was for maybe
he made halfway in the in the
kayak.
Maybe that's what it was.
So the life preserver slowed him
down, he decides, so he takes it
off.
Holy moly.
Swims the rest of the way he
makes it, he collapses on the
beach and he realizes he's about
a mile away from where they
started, where the phone is, the
cell phone is and he needs to
call for help because apparently
there's nobody else on the
beach.
Pulls himself up, runs a mile
down the beach to where the cell
phone is, calls whatever the 911
in Australia and the 611
whatever it happened to be.
And then after a couple hours
they saved the mother and the
kids who had now ended up being
9 miles offshore.
Wow, now all the pictures show
the kid with the kind of
crutches that have the braces on
his arm.
Yeah, but there's no mention of
him having any type of handicap
or disability or anything.
So maybe his legs were just
super tired for the photo after
after the swim.
Oh, so they tiny timed him.
So he said he made it 'cause he
started, he was thinking happy
thoughts.
He was thinking I need to save
my mother and my brother and
sister.
Wow.
I couldn't swim 4 1/2 miles.
Maybe if if someone's life is on
the line.
I don't know, maybe I guess.
I'd be in a lot of pain
afterwards, but.
I'd be walking the crutches too.
I'm not even taking the
interview.
Well, he just photos of him.
He looks very tired.
I'm sure.
He said.
I mean, the mom's smiling, his
brother and scissors smiling.
He's looking like I just went 4
1/2 miles do.
You think he becomes the
favorite child at that point or
no?
You would think it did say the
mother and father are very proud
of him.
Are the other ones girls?
What are the other kids girls?
There's one girl, one boy.
He's not the favorite.
I think the youngest one's a
favorite either.
Way.
That's the girl.
Yeah.
You know he was like you.
Did so well, honey on the paddle
board.
But your sister's better.
He was like sacrificial lamb
right?
Like odds.
Best for you to save the
youngest one is to send you out.
And if you didn't make it, at
least I would die with the one I
like the most.
Is that what it like?
Wow.
You had a good thirteen years.
That's a little dark.
Hypothetically speaking, I don't
like you as much.
I don't want to die with you, so
let's see if you can make it.
I mean, it's a little bright.
I don't know.
So you're in that scenario.
You got two kids, you got a
little one and you got a you.
Know, I mean, that's such a
tough call. 1st of.
All I mean, you had that
situation.
You could be out there with your
two boys and your daughter.
Yeah.
Do you send Jax to shore?
I 100% send Jax not because I
love him less but the the the
the odds are.
Well, out of the three, he's the
obvious choice.
It's always the oldest one.
Well, he's the oldest.
Justice would get bored halfway
through and try and look for
fish, forget where he was going.
Yeah, and.
And Teddy's just too damn small.
I got if roles were reversed, If
Teddy was the oldest, Teddy
could probably do it.
I'd say hey.
You got to save me and your
brothers.
Here's the objective.
Yeah, he's very big.
He's not very buoyant.
I need you to go to shore.
And she'd be like, got it
because.
I mean, with the kayak, I
understand, you know, 'cause OK,
just paddle in, do the best you
can, pedal in with no idea that
halfway in it's going to fill
with water and he's going to
swim and take off the life
jacket because it's bothering
him when he swims.
I could see how the life jacket
could become an issue like
you're trying to, but sure.
Sure, sure.
But I mean, you're not thinking
that though.
You think he's got a life
jacket, he's in a kayak.
He'll be OK.
He's I can see the land kind of
over there.
You said thinking this mom was
not thinking to begin with.
It sounds like she was thinking.
No, let's think about this.
You went on a kayak.
You went how many miles out to
begin with?
Well, they didn't intend to go
out.
The storm came up and just
sucked them out.
Right, Palmer, when you're let's
just say you kayak.
I have kayak.
I used to kayak OK.
Yeah.
Do you go far away from shore?
No, yeah, but I have seen people
that go too far.
That's why the life check, the
lifeguard blows the whistle to
tell you to come again, because
you've.
Done that, they're in trouble
because they're dumb.
Phil, I love you.
I don't even think you can spell
kayak to be honest.
KAYAK.
He uses that website for travel.
Yeah, no, the guy, the cigar
guy, he's a kayak guy.
What's a What's a guy?
Whoever's like at the PCA or
whatever now.
Everybody's at the PCA.
He does the classes at the
colleges.
Joshua Hershey.
I don't know if that's the guy,
it was the guy that.
He just hired not too.
Long ago.
The guy that sounds like Zorro,
I love.
I love his videos by the way.
Maybe, I don't know, remember,
they just hired somebody and
they said he's going to do the
educational things and he's from
the, he used to work a kayak,
remember?
Oh, no, no, like the I think not
like an actual kayak, but like
the.
No the company Kayak.
Gotcha.
But it's spelled the same.
Right, right.
That's how you know it.
That's how you know.
That's how he knows.
Doritos, sweet chili, yada.
Yada.
Hey, I don't have to pull the
story, but why hasn't half wheel
covered any of the PCA board?
The new board members?
I haven't seen anything on half
wheel.
Have they have they done a press
release or?
Yeah.
Because I've seen it in other
places.
I don't know, it's a good
question.
Maybe it's not big news for
them.
I mean, they added two, two
people left, two people came on.
I think that's kind of standard.
But still, it's a, you know,
industry story.
It is news.
I don't know.
It's a good question.
These things.
Because one of them, a whole
lot, 1 of them is the new Joshua
Hibershey, the CEO or the
President.
Whatever 1 he is, they brought
in another one.
Gotcha.
And technically, it still makes
Joshua the boss.
And I looked it up.
Did you Here's a fun fact.
Did you know that we're one of
the only podcasts that when we
get new sources from Half Wheel,
we acknowledge the fact that we
get it from Half Wheel?
Oh yeah, we started doing that
as long as soon as we started
doing.
It makes sense, right?
Yeah, Why not tell everybody?
Why wouldn't you acknowledge
like it's good for the industry
to say, hey, this is the number
one source for media, right,
Right.
Even if we even if we play off
of it and we give it our own
spin or whatever.
And if you're a podcaster and
you're getting this info from
half Wheel, like for one, ask
for permission because we did
that.
Yeah, we did that.
You know which is above and
beyond right?
And then 2.
When you use the source, just
give them the credit.
I mean those guys work their
asses off right?
I don't understand why another
media source can't say credit
half wheel.
Well, it's illegal first of all
for not crediting the source.
That depends how much you change
and stuff I mean, but.
Right, that and you know, I I
think like a podcast is
different from an actual article
place, if you you know.
I mean, it's, it's hard to write
your own articles.
We tried doing that in the
beginning and getting on
people's e-mail list and stuff
for the press releases came out.
Yeah, it's way too much work.
Well, why would you do it if
somebody's already doing it?
And doing it way better than
you.
Right.
Sure, they got more money.
Well, they're, they're probably
all smarter too, yeah.
Certainly.
You know, you think they use
Copilot or ChatGPT or any of
those, the Rhino.
Well, only if they can add words
like teriyaki and Coco nibs and
like use the word.
Maybe they sprinkle those in
afterwards?
Today I'm having Coco nibs.
I was at the barn.
I've had this.
Right, OK.
The mother's name is Applebee.
Sorry I left that out.
The mother's name is Applebee.
Yes, like the restaurant.
Yes.
Does she own the restaurant?
Spelled exactly the same way.
Like Phil's favorite restaurant?
APPELB, EE S.
Hey, don't knock Applebee's,
man.
That's a good restaurant.
Tell me the number.
Tell me the number one thing
from Applebee's.
Oh, that's the the tacos.
The wonton tacos, the.
Wonton tacos.
Yeah, those are good.
We have.
I think we've talked about this
before.
We stopped going to the
Applebee's up, up near here
because it was so bad, right?
But we gave it another try after
like 6 months or a year.
And now, now we go again.
You took a hiatus.
Yeah, because we got 2 bed
services in a row so we're like
and plus the place wasn't clean,
but now they've remodeled and
apparently new management or
something so.
Well, the only time you're
supposed to go to Applebee's
anyways is between 10:00 and
1:00 and you said the bar so you
get everything half price. 10 in
the morning. 10 in the night.
Oh no.
By 10:00 I'm home.
It's happy hour, 10A night to 1.
AM 12:50 Everything's half price
at the bar.
That's wild.
It's whatever's leftovers, I
guess.
Yeah, I go what?
I don't care.
We got these dumpling nachos
that got that got spun back.
Yeah, nobody ate these.
Give me that big guy with a big
head.
Big dumpling nachos actually
sounds pretty good.
Dumpling Nachos.
With the with the with the mask
on.
The mask on asking do you know
me?
Yeah.
Maybe.
Now does it look like that?
Look at me.
Turn my head.
Come on.
All right, Michael, you got some
comments where people said bad
things about me and Buchi.
You want to read?
I sure.
Do.
Go ahead, please.
How?
About me please.
Go ahead.
Oh, you're in this now too?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yep, I thought I'd give great
info.
Everybody loves me.
Everybody does love you.
I know, that's why we should
sell.
Math point out our mistake.
Oh my God, team money went off
today, huh?
Hey he had a lot earlier, is
there new ones from?
Yeah, first of all, he says.
I have a feeling Palmer is on
many people's lists.
Yes, I saw.
That's probably true.
At Crook, Danny wrote Samantha
in the title and Samantha in the
thumbnail.
Genius way to get engagement
from nerds.
And I wrote back laugh out loud.
Thank you.
I'd love to tell you it was
intentional.
I spelled that name wrong every
time I typed it last night.
Yeah, all across all the
streaming services.
Really.
I mean I I thought I went back
and checked and fixed most of
them.
Apparently I missed one.
I have fixed it now but.
Like the big one?
But hey, apparently it's a good
marketing strategy.
Real smoke pod says laugh out
loud.
Send me a patch, I'll make me a
beanie.
They're.
Going to make their own.
I know, sorry guys.
Miguel Rocha.
Hell of an episode, fellas.
Laughed hard as hell.
See which episode, because
they're not always the last.
One that was technical issues.
Oh, there's another good there's
another good comment from that
episode.
Like he started singing that
song in instant nostalgia from a
boy, David Morris.
There was one other one that T
money wrote, but I can't find
it.
And he, oh, he Nope, that's not
it.
And maybe it's gone.
But he was talking about the
fact that the whole Samantha
Guthrie thing that she lives,
her mom lives an hour away from
the Mexican border.
Yeah, I saw.
I saw that and something like
this is actually more common
than you would real.
I'm sure it is.
With it possibly being an
abduction that she could already
be.
She could be.
Oh yeah, she was in Mexico 3
days ago at that point.
And they didn't.
Maybe they didn't realize how
big of a deal stealing this old
person was going to be.
Right, well, I'd probably go oh
look, her mom's rich.
Let's just grab her.
Or that, yeah.
They still old people, so so a
granny.
So the elderly thing for
trafficking is a real van?
I didn't know that.
Well, I don't, I don't know if
they, you know, it's for sex,
but for ransom.
Well, we, I mean, we can't
confirm any of this.
We're just entirely speculative.
Right, we're spitballing there.
There's so much information that
that's, I mean, everybody's got
a different spin.
And anything you click on on
Facebook, you know, you click on
it, they get the details for the
latest updates on the Guthrie
story, and you click on it, it
goes look at this cure for, you
know.
Gotcha.
Right.
Yeah, They might as well just
say gotcha.
Wait, hold on, You can't.
Find the article.
Give us your social.
Yeah, you're not going to
believe what what was just said
about Samantha Guthrie's.
Movie.
Oh, you know, go read details
below Click EDM.
Oh yeah, a lot of toenail
problems too, apparently.
One thing that I that I've that
happened last night, so you
know, we go out on the patio and
Brittany's watching Samantha
Guthrie's.
I'm sorry if I'm screwing up her
last name, her kind of plea.
Oh yeah, I saw that it happened,
but I didn't click on any.
Of that and she's like, this is
gut wrenching, like this is
terrible to watch somebody.
I mean, like that's got to be
sure.
You know, I know that we poke
jokes and fun about everything
and we made a couple of light
jokes about some of this stuff,
but damn, man, when it's I'm
like, Oh my God.
If you like, take my mother.
I'll give you the address.
We'll just say that.
We'll just say she wandered off.
You say that, but I think that
you would feel terrible.
This past weekend, she, we, we
went out there and took her
grocery shopping and a lot of
stuff.
And then she you guys want to
have lunch?
We'll go to the club.
Sure, we'll go to the club and
then for the next 10 minutes it
was how much it was going to
cost her to take us all to the
club.
She gonna have to get a second
job.
It's going to be so much money.
So Adrian and I went.
You know what?
We're not going to go.
We're fine.
We're fine, you know, we got, we
have other things to do, mom.
Connor ended up went going with
her and he said she complained
in the middle of the meal to the
point where he got tired of he
didn't want to eat anymore.
Wow, that's so bad, man.
Yeah, I'm sorry that you're
going through that.
You left out one of the
comments.
Mikey's face when Palmer and
Boots talk about food is the
same as Palmer's face when Mikey
and Boots talk about sports.
Yeah, I didn't.
I didn't see that.
One you left that one I'm.
Sorry.
I didn't see that earlier.
I just didn't see it on this
feed.
And then somebody, the Blair
Witch Project, they associated
to the episode where your face
keeps popping in front of the
cameras because you're moving
the camera around so much.
Yeah, Yeah.
That was also, I think that was
T money as well.
It's funny.
Look, you know, at the end of
the day, I can talk about food,
but the food that you guys talk
about is usually just terrible.
Well, first of all, I like all
food.
Yeah, well, we're well aware so.
You can talk about whatever
food.
What do you want to talk about?
Right.
I mean, I we've.
Broken salmon.
He wants to talk about salmon.
Just piles of salmon and.
Salmon salmon Salmon chicken
breast.
Salmon, rice, chicken, you know.
Yeah, I keep it simple.
No sauce, no flavor.
I don't care.
I love it.
Food is just a necessary evil
for you at this point.
It's just fuel for the machine.
You don't want to eat to enjoy,
you just eat because you have
to.
I.
Enjoy it.
I enjoy food.
I like food.
Not like we enjoy.
Food.
I don't like sweet chili pepper,
yadda.
Yadda, I don't eat that stuff
either.
Have you ever tried them?
No.
She'll knock it till you try.
It is that what the Is that what
the first guy said to you?
Yeah, that's how I went.
To Mom almost bought Takis how
you say it, Takis at the grocery
store because they were on the
side thing and it was a colorful
package.
She goes, oh, what are these?
I'm going to get these.
Connor and I looked there and
go, you're not getting those.
Why not?
I can get whatever I want.
No, we should have went fine.
Why didn't you say try that out?
Yeah, why don't you get those to
try?
They're blue.
You'll love them.
Give you a hard tack.
Honey, if you're watching, go
get mom some Takis.
Oh my God.
All right, cigar news.
Oh yeah.
Alleva, I like how they how they
write word of this one.
Alleva enacts the 2026 price
increase.
We have enacted.
We have enacted, though, we have
put it out now, Alleva's cigar
company just implemented a 4%
price increase across all
cigars, marking their second
hike tied to the US tariffs on
Nicaraguan imports, showing an
international trade policy is
now hitting the cigar industry.
What was it now?
Hitting the industry or just
hitting Oliva?
I think that it's always been
hitting, I think that a a lot of
companies have been kind of
holding off and then maybe they
do a smaller increase and they
have threatened to do this other
one saying, well, we will do it
if it doesn't go away.
And that's why they're calling
it as an enacted.
They did 5% last June and now
another 5% now.
So now they're up 9 points. 5:00
and 5:00. 10 You said four in
the beginning.
I thought you said. 40 Did I say
4 I'm sorry.
Oh yeah, sorry 9.
This just then they changed it
to 5.
They decided their math was off
and they were 5.
OK.
Let's see the tariff rate
jumping from 10 to 18% by late
July.
It is still 18, I checked the
other day.
It is still 18.
It's still sitting at 18.
So they're covering.
Half.
Right, which should essentially
cover their whole whole
wholesale cost I guess whatever
possibly.
The good news is it's only their
cigars, not the accessories.
Well, the accessories aren't
made.
Exactly.
But those are even higher
tariffs coming out of China
still.
Are they?
Well, yeah, China has pretty
high tariffs.
I thought that they've worked
all that out.
It didn't come down, back down
to where it was.
It's still a little higher than
it used to be.
It might be 18, I think.
OK.
But coincidentally.
Yeah, that's true.
Look, devil's advocate, how do
you how do you feel about the
economy right now?
Are you stressed about it?
What do you think?
I'm not stressed about it, but
until you start reading thing,
you know, pizza places are
closing, this is closing, this
guy's going out of business, you
know, all these guys raising
prices.
And then maybe you start to
worry a little bit.
Maybe it's worse than I thought
it was.
I had heard or read that 2026
was supposed to be a good year.
OK, 2026 panning out pretty good
for us so.
Far.
Well, yes, yes.
You know what I mean, right,
Like it's freezing cold winter
in in some of these some of
these retail shops and they're
still buying.
They they're like, Hey, we need
we need a re up, right.
That means that someone's buying
cigars.
Somebody's buying cigars
somewhere.
Right.
You know, online and in store.
I don't know man.
It's not looking that bad.
Looking pretty good from where
I'm sitting.
Yeah, the cars already started.
You know what I mean?
So we're not a pizza shop
though.
Well, we're not going under like
those guys, so.
No, we're not a pizza shop.
I mean, people like pizza.
It just seems odd that pizza is
one of the, you know, the
restaurant industry or whatever
they're called that's taking a
hit.
I think that pizza is hitting a
price point threshold that
people are like, what am I
doing?
That's true, Yeah.
What am I doing?
It is just pizza, right?
Well, you, well you said they
declared bankruptcy anyways.
I mean they just declared
bankruptcy.
That doesn't mean that they're
closing all their.
Shops.
No protection from creditors or
whatever it's called.
Right.
So maybe something, you know,
maybe all those guys took a loan
or something back in the day
and.
Maybe maybe they expanded too
far.
Maybe what a Pizza Hut's closing
shops because they made too
many.
And there's a lot with the with
the corporations.
Because I think Little Caesars
is actually like a big sponsor
of the NFL.
I didn't hear anything about
Little Caesars.
Yeah, they would not mention
about Little Caesars.
No, you said Domino's.
Domino's is still has more
locations than anybody else in
America.
Domino's, they've made an
adjustment too on their pricing.
They're competing against Little
Caesars for that.
Yeah, yeah, that value pizza.
The 5-6 dollars.
There Domino's.
Domino's.
Yeah, Instead of pizza.
Pizza.
That's correct, but again, still
I like to support a local
restaurant anyways, so.
Yeah, I think the by the way,
China's tariffs are at 37 1/2.
Oh, it's still high.
But not 99% or whatever he did,
whatever he threw at it
originally.
Yeah, they're not Washington.
I thought it was the same as
Nicaragua, like at 18, is what I
said.
I thought it'd come down to
that, but I forget what I was
going to say.
Go ahead, Boots, read something
else.
I don't read something else.
I'm hoping to get an angry text
from Skip on this one too.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, Can he, can you text
earlier in the evening, Skip,
maybe if that'd be OK, not
between the 10:00 and 11:30
thing.
I have to turn my phone off
because you guys are going back
and forth.
Yeah.
Because at night tonight I plug
it in the bedroom and then I'm
still out in the living room or
I'm out doing something in the
kitchen and the Adrian's like
somebody's calling you.
Yeah, if you're agitated with
what we said, you know,
appropriate time to text,
probably be earlier for Palmer,
so.
Yes, thank you.
Considering he goes to bed at
7:00, yeah.
I go to bed at 7:00.
I'm up kind of late actually,
but if I go to bed at 7:00, then
I'm up at midnight for two or
three hours.
So that's just ridiculous.
I text you at like 9 and I'm
thinking I got a 5050 shot.
Here.
Yeah, at 9:00 you got 50. 50
shot I'm like, I might be but
let me just get this out.
Of the way like last night I
went to bed at nine.
Yeah, but we forgot to take the
dogs out before we went to bed,
so at 11 the dogs had to pee.
So you walk them by a lake?
No, I just let it out in the
backyard.
Right.
You ever scoop that poop?
Outback or no?
Outback.
We pick it up every Saturday.
Saturday is poop scoop cleaning.
Saturday's poop cleaning day.
Nice.
You know they have a company
that will come out and do it for
like 75 bucks for the month.
I have a hard time paying for
something that I can do myself.
Yeah, I can.
Do minimal repairs or build, you
know, a sun shade thing over the
grill or something.
If I can do that myself, I can't
pay somebody.
It just seems ridiculous.
I I can't do any of that myself,
but I have good friends that I
suck into for helping me with
that and they they're happy to
oblige.
Hey, so I don't.
Like having people come help.
Hey, so I'm repairing this like,
do you have a hammer?
I'm like a what?
What?
What is that?
Never heard of it.
Do you have one?
Oh, you did.
Perfect.
So if it's not too heavy, I can
lift it.
I, I go for things that are
heavy.
I need help.
Which is where I call Michael to
come over.
This is heavy.
Come.
Move it from me.
Come.
Help me move this stuff.
I think the economy is doing
great.
Yeah, well, I was going to ask
you too.
What do you do?
You think so?
Yeah, I think the economy is
doing perfectly fine.
I mean, I mean, in my industry,
people are breaking out the
checkbook left and right.
Really.
Yeah.
I mean, they're they're they're
spending cash and it's like not
for like necessity things,
right?
It's like unnecessary.
About repairs, it's remodels.
Right luxuries, right?
Is that because housing is still
so expensive?
And then you go, look, we can't
afford a new house, but we could
put the new bathroom in.
I feel like housing is starting
to correct a little bit.
It is.
Yeah, it is.
So.
Interesting stuff man.
I don't know.
I just don't like.
I hate the gloom and doom.
I hate the you.
Know yeah, I do too.
I hate all.
That I'm willing to say, OK,
things are a little tough right
now, but we're going to navigate
through these waters or whatever
the case may be, but I'm never
like, sky is falling right?
Here we go, you know.
That's the other brother.
Yes.
He was very optimistic the other
day when we were talking about
something.
That's because we.
Are working our ass off and
providing.
That that was the main thing.
Can you guys do that again?
Yeah, I'm like, I don't.
Yeah, we're hitting.
We're hitting some numbers over
here.
Yep, all right.
Moving on, Foundation announces
a price increase.
We ship the COD, Yeah.
No, that's OK.
So this is this.
Here we go.
We're getting closer to getting.
Closer to PCA, that stuff's
starting to come out now.
Foundation company will
implement an average 2% price
increase starting March 1st.
Oliva started February 1st
though.
They did it and then now they're
telling us that.
Oh, by the way.
Oh, by the way, that box you
bought is a little more
expensive than you thought.
March just in time for PCA.
But Nick Melillo, he is his
March 1st, affecting most of the
major lines including Charter
Oak, Hi Claire, Castle, Olmec
and the Tabernacle, signaling
steady cost pressure rather than
a sharp jump.
Oh.
He says it's from rising
material and labor costs, just
like the pizza in Nicaragua,
along with ongoing production
challenges in the Connecticut
River Valley.
As the main drivers behind the
increase, What would be
production problems in the
Connecticut River Valley?
Production challenges.
Maybe too much.
Rain.
No, it's actually the opposite.
Cold flood vanity.
Yeah, like there's a, I mean,
he's actually, he did a good
seminar about this in PCA and
like he explained how like it's
sandy roots, like the ground.
So like the roots have to push
down to get towards the river.
But I think that the river, the
water isn't as obtainable as it
once was.
So there's there's been
struggles with this for years.
So it's drying up.
Yeah, I think that's the case.
I think that's what it is.
I'm sure that maybe this will be
Skip's angry text.
No, you idiot, this is what it
is.
OK, Perfect.
Should we say the corrections
you gave us yesterday?
No.
No, no.
Is there we should do the one
for the craft?
Oh, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's not 20,000 different
cigars, it's 12 different
cigars.
And every box is is the same,
but every cigar in the box is
different, right?
Right, not 20, not 200,000
different.
They're not.
They're not like.
Snowflakes.
So maybe we talked about this
before, but is there any cigar
company out there or
manufacturer that has created
like a fake dirt or whatever and
uses in like a lab or something
created tobacco from it?
Is there 'cause like it seems
like there's more and more
issues with crops and stuff.
You know, obviously the elements
outside are.
You can't control those.
Sounds expensive?
Well, the argument is.
Maybe in the beginning?
The argument is that does a
contained atmosphere change the
flavor profile of these specific
leaves?
So you know, just like wine in
specific areas, you know,
different soil content as well
as salt in the air, humidity
levels, you know, will create
different crops.
You know, if you if you if you
did that, would that work?
And I don't know if that that
that question really hasn't been
answered yet.
So.
OK, so nobody has done it.
Well, he specifically asked if
someone has made fake dirt to
grow.
Well, I mean like just, you
know, recreated tobacco.
It can be in whatever
environment, doesn't, I mean, in
a lab, right?
But you're saying it takes more
than just the dirt.
You're saying that it takes
everything in the air?
Everything.
Well, I'm I'm saying that's the
argument.
The argument is you know XYZ as
far as everything else as you
know, rain for the season
because it's sunlight,
temperature, all of those things
that make make leaves do
specific things.
Yeah, I, I mean like, cause the
dirt should have like certain pH
levels and all that kind of
stuff in it.
So you would think like they do
this for for lettuce and they do
this for other things.
Right.
Can't they find a guy who grows
pot to grow tobacco?
I mean, they can grow that in
your, you know, they can hide it
in your living room.
And it's not illegal.
Maybe maybe.
I heard that there's a company
in Spain that has been working
on hydroponics with tobacco
hydroponics.
I mean, it would be cool
because, you know, like, there's
been years where there's been
certain crops that have, you
know, not been able to grow
because of certain issues with
the outside elements and they
weren't able to grab that
tobacco, right?
So if they were able to grow
something indoors to where they
could always have access to that
tobacco, then you wouldn't have
those issues anymore.
Like controlled environment.
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't think of
the word.
OK.
Then they maybe they could grow
that tobacco that they find in
the rainforest so they got to
bring out in canoes somewhere
close.
Very rare.
But they could bring it.
They could grow it themselves
close instead of growing wild in
the jungle.
Very rare, I know.
It's very.
Rare.
What do you what are those
people called that?
Growing it Pygmies, those are.
Pygmies, but that's the
Cameroon.
Is that also?
Pygmies.
Those aren't the Amazonians.
They're not really called pig.
No, Pygmies are the Marrifel.
Marrifel's made friends with the
Pygmies and they do the Cameroon
tobacco.
Yeah, that is literally true.
I always thought that was like a
slang word for people for.
Oh, so he's been calling people
pygmies thinking they were part
of his racist profile?
Yeah, because what's?
That yeah.
Pygmy.
Yeah.
Larry the Cable Guy.
It's a real group of people that
live in the Amazonian jungles or
whatever it is.
Oh wow, and they're small.
I always thought Larry the Cable
Guy was being racist.
I'm like man, why did this guy
always say the Pygmy's down in
New Guinea like.
He's going to go, I'm going to
go raise schools with people at
the Pygmies down in New Guinea.
Lord help me please.
Thank you.
Amen.
It doesn't say.
About Pygmies in New Guinea.
Cultivated by local farmers in
the.
Bridge, You see the first
Indiana Jones where he's being
chased by those little guys and
he gets away in the airplane.
Yeah.
Those are pygmies.
Oh, the spear chuckers.
You need a red light or
something.
You keep running everybody over
today.
It's driving me nuts.
I was in mid sentence explaining
what I just looked up.
You were mumbling.
I figured you were reading it
yourself.
Nope, talking to this mic.
Oh, it's too far away.
They can't hear.
You maybe you need, maybe you
need what are those things
called?
Hearing aids.
Hearing aids.
I'll need hearing aids.
Well, he has him, he just can't
see him.
There's those real small ones.
Yeah, I'm going to buy.
Some I've got a well, I've got a
friend who's got the small,
like, I didn't know he had them.
Yeah.
And he Bluetooths him to his
phone and listens to music and
stuff.
Really.
Oh my God, that would make my
life so much easier.
What did?
Because nobody knows.
Yeah.
You know, he's sitting there.
Yeah.
He's watching TV or something.
You think he's doing fun?
You're talking to him.
He doesn't hear you go.
Hey.
And then he.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I had my.
I had ACDC in my ear.
Sorry bro.
CDC All right, Freud.
Oh yes.
Not Sigmund the Freud Cigars is
releasing an Elvis themed cigar.
Really.
I ain't a little late.
Little late on that.
What's it called?
The Banana cheeseburger.
Freud Cigars launched a new
limited cigar line honoring
Elvis Presley, featuring A7 by
38 Lancero Vitola.
That doesn't strike me as Elvis,
but OK.
A nod to Elvis reported
preference with thinner cigars.
Elvis like thinner cigars.
Did he?
Apparently that's what they're
saying.
With only 1000 boxes produced
for the first release.
The blend leans premium and
complex, using a Dominican
Habano 2000 rapper Sumatra
binder and a multi country
filler mix set and glues.
Dominican broadleaf, Crayolo 98,
Pluto, Ecuadorian Corojo, Bizo
bruise, all sorts of stuff.
So now.
A 38 gauge right crammed olive
in the 38.
And a 38 gauge.
Just little tiny pieces.
There's no Elvis Sprinkle Dingle
in there.
No sprinkle Dingle it.
Comes with the ashes.
It's made of the Tablicalera,
William Ventura and the
Dominican Republic.
Oh, he's making a lot of stuff
lately.
He's.
Always.
But I mean, Elvis, isn't it sort
of, you know, past now?
What's it called?
The Elvis.
It's called the Elvis.
But there was just an
anniversary for Elvis for
something.
Was there?
Yeah.
Yeah, just just an Elvis themed
cigars.
Just the Elvis.
Love me tender.
No, it's just the Elvis.
Oh that would be a great name.
Will the LV and the LE be called
Suspicious Minds?
I don't think so.
Oh.
Yes, it's called teddy bears.
You should make an LE called
suspicious.
Minds suspicious.
Minds.
I have a name for an LE.
Oh, OK.
You mentioned it yesterday.
No, I haven't.
Don't mention it because people
grab it.
You mean who's your daddy?
Yeah, who's your daddy?
That was a good one.
Our first football theme cigar
we're doing here, pushing
cigars, but we're going to spell
Hoosier different so we don't
get in trouble.
With AZ.
Right with two ZS.
Yeah.
HOOZZ. i.e.
R Hoosier, Daddy.
Or there's a tire company called
Hoosier where they they do A2
OS.
Oh, I don't know, is the we're.
Going to use two OS and two ZS.
Yeah, we're going to just avoid
everybody.
So they've been working on this
cigar for a year with Authentic
Brands Group and Elvis Presley
Enterprises, so they have
permission from the family.
Well, that's good.
Ensuring the Elvis name and
likeness were officially
licensed, with plans already in
place to make the line a regular
release.
That's kind of cool working with
that family.
Who's running it?
How do you know it's the family?
Elvis Presley Enterprises.
That doesn't mean it's, you
know, Mama Presley, right?
Oh, I guess at this point.
It's just his daughter, left,
right.
Priscilla.
Priscilla.
Priscilla died, didn't she?
I have no idea.
I think, well, if you only had
something in your hand where you
could look these things up by we
run the show.
Oh.
That's a cigar.
Mikey's looking it up.
Just don't talk over when he
finds it.
Right.
Because we'll never know.
All right, then they talk about
the Agape, my favorite cigar
that I can't say they made that
with Aladio Diaz, a friend.
Aladio.
Aladio.
Aladio.
It doesn't.
Mario's brother.
It doesn't say that Priscilla's
dead.
I mean, she's not, she's got to
be really old, but I know she
had some really bad plastic
surgery.
It was so funny and I was like
Aladio.
What was he down in Nicaragua
when you were there too?
No.
No, no, That was for my movie.
He's like, he's like, oh, it was
really Emilio Estevez.
He's like, I saw Emilio.
It's so funny.
I was like Emilio, sorry.
You know, he's really good
friends with Tom Cruise.
Amelia Estevez, yeah.
Yeah, she's still alive.
She's still alive, good for her,
it has been confirmed.
Beep beep beep beep.
This just in she is alive.
She wasn't married him long.
Six years.
Well, she was underage when they
started, so they don't count
some of that.
Yeah, didn't he die?
No they do count it but she was
underage.
I think he married her like 15
or something.
Really.
I'm guessing I don't know
allegedly or whatever the word
is so I don't get sued.
Yeah, please don't sue me.
Juarez is coming out with a mini
dozer.
I saw this this.
I actually want to try this
cigar.
When you were looking at the
scores for the review.
No yeah, saw it on Facebook
yesterday.
Juarez mini dozer Ellie 2026 is
coming this month.
Are we getting the mini dozer?
I haven't heard from our Rep
yet, but I'm sure we will.
Who is our Rep?
Wait, the guy was just here?
Yeah, Carlos I.
Think he would have pitched
that?
While he was here, yeah, you
would think.
Maybe he didn't know.
Maybe.
Crown Heads is bringing back the
bulldozer concept in a shorter,
more time friendly format with
the Juarez Mini Dozer 2026A4 by
A4 by 58 box press cigar with a
pigtail cap.
OK, same box and everything.
Same fillers and everything.
Crown has been doing a lot of
good things, like the last, I
don't know, year or so.
I like the Tennessee Waltz.
Yeah, and it being regular
production?
And the Broadway is good.
Yeah, a lot of they've they've
they've hit a couple.
Broadways good, I had my loves.
They've hit a couple of good
ones out of the park recently.
All.
Right, they're making 1500 boxes
of 12 cigars.
Price, Gentlemen, it's a little
cigar.
Boots.
Still, I would think this one's
probably crown heads.
Crown heads. 9.
That's a good price, I must say
8. 985 yeah, it went the wrong
way.
I had 10.
You would have won.
I had no choice, yeah.
Make it into compact but still
powerhouse limited release
according to Co founder John
Huber the mini dozer delivers
the same punchy flavors dark
chocolate, oak, pepper earth and
subtle sweetness no cocoa nibs
00 just without the long smoke
time because it's cold to people
like shorter cigars when it's.
Cold.
Is that how that works?
What people like explain to then
explain to me why we're selling
toros.
It's not cold here.
Across the nation.
Well, because it's most popular
size.
And they're.
Smoking it outside.
They're waiting for spring.
Again, ready.
I'll be honest with you, it was
just cold here recently, right?
It's like 27° outside.
I didn't smoke one cigar in the
cold because I was trying to
concentrate on surviving
outside.
You weren't going to die.
It's because you have no sack.
I didn't change anything.
For me, I smoked the same amount
of cigars outside the whole
front time.
Oh, I didn't smoke outside.
I.
Have to have a child.
That's why we came up here
Sunday.
I had a cigar here instead of
outside.
He just said, well, I'm about to
have a child.
Yeah, your wife's already done.
I saw your wife the day before
yesterday and she's, she said
she's already finished.
She's done.
Yeah, she's over.
Take the baby now I'm done.
Yep.
Yep, I told us what happens when
you get older.
We're still in early phases
here.
Yeah, first quarter or first,
third, first third, if you will.
First trimester.
Yeah, there's three trimesters.
1st, 3rd and then the first
third of my pregnancy and it.
Won't you know, I put my shoes
on, call me inside and I said
the first third of the baby
being born.
By the way, the cats love your
couch over there, by the way,
just so you know.
He's on the dump trailer.
Yep, I see the cats over there
all the time now.
This is great.
We have our own couch.
Man, I went out to Circle K the
other day and there was a
raccoon.
Have you seen this raccoon
outside?
Oh, the Our raccoon is very
brazen now.
He's out in the daytime.
He's super fat.
I saw him yesterday.
Yeah.
Because there's a lady feeding
him over there.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, so I went over to Circle K
and like, first of all, you can
make this a whole video if you
really wanted.
To He attacked Keanu.
Yeah, he followed.
Keanu.
He thought Keanu was bringing
him food.
Yeah, that's what he I got out
of the truck and he looked at me
right.
And it's like, I don't know,
man, Raccoons, when they give
them glassy eyes, I think they
have rabies, right?
So like I seen these glassy
eyes.
I was like, hey, bro, what you
what you want?
You know, he's like, he's coming
closer, coming closer.
I.
Like some of that food in there.
And you better stop.
And he started running at me, so
I ran into the truck.
Oh God, it just went to Parker's
car Outback.
I think just sitting in the
parking place wouldn't move.
Yeah, so I took AI had a French
fry in the truck.
So I threw a French fry as far
as I could and he ran after it
and I went in the Circle K real.
Quick bitch threw the fry.
That was that was a tough
decision for you.
It was.
Yeah, they were.
Hardly.
Afraid.
Yeah.
So you can see his hands shaking
and he's got the fry.
How long has it been on the
floor?
Like this?
Yeah.
He saw an Eminem instead, so he
ate that and gave him the thing.
All right.
Bonus phone fag.
Yeah, I have a bonus fun bag.
Juarez line is inspired by
cocaine Blues with vitola names
pulled from the song storyline,
Correct?
Well, yeah, I was telling
people, Yeah.
Was it a question?
No, yeah, but that's.
Oh, I assumed it was.
Mikey was just confirming it.
Yeah.
Oh, thank you.
I appreciate that.
You're welcome.
All right, it's time for the
industry's favorite game.
What's the score?
Today's cigar from October 28th,
2023 Brooks Whittington Artisan
Artisanio del Tobacco Cigars
Nicaragua reviews the El Pupo
Octo Ocho.
Octo Ocho, do you remember your
answer?
The portal sound?
Can we hear that again, Phil
from Yesterday I.
Don't remember.
All right, scores, gentlemen.
El pupo octo ocho.
I'll go first by Brooks.
Yes. 90, 8989.
Yep, El pupu octo ocho from
Nicaragua, from the San Letano
factory.
I was not aware.
Delicious.
What?
Delicious.
Mexican San Andreas rapper Nicki
Raguan Binder Nicaraguan filler
It's a 7 by 38 is a Culebra.
Culebra Culebra 1333 Kulebra.
Can you say that word again?
Kulebra, I put it on here
phonetically, so I say it right.
OK.
It is 3 cigars boots weaved
together.
Yes, I've seen them.
OK.
Just making sure you knew what
it was.
I think you gave me one one
time.
I don't know 80. 9 Not every.
It means snake.
I didn't realize.
I didn't realize that was the
size.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's really
a weird thing to smoke.
Do you know why I was created?
Well, yeah, it's for smoking
with your friends, right?
No.
No, I know.
I know, I know, I know.
Go ahead, Palmer.
Palmer.
Because the workers were only
allowed to take one cigar out of
the factory, so by weaving 3
together it becomes one cigar
and they actually get 3 cigars.
Correct.
That's not a point for.
Me.
Palmer's only is to smoke with
your friends.
You're supposed to give one to
each friend and you guys smoke
them.
Is that how that works?
I don't have friends.
I'm giving cigars too.
You don't?
No.
Well, I do, but I don't want him
to hit me up for cigars all the
time.
Do you guys guess new cigars?
No.
They smoked three of them.
Yeah, I lowered mine to 89.
So what did he say?
I will stay at 89.
Welcome.
Welcome, Mikey.
Glue and #1 The cigar delivers
layers of espresso, leather,
oak, Coco nibs.
He loves it.
Coco nibs dark chocolate peanuts
stand out, Maple serve sweetness
on the retrohail that keeps
developing through each 3rd 90.
Yeah, 91.
She make a shirt with Brooks's
face on it and just says Coco
nibs.
I love Coco nibs.
Well, he said the peanuts and
all that like that.
Last time he said that it was a
horrible cigar, but it rated a
93.
I remember because we had a
conversation about.
You're sewing all right.
Clue #2 draws were consistently
smooth with strong smoke
production and most cigars burn
cleanly with minimal issues,
showing solid craftsmanship for
a complex two labra style smoke.
90 Does that mean he smoked all
three?
So when he says he smoked 3
cigars, did he smoke three
groups of cigars or three?
Great.
Question.
Curly Cigars.
Great question.
Go either way.
Can we get these guys on the
show 1 time?
Dude, anytime.
Yeah, we should have him read
one of his own.
Oh, we should play What's the
Score with one of the guys from
What's the Score?
Yeah, yeah, he's so good with
one that hasn't come out yet.
I don't know if you get away
with that.
But no, you should play like, if
you're playing with who?
Who are we reading right now?
Brooks.
Brooks, we should do a Charlie.
Make it, get the guy that lives
nearby to come in and we'll have
him read it.
Brian.
Brian.
Brian I.
Might have his phone number. 90.
I heard you want.
Do you already say Oh?
Yeah, I said that too.
So he's just going to copy me?
Clue #3 Two of the three cigars
required small burn corrections
in the 2nd and final thirds,
which slightly disrupted and
otherwise well performing smoke.
91 See that bad news?
I went up just to get off of
you. 90.
Final thought, I've always
enjoyed smoking a Culibra and it
helps when the blend is
enjoyable as well.
Thankfully, the latter is not an
issue for El Pupo Octo Ocho, his
main flavors of oak, cocoa nibs,
and leather combined with some
distinct Maple syrup sweetness
on the retro rail.
Having said that, the
combination of black pepper and
full string does an impact on
the enjoyment of the final third
and while the overall
construction was quite good, two
cigars needed multiple
corrections with my lighter to
avoid larger issues.
In the end, I enjoy the El Pupo
Octo Ocho quite a bit for the
cigar it is now, but I think
that sometime aging outside of
their coffins and box natch will
do wonders for the blends
balance and the final third down
the road.
Think it means natural?
OK.
I'm going to say 90.
This is the third clue, right?
That's it, you're done.
That was the final thought.
Oh, this is the final thought.
You.
Should have been paying
attention.
It's over.
It's over, Johnny. 89. 89 And
what was yours 9087?
Yeah, baby.
Wow.
He used the word Coco nibs and
it didn't rank at a 90.
A second time.
Method to his madness.
Yeah, he's going to have to give
up the Coco nib.
You know what?
Palmer's finding ones.
No, I go by the names.
I like the names of them now.
That was a good one.
I go for the names and then
scores.
Do you think the score got taken
down because of the type of
cigar that was?
No, it was just construction.
Construction gave a problem.
He did.
Had to keep lighting the thing,
yeah?
OK, where you going to be?
Said it was just OK.
It's Friday.
I will be leaving Bean in Saint
Augustine with Island Gym.
We're having a party, 5:00 to
8:00 PM Come on down.
Which means today.
Yes, today.
Tonight I will be leaving Bean
with Island Gym.
Island Gym will be there because
he likes me.
He likes to show up when I'm
there.
He's a sweet man.
He's your friend.
Now I've got to know him.
Yes, he's very nice.
Yeah.
And what else?
You got one other one.
Be at Northport Cigars I believe
is the 25th.
It's a midday event because he's
got a big crowd on middays that
day.
OK.
And where's that at?
Northport Northport cigars in
Northport, Florida.
Perfect.
I think it starts at 1:00.
OK, all right.
Anything else to add?
Nope.
All right.
Well, hey, thank you very much
for viewing and watching.
Like and subscribe wherever
you're watching or viewing the
show.
Are you doing any more podcasts
you want to say you're doing?
I know I got I'm going on simply
stogies here pretty soon.
I've got one in March but it's
not till I think from.
The middle of March, did one of
you guys going down to her?
I did, Mikey just did.
Down to her.
Yeah.
Why did they have a guy in a
suit?
I don't know.
Yeah, that that was supposed to
be you.
Was it?
Maybe it's supposed to be me
because I think it's a white
haired guy in a suit, but I
wasn't on the show.
I.
Was going to say because.
Yeah.
Because my.
I'd never seen Mikey.
Well, I'd seen him wear a suit
one time, yeah.
Funeral.
No, no, no.
I was at a charity event.
Oh.
Oh, the dinner at the school.
Oh, yeah, All right.
All right, guys.
Thank you very much.
We got to go bye.
Bye.
Show Notes
On todays Show Florida woman says no Sir to an alligator with a right cross!. Pizza is going to be harder to get soon! And in Australia a 13 yr old saves his mother and two siblings who got lost at sea! In cigars some prices increases some new cigars and then a mini game of what’s the score!