ACHP 465 Superbowl Post Show

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This is how we're gonna start yeah we're gonna start this is how it's gonna go okay welcome to a cigar Welcome to the Wastler Podcast episode 465, I'm Mike Palmer, the only man in America that has not watched one second of the Super Bowl. No way. I didn't watch any of it. You're kidding me.

Nope, didn't watch a thing. You didn't watch a single second of the Super Bowl. No, but this morning I did watch all the important stuff for us to talk about. Okay.

You didn't watch Patrick Mahomes play? He wasn't playing, was he? Yeah, he was on. The Chiefs didn't play?

Yeah, no, he's no longer there. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, he's on Seattle.

Is he really? Yeah. Yeah. You guys are lying.

I guess he knows enough about sports. He don't. I'm your host. And with me today, as always, is Phil PropBet McGuffey.

Bing bong. And engineering. Did your prop bets pay off? Not for the Super Bowl.

No, they did not. The day before the Super Bowl was good, but not the Super Bowl. I do know Drake lost a million dollars. Drake?

Yeah. Okay. That's not, I mean, it's a lot. But I read who's dating that Cardi B that has the baby from the football game?

Stephon Diggs? 2 million for her and her crew to go to the Super Bowl. Oh. Yeah, but that, I mean, yeah, it's a lot of money.

It's a lot of money. An engineer to my co-host, Mikey, I chose so bad for the Super Bowl winner you'd think I was one of the moneymakers, Stepon Kavich. I, what? Wow.

Chose so bad. You went on and on how the Patriots are going to win last week. Yeah. They didn't win.

I chose so bad. Wow. You're one of the moneymakers. It's more of a knock at the moneymakers than you, so just relax.

Just take it and just move on. Okay. We do make money. We just didn't make money in the Super Bowl.

I don't know if you make money. Okay. I don't, yeah. From our general assessment and from our viewers assessment, total earnings of the moneymakers may not equal total losses of the moneymakers.

And that makes you sound like a true degenerate gambler. And then you only talk about your W's and you don't really talk about your L's you know like man I made five thousand dollars this week great how much did you lose last week ten thousand but that's not important right not important right now I'm on the I'm in the black on this week you want to know what makes it the dinner degenerate gambler when people don't win their parlays and then they I hear them go you know what I'm gonna go buy a scratch off maybe I'll win that so somebody said that to you yeah I'm like Why would you waste more money? Come on, Ginger, get with the program. Oh, it wasn't Ginger.

It's the only other moneymaker's name right now. It's Robbie Doyle right there, buddy. Oh, that does sound like a Robbie Doyle. Is Robbie Doyle one of the moneymakers?

No. Well, yeah, he is, but I don't know if he played. Does he do scratch-offs? I have no idea.

He seems like a cheap guy. I don't think he would buy a scratch-off. He's a casual moneymaker. Yeah.

All right, on today's show, we're all about the Super Bowl info. Then the Navy lost a secret weapon. A Maryland paramedic went all in. And then in Cigar News, we have a new portal entry, a new cigar.

Price increases. No, no price increases, but Terrence Riley turns 109, and then we end the show with a big what's the score. All right. But first, Mikey, how do we get some of that CHPod football swag?

com for all of your podcast swag, where you buy one, you get the second one 40% off, And if you spend $100 or more, you're going to get free shipping. I did just get the hats in. Oh. Yes.

Like, since you were here? Yeah, I ordered, no, yeah, I ordered, I ordered them, and they came, they arrived Friday. Oh, so you had them home. Oh, you should have brought one.

Yeah, I guess I should have brought one. Yeah. But I needed, I wanted to get it and have, like, my physical hands on it so I can actually measure where I think what will work as far as, like a press. Oh, I just want to see a blank one, just see how they fit.

I'll bring it tomorrow. Okay. I'll bring it tomorrow. So that's coming soon.

Nice. That's coming soon. Hopefully... Don't put a date on it.

Yeah, don't put a date on it. Yeah. Bad idea. Bad idea.

It's coming soon. We have people making their own beanies. Right, I saw that. Real smoke pot.

Making his own beanies. And it looked great. I'd love one. That was nice.

Yeah, a nice piece of paper on that. It was nice. It was a big patch too. Yeah, it was huge.

It looked great. That was nice. Oh, man. Is that considered counterfeit?

Are we being knocked off now? Yeah. Trademark infringement. Trademark infringement.

Uh-oh. Calling our attorneys. You'll be hearing from my lawyer. That's right.

Uh, yes. Okay. All right, well, uh, let's get into this. All right, let's get into the Super Bowl.

Oh, by the way, like and subscribe wherever you're viewing or watching, and now let's get into the Super Bowl. All right, first off, I have a question. Yeah, well, first of all, you didn't see it, so. Well, it doesn't matter.

All the stuff I'm going to talk about I have seen, and then I let you guys do the sporty stuff. Okay. All right, since most people have to work or go to school on Monday, should the Super Bowl be moved to Saturday? No.

Okay, why? It's because. Just deal with it. I know why he's asking.

I saw this on one of the commercials or something, or on the radio or something, they asked that question. It is the number one. Call out day? Call out day.

Yes, because it's a national thing. It's a special thing. Up north it's hunting, but for nationwide it is the call-in day. Okay.

Well, I mean, you know, like the guy, you know, I have a guy that works out with me right now. Right. He obviously couldn't make it. You know?

Couldn't make it? Yeah. And then he's gonna give you some excuse. Yeah.

That's gonna be the greatest thing about it. I just woke up. Like, I got it. Like, well, I'm finished.

What time did the game end? Oh, like 10:30? Yeah, it was early because they went quick. Oh, well, that's not too bad.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, even with some of my friends that were at the house, like, all right, as it, like, the fourth grounds, fourth ground, fourth down, fourth quarter. Fourth quarter? It was winding down.

Throw out all the football terminology. As the fourth quarter was winding down, they started to kind of like, all right, well, I'm tired, I'm going to leave, and like, aren't you tired? I'm like, probably going to be up for the next two hours before you're up smoking anyway, you know, so I was just going to call it Sunday for me. I don't know what to tell you.

Right. Yeah, no, I like it. Keep it on Sunday. That's fine.

Is there a reason they play on Sunday? Is it just tradition at this point? I think that that's when they started Super Bowl. The football was always on Sunday.

Football Sunday, man. Football Sunday? Yeah. All right, just curious.

What do you think, Boots? Do you think it should be moved to Saturday? No, that's college day. Yeah.

Was there college games on Saturday? That's over. Look, man, I like my Saturdays. Right.

Don't mess them up. Date night Friday, Saturday is like maybe a makeup date night, and then Sunday is, you know, God's Day and football. Football is one day a year, it's not like every weekend they're playing the Super Bowl. No, no, leave it the way it is.

Yeah, Palmer, stop trying to change stuff. Yeah, I'm not changing it, I'm just curious why it was on Sunday. Don't mess with my pots and pans. How's that sound?

You're pretty, you're pretty determined though to know the answer from us. Yeah, you, I mean, you're eager to get it moved to Saturday so you can not watch it on Saturday. No, I don't care what day it's on. It could be on Tuesday, as far as I care, I'm still not watching it.

Did it mess up the figure skating Olympics for you? No, I haven't watched the Olympics either. What about the swimming? Just read the highlights when I'm looking for stuff to talk about on here.

Did you see Lindsey Vonn go down? Yes. I did see that in a replay. Oh.

Yeah. 13 seconds in, she snaps her leg. Oof. Yeah, she hooked the flag or whatever with her arm and spun her.

Jeez. Yeah. Had to airlift her in a helicopter? They did.

Yeah. That guy looked like he was having a good time. Helicopter guy? Helicopter guy.

Hey, I get to rescue somebody. He's just hanging in the air. " Yeah. The camera's on me.

Wait, we're gonna ride the helicopter? Right. Some figure skater did some backwards flip that's illegal, but he did it anyway. Oh, yeah, that's the boy.

Yeah, it was a man, I said, that's the guy. The boy? Well, yeah, he's only like 19 or something like that. He's pretty good.

" Yeah. Really? Yeah. And he did it successfully, too, so I guess he got disqualified.

I don't know how that works. He got DQ'd? I don't know. I didn't see the outcome just so that it happened.

" Well, I mean, the girl, 13 seconds in, she snapped her leg. Yeah, that was an accident. Oh, he did it on purpose. He accidentally tripped and backflipped into this amazing move.

" Right, yeah. Well, she was skating with a knee brace, she just had knee surgery. Yeah. I mean, that's incredible.

Yeah, because she's been training for years before this, so... Yeah, she's 41 years old. Yeah, she would have been, if she would have medaled, she would have been the oldest gold medalist in history. Damn it.

For America. Tom Brady's gonna break that shit in two years anyways. Flag football? Yes.

Let's go. Alright, the National Anthem with Charlie Punham. Everybody's talking about that, because if it was emotional enough. Oh, did you feel that it was emotional?

Normally, I guess when they sing it, they put more emotion into it. He just sort of straight sang it. Yeah, I mean, to me, not only did he straight sing it, but he was under the normal average of the length of time. Here goes again, Vegas just screwing everybody.

No long crescendos, you're damn right Vegas is involved in that. Right. Because, you know, every time it's over, every single time it's over. And he was Rockets red glare, we're out of here.

Right, it was very fast. Yeah, he backed it in. I need to get my five mil. It was the shortest video I had to watch this morning.

I mean, it's perfectly acceptable for him. It doesn't directly affect the game. Right. Hey, yo, this is what we need from you.

Right. We need you to sing fast. And we need you to get it under two minutes, okay? Right.

And you notice how they showed the Gatorade color at the end? Yellow? Yeah. Of course.

It's like, well, normally you don't see it until it's on the coach. And you're like, oh, but they showed it. Did they? Must have been everybody.

Everybody must have been on blue. Oh. Damn it. Everybody's been on blue.

Everybody knows you bet on black. Someone switched the Gatorade. Right. They gotta know beforehand.

Somebody's gotta know what the Gatorade color is beforehand. Yeah, I'm sure. The guy that brings the packet. Yeah.

The guy that brings the packet. We gotta get that guy on the take. Yeah. I mean, there's a couple easy things that we could do here to make a ton of money.

Yeah. Right? For one, the streaker. Oh, yeah.

Was there a streaker? Yes. Was it the same guy as last time, bet all the money on the streaker, then he streaks or he'd get the money? I'm willing to bet that this man had something on the line because you don't spend the money to go to the Super Bowl to get to the 50-yard line to jump out and run for fun.

Right. It was probably like the dildo guys. That's probably the same one. Yeah.

The guys are throwing it on the court. Like, come on, bro. Guess the color. Right.

I'm going to bet blue. All sorts of things depending. Yep. Do they always have a camera in the flyover planes?

Or was that a new thing last night? They showed the pilots of the bomber. In the military? Yeah, they have cameras in the military planes, is that what you're saying?

Yeah, I think they've done that before. Do they? I said I don't watch, but I did see that. I'm not positive, but I think they've done that before.

I thought that was neat. Okay. Alright, what did you guys think of the halftime show? I thought it was great.

Yeah. Big Bunny, Angry Bunny, whatever his name was. Bad Bunny? Bad Bunny.

Yeah. I had no idea what he was saying, but I thought it was neat. I liked it. Oh, so you watched it.

I told you, I watched all these things. Yeah. Yeah. But you didn't watch the show.

Well, I fast-forwarded through the halftime show. It was 13 minutes, so I made sure I saw everybody who sang. Right. But I didn't watch it start to finish.

Yeah, I thought it was good. I had no argument with it. I know. I mean, could they have put words at the bottom so we knew what he was saying?

I mean, you could do that. Oh, you wanted the subtitles? Yeah. I had to see what he was singing about?

I have no idea. I mean, I enjoyed the show. It would be nice to know what he was saying. Oh.

Okay. Okay, you know, I thought it was good. To be honest with you, he's singing like number one hits in the past two years. Well, he's one of the biggest artists.

He's supposed to be bigger than the blonde girl. Lady Gaga? Worldwide? No, no.

Carrie Underwood. No. Taylor. Yeah, Taylor Swift.

Oh, the blonde girl. She's on your team, Palmer. Yeah, dude. I mean, I don't remember her name.

There were some bad calls in that play, in that game. Oh, yeah. It was crazy that there was only the first penalty was like, what, third quarter? We're not into the game yet.

Everybody relax. Oh, okay. You guys can talk about the bad. I knew there was going to be bad places.

Always bad. The bad bunny was good. Yeah, I thought that the halftime show was fine. Did you watch any of the alternate halftime show at all?

No, I'm not getting up and changing the channel. Yeah, me either. Do you not have a remote? I'm not moving.

I'm a thumb princess. I'm not doing it. Yeah. This thing stays intact.

Right. You know? You couldn't have yelled at one of the children? I mean, I didn't change the channel.

No, there's no, I'm not going, no, I'm not doing it. However, I do like the fact that there is like a, like a counter, you know, whether it's political or not. I think that there should always be like another option, an option. Yeah, like, so if you chose to, yeah, if I wanted to watch the other artists, I could, you know, I think that that's fine.

Run it up against them at all times. I think I got good enough ratings. We'll probably do it again. Really?

Yeah, I think that that that's good. Yeah, that's good. But I don't, you know, like, I don't want the politics in it, I just want, I just want other artist options, you know, the off halftime show to be on the table. Yeah, I mean, first of all, the Super Bowl halftime show is for an artist that is usually, you know, a big time artist, right?

And that's some more exposure for himself. I think having the other show is kind of like, man, he kind of like watered this guy down. Like everybody did. Well, that's the strategy.

Yeah. That's the whole intention of that, is to take away from the views. That's why they do it. It was messed up.

Of course. Yeah. You gotta love that. It's a good strategy.

All eyes are pinned at this. How do we get some of those eyes? Like, that's marketing. Maybe they should have done all white people on the alternate one.

I didn't watch all white people? Was it all white people? It was. It was like Kid Rock, Jelly Roll, some country girl.

Yeah. I don't remember who it was. Yeah, and there was another white guy. Taylor Swift?

No, it wasn't Taylor Swift. The blonde? The blonde? The brunette?

The redhead? No. So you watched both? No, I didn't.

I just saw it on Facebook. I saw the lineup, the four lineup. That was it. I strategically made it so that both sides hate me after saying that.

All the things I just said, just for the record, you have offended both sides. Good. Congratulations. I've upset everyone at this point, but I thought the halftime performance was great.

I thought the Bad Bunny thing, I thought it was good. I enjoyed it. See, all those trees were people? Yeah, I saw on Barstools, they all kind of came waddling out.

That was pretty smart. How do you get something done fast? Put people in trees. You know, let's just make them all people.

What else? What's your favorite halftime show so far out of all the years that you've seen? - The one with Dre was in it. - Who?

- Dr. Dre. - So that was just a few years ago. - Yeah, that wasn't, I mean, I saw that one.

- Okay. - Dre, really? Okay. - That was a big deal.

All right. All right, commercials. What about you? What was your favorite halftime show?

- I don't watch it every year, so I can't tell you. I mean... - This is the first halftime show you've ever seen? - No, he said he watched the Dr.

Dre one. - I watched the Dr. Dre one, too. - Okay.

- Other than that, I can't think of one. - So, okay, so... - Did you see Shakira? - Did Justin Timberlake, because they showed What's Her Name's Boob?

I don't know. That's a fair statement. I'm not going to lie. If you say that, I'm okay with that.

No, that wasn't it. I don't... They showed a clip of one. I can't remember who the guy was.

It was a country singer. Chris Tableton? He didn't do halftime. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't remember who it was. They showed one this morning as a... When I found this one on YouTube, they showed a country western as a equivalent or a compare or something.

I don't remember who it was, though. Might have been Travis Tritt. Travis Tritt might have been. Dang, you're talking about old.

Yeah, that was old. It was old. Not a lot of special effects in that one. Was that Super Bowl II?

Might have been. Might have been. I mean, there have been a lot of stars that have done halftime shows. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a big deal to get asked. Yeah. I think the Prince one is probably the best one. Oh, yeah.

Mm-hmm. Okay. Well, go ahead and continue now. All right.

With whatever the commercials. Now we talk about the commercials. Because you watched those. No, well, I watched them this morning, I didn't, how could I flip over and not watch the show, but just watch the commercials?

" Change it, oh, oh, change it! The top 10 funniest ones I didn't think were that funny, the ones, but that's just somebody's choice, though. Okay. So, I like the William Shatner one.

I didn't see it. It was for Raisin Bran, but he called himself William Shat, because it was all about fiber. Ah. " It's very, that's good.

Okay. The tight end commercial was the best one. That was funny, too. Yeah, I saw that one this morning.

The Kendall Kardashian one was funny. Did you see that one? I feel like I missed that one, too. It was for a betting app, and there's a Kardashian curse, because every player that she has ever dated, he's lost.

Oh, really? " Right. This airplane was boyfriend number three. And somebody asked her if she's been in somebody else.

" Got it. It's funny. And then she goes, "It's a Kardashian-Kurch. " Wow.

And she's Jenner. Right. Right. Wow.

I thought that one was funny. Making fun of herself. I like the self-deprecating ones. Right.

Right. The one with, oh crap, I can't think of his name. Ben Affleck? No, that one actually was okay.

Yeah, I think that was my favorite one. That one wasn't bad at all. But I thought they're gonna, did they, were they gonna show the video on the tape? Did that happen later in the game?

No. Okay. So I don't know how that happened then. I feel like I didn't see any of these commercials.

You didn't see the Dunkin' Donuts one with Ben Affleck? No. It had everybody in it. No, I didn't, I don't know what to tell you.

I was there, I watched two. Did you not watch commercials? I don't know. Is that when you got up to go get snacks and...

Maybe. Feeding time. I don't know. It was feeding time.

I can't think of his name. Oh, well, not important. I guess not. The Budweiser commercial was pretty good?

Eh, it was okay. You didn't like it with the eagle? Oh, the eagle one. I like that one.

I thought you meant the Bud Light one where they all rolled down the hill. No. The eagle one. Peyton Manning was in it.

With the baby horse? Yeah, that one was nice. I like that one. Yeah.

The Lay's one. The Lay's potato chip one? Oh, that was cool the way they did it? Yeah.

But eh. She was somebody famous. Who's the blonde? On what commercial?

The Pringles. Oh, that was, that was, I did, I was talking about the Lay's potato chip. Oh, I was thinking Pringles when you said Lay's. The Pringles, they come in a tube.

Right, but they, she built the Pringles' boyfriend. Yeah. I have no idea. But the Lay's one was like a, you know, passed down a generation to generation, potatoes, and that's what Lay's does.

Oh, I didn't see that. Yeah, it was lovely. Ben Stiller, that's the one I think of, that one was terrible. Yeah.

Shout out like an old-timey commercial? Yeah. Yeah, that one was stupid. All right.

I didn't like that one at all. They said that, you notice how there was a lot of Lay's commercials? Yeah. They said, well, my source.

Okay. I'm not sure how reliable, but he has not been wrong before, right? Okay. When he's told me things.

Robbie Doyle. You know, I just knew where he was going. Yeah. So, he said that- He's definitely been wrong before.

But anyways, continue. So, he said that he knows like a couple of the people that own farms, He said that they're losing a lot of money, so that's why they're advertising a lot. What do you mean they're losing a lot of money? Because he said that there was some type of statistic from Lays that people that are no Zimpik, 16% of them never touch a potato chip again.

I'm like, wait a second, how long has this study been going on for? Because I feel like a Zimpik's only been around for a little bit. So people are eating healthier, so we're like, wow, this is a big problem. Well, this is a big problem.

Lazy one. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody's eating our carbs.

Right. Really need to advertise. Yeah. Okay.

Well, they got to eat them on Mondays. That's carb day. Yeah. And now it comes in a pill.

That commercial was on the Super Bowl. I don't know how effective that's going to be in a pill. I'd like to find out though. Would you?

Yeah. You would take it? Yeah. If it was good, but I need at least like 10 years.

You wouldn't do the shot? Yeah, why don't you just do the shot? No, I'm good. That's pretty good.

Why wouldn't you do the shot? Because I don't like shots. Well, get your wife to give it to you. I don't like shots.

It doesn't matter who's giving it to me. I don't think anybody likes shots. And nobody enjoys it. Yeah, so I rather take the pill.

Nobody's like, hey, I'm looking forward to the shot. Right. Hey, there's a shot here or there's a pill here? Which one do you want?

Right. Alice in Wonderland's going with the pill. What if the shot's got to be faster? The shot's got to be more effective.

I don't know. Because, you know, it doesn't have to dilute through your digestive system. Correct. See, look, he's a doctor.

And he's just old. He did it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not doing a shot.

Okay. She gives herself a B vitamin shot in the stomach every Saturday or whatever, however often it is. Dear God. Okay.

Dear God. Alright, so moving on. What else you got? Alright, now you guys talk about the game.

Oh, wow. What do you want to say about the game? There's no point? Like, you have no points over there?

No, I didn't want to watch the game to get points. What do you want to say about the game? The Pats look terrible. I mean, look, let's be honest.

Okay, let's be honest. I do like the Pats. And I really was ruined for him to win. Even though I'm a Dolphin fan.

But really, it probably should have been Denver. If Bo is healthy, I don't think the Patriots would have got past him. Look, man, I don't think that's the case. I think that, you know, I think a lot of mistakes were made.

O-line mistakes were made. Quarterback mistakes were made. Receiver mistakes were made. That was the biggest one.

Like, there was a ton of, you know, you couldn't overcome those because they, everything went wrong for them. So, defense looked good. Yeah, defense, Gonzalez, he played a really good game. Dude, wild.

Yeah. Pay that guy. Right. I mean, and what's really crazy is like, you know, you got some good receivers on that team, man, and those guys just weren't catching the ball.

Like, I don't know what Hunter Henry was doing. Well, they were throwing, he was throwing it too fast. You think so? Yeah, they weren't getting to their spots.

So, the timing was off. Yeah. But, like, here's the part that drives me wild, or drives me mad, right? I don't understand how the commentators flat out say, and this wouldn't have changed the outcome of the game, so that's not what I'm saying.

The commentators make a blatant statement of, hey, that D was, the defense was offsides, right? And the refs didn't see it, and they didn't call it, right? Oh, yeah. I don't know how that's missed.

Oh, I mean, even like when the guy punched the Patriot guy. I don't know how that's missed. I mean, it wasn't missed. It was all over the TV.

Well, you throw a flag. Well, that was why they couldn't do anything, because there was never initially a flag thrown. So here and again, you're at the top of this sport, at the highest level, and you guys still can't get this right? Right, and these are the best referees.

There was an offsides that was blatant for me. I backed it up to show everybody. I'm like, that's offsides. I'm like, what do you mean?

I said, here, let me show you. Backed it up. You know, the right guard's going to move before the ball got snapped, and he takes three steps back. He does that doo-doo-doo thing, which I can't stand.

But he got to jump on it, right? Right. Oh, you mean a false start. Yeah, I'm sorry.

False start. Right. So I'm like, and there's no flag. No, yeah.

Yeah, no, there was definitely a lot of calls missed. And the craziest one was that when the guy punched the Patriot dude. I'm like, that is a immediate ejection. Right.

Like, it's not even a question. How about the guy shoved Diggs on the outside when he was out of bounds? Yeah, there should have been at least two ejections. Right.

And there should have definitely been a penalty, because if they would have got that penalty, then they would have got another first down, and you would have had another four downs to play, you know. Right. But that didn't happen, they had to punt right after that. Do you think that the NFL did not want to see New England win?

Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Could have been a script. Should I get my tinfoil hat out? I mean, there was a lot of bets on Patriots to win.

Were there? Oh, yeah. I mean, that was Drake's bet on the Patriots' money line. Really?

5. Wow. Right. Well, outright.

Oh, wow. Outright, yeah. Okay. And there's some guy that's, I don't know his name, but I guess he's like one of the biggest gamblers there is.

Robbie Doyle again. No, not Robbie Doyle. No, not Robbie Doyle. But he put more than that on Patriots.

Yeah, Moneyline. So, yeah, that's not happened. Look. Right.

Yeah, it could have been better. I mean, this is Drake May's second year, right? He's gonna come back. Yeah.

Yeah, he's a good quarterback. You know, it's just, this is, he's on a big stage, man, as a second year quarterback. What is he, 22? And, and what's the one lineman that just got mulled down?

Oh. Will Anderson or something like that? Yeah. The entire game?

That was a rookie, right? Yeah. Right? Right.

Rookie. How was your book? I loved that TV show. I watched an episode of that last night, actually.

How was your book? I didn't read a book. The one that you read while we were talking. Oh, it was very nice.

Yeah? I actually had a snack. Oh, good. Alright, so...

One more thing, one more thing. Kenneth Walker played a hell of a game. The running back for Seattle? Wow!

That dude can run. Who was MVP? Kenneth Walker. Was he?

Okay, I thought I saw there was a quarterback who was MVP. Is that who that guy is? No, he talked afterwards because they wanted to hear from the quarterback of the winning side. Oh.

Yeah, the ginger. They had a unicorn. It does make me happy though that the Jets starting Q is now a Super Bowl champ. Oh, I saw that too.

Yeah, he's played on other teams, but now he's in the Super Bowl. Yeah. There was actually a kid, he's one of the defensive ends for Seattle. He played for Mainland High School in Daytona.

He's been in Daytona. Oh, really? Yeah. No kidding.

Yeah. That's cool. I wonder if he's available. You should reach out to him, Butch.

I don't know. Well, maybe. I've asked some people that went there. Hey, you want to come on the Cigar Hustles podcast?

That would be awesome, man. Want to go on the most famous cigar podcast? That's how you do it. Yeah.

Okay. All right, let's go. " Oh, I love Coop. No, that's not that one either.

I love Cigar Authority. Cigar Authority. Alright, 36 Assassin Dolphins are missing in the Gulf of Mexico. Okay.

Wait a second, you didn't watch the Super Bowl, but you're gonna talk about this. Have you heard, wait a second, so like, before you even get into, so like, the Navy has created these dolphins. Yes. That when they, if someone goes into a specific water, they jam you, they like headbutt you and kill you.

No, apparently they have dart guns mounted on them. What? No, they do not. That's even better.

That's what it says. Military Dolphins are real, but the details are disputed. Those are disputed. The United States Navy has openly acknowledged training dolphins for decades to detect mines, guard ships, and identify underwater threats, but it denies claims that they are armed dolphins, but they are missing 36 dolphins in the Gulf of Mexico.

That's awesome. 36 experts investigated, alleged that up to 36 trained bottlenose dolphins escaped during a storm from a coastal facility was breached, potentially carrying equipment like marker devices are more controversial. Toxic Dirt Mechanism. Oh, they said this, oh, so they admitted it.

Yes. Okay. S. Marine Fisheries confirmed dolphins escaped while the Navy insists no dolphins were there.

What dolphins? Revision 36 dolphins. There's no dolphins. What dolphins?

What dolphins? There's no dolphins there at all. Dolphin Assassins. That sounds like a, it could be a Disney movie, like a Pixar?

I don't know. Dolphin Assassins? " And then they run around in the ocean, protecting it, like saving it from evil other animals. Great, Free Willy 20, coming soon, you know?

Oh, Free Willy, but it's written in blood. Oh, yeah, it is. The Revenge. The Revenge.

So they've been trained for attack, detection, and recovery missions since the Cold War area, but there is no public proof that any dolphins were armed or hostile or even posed to threats to civilians. No lasers? Under the lasers? No, that's on the sharks.

Oh. Come on. We have trained sharks too? No, just dolphins.

I would love some trained sharks. Dolphins are easier to train. Yeah. Isn't that what was in Austin Powers?

Sharks with laser beams? Yeah, sharks with lasers. Correct. Yes.

Sharks with fricking laser beams on their head. All right, public service goes way too far. A Maryland paramedic busted for peeing on the job. Okay.

It's not that he peed, it's where he peed. Oh, can't wait to hear this. Must be another R. Kelly.

He's facing 23 criminal charges after investigators say he deliberately contaminated food, drinks, and workplace services with urine. Oh, he was angry. Wow. Some of it allegedly filmed while he was on duty and in uniform.

Wow. They have surveillance. Oh, this is a bad look. He's peeing everywhere.

Okay. So what happened? Without you reading it, tell me. Prosecutors claim the bodily fluids were left in places including a refrigerator.

Just tell me. And the chili, the coffee creamer, the ice machine, the orange juice, soap dispenser, somebody's chapstick. That's a lot of piss. Even a firehouse ice scoop.

Oh, he peed at the firehouse. Yes, he was on duty and got pissed off at somebody and just started peeing on everything. Wait, wait, I thought he said a bus driver. Oh, look, chapstick, here we go.

No, he's a paramedic. Oh. He's a paramedic. How did you pee a little bit and then hold it for that long to get like the creamer out?

Maybe he put a lot of water on shift and every time he had to pee, he went... Who knows? He pissed on everything. Pissed on everything.

Yeah, was he retiring? No, no, the picture, he was a, you know, 30-something year old guy he looked like. Yeah, he was angry. Was it a Deltona firefighter?

No, it was Maryland. Maryland. Oh. He doesn't listen.

No, I didn't. So, authorities allege he recorded and distributed the acts online attempting to profit by selling the videos on subscription platforms. Oh, look at the man. He's just doing it to make money.

Don't you read this beforehand? But we talked about this, that you're going to read it beforehand so we could have a normal conversation. I read part of it. I didn't read that part.

But like, now you've rattled off 30 minutes of stuff and we haven't had like our back and forth normal conversation that we've been doing. Because you guys aren't talking. We've been talking the whole goddamn time. It's just about sports.

You didn't talk about the Dolphins hardly at all, except you went lasers. You did impersonations. Dude. I read the Dolphins story.

Okay. Are you mad because there was football yesterday? Yeah. What's his problem?

That was easy. Football ate up 30 minutes worth of stuff. Like, hey, this, you know, I even complimented him on the last show. I said, man, you did a great job, the way that you handled it, like the whole back and forth.

Right. The way that the conversation just kind of flowed. And he's like, thanks so much, I'm going to go back to reading the fucking teleprompter. Yeah, I told him how nice his shirt was when I came down with you, he didn't say anything.

I didn't even hear you say anything about the shirt. Wow, and he's deaf. All these nice things. It's like I'm talking to my kid, I can compliment him on something like, perfect, now I'm going to go mess this up, I'm going to go bash the hell out of this.

Unbelievable. Right? So, did you read the next article, or no? No, we're getting into cigar news.

Oh, we're just right along here, Terrence. Well, I mean, if you guys don't want to talk about the guy peeing on stuff anymore. That was the last story, because the football ate up so much. Oh, I mean, if we had the ability to have, like, a conversation with you.

What would you like to know, Michael? Well, that's it, I guess, because you just read it out loud. I'm going to be honest. Palmer, I said nothing bad about you, so if you decide to pee on everything here, I don't want to be any of my stuff.

Leave the mask alone. I peed on your microphone, I'm sorry. Oh. Don't ring that foam cover out.

Okay. Just stay away from that as far as possible. All right, we'll get into the cigar news. All right, a major leadership change has happened at Cigar Retail.

Uh-oh. Sarah Santos, VP of Online Retail for SGT, is now in charge of Cigars International. Uh-oh. So, she's in the organization, but she moved to retail.

Correct. Well, she was in charge of, uh, she was, hold on, she was in charge of online retail for Scandinavian Tobacco. And now she's in charge of Cigars International. Okay.

So, I don't know if this is considered a lateral move? I don't know either. I mean, were they not happy with whoever was running it before? I think the guy quit or something.

It was an opening created and they had to fill it. They fueled the growth. Wasn't likely. Yeah.

Growth was fueled. You know, Justin Andrews did say he didn't start answering on Mondays. He did start talking. He did talk about that he was happy with the halftime show.

I don't know why I can't talk today now. today now yeah yeah something's going on the guy currently had the job retired after 20 years okay so he left created an opening they move this uh lady into it she looks rather young too from the photo she's been there since 2003 okay she's been there for 22 years so she's at least in her 40s well she looks good for her 40s okay all right well that's exciting All right, what else you got? There's nothing else from that, I mean. Oh, he's getting, look at it, look at how angry he is.

No, I got to fast forward through the information, you guys don't want to talk about this either. Okay, Justin Andrews, great job. You guys see the video that Jonathan Drew did last week? No, but this is interesting, because he did say, I saw the video of, hey, stay tuned for this.

It's going to be a major announcement tomorrow, actually. Okay. Oh, it hasn't happened yet. No, it's on the 10th.

Okay. Yeah, so that's interesting. So what do you think he's going to say? I don't know.

He was smoking an Opus X in the conversation, which was weird. Oh, I didn't even notice that. Yeah, of course I know. I pay attention to that.

I'm like, boom. We're in California now. I hang out with a retired Drew Estate employee on Friday night. He thinks maybe Jonathan is stepping down.

And that's why he's making the announcement? Yeah, he's gonna move into more of the liquor end of it, and less of the cigars. Is he still doing the liquor? Uh, yeah, but it's not as forward as it was before, so he's still dabbling.

Right. But they think he's gonna move into that. Completely. Right.

Interesting. And then maybe bring Pedro up. Is the head guy. Yeah.

This show is gonna be bananas. Right, exactly. That's sort of what I said when the guy told me. I go, I know him and that kind of stuff, but is he in, like, the business?

Is he already running out of the car? Yeah, yeah. Is he? Well, he's originally from Nicaragua, right?

Yeah. Well, and there's one other guy who still lives in Nicaragua, because Pedro doesn't live in Nicaragua. There's still another guy that actually lives down there full time. Yeah, I thought it was weird that he was smoking an Opus.

Like, if I got to make an announcement, unless he's buying Fuente, you know? Wow. You know, we have mentioned before that Fuente really has no way to turn the company over to him. You know.

You know, the daughter, but. Because, like. He's bringing his son in, but the son's like, I don't want to. Why wouldn't you be smoking a Liga?

Yeah, you would think. If I had an important house. At least something of yours. Yeah, I'd be smoking a Postana.

You know? Yeah. Unless it's that. I mean, that would be crazy.

Swisher has acquired Fuente? I don't know. That sounds like a lot. But I mean, here's what's interesting.

You think they could buy them? Yeah. Well, Swisher could, yeah. Yeah.

Um, I don't know, I'm just, I'm shooting this out of left field, dude, I have no idea, but, you know. It's all speculation. Realistically, if you're worried about any type of turmoil, and you want to hedge your bet, like they already started kind of making cigars in the Dominican, why not go and acquire the big dog in the Dominican Republic? The factory, yeah.

I mean, he was smoking an Opus. I don't know. He's got a man bun now, too. Yeah.

You like that? No. You don't find that? No, I don't like the man bun.

He probably got it in Macau when he was in Macau. Oh, yeah. In Macau, making sandwiches. Yeah.

I'm gonna buy a company. Yeah. So the current speculation is he could be stepping down. Correct.

Correct. That's a rumor started by a retired employee. Or, or there's a possible merger. That's my guess.

Merger or an outright purchase? Acquisition. Yeah. What would STG have to, or not STG, it's Swisher.

What would they have to pay to acquire? A ton of money. Yeah, you'd think so, huh? That would be, yeah.

You know, we've got a bunch of Cameroon we're gonna use now. I hear they're looking for Cameroon rappers. I don't know man that's what I would guess hmm why smoke the opus yeah I mean everybody probably didn't catch it I did well I know you did you know but I mean the couple people I've spoken to nobody mentioned that at all you guys get caught up in his eyes you're locked glasses are very distracting you get locked in I'm like oh glasses and the man bun were very distracting. That's odd.

I was from here up. Apparently, I should have been from here down. Right. Right.

I mean, he's not a big cigar smoker. No, you don't see him smoking often. Right. PCA's and stuff, I don't think I've ever seen him smoking.

So the first thing I'm saying, I'm like, whoa, a guy's smoking a cigar. Like, what's going on with that? And then I'm like, what? What is that?

I'm like, an Opus. Why are we having an Opus? Why are we having an Opus? And he's going to drop it right before PCA?

The news? Like several months, but yeah. Now Drew would say it's going to own half of the floor at PCA. When is PCA?

It's in April. Yeah, but like April what? I don't know off the top of my head because Charlie's not posting it on his stories and just being over the head. Yeah, Charlie, we need you.

I need you to put it on every single story, Charlie, so I read it over and over and over. Come on, Half Wheel. Come on, Half Wheel. Okay.

They've, um... There's been stories that, oh no, you verified that one was on there, but it was just later. All right, Avowed that we talked about last week. So what about last week?

About? Yes. Coming out with another new cigar. They are?

Yes. They are on the program where you send several little press releases instead of one big one. Smart. Yes.

It seems to be working for people. Multiple marketing. They are making an anniversary cigar. Oh.

For their one year anniversary. So they're just starting right at the beginning, one year, another cigar. Eventually it'll be like Room 101, every year there'll be an anniversary cigar. I think that's smart.

I think that's smart. That's smart, you know, uh, that's the one that's on our, on my radar of Alton. Yeah, it's what you had mentioned the other day. Uh, this one is called The Hallowed Hands.

The Hallowed Hands. It's gonna be a regular production Coraline item. Okay, but they're making, releasing it in honor of their first year. Yes.

So I guess next year it's not an anniversary cigar, it's just, they're gonna be there. Right. Right. It's just there now.

It's an Ecuadorian Corojo wrapper in the company's first box press. Let's see, um, oh, they don't mention anything else. That's it? Not size, not nothing.

Not box count? Well, they say they originally blended it to be Corona Gorda, but then they have Robusto in parentheses, so a little confusing. It's coming out on the 13th. Have you ever had a, you said Corojo, right?

Yeah. A Corojo box press? I don't think I've ever seen one. - You sure?

- Maybe I'm wrong. - I would say you're wrong. - I'd say you're wrong, too. - Yeah, there's a lot of them.

- Oh, is that the... - It's a regular used tobacco. - No, that's San Andreas. - Well, but for one, Tatuaje uses a lot of Corojo, and Ceniza Fina uses Corojo.

- They have a whole line called the Corojo line. - Yeah. - You had any of those? - Not the box press one.

okay hey uh was it since afina anywhere in santa clara because they're like big uh 49 fans right are we talking about san francisco yeah we're talking about san francisco right santa clara you said santa clara i'm sorry i don't know why i said santa clara i don't know either in san francisco i don't think they were there i said san francisco before though right they're in arizona i don't know I don't know what's going on today. What's going on today? Geez Louise. That mask must be too tight.

Oh, have you red-lined it? Are you okay over there? No, I had to wake up extra early to work this morning, so I don't normally do that. Oh, that was Super Bowl Sunday.

No, if you wake up extra early, he means 8 o'clock. You're fatigued. Yeah, I am fatigued. m.

Terrible. Usually 10. I didn't get deep in my Pop-Tart. The song came up.

I like how Opus X calls him the older gentleman when they refer to him, because of his voice is so deep. Opus X? No, Opus Clips, sorry. Opus Clips refers to him as he- Holy moly, guys.

This is what I'm saying. There's something going on in there. Something going on. Is there a leak in this room or something?

You want to know what it is? Is that, you know, you guys hung out late, and that's not what you're used to, and now here you are. I didn't hang out with Palmer. Yeah, we didn't hang out late for Super Bowl.

I didn't watch the Super Bowl. I watched the Super Bowl. What time did you go to bed? Uh, well, I tell them, my wife is house-sitting, so it was 11, but I fell asleep in the chair twice, so.

Okay, so you were, so you were up late. I'm normally up till 11 and falling asleep in the chair and then wake up for a few more minutes, watch something and then fall asleep again. He was practicing for today. He was running around his house peeing on everything.

Yeah, that's right. So she gets home. Ha ha, leave me alone. Don't look at the footage from the ring cameras.

Hey, use that toothbrush. Why don't you use that toothbrush? I got you a new one. Dear God.

She took the other one with her, so. Don't eat the chili. Don't eat the chili. Oh, God.

All right, Supreme Leaf Toro 109 is shipping, they're calling it 109 because it's the 109th time they've used the term Supreme Leaf. It's a 109 Bellicoso. Is that what it is? Why is it 109?

Because it's slightly rounded, it's not sharp. Oh, 109 is a size? Yes. We've had this conversation several times.

Did you not watch the Terrence Riley clip? Do you not live any of this? No. I mean...

No. But this is a Toro. Today's just a rough day. It's definitely Monday.

It's a 109. It's a Toro size with a rounded top. I thought you just said the different size. It's actually a slightly smaller gauge, right?

It's usually like a 50 or 48-ish. Yeah, this is a real size. It's a 109. Yeah, this isn't like a made-up size.

That's all I'm going to do. Well, it's going to be released tomorrow. Okay. Are we getting it?

I would assume so. Oh. It's a 109 style cap is what you meant. Correct.

Oh, I gotcha. Mm-hmm. It's a hybrid Parejo and Bellicoso. Okay.

It's a 6x52. Okay. There you go. So, 52 is a little big, but okay.

Yeah. All right. It should be good. It should be a good cigar.

All right. Guess the price. Freedom of dollars, because it's an American company. Phil?

A Supreme Leaf? Yep. I think they're normally, what, like 16, 18? Somewhere around there?

I'll go 17. I'm going to say 18. 99. Yes.

Damn. Wow, they're, they're pretty cheap for. Affordable guys. The term is affordable.

Oh, affordable. Cheap sounds great because it sounds like everyone's going to buy them. Cheap doesn't sound great. It's cheap by today.

Less expensive. Cheap sounds like devalued. He's right. All right, now it's time for the industry's favorite game.

What's the score? My favorite part of the show because I can read from the teleprompter. Yeah. Dear God.

What's the difference between that and the last 45 minutes? Because you're not going to yell at me for reading it at the teleprompter. Yeah, you're right. Okay, this cigar is from April 19th, 2023, reviewed by Charlie Monado.

It's a Dominican Republic LFD. It is the Special Football Edition 2023. Okay, do I go first? You guys have the Super Bowl.

Oh, 84. I'm going to go 90 on this. Okay. 8 by 54 to Perfecto, and they smoked 3, their little footballs, they have little footballs on them, 84.

90. Alright, clue number one. It's nice to see a smaller ring gauge in a line that usually pushes 58 to 60 plus. The size feels more approachable, and compared to the 2016 version with the same dimension, the improvement is craftsmanship is noticeable.

The detail work looks sharper and more refined, showing how much the rollers have elevated their execution over time. We have gotten better at making the footballs. Dun dun dun. 84.

90. Okay. Clue number two. Construction is a clear strength overall.

Burn performance is solid, ash formation is impressive, and the draw remains consistent for most of the experience. While a couple of cigars needed Meyer touch-ups, the overall build quality stands out. The retrohale in particular adds complexity, layering earth, pepper, fruit, and mineral notes notes in a more intertwined way than the main profile. 85.

You want to up one? Yes. 90. I like when he thinks he has to go.

You ever notice that? He's got to rev it up. He's got to get it going. He's got to wake up the hamster in there.

Clue number three. The profile can lean dry at times, especially in the first and second And third, some flavors like damp earthiness and the stale bottled water note may not appear to everyone, and a few puffs develop a slight harsh edge. One cigar also had a burn issue in the final third, which slightly detracted from an otherwise strong construction showing. Staled bottled water.

It's very specific. Incredible. But can you picture the flavor, though? I can.

Yeah, I can, too. It's weird. His writing style is exactly this. Dude, that is wild.

Wild. That is incredible. Only would have been better if he went particular brand. Yeah, yeah.

Nestle. Right. Zephyr Hills staled bottles. What's the one nobody likes?

Sitting in the Dasani. Dasani. Dasani water. No, Charlie looks like a Dollar General water guy.

You don't know Charlie. Yeah? Yeah. He's a little bougie to me.

Well, if he's so bougie, why is his water stale? Well, because he picked it up thinking it was a new bottle. Because he got it in a pinch. It was in the backseat of the car and he was thirsty.

Yeah, you get in the car, you're like, boy, I'm thirsty and there's a bottle of water. Even if it's hot, you drink it. No, I take my Stanley everywhere. Yeah, you're just a better man than both of us.

You used to take the Stanley everywhere too. What are you talking about? I know, I just... But he puts peach tea in his.

Yeah, it's Mio. It's fruit punch Mio. Mikey put, oh, I like the fruit punch one. Yeah.

Yeah. I think I'm going to stick at 85. I don't even remember what he said, so I'll stay at 90. Stale water.

Oh, yeah. But you wouldn't know because a man of your stature, you've never tasted stale water. Yeah, you don't know how stale water tastes like. Right.

I bet his wife has. If this thing rates over at 90, he likes stale water. Yeah, because she's out grinding. Yeah, she's out working.

Man, Tia drinks like 20 bottles of water a day. Friday morning, she comes out with these armful of stuff, Putting stuff in her car. Yeah. He's still home asleep.

Yeah, he's still in bed. Right. m. I mean, it was 8:15, so.

Like, it's just beautiful. You didn't ask me if there was a video. I had one. Oh, I'm sorry.

It's so unorganized. You were yelling at me right then. I just went into the cigars. Just trying to get this over with.

Aww. I have a video, and I'm going to send it to you after this one. Between the two? Yeah.

Can we just do it at the end? No. So much easier to find that way. No.

Ah, my pain in the ass. I'm going to edit and put it at the end. That's going to be more time. Yeah, but it's easier to find.

Okay. Did he vote? Yeah, it said 90. On the stale water still?

Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, I can't say I've had a bad LFD Dominicana special football edition. It's a series I think of more for gimmicks and tie-ins than I do for taste of the cigars.

This release seems to be the mildest one I've smoked, and it's probably my favorite. Oh. There's a lot of flavors, not all great, that continue to change in minor ways, puff to puff, and in major ways, inch to inch. Stale water is my favorite.

The type of profile might not be what most people think of when they think of LFD. It's another example of the company's ability to produce a great medium-bodied and medium-strength cigar. The score is hurt slightly due to some construction issues in multiple cigars, But the flavor is as good as any in the series. Damn, apparently he likes stale water, stale bottled water, 87, 90, 89, Boots gets it, wow, by one, he gets it by one, God, this guy was describing, do you have a video?

You know what, I just so happen to have a video. Oh, excellent, let's watch the video. When you play it, don't play the audio. Don't play the audio.

What is that, bad words? No, it's just, it's got some background music. Oh. And uh, so when I put it in, make sure it doesn't have, diddly, diddly, diddly, diddly, diddly.

It's from uh, I think it's like a Mission Impossible thing. Oh. Hold on, I hate that the, there you go, it's great. More for Phil than it is for you.

He's saying no, don't. So is there... Don't. You don't need the audio to understand the video?

Yeah. Okay. There it is. Don't.

Point of view. Oh, I know this movie. Oh, I know this movie. Seattle's defense showing blitz in the fourth quarter.

I feel you needed audio. You don't. All right. He's getting hammered, dude.

Yeah. Well, Palmer didn't watch the... The game. Yeah.

There was this game last night. Oh. Yeah. It was a football game.

Football? It was the biggest one of the year. That's the one that's like the LFD cigar. Yeah.

Oh. Exactly. Gotcha. I got to tell you, this is...

It's a 109? Yeah, it's a 109. This is a year that I probably watched the least amount of football, and I think that it's a trend That's going to continue. I feel like every year I'm going to be watching less and less.

Watching less and less. Yeah. Yeah. To where you become a baseball fan?

No, I just think the quality of the product is really diminished. There's bad calls. There's just, yeah, I'm not about it. It seems, it's messy.

It's too messy. Well, there's always bad calls in any sport. Well, yeah, but I just, no, I totally understand that. But like blatant calls that we just talked about.

Yeah. That weren't called? Yeah. I mean, come on, man.

What are we doing? Like, you got to bring it somewhere. Give me that fine line. I don't need a penalty every play, because then it's not enjoyable.

Right. But, like, some blatant stuff should be called, especially in the Super Bowl. That's a technical foul. So, okay.

Next one. All right. May 31st, 2012. Charlie Minato also.

It's a CAO cigar from Nicaragua. Nicaragua, The CAO, Odisee. Phil? CAO?

We go... 82. 86. Country of Origin, Nicaragua, Factory, Tablicalera, Perdomo.

Ecuadoran, Rosado, Wrapper, Undisclosed, Binder, Habano. 50, this is not a Redux, but they only smoked one, $13 back in 2012, little man, put that in my hand, if that money doesn't show me, owe me, owe me a box of 10 for $135, fill, the cigar was released in 2000. Mmm. I just found it.

Box of 10. Yeah. Mmm. Palmer's trying to throw me off.

82. 85. Clue number one. Oh, you went down.

The Ecuadoran Rosado wrapper presents a rich, dark, leather hue that gives the cigar an attractive, mature look. Pre-light aromas offer aged leather, sweet cocoa, and much, oh, mocha note, sorry, creating a full and inviting introduction. Cold Draw adds another layer of interest with Fruity Citrus, Wheat, Coffee, Earth, and a touch of sweetness, delivering a smooth and flavorful start before ignition. Okay, well, he likes Fruity, 82.

85. I also forgot to mark the comments that I normally do. Oh. " Oh.

That's a whole 'nother patch. I can't get one to a patch. You can't get one on, you want two now? Uh, and then on, oh, that was actually on a couple episodes ago.

On the most recent episode, our dear friend Mark Palmer said, Have you ever heard of Gambler's Anonymous? Oh, is he directing that to me? I would assume so. I would assume what we do.

Oh, no. Okay, and then I have from our good friend Ben Roland. Ben! Who went and visited you.

Him and Sarah came Friday night. Yep. They made the trek. Gas station corndogs are fire.

You know, now wait. I got one at racetrack when I stopped to get gas. A corndog? I got a corndog.

It wasn't any good. It wasn't any good. I think it had been there too long. They need to put, you know, timers on them or something.

I could see that. I don't think I've had a corn dog since middle school or elementary. I love corn dogs, but this, the corn on the dog was not much bigger than the dog. You know, normally they're, you know, a little big on the size.

Yeah. Oh. No, it was just like a fine. How big was it?

Big enough boots. You would've liked it. Your hand was in the shot, too. Big enough to get it done.

Yeah, but we're not homophobes like you are. I don't know, it's just crazy, though. We're not homophobes. He's getting all excited.

No, I did not get excited. He's like, how much was it? How big was it? It was this big.

Yeah. It's huge. That's two inches. That big around.

Oh. Boots is just fill size. And he has no gag reflex. No, Palmer definitely has a gag reflex.

I do have a gag reflex, but you bite it off, though. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah.

On my Patriots clip that I made, I heard I got a from at Dreor. Go Hawks. What happened, bro? It's okay.

You can still take this down before too many people see it. I saw that. And no, I will not be taking it down. In fact, he just read it.

Go Hawks? Seahawks. Oh, Seahawks. Seahawks.

Why are they showing the name up? I don't know. It's like Atlanta Hawks. Less words to type.

Yeah. Maybe you can't spell C. He gets confused. Right.

Yeah. C-hyphen. S-E-E, or C-E, maybe like, you know, like it's Spanish. Uh, and this is the one I really wanted to get to.

Is C, well, hold on a sec. Is C in Spanish spelled how? I don't know, C-I, C-E-I, I don't know. I'm not Spanish.

It's S-I, but that was great. I was done too. Not homophobic and not Spanish, so. That's probably why you didn't watch the Bad Bunny halftime show.

@stevenwell6945, my final one for yesterday's episode, wrote, Boots Fills slash Steve slash the Jester, whatever his name is today, please have him stop using the name Money Makers. It is a great alliteration, but very misleading. It would be more accurate just to call him an astrophysicist. Wow.

Steven, I will use your story tomorrow. It wasn't appropriate for today's show. He sent me a story. Oh, okay.

Second person sent me the same story, so I have to use it. Gotcha. Okay. Did you pick your number?

Uh, 82. Did you pick a number? I go second. I know, but there's so much going on out of order, I don't know where we're...

Yeah, now I'm, uh, yeah. Now you got all your air time, you're happy? I think so. Okay, good.

Somebody's gotta carry this damn show today, other than you just reading off the screen. What did you just do? I read off the screen. There you go, exactly.

From a comments. And you messed up when you read it, so. How did I mess up? You said some of the things wrong.

You stuttered on a couple of things. What did I stutter on? I'm staying out of this one with you, too. Did I stutter, Phil?

Yeah, I'm dying this. Phil, what did I stutter on? Tell me. I didn't hear any stuttering.

Me neither. Yeah, but he's not confirming nor denying. I mean, you can tell me if there's something I missed and I messed up. I want to work on it to be better.

Why do I have to be the middle ground here? I'm okay with it because I respect your criticism. His is just bad. His is just mean.

Why did Ziggy just get out of a van and just pull the bicycle? Oh, he's locked his keys in his car. Oh. Okay.

All right. He said 82, I think. I don't even know. Is that what you said?

I said 82, he said 85. Did I stutter when I read off the comments? No. Thank you.

All right. Clue number two. Despite other shortcomings, the cigar does show some redeeming construction qualities. The dark ash forms well and holds consistently, and while construction overall is described as subpar, the draw remains consistently open and workable throughout the smoking experience.

Strength and body also maintain a steady medium to medium-full presence. Is there someone behind me? Yes. He's right there, isn't he?

He is. Is this the third clue? No. This is the final thought.

Second clue. This is the second clue. Dear God, we're only on the second clue. Pay attention.

Dear Jesus. 82. 85. God, this has been going on forever.

All right, third clue. What? I feel like this one's been going on forever. It has been.

Because he keeps stopping so he can get to his airtime. Yeah. Mikey, are you coaching any other teams or have you made your own league yet? I'm not going to make my own lead.

No. There will be another Preston episode tomorrow. There will be. After a promising start, the cigar steadily declines in complexity and clarity.

The first third quickly simplifies, and by the second third, the profile shifts to a generic, moist earth with pepper and cedar. Moist earth. The final third. Can you just say mud?

No. What a jerk. I think it's fine. Did it on purpose.

Can you hear that at all? Coop, stop, you better stop sabotaging us. Can you hear that? Yeah.

You can? I'm sure you can, right. All right, well, we'll have to stop real quick until it's fixed. I'm going to pause this.

Yeah, it's about 62. Oh, there you go. After a promising start, the cigar steadily declines in complexity and clarity. The first third quickly simplifies, and by the second third, the profile shifts to a generic moist earth with pepper and cedar.

He should have just said mud. Yeah, why didn't you just say mud? You didn't say mud. The final third worsens further with an entire flavor profile becoming indistinct and mushy, in parenthesis.

Lacking definition or engaging character, combined with weak smoke production and overall aging concerns, the experience ultimately trends downward from start to finish. That was the third clue. It's mushy with moist earth. 82.

84. Final thought, I heard a CAO radio spot the other day. The basic premise was simple, our cigars are just cooler. I don't think this is exactly a new read general, don't know what that means.

Way of thinking at CAO, this seemed like something that's been around for a while. Well, as far as the packaging goes, Odyssey is great, as far as the narrative goes, Odyssey had a decent story, and as far as the cigar, this was bad. I imagine this tasted a lot better a few years ago, there were plenty of signs of this, but at this point, CAO Odyssey is unfortunately unforgettable. Bill?

You know, this thing's probably gonna pelt like 89 or something, I bet. Okay. So, I'm going to go 87. Damn.

What did he say, 87? Yeah. I actually think that this cigar is going to do worse than the number I'm going to guess. Because he really likes stale water, maybe mushy earth.

No, here's what I'm going to tell you why. It was probably an underwhelming cigar when it came out. And ten years later, it lost that underwhelming flavor and probably tastes damn near next to nothing. When you can't even classify mud, you have to give it a moist earth profile.

And mushy. Yeah, and mushy, like he's saying things that aren't like clear, distinct flavors. Maybe he was like looking at a Betty Crocker box of brownies. Not specific at all.

Right. He's not, he's not. And we heard pale, we heard stale water, bottled water. Right.

So when he can, when, when he can be precise about something, I would at that point say that, okay, it's going to go higher than what I'm thinking. Right. And that's what happened on the last one. This one's going to go the other way.

And you just kind of opened a door for me because you just went up to So, I'm going to say 85 to protect myself that if it's an 86 it's a wash and if it's anything lower I win. No, you should just try to nail it. No. Do you want me to go lower?

I'll go lower. I'll go lower. I'll go lower. I can't say anything because it gives it away.

I'll go lower. 78. How's that? He said what?

87? Yes. Yeah. So, I mean, you could really go...

Okay, it's 70. 70? 70. Oh, so he won...

What were you thinking, Palmer? He won. No, no, I know, that's what I was gonna say, but I mean, he could... You were so high, he could go anywhere within 19 of 70 and still win.

Yeah, if I had picked... Well, if I had picked 86 or below, but I protected it, I went 85, and that would have been... That would have been, if you would have said 86, boom, right? But then if you wanted me to really base it off of my thoughts, I thought that it would have broken the 80 threshold, but I didn't think it would go all the way down to 70.

This just goes to show you, there is no method to this madness. And yet here I am explaining to you the method, and it worked! But he was at 70, you were probably thinking he was probably going to be like 77, 79, 80, Like somewhere around there. You thought it was going to be 70?

I felt that it was in the 70 range. I don't know, you know, maybe I wouldn't have got 70 on the dot. Stale water? He likes stale water, but he doesn't like the muddy earth.

Precise flavor. I think Mikey's right, because it had aged to the point where it has nothing left. Is it stale water, like stale inside of your house stale, or is it stale because you didn't change the filter? Regardless, it's a distinct flavor profile that he got from the cigar.

moist earth is extremely vague and not descriptive. So that shows you that even though he wrote this 13 years ago, 14 years ago. I feel like moist earth is pretty descriptive. No?

No, if he'd have said volcanic right? Volcanic earth volcanic dark earth that was wet Like, something like that, that would have been more, he just said, "moister". He said, "generic". Generic, to add to it.

Hmm. Right? And also just, so, I listened to what the description was, and then I did my own analysis, and, like... You know, and the entire flavor profile becomes indistinct and mushy.

Right. Lacking definition. So, yeah, he was getting nothing. Hmm.

You're just mad that Stephen Wells called you an astrophysicist. You're an astrophysicist. And that's a compliment. No, I didn't.

I wasn't mad 'cause that. This was a very long... So many words. What's the score?

So I wore you down. Yeah, the second one was very long. When did CAO have radio ads? You know, I don't know.

Think about that. 2012. You know, more importantly, now I know how to really discourage him. I'm just gonna throw some stuff in, in the half-wheel description, and like, lose his train of thought.

Does that sound like a gunshot? No, Greg just dropped his wallet upstairs. Oh! He's at home dying.

Oh, he's dying again, huh? Anything else to add? That's it. On February 25th, I will be at North Port Cigars at one o'clock for a little afternoon event.

Bang! Okay. And I will be here. And I'll be at home sleeping.

Not up yet at one o'clock, of course. Yeah. All right, guys, this is episode 465 of the Cigar Officer Podcast, and just for those of you who are curious, he's still locked out of his car. And like, and subscribe, and thanks for watching.

All right, bye. Bye. Goodbye.

Show Notes

On Todays show we are all the superbowl info….then the navy lost a secret weapon!  A Maryland paramedic went all in! In cigar news we have a new portal entry!  A new cigar and Terance really turns 109….then we end the show with a big what’s the score!