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ACHP 540 Gold, Cigars amd Felonies

ACHP 540 Gold, Cigars amd Felonies

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21 action.

Welcome to Cigars or podcast

episode 540.

You guys realize in 60 weeks we

will hit 600?

In 60 days. 60 days I meant.

I meant 60 days.

Yeah, 60 weeks will be at like.

7000 Yeah, I'm Mike Palmer, your

host, and my constant

mispronunciations are proof that

I am not AI.

Oh.

And in engineering today we have

Phil.

I don't know anything about any

loose monkeys in Mcguffey.

Hello peoples.

Nothing about loose monkeys.

You have to wait and see.

OK.

I'm sorry to tie the insults

into the story.

So you're 12 weeks away, so

you're within this year we're

going to hit 600, right?

And at that .4.

Weeks by the end of summer.

And then by that point, John

Mctavish will be behind over

200.

Over 200.

He'll definitely be over 100.

He's already at like he's only

on 449 or something.

Right.

If he's watching one a day and

we're doing 5 a week, he's one

at one a week and we're doing 5

a week.

He's never, it's never going to

happen.

Eventually he gets so far behind

that the Like the Coupe show

that we posted, he would be

watching it for the first time.

The original one, yeah.

Yeah, 3 Pcas in the future.

He'll be covering COVID when

we're well past the pandemic.

COVID shows.

All right, this is my Co host

Mikey.

It's my favorite holiday.

It's hamburger day.

I love Yeah.

I didn't even know.

I'm very excited.

I didn't mess that up, he.

Did he was supposed to have

hamburgers?

And I don't even have lunch

today.

Well, it's not lunch yet.

It's not.

You probably can't get

hamburgers this early.

Oh yeah, you know, that's

probably true.

By the way, today's Antoine

reads birthday, even though this

comes out a day later.

Happy belated birthday Antoine.

Now we.

Have to do everybody's birthday.

No, we don't.

I I just threw it out there.

All.

Right.

Happy birthday, Mr. Reed.

I like him.

I like him too, yeah.

He works hard.

He does.

He's got a nice show too.

Who do you?

Feel different?

Who do you feel like it's

obligatory to wish a happy

birthday to?

Boots.

Nobody.

But I mean, we talked about

doing it at one point.

We're like, well, then we got to

do everybody.

If we miss somebody, they're

going to get mad.

Yeah, So this is just kind of

casual.

I saw it and I'm like.

And for everybody else that

listens, happy birthday.

There you go, covered.

There you go, forever.

For all of eternity, all of

eternity, if you say that I've

never mentioned for you on your

birthday, I want you to go back

to episode 540 and realize that

I acknowledged you and happy.

Birthday.

It's so nice of you wish

everybody happy birthday.

Everybody happy birthday.

Everybody, happy birthday on

today's show.

FBI has arrested a high level

CIA operative.

In trouble?

We've all heard of the watchdog,

but have you heard of a gun dog?

Have not.

Marathons have gone to the dogs

don't talk to my girlfriend

Judge, they can hear you.

And then in cigars, we have an

update to a smoking ban.

If someone is getting 3 new

cigars, then as always, we end

the show with an industry

favorite game.

Industry's favorite game.

What's the?

You don't do it right now.

Anytime I say it you we all free

have to do it, no?

Hey, you know what I'm going to

tell you because your mic has

gotten up higher and higher.

Now is it too high?

Yeah, now it's so high that it

actually picks up more of the

echo and like when you just

turned a little bit there.

Oh, I hit it.

I heard you so much better.

Well this this jacket has a

thinner lapel, so I went higher

to catch more of the lapel.

Got it.

Let me hear you.

Hello.

Oh yeah.

Hello, hello, hello.

I won't turn that way much, but.

Don't do that.

Don't, don't go.

Don't look over.

Here, don't look over there.

All right, well, you can look

over there, but you got to do

like this.

Hello, I can see you over there.

All right, and is your favorite

game?

What's the score?

But first, Mikey, how do we get

some of that chapter pond swag

and what's coming up next?

So many things, so many things,

so many things are going on

right now.

We.

Have so much free time.

The stress levels have been an

at an all time high however

however we're starting to make

some progress.

I'm very excited about all these

things.

Chapter pod.com for starters.

P BDP 4th of July shirt

accepting some pre-orders.

We have 10 of them sold so far,

5 We need five more and he's

going to be in overall.

Chafing overalls.

He's going to do it.

Red, white and blue overalls.

So get on that, get 5 more.

These came in today.

These came in.

They're not on the site yet.

They're not on the site yet.

Limited.

Number.

Yeah, there's, there's a limited

number available.

They will be on the site

shortly.

I'll work on that.

I guess I'll get right on that.

Good luck.

So very excited about that.

Very excited about that.

There's there's some website

stuff going on.

Oh boy, I can't wait.

I can't wait.

So check out chapter pod.com and

if you our Patreon, just so you

know, our Patreon that came out

yesterday, it was a good

Patreon.

Yeah.

It's about an hour long, yeah.

Yeah, it was.

Almost.

And we covered some good stuff

we did.

We reviewed the six O 120th, not

La Bamba 6O1 Blue.

Six O 1 blue. 20th anniversary,

no phone call yet, so check that

out now.

He hasn't listened yet.

He hasn't listened yet.

He's.

Unless he's out of town, then

he's in somebody's.

Car.

No, he's in town.

He's just drinking his coffee

this morning, getting his act

together.

You already heard from him today

but don't know about that?

What's that?

Have you already heard from him

today?

Just didn't mention the.

Show No No.

The cameras.

You checked the cameras and saw

he was drinking coffee.

Yeah, I have the cameras in his

house.

I got you some comments from our

previous show.

I actually just saw one from the

Pete Johnson clip.

Oh wow that says great

interview.

I thought it was a really good

interview.

I highly recommend all.

Your interviews like that are

good.

Checking that out.

We need to line another one up.

It's been a while.

Yeah, looks like Florida man's

hitting some shorts.

That's very nice of you.

We're getting some more short

traction, OK?

From episode 538, David

Hasselhoff said.

David Hoffman says Phil thought

Palmer was winking at him this

whole time.

Phil appeared to be drooling

over the retro hail on the blood

medicine I.

Don't know.

Phil thought Palmer was winking

at him this whole time.

It was a winking signal that I

was giving you for something

that I remember.

What it was, but it wasn't for

Phil.

No, it oh, maybe he thought Phil

or he's saying Phil thought I

was winking at him when I was

winking messages and Phil.

Appeared to be drooling over the

retro hill on the blood

medicine.

Were you having a blood medicine

a couple days?

Ago.

No, but we talked about it as a

cigar that came out and the new

size.

Yeah, yes, yes.

And I must have said something

and he went.

You.

Know the way he does.

I guess Ding Dong.

T Money.

I totally thought Phil was going

to ask how the hellcat, how a

hellcat, how the hell a cat was

elected president?

What?

What happened there?

All right, guys, I think we're

all having strokes.

No, but I mean I don't remember

if that was 2 shows ago.

I don't remember.

Yeah, but like there I barely

remember yesterday.

Here's the problem.

The problem is this this

podcast, we've done this, we're

doing this one earlier today,

yes.

So today's comments haven't come

in how so this is like?

Between the two.

And I'm not awake yet.

Yeah.

And my eyes aren't awake.

Usually I'm still sleeping.

By you need to get it together,

all of you.

Yeah.

All right, Just him.

Just him.

Thank you.

OK.

Yeah, he's not normally up to.

Show you need to get yeah he you

look like you just rolled out of

bed yeah so.

You have slippers on?

Oh, flip flops.

Jesus symbols.

I guess that's all I got because

then I got right into the T

money thing.

So yeah, this is the problem of

doing an early podcast.

All right, we'll wait till.

Later it goes.

Over or if you can just read the

comments later, we can clip it

in.

OK.

I'll leave that one cameras out.

OK, if you want to hear your

comment on the show, comment on

our YouTube page.

We should probably launch a

giveaway.

We never gave away the lighter

cutter set.

You want to do that?

We can give it away again, I

guess.

Come up with better idea.

Idea just sort of fizzled.

Well, here's the problem.

It can't be extremely intricate

like.

Right.

What people?

A little too much involved.

Yeah, you know, it has to be.

It's got to be kept super

simple.

So yeah, let's do that.

OK, Not on this episode, not on

540, but on 541 if you comment

below, all the way up to

5454123451234545, all the way

541 to 5:45, which is a full

week.

OK, Monday through Friday,

you'll be entered to win the

ashtray.

We'll bring that in next

tomorrow so you can show it off.

No lighter cutter.

Yeah, whatever.

Lighter cutter, Sorry, the

lighter cutter.

Same.

It's the same thing.

Well, no, ashtray is bigger.

No, that works.

That's fine.

And we're going to give that

away to kind of get things going

and we'll start that tomorrow

all.

Right.

So check that out.

Patreon, like and like and

subscribe.

Did I say like and subscribe?

Nope.

Make sure you like and

subscribe.

Hit it wherever you're viewing

or listening to this show and.

You said hit it in my head I

heard starting to, you know, a

song starting up.

You did too, to make a thing go

right.

Yeah, that's exactly what I

heard in.

My head.

OK, All right.

I think we're ready for the

show.

You ready to get on are?

You ready for the show now?

I think we're ready.

All right?

We're ready for the show now.

We're ready.

The FBI has arrested senior CIA

official David Rush.

Yes, what they?

What they resting for Oh my Mike

is done.

The show's over.

He's fixing.

Something something's wrong.

Keep.

Oh, oh, you keep going.

OK, Go ahead.

Well, I asked a question.

Oh, that sounds so much better.

All right, senior CIA official

David Rush, who's been arrested

for something.

What you've been arrested for?

It's going to be something.

This is the FBI has arrested the

CIA.

Oh, so then he's he's doing

something with China.

Are we playing for something?

He's doing something.

Yes, you get a Red Bull.

He's leaking intelligence to

another country, and I'm going

to say it's China.

All right, Phil.

No, he's still gold.

I get the Red Bull.

Oh, he already read that here.

And there's a story.

They discovered nearly $40

million in stolen gold bars at

his home during a federal

investigation.

That's a lot of bars.

There's a lot of bars.

How do you acquire the gold

bars?

Oh, let's read on.

Yeah.

According to investigators, the

CIA had provided Rush with gold

bars and foreign currency

between November and March for

what were described as work

related operational expenses.

Michael, I have some work

related operational expenses.

Let me get you some gold bars.

Gold bars.

However, officials later

discovered that a large portion

of those assets could not be

accounted for.

So if he could account for them.

Yes, if he could explain what he

did with the $40 million in

gold.

Bars.

Hey, hold on.

Yeah, no, listen here.

I had to bribe a lot of Chinese

people.

Here's.

My spreadsheet.

My spreadsheet.

During the search of Russia's

residence, federal agents

allegedly recovered

approximately 40 million in gold

bars, along with around 2

million in cash.

Because, you know, it's hard to

move gold bars.

Authorities also seized nearly

three dozen luxury watches

believed to be connected to the

investigation.

I'm sure.

No, no, these are mine.

Yeah.

I didn't buy these with your.

Gold.

No, this is part of my Co-op or

whatever my operation.

Part of my operational expenses.

Here's what I'm trying to do is

I'm trying to make myself look

like I'm extremely rich by

becoming extremely rich.

And I'm trying to create create

this persona that way.

Oh my.

God, we've done so well lately.

We just watch.

That way people think.

It's too early, fellows.

I have a comment on our I.

Have a comment just.

Give me, I have our first

comment.

Oh yes, and I'm going to, we're

going to bring that up once

you're done with this all.

Right, the case is quickly

gaining national attention due

to the scale of the alleged

theft and Rush's senior position

within it.

Inside the intelligence

community, federal investigators

are continuing to examine

financial records, asset

transfers, and potential

connections tied to the missing

funds.

At this time, officials have not

released additional details

regarding possible charges

beyond the arrest, and the

investigation remains ongoing.

I saw another story related to

this where he also faked his

resume when they hired him 20

years ago.

Yeah, something like that.

This guy's awesome.

Yeah, what's super crazy is he

just found this out 'cause it's

not like he just made like one

big hit, you know, yesterday,

right?

Like this has been going on time

for time.

Amassing the gold bars over

time, yeah.

So much to a point where he got

lazy about it, right?

I mean, right.

He assumed they'd never.

Never.

Yeah, yeah, I just stack him up

in the back bedroom.

That's my guess.

Like he probably started with

something light.

Right, the watches.

And then figured out how to no

it's it was before that.

They don't have watches in a

safe.

Figured out how to he figured

out how to fluff it like OK,

this is gone now and like this

is now off the board.

I made it look like it's gone

here for as an expense, right?

And now I have watch and like,

it probably took like four or

five years of doing that.

And then it got to a point he's

like, no one's looking at me,

right?

Give me just, you know, And then

he just starts.

Rolling out requisitions for

gold bars?

You sure you need more?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's going well.

It's going really well.

We're making.

More we're making a lot of

progress here.

I'm getting a lot of Intel and

then and then in order to like

to we probably had to start

fabricating Intel.

That's probably where he got

popped.

He probably did the ChatGPT, not

the I was.

Going to say.

You know, ChatGPT and he said

help me create a a whole in

depth thing.

And then we became so repetitive

because it's the same shit over

and over again that they're

like, wait a second, yeah.

Sometimes I have to tell it

we've done this already.

Right.

Hey, dude.

Oh, yeah, you're right.

It's.

The same social my.

Bad it does.

Sometimes it says my bad I know.

Oh, you're just.

Oh, yeah.

Well, when it destroyed our

site, it was like, I'm so sorry.

Yeah, they're very you're.

And you're right, I should have

done better.

I'm like.

Yeah, at least it's it's here.

Like.

Right.

I don't think it's it it.

Doesn't have emotions.

It knows you want to hear.

It's a.

Robot.

Can we just like point some out

here?

Yeah, sure, sure.

When did we start paying

anybody?

I don't care if you're in the

government or anything with gold

bars.

Well, he was he.

Well, yeah, I mean, no, you're

good.

Go ahead, spies like to operate

with gold bars.

Yeah, things that aren't

traceable.

They're they're aren't they?

Don't they have numbers on?

It I was gonna say, I think they

have serial numbers, yeah.

Do these do they have?

Serial.

I think they do.

I don't think.

There's some guy took in a mold.

Somewhere, yeah, he took these

out of the like the reserve.

Like out of Fort Knox.

No, I don't think it was Fort

Knox, but it was like a reserve

that they have.

He had to like requisition these

for something.

Not like you know, he walks and

he goes I need 7 today right?

The guy behind the little gauge

just goes one. 2.

Right, all right, just sign this

piece of paper, Ross.

You'll be fine.

We never went into Fort Knox,

right?

We never went in to go look.

I don't know.

To see if there's a $4 million.

Million that was, no, that was.

Remember, that was one of the

things.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, he was like, we're going.

To go into Fort Knox, he

probably said that and they're

like, you don't.

Want to go in there?

You can't go in there.

It's empty.

All right, let's move an

illusion.

Check out this island.

Right, Phil, could you look up

how much a gold bar is worth?

Oh, right now, yes.

MM and Greg would know.

Like 1 oz.

I I I don't know how big?

No how big is a regular 4 nice

gold bar?

I don't think these are little.

Are these little gold bar I'm

picturing?

The No, no, no, no, they're

little.

They're.

Like the ingots type thing.

Yeah, I'm picturing the big.

Like a big.

Fucking beat Yeah the big adult

sized gold bars.

Here you go.

Treasure Island.

Yeah, that's why he's got them

stacked up in the back bedroom.

All right now, right?

It's a small one Now.

I'm just curious how many gold

bars was 4 million?

Like a Hershey golden nugget.

What do you think of that

standard 1 oz bar?

Yeah, I guess that makes more

sense that.

'D be a lot of bars 440,000,000.

4 million no.

No, no, you said 40.

Oh, is it 40?

Yeah.

And I'm going back going.

Back 40 million in gold bars and

2 million in cash.

Oh, it is 40 million go.

Yeah, 2 million and around.

They got tired of counting.

OK.

So if it's a standard

institutional brick, it's 400

oz.

And it's worth 1.8 million.

So it's only 40 of those.

Well, last, but yeah.

Roughly.

So you think he's got.

You think he got the Mac daddy

ones?

Well, it's a lot easier that

way.

You don't have to have as many.

The one ounces are worth

somewhere between 4500 and 4700,

which is the most popular size

for individual buyers.

He'd have the steel pallet of

those.

Then there's a 10 oz.

It's obviously 45 to 46 K ish.

Obviously.

And then there's the kilo.

I like picturing the giant ones.

Yeah, we'll just stick with

those.

The 400 ouncers.

Yeah, it's going to be a much

better GPT image that I create

for us all holding.

Gold 1.83 million.

Yes, and what's what's even

crazier about this story is why

did you keep stealing the gold?

Like was, you know, a couple

million not enough?

Yeah, 'cause you 'cause look 40.

Yeah.

He's got 40 sitting around.

Like no one's coming.

There's no, he's like, oh, I'm

good.

Yeah, but at 40, I mean don't

Where do you have enough?

You don't.

It's got to be enough at.

Some point there's no line.

And not only that, but then he

still worked there like I'd

disappeared.

He didn't.

He didn't.

Never hit his mark.

It's hard to move $40 million at

one time.

Not when they're gold bricks.

Well, sure it is.

You got to put those in a car,

it'll be too heavy. 1.83 million

per.

It'll be like Die Hard 3.

They're going to need the the

dump trucks.

I'm sure there's a buyer out

there on the black market or

whatever.

Yeah, he's got, he's got the

connect.

He's part of the CIA.

That's how we got the 2 million.

He started liquidating.

Maybe he's in the middle of

liquidating.

It's that's like 2223 bricks.

Yeah, 40 million, right.

If it was the 400 oz right, that

ain't bad.

No, that's easy to move.

I would have stopped.

That's 4 bricks and I would have

left the FBI or CIA, whatever

one he's in.

He's CIA.

And I would have moved to a.

Leave the CIA.

They just put a star out.

Yeah, they put a star up on the

board.

And he's done.

And he's.

Done.

They're.

Not going to kill him over over

bricks or. $40 million.

Yeah, they kill for less.

Allegedly.

Not for me, not for bricks, not

for money.

Not for money, no.

Well, we don't know what he did

with the money.

Well, that's alleged.

Yeah, true.

I would buy an island well.

That's what I was saying, like

he'd go to like an island that

has non extradition or

something.

That's what I would have done.

Start your own country.

Yeah.

No, no, my island is non

extradition.

Sorry.

And then they just said, I mean,

it's CIA, they'll just come in

to take you and move you where

there is extradition.

They can do that.

They can do whatever they want.

There's CIA.

It's.

True.

Look, we just took a leader out

of a country in the middle of

the night.

You think they can't take you

off your own island?

That was that guy is way

different than the brick guy.

Not to the CIA.

All right, moving on.

We're done making fun of the CIA

guy before they come knocking on

the door over.

There, well, he has to do the

comment.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm going to guess, well, let's

guess who it is.

Walmer before.

You read it all.

Right, you can guess.

Comes in on my phone.

You get, you get 3 guesses.

If you don't get it, you owe me

two Red Bulls to offset the one

that you just acquired by

cheating.

I did not cheat and T money.

No.

Ruckus.

Did your mother God?

No.

I figured she'd comment on her,

her face being.

We haven't.

First of all, we have not seen.

Mr. Weiss.

And and a few.

Episodes.

What is the last name Weiss?

Weiss I don't know who that is.

CW Yeah, Nope.

That's what you owe me, a rebel.

There's one.

So no, that's I already got that

one at Bruce Cox.

A216 says battered animals

always have a negative reaction

to quick movements for self

preservation.

Palmer must have the PTSD.

PTSD when I picked up the remote

and I did this and you did a

yeah, I thought.

You were throwing something.

That means that you got that on

camera him going.

Yeah.

Nice.

Yeah, turn the air on.

It's getting.

Hot, it's true.

Do you have you been beaten as a

were you beaten as a child or

something?

Bullied.

Bullied.

Yeah.

By who?

I.

Don't remember the kids name I

was just I was smaller so not a

relative.

Someone at school.

I mean, yeah, I could see that

sometimes your mouth will

probably get you in.

Drunk, I would.

Assume you know.

I don't remember exactly the

reasons, but that makes sense.

Head tracks.

How old?

How old are you?

Let's unpack this.

Way back.

Don't bring up hurtful memories,

Michael.

I've had to push way way way

down.

Obviously don't, because I can't

pick up a remote like this

without you being.

Tell, I said.

The corner of my eye.

I see you go like this.

That is a throwing position.

I've never as you've known me

for 20 years.

I'm not saying you're throwing a

brick of gold at me, but I mean,

it could have been a sock.

I don't know.

It'd be just something to, you

know, set me off when this when

I'm talking.

So he used to put bricks and

socks.

That was not right.

Like in the red.

What was it going?

They beat the kid with the sock

and the soap.

Oh, it's.

That was not the appropriate

code Red.

That was not the appropriate

episode to throw something at

you.

And by the way, you did a great

job editing the whole thing out.

The whole thing you never even

know.

Nope.

I get backing it up like no,

it's still then they're going to

think something's missing.

Let's go back a little, OK,

right here it.

Was Yep, it was very clean.

Yep.

So.

But no, I would never come on.

You throw cigars at me all the

time.

Yeah, leaves.

I throw leaves.

Well, I mean, I wish those are

no, it could have been a water

balloon.

Why are?

You complaining about?

If I throw cigars in there,

that's a present.

That's not a.

You know what?

You don't have to throw cigars

at him anymore.

You can throw them at me.

OK, I threw one at you yesterday

and it was a disaster.

I tried to catch it.

Too much light in my eyes.

Yeah, there was.

There is a lot of light.

CD lamp.

All right, moving on.

We're moving on.

Police respond to a report of a

shotgun blast at a convenience

store.

Sounds like the opening of a

countless American crime movie.

But when cops in Nebraska

responded to a recent such call,

they found an unusual culprit.

Who did you find?

Boots.

Who was it?

I'm going to guess it's a dog

because that's what you said in

the beginning.

Always paying attention today

paying attention.

Well, maybe his brain cells are

like.

We gotta catch him in the

morning.

Yeah, that's what.

I'm saying I did eat breakfast

this morning, so yeah, they say

that helps you.

What'd you add up early?

I had two eggs, bacon.

Oh, you had like you had like a

legit breakfast, like a

breakfast.

He woke up, did like a belly rub

like this and then I'm.

Home.

No, I had to.

I had to make the girls

breakfast the last day of

school.

They wanted breakfast.

Wait a second.

And you made this breakfast?

Yeah.

No one made it for you?

No.

I picked your poor pregnant Tia

up in the kitchen.

Yeah, Tia.

Or or your new servant next

door.

You know, like all.

Right.

The car's been different every

day this week.

Does she have like a revolving

source of cars like Greg?

The car you're talking.

About the same spot every day,

but there's been almost a

different car.

Or are you running through new

assistants?

No.

Are you burning through them?

No, I don't.

I don't know if she has.

I never see her car.

Yeah, you think she?

Well, no.

Because you're not here.

This is where the work happens.

Well, well, when when she when

she's at the house in the

morning, when she's making the

breakfast, he's never outside.

She just makes it, cleans

everything up and then leaves.

I only.

Know it's her car because

there's a sign in the back

window.

She used to be a realtor or

something.

No, she, no, she still is.

She's she's on like some

committee for Florida.

And the punishment was you have

to work for APS.

No, I, you know, it's kind of

funny.

She's.

A spy I.

Think she.

Might be, might be a spy.

It was kind of funny.

When she wanted to work for us,

she was like telling us about.

I was like, well, why do you

want to work here?

She's like, I just need some

extra money.

I'm like OK.

It's a it's a total

investigation.

It is investigating.

You'll be investigated, man.

Yeah, you're done.

They're going to.

Find out.

I just want you to know,

whatever your undocumented

workers, yeah, whatever you're

up to, they're going to get to

the bottom of it and fake.

Permits pulled in certain

counties.

Hey, listen, this is even more

of a reason why you need to

purchase merch on Chapter

pod.com because we're going to

need bail money for Phil.

No, we're not.

Well, we got to get him back.

We got to get him out.

I appreciate that, but I

probably would call Greg, yeah.

Greg's the one you call if you.

Need that money, Everybody knows

that.

Greg, Greg ain't bailing you

out.

You're the one you call with

your body or you need an alibi.

OK, I agree with that, but I'm,

but I'm also going to tell you

that look, the reason why Greg

has the money is because he

doesn't use the money.

You know what I mean?

So.

Well, for Bailey, what I feel it

depends on the person.

I mean, that's how he matters.

Why?

Oh.

Come.

On.

Not in jail.

No, Yeah, let's not explain it

either.

Hold.

On hold on one second.

Listen, this is going to be a

little poppy, but I'm doing

this.

It is what it is.

You're going, Greg?

It's the worst thing.

Colin, Greg.

Yeah.

He's trying to see if he would

bail me out.

Money.

Moment of truth.

They've been electrocuted.

Is he even awake?

He's here.

Yeah.

Hey, listen, you're on the

podcast.

This is going to be very brief,

OK?

If, if Phil, you know who Phil

is correct?

Yeah.

OK.

If Phil went under some

investigation at his place of

business and he got arrested and

bail was set at $20,000, would

you bail him out fast?

Yes.

Greg, Greg.

Greg.

Greg.

And you would pay for it, you'd

cover that, and then you'd

expect him to pay you back.

Well, he would be able to pay me

back because I would make sure

that he winds up being in front

of the judge.

You get the money back when you

go in front of the judge.

OK, Oh, you don't have to pay

him back.

Oh, OK.

All right, all right.

So we'll find out what the limit

is, what's?

It's 50,000 if it was the same

person.

Same person.

Yes.

Yes, OK, keep, keep 100,000.

Wow, Jesus, what'd I do?

Same person, same person.

Yes, yes.

Oh boy.

Don't try to check Greg.

'S pockets.

Keep checking his pockets.

OK, one one last time, one last

time, last one.

Same person 200.

Thousand.

Oh my God, yes, yes.

Wow.

Greg, Greg.

Greg.

Greg.

Greg.

Greg.

What is the cap?

It's it's the cap is the amount

the cap the cap is the amount of

money I have access to within

fucking 48 hours.

You, you do understand that if

you go to jail, your probability

of being found not guilty is

significantly higher.

If you're out of jail, when you

go in front of the judge wearing

the jumpsuit, you're in deep

shit.

If you have the ability to bail

out and then present your case,

you will wind up having a much

better opportunity for beating

it.

That's interesting.

So, like, the first thing you do

when you go to jail is you get

the fuck out of jail, OK, All

right.

They they Greg's my guy.

Sounds like he's such a

professional about this.

Isn't that weird?

He has a rare set of skills.

Yeah, like, I don't know where

that is.

It's very odd.

Greg does.

That's very odd.

All right.

Thanks, Greg.

Thank you very much.

Triple G goodbye.

I just want to know that if I'm

going to jail, I'm pushing the

limit.

It's got to be like 1,000,000

something that he's got to.

I mean, I want he can't get only

because I want him to think

out-of-the-box like I need you

to figure this out, right?

Right.

However, that's what he does

here though.

However, he may leave me there

so that he can acquire all of

it, right?

Oh, yeah.

I don't know.

There's nothing I can.

Do right down somewhere that I

get it if you were

incapacitated.

Yeah, well, someone's going to

take care of my family.

That means not alive.

Unalived.

I said incapacitated, non

reachable.

Well, Greg just starts signing

his name on Stuff I.

Don't know how we got on that

topic, but that was great.

That was great.

I don't, I don't remember.

Yeah.

The limit is how much money he

can get.

Wow.

Yeah, and that's for Phil.

Right, baby.

Yeah, well, when he, when he, I

was hoping he would say no at

certain level.

Me too.

Then you throw in a different

name, you throw in my name.

Yeah.

And then he just goes, oh man.

I knew Greg, I knew Greg would

do.

We've had this conversation

before.

That's that's why he's under

investigation upstairs.

No, no, no, no.

He's like, hey.

If.

This kind of.

Happened.

Just say hypothetically, if I

were to get arrested, how much

money would you spend to get me

bailed out?

Like what would what would you

leverage?

No, no, that's not how the

conversation went.

Was is, hey, I was like, yo, if,

if if anything ever happened,

could I call you?

He goes, yeah.

He's like, well, my brother is

the one that you call for the

body and then I'm the one that

you call for the bail money.

I'm like, how much?

I did the same thing you did.

I was like, how much bail money?

You know, Like where?

Yeah, like where?

Like where do I know not to call

Greg?

Bail has said it 250,000.

Dollars I'm like no, it's.

Done, Greg, I need you to chip

in.

Tell my wife, call Greg.

When you call Greg, just tell

them the price.

Yeah, if you want bail money

from me.

Yeah, Mikey don't have.

Any you're going to rot.

I got news for you.

Strong.

It has a big shovel.

Strong.

That's the only tool that this

house is a shovel.

Oh.

Nice.

And the usual culprit?

It was a dog.

Local TV station News Two

reported the police in the town

of Scottsbluff were called out

to a local store recently after

reports of a blast involving a

shotgun.

Upon arrival they found a truck

with a blast damage in one of

the doors and a woman who had

been struck in the arm by a

pellet from a shotgun apparently

had bird shot in.

However, investigation showed a

canine cause behind the shooting

when it was revealed the blast

happened as the vehicle had

pulled up to the store as a dog

had been moving from one side of

the backseat to the other.

Somehow the dog had triggered

the shotgun, which had a live

round chamber.

But you don't want to carry a

shotgun in a chamber, right?

Damaging the vehicle and

striking a female passerby.

The victim was taken to

hospital, though not seriously

injured.

It is illegal in Nebraska to

drive with a loaded shotgun in

your vehicle.

That's that's why you blame.

It's illegal.

The dog.

It wasn't me, it was the dog.

It was Fido.

Fido back there, he's very

angry.

I was at the store to get his

cookies.

I like, I like that.

To make matters worse, like the

dog didn't shoot its owner, it

shot a random person.

Somebody walking by that is

weird and you know, he just

nicked her, so the dog's a bad

shot.

Well, I mean, it's it had to go

through the car.

Don't make excuses for the dog's

bad marksmanship.

Bat marksmanship we've been.

Working on this for weeks there.

Fido, you're supposed to shoot.

Better.

I'm surprised Birdshot went

through the car.

Yeah, me too.

That means that means barrel had

to be like up against the.

Right up against the Yeah.

And he's very excited walking

back and.

Forth How many dogs do you have

now?

75 or just two?

We have two.

You have two. 2 is the line for

us.

We had three and it's too much.

3 is 2.

We had three ruckus.

He has passed and it was, I mean

even though he was a little dog,

3 is too much. 3 is just too

much.

Yeah.

OK, so the two dogs names are

Dempsey.

Whiskey and Dempsey correct?

Of those two dogs, yes.

Which dog do you think would be

more capable to shoot a person?

In this exact circumstance, no.

Just.

Personality wise, oh are they

like fighting off an intruder?

No, just you know.

Randomly shot somebody bang.

Yeah, that would probably be.

Whiskey.

Are they going to be whiskey?

Yeah, well, he's younger, he's

more rambunctious.

And yeah, he would just say,

hey, Dempsey's getting older.

It's not a lot of running as

much.

We don't run.

We don't run as.

Much.

We don't run as much anymore.

OK.

And what what about you?

You think your dog is capable of

shooting somebody?

No.

It's the cat, the one you'd.

Cat.

I was getting to that, yeah.

You think the cat would shoot

somebody?

Yeah, I wish he would so that

way he'd go to jail and never

come back.

He's a street cat.

Odds are he has shot something.

No.

If it went, if it went to jail,

we would just call Greg, No.

Yeah, not calling.

Greg Yeah, No, the cat would be

out.

Spit up my drink that.

Was the cat would be out.

That way it can present its case

in a full suit, not in the on

the orange jumpsuit.

Don't they bring you a suit?

I mean, I'm on the movies on TV.

They usually bring the guy a

suit.

No, they don't.

Do that.

Oh, I like that he knows that.

No.

Listen, you ever seen these guys

on TV?

Like when they're doing the like

the big cases and stuff?

Well, I just assume they're, you

know, the attorneys that get

assigned to you for free don't

provide suits.

Well, was Diddy in a suit?

No.

Diddy went in a suit.

Yeah, he was in an orange

jumpsuit.

That was it, yeah.

Well, for him that might be

better.

He's probably not getting out.

Then you know some type of silk

suit.

By Greg's statistics, he's not

getting out.

He's not getting out.

He's like, I'm sober now.

Like when you're in jail.

Has he been sentenced?

I.

I.

Yeah, I think he did.

Yeah, it was like 2 years or

something.

Yeah, so then he's too late.

He can't get out until his time

is up or he gets out for good

behavior.

I wonder if there's more things

there like more trials and stuff

that he's out of baby oil.

He's he's out a baby oil.

Well, they yeah, no, there was,

there was more investigations

going on.

It's.

Ongoing.

More people are popping up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Baby oiled me too.

So much baby oil.

So much baby oil, OK?

You know they've outlawed baby

oil in prisons.

Really.

Have they?

I saw that the other day.

Again, I've read way too much

did.

You really?

They outlawed it in prisons.

No longer.

I mean they used to allow it but

not anymore.

Too many free coughs lately.

Well, I guess there's a way you

can rig up a thing to heat water

for coffee and tea and stuff in

your cell.

Yeah.

So they pour baby oil in the hot

water, and then if they douse

you with it, it burns more and

it's harder to get off because

it's.

It's the oil.

Yeah, it's the oil.

They said your skin just peels

off at that point.

So no more baby oil.

You think they would outlaw the

tea and coffee heater?

You know, look, man, it's got to

be tough in there, you know?

We got to have our tea.

Yeah, I think that that's

reasonable.

I don't know.

I don't know why not.

I would like one of the softer

nicer gels with the Starbucks is

in the you know, stuff you can

get.

Where you can just order and

before you.

Approach the line.

Yeah, the cantina has a

Starbucks in it or something.

Well, you got to be super rich.

The cantina.

It's what's called where you go

get your stuff, your soaps and

your shampoos.

And your I thought that was like

some I know nothing about prison

or jail, but I thought that you

were referencing an actual name

of a prison or jail that legit

has the Starbucks.

No, there are some I mean.

I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure there's

some type of probably federal.

That's where the movie stars go

and stuff.

No way.

Yeah, there's no way.

Like a federal pen probably

would.

Yeah, when the lady from Full

House went, when she went to

prison her.

Uncle Jesse's wife.

Yeah, her prison at a Starbucks.

That's where I read.

It Is there a prison with a

Starbucks in it in the United

States?

Well, I don't know if it's in

it, but you can order.

Do you want me to use ChatGPT to

answer that?

I sure do.

Oh, that was you guys.

Like, is my phone talking to me?

You're still Bluetooth

apparently.

I sure do.

Yes, there is a Starbucks

located near a prison in the

United States.

The Utah State Prison in Draper,

UT is adjacent to a Starbucks

known for its distinctive prison

like architecture.

This Starbucks has been

nicknamed OK, so it's not in

there though.

Namely no, but they have like

Starbucks Starbucks products.

Like you can buy Starbucks at

Publix.

I don't.

Think there's a barista in there

just waiting on, you know,

prisoner 442 to come pick up his

latte or something.

It it really just depends on

like you're sentencing, like if

you got guys that are in for

life, like it's really like the

movie life.

Like you, you don't go to a

regular prison with just, you

know, cell blocks, blah blah

blah.

Like Goodfellas?

Like a prison cell block.

Yeah, no, yeah.

Well, no, it's, it's like you go

to like farms and stuff like

working farms, like they have

stuff like that.

You know, he always sounds

relatively convincing.

I don't know.

There's one in Brevard County,

you can see it right from 95.

It's a farm.

Yeah, it's right by the shooting

range to the left of it.

What do they I know where the

shooting range?

What do they grow?

I don't.

It's things I don't know.

They have bunk houses and I mean

you can see it, the thing to the

left.

Oh, they're Cowboys.

I'm going to go to cowboy prison

like a.

You think a bunkhouse is called

a bunkhouse because it was in

Yellowstone?

Yeah.

It's like Yellowstone.

That's where you go when things

go bad.

You go to the bunkhouse.

They keep they keep showing that

clip on TikTok.

I still haven't watched that in

Ranch yet, by the way.

Oh it's good, I watched the

first episode last night, how

was it?

It was good.

Does RIP beat the crap out of

somebody?

Because that's not only.

Really.

Not yet.

Not yet.

He's trying not to be a bad guy.

Oh.

I like, I like that.

They enter, they're from what I

see in the first episode,

they're trying to integrate his

son more.

You adopted one, Yeah.

Yeah, they're giving him a

storyline.

He's going to get in.

Trouble.

It's the weird part is, well, he

already has one.

It's the same kid from when he

was a little fat kid.

He's just grown up.

He's grown up now.

Yeah, he's this tall, slender.

He's not slender.

He's thin compared.

He's like a.

Fat kid.

He's like RIP like, he's like

thick.

No, he's not that.

Big because they think he's.

Do you think he has an

assistant?

They think he's an adult.

Well, I think as he looks older

and he's got a part of a beard.

I don't think he looks 21

though.

OK.

But I mean, they play that off

in the thing that he looks like

an adult.

Somebody has him by gear for

them.

OK.

But yeah, RIP is talking about

Spoiler.

He's already had to get rid of a

dead body, but he didn't kill

it.

His son did.

No, no, he found it on the

property.

You're going to tell him the

whole episode, all right?

I didn't like how they did it

with the flashback.

Right.

OK, All right, I'll, I'll watch.

Maybe I'll watch this weekend.

Yeah, they're up to is it

episode 3 or 4?

Yeah, 3.

Three OK, next episode.

By the way, I got another

comment.

Ding rolling.

Ding, can you make a Ding?

Phil, can you go Ding?

Ding.

Oh look, a comment came in.

Oh, it's Ruckus.

I know it's at rooks coatings.

No no quilt trip here.

I just like to support my

friends sometimes.

That's giving G them gifts.

Maybe it's just giving them

gifts I.

Guess I.

Don't know he's referencing the

cups.

Oh, gotcha.

Thank you.

It's no guilt trip here.

Thank you.

Not we're guilt trip, we're

guilting him or he's guilty, no.

No, we you, you guilt you guys

guilt for.

Oh, oh, oh, I got you.

Yeah, I see.

Well, Phil was doing that, yeah.

Well, we appreciate.

We appreciate you Rooks codes.

Of course we do.

Yes, it's where you do all our

coatings.

He actually did our comps.

Yeah, he did those.

Yep.

So if you guys want some dope

stuff, call it Brooks.

So there you go.

That's their new slogan, as a

matter of fact.

You want some dope stuff?

You.

Call rooks.

You call rooks.

All right, when an Alabama

Bloodhound name Ludivine.

LUDIVINE.

How are you going to say

ludicrous?

Ludicrous.

We'll go with Ludicrous.

When Alabama Blowhound named

Ludicrous was let outside for a

quick bathroom break in 2016,

her owner had no idea she'd

wander over to the starting line

of the Elkmont Half Marathon.

I.

Didn't know it since 2016.

OK, curious and friendly.

Ludicrous.

But you can scrub this if you

want.

Oh, it's a cute story.

OK, 'cause it's already at 40.

Minutes into.

The crowd just as a race began

and instead of heading home, she

trotted off with the runners.

What started as a dog's casual

stroll turned into a full blown

race effort.

She ran through the field,

sniffed around, chased the

rabbit and one point, then

rejoined the pack and kept going

mile after mile.

To everyone shocked, Ludovic

Ludicrous didn't just finish the

entire 13.1 mile course, she

ended up finishing 7th place.

Crushed it.

Earning a medal and becoming a

local legend Overnight photos of

the floppy teared accidental

athlete went viral and now the

race is called the Hound Dog

Half Marathon in her honor.

It's a neat little story because

the dog shot somebody in the

previous story.

That's what we're just

offsetting it.

Offset, Yeah.

So in spirit, we would like to

rename National Hamburger Day.

OK.

May 28th to Fat Phil Hamburger

Day.

Makes sense.

That totally tracks.

I don't know how we got there,

but I'm I'm convinced.

Yeah, we're having technical

difficulties.

Palmer's camera doesn't work

anymore.

All right, we'll skip the next

story.

The next story is not that good,

OK?

A lady ran over somebody, OK,

because she thought he was

talking to her lesbian

girlfriend, apparently.

It's a long story.

We're already at 40 minutes.

Yep, rolling right alone

rolling.

Another comment.

Another comment, yeah, one just

came in here right from at my T,

Sharp says.

Phil, you look fantastic.

Thank you.

Yeah, you have a beautiful skin.

Thank you and great mask.

Thank you.

You got to put the mask on so

you can be on the camera.

Yeah, Princess Peach.

Let's see it.

Let's go.

There it is.

There it is now, Seth.

Now thank you.

There, there she is.

Thank you.

Wow, I don't know that my T

Sharp is.

I feel like there's a punch line

on them.

No, there's actually no comment.

I just kind of winged that.

A federal district judges in hot

water after being caught in an

extra mental affair with a law

enforcement officer and judges

chambers.

Now apparently they were being

so loud that her staff outside

had to tell her to be quiet.

They can hear you.

What happened there is.

A federal judge, they're not

saying the name.

They're not saying if it's a man

or a woman, matter of fact.

Look at these cannons.

Right got caught because she was

having or he or she the judge

was having sex with a high level

police officer.

Again, not saying man or woman

in her chambers during work days

between cases.

What's the problem?

Well, apparently that's frowned

upon.

It was just too loud.

Yes, OK.

A memo filed on Friday shows a

special committee for the 11th

Circus, which covers Florida,

Georgia, Alabama, issued an

order against the judge back in

February finding the judge

engaged in judicial misconduct.

OK.

I'd have to see a picture of the

girl.

I looked they're they're not

releasing.

Why do you have to see a

picture?

Just curious.

As long as they're, you know, as

long as there's nothing like

somebody's married or some

crazy.

Shit.

Oh, let's redone.

Oh God.

The thing that she was accused

of I.

Hope it's a Capital One girl.

Engaging in an extramarital

affair with a high-ranking law

officer and having sexual

intercourse in the judge's

chambers during business hours

within hearing distance of the

staff.

Aren't judges normally old?

No, no, just the Supreme Court

ones are super old.

Not all of them.

But she was only and she's given

like a slap on the wrist and

said not to do it anymore and

they're not releasing who it

was.

OK, all right, so affair no

bueno.

She said, well, she says it's

not, or they say it's not true

that the staff member who

complained is upset because she

got a bad review.

Oh, it's related to the the

other guy with the yes, Wells

Fargo or whatever.

Is that yeah, They had made-up

the accusations in retaliation

of being repeatedly chastised

for performance issues, court

records show.

However, special committee

formed a look into the issue and

found that the judge's conduct

surrounding the affair

demonstrated a gross lack of

judgement.

She must have been ugly.

Creating a or she was hot.

It could go either way.

The gross lack of judgement.

Right.

Yeah.

What?

What?

Because it says gross.

You think the person's gross?

Yeah.

Oh, OK, the.

Committee The committee noted

that the affair made the judge

subject to vulnerable to

potential extortion or

blackmail.

Haters gonna hate.

Hey, tell you what I know you

bang that cop, say I'm not

guilty.

You're.

Going to have to let me off.

After you're off.

Right.

It says the committee suggested

a private reprimand and the

judge agreed not to oppose the

sanction, as well as write an

apology letter to the former law

clerk and refrain from serving

at any judicial committee.

I'm very sorry for making too

much noise in my office.

Very sorry for the loud sex

noise that's.

Crazy, since we've accumulated

all this Lube from the prisons.

The baby oil is no longer.

Allowed It must be put.

Must be put to use.

That's crazy because if if

you're banging somebody that was

married in your office at a

another establishment, you'd

probably go to jail.

No, it's not against.

The law.

Why you could?

That's like a pub, that's a

public place.

It's a private place.

It's private, but public.

So you can't be both.

So if if you're banging somebody

upstairs in your office, it's

not your wife, you think the

cop's going to come and arrest

you for that?

You're under arrest.

Under arrest for having sex in

your office.

What is it?

What's the what's it called when

you're when you have sex?

Addiction Exposure.

No, when you have sex out of

when you're married.

Extramarital affair.

No.

Well, that's yeah, that is

something, but it's called

something else.

Is it?

You can have charges brought

against you.

I don't think so.

Ronnie said something.

I know I should aggressive.

I like The other day, he said

something aggressive.

Then he had to.

Delete it because he found what

he was looking for.

What was the show deal again?

You didn't do it?

Yeah.

You didn't get the show deal.

You want to make up your own.

We're recording.

I know.

All right, cigar news, unless

you have a video.

I don't because we're running so

late.

I don't have a video.

I was.

Trying to make up for yesterday

all right.

Cigar News Knoxville, TN banned

smoking inside bars.

Here's an update.

May 27th, 2020.

Sixth and Knoxville City Council

voted six to three in favor of

the new law.

It will take effect January 1st,

2027.

It's a damn shame.

They have banned smoking inside

of bars.

Oh my God.

Oh, and music venues.

This was the first vote.

The second vote will take place

on Tuesday, May 26th.

If approved, the law would go.

The law would outlaw The law

would outlaw indoor smoking to

those venues, effective January

1st.

The ordinance would not restrict

smoking inside of cigar stores.

Adultery.

Sorry.

Vape shops and other retail

tobacco stores.

No, no, it's smoking, not

adultery.

No, I know, but that was that's

what we were looking for

earlier.

Nice, still sending stuff. 2022

Tennessee law allows for cities

to pass additional smoking bans

like this age restriction venues

like bars or one of the

exemptions for the state's ban

on indoor smoking in public

places so no more smoking inside

at.

Tennessee Bars.

Tennessee bars, Knoxville.

Just Knoxville, OH.

Only Knoxville.

Yeah, the the law allows for

specific cities to set up their

specific laws.

Well, OK, I don't understand

Knoxville.

I can understand Tennessee.

Yeah.

No, no, I'm, I'm saying like I

could understand a city like

Nashville, right, like those

bars, because they're singers in

those bars and you know, smoke

effects singers, vocal cords,

you.

Don't think they're singers in

Knoxville bars.

Not as much as Nashville.

Nashville is where all the

celebrity bars are.

Yeah, but it's Tennessee,

though.

That's where all the country

western singers go.

And if you can't, you know, if

you're not quite Nashville, you

go to Knoxville.

Really.

No.

Anyways, I'm not.

Believing it's like it's like

AAA ball.

Yeah.

They're working their way up and

yes, I made a sports reference

and I'm not sure if it's

correct.

And like, especially in

Knoxville, because do you think

bars out there serve food?

Yes.

Or do you think they're just

bars?

Knoxville's a bigger city than

Nashville.

Isn't that like the where the

state capital is?

Knoxville, TN.

I'm pretty sure it's Nashville.

I don't know Knoxville.

I'll verify for you.

Knoxville's a big city though.

5th grade.

Was a long time ago.

It's probably neither one of

those.

Is it Johnson City?

That's where they make the

Johnsonville brats.

That's where Hootie's from.

Hootie and the Bluffer capital

of Tennessee, Michael.

I scrubbed it by accident.

Nashville.

It's Nashville.

Which city is bigger, Nashville

or Knoxville?

What city is bigger?

Pretty Nashville.

Nashville is significantly

larger than Knoxville.

Nashville is the largest city in

Tennessee with a population of

approximately 712,000, while

Knoxville is the state's third

largest city with about 202,000.

Residents.

It's the third largest.

It's right up there.

There's not a lot of people that

live in Tennessee, truthfully.

My family's from Tennessee.

What are?

You trying to say, yeah, but

there's just not a lot of people

that live there.

My my family lives in Tennessee.

You can make fun of your own

family.

You're from Tennessee.

No, we're not from they moved.

There, they're the only

Tennessee.

All right.

Our Disney O del Tobacco has

provided an update about 3

upcoming releases.

OK, 2 for this year, one for

next year.

OK.

Can we do a press release on

cigars we may release in the

future too?

Sure.

One of three new.

I mean, if this changes,

nobody's going to notice.

They're not going to go back and

go, you know, back in.

There will be one there.

Will be.

One there will be 1.

The Viva La Vida Connecticut

Lancero.

The company announced the cigar

last September alongside the new

Viva La Vida Connecticut

Churchill.

Is there a big difference

between a Churchill and a

Lancero?

Lancero's dinner?

Huge difference.

Huge difference.

Yeah.

Artisio Del Taco Del Taco Del

Taco Del Taco said it pulled in

its e-mail list and asked which

Vitoli would like added to the

line.

We did not get the get to chime

in on this.

The top vote getter was the

Churchill, which is due out this

month, and the Lancero finished

second at the 2026 PCA

convention and trade show.

The company said the cigar would

have an MSRP of Churchill.

Viva Lovito.

Viva Lovito del Taco. $17.00.

Ding Ding Ding Ding $17.00 right

on the money.

Boom First Cigar and Target

released release date in

September.

This week's e-mail has a release

date as summer.

One other note is that the ring

gauge is now listed as 40

opposed to 38.

Also coming later this year will

be the El Pupo Corona Gorda Box

Press 6 and half by 40 vitola

that the company describes as

medium bodied.

El Pupo uses a Mexican San

Andreas wrapper over a Nicaragua

Good Job binder and Nika Raguan

fillers.

No pricing is announced.

So what's the price?

For the El.

Pupo Corona.

Corona.

Corona it'll.

Probably be like 14 or 1450. 16.

Ding, Ding, Ding, $15.00.

You guys split it?

I don't know, just making it up.

They didn't announce the price.

I just read that.

Yeah, no, I think it's going to

be just below 15.

All right, And then finally the

company is teasing a new line.

The Oro Carrojo Artesiano del

Tobacco says it has spent four

years working on the blend with

AJ Fernandez.

That is 80% done.

Does it take over 4 years to

make a cigar?

No, it takes about it.

Seems kind of long.

Takes about a day it's.

Going to say you said you send

me down to do one.

I'm not.

I don't have four years to

spend.

Well, you got it.

You got to understand that

there's a lot that has happened

before the minute that you walk

in that door, right, as far as

acquiring the tobacco, right,

Right.

And then putting it in the

pallones in the fermentation

process and all of those things,

right?

So there should be.

Why does it take you 8?

Well, how many?

Four years?

Four years, I don't think it's

been 4 years and they're only

80% done.

Yeah, that.

They could grow tobacco special

for this one at this point.

Sounds like Ages just kicked the

can on it.

Like, yeah.

These guys won't be back called

El Poopo.

Yeah, I'm working on that.

I'm working on.

Yeah, I'm working on.

Had a fire.

All your stuff burned up.

I don't gotta start over.

Start over.

You stay at my new hotel.

It's very nice.

I gotta get the, you know, I got

to get the Hubano.

Yeah, we don't.

You know, they don't have any

right now.

We're.

Going to find the Sumatra.

I got Rafael Noodle coming.

I got to give a tour.

Like how?

What do you want me to grow my

own?

Oh, I do.

Oh, I do grow my own.

Only AJ.

Yeah, that's a process.

Like to see my coral reef as.

Long as you're here, my coral

reef.

No details we're given about the

blend because they don't know

what it is yet.

No sizes or pricing, but the

company said it's targeted

relates to be 2027.

So they have no clue about their

cigar other than when they want

to release it.

Well, you know.

It's a targeted, it's going to,

you know, maybe.

They're trying to tease it, you

know, like here, I'm going to

defend them a little bit.

They it's like you try to figure

out how you continue to keep

your name relevant I guess in

certain scenarios and you just

gently dropped.

Drag the pictures of the poopoo

corona thing out you.

Know obviously, I think that the

the poopo's probably the one

that's tracked the most.

Because of the name.

What's the name?

Poopy.

And we talk about it often

because I like the name.

It was a great name.

He likes the poop.

El bubo.

And you know the ale Hydra.

If you guys, yeah, if you guys

would like me to just voice over

El Poopo, you guys can use that.

Wait, what cigar did you say by?

Hal Hydra.

Hal Hydra.

It's an octopus.

Is it the fish?

Is that what they do I.

Don't remember what that is.

That a real cigar name.

Hal Hydra.

Yeah.

No, no.

Oh.

We that's going to be our news

again.

Yeah.

We'll be out in four to five

years, 70% of it's done.

We're a little behind the poop

pole, people.

The Barber pole.

The Barber pole.

Or it might not be a Barber

pole.

I'm not sure.

AJ is working out with us, but

he said he's real busy with this

poopo thing.

So.

What's the size?

It's a robusto Y kind of Toro

church Lance Corona Gorda.

Right.

Doesn't matter.

It's about as big as your wrist.

What's the wrapper?

Tobacco.

Tobacco.

It's a leaf.

It's a leaf.

It's got a leaf on the outside

of it, it's a thicker leaf doing

a new thing.

We're wrapping it backwards.

When you light, it combusts.

It burns well.

All the companies lines are made

by AJ Fernandez, so you know

he's very busy.

He is very busy.

He's very busy.

Mr. All to this busy.

Now he has to run that new hotel

he just built.

Yeah.

He has a hotel down there.

Now the the headquarters that

they have rebuilt or repainted

or whatever happens to be after

the fire.

When I first saw the picture, I

thought it was a hotel.

It's huge.

If flying cars happened.

He'll have one first.

Who do you think an SLE gets the

flying car first?

AJ only.

It's definitely AJ, he gets the

flying car.

It's a flying car.

Is it a real one or a knockoff

though?

No, it's a legit legit.

So he can fly over his coral

reef and look at it.

Yeah, so nice.

Look at all the fish.

You know what, maybe you

shouldn't go to Esteli because

he might not come back.

Yeah, you gotta be careful.

He doesn't speak English.

He won't.

Even.

Yes he does.

Yeah, he speaks.

He 100% does.

Do you think or I've?

Only met him once.

Is AJ the original guy of AJ

Fernandez or was his dad?

AJ senior?

You think there was an AJ

senior?

Yeah.

Was there was there a dad

involved in this?

Well, I'm sure he had a father.

I'm sure, I'm sure Father was

involved at some point.

No, yeah, but I mean like, you

know, like like pedrone, like

the like the generational

takeover.

I'm sure that's a good question.

I'm sure there's a story there.

Yeah, let's have him on the

show.

He he doesn't like to speak in

English.

We'll have a translator.

Yeah, I'll translate.

Oh great.

That'll be so smooth.

Yeah, soon as you talk we will

MI gusta and be like, oh, he

just said he wants some lobster,

let's get it.

He wants some lobster.

From my reef.

Yeah.

All right.

On the on Matt Boots almost

here.

We're getting on his helicopter.

Let's go.

Matt Boots translate.

Yeah, he said.

He likes a lot of poopy.

He says you mount that hog like

you would any other hog.

And cigars are not aids.

Free.

No, no.

He works with AJ, He works with

AJ, He works with AJ.

So also AIDS free, right?

Oh yeah, Also AIDS free.

Yeah.

Be reasonable.

I'm sorry, yeah.

All right, time for the

industry's favorite game.

What's the?

Score.

Pause for charge.

Pause for charging.

No, no.

No, no, no, you've ruined that

bit.

You've.

Ruined that, But there are the

keys there, though, for some

strange reason.

Yeah.

All right.

Today's cigar for May 27th,

2026.

Charlie Minato Cigars, Dominican

Republic, Limited Edition.

La Aurora.

Fernando Leon, 100 Anos.

Phil. 85.

Damn, 84 is where I was going.

I was surprised at that number

for you are.

You going with 84?

Yeah, that was the number I had

already decided. 85 is where I

go and I don't know what the

cigar is.

Cigar Review The Fernando Leon

100 annios 2026 is from the

Dominican Republic factories.

La Aurora the rapper is

Cameroon.

Binder is Dominican Filler,

Brazil, Dominican Republic and

Nicaraguan, length 5 3/4 of 52.

It's a round cigar and they

smoked free.

Jack is calling, there could be

a problem.

Did you not answer your phone?

No.

We'll see if he wants to yell at

us about the Patreon.

We're good.

Let's keep.

Let's keep. 85. 84.

Once the bitterness settles

down, there's a really unique

creamy nuttiness with wood,

pepper and even some sweet

citrus and date notes that make

the cigar surprisingly layered.

85. 84.

Clue #2 construction was

excellent overall with a

fantastic burn and draw on most

samples, and the final third

delivered some enjoyable

creaminess, black pepper, sweet

floral complexity. 86.

Damn, 87?

I was going to go 86, but I'll

go 87.

The profile often becomes mushy,

salty, overly starchy at times,

with bitterness and funky

earthiness overpowering the more

refined flavors throughout much

of the experience. 85. 84.

Final thought?

Well, not as noticeable as some

of the LA Aurora's other cigars

including the Don Fernando #4.

The Cameron rapper once again

shows why it's my favorite

wrapper choice.

When blended well, I find the

Cameroon provides a natural

sweetness with a restrain

restrained amount of pepper that

is different than some of the

other sweeter wrappers like

Mexican San Andreas or even a

Connecticut Seed.

That could be as much about the

other tobaccos in the blend as

it as it is the wrapper.

But cigars like this are why I

came to the realization the

Cameroon was my favorite.

The Fernando Leon 100 Anos is a

good cigar, though with some

minor construction issues and

funkiness in the middle section

and stop it from reaching the

great category.

However, it's proved that when

Laurora avoids experimenting

with heavier tobacco's, the

company is capable of making a

full flavored Nuance blends.

When it comes to making cigars

with Cameroon, Laurora has long

been one of my top three

factories in cigars like this

show.

Why?

Lone final thought, I like

funkiness.

That was it.

I'm done.

You can.

It's the final score, actually.

I think I've smoked this.

Did you use the carrier there?

I think it's a brand new.

It's a brand.

New sheet No, no.

That's like his thing.

I think I smoked this.

Well, I remember you guys used

to carry a Cameroon La Roy. 86.

It's a good number 87.

You went the right way, 89.

Really.

An 89?

Yes.

I reign supreme.

They're really working well.

Now that was fantastic.

Yeah, I am covered in sparkers.

All right, so I got, I got

nothing else.

Boom boom boom boom boom.

Boom boom, hey hey, not too

loud.

Double.

Double.

Like.

Yeah.

Yeah, not too loud, not too loud

of it.

That's my celebration.

Yeah, I took yours.

I did mine and I took yours.

Yeah, double.

Double I will not let you win

tomorrow.

Double celebration.

Finish him.

Finish him.

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Show Notes

On today’s show FBI has arrested a high level CIA operative, we have all heard of a watch dog but have you heard of a gun dog?  Maratons Have Gone to the dogs, Don’t Talk To My Girlfriend!  SSSHHHH Judge They can hear you!, in cigars we have an update to a smoking Ban and someone is getting three new cigars!  Then as always we end the show with the industry’s favorite game What’s The Score!