ACHP 569 Arbys Is My Jam

Episode Summary

Mike Palmer, Mike Szczebankevic and Triple G open episode 569 with the launch of the new CHPod.com site and the live auction for "Phil's Mask" made by listener David Hasselhoffman, plus a preview of the Patreon episode where the crew reviews the Emma from Bull Weevil Cigars alongside Humidor Fine Cigars in Dothan, Alabama. Listener comments lead into a candid conversation about recent Half Wheel scores on Powstanie cigars — the crew explains why the 81 on the Sumatra stung far more than the polarizing SBC 24 score, since the Sumatra had previously earned a 90 as essentially the same blend, and why the SBC was intentionally built to taste like nothing else on the market. There's also a shoutout to the Powstanie event at Creekside Cigars and the limited Powstanie/Creekside hats made for it.

The news block covers a grim Walton County, Florida arrest, an Arby's bedazzled rhinestone tumbler, and Trump declaring the U.S. ceasefire with Iran over, with oil prices spiking and the Treasury pulling Iran's oil sales waiver. Cigar news runs three stories: Black Label Trading Company's Bishops Blend 2026, which marks the line's 10th anniversary by pairing the usual Ecuadorian Maduro wrapper with Connecticut Broadleaf in a barber pole, over an Ecuadorian Habano binder with Connecticut Broadleaf, Nicaraguan and Pennsylvania Broadleaf fillers in three vitolas; and Toscano releasing a larger 6 1/4 x 36 Toscanello Rosso Cafe cheroot exclusively for Canada, built heavier specifically to skirt the Canadian Tobacco Act rule banning characterizing flavors in cigars weighing 6 grams or less.

The biggest story is the lawsuit: nine cigar companies — Arturo Fuente, Ashton, CLE Cigars, J.C. Newman, Oliva, La Flor Dominicana, My Father Cigars, Padrón and Rocky Patel — are suing the U.S. government for at least $10 million in FDA user fee refunds paid between 2016 and 2023. The hosts dig into the wrinkle that many brands never paid the FDA directly; their importers did, meaning refunds have to funnel back through brokers who may want a cut for the paperwork.

The episode closes with "What's the Score?" featuring Brooks Whittington's 2012 Half Wheel review of the Mayorga Torpedo — a $4.75 Nicaraguan puro with flawless construction and burn but overwhelming bitterness and a sour finish. Guesses land in the high 70s; the actual score was a 45, second only to the crew's memory of the My Father Bat at 25.

In This Episode

1. 01
   New CHPod Site and the Mask Auction
   The crew announces chpod.com is live, with swag, a new shirt, and an auction for Phil's mask built by David Hasselhoffman.
2. 02
   Patreon Preview: Bull Weevil Emma
   A teaser for the Patreon review of the Emma from Bull Weevil Cigars and Humidor Fine Cigars in Dothan, Alabama.
3. 03
   Listener Comments and the Half Wheel Score Fallout
   Fans push back on recent reviews while the hosts explain why the Powstanie Sumatra's 81 hurt more than the SBC 24's score.
4. 04
   News: Florida Arrest, Arby's Tumbler and the Iran Ceasefire
   A disturbing Walton County animal cruelty case, Arby's bedazzled rhinestone tumbler, and Trump declaring the Iran ceasefire over as oil spikes.
5. 05
   Black Label Trading Company Bishops Blend 2026
   The 10th anniversary release adds a Connecticut Broadleaf wrapper alongside the Ecuadorian Maduro for a barber pole look in three vitolas.
6. 06
   Toscano's Canada-Only Toscanello Rosso Cafe
   Toscano builds a larger 6 1/4 x 36 cheroot to clear Canada's 6-gram flavor rule, made at La Aurora in the Dominican Republic.
7. 07
   Nine Cigar Companies Sue the FDA for $10M in User Fees
   Fuente, Ashton, CLE, J.C. Newman, Oliva, La Flor Dominicana, My Father, Padrón and Rocky Patel file suit — and the hosts explain the importer/broker complication.
8. 08
   What's the Score: Mayorga Torpedo
   Brooks Whittington's 2012 review of a perfectly constructed but bitter Nicaraguan puro that the panel badly overshoots — it scored a 45.

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Transcript

Welcome to a Cigar Hustlers Podcast, where cigars are just a starting point. Join me, Mike Palmer with Mike Szczebankevic in engineering and Triple G in the hot seat today. Here we are again. And yes, G, you are famous now.

Yeah, you're a big deal. Am I famous now? You got my text message last night? You don't have to text me at night and ask me if you're famous.

Am I famous now? Yes. Have I arrived? Have I arrived?

Now that I'm famous, do people text me that I don't know? And I said, yes, yes, they do. Who are these people? Yeah, and he's wanting to know who everybody is.

By their Instagram handles or by their YouTube handle. That's good. Now he's brought into our ecosystem. I mean, I recently found out that some of the names that you guys talk about all the time, like, I actually know personally.

Because they go by this handle. Like, I know them by their actual name. So I'm like, wait a minute. This is actually that person?

Wow, okay. Yeah, like Ruckus Unchained is mom. That's why I kept telling him. That's your mother.

I had to send him a photo. Yeah, this is what she looks like. I had to do, like, forensic Instagramming to figure out who it was. Wait, she's in town.

Yeah. She is in town. She didn't want to catch the show. -Don't talk to me.

Don't talk to me. -Why don't you like your son, Michael? What is the reason? -I love him so much.

-I love him. Just not as much as Greg. -She was so angry. I'm trying to get her into an Uber right now.

The first words out of her mouth when I get her on the phone. " -She didn't say they weren't speaking English or something. -Let's not upset the strangers while in public, Mom. Just try to take it easy.

Her testosterone level's gotta be like 1,500 or something. You know what I mean? She's the bull on parade. The bull on parade, let's be sure.

Unbelievable. Alright, as we dive into the latest cigar industry, news, sports, current events, business, and whatever crazy stories you're making headlines. Whether you're a seasoned cigar smoker or just looking for an entertaining conversation, expect honest opinions, plenty of laughs, and a few unexpected detours along the way. On today's show, hey, don't do that to your dog.

Oh, wow, that could go weird. Arby's is back in the news. Trump made it official. And then in cigars, the Godfather of Soul has a new cigar.

Bigger might just be better in this case. And let's all sue the FDA. Well, just the people on the list. I know we're all, everybody's going to.

Don't jump ahead. You're like him, you jump ahead. Sorry. Sorry.

Not to be missed, we have a mini what's the score. But first, Mikey, I hear the new CHPod site is up and the auction is going. It is. I didn't even want to tell you that until the show.

So I was like, oh, I want to tell them about the auction, but I didn't want to say anything. So, yeah. Oh, I'm saying something. I love you more.

Okay. I love you more. I'm texting my wife right now. Okay.

No, no. Okay, it is. It's official. I got the site up last night.

" That's how I felt yesterday. I was like, "Hey, can I, sir? Sir? Sir?

I'd like to fix this for us. " But you were fast asleep. It was very late. Yeah.

And, you know, I was just burning both ends of the candles. I did get up to pee around 1:00 and I saw the message and I figured he's not up now. I was still up. Oh, yeah.

This might lead into something else and I'm not that awake. Yeah. Weirdly, some people do work very, very late. " I said, "Okay, thank you.

Letting me know when they come in. " One o'clock in the morning. I mean, I'm up one o'clock in the morning, still working. , so I don't know where you're tired.

So if you're still up at one and you start at six, when do you sleep? From one to six. Sometimes I come in here and I take a 15-minute power nap. I just get that in.

Right over there in that chair? Yeah. That's what you get for the day, that's it? Yeah, then I try and get four or five hours in a night, I guess, sometimes.

I don't know. Dude, we got shit to do. I ain't got time. So busy.

Yeah. Did he order one night at 3 o'clock in the morning? Yeah, that I believe. And that's when he wakes up, so it worked out great.

Yeah, didn't he really wake me up? Yeah. But he actually placed the order, I think, at 1:30. I answered at 3, going, huh, if you're up, I'm up, buddy, here we go.

So anyways, so the site is officially up. Like and subscribe, wherever you're viewing and listening to the show. com for all your chpod swag. The auction for Phil's Mask is officially up, and it has its first bid.

Nice. It does. Very nice. So, congratulations to David Hasselhoffman, because it's his mask, and...

He's not bidding on it though, is he? No, no, no. Yes, he's buying his own mask. He's buying his own mask.

No, but what I told... Here's what I did. " Because you started the opening bid at that number. Correct.

I was gonna ask that question. Can we discuss what that number is, or is that something that we can't say on... com, check it out. All right, well, there you go.

Yeah, just look at your phone when you're not paying attention to the show. You know, so, uh, yeah, you know, just see what happens. I don't know, there's a buy now price, too, if you, if you really want the mask, and there's, you don't want to deal with anybody, and you want to let them know that you are in charge, and it's your mask, you hit the buy now button, boom, done. Can we know what that dollar amount is, or?

com and check it out. com, you can look and see. Yeah, I'm not, you got to go check. All right.

Maybe you should buy it. So thank you for, thank you to a couple of guys, actually, David Hasselhoffman, T-Money, and Julian Gordon for checking out the site and trying to place an order when the site was still down. I appreciate you guys and, you know, and thanks for letting me try and work with you to kind of get through some of the bug fixes once I got the credit card system up. There's going to be a couple of kinks, right?

There's a couple of things we're going to have to work through, but did you switch my headphones? No. Oh, no, but I have the new ones, though. Okay.

Um, you know, there's a couple things we're gonna, uh, we gotta work through, but, uh, it's operational. So, go check it out. The newest shirt, the newest shirt is on the site. Ooh.

Again, we can't talk about it. You have to go to the website. You have to look at it. You don't know what it is.

You gotta look. Just give him a hint. Give him a hint, Palmer. Tell him.

You, what, how it goes now? Oh, man. This is the, uh. You went the wrong way.

You went the wrong way. That's nice. Mm-hmm. And in case anybody's noticing, if you're watching this podcast the day that it was posted, I'm wearing this Powstanie Creekside Cigar Hat.

You want me to show you? Hold on, I'll get a little closer. Yeah, how do we have a Powstanie Creekside Cigar Hat? Boom.

Check that out. That's pretty sick. Oh. So, I made a dozen of these.

I'm going to be carrying them on me to the event. That'll be today, July 9th, at Creekside Cigars. com, uscigarhouserspodcast, and pay for the full year up front, you're gonna get 10% off. So, Patreon, we are going to be reviewing the Emma.

So, this is a cigar from a dear friend of ours, Bull Weevil Cigars, Dothan, Alabama, right? Yeah, Humidor Fine Cigars. And Humidor Fine Cigars, my good friend Steven. Steve, yeah, I know him, I like him.

Jason? Yeah, yeah. You don't know Jason. I think I've seen him.

He's met Jason, they've been in the store. I've spoken more to Steve over the years for a while. for a while we've known yeah for a long time yeah steve is steve's good dude they're a great retailer so go check them out uh we're gonna smoke the cigar we'll let you know our opinion on it dun dun maybe good i don't know um some comments from the previous show let's get into this i read a couple of these earlier today Let's see here. Oh, we're gonna go with this one off the jump.

Your mother has a question. At Ruckus Unchained, which score hurt more, the SBC 24 or the Sumatra? Greg? I really like both of those cigars.

I was upset about both of those scores. I mean, I'm smoking one of the 24 right now. You smoke it all the time. Yeah, I smoke it once a day.

It's probably my second cigar of the day every day. It's triple G for triple gangster. That's what it is. You just roll limiteds all day.

That's how you grow out of the humidor, too. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, we don't have any bundles or Segundos left. All we have is what we sell.

I'm just saying. Me and him smoke Segundos. But what's crazy is this is the second cigar of the day. Now the third cigar of the day is the Sumatra.

So I would say that I'm equally. Oh, equal. Equally. Equal.

I love you all the same. I don't think he smokes any Segundos, period. I think he's always smoking Bandit. Oh, yeah, Greg's out.

No, I smoked Segundo's of the Sumatra because we have some. Dude, the reason why he looks so tall in that chair is because his wallet's so goddamn thick. I know, he's so rich. Yeah, it's crazy.

I don't keep any money in my back pockets. Yeah, I know. That's funny. Okay, I know.

He can't because then he'd be sitting lopsided. Too bulgy, yeah. He gets back pain. You gotta be in the front pockets.

Yeah. What about you, Palmer? Which one hurts more? The SBC 24?

You're the national sales manager of Postana Cigars. You are the lead role of Cigar Hustlers podcast. You are the maker of things, marketing genius of Cigar Hustler. Thank you.

Thank you. Which one hurt more for you? Let's have mentioned regularly on Skip Martin's post on Facebook. Mentioned regularly on Skip Martin's post.

Are you really? Anything else? What did he say? Well, yesterday, there was something about AI.

People were complaining about AI and he thought, well, maybe they're complaining about Mike Palmer. And then he goes, no, it can't be him. He's actually interesting, has a hot wife, and has a lot of friends, and actually posts stuff that people want to see. And is a swinger.

What a rave review! That's awesome! Listen to all the praise. I hope you go back to your wife and you say all the nice things that we say about you as well.

Oh, I read that to her right away. " "Skip said you're hot. " Yeah. That's what you got to do.

" That way, you know, it's solidifying the fact that you're liked. Right. " Wow. Is that not true?

I didn't say that. You said that's what people think all the time. That's what somebody said to me, and I thought it was funny. It is funny.

She thinks it's hilarious. Yeah. Dude, it's just, listen, you're called BDP for a reason, right? You know what I'm saying?

You're punching up as well. Yeah, you're punching above your weight class. That's impressive. I admit that all the time.

That's impressive. And other people think the same thing. Right. I'm not denying that's the way it is.

So that's where it started. That's where it's all stemmed from is what you're saying? No, no. I just mentioned I followed up the skip compliment with your...

Ah, this is a deep-seated issue of the things that I've said to you over time. No, it's not. She finds that one quite funny, so I bring it up. The SBC was a harder one.

Really? Well, everybody likes the Sumatra, not that they didn't like the SBC, but for some reason there's more fight back with the Sumatra than it was at SBC. With the SBC, everybody's just like, ha ha, look what you guys got, but with the Sumatra, it's like, what is he, stupid, is he chasing this thing? Yeah.

Well, we're gonna break this down a little bit more on the Patreon, just so you know, I got some data here from a good friend, AI, and it's gonna be interesting. But I'm gonna tell you, it isn't really a hurt thing for me, it's more of like a disappointment when it comes to these reviews, and I'm gonna tell you, to be perfectly honest, the more disappointing one was the Sumatra. And the reason why is because, for one, it scored a 90. The catastrophic failure is the exact same cigar.

It scored the 90, right? And the second thing is, when it came to that SBC, I blended that cigar, I don't even like to say blended, I think that sounds ridiculous. When we created that cigar, I was looking for something totally way out of left field. I wanted something that was kind of twangy, that had like this different edge, that's something that, you know, for lack of better words, because this is such a frigging cliche in this industry, something that didn't taste like anything else that you've smoked in this industry.

Yeah, and it definitely does that. And that's exactly what SBC is. So, when I saw a review that was like, I don't know what the hell this is, you know, Icarus flew too close to the sun on this one, like, I was like, okay, yeah, I get it, I understood that. The Sumatra?

I have no idea. These headphones are driving me nuts, dude. Yeah, it just didn't make any sense that it hit 81, so I would say that this one was definitely way more disappointing, and you are 100% correct, this one has the most pushback, which we'll kind of get into more on the Patreon as well, because there have been some comments made to me from several people about Charlie. and um i'm gonna tell you how i handled them so oh yeah man comment one we're at 15 minutes okay uh comment two oh i heart t ggg mikey bdp phil oh everybody wow you oh you made another one i'm so busy yeah you've got busy you got three accounts look at you this is okay so i'm still leaning I'm leaning towards the side that it's Palmer.

But let's say this much. No matter who it is, it is one dude. 100%. 100%.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah, yeah. And they wrote, "Great show.

I love you all. Thank you. " Very nice of that individual. Whoever they may be.

Yeah. It could be anybody. Thank you so much, Palmer. It's very nice of you to say that.

Isn't there like a way to connect the dots, though? Like, don't they have like a profile or a photo or an email? Only if they fill it out. Oh, only if they fill it out, so you didn't fill it out, is what you're saying?

Is that what you're saying? No, you have to fill it out. I don't even know how to make any of these comments. Look, here's what I'm going to tell you.

You asked earlier today. I know, and you were explaining it to me, and I kind of got lost with it. You just need a Gmail account. Okay.

Look, here's what I'm going to tell you. If we wanted to dive really deep and figure this out, we 100% could. Yeah. What would the fun of that be?

Where would the fun be in that? You know what I mean? Like, let Palmer have his fun, right? It's not me!

Keep going on the comments though, there's more. I'm going, I'm going. I've already read all of them. You know about them, so yeah, you're definitely not writing them.

The minute they pop up, I read them. Yeah, you're definitely not writing them. No, no, it's not me. And I sent you a picture of one at 8 o'clock this morning.

You did. This is him posting his comments in the morning. Oh, this was funny. Mike, you suck.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. That would definitely be, I hate Mikey when I was doing it. Okay. At David Hasselhoffman says, site looks great.

Keep hustling, bros. Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm very excited about it. It's, it's, I mean, look, man, to be totally honest, I'm building four sites simultaneously.

And it's a ton of work. And we are really close. I wanted to put the wholesale one to bed and get that one operational. And that one's a little bit more complicated than I had anticipated because we want to add new things all the time.

It's like, oh, you know, it'd be cool if it did this. And I'm like, okay, I'll go do that. You know, so that one, that one's probably like 97% done and live and operating. And this one is officially up and I would probably call it at about 85% because it's not as complicated and it'll be fine tuning a couple of things here.

Maybe adding that Patreon section and whatever little things like that. So yeah, man, I think it does look good. Thank you very much. And I'm excited for it.

So make sure you guys check it out. Oh, I Heart Triple G. I Heart Triple G. I Heart Triple G.

I'm gonna put it on Palmer so I can watch his face. As he says, "Stop harassing my friend Triple G for the way he feels he needs to travel. " Yeah, you kept a straight face there? Did you see the fan art we got of Greg traveling through the airport?

I did not. I did not. Yes, he's got a, it looks like a jaguar, a couple of dogs, a turtle, a snake. Who made that?

CCW made that one. So you're saying CCW might be all these guys? I have no idea. It's you.

All right, it's me. I knew it. I knew it. Whatever makes you guys happy.

I knew it. I'd like somebody to post one while we're recording the show so that I... Oh, so you set a schedule for it to post? Yes, I set a schedule.

Can you even do that? Yeah. I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can.

If I only had Claude. " Oh, yeah. That'd be nice for you. A little big heart there.

Very nice. Yeah. Oh, that is nice. I like that.

Yeah. We don't have that rack anymore. I love throwing the green screen thing away. All right.

But, you know, doesn't mean we can't rig something up. We could just buy a new one. Yeah, they're not expensive. You could write it on the glass that I built and put it behind you.

I got news for you. I got, I got, I have unfortunate news for you, Mr. Palmer. Yes.

The mic you're wearing? Yes. It's working out pretty well. So you're getting another one?

I think we're going to need one for this guy. So. All right. The money's there.

Yeah. Well, just that way. You guys have money? There's no, that way there's no more bubbling.

No, at this time of the month we do. Hmm. That way there's no more bubbling. It's gone completely.

You know? Gotcha. All right. So.

Six, seven years from now, we can actually charge you rent for using the space. And that's never going to happen. No, no. We moved out.

We gave it up. Yeah. As a matter of fact, we want a portion of that rent over there because we built that out. You do get a portion of that rent.

No, no, no. We collectively as a unit. I don't think I see anything. So anyways, let's see here.

Datacash, 2004. The new website looks very nice. The Sumatra is my go-to. And have not had an issue in the two to three boxes that I have smoked.

Full wheels rates it a 96. Thank you, Danicash. That's very nice. Full wheels.

Full wheels. Full wheels. Very creative. Yeah.

You know, this is the kind of backlash that we're talking about. There's a lot of it. There's a lot of it. And thank you.

I don't know what else to say. That's incredible. We appreciate you guys all having our back. It's nice.

It is kind of nice when somebody just steps in front of you and says, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't you do that to my boys. The post I put up, the lowest score is from Skip. What's that?

I put up a post to rate the cigar yesterday. Yeah. The lowest one is from Skip at an 88. Oh.

Okay. Well, here's what I can tell you. You know, I even talked to Skip last night and he's like, are you having any issues with these? And I was like, no, because to be honest, if I did, I would tell you.

I'm like, hey, dude, this whole batch is no bueno, right? No bueno, right? But, no. So, but again, this is Patreon Conversations, I'll talk more about that later.

" So glad we were able to do that to him. There goes your butthole. That is awesome. All right.

Last one here. Well, @4KiwiG, G-Man said, new CH5 website looks good. Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate you.

And @iHeartBDP, @6383, you are not iHeartBDP. I am iHeartBDP. Mikey's, yesterday's episode was 571. Today is episode 572.

I've been an admirer of the Firing Squad ever since I saw the movie, The Executioner's Song, about Gary Gilmore. Who was Gary Gilmore? Apparently somebody was shot. That's a really, really obscure reference, even for me.

Usually I know a bunch of obscure shit. He's been around since the dinosaurs. I figured he would know. It was a dinosaur, ate the guy.

It was a dinosaur, ate the guy. It was called The Executioner. What was the title of the film? The Executioner.

Greg can go over and watch it. He likes that kind of stuff. I do like that. He likes those snuffy films.

I'm a bit of a sadist. I called him yesterday because I was having an electrical problem at my house. I FaceTimed him. He was drinking tea.

" Like in a tea cup? It was in a bottle. No, it was a bottle of tea. It was like sweet tea.

Oh. We were in Louisiana, and I decided to have a sweet tea there. I'm like, "You know what? I haven't had this for a while.

I remember this. I like this. " We went shopping yesterday to pick some up off the shelf while eating dinner. I had a tea.

My brother thought because it was dark outside I was drinking scotch. I wasn't. That wasn't what I was saying. Scotch in a tea bottle?

That wasn't what I was saying. What were you saying? " Oh, I see. All of it.

Have you seen the new Sprite tea? That's pretty good. No, I haven't tried that. That's good.

Let's give that a shot. If you want to hear your comment right aloud on the show, comment below and we may read it aloud. And we're entering to win this cool cup that we don't have right now in front of us, a stinky ashtray. It's going to be one of the four logos of Powstanie.

So comment below and you'll be entered to win. And CW, even though you did eight comments, the one counts. Just the one. Just one entry.

And not your iHeartBDP ones, just so you know. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

We moving on? All right, on with the show. Now the news. Dufouniak Springs, man arrested after he caught on a home camera having sex with his dog.

Oh, that's awful. Oh, what type of dog? It did go that way. That's the way it went.

I was joking about it being potentially really bad. Washington County, Florida, a man is facing two counts of felony sexual contact with an animal after he has seen a video of having sex with the family dog. This morning, a witness came to the Walton County Sheriff's Office to report they had seen the axe on the home's camera system. The witness told deputies they had brought the outdoor camera system inside to charge on Tuesday morning, and then when they left the home, they received a motion notification from the camera.

camera. That's when the witness noticed 75-year-old Gary Lee Denison. 75 and still pumping. Nude from the waist down, having sex with the female dog while seated in a recliner inside the home.

Inside the home? Inside the home. He's going to bang it outside? Be reasonable.

What are we doing? These are outside cameras. He brought them in to charge them. So they're not normally in the house.

But it's his camera. Well, it sounds like this is somebody else in the house reported him, reported grandpa doing the movie. Yeah, it sounds like he's 75 and he's being... Inappropriate with Fifi the poodle or something.

No, it sounds like he's being watched over. Ah, I see, okay. I mean, if I'm reading it like this, that's how I interpret it at least, you know? Well, at the Walton County Sheriff's Office, the witness got another notification to which she was able to actively show Denison again engaging in sexual acts with the animal.

So she's at the police station telling them what happened. Look, you can watch it live. " Wow. Hey, look officer.

Not only is he going at it at 75, but it's multiple times a day. Was the dog screaming? I think they're keeping the dog's name and what type as a secret to protect it. To protect the identity of Lassie.

Protect the identity of the pooch. Deputies and office of the City of Marshall Springs Police responded to Denison's home off Twin Lakes Drive, where he was taken into custody. The dog was brought to the Walton County Animal Shelter for medical evaluation. Yeah, no kidding.

This is pretty sick, bro. Denison is charged with two counts of sexual contact with an animal. He was transported and booked into the Walton County Jail where he is awaiting first appearance. What happens to this guy?

What do you think the penalty is for sexually assaulting a dog? I'm sure there's something written down somewhere. It's gotta be bad, bestiality or something. That one I don't, I'm unfamiliar with, yeah, sorry.

Domestic violence, I know plenty about, but other fucking dogs can't do it. Not fucking dog in the house. I draw a line somewhere. You think it's worse that he was in the house?

Yeah, you were surprised it was in the house. You know what, it could actually be domestic violence, if they're all within the same family unit. It could be a crime against the state. Oh, well that would be terrible.

This is why we should bring back psych wards. What happens? Let me ask you. Let me ask you.

Silly question. What does the baby look like? Hold on. Stop this up.

Bob, she's coming into town. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Where are you going with this?

You got that big dog. You got that big dog. You got Axel's dog, right? Oh, God.

Right? This makes me feel uncomfortable. Yeah, that's what this podcast is about, baby. That's what this podcast.

What kind of dog does Axel have? You walk in. It's like a pit bull mix. It's a lab pit mix.

So he's a big black dog. Great. He's a blue. He's a beautiful puppy.

I mean, he's not a puppy, but he's full grown. Let's be reasonable. Some would call him handsome. Yeah.

You know what I mean? And, you know, mom, Bob, she persuades this dog and you walk in on it. What do you do? What do you do?

What is wrong with you with this question? Listen, I just want to know. What would you do? You bring a butter missing out of the kitchen, and you walk in.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, no, she's not allowed to stay there anymore. It's done. Yeah.

Do you report her? Do you report her to the police? Well, so now, you gotta ask yourself that question, because, you know, there are other circumstances where, like, if it's a male teacher and it's a female student, wrong. But, if it's a male student and it's a female teacher, eh, like, people have that perspective, because of the fact that now the dog is male and the grandma is now a grandma.

What does that have to do with your mother? Yeah, why are you trying to get us off this conversation? That's a real question. I don't know.

What I'm saying is the sex of the animal may actually sway the opinion of the animal. Well, I mean, if it's a peanut butter thing, it could be a female or male, though. This is a very dark conversation. It is.

It's so fucked. It's very weird. Can't wait to make the thumbnail. Oh, God.

We should just delete that entire scene. By the way. No, no, no, we don't delete that. By the way, by the way, did you know that of like the past two weeks, the views that are the highest are the ones of me and you without him?

Oh, that show, yeah, that Friday, the Monday show. Yeah, isn't that weird? It's 'cause of Jax. Was that like a roundabout?

Yeah, you're right, I'm with you. Jax did it. Jax was only on one of those shows, buddy. Jax did it.

Well, that's the only one that's going high is the one from Monday, the one that shows the two pictures of you and him next to each other? No, sir. Did I tell you that Ronnie called me and told me he had like this big sports reference that like, what was the old Pat's? Yeah, he called me and did the same thing.

Belichick, right? Belichick, yeah, yeah. " These are Ronnie's words. I mean, ad-libbed, of course.

Well, here's what happens. Here's what happens with Ronnie, okay? Ronnie, by the way, is a great retailer. His store is called Secreto Cigars up in Ferndale, Michigan.

So, you should definitely check him out. He doesn't expect you to tell anybody what he says to you, right? Because he called me and he told me that I was Brady. Okay.

Yeah? Oh, because he called me and told me I was Brady. See, and he told him. This is amazing.

See what I mean? You were Belichick in my version also. This is amazing. By the way...

Oh, by the way, he's calling me now. Oh, that would be perfect. Oh, great. He's calling me right now.

Oh, this is awesome. I can't answer this. Just let him know that we're on the show, he has four minutes. Because Ronnie will take a while.

We are podcasting. I just want to tell you guys I love you. I want to say, Mr. Palmer, you are the greatest thing since peanut butter and jelly.

This show is nothing without you. Greg, if you're there, if you can hear me, I would put you in the number two spot. And if there's a person on this show that I think should be deported, it'd be Mike. It'd be Mike, because of his personality, it's drab in comparison to you.

I can't, yes, I would love to go. I will go quietly. Who's Tom Brady? He's a quarterback.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, see, see, see, get you some championship, one of the best that ever did it. See? If they're gonna say anything different than that, I don't want to talk about nothing. There you go.

Okay. Bye bye. Bye bye, love you, bye bye. Bye bye.

By the way, when I took his call, I was in the car with my wife, the call obviously was at length, right? Because when you speak to Ronnie it takes time. Minimum 20. Minimum.

Minimum. I think you may be giving grace there. So I get done, I hang up the phone. Now, keep in mind, my wife heard everything I said and some of what he said because of the volume of the phone.

" He told that story on yesterday's show. Did he? Yeah, you told that story yesterday. No, I didn't tell it on the show.

No, I wasn't on the show. No. It wasn't on the show? I told it to you off of the show.

I told you, we can't talk anymore. See, that's what happens, you can't talk anymore. Can't talk anymore. When you say it, I'm confused, I don't know what's going on.

Okay, so, keep your, I just want to know, if somebody does something to my dog, that's a problem. Like, you know, I'm not, we're not reporting anybody. You're not reporting anybody, you're just gonna tell the other dog. I'm beating, yeah, right?

What if Bubbles had a good time? No. What if it was Bubbles? " You like the peanut butter?

Let's get the peanut butter. Let me open the cabinet for you. Bob Schke, come on, peanut butter, Bob Schke, peanut butter. You guys are so twisted.

You brought it up! I didn't cover the news. It's just a story, I can just cover the stories. We want to now add bestiality to the list of the "no things" we should speak about on this show.

Well, we'll see after tomorrow. It'll be flagged. It'll be flagged. I did not mention that word.

Some of our ads are pretty weird, by the way. I got an ad-- there was an ad-- Boy, there's so many of them. Yeah, there was an ad for, like, this portable AC unit thing. Like, oh, NASA engineers have re-engineered this thing.

I was like oh that sounds awesome I go and click the link and I'm like okay and it's supposedly cooling and stuff I was like alright well here's what I'm going to do now I'm going to take this and I'm going to stick it into Claude and I'm going to ask its opinion about it and go is this legit and they said it's a fan it is a fan I was like oh my god and this is okay on you this is the kind of stuff you're doing YouTube what are we doing they pay they don't care so you guys get paid for the ads is that how that works that's correct yeah it's correct yeah we're one of the only people in the industry to get paid you want to know why because we don't mention any place that you can go purchase online we don't oh yeah zero it's not much it is not much but we are like 50 bucks it didn't pay for the watch that's a new watch by the way that's a different watch this is a different watch today but this watch is 15 years old i see this is uh the first christmas rose my wife ever got me oh very nice it's in the rotation you're Did you ever stop looking at my wife wife? Yeah, stop looking at my wife. I had to tell Skip that yesterday. Stop looking at my wife.

Stop looking at my wife. Arby's just released a bedazzled tumbler. Hmm. What?

You know what a tumbler is? Wait, who released it? Arby's. Arby's.

Arby's. Does it come with the herpes? It does not. It comes with a herpes shield.

It comes with a herpes shield. It's a shield tumbler. Oh, it's perfectly good. Grab and go before it sells out.

Your water bottle might be getting glamorous upgrade. In a glamorous upgrade, Arby's is giving fans a sparkly new way to stay hydrated with the launch of the bedazzled Arby's tumbler, 20 ounce rhinestone covered cup featuring the fast food chain's instantly recognizable logo. Alright, get me out of this one, we're at 34 minutes anyways, go ahead, fast forward, I mean we're talking about a tumbler, we just transitioned from a dog situation, a really bad dog situation, to a cup. Trying to light things up, going the other way.

Going the other way. I mean, what is going on? Oh, Lord. They had herpes last week, so I'm trying to, you know, put them back in their life.

Tying it all in. I get it. I see what your vision was. I'm just saying, we gotta go.

We gotta go. S. S. ceasefire with Iran is over.

Back to war. Back to war. We're done with that. During a joint press conference with NATO, Chief Mark Rutte, R-U-T-T-E, at the Military Alliance Summit in Anakan, Turkey on Wednesday.

S. ceasefire with Iran was over. He said, "To me, I think it's over. I don't want to deal with them anymore.

" He added that the Washington delegation wanted to negotiate a peace deal, but that he saw it as a waste of time dealing with the Iranian side. S. military conducted strikes against Iran in retaliation for three commercial vessels Transiting the Straits of Hormuz, coming under attack on Tuesday, Washington warned at the time that Tehran would face heavy costs for targeting commercial ships. Strikes are in response to Iranian attacks on three commercial vessels that were transitioning, oh, I guess I said that twice.

The Department of the Redundancy Department. War, no war, war, no war. Right. All right, so yeah.

S. Treasury Department on Tuesday withdrew a waiver that allowed Iran to sell oil. They can't sell their oil anymore. Yeah, but what does that mean, right?

So we globally say that they can't sell oil. Right. So if they sell it to another country, what do we do? Well, we grab the ship when it tries to leave with it.

Not like they can mail the oil to them. Right. We will take this boat. We will take the boat?

Iran will only reap benefits if they exhibit good behavior. Ah. Only if they're good boys. If you'll be a good boy.

Listen, I think you had the press release going in the background when he was talking or something, when he was in front of media or whatever. Oh, upstairs? Yeah, some of the stuff. I mean, you can't make this stuff up that comes out of this guy's mouth.

It is hilarious. Yeah, he's talking about the line he was talking about. We have satellites that are so good we can read their name tags, they go in, they inspect, we see the name tag, it says Mohammed something. He says Mohammed something.

Yeah. I was like, what? Oh, my God. We instantly started barrel laughing.

It was so funny. They have to behave like they're small children. They must behave or we're going to shoot them. Leader of the free world, ladies and gentlemen.

Leader of the free world. I guess he got a guy to play on the American team in the soccer game yesterday. Yeah, he did that too. He got the red card receded.

He got the red card receded. Didn't do a whole lot. I would like him to play. Can we do that and like him to play?

I mean, allegedly. Like, who knows the real story, because supposedly FIFA was going to do it anyways, or whatever, like, the call was kind of questionable, so they upheld the call, but suspended the red card or something like that, and to be perfectly honest, if I'm Belgium, I wanted that anyways, because there's no way that I wanted to merc a team without having, give me your best, give me your best. Yeah, don't want to be able to say, well, if that guy was there, it would have worked out well. Yeah, with an asterisk.

It would have been completely different. Right, right. All right, cigar news. Ready for cigar news?

Cigar news. Black Label Trading Company Bishop's Blend 2026 heads to stores to celebrate the 10th anniversary of the release of the Bishop Blend Black Label Trading Company has added a second wrapper for the 2026 release. On top of the original wrapper? Let's read on.

Let's read on. The Black Label Trading Company Bishop Blend 2026 pairs the Ecuadorian Maduro wrapper that is typically used for the cigar with a Connecticut Broadleaf wrapper. Creating a unique look known as a Barber Pole. Oh, what an interesting term!

Interesting idea. The two wrappers have an intertwined appearance that looks like a Barber's Pole. So glad Half Wheel explained this to all unless we understand. Well, I mean, you know, there are probably some new cigar smokers and maybe they don't know what it means.

Maybe they thought they got a haircut with it. Who knows? Underneath is an Ecuador and Habano binder in Connecticut broadleaf. Nicaraguan, and Pennsylvania Broadleaf Fillers.

It's offered in three Vitolas, there are 800 boxes of the Robusto and Corona Lago, but just 650 boxes of the Lancero. Who's this again? Who did this? Black Label Trading.

Oh, okay. James Brown, the Godfather of Soul. Yeah. Right.

Hi! Hiya! Toscano! Toscano?

Toscano. Toscano releases a... Toscano. Toscano.

Toscano releases a larger Toscanello Rosso Cafe as a Canadian exclusive. This was for John McTavik. Just for Canada. Just for the cigar surgeon.

I heard the price for steak in Canada is like super high right now. Why is that? No cows. No cows?

No cows. They can eat the moose. No moomoo. Price of the moose go down.

I mean, they're huge. One of them can feed a whole village to the city or something. Have the moose. They released a larger version of the Toscanello Rosset Cafe as an exclusive for Canadian retailers.

The cafe is a six and a quarter by 36 cheroot and made with an Italian-grown Kentucky seed wrapper, while the filler is a blend of Kentucky and Italian tobaccos infused with coffee and espresso, as is the case with the Toscanello Rosso Cafe Macchiato that was released in 2013. The new cigar has a sweetened cap. The cigars are being made at the La Aurora Cigar Factory in the Dominican Republic. - Is it like maple syrup?

Is that the cap? - I don't know, it doesn't say. - Well then why is it just for Canada? - Because they like this apparently, I don't know.

- They like maple syrup? - Well, yes, that's where you get it. - So they put it on the cigar? - It'd be like, you know, something with oranges could come from Florida.

- So they made orange-dipped cigars for us? - Yes. - How do you feel about that, Craig? - Orange.

- Did you buy them? You should buy them. - If you walked in on Bobshee with oranges. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. What's wrong with that? Have fun. Or this rather large, ill-shaped cigar.

Yeah. Okay. Sweet-dipped. Sweet-dipped.

My God. Extra. This is horrible. In an email, Ryan O'Shea, Marketing and Communications Coordinator for Toronto-based Shriveler's House of Horvath, told Hathwheel that the new larger cigar was created by Toscano to comply with regulatory amendments to The Canadian Tobacco Act, that took effect 2015.

So I guess maybe there's a law that you can't do a little cheroot? No smarts, nothing small. Maybe they don't consider it a premium cigar. Because it's a little?

Because it's a little. So now they made a bigger one. Yeah. Well, we need a bigger cheroot.

A bigger one. Not now, now there's a big one. Not anymore, now there's a big one. Not anymore, it's a Canadian big one.

And we call that one Robusto. Those amendments include a language that barred characterizing flavors in all cigars weighing 6 grams or less. Ah. There it is.

Which means Toscano needed to create a heavier cigar to sell in Canada. So heavy. So heavy. According to O'Shea, each cigar is priced at $775.

Oh, $775, sorry. Well, $775. But after Canadian taxes, it's $775. If you do the exchange rate, it's $775.

Minimum $800. In freedom dollars. It's $800. What we did was we took a cheroot and we tied a paperweight to it and now it's above regulation.

The cigars were released yesterday in Canada. That would have been the day before yesterday. Okay, great. Yay.

Nine cigar companies sue for more than $10 million in FDA user fee refunds. This is a big deal. This is a very big deal. This is the, yes.

This is the biggest deal. This is the biggest deal. This is the biggest deal. This is the biggest deal.

This is the biggest deal. As long as they all behave, they might get the money. As long as they all behave. We have cameras in satellites and we can see their names on their name tags.

We can see the names on the boxes. Yes. Yes. MSNOW?

Why do you call it MSNOW? That's a terrible place. What are you doing on MSNOW? First name tag we saw, something Patel.

We don't carry his stuff anyway. S. have filed a lawsuit seeking refunds from the user fees that companies paid to the FDA between 2016 and 2023. S.

government seeking at least $10 million in refunded user fees and interest. C. Newman, Oliva Cigar Company, La Floridomenicana, My Father Cigars, Padrón, Rocky Patel Premium Cigars, He's a rookie. Eight of the nine all but CLE are members of the Cigar Rights of America Board.

Right, I knew he was on there, that's why. They might get their money back first. Well, no, they're going to get their money back. You think so?

Yeah, I think so. Why is that? Because they haven't spent it yet. The FDA hasn't spent it yet?

Correct, it's still sitting there. Sitting in escrow? Yeah. So we got like 20 bucks coming is what you're saying?

No, no, no. We would also have to pursue them for it. We would have to sue them for it. How so?

Like, why would we have to pursue them? If they say, yeah, you're right, we owe you this, and then why wouldn't they release it to the other people? Maybe it's such a precedent. Maybe we do have access to it.

I don't know. But I know that we're just not included in that group right now because we're not filing a lawsuit. But if they win, we're going to need a lawyer. Maybe.

And he's going to take at least half. Probably. To get our money back. If you have an attorney, he's probably taking half.

There's a problem. Tell me about the problem. I should have been an attorney. Many cigar companies that paid user fees did not pay those fees to the government.

Those user fees are only assessed to companies that are either importers or domestic manufacturers of these products. Many cigar companies, including some of the largest handmade cigar companies and some of the largest handmade cigar factories, do not always serve as their own importer. 100% correct. The majority of the time, the importer is the one that is technically paying it for the brand.

Right. So you mean to tell me that these guys didn't think that through? No. I'm sure that they can wind up getting together with the broker and saying that you're going to pay us.

Through them, the same way that we wound up getting a refund for the tariff thing. Right. But the tariff's back on, right? I think right now it's 10%.

Yeah, it's a different tariff. Yeah, so because that was deemed legal because it was blanketing. Right. Oh, I'm sorry, sorry.

Sorry. Okay. So these other companies are officially the ones who paid the user fees to the government even if those fees were passed on but funded by the clients. This will be a potential added layer of intrigue for the refund process, because it is ultimately up to the company that paid the government to go through the legal process of getting the refunds.

That's true. Now, if they wind up receiving those funds, it's a fair amount of money, right? Ten million dollars. Millions of dollars, right?

Ten million. Right. But let's say you're the broker and I'm Rocky Patel, okay? " No, I can't do accents.

Come on. No, that's what the broker said to him. But at that point, I'm not doing business with you anymore, so you're going to cut off that stream of revenue because- I got $10 million. I don't have to give you anything.

It's myopic. That's foolish thinking. So how do the company sue if they're not the ones who gave the money? They're suing the FDA for money that they didn't give them.

Right. They're going to have to wind up getting involved with the broker and the payout would have to funnel from the United States to the broker. Doesn't the broker have to sue the FDA? Just let them finish, Palmer.

I don't know. But they definitely need to get involved in it, that's for sure. Because they're the ones that technically paid it. Right.

Well, you don't think that the broker is going to say, "Hey, you know what? I need like 25 points on this. " Well, I think what's fair is if they have to work at all to acquire those funds for the brand. Like send a piece of paper in?

Well, whatever it may be. It's probably a little bit more complicated than that. Let him finish, Michael. To be fair.

I caught him between sentences. There should be like a processing fee. That's fair. A lawyer fee?

Does it mean the broker's gonna have to hire a lawyer? Potentially. Well, yeah, that just comes right off the top. What do you think a processing fee should be for $10 million?

8 million. I want 8. You want 8 million? Yes.

I don't know. It would be nominal. Not more than 5. Million?

Half? Half. Oh, you just said five. You said five.

We thought you'd take half. Five points. Yeah. So half a million.

sure after user fees yeah and costs of doing business yeah attorney fees i'm sorry yeah wild well if they have look if you have to work you can't work for free it's going to cost time you have employees that you have to pay people have to submit these documents there's back and forth back and forth emails that have to be rented so i mean like if you touch it you have to make money how dare you say that in front of palmer i was about to say where was it 10 years ago you - You have to work, you have to, if you work, you have to, can't do it for free? - He gets paid, what are you talking about? - Now! - Now he's gonna want reparations.

- When were you doing something free? - For the eight years before this. - What, wait, first of all, when you were doing social media, I put you on payroll. - Yes, yes.

- And, regardless if you were here or not, you were being paid for doing social media. - Well, not if I was here or not, I had to punch in and out. - Okay, but while you were working, you were paid. - Yeah.

- So tell me about the times that you were working that you weren't paid. All the other times before that. When? Always!

What are you talking about? I would run the register, I would help out at events. How long? How does he not remember me working for three years?

How long were you running the register before we put you on the clock? My brain's getting a little fuzzy as well. I mean, to be fair, we're talking about a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, we are talking about a long time ago.

Okay, from the instant you guys went to-- when did you first make the cigars? It was 10 years ago? About 10 years ago, yeah. Okay, well, starting with the trip where you guys went to Nicaragua and I ran the show.

We didn't pay you for that time? I don't believe so. You definitely got paid for that. I highly doubt that.

I'm not that type of a person. There's no records of that anyway. Yeah, you definitely got paid for that. It's fun to joke with you, but apparently we struck a nerve.

No, you didn't struck a nerve. Well, we definitely struck a nerve with Triple G, because he doesn't like to not pay somebody. 100%. I go out of my way to make sure that all debts are paid.

And keep track in my head who owes us money, too. Well, I don't owe you money. No. Oh, well, breaking cigar news, Palmer being sued for 10 million from Cigar Hustler.

You gotta talk to my broker. You gotta talk to my broker. I didn't touch that money. It wasn't mine.

It wasn't mine. It wasn't mine, but I went 5% if you get some back. Oh, that's awesome. Meanwhile, I don't even have access to bank accounts.

For any company. Neither one of these two yahoos, just for the record. Well, I just made you a super admin and I'm not even sure what that is. For Credit Card Processing.

What's a super admin? That's slightly above admin. I know, I think I'm just an admin. I might not have access anymore.

He gets to wear a cape. He gets to wear a cape. That's exactly what happens. I come in with a cape now.

I mean, I saw that option and I'm like, well, that's what he asked for. Click. Yep. And look, now the sights up.

Try it. Okay. All right. Ashton Shipsy, San Cristobal, Golden Hour.

Creased the ball. That's the cigar I wanted to try at the show. I tried the show, and they wouldn't give me one, so we're not talking about it. Perfect.

Moving on. Screw 'em. I'm done. I'm cool with that.

Next. I asked nicely and everything. Hey, I want to try this cigar. Now guess what?

Eat us. Oh, we don't know if we have enough. Come back. When I came back, they avoided me.

So, huh? Forget it. They're direct to consumer. They're deep discount anyways.

We don't care. Time for the industry's favorite game. What's the score? Much better.

Much better. Triple G. Palmer, you got to work on that a little bit. : How was I off?

: I said it's louder than anybody. : No, you were like this, though. You were like this. : Like it was even.

: No, I didn't. : It was even. : It was not. : I do the entire show this way.

: Players, share clues from a Half Wheel Cigar Review and try to predict the score before it's revealed. As more details are shared, the challenges get easier. Or does it? See that inflection?

There was inflection. : That was nice. : The closest guess to the actual score wins the round. Can you read between the lines and predict the score?

Let's play What's the Score? Today's Cigar, February 5th, 2012. What year? February 5th, 2012.

2012. 2012, over there in 2012. Brooks Whittington. Who reviewed it?

Brooks Whittington. Who reviewed it? Brooks. Brooks Whittington.

Brooks. Brooks Whittington. The only one who should be reviewing Poissana Cigars. The Mayorga...

Mayorga Torpedo. He was the original reviewer of the "Catastrophic Failure", wasn't he? I believe so. Indeed, he was.

I believe so. We would like him to review the... Moving forward. Yes, all of our cigars moving forward.

Solo Brooks. We would like, yes, we'd like to do a single wheel. Single wheel. By Brooks, what did he do?

His own web. Dude, I could tell you the stats as to who, which guy gives the most highest rating on average across the board from half wheel. All right, next. Yeah, but that's the Patreon.

They have over 4,000 reviews on their site, and yet somehow, some way, you have managed to give us the same review twice on this show, which is incredible. 4,000. Some of the names and scores I like. Nobody remembers.

I mean, we don't. Well, T-Money remembers. Well, somebody's probably logging them. Okay.

All right. I'll go first, I guess, because I didn't go first last time. So, 86. 86.

Is Mallorca even around anymore? I don't think so. The country or the cigar? The cigar.

I have no idea. 88. It's the Mallorca Torpedo from Nicaragua. The factory is Sergovia Cigars.

Isn't that where the Avengers fought? Yes, that's exactly what happened. That's where the Avengers fought. By the way, that company emails me every friggin' week.

The Avengers? Segovia's. 75. Greg, what was the year?

2012. What was the name of the cigar? Mayorga. Mayorga Torpedo.

Oh, okay. Who reviewed it? Brooks. Oh, okay.

And they only smoked one of these amazing cigars. Did you say four and change a stick? Six. 75.

Four. Four and change a stick? 75. That's in 2012.

And they only got one. Things were tight back then. Super rare. Extremely.

Yeah, nothing's changed. You go ahead. 86. Nothing's changed.

88. Clue number one. The Mayorga's construction was exceptional from beginning to end. The burn stayed razor sharp, the draw was consistently effortless, and it never required any touch-ups, making it an easy and enjoyable cigar to smoke from a performance standpoint.

86. 88. Clue number two. Even though the flavor profile was lacking, the cigar impressed with excellent smoke production.

Yeah, right? I think he's having a stroke. Yeah, you're at clue number two and you're already striking at this thing. Well, I don't write these.

I know. I know. Excellent smoke production and surprisingly pleasant aroma. The sweet wood notes on the aroma were far more enjoyable than the flavors themselves - 84.

- Yeah, I'm going down to 85. 84. Yeah, I'm going down to 85. Clue number three, the overwhelming bitterness that appeared immediately after lighting never truly went away, and by the final third, it was joined by a sour aftertaste.

With very little flavor development or complexity throughout the smoke, it became difficult to find much enjoyment beyond the excellent construction. Filthy carpet. Boy, this thing's made great. Tastes like shit.

Made great. If this thing is higher than a fucking 81, I swear to Christ, it tasted like ass, but man, it burned well. 79. Yeah, I was going to go that number.

I'm going to say 79 too. Final thought. I knew almost nothing about the Mayorga before it was handed to me to review. However...

I regret. The cigar smoked like exactly what it was. A 15-year-old smoke that was expired. It really was a tale of two cigars.

While the construction and draw were absolutely wonderful, the overwhelming bitterness in a profile destroyed any chance that I was going to taste another flavor note. Destroyed. In fact, pretty much the only good thing about the Majorga other than the aforementioned burn and draw was that it burned very quickly for the size and thus was over quicker than I expected. Oh my god.

Best part of the cigar was it burned fast. Best part, I didn't have to fucking smoke it for a long time. 77. Wow, that's pretty good right there, Mike.

Hmm. 76. You went the right way. 45.

Oh my god. Oh my god. That is terrible. 45.

Wow. 45. Damn. Is that the lowest score?

No. Oh, wow. No. We did the bat is the lowest one and it was 25.

25? The My Father Bat. The My Father Bat. But to be fair, it's not supposed to smoke.

Yeah, they're like, you smoked that? Why would you smoke that? Oh, it's shaped like a bat? It's shaped like a bat and you're not supposed to smoke it.

Yeah, it's like art. And they say that in the review. Now, you're not supposed to smoke this, but we did. It sucks.

It was terrible. It was terrible. That makes sense. Best thing about this cigar?

We shouldn't have smoked it. We shouldn't have smoked it. Do we get an update to our trip? Update the trip.

Update to our trip to the factory? Not yet. But I'll tell you what. You have nothing today.

I will start working on that today. I will fit that in after I go to the banks. All right. He's going to the banks.

He's going to the banks. He's got to go get more money. He's got to even out the wallet. He's noticing as he's sitting there, it's a little lopsided.

I got to go get some more money for this side because there's too much in this side. I'm not rich. He can't take this out. He just wants more in the other pocket.

Look at that shirt. " I'm rich. I'm rich. Shiny.

Drove one of his seven cars up here today. I don't have seven cars. I like the fact that you guys talk about all the watches you have. It's amazing.

I have no idea what time it is. Because you don't wear a watch, because it gives you anxiety. No, that was my Apple Watch. That was a watch you had?

Like Series 1. You have an Apple Watch? I used to. I don't have an Apple Watch.

They're too small. It's worth like 50 bucks. You want it? Do you still have it?

Probably. $45. I'll sell it to you. $25.

It's going to go on auction. 10. Put it on the site. So are you able to do two masks at the same time on the auction?

Yes, I am able to do two masks. However, I just wanted to make sure everything is all working perfectly. And just so you know, as of right now, the auction is... We could just do the one at a time.

Do the one of the month prior as he wears it through the month. The next one. I don't know. We'll see.

We'll see how this goes. This means we sit on it for 30 days. Right now, current bid is only 35 bucks. Oh, wow.

So, now's the time to get into it. I have the Eyes Wide Shut mask, too, still, if you want to get rid of that one, but it's pretty thin, it's not a real mask. No, we're gonna keep it, just, we're gonna roll through with, David Hasselhoffman's are really nice. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, the preview for the next one is amazing.

Yeah, so. They just keep getting better. It's leveling up his game, you know? I presume it'll be an Iron Man type mask that goes on and talks to you.

Oh, nice. That one's gonna be more than 30 bucks. well I mean he sets the he sets the line okay anything else to add Mr. com a cigar hustlers podcast and make sure you listen to this patreon this patreon is going to be a good one and thank you very much gentlemen for your time today Mr.

Triple G Nick. Nick. And Mr. Palmer.

Certainly. Alright, hit it. Alright, we gotta go, bye.

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Hey Don’t do that to your dog!  Arby’s is back in the news…..Trump made it official!  And then In cigars  Godfather of Soul has a new cigar!  Bigger might just be better in this case and Lets all Sue the FDA!  Not to be missed we can Whats The Score Minie Thursday Game!