ACHP 576 We Have The Secret.....Maybe?

Episode Summary
Episode 576 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast has Mike Palmer joined by co-host "Triple G" and engineer Phil McGuffey for the usual mix of off-the-rails news banter and genuine cigar industry coverage. The front half runs through the grim conclusion of the Florida alligator attack story (DNA and bite-mark matching to a 13-foot gator in Seminole County), the Taco Bell/Taylor Farms shredded lettuce cyclospora outbreak and whether 1,600 cases nationwide is really news, a Blue Angels-style low flyby over the Panhandle, and a long riff on Tom Holland's comments that the title of Spider-Man: Brand New Day refers to the film's final frame — complete with an AI-generated prediction of the ending and a detour into who played the best Batman.
The cigar news segment covers the release of E.P. Carrillo's Encore Noir II from Casa Carrillo — an all-Nicaraguan blend in a 6 1/8 x 50 "Celestial No. 2" (torpedo/pyramid) vitola, limited to 1,500 boxes of 10 made at the company's Dominican factory, aimed primarily at international markets. Two Hundred fifty boxes are heading to Two Guys Cigars in New Hampshire for a launch weekend on July 24–25 with both Ernesto Perez-Carrillo Jr. and Ernesto Perez-Carrillo III in attendance, at roughly $17 per cigar. The hosts use it as a jumping-off point to discuss why U.S. brands are increasingly chasing international markets — and why smoking bans make those markets tricky.
That leads into regulatory news: following the UK's generational tobacco ban, Ireland's Minister of Health Jennifer Carroll MacNeill confirmed a generational ban is among the measures under consideration in the review of Tobacco Free Ireland. Cigar Rights of America has also flagged a similar recommendation in France (banning purchase by anyone born after 2009), with the Green Party previously pushing a 2014 cutoff. The hosts argue that cigar consumption isn't what's driving the health statistics, point out that New Zealand repealed its ban while the Maldives kept one, and make the case that bans simply push sales to the black market.
The show closes with "What's the Score?", the Half Wheel review guessing game. This round covers Charlie Minato's July 16, 2026 review of the Arturo Fuente Opus X Templo de Oro No. 8 (6 1/8 x 55, Tabacalera A. Fuente, all components undisclosed). Clues include layered wood, earth, cream, nuttiness, vanilla, coffee, ginger and candy notes, medium-full strength, and unpleasant pre-light "pond water and vinegar" aromas plus burn issues on one sample. Minato's verdict: a slightly tamed-down Opus X not worth chasing at a premium. Final score: 90 — guessed exactly by Greg. Also mentioned: an upcoming private dinner with San Cristóbal (San Lotano/"San Parai" as transcribed) in the shop's private lounge and the new La Flor Dominicana Carbon Flower going up for sale.
In This Episode
- 01Florida Alligator Attack Follow-UpFWC matched DNA and bite marks from the Brittany Clark attack in Little Big Econ State Forest to a 13-foot alligator, after two 12-footers were ruled out.
- 02Taco Bell, Taylor Farms and the Cyclospora OutbreakShredded iceberg lettuce from Taylor Farms is linked to more than 1,600 cyclospora cases across the Midwest, prompting Taco Bell to pull lettuce nationwide.
- 03Spider-Man: Brand New Day Title TheoryTom Holland says the title refers to the movie's final frame, and the hosts run an AI prediction of the ending plus a detour into Batman casting debates.
- 04E.P. Carrillo Encore Noir II ReleaseCasa Carrillo's all-Nicaraguan Encore Noir II, a 6 1/8 x 50 Celestial No. 2 limited to 1,500 boxes of 10, launches internationally with 250 boxes going to Two Guys Cigars.
- 05Ireland and France Eye Generational Tobacco BansIreland's Health Minister confirms a generational ban is under consideration, while CRA warns of a similar French proposal targeting anyone born after 2009.
- 06What's the Score? Opus X Templo de Oro No. 8The crew guesses Charlie Minato's Half Wheel score for the Arturo Fuente Opus X Templo de Oro No. 8, landing on the actual 90.
- 07Shop News and PlugsAn upcoming private brand dinner in the lounge, the new La Flor Dominicana Carbon Flower going online, and the ongoing auction for Phil's mask.
Brands & Cigars Discussed
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Transcript
Hello peoples, three, two, it gets longer and longer, one, I love the One of his eyes is completely concealed by that mask. Action! Every day, that intro gets longer and longer. Good lord.
Welcome to a Cigars Are Podcast, where cigars are just a starting point. Join me, Mike Palmer is your host, and back by popular demand as the co-host, we have the ever popular Triple G. Again, again, and again. And that means that in engineering, the masked man who's ready to star in your podcast, Mr.
Phil McGuffey. Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me here guys, thank you. Thank you for showing up, oh finally. As we drive into the latest Cigar Industry news, sports, current events, business, and whatever crazy stories are making the headlines.
Whether you're a seasoned cigar smoker or just looking for entertaining conversation, expect honest opinions, plenty of laughs, and a few unexpected detours along the way. On today's show, we finally killed the right alligator. How many times did it take? Hold on.
Taco Bell gave me diarrhea? Question mark? That's what it's supposed to do? Every day of my teenage life.
" And, Spider-Man's new day has a secret meaning, and we know what it is. New day? Maybe. Then in cigars, no smoking here, lad, and Perez has a new, Perez, Perez, not Perez, sorry.
Perez has a new cigar that, then it's Half Wheel's What's the Score Friday? Oh, Half Wheel. Hey, we're doing Half Wheel today. Okay.
We flip back and forth. Actually, I'm looking for the third, so if you have a podcast where you do cigar reviews on a score of 1 to 100, send me a message. Doesn't the Down to Herf boys do that? Oh, I forgot about them.
How do you forget about them? They're our friends. I went to Developing Palettes because it was mentioned the other day to me by somebody else, but they do a score of 1 to 10, and it's very complicated. Yeah, no, you can't change the tempo.
Yeah, it's gotta be a 1 to 100. It's gotta be 1 to 100. 1 to 100, right. Right.
4 and what the hell it means? There are so many shows out there. How are you not able to find one that does- Find one that I like. Well, that's not nice.
That's not nice. Good Lord. Why don't we do- There have to be a certain format for it to fit how we do it. Like, Cigar Press really doesn't fit, but I can make it fit because it's small enough.
If it was bigger, it would be a problem. If it's smaller, I can stretch the information. I just can't subtract. Yeah, Phil's new movie, I can make it fit.
Right, I can make it fit. Wow. That's actually good. Why don't we do somebody like Cigar Aficionado, like maybe like a really bad one?
You know, like a… Cigar Aficionado? Yeah, because they probably don't give great scores. Like a magazine or something? Yeah.
I sort of need an online so I can cut and paste. I don't want to have to. Oh, okay. I'm trying to do less work for more show.
Yeah, that's fair. Not more work for more show. Got it. All right, before we get started, Phil, how do we get some SCH Pod swag?
God, he's so fast, isn't he? Such a fast guy. He sent this cue this morning at 11 o'clock. But I, you know, I didn't have it up, Erica, here we go.
You think you'd have it ready, I mean, you showed up 45 minutes late. Right now, when you buy two shirts, you get 40% off the second one. It's two of anything, by the way. Two of anything.
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com, A Cigar Hustlers Podcast. That's where we dive into the inside baseball of the cigar industry, talk about what's really going on behind the scenes, and cover the stories we can't always fit into the regular show. Now, let's get to your comments. Palmer?
He actually added stuff in. That was good. Wow. I tried.
I don't think all that was in there. That's what happens when you guys keep me in the closet. The real star is here. All right.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, the real star. I was just going to glance over that. The name of the film, you can take the fucking "I Can Make It Fit" and "In The Closet" put it together, "I Can Make It Fit" as I get out of the closet.
I'm out of the closet, now I can make it fit. All right, we got a comment from T-Money. Oh, yes. T-Money 007, the real T-Money, not that fake one over at Creek, whatever it is.
Creekside. Creekside. Triple G is correct. The search of the trunk is legal.
It's all search incident to arrest a 1C official placed under arrest, and they can search anything they want. Yeah, that's what I figured. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Good. Thank you to our law enforcement. Yes.
Appreciate the clarification. For the federal government or whatever it is that he does. I Heart BDP, I bury my nose in a bundle of cigars like it's a bag of fresh ground coffee. Which bundle?
I'm not exactly sure what that ever, what that even means. Which one did you mean, Balmer? It wasn't me. All right, Florida Man, 1-888.
Great show, guys. Welcome back, Triple G. I'm with Triple G. Every time we turn around, another eclipse is happening.
Oh, no. I now have the total eclipse of the heart song in my head. No. These aren't all for Mississ.
When he comes in the shop today, because he does come up on Fridays, I'm going to play that song and see if he catches. He comes up every day. He does. He does.
It's true. But I'm going to see if he catches on the fact that I actually played it. And the great part about it is he won't hear this until Monday. Right.
Oh, yeah. Wonderful. Perfect. All right.
I Heart Triple G. Triple G, the man, the myth, the legend, the fresh blood infusion into the show. Fresh blood. Is that your mother?
That must be your mother. I thought the other one was my mother. That was my mother. Well, that one's your mother for everybody, but this specifically, because now she can say just nice things about her.
I don't think she would know how to navigate all of this. Maybe she has somebody help her. I highly doubt that. She hired one of those people, one of them Asians, that she doesn't like.
Maybe she met somebody at pickleball. Maybe on the train. Maybe on the train. Maybe on the train.
All right, from Epicurean Smoke, whoever wins Phil's mask in the auction is probably going to do something gross with it. You're probably not wrong. That's awesome. All right, hold on, let me find one more.
All right, Florida Man. Let me make this clear. The Florida Man having sex with the vacuum that is not me. I am the true and the real Florida Man.
No vacuums were used in the typing of this post. Hmm. Hmm, another one from iHeart Triple G. Wow, your mother's back very busy.
Wow, very busy. Hmm, traffic on I-4 in the Sanford Lake Mary area. When did this become a thing? It's because he was late for his doctor's appointment yesterday.
Oh, I see. The bear in my nose. When did this become a event? CW6383, I have to say, I would have done the same thing, Phil.
Seven minutes, WTF. Right. All right, last one here from David Hasselhoffman. Yes, pay watch.
Nose-free mask? Maybe when you take the baby back for the circumcision, maybe they could trim up your nose as well. The next one should be relatively nose-free. You're the best.
All right, if you want to hear your comments right on the show, just comment below this show, or go to the other websites that Mikey's making where you comment there. Yeah, the other 30 of them, plus five. The other 30 different websites that you have to go to now. All right, now let's move on with the show.
Greg, go ahead. Go ahead, Palmer. Oh, thank you very much. You're welcome.
Back to Palmer. All right, this is an update to the, oh, we take my glasses off. This is an update to a previous story, the one where the young lady had her arms torn off by the alligator and died. And died?
Yeah, it's a couple of weeks ago. Okay, actually, okay, the DNA of Brittany Clark, an Orlando woman who died after being attacked, found an alligator last month in Seminole County. She has been, it has been matched to a 13-foot alligator found at the incident location, according to Florida Fish and Wildlife. I guess they found pieces of her.
Wow, they're like doing forensic dives to find the perpetrator gator? Well, no, when they catch the gator and they kill it, they cut open its stomach. Uh-huh. And they look for pieces of her.
Uh-huh. of the victim to see if they have the right alligator got it and then once they find the right alligator they stop looking right that makes sense yeah because once you've eaten because once you've had people apparently you want people more yeah yeah yeah right they do the same thing for cannibals yes yes but they don't cut them open wow they snows they're wearing their jewelry and their hats and stuff the jewelry and that gives it away i wonder how many alligators they went through uh i know of at least three because there were two 12 footers before they got this 13 footer Samples were collected from two alligators that were removed by the trappers after the June 28th attack near the Bar Street trailhead in Little Big Econ State Forest, the FWC said in a statement Thursday about a week ago, FWC announced it also had matched bite marks on Clark to one of the gators. " so they got so they caught the gator they caught the well they killed the gator they killed the gator they know it's the right gator right so now everything's safe everything's back into the water everyone back into the water not only do they match the dna but they match dental records did you hear that yeah it's a bite marks on her hand that was crazy they matched the dental records of the gator like he went in and looked at his prior x-rays and right this one was a filling and that was a cavity yeah they called the alligator dentist right and then they uh you know matched They matched up the teeth, matched the, oh look, the hand that matches, look at that. The hand wasn't attached.
I was unaware that they took dental records of gators. I don't know why they're so concerned with getting the right alligator. I mean, I guess they want to get the one that did it, but just clean out the area. Justice.
Aren't like all gators capable of doing this, right? Yeah, but you would think the bigger ones are more likely to eat you and tear something off than say a smaller one. So just start killing all the big gators, I mean, don't they do that already? Yeah, there's hunting season, they get tags, they get to go out and kill the gators.
Yeah, but only so many. But I don't think that, well, I don't know, is it like with the snakes, they can only do it in certain areas? I think it is with the alligators. Yeah, probably.
So that's probably not an area, because that's a place where people swim and tube. All the more reason to kill the gators. You would think. I mean, Disney doesn't let any alligators in their water anymore.
Mm-hmm. They see a gator, they kill it. They took that little boy. Yeah, well, ever since then, it's like the line from the movie, if I see a man with a red scarf, I kill him, they see an alligator, they kill it.
Ah. Hmm. Tombstone? Tombstone.
Tombstone. Very good. Well done. It's a good movie.
Mm-hmm. All right. Taco Bell has been the shining star of the fast food business for several years, but now the company is contending with a restaurant. Worst nightmare.
Shining star? Yeah. Shining star. Who wrote this?
Shining star in the fast food industry, apparently. Yeah. Okay. Sure.
Well, where do you like to go at night after you've been drinking and you're craving something? I don't do that anymore. He doesn't go anywhere. Yeah.
Oh, you're just drinking at home. Okay. I'll throw a steak on the grill and eat that. When you were younger.
I mean, I have had Taco Bell. Sure. Sure. Who hasn't?
I think we've actually ordered Taco Bell at your house one time. I don't know about that. Another party I wasn't at, apparently. Oh, sorry.
That's all right. I've gotten used to it now. It doesn't hurt as much anymore. Paul, where do you like to go?
Well, I don't drink much at all, period, anymore. But we used to get Taco Bell. Maybe it was in our rotation. But the last two orders, there was stuff missing.
So I was like, forget it. I'm not doing it anymore. Missing my cheeserito or whatever the hell it's called. I'm so disappointed.
Oh, queserito? It is. The one that's just a tortilla with cheese in it? Yeah.
Yeah, that's good. And they fry it? Yeah, I make those at home. We keep tortillas and cheese just for such an occasion.
It's a quick little snack. Yeah. Nice. So I'm guessing the contender is Zaxby's.
What are you talking about? So there was a contender. There was a contending with the restaurant's worst nightmare, Zaxby's is not Taco Bell's worst nightmare. Oh.
You know what is their worst nightmare? McDonald's? An explosive diarrhea outbreak with shredded iceberg lettuce sold at some of the Midwestern Taco Bell locations. Yeah, but this is like happening everywhere.
Yes, but they've done a study now, they're trying to figure out where it came from, and it's being linked back to most of the people who ate at Taco Bell. Well, it's just that Taco Bell goes to a ton of lettuce. Right, pre-packaged. And it's on the lettuce.
Pre-packaged shredded lettuce, right. Yeah. Now lettuce is killing you. Right, it's the lettuce.
Right. Well, that's because on the bag it says this is edible. Yeah. Right.
Oh. Well, with the massive cyclosporatus parasite outbreak sweeping across parts of the United States. It's the closest I'm going to get to that word. It's very long.
The CDC has identified more than 1,600 cases in the outbreak, including nearly 100 hospitalizations. And states are investigating thousands more. The lettuce was supplied to Taco Bell in Michigan, Ohio, West Virginia, Indiana, and Kentucky by Taylor Farms. I don't understand how this is news.
Like, this is just fear-mongering over and over again. Did you say that there were 1,600 cases of this nationwide? Yes. Great.
So, what, 380 million populous, 1,600 people have gotten this disease? Why are we talking about it? Because it's getting bigger. It's now in Florida.
Bigger than what? Bigger than it was yesterday. Great, so it went from 1400 to 1600. It went from like 3 to 1600.
It's still... Because it's going across the country. It's so small. Hey, Greg, it's bigger than the Black Plague right now.
Sure. Right now. What's that disease where like your nose falls off, the end of your fingers falls? Leprosy.
Yeah, I saw an article about leprosy and I passed, because it was one guy. Right. But he was in Florida. That's a real thing, still leprosy?
Yeah. Yeah, it's still around. Yeah, there was a picture of him, but they fogged out his face, so I can just imagine what he looked like. I just saw his nubby hands.
He was going like this in the photo? Oh. Oh, God. Yeah.
It seems horrible. It seems horrible. There's no cure for that either. You know what's even better, though, is in the story that they narrowed it down to the lettuce at Taco Bell.
That's what makes you have diarrhea. Well, they narrowed it down again to the lettuce and everything. Because it's hard to wash the shredded lettuce. How do you wash shredded?
You put it in a bowl and... Yeah, but then it's all soppy wet. It's a sponge. I mean, like a head of a lettuce, you know, you can hose it off, shake it out a little bit, pound it on a paper towel, you can hose it off.
Then the virus stays inside. Yeah, right, the virus stays inside the lettuce. So every time you had a quesadilla, which has no lettuce on it. You're safe with that, yeah.
You don't have diarrhea? Nope. Well, you might, but not for the same reason. Yeah.
Taco Bell is like a natural laxative. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, it's the lettuce. The lettuce gives you the death diarrhea where you have to go to the hospital.
Right. You know, you're sucking down Gatorades and Pedialyte. This is great for Taco Bell. But you see my point about like how this is really kind of silly as far as the numbers in comparison.
Well, we had to move on. The other thing, you know, Ebola is not really taking off like they hoped. So they're moving on to something else. And every other day, it's either, you know, we're at war or we're not at war.
So we got to talk about something else, basically. Right. Well, no, we're at war. We're at war now.
We're at war now. It's daily missile launching, and they say who we shot. Right. Did anybody watch The Address last night?
Was he on last night? Yeah. I missed it. I didn't watch it.
Yeah, I did too. I missed it. Where to contribute, brother. Well done.
Well done. Anybody watch it? No, I didn't. I was just seeing if anybody watched it.
Did you see the flyby up in the Panhandle? I saw it, yeah. The Blue Angels? I heard about that.
That's pretty cool. You can't see the footage? That guy's in trouble. No, he's not.
No, that was like an exercise there. To go that low? Well, this time of year, there's a big air show up there. Yeah, yeah.
So every day, they're doing practice runs and stuff. And this guy was flying, you know, they're offshore, and his buddy and him are flying. Below the hard deck. Yeah, okay, thank you, Top Gun.
Top Gun, right, right, right, below the hard deck. This guy decides to go over the beach, so he turns his plane sideways, and it looks like you could throw a beach ball up in the photo and hit the edge of his airplane. But as he's flying, then I always see all these umbrellas and hats going foo, foo, foo, foo, foo, and suck them off their heads. People are cheering, they're screaming.
He didn't get in trouble for this? Nope, there was an investigation, they said there's not a problem, and then what? " Oh, morale for whom? Well, the people screaming on the beach.
I guess people go to the beach this time of year to see them do stuff, and he put on a show. Gotcha. So we're going to continue to break the rules to make the masses happy. Right, make the masses happy.
Well, the Blue Angels don't have the same type of rules. Yeah, they don't have rules. They have to have rules. They're blue angels, they do whatever they want.
They have different, yeah, they're different. There is no hard deck for them. No, they're different. There's no hard deck, you actually can drive it into the water if you want.
Well, put on a show for the people. Can you imagine all these other countries are watching this stuff, and we use this kind of entertainment for Super Bowl, NASCAR, random days at the beach. Well, yeah, we're a militant force, I mean. And then, you know, they have a 1972 Phantom F4 that they bought from China, who bought it from Russia, they bought it from us.
That's a dope point. We can beat them. No, you can't. The guys that don't even fight fly better than you.
Yeah, that's true. Just ridiculous. Just ridiculous. All right, Taylor Farms did not respond to Cigar Housewives podcast request for a comment.
Taco Bell Thursday said it removed all the lettuce from its nationwide supply chain as a precaution, caution, and they would like to find a replacement within 24 hours in certain states. Does your wife grow lettuce, Greg, at your house? No, but apparently Taco Bell is serving nothing with lettuce right now. No lettuce.
That's all right. That is amazing. Just give the quesadilla. That is awesome.
We are proud to have consistently acted quickly and proactively to protect our guests from diarrhea. Taco Bell said in a statement, but, you know, general diarrhea is okay from Taco Bell. Of course. Right.
After you eat the quesadilla. But history shows fast food patrons are a fickle bunch, and Taco Bell may have a lot more work to do to win back They grossed out customers. Like he said, over the years, people get sick from Taco Bell. Do you think Taco Bell is the only company that uses that vendor?
No, that's my point. Well, it's shredded lettuce. What else? What other?
Yeah, but it's from Taylor Farms. It's not just because the lettuce is shredded. It's because the lettuce is from Taylor Farms. No, but that particular lettuce, though.
I'm sure other people use it. Yeah, like Jack in the Box probably uses it. Sure. Burger King, McDonald's.
It sounds like a big vendor. No, Jack in the Box tacos are disgusting. Have you tried one? offense yes i've had one there was one that opened up by the house of supposedly the first one in the state of florida yes it is right my god like the first three weeks the level of intelligence that wrapped around this building waiting for a burger they must have had a combined iq of seven or eight it was wild in my opinion no no you know what opened up by you that's really good doughboys what is doughboys it's a pizza spot oh is that more cauliflower pizza you are you are quite the connoisseur of pizza no me and carlos have been there multiple times they're from new They're great.
When he used to take me to lunch, he knew all the good places to go. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah.
He's a local. He's been here his whole life. Yeah. Yeah.
That makes sense. All right. Spider-Man. What time are we at?
20. Oh, good. Spider-Man's brand new day is only a few weeks out, but there's still a whole lot that we don't know about this movie. New day?
New day. There's been no confirmation on the main villain. We don't know who the main villain is. I thought there were multiple villains.
But there was always a main one. Oh. Anyone know who Sadie Sink is? It sounds like a dirty vessel that you wash your hands with.
Oh yeah, that was a girl from Dune, I think. Okay, well, there's been no confirmation on the main villain. Sadie Sink's character is not confirmed. I don't know who she's playing.
And now it seems like the title is hiding another cryptic clue. Oh, I'm intrigued. Speaking as part of the new documentary called Generations: The Evolution of Spider-Man, which is out on Disney+. , Peter Parker star Tom Holland explained more.
The brand new day of this movie, it isn't the beginning. It's the last frame of this movie. So apparently you have to sit through the movie, and then the last frame, they explain the title. It's a new day.
I'm not excited. He's gotten in trouble before for giving out secrets of the movie. Yeah, but don't you feel like that was kind of all planned and just good marketing? I don't know, because Mark Ruffalo did it one time, too.
He was at an awards show, and they called and told him something, and he didn't know his mic was still on, and whatever secret they told him, he gave that out to everybody who was at the awards show. Right. " Yeah. Well, that doesn't mean, in our eyes, it certainly seems that Spider-Man 4 will be setting up something of a twist ending, at least it may tease something big about Parker's future, or the future of him in the MCU.
As it stands, it's not really clear what's next for Holland's character. After this entry, we still don't know if he appears in the Avengers: Doomsday, it's the one where Tony Stark is now Dr. Doom? Well, no, Robert Downey Jr.
is now Dr. Doom. Well, from what I understand it, it's still Tony Stark in an alternate universe. Oh, really?
Yes. Well, that's an interesting way of doing it. Right. And even though he is heavily, I mean, how, I mean, he's in the same mood with the same people, were they gonna just ignore the fact that he, you know, They do look a lot like our dead friend.
Yeah, no, but they do that. " Multiverse. " I haven't even heard about that one. Good Lord.
Well, if they make money, they make money. Let's keep cranking these things out. There was like six Iron Mans, remember, in the comics? Right.
Apparently, there's more Spider-Mans, too. Yeah, there's a lot of Spider-Mans. When this all started, I was really, really intrigued by it. They were doing a really good job.
I think he did a good job. There wasn't one Marvel Universe film that I could possibly miss. I couldn't tell you how many I've missed at this point, just because it's like a wrung out towel. How much more are you going to get out of it?
I still enjoy them. Do you? Yeah. I don't like the DC stuff, but I like the Marvel stuff.
I think it's better made. Well, DC is always darker anyways. I mean, it's not as well-produced. I don't mind about that.
I mean, I don't kill her if they, you know, use Genocide as one of the bad guys. That's his name. He just kills entire people. Yeah.
But I just don't like the quality of the movie. of the movie. I think the Marvel stuff's good, but now that you already have all the main characters out that they've made all the movies about, you remember all the comic books, they kind of got crazy because they intertangle into each one and all that kind of stuff. Because Doctor...
Who's the Doctor guy? Doctor Doom? No, no, the universe. Doctor Strange.
When he did that universe, that multiverse thing, that's when all the comics got nutty. You know, they started getting other characters in the other comics. Right, that's what they used to bring in other people. Yeah.
Theater, it comes out in theaters July 29th. In the UK, it's July 31st. So, Greg, if you're traveling, wait and see it here before you leave. Thank you, Palmer.
I appreciate that. Are you going to the UK? No, but I think the wife has got a Greenland thing before the end of the year. Oh, super cold.
Yeah, super cold there. That's a misnomer, the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a trick.
Well, we're going to try to go and see the Northern Lights. This was our second attempt to try and define the Northern Lights. You almost died the last time. Right.
Maybe I'll almost die this time too, who knows? Why don't you go to Alaska, Sam? I could use a vacation. Aren't they in Alaska?
Yeah, but it's like a lot of travel to Alaska, a lot of travel to Europe. Yeah, but you're still in America though, at least, you know. What's the difference? Cold is cold.
There's going to be no blue angels flying over you in Greenland. That's true. We might invade that while you're there and then you get all swept up because their people look like our people, they won't know who you are. I'll be fine.
Ice will get you in, not the frozen kind, the ice. I see Greenland. That's that coming back. Right, you're coming back.
How do we know you're not from Greenland, sir? Look at that last name. You don't belong here. You don't belong here.
Right. Let's see. The new film begins after Doctor Strange removed the world's memory of who the real Spider-Man is. We all know that.
Set it up on Parker, blah, blah, blah. So, I asked AI to predict what it means. A new day. Our use of AI at this point is amazing.
My brother and I were discussing how much money we've spent on it so far. Yeah, it's getting up there. All right, here's what he said. My predictions for the ending, I think the last frame explains the title comment, is the biggest clue.
My predictions, this is from AI, not from me, Peter accepts that no one remembering him isn't a tragedy anymore, it's a freedom. He smiles because he finally understands that Spider-Man is who he is, regardless of whether anyone knows Peter Parker or not. The final shot is Peter swinging through New York with no Avengers, no multiverse, no Iron Man references, just Spider-Man protecting the city. That's the true, brand new day.
Hmm. Okay, great. Been done with Bruce as he gives a nod to Alfred at the end of the last film that Christian Bale was in. Like, where he's no longer Batman, you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah, but they dragged him out somewhere. A different Batman. Yeah, they brought in new Batmans. Like, those three were amazing.
You just liked 'em because they were dark. They weren't as dark as the emo version that's the most recent one. Oh, the guy from the vampire movies? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I hate that one. Right. I hate him as Batman. I don't like the new Spider-Man either.
We talked about that already. There is a new Spider-Man? A new Batman, or Superman. Sorry, I'm getting all these men confused.
So you think the best Batman is Christian Bale? Oh, yeah. Hmm. Oh, yeah.
- I like the guy who's doing it now. I can't remember his name. - Michael Keaton? - Well, he was good, too.
- He was good. - That's not who's doing it now. It's the guy... - Edward.
- What? - The guy who's doing it now is the vampire. - Yeah, the vampire. - Oh, the one before that, sorry.
- The one before that would be Ben Affleck. - Ben Affleck. I like the Ben Affleck Batman. - I think he's a good actor.
I don't know about him. - I don't know. It depends on the movie. But I thought he did a good job as a Batman.
- The best one's Val Kilmer. - He only did one. - That may be the weakest one. Yeah, he did one, and they didn't invite him back because he had to have a special codpiece to make his thing look bigger.
Wow. And I'm not saying he was bad. I'm just saying that he may be the weakest one. Yeah, I think that was by far the best.
But that was the biggest cast that they've ever had. Is that the one with Schwarzenegger? Yeah, Schwarzenegger. Yeah, it was a good cast.
Supposedly, Schwarzenegger bought that costume from the movie studios. That's cool. I'd do that if I were him. Well, yeah.
" It's not even about the money. It's like, "I wouldn't even buy it. " It's kind of a hard thing to walk away with, but we'll see you. Pay somebody to take it out in pieces, quietly.
Spread it out over a period of 30 days. All right, there's a wild card possibility. Uh-oh. According to Claude?
According to AI. No, I don't use Claude, I use ChatGPT. Silver Surfer. Oh, are we paying for that or no?
No, no. Oh, it's good to know. Okay, very good. All right.
Marvel loves double meanings. I wouldn't be shocked if the ending also restores one relationship, perhaps, MJ begins to remember Peter or they meet again with the sense that something is different. Not a full memory restoration, but the beginnings of a new relationship after them picking up the cold, wait, rather than picking up, oh the old one, my confidence ranking 90% Peter fully embraces being the independent classic Spider-Man, 75% the movie is intentionally smaller and more street level after the multiverse saga, which he just goes back to fighting crime like he did in the regular comic books, just the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. 60%, the ending introduces a new beginning with MJ or another key relationship, rather than restoring the old one, and then 20%, everyone's memories are completely restored, I actually hope they don't do that, it would undo the emotional ending of No Way Home, it says.
Wait, the robot says I hope? Yeah. Okay. All right.
You don't like that he has feelings? I don't like that the robot says I hope. No, that's scary to me. Oh.
It's a little scary. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
All right, Greg, you okay over there? You okay? Are you awake? You still awake over there?
Okay. Do you need to run? Is there a baby? You gotta go?
No, no. I'm just dealing with work stuff. What work stuff? I got a call too, but I'm not taking money either.
Oh, well. I'm gonna take my call too. Nobody's calling you. No, no, no.
All right, Greg, do you have a video for us today? No, I don't. I love you. Oh, no video.
Of course he doesn't. Of course not. All right, then we're moving on to Cigar News. VR News!
Just like his brother. Yeah, it starts a bit and then just lets it fall apart. Wait, was I supposed to say something there? No.
Because I don't have a video. Was I supposed to have a video? Well, your brother's supposed to have a video, but he stopped doing it because it got to be too much. It is a lot.
I mean, I haven't even tried. I put a whole show together every single day. He can't come up with a 30 second video. I've never even tried to find a video and it's already a lot to do.
Wait a minute. You guys literally sit on your, I guarantee you do this, Greg. You sit on your back patio at night time and look through reels. Patio?
He does it upstairs. Oh yeah, you do it upstairs. I mean, yeah, there are reels that come through on my feed, sure. Right, that's what we're talking about.
No, not reels that come through, reels that you watch. Yeah. That's where you get the videos. So...
Like right now, I have reels coming through on my feed that I'm not looking at. Ah, okay, so something that you watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so yeah, there are...
You might come across some of the interesting things that you would like to share with the group. Got it, okay. So pre-prepare next time. Okay, I'll start taking notes on a daily basis.
Yeah, on days you're gonna be on the show. If you could have a video, that would be nice. Or perhaps you could have some other shop we could call with a funny story that they could talk about on the air. That was another bit that he started at Phil.
I wish we could crank call other shops. Remember when we used to do that here? Oh, we're not crank calling. Remember Palmer when we used to prank phone call with Picano all the time?
Yeah, we used to. That's right. What? He had all these weird, that was a different show.
It was a different show. He had these apps on his phone that would make phone calls for you. Yeah. And we would call Keanu at night.
And like, what would you say to him? Whatever the app would say something. I don't know. The app did all the work.
We just recorded it. It'd be like, hey, you talked to my girlfriend? He'd be like, uh, excuse me? Excuse me?
Who is this, sir? What's great is it would record the person. Oh, my God. So we could play it back.
We could play it on the end. Oh, my God. Mikey and I used to call shops. He used to make sales calls to shops, and we used to record those because they didn't know who the hell he was.
Oh, just getting kicked in the teeth. Yeah, right, yeah. "You're with who? I don't carry that.
It's got a red and white strap on the box. Oh, that one. " And I would have to bleep out the name of the shop before. We should go back to that, like Jerky Boy style.
We're not going back to that. You never go backwards. I'm sure that's some saying your brother has. Great, now it's going to be a t-shirt.
Never do the same gag twice. Never do the same gag, right, yeah, I read that in a book. Yeah. All right, Perez Carrillo, Encore Noir 2 released.
Ooh. Casa Carrillo has released, I hope I said that right, if not Jack's going to call me. Probably not. S.
will begin getting a portion of the releases for a launch event later this month. Ooh. The Encore Noir 2 is an all-Nicaraguan blend that comes in a Celestial #2 size. What is a Celestial #2?
Celestial? Celestial. That means from the stars? Yeah.
Yeah, #2, what is that? Well, #2 is a shape. It's a Vitola. Right, that's what we're talking about.
Yeah. It comes in a, that's not, you know, we're not looking for a box, a Celestial #2. It comes in a star shape. That is a shape.
Okay, can you describe the shape? Thank you very much. I think it's like a Bellicoso. It's similar to a Bellicoso.
Six and an eighth by 50 Toro Vitola. No. That's what it says. That's so wrong.
I love how he walked you into that, too. It's like a bellicoso. Oh, okay, the size is a six and an eighth by 50 Toro. Oh, well, apparently I was wrong.
We forgot, you're not really in the industry. Oh, boy. Yeah, so number two is a torpedo or pyramid and features a straight cylindrical body that tapers gradually to a closed point to top. Did you not put Celestial in because you can't spell it?
Well, I only assumed that they were referencing something else. Celestial number two, I thought it was a special number two. I don't know. Number two is opposed to a ground leg number two.
Fucking bellicose. Hey, language. Sorry. Can you spell the word Celestial for its Palmer?
No. Because I feel like it says celestial. C-E-L-E-S-T-I-A-L. Okay, alright, I was just making sure.
Yeah, I know. It's a blend that's notably different from the Encore, or the original Encore Noir that came out in 2024, which uses an Ecuadorian wrapper and, let's see, what shape is that? They're not saying. Flat.
Yeah, that one is a Belcozo II. The company says that the Encore Noir II delivers a richer, more intense interpretation while maintaining the balance and elegance that define the series, adding that it offers remarkable complexity, layered richness, and refined strength. Prediction is limited to 1,500 boxes of 10 cigars, a total run of 15,000 cigars made at the company's factory in the Dominican Republic. , 250 boxes will be shipped to Two Guys Cigars in New Hampshire.
- Oh, our friends, very nice. - Our friends and two, yeah, two guys, which will be hosting a weekend of launch events July 24th and 25th, With both Ernesto Perez Carrillo Jr. And Ernesto Perez Carrillo III. Attending for the purposes of the Two Guys event, the Encore Noir will have a price of, do not say $16.
You know it's fucking $16. Okay, $17. $16. It was $17.
Damn it. International pricing has not been announced yet, so we don't know. Encore. Do you want more?
By allowing these tobaccos the time they need to mature naturally, we've created a cigar with remarkable depth, richness, and elegance that remains unmistakenly Encore. Encore. I already thought there was a second Encore. I guess I was wrong.
Apparently. It was just the original one. Maybe it went to a different country. You know, there's a lot of cigars going to different countries now.
People are expanding. Yeah. Gross. Where are we sending ours?
Where are we going to send ours? Is it because the market in America is becoming saturated, or you think they're just looking for other places to sell? I think no matter what you're trying to grow your company, if there are avenues for you to gain more sales, why wouldn't you attempt it? I mean, it's a big world.
Okay. I thought a lot of international places were going to no-smoking bans. Yeah, no, I mean... They're in smoking bans.
Yeah, I mean, that's one of the reasons why, you know, smaller companies don't try to get into those markets. It's hard. K. just did it.
Yeah. Smoking ban. Smoking ban. Generational smoking ban.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that brings us into the next story. Ireland is considering a generational smoking ban. No.
Tobacco. Actually, they're doing a generational tobacco ban. No. Following the United Kingdom's passage of a generational tobacco ban, a law that bans anyone born after...
Can't say '16. 2009. Phil? They probably want it soon.
Put the camera on you, Phil. They probably want it soon, so 21 minus 26, 2004 or 5? 2008. Oh.
From ever legally purchasing tobacco products, proposals have popped up in other countries, Ireland appears to be the latest one. Mark Wall, an Irish TD. You know what TD stands for? Irish.
I don't know. Asked if the Irish Ministry of Health was looking at a proposal. In response, Jennifer Carroll McNeil, TD, who is the Irish Minister of Health, replied, Tobacco is a uniquely lethal product when used exactly as intended by the manufacturer. It kills almost 100 people and causes over 1,000 hospitalizations every week in Ireland.
Again, like we're talking about. Cigarettes and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Nobody's dying of cigars. Nobody's dying of cigar consumption. There is no age at which it becomes safe to consume tobacco. Our national tobacco control policy, Tobacco Free Ireland, very original, is currently being reviewed.
One of the central goals will be to set out a pathway to end the epidemic of tobacco-related harm in Ireland. My officials and I are considering all measures to fulfill the objective, including a generational ban. No other information has been given. Separately, Cigar Rights of America and Industry Trade Group has warned that a similar proposal may be coming to France.
TD means Techtedala. In Ireland? Yeah, a member of the lower house of Ireland's parliament. Oh.
I'm glad they said TD. France's National Health Insurance Fund, the La Assure Maladine, recently made a recommendation to ban anyone born after 2009. That one year makes a difference. People age slower in France.
From legally purchasing tobacco products. In France, don't they all sit around telling how bad we are smoking cigarettes and not what they do? I think that that used to be a thing. When I was there last, there weren't a lot of people smoking cigarettes.
See how you dropped that in, Phil? When I was in France. I was surprised you didn't say it with an accent. Well, when I was in the France.
When I was in France, by the Eiffel Tower, there was not a lot of people smoking the cigarettes. Do they look at you and know you were American? Oh, yeah. Look at them.
I used to get Canadian in China all the time. People thought I was Canadian. So it's so bad, like, we like to stop and ask locals, like, where should we eat? Right.
Right? Because they're going to know. They're going to know where the good spots. Sure.
Nine times out of ten in France, when you ask somebody, where should we go to eat? They're like, you want a hamburger? No, I don't want a hamburger. I'm not here for a hamburger.
You racist. Would you like the French fries? We do not call that animal, they are called potatoes. Or maybe French bread, huh?
You want different bread? Perhaps you want breakfast, you want the French toast. God, this place is racist. You're like racist people.
When they ask you, what are you looking for? No, they never did. Do you want some wine? Maybe some cheese?
" Yeah. Maybe you're American. Perhaps a croissant. You want that Bud Light?
Would you like the Bud Light? We know where the Budweiser beer. guys over here yeah you should just fuck with them back i'm slutty the cra why is it the cigar rights of america why are they worried about france i mean like you know it's in the name it is in the name it's true but you know we do kind of live in a global economy and you know as the world changes their perspective on things it's only a matter of time before there's overflow Overflow either from our way or overflow from their way. We have tax problems with tobacco in this country.
We have states doing generational tobacco bans. Let's bring them back home and work on the stuff we have here. Make America Great Again is what you're saying, Palmer. Scott Pierce.
No, I like Scott Pierce. He's my friend. Oh, okay. He just was on the center floor.
He talked to them. Told them about the tariffs, how bad they are. They are bad. They are bad.
The CRA report notes that this hasn't yet spurred new legislation, but that this could lead to a revival of proposals from Les Verts, France's Green Party, says Green Party that would have banned anyone born after January 1st, 2014, or later from purchasing tobacco products. Proponents of the generational tobacco ban say that by banning anyone born after a certain age from legally purchasing a product, it will create tobacco-free or nicotine-free generations. Yeah, but they don't ban the pouches. Okay.
I would imagine if they're going to make it tobacco-free, I mean, I guess you can get They can get nicotine from non-tobacco sources. Sure, they can just pump them full of nicotine. Yeah, they actually get it from lettuce. Shredded lettuce?
Shredded lettuce. Well, we know there's a lot of extra shredded lettuce. Maybe if you just suck on it, you don't get the diarrhea. Yeah, what's really crazy is that they think if they ban it, it'll go away.
'Cause we banned marijuana. Well, actually, it's becoming legal now. We've banned crack. We've banned...
Yeah, I'm pretty confident crack's gonna stay banned, though. They banned that. Some guy in the corner, you're going to pull up to the corner, roll on your window and go, give me three Monte Cristos. Yeah.
Right. Two postanias, I got to get out of here. Hey, you might have to do that. That's what I'm saying.
Like, if you ban it, okay, whatever. What you did is you just took business away from businesses, like legitimate businesses, and you put Tony on the corner and he's selling out the back of the trunk. Oh. Tony.
Tony. Tony. Tony. It's always Tony.
I could have said anything else, but Tony. According to the UK, New Zealand implemented one in January 23rd, but it repealed it in March 2024. Did not work in New Zealand. Because they're men.
Last year, the Maldives enacted a generational tobacco ban, and it's still in effect. I will not smoke there if I can stay in one of those bungalows over the water. In the Maldives. I heard that they have cigars there.
In the bungalow area? Maybe you're far enough away from the land that it's like international waters. I don't know. Michael Knight likes to go to the Maldives all the time.
Michael Knight? I remember him. I like him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who? We still exchange messages now and then. My English friend who lives in England. Oh, okay.
He just got married last year. Did he? Yeah. And...
He's still married. Their name is... Mr. and Mrs.
Michael Knight. Mr. and Mrs. Okay, fair enough.
Wow. Wow. He watches the show. Wow.
I wanted to know the name. Yeah, yeah. No, he told you the name. You wanted to know the gender.
There was Mister and Mister. The gender. Yeah. Okay.
English just come off that way. I don't know. They're just very proper. He said something to me one time.
I can't recall what it was. He does make comments. He does. I was put back for a second.
I can't remember what he said. Did he just ask to see my winner? Huh? I think he asked to see my winner.
It was something weird. Yeah. Something weird. He does.
He does sometimes. But nice guy. I genuinely like him. Yeah, yeah.
Alright, now it's time to play. We really got to bring it, just so you know. We're having a whole week of really bringing it in. Yeah, yeah.
All right, now it's time to play: What's the Score? Then there's a pause here where Mike will go, bzzz, and charges this thing. We don't have a thing. We're not allowed.
I'm going to buy another round. But you're going to have to do the sound. Just get lights, and I'll put lights up behind you. Yeah, I'm going to get it.
All right, well, players hear clues from a Half Wheel Cigar review and try to predict the score before it's revealed. As more details are shared, the challenge gets easier, or does it? The closest guest to the actual score wins the round. Can you read between the lines to predict the score?
Greg. Oh, this is where he hits the button. It's... Yeah, just a second.
There it goes. Time to play What's the Score? Are we doing two rounds of this today, or are we doing one round of this? We only do two on Tuesday.
It's two for Tuesday. Oh, is that what it is? Yes. Well, okay.
Two for Tuesday. The rest of the week, it's one. Why, are you trying to sandbag or what? But now let me ask you this.
If you're recording on Monday, it's showing on Tuesday, so... Oh, sorry. The show we record on Tuesday goes up on Wednesday. I know.
So it's two for Wednesday. It just doesn't sound as good. I'll write that down. All right.
Perfect. First cigar, July 16th, 2026. Wow. Recent.
Recent. Charlie Minato. Oh boy. Charlie Minato.
Mr. 81. 81, 2026. It's the Atari.
The Arturo Fuente Cigar, Dominican Republic Reviews, the Opus X, Templo de Oro, number eight. I know this cigar. - What size is the number eight grand? - I have no idea.
It's definitely not a Bellicoso. - All right. - Do you know the score already? - No, I haven't seen the review.
No, no, no, no, no. - It's today. He hadn't looked today. - I just know the cigar because we've carried it.
- Yeah, yeah, we carry the cigar. - That's all. - It's a newer cigar. - Yeah.
- Anybody? Somebody? Somebody? Anybody?
- You want me to open? - Sure, open. - Uh, 88. - Philip?
- It's a Fuente, so it's gonna get over a 90. - Is he over there looking it up? 90. No, it's gonna be a 91.
Let's go 91. Alright, Cigar Review, the Opus X, Templo de Oro, number 8, Country of Origin, Dominican Republic, Factory, Tabla Calera y Fuente, Wrapper, Undisclosed, Binder, Undisclosed, Filler, Also Undisclosed. So much to go on. Six and an eighth inch, Ring Gauge 55, The Shape, Undisclosed.
They smoked... You can see the shape. I don't tell ya. They smoked three of these for a review.
We're not saying the shape, you must guess. Is that because the shape in every cigar is different, or...? I don't, yeah, they're all different. There's no standards, that way they don't have to make standards.
Right. Does this one look okay? I don't know, it doesn't matter. We're not telling anybody what it is.
We chiseled these molds out. Sorry. Your turn. We hand-carved these with a dull knife.
Right. That's why they look expensive. Would you say 88 again? All right.
Over there, Phillip. Um, 91. The cigar delivered, oh, sorry, clue number one. Bing.
Ah, clue number one. Clue number one. The cigar delivered a refined, full-flavored experience with the signature Opus X profile of layered wood, earth, creaminess, and sweetness, while introducing enjoyable transitions highlighted by rich nuttiness, vanilla, coffee, ginger, candy. Candy.
And subtle toast. Subtle toast. Subtle Toast. All right, Subtle Toast.
Is that special bread? I like a good Subtle Toast. Yeah. I'm going to go 90.
That's where you go, and you don't say cheers. Right. Just cling the glasses. It's just like cling.
93. Ooh, big jump. Yeah, this is Fuente. This is Half Wheel.
They're going to give us a good score, so. I'm going to stick at 91 right now, but probably go up later. Clue number two. Construction was generally solid on two of the three samples, providing an even-burned, comfortable draw, And a balanced, medium-full strength that allowed the evolving flavor profile to shine through most of the smoking experience.
Mmm, 93. 92. Mmm, creeping up. Clue number three.
Pre-light aromas and cold draws were unpleasant, featuring funky pond water and vinegar notes, and one sample struggled to repeat burn issues in the second half, Leading to excessive toastiness that muted the cigar's otherwise refined flavors. Hm. Muted Pond water. Pond water.
Pond water. Amazing. The details of it. How do you know what pond water tastes like?
I guess if you like walked by a swampy pond and you smelt it. Smelt it? So kind of like rain? I guess.
Sort of. Filthy frog? Notes of filthy frog, perhaps? Hm.
I don't know. So I'm going to have to go down a little bit with mine, too. I'm going to go 90. 91.
Final thought. These are the only three Opus Templo de Oros I smoked, and my takeaway is that the release is very good news for fans of the original Opus X. You don't need to go through any hoops to track these down and spend extra money to buy them. If you like the regular Opus X blend and haven't gotten to smoke this yet, I don't think you are missing much.
Much. Compared to any of the core Opus X variants like 20th Angel's Share, Oro Oscuro, et cetera, these were especially in the middle parts as close to a regular F-F-Fox, F-F-O-X? Fuente Fuente Opus X is what that means. Ah, I like F-F-Fox.
I like F-F-Fox. I thought maybe he was stuttering or something. F-F-F-Fox. F-F-F-Fox.
As I've experienced, I found these blends to be some of the Forbidden X Cigars, or Opus X 25, orbiting the regular blend, but not a direct clone. For me, the difference between this and the regular Opus X was the Templo de Oro tasted like a slightly tamed-down version, lacking the thickness and body that I enjoy from the original blend, at least when smoking relatively fresh. The Templo de Oro is a very good cigar, only let down is this reviewed by some burn issues, but I don't see how it will have any sort of revolution. Who's Robodex fans?
Hmm. That was the final thought? That was the final thought. That was the final thought.
Now you get your final score. 89. Right on the edge there, Greg. Oh, that's Superman.
And who's the reviewer? Charlie. Charlie. Charlie?
Charlie. Superman. Right on the edge there, Greg. Oh, it's Superman.
And who was the reviewer? Superman. Charlie? Superman.
2026. Mr. Fox? Smoke three, burn issue with one.
Try to keep up. Shape undisclosed. Shape undisclosed. I'm going to go 90.
- And you win 89? - Mm-hmm. - It's 90. - Yeah!
- On the head. - If you watch the show, I've been giving you fireworks when you win. - Oh, have you? - Yes.
- Oh, so I don't need to do that part. - No, yeah, but it's funnier when you're going... - Oh, they shoot out my hand? - You put cartoon fireworks behind them?
- Yeah. - Yeah. - That's nice. I like that.
That's good for you, Phil. - All right, Greg, you want to plug any podcasts you're doing anytime soon? - I'm not doing any podcasts anytime soon. - Any appearances?
Any events coming up you'd like to plug? I'm not doing any, well, we do have an event coming up for, can I say that? Yeah. You can say the event, don't say the website, you can say we're at an event, you can say the brand, you can't mention any money.
So wait a minute, we can say brands? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, yeah.
It's a cigar show. Yeah, so we've got an upcoming private dinner with San Parai downstairs in our private lounge that we're in right now. A website that I can't say. Can't say the website.
Is going to wind up having the new Carbon Flower on it by LFD. Today? I mean, by the time this goes off on Monday. Yeah, by that guy right there.
Oh, there it is. So, these bad boys will be for sale on a website I can't say. Yeah, I can't say the word "sale", so I have to cut that out. Steve is upstairs right now putting them online.
Exactly how we described it. There you go. Yeah, it's shiny cell though, you can see it fine. There you go.
And that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. Oh. All right.
We hope you enjoyed your edumetainment in today's show, without Michael again. We appreciate you listening. com, A Cigars Podcast. com, get all our swag.
And maybe you have to go there to comment by the time this comes up. I don't. On the chat board or whatever. Yeah, the chat board, whatever he's calling that.
Yeah, buy the mask. I don't have access to the thing. We can't say what the bid is for the mask. The bid for the mask goes to the end of the month, so it's another week, I guess?
Next week is the last week of the month. Trying to get it to 100. You can do dirty things with it. Good Lord.
That's what Epicurean Smoke said. Whoever buys it is doing dirty stuff with it. Wait till they get the one with the hook on it. That's got insertion abilities.
Right, yeah. All right, guys. Thank you very much. We got to go.
Bye.
Show Notes
On today’s show… we finally killed the right gator! Taco Bell gave me direarreh? And Spiderman New Day has a secret meaning and we have it! Then in cigars (Irish Accent) No Smokin here lad and prez has a new cigar then its Halfwheel whats The score Friday