ACHP Cigars and Things On Valentines Day Episode 457
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It's Wednesday, ladies and
gentlemen, cigar smokers,
podcast listeners, and anyone
who hit play on accident or on
purpose.
Here on Wednesday for the next
three episodes, we got some
things we need to talk about.
Talk with the cigar in your.
Mouth we need to talk about
let's start this one over.
This is this is.
This is screwy here.
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start over from the.
Beginning.
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Yeah, one second, all right.
I thought that was great.
Yeah, yeah, for the bloopers, we
got a whole show with bloopers.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's
Wednesday.
Cigar smokers, podcast listeners
and anyone who hit play, we've
got some things that we need to
talk about here.
So for the next three shows,
Mike Palmer will not be on the
show.
That's it.
That's the show, right?
There, that's it.
Yes, the guy that actually makes
this show run is gone
temporarily, but in podcast
terms this may go down as one of
the worst decisions in recorded
audio history.
Today I am John Carney and I
will be filling in.
And by filling in, I mean
actively drowning.
Expect non relevant information,
unfinished thoughts and stories
that start strong and absolutely
go nowhere.
This isn't hosting, it is truly
survival, and somehow it's going
to get worse.
I'm in for it.
You really got me for this one
here, Palmer.
Here we go.
Over the next two episodes,
management will attempt to
replace Palmer with random
subpar cigar personas.
A rando, a seat filler, someone
with confidence wildly
disproportionate to their
knowledge.
Quick wit gone timing, missing
intelligence.
We're very optimistic but
concerned.
So do yourself a favor, either
skip the next two episodes,
we're not doing that, or lean in
and don't miss the auto accident
like chaos we're about to
provide.
Rubber necking is encouraged.
This is not a plan.
This is not a rebuild.
This is chaos.
And with that, welcome to
episode 457 of the Cigar
Hustlers podcast.
Let's get this show over with.
Here we go.
So with me, here's our
engineering guy they call Phil
who has a rubber beer nose on.
Rubber Bear.
Bear.
Bear there's the reading aspect.
Beer.
Reading Recognition Challenge
already I.
Like beer I I get it.
Yeah, I like beer.
I.
Love beer?
Yeah, I love beer.
And then is the Co host a man
who doesn't look worried but who
should be worried?
We'll be seriously worried by
the end of this of the show, Mr.
Suspenkievich.
Suspenkievich.
I tried to pronounce the S and
the Z and the C and the Z and
the E as well as I can and I get
the end pretty well I think.
Yeah, you're not even close.
No, no, it's OK.
Sorry I'm closer than literally
everybody else probably.
It's Shep on kevitch.
Unless you're Polish because
then you look at it like chech.
It's Polish.
It's Chech Shep.
Shep.
Oh.
Dude that makes perfect sense.
Right after what, like 18 years?
I'm fine.
Like you're telling me to make
sense.
You're getting there.
Wow, Shep Kincavitch.
Yeah, Shep on Kev.
On Kevitch.
There you go, you're there.
It's actually easy once you
start saying.
It yeah, you were right.
Yeah.
So Mike, tell us a little bit
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Let's give a couple of shout
outs here to people who
commented on our last show.
We'll probably have a few more
comments here because Mr. Carney
kept us waiting with bated
breath.
Let's see Nargars.
I love this one.
When I saw it, it says GTA 6
before Palmer and Phil getting
getting put their beanies.
Yes and then real smoke pod also
wrote Hey Palmer and Boots how
much to get us on the list laugh
out loud. 500.
No, they're talking about being
on the review list.
Oh, because we were going to do
the top five.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So.
We're going to do that.
We're So what we're going to do
is we're going to review the
reviewers.
So real smoke pot, you're on
that list.
No problem.
So the we're going to do in two
different categories.
We're going to do half wheel
coupe.
I always screw this up.
Yeah, you did.
It the other day.
Cigar Press.
Dojo.
Was that Dylan?
Dojo.
Yep.
And then who am I forgetting?
Now I'm forgetting.
This is what we did yesterday.
Yeah, I'm forgetting somebody
else.
There was one person.
Yeah, and if they're listening,
how should they feel about us
forgetting who they are?
Pretty bad, yeah, Yeah.
That's a cool idea.
You're going to review the
reviewers?
Yeah, we're going to review the
cigar or review the review.
We're going to take the top ten
that they review and we're going
to rank them zero through 50I
mean, we, we don't think it
belongs on the list. 5 is
absolutely and then, you know,
1/3.
So the top score that anybody
could get would be a perfect
fifty, which is not going to
happen, right?
And we'll see how they score and
then we'll average out our
scores and then we'll rank them
within that five and.
Are we going to smoke the cigars
or just rank the cigars?
You're just going to rank them?
Yeah, rank them either already.
Yeah.
You've either already smoked the
cigar or if you haven't, I mean,
maybe you didn't smoke the
cigar, but you know the brand
and you feel OK.
So then maybe you get that one
in three, you know, something
like that.
And you said?
Coop was a great idea.
Yeah, of course we're going to
review Cuban Coop Coop.
Coop Oh, they said cubes.
No, I said, I said coupe.
It's like a 5 coupe.
You know, I always love
Carney's.
It's the.
French version of.
His reviews are lay good.
Lay good.
I always love Carney's energy.
It's super high.
Three and bigger, yeah.
Thank you.
Thank.
You.
So we're going to keep using the
word beer for bear here, but
beer?
Siblings Misha and Lucy became
overnight celebrities in March
2025 after escaping their
enclosure at Wildwood Trust in
Devon, England.
I'm pretty sure we might have
covered this one.
Zoo staff immediately went into
emergency mode.
Visitors were evacuated, police
were contacted, and concerns
grew that the beers The beers
might have wandered beyond the
park's boundaries, but the furry
fugitives hadn't gone far at
all.
Instead of heading into the
countryside, Misha and Lucy made
their way straight to the zoo's
kitchen, which had just received
a fresh delivery of fruits and
vegetables.
Smart.
According to the staff, timing
couldn't have been worse or
better, depending on your
perspective.
I'm supposed to use an English
accent here?
Yes.
Try the Queen's English.
Or, you know, Maine English.
Queens.
Yeah, Queens.
English they.
Didn't panic, they didn't roam,
one staff member said.
They went straight for the food,
like they knew exactly where
they were going.
Once inside, the bears devoured
the entire property shipment and
then moved on to dessert,
consuming a full week's worth of
honey.
After their All you Can Eat
buffet, the excitement quickly
fizzled.
Keepers later discovered that
the pals were fast asleep on the
kitchen floor, surrounded by
empty containers, sticky
surfaces and unmistakable
evidence of a legendary sugar
binge.
Living that good life.
Yeah, there's some other quotes
here.
It was honestly a relief.
Another.
It was honestly, they were full
and calm and exactly where we
could safely manage the
situation.
So the bears never left the
facility after they woke from
their comas.
Misha and Lucy were safely
returned to their cages.
They went viral online here.
Popular Science picked it up,
and it was on the Coop show food
segment.
Was it really?
Yeah.
And there's a humorous example
here.
And of animal behavior driven by
opportunity rather than
instinct.
It was instinct for freedom.
And in the end, the bears got a
feast, the zoo got a clean up
job, and the Internet got a
story that it won't soon forget.
We could leave, but there's all
of this food over here.
So honey is the unique one.
They do go after honey.
So apparently bears love honey.
Yes, bears love honey.
Bears also love like shit
diapers and all kinds of other
things like.
Do you know anything random?
Any random facts about honey?
I do not know random facts about
honey.
I mean, there's supposedly good
things about them, like good
health things.
I wonder if I wonder if bears
eat honey for allergen reasons
because, you know, if you eat
local honey, they say if you eat
local honey, you don't get the
same allergies from that area.
I wonder if that's part of the
reason, not just the flavor, if
it's just instinctively driven
by them, by, you know, this by
being a bear, that that's a way
that they avoid having allergies
because they have, they breathe
heavy, you'd assume they'd bring
in a lot of allergy.
They have allergy problems.
They're around pollen all the
time.
So I wonder if that plays a big
role, and I bet it does.
Are you recently having some
allergy problems?
No, but my my daughter does and
she calls her, she blames
everything on her allergies.
She's 4.
So she'll be like, hey, Daddy,
I'm, you know, like, hey,
sweetheart, I'm like, it's time
to get a, to get, you know, get
a bath.
And she's like, Daddy, daddy, my
allergies.
OK, I need to take care of my
allergies, daddy, and then we
can take her to the bath.
Don't be silly, Daddy.
Duh.
It's like a new thing.
So she she likes honey for her
allergies.
I bet bears do that
instinctively.
Yeah.
Do you have bear problems in
your neighborhood at all?
No, no.
We have urban coyotes in ours.
Coyotes.
Yeah.
No bear.
No bears.
Urban coyotes Is that like an
animal or a?
Person, well they classify as
urban 'cause you can't, they're
not, it's not open season on
them.
So like you can't remove them by
unnatural ways.
That's ridiculous.
They're protective, Yeah,
they're protected.
So you can't kill them.
So like, I'm from Maine, so
coyotes are open season, year
round.
You can shoot them on your own
property whenever you want.
Down here, if you have an urban
coyote, you can't, you can't
shoot it.
And I don't think you can trap
and kill it either.
So that's just the thing, a
local thing.
I, I don't know how far that
goes.
I'm, I'm in the city limits of
Orlando.
So it's, yeah, it's like it's
urban.
So I think that's an urban
thing.
So they classify them as urban
coyotes.
You can't kill them.
Gotcha.
Do you have bear issues?
No.
Phil No, I have Raccoon.
Raccoons don't count.
I'm asking about bears.
No, no bears.
We have bears in Maine.
I mean, we have bears in our
backyard in Maine.
Not an issue but they they trap
and move them if they're if
they're in local areas they move
them pretty far away to try to
get them into more remote.
They always come back, dude.
They always.
Find their way back.
We've got a bear that has
visited our house probably 3 or
4 times in the past two months
and motion sensor goes off and I
get to go confront the bear so
he doesn't destroy our garbage
because that's what he's.
Going for you?
Confront him, Yeah.
Dear God, my favorite bear is
bear from El Oso Fumar and he's
not a bear problem.
Yeah, he's the he's the best
bear.
Yeah, he's a he's a good bear.
He's a sweet bear.
I wonder if he likes honey.
He does, yeah.
He loves justice, that that's
for sure.
Yeah, his child and.
And the cigar.
Yeah, really it's not hard to
it's not hard to do that.
Both of those things are really
nice.
Yeah.
Can you, can we move on for this
one?
Because I I don't have any
random honey facts beyond what
we just talked about.
But here's something that's
unique.
Imagine getting paid nearly
$90,000 just to slow your life
down.
No traffic, no packed schedules,
no non-stop notifications.
Just ocean air, quiet mornings,
and a tight knit community that
actually knows your name.
How much?
90 grand.
A year.
Yeah, well, let's get into this.
That's not a fantasy.
It's real life in Ireland.
I might have done an Irish
accent here, I'm not quite sure.
The Irish government has
launched a program called Our
Living Islands, designed to
bring new life back to its
remote, underpopulated islands,
and they're offering up to
90,000 of people willing to move
there and help rebuild these
fading communities.
These aren't tourist traps.
We're talking peaceful, rugged
islands where time moves slower
and nature runs the show.
The money can be used to
renovate homes, start small
businesses or create sustainable
living projects, basically
giving people the tools to start
fresh in one of the most
peaceful environments on earth.
Local officials say it isn't
just about filling empty houses,
it's about saving communities.
And here's a, here's an in an
Irish accent.
We're not trying to create
resource.
We're trying to relive back to
these islands families, workers
and people who want to be part
of something meaningful.
That's a terrible.
Without new residents, many of
these communities simply won't
survive.
So picture waking up in that
environment in the Irish Irish
waters, in an island, and
replacing endless screen time
with sunsets that look like
pulse cards and so those burned
out by modern chaos.
It could be the ultimate reset
button.
Is that like 90?
They give you 90 annually or is
it a one time deal?
Don't know, it sounds like it's
a one timer.
It sounds like it's a one time
deal, which honestly is not as
big of a big of a push as I
would want to permanently move
my life.
I wonder if you have to.
It must be you.
Go and stay for a short period
of time, start the business and
maybe you can leave after.
I'm sure that there's some
requirements.
I'm sure that, you know, you
have to spend X amount of time
in that in, you know, at, in the
island, on the island or
whatever.
Yeah, it'd be nice if the
producer of this here would give
us some more information on it,
to talk about it, I'm sure.
It would.
I'm sure he's leaving it out
intentionally to make me
struggle and be like, wait,
what?
There's no context to any of
these stories, right?
Yeah, that's weird.
Then I have to talk in a silly
accent.
In an English Irish accent,
because that's what that was.
I guess the good question here
is 1 leprechauns.
We have leprechauns on these
islands. 2 How much money would
it take for you to to up your
whole life, move your family,
move everything you're doing to
go live remotely on an island
and start, I guess start a new
life there?
What would be that number?
And it's Ireland, you know, it's
not like it's in the tropics or
something.
No, you know, I don't know.
I don't know if I'd be down with
that.
What if, what if you just use
the money, create a business
over there, live over there for
however the time is right, the
time frame, and then come back.
I mean, what if you were the
first cigar shop?
That's what I'm thinking like
you go over and you don't, You
make it your primary residence,
but you still live and you that.
That sounds desirable to me,
where I'd have the ability to go
back and forth and do whatever I
want to do where it doesn't have
to be.
That's where I'd want more
information.
If you're going to pay me to go
start a business somewhere, I
would certainly do that.
The number's a lot lower.
If it's uproot your life and
then go live there, that's a
very different thing.
So.
I got news for you dude, 90K
isn't a drop in the bucket for
starting a new cigar shop
anyway.
Yeah.
But I mean, how much does it
cost to build a building there?
90K doesn't even get to the
shelves, you know what I mean?
Like you're not even.
You're not.
You don't even have couches at
that point.
That's such a cigar business.
What business, I guess, would
you start over there?
Would you buy, you know, some
cattle or cows or sheep?
I don't know.
What, what, what business do you
know of that that 90 grand get
you 100% off the ground with by
the way, there's no, obviously
there's no customers there
either.
So what's the, what's the, you
know, what's the pole and what's
the plan?
If you start a business, what do
you do?
Well, I mean, I'm hoping for
some customers to be there, but
I would do something like a
karate studio or a jiu jitsu
place, or you just got to throw
down some mats.
You need open space.
It has to be something you
physically do a service in.
And then there would also have
to be some benefits licensing
wise, like you'd have to have
some, you'd have to get fast
tracked on things 'cause you,
you can get tied up in, in
licensing.
And I'm sure it's even more
challenging over there.
You get tied up at like if you
have a restaurant, you got to
buy equipment, you got to meet
certain health standards.
So what are they?
Trying most restaurants fail
anyways.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I don't like this.
I think 90 grand's not enough to
do it.
It's not.
And and they expected from what
it said, it seems like they want
you to like populate it, right.
So I don't know.
Yeah, I'm out.
Would you go for 90K Bootsy?
Phil Mcguffin.
To open a business, not to live.
You'd have to live.
I mean, I'm OK with like leaving
for like a year.
And then being gone and then
going back.
Not going back.
You'd disappear for a year for a
90K?
Yeah old.
That's bold.
You got you got kids.
Yeah, he doesn't love them
though.
Yeah, well, that makes it
easier, yeah.
I got one on the way, so
actually that gets me out of six
months.
She's like, I'm trying to escape
for a year.
It's 90K perfect.
Her feet are swollen.
She's angry.
She's agitated.
Karen Gobrah, this is this.
Is for the greater good.
I'm going to go to Ireland for
90K.
Yeah, I, yeah, I'd be out on it.
That's that's there'd be more
questions we asked.
It seems unique, you know, I'm
sure there'd be people that were
certainly interested to it and
probably position themselves,
but I'd want to know more.
And I think part of the reason
why we have more challenges, we
got a lot of things going on
business wise.
So I'm just thinking could I
duplicate things that I'm doing
over there or have done and I, I
can't duplicate anything I've
done for 90 grand.
Well, look.
Look, man, here's the other
thing.
You know, I know that that times
are very tumultuous right now.
There's a lot of turmoil going
on.
But the reality is, in my
opinion, it's the greatest
country in the world, United
States of America, right?
And I'm happy to be here.
So I don't know if 90 KS is big
enough for me to go somewhere
else.
Not even close.
I moved to South Florida for
90K. 90K South Florida.
There's cash in my pocket like
nothing.
No other things.
They don't want you move for 90.
1000, they don't want you down
there.
They got too many people down
there.
Yeah, true, true.
They're like, hey, we'll give
you 90 grand to stay where
you're at.
How's that sound?
But I guess these are already
people that already live in
Ireland.
So I guess if you're a business
owner for 90,000, you could just
move over there.
That's I have questions.
If this is secondary home, what
are the requirements for you to
do it?
There's a lot of questions to
ask but just on the outline I'm
I'm out at 90K.
Phil Phil Boots Phil is in AT90K
to escape the birthing of the
child.
Yeah, it sounds like Phil, be in
for about 20 bucks and we're
going to cover your flight,
going to give you a
cheeseburger.
You're going to live here and
say OK.
Well, with that move, he's
definitely not going to do well
on this one because we're going
about to talk about Valentine's
Day.
Every year on February 14th,
select Waffle House locations
across the country transform
their normally casual diners
into full Valentine's Day date
night spots, complete with
tablecloths, candles, special
menus and reservations.
Reservations.
Yep, what started years ago is a
small promotion to a handful of
Southern restaurants has grown
into a popular annual tradition.
Couples are often greeted by
hosts, seated at decorated
tables and served in a more
formal dining style.
A rear experience for 24 hour
breakfast chain best known for
late night hash Browns and
coffee refills.
The Valentine's Day menu
typically features classic
Waffle House favorites like
steak and eggs, waffles, hash
Browns again, custom toppings
and special desserts, sometimes
with limited editions just for
the holiday.
Some locations even encourage
dressing up with guests showing
up in suits, dresses and themed
outfits.
Not all the Waffle Houses
participate, but the ones that
do often book up very quickly.
Many locations require advance
reservations, almost unheard of
for famous walk in only
restaurant.
In some cities, tables are
filled weeks in advance by
couples who have made it their
annual tradition.
Employees take part in the fun
as well, wearing festive attire
and providing a more
personalized dining experience
than usual for many guests.
A mix of nostalgia, humor and
some genuine romance, turning a
fast food diner into an
unexpectedly memorable
Valentine's experience and
celebration of love.
Over the years, social media has
helped make the event even more
popular, with photos of
candlelit booths, heart-shaped
decorations spreading every
February across just the grill.
Would you spend Valentine's at a
Waffle House?
My wife doesn't like what it
smells like when I cook anything
in the house so I don't know why
she'd want to go sit in a
restaurant.
Just got an open kitchen diner
feel but she could be down for
it.
But no, absolutely 100% I'm not
going to Waffle House
Valentine's Day.
Yeah, that was a nice approach.
I don't.
I don't think so, but Boots is
down and so is Phil.
Yeah, we like the Waffle House.
We like the Waffle House.
Yeah, I feel like Palmer's
putting a lot of Waffle House
news in.
Like aiming for it.
Yeah, they make like
heart-shaped waffles.
Oh, 100% yeah, probably.
Yeah.
Yeah, I've seen some of this
online.
It is a it is a thing and it's
I've seen people dressed up.
It would be fun.
It's just if I was gonna, if I
don't go out to a nice dinner,
we'll stay home and do a dinner
at the house.
That's, those are the two
options for Valentine's Day that
I, that I personally enjoy.
It's a for me, it's a fun, fun
day to go out and have a nice
dinner and do something special.
But there is some unique stuff
here.
Valentine's diner dinner has
become a modern holiday
tradition that proves obviously
that romance can happen
anywhere, even under neon lights
and over a plate of hash Browns.
And I think you got a video for
us.
No, I don't actually.
Not today.
No video?
No.
Video you're rolling through it.
We are.
We're flushing this you.
Want to know how I know Carney
is really busy.
Because he's talking.
Really.
Fast, because he's just.
And as soon as the story ends,
he's rolling right into the
next.
One well, I'm not super busy.
I've been I've been I've been
how are you I Octane all day
today from about 7:30 in the
morning at my first meeting at
8:00, my second meeting at 9:00,
my third meeting at 10:15 and
then I had another meeting at
1:00.
When we started this that I, I
had one of my team members take
over on, which has been fine,
which coincidentally was
cancelled one minute into the
meeting.
You rescheduled that one.
So that was interesting.
And so everything I've been
doing today has been talking
quickly.
So that's why I'm moving through
stuff fast.
And in the middle of it, my
daughter had like a mental
breakdown today.
She didn't want to go to school
right off.
I get it.
So that was fine.
And so, yeah, it's been a quick
day.
Yeah.
That's why with this Valentine's
one, I tried to slow it down a
little bit.
Yeah.
And focus on love and emotion.
Right.
Yeah, Thank you very much.
Yeah.
Are you, are you trying to get a
job at STG?
Is that what you're doing?
75 meetings, right in one day,
Right.
Talking fast, moving fast.
Even if they cancel, you're on
to the next one.
Yeah, that's what you're doing.
Yeah, I guess.
You want to give?
I think that you you could
replace Justin Andrews.
Let's be honest, Justin.
Yeah, well, I mean, I would love
to work, you know, alongside of
me and I do some dominant
things.
I.
You're about the same height,
you know, You're both kind of
tall.
I'm taller than dust.
You're taller than Dustin.
I think I'm taller.
So it's an upgrade.
So.
So it's.
Just in physical stature.
Yeah, and height alone.
You know what, he and I might be
close in height now as you think
about it, I think.
But I'm looking at him, I look
almost eye to eye to him in when
I look in my head at how we
communicate.
He did have like the Hennessy
truck I think.
He had a Hennessy.
Truck.
Yeah, I think so.
Like the Hennessy.
Edition, Yeah.
Yeah.
So he might beat you on the on
the vehicle.
Well, he's also, he's been there
for 10 years.
It's, you know, they're, they're
paying him, paying him well now.
Yeah, and he has a good
strategy.
What he does is he avoids all
the Christmas parties 'cause
that's when they fire everybody.
So he he doesn't go to the.
Christmas parties are like their
beginning of the year meetings,
yeah.
That's when he that's when he
cuts out.
He's like, oh, I got a thing.
And he just doesn't show up.
So and then what they do is they
forget about it.
If they were going to fire him,
they just like they move on
because they don't want to do it
come January.
They really fired people at
their Christmas party.
They fired Jack Terano.
That's Chris.
That's the ongoing joke, dude.
Dear God, that's supposed to be
the time when they're supposed
to give back to the employees.
They are giving back.
They're giving you back to your
family.
They're giving back to their
ROI.
I had heard that Sean Hardiman
was let go during his sales
meeting with his team.
Really.
Yeah, that's like being arrested
at a press conference.
Yeah, yeah.
That's cold blooded.
That's super cold blooded.
Wow.
Yeah, I heard that.
And I I had heard that when we
talked about this originally on
the show.
And I took it another way
because Sean's a really good
friend of mine.
And, you know, and Jack had
said, oh, I'm wrong, but Jack
would be an expert at getting
fired by STG.
Yeah, So he would know.
Yeah, he knows how to fuel the.
Grill.
Yeah.
So I didn't realize the
Christmas party.
Man, that's brutal.
Did he have any?
Is he talking about this
publicly with you guys?
Publicly?
Oh.
Yeah, we bring him up all the
time.
Has he, did he have like any
inkling that that was coming up?
No.
It's.
Awful nastiness and I'm glad
he's with Espinoza.
Man, Espinoza's a good dude.
Yeah, Eric takes care of.
Him and he, if he was going to,
if he was going to be done with
you, you would know it well
before and.
Yeah, he'd see it coming.
Yeah, and he would be right up
in your.
He would let you know.
He's direct.
And man, he the show you guys
had with him where he talked
about how he treats his people,
Yeah, was epic.
And he truly does do that,
right?
And he's he's a really good guy.
And I said I'm glad Jacks with
him and they got a good group of
people over there.
What?
Are you looking for lighter?
No, I was looking for the next
the remote for the show here,
but we came up with something
good.
But yeah, Eric's a good guy.
Man.
That was a great show you guys
had.
Yeah, and and that's genuinely
him A. 100%.
Yeah, because if it wasn't, you
would know quick.
Yeah, Yeah.
OK.
All right, go ahead, hit the
next step.
It's.
Brutal.
I don't think I want to go to
SGG then.
Oh, it's, it's got a big enough
check, I mean.
Yeah, I guess, I guess.
It's not 90K.
Finally into the some cigar
news.
A new bill.
See, I'm relaxed.
Now, yeah, yeah, you.
See a new bill introduced into
Tennessee LED legislature would
make it illegal for retailers to
ship cigars direct to consumer
in the state and add
complications to local
retailers.
SB-2862086, also known as the
Tobacco Product Retail Licensing
Act, would add new rules for
retailers wanting to do business
in the state.
The bill would place tobacco
products under authority up the
Tennessee Alcohol Commission and
would require any retailer who
wants to sell tobacco vaping
products to get a new tobacco
product retail license, which
include a $250 application fee
and an annual $250 renewal fee.
Penalties for violating rules
related to the rules would start
with a civil case and
additionally could have fines up
to $20,000 in suspension of of
the license.
In addition, the bill would
empower the Tennessee Alcohol
Commission to conduct underage
compliance checks, seize
contraband products and keep its
own database of license holders
for consumers.
The largest change would be that
it would ban the sale of any
tobacco and vaping products that
are not sold in person.
The bill says all sales and
products must be conducted in
person to the licensed location.
It is unlawful for a licensed
product retailer or the
retailer's agents or employees
to sell, offer or sale of or
deliver tobacco product to
consumer in the manner other
than in person.
All right, so there's a bunch
more here, but the question is
how does this impact shipping
cigars into the state from
outside retailers?
Right.
Second, Tennessee doesn't have
tobacco licenses currently
correct?
And 3rd, do a lot of Tennessee
retailers do e-commerce
internally in the state I guess
would be the other question that
I would ask.
So how does it impact one the
the the?
The cigars retailers.
Do the same, yeah.
How does it impact the retailers
into the state shipping in?
And then how does it impact the
retailer's new licensing, right?
And then how does that impact
them?
And are they actually shipping
in, in and around the state?
OK, so like the first thing is
as an online retailer, do you
honor that?
Do you honor that law, right?
Because maybe your bigger guys
will some, maybe some of your
smaller guys won't, right.
And if they don't, how would you
know?
How would you know?
Because if you send something
through the United States Postal
Service, you have to require a
warrant in order to open it,
right?
You can't just open up random
packages to verify what's in
them and what's not.
Well, you can, but it's legal.
Yeah.
So you how would you do, how
would you put anything in court
at that point if you obtained
that information illegally?
Well, if a retailer shipped a
package to somebody that was
involved in the politics of this
whole thing.
And says, hey, I got a person.
Yeah, I caught one.
Right.
This one will ship to Tennessee,
right?
OK, so now if it's a civil
thing, how does it enforced?
You're going to go to court and
they're going to say, hey, you
owe some of.
Them.
I don't see how that's civil.
Well, that's what they stated
they.
No, I know, but that just seems
backwards to me.
Like yeah, it shouldn't be
civil.
Yeah.
So, so step number one is it
seems completely obnoxious to me
as far as retail going into the
state.
You you want to comment on that?
I don't know what their goal is
with it because it said shipped
in within the state.
So is it, is it going to stop
people from shipping into the
state?
I don't know.
Generally what happens with
these things is what they're
trying to do is collect more
tax.
So this is all about not, not
age verification.
They care about that, but they
use that as the, the leading
picture 'cause that's
provocative.
And the general consensus stuff
is when this happens, the next
thing that comes as a tax
increase and collection of
taxes.
So I, I'm assuming that's what
they're trying to do and they
don't, they don't really have
license.
They have business license, but
they don't have strict tobacco
licenses.
So I would venture shipping in
the state, they're not going to
have a lot of control over that.
I think that's a much more
elaborate process to participate
in.
You have to get the Postal
Service on board UPS or anybody
that's shipping in to the state
to do that with you.
Then you got to get people to
cooperate on a, on a
distribution level of who's
distributing into the state.
And then you have to get online
retailers to work with you.
And if you don't have Nexus in
that state, how are they going
to determine it?
But Nexus is a big deal now.
And that's, that's come into
play with Amazon where you not
pay taxes on online things, you
know, gone to the days where you
don't pay taxes in the states
anymore.
Tobacco tax is the next one
coming up.
And I would assume Tennessee's
probably taking some notes from
some other states because
there's products that we ship in
some of the businesses I have
that we collect tobacco tax on
it now in the state, right?
And remit it every month.
Right.
So this is I, this would, this
looks to me like that's what
they're trying to do.
Yeah, long term, short term,
it's like we need to age verify.
We need to have proper licenses
because you're trying to, we're
trying to make sure the
businesses run as authentically
and ethically as possible to
make sure that we age verify
that this doesn't get in the
hands of children.
Right.
And then the next step is, is
that you know what we talked
about.
You're kind of hinting into
something that we talked about
on this upcoming Patreon, which
is interesting, but all right,
So what was the second thing?
What was #2?
#2 is the there's no licenses in
the state currently from
tobacco?
Yeah, I think that's a moot
point.
Right.
That's a collection fee on that,
like, oh, it's an extra fee.
It's $250 for the license.
It's nominal.
If your business can't afford a
$250 license, you've got some
other challenges.
But so that's a moot point.
So they will collect.
They will collect good business,
you know, good money off it.
Say there's 1000, you know, 1000
retail outlets that can now have
to be licensed.
You know, you can collect some
revenue.
And then out of those, say out
of those thousands, it's
probably more, but out of those
thousand, you know, now you have
an, A, an avenue of, of revenue
generation where you can go and
catch them.
I don't fully understand the,
the regulation now that they're
trying to push even when it
comes to the vape.
And the reason why I say that is
because a lot of kids have
already moved on from that.
You know, the, when you're
trying to control the
consumption of underage
anything, right?
By the time the, the, the
regulation and the legislation
passes through, they've already
moved on.
These pouches are taking over.
They're everywhere.
You have no idea if somebody has
it in their mouth or not.
And you're not going to be able
to control it, right?
It's, it's provided that you
have to be 21 or older to get
it.
But yet I still see kids with
it, you know, So like, what's to
what end to where did you know?
Like, what's the difference?
I don't, I don't understand the
forcing of the regulation when
at the end of the day it's not
going to stop or prevent
anything, but it maybe will
increase some some sort of
taxation.
That's why I always look, it's
always, it's the easiest way to
tax is through control, right?
So if you can control the entire
environment, then you can tax at
percentage with you.
And there's a portion of the
population that doesn't object
to that.
Right or wrong, I object to more
taxes on things, anything
period.
But they don't object to it,
especially in things that don't
impact them or they don't see
impact them.
So it's, it's interesting this,
this, it's always hidden as a,
as a revenue generating activity
because the, the government's
don't have to make, they don't
have to break even on the books,
right?
They can, they can run at
deficits, but so they're trying
to maximize the amount of money
they can bring in to do new
things.
So I, I, anytime this stuff
comes up, it's always about
money because we're educated as
consumers, we're educated as, as
a society to, you know, smoking
cigarettes is bad for you.
People still do it.
If they wanted you to actually
stop, they just get rid of it
like fully and say, hey, it's
illegal.
You know, the the government
come in and shut you down.
Now they tried, but what do they
do?
They made the cigarette
businesses bigger than they ever
were because now they can
control all of them.
They're all in on it together
and they maximize the amount of
money that they can pull out of
it.
And the consumer's the one that
pays for it.
So any of these things, in my
opinion, are always revenue
driven at the end of the day,
whether they say it is or isn't
it, it's there 'cause they
wouldn't do it if it was a cost
saving measure.
They're not.
They're not in business of
saving money.
So what was #3?
#3 was shipping shipping
internally in the state.
Does a retailer actually ship
internally in the state that
heavily?
You know, what's really kind of
interesting is I've noticed that
through search engine
optimization and all these other
things that the all those SE OS
will actually organically
promote you within your state or
kind of locally even when you
have an online site and an
online presence.
So it's very possible that it
will affect those even smaller
retailers that have figured out
how to kind of compete in the
smaller landscapes in those
smaller areas.
Yeah, I think it's easy for us
to talk about that being in
Florida when we're in one of the
top five cigar markets in the
United States, arguably #3 true
behind we might be #1 yeah, if
you actually look at
consumption.
What's number one and two?
Yeah.
Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania
just because of distribution
networks, California because of
population, New York because of
population, Just because they
don't have the number one
selling doesn't mean they're not
the top consumers of it.
Florida's, Florida's one or two
probably in selling and
consumption.
So if you look at that Texas,
same thing, selling and
consumption.
By the way, Bear was #5 on that,
the top five.
Tennessee it is small in
comparison population size,
it's.
Tiny How many retailers are you
in there?
There's a good amount, but it's
in relation to these big.
You see this type of stuff in
California, New York, Illinois.
You try to see these efforts in
Texas and Florida, but they they
don't work because they see the
business side of it and they'd
rather keep the money in the
business hands and then do smart
regulations, you know, they
smart regulations in all those
states.
So I'm not convinced there's a
lot of internal shipping in
Tennessee.
So at the plays got to be to
stop the stuff, stop the
products from coming in, out of
state.
Because in Florida, if somebody
searches for cigars, if I search
for cigars in Central Florida,
cigar hustler pops up.
OK.
And your website pops up so it
shows you as a store and it
shows you as a retailer.
So you got SEO coming from
different angles.
If I'm around you, you know, in
a certain mileage basis in
Tennessee, if you search cigars
on Google like I right now, I
bet if we search cigars cigar
shipping Tennessee it's probably
CIJR famous best cigar prices
cigar all these places right?
I I guarantee you cigar shipping
Tennessee the top five are not
retailers in.
Tennessee.
So you're not accidentally
running into it in my opinion.
So that's an interesting one
that's thrown in there.
And I don't know how the wording
is, but that would venture to
see that they want to track
things that are coming in that
are getting shipped.
And you said civil, you know, so
some of these civil cases would
be interesting.
That makes me think that this is
a step towards taxing products
coming into the state of
Tennessee and reporting the
state.
And the way to do it is very
simple.
The distributors distributed
into the state must register in
the state.
If you register into the state
and you're a distributor and
then you sell the retailers or
you sell the consumers and
you're already registered and
you get a report and then you go
and you're paying the taxes,
which I don't think necessarily
is a bad thing.
If a state has a tax where it
levels the playing field a
little bit I the taxes shouldn't
be absurd.
But you know, that's another
argument.
For we don't have taxes, so
you're not leveling the playing
fields at all.
There are local taxes.
So like say you're a say you're
a direct consumer retailer here
in Florida, you at a certain
threshold you're supposed to pay
sales tax, you have to pay local
taxes.
So those there are in there.
So the systems in place to do
this and it's even more in
advance than it used to because
the technology makes it very
easy in this card processing
companies now that automatically
will take the payments for you
and they'll charge you 5% and
pay your taxes for you.
There's a lot of them out there.
So this is you're going to see a
lot more of this.
And that's what I ventured to
see what we do.
And I'd be interested, I could
jump on my phone and see on the
website with Hooton Young if we
pay tax in the Tennessee
already.
If we don't, I bet that it's
coming.
Right.
OK, great article.
We hope that that bill gets
squashed.
Wonder if CAA is don't.
Get ahead of us.
That's that's, that's a totally
different thing.
This is about the.
Cigar Hustler Pod and this is
about our views and opinions
that we're expressing on the
show.
So I'm sure they're on top of it
or there's some sort of a thing
with this.
I don't I haven't seen anything.
I haven't been on any cigar
media this week yet, but I'm
sure there's some info out there
on it.
Except your podcasts.
Yeah, yeah.
We'll see.
I do.
You guys are all up my algorithm
now.
It's beautiful before I go to
bed, when I wake up, I see your
beautiful faces.
Here we are.
But the it's all about money,
man.
It's always about the money.
It's about the other states are
already doing this.
Tennessee's getting in the ball
game.
And this is the same, the same
blueprint they use everywhere.
It's so it's monkey see, monkey
do, right?
That's all we got for stories
and news today.
That's it.
Just the.
One, that's also the end of the
show according to me, 'cause
it's all blank from here on out.
Really.
Yeah, there's nothing here.
There was just the one thing,
yeah.
Well, Palmer really got out of
there as he's going to Ireland.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I can tell
you Shane Reeves, the Republican
from Murfreesboro was introduced
this bill.
So this is a conservative that's
putting this in and he's a
pharmacist track record of
calling for tougher state laws
on tobacco, so.
I'm going to call Palmer right
now on the show, yeah.
Get him alive, baby.
It calls over to Ireland.
Yeah, little do we know it
Palmer's taking the 90 grand.
That was the that was the show
right there.
Hey, you're on the pod.
You're on the podcast.
Hello.
Podcast.
Hello.
So we just had one cigar news
thing today.
Yeah, you had more news stories.
There wasn't any other cigar
news.
That's it.
Wow.
And there's no.
What's the score?
No, you pull your own.
What's the score?
Oh, I pull my own.
What's the score?
Must be with that video.
No, I, I did the, I did the.
What's the score?
What, Did Carney read it?
Or Yeah, would you?
Carney would have read it, but
now I'm going to do it.
Yeah.
So it's me versus.
Carney.
Fine.
Yeah, fine.
I'll just carry this whole thing
without you.
Yeah.
Goodbye.
Have fun in Ireland.
No more, no more for you.
It's falling apart.
He intentionally does this.
You know, I did look up the
cigar places in Tennessee.
Yeah.
And the number 21 that pulled up
was crown heads.
Oh, that makes sense.
Cigar shipping in Tennessee.
Yeah, because that's where
they're located.
Miguel would be an interesting
one to ask some questions on
this since they're based there
to see if they have any insight
or if it impacts what they do
for business.
If it would have an impact on
what they're doing for business,
it would certainly lead me to
think that it's, it's a, it's a
financial thing, right?
OK, so now I'm.
Going to get to participate.
You're going to participate.
Let's.
Go going.
To be you versus Phil Mcgruff in
a one run half wheels review of
what's the score?
He just really left me.
But all right, so listen, my boy
Jeff the score, My boy Jeff
Graner at Classic Cigars in
Tulsa.
Our boy.
Yes, one of the best.
Yes, Palmer's call.
No, you don't answer him.
Don't answer you don't answer
the phone.
You.
Already had his shot.
Yeah, I was going to read
anything, he said.
He didn't put anything on it.
You had one shot, one
opportunity.
I'm really surprised he didn't
put anything about, you know,
anything of Carney in this
whole.
Thing Alright so so my boy Jeff,
he sent me this one 'cause we
were having a good back and
forth via text and hopefully I
will read it in the in this
description.
I don't want to miss it.
So.
So it is from January 5th, 2025,
the Nestor 75 reviewed by Brooks
Whittington.
This is a redux.
Is it?
Is it Nestor 80 now?
What?
What year did you say?
2025 I don't know this is off
the cuff buddy, so I'll I'll let
you know as we go yeah it would
say normally it says redux it.
Does right.
So they hadn't reviewed I think
8 Nestor's 80 now.
Yeah.
Who knows?
Anyway, it was 75.
That's a cigar.
Sorry.
OK, so go ahead with you.
Who do you want to go?
No, you're the guest.
You decide if you want to go
first, you want to go after.
I want to go after.
All right, Phil, go ahead and
pick your number.
Is it Brooks?
Yeah, 86.
OK.
I go 87.
OK, let's see.
Cigar Review Nestor 75 Country
of origin Undisclosed factory
Undisclosed wrapper Undisclosed
binder Undisclosed filler
Undisclosed Length 7 inches
Perfect gauge 50 MSRP Not
applicable Release date October
8th, 2024 So it's not that old.
Number of cigars released 750,
boxes of 10 and cigars reviewed
3.
How is the price not applicable?
I don't know.
He must not have known it or
something.
Maybe what as we read on, maybe
we'll find out.
He's closed everything.
Everything's undisclosed.
Alright.
OK, 86. 87.
OK, first clue.
All three cigars are extremely
attractive, including dark brown
wrappers that are silky smooth
to the touch and spongy when
squeezed.
However, each cigar has a small
number of protruding veins and
after physical inspections, 2 of
the three cigars have small soft
spots located in different
spots. 1 is just under the
secondary band while the other
is halfway between the foot and
the bands.
Aromas from the wrappers are
very similar with sweet
earthiness, leading creamy
leather, barnyard, pencil lead,
stale bread, Baker's 2 spices,
and light vanilla bean
sweetness.
Peanuts dominate the scents
coming from the from the feet of
two cigars.
My last cigar features more
cedar than nuts, followed by
dark chocolate, sourdough bread,
dry hay, Raisin sweetness, and a
slight note that reminds me of
varnish.
That varnish note is quite a bit
more evident on the cold draws,
albeit not in an unpleasant way,
along with sawdust, cedar,
salted potato chips, herbs and
sweet leather.
Holy shit.
We haven't even lit the cigar.
This is no light dry dry.
Dry.
Dry, my God. 83.
You go check it.
He's so excited.
There you go.
This guy's got to stop drinking
bottles of Coke with peanuts in
the middle of his barn.
The varnish smells from the box
for sure.
It's I mean if you smell varnish
on a cigar that's from the box
of the band.
That's what paints the paint
they use in these things.
Smells like 83.
OK.
Sorry, 86. 86 So you're just
going to stay there?
8683.
See if I can get this to move
all.
Right, Hall, Let me see this
one.
Yes, this is the one I want.
Do you watch?
I just want to say this one.
Do you watch this portion,
Carney?
Of course, Anisha.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
OK.
That's part of the show, all
right.
I've guessed 1 exactly right
before.
Flavors of anise and black
pepper lead off the profiles of
the Nestor 75 cigars, but the
profile is quickly overtaken by
new main flavors of creamy
almonds and dry saltine
crackers.
Secondary notes of cedar, gritty
earth, powdery coconuts,
cinnamon, and roasted peanuts
show up at various points, while
the retro hail is full of rich
molasses, sweetness and a touch
of black pepper on the finish.
The first scarf features a light
but noticeable flavor.
This is what I've been waiting
for.
That reminds me of suntan
lotion.
Oh, he loves it.
Although it is only present for
a few puffs before disappearing
for good flavor.
Hits full, but the body and
strength barely hit a solid
medium by the end of the first
third.
Man, I give these guys honestly
though and we laugh and drug
well.
I give them props for taking the
time to identify.
Flavors.
I love this.
I absolutely love it, man.
You.
I'm sitting there.
Have you ever been to their
offices?
No.
So it's, it's a big office, it's
a nice spot and I'm sitting
there just imagining them in
that office like taking the time
and they do take the time and
they show the smoking time and
this cigars that they've smoked
at like 3 hours smoking time
that like an hour and 5 minutes.
For me.
It's because they're really
trying to identify it.
That's a drop.
But to drop suntan lotion.
Suntan lotion, varnish and
suntan lotion is wild, yeah.
What a job, huh?
All right, what do you got?
They're the best in the
business.
Well, first of all, he said the
word Coco nibs.
So this is going to get a score.
I'm going to go 80. 80 He jumps
to 88.
Yeah, Brooks loves Coco nibs.
Coco Nibs is a go to for Brooks.
Yeah, say 85. 85 OH.
OK, third clue.
Let's see.
The final third features main
flavors of peanut butter and
creamy hay, along with secondary
notes of plain oatmeal, creamy
cedar, charred meat, cinnamon
cornbread and powdery cocoa
nibs.
There it is again.
While the amount of black pepper
on the retro hail remains the
same compared to the second
third, the sweetness on two of
the cigars shifts to a honey
note, and the last one still
features a flavour that reminds
me of molasses.
Interestingly, those same 2
cigars, the first and last ones,
retain the spiciness on my
tongue, but around the time the
final third begins, that note
has receded.
In the second cigar, flavor ends
at full, the body does not
budget from a solid medium and
the strength ends at a medium
plus, albeit just barely.
Thankfully the construction
mirrors the 1st 3rd instead of
the second third, meaning all
three cigars continue to give me
no issues at all until I am
finished with them.
Third clue, Phil. 88. 88.
That's my final guess.
I'm.
Going to read the final thought
after that and then.
So he hasn't told us about his
issues yet.
No, sometimes it like.
He said that He said that he was
receded on one.
He hinted that there was issues
like I do skip through some
paragraphs, so he hinted through
that.
He did mention something about
in the second third of the cigar
where there may have been a
construction issue, but it was
kind of vague.
I'm going.
To go 83.
OK, final thought.
Creamy, nutty, and complex, the
Nestor 75 is one of the better
releases I have smoked and a
worthy creation for such an
auspicious anniversary.
The profile includes a multitude
of flavors and plenty of
transitions, and other than a
couple of minor burn corrections
on one cigar in the second
third, the construction was
excellent across the board.
This is not a cigar that needs
extra time.
It is ready to smoke now,
assuming you can actually find
them. 88. 91 This is one of the
best cigars he's ever smoked.
OK, so I have 88 and I have 91
and the overall score from
Brooks Whittington of Half Wheel
cigars for the Nestor 75 is 90
and John Carney is the winner.
Let's go, let's go.
Nicely done, Sir.
Wow, OK, find one of those.
Yeah.
Do you have anything else to
add?
Where are you going to be?
Anywhere in the upcoming weeks?
You want to do a shout out?
Yeah.
I mean, I got all sorts of crazy
stuff going on.
Tell us so Wednesday when this
airs.
I'll be in Fort Lauderdale at a
place called Batch Gastropub.
Interesting doing.
Some cigar and whiskey events
there and then I'll be in Delray
Beach on Thursday doing the same
thing with them.
And then next week I'm local,
which would be nice.
A little break to get caught up
on the beginning of the year.
Beginning of year is hectic for
me.
And then we're going to the
Great Outdoor Show in
Harrisburg, PA on February 8th
through the 15th.
So we'll be up in Harrisburg at
the Great Outdoor Show with the
hoot and young cigars and
whiskey.
So with BL, luxury is just the
hoot and young.
Just hoot and young.
Yeah, Yep, just with hoot and
young.
So it should be a should be a
great time.
We have a partnership with the
National Rifle Association and
that's their one of their
alternative shows that they have
throughout the country.
It's their second largest
besides the annual convention
and meetings that they have.
So that's, that's what February
looks like.
That's a big, that's a big week.
We're all hands on deck for
that.
So our whole team will be up
there for that.
So that's really what February
looks like.
I got Valentine's Day coming up
to the Waffle House.
Yeah, you got that.
Going on yeah.
And then I got my birthday
coming February 23rd yeah, yeah.
So we've got that.
So February's a big.
Month.
How old's he gonna be, 4242?
Yeah, it's you.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that's that's where
we're at, getting ready for the
PCA shows.
Honey, when we walked in, you
and your brother were talking
about it and we're planning for
all that.
Really that's what the first
quarter of the year is set up is
getting ready for the PCA show,
which is one of the reasons why
I like having the PCA show in
the first part of the year.
Because it just logically, in my
opinion, now that you've seen,
it just makes sense that that's
how your year should set up.
You schedule your, you schedule
your product launches for the
beginning of the year to get
them out through the year.
Where it does make sense that
the trade show used to be in
August.
So I was like, oh, we, we've
planned everything around
August.
Well, you've done that for 50
years, so of course you would,
but it makes more sense to have
it early year.
Yeah, so far so good.
Like the first year kind of
transitioning into it was a
little hectic, but now that
we're kind of rolling, I agree
with you.
I, I like having it in March or
April, you know, You know, and I
love the fact that's in New
Orleans.
I love it too, man.
It's great there.
I think they did a great job.
The show was great, the city's
great.
That time of the year, it's a
perfect time to be there.
But yeah, all roads lead to New
Orleans for me for the next 2
1/2, three months.
I mean, we're executing
everything now that's going to
be seen in April.
And and those products that
we're going to execute in April
and see in April are going to
be, you know, on the shelves a
few weeks after, too.
So great timing for me
personally, it fits perfect with
how business cycles work.
Not owning my own businesses
now, I really did enjoy the
transition, but we got a lot of
exciting things.
It's the 250th anniversary of
the United States, which is
really on brand for Hoot and
Young.
So we got some exciting stuff
for doing that whiskey wise and
cigars.
So yeah, it's real, real packed
with the HY for the next, for
the next two months.
Little little teaser.
Little teaser, yeah.
Yeah, Little.
Teaser teaser free zone here.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I think that this
concludes our podcast.
Thank you very much for subbing
in.
You're a great Co host.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Go to for me when I'm like, Hey,
what are you doing?
And I appreciate you always
stepping up and even if you're
an hour and a half late, it's,
you know, it's a.
I'm just sorry I couldn't do
more this week because once you
get into the groove, I can see
how Palmer does.
He just gets better as he gets
into it.
So I was, you know, I'm getting
better week to week.
I'm getting better show to show.
I was really looking forward
when we talked to maybe have a
couple days this week, but it's
not going to work with the
schedule unfortunately.
Maybe next week, who knows,
maybe we, maybe Palmer enjoys
that Ireland CS stuff.
He's stuck in Ireland.
Yeah.
You know who we have tomorrow?
No.
Pete Hernandez.
Oh, really?
Yes, oh man, he'll do great.
He's terrified.
Oh, he's terrified.
He's terrified.
He's going to do great.
He's asking Phil questions.
What's going to happen?
I'm like, you got to read from
the problem.
He's like, I can't read.
And I'm like, yes, you can.
Don't worry.
Neither can Terrence Riley,
apparently, so you'll be fine.
Yeah, he told me he was just
gonna bring his own, his own
stuff to Ria's.
And no, no, that's not.
How it works that way?
Yeah, Pete will do a great job.
That'll be good.
That's a good one.
Yeah, that's.
Awesome, and I still gotta
figure out Thursdays for Friday.
Show I gotta go.
I only saw the shorts from
Terrance.
Yeah, I think I'm gonna go back
and watch the whole.
Thing oh, it was awesome because
like he would not engage in
anything.
I'm like, OK, He's like, well,
there's nothing to say about
that.
I'm like OK.
Yeah, that, that's why I what
I'm watching is like, I got to
see the long form of this.
Yeah.
That was pretty.
Good man.
That's great.
Yeah, Pete'll be fun.
That's awesome.
When's when's Mike back?
He's going to come back.
He'll be back Friday for
recording for Monday's show.
If he comes back rolling around
with like new gear, a new
vehicle or something, you know
he took the 90K for Ryan but.
He did just get a new car.
He might, he might be on to
something, but no, I appreciate
you guys having me.
I enjoy doing it.
It's a, it's a fun time.
It breaks up the day for me for
sure.
And it's something I enjoy being
a part of.
So I appreciate you guys having
me.
Yep.
Thanks for coming on, buddy.
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