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July 1, 2025· 1h 24m

ACHP Episode 394 – “Robotaxis, Rescue Missions & $50M Weddings

ACHP Episode 394 – “Robotaxis, Rescue Missions & $50M Weddings

Transcript

Welcome to Episode 394.

Welcome back to the Cigar

Hustler podcast.

I'm your Co host Mike Palmer and

with me today is always my Co

host Mike Stepan Kevich.

And over on the tech side is Mr.

Booty.

And this is episode 394.

Mr. Tech Savvy himself.

Mr. Booty Booty, Yes.

Extraordinaire.

Exciting show lined up for you

today with some wild news

stories from around the world

and the latest updates from the

cigar scene.

So buckle up, we're talking

about cars that drive themselves

and mess up a lot, a real life

rescue mission on a Disney

Cruise, and super fancy wedding

that wiped out somebody's

Instagram.

And don't worry Smoke fans,

we've got new releases from a

Caliph, AJ Fernandez and Supreme

Leaf, plus a review that left

one smoker with watery eyes.

Watery.

Dickens.

And Mike, he has some things to

say about Joe Rogan and the

Liver King as well as Boots.

Trending Sports.

But first, yes, this week on

Saturday we have a ticketed

event in the Hustler Private

Lounge.

It's a BBQ dinner with Skip

Martin from Roma Craft.

Tickets include a a Roma sampler

pack, full dinner, full BBQ

dinner, private time with Skip

Martin and 24 other dinner

guests, as well as a live taping

of the Cigar Hustler Podcast.

I got to prepare for that.

Yes, ticket holders on the night

of the event and get 15% off all

Roma products as well as one

free pre release War Bear cigar.

Oh.

Hand those things out like

they're candy right now.

Well, you know, I'm very

generous at times.

You know you're.

Very generous man, you just.

Got to look out for people.

I just like to look out for

people.

Is that so wrong?

No, you're a very nice man.

A nice man.

Would you like to pick a name,

Michael?

I indeed I would.

Aaron Cooper, uh.

Oh.

Moving on.

So don't ask questions, boots,

just move.

Just go with it.

Just go.

Just relax.

Just I'm relaxing.

Just take.

It now you're ready, let's roll

into our first story.

What about Patriot?

Wait, wait time.

Yeah.

Oh sorry, why are we smoking on

the Patreon?

Just that's everything Bomber

here, yeah.

Golly.

Why do we just want to be

smoking on the?

For the Patreon we are doing,

How's that?

You got it covered with.

Yeah, perfect.

We're doing the Amazon Basin

Dagger.

It was hard to get.

They had to wait three years for

those.

We had to wait three years for

these.

There's a lot of Amazon base and

tobacco inside.

There's extra now because they

can make another whole another

there's.

A whole another batch coming.

Do you want to smoke this right

now?

Well.

It won't last through two shows.

You got something going?

Yeah.

I have something going, but it

won't last the whole show

though, right?

No.

Yeah.

So I'll just.

I'll wait.

OK, do you want one?

I already have one for the

Patreon.

I'm here.

I'll smoke 2 of.

Course you will.

That's fine.

I mean, I want one.

Yeah, you'll get one for the

picture.

No, no, no, he doesn't get one

out.

That's it.

Wait, OK, so all right.

So we're past that.

Are are we still doing the score

thing?

We're not doing that.

Yeah, that's what's this?

Yeah.

What's the score?

Watery eyes you didn't.

Hear that reviewed.

Watery.

Eyes.

Yeah, but before we go any

further, yes, it's the final

week for the 4th of July tank

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Oh my goodness, I almost forgot.

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Still available and if you buy 1

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We're going to have more shirts

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Crazy ideas, I got to tell you.

But we're having a lot of fun

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We love to see people

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So hook us up.

Let's go.

All right, story #1 this is an

update from last week.

Robotics gone wild.

Let's head to Austin, TX, where

Tesla has started testing

something called a Robo taxi.

Oh.

Well, we talked about that last

week that they.

Were a robo taxi.

The robo taxi's from Elon Musk,

OK?

Yeah, it's like a pre thing that

we did last week.

Yes, that means a car that

drives itself with no human

driver at all.

Sounds cool, right?

Well, it didn't go quite as

planned.

It never does.

When does it go quite as

planned?

He smashed the fucking Elon

Musk.

Yeah, he smashed the bulletproof

window on a live stage with the

Tesla cyber truck.

Oh, did he?

Oh, he was trying to show how

strong it was.

He put his fish through it.

Well, it's just he's a robot.

Start with probably.

You know.

He's like data from *.

Trek I would I would expect

nothing less than something to

go wrong.

All right, these robot taxis are

Tesla Model Y cars that have

special software to help them

drive on their own.

Elon Musk, the head of Tesla,

says people in Austin can ride

them now for a flat fee of

$4.20, as we mentioned last

week.

And someday he wants robo taxis

all over the country.

But here's the problem.

People started posting videos of

these cars doing some seriously

bad driving.

One car swerved into the wrong

lane where cars were coming

toward it.

That's normal.

Another stop super fast and the

person inside got thrown forward

and all their stuff fell on the

floor.

Oh, that's like a ride at

Disney.

There's even a video of a Tesla

robotaxi driving over a curb in

another where the car slammed on

the brakes when it saw police

cars.

Oh, no police.

That's maybe normal in some

places.

That's over for people, not for

robots.

How's it get a ticket?

I I yeah, yeah.

Who gets the ticket?

Who pays that?

Even though the police weren't

over in his lane.

Oh, so they were just like on

the other side of the road.

A group in Austin tracks self

driving car problems.

And guess what?

They already had to report a

safety concern on day one of the

test, a college professor who

studies robot car said.

Wow, that's a lot of problems

for just the first day.

Elon Musk still says everything

is going according to plan.

It's all fine people,

everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.

Nothing to see here.

And that millions of Teslas will

be driving themselves by 2026.

That sounds amazing, but after

seeing those videos maybe the

robot cars need to go back to

driving school before hitting

the streets full time.

Are you surprised that there was

chaos with this test?

On the first day you think there

would have been some type of

test before they rolled it out

with people?

Are you surprised the the.

No, I mean, everything has

problems, but that's then we fix

them and then we make it better.

Yeah, like this doesn't surprise

me.

You can prepare all you want for

for any type of experience until

you go live, until you're in it

like that's when things go

wrong.

That's when mistakes are made

and you and things get

corrected.

Now, should they have had

anybody in the cars?

I don't know, maybe, maybe not.

Well, how would you?

If you're going to go live, they

got to put.

People in listen if you died you

only paid 4 bucks, what's the

problem?

Well, thank goodness nobody

died.

Right.

Yeah, just some curb jumping my.

Favorite one is the one where it

slowed down for police, slammed

on the brakes.

Oh police.

Wait until you wait until people

figure out how to transport

drugs with this thing.

Oh, that's totally going to

happen.

You're going to throw it in the

Tesla?

Yeah, I don't know if it's true

or not, but I saw a thing where

if you're transporting illegal

substances in your automobile,

if you put it in a box and seal

it up like you're going to the

post office, the police can't

technically open your mail

without a court order.

'Cause it needs a warrant,

right?

Yeah.

But if a dog comes in and the

dog smells something, they can

open anything they want.

Probably.

Oh.

Can they?

Yeah.

Well then I guess they would

just detain you at all for the

dogs.

Yeah.

Oh, you can't open this package

like.

Alright, well.

It's you a smell.

You can't open it.

Well, the canine smells and I

get to now open and now I have

to detain you.

That's how that works.

What if you were to address it

to yourself with a different

return address?

Like I just picked this up.

I don't think any drug person

would ever address it to

themselves.

Possession is 9/10 of the law,

Yeah.

But I mean, I don't know what's

in this box.

I just got to the.

Post Office, It doesn't matter,

it's in your possession.

Oh my God, there's 3 kilos of

cocaine in here.

How in the world did that?

Happen.

Yeah, dude, come on.

It's not my laptop.

Like what?

Come on, mine.

Laptop when you go with porn on

your laptop.

I was going dark without

bringing it was actually.

Saying well, I thought I missed

something.

Tried to keep it G rated, you

know.

This is not AG rated Joe.

I know, but still YouTube is

sensitive about something.

Else, I just thought of

something else to talk about on

the Patreon.

OK, all right.

A hero dad on a Disney cruise.

Yeah.

Now let's go to the ocean, where

a scary moment turned into a

hero story.

On June 29th, the Disney Dream

Cruise ship was sailing back to

Fort Lauderdale, FL.

It had just finished A4, a fun

four day trip to the Bahamas,

but there's a little girl

somehow fell off the ship.

Oh boy.

Wow.

From the 4th deck, which is a

few stories up.

But without even thinking, her

dad jumped in after her.

That's right.

He dove straight into the ocean

to try and save her.

The ship's crew didn't waste a

second.

Over the loudspeaker, they

called for a special code M or

Mr. MOB is must be the head

overboard.

Yeah.

Mr. Bed Overboard much?

Must mean a man, I'm guessing.

Oh, it stands for Man Overboard

and it means emergency.

The crew threw life rings into

the water and quickly sent out a

rescue boat.

Thanks to their training and the

fast action, they found the dead

and the girl in just a few

minutes.

Everyone was safe and back on

the board and back on board.

Soon after, one passenger wrote

on Facebook, a girl fell from

deck four and her dad went in

after her.

The rescue team was on it

immediately.

Even though ships like the

Disney Dream have clear safety

rails and special cameras to

detect if someone falls, it's

still a mystery how the girl

went overboard.

Does that surprise you that the

father went out instantly after

their?

Kid No.

I mean, I would do it too if it

was mine.

I mean, I'd do it if it was your

kid, but I mean there are

probably some that wouldn't.

OK, and what about you?

Does it surprise you that the

dad just jumped instinctively

jumped in after their kid?

No, but what I'm thinking in my

head is how pumped the crew was

because they probably been

training for this ever since

they got hired.

Yeah, that's true.

OK, so where's the line?

Let me ask you that.

Where is the line for you to

jump overboard?

Let's say it's some kid you

don't know.

Would you jump overboard?

Oh, that's what you mean.

I thought you meant like, how

high I meant.

I thought you meant like, if

it's your kid, how many stories

up to where you don't jump?

Oh.

I dude it's 10 stories I'm

jumping.

Yeah, if it's your own kid,

yeah.

It doesn't matter.

We either die together or, you

know, yeah.

I don't.

It might be a little different

if it's somebody I don't know.

Yeah, you hold the line at

somebody you don't know.

Depend on the circumstances, the

situation.

I mean, you know, and sometimes

you get caught up in the moment.

You don't even think.

You just go.

Yeah.

Like there, there's a video

circulating, it looked like it

was down on the keys truck

crashed onto the side of it,

looks like the seven mile bridge

and the truck was dangling off

the side.

The kid fell out in the car seat

into the water and some

bystander just parked his car

ran.

He didn't stop.

He just ran and jumped off the

rail, right.

But that's a little different.

You know, you're not out to sea.

7 mile bridge isn't, you know, 8

feet maybe off the water if

that.

That's a little different.

And there was boats down there

that immediately picked up him

and the child.

What about you, Boots?

Cruise shipment of the ocean.

Somebody else's child that I

don't even know.

Yeah, I don't know.

It probably depends what time of

day it is.

What type of day it is?

No what?

What time of day?

What time of day it is?

If it's night time, no way.

Yeah, that water's dark.

Well, you're not.

You're not a boat guy anyways,

even though you're in the Navy,

you're not a.

Boat Guy Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he would get Navy flashbacks

about being on the boat.

So I can't go on that one.

Yeah, you're terrified of the

boats regardless, so daytime

maybe.

Yeah, daytime.

You probably can jump.

Yeah, I could see me jumping.

Yeah.

Yeah, without hesitation.

And I could see my wife losing

her mind.

Don't do it like she could Not

our kid.

Yeah.

Stop.

Stop.

No.

You know.

Stands in front of you.

Wait.

You know, that's the that's the

yin and the Yang of things,

right?

The organize the organization

and the chaos, I guess to some

degree, but I just wanted to

know that this type of article

is not helping, you know, the

Chevron Kevitch family getting.

On a cruise, it's still not.

Yeah, You know, they just

published the worst ships, too.

Did she pull?

That out the worst.

Ships the dirtiest ships.

Oh really?

Yeah, I saw the Netflix of the

The Poop documentary.

Oh, if you watch that, I just

saw the commercial.

Before I saw a highlight of it

and I'm like, we should watch

this and then we'll never get on

a boat, never get out of a.

Boat.

Was it a Carnival cruise?

I don't.

I don't.

Yeah, there's a Carnival poop

cruise.

Yeah, those are nasty anyway.

Really.

Carnival's allegedly Allegedly,

Carnival is the party cruise.

Is the party cruise?

That's the cheap one that

everybody can get on, so it's

usually treated a little

rougher.

Yeah, right.

And they have the adult type

games where the other cruise

ships really don't.

What would these adult type

games be?

Palmer.

They do like scavenger hunts and

they'll do like, you know, first

woman who pulls a condom out of

the purse or something like

that.

Oh yeah, or first woman who's

got a size triple D bra.

Switch your partner type stuff.

Is this like a heat check game

where?

It's sort of like a bingo type

thing.

Yeah, I've been on several

different cruises.

No, not swinging cruises.

No.

Are you sure?

Palmer, you've seen them, know a

lot about this.

I've.

Been on many cruises situation.

You've been on many cruises.

If you're taking children,

Disney's probably the 1:00 to.

Do, yeah.

I mean, I wouldn't take them on

swinging cruise, that's for

sure.

Well, no.

But Disney has the best child

program.

Yeah, they have a whole deck the

the no casino.

All sexual assaults are up on

the on these cruises and now

kids are jumping off.

I don't know man.

Yeah, I don't know how the kid

fell off.

You.

Would have to try.

Yeah, I'm glad the dad saved

him.

Saved her well.

I'm glad they were both fine.

It's a real dad.

Yeah.

This is.

This is like the Tesla thing

like oh man, is it?

Should we stop having cruise

ships now because one child fell

off?

No.

Well, that's the the one guy

poops their when my guy shits

their pants.

We all wear diapers.

Time for this scenario?

Yeah.

OK, let's all wrap up.

Yeah, well, everybody was fine.

Thanks to the crew and the dad.

Everybody.

It's.

Obviously a real dad.

Anyways, he's going on Disney

Cruise, you know what I mean?

Like, right, It's not a Carnival

Swingers cruise like you would

go on with your kids.

Yeah.

OK.

So here, kids, he he pointed the

kids on the Carnival Cruise.

He pointed up.

The DOE paid top dollar.

Yeah, you definitely paid top.

Dollar how you doing on

switching you you're you're

bringing the heat.

Oh, yeah.

OK.

All right.

Just checking.

It's all in Ginger.

What?

They're all all the cameras,

just.

Everything's staring at Ginger.

All right, a $50 million wedding

and a social media surprise.

All right, now it's time for

some glamour.

Let's talk about a wedding that

may be the fanciest of the year.

On June 27th, Lauren Sanchez, a

journalist and TV host, Mary

Jeff Bezos, the founder of

Amazon and one of the richest

people in the world.

Their wedding took place on a

private island in Venice, Italy.

And guess what?

The guest that was packed.

The guest list was packed with

famous names.

Oprah, Usher, Bill Gates, Karlie

Kloss.

I know who's sure that is

anybody.

I know one name that wasn't on

there.

Diddy.

Is that what you're going to

say?

Yeah.

Well, he just, he just sent

back.

He couldn't attack.

He's got to walk out, he's got

to go Scott free first.

So like that's got to happen,

which will be.

What was great is Jeff Bezos

probably got a decline card for

him.

Sorry I can't make it this year

having a lot of stuff going on.

Please give my regards here as a

gift of baby.

Oil, I'll see you at my party

next year.

Take this Lube.

Well, the Kardashians did get

invited, though.

They did get invited.

They did get invited.

They didn't get invited.

That's a release.

I was so concerned.

People think the wedding, the

wedding the wedding.

People think the wedding cost

between 4.646 point 5 and $55.6

million.

What the hell does he care?

That's called Friday for him,

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah, that's probably walking

around money.

Yeah, that's that's enough to

buy a castle or even a small

town.

But Lauren made even more

headlines when she did something

very unexpected after the

wedding.

She deleted every single post on

her Instagram account.

She went dark.

She just deleted everything.

She went Zero Dark 30.

And then she changed her name to

Lauren Sanchez Bezos.

Yeah, the other person was dead.

And posted 2 new photos.

One of them showed her in her

wedding dress, a beautiful fancy

lace gown by Dolce and Cabano

with a long train and high neck.

She wrote not just a gown, a

piece of poetry.

That sounds lovely.

Some people say she wiped her,

wiped your account to start

fresh with her new life.

Others think it was just part of

the wedding magic.

Whatever the reason, one thing

is clear.

Lauren and Jeff's wedding was

huge, fancy and full of

surprises.

And now Misses Bezos is making

sure everyone knows it's a brand

new chapter.

It's a new dawn.

It's a new day.

It's.

A new life.

Music like to choose another

name Michael.

Oh indeed I would.

I'm glad you were in charge.

Somebody writing these down.

Oh, you have.

I have them.

Oh, OK.

I'm like nobody's writing.

These down Richard Beard,

Junior, OH.

Nice.

Yep.

All right, boots, time for

trending sports.

Sing Bong.

Who you on?

Palmer yes.

Why are you on me every time I

just.

Scratch my nose too so that's

great.

My nose is very itchy today all.

Right.

Hello peoples, this is a long

one.

Is it?

Not that long, it's 3/4.

Of a Jake Paul tells booing

crowd Shut the up.

You can say that word on our

show.

That's fine.

No, I'm glad you.

I'm glad you exed it.

That's nice.

No.

Problem.

Well, he reads it the way I put

it on the paper.

No problem.

No matter what I put on the.

Paper after beating Julio Cesar

Chavez Jake Paul told a booing

crowd to shut the up after

defeating former middle weight

champions Julio Cesar Chavez

Junior by unanimous decision on

Saturday night in Anaheim, CA.

All the boos are words and

actually speaks louder than

words so y'all can shut the up

pop, Paul said.

Man we got to get this ink issue

ironed out here in the post

match interview while making

taunting gestures to the crowd.

I'm hip, I'm really hip.

I just beat your boy easy work

You're five wait till I get

going even more.

Mother Paul, 12 and 17K OS

appear to be taking the biggest

risk of his unique boxing career

by facing his most accomplished

opponent, 39 year old Chavez,

54, seven and two and in front

of and our dentally pro Chavez

crowned in Southern California.

This ink is really bad.

You got to practice your

reading.

It's not the reading, trust me.

I mean, look at.

This I read it, you can see the

sides.

Why is it messed up again?

We just got new ink.

It's a brand new thing.

I don't know.

At least yes, we need a new

printer.

At least it seemed like a risk,

until Chavez stepped into the

ring at Honda Center and looked

lifeless, barely throwing a

punch until late in the fourth

round for the Cruiser 8 bout.

Even with his famous father

shouting furiously at ringside,

Chavez fought tentatively and

tepidly against Paul, who

patiently controlled the ring

and landed just enough to win

rounds.

Chavez first mounted A

discriminable attack in the 6th,

and he delivered several

exciting shots in the ninth,

finally exhibiting the skills of

a long boxing career.

But he couldn't seriously damage

the YouTube turned puglist.

Pugilist.

Pugilist, who jumped on the

ropes in the celebration after

absorbing several flurries in

the 10th and final round.

The judges scored it 9990190892

and 9793 for Paul.

The Associated Press also

favored Paul 9793.

It was a 2 minute story.

That's not one.

OK, so Jake Paul obviously won.

He obviously paid him off the.

The story, for some reason, was

that he swore at the audience.

OK.

I mean, I can't believe people

are are you, is anybody watching

these stuff, these things

anymore?

It was trending, so somebody is.

Well, I didn't, did you?

No, no, I know he's going to win

every one of them.

Yeah, he's paying these guys,

bro.

It's just so is he paying these?

Guys allegedly.

Allegedly.

I don't follow him but they did

say I don't know if he read it

or not because I can't

understand him when he talks.

But the boxer didn't even really

start trying until like the

second or third round.

Right, like it's designed where

I think if the person wins, they

have they don't get paid.

Allegedly.

Allegedly that's that's a

conspiracy theory behind it all.

There's no I, I have 0 interest

in any of these.

Do you watch?

You don't watch these.

No, just.

First of all, Chavez is a great

boxer.

Yeah, this guy would plummel

Jake Paul.

Yeah, he took a paycheck.

Did the Tyson fight ever

happened or did that?

Yeah, it happened.

Oh, did he?

And Tyson started to to hit him

and, you know, it looked like he

got in.

He was like, what are you?

Doing Oh yeah, hey, stop paying

you man, come.

On Yeah, you got to ease up.

This isn't real.

And then all of a sudden, you

know, Tyson's kind of biting his

glove or whatever.

We talked about this years ago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know, man.

It's not.

It's amazing that kudos to the

guy forgetting the exposure and

getting paid the way that he

does.

I mean, that's fantastic for

him.

I can't believe that our society

still buys into it.

And then he was a complete ass

to Pierce Morgan.

He was on Pierce's show.

Oh, the talk show guy.

Yeah, and he was like, I'm just

trying to get your viewers to

watch my pay-per-view dumb ass

or something, and then just

hangs up on him.

Oh, it was a phone call.

It was like a Zoom thing.

Yeah.

And I'm like, damn dude, that's

just.

Guy's a jerk.

Yeah, very tacky, yeah.

Terrible, let's ban him and

nobody watch him anymore.

It's sad that everybody does

want to watch him.

I don't, I don't, I don't get

it.

I just don't get it.

I wonder how much the

pay-per-view made.

I assume it was pay-per-view.

You don't have the details no

it.

Wasn't part of the story.

There was no money mentioned.

I'm sure it was a lot.

I'll look it up for you.

No, that's OK.

Let's move.

On I want to know because we can

take a little bit of time here.

I don't think this guy does

anything for little amounts of

money.

Well, no.

Why?

I mean, if you get paid, get

paid.

Right.

So he'll keep doing it as long

as people are watching.

I'm sure it was over $50

million.

Let's see, I asked Crock, that

doesn't say.

There are no specific figures

available for the pay-per-view

revenue or buy numbers for this

event in the provided data or

general web information.

Unlike his previous fights such

as the one against Tommy Fury

which reportedly generated

around 800,000 pay-per-view

buys, or the Nate Diaz fight

with approximately 450,000 buys,

no concrete data has been

released for the Paul versus

Chavez Junior event.

JB also claimed to have

generated 250 million in

pay-per-view revenue across his

boxing career up up to December

2023.

So.

Maybe it's down this way,

they're not releasing.

Yeah, I think that people are

just kind of like, OK, alright.

I've seen enough, you know,

maybe it's just entertaining.

I don't know.

Yeah, he's like toting that line

between WWE and right.

Yeah, and real boxing.

I don't think he's toeing the

line.

I'm think he's there.

But like, these people are kind

of like selling their souls for

this, like, you know?

Right, Well, well to be honest,

most of these boxers that are

boxing against them in these

things, they, they don't make

this type of money on their pay

per views.

Yeah, not even close.

Right.

So I mean, one pay-per-view with

him is their whole boxing

career.

You said Chavez hasn't done

anything since 23.

No, I was saying Jake Paul, that

was what he reported from the

pay per.

Views.

Oh I thought you said Chavez's

pay per views up till 20230.

Jake Paul's Oh, OK, gotcha.

So I don't know.

So I mean that means that I

think that boxing in itself

probably needs to be

restructured completely Were

these?

Boxes a sanctioned boxing match.

Yeah, there.

He's figured.

He's figured this out.

He's figured out the loopholes

or whatever the case may be.

Yeah, it's sad, dude.

It's crazy.

So, you know, So, yeah, I think

that this needs to be fixed.

This is why boxing has gone down

the tubes for so many years.

Boots is already tired.

No, I've been tired.

It's 25 minutes.

Alright, Michael, let's hear

about this Liver King thing

that's going.

On SO, have you seen any of

this?

Yes, I have.

I started to pull the story.

Then you texted that you were

going to talk about it.

So.

OK, so Liver King is has gone

off the reservation at this

point, Yes.

And he started to go after Joe

Rogan saying that oh, I want to

fight him and blah blah.

Blah, right?

Challenge, Challenge.

The Liver King.

You know who Liver King is?

Liver King is.

He's this dude that was

originally eating like liver and

saying calling himself like a

primal woman.

Eat all meat.

And he believes that, you know,

all you have to do is eat meat.

But then it leaked out that he

was taking, like, $10,000,

allegedly $10,000 a month in

steroids and stuff to make him

as big as he was.

Yeah.

So he went out and made this

claim that he wanted to fight

Joe Rogan.

Yes, he started.

He started making videos.

They both live in Austin.

Do they both live in Austin?

That's what the story said that

I read.

I thought that he drove down

from somewhere else.

Oh, he said.

They both lived in Austin.

Joe Rogan would wreck this.

Guy, Oh my God.

Oh dude.

Well, he meant he, he mentioned

that part of, you know, I, hey,

I want to fight you.

I know you're going to kick my

ass.

I don't know jiu jitsu or

whatever is Rogan knows.

But where does the Liver King

live?

We will grok and find out.

In a cave far, far away.

He does live in Austin, TX.

Oh.

Look at that.

Look at you.

Look at that I read.

You're so smart.

So cuz he was that there was a

video of him driving as we're

driving to go meet Fine Rogan or

something.

Like that Supposedly in some of

the videos he had AK-40 sevens

too.

Oh really?

Yes.

So Joe Rogan filed a complaint.

He considered it a credible

threat.

Yeah.

So they arrested the Liver King.

They did, yes.

And they gave him a.

He's out on bail and he made a

video about being arrested.

What an idiot.

Why would you admit that you

have AK-40?

So he's got an.

Ankle, it's in the video.

It's not like he admitted he

like had him in each arm.

Have you watched some of his

videos?

No.

I've seen him on TikTok but not

lately.

He sort of has died off.

Maybe this is a way of

resurgence, you know, trying to

research his image or something.

Brand, his brand.

He still has millions of

followers.

Or maybe he was on meth or

something because like.

He's like a, he's like a wild.

What's that one guy that has all

the guns and the girls and all

that stuff?

Yeah, Queen liver, the liver

Queen or whatever is supposedly

works out too, but doesn't need

as much meat or something as you

do.

But he's sort of died off.

Yeah, well, after the whole

$10,000 a month steroid thing.

Right.

So how do you come back?

You pick the one of the most

famous guys and he's local, and

then you challenge him on social

media.

So.

Now everybody's talking about

Liver King again.

So I started watching some of

his videos to see where he went

crazy, right?

I gave up after about like the

six or seven video.

Like OK, this guy's been crazy

for a while.

However, I did notice in one of

the videos he's got a big

humidor in the background.

Oh, he's a cigar guy, Yeah.

Oh, did he?

Postonia Cigar isn't.

It I didn't see Poston but I did

see the Placencia Alma Fuerte

box.

Oh.

Yeah, and it was totally empty.

Distinguishable box?

What?

It's a very distinguishable box

that Placencia is.

There are some other boxes too,

but I don't know what they were.

He's obviously not clipping

anymore.

I don't know who's.

In all no, no.

Well, I've been on you.

You've been talking most of the

time, OK?

Dan Blitzerin, Like a Dan

Blitzerin.

He's just a wild Dan Blitzerin.

I don't know who that.

Is.

I don't know who that is either.

Oh.

So yeah, I'm like, oh, he's a

cigar guy.

I don't think he's ever talked

about being smoking cigars.

No, I don't recall ever seen him

smoking a cigar on his any of

his videos.

He's too busy eating all the

time.

Eating his meat.

Meat and bone marrow and, you

know, testicles and I mean

anything you could think of

that's.

Testicles.

He eats balls.

Yes, he does eat balls.

Yes, he does eat vegetables too

though now I think I've seen him

eat like a raw potato or

something.

Everything's raw, it doesn't

cook anything.

Right.

Do you think that he tried to go

on Rogan's show?

Like hey, I want to talk to.

You.

Oh, I'm sure or hoped that this

controversy would get him on

Rogan's show.

One or the other, maybe he

requested and they're like, fuck

you, you're crazy, we're not

having you on there.

He goes.

Oh well then I would like to

fight you and he's going to go

away.

He just went straight to the

death wish.

Right.

But I mean, look, it worked.

You watched six of his videos.

You wouldn't have watched.

Yeah, it's true.

I did watch them.

I wanted to see if I could.

So other people and I were

looking at going this guy's

crazy, I have to watch all his

videos.

See where he fell off but I

realized.

Now he's famous again.

I realized that I couldn't.

I didn't have that kind of time,

but I did see the cigars.

I was like, oh, cigar, how come

we don't talk about the cigars?

Now this'll die off and he'll

challenge somebody else.

Why?

Don't we talk about the cigars,

Liver King?

I mean, you want to.

Come on this show.

You smoke in the album.

Fuertes, right?

We'll have you on this show.

You can fight him.

No.

I don't want to fight.

You don't want to fight, Liver

King.

I'm a lover, not a fighter, very

passionate.

Think how famous we'd be.

If I fought Liver King.

Right, I'd be the corner guy.

Boots would be the guy with the

bucket that you spit in.

Yeah, oh, I'd spit in.

His bucket and his.

Bucket in the.

Bucket.

You know, they he carries the

bottle, squirts the water in

your mouth.

You turn and you spit it in the

bucket.

Come on.

I've seen boxing movies.

That's what they do.

Yeah.

Boxing movies.

Yeah, I'm the guy that yells the

direction to you from the side.

Yeah, and then I rub his head

when it goes really well, like

in Rock and Rocky.

Just real quick, is that the

only boxing movie you've seen as

Rocky?

Yes.

No, no, no, no.

They're Wolverine and the robot.

Wolverine and the Robot.

The actor.

Not.

Not actually.

Oh, he's talking about yeah, the

yeah where?

He yeah, where the robot still

or something I think is called.

Yeah, yeah.

Where the robot mimic cinema on

the side.

I've seen that one too.

So you've seen Rock Em Sock Em

bots?

Yeah, got it.

And there's some old movie that

Ricky Schroeder was in where his

father died or got beat up or

something.

That's an old movie.

Though, OK, I was just thinking

he used to talk about cigars,

that's all I'm saying.

No, that was my point.

Yeah, we shut.

He does all.

These he should eat them.

He does all these other things.

Why?

Why don't we talk about the

cigars?

Don't know.

That's my point.

All right, moving on.

Moving on.

All right, folks, it's that time

again.

Welcome to the Cigar News, where

we breakdown what's new, what's

hot, and what's hitting humidors

around the world.

From the fresh releases and the

rare finds to factory updates

and limited editions.

If it rolls, burns, and smokes,

we're going to talk about it.

So grab your cutter, spark that

stick, and let's dive into the

smoke filled headlines.

Nice.

This is the Cigar News.

OK, jeez Louise.

Trying different things, Relax.

I liked it.

All right, Michalis, blue and

red cigars hit the shelves.

If you like cigars, then listen

up.

Mccauliff.

Mccauliff Cigars just dropped

two new smokes and they're

looking pretty cool.

Blue and red.

Stop letting Chechi be T give

its own opinion.

I thought they had blue and red

already.

Yeah.

This is special soft packs they

call the Mccauliff Blue and the

Caliph Red.

These are box pressed Toro

cigars.

It's a special cigar.

New size.

Yes, which means you kind of

squared off instead of round.

They feel neat in your hand and

come in shiny new boxes of 10

cigars.

Both are 6 1/2 inches long and

have a ring gauge of 54.

That's a pretty big cigar. 6 by

54. 6 1/2 by 54.

So it's a Toro.

It says that's a pretty big

cigar.

What it says here I don't know.

I.

Get off the ChatGPT bro you got

a bail on.

This well, it's a combo of our

regular supplier of our news

stories and ChatGPT.

So it makes it more hours less

there.

Maybe go back to the regular new

supplier and just give it.

Give them their credit.

Give them their.

The blue cigar has a Mexican San

Andreas wrapper with a mix of

tobaccos from Ecuador, the

Dominican Republic and

Nicaragua.

Inside is meant to taste rich,

smooth and balanced.

Rich, smooth and balanced?

Yes, is it?

That's what Chat TBT came up

with.

No, that must be from halfway.

There's no way I.

Don't know.

It's rich, smooth and bad.

The red cigar also uses Mexican

leaf, but this one is a bit

bolder.

It mixes tobaccos from Mexico,

Nicaragua and even Pennsylvania

everywhere, so it's got some

extra kick that should be.

These two cigars were made just

for smoking, which means you can

can't find them anywhere but

smoking, OK?

Mcalp's president Dan Thompson

said he's excited people are

loving the blend and happy to

work with them with the team at

Smoke Inn again.

Was that the guy that sent us

the link to the YouTube thing

with the pylon room?

I think.

I think it was Dan Thompson.

Yes.

Yeah.

Holy moly.

The.

President of the company.

Look at that.

Look at that.

We didn't know that.

He just came out with these new

cigars.

Great.

Great for you, Dan.

Did Dan not watch the video

before he decided to tell us

about it?

Probably not.

But he knows hey.

Anybody want to guess the price?

OK, are.

The red and blue.

The red and blue.

Sure.

OK.

Is it?

Are they in sealed packs?

Is that what you're saying?

They were like 5.

Yeah, a little little 10 pack.

It's a 10 pack you.

Said a 10 box.

They come with shiny new boxes.

Shiny new boxes.

Do you?

Am I guessing the price of

individual stick or per box?

I have the individual price you.

Have the individual price, yes.

OK, Boots, you want to go first

or you want me to go?

I'll, I'll go.

OK, you go.

It's.

Macau 9 bucks I.

Was gonna say 1050. 9 bucks you

got it right on the head, damn.

Did you read that article?

No, but he's.

Read the article.

He's read the articles.

He will not lose at half wheels.

Guess, guess the score.

He refuses.

To he he well, he can only get

one of them 'cause there's one

current and then one old.

There's no way he can pick out

the old one.

I've never even looked at half

wheel ever except for when you

guys posted about Postagna. 9

bucks 9 belt Wow.

Alright, Supreme Leaf, Grand

Toro.

Oh.

Arrives with a new look.

Next up, cigar news.

Get ready for a big and bold

cigar called the Supreme Leaf

Grand Toro.

It's the newest cigar from

Arganosa Leaf and it's the

thickest that they've ever made.

So this is the purple with the

yellow.

This is the purple, yellow,

orange, or whatever the color.

This is Ginger's favorite.

Yes.

So, so you said a new look

though, Yeah.

Is it just the size of the cigar

or?

Is it?

Yes, It's a grand Toro.

It's a bigger Toro.

He's going to get into it right

now.

The cigar is 6 inches long with

a ring size of 56, so it's

chunky.

It's called the Grand Toro and

it's packed with tobacco that

comes 100% from Nicaragua.

That's called a puro when all

the leaves are from the same

country.

Puss with a ChatGPT acts like

we're idiots.

It's also a limited edition,

which means they're only making

3000 boxes and each box has 10

cigars.

So if you want one, don't wait

too long.

Here's something cool.

The Grand Toro also has new

packaging.

Oh.

It still keeps the orange and

purple colors that the fans

love, but the box is.

Box and Band got a sleek update

to celebrate Supreme Leaf's 5th

birthday, so they've been making

this cigar for.

Five.

It's only been five.

It's felt like 10 like years,

yeah.

Forever.

The company says the cigar was

made to look and taste special,

and it cost anybody, anybody

$16.

Supreme Leaf.

Yeah, Supreme Leaf Grand Tour

More.

Than that, That's a big cigar.

What is it?

And they charge a lot.

What's your guess?

Let's go 18. 1595 hey.

I was right there.

You were very, very close.

You must 16.

You must have read this clip in.

I don't know how to read.

If you like the Supreme Leaf

line, this one might be worth

it.

So light up and celebrate,

because the Grand Toro is

bringing the party to your human

door.

Bring it, put it, put up, put

up.

Put it you need to just not do

this.

All right, AJ Fernandez

celebrates 10 years with a new

world decision.

You're.

Blasting through these news

articles so.

It's a 3 minute read.

New World.

Now let's talk on someone who's

been who's been in the cigar

game a long time, AJ Fernandez.

Question or let us roll into it

a little bit, but.

You're supposed to be asking the

questions when you don't.

Even give me a chance.

All right, next one from Trot

JBT.

This is a great.

You want to talk about the Grand

Toro we're.

So excited for it's Richard.

Actually, I have a question.

I have a question.

Good, good, good.

What's the question?

OK, so tell me the size of it

one more time. 6 by 54.

It's a grand Toro. 6 by 54.

It's a chunky little Toro.

So what makes it a Grand Toro is

it's just a little.

Bit longer, fatter.

A normal Toro is a 52.

There you go.

Is it?

Yes, 6 by 52 is a standard size

Toro.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it's a 6 by 54.

So I was going to ask if you

would smoke this, but of course

you would because it's just a

little bit bigger than a

regular.

Tour, it's an LE, it hasn't come

out.

Yeah, it's come in 3000 bucks,

no.

I'm saying, would you smoke it?

Would I smoke it?

Yeah, we'll probably Patreon

that pig.

Terrence is down a Nicaragua

right now, probably getting

them.

I love the fact that we went

after Terrence with our jokes

and our short clips and he just

didn't engage.

Nothing he he do better.

I go after him almost daily.

Do you him in his khaki pants?

Yeah, well, there's Palmer with

his.

With the Kanki pants story.

So are you excited about the

size of boots?

I mean save my 54.

What do you think?

I think the sizers are kind of

silly, to be honest.

Yeah, yeah.

I actually kind of, I mean, I do

like what Skid does and I mean

Saka does it as well, like I

think.

Covering his ass.

He likes what those two do.

No, I think the games need a

need a.

Change.

Because like when you say a Toro

or a grand Toro, that to me a

grand Toro would be something

that would be longer.

I don't know, just in my head.

That's called a Churchill.

Right. 7 inches.

Right, I'm just saying.

Like so they're making a six

which is a Toro size and 54

makes it grand.

Right I.

Don't like Sinisafina has a

grand box press robusto Yeah I.

Don't.

Know right, it's a little fat

robusto, yeah, it's bigger

around.

Can see seeing cigars when it's

bigger around.

You get to call it grand.

Or just call it a 54.

They did.

They said it's a 6554.

No, you don't.

Everything's got to have a

Everything's got to have a name.

That's what makes it special.

Yeah.

Otherwise, we're all just

selling cigars.

Right.

Hey man, let me get the Supreme.

Leave the new 54.

I don't think.

OK, so we're coming out with a

bigger warbearer at Christmas,

and we're calling it the

warbearer of mass destruction.

It's a grand perfecto.

Yeah.

You want us to just call it the

big perfecto?

No.

What's the ring gauge?

What's the ring gauge, Mike?

It's a six and a quarter by 56

I.

Think he's the national sales

manager and he doesn't fucking

know.

I got so close sixty quarter by.

60.

It is a six and a they get 6 1/4

right?

Didn't I?

No.

Is it a 60?

Yes.

So why'd you just call it the

New 60?

'Cause you who wants to call it

by number?

This guy's in charge you.

Want to call it by the number?

This guy's in charge.

I'm surprised you didn't ask

ChatGPT what the new size of the

new war.

Barrel.

I don't have it handy right

here.

My phone's over there.

Well, Michael, the the new

warbearer, the beautiful size is

the new delicious, are you?

Trying to turn around to me.

You want us to call everything

by the number?

No, I know.

I think it should be the number.

I like that he's attacking you

now.

Well, it's because you're trying

to deflect.

No, it wasn't.

You're in construction business.

If somebody just go and go, I

would like A50 Kitchen.

I would like the 42 inch upper

cabinets, yeah.

Well, that's a 42 inch upper

cabinet because that's what it's

called.

But they don't come in and go.

I would like the 72 bathtub.

I bet you the Grand Toro

cabinets would sell better than.

That's right, Grand Toro.

I would like the Grand Toro.

Yeah, well, we can give you the

premium grand Toro ones, or you

could take the standard 42

inches.

Give me the grand Toros.

I don't.

Know right?

I'd like the grand Toro that

sounds.

Great over the 42 or the 54?

Either one.

Yeah, it's a grand.

Oh, now he's shutting down.

I'm not sure I know.

So are you excited about the

size or are you going to smoke

the cigar or no?

Of the Which one?

The Supreme Leaf, 6 by 54.

The 54?

Oh yeah, I mean, are you going

to smoke the 54?

Basically, why the Hell's my

nose so itchy today?

It's.

Basically a Toro.

So you're the grand Toro.

Yeah, it's a grand Toro.

So you you will buy it.

I would buy it and you would

smoke it.

I would smoke it.

Would you smoke it in front of

ginger and be like this is great

and not let him partake?

No, I would.

I would get him a cigar.

Too.

You get him one too?

Yeah, All right.

Just checking he's.

Very nice that way here.

Yeah, it's very nice.

He used to buy us stuff.

Palmer, are you?

Except would you?

Would you?

I don't.

I don't like their cigars.

You don't like?

I'm not a bit gay.

The Supreme.

Leaf.

The Supreme Leaf is the best

cigar out of the whole.

The supreme Leaf.

I agree.

Well, yes, it's a supreme one.

The Supreme Leaf is the best

agonorsa that they make.

That's why it's called Supreme.

Right.

I can only smoke.

There's cigars of Terrence's

here.

So you need him around all the

time.

If I'm going to smoke his stuff,

yes I need him.

Around you need Terrence

present, yes.

They're all bad.

Their tobacco's not bad.

They have some of the best

tobacco in the industry, I.

Find it to be a little bitter.

I don't know why, I just just

don't.

Just all their tobacco in

general.

Yeah, I just not a fan.

Not the personal.

Terrence, you're a wonderful

man.

You're very tall.

The Homer Simpson one did Well,

what was it called?

Homer Simpson, Yeah.

What was that one?

The.

Arsenio.

The Arsenio.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, well, well, what about?

Like the the.

Rare leaf was good.

I didn't like the rare.

Yeah, but it's not supreme.

It's only rare.

The Supreme was better than the

rare.

And then the Connecticut's good.

The Connecticut Rare Supreme.

No, no, just the.

Regular.

I like the Connecticut that.

Greg smokes, yes, because that's

all he smokes.

Yes, I like that one.

No, there's another one.

There's a different one.

Yeah, there's the one with the

blue and Silver Band.

Yeah, yeah, that one.

Yeah, I like that one.

You like that one?

Yeah.

So you do like some things

aganorsal.

Yeah, just not the supreme rare

and.

I like Fabian.

Well, that's Fabian's favorite

Connecticut.

Fabian's amazing.

Yeah, I like Fabian.

Yeah, well, I like Terrence, I

mean.

He took and Uncle Paul he took.

Paul, he like a lot more things

than you think.

He took people, he took somebody

out the other night, but he took

them out for teppanyaki where

the they cook the food in front

of you.

Hibachi.

Yeah, well, teppanyaki.

Teppanyaki is what you call in

China.

Sorry.

Hibas.

Hibachi's Japanese.

OK.

Sorry, just what I'm used to

calling it hibachi.

OK, He took somebody out for

hibachi and they even wore the

Daniel Miyagi headband.

Must have.

Must have the napkins around

their heads.

Must.

Have been a big account.

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah, it must have been.

Oh, they were the little ninja

turtle.

Ninja Turtle head headdress.

No, they look more like the

Miyagi dough karate ones.

We're not making the hibachi

list just for yeah.

No, we get, we get tapas.

He's like, oh, we're never

getting taken to another again.

He's like.

Come buy it.

Come on by, I'll get you an

appetizer.

Yeah, that's about the hibachi.

That's.

About the extent of it, that's

the extent of this account,

buddy.

OK, what's the next story?

Long time AJ Fernandez got that

anniversary cigar.

Long time AJ.

Celebrating 10 years of his

famous New World brand.

That's been, that's been out for

two years, 10.

Years. 10 years.

I'm surprised that that one's

been out for 10.

Years.

It's not new anymore.

It's called Old World.

Old World.

Yeah, AJ has created us, but we

better not.

It's not.

It's old.

Age, the not so new world.

Why?

AJ Well, he made a cigar for us

at one point through Espinoza.

It was delicious.

I got news for you, Palmer.

Nobody is safe, OK?

Not a single person in this

industry is safe from our humor.

All right, he's he made a

special cigar called the New Old

World Decennio.

Decennio is Spanish for a

decade, so it's about honoring

10 years of blending and

rolling.

Are we?

Going to mention another name or

do you have you have 5 names

positioned in this?

OK, all right, just relax.

I am relaxed.

This new cigar uses tobacco from

Mexico, Honduras and Nicaragua.

The wrapper is dark and oily,

giving it a rich, powerful

flavor.

You can still get the decennio

in three different sizes, a

robusto, or is busto, like a

call it the five and a half.

The Toro is 6 1/2 and Gordo is 6

inches.

What about the gauge?

I don't say.

It doesn't say, just says the

length.

Yep, they all come in boxes of

20 and they were made at AJ

Sanilitano factory in Nicaragua

Which?

Did not burn down.

Which did not burn down.

Judea Judea Fernandez, a JS

daughter.

Oh, is that his daughter's name?

Is that how you say his

daughter's name?

I doubt it.

That's.

Funny, I doubt it, too.

It's right Judea is that her dad

wanted this cigar to be special

and to remind J.

Yeah, it is, AJ.

So let's pronounce H adelia.

Adelia, that makes more sense.

Yeah, mine's fans, why the New

World brand has been such a hit.

So whether you're been smoking

New World cigars for years or

just getting started, the

decennio might be a perfect way

to celebrate something tasty and

new.

New World.

New World?

Like to pick a name?

Michael.

Like New Day.

Yeah, new day.

Oh God, alright.

Barely not.

Medic.

Say everything fun.

Don't hit the camera with your

head.

Hope you got all still in focus.

You're in focus.

Corey Davis.

Hey.

All right, the last Calaveras

2025, A cigar to remember.

Up next to the cigar with a deep

meaning.

Every year, the company Crown

Heads makes a special cigar to

honor people who have passed

away.

That's all we were talking about

with the AJ thing.

Yeah, that was, I guess it's

over.

He quickly moves.

On Yeah, we were at 46.

Man, well then you shouldn't

have picked a name.

You should have said you want to

talk about it.

What's the price point?

$15 There's no way he.

Just came out with that it's.

New World The new world is

usually a value to.

Yeah, it's probably like 10

bucks or 12 bucks.

It's probably less than that.

Think so.

The Toro, let's see, 1250 for

the robusto.

OK, 14 for the Toro and the

Gordo is 15.

It's a decade.

Wow.

It's got a purple band.

It's got a purple band.

Oh.

That's what.

That's why the price raise.

And this is a limited edition,

is there production numbers that

are specific or no?

Not limited.

It's going to be a regular

production item.

Just the 5th anniversary, bam.

10th anniversary. 10th

anniversary.

I'm sorry, Bam.

Supreme is the 5th anniversary,

correct?

That's felt like 10 years,

right?

Exactly.

And the New World's ten years.

Right.

They must have a lot of those

boxes at those purple and orange

boxes.

What do you do all these purple

boxes?

I don't know, just keep coming

out with another one.

They're.

Going to make another cigar.

We should release our vitolas

one at a time.

You want to know why it seems

like it's happened so fast?

Because they've released Supreme

Leafs back-to-back.

In a single year, they've done

2.

Different.

Yeah, they just keep.

Yeah, just a new size.

Yeah, OK.

We could have released San

Andreas during the whole course

of 2025, just a size every.

Month Robusto.

Then I just holding the one

back.

And now perfecto.

Why are we Mexican?

What are the dimensions on the

perfecto?

What's the dimensions of the

perfecto?

5 1/2 by 50, Michael.

It's no. 6 1/2 by 50 it's five

and a quarter it's a 50.

I got the 50.

I got the 50 right.

You know, I got all the blends

down now.

You gave me a hard time.

It's a 5 by 50.

We're so close.

Just read the next story,

Palmer.

Close but no cigar buddy.

You have saddened me a great

deal.

I got the blends down.

Now this is like Obi Wan with

Anakin as he's kind of burdened,

like you were the chosen one and

then I had to set you ablaze.

Cigar with deep meaning.

Every year, the company crown

heads.

Makes Las Calaveras.

Yes, for people who have passed

away.

It's called the Las Las

Calaveras, which means the

skulls.

Les skulls.

And Spanish is based on the

Mexican holiday Dia de Los

Muertos, or Day of the Dead, The

Day of the Dead.

This year, the 2025 version is

on its way to stores in July.

And it's something the cigar

fans look forward to every year.

Do you look forward to it every

year, Michael?

Yes, I do look forward to this

cigar.

Boots, you look forward to it

every year.

Whitney.

Yeah, Hello, Butch.

Yes.

Wow.

He kind of shook his head.

No, he did.

Like a deep blink.

No, I don't.

Why not?

I'm I'm not a fan of that one

really.

Yeah.

Why not?

That was the one that was like

pink, green and white.

It's a different color every

year.

Yeah, but I mean, this last one

it was.

Maybe.

Is it the colors or the cigar?

No, the cigar I like out of

crown heads.

I like the La Petisser.

La Petisser.

The LA petisser.

The LA Petisser, the pisser.

The pisser, the pisser the

pisser.

I like the.

Are we including Ozinger in

that?

Sure, Yeah, I like the

Bosphorus.

OK, Yeah, you do like the

Ozinger.

Yeah, that's about it.

I like the lost cows, the the

problem is that the first one

was the best one did.

That come out.

Probably past 10 years at this

point, yeah.

Everything's 5 or 10 years,

you're doing an increment.

It's.

Probably past 10 years, probably

12 years or so.

I'd I'd guess 12 years.

The new version uses a special

wrapper from Mexico called San

Andreas.

Everybody's using that now.

Yeah.

How about that?

It's.

Because it got good crops.

Which is only the second time

they've used this kind of

wrapper for Las Calaveras that

makes this kind of rare they're.

All kind of rare.

Well, no, that's the other

company with the rare leaf.

The Supreme Leaf.

They also have rare leaf.

Yeah, that one's not out yet.

No.

Well, I put up at.

That they came out with it, it

was already rare.

Rare.

Rare.

Rare.

No.

Something rare.

Rare.

Now.

Now they're going to make the

rare, rare, rare.

Oh yeah.

Underneath it has tobacco from

Nicaragua and the cigars are

made at the famous My Father

cigar factory, Nestle,

Nicaragua.

Yeah.

Nice.

So what's the binder?

What is the binder?

Tell me the binder.

It didn't say specific.

You don't know the binder.

It's not in the story.

Why not?

I don't know.

I don't write these.

Let me see if I can find the

binder.

One of those sizes.

There's 4 sizes with.

Prices.

Yeah, there are 4 sizes, yeah. 4

sizes with prices.

Well, there's actually 3 sizes

in the sampler pack.

Well, they're coming out with

four.

No, they're not OK.

What are the story they are?

OK, tell me the 314 and $16.

One of the sizes is a petite

lancero and it only comes in a

special sampler pack.

It's still one of the sizes.

It's 4 sizes and this one's in

the sinkler bag.

Crown Head says this year's

cigar is flavors of coffee,

toffee and espresso.

Toffee.

Toffee and espresso.

It's a big change from the usual

earthy or peppery cigars you get

with dark wrappers.

If you tried Los Calaveras

before, this year's version

might surprise you.

You might like this in boots.

I think you are going to like

this one.

Is the binder Nicaraguan?

It doesn't say.

What does it say?

Because they chose not to say.

Why not?

I don't know, sometimes.

Sometimes.

Can't you find?

Out.

I will find out before the

show's over.

I'm going to.

Contact John Huber and ask him.

John Huber and I aren't text

buddies.

Oh well then ask.

Ask the boys.

No, I, I go to the, I go to the

number one guy.

Yes, Miguel Chanel.

How's the shingles holding up?

The shingles are fine.

That's good.

They never really go away.

Yeah, it's like chicken pox.

I don't know, can you get a

chicken pox flare up?

If you get chicken pox, that's

how you get shingles.

Well, I understand that you get

chicken pox as a child.

You get shingles as an.

Adult, so they never go away,

right?

The chicken pox?

Yeah, sure they do.

They turned into shingles,

right?

I'm not going to all of a sudden

get chicken pox again.

It's the same thing.

No, it's not.

It's not.

No.

Are you sure?

Yeah, shingles, you get long

streaky marks on you.

Chicken pox, you get dots.

Did he, did he say?

Yeah, what did he say?

Vaguely says Nikko Binder.

Yeah.

Told you I'd find out it.

Took 60 seconds.

That's kind of vague.

It's.

Nicaraguan Binder.

It's like saying it's a 60.

It's like saying it's AI don't

know what size the Grand

Perfecto is of the war bear that

I'm supposed to sell everybody.

Says so like for the binder and

for the filler they usually say

just like country of origin.

Normally it's more common for

the filler, but at least the

binder you usually get some type

of reference.

I'm, you know, because like I'm

always curious to know what the

type of binder is, because the

binder can be, can do numerous

things as far as the way that

the ash goes, as far as the

offsetting of the burn, as far

as the flavour profile.

So I want to know what they did,

what the thought process was

with the wrapper and the filler.

And normally I can figure that

out with what binder they use.

Makes sense.

At the event this past Friday

night, Greg was talking about

the war bear to a couple people.

And the war bear story he was

telling was the catastrophic

failure story, how it was made

by accident.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So somebody was asking me and

they were saying that, well,

Greg told the system, that's a

different cigar.

Do you think he has like early

onset Alzheimer's or?

Something I just think he

doesn't know.

He heard you tell that story, so

he's just applying it somewhere

because it's a good story.

Catastrophic failure.

Yeah, how it got made, you know,

by accident it was supposed to

be.

And he's closed because it was

supposed to be the new war.

Bear.

It was made with the War Bear.

Originally, right?

Yeah, but Greg says that the

Grand Perfecto was made by

accident.

This.

Is why we don't let him out.

Right, all right, Rock Mattel

keeps prices steady of.

Course.

Except for once ago.

Yeah, do.

You know which one?

A decade.

He's wrong.

The really expensive one.

Emerald.

Oh, you're talking about the.

Contingency or some shit

contiary.

Cigars, are you getting more?

Copilot Roger Bird, actor I

don't know what's it called.

Let me keep up with the story.

I want to keep guessing Emerald

the Klingon.

Mostly because of terrorists,

which are extra taxes.

It would just let me hear this

story.

An extra tax is added when

cigars are brought into the US.

But Rocky Patel, one of the

biggest cigar brands, has some

good news.

In a letter to cigar shops,

Rocky Patel said his company

will not raise prices on most of

their cigars, even with those

new taxes.

That's right, most of their

lineup will stay the same price.

There's one catch, though.

Yeah.

So how is he able to keep the

price?

This isn't part of the story,

but we're discussing it now as

we go.

OK.

So do you think he has enough

margin built into this where he

can just eat the increase?

I mean, yes, yes, I do think

that that would be the case.

But is that what he's saying?

Probably not.

No.

So his his he does not have his

own factory, is that correct?

I don't know.

He might have a factory, who

knows?

Well I don't think he does

because the his cigars in part

of the story is listed what he

gets from where.

OK, so does if the factory

doesn't pass it on to him who

who ends up getting charged for

the tariff?

Is it Rocky Patel or the

factory?

Well, whoever pays the import

fees.

So Rocky.

So like the reality is it can go

either way.

Like if you if you handle the

the cost from the factory and

like you get shipment in import,

you pay that fee so.

The cigar that he's raising the

price on is because the factory

is passing the increase on to

him.

They're saying you got to pay

this.

Yeah, so, so, So what they do is

they gave it to him.

Soup to nuts delivered, and here

it is.

Right.

So the Java line of cigars,

those are the ones the favorite

infusion, yes, that's the price

increase.

That's because Java cigars are

made by Drew a state and they

decided to raise prices.

So Java cigars are your thing

that you might see a price jump

from 70 to $0.75 per stick.

Do they?

I thought they I haven't seen

those in a while.

They still make javas.

They do.

We don't really carry.

We carry the mint or the cherry.

We used to carry one or the.

Other we've carried them in the

past, right?

I mean, you know, like

realistically it's, it's big in

catalogs.

So, you know, why would we carry

it as a retailer?

Fans of Rocky Patel, other

lines, the vintage, the sun

grown or the edge prices are

staying put.

Rocky says he wants to help

retailers and customers during a

tough time, and keeping prices

steady is one way to do that.

Now that's what we call a smooth

move, Rocky.

Wow, dude, stop.

Don't do it ever again, OK?

Just kill it.

It was a good test.

I'm glad that you took your

shot.

Some things work, some things

don't.

I'm glad you too.

I, you know, I honestly applaud

you taking your shot for sure

because you got to always

continue to evolve and try and

make things better.

This one is, just for the

record, a lot easier to read

though.

Without the comment?

Without the commentary.

Yeah, I, you know, I look,

we're, I don't care what anybody

says.

We're in a recession, whether

you want to admit it or not,

right?

Yeah.

You know, you're seeing pull

backs from a lot of people.

You know, they had a great run.

It was almost five years of up,

up, up, price, price, price all

the way around, whether it was

cost of production, cost of

product, cost of shipment, they

parlayed it, they added on to

it.

You know, at some point, like

you have seen pullback, it

requires more effort to sustain

your sales in this year than it

did COVID years, five years ago,

without question.

So the real ones, the real

brands, the real product, the

real manufacturers or what do

they call them brand owners, the

ones that are going to produce

and continue to grow in this, in

this time right now, they're the

ones you're going to see succeed

long term.

You know, it's just, it's just

like anything else right now,

like five years ago if you

wanted to buy a house.

It's a place you have best offer

and it was a battle, right?

Sure.

Now, you know, it's like, oh,

oh, it's listed.

Oh, it's been listed for 120

days.

Yeah.

I want to take 20% off that

price.

Let me know if you take it.

Yeah, It's called a recession.

OK.

All right, the Travelling Cigar

Roadshow returns in 2025.

Oh.

What's that?

We talked about this last year,

didn't.

We talked about it last year,

but.

They're not really.

On the road, no, it's not coupe.

Not Coop.

We stopped talking about Coop.

He didn't cover our last press

release.

Ready to hit the road?

Because the traveling roadshow

is back for summer 2025 and it's

making 21 stops across the

country.

The Cigar road trip is like a

small trade show where cigar

makers meet shop owners and

fans, show off their latest

products, and of course, light

up some cigars together.

Big names like Altadiz USA, Cle

Cigar Company, Oliva and Rocky

Patel are all part of it.

They have a special special

events in places like Tampa,

Chicago, Dallas, Las Vegas,

Boston and more.

Oh yeah, I remember this right.

But it's not necessarily the

headliners like Rocky isn't.

Well, Rocky's not going to be

there, but he's the Rep I would

imagine is going to be there.

Yeah.

Each event has cigars, food,

drinks and even giveaways.

You might even get to meet the

folks who actually make your

favorite cigars, like the

rollers.

Is it open?

Well, I think they mean like a

Rocky Battelle you might meet.

Rocky.

Maybe, But you see how they left

it open?

You might.

Yeah, yeah.

No, it's not guaranteed.

He'll probably only be the ones

close to his house.

Yeah.

So the roadshow kicks off July

22nd in Fort Lauderdale, FL.

Who?

Else in that list, do you want

to see?

That's an owner.

That's a.

Guy Oliva, I mean from that,

from that list they gave, I

don't, I mean.

Who else is in that list?

Oliva Rocky.

General.

Celie All right, Christian.

All right.

Christian's cool.

All to this is I mean, So what

is?

All to this.

I know who did both.

Don't they have other brands

under them?

Is there anybody?

Monte Cristo?

I don't know, Mr. Monty.

Yeah, This is the guy.

This is, you know, the Cuban

brand that we took and we

started replicating in the

Dominican Republic.

This is like, what are we doing?

I don't understand.

So is this open to the public?

It's probably at events,

probably at art stores.

Yeah, it's a roadshow.

They just give the cities and

it's like exactly where.

I mean, can we just start

announcing our events on half

wheel?

Well, I think this is, but these

are like all these guys are

going to be there at the same

time.

Yeah, but like, who cares?

But that's what I don't know if

it's open to like you go when

you buy stuff for your shop or

Boots goes because he wants to

buy.

I doubt that.

I think it's for for consumers.

Oh, you think so?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's.

What it's Oh, so then it's just.

Well, that's kind.

Of maybe we should start

announcing.

We tried that, they said.

We don't.

We don't do events.

Who said that?

Charlie did.

Then what is this?

That's what I'm saying.

It sounds like a small trade

show.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.

It's not a small trade show, is

it?

Oh yeah, it's open from 5:50 and

meant for retailers.

Interesting.

But sometimes fans get in too if

they know the right people, so I

guess you could take boots.

It was such a success last time,

they decided to do it again.

Apparently.

I'm just not understanding.

Oh, it started in 2025 years.

Ago how they're going to

multiple cities.

That's what you said, right?

Yes.

And they're having it's a trade

show.

It's a mini trade show.

So they did it, but they haven't

done it every year.

They did it 2020 and they're

doing it again this year.

They come a summer tradition.

It says, oh, if you're a cigar

lover, mark your calendar.

The Traveling Cigar Roadshow

might be rolling into a city

near you.

OK.

So it's a place for you to buy

well or Greg?

I'm not interested in going.

No.

Why would Greg drive to Tampa

when the Rep could just come

here?

Yeah, it just, it makes no sense

to me whatsoever.

Unless they're special deals.

Yeah, we're no longer flipping.

No, he's just playing a video

game.

Yeah, I'm.

Flipping.

No, you're not.

He's not looking, he's just.

I don't think he's flipping at

all.

I'm.

Flipping.

He's texting somebody.

Texting No, it says.

Texting Ginger Oh, I love you

more.

Texting Ginger No, I love you

more.

But that's why he's texting

Ginger.

No, no.

I love you more.

Yeah.

It's from 2021.

It's from 2021, so it's been

going on for four years.

Yeah, well, this said 20, but

you know, 6 to 1, half dozen the

other.

Interesting.

It was a long list of cities.

Doesn't sound like OK.

I mean, if you were in Tampa,

maybe, but it's.

Just a weird thing like.

What if it was in Deltona?

No.

At the city center or whatever

else?

No.

No, you still wouldn't.

Well, yeah, but doing fair you

don't go to.

Anything I got, stuff I got to

do, yeah.

You don't go to anything, you're

too busy.

But would Greg go?

Have you heard there was a deal

on something there?

On what?

The deal would have to be

monstrous anyways.

It's no Oliva Oliva's already

they've doomed themselves.

They've hooked up with Cigar

Page and they sell on their

direct consumer at a deep

discount.

I'm not excited to go see Oliva.

What if Roma was part of it?

No.

There's no brand.

Not that dumb.

There's no brand.

Well, we're saying for the sake

of argument, Michael, that

they've agreed to be.

Like they like they smoke some

meth and they decided to get a

part I don't.

Know why they maybe, maybe they

got a good deal or something

from the roadshow people.

I don't know who's putting it

together.

It doesn't say.

It's a mystery.

Are all these brands related

from some way, I don't think

under some giant umbrellas.

So how do they get all these

people together?

That's all Justin Andrews.

Plan, they're all big brands

though.

They're all legacy brands,

right?

Or mainstream.

I wouldn't call them legacy.

They call them mainstream.

Mainstream.

Yeah, so maybe it's like ACI

Roadshow.

It's ridiculous what it.

Is oh that's what they should do

in the CI parking lots.

That would be easier for them.

Yeah, there you got all the

cigars.

There.

OK.

Hey, moving on.

I think we are.

Yeah, let's move on from that.

All right, cigar fans, it's time

for the new game that's sweeping

the cigar world.

Would you like to pick another

winner real quick?

Indeed I would.

Pick another name.

Or do you have so you're going

through the list how many names

you have left?

I got 2.

OK, after this one or including

this one?

After this one I'll have one.

OK, perfect.

Jason Day, OK.

All right, it's time for What's

the score?

Here's how it works.

I'm going to read you some clues

from a real cigar review,

straight from my friends over at

half.

Will I tell you what the

reviewer said?

How it smelled, how it smoked,

what flavors they packed up, all

the good and the bad stuff.

Your job is to try and guess

what the final score Cigar got

on a scale of zero to 100.

OK.

All right.

Now I've been told this has

become quite the home game.

People are playing along at

home.

They're guessing.

Yeah, yes, yes, people are

guessing, right.

So will it be a high scoring

favorite or a total flavor fall?

Right now the current score is I

am leading with one and boots

has half .5.

All right, play along with us at

home, test your cigar instincts

and get ready to shout out,

shout to your speakers, because

it's time to play.

What's the score?

Boots, boots, boots.

Boots, Boots.

Sorry, that was funny.

All right.

Our first review was by Patrick.

Oh boy.

Is that your second one?

Yes.

Of the Amazon, Yeah.

All right, Cigar.

Sorry, that's a good point,

right?

All right, the cigar reviewed

Gold Star Robusto.

Oh boy.

Country of origin.

Dominican Republic Factory.

Tablo Calera.

William Ventura.

The Rappers.

Ecuadorian Habano, 2000.

Intermedio OK, it's important to

know.

All right, did this just come

out?

Yes, this is the new one.

This is a new release, yes, OK.

Binders Indonesian Sumatra

fillers Dominican Republic.

It's a 5 inch by 52 so they just

call it a 52 boots.

So it's Dominican filler,

period.

Correct. 5 by 50. 2 it's a

robusto, sells for $12.00 a box

of 22140 dollars.

Release date is March 2025.

OK, number of cigars released,

regular production, number of

cigars smoked for review is 3

All right, all right, first.

Oh yes.

Now, you went first last time.

Yeah.

All right, so I'll go first this

time.

I'm going to say 88.

All right, 88 boots just burned

his hand.

I'm.

Going to go 86. 8688 Yep.

All right, first clue.

The three cigars all start a bit

differently, kind of a

Goldilocks phenomenon where the

1st is mild, the third is packed

with dry wood pepper and

something that imitate irritates

my eyes, and the second strikes

a good balance but dodges the

irritation You.

Know I like the description of

Goldilocks.

So three different cigars.

All different.

All the three same cigars gave

him different impressions

originally.

Welcome to Dominican Republic,

baby.

Was that the end of that Palmer?

Yes, yeah, I'm going to go 87.

So you went down one?

Yeah, Boot, you're at 86.

Must stay at 86.

Must.

Stay at 86 second clue heading

to the midpoint of the first

cigar.

The smoke is irritating my eyes

with a fervor, reaching a point

where I have to get up and rinse

them out in hopes of alleviating

the sensation, only to get more

of it when I return to the

cigar.

So he's been injured.

Yes, this cigar is injured.

Is watery eyes?

Is that part of the scale?

Apparently makes a difference.

You're at 87, he's still at 86.

Well, you kind of hinted at

watery eyes prior to on the

first.

Well, it's unusual.

No, well, you said it in the

first kind of clue.

So I kind of incorporated that

in my 87.

So I think I'm going to stick

87.

All right.

I'm.

Going to stay at 86.

He's not changing.

All right.

Third clue I've.

Not read anything about these.

Guys, to say I've been enjoying

the creaminess of the second

third would be an

understatement, which is why I'm

disappointed to see it leave the

Gold Star Robusto as the final

third gets underway, and do so

rather quickly.

So it tastes good.

Not the first half, not the

first.

This.

Thing has injured him.

I'm bleeding out of my eyeballs.

But it's.

Delicious, but it tastes good.

If you can survive the first

third.

The second third's great, but

then put it down because the

third third is no bueno.

Holy moly.

Damn, this is a tough one.

I'm going to stick 87, I think.

I don't think I have much of A

choice here.

You know, part of me wants to go

down to like 85.

I've been thinking about that,

but I'm going to stay at 86

since you stayed at 87.

So you guys are sticking it to

your scores?

Final thoughts.

All right, Final thoughts.

When getting to the summary part

of a cigar review, I often try

to think about the one or two

things I will remember most

about a cigar, and what would be

the things I'd be hoping to get

from the cigar the next time I

smoke one.

In the case of the Gold Star

Robusto, there are two things I

will remember.

The first is the incredible

level of irritation that two of

the cigars gave me.

The second is how good the

creaminess is in the middle

section and what it does to take

fairly familiar flavor, what it

does, you know, to take fairly

familiar flavors and turn them

into a complex profile.

Given these two things, the

question is whether I'd

recommend it recommended dealing

with the first of the benefits

like the first for the benefits

of the second.

OK, Whether he would deal with

the eye orientation because you

like this, the flavor, all

right.

And I'm not sure I would.

While the flavor is very good,

the irritation seems like an

unnecessary part of the

experience.

If that one part could get

removed from the experience, the

Gold Star Robusto would get a

much more enthusiastic

recommendation.

I don't understand sometimes the

way he writes these things.

Can I go 85 is the question.

He he really doesn't like the

cigar, but he's.

He likes the he he says he likes

the flavour, but the eye

irritation is really pissing him

off.

It's really not worth it.

I don't see what he's saying.

Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, it's.

Also so irritating I don't know

if I would smoke.

It's kind of like he's trying to

let down his, you know, his

date, you know, like, easy.

Maybe they're a sponsor of?

You know, you're really nice,

but.

It's me, it's not you.

It's.

United.

It's me.

This is your boy, Patrick David

Garofalo.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, the cigar.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh boy.

Man, this is tough.

You picked a good one.

I think I'm going to have to

stick 87.

If not, I'd have to jump to 85.

So I think I'm going to stick.

Can you not have the same score

as him if you so chose?

I know that was one of the

rules.

Is that one of the rules?

Yeah, we could have picked the

same number.

I thought we could.

What's wrong with that?

Well, then there'd be a tie and

just a.

Push.

I'm OK with the push.

No, no ties.

First of all, I'm picking first.

What difference does that?

Make So if I pick 86 then he's

got to pick a different number.

Except he's already at 86.

Yeah, he's already at 86, but

that's.

My point?

So if I want to pick the same

number he has, I can.

No, I don't see the problem in

that.

Well, we're two out of the I.

Hope everybody's screaming at

the screen right now.

You're.

Right.

No, no ties.

There's no ties in.

What's the score?

There's no ties in.

What's the score?

OK, well I'm going to stick 87.

Boots.

What are you going to what are

you going to do?

I'm.

Going to stay at 86.

It's 86.

Bam, Bullshit I.

Figured that.

Now he's calling bullshit

because he lost.

He's such a bad.

But I'm but again, like these

scores are crazy because he

completely hated this cigar

like.

No, it had some redeeming

qualities.

He liked the flavour, but it

burned the shit out of his eyes.

I just think even like at 86 is

just high.

What is considered a?

Can we start writing our cigars

on the Patreon like this?

What is considered a good score?

I mean what what what are you

happy at if you get an above?

Is it in the 90s?

The answer is it depends on who

reviewed it.

That's true.

You did mention.

That.

Before is there not like an

average number that would be

everybody?

No, listen, if Charlie scores

something at an 88, I'm like,

damn, all right?

Oh so OK, you're happy with an

88 from?

Charlie, yeah, 88 from Charlie's

like, OK, that's pretty good.

Brooks scores you an 88 and

you're not happy.

No, no, if Brooks gives you an

88, my God, say the least bit if

I think if it's ours, I think

that Brooks needs to give it at

least a 90.

And if Brooks gives it a 90 or

above, I know he liked it.

If he gave it an 88, like I'm

just giving you the, the, the

rating, the rating that I think

that they like the cigar, right?

Patrick would probably have to

be an 89 or a 90 man.

That's maybe 89.

Why even have it on a scale from

one to 100?

Because there's variables that

you have to consider that will

rank it.

Give it 10 points, 20 points, 10

points, 20 points here here I'm.

Sure, if you if you ask them,

they would probably try to say

it's all even an 86 from

Charlie's the same as an 86 from

Patrick.

Yeah.

Well, it's not.

No, it's not.

Right.

Yeah, it's definitely not.

It's not.

Especially when you get injured

through your eyes.

It's not if I see a 90 or a 91,

I want to see who did it.

And if I see a C91, like that's

a Unicorn right there, buddy.

I'm like hell yeah.

What's?

Even crazy is he washed out.

If you had to wash out your eyes

when you started smoking a

cigar, yeah.

Would you continue to the

middle?

Yeah, smoke.

Three of them.

When two of them burned your

eyes.

I know.

I think I might give up.

Go is this got a 22.

I'm pulling this turn out.

You have two names left, or one.

One all right.

All right.

The next review is from Brooks.

And did you know before halfway

was halfway?

It was called smokinstogies.com.

I did not know that.

This is from smokinstogies.com.

Holy Moke.

Have these listed on their

website.

Brooks has been around that

long.

It's. 2003.

So they have a different website

for their older one.

Yes, originally there was a

another gentleman whose name I

saw, but I I didn't pull a

review because nobody knew who

he was and I didn't think that

would have been fair.

He's probably the Unicorn.

So.

He probably rated 100.

Smoking stogies is the original

half wheel and this is from

2003. 2003 God I was in high

school.

Yes, this is the Arturo Fuente

Hemingway classic Sun Grown.

How old was Brooks in this?

Yeah, that's.

What I was thinking too, how old

was?

Brooks 22 years ago. 22 years

ago.

Was he 12?

This is a cigar that's still

around, though, right?

That's why I picked it.

Yeah.

This is a standard Arturo Fuente

cigar.

All right.

Country of origin Dominican.

Wait a second.

Yeah, we go right now.

No, I read you this, the

introductory stuff, and then you

vote.

No, you say this is who it is,

this is who it's from.

And then I guess.

Price point, whatever.

Yeah, you just give us the

basics.

Yeah, well, that's what I'm

giving you now, is the.

Basics all I give you so.

Far is the name.

Yeah, the name and who did it I.

Think I read this first part

first.

Well, two of us say yes and you

say no.

No, I edit all the clips.

I think that I stare at these

more than you do all.

Right.

Fine, Michael, go ahead.

OK90A.

Hemingway.

Yes.

I'm gonna go 88.

Factories Table Calera A Fuente

how?

Many Hemingway's Have you given

this guy?

Have you given him a Hemingway?

Hemingway.

Yeah, I mean, you got to think

this is 2003.

This is like before anything

else, a lot of small things.

This this is when Fuente was a

small guy.

This is before boutique, right?

I mean Fuente is considered

boutique and probably at this

point like 90.

When did they create the Opus

9796?

Something like that.

This is 22 years ago though,

right?

It was before Boutique.

There's not a lot of boutiques

at this point in 2003, I can

tell you that much.

OK, go ahead.

Let's stay ahead.

Andy Palmer.

Rapper Ecuadorian sun grown

binder unknown filler Dominican

Republic.

It's a 7 by 48 to perfecto.

MSRP back then was $7.90 Jesus

date release 2003.

I think Hemingway's are double

that price now. 90. 88.

The cigar itself is quite rough

to the touch, with very little

oil to speak of.

The reviews were much shorter

back into that.

Yeah, it seems like.

That's it.

That's all you're giving me.

That's all I'm giving you. 89.

Oh, we went down one.

I'm 88.

The second third started with a

literal explosion of spice.

The Hemingway classic calms down

after about 15 puffs, but the

spice stays in the background

for the next for the rest of the

cigar. 90.

Wow, why are you jumping around

so much?

He went down the back up.

Yeah, Alpha Pepper.

He said he liked the cigar.

You said it mellowed out in its

flavour profile, but the spice

continued forward.

I'm saying an idiot. 88 I'm

sorry.

Yeah.

All right.

Out of nowhere, the cigar gets

extremely bitter.

Not the well let's keep smoking

and it will get better bitter,

but more like the the cigar down

bitter.

Like my eyes in the future are

going to be injured better.

That was a different person.

Got the burning?

Damn that owes you 3 quiz.

Damn.

You went high off the RIP.

It's Brooks and it's a Fuente,

but it's 22 years old.

Does Brooks?

Is he favourable on Fuentes?

No, Brooks. 22 year, but it's

not a 22 year old cigar.

Back in 2003 it could have been

very fresh.

Yeah, maybe he's a little angry

at that point in his life.

Wet right off the press and this

is probably in the beginning

stages of him smoking, right?

89. 88.

All right, final thoughts.

Disappointment does not even

begin to describe what I was

feeling at the end of the cigar.

I was expecting a fusion of two

of my favorite cigars and

instead I got a foul tasting

mess.

Every time I hear about a cigar

that I've been wanting to try

and get a bad rating, the first

thing I ask about is where the

cigar came from and where had it

been stored, as storage

conditions can be a huge factor

in the quality of the final

smoke.

I know exactly where these

cigars have been since they were

released and I have to assume,

but these specific sticks have

just gone way past their prime

for the perhaps never to return

to anything close to their

former glory.

For those of you playing at

home, you're probably really

screaming at this point because

now we're completely off of the

fucking numbers. 85, 85.

Oh man, yeah, 'cause he

completely hated the cigar.

This is probably ranks way lower

than that.

You know what's crazy though, is

that these guys don't rank

things super low, even if

they're.

Bad.

Hold on.

I'm going to go lower.

I want to change my.

Can't change your score.

Why not?

Because you.

I haven't committed yet.

Yes, you did.

You gave your score.

Now he's going.

I'll allow it.

I'll allow it.

All right, fine.

Go ahead, 75.

All right, Booch.

I'm going 86. 65.

I told you I have.

I thought they were the lowest

one was the last one we did.

I thought, well, this was not

technically a halfway review.

This is Stogie Press or Stogie

Smoke at stogies.com.

OK, so I.

Found the archives.

So after two weeks.

We're tied.

We are tied.

I gained 1/2 a point and you

gained a full and now we both

have 1 1/2 points.

Man this guy gave a super low

score on a Fuente cigar, but he

likes Fuentes but he didn't like

this one.

See how well he might like the

but do.

You see how spot on he was on

the first one?

Just saying.

I did.

He's reading all the reviews.

I never read half will of

anything.

OK.

How do you know how they make

all their money?

Half wheel.

Ad space buddy.

Ad space.

That's it, huh?

Of course, when you look at

their website to cheat, you

should look at all the ads.

To cheat.

Yeah, you should look at the ads

when you cheat.

They're everywhere.

All right, Listener of the Week,

Kent Myers.

Kent Myers.

I'm not familiar with Kent.

Yes, Jack Serrano ran into him

when he was out gallivanting I

believe in Arkansas.

Oh yes, Jack was in Arkansas

West.

Yeah, Arkansas.

And he mentioned the show.

Yeah, he mentioned the show.

Oh, excellent.

So, Kent, thank you for your

support, buddy.

Thanks.

All right, Shop of the Week, Old

Allegheny Smoke Shop.

Yeah, with Steve and Sarah.

Steve and Sarah.

All right, you got one more

name.

I do.

All right.

Last name.

Miguel Rocha.

Oh, I like him.

That's a good name.

All right, he's been episode

394.

We are going to go smoke the

dagger from Cao the dagger.

The dagger with a picture of a

machete on the package.

What's that to you all?

Right.

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Show Notes

Intro for Episode 394 – “Robotaxis, Rescue Missions & $50M Weddings”

Welcome back to the Cigar Hustlers Podcast—Episode 394! This week, we’re taking a wild ride through the latest trending world news and, of course, the ever-evolving cigar scene. We kick things off with Elon Musk’s ambitious yet bumpy robotaxi launch in Austin—turns out, the Teslas are driving themselves… right into trouble. Then we discuss a dramatic man-overboard rescue aboard a Disney cruise, a $50 million wedding that wiped Lauren Sanchez’s Instagram clean, and some spicy commentary from Mikey on Joe Rogan and Liver King.

On the cigar front, we break down exciting new releases from Micallef, Supreme Leaf, AJ Fernandez, and more—including a closer look at the Gold Star Robusto and the bittersweet letdown of the Hemingway Classic Sun Grown.

Plus, listener of the week and our Shop of the Week.

Buckle up—this one’s packed tighter than a perfecto!