ACHP Episode 394 – “Robotaxis, Rescue Missions & $50M Weddings

Transcript
Welcome to Episode 394.
Welcome back to the Cigar
Hustler podcast.
I'm your Co host Mike Palmer and
with me today is always my Co
host Mike Stepan Kevich.
And over on the tech side is Mr.
Booty.
And this is episode 394.
Mr. Tech Savvy himself.
Mr. Booty Booty, Yes.
Extraordinaire.
Exciting show lined up for you
today with some wild news
stories from around the world
and the latest updates from the
cigar scene.
So buckle up, we're talking
about cars that drive themselves
and mess up a lot, a real life
rescue mission on a Disney
Cruise, and super fancy wedding
that wiped out somebody's
Instagram.
And don't worry Smoke fans,
we've got new releases from a
Caliph, AJ Fernandez and Supreme
Leaf, plus a review that left
one smoker with watery eyes.
Watery.
Dickens.
And Mike, he has some things to
say about Joe Rogan and the
Liver King as well as Boots.
Trending Sports.
But first, yes, this week on
Saturday we have a ticketed
event in the Hustler Private
Lounge.
It's a BBQ dinner with Skip
Martin from Roma Craft.
Tickets include a a Roma sampler
pack, full dinner, full BBQ
dinner, private time with Skip
Martin and 24 other dinner
guests, as well as a live taping
of the Cigar Hustler Podcast.
I got to prepare for that.
Yes, ticket holders on the night
of the event and get 15% off all
Roma products as well as one
free pre release War Bear cigar.
Oh.
Hand those things out like
they're candy right now.
Well, you know, I'm very
generous at times.
You know you're.
Very generous man, you just.
Got to look out for people.
I just like to look out for
people.
Is that so wrong?
No, you're a very nice man.
A nice man.
Would you like to pick a name,
Michael?
I indeed I would.
Aaron Cooper, uh.
Oh.
Moving on.
So don't ask questions, boots,
just move.
Just go with it.
Just go.
Just relax.
Just I'm relaxing.
Just take.
It now you're ready, let's roll
into our first story.
What about Patriot?
Wait, wait time.
Yeah.
Oh sorry, why are we smoking on
the Patreon?
Just that's everything Bomber
here, yeah.
Golly.
Why do we just want to be
smoking on the?
For the Patreon we are doing,
How's that?
You got it covered with.
Yeah, perfect.
We're doing the Amazon Basin
Dagger.
It was hard to get.
They had to wait three years for
those.
We had to wait three years for
these.
There's a lot of Amazon base and
tobacco inside.
There's extra now because they
can make another whole another
there's.
A whole another batch coming.
Do you want to smoke this right
now?
Well.
It won't last through two shows.
You got something going?
Yeah.
I have something going, but it
won't last the whole show
though, right?
No.
Yeah.
So I'll just.
I'll wait.
OK, do you want one?
I already have one for the
Patreon.
I'm here.
I'll smoke 2 of.
Course you will.
That's fine.
I mean, I want one.
Yeah, you'll get one for the
picture.
No, no, no, he doesn't get one
out.
That's it.
Wait, OK, so all right.
So we're past that.
Are are we still doing the score
thing?
We're not doing that.
Yeah, that's what's this?
Yeah.
What's the score?
Watery eyes you didn't.
Hear that reviewed.
Watery.
Eyes.
Yeah, but before we go any
further, yes, it's the final
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All right, story #1 this is an
update from last week.
Robotics gone wild.
Let's head to Austin, TX, where
Tesla has started testing
something called a Robo taxi.
Oh.
Well, we talked about that last
week that they.
Were a robo taxi.
The robo taxi's from Elon Musk,
OK?
Yeah, it's like a pre thing that
we did last week.
Yes, that means a car that
drives itself with no human
driver at all.
Sounds cool, right?
Well, it didn't go quite as
planned.
It never does.
When does it go quite as
planned?
He smashed the fucking Elon
Musk.
Yeah, he smashed the bulletproof
window on a live stage with the
Tesla cyber truck.
Oh, did he?
Oh, he was trying to show how
strong it was.
He put his fish through it.
Well, it's just he's a robot.
Start with probably.
You know.
He's like data from *.
Trek I would I would expect
nothing less than something to
go wrong.
All right, these robot taxis are
Tesla Model Y cars that have
special software to help them
drive on their own.
Elon Musk, the head of Tesla,
says people in Austin can ride
them now for a flat fee of
$4.20, as we mentioned last
week.
And someday he wants robo taxis
all over the country.
But here's the problem.
People started posting videos of
these cars doing some seriously
bad driving.
One car swerved into the wrong
lane where cars were coming
toward it.
That's normal.
Another stop super fast and the
person inside got thrown forward
and all their stuff fell on the
floor.
Oh, that's like a ride at
Disney.
There's even a video of a Tesla
robotaxi driving over a curb in
another where the car slammed on
the brakes when it saw police
cars.
Oh, no police.
That's maybe normal in some
places.
That's over for people, not for
robots.
How's it get a ticket?
I I yeah, yeah.
Who gets the ticket?
Who pays that?
Even though the police weren't
over in his lane.
Oh, so they were just like on
the other side of the road.
A group in Austin tracks self
driving car problems.
And guess what?
They already had to report a
safety concern on day one of the
test, a college professor who
studies robot car said.
Wow, that's a lot of problems
for just the first day.
Elon Musk still says everything
is going according to plan.
It's all fine people,
everything's fine.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
And that millions of Teslas will
be driving themselves by 2026.
That sounds amazing, but after
seeing those videos maybe the
robot cars need to go back to
driving school before hitting
the streets full time.
Are you surprised that there was
chaos with this test?
On the first day you think there
would have been some type of
test before they rolled it out
with people?
Are you surprised the the.
No, I mean, everything has
problems, but that's then we fix
them and then we make it better.
Yeah, like this doesn't surprise
me.
You can prepare all you want for
for any type of experience until
you go live, until you're in it
like that's when things go
wrong.
That's when mistakes are made
and you and things get
corrected.
Now, should they have had
anybody in the cars?
I don't know, maybe, maybe not.
Well, how would you?
If you're going to go live, they
got to put.
People in listen if you died you
only paid 4 bucks, what's the
problem?
Well, thank goodness nobody
died.
Right.
Yeah, just some curb jumping my.
Favorite one is the one where it
slowed down for police, slammed
on the brakes.
Oh police.
Wait until you wait until people
figure out how to transport
drugs with this thing.
Oh, that's totally going to
happen.
You're going to throw it in the
Tesla?
Yeah, I don't know if it's true
or not, but I saw a thing where
if you're transporting illegal
substances in your automobile,
if you put it in a box and seal
it up like you're going to the
post office, the police can't
technically open your mail
without a court order.
'Cause it needs a warrant,
right?
Yeah.
But if a dog comes in and the
dog smells something, they can
open anything they want.
Probably.
Oh.
Can they?
Yeah.
Well then I guess they would
just detain you at all for the
dogs.
Yeah.
Oh, you can't open this package
like.
Alright, well.
It's you a smell.
You can't open it.
Well, the canine smells and I
get to now open and now I have
to detain you.
That's how that works.
What if you were to address it
to yourself with a different
return address?
Like I just picked this up.
I don't think any drug person
would ever address it to
themselves.
Possession is 9/10 of the law,
Yeah.
But I mean, I don't know what's
in this box.
I just got to the.
Post Office, It doesn't matter,
it's in your possession.
Oh my God, there's 3 kilos of
cocaine in here.
How in the world did that?
Happen.
Yeah, dude, come on.
It's not my laptop.
Like what?
Come on, mine.
Laptop when you go with porn on
your laptop.
I was going dark without
bringing it was actually.
Saying well, I thought I missed
something.
Tried to keep it G rated, you
know.
This is not AG rated Joe.
I know, but still YouTube is
sensitive about something.
Else, I just thought of
something else to talk about on
the Patreon.
OK, all right.
A hero dad on a Disney cruise.
Yeah.
Now let's go to the ocean, where
a scary moment turned into a
hero story.
On June 29th, the Disney Dream
Cruise ship was sailing back to
Fort Lauderdale, FL.
It had just finished A4, a fun
four day trip to the Bahamas,
but there's a little girl
somehow fell off the ship.
Oh boy.
Wow.
From the 4th deck, which is a
few stories up.
But without even thinking, her
dad jumped in after her.
That's right.
He dove straight into the ocean
to try and save her.
The ship's crew didn't waste a
second.
Over the loudspeaker, they
called for a special code M or
Mr. MOB is must be the head
overboard.
Yeah.
Mr. Bed Overboard much?
Must mean a man, I'm guessing.
Oh, it stands for Man Overboard
and it means emergency.
The crew threw life rings into
the water and quickly sent out a
rescue boat.
Thanks to their training and the
fast action, they found the dead
and the girl in just a few
minutes.
Everyone was safe and back on
the board and back on board.
Soon after, one passenger wrote
on Facebook, a girl fell from
deck four and her dad went in
after her.
The rescue team was on it
immediately.
Even though ships like the
Disney Dream have clear safety
rails and special cameras to
detect if someone falls, it's
still a mystery how the girl
went overboard.
Does that surprise you that the
father went out instantly after
their?
Kid No.
I mean, I would do it too if it
was mine.
I mean, I'd do it if it was your
kid, but I mean there are
probably some that wouldn't.
OK, and what about you?
Does it surprise you that the
dad just jumped instinctively
jumped in after their kid?
No, but what I'm thinking in my
head is how pumped the crew was
because they probably been
training for this ever since
they got hired.
Yeah, that's true.
OK, so where's the line?
Let me ask you that.
Where is the line for you to
jump overboard?
Let's say it's some kid you
don't know.
Would you jump overboard?
Oh, that's what you mean.
I thought you meant like, how
high I meant.
I thought you meant like, if
it's your kid, how many stories
up to where you don't jump?
Oh.
I dude it's 10 stories I'm
jumping.
Yeah, if it's your own kid,
yeah.
It doesn't matter.
We either die together or, you
know, yeah.
I don't.
It might be a little different
if it's somebody I don't know.
Yeah, you hold the line at
somebody you don't know.
Depend on the circumstances, the
situation.
I mean, you know, and sometimes
you get caught up in the moment.
You don't even think.
You just go.
Yeah.
Like there, there's a video
circulating, it looked like it
was down on the keys truck
crashed onto the side of it,
looks like the seven mile bridge
and the truck was dangling off
the side.
The kid fell out in the car seat
into the water and some
bystander just parked his car
ran.
He didn't stop.
He just ran and jumped off the
rail, right.
But that's a little different.
You know, you're not out to sea.
7 mile bridge isn't, you know, 8
feet maybe off the water if
that.
That's a little different.
And there was boats down there
that immediately picked up him
and the child.
What about you, Boots?
Cruise shipment of the ocean.
Somebody else's child that I
don't even know.
Yeah, I don't know.
It probably depends what time of
day it is.
What type of day it is?
No what?
What time of day?
What time of day it is?
If it's night time, no way.
Yeah, that water's dark.
Well, you're not.
You're not a boat guy anyways,
even though you're in the Navy,
you're not a.
Boat Guy Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he would get Navy flashbacks
about being on the boat.
So I can't go on that one.
Yeah, you're terrified of the
boats regardless, so daytime
maybe.
Yeah, daytime.
You probably can jump.
Yeah, I could see me jumping.
Yeah.
Yeah, without hesitation.
And I could see my wife losing
her mind.
Don't do it like she could Not
our kid.
Yeah.
Stop.
Stop.
No.
You know.
Stands in front of you.
Wait.
You know, that's the that's the
yin and the Yang of things,
right?
The organize the organization
and the chaos, I guess to some
degree, but I just wanted to
know that this type of article
is not helping, you know, the
Chevron Kevitch family getting.
On a cruise, it's still not.
Yeah, You know, they just
published the worst ships, too.
Did she pull?
That out the worst.
Ships the dirtiest ships.
Oh really?
Yeah, I saw the Netflix of the
The Poop documentary.
Oh, if you watch that, I just
saw the commercial.
Before I saw a highlight of it
and I'm like, we should watch
this and then we'll never get on
a boat, never get out of a.
Boat.
Was it a Carnival cruise?
I don't.
I don't.
Yeah, there's a Carnival poop
cruise.
Yeah, those are nasty anyway.
Really.
Carnival's allegedly Allegedly,
Carnival is the party cruise.
Is the party cruise?
That's the cheap one that
everybody can get on, so it's
usually treated a little
rougher.
Yeah, right.
And they have the adult type
games where the other cruise
ships really don't.
What would these adult type
games be?
Palmer.
They do like scavenger hunts and
they'll do like, you know, first
woman who pulls a condom out of
the purse or something like
that.
Oh yeah, or first woman who's
got a size triple D bra.
Switch your partner type stuff.
Is this like a heat check game
where?
It's sort of like a bingo type
thing.
Yeah, I've been on several
different cruises.
No, not swinging cruises.
No.
Are you sure?
Palmer, you've seen them, know a
lot about this.
I've.
Been on many cruises situation.
You've been on many cruises.
If you're taking children,
Disney's probably the 1:00 to.
Do, yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't take them on
swinging cruise, that's for
sure.
Well, no.
But Disney has the best child
program.
Yeah, they have a whole deck the
the no casino.
All sexual assaults are up on
the on these cruises and now
kids are jumping off.
I don't know man.
Yeah, I don't know how the kid
fell off.
You.
Would have to try.
Yeah, I'm glad the dad saved
him.
Saved her well.
I'm glad they were both fine.
It's a real dad.
Yeah.
This is.
This is like the Tesla thing
like oh man, is it?
Should we stop having cruise
ships now because one child fell
off?
No.
Well, that's the the one guy
poops their when my guy shits
their pants.
We all wear diapers.
Time for this scenario?
Yeah.
OK, let's all wrap up.
Yeah, well, everybody was fine.
Thanks to the crew and the dad.
Everybody.
It's.
Obviously a real dad.
Anyways, he's going on Disney
Cruise, you know what I mean?
Like, right, It's not a Carnival
Swingers cruise like you would
go on with your kids.
Yeah.
OK.
So here, kids, he he pointed the
kids on the Carnival Cruise.
He pointed up.
The DOE paid top dollar.
Yeah, you definitely paid top.
Dollar how you doing on
switching you you're you're
bringing the heat.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
All right.
Just checking.
It's all in Ginger.
What?
They're all all the cameras,
just.
Everything's staring at Ginger.
All right, a $50 million wedding
and a social media surprise.
All right, now it's time for
some glamour.
Let's talk about a wedding that
may be the fanciest of the year.
On June 27th, Lauren Sanchez, a
journalist and TV host, Mary
Jeff Bezos, the founder of
Amazon and one of the richest
people in the world.
Their wedding took place on a
private island in Venice, Italy.
And guess what?
The guest that was packed.
The guest list was packed with
famous names.
Oprah, Usher, Bill Gates, Karlie
Kloss.
I know who's sure that is
anybody.
I know one name that wasn't on
there.
Diddy.
Is that what you're going to
say?
Yeah.
Well, he just, he just sent
back.
He couldn't attack.
He's got to walk out, he's got
to go Scott free first.
So like that's got to happen,
which will be.
What was great is Jeff Bezos
probably got a decline card for
him.
Sorry I can't make it this year
having a lot of stuff going on.
Please give my regards here as a
gift of baby.
Oil, I'll see you at my party
next year.
Take this Lube.
Well, the Kardashians did get
invited, though.
They did get invited.
They did get invited.
They didn't get invited.
That's a release.
I was so concerned.
People think the wedding, the
wedding the wedding.
People think the wedding cost
between 4.646 point 5 and $55.6
million.
What the hell does he care?
That's called Friday for him,
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, that's probably walking
around money.
Yeah, that's that's enough to
buy a castle or even a small
town.
But Lauren made even more
headlines when she did something
very unexpected after the
wedding.
She deleted every single post on
her Instagram account.
She went dark.
She just deleted everything.
She went Zero Dark 30.
And then she changed her name to
Lauren Sanchez Bezos.
Yeah, the other person was dead.
And posted 2 new photos.
One of them showed her in her
wedding dress, a beautiful fancy
lace gown by Dolce and Cabano
with a long train and high neck.
She wrote not just a gown, a
piece of poetry.
That sounds lovely.
Some people say she wiped her,
wiped your account to start
fresh with her new life.
Others think it was just part of
the wedding magic.
Whatever the reason, one thing
is clear.
Lauren and Jeff's wedding was
huge, fancy and full of
surprises.
And now Misses Bezos is making
sure everyone knows it's a brand
new chapter.
It's a new dawn.
It's a new day.
It's.
A new life.
Music like to choose another
name Michael.
Oh indeed I would.
I'm glad you were in charge.
Somebody writing these down.
Oh, you have.
I have them.
Oh, OK.
I'm like nobody's writing.
These down Richard Beard,
Junior, OH.
Nice.
Yep.
All right, boots, time for
trending sports.
Sing Bong.
Who you on?
Palmer yes.
Why are you on me every time I
just.
Scratch my nose too so that's
great.
My nose is very itchy today all.
Right.
Hello peoples, this is a long
one.
Is it?
Not that long, it's 3/4.
Of a Jake Paul tells booing
crowd Shut the up.
You can say that word on our
show.
That's fine.
No, I'm glad you.
I'm glad you exed it.
That's nice.
No.
Problem.
Well, he reads it the way I put
it on the paper.
No problem.
No matter what I put on the.
Paper after beating Julio Cesar
Chavez Jake Paul told a booing
crowd to shut the up after
defeating former middle weight
champions Julio Cesar Chavez
Junior by unanimous decision on
Saturday night in Anaheim, CA.
All the boos are words and
actually speaks louder than
words so y'all can shut the up
pop, Paul said.
Man we got to get this ink issue
ironed out here in the post
match interview while making
taunting gestures to the crowd.
I'm hip, I'm really hip.
I just beat your boy easy work
You're five wait till I get
going even more.
Mother Paul, 12 and 17K OS
appear to be taking the biggest
risk of his unique boxing career
by facing his most accomplished
opponent, 39 year old Chavez,
54, seven and two and in front
of and our dentally pro Chavez
crowned in Southern California.
This ink is really bad.
You got to practice your
reading.
It's not the reading, trust me.
I mean, look at.
This I read it, you can see the
sides.
Why is it messed up again?
We just got new ink.
It's a brand new thing.
I don't know.
At least yes, we need a new
printer.
At least it seemed like a risk,
until Chavez stepped into the
ring at Honda Center and looked
lifeless, barely throwing a
punch until late in the fourth
round for the Cruiser 8 bout.
Even with his famous father
shouting furiously at ringside,
Chavez fought tentatively and
tepidly against Paul, who
patiently controlled the ring
and landed just enough to win
rounds.
Chavez first mounted A
discriminable attack in the 6th,
and he delivered several
exciting shots in the ninth,
finally exhibiting the skills of
a long boxing career.
But he couldn't seriously damage
the YouTube turned puglist.
Pugilist.
Pugilist, who jumped on the
ropes in the celebration after
absorbing several flurries in
the 10th and final round.
The judges scored it 9990190892
and 9793 for Paul.
The Associated Press also
favored Paul 9793.
It was a 2 minute story.
That's not one.
OK, so Jake Paul obviously won.
He obviously paid him off the.
The story, for some reason, was
that he swore at the audience.
OK.
I mean, I can't believe people
are are you, is anybody watching
these stuff, these things
anymore?
It was trending, so somebody is.
Well, I didn't, did you?
No, no, I know he's going to win
every one of them.
Yeah, he's paying these guys,
bro.
It's just so is he paying these?
Guys allegedly.
Allegedly.
I don't follow him but they did
say I don't know if he read it
or not because I can't
understand him when he talks.
But the boxer didn't even really
start trying until like the
second or third round.
Right, like it's designed where
I think if the person wins, they
have they don't get paid.
Allegedly.
Allegedly that's that's a
conspiracy theory behind it all.
There's no I, I have 0 interest
in any of these.
Do you watch?
You don't watch these.
No, just.
First of all, Chavez is a great
boxer.
Yeah, this guy would plummel
Jake Paul.
Yeah, he took a paycheck.
Did the Tyson fight ever
happened or did that?
Yeah, it happened.
Oh, did he?
And Tyson started to to hit him
and, you know, it looked like he
got in.
He was like, what are you?
Doing Oh yeah, hey, stop paying
you man, come.
On Yeah, you got to ease up.
This isn't real.
And then all of a sudden, you
know, Tyson's kind of biting his
glove or whatever.
We talked about this years ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
It's not.
It's amazing that kudos to the
guy forgetting the exposure and
getting paid the way that he
does.
I mean, that's fantastic for
him.
I can't believe that our society
still buys into it.
And then he was a complete ass
to Pierce Morgan.
He was on Pierce's show.
Oh, the talk show guy.
Yeah, and he was like, I'm just
trying to get your viewers to
watch my pay-per-view dumb ass
or something, and then just
hangs up on him.
Oh, it was a phone call.
It was like a Zoom thing.
Yeah.
And I'm like, damn dude, that's
just.
Guy's a jerk.
Yeah, very tacky, yeah.
Terrible, let's ban him and
nobody watch him anymore.
It's sad that everybody does
want to watch him.
I don't, I don't, I don't get
it.
I just don't get it.
I wonder how much the
pay-per-view made.
I assume it was pay-per-view.
You don't have the details no
it.
Wasn't part of the story.
There was no money mentioned.
I'm sure it was a lot.
I'll look it up for you.
No, that's OK.
Let's move.
On I want to know because we can
take a little bit of time here.
I don't think this guy does
anything for little amounts of
money.
Well, no.
Why?
I mean, if you get paid, get
paid.
Right.
So he'll keep doing it as long
as people are watching.
I'm sure it was over $50
million.
Let's see, I asked Crock, that
doesn't say.
There are no specific figures
available for the pay-per-view
revenue or buy numbers for this
event in the provided data or
general web information.
Unlike his previous fights such
as the one against Tommy Fury
which reportedly generated
around 800,000 pay-per-view
buys, or the Nate Diaz fight
with approximately 450,000 buys,
no concrete data has been
released for the Paul versus
Chavez Junior event.
JB also claimed to have
generated 250 million in
pay-per-view revenue across his
boxing career up up to December
2023.
So.
Maybe it's down this way,
they're not releasing.
Yeah, I think that people are
just kind of like, OK, alright.
I've seen enough, you know,
maybe it's just entertaining.
I don't know.
Yeah, he's like toting that line
between WWE and right.
Yeah, and real boxing.
I don't think he's toeing the
line.
I'm think he's there.
But like, these people are kind
of like selling their souls for
this, like, you know?
Right, Well, well to be honest,
most of these boxers that are
boxing against them in these
things, they, they don't make
this type of money on their pay
per views.
Yeah, not even close.
Right.
So I mean, one pay-per-view with
him is their whole boxing
career.
You said Chavez hasn't done
anything since 23.
No, I was saying Jake Paul, that
was what he reported from the
pay per.
Views.
Oh I thought you said Chavez's
pay per views up till 20230.
Jake Paul's Oh, OK, gotcha.
So I don't know.
So I mean that means that I
think that boxing in itself
probably needs to be
restructured completely Were
these?
Boxes a sanctioned boxing match.
Yeah, there.
He's figured.
He's figured this out.
He's figured out the loopholes
or whatever the case may be.
Yeah, it's sad, dude.
It's crazy.
So, you know, So, yeah, I think
that this needs to be fixed.
This is why boxing has gone down
the tubes for so many years.
Boots is already tired.
No, I've been tired.
It's 25 minutes.
Alright, Michael, let's hear
about this Liver King thing
that's going.
On SO, have you seen any of
this?
Yes, I have.
I started to pull the story.
Then you texted that you were
going to talk about it.
So.
OK, so Liver King is has gone
off the reservation at this
point, Yes.
And he started to go after Joe
Rogan saying that oh, I want to
fight him and blah blah.
Blah, right?
Challenge, Challenge.
The Liver King.
You know who Liver King is?
Liver King is.
He's this dude that was
originally eating like liver and
saying calling himself like a
primal woman.
Eat all meat.
And he believes that, you know,
all you have to do is eat meat.
But then it leaked out that he
was taking, like, $10,000,
allegedly $10,000 a month in
steroids and stuff to make him
as big as he was.
Yeah.
So he went out and made this
claim that he wanted to fight
Joe Rogan.
Yes, he started.
He started making videos.
They both live in Austin.
Do they both live in Austin?
That's what the story said that
I read.
I thought that he drove down
from somewhere else.
Oh, he said.
They both lived in Austin.
Joe Rogan would wreck this.
Guy, Oh my God.
Oh dude.
Well, he meant he, he mentioned
that part of, you know, I, hey,
I want to fight you.
I know you're going to kick my
ass.
I don't know jiu jitsu or
whatever is Rogan knows.
But where does the Liver King
live?
We will grok and find out.
In a cave far, far away.
He does live in Austin, TX.
Oh.
Look at that.
Look at you.
Look at that I read.
You're so smart.
So cuz he was that there was a
video of him driving as we're
driving to go meet Fine Rogan or
something.
Like that Supposedly in some of
the videos he had AK-40 sevens
too.
Oh really?
Yes.
So Joe Rogan filed a complaint.
He considered it a credible
threat.
Yeah.
So they arrested the Liver King.
They did, yes.
And they gave him a.
He's out on bail and he made a
video about being arrested.
What an idiot.
Why would you admit that you
have AK-40?
So he's got an.
Ankle, it's in the video.
It's not like he admitted he
like had him in each arm.
Have you watched some of his
videos?
No.
I've seen him on TikTok but not
lately.
He sort of has died off.
Maybe this is a way of
resurgence, you know, trying to
research his image or something.
Brand, his brand.
He still has millions of
followers.
Or maybe he was on meth or
something because like.
He's like a, he's like a wild.
What's that one guy that has all
the guns and the girls and all
that stuff?
Yeah, Queen liver, the liver
Queen or whatever is supposedly
works out too, but doesn't need
as much meat or something as you
do.
But he's sort of died off.
Yeah, well, after the whole
$10,000 a month steroid thing.
Right.
So how do you come back?
You pick the one of the most
famous guys and he's local, and
then you challenge him on social
media.
So.
Now everybody's talking about
Liver King again.
So I started watching some of
his videos to see where he went
crazy, right?
I gave up after about like the
six or seven video.
Like OK, this guy's been crazy
for a while.
However, I did notice in one of
the videos he's got a big
humidor in the background.
Oh, he's a cigar guy, Yeah.
Oh, did he?
Postonia Cigar isn't.
It I didn't see Poston but I did
see the Placencia Alma Fuerte
box.
Oh.
Yeah, and it was totally empty.
Distinguishable box?
What?
It's a very distinguishable box
that Placencia is.
There are some other boxes too,
but I don't know what they were.
He's obviously not clipping
anymore.
I don't know who's.
In all no, no.
Well, I've been on you.
You've been talking most of the
time, OK?
Dan Blitzerin, Like a Dan
Blitzerin.
He's just a wild Dan Blitzerin.
I don't know who that.
Is.
I don't know who that is either.
Oh.
So yeah, I'm like, oh, he's a
cigar guy.
I don't think he's ever talked
about being smoking cigars.
No, I don't recall ever seen him
smoking a cigar on his any of
his videos.
He's too busy eating all the
time.
Eating his meat.
Meat and bone marrow and, you
know, testicles and I mean
anything you could think of
that's.
Testicles.
He eats balls.
Yes, he does eat balls.
Yes, he does eat vegetables too
though now I think I've seen him
eat like a raw potato or
something.
Everything's raw, it doesn't
cook anything.
Right.
Do you think that he tried to go
on Rogan's show?
Like hey, I want to talk to.
You.
Oh, I'm sure or hoped that this
controversy would get him on
Rogan's show.
One or the other, maybe he
requested and they're like, fuck
you, you're crazy, we're not
having you on there.
He goes.
Oh well then I would like to
fight you and he's going to go
away.
He just went straight to the
death wish.
Right.
But I mean, look, it worked.
You watched six of his videos.
You wouldn't have watched.
Yeah, it's true.
I did watch them.
I wanted to see if I could.
So other people and I were
looking at going this guy's
crazy, I have to watch all his
videos.
See where he fell off but I
realized.
Now he's famous again.
I realized that I couldn't.
I didn't have that kind of time,
but I did see the cigars.
I was like, oh, cigar, how come
we don't talk about the cigars?
Now this'll die off and he'll
challenge somebody else.
Why?
Don't we talk about the cigars,
Liver King?
I mean, you want to.
Come on this show.
You smoke in the album.
Fuertes, right?
We'll have you on this show.
You can fight him.
No.
I don't want to fight.
You don't want to fight, Liver
King.
I'm a lover, not a fighter, very
passionate.
Think how famous we'd be.
If I fought Liver King.
Right, I'd be the corner guy.
Boots would be the guy with the
bucket that you spit in.
Yeah, oh, I'd spit in.
His bucket and his.
Bucket in the.
Bucket.
You know, they he carries the
bottle, squirts the water in
your mouth.
You turn and you spit it in the
bucket.
Come on.
I've seen boxing movies.
That's what they do.
Yeah.
Boxing movies.
Yeah, I'm the guy that yells the
direction to you from the side.
Yeah, and then I rub his head
when it goes really well, like
in Rock and Rocky.
Just real quick, is that the
only boxing movie you've seen as
Rocky?
Yes.
No, no, no, no.
They're Wolverine and the robot.
Wolverine and the Robot.
The actor.
Not.
Not actually.
Oh, he's talking about yeah, the
yeah where?
He yeah, where the robot still
or something I think is called.
Yeah, yeah.
Where the robot mimic cinema on
the side.
I've seen that one too.
So you've seen Rock Em Sock Em
bots?
Yeah, got it.
And there's some old movie that
Ricky Schroeder was in where his
father died or got beat up or
something.
That's an old movie.
Though, OK, I was just thinking
he used to talk about cigars,
that's all I'm saying.
No, that was my point.
Yeah, we shut.
He does all.
These he should eat them.
He does all these other things.
Why?
Why don't we talk about the
cigars?
Don't know.
That's my point.
All right, moving on.
Moving on.
All right, folks, it's that time
again.
Welcome to the Cigar News, where
we breakdown what's new, what's
hot, and what's hitting humidors
around the world.
From the fresh releases and the
rare finds to factory updates
and limited editions.
If it rolls, burns, and smokes,
we're going to talk about it.
So grab your cutter, spark that
stick, and let's dive into the
smoke filled headlines.
Nice.
This is the Cigar News.
OK, jeez Louise.
Trying different things, Relax.
I liked it.
All right, Michalis, blue and
red cigars hit the shelves.
If you like cigars, then listen
up.
Mccauliff.
Mccauliff Cigars just dropped
two new smokes and they're
looking pretty cool.
Blue and red.
Stop letting Chechi be T give
its own opinion.
I thought they had blue and red
already.
Yeah.
This is special soft packs they
call the Mccauliff Blue and the
Caliph Red.
These are box pressed Toro
cigars.
It's a special cigar.
New size.
Yes, which means you kind of
squared off instead of round.
They feel neat in your hand and
come in shiny new boxes of 10
cigars.
Both are 6 1/2 inches long and
have a ring gauge of 54.
That's a pretty big cigar. 6 by
54. 6 1/2 by 54.
So it's a Toro.
It says that's a pretty big
cigar.
What it says here I don't know.
I.
Get off the ChatGPT bro you got
a bail on.
This well, it's a combo of our
regular supplier of our news
stories and ChatGPT.
So it makes it more hours less
there.
Maybe go back to the regular new
supplier and just give it.
Give them their credit.
Give them their.
The blue cigar has a Mexican San
Andreas wrapper with a mix of
tobaccos from Ecuador, the
Dominican Republic and
Nicaragua.
Inside is meant to taste rich,
smooth and balanced.
Rich, smooth and balanced?
Yes, is it?
That's what Chat TBT came up
with.
No, that must be from halfway.
There's no way I.
Don't know.
It's rich, smooth and bad.
The red cigar also uses Mexican
leaf, but this one is a bit
bolder.
It mixes tobaccos from Mexico,
Nicaragua and even Pennsylvania
everywhere, so it's got some
extra kick that should be.
These two cigars were made just
for smoking, which means you can
can't find them anywhere but
smoking, OK?
Mcalp's president Dan Thompson
said he's excited people are
loving the blend and happy to
work with them with the team at
Smoke Inn again.
Was that the guy that sent us
the link to the YouTube thing
with the pylon room?
I think.
I think it was Dan Thompson.
Yes.
Yeah.
Holy moly.
The.
President of the company.
Look at that.
Look at that.
We didn't know that.
He just came out with these new
cigars.
Great.
Great for you, Dan.
Did Dan not watch the video
before he decided to tell us
about it?
Probably not.
But he knows hey.
Anybody want to guess the price?
OK, are.
The red and blue.
The red and blue.
Sure.
OK.
Is it?
Are they in sealed packs?
Is that what you're saying?
They were like 5.
Yeah, a little little 10 pack.
It's a 10 pack you.
Said a 10 box.
They come with shiny new boxes.
Shiny new boxes.
Do you?
Am I guessing the price of
individual stick or per box?
I have the individual price you.
Have the individual price, yes.
OK, Boots, you want to go first
or you want me to go?
I'll, I'll go.
OK, you go.
It's.
Macau 9 bucks I.
Was gonna say 1050. 9 bucks you
got it right on the head, damn.
Did you read that article?
No, but he's.
Read the article.
He's read the articles.
He will not lose at half wheels.
Guess, guess the score.
He refuses.
To he he well, he can only get
one of them 'cause there's one
current and then one old.
There's no way he can pick out
the old one.
I've never even looked at half
wheel ever except for when you
guys posted about Postagna. 9
bucks 9 belt Wow.
Alright, Supreme Leaf, Grand
Toro.
Oh.
Arrives with a new look.
Next up, cigar news.
Get ready for a big and bold
cigar called the Supreme Leaf
Grand Toro.
It's the newest cigar from
Arganosa Leaf and it's the
thickest that they've ever made.
So this is the purple with the
yellow.
This is the purple, yellow,
orange, or whatever the color.
This is Ginger's favorite.
Yes.
So, so you said a new look
though, Yeah.
Is it just the size of the cigar
or?
Is it?
Yes, It's a grand Toro.
It's a bigger Toro.
He's going to get into it right
now.
The cigar is 6 inches long with
a ring size of 56, so it's
chunky.
It's called the Grand Toro and
it's packed with tobacco that
comes 100% from Nicaragua.
That's called a puro when all
the leaves are from the same
country.
Puss with a ChatGPT acts like
we're idiots.
It's also a limited edition,
which means they're only making
3000 boxes and each box has 10
cigars.
So if you want one, don't wait
too long.
Here's something cool.
The Grand Toro also has new
packaging.
Oh.
It still keeps the orange and
purple colors that the fans
love, but the box is.
Box and Band got a sleek update
to celebrate Supreme Leaf's 5th
birthday, so they've been making
this cigar for.
Five.
It's only been five.
It's felt like 10 like years,
yeah.
Forever.
The company says the cigar was
made to look and taste special,
and it cost anybody, anybody
$16.
Supreme Leaf.
Yeah, Supreme Leaf Grand Tour
More.
Than that, That's a big cigar.
What is it?
And they charge a lot.
What's your guess?
Let's go 18. 1595 hey.
I was right there.
You were very, very close.
You must 16.
You must have read this clip in.
I don't know how to read.
If you like the Supreme Leaf
line, this one might be worth
it.
So light up and celebrate,
because the Grand Toro is
bringing the party to your human
door.
Bring it, put it, put up, put
up.
Put it you need to just not do
this.
All right, AJ Fernandez
celebrates 10 years with a new
world decision.
You're.
Blasting through these news
articles so.
It's a 3 minute read.
New World.
Now let's talk on someone who's
been who's been in the cigar
game a long time, AJ Fernandez.
Question or let us roll into it
a little bit, but.
You're supposed to be asking the
questions when you don't.
Even give me a chance.
All right, next one from Trot
JBT.
This is a great.
You want to talk about the Grand
Toro we're.
So excited for it's Richard.
Actually, I have a question.
I have a question.
Good, good, good.
What's the question?
OK, so tell me the size of it
one more time. 6 by 54.
It's a grand Toro. 6 by 54.
It's a chunky little Toro.
So what makes it a Grand Toro is
it's just a little.
Bit longer, fatter.
A normal Toro is a 52.
There you go.
Is it?
Yes, 6 by 52 is a standard size
Toro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's a 6 by 54.
So I was going to ask if you
would smoke this, but of course
you would because it's just a
little bit bigger than a
regular.
Tour, it's an LE, it hasn't come
out.
Yeah, it's come in 3000 bucks,
no.
I'm saying, would you smoke it?
Would I smoke it?
Yeah, we'll probably Patreon
that pig.
Terrence is down a Nicaragua
right now, probably getting
them.
I love the fact that we went
after Terrence with our jokes
and our short clips and he just
didn't engage.
Nothing he he do better.
I go after him almost daily.
Do you him in his khaki pants?
Yeah, well, there's Palmer with
his.
With the Kanki pants story.
So are you excited about the
size of boots?
I mean save my 54.
What do you think?
I think the sizers are kind of
silly, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah.
I actually kind of, I mean, I do
like what Skid does and I mean
Saka does it as well, like I
think.
Covering his ass.
He likes what those two do.
No, I think the games need a
need a.
Change.
Because like when you say a Toro
or a grand Toro, that to me a
grand Toro would be something
that would be longer.
I don't know, just in my head.
That's called a Churchill.
Right. 7 inches.
Right, I'm just saying.
Like so they're making a six
which is a Toro size and 54
makes it grand.
Right I.
Don't like Sinisafina has a
grand box press robusto Yeah I.
Don't.
Know right, it's a little fat
robusto, yeah, it's bigger
around.
Can see seeing cigars when it's
bigger around.
You get to call it grand.
Or just call it a 54.
They did.
They said it's a 6554.
No, you don't.
Everything's got to have a
Everything's got to have a name.
That's what makes it special.
Yeah.
Otherwise, we're all just
selling cigars.
Right.
Hey man, let me get the Supreme.
Leave the new 54.
I don't think.
OK, so we're coming out with a
bigger warbearer at Christmas,
and we're calling it the
warbearer of mass destruction.
It's a grand perfecto.
Yeah.
You want us to just call it the
big perfecto?
No.
What's the ring gauge?
What's the ring gauge, Mike?
It's a six and a quarter by 56
I.
Think he's the national sales
manager and he doesn't fucking
know.
I got so close sixty quarter by.
60.
It is a six and a they get 6 1/4
right?
Didn't I?
No.
Is it a 60?
Yes.
So why'd you just call it the
New 60?
'Cause you who wants to call it
by number?
This guy's in charge you.
Want to call it by the number?
This guy's in charge.
I'm surprised you didn't ask
ChatGPT what the new size of the
new war.
Barrel.
I don't have it handy right
here.
My phone's over there.
Well, Michael, the the new
warbearer, the beautiful size is
the new delicious, are you?
Trying to turn around to me.
You want us to call everything
by the number?
No, I know.
I think it should be the number.
I like that he's attacking you
now.
Well, it's because you're trying
to deflect.
No, it wasn't.
You're in construction business.
If somebody just go and go, I
would like A50 Kitchen.
I would like the 42 inch upper
cabinets, yeah.
Well, that's a 42 inch upper
cabinet because that's what it's
called.
But they don't come in and go.
I would like the 72 bathtub.
I bet you the Grand Toro
cabinets would sell better than.
That's right, Grand Toro.
I would like the Grand Toro.
Yeah, well, we can give you the
premium grand Toro ones, or you
could take the standard 42
inches.
Give me the grand Toros.
I don't.
Know right?
I'd like the grand Toro that
sounds.
Great over the 42 or the 54?
Either one.
Yeah, it's a grand.
Oh, now he's shutting down.
I'm not sure I know.
So are you excited about the
size or are you going to smoke
the cigar or no?
Of the Which one?
The Supreme Leaf, 6 by 54.
The 54?
Oh yeah, I mean, are you going
to smoke the 54?
Basically, why the Hell's my
nose so itchy today?
It's.
Basically a Toro.
So you're the grand Toro.
Yeah, it's a grand Toro.
So you you will buy it.
I would buy it and you would
smoke it.
I would smoke it.
Would you smoke it in front of
ginger and be like this is great
and not let him partake?
No, I would.
I would get him a cigar.
Too.
You get him one too?
Yeah, All right.
Just checking he's.
Very nice that way here.
Yeah, it's very nice.
He used to buy us stuff.
Palmer, are you?
Except would you?
Would you?
I don't.
I don't like their cigars.
You don't like?
I'm not a bit gay.
The Supreme.
Leaf.
The Supreme Leaf is the best
cigar out of the whole.
The supreme Leaf.
I agree.
Well, yes, it's a supreme one.
The Supreme Leaf is the best
agonorsa that they make.
That's why it's called Supreme.
Right.
I can only smoke.
There's cigars of Terrence's
here.
So you need him around all the
time.
If I'm going to smoke his stuff,
yes I need him.
Around you need Terrence
present, yes.
They're all bad.
Their tobacco's not bad.
They have some of the best
tobacco in the industry, I.
Find it to be a little bitter.
I don't know why, I just just
don't.
Just all their tobacco in
general.
Yeah, I just not a fan.
Not the personal.
Terrence, you're a wonderful
man.
You're very tall.
The Homer Simpson one did Well,
what was it called?
Homer Simpson, Yeah.
What was that one?
The.
Arsenio.
The Arsenio.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, well, well, what about?
Like the the.
Rare leaf was good.
I didn't like the rare.
Yeah, but it's not supreme.
It's only rare.
The Supreme was better than the
rare.
And then the Connecticut's good.
The Connecticut Rare Supreme.
No, no, just the.
Regular.
I like the Connecticut that.
Greg smokes, yes, because that's
all he smokes.
Yes, I like that one.
No, there's another one.
There's a different one.
Yeah, there's the one with the
blue and Silver Band.
Yeah, yeah, that one.
Yeah, I like that one.
You like that one?
Yeah.
So you do like some things
aganorsal.
Yeah, just not the supreme rare
and.
I like Fabian.
Well, that's Fabian's favorite
Connecticut.
Fabian's amazing.
Yeah, I like Fabian.
Yeah, well, I like Terrence, I
mean.
He took and Uncle Paul he took.
Paul, he like a lot more things
than you think.
He took people, he took somebody
out the other night, but he took
them out for teppanyaki where
the they cook the food in front
of you.
Hibachi.
Yeah, well, teppanyaki.
Teppanyaki is what you call in
China.
Sorry.
Hibas.
Hibachi's Japanese.
OK.
Sorry, just what I'm used to
calling it hibachi.
OK, He took somebody out for
hibachi and they even wore the
Daniel Miyagi headband.
Must have.
Must have the napkins around
their heads.
Must.
Have been a big account.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, it must have been.
Oh, they were the little ninja
turtle.
Ninja Turtle head headdress.
No, they look more like the
Miyagi dough karate ones.
We're not making the hibachi
list just for yeah.
No, we get, we get tapas.
He's like, oh, we're never
getting taken to another again.
He's like.
Come buy it.
Come on by, I'll get you an
appetizer.
Yeah, that's about the hibachi.
That's.
About the extent of it, that's
the extent of this account,
buddy.
OK, what's the next story?
Long time AJ Fernandez got that
anniversary cigar.
Long time AJ.
Celebrating 10 years of his
famous New World brand.
That's been, that's been out for
two years, 10.
Years. 10 years.
I'm surprised that that one's
been out for 10.
Years.
It's not new anymore.
It's called Old World.
Old World.
Yeah, AJ has created us, but we
better not.
It's not.
It's old.
Age, the not so new world.
Why?
AJ Well, he made a cigar for us
at one point through Espinoza.
It was delicious.
I got news for you, Palmer.
Nobody is safe, OK?
Not a single person in this
industry is safe from our humor.
All right, he's he made a
special cigar called the New Old
World Decennio.
Decennio is Spanish for a
decade, so it's about honoring
10 years of blending and
rolling.
Are we?
Going to mention another name or
do you have you have 5 names
positioned in this?
OK, all right, just relax.
I am relaxed.
This new cigar uses tobacco from
Mexico, Honduras and Nicaragua.
The wrapper is dark and oily,
giving it a rich, powerful
flavor.
You can still get the decennio
in three different sizes, a
robusto, or is busto, like a
call it the five and a half.
The Toro is 6 1/2 and Gordo is 6
inches.
What about the gauge?
I don't say.
It doesn't say, just says the
length.
Yep, they all come in boxes of
20 and they were made at AJ
Sanilitano factory in Nicaragua
Which?
Did not burn down.
Which did not burn down.
Judea Judea Fernandez, a JS
daughter.
Oh, is that his daughter's name?
Is that how you say his
daughter's name?
I doubt it.
That's.
Funny, I doubt it, too.
It's right Judea is that her dad
wanted this cigar to be special
and to remind J.
Yeah, it is, AJ.
So let's pronounce H adelia.
Adelia, that makes more sense.
Yeah, mine's fans, why the New
World brand has been such a hit.
So whether you're been smoking
New World cigars for years or
just getting started, the
decennio might be a perfect way
to celebrate something tasty and
new.
New World.
New World?
Like to pick a name?
Michael.
Like New Day.
Yeah, new day.
Oh God, alright.
Barely not.
Medic.
Say everything fun.
Don't hit the camera with your
head.
Hope you got all still in focus.
You're in focus.
Corey Davis.
Hey.
All right, the last Calaveras
2025, A cigar to remember.
Up next to the cigar with a deep
meaning.
Every year, the company Crown
Heads makes a special cigar to
honor people who have passed
away.
That's all we were talking about
with the AJ thing.
Yeah, that was, I guess it's
over.
He quickly moves.
On Yeah, we were at 46.
Man, well then you shouldn't
have picked a name.
You should have said you want to
talk about it.
What's the price point?
$15 There's no way he.
Just came out with that it's.
New World The new world is
usually a value to.
Yeah, it's probably like 10
bucks or 12 bucks.
It's probably less than that.
Think so.
The Toro, let's see, 1250 for
the robusto.
OK, 14 for the Toro and the
Gordo is 15.
It's a decade.
Wow.
It's got a purple band.
It's got a purple band.
Oh.
That's what.
That's why the price raise.
And this is a limited edition,
is there production numbers that
are specific or no?
Not limited.
It's going to be a regular
production item.
Just the 5th anniversary, bam.
10th anniversary. 10th
anniversary.
I'm sorry, Bam.
Supreme is the 5th anniversary,
correct?
That's felt like 10 years,
right?
Exactly.
And the New World's ten years.
Right.
They must have a lot of those
boxes at those purple and orange
boxes.
What do you do all these purple
boxes?
I don't know, just keep coming
out with another one.
They're.
Going to make another cigar.
We should release our vitolas
one at a time.
You want to know why it seems
like it's happened so fast?
Because they've released Supreme
Leafs back-to-back.
In a single year, they've done
2.
Different.
Yeah, they just keep.
Yeah, just a new size.
Yeah, OK.
We could have released San
Andreas during the whole course
of 2025, just a size every.
Month Robusto.
Then I just holding the one
back.
And now perfecto.
Why are we Mexican?
What are the dimensions on the
perfecto?
What's the dimensions of the
perfecto?
5 1/2 by 50, Michael.
It's no. 6 1/2 by 50 it's five
and a quarter it's a 50.
I got the 50.
I got the 50 right.
You know, I got all the blends
down now.
You gave me a hard time.
It's a 5 by 50.
We're so close.
Just read the next story,
Palmer.
Close but no cigar buddy.
You have saddened me a great
deal.
I got the blends down.
Now this is like Obi Wan with
Anakin as he's kind of burdened,
like you were the chosen one and
then I had to set you ablaze.
Cigar with deep meaning.
Every year, the company crown
heads.
Makes Las Calaveras.
Yes, for people who have passed
away.
It's called the Las Las
Calaveras, which means the
skulls.
Les skulls.
And Spanish is based on the
Mexican holiday Dia de Los
Muertos, or Day of the Dead, The
Day of the Dead.
This year, the 2025 version is
on its way to stores in July.
And it's something the cigar
fans look forward to every year.
Do you look forward to it every
year, Michael?
Yes, I do look forward to this
cigar.
Boots, you look forward to it
every year.
Whitney.
Yeah, Hello, Butch.
Yes.
Wow.
He kind of shook his head.
No, he did.
Like a deep blink.
No, I don't.
Why not?
I'm I'm not a fan of that one
really.
Yeah.
Why not?
That was the one that was like
pink, green and white.
It's a different color every
year.
Yeah, but I mean, this last one
it was.
Maybe.
Is it the colors or the cigar?
No, the cigar I like out of
crown heads.
I like the La Petisser.
La Petisser.
The LA petisser.
The LA Petisser, the pisser.
The pisser, the pisser the
pisser.
I like the.
Are we including Ozinger in
that?
Sure, Yeah, I like the
Bosphorus.
OK, Yeah, you do like the
Ozinger.
Yeah, that's about it.
I like the lost cows, the the
problem is that the first one
was the best one did.
That come out.
Probably past 10 years at this
point, yeah.
Everything's 5 or 10 years,
you're doing an increment.
It's.
Probably past 10 years, probably
12 years or so.
I'd I'd guess 12 years.
The new version uses a special
wrapper from Mexico called San
Andreas.
Everybody's using that now.
Yeah.
How about that?
It's.
Because it got good crops.
Which is only the second time
they've used this kind of
wrapper for Las Calaveras that
makes this kind of rare they're.
All kind of rare.
Well, no, that's the other
company with the rare leaf.
The Supreme Leaf.
They also have rare leaf.
Yeah, that one's not out yet.
No.
Well, I put up at.
That they came out with it, it
was already rare.
Rare.
Rare.
Rare.
No.
Something rare.
Rare.
Now.
Now they're going to make the
rare, rare, rare.
Oh yeah.
Underneath it has tobacco from
Nicaragua and the cigars are
made at the famous My Father
cigar factory, Nestle,
Nicaragua.
Yeah.
Nice.
So what's the binder?
What is the binder?
Tell me the binder.
It didn't say specific.
You don't know the binder.
It's not in the story.
Why not?
I don't know.
I don't write these.
Let me see if I can find the
binder.
One of those sizes.
There's 4 sizes with.
Prices.
Yeah, there are 4 sizes, yeah. 4
sizes with prices.
Well, there's actually 3 sizes
in the sampler pack.
Well, they're coming out with
four.
No, they're not OK.
What are the story they are?
OK, tell me the 314 and $16.
One of the sizes is a petite
lancero and it only comes in a
special sampler pack.
It's still one of the sizes.
It's 4 sizes and this one's in
the sinkler bag.
Crown Head says this year's
cigar is flavors of coffee,
toffee and espresso.
Toffee.
Toffee and espresso.
It's a big change from the usual
earthy or peppery cigars you get
with dark wrappers.
If you tried Los Calaveras
before, this year's version
might surprise you.
You might like this in boots.
I think you are going to like
this one.
Is the binder Nicaraguan?
It doesn't say.
What does it say?
Because they chose not to say.
Why not?
I don't know, sometimes.
Sometimes.
Can't you find?
Out.
I will find out before the
show's over.
I'm going to.
Contact John Huber and ask him.
John Huber and I aren't text
buddies.
Oh well then ask.
Ask the boys.
No, I, I go to the, I go to the
number one guy.
Yes, Miguel Chanel.
How's the shingles holding up?
The shingles are fine.
That's good.
They never really go away.
Yeah, it's like chicken pox.
I don't know, can you get a
chicken pox flare up?
If you get chicken pox, that's
how you get shingles.
Well, I understand that you get
chicken pox as a child.
You get shingles as an.
Adult, so they never go away,
right?
The chicken pox?
Yeah, sure they do.
They turned into shingles,
right?
I'm not going to all of a sudden
get chicken pox again.
It's the same thing.
No, it's not.
It's not.
No.
Are you sure?
Yeah, shingles, you get long
streaky marks on you.
Chicken pox, you get dots.
Did he, did he say?
Yeah, what did he say?
Vaguely says Nikko Binder.
Yeah.
Told you I'd find out it.
Took 60 seconds.
That's kind of vague.
It's.
Nicaraguan Binder.
It's like saying it's a 60.
It's like saying it's AI don't
know what size the Grand
Perfecto is of the war bear that
I'm supposed to sell everybody.
Says so like for the binder and
for the filler they usually say
just like country of origin.
Normally it's more common for
the filler, but at least the
binder you usually get some type
of reference.
I'm, you know, because like I'm
always curious to know what the
type of binder is, because the
binder can be, can do numerous
things as far as the way that
the ash goes, as far as the
offsetting of the burn, as far
as the flavour profile.
So I want to know what they did,
what the thought process was
with the wrapper and the filler.
And normally I can figure that
out with what binder they use.
Makes sense.
At the event this past Friday
night, Greg was talking about
the war bear to a couple people.
And the war bear story he was
telling was the catastrophic
failure story, how it was made
by accident.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So somebody was asking me and
they were saying that, well,
Greg told the system, that's a
different cigar.
Do you think he has like early
onset Alzheimer's or?
Something I just think he
doesn't know.
He heard you tell that story, so
he's just applying it somewhere
because it's a good story.
Catastrophic failure.
Yeah, how it got made, you know,
by accident it was supposed to
be.
And he's closed because it was
supposed to be the new war.
Bear.
It was made with the War Bear.
Originally, right?
Yeah, but Greg says that the
Grand Perfecto was made by
accident.
This.
Is why we don't let him out.
Right, all right, Rock Mattel
keeps prices steady of.
Course.
Except for once ago.
Yeah, do.
You know which one?
A decade.
He's wrong.
The really expensive one.
Emerald.
Oh, you're talking about the.
Contingency or some shit
contiary.
Cigars, are you getting more?
Copilot Roger Bird, actor I
don't know what's it called.
Let me keep up with the story.
I want to keep guessing Emerald
the Klingon.
Mostly because of terrorists,
which are extra taxes.
It would just let me hear this
story.
An extra tax is added when
cigars are brought into the US.
But Rocky Patel, one of the
biggest cigar brands, has some
good news.
In a letter to cigar shops,
Rocky Patel said his company
will not raise prices on most of
their cigars, even with those
new taxes.
That's right, most of their
lineup will stay the same price.
There's one catch, though.
Yeah.
So how is he able to keep the
price?
This isn't part of the story,
but we're discussing it now as
we go.
OK.
So do you think he has enough
margin built into this where he
can just eat the increase?
I mean, yes, yes, I do think
that that would be the case.
But is that what he's saying?
Probably not.
No.
So his his he does not have his
own factory, is that correct?
I don't know.
He might have a factory, who
knows?
Well I don't think he does
because the his cigars in part
of the story is listed what he
gets from where.
OK, so does if the factory
doesn't pass it on to him who
who ends up getting charged for
the tariff?
Is it Rocky Patel or the
factory?
Well, whoever pays the import
fees.
So Rocky.
So like the reality is it can go
either way.
Like if you if you handle the
the cost from the factory and
like you get shipment in import,
you pay that fee so.
The cigar that he's raising the
price on is because the factory
is passing the increase on to
him.
They're saying you got to pay
this.
Yeah, so, so, So what they do is
they gave it to him.
Soup to nuts delivered, and here
it is.
Right.
So the Java line of cigars,
those are the ones the favorite
infusion, yes, that's the price
increase.
That's because Java cigars are
made by Drew a state and they
decided to raise prices.
So Java cigars are your thing
that you might see a price jump
from 70 to $0.75 per stick.
Do they?
I thought they I haven't seen
those in a while.
They still make javas.
They do.
We don't really carry.
We carry the mint or the cherry.
We used to carry one or the.
Other we've carried them in the
past, right?
I mean, you know, like
realistically it's, it's big in
catalogs.
So, you know, why would we carry
it as a retailer?
Fans of Rocky Patel, other
lines, the vintage, the sun
grown or the edge prices are
staying put.
Rocky says he wants to help
retailers and customers during a
tough time, and keeping prices
steady is one way to do that.
Now that's what we call a smooth
move, Rocky.
Wow, dude, stop.
Don't do it ever again, OK?
Just kill it.
It was a good test.
I'm glad that you took your
shot.
Some things work, some things
don't.
I'm glad you too.
I, you know, I honestly applaud
you taking your shot for sure
because you got to always
continue to evolve and try and
make things better.
This one is, just for the
record, a lot easier to read
though.
Without the comment?
Without the commentary.
Yeah, I, you know, I look,
we're, I don't care what anybody
says.
We're in a recession, whether
you want to admit it or not,
right?
Yeah.
You know, you're seeing pull
backs from a lot of people.
You know, they had a great run.
It was almost five years of up,
up, up, price, price, price all
the way around, whether it was
cost of production, cost of
product, cost of shipment, they
parlayed it, they added on to
it.
You know, at some point, like
you have seen pullback, it
requires more effort to sustain
your sales in this year than it
did COVID years, five years ago,
without question.
So the real ones, the real
brands, the real product, the
real manufacturers or what do
they call them brand owners, the
ones that are going to produce
and continue to grow in this, in
this time right now, they're the
ones you're going to see succeed
long term.
You know, it's just, it's just
like anything else right now,
like five years ago if you
wanted to buy a house.
It's a place you have best offer
and it was a battle, right?
Sure.
Now, you know, it's like, oh,
oh, it's listed.
Oh, it's been listed for 120
days.
Yeah.
I want to take 20% off that
price.
Let me know if you take it.
Yeah, It's called a recession.
OK.
All right, the Travelling Cigar
Roadshow returns in 2025.
Oh.
What's that?
We talked about this last year,
didn't.
We talked about it last year,
but.
They're not really.
On the road, no, it's not coupe.
Not Coop.
We stopped talking about Coop.
He didn't cover our last press
release.
Ready to hit the road?
Because the traveling roadshow
is back for summer 2025 and it's
making 21 stops across the
country.
The Cigar road trip is like a
small trade show where cigar
makers meet shop owners and
fans, show off their latest
products, and of course, light
up some cigars together.
Big names like Altadiz USA, Cle
Cigar Company, Oliva and Rocky
Patel are all part of it.
They have a special special
events in places like Tampa,
Chicago, Dallas, Las Vegas,
Boston and more.
Oh yeah, I remember this right.
But it's not necessarily the
headliners like Rocky isn't.
Well, Rocky's not going to be
there, but he's the Rep I would
imagine is going to be there.
Yeah.
Each event has cigars, food,
drinks and even giveaways.
You might even get to meet the
folks who actually make your
favorite cigars, like the
rollers.
Is it open?
Well, I think they mean like a
Rocky Battelle you might meet.
Rocky.
Maybe, But you see how they left
it open?
You might.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's not guaranteed.
He'll probably only be the ones
close to his house.
Yeah.
So the roadshow kicks off July
22nd in Fort Lauderdale, FL.
Who?
Else in that list, do you want
to see?
That's an owner.
That's a.
Guy Oliva, I mean from that,
from that list they gave, I
don't, I mean.
Who else is in that list?
Oliva Rocky.
General.
Celie All right, Christian.
All right.
Christian's cool.
All to this is I mean, So what
is?
All to this.
I know who did both.
Don't they have other brands
under them?
Is there anybody?
Monte Cristo?
I don't know, Mr. Monty.
Yeah, This is the guy.
This is, you know, the Cuban
brand that we took and we
started replicating in the
Dominican Republic.
This is like, what are we doing?
I don't understand.
So is this open to the public?
It's probably at events,
probably at art stores.
Yeah, it's a roadshow.
They just give the cities and
it's like exactly where.
I mean, can we just start
announcing our events on half
wheel?
Well, I think this is, but these
are like all these guys are
going to be there at the same
time.
Yeah, but like, who cares?
But that's what I don't know if
it's open to like you go when
you buy stuff for your shop or
Boots goes because he wants to
buy.
I doubt that.
I think it's for for consumers.
Oh, you think so?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's.
What it's Oh, so then it's just.
Well, that's kind.
Of maybe we should start
announcing.
We tried that, they said.
We don't.
We don't do events.
Who said that?
Charlie did.
Then what is this?
That's what I'm saying.
It sounds like a small trade
show.
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
It's not a small trade show, is
it?
Oh yeah, it's open from 5:50 and
meant for retailers.
Interesting.
But sometimes fans get in too if
they know the right people, so I
guess you could take boots.
It was such a success last time,
they decided to do it again.
Apparently.
I'm just not understanding.
Oh, it started in 2025 years.
Ago how they're going to
multiple cities.
That's what you said, right?
Yes.
And they're having it's a trade
show.
It's a mini trade show.
So they did it, but they haven't
done it every year.
They did it 2020 and they're
doing it again this year.
They come a summer tradition.
It says, oh, if you're a cigar
lover, mark your calendar.
The Traveling Cigar Roadshow
might be rolling into a city
near you.
OK.
So it's a place for you to buy
well or Greg?
I'm not interested in going.
No.
Why would Greg drive to Tampa
when the Rep could just come
here?
Yeah, it just, it makes no sense
to me whatsoever.
Unless they're special deals.
Yeah, we're no longer flipping.
No, he's just playing a video
game.
Yeah, I'm.
Flipping.
No, you're not.
He's not looking, he's just.
I don't think he's flipping at
all.
I'm.
Flipping.
He's texting somebody.
Texting No, it says.
Texting Ginger Oh, I love you
more.
Texting Ginger No, I love you
more.
But that's why he's texting
Ginger.
No, no.
I love you more.
Yeah.
It's from 2021.
It's from 2021, so it's been
going on for four years.
Yeah, well, this said 20, but
you know, 6 to 1, half dozen the
other.
Interesting.
It was a long list of cities.
Doesn't sound like OK.
I mean, if you were in Tampa,
maybe, but it's.
Just a weird thing like.
What if it was in Deltona?
No.
At the city center or whatever
else?
No.
No, you still wouldn't.
Well, yeah, but doing fair you
don't go to.
Anything I got, stuff I got to
do, yeah.
You don't go to anything, you're
too busy.
But would Greg go?
Have you heard there was a deal
on something there?
On what?
The deal would have to be
monstrous anyways.
It's no Oliva Oliva's already
they've doomed themselves.
They've hooked up with Cigar
Page and they sell on their
direct consumer at a deep
discount.
I'm not excited to go see Oliva.
What if Roma was part of it?
No.
There's no brand.
Not that dumb.
There's no brand.
Well, we're saying for the sake
of argument, Michael, that
they've agreed to be.
Like they like they smoke some
meth and they decided to get a
part I don't.
Know why they maybe, maybe they
got a good deal or something
from the roadshow people.
I don't know who's putting it
together.
It doesn't say.
It's a mystery.
Are all these brands related
from some way, I don't think
under some giant umbrellas.
So how do they get all these
people together?
That's all Justin Andrews.
Plan, they're all big brands
though.
They're all legacy brands,
right?
Or mainstream.
I wouldn't call them legacy.
They call them mainstream.
Mainstream.
Yeah, so maybe it's like ACI
Roadshow.
It's ridiculous what it.
Is oh that's what they should do
in the CI parking lots.
That would be easier for them.
Yeah, there you got all the
cigars.
There.
OK.
Hey, moving on.
I think we are.
Yeah, let's move on from that.
All right, cigar fans, it's time
for the new game that's sweeping
the cigar world.
Would you like to pick another
winner real quick?
Indeed I would.
Pick another name.
Or do you have so you're going
through the list how many names
you have left?
I got 2.
OK, after this one or including
this one?
After this one I'll have one.
OK, perfect.
Jason Day, OK.
All right, it's time for What's
the score?
Here's how it works.
I'm going to read you some clues
from a real cigar review,
straight from my friends over at
half.
Will I tell you what the
reviewer said?
How it smelled, how it smoked,
what flavors they packed up, all
the good and the bad stuff.
Your job is to try and guess
what the final score Cigar got
on a scale of zero to 100.
OK.
All right.
Now I've been told this has
become quite the home game.
People are playing along at
home.
They're guessing.
Yeah, yes, yes, people are
guessing, right.
So will it be a high scoring
favorite or a total flavor fall?
Right now the current score is I
am leading with one and boots
has half .5.
All right, play along with us at
home, test your cigar instincts
and get ready to shout out,
shout to your speakers, because
it's time to play.
What's the score?
Boots, boots, boots.
Boots, Boots.
Sorry, that was funny.
All right.
Our first review was by Patrick.
Oh boy.
Is that your second one?
Yes.
Of the Amazon, Yeah.
All right, Cigar.
Sorry, that's a good point,
right?
All right, the cigar reviewed
Gold Star Robusto.
Oh boy.
Country of origin.
Dominican Republic Factory.
Tablo Calera.
William Ventura.
The Rappers.
Ecuadorian Habano, 2000.
Intermedio OK, it's important to
know.
All right, did this just come
out?
Yes, this is the new one.
This is a new release, yes, OK.
Binders Indonesian Sumatra
fillers Dominican Republic.
It's a 5 inch by 52 so they just
call it a 52 boots.
So it's Dominican filler,
period.
Correct. 5 by 50. 2 it's a
robusto, sells for $12.00 a box
of 22140 dollars.
Release date is March 2025.
OK, number of cigars released,
regular production, number of
cigars smoked for review is 3
All right, all right, first.
Oh yes.
Now, you went first last time.
Yeah.
All right, so I'll go first this
time.
I'm going to say 88.
All right, 88 boots just burned
his hand.
I'm.
Going to go 86. 8688 Yep.
All right, first clue.
The three cigars all start a bit
differently, kind of a
Goldilocks phenomenon where the
1st is mild, the third is packed
with dry wood pepper and
something that imitate irritates
my eyes, and the second strikes
a good balance but dodges the
irritation You.
Know I like the description of
Goldilocks.
So three different cigars.
All different.
All the three same cigars gave
him different impressions
originally.
Welcome to Dominican Republic,
baby.
Was that the end of that Palmer?
Yes, yeah, I'm going to go 87.
So you went down one?
Yeah, Boot, you're at 86.
Must stay at 86.
Must.
Stay at 86 second clue heading
to the midpoint of the first
cigar.
The smoke is irritating my eyes
with a fervor, reaching a point
where I have to get up and rinse
them out in hopes of alleviating
the sensation, only to get more
of it when I return to the
cigar.
So he's been injured.
Yes, this cigar is injured.
Is watery eyes?
Is that part of the scale?
Apparently makes a difference.
You're at 87, he's still at 86.
Well, you kind of hinted at
watery eyes prior to on the
first.
Well, it's unusual.
No, well, you said it in the
first kind of clue.
So I kind of incorporated that
in my 87.
So I think I'm going to stick
87.
All right.
I'm.
Going to stay at 86.
He's not changing.
All right.
Third clue I've.
Not read anything about these.
Guys, to say I've been enjoying
the creaminess of the second
third would be an
understatement, which is why I'm
disappointed to see it leave the
Gold Star Robusto as the final
third gets underway, and do so
rather quickly.
So it tastes good.
Not the first half, not the
first.
This.
Thing has injured him.
I'm bleeding out of my eyeballs.
But it's.
Delicious, but it tastes good.
If you can survive the first
third.
The second third's great, but
then put it down because the
third third is no bueno.
Holy moly.
Damn, this is a tough one.
I'm going to stick 87, I think.
I don't think I have much of A
choice here.
You know, part of me wants to go
down to like 85.
I've been thinking about that,
but I'm going to stay at 86
since you stayed at 87.
So you guys are sticking it to
your scores?
Final thoughts.
All right, Final thoughts.
When getting to the summary part
of a cigar review, I often try
to think about the one or two
things I will remember most
about a cigar, and what would be
the things I'd be hoping to get
from the cigar the next time I
smoke one.
In the case of the Gold Star
Robusto, there are two things I
will remember.
The first is the incredible
level of irritation that two of
the cigars gave me.
The second is how good the
creaminess is in the middle
section and what it does to take
fairly familiar flavor, what it
does, you know, to take fairly
familiar flavors and turn them
into a complex profile.
Given these two things, the
question is whether I'd
recommend it recommended dealing
with the first of the benefits
like the first for the benefits
of the second.
OK, Whether he would deal with
the eye orientation because you
like this, the flavor, all
right.
And I'm not sure I would.
While the flavor is very good,
the irritation seems like an
unnecessary part of the
experience.
If that one part could get
removed from the experience, the
Gold Star Robusto would get a
much more enthusiastic
recommendation.
I don't understand sometimes the
way he writes these things.
Can I go 85 is the question.
He he really doesn't like the
cigar, but he's.
He likes the he he says he likes
the flavour, but the eye
irritation is really pissing him
off.
It's really not worth it.
I don't see what he's saying.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, it's.
Also so irritating I don't know
if I would smoke.
It's kind of like he's trying to
let down his, you know, his
date, you know, like, easy.
Maybe they're a sponsor of?
You know, you're really nice,
but.
It's me, it's not you.
It's.
United.
It's me.
This is your boy, Patrick David
Garofalo.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, the cigar.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
Man, this is tough.
You picked a good one.
I think I'm going to have to
stick 87.
If not, I'd have to jump to 85.
So I think I'm going to stick.
Can you not have the same score
as him if you so chose?
I know that was one of the
rules.
Is that one of the rules?
Yeah, we could have picked the
same number.
I thought we could.
What's wrong with that?
Well, then there'd be a tie and
just a.
Push.
I'm OK with the push.
No, no ties.
First of all, I'm picking first.
What difference does that?
Make So if I pick 86 then he's
got to pick a different number.
Except he's already at 86.
Yeah, he's already at 86, but
that's.
My point?
So if I want to pick the same
number he has, I can.
No, I don't see the problem in
that.
Well, we're two out of the I.
Hope everybody's screaming at
the screen right now.
You're.
Right.
No, no ties.
There's no ties in.
What's the score?
There's no ties in.
What's the score?
OK, well I'm going to stick 87.
Boots.
What are you going to what are
you going to do?
I'm.
Going to stay at 86.
It's 86.
Bam, Bullshit I.
Figured that.
Now he's calling bullshit
because he lost.
He's such a bad.
But I'm but again, like these
scores are crazy because he
completely hated this cigar
like.
No, it had some redeeming
qualities.
He liked the flavour, but it
burned the shit out of his eyes.
I just think even like at 86 is
just high.
What is considered a?
Can we start writing our cigars
on the Patreon like this?
What is considered a good score?
I mean what what what are you
happy at if you get an above?
Is it in the 90s?
The answer is it depends on who
reviewed it.
That's true.
You did mention.
That.
Before is there not like an
average number that would be
everybody?
No, listen, if Charlie scores
something at an 88, I'm like,
damn, all right?
Oh so OK, you're happy with an
88 from?
Charlie, yeah, 88 from Charlie's
like, OK, that's pretty good.
Brooks scores you an 88 and
you're not happy.
No, no, if Brooks gives you an
88, my God, say the least bit if
I think if it's ours, I think
that Brooks needs to give it at
least a 90.
And if Brooks gives it a 90 or
above, I know he liked it.
If he gave it an 88, like I'm
just giving you the, the, the
rating, the rating that I think
that they like the cigar, right?
Patrick would probably have to
be an 89 or a 90 man.
That's maybe 89.
Why even have it on a scale from
one to 100?
Because there's variables that
you have to consider that will
rank it.
Give it 10 points, 20 points, 10
points, 20 points here here I'm.
Sure, if you if you ask them,
they would probably try to say
it's all even an 86 from
Charlie's the same as an 86 from
Patrick.
Yeah.
Well, it's not.
No, it's not.
Right.
Yeah, it's definitely not.
It's not.
Especially when you get injured
through your eyes.
It's not if I see a 90 or a 91,
I want to see who did it.
And if I see a C91, like that's
a Unicorn right there, buddy.
I'm like hell yeah.
What's?
Even crazy is he washed out.
If you had to wash out your eyes
when you started smoking a
cigar, yeah.
Would you continue to the
middle?
Yeah, smoke.
Three of them.
When two of them burned your
eyes.
I know.
I think I might give up.
Go is this got a 22.
I'm pulling this turn out.
You have two names left, or one.
One all right.
All right.
The next review is from Brooks.
And did you know before halfway
was halfway?
It was called smokinstogies.com.
I did not know that.
This is from smokinstogies.com.
Holy Moke.
Have these listed on their
website.
Brooks has been around that
long.
It's. 2003.
So they have a different website
for their older one.
Yes, originally there was a
another gentleman whose name I
saw, but I I didn't pull a
review because nobody knew who
he was and I didn't think that
would have been fair.
He's probably the Unicorn.
So.
He probably rated 100.
Smoking stogies is the original
half wheel and this is from
2003. 2003 God I was in high
school.
Yes, this is the Arturo Fuente
Hemingway classic Sun Grown.
How old was Brooks in this?
Yeah, that's.
What I was thinking too, how old
was?
Brooks 22 years ago. 22 years
ago.
Was he 12?
This is a cigar that's still
around, though, right?
That's why I picked it.
Yeah.
This is a standard Arturo Fuente
cigar.
All right.
Country of origin Dominican.
Wait a second.
Yeah, we go right now.
No, I read you this, the
introductory stuff, and then you
vote.
No, you say this is who it is,
this is who it's from.
And then I guess.
Price point, whatever.
Yeah, you just give us the
basics.
Yeah, well, that's what I'm
giving you now, is the.
Basics all I give you so.
Far is the name.
Yeah, the name and who did it I.
Think I read this first part
first.
Well, two of us say yes and you
say no.
No, I edit all the clips.
I think that I stare at these
more than you do all.
Right.
Fine, Michael, go ahead.
OK90A.
Hemingway.
Yes.
I'm gonna go 88.
Factories Table Calera A Fuente
how?
Many Hemingway's Have you given
this guy?
Have you given him a Hemingway?
Hemingway.
Yeah, I mean, you got to think
this is 2003.
This is like before anything
else, a lot of small things.
This this is when Fuente was a
small guy.
This is before boutique, right?
I mean Fuente is considered
boutique and probably at this
point like 90.
When did they create the Opus
9796?
Something like that.
This is 22 years ago though,
right?
It was before Boutique.
There's not a lot of boutiques
at this point in 2003, I can
tell you that much.
OK, go ahead.
Let's stay ahead.
Andy Palmer.
Rapper Ecuadorian sun grown
binder unknown filler Dominican
Republic.
It's a 7 by 48 to perfecto.
MSRP back then was $7.90 Jesus
date release 2003.
I think Hemingway's are double
that price now. 90. 88.
The cigar itself is quite rough
to the touch, with very little
oil to speak of.
The reviews were much shorter
back into that.
Yeah, it seems like.
That's it.
That's all you're giving me.
That's all I'm giving you. 89.
Oh, we went down one.
I'm 88.
The second third started with a
literal explosion of spice.
The Hemingway classic calms down
after about 15 puffs, but the
spice stays in the background
for the next for the rest of the
cigar. 90.
Wow, why are you jumping around
so much?
He went down the back up.
Yeah, Alpha Pepper.
He said he liked the cigar.
You said it mellowed out in its
flavour profile, but the spice
continued forward.
I'm saying an idiot. 88 I'm
sorry.
Yeah.
All right.
Out of nowhere, the cigar gets
extremely bitter.
Not the well let's keep smoking
and it will get better bitter,
but more like the the cigar down
bitter.
Like my eyes in the future are
going to be injured better.
That was a different person.
Got the burning?
Damn that owes you 3 quiz.
Damn.
You went high off the RIP.
It's Brooks and it's a Fuente,
but it's 22 years old.
Does Brooks?
Is he favourable on Fuentes?
No, Brooks. 22 year, but it's
not a 22 year old cigar.
Back in 2003 it could have been
very fresh.
Yeah, maybe he's a little angry
at that point in his life.
Wet right off the press and this
is probably in the beginning
stages of him smoking, right?
89. 88.
All right, final thoughts.
Disappointment does not even
begin to describe what I was
feeling at the end of the cigar.
I was expecting a fusion of two
of my favorite cigars and
instead I got a foul tasting
mess.
Every time I hear about a cigar
that I've been wanting to try
and get a bad rating, the first
thing I ask about is where the
cigar came from and where had it
been stored, as storage
conditions can be a huge factor
in the quality of the final
smoke.
I know exactly where these
cigars have been since they were
released and I have to assume,
but these specific sticks have
just gone way past their prime
for the perhaps never to return
to anything close to their
former glory.
For those of you playing at
home, you're probably really
screaming at this point because
now we're completely off of the
fucking numbers. 85, 85.
Oh man, yeah, 'cause he
completely hated the cigar.
This is probably ranks way lower
than that.
You know what's crazy though, is
that these guys don't rank
things super low, even if
they're.
Bad.
Hold on.
I'm going to go lower.
I want to change my.
Can't change your score.
Why not?
Because you.
I haven't committed yet.
Yes, you did.
You gave your score.
Now he's going.
I'll allow it.
I'll allow it.
All right, fine.
Go ahead, 75.
All right, Booch.
I'm going 86. 65.
I told you I have.
I thought they were the lowest
one was the last one we did.
I thought, well, this was not
technically a halfway review.
This is Stogie Press or Stogie
Smoke at stogies.com.
OK, so I.
Found the archives.
So after two weeks.
We're tied.
We are tied.
I gained 1/2 a point and you
gained a full and now we both
have 1 1/2 points.
Man this guy gave a super low
score on a Fuente cigar, but he
likes Fuentes but he didn't like
this one.
See how well he might like the
but do.
You see how spot on he was on
the first one?
Just saying.
I did.
He's reading all the reviews.
I never read half will of
anything.
OK.
How do you know how they make
all their money?
Half wheel.
Ad space buddy.
Ad space.
That's it, huh?
Of course, when you look at
their website to cheat, you
should look at all the ads.
To cheat.
Yeah, you should look at the ads
when you cheat.
They're everywhere.
All right, Listener of the Week,
Kent Myers.
Kent Myers.
I'm not familiar with Kent.
Yes, Jack Serrano ran into him
when he was out gallivanting I
believe in Arkansas.
Oh yes, Jack was in Arkansas
West.
Yeah, Arkansas.
And he mentioned the show.
Yeah, he mentioned the show.
Oh, excellent.
So, Kent, thank you for your
support, buddy.
Thanks.
All right, Shop of the Week, Old
Allegheny Smoke Shop.
Yeah, with Steve and Sarah.
Steve and Sarah.
All right, you got one more
name.
I do.
All right.
Last name.
Miguel Rocha.
Oh, I like him.
That's a good name.
All right, he's been episode
394.
We are going to go smoke the
dagger from Cao the dagger.
The dagger with a picture of a
machete on the package.
What's that to you all?
Right.
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Show Notes
Intro for Episode 394 – “Robotaxis, Rescue Missions & $50M Weddings”
Welcome back to the Cigar Hustlers Podcast—Episode 394! This week, we’re taking a wild ride through the latest trending world news and, of course, the ever-evolving cigar scene. We kick things off with Elon Musk’s ambitious yet bumpy robotaxi launch in Austin—turns out, the Teslas are driving themselves… right into trouble. Then we discuss a dramatic man-overboard rescue aboard a Disney cruise, a $50 million wedding that wiped Lauren Sanchez’s Instagram clean, and some spicy commentary from Mikey on Joe Rogan and Liver King.
On the cigar front, we break down exciting new releases from Micallef, Supreme Leaf, AJ Fernandez, and more—including a closer look at the Gold Star Robusto and the bittersweet letdown of the Hemingway Classic Sun Grown.
Plus, listener of the week and our Shop of the Week.
Buckle up—this one’s packed tighter than a perfecto!