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ACHP Episode 401 Taylor takes over, Mr Beast is in Trouble, Hurricane Cat 5

ACHP Episode 401 Taylor takes over, Mr Beast is in Trouble, Hurricane Cat 5

Transcript

Yeah, welcome to episode 401 of

the Cigar Hustler Podcast.

Hello, Michael.

Mr. Palmer, It's 11.1g by the

way.

Thank you very much.

How are you?

What?

I'm fine.

Thank you.

How are you?

I've missed you.

Just long regular weekend.

It's been 2 days.

Far, far too long.

Far too long.

Far too long.

We had no interaction actually

over the weekend at all.

It's very peaceful for me.

Oh, it's.

Been peaceful.

That was not what he was looking

for.

All right, August 29th we have

the in store release of the

Cenizafina Connecticut cigar.

Oh, that's fantastic.

You should comment on these.

Things very excited about that.

Make sure you attend that event

to support Cigar Hot Slur.

August 30th I'll be at Cigar

Life in Lakeland, FL for a

Postonia event from 6:00 to

11:00 PM, also featuring Adrian

Palmer from the Florida Cigar

Club.

If you're in the area and you

love Postonia and want to

support Postonia in a great

store, you should stop by Cigar

Life on that date.

Nice.

The ice maker Greg drops his

wallet.

Wow, it's.

Heavy and again, yeah, this.

Got a lot of money in there.

This past week I was on the Nice

Ash podcast where we smoked a

the Postonia Habano and they do

a rating show so as you smoke it

they rate it.

Seem kind of silly for me to

rate it.

I gave it five stars.

But seems silly.

Seems silly but they gave 4 1/2

but we talked all about

conspiracy theories and then

they time the show and how long

it takes you to smoke the cigar.

Interesting.

So it's a little cigar.

It'd be a quick show.

What?

Were the conspiracy?

Did you cover 9/11?

How do?

You not cover 911 when it comes

to conspiracy.

Because there is no North

Dakota.

There's no North Dakota.

Do you know any?

Have you ever met anybody from

North Dakota?

Yes.

Yeah.

South Dakota.

No, South Dakota has the the

heads in the on the thing, but

North Dakota heads.

Yeah.

Mount Rushmore.

I couldn't think of the name.

And North Dakota heads.

North Dakota is not famous for

anything.

The North Dakota has two Air

Force bases.

Wow.

Well, that's not that wasn't

listed on the list of things

they're famous for.

They're famous for like Indian

culture.

Is that not important in

American?

History.

Let me verify this.

You're an Indian.

If you're an Indian, that's

really important.

I would.

Ask you a question, Palmer.

Do you like to go to the casino?

No, actually I don't.

Yeah, I have been to North

Dakota.

Have you?

Yeah, I drove there.

You sure I'm positive?

Maybe it was South Dakota.

I'm positive.

The roads are flat and the meth

is bluntiful.

I mean, I don't know if.

They are for their.

Allegedly, no, but there isn't.

There is a North Dakota.

OK.

There are two major Air Force

bases there, Minot and Grand

Forks, right?

One of them is specializing in

drones.

The other one, I don't know, I

think like nuclear bombs or

something.

I honestly have no idea, but I

have been there.

Or maybe you went to Canada?

No, I no, I didn't have to.

I had no passport.

We don't need one for Canada.

That's.

Silly, that was your conspiracy.

That was the big one.

Yeah.

Well, the way they were talking

about it, it made complete

sense.

That was the big one.

Then I looked up.

I looked up the seven things

they're famous for and it was

stuff like open land.

It is very open.

Indians, I mean, and you can

find Indians anywhere.

I mean, unless we keep them all

there.

It's extremely flat, right?

It's very.

Very flat.

Very nothing.

I get it.

Nothing but.

We talked about how squirrels

and pigeons are fake.

Oh man, you guys were really

reaching.

You didn't cover any serious

conspiracies.

Why cover the serious ones?

The other ones are funnier.

They're they're more

entertaining.

No way Epstein files.

Like that's not a conspiracy.

That's not a list.

That's an excellent thing.

Is there a list?

Isn't there a list?

That's a good conspiracy right

there.

There's like, it wasn't my show,

Michael.

I just do.

I just was entertaining and

funny and talked about hours of

guys, OK?

Five stars.

Well, that's great.

I'm glad you were on.

If you want, if you support us,

please check out the podcast of

what is it called?

Nice.

Ash.

Nice Ash Oh, the episode will

issue.

The episode will come out on

September 10th.

OK, 910 the day before we never

forget.

I'll put all the links and stuff

up.

Never forget.

Never forget, yeah.

OK, that's my wedding

anniversary.

September 10th or 9. 11910 not

911 Oh my God.

Well, it was way before, wasn't

it?

So.

Yeah, no.

Oh, oh, you could.

Have been on a plane going to

your honeymoon?

Oh, that have been terrible.

That have been terrible.

Yeah.

OK.

So what else you got?

All right, welcome to episode

401 in cigars or podcast.

This week, we're diving into the

biggest stories making

headlines.

Mr. Beast gets slapped with a

lawsuit from Spaulding over the

Beast trademark Mr. Beast.

Taylor Swift breaks the Internet

with her new with her surprise

debut of the New Heights

podcast, and Hurricane Aaron

makes history as the first

category five of the season.

We'll also catch you up on cigar

entry news from Arturo Fuente

shaking up international

distribution to Cigars

International expanding into new

markets, plus PCA's new global

education push.

And of course, we'll finish with

what's the score?

I love it.

What's the score?

What's the score?

All right, Trending news.

What?

What?

That's it.

That's what we're doing, yeah.

You don't talk about the shirts,

but before we get into.

It Michael, how can I get a

shirt?

God, Mr. Palmer, Yes, you

embarrass yourself.

How do you not cover this?

You're supposed to say this.

This is a part of your thing.

Just talk about the shirts.

Well, thank you so much for

asking me, Mr. Palmer, what you

want to do.

But like sitting in the audience

today is is the mayor Dak Maybe

he would like to get a shirt.

See now I even I even introduced

the boot.

Boot just did an outright for.

He did a spit take on the other

microphone.

There's spit all over the board,

the monitor.

I thought the interruption was

completely classic, right?

There all over Sandra Palmer,

everything.

I did have to apologize for that

on the other podcast, by the

way.

For Palmer.

For interrupting.

Oh, I'm sorry, it's a thing, I

can't help it, I apologize.

Please continue.

Yeah, I don't know how you're

not concussed.

Yeah.

So yeah, Chapter pod.com, if you

like, and support what we're

doing here.

We are releasing shirts almost

every month.

There'll be a brand new shirt.

We release 2 this month,

Alcatraz, New York in honor of

our boy Boots.

It's the Best Buy it.

And the Postonia SBC 24?

Sure.

I like that one too, right?

There's still some BDP shirts

left so if you want to go if you

buy 1 you get the 2nd 140% off.

Shout out to Franz Leto, Norman

Joseph.

Cigar vault, Mark.

Cigar Vault, Oakdale.

So I'm sorry, I always screwed

that up.

And they get mad.

Yeah.

Cigar Vault, Oakdale.

There's a lot of cigar vaults.

Cigar Vault Oakdale.

Oakdale is the best one.

Our boy Mark Palmer, Travis

Peterson, Julian Gordon and Joel

Olezinski.

Olezinski.

Olezinski.

Yeah, yeah.

So we've sold the most shirts

we've ever done so far.

This month.

This month we've already broken

a record banner month, so I just

wanted to shout out to some of

those guys that place orders,

you know, until it gets out of

control, then I won't do that.

Oh, so every every month we'll

announce the I mentioned some

names.

Oh, actually, I like that, you

know.

Not all the names, but some of

the names.

Some of the names, we're going

to get letters from the people

that you didn't.

Mention letters.

I would love a letter.

All caps.

All caps Yeah, I just meant a

single letter.

Yeah.

Now also, just so everybody

knows, if you like what we're

doing and you want to support

us, all you got to do is like

subscribe and share our posts.

Just do that.

Please, for love of God, we need

the support.

All right, and we appreciate you

guys.

So all right, now go on with

your show.

Trending News What's wrong?

Oh, what are we doing for the

Patreon?

I don't know what are we doing.

Show it.

You should know, 'cause we

covered this, we're doing the

Casa Cuba.

Perfect.

It's crooked.

That we talked about at the end

of the show.

Last episode did.

We talk about it on the Patreon

or the regular.

Show the regular Show said well

then we're going to do a Patreon

version of the Casa Cuba because

he.

Said all the fuente.

Yeah, that's.

Right.

Are you OK?

No.

You're not OK.

Stroke is, that's obvious.

I'm fine.

Did you red light?

No, no, I did not really.

No.

Did you take your medicine?

Yes.

Are you sure?

Yes, it's blood pressure

medicine has nothing to do with

my.

Head OK 'cause I feel like maybe

you didn't take your medicine

today.

Maybe my ginkgo biloba?

Mr. Bulmer did not take his

medication.

Are you ready to go?

Yeah, let's go.

Everybody's on you.

I had.

To I had to start this now 4 *

I.

Had to clean up your mess the

beginning of this broadcast you

keep.

Interrupting.

Yeah, because.

This is amazing.

Because somebody had to clean up

your mess and here I am

facilitating orders shipping

product for you.

I'm sorry, I'm out doing other.

Things.

But did I?

Did I complain?

I just picked up the ball and

just carried.

Forward I can't sit here every

day, neither can I.

And yet I still took care of it.

What?

You're here doing stuff.

Sometimes, hey.

You're ready now because Mr.

Beast is getting very upset.

We.

I was born ready.

Let's go.

I want to light this cigar, so

let's go.

Alright, Mr. Beast.

With my how about that cigar

lighter?

Yes, I love the lighter.

With my how about that cigar

lighter?

Oh.

And then nice, yes.

Oh, it's in gun shape.

From my boy Matt Tie.

Mine's at the house.

Bam.

OK, I'm ready now.

Sure, one more time please, I.

Can't confirm with.

Mr. Beast sued by Spalding over

the Beast basketball trademark

Spalding James Jimmy Donaldson,

better known as YouTube star Mr.

Beast, I don't know his real

name, is facing a lawsuit from

Russell Brand's parent company

of Spalding over the use of the

mark the Beast on basketballs

and footballs and a federal

complaint filed in Kentucky.

Russell argues that it has owned

the registration trademark the

Beast since 2003, covering the

basketball's equipment and

accessories.

Spalding markets its own the

Beast basketball system, and the

company says it has invested

heavily in building the brand's

recognition.

Mr. Beast, whose YouTube channel

is the most subscribed in the

world with over 422 million

followers, sells merchandise

ranging from candy to apparel,

the sports gear through his

online store and retailers like

Amazon and Walmart.

Among those items were

basketball brands with the

Beast, which Russell says are

nearly identical to its mark.

Russell first objected in 2023,

sending letters demanding that

Mister B stop selling the

products.

While Mr. B's teams indicated

sales would be discontinued and

some listings were removed,

Russell claims the balls were

still visible on Amazon and

hidden store pages.

Oh.

Cryptic, The company insists

these lingering listings amount

to ongoing infringement.

The lawsuit seeks a court

injunction to block further use

of the mark and demand monetary

damages, including profits Mr.

Beast earned from the sales of

the as well from the sales as

well as attorney fees.

The case highlights the tension

between established sports

brands and celebrity driven

merchandise.

For Russell, it's about

protecting a 20 year old

trademark.

For Beast, it could mean

rethinking how his massive

online brand expands into

physical products.

OK, So what are they actually

upset about the the actual

basketballs?

The beast logo is pretty much

identical.

It's identical.

It's just a color change.

OK.

So it's not, it's not the, you

know, the standard 20%.

So who had the rights first?

Was it was it Spalding or was

Spalding?

Are you sure about that?

Yeah, they said.

Well, they're claiming they did.

Yeah, they've had a a beast ball

a long time ago.

Yeah, I remember as a kid I had

one.

OK, all right, but it looks like

so.

But they sent the thing down.

They did the season, he said.

The season decision thing, I

took it down, but it's still

lingering.

It's still on Amazon and it's

still on other various smaller.

Pages.

OK.

So there's some places where it

wasn't cleaned up 100%.

You said it was on hidden pages.

It does say hidden.

I don't know what hidden means.

I I I assume that it's just

smaller?

Yeah, it means maybe they didn't

delete it, they just moved it

over so that you couldn't find

it easily or something like

that.

Could be until they run through

the balls they made or

something.

No, I just maybe they just

didn't know how to remove it.

I mean, if it's a smaller site,

I don't know.

I just that you know, you never

really know a guy by via via

interviews or youtubes or

whatever the the case may be.

But to be honest, I don't see

Mr. Beast doesn't strike me as a

guy as like, I'll get you

Spalding.

Here's what I'm going to do.

OK, I'll agree to this and then

fucking do some crazy shit where

they he can still sell the

basketballs.

Well, he might just be trying to

move the balls he has left.

He's got so much money, he could

easily just throw them away.

I just, it seems like he tried

to do the right thing and maybe

the organization or the people

that represented.

Sales kind of I'm.

Talking, I'm talking, I don't

care, kind of fumble the ball

the whole process, you know what

I mean?

And because of that, like now

you got this lawsuit.

I don't know, it seems kind of

fishy.

Why does it seem fishy?

It just seemed like he was doing

the right thing and just, it

just wasn't perfect, you know,

Like I go ahead.

I, I the kind of go into what

you're saying, I think what

happened is Spaulding maybe

figured out how much money he

was making off of the name, like

off of the ball, right?

So then they said, OK, well,

we're going to put this lawsuit

against you.

If you don't change it, then we

get money off it because that's

usually how it works, right?

Yeah, I don't know.

Why don't you just do a joint

thing with Spalding if they have

the right to the beast, like,

hey, you know, why don't we

just.

Well, maybe the Beast balls for

Mr. Beast are inferior.

They're not as good as a

Spalding ball.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Maybe Spalding approaches him

and says OK, hey, how about we

do this?

We'll do a Spalding Beast ball

together.

Well, then they got to pay him

money.

Yeah.

So right now they get, they're

supposed to be able to sell it.

Just them, just Spalding that

says the beast on it right?

Do you think that the the

Spalding the Beast ball would

sell more or less with Mr. Beast

actually being a part?

Of it, I have no idea.

I don't know how popular he is.

I don't know how popular he is

in the sports ball area.

He's the number one YouTube in

the world.

Well.

He correct?

Fucking Jock.

Straps, it doesn't matter.

Yeah, I don't.

Well also too, like if he's a

YouTube right, that's going to

be younger generation, so

they're probably going to be

more likely to buy basketballs

and stuff like that.

So, yeah, so it's probably, he

could probably sell a lot.

Maybe they don't like the way he

represents himself, maybe it

goes against whatever Spalding

wants their brand to be.

Who knows.

But they had it first.

I mean, they legally had it.

Yeah.

But I'm just saying why not work

with the guy that would, I mean

that would make the most sense

to me, right?

Share revenue help us explode

the sales of the Beast

Basketball.

Do you want some money or do you

want zero money, right?

Well, they're still they've been

selling it, though.

They're still making money on

the ball.

But I'm willing to bet that they

could 4 or 5X that basketball

sale.

Maybe his balls don't sell much,

I have no idea.

Yeah, and you're angry?

Now I'm not angry.

Because I cut you back off.

I'm not angry.

You cut me off all the time.

Why would I be angry because you

cut me off?

I don't.

Cut you off all the time.

OK, you do want to interrupt

your.

Michael, review the video.

Yeah, when you interrupt me.

See.

OK.

And that's how he's look.

You see that Boots?

I'm not angry at all, Michael.

I can.

See it all in the cameras.

Yeah, he's just so angry.

I'm not angry.

It's all right.

It's OK.

You're allowed to be angry.

OK.

I thought it was just funny how

he said his balls know so much.

Maybe they don't.

I don't know.

I don't know what the sales of

his sports equipment is.

I'm not saying he's not known in

his name.

I mean, he's selling candy bars

for God's sakes.

He could sell anything he wants.

Which are delicious.

Yes.

You had the peanut butter cups,

right?

Yes.

Right, Yeah, they tried to

Squidaldo slip and fall on and

get them.

Right.

He was going to sue the the

Circle K or whatever it was.

Yes, it's one of the best clips

I've.

Ever got?

In my life.

All right.

OK.

So hey, hope it works out for

Mr. Beast and Spaulding.

Me as well.

Together.

Together as one.

Right Taylor Swift live updates

life of a showgirl New Heights

podcast debut breaks the

Internet The pop star also made

an appearance on her boyfriend

Travis Kelsey's podcast

Wednesday last Wednesday.

Travis and his brother Jason

gave fans a hint earlier Monday

morning after posting their

podcast would return from hiatus

early for a very special guest.

Only the guest silhouette was

shown at the time, but fans

immediately guessed Swift.

Taylor detailed the 12 track set

list on the podcast and revealed

song names, including the fate

of Ophelia, followed by

Elizabeth Taylor.

Opalite father figure, eldest

daughter.

Ruin the friendship.

And actually there's lots of

names here.

Yeah.

Is her life about?

A breakup.

Breakup with who?

She breaks up with everybody,

but she has not broken up with

Kelsey Swift appearance on The

New Heights marks the first time

the pop star has given an

interview since since she was

named Time's Person of the Year

in 2023.

At the time, Swift and Travis

had just begun dating, and she

spoke about their budding

romance the first time publicly.

The two first sparked romance

rumors in September 2023 after

Swift appeared on Travis's NFL

games with his family.

Shortly before, Travis had tried

to give Swift a friendship

bracelet with his phone number

on it at one of her concerts.

Nice.

Explosive viewership subscriber

with live YouTube viewers.

The episode surpassed 1.3

million live viewers in the

first hour, nearly doubling the

8800 thousand who tuned in to

Donald Trump Joe Rogan's episode

last year.

These are details for her being

on the show.

Yeah, within five hours of video

had mashed over 6 million views

on YouTube.

The daily subscribers new

heights.

YouTube subscribers base surge

from 2.85 million to 2.94

million, adding roughly 90,000

new subscribers.

In a very short time, the

episode is on track to become

one of the most watched podcast

episodes ever, challenging

existing records.

It became the podcast most

watched episode by a wide

margin, suppressing Kylie

Kelsey's previous high of 8.6

million views under 24 hours.

Is that it?

Yeah, there's some more

information, but we can talk

about it now, OK?

I didn't want, I didn't want to

interrupt you.

OK.

Thank you very much.

So I was.

Just going to sit here patiently

and wait.

Yeah, Look, man, you know they

already have a huge following,

right?

Right.

Talking about the.

The Kelsey Brothers, Kelsey

Brothers.

It's already a good podcast,

already does very well.

Right.

Dude, you throw Swifty on there,

now you got a whole other

demographic that you're tapping

into, Yeah.

It's no different than their

football team that they use for

the football team.

Yeah, well, I mean, I there's

reason to believe that some of

those games were sandbagged by

refs so that the Kansas City

Chiefs could could continue to

move forward throughout the

season.

And allegedly, supposedly, some

of those refs have been fired,

quietly fired.

Yeah.

I don't know, Like, we haven't

really heard much about it.

But it was the refs, that refs,

the three games that were very

questionable.

So at least that's what I heard.

Whatever.

Could be wrong.

But they didn't just do that on

their own.

They didn't just say, hey, you

know what?

We're going to make sure Kansas

City wins this game, right?

Who didn't the Kelsey's, The

refs?

Oh, the refs?

No, no, they were told to

obviously because of.

I think it's because of the

Taylor Swift ratings, right?

Sure.

But that kind of fizzled out,

right?

Did you get tired?

You got tired of seeing her?

Yeah, I think everybody did.

Yeah, I mean, I was.

Not seeing her, just hearing

about the story.

It was like, oh, here's a play

and skybox.

Yes, Taylor, Right.

And we're not here to look at

Taylor.

How many times they're going to

show her just sitting there

smiling?

Though there she is, there she

is there.

She is OK, we can stop watching

now so.

But this is brilliant for the

Kelsey brothers.

Right, well, they came back from

hiatus probably to time this

with the release of her new

album.

Yeah, brilliant.

I mean, they got 100, almost

100,000 new subscribers, right?

That's in like less than an

hour.

That's like 98,000 more than us

in seven years time.

How many of them stick around,

though, hoping she's going to be

on again?

Let's say they're all, what do

they call them?

Swifties, Her fans.

So 90,000 screaming girls and

women, you know, subscribe

because she was on it.

And then three more episodes,

she's not on again.

And they're like.

You think it was just girls that

subscribe?

I liked how he how he did detail

that.

Yeah, you think it was?

You think it was just girls that

subscribe?

No, I said what?

The 90,000 new subscribers were

just her fans, OK?

So you think those were just

girls?

I don't I I assume most of her

fans are females.

I'm sure.

I mean guys like it too.

But you already hear about the

girls.

You don't hear much about guys

being called Swifties.

It's a new generation.

OK, well Boots, are you going to

stop being a subscriber then

when she's not on the show

anymore?

Absolutely.

Dude, let's let's say that it's

2%, let's say 2% sustain out of

that number.

That's still an extra 2000

people.

We need to get Keanu down here

with a wig.

Call him Keanu Swift.

Keanu Swift.

An extra 2000.

People, I just asked you how

many of them you think were

going to stick around.

I didn't say they weren't.

I asked you how many you think

will you call them if she's not

on again?

You call them all females.

I was just saying maybe they're

not all females.

Maybe they're not all females,

but I was saying her fans.

I was saying 90,000 people.

Maybe those were all her fans.

Yeah.

How many of them do you think

are going to stick around when

she's not on again?

I I think more than 2%, I would

say probably 30 or 40% because

the Kelsey brothers are pretty

cool.

Right, minimal one girl.

You know that's the whole point,

right?

Right.

To get people to sustain.

If they're saying something, the

story is saying the 90,000

subscribed because she was on.

Right.

Yeah, I I would.

I'd be willing to bet that.

At least, what is your show

normally about sports and stuff?

Everything.

Everything I.

Mean it's kind of yeah.

I'm not going to be able to talk

at all today, am I?

That was like the third time I

was in mid sentence and I was

just.

You guys are going to, you're

going to love the camera

switchbacks though.

It's perfect.

I don't know, I I honestly think

that at least 10 or 20,000 of

them will hang out.

We'll stick around and listen.

I.

Don't think the number will be

that high.

Yeah.

I think the ones that's that

stay subscribed are the ones

that's just too much trouble.

Just unsubscribe.

I had no idea you're so

pessimistic.

So you're taking the under?

I'm taking the under.

OK, I don't think anybody really

unsubscribes.

You got to go out of your way on

YouTube to.

But you know what?

Well, that's what I said.

I think the ones that stay are

the ones because it's just too

much trouble to unsubscribe.

I unsubscribe from stuff.

What do you subscribe to that

you unsubscribe from on YouTube?

Shows that I thought that I

liked that I watched 3 or 4

episodes and I don't just

because it fills up the feed.

Tell me one.

I don't know the name of them

off top my head, that's why I

don't watch them anymore.

I can't.

Wait for this.

Come on, there's got to be one

that you like.

This tell you what, I'll give

you a list next week.

A whole list of the ones you

unsubscribed.

From you said you wanted just

one, so I will come up with one.

How would you find them if you

unsubscribe from them?

I'll look and see.

How?

What are you going to look at?

Well, you're so argumentative

today.

You're.

Going to look at the ether and

say the nothing and then come

back and say I don't have any

information for.

You, yes.

OK, I'm not argumentative.

You've cut me off 3 times and

now you.

Have Well, you don't notice when

you cut me off.

There you go again, cutting me

off.

I do notice when you cut me off.

No, you don't notice when you

cut me off.

No, I notice all the time when

you cut me off.

Oh well, you both did a minute

ago.

Cut you off?

Yes.

I don't even know what you're

talking about.

See.

Exactly.

I only noticed when you cut me

off.

You just said you noticed when

you cut me off too.

Because I never cut you off.

Yes, you do.

Never.

OK, I'll point it out next time.

Not a single time.

I'll point it out next time.

OK.

Alright, do you want to keep

going?

No.

I would like to move on to the

next.

Story.

That's what I meant.

Do you want to keep going with

the next story?

That would be great alright.

Hurricane Aaron makes history

with a rapid rise in Category 5

Hurricane Aaron rapidly

intensifies Saturday, becoming

the first Category 5 hurricane

of the Atlantic season after

strengthening from a tropical

storm in just 24 hours.

The National Hurricane Center

reported that Aaron's maximum

sustained winds more than

doubled to 160 mph by late

Saturday morning.

Mike Benin, director of the

National Hurricane Center in

Miami, called Aaron a very

powerful hurricane, noting its

winds gained 60 mph in intensity

with approximately 9 hours on

Saturday.

We expect to see Aaron peak here

in intensity relatively soon.

Brennan said in an online

briefing.

Michael Lowry, a hurricane

specialist and storm surge

expert, highlighted the

exceptional pace of Aaron's

strength, calling it incredible

for any time year, let alone

August 16th.

Lowry added that only four other

Category 5 hurricanes have been

recorded in the Atlantic on or

before August 16th.

Aaron is noteworthy for being

one of the few Category 5 storms

so early in the season and for

its rapid intensification.

Mike Lowry, That's nice.

That's that's amazing.

And another news, all the

islands that went across are

gone.

There was like 4 of them.

Do you look at the the category

5?

Do you like when do you start,

when do you start tracking

hurricanes for it to hit us?

When everybody starts, when they

say they're coming this way.

OK, so they've said that this

one's been coming this way for a

little bit.

No, it's never been.

None of the string models have

said it was coming to Florida.

It's always supposed to have

turned and gone north, right?

So at that point, I stopped

watching.

But I did watch the news when it

said it's going to be a 5

because it's unusual.

But then it just.

It's going to die out there

anyways though.

Well, it's going to go up the

coast.

They're evacuating the outer

areas of the North Carolina.

Are they really?

Yeah, it's due to flooding.

That's.

Not good.

OK, well I I already started

putting up my Halloween

decorations.

Well, we're fine here.

Yeah, but there's going to be

more to come.

Listen.

You know, yes.

You don't have to forgot until

you start seeing all the water

gone at Publix.

And stuff.

And the toilet paper.

Yeah, once all the water in the

toilet paper goes away, then we

know we're in trouble.

Right.

Oh shit, there's a hurricane.

Yeah, I had no issues getting

gas today either, so.

Yeah, me either.

So what?

At what point do you worry about

the Hurricanes?

Like, 'cause when I saw it, it

just showed like the cone of

death, but it didn't show that

it was turning.

It just showed it moving West,

but it wasn't remotely close to

us.

Oh all the stories I saw about

this one said it was going to

turn so I didn't pay much

attention to this at all till

they got up to A5 and they were

like woo.

It's a 5, which is unusual but

still doesn't affect us unless

some of the outer bands go

across us.

He was busy unsubscribing.

From Yeah, I was busy

unsubscribing on YouTube.

All the shows perfect.

So where are we at?

What?

It's almost September, right?

Yeah, we're almost out of the

season.

What's Yeah, what do we got two

more months of our.

Season goes still in November.

It goes to November, like

November 1st or something.

I don't remember exactly.

Yeah, we'll pick November 1st.

Why not?

No one's fact.

Checking, I mean we're on the

ES.

So I mean, apparently there was

ABCD that we didn't even didn't

even know about.

Yeah, I guess you got a point.

I hope that we have nothing.

Because your Halloween record.

We're due.

We're due for one.

I mean, it's been a long time.

What are you talking about?

We got one last year.

Yeah, but nothing terribly bad,

no excessive damage.

Stuff.

What are you talking about?

We still got one.

I feel like there was one in

Deltona yesterday.

We got one and then we had one

the year before.

We've had one every year.

What they're saying, they're

saying we're due for a big one.

We're due for a big one.

Yes, that's just what they say.

I don't know what it means.

Why don't they throw ice cubes

off the coast of Africa or

something?

Seal the fucking water out.

This is ridiculous.

Yeah, they're going to thin the

herd.

You.

Know what I mean?

How do we solve this?

I don't understand it.

Why are we still dealing?

With this crap, with hurricanes,

yeah, it's Mother Nature.

I mean, what do you we can't

control hurricane?

Mother Nature's trees too.

We control those all the time.

Cut those down.

That same thing trees don't.

Trees don't move.

They don't not like a hurricane.

So you know, the tree in my yard

has probably been there for the

40 years it didn't just walk in.

So you don't think we can shut

down a hurricane?

I don't think we can, no.

What do you think?

We would if we could.

No, no.

What are you saying?

Because it's it stimulates the

economy.

Oh, conspiracy theory.

You could shut down a hurricane.

Yeah, yeah.

How do you guys?

You guys have seen the whole

twister moving early?

No, come on guys, the new one.

No, the old one.

How do you shut it down?

They put like a chemical, like

chemicals in the middle of it.

Yeah, dry ice.

I don't know if it's DRY.

Ice Sprinkle the clouds with dry

ice.

They put chemicals in the middle

of it.

Yeah, they put like a whole

thing in it broke.

Apart and they get rid of it.

You just spit on the microphone

again.

Really, that's the thing.

That's what they did.

I.

Don't know if I believe you,

that doesn't sound accurate.

Make another shirt.

It's accurate.

Make another shirt.

It's accurate.

OK, all right.

Hurricane Aaron remains a

Category 4 storm forecast to

bring life threatening surf and

RIP currents across the US East

Coast this week.

Aaron is located about 105 miles

north of Grand Turks Island with

maximum sustained winds of 130

mph moving northwest at 13 mph

as of Monday morning.

Aaron's forecast to pass east of

the southeastern Bahamas on

Monday and move between Bermuda

and the East Coast of the US by

the middle of the week.

Sorry.

OK, Aaron.

Got it.

That was just the current update

because the story I had was from

Saturday.

OK, got it.

Before you get in the news, you

want me to talk about one of the

social media posts or are we

done?

I have one more news story, OK?

Alright, go ahead.

A newly unveiled statue of Tom

Brady at Gillette Stadium has

sparked a wave of debate among

Patriot fans, with the reactions

ranging from praise to

disappointment.

The 12 foot statue, which the

New England Patriots unveiled a

week ago this past Friday,

captures a legendary quarterback

and a stoic post victory pose

and was intended as a tribute to

his historic career.

However, after being revealed to

the public, it has left some

Boston fans divided.

In a recent poll by boston.com,

1334 respondents weighed in on

the statue, with options running

the gamut.

One of those oh.

Of those, 521 readers rated the

statue as awful, 476 felt it was

OK, and 337 gave it

enthusiastic.

I love it.

For some fans, the statues

minimalist design and subdued

pose resonate deeply.

It captures his emotions after

wins.

Stoic, triumphant.

But on to the next, said Andy

from Charleston Supporters.

Charlestown.

Is that Charleston?

Charlestown.

Supporters of the statue argue

that the pose perfectly reflects

Brady's personality, focused,

tumbled and consistently looking

toward the next challenge.

However, not everyone agrees

with the interpretation.

Many readers expressed

disappointment that statue

lacked excitement or energy.

There were many other poses they

could have used.

I think this one was boring,

said Tom from Worcester.

While the statues Worster.

Is that how you say Worster?

Well, the statue's intentions

were clearly to honor Brady's

legacy as one of the greatest

quarterbacks of all time.

The execution has left many

questioning whether it truly

captures the spirit of his

achievements.

So what you pretty much told me

is that there's 527 people there

that are completely fucking

miserable and no matter what

happens in their life, they're

going to be negative.

I mean.

Yeah, out of the what?

The 1300 that they asked, 500 of

them didn't like it at all.

Yeah, I mean, dude, Bostonians,

bro, they're just, some of them

are just out of control so bad.

Yeah.

Have you seen Dwyane Wade's

statue?

Yeah, looks nothing like.

Did we talk about that on the

show before?

Yeah, have you seen Dwyane

Dwyane?

If you're a fan of Dwyane Wade,

if you're Dwyane Wade himself,

if you're a family member of

Dwyane Wade, you have every

right to be upset about this

statue.

It looks like a mutant is in

front of the American Airlines

Arena or whatever it's called

now, right?

A complete mutant.

At least Tom Brady's is clean.

It looks nice.

I thought it looked nice in what

I saw.

That's a big.

Win.

It looked like Tom Brady.

They just don't like the pose.

They're just angry people, you

know, they're paying too much in

taxes.

They're not allowed to smoke up

there.

You know, it's just, it's

ridiculous.

And who?

Who has to?

Who gets lashed out at?

Tom.

Tom.

They take it out on Tom.

Are they taking it out on Tom?

On a statue.

Terrific Tom statue.

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

They're putting it in the

lighthouse.

Does that mean anything to you?

The lighthouse.

What they say in the base of the

lighthouse.

Oh yeah, yeah, at the stadium.

Oh yeah, I guess.

OK.

So I guess it's not in its

permanent location.

Oh, 'cause right now it's

probably out front.

Yeah, it's out front.

We're going to put it in the

lighthouse.

Is that where everybody?

Does everybody go through the

lighthouse?

No.

Is this?

Like a Walt Disney thing.

It's a part of a museum or

something.

Yeah, it's like the by the their

Hall of Fame or whatever and

then they have their own store

and stuff, so.

Oh, OK.

But I, you know, you'd think

that there'd be I, I honestly

think that that's got to be

bullshit.

There's they went out of their

way to find people that were

just, that are just, I mean, I

guess if you have the time to

respond to the newspaper voting

thing, you're probably a

miserable person regardless,

Right?

Yeah, at least 70% of you.

I hate it, you know?

Why do you hate it?

They could have done something

different.

I really wanted to see him.

Could have been better.

You know, they could have had

him jumping over that one guy

backwards doing the split like

that was Saquan Barkley, you

know?

Just give him some time, they'll

they'll like it.

Remember what happened when Tom

first came in for Bledsoe?

Nobody liked Tom.

Yeah, no kidding. 7 Super Bowls

rings later.

Just give it some time when they

removed the Bledsoe statue in

the White House and put Tom

first, then they'll like it.

The guy's got six rings, right?

New England has six rings.

Right, it's.

Ridiculous.

OK.

Do you have anything to add to

that?

No, no.

OK.

All right.

All right, do we have a social

media minute or did we decide

not?

I do have one social media

Minute that's not related to the

one we were talking about.

OK, go ahead then.

So Jack's my oldest son.

He had a couple of buddies that

have been on this baseball team

forever.

And they were in the World

Series this year.

This season they were they were

in last year and won at the 11 U

League and they were in again at

12 U and they played against

Japan.

And I gotta tell you, the I

think it's the Cal Ripken, Babe

Ruth League should absolutely be

embarrassed as to how they

handled this situation.

They had a person in the stands

blowing a horn and every time

that their team went up.

Usually those guys get removed.

Yeah, there was like two or

three innings where it was not

addressed at all.

It was absolutely horrendous,

man.

I don't understand how an

organization, if this is the

top, this is the game, the game

of all games.

As soon as somebody blows a

horn, somebody should have

instantly nipped that in the

bud, right?

Yeah, So, you know, I'm watching

these kids and I'm hearing this

horn, and I'm getting irate.

I'm like, this is ridiculous.

How is no one controlling it?

And then when the game was

finally blown out of the water,

the horn stopped.

Somebody said, hey, you know,

you should probably stop that.

Was oh, you went to the game.

No, I watched it.

It was in Missouri.

So you could hear the air horn

on the TV.

Dude, it was so bad and like so

the person would play the horn

on the other team when they

would play, but they wouldn't do

it when they were hitting, but

they did it intentionally

against every time that Altamont

was hitting.

If I mean, that's ridiculous.

How would you feel about that if

you went, if you spent these

kids have been up there for

three or four weeks at this

point.

Imagine you're spending three

weeks or three to four weeks in

a hotel with your kid going

through this tournament, making

it all the way to the end.

And then all of a sudden you

have a person interrupting when

your kids are hitting.

I was.

Trying to disrupt the kids

concentration type of yeah,

yeah, no, it's terrible.

How would you be, how are you OK

with that as an organization?

Man, I don't, I don't know.

Was it somebody from Japan?

You said they were playing in

Japan.

They should have stopped it,

you'd think, right?

That's it.

Who you're going to give me?

Should have stopped it.

How about you?

That's it.

I think it's completely

horrible.

I mean, literally is based off

of sportsmanship.

I mean, really sportsmanship,

right?

That's their number one rule.

That's that's that definitely

doesn't fit the the word there.

Sportsmanship.

In the previous game they got

they got mad about Altamont

being too rowdy in the dugout.

Oh, so they complained about?

When they played against

Missouri, ironically enough for

the US Championship, they got

mad about the Altamont players

being too rowdy, but meanwhile

internationally this fucking

person got to do whatever they

wanted.

Right.

Yeah, it, I mean, whoever, I

don't know who governs that

other than the league, but like

whoever's at the game that's

supposed to stop that, they

should have definitely been

doing their job.

You.

Would think there would be

somebody, at least from the

stadium that would have stopped

it.

Well, you know what the sad part

is that there are plenty of

other organizations that you can

do that have other series of

that magnitude.

Yeah, kids are in baseball.

I highly recommend you putting

them in that one and not in this

one because that was absolutely

absurd, right?

Yeah, Terrible.

And now I have my clip for

later.

All right, boots.

Trending news boots.

There's a piece of paper over

there on your desk.

Very excited about this.

Maybe this will turn Palmer's.

I don't want to read this, This

will.

Did you?

Already read it this will.

Turn read it.

I read the top line.

Read it.

Turn Palmer's attitude around.

Of course it will.

Make him happy.

What are you focused on?

On Palmer, because everybody

wants to see his reaction to the

headline here.

Good.

Thousands of wieners spill

across busy highway wieners,

wieners and more wieners.

Crew mustered up the coverage.

The courage to deal with

thousands of runaway wieners

with a Fire Chief saying I can

tell you personally, wieners are

very slippery.

I did not know that, but now I

know because I've been standing

in nothing but wieners all

morning.

A truckload of wieners packed

tight with even more wieners

spilled across a busy

Pennsylvania Rd.

The Wiener truck carrying tons

of steaming hot wieners suffered

mechanical problems.

The Wiener packed trailer

scraped along a concrete

divider, ripping wide open and

scattering wieners in every

direction.

Highways Hwy. crews were

immediately knee deep in

wieners.

They mustered up the courage to

start the morning Wiener

cleanup.

Shrewsbury Fire Company Chief

Brad Deberman didn't mince words

once.

Those wieners lead the Wiener

truck and hit the Wiener Rd.

Those wieners are garbage, hot

garbage and there are still too

many warm wieners for everyone

to handle A front end.

A front end loader was called in

to scoot massive piles of busted

wieners.

The the loader dumped the

rolling, sliding, splitting

wieners into a Wiener filled

dump truck, creating amount of

broken, bruised, battered

wieners.

Drivers stuck in traffic

reported seeing waves of wieners

stretching for blocks.

Some said the Wiener spill

spelled like a giant roadside

cookout gone terribly wrong.

Others said it looked like a

Wiener apocalypse.

The Wiener incident will likely

go down in local history as the

greatest Wiener spill of

Pennsylvania.

Thousands of wieners lost,

thousands of wieners mourned,

and a whole lot of wieners that

never made it to a bun.

Reminds me of a trip to Germany

for the club's opening night

where I also saw nothing but

walls of wieners, streets of

wieners and crowd cheering for

more wieners.

That takes you right back to

Germany, huh?

Absolutely not.

That's a very sad story, buddy.

That was a terrible thrill by

the.

Way it was.

Terrible that all those wieners

are everywhere now.

Are you upset about the wieners?

I mean, that's a lot of wieners.

A lot of wieners.

I'm not engaging.

Are you upset that you weren't

there for the wieners?

And that you can't consume the

wieners.

Not engaging.

You don't, so you don't want to

eat the wieners.

I'm not engaging.

You're not a Wiener guy.

I'm just here so I won't get

fined.

Don't get fined.

That's Marshawn Lynch, Yeah.

OK.

All right.

On the cigar news, Toro Fuente

Marifel in distribution

agreement and yeah Toro Fuentes

International Distribution is

going in house saying that the

long standing distribution

relationship between the company

and Marifel has come to an end.

Marifel served as the companies

international distributor for

markets other than the US and

the Dominican Republic.

Arturo Fuente has local

distributors in various

countries.

For example, COP Tobacco is is a

distributor in Germany and

Business Bay Global is the

distributor in Saudi Arabia.

But those entities had to

purchase Fuente cigars through

Arturo Fuente International,

which was run by the Marifels.

Now, those orders will be placed

through Fuente Marketing

Limited.

Jose Blanco will serve as the

lead point of contact, though

there will also be a team in the

Dominican Republic that will

assist in fulfillment and a

letter sent to international

clients.

Carlos Carlito Fuente Junior

indicated that the Marifel's

have existing inventory and that

clients could choose to place

orders through Marifel.

Fuente Junior's letter said that

the the distribution

relationship had ended but made

no mention of the other

relationships that the two

families have, most notably

Cameroon wrappers.

Merrifield Family is the

dominant supplier of Cameroon

tobaccos and no company is known

more than a Toro Fuente for

using Cameroon wrappers.

The company uses Cameroon

wrappers in a Sotoro, Fuente,

Doncarlo Semiway lines as well

as other brands it produces for

Ashton and JC Newman.

Today's news has no bearing on

the American market.

At Toro, Fuente and JC Newman

have a joint sales team that

sell both companies products.

This is very interesting.

Yeah, I have questions.

OK.

What are your questions?

So if it stops the distribution,

is it going to affect the supply

of the wrapper?

That's a great question and I

got to be honest, I where you're

going to hold back all of this

and talk about it on the Patreon

because this is all there's a

lot to cover here.

So you have information.

I don't have information.

I have my own point of view, and

normally my point of view is

accurate.

I mean, it could be inaccurate,

but what do you got to say?

I was going to ask what he's if

you had some sort of insider.

Information.

No, I did.

I did try and get some Intel,

but and I'll give you more

information about that on the

Patreon.

And again, if you like

supporting us and you like

getting more news and more

information about the cigar

industry, check out our Patreon.

Go to patreon.com and look at a

Cigar hustler's podcast.

Yeah, for all you Fuente people

out there, this is probably

something you definitely want

to.

Listen to for for all you cigar

people in general.

I mean, the the ask anybody

who's a Patreon supporter,

they'll tell you that the

Patreon blows this show out of

the water and.

Everybody says it's the better

of the two shows.

And I think this is a damn good

show.

So, I mean, look, Palmer's

practically crying today.

You.

Know 5% of the shows of the

world.

Yeah, exactly.

So that's this one and the other

one's better.

Yeah, exactly.

OK so we're moving on.

Yep, Cigars International

expanding to Orlando and

Kentucky later this year.

Cigars International is planning

on opening two stores, one just

South of Cincinnati and the

other near Universal Studios in

Orlando.

Yes.

The Orlando store we located at

4158 Conroy Rd. about 2.5 miles

east of Universal Studios.

Unlike most Cigar International

stores, the name given to the

company's physical store.

It will be an existing building,

so the building's already there.

Oh, really?

And not ground up construction.

In this case, the building was

previously a sports bar.

Oh wow.

So it must.

It must be close to what they

use.

Have you ever been in one?

Yeah, I think we went to one in

Tampa.

Yeah, you could say it's 3/4

bar, 1/4 cigars, right?

I mean, that's smart if the

location will work, if you can

fit it, you know, right?

I'm excited about that.

I can't wait to see how that

works in Orlando.

Yes, it should be very nice.

You know, because the reality is

that some people do their best

to slow progress in this

industry.

And you know what?

Unfortunately, a bigger dog is

going to eat you.

So yeah.

'Cause their pockets are really

deep.

We look forward to seeing CI in

Orlando.

I'm excited and they're in a

great location down by

Universal.

There really isn't any

competition in that area.

So I think that they're going to

do great there, you know?

It's a 9000 square foot store

and a full bar.

Large walk in humidor and

smoking offer both inside and

outside.

Nice.

It's by Universal like on

Universal.

Property.

No, no, it's on Conroy, 2 and 2

1/2 miles away.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's kind of in like, like

a sand lake.

Doctor Phillips area.

Oh.

Yeah, got it.

This will mark the company's

fourth store in Florida, though

the first in the Orlando area.

You know, I think that there are

other opportunities for other

retailers to be open there.

And two, it's unfortunate for

them that that never occurred.

So now, now you get the biggest

guy possible that comes in and

and starts to take that

opportunity.

So it's going to be great.

It's going to be great.

Competition is a good thing,

yes.

Are you excited?

Palmer, I'm looking forward to

it.

Yeah.

I mean, there's nothing really

friendly for us over that

direction.

Not even close.

Yeah, no.

Now we can go to a place we

can't get trespassed.

Allegedly, you know, but.

We could eventually.

But not.

That's true, but not.

Very likely, but not out of the

gate.

Not very likely.

Yeah, right.

OK.

When the two new stores open,

the company will have 15

locations in Florida or 15

locations actually Jacksonville.

We don't need to read all these.

It's not 15 locations in.

Florida.

No, No 15, Yeah, yeah.

It looks like there's a lot of

them in Pennsylvania.

Couple in oh, a lot of them in a

lot of Texas.

Yeah, there's only like 2 in

Florida, right?

I think Kentucky's kind of

tough.

Yeah, 2, There's only two

currently in Florida.

No 3 Jacksonville is open now.

Does it say where the one in

Kentucky is located?

No, no, where it's going to be.

It's going to be near

Cincinnati, so somewhere on the

border I'm guessing.

Near Cincinnati.

Is that is that close to the

race tracks?

I don't know.

I'm curious as to how close it

is to Jeff Mutate's spot.

I don't know because he's in

Jeffersonville, IN, which is

like right across the bridge

from Kentucky.

Right.

Yeah, he's running.

Is that the bottom of Kentucky

or top?

Top.

DAX says top.

Top Oh, they scrapped the

location in Saint Louis.

They were talking about that

last year.

I believe Dak.

So, yeah, OK.

All right, moving on.

Right Premium Premium Cigar

Association names Ricardo

Carrion Director of

International Affairs and

Education The Premium Cigar

Association has announced that

it has named Ricardo as its new

director of international

affairs and education.

He joins the PCA after spending

several months with Casa Turrent

when he served as the company's

head of business development.

Prior to joining Casa Turrent,

he was the COO of Tor Imports in

Great Britain and the CEO of

Jestina in Spain.

Before joining Cigar Industry,

he served as diplomatic role as

Nicaraguan's Deputy Ambassador

to the United Kingdom, Ireland

and Iceland, as well as the

official representative to the

United States Maritime

Organization and international

organizations in the coffee,

sugar and cocoa sectors.

He has also LED content strategy

and operations across various

geographies for TripAdvisor and

William Hill.

Not familiar with William Hill,

is that a travel thing?

I'm guessing no I do.

He's also Co founder of the

Cigar Academy and educational

venture that he launched with

the Thomas Greeson in March

2024.

The Cigar Academy's mission is

to safeguard, nurture and

disseminate the rich artisanal

heritage and traditional

knowledge of cigar making by way

of educational courses and

certifications for consumers,

retailers and those working in

the cigar industry.

Ricardo is a catalyst who brings

a ton of energy and passion to

any project, said Joshua

Hiberski, executive director of

the PCA and a press release.

His expertise will allow the PCA

to refine existing projects and

help service our growing

membership ranks.

He'll be working in a versatile

role to help grow membership

outside of the United States,

create programs for US retailers

and the Caribbean Basin, and

develop universal education

programs for all members

categories.

This guy seems super

overqualified.

Super overqualified, yeah.

What's the?

Point of.

That that was what I was talking

about, Yeah.

What's what's the point in this

guy's position?

Yeah, I don't understand it.

Something with education.

Cigar education, yeah.

I don't know.

Yeah, he started the Cigar

Academy.

What is that?

I think they teach you how to

roll cigars.

We've we, we talked about that

months ago when it came out.

It was a school that you could

go to in a third world country

if you want to learn how to roll

cigars.

Is that what that was?

Yeah.

And now he's now he's.

What are we doing?

We're Cigar.

Education.

What are we?

We're paying this guy to be in

charge of cigar.

Cigar Education.

Is is cigar?

And help grow membership outside

the United States isn't in a

United States organization.

It's dark cigar.

Well, it's the Premium Cigar

Association.

It's not PCAA of America.

I mean, they're based in

Washington.

Yeah, they do fight for our

rights in the US.

And so we can wear anything we

want.

Do you think he was just friends

with somebody and then just kind

of gave him a build him a job?

I don't know, It does look, it

says.

The new role will also see him

heavily involved in a new

initiative at the PCA is

launching with the University of

South Florida and the World

Cigar Show in Dubai.

He served as chair of the PCH

Education Subcommittee and has

already begun leading projects

across USA and international,

including training programs,

cultural exchange efforts and

through leadership as a

volunteer for the organization.

I have no idea what this guy's

doing.

I don't fully understand why

this has happened.

Well, I mean, it sounded like

he's trying to gain membership,

right?

That was 1 and that's it.

That's all I heard.

How is he gaining membership?

That's what it said in the

reading, said something about

gaining membership.

Yeah, but OK, like I'm trying to

buy a Ferrari, you know what I

mean?

Like that makes no sense.

What?

What's his job pay?

Sounds like a lot.

It does.

It sounds like he he needs to be

paid a lot.

Yeah.

CEO of one, I mean the we don't

know what the companies are, but

CEO of one company, COO of

another company, some type of

cultural attache to Iceland.

It's got to be 6 figures, you

would think.

Yeah, and it's not like slightly

6 figures.

Right.

What do you think, Joshua

Waberski, and what do you think

we're paying him?

I don't know.

Not enough, I don't think.

More than TripAdvisor, probably.

I mean, if we saw his close

recently at the last.

Event, that's true.

It's kind of questionable.

So I don't think he gets paid

enough.

We couldn't hold Scott Pierce

for the pay, so he.

Left because of pay.

Right.

So I don't think that.

Could we ask Scott Pierce what

the pay is?

Hey, Josh, how much you make?

We tried somewhere between.

We did right.

We asked Scott Pierce.

He wouldn't say.

He wouldn't say no, but he said

that it's more at CAA.

Yeah, he did say that.

Wow, this is this is the PCA and

there's so much secrecy on the

pay.

Very cryptic.

Well, I mean, their budget has

to be available somewhere.

No, it's a nonprofit

organization.

They don't have to disclose.

That's how they get around.

That's how, that's how the NFL

operated forever.

Oh, we're nonprofit until they

had no choice but to be profit,

right.

And then as a as a publicly, I

don't know, something they had

to disclose exactly how much

money Roger Goodell makes.

PCA also has now they're selling

T-shirts and things.

Are they?

They're not nearly as good as

the ones on chapter pod.com,

yeah.

They're biting off of us, not.

Nearly as good.

Yeah, it's ridiculous they don't

have.

What are we doing with this guy?

They don't have Alcatraz in New

York.

Yeah, obviously.

You know.

Or BDP shirt.

No.

Yeah, ridiculous.

Or the coffee thing.

Yeah, I wonder, I'm curious as

to how much is this guy getting

paid right.

And what the hell is he actually

doing?

Because it sounds like he's not

doing anything, but he's

collecting the.

Paper.

There's a lot of stuff he's

supposed to be doing, but all of

it adds up to nothing.

Yeah, right.

We see a lot of that in the

cigar industry.

A lot of people say I will, you

know, I can do these things and

like, but what are right?

But what are those things?

I.

Have a farm?

I show you.

Not the road.

I have a farm.

Do you have a farm?

Well, yes, I do.

Yes, I have a farm.

I have a.

Farm.

You should look into my eyes.

I have farm.

I have farm.

This is not the Droid you're

looking for.

In the picture of this guy, he's

a handsome European looking dude

walking down the street in a

black suit with a white shirt,

all sorts of stuff going on

behind him.

That's all you need.

Can't wait to see the evolution

of PCA.

You should start coming in

carrying a briefcase, like

looking like you're running with

your.

Did we ever hear about this guy

again?

Or now this is the announcement.

He's there, and then he's going

to.

Collect the money for a year.

They're going to go, man, we

spent a lot of money on this guy

that did nothing.

And then you're going to get a

clipping and then you're going

to read it and say this guy got

fucked, he's back at

TripAdvisor.

You think?

You think it's only a year?

No, wait, man.

PCA.

He'll make at least the PCA next

year.

He'll walk around and talk to

the third world country booths.

This.

Is at least three or four years.

Takes a while to take.

Half $1,000,000.

Yeah, easy, easy.

This guy's got a Yeah, he's got

a How come we didn't get this

job?

We we weren't no, no, you were

not cultural attache to Ireland

or.

Whatever the cigar education,

don't smoke that shit.

That's terrible.

That's terrible.

Don't smoke that.

That'd be better off than what

he's doing, right?

He's first generation

international immigrant.

What is the travel button?

What the?

Fuck that means.

Well, because you're.

You're your first, your dad.

Was from Poland, right?

Your first generation immigrant.

Yeah, see.

See, I made it sound good for

me.

So that way, yeah.

So that way you can get the job.

Oh yeah, that's great.

Yeah, I'm first.

What do you call it?

1st generation immigrant.

International, International.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Mean now they're doing all these

meet and greets, so they're

there's this blonde lady and

Joshua and somebody else that's

traveling all around visiting

all these shops and stuff.

Well, that's good.

They sound like cigar.

What are they doing when they're

there?

Looks like they're just wearing

clothes they slept in and, you

know, hanging out and smoking

cigars.

Listen you Josh is going to wear

what he wants to wear if he

wants, you know, if he wants to

do the derelict edition from

Zoolander then.

Derelict.

There's the the blonde lady had

a lovely outfit on.

She looked, she looked fine.

Yeah, I don't know what to tell

you, buddy, man.

I don't know, man.

This is, I'm kind of curious

about this whole Emirates thing,

like what are we, what are we

doing there?

Why are we?

We're locking in 'cause that's

the Dubai thing.

Yeah, that's where the the money

is.

That's where the money is now.

Well.

There's a cigar thing that goes

on.

Over there, yeah, that's new.

So is PCA not involved in that?

No, no.

Well, we don't have a piece of

it, I don't think, but we go to

it.

Apparently we we are involved

and that's what this guy's going

to do.

So it's to get more money to pay

him.

Pretty much.

Well, do they do?

They don't give us money to be

involved in that.

I'm sure we have to pay to be in

it.

I have no idea well how they

have the money.

Why would that take hours?

We don't have it.

First of all.

We have, well, we have money.

PCA does it anyways.

They just hired this dude.

So I mean, let's say that's

$600,000.

Let's say it's 300.

Thousand.

Yeah, he's probably like that.

He's probably 2. 50 So still,

they had to have that money, and

if he's making three, Joshua's

got to be making 6.

No.

Way you don't think he's making

more?

No dude, 600,000 a year so.

This guy is the International,

whatever he is.

Yeah.

You think he's higher up the

food chain than Josh would?

I'm willing to bet this.

I don't.

I don't want to know if I'd

consider him higher up the food

chain, but if I were betting

man, I bet you he gets paid more

than Josh.

Oh, you think they had to bump

his pay to get him?

He gets paid more than Josh.

Yeah, sweeten the deal a little.

Bit he worked for TripAdvisor.

Yeah, I don't know if it's a

high paying thing.

TripAdvisor, I don't understand.

I mean, I know what it is, but

you know.

Five stars 4.5 right he.

Gives, you know, he gives the

ratings in the books, Yeah.

It's amazing.

With his black suit.

This place tastes very good.

Very good coffee if I get 5

stars.

I have a great pea coat.

No, no, it was like a black

suit, not a pea coat.

It was a suit.

It was a very hot where he was,

I'm sure.

Gucci.

Yes, very, very good.

Well, yeah, OK, so hey, listen.

What?

Are we doing with all the money?

I don't know what we're doing,

these people.

Hey, we're working really hard

and audible.

Wait, what happened?

How about this?

We're gonna create our own

organization and we're gonna

charge half the money PCA

charges, and everybody just get

the money to us.

And we're gonna do a I tried

doing that one year.

I forget what we were gonna call

it.

We were starting our own org.

Yeah, we were.

Let's just call it AAA cigars.

Yeah, that's like everybody.

That's fine.

AAA cigars.

Cigars.

That way we get listed first.

Right.

Right.

We're the association,

Association of Americans.

American AAC Association of

American Cigars, right?

We could do a convention.

Sure, why not?

We'll have a convention.

They got the painting in it.

We got the big Mick.

And we're going to let all the

media in for free.

Early.

Early, early.

Early coupe for free.

Yep, John Mctavish, we'll get in

without any issues, right?

Yeah, we'll vote Coupe King of

Media.

Can't Yeah, we'll we'll award

him every.

Every year he gets a trophy,

yeah.

Oh yes, you're going to give him

like a baseball trophy.

Yeah, he likes trophy.

He would love that.

He likes trophies.

He'll love that.

I love that a little pitcher 1

he likes those.

Right, like Davis can be

international media or

something.

Yeah, international media king.

Yeah, he is Canada, Yeah.

Yeah.

We'll give fish stick.

We'll give him fish sticks.

Yeah, we give fish like nothing

until he gives us a review

that's somewhat positive.

I love Aaron but God damn he's

ruthless.

I can't follow their rating

schedule.

Thing I can't follow our rating

scale.

I mean, Gavin has been sent and

sending me texts.

He's like, for love of God, you

just have to divide by three.

I don't I don't understand what

the problem is and he's like,

I'm like, yeah, you're right.

I don't know why we mess that up

every time on the Patreon button

so.

Maybe half will finally get

their rating scale fixed.

No, their their grading scale's

fine.

They're fine.

Yeah, they're fine.

Yeah, I love their 82.

It's a nice warm 82.

So yeah.

All right, Martin, the batters

are dying on the iPad.

We need to keep going.

OK, Martin Coves, the Prodigal

son, heads the stores.

The prodigal son, The new cigar

line from Martin Cove, the actor

who played John Crease in The

Karate Kid and Cobra Kai.

Oh good, it's honest way to

storage.

It's being released in a 6 by 52

Toro vitola with an undisclosed

blend, which were produced at

Tabacolera.

Thomas, Dominican.

Dominican.

Chico Rivia Chico Rivas factory

in Tambor, Dominican.

Republic.

Oh, there we go.

Which is also produced cigars

for Sanjay Patel.

The MSRP is set at $14.00 per

cigar.

Great price for a cigar and $280

for a 20 count box.

These cigars share a name with

the upcoming TV series and four

part comic book series developed

by Cove.

Oh I didn't know he came out

with ATV show.

I guess he has to.

They killed him on the other

show.

Did he die?

He died.

He blew up on a boat.

Ralph.

Is that Ralph?

Who is this?

John Crease.

This is the the.

Cobra Kai guy?

Yeah, sweep the leg.

Didn't he bite the a person?

Allegedly I.

Don't know recently.

Like in real life.

Was that John Crease?

That's the older guy, right?

Or is that the younger guy?

That's the guy in charge of

Cobra Kai originally.

They're all older.

From the movie.

OK, the older guy, I got to look

this up.

I think it's the right guy.

Well, he is old, but I don't.

What do you say?

Cobra Kai the movie?

That's a.

Because there was, there was two

of them.

No the.

This is the guy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's Johnny.

He got in trouble.

I think he bit, he built bit an

actor or something.

The TV show.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're at.

She's like, there was a video

footage of it and like you or

like you don't get to just bite

me or something.

Yeah.

You make that part of the clip.

Yeah, that'll be amazing.

The line was developed by Cove

and Paul Desalvo of La Casa

Grande Cigars and Sanji Patel of

Sanji Smoke Shop in the SP1014

brand of cigars.

De Salvo has also worked with

actors Chazz Momentary on his A

Bronx Tail line of cigars.

Cigars are being launched at 3

retailers, La Casa Grande Cigars

in the Bronx, Sanji Smoke Shop

in Bloomfield, NJ, and Smoke

Inn, which is multiple occasions

in Florida.

Oh, we've got in on that one.

Interesting.

A press release said that the

company hopes to expand

production and availability,

which it would make the cigars

more widely available by fall of

2025 or early 2026.

This is fall of 2020.

Five OK, pretty much thoughts on

this cigar You think it's going

to work I.

Mean it's been sitting for a

year at least 'cause they said a

year ago as being released.

Did they?

They they announced it later

like a year ago or something.

OK.

So do you think you were still

in the other room?

I don't know.

I know celebrity cigars are kind

of popular right now, but it

would have been better if he

released it during the season he

didn't die or was still alive.

What celebrity cigar has been

popular that came out and

sustained?

Well, not only one, not the.

Well, yeah, only one.

Not to sustain, but there are.

I meant there have been a lot of

them lately.

What?

So they seem to do good at the

beginning and then you never

hear.

From them, which one?

What other ones come out

recently?

Well, the Mike Tyson's still

collecting dust.

Yeah, yeah, there was the Mike

Tyson.

OK.

That was April of last year.

It was Irish.

Oh yeah, It wasn't this year's

show.

It was last year's show.

It was the Irish guy.

Conor McGregor, also Dominican

stick.

I was just asked about his stick

yesterday and I was like no.

It's OK, but I don't I haven't

seen a lot of people like

posting it.

I smoked one that was good and

then I smoked three that were

bad.

Oh, inconsistent.

The baseball players coming out

with one Mexican, Mexican

Olympic guy.

Not really a celebrity.

Well, not John crease level I

guess, but.

Don't really know who he is.

The poppy.

Poppy's old Chazz Palmeteri few

years now.

Thought he just came out with

another one.

But he's been doing it for a few

years.

Oh, is that what it is?

Yeah.

Guy Fieri?

Ray Lewis.

That was one of the first ones.

Does Ray Lewis still make that

cigar?

Karl Malone.

Carmelon's been doing it for

years.

Is this cigar still with Lara?

Carmelon.

Yes, yeah.

So not.

I mean, it's not like the

celebrities are flooding in to

do cigar things.

Ike Taylor.

He's been doing it for a few

years.

Didn't some rapper just come up

with a cigar?

I.

Don't know I.

Don't remember him.

I don't know whether I wouldn't

know where he was anyway.

You cover the news.

I just listened.

To the news it was I only have

so much room.

I don't store all this stuff.

Oh, sorry.

OK, Yeah, well, wish you the

best, John Crease.

I don't know.

It's going to be an uphill

battle.

First of all, nobody knows John

Crease.

I mean, the good thing is he did

partner with Abe.

Abe will help the exposure,

right?

Yeah, this is the other guy from

the movie.

Well, they're probably mostly

talking about it's a Western.

The new shows are Western.

Oh, this is the guy from the

Western that you've.

Never seen yeah the new TV show

if he's.

Going to bite any other actors.

Please be in a Vander.

Maybe.

OK.

Hey, you ready for the biggest

game show in the cigar industry

currently?

Yeah, it's time for What's the

Score.

First cigar today is reviewed by

Charlie Minato.

It's a Casa Corillio cigar.

Dominican Republic, limited

edition, The Perez Corillio

Pledge of Allegiance rocket.

Oh, the rocket.

OK, Boots, you want me to go

first?

You want to go first.

Perfect.

You go first.

You.

Want me to go first?

OK, I'm going to go 85 out of

the gate.

Yeah, that just totally messed

you up, didn't it?

We'll go 82 since it's warm. 82.

Since it's warm.

Yeah, that's what you said

earlier.

Oh Pledge of Allegiance rocket

Country of origin Dominican

Republic factory Casa Carrillo

rapper USA Connecticut Broadly

binder Ecuadorian Habano filler

Nicaragua Excondaga Halapa USA

Connecticut Havana seed

Pennsylvania P41 says 6 3/8 by 5

eights.

It's round.

MSRP is $30.

It was released in June of 2025.

Can you read the size?

Again, 6 and 3/8 by 5/8.

Yeah, I will. 6 3/8 by 58 you

mean?

Six and three 8 inches.

Ring gauge is 58.

OK, I was.

Like Dang, that's a big cigar.

Yeah, big.

That's a huge.

Bitch.

Number of cigars smoke for the

review 3.

That is a big cigar.

I'm gonna stick 85.

Charlie smoke this.

Yeah, he's very angry.

Must stick 82.

OK, the first right thing he's

done so far.

So wait, he's at 82 now too?

He's I'm at 85.

You're at 85.

He went down to 80. 20 he's been

at 82 a.

Warm 82O.

OK.

Remember warm.

Yes, the wrapper is on the

lighter side of what's probably

the upper quartile of wrapper

darkness and plenty of

discoloration veins and oil.

Plenty of discoloration, plenty

means I don't know, I don't like

the appearance 84. 82.

Warm 82 is taken to the warm 82

OK.

As the finish develops, the

first cigar starts to taste like

a toasted sesame seed bagel.

Oh God.

Well, The other two cigars learn

more into toasty and roasted

flavors, though the third has

unique chocolate pudding flavor.

Timer is now hit the ground.

He pushed it off, yeah.

He's very angry.

I would.

I heard pudding.

A cigar that tastes like

pudding.

I must have.

Wow, I don't.

Think I've ever tasted a cigar

with like, pudding?

They were.

Last week it was.

Flying.

I'm sticking 85.

No, I'm going to move up to 83

with the pudding.

OK.

Yeah.

Well, it's not going to be

plugged because it's probably

underfilled and it's 6 3/4 by

58, so.

In the early part of the final

third, each cigar seems to go

through this brief moment of

bitterness.

Given how consistent the profile

has been up until this point,

it's even more jarring than it

would be on most other cigars.

86.

That OK, 83.

All right, final thoughts.

If by the third puff of the

Pledge of Allegiance rockets you

aren't into the flavor profile,

it's probably best that you find

a different cigar to smoke.

Most of our reviews will show

that not only is the sum

variance between the three

cigars we smoke for a review,

but also transitions throughout

a cigar.

This is an exception, an example

of the extremely consistent

experience.

It's also an example of a great

cigar from a technical

standpoint, executing the

flavors it has very well with

only a few construction related

hiccups.

Unfortunately, this is also one

of the most limited cigars we

reviewed this year, and so if

you are reading this and you

haven't already purchased the

Rocket, you probably aren't

going to get a chance to, at

least not in 2025.

So it's consistent.

It's probably boring.

It gets bitter a little bit.

You sound like you like it, and

I think Charlie's definitely a

pudding guy.

Maybe he doesn't like pudding.

Oh, you think he's a pudding?

Guy, the final thoughts thing

means nothing from Charlie.

You could write this was the

greatest cigar ever and it could

be an 88.

I'm going to go 87.

I'm going.

To.

Go 86. 90.

Charlie's and I won again.

A-90.

A-90.

Got a 90.

He's a pudding guy.

He loves his pudding dog.

Rocket.

Remind me of What's the Nestle?

Alright, we got to go because

the iPad's going to die.

Oh my God.

This is from August 21st, 2012.

It is reviewed by Brian.

Why didn't you charge it?

Well, because you showed up

early or would have charged for

another hour and a half.

I mean, we were, we did it like

a week ago.

I have to charge it every week.

Yeah, you had seven days.

It sits over there in the

cabinet.

Where do you want me to leave it

plugged in at?

I'm plugging it over here.

It'll be gone by the end of the

week.

This is a Davidoff Dominican

Republic limited edition review

the AVO 25th anniversary

edition.

We have cameras here.

We would tell you who took it.

People unplug it all the time.

The thing was unplugged this

week when I got here.

OK, what?

This is the AVO 25th Anniversary

Edition cigar.

By.

By who?

Brian.

Reviewed by Brian.

OK.

This is from 2020.

Twelve.

OK, you want me to go first or?

No, I'll go first.

You sure?

Yep.

Because we've just proven that I

can beat you either way.

No, I'll go 1st 82.

OK, 88 OH.

You son of a bitch.

All right, it's the AVO 25th

anniversary edition.

It is a Dominican Republic

factory is OK cigars rappers

Dominican, Creoho sun grown

binders Dominican fillers

Dominican.

It is a six by $5216.00.

Back in 2012, the release date

was September of 2012.

The number of cigars smoked

Review only two.

They must have really liked it

back in 2012 for $16.00.

Yeah, I'm talking about the

manufacturer 82.

It's OK.

By the OK brand, I'll stay 88

boots, he said 82.

Oh, did he?

Oh, he went first just now.

We're sticking.

Yeah, the second third continues

much as the first, which is to

say delectably mild.

Delectably mild.

To sun grown.

OK.

Boots is it?

Oh, that's it.

That was it.

That's it.

That's the clue.

Oh, 82.

I'll stay 86.

You were 88.

I'll stay.

I'll move to 86.

The final third has started to

get a little harsh, which

unfortunately for a cigar with

such a delicate profile, means

that most of the flavors have

become muted.

Now it sucks the final third.

82.

I'm going to go.

I'm going to stay 86.

Ironically, the final third has

been the best as far as

construction goes, with very

little flaky ash and no touch

ups required.

But tastes like garbage.

Very bitter $16.00 What?

84.

He slid up.

Is this the last?

Is it?

Yes, and we have final thoughts.

Oh, we do have one more going to

go 85.

I haven't smoked an avo in quite

a while and I'm not entirely

sure why.

I used to enjoy them regularly,

but for some reason they have

fallen out of my rotation.

This cigar reminds me that I

should occasionally enjoy an

avo, especially if I'm looking

for a good mild cigar.

The subtle flavours and delicate

profile was enjoyable throughout

most of the cigar.

Unfortunately, the mild profile

was overwhelmed at the end with

some slight harshness that would

have ruined a fuller bodied

cigar.

I'm hoping that a few months in

the humor will allow the last

third to mellow out and let the

cigar shine in its entirety.

For now though, I can easily

recommend picking up a few to

try as overall it was an

enjoyable smoke.

Boots. 83.

Oh, he went down, down.

Oh my God, I'm going to go back

up.

I'm going to go 87. 86 I was

honored, damn it.

I still won.

You still won.

Unbelievable.

Man.

It was.

It was not even that great.

He had to put it back in the

humidor, let it sit and he still

gave it a 86.

I was so close.

Well, he said it was a good

zagar, he wishes he smoked more

and you should go buy.

One guess what?

What he said was is he said that

he usually liked to smoke avo

but this reminded him why he why

he hasn't.

You know what he said?

He said, he said, guess what, In

13 years there's going to be a

show that's going to guess these

reviews and Mike is going to

dominate in it against Boots.

No chocolate.

That's exactly what he said.

No chocolate pudding.

Final thoughts.

OK, what else you got?

You got a listener of the week?

I do not.

Boo.

Do you got a listener of the

week?

Yeah, he's sitting behind you.

Oh, look at that.

Brilliant.

He's in the bathroom.

No, he's that's behind me.

He's more beside me.

Dak Prescott of the Dallas.

Mayor of Cigar Town.

Of the Dallas Cowboys.

Yes, Mr. Dak.

Dak, what is your last name?

Noel.

KNOLE.

Yes, Kanole.

Shop of the Week, Cigar Life,

where I'll be doing it in an

event at the last Saturday of

the month on the 29th or the

30th.

The 30th.

The 29th this year, 30th is

there.

Excellent.

All right, it's been episode 401

of Cigars or Podcasts.

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Show Notes

Welcome to Episode 401 of The Cigar Hustlers Podcast. This week we’re diving into the biggest stories making headlines: MrBeast gets slapped with a lawsuit from Spalding over “The Beast” trademark, Taylor Swift breaks the internet with her surprise debut on the New Heights podcast, and Hurricane Erin makes history as the first Category 5 of the season. We’ll also catch you up on cigar industry news, from Arturo Fuente shaking up international distribution to Cigars International expanding into new markets, plus PCA’s new global education push. And of course, we’ll finish with What’s the Score and a fresh review.

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