ACHP Episode 402 Big Announcements, NFL Surprises & a New Cigar Drop
Episode Summary
Episode 402 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens with Mike Palmer, Mike Szczepankiewicz and engineer Mr. Boots running through their usual mix of trending news and shop business. They plug chpod.com merch, announce that the Alcatraz cigar sold out (with more on the way), preview an in-store Sinistro Connecticut release at Cigar Hustler, and a weekend appearance at Cigar Life in Lakeland, Florida. On Patreon they're smoking Drew Estate's mystery Freestyle Live (FSL) secret cigar, trying to guess whether it's a Connecticut shade or another Blackened-style release.
The middle of the show is heavy on non-cigar trending news: Korean entertainer Kim Jong-kook's wedding announcement, the Jets trading defensive tackle Derrick Nnadi back to the Kansas City Chiefs, and the Buccaneers waiving rookie safety Shilo Sanders after he was ejected for throwing a punch against the Bills. That leads into a long debate about whether Shilo and Shedeur Sanders are being treated fairly, whether star power lets players like Myles Garrett get away with more, and the baggage that comes with being Deion Sanders' sons. They also sample Mitch Smith's Japanese "poop Coke," and Boots delivers a movie-history segment on drag in film (Some Like It Hot, The Queen, The Rocky Horror Picture Show).
Cigar news covers two big items. First, RoMa Craft Tobac is shipping the newest CroMagnon Craft Marquette release, the Steel Porcupine — a 4.5 x 56 perfecto with an Ecuadorian Connecticut-seed wrapper, Cameroon binder, and Dominican/Honduran filler, $12 MSRP, limited to 796 bundles of ten. The crew liked it when Skip Martin brought samples to the shop, and Boots already bought two bundles. Second, the Premium Cigar Association announced a three-day executive education course on premium cigar marketing at Florida International University in Miami (Nov. 19–21), led by new PCA CEO Joshua Habersky, with the final day at Empire Social Lounge. That sparks a candid discussion about PCA salaries, Habersky's estimated ~$300K compensation, Scott Pearson's move to the CAA, whether the course is worthwhile education or a revenue grab, and why cigar advertising restrictions make marketing so hard in the first place.
The show closes with "What's the Score," where the hosts guess halfwheel review scores. Brooks Whittington's review of the Punch Mr. Punch Wieners (Honduras, Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper, USA broadleaf binder, $6.99) surprises everyone with a strong score thanks to a mid-cigar shift into coffee, sourdough and barbecue sweetness. Then Charlie Minato's 2016 review of the Padrón 1926 Series No. 48 Natural (5.5 x 60) lands at a shocking 76 — great flavor undone by an open draw, tunneling and a three-and-a-half hour smoke time.
In This Episode
- 01Shop News, Merch and EventsAlcatraz sells out on chpod.com, plus an in-store Sinistro Connecticut release at Cigar Hustler and an appearance at Cigar Life in Lakeland.
- 02Patreon Smoke: Drew Estate Freestyle Live Secret CigarThe crew smokes the unannounced FSL secret cigar and tries to guess the blend and wrapper.
- 03Trending News: Kim Jong-kook WeddingThe Korean entertainer and Running Man star announces a private wedding in Seoul.
- 04NFL Talk: Nnadi Trade and Shilo Sanders WaivedThe Jets send Derrick Nnadi back to Kansas City while Tampa Bay waives Shilo Sanders after a preseason ejection for throwing a punch.
- 05Boots' Drag Film HistoryBoots reviews three landmark films — Some Like It Hot, The Queen, and The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
- 06RoMa Craft Steel Porcupine ReleaseDetails on the newest Craft Marquette release: 4.5 x 56 perfecto, Ecuadorian Connecticut-seed wrapper, Cameroon binder, $12, limited to 796 bundles.
- 07PCA Executive Education Course at FIUJoshua Habersky leads a $499 three-day premium cigar marketing course in Miami, prompting debate about PCA salaries, value, and industry priorities.
- 08What's the Score: Punch Mr. Punch Wieners & Padrón 1926 No. 48The hosts guess halfwheel scores for a surprisingly good Punch release and a Padrón 1926 Natural that Charlie Minato panned for construction.
Brands & Cigars Discussed
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Transcript
Mike Palmer: Coming up on today's show, a South Korean superstar makes a major life announcement. Some surprising shifts shake up the NFL. There's a brand new cigar hitting the market that you'll want to know about. I'm Mike Palmer.
This is the Cigars Podcast, episode four. 402 with myself, Mike Szczepankiewicz, and our engineer, Mr. Boots. Afternoon, gentlemen.
Hello. Good afternoon. Like and subscribe? If you wait till I get to that.
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Also, make sure to like, subscribe, and share the podcast on whichever provider you use. com. Oh, thank you, gentlemen. By Alcatraz.
Alcatraz, yeah, we actually sold out of Alcatraz, actually. We sold out of Alcatraz. We have more coming. We got more, we had more on the way.
We had to order more. Buy more. We want to make this the biggest sale ever. Alcatraz, New York, baby.
Crazy. m. m. m.
for a huge Postagna event. Nice. Very nice. What are we smoking on Patreon, Michael?
Today we are smoking the FSL, which was part of the Drew Estate. It was the last Drew Estate secret cigar thing that came in the cup. Did they announce what it was? I don't know.
Oh, okay. I don't watch the video. I don't think anybody watches the video anymore. Freestyle Live.
There we go. Oh, that's what FSL is. Freestyle Live. Freestyle Live, yes.
Oh, I thought that was the first Secret Liga. Yes, that too. The first Secret Liga. It's not the first one.
They do a secret one every time they do one. But it looks like it's a Connecticut Shade of some sort, obviously. They released a blackened Connecticut, I think, last time, right? There is a regular Connecticut blackened already.
Oh, there's a blackened Connecticut. Yeah, that was the last secret release. Yeah, I believe that was the last one. Who knows what that could be?
1 grams. 17 grams? 1. 1.
All right, you guys ready to get into some trendy news? Guy Draws here. Check it out. Yes.
Absolutely. Let's go. All right. Kim Jong-kuk announces private wedding plans.
South Korean icon Kim Jong-kuk. His career encompasses music, a variety of television, beginning with the popular duo Turbo in 1995, and he transitioned into a solo music career in 2001. He rose international fame as a main cast member on the long-running variety show Running Man, earning multiple awards and widespread recognition across Asia. In addition to those core activities, he has hosted other various programs released his own youtube channel for fitness uh content celebrating 30 years in entertainment world he has officially announced his upcoming marriage wow apparently it's a big deal in korea yeah i don't know why we were covering this what is it what is it's a big deal internationally okay how's that gonna like but i don't know anything about this guy i don't care about it like i have no intel but if you do if you do the short and you tag him then people People over in Asia might be watching.
Yeah, you think we can get the Asian market? You never know. There's a lot. Apparently Superman was bigger than Taylor Swift last week.
Yeah. You never know. You never know. You never know.
He shared the happy news via a heartfelt handwritten letter revealing that his fiance is a private individual. This was the biggest story on Google Trending. Kim Jong-uk? This guy was, yeah.
Not Kim Jong-un. I'll be honest, I had to look up who he was. Yeah. But when I did.
All right, tell us what he looked like. He looks like a Korean guy that lifts a lot of weights. weights. This is not the same.
Oh yeah. Like Tong Paul. Uh, more, more tall, less stocky. Oh, like, but, oh, but you know what I'm talking about.
The guy, you know exactly who I was talking about. Well, there's only one. Tong Paul. Tong Paul from the eighties.
Better, a lot better looking than that guy too. That guy was kind of scary looking. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Uh, scary. He was kind of, he always, uh, sort of had that face where it was, he was supposed to be always the bad guy. He'd kill people. Yeah.
Yeah. No, he'd go like this. They plan a small intimate wedding in Seoul with close friends and family, though the exact date has not been announced yet. Very excited for them.
Congratulations. Maybe we'll get invited. It's media maybe. Media coverage?
We would definitely go. We would definitely go to Seoul, Korea. All right, NFL shifts. Jets trade Nadi to the Chiefs.
Okay. I love this. Is this story no good either? No, I love this already.
Because of the name that you just pronounced, but go ahead. That's how you do it, I looked it up. Okay. How do you think you say it?
I don't know, I don't know the story yet, go ahead. Oh, the NFL news, the New York Jets have made a roster move that's turning some heads. Defensive tackle Derek Nadee is on his way back to Kansas City Chiefs after a trade that sends him out in exchange for a conditional late round pick swap in 2027 draft. Now, Nadee is a familiar face in Kansas City, he spent the bulk of his career with the Chiefs after being drafted in 2018.
In 2018, he was part of the tough defensive front that helped deliver multiple playoff runs and Super Bowl appearances. Known for his consistency and run-stopping ability, then flashy stats, Nadi has been a reliable presence in the trenches. So why move him now? For the Jets, this deal is about depth and direction.
They've been busy reshaping their defensive line this preseason, adding veterans like Harrison Phillips and Jawan Briggs. Is that Jawan? With those pieces in place, Nadie became expendable, and flipping him for a future pick swap keeps the roster flexible. For the Chiefs, it's a bit of a homecoming.
They know what they're getting with Nadie, a steady physical player who understands their systems, and with Kansas City looking to tighten up against the run and reinforce the rotation, bringing him back makes sense. It's not the kind of blockbuster move that dominates headlines, but trades like this can pay off in the long grind of the NFL season. The Jets get to move forward with their new look, and the Chiefs added a proven veteran who can step right in. There's a lot of sports this week, I figured you guys would be excited.
Yeah, you know, because we're right on the cusp of football. Thank God. That's why there's a lot of football information. Oh, I can't wait.
Yeah, well, you know, I don't think it doesn't matter what the Jets do, whatever. And I don't think that Kansas City, I think that they're done too. So, the Swift power is over. Oh, the Swift power.
Yeah. Well, the Mahomes power is over. No, the Swift power has ended. Oh.
The Taylor Swift. um so yeah good for that who do you think is gonna who's a chime in boots it's sports yeah who's your shocker who do you think is gonna shock quarterback this year oh uh dart dart yeah from the giants yeah this boy's out of his mind i don't know who the dart is you know what that guy is throwing some good passes you know what's funny is i actually disagree with that I've made a statement so much that the person who I think is going to do well is Daniel Jones. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah.
I would have thought, like, you would say, like, Cam Ward, or... No, Cam Ward's an ass. Any of the other people. We saw Cam Ward at the Tampa game, my son yelled for him the entire time, the entire time, and he refused to acknowledge him.
Like, it's not like he was playing the game, like, he did two drives, and they're mediocre at best, and, you know, he could have just waved, and he did not wave or anything. And, like, I don't like that shit at all. You know, if you're a player on the field, you should acknowledge kids. It's just that simple.
Yeah. They pay whatever. I don't know. You know what I'm saying.
I get it, yeah. They make you popular, unpopular, ongoing. Not even like a... Not only that, but, like, you know, oh, my God, Cam said hi to me, you know, and then, like...
Then he's a Cam fan for a long time. Yeah, exactly. Sure, makes sense. And he wasn't really playing, you said?
He did two drives, and that was it. And the rest of the time, he's just sitting on the side? He's sitting around bullshitting. Yeah.
It's not like the, you know... Sitting there doing shots or something? Yeah, this is preseason. Right.
It's preseason. " Right. Exactly. Right.
Not even like a comeback story, like a Sanders anything? No. Yeah. Sanders, with Deion?
Yeah. Nobody heard what he said. Not Shiloh. Shooter.
Oh, yeah? Shidor also ignored a kid? Yeah. Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Damn it. That's so ridiculous. All right, before we go any further, everybody, we got the poop coke. Oh.
From Mr. Mitch, who was in Japan. So, everybody want to take a drink of their poop coke? Whoever poops first.
We're going right into the poop coke? This would have been a great... Before we get going. You should have shown the coke.
When you were talking about that first door. Before, well, that's Korea, that's not Japan. Oh, so sorry. Dude, dude.
Wow, he just thinks, you know, they're all... You know, we can count on you to always lob up something. Something racist or insulting. No, no, no.
Don't push your power off on me. All right, so what does it taste like? Tastes a little sweeter. Well, I don't drink regular Coke, but it just tastes sweeter to me than regular Coke.
I don't, the way they described it, I mean, it tastes okay. Yeah. There's a little bit of an aftertaste. A little bit of a finish?
Well, I would call it aftertaste. It tastes like wine? The finish. The nose of it is a little fruity.
I'm a Coca-Cola sommelier. Yeah, it has notes of chocolate, s'mores. It's got some nutmeg? Yeah.
A nutmeg made from teriyaki chicken? It tastes like Coke Zero, bro. It kind of tastes like flat Coke Zero. It does taste a little flat, right?
It's not flat, you're right. No. Hmm. Interesting.
Well, just know we're all gonna be blasting the toilets at the back of them. There's only two down here, so. Exactly. Well, thank you, Mitch Smith.
Yes, thank you, Mitch. Well, thank you, Mitch Smith, for the- We've had it for a week, I forgot last week. What's the over-under on this? On what?
On who has to go first. It's not colon blow, bro. Colon blow. It's just, it's just high fiber or whatever.
Oh, I mean, he's talking about it was a laxative. It's not a laxative. It's got a little bit of a laxative in it, the fiber, the type of fiber is used in laxatives. Yeah, but it's not like an instant purge.
No, no, no, it's not like we're gonna all soil our clothes. Yeah. No, no, not like that. Just supposed to help you.
If we do, we'll keep the cameras rolling, though. Everybody, you take a camera with you, we'll take one with me, we'll take one with me. Oh, God. Oh, no.
I did have Waffle House this morning, so it could be a combination. Oh, you have extra. Yeah. You didn't hardly drink any of yours.
I don't think any of yours. You're going to be destroying a toilet regardless. Take a big ol' swig of that there, Booty. Halfway.
There you go. There you go. We're halfway there. All right.
All right, go ahead. All right, Buccaneers are waiving rookie safety Shiloh Sanders. Yeah. Tampa Bay Buccaneers informed rookie safety Shiloh Sanders on Sunday that he is being waived, his agent told ACHP's Mike Palmer.
Mike Palmer, Agent Drew Rosenhaus, and Robert, well, it wasn't ESPN, I changed it. No, you don't have to tell everybody the secrets. Okay. Well, just the way you said it, I thought it was wrong.
Agent Drew Rosenhaus and Robert Bailey told Palmer that they hope Sanders gets claimed on waivers. Nice. You guys know what he did? Is that the end?
I don't know what this is, the cigar. I've tasted this cigar before. It tastes identical to something. It's definitely not the black and I think it's the shady.
I'm trying to figure this out. All right, well, don't do it here. Yeah. The news comes after Sanders was ejected from Tampa Bay's third preseason.
Wait, we know. What? We know what he did. Well, maybe everybody else does it.
It's on the news. It's on the news. Oh, I thought he asked us. I asked if you did, you know, trying a little interaction, and Mikey was like, oh, it tastes familiar.
The news come after Sanders was ejected from Tampa Bay's third preseason game against the Buffalo Bills on Sunday night for throwing a punch. He's in trouble. Sanders punched tight end Zach Davidson, who is blocking him after some heavy pushing and shoving in the second quarter. Bucs linebacker John Bullock tried to calm Sanders afterward, and Tampa Bay coach Todd Bowles looked at Sanders as he walked back to the sideline.
Bowles, B-O-W-L-E-S. Can't check all the names, I guess. Well, that one looked obvious. It wasn't, you know, double N-A-D-E-E.
So how do you say Bowles? Bowles. Bowles? Yeah, it's not Bowles.
All right, look to Sanders and he walked back to the sideline. Bowles addressed the incident of Tampa Bay's 23-19 loss. You can't throw punches in this league. That's inexcusable, Bowles said.
They're going to get you every time. You've got to grow from that. Sanders also flagged for a pass interference call in the first quarter of the game. He had been competing for the fourth and final safety spot with Kevin Merriweather, that one's right, right?
, Tykee Smith, and Christian, what is with the names of these football players? I don't know, the last one you pronounce was Smith. Yeah. Right, Tyke Smith and Christian, L-Z-I-E-N, Lizin?
L-what? L-Z-I-E-N. Or maybe that's a capital I. I don't know.
Hmm. Whose father's Pro Football Hall of Fame, Deion Sanders, and signed with the Buccaneers after he went undrafted. Hmm. So we've covered that you're not allowed to throw punches in the NFL, but it is perfectly acceptable to take someone's helmet off and smack them with it.
That was the miles We're from Miles Garrett to Rudolph. Okay, well listen, I don't care what you say about life, here's the reality. We live in this hierarchy of things, and if you're really good at something, you can get away with a lot of stuff. Miles Garrett is one of the best in the league.
So look, he was sorry, and we moved on. Shador Sanders is at the beginning of his career in the NFL. His dad is a lot more prolific than Miles Garrett. It doesn't matter.
Shador Sanders is Shador Sanders. Deion Sanders is Deion Sanders. Deion could have got away with it. Yeah, Deion could have pulled it off, but Shador can't yet, right?
So the only way that Shador gets to pull something like that off is he had to be unbelievable. He had to go top, you know, first round pick. He didn't even go in the draft. He went after the draft.
Did you guys see the clip of what happened to him, why he threw the punch? I saw the clip. Yeah, he got bamboozled. Right.
I mean, I get why he did it, but at the same time, I mean, maybe you should have tried to get through the block. You can't punch the guy. Yeah. It's just that simple.
You can't punch the guy. Yeah, he's obviously got anger issues. I mean, he... Well, he was getting pushed around like a child.
No, I think, you know what, dude? Here's what's happened, is like, you've had these guys that they're great athletic ability and they've done a fantastic job in college, right? And now they're scrapping for their lives to join an NFL team for whatever reason, I don't, you know, I don't know if it's politics, if it's, you know, the audience, if it's the organizations, if it's the companies, if it's their lack of performance or whatever, I don't know what it is, because I'm not that smart when it comes to owning these things, so I'm not going to act like I am. But they're gotta, they gotta be getting agitated, both Sanders boys, they have to be getting agitated, Shiloh and Shador, right?
Yeah, but what do they expect? What do they expect? Yeah. I think that they expect it a little bit more than what they've gotten.
I don't think that what they've gotten has been fair. Can I ask you a question? You get one question. Okay, you know who Michael Jordan is, right?
I've heard of him, yes. Which son went to the NBA? Which son went to the NBA? I just know the one that tried to park his Lamborghini SUV on the railroad tracks.
Well, neither one went to the NBA, but they both play college. This is the greatest basketball player of all time. Sanders is not the greatest football player of all time. He is a great football player.
Okay, maybe he's a better father than Michael. I don't know. No, but no, what I'm just saying is, these guys played in Colorado. They didn't play for any of the big time schools.
Right? And I'm not taking anything away from what Colorado did, but I'm just saying what division they played in. It's a lot different in that division than it is in the NFL. Maybe.
And it's a lot different, like, if they would have played schools like Alabama, LSU, you know, any of the big time schools, Texas, any of them, I don't think they would have done what they did. You know what, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not agreeing with you either, but I'm not disagreeing with you, because I honestly don't know. But I will say this, they seem like they have a lot of hard work and ethic, and they seem like they have good athletic ability.
I've seen highlights of both of them, like, damn, that's pretty good. So, you know. Well, Cleveland's just a messed up area anyways, and that was probably the worst team for him to go to. Cleveland's, I mean, I would have loved to see them both be in Tampa, and both let, give them time to develop and grow, and watch them come up and be, both be on the Bucks.
I thought that would be badass. I don't think that, I think that Shiloh winds up somewhere. I don't think that he doesn't wind up somewhere. I think, even if he doesn't play, I think a great publicity would be to Dallas.
Would make sense. I think that he's going to play. I'm just saying, even if he didn't. Yeah.
Right, Dallas would be a spot. Well, Dallas should have picked them both up. Yeah, I don't know why they didn't. What?
They didn't. So, you got something? Hey, I have no idea what's going on. You have no idea what's going on?
I don't even know what his point was with everything he was saying. I completely lost to them. Maybe they go to Kansas City. No, I think the Kansas City thing's over.
I think it's done. These teams you're mentioning, you didn't pick them up because they're not that good. I think that they are, but I think that they come with a lot of baggage. For one, they come with their dad.
Right. And I think that that makes things difficult. Is he one of those stage dads who's gonna show up practice all the time? They're all stage dads.
I don't know. I could say that his nickname is Primetime. I know who he is. You know?
Yeah. I mean, that doesn't tell me that he's gonna show up at practice and try to coach his kids. Don't listen to coach. Do what I'm telling you to do.
I don't know if that's the case. if that's the case I just think that this is you know he's a showman right right and people don't like that they don't like showmanship that's not strictly for the team you know like Cam Ward is a team guy right there's only been two children that have come into the NFL so far that I've seen that done okay who are they Marvin Harrison's son which he's okay but on the team that he's on I mean, he's one of the top wide receivers. Yeah. And then, Frank Gorson, I really like him.
I think there's more than that, I just don't think that you're realizing it. I think as far as linemen, there's definitely been some. Oh, well, yeah, maybe, I just don't remember those guys. Long.
You know, was Howie Long and Jake Long? Yeah. It comes to mind. I think that there's more than you think.
Paul Long? No, not Paul. I honestly think there's more there than you think. Yeah, probably.
I bet the Pouncey Twins, one of them was on Pittsburgh, one of those was on the Dolphins. Yeah. So there you go. You're just making your rounds.
You're a legend in your own at this point. I don't know. I mean, they'll definitely remember one of them. Do you exchange numbers?
You call them from time to time now? No. No, no, no, no. Are they cigar guys?
No, actually, they're not. Well, because they're at a cigar thing. They are, but they just peddled their whiskey, told their story, and then they left. Did you ask them if they smoked cigars?
No. They wanted to talk about the whiskey. I know all about their whiskey and their other stuff. But you should ask them if they like cigars.
You guys like cigars? Yeah. Well, I mean, it was in a cigar lounge. But did they smoke cigars there?
No. Like I said, I showed up an hour late because of traffic. So, no, when I got there, they were just starting their presentation. Yeah.
So, you know, if they were just starting their presentation, it's been an hour long, they would have already been smoked. The cigars still wouldn't have been in existence at that point. You would think, right. So, they never smoked.
No. So, I mean, I would have asked the question, do you like cigars? And if they said no, I would have said, I had no idea you were a cigar. And then, well, you know.
Well, we couldn't remember their names, and so Saturday morning I had to look them up so Adrienne could tell her friend whose autograph she got, and the information I found about them online was not overly friendly. No, they were part of a scandal. More than one, apparently. Yeah.
What kind of scandal? What's the whole dolphin thing, Mike Pouncey? I don't know what happened. I'm not a dolphin fan.
They were both involved in separate ones. Yeah, what is it when you make fun of somebody and beat them up and stuff? Oh, that was the one guy who got his feelings hurt in the locker room? Yeah.
Yeah, they told him he wasn't black enough. I thought that that was the other guy. I thought that was Fitzpatrick or something. No, no.
No, no, it was one of them. Pouncey? Yeah, it was Pouncey and Long. Yeah.
That's why the dolphins got rid of Long and Pouncey. They told him he was not black enough. Yep. Oh.
And then... That's a true statement. The other one threatened to beat up the Japanese trainer on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor in retaliation for them attacking Hawaii. Yeah, they're...
But that sounds like, you know what I mean? Like, that just sounds like locker room BS. You know what I mean? Like, hey, I'm a...
Well, I mean, we obviously weren't there. We didn't see it. It depends on how far it went. I don't know.
It went far enough to him get in trouble. He no longer plays football. Well, I mean, they're older now. They retired in '21.
It wasn't much before that that that happened. Because they had given football all they had to give. Oh, look at Palmer. It's very easy to judge from a...
Well, I'll just tell you what I read. from a bird's eye perspective. They were very nice when my wife and I were talking to them. The one was.
I can tell you that I am a severe ball buster. I don't know if you knew that about me. No, I had not known. I did not know that.
Just don't bust my balls on Pearl Harbor Day. I mean, realistically, if you took a week of interactions with me and you, and I hurt your feelings, and I was a big enough celebrity, I'm probably in some hot water, right? Like, he said these things, and I'm like, yeah, but he's my boy, and that's how I talk, you know what I mean? I'm not aggressively trying to do physical harm to anybody, nor would you me, you know?
Well, like you say dumb shit, too. Sure. Maybe not as aggressive as me. Not as aggressive.
No. But Boots is definitely as aggressive as me. He's hurtful. Oh, wow.
Am I? Yeah. Sorry. Speaking of which, we have Boots trending news.
I sent it to your phone. Oh, okay. Completely unprepared. Yeah, completely unprepared.
Is it The Wieners again? No, he's doing a movie review today. Ooh, a movie review. His top three favorite movies in a certain area.
In a genre? All right, here we go. All right, here we go. That's the word, thank you.
Are we going now? Yep. Hello, peoples. Okay.
All right, let's go. You have to read out loud. I'm going to. Yeah, read it as you see it.
Before RuPaul's Drag Race brought drag into the mainstream, drag queens and gender-bending characters had already made their mark on film for decades. From campy comedies to underground documentaries, these movies... Come on! These movies helped shape queer culture and continue to inspire audiences today.
Here are three of my favorite from the 1950s through the early 2000s. First up, Some Like It Hot from 1959. Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon disguised themselves as women to hide from the mob, joining an all-female band alongside Marilyn Monroe. It's funny, clever, and one of the first mainstream comedies to bring drag into Hollywood and spotlight.
Next, The Queen from 1968. Long before Paris' burning document, the New York ballroom scene, this film gave audience a rare look into drag pageants of the era. It captures the glamour, the shade, and the artistry of queens who paved the way for the culture we celebrate today. It's only his top three favorites.
And of course, the Rocky Horror Picture Show from 1975, Tim Curry's unforgettable role as Dr. Frankenfurter, The sweet transvestite from transsexual Transylvania turned this cult classic into a rite of passage for generations of queer fans. With midnight screenings and audience participation it became more than a film, it became an experience, from the glitz of Hollywood comedies, to the rawness of documentaries, to the wild camp of cult musicals, drag has always found a way to shine on screen. And these films remind us that drag isn't just entertainment, it's history, it's resistance, it's fabulous.
This has been Boots with Gay Movie History. Thank you, Boots. He went through it as fast as he possibly could. I hit camera three.
When, this whole time? That whole time? No, no, just now. There is no camera three.
You did that on the last show, too. Sometimes my fingers get crazy. Sometimes my fingers get crazy. He gets excited.
It's his favorite. All the wieners last week, the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Rocky Horror Picture Show, transsexual stuff, he gets excited. Are your eyes okay, buddy?
My contact was Book and Blurry. Why didn't you put in, like, Sorority Girls? Like, that was a great movie. Because that's not one of your top three.
It doesn't fit your genre. It doesn't fit what you're talking about today. Have you guys ever seen Sorority Girls? No.
No? It's when the three guys dress up as girls and they join the sorority. So, see, he is a big fan of cross-dressing movies. He digs it, yeah.
Yeah. He digs it. All right, Michael, do you have anything in social media you'd like to talk about tonight? You know, didn't really catch too much in social media.
We did briefly talk last week about Joshua Hoberski and the PCA salary and stuff. He accepted my friend request yesterday. Yes, he did, so he did comment on our... Oh, did he?
Yeah, he said, he said, well, he goes, I think he wrote something like, "At the very least, I need a comb," which I thought was pretty funny. Non-profits have to disclose a salary. I had them mixed. Non-profits have to disclose your salary.
Yes, we were corrected by Mr. Benro. Corporations don't have to disclose your salary. That's why the NFL changed from non-profit to corporation, because they had to disclose prior to.
So the PCA is a corporation? No, they're a non-profit, so you can look up the data and the information, and from what we can figure… From what we've been told. Oh, I mean, just looking at the data, we could figure that Josh would probably make somewhere north of 300k a year. Right.
I think that that's fair. Really? Yeah. Okay.
I honestly think that that's fair. How much do you think the new guy is going to be making now, now that you know what roughly Joshua makes? Are you talking about the Ricardo? The guy in charge of the international educational programs, which we have a follow up story this week on that, too.
Okay, it's too much. A million. Whatever he's getting, whatever he's getting, it's too much. You think it's more than Joshua, though?
Uh, no, it's gotta be close. Yeah? 50, I would guess. No, I think he's at a million.
He's from Priceline. A mill? No, he's from TripAdvisor. Oh, whatever.
The owl. Now, if we're assuming Josh makes around the 3 mark, and Scott Pearson left because he wasn't making enough, what do you think he's making over at the CAA? Way more. It's gotta be more.
Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, so what's the move? What is the logic? Where is the range for, hey, I'm leaving this corporation to move to the other corporation because of X.
Right, how much do you need to move? What's the percentage? I would say it's about 20%. You think that's it?
20%? Minimum. That's the baseline. Now, did he have to move, or did he just go across town?
He moved. Okay. C. area?
C. area. So... Plenty of money.
No, no, I know he moved company. I meant physically moving his entire family from one house to another house. Oh, maybe he was there already. I don't know.
Right. So, but like at least mid threes. It's close to fours. I think it's a lot.
I think it's got to be at least four over. I mean, you saw Glenn... I didn't imagine that type of job paid that kind of money. You've seen Glenn Louves with the bow ties, bro.
Well, Glenn Loop's an attorney, though. Oh, is he? What are we doing? Exactly.
That's what I'm getting at. Yeah. Apparently, there's money to be made in the cigar industry. We're just not be making it.
Well, you need to be a consultant of some sort. Well, everybody's giving their money to that guy. Those guys. I think that Joshua does good work, and I think that a $300K salary is reasonable.
Did he get to ya? What? No. No, if you look at my previous conversation, I said the same thing.
I think that that price is about right. That makes sense. Four, I got questions. Like, eh, I don't know man, you're, you're really like, right, eh.
You know. I've got plenty of questions for three. I think a lot, you know, a lot of, but you know, you better perform. Yeah.
You better perform. So. Definitely, yeah. And this is what, year two for him?
This is year two. year two. Yeah, but he was wasn't he the second guy before this? So yeah, so right.
He was the interim director, whatever. Oh, and now he's I guess this comes up later. Now he's the CEO of PCA. CEO.
Yes. Yeah, he's the head honcho. Right. The big dog.
Right. So how do these guys make their money? How does PCA make their money? Through the convention.
Well, we become members. You pay for your membership. You pay, you know, You pay dues through conventions, you show up at the conventions, that cost money, the wholesalers pay for a booth space, they make money on that, you know, and it's as they grow somewhere about four or five million dollars annual. And PCA does what?
Well, they have the convention, they make people join, they have, well, they help with, they help with the rights of, of cigars, the cigar industry. They definitely lobby and try them. They have lobbyists and stuff. So they're, so they're lobbyists.
I mean I wouldn't say that I think they have lobbyists is the way it works yeah they're all about they take meetings with senators and now he's it now we're cutting me off now now we're back to that we were doing so well for the first 30 minutes but go ahead tell them what they do for PCA no no you're done no okay then um run to cigar news here we go next week Romacraft Tobac will begin shipping the newest cigar in his craft Marquette series to steal porcupine oh a four and a half by 56 per year oh that you know they're going to be a It uses an Ecuadorian, Connecticut seed wrapper over a Cameroon binder and fillers from the Dominican Republic and Honduras. Each cigar is an MSRP of $12 and production is limited to 796 bundles of 10 cigars. The name refers to the term introduced by Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission, as a defense strategy for the future of Ukraine. Layen's basic argument was: Ukraine should develop enough defense that it would deter Russia or any other adversary from the invading of the future as an attack would seem unrealistic given the robustness of the Ukraine military.
I know that's where you got the name. Me neither. It's a cool name though. It is cool.
Hmm. The Kraft Marquette series was introduced in 2023 and has seen a half dozen releases. Romacraft says the series allows consumers a peek into the company's blend process. While the blends have varied, the cigars have had similar packaging.
Ribbons are in lieu of bands, and the cigars have been packaged in 10-count brown paper bundle. Are you excited about this one? I had it when he was here. It was good.
I liked it. Yeah. That was the one I wanted to have, too. I mean, you know, he had a small buffet of assorted cigars.
You could try this. I actually traded somebody to get that one. He, as you mean, Skip Martin? Skip Martin.
Sorry, yes. And Boots, are you excited about this? about this super excited like yeah why are you so excited no i am i already got two bundles you got two bundles okay yeah it's a good blend man i mean they don't make bad cigars so no they make great cigars i can't wait till they get here shipping this week supposedly allegedly shipping this week hopefully not staying in a china box or anything yeah okay all right pca announces executive education program at FIU. Oh.
This falls right in with their new director of education. The Premium Cigar Association has announced that it will host an executive education course centered around the marketing of premium cigars. They're going to teach you how to sell cigars. Is that what they're doing?
It will be held November at Florida International University in Miami. Joshua Bursky, who has changed from PCA executive director to CEO, will lead the course. Though guest speakers will be on hand for the three-day course, The course says that it will use the marketing of premium cigars as a lens to understand broader marketing and consumer engagement trends. Is that because the cigar industry is always changing, or I'm not understanding that?
I don't know either. I'm not quite sure either. Is his background in marketing? Do we know what he did before?
Ricardo Carbione? No, Joshua Burski. He's leading the course. So what's the other guy doing?
I don't know yet. He's just getting away from Priceline. He's just getting away from TripAdvisor. I thought the other guy was supposed to handle the education.
Maybe he's one of the guest speakers. This is interesting. Yeah. I don't know how well it tracks.
I mean, you gotta do something, but I don't know. So they're teaching a college marketing students in the college, correct? This is for people like us to sign up for. There's a fee at the end.
I'll tell you how much it costs. Oh, Lord. All right. Keep going.
Luxury Today is about more than a product. It's about crafting unforgettable, emotional, resonant experiences, says Suzanne Bagnamera, Program Director of FIU's Chaplain School, Executive Education. In a press release, this course is bridging the world of tradition and innovation, giving professionals the tools and insights to elevate the brand and authentically connect with the luxury consumer. Are they going to teach us how to use Instagram?
It's literally what it sounds like. They're going to teach you how to use Instagram? That's what it sounds like they're going to teach you how to do. They didn't say anything about social media.
Where do they say social media? No, but what other marketing can you, you can't do ads for cigars, except in cigar publications, I guess. Yeah. Well, if they're talking about, you know, marketing can be anything.
Marketing can be, you know, a sign that they put by the register. Marketing could be something you put outside your store. It does cover a broad range. I think there's specific workarounds.
Here's the real question. Do you think that the time and energy should be put towards this for Josh and PCA, or should it be put towards something else? I'd like to see the numbers because what they're basing it off of is some type of growth, right? Yeah.
So what growth and what is the numbers of that growth? Okay. What about you? What do you think?
Let's read on. We're going to do the course description. I'm going to tell you exactly what it is. Okay.
Perfect. It says that those who attend the course will walk away with a deep understanding of how luxury brands craft emotional and aspirational value. Strategies for creating experimental marketing that resonate with high-end consumers. Insight into cross-brand collaborations and their impact on brand equity.
Tools for positioning premium products in saturated or emerging luxury markets. Real-world perspectives from industry experts shaping the future of luxury branding. Situated in Miami, a hub of the premium cigar industry, FIU Hospitality is the perfect partner to launch this masterclass, which will feature the best of the premium cigar industry, said Habersky in a press release. My hope is to eventually offer both online and in-person classes to help personalize the premium cigar industry and educate people on the niche industry in the largest hospitality sector.
The course will take place November 19th through the 21st, so that's two days. With the first two days at FIU's Biscayne Bay Campus, and the final day at Empire Social Lounge, a cigar retailer in Fort Lauderdale, the course will cost- Can I guess? That's what I'm getting at, who would like to guess? Three day course, FIU, and then- I would like to guess, $600.
All right. $1,200. $499. That was close.
$500. Mike was closest, so you get two days at college, one day- I win, I win. At the Empire Social Lounge. We would like to offer a fourth day, here at Cigar Hustler, if they would like to come.
Yes, extra $199. So, like, okay, so it just sounds like he's trying to figure out a way to generate more income. Right. Right, exactly.
Which I don't disagree with. I think that that's okay. I just don't know, I don't know if it works. Mikey, did you hear anything in the description that you think would help you and your retail or online business?
I don't really think that this is something that's geared towards me. I would actually go take the course, to be honest. I would go take the course. Just out of curiosity, or you actually think it would do good?
To go listen, to see what exactly it's about. I would totally go do it. What's it called in college when you don't-- oh, maybe it's the wrong crowd. What do you-- in college where you take the course, but you don't really sign up for it, there's a term for that?
Non-committed. Wait, what'd you say? No, that's not it. Non-committed, committed.
Yeah, it's... No, there's a thing where you're just in there watching, you don't get a grade. It's observation. It's called being a cuck.
No, no, that's something that you do on your own, that's something completely different. No, that's what you do. Don't you throw it in. I do, you're the one who brought it up, not me.
You've had that conversation. Okay. Observation. But there's a way to take a college class where it costs less, but you don't get a grade at the end.
Okay. That's the kind of thing you should do. But I don't think this is a graded course anyways. This is like a coaching strategy.
No, but I'm just looking for a discounted way to take it. Maybe you don't get all the information or something. I'll sit through it. I don't care.
Just charge it to the game, baby. Let's go. Greg loves it when he charge things to the game. Oh, yeah.
He does. He loves that. It's amazing. Yeah.
I mean, realistically, you're talking about marketing strategies and all these other things. Wouldn't you like to see cigars, cigar retail stores, cigar brands, any of these other things being permitted advertise on social media platforms, on television, and all All those things. Sure. Certainly.
But I don't think this course is going to do it for you though. Right. But that would be ideally the best form of marketing. You know, being able to promote your store on a local TV channel, but you can't really.
You know, if you talk about cigars, I'm sure there's a loophole, but you can't. Yeah. If you're going to make a course like this, right, something like that, where it can help grow your business and grow the industry. And also, yeah, I mean, there should be future of the industry portion of this class, of this course.
It's the same thing like you take an AC course or a plumbing course or any of that stuff. There's always a future of it, like how do we progress and make this industry better? You know, this sounds more like a money grab. Yeah, I mean, realistically, if I have to watch an advertisement for, you know, something something, Cialis or whatever, by the way, rectal bleeding may cause death disclaimer at the end.
Some of the side effects are worse than the original disease. Yeah, why can't I talk about cigars on the television? I just don't, that makes no sense to me. Yeah, you're gonna get mouth or lung cancer.
No rectal bleeding. Possibly. You have to prove that. Right.
The list is a little bit shorter with cigars than it is with scalars. Disclaimer, may calm you down. You know what I mean? It may cause feelings of relaxation.
Yeah. It may give you a moment to... Of clarity. Yeah.
No choking people. May lower stress in your life. Yeah. In order to reclaim your thoughts.
May save your children. You know? I mean, who knows? Who knows what he can do?
It's ridiculous. Will help your image. Sorry. What do you think he's going to wear to the class?
Joshua Bursky, when he's giving the... Well, if you look through his posts, He actually does dress well. Yeah, he normally wears like a vintage type suit look he has going on. Except for that one day.
We don't know what the hell happened on that day. He was, he was in the middle of jobs, so he wasn't getting a paycheck. It was like he grifted. What job was he in the middle of?
" Oh crap, they think I'm supposed to be here for this. " Wasn't it "Don't be a medicine South Central without drinking your juice in the hood" had the homeless guy and then he got in his Mercedes afterwards? Yeah. Listen, if you're making 300,000 plus, he better be well dressed at all times.
He usually is well dressed. Well, he's not at the level where he can wear anything at once anytime. He's not quite a millionaire though. I think, what's the salary?
You said he's in year two? One more year, he's there. No, I think that the salary for a millionaire is like $500,000 or $600,000, something like that. That makes you a millionaire?
Yeah. So, yeah, he's almost there. Most millionaires make $500,000 to $600,000 annual. Oh.
It's something like that. Okay, next story. Now we have the world's most fun tobacco game show. What's the score?
Oh, we're already rolling into that. I thought we were doing a class. There hasn't been a lot of conversation with the stories. I think there has been.
Yeah. Well, that's the next story. What's the score? What's the score?
We're moving on to what's the score. That's what we have next. All right. This is for August 24, 2025.
Brooks Whittington is the reviewer. Mr. Jump around. It's Mr.
Punches Wiener. Wow. Oh, boy. Here we go.
Okay. Boots, you want to go first? Nope. You want me to go first?
Yep. Well, since you set the standard for the Punches Wiener. 82. Okay.
I'm going 82. He wants 82 for the Punches Wiener. Boots, what do you want for the Punches Wiener? I'm going to go 81.
81 for the Punches Wiener. Okay. All right, cigar reviewed is Punch, Mr. Punches Wieners.
Country of origin is Honduras, Factories, STG, Donna Lee, Rapper, Ecuadorian, Sumatra Seed, Binder, USA Broadly, Filler, Dominican Republic, Honduras, and Nicaragua. Nice. Six inches by 50. It is round like a wiener.
90. Release date April 2025. And he smoked three wieners for this review. The only thing that sounds good about this cigar is the size.
Six by 50. Ecuador and Sumatra. Honduras. Yeah, not a big fan of Honduras.
There's a lot of, a lot of negatives here. Tobacco sounds like shit. I'm gonna go 84, solely based on the 6x50 size. I mean, it is a good size.
It does not affect the score, but it is a, it is capped on both ends. So you can choose from which end you would like to smoke the wiener. For anal plugging purposes, yeah. Is this a Room 101 cigar?
No. It's a Punch. It's Mr. Punch.
Like Punch. It's a Punch Ridiculous whatever. Right, these cigars are okay. BDP a couple of years ago, that's not okay.
But an actual cigar called a Wiener, perfectly fine. Again, that brings me back to the Miles Garrett syndrome. Like, you can do things and get away with things if you are higher up on the food chain. Ah.
Like, I mean, the Fuentes made the Pink Whore, or whatever the hell. Right, yeah, yeah, one of those cigars you call the whore. It's perfectly fine. The pink hooker or something like that.
You know, that's not an issue. Certainly. Right? But if you're Riste and Jocelyn Crowell and you put CBD in your cigars and call them nugs, guess what?
You can't show up at PCA. Yeah, you can't do that. But if Fuente wanted to do that, that would be perfectly fine. Sure.
This is the pink nug. It works like that in every avenue of life. I got news for you. It's great for you.
It's just that simple. I'm going 82. 82, 84? Yep.
Alright, first clue. The wrappers are mottled milk chocolate brown color covered in oils and each has numerous veins running along the length. Alright. It's a very veiny wiener.
And chocolatey brown. Yes. Motted milk chocolate color. Seems like the size wouldn't be correct.
It's vascular. it doesn't really change much for me 85 85 boots you went up one what are you talking about doesn't change a lot like i'm got up like three i'm just flirting in this area in the mid 80s oh god i'm just gonna say the comments in this whole game show so far have not been great he's very upset about the veiny wiener he loves it i'm gonna stick at 82 look at his legs twitching Let's get all excited. 82? Yeah.
All right, when it comes to construction, my second cigar needs a couple of minor burn corrections to stay on track, but the other two cigars are excellent in that regard, and there are nothing but great draws and plenty of thick smoke on all three cigars. We're talking about a puncher? This is the wiener. He loves the thick.
He loves the thick and vascular wiener. Thick, veiny wiener with lots of smoke. 85. I'll stay 85.
85. 82. Okay. Where'd he go?
I couldn't hear him. 82. 82. Other than a minor burn correction for my last cigar, all aspects of the construction are problem-free until I'm finished with each cigar.
Is that your final one? Yes. Or you got a final thought? Nope, now there's a final thought.
Okay, so there is. That was the last clue. Because you've given us zero indication of the flavor profile. Yep.
There wasn't a whole lot in there. Because it probably tastes like shit. Probably. Probably.
I'll stay 85. 82. Whenever I hear about a cigar that's blended to have two or more profiles in the same cigar, I immediately have two separate but equally important questions. First, is there a clear transition between the different profiles?
And second, do these transitions make the cigar better or worse? When it comes to the Mr. Punch Wieners, the answers to those questions are yes and absolutely, respectively. The profile starts out with fairly standard flavors of earth and oak, but right around the halfway point, everything changes as flavors of coffee, beans, and sourdough bread take over, along with a very interesting barbecue sweetness on the retro hill.
Give me a full cigar that tastes like a second half of a cigar and I would be a happy camper, but even with the less interesting profile in the first half, the Mr. Punch, the Punch Mr. Punch Wiener is a great addition to the series made up of memorable releases. So I liked it.
He's in love with it. Are you fucking kidding me? Did you hear all that? Brooks loves the wiener.
Apparently, it changes to a different cigar halfway through. Right. Yeah, I didn't catch that until the final thought. Brooks loves the wiener.
Brooks loves the vany wiener. I'm gonna go 88. Yeah, I was trending towards the 90s. Yeah?
Yeah. I'm gonna go 90. 87 boots should've stayed. Well, 88 I still would've won, even if he did 85 or 84.
Well, you were at 88, I thought maybe he would go as high as 87, and then he'd stop there. Well, he made it sound like this was his creme de la creme. " Right. It's still a punch.
Which? Right, but it's his favorite punch, I guess, is what it is, so. At the end of the day, it doesn't, yeah. Right, but it's still a punch.
That's like saying, it's the nicest Ford Pinto I've ever seen. Right. You know what I mean? It's still a Ford Pinto.
I got you. It's still a Pinto. Oh, God. All right.
Second cigar, from June 26, 2016, Mr. Charlie Minato. Two. It's a Padron 1926, series number 48, The Natural.
Very specific. Who's going first? You go first this time. I'll go 91.
That's a good number. I'm going to go 92. Before you read anything, if this doesn't get over a 90, this is absurd. It's the natural though.
It's not the Maduro. It's not the Maduro. It's the natural. I understand.
The Maduro should be like high 90s. And it's nine years ago. The Padron has never changed. Doesn't mean Charlie's tastes haven't.
No, they haven't changed, you're right, because he likes to wear the same thing all the time. All right, this is a 1926 series number 48 natural is from Nicaragua. I no longer have my mute thing on here, right? No, we didn't put that in anymore.
You got a sneeze? I'm going to need it again. Country of origin is Nicaragua. Factory Tabaco Cubacana.
Good. 5x60, it's a Robusto Gordo, back then it was $20 a stick, the release date is May 4th, 2016, number, let's see, Cigar Smoked 3. Even the price hasn't really changed by much. Okay.
I'm sorry, I'm sticking, Nanyuwa. This is going to be tough, because the bigger gauge, it's Charlie, it's natural, I think he likes natural over the Maduro. I'm going to pivot to 90. 90-91?
Yep. The Padrón 1926, number 48 begins with me wondering if I cut the cigar too much. I didn't, but the lack of resistance on the draw has me concerned. On a 60 gauge?
Lack of resistance, so it's like easy to pull? Yes. That's a Padrón, isn't it? Okay.
That's what you got. I'm sticking 91. All right. I'll go 90 still.
There is a mild spice blend through the nose, more of a sensation than a flavor, along with some dry pepper skin and raspberry on the tongue. I'm sorry. A dry pepper skin? Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Oh, God. You never had dry pepper skin before? Not with raspberry on my tongue. Sounds like a different Charlie.
Okay, what you got? Oh, that was it. That was the end. That was the clue.
Raspberry on the tongue, okay. Yes, dry pepper skin, raspberry on the tongue, period. 91. There's no change.
You wanted flavor profiles. This one's got flavor profiles. Yes. Horrible describing one.
I'm going to stick at 90. All right. While one sample avoids the tunneling, all three are plagued by a problematic draw. On a 60 He may have cut it wrong No he didn't Might have I got pepper skin And grass berries He never cuts it wrong I'm gonna go 88 He drops to the 80s It's a bold move I'm gonna stick 90 Okay 90, 88 Yep Alright Given just how good The 6x60 version Of the 1964 was I was interested in trying This gigantic version of the 1926 flavor wise it's a great representation of the blend however an extremely open draw and constant touching up torpedo that score a major torpedoes the score in a major way at 20 per cigar oh this must be the final thought already yeah all right at 20 per cigar construction issues aren't acceptable in my opinion but they become far more annoying when a cigar takes nearly three and a half hours to smoke.
Yes, I smoked slow, but even after 90 minutes, I was fairly over the 1926. Even with the flavor improving, no matter how good the cigar tastes, struggling to smoke it is never fun. That's it. That is it.
What are you doing? 86. Damn. I'm dropping.
That is a hard, that's hard because I was hoping you stayed 88 and I was I'm going to swoop in 87. Is it, does the cigar rank lower than 86? Man, I don't know. Ginger's cutting hair over there.
It tasted good, but it sucked for construction. What you said, it doesn't matter how good it tastes. I can't believe we reviewed a cigar for three hours. At what point do you give up and go, okay, I can score this now?
It's only been an hour and a half, but I'm good. Well, it was 20 bucks. Wasn't his 20 bucks. Oh, I thought they always buy this.
No, he pays for his own. Well, the company does, but it didn't like come out of his pocket, I meant. Because that was bottom line. Not like he made $20 less that way.
Does it go to 85? I don't know, sir, but you're running out of time. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. We're sorry sir, we're gonna need an answer.
Boots may win this one. I'm gonna go 87. And what did he go? 86.
76. Yes. 76. Wow, he fucking scored that low.
The construction problems really pissed Charlie off apparently. Yeah, on a padrone. Damn, I didn't think he'd go that low. But three hours, he's fed up.
But he said one was good, though. Not all of them were bad. Not all of them tunneled, but they all had burn issues. You think it's the size?
Look, it's hard to pinpoint Charlie. Charlie could just be having a bad day. I mean, who the fuck knows? Yeah, maybe, you know, lit it sideways or something and then, you know.
He could have just chose violence that day. Yeah, he could have been pissed off. Maybe his hair wasn't good that day. Yeah.
Maybe he's bipolar. Who knows? Yeah, probably. He got some ash on the hoodie and it pissed him off.
I like seeing Happy Charlie. Talking to Happy Charlie is awesome. I like Happy Charlie. Yeah, Angry Charlie.
He throws like these casual jabs at you and I'm like... He does. He's very... Because he's so smart, he can be mean with his words.
I'm like, is that supposed... Am I supposed to be offended? Smart. He is, he's very smart.
I know, but I like how you said he can be mean with his words. Right. Well, he knows how. I mean, it's a talent.
Yeah. He slides it in. I'm like, hey. That wasn't nice.
Yeah, hey, that hurt. Hey, dude. You're not in the group. You're not allowed to say that to me in your sweats.
Yeah, you're not allowed to say that to us. Only he can say that, and I can say that to him. You're supposed to be nice to me. Right.
We advertise on your little magazine-y thing. On your magazine thing. Did they ever put out a printed version? I don't think so.
It's always been online, has it? I think it's always been online. Not even back when it was called whatever it was over there before? Taste the Torch or something like that?
Stogie something. Stogie... Stogie... Stogie Press?
No, that's around now. That's Fred Rui's magazine. That's the other guy? That's Cigar Press.
Okay, then it was Dougie Press. Okay. But he had another partner. Go ahead, change the name.
The guy's reviews are there, too. But I don't feel it's fair, because you guys don't know who he is. No. That's okay.
You can throw it out there. I have one. You guys didn't do well, so I stopped doing him. Oh.
Who's the guy that lives here? Is that Brian? Yeah. I'm going to try to find a Brian next week.
Okay. Alright, anybody got anything else? So I just want to be clear here. I got a half a point.
Yes, you like transsexual movies. You got a half a point. Oh. For this week.
Perfect. We're in a tie this week. For this week. You finally.
Finally come out. Tied. Hey man. Even a broken clock is right twice a second.
I was about to say. Perfect. I was going to say that too. Every once in a while, blind squirrel still catches the nut.
Perfect. You know what I'm saying? Well, today is the nut day. Good job.
Today, Boot has his nuts. I had a moment of weakness. I should have won 85. And Joshua, hello, we love your clothes.
We love your clothes, Joshua. He's my friend now on Facebook. Yeah, on Facebook. I don't know who you might be watching.
You gotta have him call in. That's what we need to do. Oh, not a problem. The other guy's wages.
We wanna ask what happened with the attire on that day. Right, what happened that day. Yeah. And what's the purpose of the whole yada yada?
Education. Oh, the class. Oh, that's how I can get him. Tell him we wanna talk to him about the class.
Yeah, that's how I can get him. That's how I can get him. It's not like he listens. He's not gonna...
But he sees the shorts. Everybody sees the shorts. As is the rest of the world. The rest of the world.
5,000 people like Superman. That's Superman. Yeah, but you can't hit the fucking like button. Oh, you know how close we are to monetization?
We're very close. We're very close. Is anybody's stomach hurting? We're going to incorporate...
No. Anybody have to poop? No. I finished mine.
That's just the Waffle House, buddy. We're going to incorporate some more giveaways, too. Oh! Yeah, we'll have to do that moving forward.
Because we need to up our listening hours. Yes. We're so close. So everybody listen twice.
Yeah, just let it loop. Alcatraz. There you go, you guys turn it on. Yeah.
Turn it on, let it run. We don't care. If you guys would just let it play all day on your phone or something or on your computer. That would pretty much get us there.
We'd be done. We'd be done. We are so close. Well, Mick Smith is in.
Listener of the week. Listener of the week, Mr. Mikey, my brother's brother-in-law who is in the studio watching. Listener of the week, Mikey.
Hello, Mikey. There you go. He says hi. Hi.
Shop of the week. Who you got? m. Oh.
Excellent. All right, guys, thank you very much. We'll see you next week. All right, bye.
Bye, goodbye. buzzer podcast that one up
Show Notes
Coming up on today’s show — a South Korean superstar makes a major life announcement, some surprising shifts shake up the NFL, and there’s a brand-new cigar hitting the market that you’ll want to know about.