ACHP Episode 404 Jet Belly, Stern Shenanigans & NFL Shochers

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Green means go.

All right, welcome to episode

404, Cigar Hustler podcast.

Oh, what did you you have gas

over there?

Oh God, ever feel like something

strange happens to your body?

At 30,000 feet will dig into the

phenomenon known as jet belly

and trust us, it's not just in

your head.

Plus, Howard Stern had the media

chasing its tail with a prank

for the ages.

NFL Week 1 brought fireworks

right out of the gate and Cigar

News California stirs the pot.

We have the info from our legal

reporter Jack Teranio.

New drops hit the shelves, and

we close out with the industry's

favorite game.

What's the score?

What is it?

7. 7 But first, this week Mikey

and I will be at the Vault in

Orlando.

The famous PDB conference has

begun today and we have the

inside track to all the going

ONS.

And Saturday I'll be at the

Escape Cigar, get the going ONS,

things that go on, the going

times.

The go ONS.

Go ONS.

This Saturday I'll be at the

Escape Cigar Lounge in Leesburg,

FL for Pastagna Cutting light

from 4:00 to 7:30 and then on

the 23rd I'll be at the Treasure

Coast Cigars in Vero Beach for

another Pastagna cutting light

from noon to three.

Upstairs is Cigar Hustler.

We're running a month long

Camacho event giving away a Halo

outdoor portable grill.

It's a nice griddle.

Griddle.

It's a griddle.

It's a nice griddle.

Yes, I want this griddle.

It's like a griddle grill.

Yes, it's nice.

I need this.

It has caster wheels, you can

move it.

I would like this griddle.

You sure you?

I'm sure you could win if you

want to if you.

Win the griddle.

Give me the griddle.

Hey Michael, how do I get some

of that nice chapter pod swag?

That is a great question, Mr.

Palmer, as always, thank you

very much.

What you want to do is go on to

chapter pod.com and check out

all of our T-shirt swag.

We just dropped the Don Juan

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It's our newest.

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Right now, for love of God, we

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They have to wait and.

Don Juan.

Make sure you like and subscribe

and comment below on this

episode.

We are going to be giving away a

postonia lighter this week.

Yeah, we're.

Going.

To mix it up and let me see who

our winner is of last week.

Let's see.

Here is the winner from last

week.

First giveaway is. 6789 we got

nine people.

Pick a number one through 9

Bootsy.

Boots.

No number.

OK, he's retarded.

Pick a number One through 9.

Palmer, 66, Boots 26 is.

I'm going to see you're an

eligible 1/2. 345.

Members of the staff are

employees.

We know who number six is.

I don't need.

I will contact them directly.

They're going to be very

excited.

Mr. Patrick Prater, our guy sent

me a nice e-mail this week.

Thank you very much for your

support, brother.

Appreciate everything you do for

us.

And of course, we're not going

to charge you for shipping when

you place two orders and one of

them has free shipping because

it's month club.

We will always do the right

thing bro and we appreciate you

dude.

Get away free shipping.

Well, he placed an order.

Just for him specifically.

So he was part of the whole

deal.

Like you ordered 2, no shipping.

No, so here's what he did.

He ordered it.

He's a month club guy, right,

right and then he placed an

order, right and he said, hey,

listen, just put it in on my

month club.

Oh, sorry, I placed I bought

this, but save you guys on the

shipping right, right.

So I handled the order.

So I said OK, well I'm going to

refund the shipping because he

gets free shipping on the month

club and he's like, hey, you

didn't have to do that.

It's very nice, but I, you know,

I was trying to do the.

Same thing the.

Least you can do, yeah.

So he showed us appreciation,

says that he loves the podcast.

Oh, thank you, Mr. Prater.

And you know what?

Now you got a Don Juan Nieves

shirt coming your way.

The first out ever.

Don Juan.

So he bought a shirt so we don't

even know his size.

You know he hasn't bought a

shirt yet.

No.

Oh I thought you said he bought

a shirt and you put in with

month club.

No month club and plus an online

order.

Yes.

Oh.

Sorry I was all shirt excited.

Please.

Excuse my friend.

Been a long day.

The town is back that way.

OK, let's go.

What are we getting into?

Bing bong.

Looks like Skip Martin.

Let's go.

Feeling gassy at 30,000 feet?

You're not flying solo.

Whether you're headed to

paradise or jetting off for

business, many passengers find

themselves battling a different

kind of turbulence when their

guts revolt mid air, leaving

them bloated, cramping and

desperate for solid ground.

So gassy.

To get see, that's why we knew

before to get to the bottom of

the phenomenon known as jet

belly.

The Post spoke to Doctor Brennan

Spiegel at UCLA, professor and

director of health services

research at Cedars Sinai, who

also broke down how to prevent

it from wrecking your next

flight.

So you fart on a plane is what

you're saying?

I fart on.

Yeah, I fart.

All the time.

Well, not domestic flights, but

international flights. 18 hours,

kind of hard not to.

So you fart on international,

not domestic.

Correct, I can I can wait for.

You cork it on domestic.

No, it just doesn't seem to

bother me as much.

Oh.

Man fuck that, I'm fucking

laying the RIP.

If it's gotta go, it's gotta go,

right?

No one can hear it.

Right, nobody can hear.

So they don't know unless you do

like a lean right?

Then they'll know it's you.

You imagine I'll have those

cushion smell on those

airplanes?

Well, I wouldn't put your face

near it.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but I mean if you have

kids and stuff, sometimes you

know, they lay get.

Your head out of there.

Yeah.

Well, that's part of childhood.

You.

Don't put their head in a

plastic bag.

No, they kind of suffocate.

Probably frowned upon.

Probably.

Yeah.

You know, So yeah, OK, I could.

I could understand.

That this is the thing.

This is the thing.

Yeah.

All right.

What is jet Belly and when does

it happen?

It's a nickname for the bloating

and cramping many people get on

airplanes at sea level.

Spiegel explained gravity pulls

air molecules tight to Earth,

keeping the atmosphere dense.

But as you climb higher the air

thins and pressure drops even

though air what?

Take me.

Higher Even though airplane

cabinet pressurized, they don't

fully match sea level, so your

intestines inflate a little,

said Spiegel, author of Pull.

How Gravity Shapes Your Body,

Studies the mind and Guides Our

health.

That means gases trapped in the

gut expand, almost like a sealed

sack bag puffing up mid flight,

he continued.

In 1969 study, researchers found

that the abdominal gas and 18

military men who agreed not to

fart during a simulated flight

more than quadrupled as the

altitude climbed from ground

level to like 30,000 feet.

For some, Spiegel said, the

experience is just mildly

uncomfortable.

At others, it can be downright

painful and even trigger a flare

up of colitis, a type of colon

inflammation that's.

That's so you go on the plane

and you say, listen, nobody

farts.

No.

No, they did a simulation for

the study.

And they said.

Yeah, nobody fart, but it wasn't

a plane ride, It was just a

pressurized container.

Oh, they put them in a like a

can, a big can, a big.

Like big can like where the

pressurizer when you get the

bends.

You know, I heard somebody do

this one time to go look at a

ship that was wrecked.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It wasn't good it.

Wasn't good that.

Didn't work out too well.

Either do you think that they.

Farted a lot?

Possibly, yeah, but we'll never

know.

Well, at least one big time.

Oh my God, that's cold.

OK.

All right, so here's the next

size.

How?

Here's one of his go to tricks

is something he calls the Jet

belly release.

Michael, I'll read the

instructions.

OK all the time.

All right, all right.

Place your hand about two to

three inches below your belly

button.

No.

Here, here, here.

OK, press gently but firmly.

Move my gut over, OK?

Start massaging toward the right

side in the direction of your

right to hip.

Bow and this is supposed to do

what make me fart It's.

Going to make you fart.

I don't need help farting.

Keep doing this to help milk gas

through the through the some

valve.

Well, apparently I don't have to

fart because.

Through a valve that would

probably.

Be keep going.

I'm boats come massage.

Come over here, give me those

big hands of yours.

We have ginger, right?

Here Ginger, Ginger, we need

assistance.

That's yeah, that hand, the

little gateway between the small

intestines and the colon,

Spiegel said.

Once air moves into the colon,

which has much more capacity,

can be released more easily.

You know, I got to be honest,

this is not a department in

which I struggle farting.

Yeah, just got to let it go.

And if I'm on a plane, I got

news.

For you, what are you doing in

the car all the time?

That's not.

True.

OK.

You're never in the car with me.

I'm always in the car with you.

You know what?

You're never driving with me

ever again.

How's that sound?

You take your own car.

OK.

You won't make it.

You'll crash.

I've seen you drive.

It's bash.

I only hit that thing that one

time.

Can you see at all when you

drive?

Not at night.

I can't take it at night,

especially during the rain.

I think like when the time

comes, you're going to need to

get like the Tesla or something.

Self driving car yeah, yeah,

yeah, I still want to self.

Drive, but you got to continue

to touch the steering wheel,

otherwise it won't.

Really.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can.

Just make sure you're awake.

You can just buy one of those

fidgeter things off of Amazon.

Is that how that is that work?

Yeah, it's what people use to

get through their jobs

sometimes.

So it moves the mouse, yeah.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

So they this is the thing.

It says you did not log out.

Yeah.

Yeah, so wait a second, hold on.

What do people do?

OK, if you're working from home,

OK, and they monitor to see if

you're still on because after

it's a title for a while, it

logs you out.

OK, so there's a thing you can

get to move your mouse.

No.

Yes, and you can collect your

80,000 a year who create.

That guy is a genius.

Oh, yeah, I like that.

There's somewhere you just use a

fan.

You're an oscillating fan,

right?

Put a stick in the front and

we'll get to your mouth.

So as the fan moves back and

forth, your mouse is going like

this.

I love that guy.

That's simple.

That's an.

Easy.

Whoever set that up, they never

put their pants on ever

throughout the day.

They announced it.

He had a lot of money because he

was faking out a lot of people.

There was a story a couple weeks

ago that they had a group of

people and they said come to

work with what you normally wear

from the waist down when we're

doing the Zoom calls and people

showed up in like bathing suits,

pyjamas.

Really.

No pants.

Like naked.

Well, they underwear.

In their undies.

I don't think they would've

taken a picture and put it up on

Newsweek or whatever it was,

yeah.

OK.

Now this guy would take a naked

picture.

Which guy?

Howard Stern is not leaving

SiriusXM, at least not now after

an elaborate prank.

What a relief.

Howard Stern pranks his fans in

the media Monday after leaving

his long time SiriusXM radio

show.

Bravo host Andy Cohen appeared

at the top of Stern's 7:00 AM

time slot, announcing that he

was taking over the channel and

rebranding it as Andy 100.

Why would it be Andy 100?

Because he's Andy Cohen.

Oh, that's and you said it's on

channel 100 and.

It's channel 100.

Multiple media outlets,

including CNBC, Variety and

Associated Press, published

reports that Stern was leaving

the radio network.

Howard Stern came back on the

air about 10 minutes later,

announcing that it was a hoax.

He criticized inaccurate reports

in the media about his his

employment status during the

summer hiatus, calling them bad

rumors.

The news briefly sent SiriusXM

shares down nearly 2% in pre

market trading before

rebounding.

That's not a lot. 2%.

Yeah, that's an average movement

day up or down to 3%.

But it's pre market trading pre

market.

So that's the fancy people.

Yeah, if you're special, you can

do the.

You do the pre market and the

post market right, but you can't

do the market market.

You can't do the market, market.

Well, they can do the market

market if they want to, but why

do that?

We can do it.

Before.

Yeah, we know.

I just do it before and after,

right?

Let you peons trade during the

normal times.

Right.

Yeah, and let the special people

lose a lot of money while they

gain a lot of money.

I feel like they don't lose a

lot of money.

Yeah, they know what they're

doing.

Yeah.

I'm sure they lose something.

So was that the end of the

story?

You can't.

The prank comes as a future with

SiriusXM remains unclear.

After signing A5 year deal in

2025, his contract's up.

Stern had previously said he

would address his future last

week, but pushed it back a week

to his Monday because of an

illness.

OK, so here's the real question.

Is anybody still watching Howard

Stern?

Well, I think it's a listen

because it's not serious.

Serious is serious.

A video.

Can you OK?

OK, hold on.

OK, so here's the real question.

Is anybody still listening to

Howard Stern?

Palmer.

I mean, I personally don't, but

I used.

To how many years when did you

stop?

Whenever he got off real radio

here at.

Local OK, so. 20 years ago you

decided something like that, yet

I I listen to the monsters every

morning.

OK.

And so when he went to Sirius,

you were done.

Yeah, because you got to pay,

you know, everybody knows I'm

cheap.

I don't know.

I'm paying for radio.

They're.

Frugal, you're not cheap.

You're frugal.

I'm cheap.

No, no, it's you got to.

OK.

Frugal, thank you.

Why pay for radio?

I mean, that seems silly.

Boots.

I don't think I ever listened to

Howard Stern on the radio.

Never listened to Howard Stern.

You had satellite radio in your

new truck.

On the on the radio, no, I've,

I've never listened to them on

the radio.

I've seen his TV show a couple

times.

For like oh when it was on E.

Yeah, yeah.

So that was when you were like

fucking 12.

But it was, yeah, it had to be

edited.

That was when you could see like

the the.

Everything was blurred out.

The blurred the pixels.

Pixelated the.

Pixel pixel Boo.

That's what you do is you're

like.

Watching the HBO as a kid and

it's pixelated.

You go, there's a boob.

No, this is yeah, but like this

is like you could see the

person, but the blanked out

boobs, Yeah.

I think, I think I've actually

seen more Howard Stern nowadays

on TikTok.

Not really.

That I've seen that I saw an E.

He's a Tik toker.

No, because I like to watch

videos of Beetlejuice.

That's old school.

That's old Howard Stern.

Yeah.

That's old school Howard Stern.

What about you, Ginger?

Do you watch Howard Stern back

in the day?

But not anymore.

So, OK, so it's safe to say with

the small data that we've

gathered here that.

Sampling small.

Sampling here that nobody really

watches Howard Stern listens.

I'm sorry listens to Howard

Stern anymore?

Not in this room.

No.

And this prank, it was a prank.

I mean, I don't think anybody

cared.

Well, his contract is up for

renewal, right?

And there's been rumblings that

he's that they're not going to

renew him, OK, because, or if

they are, they're going to make

a much cheaper offer because

he's paid some ungodly amount of

money.

He's never on anyways.

The guy's hardly does.

He does episodes like once or

twice a week or this.

Week.

He's not like, on five days a

week, no.

He's no longer on five days.

Do they play reruns?

I think they do.

They do the reruns.

Is that the way Sirius works?

Like Monday's a new show,

Tuesday's rerun, then he comes

back on Wednesday.

I think that's the way Howard

Stern runs.

Well, that's not the way all the

talk shows.

No, not all of them, but he's

king of media.

How many shows have we just Joe

Rogan?

Do I don't?

Know he does.

Yes, everyday.

New show everyday, yeah.

Yeah, that guy, he's the new

king of media, I would argue.

Right.

Yeah, OK.

So.

Wait, wait, Joe.

Well, I guess he has been an

actor.

He's not in that because king of

all media, because he was on

radio, he was on TV and he was

doing movies.

No, I just he has the most

viewership something when it

comes to general podcasts.

Yes, Yeah, that would be king of

podcasting.

It's media.

No, but when Howard Stern

claimed he was king of all

media, right?

It's because he did radio, he

did TV, and he did movies.

Is that why?

Yes, he covered all the medias.

Well, Joe does sports.

Yeah.

Does he cover MMA?

No, but that would be TV.

OK, so.

So if he is on TV then yes and

he has done movies.

And he was a fear.

He was fear factor, right?

Yeah, TV.

Show and he smokes cigars.

News.

Radio, yes.

Was that the one he was on?

I knew he was on some TV.

News Radio.

He was on News Radio, right?

Who's that Stern Joe?

Rogan or Joe Rogan?

Joe Rogan.

No no.

OK, Stern did that stupid movie.

Private parts.

Yeah, about his life.

I thought it was good.

I thought it was I didn't enjoy

it.

Back in the day, I thought it

was good.

It was on par with like airheads

and stuff.

I loved airheads.

Yeah, Airheads is great.

Oh, and another reason why I

didn't like it.

I don't like that movie either.

OK, So if they didn't renew him?

Yeah, so that was a joke.

So Andy Cohen has replaced him

because we're not renewing the

contract.

Well, at the end of the show,

they went liar.

Here I am.

What do you do?

You think Andy Cohen is at the

same level of Howard?

Stern.

Not even close.

No, no, no, no.

He's only big with what, women?

Like Howard Stern in his prime,

because, I mean, Howard Stern

now we've kind of determined

isn't really.

Relevant.

He doesn't look bad in the

photos I saw today.

I mean, he's worth 75 bajillion

dollars, right?

Yeah.

So he probably gets a blood

transfusion with the babies.

And all these stuff, allegedly

just the children, allegedly,

you know, takes the blood from

his younger wife.

Yeah, no, I mean, I always liked

him.

I always thought it was good.

But eventually it just kind of

faded away.

He pushed the envelope back in

the day.

Yeah, he did.

Now everybody cusses and swears

and shows boots.

Yeah, look at this.

You know what I mean?

We're just right.

Yeah.

Who?

Are we?

Who are we?

Who are we we?

Don't have his money.

OK, so.

Yeah, with that, that's true.

So we don't have the money for

the guy that cuts Joe Rogan's

grass.

I mean we don't even have the

money for money for any of the

people that are like if there

was a guy that edits the audio

for Howard Stern, he makes like

10X US.

Oh, he made. 4.

OK, but if he didn't, if he

didn't sign a contract to renew

a Sirius, right?

What do you think Howard Stern

would do?

Retire.

Retire.

He would retire.

Just be done.

Travel enjoy all my bajillions

of dollars and my younger blonde

wife Travel bajillion.

Wife.

Maybe write another book?

Yeah, if I did it.

Oh, that was OJ.

Which made a lot of money.

Yeah, his book made a lot of

money, Did it?

You do a tell all of the all the

interviews that you've done who

was an asshole, who wasn't.

Like a whole who would you, But

where would what platform would

it be on?

In a book.

Oh, a book.

Yeah, it was like a hardback.

He'd write a book.

Well, it could be a book on

tape.

OK, what do?

What do you think he would do,

Boots?

Howard Stern.

Yeah, if he if he didn't renew

his contract with Sirius.

Yeah, he'd probably enjoy life.

I mean, the guy's got to be

coming towards the end.

He's got to be in the 70s,

right?

Ouch, you think the 70s are the

end?

No, but I'm just saying like,

OK, if you're in your 70s.

Palmer, I got some news for you.

At most I got 11 good years

left.

At most you got, you know, 15

years, right?

1520 years maybe?

85.

Well, not if he's transfusion,

the blood from the baby's blood

transfusions.

But still though, I mean, yeah,

I mean you get to a point.

I don't know man.

I I got to be honest, if I got

to that age and that point, I

wouldn't want to not work.

Well, me personally, I don't

think I would either.

And but this is a guy that's

been doing this for 100 years at

this point.

If I had a bajillions of dollars

and maybe.

But I don't know.

I could definitely find.

Someone to do it.

I got to be honest, this is

going to sound crazy.

This is going to sound crazy,

I'm sure, right?

If I had to hit that Powerball

right, I would still want to do

the podcast.

Well, yeah, but we would do it

in a better.

Place, but we would still do it.

We would have.

Well, I would top top notch.

Well, I have to because I didn't

win the Powerball.

Yeah, you're still working.

I'm still working working except

now I get paid.

I'm not giving you my money.

Now your money you're paying me

that's.

Crazy.

Oh well, then I I retire.

You're still doing it for free.

Wait a minute.

My Powerball earnings has

nothing to do with your work at

pay.

It's not fair get to take my

money.

It's ridiculous.

If I had one, I would pay you.

Well, that's very thoughtful.

You're a better person than I

am.

What about?

But I'm not.

Gonna pay Boots and Ginger

though.

I gotta draw the line, yeah.

That's ridiculous.

Can't pay Ginger even though he

does drop some.

Fun.

He's like our Baba Booey now.

Yeah, it's like what?

Do you do?

We're going to Howard Stern

model.

Yeah, Howard Stern model.

Tickle me racist.

You're you're Howard.

I'm Robin Quivers.

He's Baba Booey.

No, he would have to be Baba

Booey.

Bubble Booey.

Oh, he can be.

What?

What was the guy you said you

liked to watch Beetlejuice.

Yeah.

Beetlejuice.

Beetlejuice.

Right man, Beetlejuice.

I don't think that's nice.

You shouldn't.

Be no, it'd be more like Retard

Ronnie or whatever that guy's

name was.

No, Steve is actually Steve.

Yeah, Retard Steve.

You know who you would be,

Artie.

Do you remember Artie?

Lange.

Yeah, that.

I couldn't think of his name.

I picked her.

His face.

Yeah, he would be Artie Lange,

all right.

OK.

Well, congratulations, Howard

and.

Well, he still hasn't got.

A You pranked us.

But he's still working.

Right.

I mean, if he's only working one

day a week, now that's just, you

know, small steps every.

Time I'm showing up to work, but

we let you go a month ago.

I'm.

I'm here, yeah.

I'm busy, I got free time do

this.

My car might drive it's own

self.

Car shows up here every day.

OK, going on.

All right, Week 1 of 2025 NFL

season opened with thrilling

finishes, impressive debuts, and

a few early surprises.

Wow.

Wow.

Did the Bills stunned the Ravens

and I'm still reading the Bills?

I wonder this nice little intro

thing here.

You won't let me read it.

I'm sorry.

The Bills stunned the Ravens in

her dramatic comeback, Aaron

Rodgers delivered his Steelers

debut against The Jets, and

Daniel Jones made an immediate

impact on the Colts.

Here are the key highlights from

around the league.

OK, we're going to break these

down one step at a time.

Don't worry.

We're going to save the best of

our last boots.

First starters.

First starters, Buffalo Bills,

Baltimore.

Oh my God.

Did you watch this?

Yeah.

Did you watch this game?

Yeah, we did.

Absolutely.

Incredible.

You know what I don't?

Care.

We're going to talk about it.

We you, you've done your job.

I got, I got something to say.

All you Buffalo Bill fans and

fucking Josh Allen.

Only pussies fucking kneel the

ball with a minute and 45.

Seconds.

Hold on, hold on.

You're getting ahead of

yourself.

No, I'm not.

You just relax.

Let's first, first and foremost,

Josh Allen's probably the

greatest quarterback in the

league.

Some of those throws, the way

that he controlled the way that

he controlled his offense was

wait, what are you going to say?

2 is bro, come on, give me a

break.

I.

Think Lamar Jackson is

definitely better than?

Oh, then why didn't he win?

Because Josh Allen.

Is a better quarterback?

Was Neely he got?

Look bro.

We're not at that part yet.

We are not at that part yet.

He's he proved why he was MVP.

He he was down 15 points.

They went down and they won the

game.

Now, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa.

Let's relax.

OK, I will say this.

I can't see Buffalo winning the

Super Bowl.

And the reason why Mr. Boots is

because of the fact that the

coach dictated that last minute

and 45 when they should have

went for the touchdown.

Did it did it work out?

Yes.

Did they win?

Yes.

Would that work in post season?

I don't know, man, I don't know.

I don't think it would ever work

in the regular season another

game again.

It worked there.

Yeah, there.

But you don't have your best

kicker, right?

He's not playing.

You have some guy you just

signed what, fucking 4-5 days

before this game?

Who's a Florida guy by the?

Way.

Yeah, well, that's great.

But we're talking about Father

Time came back to kick a fucking

ball for you. 41, yeah.

Right.

And it's not just a chip shot.

Gives me hope.

It was a long kick.

It wasn't super long.

It was, what, 44?

Like a 40 yarder.

Yeah, I mean, that's that's not

a chip shot.

It's decent.

Have you seen any of the college

games that just happened this

past week too?

They were missing them all

fucking day.

Were they?

Yeah.

And then wasn't there?

What?

What was the NFL?

Game, I want to bring it back.

We're going to stay on NFL since

we got other things to talk

about.

Anyways, I'm a little heated

because I had some money riding

on Knox.

I need five more yards from this

guy and fucking Josh Allen goes

down kneeling left and right

here.

Yeah, look, I don't think that

that was the right approach to

win the game.

No, I don't think so.

And like, and that shows the

lack of kind of swag that's

going to be needed to win

championships.

And I've been saying that for

the longest time about Buffalo.

And you know, I think that's the

problem with their coach, their

coach needs.

To yeah, McDermott.

Yeah, McDermott.

Yeah.

All right.

Were you talking about Aaron

Rodgers?

Is that the next one?

OK, Aaron Rodgers, The guy

delivered in Pittsburgh.

He he did it for first game. 4

touchdowns, Pretty impressive.

Yeah, I'll, I'll give him the

first game.

He did a lot better than last

season.

Yeah, exactly.

He did terrible last year.

Now, the bigger highlight for me

out of that game was The Jets.

Yeah, Justin Fields look great.

The Jets did amazing.

They lost the game.

They still looked incredible.

They put up 32 points against

Pittsburgh.

That's incredible.

Did The Jets make the right move

by getting Aaron, getting rid of

Aaron Rodgers?

I think the answer is yes.

He didn't.

He doesn't fit into that system.

Obviously Justin Fields is a

better fit.

So I don't disagree with, you

know, kudos to Aaron Rodgers for

lighting it up.

He looked great.

And kudos to to The Jets for

doing all the things that they

did, because I always usually

have jokes about about The Jets,

but I don't have jokes this

week.

You can't.

You can't Week 1.

Yeah, no, not with 32 against

Pitt.

And now my friend, my dear

Dolphin friend, let me start by

saying I believe two weeks ago I

made a comment in regards to A1

Daniel Jones and I told you that

this man is going to be a

sleeper in fantasy football, the

guy produced.

It will never happen again.

He scored every single drive.

Because the Dolphins weren't

even playing.

They were playing.

I mean, they were in the

stadium.

They were there.

Somebody should have informed

them that they were playing.

Mike McDaniels is got to be by

far the worst head coach in the

league, and you're finally

starting to see that.

Look, vaping on the sidelines

does not pay off.

Yeah, I don't know what he was

doing.

It was, it was a horrible game.

I love too.

And just I mean, some of those

throws went right to the Colts.

I mean, I'm like, Nope, that

guy's in in dark blue.

Shouldn't have thrown to him.

It looked like they hadn't

practiced.

Right.

How do you feel about that?

I don't feel anything.

That's why I didn't bet on the

game.

I didn't do anything with it.

Do you think the Dolphins win a

game this season?

Yeah.

You do.

Yes.

I don't.

I don't know if they're going to

win a game.

OK, with that performance, you

think they're going to win a

game?

Did they score?

Yeah, they scored.

They didn't get shut up.

What was the final score?

A change scored.

What was the final score of that

game?

I.

Think it was 1030 something.

1030 something. 10 to 30

something.

Ginger, what was the score of

that game?

Thank you, dude.

They're a mess.

They they have no defense 33 to

833 to 8 eight bro, that's not

good it.

Wasn't a shout out.

You should have never fired

Flores.

Should have never fired Flores.

He's a better coach because he

had a better team.

He had better systems, he had

better culture, better policies.

All right.

Well, red circle, Michelle

Schwerty.

Dude, what are you doing over

there?

Kelly called again.

Just tell him that you're text

them that you're podcasting.

I just did.

Hey, I'm podcasting.

OK, While we're waiting for

Palmer to respond to that text,

let's let's How many games do

you honestly think the the

Dolphins are going to win this

season?

I mean, I think there'll be over

500. 500 Yeah, All right.

What's the wager?

Over 500.

Yeah, 500's the line.

I'll buy you a Postania if you

win.

No, I'm not playing that game

because you can just give me a

Postania if I win.

I bought all the postanas.

No, I know.

I have.

There's no.

Actual money out of your

pockets.

What are you saying?

Right.

Well, the money's already.

Alright, let's do a dollar each.

Let's just make it easy.

Let's do what, $1.00?

1.

Dollar $1.00.

No, I want you to.

I want you to wear a mask or

something.

I want you to.

Bring I'm not wearing a mask

anymore.

It's not that camera.

Why is it?

What do you want to wear?

He's wearing a mask.

He's wearing a mask right now.

We'll.

Bring the mask, we'll bring the

camera over to him.

Thanks for batting for me,

Palmer.

He's got that mask on.

He looks ridiculous.

Thank you.

OK.

Oh, I'm sorry, that's.

All right, so listen, that's the

bet.

We're going to figure out what

the wager is.

Does that sound fair?

No, you can't do that.

I think a dollar within the next

week he.

Loses and you go OK, The bet was

you have to shave your head and

put your pants on your head.

Hey.

Comment in the YouTube page

What?

You think, no, we're not letting

any of these people make

anything?

Make it.

Something He's getting a sex

change.

Make it something reasonable.

It's got to be reasonable going.

To Germany going.

To Germany going.

To Germany.

Call back.

Excellent.

That's nice.

And we'll figure out what the

wages should be.

All right, moving on.

I'm fast forwarding through the

sports.

Well, we covered it.

I know that's what I'm fast

forwarding through because I

have nothing to say.

You got a nice all.

Right.

Why are you fast forwarding?

I got, I got a public service

announcement about Burger King.

Oh my.

God, oh geez, me and Ginge went

there for lunch today.

OK, first when we get there, I'm

like, oh man, you know, I really

want to go to Burger King.

We passed Culver's checkers all

the all the way.

Better places than Burger King,

right?

We get to Burger King.

I really want this Rodeo

cheeseburger.

OK, this already sounds like a.

Disaster.

We order.

We're we're first in line, by

the way, we're first in line.

First in line.

The lady takes her order,

doesn't know how to take the

order.

OK.

And then after she takes the

order, right?

We then waited for what, 25

minutes?

30 minutes.

In the drive through.

No, inside.

We went inside.

Oh, I would have had a fit in 25

minutes.

Dude, it took.

I was able because because we

were doing demo work tonight, I

was able to go in the bathroom

and wash my whole body.

I did a bathroom bath.

Oh, Quadado, Yeah.

Quadado, Quadado.

Came back out, still waiting.

I'm like just so anyways, after

we get it, have you guys had

Burger King in a while?

No.

I have sometimes it's just nice

for a change.

Have you ever gotten just like a

regular cheeseburger or anything

off the dollar menu?

No, probably.

Not OK, so I got a rodeo

cheeseburger off the dollar

menu.

Because you're losing me.

Yeah, no, and a regular bacon

cheeseburger.

When they came to me, I pulled

them out of the bag.

They look like sliders.

Oh, they're getting smaller.

Yeah, and it's not a dollar

anymore, right?

They're like 280 something.

They're like almost 3 bucks.

Well that's why.

Damn, when the price goes up the

food size goes down to.

Asian buddy.

Yeah.

We're in a recession.

You know what, Burger King?

I'm fucking done with you.

Oh my God.

I have batted with you forever.

No more.

He went out of his way.

Ginger has a photo he's coming

around to show you he.

Went out of his way to announce

that on the podcast.

He did don't.

Eat.

I was just trying to fill.

Tell me why.

He's Fast forward.

Allegedly, Burger King has

shrunk down the portions of

their food.

Yeah, OK.

All right, all right, boys and

girls, it's time for the cigar

news, the stuff everybody's

whispering about, what we're

going to say out loud, new

drops, bold moves and who's

shaking things up in the

industry.

We cut through the fluff and

give it to you straight.

How it should?

Be all right, Mike.

We've been talking about this

California law for the last

couple of weeks.

We have the Espinoza people met

with their lawyer last week and

we have some information from

Jack Terano.

Do you want to call him from

your phone?

Am I connected?

I don't know I will unconnect

because I need to anyway because

I keep getting a call.

'Cause you're, you're kind of a

big deal.

Doo Doo Doo.

So they have spoke with their

lawyer, yes, yeah, 'cause this

is a big deal.

It is.

Are you connecting?

I'm trying.

I have to unconnect.

It says I'm not connected

because you're connected.

All right, try now.

I'm not now you.

Want to push button.

Hold on, I'm connected.

You're connected.

All right, let's try this again,

Quidao.

Hello.

Jack.

Hello.

Hello, Jack.

Jack Teranio of of Espinoza

cigars.

How are you, Sir?

You're having a little danger

mood right now.

But it's crazy.

So it's weird.

It's like we've had this

conversation before, but who

knows it is.

Yeah.

So hey, we were talking on the

Patreon about the California law

that's about to be passed, and

we heard that you have like

attorneys and you guys are

really fancy.

So we wanted you to go ahead and

check in and tell us exactly

what is going on in California

against the cigar industry.

Yes.

California's 100% I, I don't

think they want cigars there.

So we are, we're battling that

new what, what's, what's it

called?

Listen.

To that race, you hear that?

What the hell is always going on

with you?

Jack that's.

Race.

Jacks of the.

Bathroom.

It's the California unflavored

tobacco list, the UTL.

Yeah, but the the bill is bill

whatever.

AB119 or something like that.

I get you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, AB whatever.

And it and it calls for it

wasn't enough to ban flavored

cigars.

Now there is a non flavored

tobacco list that you, if you

want to sell cigars in

California have to be on that

list.

And it defines premium cigars in

a way that we all are fine with

except for one line must

wholesale for at least $12.00.

And if that's the case, then it

eliminates 8090% of cigars that

are on shelves.

Got it.

So we're trying to get, we're

trying to get clarity on, on

what they what they considered a

$12.00 wholesale.

Are they including those 54% tax

that they have?

Are they, you know, even then it

would, it would be hard for the

to get to there.

So it's reverse of skew that you

want to sell the first year 150

every year thereafter and a box

of cigars for their enjoyment.

I don't I don't know for them to

they have.

To.

Smoke over and approve.

So it's a it's a pricey, you

know, listen, I I don't know

what generals of the world is

the Alpadas of the world and and

the the point days and, and

those people are going to do.

But I, I know that it, you know,

for boutiques you're looking at,

you know, depending on how much

you want to register, you're

looking for five to $20,000.

So for three, so in.

Reality.

There's not a lot of business in

California.

Right.

Are the juices and words so?

There's a million options that

we are looking at.

I mean, I can't, I can't tell

you what others are looking at.

I know I've talked to a lot of

other manufacturers and national

sales directors and, and to get

kind of an idea of what they're

doing and they're still in the

dark.

They're still kind of trying to

weed through the the the the

high grass here and figure shit

out.

OK.

So it's $300.

That's where it stands right

now.

The 45 day window opened August

25th and we're going to wait

until as close to the end as

possible to decide what we're

going to do.

And the worst thing about it is

all the cigars that we have

currently sitting on shelves in

California, If we don't register

them, they can't be sold.

They have to throw them away or

hide them in a backroom.

I I don't know.

Wow, OK.

So are you guys there?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm trying to talk this.

Whole been here the whole time

I'm talking to myself.

No, no.

Can you hear us?

Hello.

Are we back at that?

Hello.

Oh my God, I can't hear.

You, I think Jack's messing with

us.

You can hear me.

I can't hear.

You Why does this happen to him?

Funny joke, Jack.

It's.

The Storm.

Another glitch.

How's it?

Going this is what?

All right, guys.

Well, at least we.

Get back if you want.

We got the information OK.

I'm going to call him.

This is what happens when you

make phone calls in the

bathroom.

Maybe he needs a new phone.

He's not going to answer is

that?

Right, I tried speaking several

times to you and you just kept

mowing me over.

Can you hear me now?

I now I can hear you.

I couldn't hear a thing.

It's got to be used.

There was so much silence that I

was like, can you guys even hear

me?

And then that's what.

It we heard everywhere.

So just to quickly kind of

surmise here, it's $300 per

cigar.

Oh.

You're gone again.

Just so you know, you're gone

again.

Oh my God.

And it's not my phone, but

you're gone again.

I can't hear upping.

It's just the surmise.

I don't know surmise without me.

I guess I don't know what to

tell you, but.

I'll answer your questions,

Michael, go ahead.

Are you on the Wi-Fi?

Yes, take the Wi-Fi off.

The Wi-Fi down here is horrible.

Yeah.

OK.

So just the surmise, it's $300

per skew, not per blend, right?

And you have to send a box of

cigars.

It's to somebody in California

at random.

Doesn't matter who, just send it

right?

Yeah, Tony.

So so earlier when when we spoke

earlier, yes, remember I told

you that about sending a picture

and one cigar that.

Here's what I want you to do,

Jake.

Here's what I want you to do.

Act like we didn't talk before

that.

Way it's kind of fresh magic is

podcasting.

Yeah, yeah.

So.

So I have to send a box of

cigars to the state of

California, is that correct?

OK, OK, so some manufacturers

are thinking they can get away

with sending a picture of the

box and a cigar and.

Single cigar, yeah.

I just got the entire e-mail.

You know, after a certain time

today, let's say I received an

e-mail that spells out

everything and that is not

allowed.

I mean, if you sell a 20 LB box

of cigars, it needs to be that

box in the full glory of its

packaging field.

So how many skews do you have?

How many skews does Espinoza

have?

Probably 100 hundred and

something.

OK, at 300 a pull 30 grams.

No, we're not.

We're not coming anywhere near

that.

Yeah, but I mean we're.

But just our idea was robusto,

robusto Toro of every of every

size and that's still going to

cost us quite a bit.

Right.

But just to sort of paint a

picture if you did want to do

it, if you wanted to cover

everything that you've already

submitted into the state of

California and you want. 20 to

30 grand. 30GS plus a box.

Plus the boxes per.

Right, yeah and 12 months later,

15,000 more to keep it on the.

Shelf, right?

And then you gotta bless them

again with another 15K.

Well, yeah, they have a

registration fee, right?

We just no that is the

registration.

Fee.

The 300 is the registration.

OK.

Stay with the call booth.

Sorry, stay with the call.

Stay with us.

Stay with us.

He's still distraught about the

the the Dolphins of Miami.

Let's.

Not talk about that anyway.

He's not happy right now.

He really likes.

He's a huge Mike McDaniels fan.

The.

Dolphins played already.

Yeah, yeah, no.

There was a game.

They they they weren't.

Aware.

That is.

Awesome, he can't hear us right?

Jack, Don't let go, Jack.

I think McDaniel.

Don't let go.

Hey, we're.

Not calling him.

We'll love you forever, Jack.

We're not calling.

Him How does this happen to?

Him, I have no idea.

It only happens to him.

He made me disconnect my Wi-Fi

and fucking everything.

Maybe Jack's got like cricket or

something.

That Espinoza, Yeah, one of

those old guys phones.

Yeah.

Oh, the Obamacare.

Just has three buttons on it.

A picture of a doctor, picture

of a police and us and us, and a

picture of three idiots.

All right, so I can take the

headset back off.

Well, we got most of the

information we needed.

We got all the information out

of Jack.

We did.

And obviously they were thinking

only Robusto and Toro was a

little bit of the information,

but they're not gonna do the

whole thing.

Well, that's their plan of

attack as as of, right?

Now, right, Just make a a

smaller assortment.

But they're holding off.

I mean, but the the hard part

with that is if you have

retailers that have other

brands, I don't understand even

how you regulate that like, oh,

wait, let me see carry the one

came in.

Oh, looks like this one's not

under.

Our well, they, they'll

eventually have a list of all

these cigars that have been

cleared.

And then at some point

somebody's going to have to walk

into Uncle Earl's Cigar lounge

and go, all right, let me see,

you're humid over.

Here's the list, right?

Oh wait, this is a parejo.

We don't have that size on this

list.

That one's going in the trash.

Or he takes and puts it in his

trunk.

Or there's a fine.

Well, is it legal to give free

goods to the government?

It does say in the article that

I have that it's sent to the

state attorney General's office.

Got it.

This is where you send all the

cigars and the money.

This is so bad.

I just don't understand the

tribal mentality of anybody and

people that commit to following

some state's belief or political

beliefs or anything without

asking questions of does this

actually make sense?

And the problem here is that

cigar smokers are probably 1% of

the United States population.

So and of that, there's even a

smaller number that are premium

cigar smokers.

So but when other people don't

stand up and say, hey, you know

what, this isn't right.

This isn't, I don't do this, but

I don't think this is right.

You start losing your rights.

Right.

I mean, and they obviously don't

know what they're doing because

this has a wholesale price of

$12.00 or more.

Right.

Yeah, they don't have a clue.

No, they have no idea.

What they should have said is

retail.

That's probably what they meant,

but they don't know the words.

They're still still at retail.

I mean, there's still a lot of

cigars you can get that don't

cost $12.00.

Yeah, well, yeah.

Well, I hate, you know, another

thing is, is have you have Mikey

or Palmer?

Have you guys been able to talk

to any retailers in California

and what they will do?

I have.

Do we have a majority?

They don't know what to do.

Yeah, because there's no list.

Like you said, there's the Jack

said there's no grace period.

I mean, it could be at January

1st.

If you're not on the list, you

go in the trash of stuff they've

already bought.

Yeah, it's insanity.

Like if you're a big retailer,

like Small Batch is one of our

best customers and I love those

guys, man.

They're.

Yeah, they're great guys.

You know if.

Well, the bigger.

You would have to honestly like

at that point if you're a

retailer and you and you sell a

lot, you need to consider moving

to another state.

Yeah, that's what I said.

Like the big guys can do that,

the small guys can't.

Yeah, no, the Uncle Earl's cigar

Lounge people.

No, they can't.

So again, who gets crushed?

The small guy.

Small business gets crushed with

over regulation.

And there, I mean, there's no

way for them to police it.

But they're even saying like, if

we shipped somebody in

California and it's not on the

list, we could be fined, right?

But I mean, how they going to

know they're going to show me

somebody's house?

Somebody could tell.

What is it?

How could the state of

California?

Right.

I mean, you're not going.

To pay like wait, wait.

But no, you're a totally

different state.

It's called the United States.

Like you can't.

Well, you're I wasn't even

there.

Like good luck.

No, but you shipped product.

That's called a federal

violation.

Yeah, that's not a state.

Well then.

One state to another, you would

need the federal government

involved at that point and

they're not going to get.

Involved.

I don't I I'm just telling you

what they're saying, right?

I mean, there's no, there's no

way for them to go to the post

office and go.

We need all the boxes from Cigar

Hustler that go all over.

California you would need

warrants.

Right, they can't do that.

Yeah, you would need.

To Are they going to show up in

Mitch's house?

Knock, knock, knock.

Let's see your cigars.

I just don't understand it, it

doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't.

It's a obviously it's a ploy,

right, To try to get to.

Try to be the first tobacco free

statement.

Well, they won't be tobacco

free.

This is this is outlying cigars.

Well, after they get done

cigars.

I mean, they've already flavored

cigars.

You can't do.

I don't know what they are.

What about cigarettes?

But you can smoke as much weed

as you want.

Yeah, you can smoke weed.

Just make it make sense.

That's all I'm saying, yeah.

But what about cigarettes?

Did they outlaw that in

California?

I have no idea.

I don't.

Not in the cigarette.

Has it?

Have they outlawed?

I'm not in the cigarette

industry.

Then to pouch.

So I don't it's still tobacco

product.

Yeah, but you don't smoke it, so

it doesn't offend me.

If you're smoking, it doesn't

hurt your second, it doesn't

hurt.

My but but you're saying that

the law generalized tobacco

products?

Well, I think it just could just

be, you know, step one of our

ten step program to become

tobacco free, make it easily

outlaw the Zen packs and stuff.

Listen, if you're not a cigar

smoker and you see that these

regulations are happening, just

because you don't like it

doesn't mean that it should be

removed.

So stand up for your rights.

Yeah.

How come the bigger companies of

like Cigar makers, brands,

whatever you're gonna call them

like let's say STG Switcher,

like the bigger guys, right,

Yeah.

How come they have not?

Well, I haven't seen any news

about those guys like on half

wheel or?

Anything.

Well, Joshua Liburski's working

on PCA.

Well, yeah, that's PCA.

I understand that because that's

their job, right?

But I mean the bigger companies

like why are why is there no

news about them moving anything?

They got too many meetings bro.

They're probably in a meeting

for the.

Meeting.

They're in a meeting to figure

out how they can do this.

They're thinking we have till

January, so plenty of time.

Well, I mean Espinosa is not a

super small company or anything.

They're.

No, they're just medium, medium

sized.

Yeah, so they're saying that

it's just not worth it.

They don't make enough money in

California, right to do it.

So maybe that's what the other

companies are doing too.

Yeah, well, like you said, think

about General how many

cigarettes would they have?

They'd have to do.

I mean, it's just ridiculous.

Yeah, crazy.

OK.

All right.

Moving on.

Yep.

My father and Tatwa Hay's La

Union Red humidor shipping in

late September after showing it

off at the 2023 PCA Convention,

a trade show.

It appears that the time has

come for My Father's Cigars and

Tatwa Hay to release the LA

Union Red humidor.

What do you think Michael?

This is the second of the

two-part release as

collaboration between the two

companies.

While my father produces all of

Tatwa Hey Cigars for this

project, Pete Johnson of Tetoi

blended 2 cigars for my father

while the Garcia family blended

2 cigars for Tetoi.

Your father, is that right,

Cigars?

The first two cigars were

released in February 2024.

The company shipped the LA Union

Black Humidor.

While the black humidor and red

humidor share many of these same

details, the cigars inside are

different.

Are you how they're different,

Michael?

Are you going to his chair when

I dress?

Yeah.

Great for the red emondor.

The DWAI Cigar here The Whole

Time, which has a covered foot,

uses an Ecuador and Sumatra seed

wrapper over a Nikki Ragwan

binder and filler, while the My

Father Blend uses a Connecticut

Broadleaf wrapper of undisclosed

origin over a Nikki Ragwan

binder and filler.

And he keeps saying like that

you're gonna get locked, y'all.

Both cigars come in a 7 and a

quarter by 50 ventola that uses

a one O 9 style head.

Michael, what is the one O 9

style head?

The one O 9 style head is like a

Bellicoso but it's a little more

rounded.

What is a one O 8 style?

Bless you.

Well, there's a one O 8 style

head.

It's a totally different head.

Yeah.

It requires Lube, yeah.

With the vitola being referred

to as a prominent especial, the

Johnson Blended Cigar carries A

secondary band that says for my

father.

Well the Garcia Blended cigar

has a band that says.

Production is limited to 15,000

boxes which are described as

humidors with 300 of those boxes

designated for non-us market.

Each box contains 20 of each

cigar as well as a Zycar Perfect

XI 1 cutter.

The cigars were created by two

pairs of rollers and bunchers

who were limited to creating 250

cigars per day.

Pricing is set at.

How many cigars?

20.

Thank you.

Yes.

You're incorrect, Sir.

You weren't paying attention.

It's two different types.

At 20, it's 40 cigars total.

Contains 20 of each cigar, so

that's right, there's 40 total

Boom.

Boom, let's see, 20.

Let's call it.

So it's 40 total.

Call it 25 a stick.

You mean 25 a stick?

It's he's guessing it's a.

Special, Yeah.

It's a special cigar.

Not all I don't know, maybe like

1000 bucks.

What do you got?

800. 800 he's terrible at this

game. $2400 per humidor. $2400.

Never smoking that.

American.

American.

Rather, buy a humidor of 50th.

For the Union Black Humor

release, which was released in

February 2024 and is pictured

above.

Not pictured above.

That's why I created a Nikki

Ragwan puro with Corojo 99

wrapper, while my father created

a cigar with an Ecuadorian

Habano wrapper, a top, a Nikki

Ragwan binder and filler. $60.00

a cigar.

Yeah, that's nuts.

For sumacho.

Oh, I don't have prices for that

one, I assume it's the same.

We had a distribution of that.

Is it my father or is it a?

Toy.

It doesn't say.

What I would gather is probably

my father.

You think it's my father?

Yeah.

Well, you I hear they're in the

same building, so there.

'D be one person I'd probably

know.

Who's that?

Pete Johnson?

No.

Pete Hernandez.

Pete Johnson.

Well, I'm sure Pete Johnson

would know, too.

Yeah, well, we there's no way

that Pete Johnson's going to

answer our phone call.

Does Pete know we're calling

again?

Does he know we're calling

again?

No, probably not.

No, this will be great too

because he's completely

unprepared.

He's not unprepared.

Let's call Peter Hernandez of

the twice the guys.

Oh excellent, we haven't spoken

to him in forever.

Yes, Sir.

Peter Hernandez, yeah.

You're on the Ponca, you're on

the.

Air, you're on the air.

You're the third caller.

Say the phrase of pace.

Oh my.

Oh my God, the phrase of pace.

Can I put on my pants?

Hey, so we're doing this.

We're, we're, we're covering

this article here and we're

talking, we're talking about the

LA Reunion cigar.

The red, the red one, the.

Red 1 and we the one I'm the.

One I don't do, the one I'm not

selling.

Oh, you're not?

Wow, I said to the fellas.

I said, You know who probably

know this?

He said.

Pete Johnson.

Pete Johnson.

But then I said Pete Hernandez.

So you're not, so you're not

selling it.

Do you know who's I'm?

Not telling you?

Yeah, the other guy.

His father is.

Joaquin.

Yeah, his father.

Yeah, his father.

It's not Pete, his dad is.

Joaquin.

Yeah, Joaquin, your guy.

Got to call Joaquin maximum

accessory.

Man, although I'm actually

texting with Pete Johnson now,

would you like me to ask him

something?

Yeah, ask him when it when is he

coming up for our private they

can do ask him when is he coming

up for our private event and we

would like some La Riun Youngs

am I?

Still on the air.

Yeah, you're still on the air.

Oh, oh, we lost them.

It's your phone.

We lost them.

Hello, Pete.

Can you hear us, Pete?

Is he gone?

He's gone.

Pete, it's my phone.

It's my phone.

What happens?

You need a new phone.

Oh.

Damn it.

All right, hang up.

We got our answers.

Yeah, we, well, we just want to

know who sold it.

Right.

Well, suddenly Jack is off the

hook.

Ask him and ask him about our

private event at the end of the

year.

I hope it's an industry wide

joke on you and everybody you

call is just going to go.

I can't hear you.

Hello.

Hello.

Why do you think that's

happening?

No idea, don't know when we

called earlier we.

Didn't it's immunity?

Well, speaking to people that

nobody wants to talk to, I have

another story.

Oh yes, please tell.

All Saints announces

discontinuations and reduced

prices.

Wow, dear God.

All Saints Cigars has announced

a major restructuring of its

prices and products.

First, the company has

discontinued two of the six foot

tallest that it offers, so they

only have 4 left.

The 7 to 48 coach in the 4 1/2

by 44 Vesper.

In a phone conversation, All

Saints Co founder Mickey Pegg

Huge told Cigars Podcast that

there is no remaining stock of

either of the toll in any of the

company's lines, meaning

whatever is currently at

retailers is all the remains of

those cigars.

Man, I can't wait to hear this

guy call us and then us drop his

call. 2nd Second All Saints is

standardized available Vitola is

among its Dedicacion,

Dedicacion, Habano St.

Francis and Saint Francis

Colorado lines.

Each of the four lines will now

include the same 4 sizes.

And finally, All Saints has

lowered the price of those 4

vitola's with an average price

decrease of 14%.

The most significant reductions

were on the Colorado and Habano

Rabuso's, which saw the prices

cut by 23%.

Wow.

Regardless of the blend, the new

prices are and then there's a

list of them.

He's got a robusto, a Toro, the

huge while those are the passing

tariff cost to consumers, we're

taking a different approach and

Mickey pack in a press release.

We believe Premium cigar should

remain accessible and we're

willing to absorb these costs to

maintain our value proposition.

Our customer pro position our

customers expect.

He stated that the change took

effect on September 1st and

there is no change to the blends

in each line which are made at

the Taba Calera Villa, Cuba SA

and Estele, Nicaragua.

You know the Colorado's a good

cigar.

Yeah, it is.

In Saint Francis.

But this is all very

interesting.

Yeah, so he decreased them not

too long back too.

Right.

This is the second time, right?

So there's two price decreases.

Significant.

Price decreases, this one's

anyway, 23%, that's a big drop,

yeah. 23% OK so I love Mickey

Peg and I don't want to use them

as a punching bag.

No, I like Mickey.

Well, yeah, we all like Mickey.

But I do have some questions

here.

And something's just like

sometimes the math doesn't math,

right, right.

OK.

So like case in point, Postana,

like we received an allocation

and it had tariffs, but we still

have product as well that we

haven't sold entirely out of

stock yet, right.

So we decided at that point that

the tariffs would be absorbed on

this go round and we would do

our best to kind of keep prices

stagnant.

Right.

So.

Across the board you're talking

about.

Yeah, right.

So did he get product in with

the tariff?

Because if he did, the cost went

up.

I'm I'm sure he did.

No, I didn't 'cause he, I don't

think who's selling his stuff

now, if he even wanted who, Who

do you call?

Make you bet.

Yeah, but he's not answering the

phones and stuff.

Well, no one's getting.

It he's not out beating the, you

know, he's not out on the street

allegedly, he's not out trying

to sell the stuff.

So I would imagine what he's got

is in his warehouse or wherever

he keeps it.

His house.

So he hasn't got anything new

I'm saying I'm assuming.

Right.

OK.

So that would explain why he

doesn't have to raise his price

from tariffs, right?

So you're thinking just on a

recap, you're thinking that he

just has product from a while

back, no tariffs, Mikey, you're

thinking right.

I'm thinking also no tariffs

because it's not new product.

I mean, you're thinking that

it's.

I mean, he would have had to

have gotten it in in what, the

last 30 days, if even that long?

You're.

Thinking that it's God's gift

and it constantly sells out a

bit and he has to.

No, I I just think he's making

bad business decisions.

OK.

I think that that may be OK.

So if we're assuming with a two

to three vote here ratio that he

hasn't received new product and

he's reduced it twice.

Yes, here's my here's another

case in point.

I can't reduce the price of

Postonia.

No.

Because when I launched or when,

excuse me, when we launched

Postonia originally, we

determined what a fair price

would be for that price point,

right?

Right.

With the margin you needed to

run the business.

To be for the with the margin

for the business to be

successful, right?

Not Ferrari money, certainly,

no, just jet money, right,

right.

Just sustainability, growth,

reinvestment in the

organization, all of that,

right, right.

If I could never, ever look back

and say, you know what, we're

going to reduce our price

because I know how much money I

have into that cigar.

Sure.

And the margins are already low,

right?

And the cigar price is

competitive.

How pissed off would you be of a

retailer if you had this product

and then all of a sudden, boom,

it was reduced and then boom, it

was reduced again?

Well, does if it is reduced,

does that mean I have to reduce

my prices?

Not necessarily.

Well, well, if Mickey's release,

if, if, if Mikey releases a news

release and saying he's

decreasing prices, if people

read that right, let's say

consumers, they're going to go

well, why the hell is it still

the same price?

They said that it was decreasing

24% or whatever it was.

'Cause I paid the higher price.

Does the average consumer check

halfway low?

Some of them do, I think.

I think there are some, but I I

bring it up quite often because

of our high reviews and stuff.

Except for that, once I go and

most people are like, no, I've

never had what is.

It yeah, we're we're.

We're shop owners, right?

These are industry people.

But we're talking like box

buyers and people who follow

these.

Ginger, do you ever look at half

wheel?

Should we start invoicing half

wheel for the promotion?

That we do for them every time

we say.

Well, then they're going to

invoice us for all the news we

steal from them and then.

No, they're a news source we're

allowed to steal news from.

Them aren't we really?

Yeah.

We're not on news.

Source.

We honor the source.

We are a news source,

technically.

And we honor the source where we

got the source.

We are a news.

Source.

Well, we don't say according to

Half Wheel.

Sometimes we do.

I stopped doing it.

I got.

Tired.

No, you, you say, according to

Mike Palmer.

And then you say half wheel and

then you keep going.

Yeah.

Everybody knows at this point.

OK, so.

Coops the only one he gets mad.

So let's back up.

OK.

If you are a brand or a

manufacturer and you have the

ability to reduce your price and

then to reduce your price again,

it's safe to say that you charge

way too much Yes, for your cigar

off the jump.

Yeah, you're just showing your

hand.

Yeah.

Right, right.

And that's a terrible look.

Sure, but not only that, but

you're also pissing off all the

guys that bought from you, all

the retailers.

The people that originally

supported you, Yeah, that still

have your.

Problem I have a theory tell me.

I think he is slowly trying to

get out of the business.

Yeah, getting out by completely

destroying the name.

Yeah, but.

He's going to leave.

Who cares?

He's.

Liquidating.

Just liquidate it.

I got to find a price where this

stuff moves and I at least break

even.

Here's a way to look.

Or lose less money than I want

to lose.

That would make sense.

Here's a way to liquidate.

He could just sell all this

stuff to Cigar Page or any of

those Cigar bid, any of those

guys, right?

Maybe he's tried.

Yeah, he's trying to has it his

his brand does not have the

cachet that it once did.

Or you just take all the bands

off and sell them to Brian

Descent.

That's more work I'd make Brian

Descent take the bands off.

OK, give them to him at a

discount.

I'm out.

Brian's going to want to pay 250

a stick.

OK, well, what does Mickey care?

Well, because he's not going.

To sell him a 250.

He's not sell him.

He's not at the 250 price yet.

And if he tells you this is what

he's doing, then the shops

aren't going to buy.

Well, I don't want to buy a

dying brand, right?

I'm not buying it.

But.

This.

Is all theoretical?

I can get this at 23% off.

But my question is, is the price

decrease for retailers or is the

price decrease for his

wholesale?

Well, this is.

Wholesale, That's what I'm

saying.

I mean if if I own a shop and I

buy this at 23% off and most

people don't know then to sell

it at 23% off, I still sell it

at full price and then I make

more money.

Yeah, I don't know, man.

It's first of all, it's a bad

business decision by putting out

that high of a.

I don't think this is a long

term plan.

I think this is I got to get

out.

Yeah, but I think that you I but

I still agree with you, Boots I,

I think that it was a bad

approach.

If he wanted to clear it out

then he should have done like a

discount like.

He should do it without the

pressure.

If it if it was a 20% if he

wants to run a 20% discount then

he should have done like a buy 5

get one.

Yeah, like a holiday special or

whatever.

Hey, if you buy five of these,

you're going to get one free,

right?

You know, or if you want to make

it a little bit deeper at that

point, buy 5, get 2, right,

something right.

That would be smarter.

And then I would have protected

the integrity of the price point

and and he wouldn't have come

out and made all these comments,

right.

So, but either way, man, we wish

the best for Mickey.

We want we want him to to do

well.

So.

Sign back up for the Patreon

Mickey.

So I hope that that just took

the one took the one Patreon

where he didn't use it.

You know what's funny is that

was vault the last year because

I had to call him during the

vault and have a.

Comment.

Was that a year ago?

For now, look.

At that.

Yeah, he's like, well, maybe you

guys don't like me.

I'm like, no, we actually do

like you.

But it just because we like you

doesn't mean we're not going to

be honest about our opinions.

If you want to come on and guest

host the show.

That would be crazy.

That would be funny.

That would be a good show.

Well, that would be crazy.

We'll take it at a 24% discount

We're.

Going to get, we're going to get

Pete Hernandez on here to to

coach.

Yes, we're going to get Pete.

Yeah, but he couldn't hear you

on the phone.

No, yeah.

Because apparently that's your

phone, yeah.

Is there a mute button over

there?

Boots hitting a mute.

Button.

Oh, it's not working.

Oh, it's so weird enough it's

not working.

Oh, guess what?

At the button.

At the button.

All right, Quesada's releasing

the Oktoberfest 2025 Munich this

month as a Canadian exclusive.

Can't wait.

A Canadian.

It's a Canadian cigar.

You can't get it.

Yeah, exactly.

So I can't wait.

Later this month, Quesada will

release the company's first

Oktoberfest vitola made

exclusively for the Canadian

market.

The Oktoberfest 2025 in Munich

is a 5 by 50 short perfecto

made-up of a Mexican San Andreas

wrapper covering a Dominican

binder and Dominican fillers.

This is the first time that the

company has used this vitola for

the line, which is an annual

limited edition release

specifically blended to be

paired with Marzan style.

Beer.

What's Marzan style beer boots?

It's German boots, yeah.

You know, like when you go over

to the club.

When you go to the bar.

Do they serve that there?

Do they serve that at the bar?

I don't know.

OK, so and like I was judged

that all right, so just so I

have this correct yes, German

named cigar yes, being being

released in Canada, yes, where I

can't where it has to be covered

by bands anyways.

Yes, you can't see it.

Sold by a Dominican company,

correct?

Not only is it covered by bands,

but it's got all that weird

warning labels on it probably.

That's what you.

Like the ears and the mouth and

everything, Yeah.

They may cause cancer, yeah.

They do that too.

Yeah, Jesus.

A total of 3000 cigars packaging

10 count bundles are being

released.

Pricing varies by provinces as

each one has its own tax

structure, but in Ontario, the

cigar is priced at Canadian

dollars.

Anybody.

Canadian dollars.

CAD CAD dollars.

I would say. 18 Canadian.

What did you say?

Boots 15/18/26.

Boom.

Or 1324.

Smokes in Canada. 1324 in

Freedom dollars. $13 in Freedom

price. 1818 even in America, $13

for a cassada.

Have you had a cassada?

I have.

Palmer, have you had a Casada?

I've had this actual cigar, not

the 25 you.

Smoked this one.

You had the Munich.

No, no, I have.

I've had other versions of the

Oktoberfest.

Were there hostages involved?

No, no, they were all released.

It was fine.

I just, I don't know man, I've

had one before, I just don't

like it.

What'd you think of it?

It was so long ago I don't

remember.

I believe actually Pete gave it

to me, to be honest with you.

He used to be he.

Used to do this brand.

You know, what's so funny is

that I was going to send this

video to Pete is there was a

video of me and you and we're

like, hey, Pete and Pete was

there and like, hey, what's

going on?

And we were talking.

It was an event.

What's what event we got going

on tonight?

And he's like, oh, we got

Dunbarton tonight.

We got.

All the brands he no longer.

Has all the brands that are all

gone.

We got HBC and we got it.

Oh and we got Aladino tonight.

I was like Oh my God, he was 3

for three on that one.

And loving memory.

Brokers got him rough man, I

swear to God.

Yeah, so sad.

Yeah, there's a list here of all

the different sizes that are

available.

Oh, they have the Uber 6565.

So they made.

So they made 300 bundles of 10.

Yeah, four of the Munich of the

Munich, yes.

The 5 by 50 perfecto.

Yes.

I mean, that's a good size.

They made 5000 cigars of each of

these seven different vitolas

do.

You think they missed Terence?

I think they all run around

flexing making fun of them going

like a man.

Flexy flexy flexy look I got on

khaki pants.

Aren't I cool?

Right.

It's a picture of them right

inside.

They've drawn horns on them.

They've drawn a little mustache

on his pictures.

Yeah, they make fun of them.

From the employee of the month

photos that he left.

You think that's what they draw

on people on the on the photos,

no.

No, he used to be their sales

manager.

Used to run Quesada or kind of

sort of whatever, something to

say, no, nobody did, you idiot.

I'm like, OK, whatever, thanks

for listening.

OK, So yeah, German, Canadian,

Dominican.

We'll never see it again.

Well, there, there's like 9

different vitolas available in

the United States, but you know,

just that one.

Let's call on John Mactavish to

send us through.

I don't, I don't think, I just

don't understand why you would

make a exclusive cigar.

Yeah, for Canada.

It makes some sense.

When?

They're less cigar friendly than

California.

They're I mean, they should

almost merge.

We should give we should either

a we should just give them

California.

Oh, that.

'D be great, I.

Think that's a better move?

It's.

Almost connected.

We just got to go around what

Wyoming weather up there in the

corner, whatever that Montana, I

don't know what's in the corner.

Washington.

Is that Washington?

Yeah, top, top left.

Got you.

I was so close.

Yeah.

National sales manager,

everybody.

Doesn't mean I have to know the

map.

What's that?

Is that?

Hey Black Works Tiger Hours

shipping next week.

Black works.

Black Works Black Works Studio

says a bigger, bolder version of

its Tiger is heading to stores

next week.

It's called Tiger hours 5 1/2 by

48 parejo that uses three

different wrappers broadly from

both Connecticut and

Pennsylvania, as well as a green

candela over an Ecuadorian

binder and fillers from

Nicaragua.

Each cigar is an MMSRP of.

Anybody.

These are American dollars. 13

No.

No, it's got to be higher.

It's a big cigar. 14 I'm going

to say, you know what I'm going

to roll with, I'm going to roll

with 1818 seems to work. $19.00

Production is limited to 850

boxes of 15 cigars.

Over the past decade, the Tiger

series has helped define what

Black Work studio cigars are all

about, says James Brown,

godfather of Soul.

James Brown.

Yes, Godfather of Soul.

No, the shoe master.

We call him the Shoe Shoe

Master.

Do you see his shoes?

Yes, I saw creator of Black

Label Trading Company in a press

release.

To celebrate the 10 year

anniversary, we're introducing

our first limited Tiger release.

The Tiger began as a factory

exclusive cigar in Nikki Ragua

and later became event only

Black Work Studios.

It was a sub brand within the

Black Label Trading Company

portfolio.

Often times showing off creative

looking cigars.

In this case the cigars have 3

rappers.

Company says cigars will begin

shipping next week.

In addition they will be showing

off at the Inner to Back 2025

trade fair which takes place

September 18th to 20th in

Dortmund, Germany.

Just fifty boxes have been

allocated for European markets.

It looks like the Tiger Lily,

but it is.

I think it's like a Maduro.

Darker.

Well, Connecticut broadleaf and

Pennsylvania broadleaf are going

to be darker.

In an unrelated story, Posting

Cigars will like to announce the

release of the Carol

Bashkinosaurus.

Yes, a similar cigar, but not

the same thing.

Not the same as the Carol bash.

No, it is a Ecuadorian

Connecticut and a Pennsylvania

broadleaf.

Yeah.

Rap, seems like you.

Haven't.

Come on, shoot it.

Shoot it, we're go.

You haven't worked the story.

It's all in the we're just now.

Releasing the press, just

formulating the details.

Yes, details to come later.

Triple bar we.

Have to wait and see a good

picture of the other.

One triple Barber full.

It's going to be Toro size,

though slightly bigger.

It's like six, 552.

Alec Bradley Black Market Filthy

Guligan returns to stores.

Good job.

Not a hooligan, but a guligan.

Not a hooligan.

The Alec and Bradley Black

market Filthy Guligan has

returned to store shelves for an

encore appearance.

Thank God they got one back.

Because we still have some.

We still have some.

No, he's saying that's what they

said.

That's what they said.

That's why they're releasing it

again because they have some

left.

Oh, in a 6 by 50 Toro that

features a Barber pole designed

made from US grown broad leaf in

Ecuador and Habana rappers.

Underneath that is an Indonesian

besuchi binder and fillers from

Nicaragua's Halapa, Estele and

Condega regions, as well as

Dominican pilotto.

That's good tobacco.

The cigars are made at STG,

Donnelly and Honduras, with

production limited to 2000

boxes. 24 cigars.

Pricing said at How much for a

Gooligan, gentlemen?

It doesn't matter 'cause after

they're all sold out, it's going

to discontinue problem.

That's why they're releasing

them because they got some.

You got to get these out.

We're either there, we're going

to have to Mickey peg them, say

Mickey peg is now a verb.

It's called lower your prices.

Did you just peg that?

You just peg that one.

That one got pegged.

I'm going to say $16.00 booty.

15.

Oh, booty wins 14. 49 plus tags.

Plus tags filthy Google again is

our way of having a little fun

with the season, but under the

spooky brand and Halloween hype,

it's still a seriously good

cigar, said Mikey friend Bradley

Rubin brand and.

Bradley needs to make one like

called the mustache or

something.

Brand ambassador for Alec

Bradley via pressure Lease.

With 7 distinct tobaccos from

five countries, it delivers

layers of flavor and complexity

that make it more than just a

fun release.

It's a really great cigar.

The Filthy Guligan debuted in

2024.

It's the latest offshoot of the

brands black market line, which

debuted in 2020.

Thousand 20,000 2011 20,020

Thousand The brand used the line

to celebrate Saint Patrick's Day

in 2013 by releasing the Filthy

Hooligan, A candela rapper cigar

known for its green color.

But now they put a ghost on it

and it's a guligan.

And it's darker.

And it's darker.

Three years later, another

version would be added, this

time using 3 wrappers and called

the Filthy Hooligan Shamrock.

The cigar uses 300 and wrappers

and blah blah blah blah blah.

Alex Bradley stirred by Ford's

cigar company.

Sorry.

You know what's really

interesting, Yes, is the Tiger

Lily was a lighter Connecticut

with the Barber pole, but it had

three Yes.

And the Filthy Hooligan was like

a lighter with the candela.

Everybody's going darker.

And then the tiger Asaurus, or

whatever the hell it is, yeah,

is now the three again, but now

dark.

And the Carol Bashkin Asaurus.

And that, yeah, that too.

And then the filthy Guligan is

also the dark with the green.

Somebody had a whole bunch.

So who's copying who is the

question.

Does the Guligan have?

Is it a triple bar ripple?

Double.

So it's not exactly the same.

Not exactly the same.

The Tiger source is a trip. 20%

different.

Yeah, 20% different.

They're fine.

Yeah.

All right.

And finally, Pure Aroma Cigars

announces tariff related price

increase.

Who?

What's the name of this company?

Pure aroma cigars.

Pure aroma.

Yes, you don't know who they

are.

Pure Aroma Cigars has announced

a price increase due to the

Trump administration's tariffs.

We remain committed to

delivering exceptional products

and services, said Islaus

Santana Diaz, president of Pure

Roma Cigars LLC, in a press

release.

While external factors have

necessitated this price change,

we have taken every step to

minimize the impact of our loyal

customers on our loyal

customers.

Diaz declined to discuss

specifics of the increases,

which other than to note that

it's they're having 1.

So no specifics, but we're

raising the price but not

telling you how much it is.

So just want to confirm that the

price is going up.

Yes, We don't know what the

cigars are.

No.

And it's going up.

And we don't know.

We don't know why it's not been

pegged.

It's the opposite.

It hasn't been pegged.

No, it's the opposite.

It's going up.

It's going up.

Oh Lord, I don't want to know

what the opposite is.

Price increase price.

Increase.

No, I'm never mind.

He means the words.

Yeah, he got excited with the

pegged.

No, he heard pegged and he's

they are back to Germany.

All right, folks, you know what

time it is?

It's the cigar industry's

favorite game.

What's the score?

The rules are simple, the

guesses are never boring, and

the bragging rights last the

week.

Let's see who's got the chops

and who's just blowing smoke.

You know, you turn a decent

color red that I can see when we

start talking about Germany

boots.

It's pretty.

We're all ready.

It's the.

Light of a Flash September 5th,

2025.

This is a recent cigar.

Charlie Minato Cigars.

Nikki Ragua reviews the Rojas

Cigar, Rojas St., Taco Al

Pestor, Toro Grande.

Oh we, we smoked this one.

I don't know if I smoked this

one in particular.

I can't keep up with these guys.

Charlie Rojas.

Charlie St.

Taco, El Grande, yadda yadda.

What do you want?

Boots.

That was, that was it.

That was the only.

That was that's.

The original thing you get all

right, I'll go find out who and

what.

I'll go first 80.

OK, OK, I'm going to go 88, my

standard C88.

All right, Cigar Review.

The Rojas St.

Taco El Pastor Toro Grande.

It's a Nikki Raguan cigar from

the Rojas Cigar Factory, Ecuador

and a Bando Binders Mexican San

Andreas Filler, Dominican

Republic in Nicaragua.

Link 6 1/2 by 56 is round.

Original release was April 2025.

Number of cigars smoke for the

review 3.

Of course.

Sometimes it's less.

That's why I say.

I have 80, I'd have nothing to

go off of. 80 It's a bigger

gauge 56.

Yes.

It's Charlie.

Charlie. 86.

Always angry.

All right, first clue.

Once I make my first puff, it's

clear that the open draw has

carried over.

Despite a lot of smoke pouring

out of the cigar.

There's about 1/2 as much smoke

in my mouth as I'd expect.

He can see the smoke in his

mouth.

Yes, the smoke coming off the

cigar.

He can feel it fill his mouth.

When he lets it out, half of

it's gone.

Where is this?

Where did it go?

Where is the smoke?

Wow.

Well, thanks Charlie for that

description, but I'm going to

stick away. 8080.

Show it 80.

I'll stick 86.

Secondary flavors include

leather, white pepper and

paprika, with isolated examples

of pepperoni and creaminess.

While the third cigar tastes

like a slightly aged version of

this profile, the largest

difference are the amounts of

acidity and saltiness, which

both of which can get

overwhelming.

The first cigar sounded gross,

the second one sounded OK.

I was cool with the pepperoni

flavor.

Creamy pepperoni.

You're a pepperoni guy.

No, no, no, no.

The second one's creamy

pepperoni.

German.

He loves the sauce.

The third one is just weird, so.

Score.

Is he still at 80?

I don't know.

I'm going to stick at 80 for

right now.

I mean, this guy, the

description of the flavours,

first of all, I don't know why

he's tasting leather.

What he's eating, I have no

idea.

Well, he didn't say if he likes

it or if he doesn't like it.

He just explained flavours and

he mentioned enough of them.

So I'm going to stick 86 I

guess.

The second-half of the Roja St.

Taco Al Pastor Toro Grande is

getting a touch bitter, though

it also brings out more bread

flavor, including ciabatta and

French crisp crust.

Nothing like a Taco.

Again, the amounts crust.

Yes, crisp French crust.

Again, the amounts of acidity

and saltiness play big roles in

the impacting each individual

puff, sometimes becoming

overwhelming.

I want to go to dinner with

Charlie.

Why you're going to eat leather

and fucking?

I want to see what happens.

You want to see the.

Experience.

I want to see.

I want to experience dinner with

Charlie.

Why he's pulling all these

flavors and everything out.

I was if he, you know, if he

goes backwards and goes this

steak tastes like a Roja St.

tacos.

Oh, like he compares them to

cigars.

Yeah, he compares all the food

to cigars.

Goes back.

Oh man, yeah, taking him to a

Golden Corral would be a

fucking.

Or if he's going This steak

tastes like French crust of

bread.

Did you hear the pizza?

Oh yeah, take him to a Golden

Corral.

I don't think Charlie eats a

Golden Corral.

It sounds like he does.

This guy he talking about I.

Think he does.

All right.

So that was the end of that.

That was the end of that one.

Fuck does he like French

cuisine?

I don't know, it's not

mentioned.

Let's go 82.

Finally, the needle moves.

He went to 82.

Yeah, he knows something.

Maybe Charlie likes French

bread.

Just the crust, apparently.

He looks like he likes French

bread.

What does that mean?

I just nothing just means that

he likes it.

Yeah, I think he likes it.

I'm gonna stick 86.

All right.

I don't know how much better the

flavor of the Roja St.

Taco Pastor Grande could be, but

I do know the draw could have

been better because the draw

impacts everything.

I have little doubt that had

that, had I smoked 3 cigars with

normal draws, the flavor would

be different.

I just don't know how much.

Our largest issue with the

flavor profile with the acidity,

which occasionally got to be

overwhelming, though never

consistently affecting

consecutive puffs.

But I don't think putting the

cigar in the humidor for a while

will improve the draw.

I do wonder if it might make

some parts of the flavor profile

calm down a bit.

Look for a Redux review sometime

in 2026.

So he's saying that it doesn't

have a lot of flavor because if

it had a better draw, he could

get more flavor.

Yes, I think that's.

What he's saying if it sits in

oh, it wouldn't get any more

flavor than we already.

Have, but he's going to redo it

in 2026.

And lets you know.

Unless he redoes everything, I

don't know.

He I don't think he redoes

everything.

I think he likes it, but he

doesn't completely like it, so I

think I'm going to go to 84.

Michael, that's where I was

going to go.

Well, you can pick the same

thing.

Yeah, we can pick the same

number.

We went over that.

It just doesn't make a winner.

Yeah, that's the problem.

He wants to win.

Well, more importantly, he

doesn't want you to win.

Right, that is more.

Important.

All right, I'm going.

To say, Sir, we need an answer.

I'm going to go to 84 then

because you're making me panic.

You're both at 84.

Yeah, yeah.

Score is 85.

You both lose.

No, we both got a half a point.

You both lost.

Neither one of you got it right.

You.

Yeah, that's the gamble.

You're you're both the second

losers.

That's the gamble.

All right, the next Cigars from

2016 is reviewed by Brian Burt.

Is the Alec Bradley Cigar.

Honduras limited edition review.

Alec Bradley black market.

Filthy hooligan.

Discontinued.

From 2016, Yeah.

This one they don't make

anymore, right?

Brian is our local half wheel

representative.

Oh, OK, Vote for Brian.

OK, Mr. Brian.

Have we had one from Brian yet?

I can't see him.

We have had one from Brian.

I'm trying to mix it up.

A.

Little bit 80. 886.

Oh nice.

Sorry Alec Bradley Black market

Filthy Hooligan 2016 is the

cigars from Honduras.

It is the Tabaco de Oriente

rapper, Honduran candela,

Honduran Candela, Nikki Raghuan

Halapa binders, Ecuadorian

Sumatra fillers, Honduras and

Panama.

It's a 6 by 50 Toro.

Sounds like a horrific tasting.

Original release date is

February 10th, 2016.

Number of cigars smoked is 3. 80

Where'd you go 86 before 87?

So you went down because?

It's going to go 90, so let's

stick right next to you. 87 What

did he pick?

He hasn't picked anything yet.

Oh, pick one. 88. 8788 OK, first

clue For having a fairly complex

profile in the cold draw, the

cigar definitely starts out in

the more reduced state.

The burn is mostly good.

However, as I come to expect

with the Barber pole cigars,

it's obviously not the most

perfect, with the contrasting

rappers sometimes fighting to

stay even.

Bad burn.

Bad burn, but he expects the

bad.

Burn 'cause it's Barber pole.

Barber pole. 87. 88.

Clue #2 As the cigar shifts into

the final third, the grass notes

that has dominated so much seems

to fade slightly, allowing Spice

Wooden earth to shine a little

brighter while the pepper

continues to stay mostly in the

background.

At Retro, Hell brings the Pepper

forward significantly, while it

also brings out some nice nutty

grassy notes as well.

OK, doesn't.

Really change much?

So it tastes like grass.

Now it don't taste like grass.

I retro hailed.

Now it tastes like grass.

Grass and crabs.

Too much Grass 86.

I feel Brian is a good Raider.

Yeah, I feel he's going to rate

this 84.

So is that your voting?

Yeah, I'm at 84.

Next clue?

How do you think that that makes

him a good Raider?

Because I don't think this cigar

is good.

OK.

The second third continues to

see the grassy note lead with a

vanilla fading slightly along

with the pepper which has slid

towards the background.

Again.

Spice.

Would an earth intermingle in

the middle complete the complete

complimenting, sorry,

complimenting the grassy notes

nicely.

More grass.

More grass?

Well, I think that it goes above

84, so I'm going to say 85. 84.

Final thoughts I enjoy candela

wrapped cigars but the filthy

hooligan never really hit home

for me.

Does not enjoy.

Change is a welcome one, giving

us not only a new candela

wrapper, but in addition to

traditionally cured wrappers to

give the cigar more depth than

just a grassy blast of candela.

The mix works well, really

giving the cigar a pleasant

profile with the bright grassy

notes complimented by earthy

pepper and wood.

The only downside is the burn

that was less than ideal,

though.

On the flip side, it's something

I've come to expect with Harbor

with Barber pole wrappers.

While these are still looking

like they're available at

various stores, the bad news is

unless it's a local store,

you'll have trouble getting them

to you before tomorrow.

Apparently this is right before

Saint Patrick's Day.

The good news is though, these

smokes just as good on days that

aren't the 17th of March.

So go grab them while they're

available and have a mini

celebration of Saint Patrick's

on whatever day you like.

All right, I'm completely

confused on what just happened.

Does he like it?

Does he not?

No one knows.

Nothing, Brian.

Knows just like a fucking Willy

Wonka Riddle.

Like the taste.

I don't like Willy Wonka.

Thing doesn't burn right.

I'm going to put pressure on

I'm.

Blowing up like a balloon.

I'm going to put pressure on

boots.

Let's say 8486.

That's it.

That's it.

Scores 87.

Yeah.

Boots, I got news for you.

Good job.

I'm winning both of these.

Congratulations.

I appreciate it.

I did both of these reviews

earlier.

I wasn't going to pick the

winning numbers.

All right, chef of the weeks is

the Escape Cigar Lounge in

Leesburg, FL.

Well, I will be Saturday from

4:00 to 7:30.

OK, congratulations.

Listening of the Week, Matt.

Tai, Matt.

Tai.

How about that cigar celebrating

a three hundredth episode?

3 hundredth episode.

Congratulations, Matt Tai.

I like that.

Congratulations and Patrick

Prater.

And Patrick and Patrick Prater.

Yeah, yes.

That's not the guy that reviews

the cigars, right?

No, OK, no anybody.

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