ACHP Episode 425 Naked Florida Cruising
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Welcome to a cigar hustler pod
guys episode 425, brought to you
by Espinosa Cigars and their
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I'm Mike Farmer, the host of the
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I just had the winter poops and
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Pushing the buttons and running
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Say hello, The winter poops.
And today on the show, 2026 is
shaping up to be the year to be
naked on a boat in Florida.
Netflix.
Netflix has come a long way
since the days of mailing DV DS
Dave Portnoy is demanding an
investigation.
And in cigars, War Fighters
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The CAA is making changes, and a
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And we've got the first review.
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So why are we smoking on the
Patreon today, Michael?
We are.
What lovely cigar from Espinosa
Cigars are we?
Smoking.
We are smoking the knuckle
sandwich off the menu.
How's that look?
Turn it a little, there's a
little glare from the light,
'cause it's gold.
How's that?
A little more like.
Beautiful.
It's a beautiful.
Perfect.
Yep, right there.
It's very pretty cigar.
It's very.
Beautiful came in at 15.8g.
It's a nice cigar.
It's a really good looking, yes.
Why?
We're not taking the hospitals
of money.
Maybe I had a phone call with
Jack Teranio early early this
morning.
Who knows?
Do they do spin offs?
Do they like spin offs?
Yeah, it's called Down to Her
podcast.
Bert OK.
No, we don't get enough out for
that deal.
You got me.
It's not even really worth our
trouble at that point.
Something's better than nothing,
Palmer.
Take care of your people.
Buddy time, we process and
everything.
They're driving Jags, we're
driving Volkswagens.
Whatever.
And now the news.
Or you want to talk more about
is pooping?
Yeah, how?
How's your poop?
What's going on?
How you doing?
You alright?
You going to make it through the
show over there booty?
I had food poisoning.
You have food poisoning.
What did you eat?
Racetrack Pizza.
Who the hell what is?
Wrong with you?
Who eats that kind of food at a
gas station?
What is wrong with you?
Don't act like you've never
eaten race.
Track I've never eaten racetrack
pizza I've.
Never had racetrack pizza?
The most food I eat at gas
station is maybe a breakfast
biscuit type thing and that's
just egg.
See, I would I would stray away
from the biscuit part.
I think I feel like you're still
asking for it too if you had the
breakfast.
Burrito.
Whatever.
Not a burrito.
The croisson, mate.
The English version.
Did you ever get a racetrack
award for Guardian of the
Tobacco?
Rachel No, I have not.
I have not.
It's on my desk in my house.
It's lovely.
It's right there.
You.
Should frame it OK.
Yes.
All right, so Boots has got the
poops.
Boots has the poop.
What's the worst thing you've
ever eaten at a gas station?
You ever had?
Gas station sushi.
No, I've seen.
I would definitely draw the line
at that.
Yeah, I've seen it.
I've been always very even to
touch it.
It's definitely.
A community question, so please
comment below as to what you
What's the worst thing you've
eaten at a gas from a gas
station?
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
I want to hear it.
We'll and we'll we'll talk about
the best ones on the next
episode tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
No, no, the show goes up
tomorrow.
Yeah, Wednesday.
Yeah, we'll talk about it later
this week.
Yeah, sometime I I know.
And now the news.
Florida is getting a naked
cruise line next year of.
Course it is perfect A.
Whole new level.
This might be the one you
finally go on.
Might be whole new level of
Florida Man Energy is on the way
folks.
Apparently the big nude boat is
coming back in February 2026.
Yes, an actual naked cruise
launching right out of Miami.
Barren Necessities and Norwegian
Cruise Line are teaming up to
send 2300 brave souls on a
clothing optional Caribbean
adventure.
They'll be hitting the Bahamas,
Puerto Rico, St.
Martin, Dominica, Martinique and
St.
Lucia before limping back to
reality on February 14th.
Wow, it's a It's a Valentine's
Day.
Thing limping back.
Now don't you show up.
Flip flops and a smile.
There are some rules.
The buffet clothes free zone you
don't have to wear clothes to
the buffet you.
Don't have to wear clothes to
the buffet.
Nope, that sounds scary.
That's right, but in the formal
dining rooms you have to keep
parts covered, you have to wear
a towel, and wherever you park
that bare bottom, you have to
put a towel down first.
Any place you sit down,
excursion, staterooms, pool
deck, you better be sitting on a
towel like a respectable noose.
You also can't stroll around the
porch naked unless they
specifically tell you it's go
time.
Oh.
Oh, they say, it's go time.
Confirmed.
Yes, you have to confirm nudity
is available in the port.
Straight, straight.
Photos and videos without
consent are banned.
Sorry, Michael.
Yeah, I mean, because like, a
couple things have already
crossed my mind #1.
How much is it?
How much is it?
No.
Do they charge less because you
don't bring clothes?
No.
First of all, yes.
Who's going to be enforcing the
bear towel thing?
I'd imagine the stat.
You think someone's going to say
excuse me, Sir?
Yeah.
Yeah, and they're going to.
Oh, I'm very sorry.
Probably a really big guy,
Harry, and his name's going to
be.
Larry Well, it's the general
staff, you know, the cruise line
people.
They don't have a special naked
staff.
The staff is wearing clothes.
Maybe bare necessities?
I can't imagine like the the
nudist guys all being, you know,
everybody have like low body fat
and stuff like that.
This is.
Going no, if you seen the people
normally think it's kind of
cruise you don't really want.
This is going to be.
Some be a fatty cruise.
Yeah, it's not like they've all
just worked out for six years
now.
They want to go.
Everybody needs to see me and
they.
Check out my dog.
It's mostly older people.
Yeah, they just want to be free.
What time frame is this?
What time?
Certain time of the day?
No, no, no.
Wow.
Oh, it ends on February 14th, so
that's.
Coming straight out of the
winter, people ride out of
hibernation.
They're definitely not in
workout mode.
Bulking season.
Bulking season.
Awesome.
All right.
Also banned lingerie, which is
kind of odd.
OK, you can be naked, but you
can't wear lingerie.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What are you doing?
Yeah.
Put that away.
It's either full nudity or full
clothes.
There's no halfway in between
this thing on the boat.
Underneath all the cheekiness,
the ship is actually the
Norwegian Pearl Full casino
whiskey bar spa entertainment
the whole deal and the price.
199.
Wait a minute, there's a window?
I have a window of prices
depending on the level of your
stateroom.
So how many days is it?
7 Seven day.
Cruise seven day naked cruise so
they bring extra sunscreen and
sunburn after.
Well, you said you had a window.
What?
You said you had a.
Window.
I have a range on the prices so
like from blank to blank
depending on the size of your
room and that type.
Of stuff I'm going to, I'm going
to put it at 1600 you.
Don't want to do the range the
window blank to blank. 1600 to
2200, OK.
Yeah, I'm going to be 700 to
1200. 2000 to 33,000.
Really.
For a naked cruise. 33 is 30.
$3000.
Yes, if you want a fancy cabin,
will you walk around like Adam
and and Adam and Eve in the.
Garden.
Oh wow. 33,000 must be like the
executive where you have a.
It comes with leaves.
Butler and you know, all that
kind of stuff the But that's
sweet.
It'd be so weird you're walking
around naked and the Butler's
clothed.
I don't you know the.
Entire staff of the ship is
closed.
They got to be naked as well
the.
Captain's not.
Naked.
Everybody's naked.
Everybody's.
What if I want everybody naked
on this cruise?
What if I want to be like Jack
in the stowage?
How much is that?
That would be the 2000 that's
but that's inside cabin, no
windows.
That's that's down where you can
hear the motor.
Yeah, that's like a that's a
live experience and you actually
have to pay more for that, like
Jack from Titanic is.
What you're saying, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to dance naked.
That's shipping up the Boston.
And they sink, so you know, for
$2000, they actually throw you
off the boat into the water.
I heard that there's like a
flood room where they actually
flood you and then and then the
gates locked.
Oh yeah, you can't escape and.
Right before.
Yeah, and it recedes just before
you die, Right.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
Wow.
So it's a.
It's a.
It's like aphyxiation thing.
Yeah, it's like.
Wow, this cruise is.
Erotic asphyxiation or whatever
it's called, the one Skip always
says is the way you died.
It's just when you thought it
was getting.
Great, that's it.
Auto erotic asphyxiation.
You go back to the buffet and
there is the racetrack sushi.
There it is.
Oh, right, right on there.
Except it's Aqua.
Erotic asphyxiation.
Yeah, Florida.
Never a dull moment.
We should go as a as a show and
do a live show.
Absolutely not.
I mean.
What's what's, what sucks is you
said that there's no video, but
it would be awesome if somebody
like kind of just tracked it
where, you know, you blink
everything out, you blink out
faces, you blink out all the
parts or whatever and that would
take off on.
Something be a lot of blinking.
Meta glasses.
OK, Meta.
Don't they record?
Yeah.
There you go.
I think they pick up on that.
Why is everybody wearing those
little horn drum glasses?
So weird.
So weird.
All right, a big Hollywood
shocker.
Netflix.
But Warner Brothers.
I know.
HBO almost 50.
Oh Warner Brothers and HBO
almost 15 years ago the CEO of
Warner Brothers parent company
brushed off this little DVD by
mail setup called Netflix.
He literally compared them to
the Albanian army taking over
the world.
Wow.
Well, Fast forward to today and
that Albanian army just bought
Warner Brothers.
Yesterday, Netflix and Warner
Brothers Discovery announced a
$82.7 billion deal.
For Netflix.
To scoop up WBD streaming and
studio businesses, beating out
Paramount, Skydance and Comcast,
and a full on bidding more. 82.
Billion. 82 Bill with AB.
Almost 83 point. 7 almost three
Dang.
Netflix got some money, boy.
You know, normally a decimal is
just kind of a rounding error,
but when you're talking about
82.7 billion, I would be OK with
the .7, you know what I mean?
If regulators let this thing go
through, Hollywood gets flipped
on its head.
What Netflix is buying, they're
buying Warner Brothers studio
meeting, Harry Potter, DC,
Batman.
They own the Playground now.
HBO the crown jewel, Game of
Thrones, The White Lotus, the
whole prestige lineup.
HBO Max.
No clue if they keep it separate
or fold it into Netflix, but
expect yet another name change
because that's what Warner
Brothers loves to do.
What Netflix isn't buying this
is what's not included in the
deal.
Oh, they were disabled the
concierge.
They yeah, they just, that's not
the right word, but yes, they a
la carte.
A la carte, sorry.
Yes, they a la carte did the
deal.
We would like this and this.
We don't want this.
So they did not buy CNN, TNT.
Yeah, who wants any of that?
Crap.
All the legacy channels stay
behind.
No cable TV stuff.
I don't want to mess with that.
That's all crap.
We don't want any of that.
It's garbage.
It's garbage.
Give this to Comcast.
WDB will spin those off in 2026
so somebody else can buy those.
Michael, maybe if you have a
check, you could sure buy
yourself TNT.
Will you take a post dated third
party out of state?
Check.
Maybe they will.
Yeah, perfect.
Well, they just made 86.7
billion, $82.7 billion.
Maybe they won't care.
Yeah, probably.
And Hollywood A listeners are
panicking.
Everyone wants to know if the
theaters are dead.
Netflix says they'll still put
Warner Brothers movies in
theaters, but didn't say for how
long or how many.
Now we wait.
The deal is supposed to close
next year, but it won't be
smooth.
Antitrust questions are already
flying, and the word is the
Trump administration prefers
Paramount's bid.
He doesn't like Netflix.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Why?
I don't know, they one time did
not send him the DVD he ordered.
Oh.
Really.
No, he said something.
About the big red dog instead of
big red one and he got so upset.
Wow.
He said something about like by
them doing this move it moves
their stock like so much and it
was unfair or something.
A monopoly?
Yeah.
Well, wouldn't.
If Paramount bought it, their
stock would do whatever he's
saying Netflix's stock would do.
I get.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, that's fine.
Well.
That's probably his buddy.
Well, he owns Paramount stock.
He wasn't smart enough to buy
Netflix.
That makes sense, allegedly.
Allegedly, yes.
Yes, because he's probably a big
fan.
Listens a lot.
So Netflix is winning.
This one is raising eyebrows in
DC.
Wild times.
The DVD by Male Underdog just
became the heavyweight champ of
the world.
They've been they've been doing
a lot of stuff lately, Netflix.
Viral.
Yeah.
There was word that they were
going to release some of their
streaming only movies to
theaters starting next year.
Really.
Like new movies?
New movies, That was a news
clipping that we went over on
those.
Yeah, man, I hope they don't
destroy movies.
I do enjoy movie theaters every
once in a while, do ya?
I do.
I like.
Going Yeah, the experience is
cool.
Yeah, it's just expensive.
What is an expensive?
No, I know I'm.
Watching Mate at home.
I like that my kids are just
wait a second, it's still
expensive even at home.
Not the same.
I can see A little bit cheaper
than you can see a movie in the
theater.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true, but.
Especially if I have somebody
else's streaming.
Login OH.
But it's nice, allegedly, But
it's nice to, you know, have
like a night out, yeah.
You know, yeah, I wish my wife
enjoyed going to the movies.
I would go more.
Sometimes it is nicer to see it
on the big screen.
Yeah, but the surround sound and
stuff.
Take a nap.
Well, no man, you just spend all
the money for that thing.
I don't like the new seats where
you're laying down because
that's what happened.
I fell.
Asleep.
That's that's what I love.
Yeah, I love those seats last.
One we saw together was the live
action Beauty and the Beast.
I missed half of it.
I fell asleep.
Oh, I probably fell asleep on
that one too.
Yeah, why the hell would you go
see that movie?
My wife agreed to go if we saw
that she likes the story.
Well, you just have to let her
know that it's live action
Beauty and the Beast.
Next time we'll go see Lethal
Weapon 5.
Oh yeah, I saw that's coming
out.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Is it really?
Yeah, he promised Donner on his
deathbed that he would make sure
the movie continued, 'cause they
have one more.
Donner wrote another one.
Donner just died, the director,
OK?
And he promised him on his
deathbed.
Who?
Is he?
Donner, the director of all the
other movies, All the other
lethal weapons.
Lethal weapons.
Richard Donner.
OK, so who promised Richard?
L Gibson.
That's what I was looking.
For well, he just said that.
You didn't hear him say Mel
Gibson.
I did not, but it's OK.
First you stick me with a butt
with a cigar trick and now
you're not packing me up.
Fine, I understand how it is.
I did not say, hey, I just want
to be.
Truthful.
Still late?
That's nice.
So anyway, he did, and Mel said
yeah, sure, thinking nobody
would have heard it right.
But then after he died, he found
out, Donner told his wife.
He told the movie studio.
He told all these people that
Mel Gibson's agreed to do the
movie for me.
If you know, if something
happened to me.
Well, I mean, Mel's not.
He doesn't have a lot going on
anyways.
Yeah, but he's kind of old
though.
I don't think he can run around
do his karate stuff anymore.
So what they already they like
#4?
He didn't want to do a fifth
one.
Sometimes the actors get tired
of being.
The same karate and lethal
weapon.
I don't remember those parts.
You didn't see when he fight
when he fought Gary Busey in the
first one, that was karate.
When he smacked his wrist.
No, when they had the big fight
outside with the helicopter
light flashing.
Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that
being karate.
Though Jet Li in there.
Right.
Yeah, He fought Jet Li.
Yeah.
But yeah, but that was Jet Li.
That wasn't Mel Gibson doing
karate.
He was doing it.
He was getting his ass kicked,
but he was doing it.
Yeah, he did.
He was getting older at that
point, right?
OK.
I think that I would love to see
you, Lee.
Oh, I would go see it again too.
Is Danny Glover still alive too?
Right.
I think so.
Yeah, yeah, that's just.
Probably barely.
Think he was saying I'm too old
for this shit before he really
is.
He's really.
They would probably be bringing
in a younger pair of course.
Some type of transitional movie.
I could see that, Yeah.
That'd be awesome.
Sure.
They could bring Reggie from.
From the other crossover.
Yeah, nice.
From Bad Boys.
Yeah, I like Reggie from Bad
Boys.
Reggie was OK, all right.
So merger possibly happening,
maybe not, who knows?
Murder.
Merger.
Oh, merger, I thought you said
murdered.
Like who just killed somebody?
You're definitely saying all
right now sports and gambling,
Dave Portnoy calls NFL
investigation following Broncos,
Raiders and well known New
England Patriots fan Portnoy
wasn't or wasn't angered by the
Raiders losing.
It was, in fact, how they lost
the game to the Broncos.
I did see this OK.
The Broncos were favored by 8.5
points in the game against their
AFC West rival.
Denver was up 10 with the block
with the clock ticking down in a
game that was all but over with
the Raiders running out the
clock.
No one is happy right now inside
the Las Vegas Raiders
organization.
What was supposed to be a year
of reloading and making it back
to the playoffs has turned into
a national nightmare as a sit at
the bottom of the NFL standings
with a 2 to 11 record.
But no one on planet earth right
now is more upset over today's
Raiders Broncos game than the
Barstool Sports founder.
I think this is out of order
Dave Portnoy, who took to social
media following the end of
today's game.
That's the worst beat of all
time, he said in a video
recorded into his home or in his
home.
You have to investigate the
Raiders.
Investigate the Raiders?
What are they doing?
What the F Blank blank.
So what the fuck?
After a meaningless catch with
no time outs remaining, it was
all over.
The Broncos win by 10.
Except it wasn't.
The Raiders player who caught
the ball attempted to get up to
walk towards the sideline as the
time was about to expire, but he
had trouble getting up with the
Bronco player who was defending
him on the previous play.
The referee threw a flag,
stopping the clock and calling a
delay of game on Denver, giving
Las Vegas a field goal and
turning the defeat from 10
points to 7.
Portnoy would then go on a
demand justice for his bad
betting beat, pointing at the
absolute absurdity of a late
second call that held no meaning
to anyone on the field except
for Betters and the Raiders
kicker.
The bar stool owner is
advocating for Raiders head
coach Pete Carroll to serve
prison time for this act.
The only punishment Carroll will
receive from tonight's game is
having to coach the lifeless
Raiders again next week as they
travel to Philadelphia to play
the reigning champions.
Look, this is an ongoing thing.
Right.
Yeah, that's why I pulled it,
cause we've talked about this
several times.
Like, like there have been some
apparent things that have
happened in in the NFL.
We just like, OK, dude, that
doesn't make any sense at all,
you know, And I don't even bet
on these games, but I always
say, oh, that looked weird.
What was the spread?
Oh, OK, now that makes sense.
Like I always ask, what's the
spread?
Oh, it's 6 1/2.
So OK, so then then it's a catch
and it's a touchdown, right?
Like, yeah.
That game was 8 1/2.
Yeah, exactly.
And you know, I heard that there
was an obnoxious punt too from
like the 30 or something Like,
look, it's all over the place.
The the biggest mistake that
that has happened is the fact
that betting is now totally
legit.
And so everybody talks about it
now.
Well, no, Not only that, but.
There's a lot of money.
Right.
There's a lot of money at stake
and the and the reality is that
you know, things are going to
fold the opposite way so that
the rich get richer in that
scenario.
Yeah, when you when you even if
you just do the math on your
calculator, right, you're
talking about billions and
billions of dollars each day
that these guys are making.
So if you take one guy on a
team, right, and you go, hey,
you were the most betted guy on
on, on today's thing, on today's
ticket, we're going to give you
$100 million not to do this.
I don't think it's happening
like that, to be honest.
I think that it's more happening
along the lines where it's
controlled by the the officials.
Could be.
Yeah.
Well, well, that was the first
accusations that came out was
referees.
Yeah, I think that that's that
that's what I would.
Believe that would be the
easiest control point.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then cause what happens is
once it's if it's exposed by a
set of refs, they get
terminated.
Sure, right.
The guy gets a little message in
his ear.
Hey, they made the spread.
We need to fix this or we're
going to lose a lot of money.
Here's the line.
OK, sorry, throws out the flag.
I mean like one of the, it's
like a blessing and a curse when
you have New York and fast time
reviewing and stuff, right,
Right.
They say, hey, it was a catch,
you know, it's whatever and move
on.
Well, that means that they have
direct contact with the refs,
right?
And it can get to them
instantly.
Hey I need you to flag that or
not flag that.
I mean this is all theoretical
but.
Sure alleged.
All of it makes sense to me.
All of it makes a lot of sense
to me.
Too much money to be just giving
up.
You don't think there might be
like 1 ref who don't doesn't
want to do it?
Who's willing to be the the guy?
He'd probably be dead.
They probably would.
He probably.
Would have had.
We're not talking about being
fired.
We're yeah.
We're talking there isn't no
money where they would just.
Yeah, I'd say, oh, he, oh, he
doesn't want to fall soon.
Oh, he doesn't want to play.
Oh, go do with breaks.
No, it would be like a heart
attack or something like that,
you know?
Oh.
Allegedly somebody patched him
on the back in the locker room,
Hey, have a good game and they
hit him with the ring with the
thing in it.
What was the what was the what
was the way that the allegedly
Diddy was taking everybody out?
What was he doing?
He was in jail with something.
Baby oil.
No, it wasn't baby oil.
Was that Debbie?
I don't remember.
There's, there's this whole
conspiracy about the blonde girl
that was in Eight Mile,
Brittany.
Oh.
Her.
She was going to expose him.
Yeah, not.
Grinder.
With the big eyes.
Wow.
She had the.
She had the big eyes I know
you're talking about.
It Brittany Grinder's got big
eyes, I guess.
It was Brittany something.
Smith, yeah.
She.
I know who you're talking about.
And then her husband died, you
know, like.
Yeah, he was just.
No, man, it was something else.
I'm telling you, there's a whole
conspiracy behind it.
Brittany seems like my point is
though.
If we believe, if we were to
believe that Diddy had the
ability to do this, Diddy
doesn't have nearly as much
money in power as the NFL.
Well, it's, well, it goes
further than that, right?
It's they said it was tied into
the mafia.
Well, it's always been tied into
the mafia, but before at least,
they just ran the books.
They handled the book, you know,
the betting was on a much
smaller scale.
The bookies.
Brittany Murphy.
Murphy, Brittany Murphy.
There you go.
Oh.
That's far from ground.
And cause of death.
Let's see here.
Undisclosed.
Talk, talk.
Some mole in her homecoming.
This must have been when Mikey
was watching.
TMZ, that mole, No mold.
They they tried to blame mold,
but no, they said that wasn't
possible.
I thought it was pneumonia.
That's what he was doing.
Allegedly, yeah.
Injecting people with ammonia I.
Don't know there's some way to
cause pneumonia like he was put.
Remember how Jamie Foxx got sick
too?
He almost died.
There's a whole conspiracy about
all this stuff.
It was Diddy, yo, did you guys
see that was Diddy the whole
thing?
With that was Boots Diddy that
said Diddy.
My wife started to watch it.
I want to watch it.
The Diddy conspiracy thing.
The Diddy.
Documentary.
That it was on here when we had
Eric in here.
That 50 released.
So I saw, I saw bits and pieces
of it.
That was I'm I'm just just how
he did it. $0.50 released it.
It's just he.
He he oh nice, he set it all up
because the only TV station that
is shown in prison right is ABC.
So he did it on ABC.
So he didn't see.
Could watch it.
Right, so that Diddy could see
it.
They were like, who's your
favorite villain?
He's like Diddy City's crazy
man.
That's.
Nice.
OK, all right, that wraps up the
sports rundown.
Now let's shift gears and make
you some money.
It's time for boots and the
money makers Pick of the week.
Oh.
God.
Yeah, tell us somebody was upset
about your last one.
Were there.
Yeah, they're like, hey, I took
your bet and.
I don't take his bet, whatever
you do.
I was, I was definitely, I was
sick this weekend.
So he had.
The poops.
To prepare for this.
So you don't have 1 today.
I don't have one.
It's the only day of the week we
do it.
Is Monday all he has to do for
five days?
Yeah, let's say he doesn't even
show up half the other time.
Right, give me give, let's give
me give me a second.
I'll I'll look at something here
all.
Right, I'll do the disclaimer
first, booge.
Pick of the week is strictly
entertainment.
We make no guarantees and
outcomes.
Bet responsibly.
If you have a problem, call 888.
Admit it.
All right, there you go.
Now with time all.
Right, let's go money maker.
Oh, was that my time?
That was the time you had.
OK, let's see here.
We'll go to Thursday night game.
OK, alright, who's playing?
What sport?
It's football.
Oh, last week he did basketball.
They said we'll go to the
Thursday night game, so.
Yeah.
Oh, you assumed it was football.
Yeah.
That the only sport?
On the Falcons Bucks.
I'm going to be.
I'm going to be there.
Yeah.
You're.
Going to be at the game, yeah.
So you can bet bet at the
window.
Alright, let's go.
We'll just do Tampa Bay on the
money line.
Tampa Bay outright, Yeah.
What's the spread?
4 - 4.
Tampa's -4 So you're saying
Tampa money line They just had a
bad loss the the New Orleans,
the sun.
The Falcons are looking rough,
man.
So the Saints division game, I
don't know, man, I don't know.
That's a you ain't.
Going to take your home team.
No.
All right, that's what I'm
taking.
I don't gamble.
Baker, Baker when he's at home,
man, that guy's doing his thing.
He just lost at home to the
Saints. 2420I.
Didn't get to watch again.
Yeah, me neither.
Me either.
I I got to be honest, man, this
whole season I've really kind of
lost.
Yeah, you haven't been.
You don't see me into as you
normally.
I've lost total interest in
football when I just saw a
couple things be so badly
skewed.
I'm like.
Maybe if you gamble, you'll be
more into it.
And I'm a pass fan and they're
on the rise.
And you know, you think I'd be
like Winnipeg.
No, I don't.
I do not.
Good 'cause money makers gave me
a tip and I'm afraid.
Yeah, money maker.
The magic just lost for ONS too
man they're hurting.
How bad was that?
What was his injury?
They haven't, they haven't
completely come out with it yet,
but I feel like it's ACLMCL.
It was right under his knee he
was holding.
I saw Mosley at wreck ball on
Saturday and.
Then was he fine this?
Is the coach.
That was before the game, and it
was so funny because like then
the game was in New York, it was
the next day or whatever, and
she's like, we just saw him like
I'm like, he got on a plane,
obviously.
How did he get there so fast?
I got to go.
What is Is there teleportation
now?
These kids are pretty cool.
Yeah.
All right, Mikey, you have a
video for us.
I do.
I was going to say if it's not,
I'm just taking it out of the.
Rotation.
I sent it to you.
Oh, so just watch it without the
sound, no volume.
It's really kind of long, so
we'll just kind of talk about it
while while you're watching it.
But this kind of ends for me the
argument of smoking small cigars
in the winter.
OK, is it on me?
Yep.
OK.
Smoking dead horse.
Smoking cigars in the winter,
it's too cold and I have to
smoke the small cigars.
Fred Ruway, I don't know what
you're talking about because
this guy, he's got the set up.
Yeah, this guy's dialed in.
He's got a tent.
Oh wow, wait, wait until you
open it up.
I must be a little bit further
than you guys.
He's got a whole podcast in this
thing.
He's.
Got a vent?
Is that a vent system goes into?
The He's got a ventilated
system, two heaters.
He's got a drinking problem as
well.
Blanton's.
Oh wow, isn't that ruined by all
the smoke?
I'm just kidding.
I don't think you have a
drinking problem.
It's just funny.
Heater.
Oh yeah, but isn't that like?
My guy's got 2 heaters going.
Isn't that a thing you're not
supposed to do with heaters?
What?
He closed him inside or
something.
Yeah, but he vents it out the
back though.
Maybe it's all part of the
ventilation system.
It seems like this guy's dialed
in.
I'm not going to question what
he's doing, you know, but shout
out to Cigar collective, man.
Nicely done, bud.
Nicely done.
So if it's cold where you're at
and you if you really want us to
have a cigar and relax.
Spend $7000.
I feel like, I feel like you
could do it.
I feel like you could do it.
I don't think that's $7000.
I was including the podcast.
Equipment.
Well, a ventilation system and a
tent.
Is that really a tent or that
looks like it might be a tart
for a camper?
It's like a ice fishing tent.
Oh.
OK, gotcha.
Yeah, it's quite impressive
setup he's got there.
I think that that's pretty
amazing.
Good job buddy.
Yeah, good job there, boss.
OK.
Does he have a name?
Do you want to give his name?
I.
Said Cigar Cigar Collective.
Oh, I made like a Bob Smith.
Oh, I didn't look that far.
I just looked curious.
Instagram, I was like, I got
you.
All right.
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
I did.
It's a nice little.
Sign so little cigars in the
winters.
If you like little cigars,
that's fine, but if you like
having bigger cigars, figure it
out.
I I figure if if we were in a
cold state we would understand
and know how to smoke other
cigars and small ones.
Yeah, I'd have heaters, right?
Or we have like a separate
building?
Those heaters could have just
worked in his garage without the
10th.
I love it, but he has it vented.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So like the swell does not get
into the house.
I had my garage vent in.
I had the same deal.
I had a bathroom fan on the
ceiling that the vent tube ran
outside down to the back.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not hard to do.
No.
Or you just use your shed in the
back.
So stop being lazy, you
embarrass yourself.
You embarrass yourself.
All right, war fighter cigars
with California's new UTL law,
are we?
Getting into cigar news.
Yes, it's a cigar.
I'm sorry.
Let's light one up and get into
cigar news now.
I know, I'm aware.
Well, I said war fighter cigars
and.
I know, but the what about the?
Listeners, they heard me say War
Fighter cigars, new UTL law
kicking in January 1st.
The clock is officially ticking
for anyone in California who
wants War Fighter cigars.
You can still stuck up, but only
until December 15th.
After that, well, California's
going to California.
The short version, the state's
slapped on another massive
unnecessary fee.
Let's call it what it is, a
bribe.
And we're not playing the game.
The cost, the red tape, the
headache, it's ridiculous.
This is a statement from War
Fighter, so War Fighter Cigars
won't be able to ship it to
California going forward.
We hate it, you hate it.
Our loyal California smokers
absolutely deserve better.
But politics ruin everything,
cigars included.
So grab what you can while you
still can and check our dealer
locator if you're planning a
road trip.
Stock up before the slate before
the state shuts it down.
So they issued a statement
saying we're not complying to
the UTL, so we're not going to
California anymore.
OK, I just don't understand how
like what am I missing as far as
why people will still vote this
way in that in a state.
It just doesn't make sense to
me.
Like I we talked to people that
are in California and they're
like, this is all really bad.
Well, was it a public vote or it
was a legislation?
Either way, like you know who's
making the voting?
Right.
You know you cannot vote for
them the next time around,
right?
But they're there now though.
That's that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, they're so dominantly that
way.
Like it's been that way for
years.
Like whoever goes into office,
they just kind of move along
that way.
Well, California's so, you know,
anti everything because they
want their state to be so clean
and everything.
I mean, I've told you before,
there's a list when you import
into California that you have to
say my product does not have
these 75 things in it.
Yeah, but that's what I'm
saying.
How do you you?
Know when you go around to
Texas, they don't care.
If you're from California and
you think that all of this is
good, I won't would like to hear
your comments as well because I
haven't had, I haven't come
across a person in our realm
that said, yeah, this is
awesome.
Well, a lot of people in our
realm aren't those people, but
unfortunately there's more out
of the realm than in the realm.
There's I, I think there's cigar
smokers that are in that realm.
There's cigar smokers that don't
want certain cigars going to
California.
I I don't, I don't think that in
their mind, but I just think
that they like the laws in
California.
I just want to know where over
regulation is actually a good
thing and someone says yes this,
this is fine I'm OK with all of
this you know, and not be a bot.
There's some Karen somewhere who
all gung ho with everything
they're doing I'm sure.
Probably.
Crazy.
It's wild, man.
Yeah, I'll pray for you guys in
California.
Just kidding, I don't really.
Pray no, you're not going to.
Just kidding, You're not really
going to I.
Don't really pray.
I'll OK, maybe I'll pray for
you.
Oh, maybe.
Well, it's getting worse,
Michael.
Oh God.
Wisconsin governor vetoes the
bill that would have allowed for
more new cigar bars.
Oh my God, what?
Wisconsin.
And Wisconsin.
No new cigar bars in Wisconsin.
Turns out there will not be new
cigar bars in Wisconsin on
Friday.
Governor Tony Evers announced
that he was voting, vetoing 9
bills that were recently passed
by the state's legislature,
including one that would have
allowed for new cigar bars in
the state.
Last month, the Wisconsin
legislature passed AB211A bill
that would have modified the
state's 2009 smoking ban to
allow for a new license for
tobacco bars.
In 2009.
Law bans that creation of new
cigar bars in the state, but an
effort was made to try to exempt
them.
AB211 would have allowed for a
new license if they met 9
different conditions including
having air filtration, banning
anyone under the age 21 years of
old from hearing the premises,
having employees acknowledge
they are working in a smoking
environment, and more.
Now, those efforts are for not.
Cigar bars that were operating
as of June 4th, 2009, when the
state's indoor smoking ban was
signed into law, are able to
remain open.
In a statement, Eaver said that
as a former smoker and cancer
survivor, he could not sign the
bill.
OK, that's a smoking gun right
there.
Former smoker of what?
What did you formerly smoke
cigarettes and and that brings
me back to the same thing over
and over again that we continued
to have a problem with in this
industry.
Every time that we're mentioned
cigars, like, hey, I ran into a
guy today.
What do you do for a living?
You ask me, Go, oh, I own a
cigar store.
He goes, oh, I used to smoke.
I instantly said cigarettes.
And he goes, yeah, hey, buddy,
not the same thing, right?
It's not the same thing.
You're not like us.
So stop.
You're not one of us.
Shit, stop.
You know, stop telling people
you are.
You know, oh, and he's like, oh,
well, you know, I smoked a
couple cigars, too.
I'm like, OK, but which one did
you smoke habitually?
Oh, cigarettes, like, OK.
All right, dude, we're in two
totally different realms.
Stop lumping it all together,
man.
Stop lumping us together with
vape.
Stop lumping us together with
cigarettes.
Well, they're not really
lumping, though.
Like if you think about it like
in California, do cigarettes
have to do the same thing that
cigars are having to do?
Yeah, they don't do the
mentholated, I think.
Anymore.
Well it's all banished at this
point now, but in California
it's more geared towards vape.
So they have to do the pay the
whatever per.
No, there's no vapes at all
'cause all vapes are flavored.
There's not like a unflavored
vape, right?
Well, they're all gone.
They're all flavored.
Yeah, they want to be a smoke
Free State.
You can't be a smoke Free State.
Well, you can.
I mean, all you have to do is
look at.
They smoke weed there.
Look, if you go back and look.
It's not the same thing.
If you go back and look at basic
data you could see that state of
Florida has cigar smoking places
all all over the place.
No problems.
Like just go look at the data.
Right.
Instead of just making these
ridiculous rules and
regulations, it makes absolutely
no sense.
We're all dying of skin cancer,
not lung cancer.
No, you know what we're look,
heart attack, cancer, one's
going to get you.
It doesn't matter what you do.
Right.
If you're a male, especially
right heart attack, cancer.
If you If you survive, those two
Alzheimer's will get you.
Right.
Oh my God.
Oh jeez.
That's the reality.
This is not good.
We all have freaking ADHD and
anxiety.
Anxiety and.
You're just kicking.
Us up right now, Mike.
You gotta work.
What are those 3?
Great.
Oh, I went to three and look,
I'm so I'm, I'm so nervous I'm
getting wrong cameras.
So there's three of us here.
I mean, each one of us is gonna
have one of them.
Right.
Alzheimer's, Alzheimer's, heart
attack and cancer.
I got, oh, look, I'll tell you
this.
Here, here's, here's, here's
I'll tell you right now.
My dad had a heart attack and he
died.
He didn't take care of himself.
But I got news for you
genetically.
I'll probably have a heart
attack.
Maybe I'll skip.
I'll skip a generation.
I'll probably.
Have it, Greg.
You.
Know now I'm hoping that it's at
a later age because I do
everything right as far as.
Sure, I'm pretty healthy all the
time.
You know, I eat right, I
exercise.
I, you know, wow, cold plunge
the the sauna.
Outbox cold plunge, right?
Whatever, you know, whatever.
The book says.
I do hair gel.
I do my best, yeah.
I do my best to take care of
myself.
So hopefully.
But the reality is that it's
probably going to be that my
aunt, she got COVID heart
failure.
You're making it so worse for me
and Palmer, right?
Now I'm getting Alzheimer's.
I'm going to the hospital,
right?
After this, my grandmother, my
father, my mother, yeah, yeah,
they all.
I'm on a roll.
Yeah, you don't know what the
Hell's going on right now.
Right.
I don't even know who you guys
are.
And you're not even officially
diagnosed.
Yet I'm glad I can just read
this.
At least I have something to
talk about.
Thank.
God, there's words there, right?
But like, that's, that's the
reality.
I think that there's it's it's,
you know, what was it?
I've used this quote like
episode 200 and something, but
you know Gladiator, right?
Death smiles at us all.
All you can do is smile back.
It's the truth.
I say it to my kids too, like
when they're terrified of going
on a roller coaster.
I'm like, here's how, here's the
best approach.
Just go on thinking maybe you're
going to die.
Oh God, and.
Just what I do when I fly.
And just accept it for what it.
Is what you do every time you
get.
On a plane, it's like, you know,
it's not how you really do this,
is it?
This is it.
If you, if you accept it for
what it is, the anxiety's gone.
It's out the door.
Yeah, I'm not worried about
dying.
You're not panicking.
There's no, there's no way
around it.
Everybody does eventually.
Right.
Nobody gets out of life alive.
Not a single person.
There's one guy.
There's not one guy.
He's dead now.
No, Highlander.
He.
He.
Never.
But there can be only one.
There can only be only one of
those only.
Be 1.
And if you're not, they cut your
head off and you die.
So yeah, there you go.
How are you at sword fighting?
You any good?
I'm really good at hiding.
I'm.
Good at.
Hiding they can.
Find you.
They can't cut my head off.
They can't.
Find they can tell when one's in
the other room or something
There's a thing when they get
they get close their their Dick
vibrates or.
Something oh is.
That Oh, wow.
What kind of show are you
watching?
Yeah.
This must be one of those movies
on the cruise.
Line.
It was by Lander.
I'm sorry, completely different
shows.
They still weren't killed, so I
don't know when I thought I had
the right movie.
Oh my.
Goodness.
China, you just say if they're
speaking English, she wants it.
I don't know.
Oh, wow, now we're all
depressed.
Roll.
Down well, I'm going to the
hospital and having tests.
After we say to the Lord of
death, not today.
Not today, ISIS.
Given that the bill passed 1815
in the Wisconsin Senate, it
seems unlikely there will be
enough votes to meet the 2/3 of
sub supermajority that it would
take to override Evers veto.
You got to love it when the
people voted for something or
and the IT goes through the
proper channels and and then it
goes to the top guy and he's
like, fuck, that just comes out
the window like, Oh, you guys
wanted this.
Oh, you have spoken.
You know what?
Why?
Do they bother?
Why don't they just let him
decide?
Yeah, you know, why don't we
just give him a crown?
I could have saved six months of
you guys arguing.
Just bring it to me, yeah?
Got to be a little quicker, got?
To be quicker than that.
All right, Terry Gallagher
Junior was elected to chairman
of the CAA.
That's Cigar Associates of
America.
Last week, the Cigar Association
of America, CAA, held its annual
meeting where it elected a new
board.
I wonder where they have their
meeting.
Probably in a garage.
Bora Bora.
TAA gets always down in the
Dominican Republic at that fancy
hotel.
Yeah.
Terry Gallagher Junior, the CEO
and chairman of the board of
that company that owned Smokers
Friendly, has been elected as
the new chairman of the CAA.
Do you know, is this a singular
job?
I mean, do you just do in charge
of CAA now?
I I have no idea.
I didn't know if you knew.
No, I don't.
There was not.
I tried to look it up, there was
no mention.
Probably because they're getting
paid millions.
You know, I didn't think to look
up what he was getting.
Paid, I don't think getting paid
millions, but it's it's a
decent.
Chance.
It's a six figure, you know, I'm
sure he succeeds Javier Estedes,
the head of Tabliculari USA, who
has served in the role for
nearly a decade.
OK, so if he's still in charge
of Tabliculari USA, maybe it's
not a singular?
There you go.
Smoker Friendly is a Colorado
based company that includes a
few different verticals.
Mostly notable is more than 350
Smoker Friendly tobacco outlets.
It also owns gas stations,
liquor stores, some cigar
focused retail locations, and
the Rocky Mountain Cigar
Festival.
Javier's leadership, vision and
steady handmade strength hand
have strengthened CAA and help
unite the industry.
You all right over there?
I asked all over myself.
I thought you're on fire or
something for a minute it.
Happens all the time.
I remember we said like 100
episodes ago like hey, if I ever
have ash on me, let me know so I
can dust it off, right?
He has yet to really tell me.
So I love doing my clips and I'm
like covered in ash.
Covered in ash.
Well, I'm not used.
To I felt like you're doing
great.
Thanks, I'm not used to sitting
like this.
Lean back with the with a mic
here where you can't move so.
I'm honored to follow in his
footsteps and look forward to
working closely with our members
as we continue protecting and
promoting the interest of the
entire cigar industry.
In addition, the CAA elected the
following officials vice chair.
Anybody want to guess?
Do we want to guess?
He's a famous person.
Oh, he's like, wait a second, is
he famous in the cigar?
Industry famous in the cigar
industry.
Sorry, outside of the cigar
industry, nobody knows who any.
Of us are Newman.
Right, Eric Newman, JC Newman,
Cigar Company treasurer.
That was that was right.
Yeah, that was right.
The treasurer We're not going to
know.
Carrie Fried, ITG Brands
Secretary Henry Romer, PD Dejarm
Germ.
Germ.
The Jarms.
I don't know.
I was going to say PT Barnum,
and then I caught myself.
On behalf of the entire cigar
industry, I want to express our
deepest gratitude to Javier for
his extraordinary leadership,
wisdom and unwavering dedication
over the past nine years, said
Scott Pierce, the CE as
president.
Oh wait, so chairman's not the
same as president?
Nope.
So the president is a singular
job.
That's all the president's
getting paid.
Scott Pierce is getting paid.
Yeah, all the chairman's are
getting paid.
I don't think Jeremy.
So why do they need a chairman
if they have a president?
I don't know, probably a pool of
voting and decision making and
all of that stuff.
I know that you're used to the
dictatorship of just me just
calling the shots or whatever.
Right, What do they need more
than one person?
It's back to the governor thing.
He just goes, you know, poop.
We're not doing that.
Vetoed.
Javier leaves the association
stronger and more focused and
better positioned to protect and
promote the cigar industry.
The CAA is one of the three main
cigar related trade groups.
Oh, there's a there's like a
head.
There's like a three headed
monster that ran everything.
His membership is unique and
that includes companies that
sell handmade and mass marketed
cigars.
Some of those companies like
Scandinavian Tobacco Group and
Swisher produce both types
though other companies like Cle
Cigar company or ITG.
What's ITG?
International Tobacco Group.
Probably that sounds good.
Produce only one type of cigar.
In addition thinking anymore,
some of the largest cigar
retailers are also CAA members.
What'd you?
Say he's on his phone.
No, I was looking at the like
it's on you right now Cigar
Association.
I have I have some money you
guys want to hear.
You have some money.
Yeah, money.
Money talks.
Owe them.
Oh, you know, like how much they
make.
Sure, OK.
So this is allegedly.
Yeah, allegedly.
This is from 2023.
Their total revenue was 5
million, $5,000,000.
Wow.
Five million, $5 million.
Their total assets is 2.2
million, Number of employees was
4.
At the time, no taxes that way.
Number of employees?
What 4?
Was four at the time.
Brian Fachitik, senior vice
president of government affairs.
He made 199,000.
Christopher Christopher Newberry
This one makes a little bit
more.
What's he do?
Vice president of State
relations.
I'll take that job. 200,000.
I.
Was like, oh I'll take a dollar
more.
Yeah, you could.
You could have that job.
There's 50 things I got to do.
You only got to do one.
Yeah.
I was like.
That's they got some grants.
They got $376,000 in grants from
WHO?
The.
Government, yeah, I mean the.
Government's the one who don't
want us to do stuff.
None of this makes any sense.
I don't know.
How much does Scott Pierce make?
Does it say how much he makes?
Because we know he left to to
make more money here, Yeah.
No, doesn't say him.
Well, wait, we know how much
Joshua makes.
Yeah.
What did Joshua make it was it
was like.
Two or three, It was like 300.
They're not on here as personnel
for CAA.
So there must be like, there
must be two different things.
There must be a committee and
then a board.
Right.
That's what I was saying.
There's a president, a vice
president, but there's also a
chairman, a vice chairman.
Yeah, so the.
Who tells who what to do?
The chairman and vice chairman
are not on here.
Maybe they're non paid position,
maybe those are.
I would love the job you.
Want to be the unpaid job I.
Don't know I want the pay job.
Yeah, the pay job.
Yeah.
Paying job.
Yeah, that'd be great.
I want the lady's job, that all
she does is plan the trip for
the TAA every year.
What do you think?
State like friend becoming state
friend thing, the 200 K like
what does that require you go
when you have some dinners?
Hey, you have some dinners.
Shake a few hands.
How are you?
Talk to a governor too, you
know.
You know.
Maybe a couple of dirty parties.
Couple of dirty parties.
I'm not going to that.
I hear the injection with
ammonia if you don't like it.
Yeah, I'm not getting sucked
into.
That I'm doing that I'm going to
get all greasy and then smell
like ammonia, Yeah.
Then they're gonna want you to
vote not to have cigars in
California, right?
Yeah, here's what we're gonna
do.
We're just gonna veto it.
Like, OK, great.
Here's what I need you to.
Think, hey, remember that bar
thing?
Yeah, it passed.
OK, What are we gonna do?
Just shut it down?
Just so really, I'm not gonna do
that.
Do you want another 500,000 in
grants?
Yeah, just tell him no.
Yeah.
I couldn't get to all the state
people, so you just say no one
time.
You know, I used to smoke
cigarettes and the media just
dumps all this off to stupid
people and they all think that
that's the same thing.
So perfect.
Perfect.
Here's the excuse I had cancer
from the things I used to smoke.
It's like the Epstein list.
Well, you guys are still talking
about that.
But yeah, we are.
We're still talking about it.
There is no list that you can
see.
Whatever, I guess we'll OK.
Wow, Wild, wild stuff.
What a country.
Where we leave off at?
What where we're now?
It's a new story.
That's the end of the story
alright.
There's a new documentary
chronicles the Alleva Tobacco
Company, a historical and
present day look at one of the
industries most important
players.
On Friday, the Tampa Bay
Underground Film Festival will
be screening Oh Sorry This past
Friday screened a documentary
that chronicles the Oliva
Tobacco growing family and its
enormous importance to the
premium cigar industry called
Succeeding Against the Odds.
The Oliva Tobacco Story.
The documentary will be shown
was was shown at 3:15 at the NCG
Cinema in the Citrus Park Center
Town Mall.
The contribution that the Oliva,
well, most malls aren't open
anymore and I'm sure the
theater's not either.
So clean up the one theater we
got to show a movie.
Super specific.
Dust it off.
Dust it all off.
Pick up the popcorn.
The contribution that the Oliva
family has made and continues to
make to the cigar world cannot
be overstated.
In 1934, Oliva Tobacco was
started by Cigar Aficionado Hall
of Famer Angela Oliva's Angel
Angel Oliva's senior.
He was a tireless broker of
Cuban tobacco supply and leaf to
the US market back when there
was a thriving cigar
manufacturing industry in the
United States, especially in
Tampa.
After the Cuban embargo took
hold, Oliva began planting Cuban
seeds throughout Central and
South America.
If you talk to the veterans are
Garmin Breakers of today, many
say that the industry would be
where it wouldn't be where it is
now if it weren't for the Olivas
foresight and fortitude.
Well, that's good.
Yeah.
So I watched the trailer.
That's all the availability I
had to was the trailer.
OK, OK.
First they all they had a
microphone, but they didn't turn
it on.
No.
So they had lapel mics, but they
didn't turn it on.
So you could just see their
mouths moving, no?
No, you could hear it, but it
was like far away.
That's one of the biggest pet
peeves I have is the sound
quality of something now because
of the eight years we've been
doing this.
The Espinoza show that we just
aired where Eric's talking like
this.
But you and him talked at the
same time and you can't
separate.
We don't have the the ability to
separate the sound things.
We can do music and and vocals
separate, but we can't separate
vocal, vocal, vocal.
Not the way our system.
Records, well, all the clips
that I had was him talking and
it was low.
Oh, could you just turn up the
on those clips?
I forgot you had the clip the.
Clipping thing but when I can do
it, I can do it on cap cut.
Oh, it's already on your hard
drive upstairs.
Perfect.
Because and they didn't even
mention some of the best clips.
So I'm I'm gonna drop a couple
bombs here this week.
It's gonna be fantastic.
And the camera quality was
terrible.
If this was a real movie type
thing, it was.
It was terrible.
It was shot bad, it sounded
terrible.
And to be honest with you, it
didn't seem too exciting.
Maybe that's where we go in the
future.
Maybe that's whether that's the
deal.
We're going to documentary
filmmaking.
We, you know, we become the.
The storytellers of the
industry, the.
Storytellers of the industry.
Yeah, but we will.
We will need, you know, some
money sponsors.
Yeah.
Espinosa maybe we can get two
more cameras.
Right, two more cameras.
We're going to need money for
plane tickets.
I just I got news for you.
We're we're in Florida.
Where are you flying to?
We got two more cameras.
You want to know else?
Are we going to start buying
masks?
No.
Right.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh, yes.
The return of Phil, my friend.
Phil's dead.
No, he's not.
He's not.
Everybody loved Phil.
Everybody loved Phil.
Oh, I did.
They did.
They just thought it was great
to see me tortured.
Go back and look at some of the
comments on the videos and like
Phil's the best.
Phil's incredible.
Those are rough days.
They're not behind you.
I got news for you buddy.
All right, the hour and a half
documentary was researched and
written by executive producer
Seth Schwartz and directed by
Alvin Daniels, who shot the
footage on a digital HD Canon T7
and A4K Black Magic Pocket
camera.
I'm sorry, are those good
cameras?
The Black Magic 1 is.
He must not know how to use it.
It features never before seen
family home movies, historical
photographs and interviews with
Angel Son John Oliva Senior, his
grandson John Junior and Trey
Oliva, and such prominent cigar
makers as Carlos Fuente Junior
and Eric Newman.
Now, between people they would
interview, they use these
caricature drawings.
Looked like they were done at
the fair.
Yeah.
And they were terrible.
I mean really, I could do those.
You could AI something better
right now.
Oh, certainly, yeah.
I watch the AI video of a
storyline of Little Mack from
Mike Tyson's Punch Out.
Like he just needed a better
storyline.
Like I needed to know more about
him.
And somebody built this whole
thing about him and how he was
coming up.
He was struggling to pay the
bills.
And then he was, and then they
had him fighting all the, they
had him Glass Joe, they had him
fighting all everybody.
And then it LED up to at the
very end, him fighting Mike
Tyson.
They didn't show that fight.
It was awesome.
It was like 2 minutes long.
It was incredible.
I'll, I'll, I'll clip it on
here.
All right, now it's time for
what's the score?
First cigar.
Now, I was 500 against Espinoza
and I beat him on his own cigar,
just for the record.
Oh, you played?
You, you guys played?
Yep.
Sure, why wouldn't we?
Well, you think it just.
We had to explain the game to
him, but other than that.
You think it just ends 'cause
you're not.
Here, I do.
I do like the I I like the way
we set.
OK, first, everybody's wrong.
I should not be the way we do
the show all the time.
No, no.
But I did like how when the
camera was on me, sometimes he
would lean in.
He could see his arm into.
The shot so he could look at the
teleprompter.
Cheater.
You look shorter in that too.
The table.
The table was up to here.
All right.
December 6th, 2025.
This is a review by Brooks
Whittington.
The cigar is the Patina review
Patina Red Pill 5 by 54 BP.
OK, Box press, would you like to
go first, Sir, or would you like
me to go first?
No, you go first.
Brooks, Patina.
Recent Small.
This is the new one.
We have a new and an old every
week. 86.
Mr. Boots. 84.
This is the Patina red pill 5 by
54 box press country of origin
is Nicaragua factory Nicaragua
American cigars essay rapper
Mexico San Andreas oscuro binder
USA Connecticut broadleaf filler
Nicaragua and USA Length 6
inches by 54 box press $13 They
smoked a free.
San Andreas and Broadleaf.
And American fillers.
I'm sticking 86.
Yeah, 84.
The only thing that might save
this is the box press.
The consistency.
OK, first clue.
The consistency is in
construction is impressive.
Great draw, strong smoke output,
and a visually sharp box press
presentation.
Even with the flavor variations,
all three cigars performed
smoothly and showed real
craftsmanship.
Clicky clicky clicky.
You make them mad.
You do that a lot with your nose
when you're when you're doing
this video too.
Oh my mustache goes up when I
talk and it tickles my nose.
Was that the end?
Yes, we have to trim it.
I'm growing it out to be Santa
for the school.
Are you?
Yeah.
Oh, you haven't heard?
No.
Oh yeah, On the what's the
what's the last day on the 18th,
I'm there at 7:00 AM to greet
the children as they come to
school for the last day.
And then this Friday, I am the
Grinch for How the Grinch Stole
Christmas movie night at the
elementary school.
When you use the Santa, hold on,
when is this?
I'm Santa on the 18th.
On the 18th, yeah, I told them I
couldn't do the 19th to their
party.
Thursday.
Yeah, it's a Thursday.
I couldn't do Friday because we
have that thing here.
Oh, can I make that film you?
If you want to.
I don't see what I got there,
can't really tell it's me.
As Santa Claus.
Yeah, I mean, there's a hat,
there's a there's a beard.
My beard won't be long enough by
then, but having you?
Should just be like the miracle
on whatever St.
I am going to be him here on the
19th.
You first of all you should
totally just Rep the the beard
that you have.
I would not add a beard.
No, no.
All right, we'll see when it
gets to be the 19th because it's
still still a week I.
Think it's you're good where
you're at.
Yeah, you're like the interim
Santa Claus.
No, it's like, I think it's like
it's a it's a reasonable Santa,
like you're, you know, you're
groomed, right?
Yeah, I wouldn't.
I would rock that.
How about the wig?
Because it gives you the long
flowing white hair.
The wig and the beard are
separate.
I wouldn't have either one of
those.
Gotcha.
'Cause you look authentic.
It's like wait a second, like he
the hair, you know, this is,
this isn't fake.
He's the guy.
And then they're going to run
into when they turn, you know,
the age of 21, they're going to
say, wait a second.
Wait a minute, who was that man?
I know him all.
Right.
Did you guys vote?
I.
Do I need to read it again?
No.
No, I the, the, the draws are
all good.
I'm going to I'm going to slide
up to 88.
I knew the the box press was
going to make it smoke well.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to stay
at 84.
I don't I again I I don't see
anything changing.
OK.
All right, next clue.
For all the complexity this
blend tries to deliver, the
flavor profile ends up feeling
more confused than balanced.
There it is.
Once the second third hits, the
raw asparagus and gritty earth
accommodations take over tastes.
Like asparagus?
Over so aggressively that it
drowns out the more appealing
notes, like the cocoa, the
cinnamon, the peanuts.
Instead of evolving, the profile
feels hijacked by that vegetable
note, which makes a cigar come
across as harsh and uneven.
The lack of spice and pepper on
the retro hill also leaves the
profile feeling flat when it
should be opening up.
It's a lot of movement, but not
a lot of harmony in the cigar.
Never quits or finds a
satisfying direction.
And we're back to 86.
Yeah, 84.
All right, next clue.
The inconsistency between the
three cigars is hard to ignore.
Each one seems to be telling a
slightly different story, from
the varying levels of ammonia on
the foot to the shifting
sweetness.
Milk chocolate in one, dense
fudge in another.
Burnish shoes pop up as well,
with several touch ups needed.
Despite the cigars looking
identical and well pressed, even
the finish jumps around,
horseradish on some, earthy
coffee on the others.
Instead of feeling like a
controlled variation, it feels
unpredictable and a little
sloppy, making it tough to
understand what the cigar is
truly supposed to be. 84 Your
move.
Was this the last one?
Yeah, then we have final
thoughts. 84.
All right, final thoughts.
I've enjoyed some.
To move this is to budget.
I've enjoyed some patina
releases in the past, including
fantastic Oro de Nicaragua, and
was interested to see how the
Red pill brought to sea.
What the red pill brought to the
table.
The profile is full of in
different flavors including
cocoa nibs, raw asparagus, oak
and Mesquite.
And while it is a fuller body
blend, the lack of anything
significant, pepper or spice
combined with some stronger
sweetness on the retro Hale
makes his cigar extremely
approachable.
This is one of the better patina
cigars I've smoked and a nice
option for someone who is
looking for a fuller body blend
with a smoother profile.
Now what?
Oh, this guy sucks, but it's the
best one I've had that he's.
Married.
When I say it sucks, I mean that
it was.
Can any of you stand raw
asparagus?
I love.
It I'm going to the point where
I don't even like regular
asparagus.
Raw asparagus.
You love it.
No, I'm just kidding.
Oh God, it's got to at least be
roasted or something.
Like just for.
A second.
So we buy it all the time and it
I just don't.
I'm not tired of it. 86.
He sounds like he fucking loves
it.
I'm gonna go 87.
No, what he said, OK, you guys
are both voted.
What he said was it's the best
one that I've had from him, from
Bettina.
That doesn't mean he likes it.
I mean, it's the best, could be
the best of whatever.
It's 88.
Yes.
You have to buy one.
I was right off the jump or.
No, I was close.
You're close.
No, they're your second one
because you didn't go up to 88.
All right, Next Cigar from 2015.
It is reviewed by Patrick.
It is Davidoff Dominican
Republic limited edition redux.
The Avo Heritage.
Lancero.
I never had it.
Dude, it's your turn.
Oh, there's only one avo that I
like.
This is it.
Not like the Caribe, is it?
The Korean one What?
Caribe OH, but a lot of people
like Abo because it's Davidoff I
guess.
So I'll, I'll go 90. 88 It's the
abo heritage Lancero is from the
Dominican Republic.
It is the factory OK cigars.
The rapper is Ecuadorian sun
grown.
That's O period K period cigars.
That's where it was made
Ecuadorian sun grown because we
found out there's not Ecuadorian
shade.
Dominican Republic Vicente is
the binder, Dominican the
fillers Dominican Republic
Lejero and seco Peruvian Seco.
It's a 7A quarter by 40 lancero.
They only smoked one because it
is a redux.
I'll stick at 90. 88.
The ash performance is
disappointing, dropping
unexpectedly at barely half an
inch for a lancero that
otherwise burns clean.
The inability to hold even a
modest ash makes the cigar feel
less refined and more fragile
than its presentation suggest.
Boots. 89. 87 The pepper build
up becomes excessive as a cigar
progresses.
What starts as a balance profile
slowly becomes dominated by
white and black pepper, pushing
the more enjoyable peanut butter
note into the background and
stripping the retro hell of its
initial smoothness. 86. 87.
The final third takes a downturn
as a profile shifts into a
chalky, earthy finish after
promising start with warm, sweet
and bready notes.
Ending on a dry, muted
chalkiness makes his scar feel
like it loses under any right
when it should be delivering A
memorable clothes. 86 is.
That the final thought, No what?
Final thoughts coming next.
OK, 87.
Final thought, given how much I
enjoy the ABO Heritage Lencera,
when I smoked it 10 months ago I
had fairly high hopes for how it
would smoke for a redux, and
unfortunately the answer is
simple.
Fantastic.
The only thing I didn't like
about the ABO Heritage Lencera
was the Ashes unwillingness to
hold on for more than the
shortest of spans.
Though if that's all I have to
complain about for an otherwise
fantastic cigar, I'll gladly
take it without a single word
more.
Go ahead, boots. 88. 89 I win.
95. 95. 95.
Boom, I should have known better
about.
I was going to, I was going to
strike up to 92, but I still
wouldn't have nailed it.
Should have known better.
OK.
All right.
Did anybody got anything else?
Nope, no.
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Something like that.
We're we're ripping through them
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It's hard to keep.
Yeah, it's hard to keep track
now.
Pedal to the metal.
Have we still got no recognition
of being the bad guys of the
industry?
Nothing else has been said as
far as I know.
No, no, they're, yeah, they're
not going to talk about us.
They're not going to mention us
at all, which is I'm perfectly
fine with that, to be honest.
I wish you made that a shirt.
Perfectly fine with that.
No, not.
Going to talk about us.
We're bad for that would be
we're.
Bad for the industry?
Bad for the industry?
Well, the next one that's coming
out is called Smoke and
Subscribe, so it's pretty bad us
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Show Notes
Now Today on the show: 2026 is shaping up to be the year to be naked on a boat in Florida, Netflix has come a long way since the days of mailing DVDs, and Dave Portnoy is demanding an investigation. In cigars, Warfighter isn’t heading east, there are no new cigar bars on the horizon, the CAA is making changes, and a new documentary on the Oliva family just dropped—we’ve got the first review. Then we wrap it all up with the industry’s favorite game: “What’s The Score!”