ACHP Episode 430 We Broke The Code
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That didn't flow well at all,
did it?
That that was me.
Or read better when you'd say,
Hey, bird, how you doing?
Hi, dudes.
Hi.
How are you?
Candy, candy, candy and they
show O I/O IA seizure.
We have cracked the code with
the loofahs.
A college coach was let go and
then went where he wasn't
welcomed.
The IRS starts making sinus
balance.
That's where the question, huh?
And then in cigar nears more
Midwest cigar shops.
VI was just one of one and Ahoya
and Quesada join forces and they
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what's the score?
But not to be forgotten, my Co
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standing room.
Morning ruin in sports.
Mikey, sit your ass down old man
step on couch.
Oh Michael, I don't mean
anybody.
Sit there, sit there.
Ask them.
My son stands the whole time.
Oh, your son does.
But you made the man sit down.
Like sit down and really kick
your voice.
I will make him sit down.
Oh, I go still the whole time.
He's behind makes no difference.
But he moved over and sat down.
He stood over time, I thought he
changed.
His wife even said that.
Oh, he.
Yeah.
But he never, he never.
He was never standing.
My son was standing.
That I know he was
understanding.
He was never standing.
I knew he wasn't.
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Just didn't happen.
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It has a big release.
That's a good release, yes.
The winter time, but how's the
time to go?
Yeah, I've been in Dakota or
wherever.
I'm, oh, the race car guy.
Indiana is Indiana.
That's California.
The race car guy.
Race car guy.
Oh, race, There was a guy Berry.
Is that in Indiana?
Yeah, I think some very well, I
mean bang it he could probably.
Use a beta, he says he's getting
cold there he's.
Like way up in the corner
somebody he's NN he's well-being
cool.
Yeah.
Somewhere is really cold,
though.
Right here.
The man.
Yeah, over well, Paul Newman
hand.
All right now we're moving into
the World News while they're
switching the controls, so I'll
they're stalled.
So we get everything set up over
there.
All right.
All right, we're set up.
Holiday Traveler is the worst.
In an attempt to streamline the
problems of Orlando has been
chosen as one of the test
locations for a new program.
Of course it has.
Orlando Airport is testing
facial recognition.
Here's what you need to know If
you're flying internationally
out of Orlando, you have noticed
something new at the gate.
Orlando International has
officially wheeled out a facial
recognition pilot program, and
over the next 90 days, they're
putting it to the test.
The idea is simple.
Move people faster without
sacrificing security.
Instead of handing over a
passport and boarding pass at
certain international departure
gates, passengers can walk up to
a camera system that scans their
faces, makes that noise,
actually, and matches it to a
government record already on
file.
If everything lines up, you
cleared the board.
No paperwork, no extra steps, no
passport needed.
I love it where if your face is
Shane from your passport though
on your passport.
Thought it was good for 10
years.
Now listen, no system is
perfect, right?
Yeah.
I've been.
I've been about.
This is a woman talking about.
You've already been facial
skinned.
Yeah.
What did you ask me You were
eating buttonsism, talking.
It was on.
Oh, yeah.
No, I used to because he was
watching the show.
He said, you know, well, I was
looking at Palmer screen.
It was kind of like the light in
the background is like Liney.
Yeah, yeah, I got that too.
Yeah, sorry or it says something
just mirrors by some with the
HDMI line by other.
Yeah, no, I've been a part of
this.
This is kind of cool.
Is is super quick.
Oh, you did a thing coming in
all double entry.
Yeah, that's a little different.
That's a separate program.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a separate program.
Yeah, this will be at the gate
as you leave.
No more printing out your ID.
Oh, that's even more convenient
because it's so hard to like,
fumble through everything while
you're trying to get on a plane.
You might ask some fool that
you're bringing on or.
That's what the area said.
People, some people show up to
the gate and they're like, oh, I
have to have my ID, you know, I
don't.
Well, you don't have it on red
as far as TSA is concerned.
Like no, at the gate when they
do the extra check at the gate
for international.
Oh OK, got it.
The program is being tested in
partnership with the US Customs
and Border Protection along with
multiple technology providers.
Airport officials are using this
trial period decompire systems,
measure accuracy and see how the
tech performs and reward
conditions.
With heavy passenger traffic,
participation is not mandatory.
Travelers who don't want to use
visual recognition can opt out
and go through the traditional
ID check.
That option will be made
available during the test.
Airport leaders say the goal is
cutting down boarding delays,
reducing congestion and
preparing for continued growth
in international travel.
Aranda is one of the busiest
airports in the country, and
official 0.
Technology like this could help
keep things moving as passenger
numbers climb.
So you think it's a good thing
or anything?
It's about the I don't see a
problem with the area before the
wing.
Like, it's not like, you know,
this is, this is making me
accessible to their system.
May only happen when you get a
passport.
They scan it and it's sometime
only right because when you come
back the guy scanned your
passport and you put your puffs
up on his screen.
Right now doesn't just AI is
verifying you OK, what about
you?
You think this is?
A good idea.
I think it was already being
done.
Yeah.
You know, so this is just they
just really do it.
Give it a less.
I I think this is more of a
deterrence up then a a speed up.
I think the speed up is the
excuse, right?
Like that's what they're telling
the public.
Oh, we're doing this to help
speed up the process, but I
think this is more of like a
anti terrorism deterrence, OK,
to be honest.
How's that inside terror?
Yeah.
How do?
How does this make these better?
Well, if you so you're obviously
deterrence is going to be a step
to to try to prevent something,
right.
So yeah, out there I do throwing
a camera, right, that's saying,
hey, we're taking your picture
and we know who you are, right.
It's going to a database.
You know, they may not go.
OK, well let's get on a plane
and Boo.
Opposed to me showing them my
picture and in human looks at my
picture and me.
Modia.
Yeah.
Yes a doodle leave it up.
That's in place as anti
terrorism.
You just don't know him.
If there is only a person
looking at the photo I could
sneak on the plane if they were
just checking instead and damn
it the computer will know I
don't look like the man in the
photo for old again it sounds
like it's just an efficiency
thing domain yeah me too is
where do a first I think it's
fine though I'll no problem with
that primary yeah yeah go when
they scan your license at TSA.
Does your picture come up on the
screen hotel or they're just
seeing that it's a real ID All
right obviously for the facial
recognition versus you you're
something something happens
because there I had a camera on
you right So where was I
bringing stuff loaded to the
right right exactly come closer
come as a come closer too closer
back up back up back up back up
by far too far too far too far
turn left.
No, the your left, not my left
right.
OK, just have 9 for those
minimum wage TSA paper.
Well, oh TSA all right really
you see this convenience we're a
concern.
One thing is Curry this 90 day
test.
How could shape how airport
analytically check in the
future, not just Nolinda, but
nationwide.
Where is the test market for
this stuff when they did clear
that was done in three or four
different purchase 3 or 4
different programs.
Yeah.
And then you picked one.
I mean, do you blame them?
No, I mean, well, you say we're
one of the busiest virgin in the
country, right.
Makes sense, right to where it's
going to get all the impact.
So it's like a yes, you know,
you do you test it and then do
you see always just like cancer
drugs and all that other stuff?
Yeah, well, I don't.
Want to take a cancer drug to
get on the plane?
That's a little.
No, you don't.
They you don't.
But however, you know, normally
you'll hear what this is a
trial, the drug, right, Right.
That's because they're testing
it out there.
They need to get data on a
massive member to determine if
it's effective or not.
Most of you, if you have cancer,
you like to sign up for the
trials and the what else you got
to what was sometimes.
Yeah, right.
The cancer swear you have to
lose or I would like to lose out
if I had it.
Yeah, that's what you have to
lose, right?
All right, we've cracked the
code.
We have.
We've cracked the code.
OK, I'm via full access.
And the hardest, Central
Florida.
Is this a picture perfect
retirement Japan that looks
quiet by day, but by night it
fuels one of the state's most
persistent rumors, The Villages.
The Villages is known for golf
carts, happy hours, social
preps, but long time residential
curious outsiders like whisper
about a hidden lifestyle
operating just beneath the
surface.
Whether Ray Stokes intrigue what
Ray Stokes intrigue are the
colored Rufus hanging from the
Gulf Coast to the uninitiated
eye their harness bath
accessories to those in the know
there were were to be coded
signal system quietly
advertising interests of our
ability or curiosity about The
Villages more adventurous social
sea.
Whether we're in fact
exaggeration or folklore, the
loofah code has become legend
stories travel fast.
You're the brains in the parking
lot a chat at a happy hour and
suddenly everyone speculating.
Some residents laugh at office
bored gossip others.
He says it's a real if discreet
part of the village culture.
True or not, the river's real
something universal.
You win retirement.
People crave connection,
excitement and we're in Wolstry
and in this Central Florida
village, a simple loofah may say
northern words ever could.
And we have cracked the loofah
code.
Boost, you know the Kudos
account?
No, I don't know.
I guess we know now, but.
Now we know you know what they
mean.
No, all right.
It's a white loose.
What?
What does that mean?
You guys want to guess these?
Yeah, yeah, I want Boost to
guess.
Oh my gosh.
What's the white would mean?
Boots of neutral.
White probably means that well,
they know what you're you know
we're just standard pretty close
gentlemen, the beginners vodka
Bridgewood of this that's what
we're new to this is was why
reefer back.
Please be gentle.
All right, purple.
The purple almost was weird to
me.
OK, What do you mean?
OK, that close birds.
Yeah, like a Barney's hot type.
You know I'm going to wear any.
Oh.
Like man, I was specific you
there like stuff to any like
just name.
So all side note, we are the
original Barney gun Yeah, is now
a sex therapist and he
attributes his knowledge to the
I love you, we love me that he
started with the Barney thing.
Really.
People pay money to have him
have sex with them.
Nah, Barbie.
Yes, he's a weird sex therapist.
Oh, so he's like so he's got
also has a purple loofah.
No, no.
Well, he could, but that's I
doubt it could be probably.
I don't think he's purple.
Whereas Diddy's guy had a proper
woof.
They went them around kids.
They're this guy's a well, not
in the beginning, but since he
has been Bunny now it's been.
Several years that they've been
bar into these guys, you know,
Barney, the Blues Clues guy,
who's the Blues guy might.
Be here too.
No, I thought Steve got in
trouble.
No student in trouble.
The original Steve.
No, he's doing it again.
He's just bald now.
Wow, I thought Steve got in
trouble.
No, no, Steve did not get in
trouble.
Don't stop it.
Pee Wee Herman was kind of why
Pee Wee Herman.
You'll see.
You like to go to the movies and
at least the where I was on this
dope base.
That's sure the where my
children Wizard Ernest, like the
Wizard of somewhere Ernest.
Do not Batmouth Ernest.
He's dead.
I love artist.
I want movies.
Ernest goes to Joe.
Ernest goes to King.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ernest goes to the mean.
Ernest's eye.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Happy wall.
Why it's so purple?
Puzzles.
A voyeur you like to watch?
Oh.
Wow, it's definitely post a bird
the Barney.
Well, no, I mean, you like to
watch other people, not like you
watch.
I mean, I guess you could watch
your own life, but it's more
like I'd like to watch other
people have sex.
God, it's like weak but it's
purple's the it's an old guy to
watch.
Pink would probably be.
Maybe you are, I don't fucking
know.
Multiple female run on the soft
swap.
Oh Cyrus soft swap yes yeah, we
kind of knew into it and maybe
you're not comfortable.
OK, I guess that were about me
soft and then blue.
No old burn.
Yeah, well, it's like a house.
So what you're?
Wearing blue bit of level,
you're selective, so that's a
selective.
OK, and yellow raise mid level.
You're curious, but you're
cautious, 'cause I'm the let
that be.
Yeah, no kidding.
Yellow, white, the black, blacks
where you go.
Apparently it's full swap, no
limits, no hesitations.
Whoever walks up to you, you
just just just going right at
having at it, having on it.
And then teal.
This is a nice one.
This must be like the Super
extreme like I do to my wife.
This is the bisexual.
Where we do, that's a bisexual
like man inland semi resonance
but the word is on their golf
guard thinking it's just a
decoration.
But all sorts of confusion is
happening, people get upset.
So if you live in The Villages,
make sure you know what kind of
advertising you are doing.
Come on man, you really think?
A normal decoration on a golf
cart is a loofer.
Yes, yes, Burger, we say you
move to the villages.
They don't advertise this when
they sell you a house to sell
you.
It's not hey, by the way, we
have all the Jesus here.
If you like to pick one out for
the new home, feel free with the
magic there or so you'll see
right.
So you see all the golf carts
driving around, you know, and
the life goes, Oh no, I like the
pink one.
Let's put the pink one on our
golf cart.
You know, we're not thinking it
means anything.
It's a it's a villages thing and
it's very new where the pink
people weren't available, But
next year, you know, some guys
work up.
Do you go?
Hey, I'd like to fuck you up.
Do you want to munch Assafo meme
ring.
Oh, that's what you said.
Well, yes, I mean, I did potato.
We're we're at this gently bad
gently.
I'd like to just jet Liu bank.
May I?
Oh, you have a black one.
No, I could put both of you or.
Where this guy's really where he
got a multi colored one, right?
He could only do other jackets.
Oh, that guy, he's the DJ for
the beverages.
He has all.
Of the Montana's Golf Club.
BJJC no man birds but Mary, Is
this every three?
Turn.
You leave this in the past.
Yeah.
I don't know.
See Koopis up to that.
Hello, Black.
He was fun.
He's going to get the Black Lou
for an eye.
Like a bouquet toss, Yeah.
All right now there we go.
Our ACHP Sports former Michigan
football coach charged with a
crime after he was fired.
Yes, this is a disaster.
Ex University of Michigan
football coach Sharona Moore was
arraigned on three charges
yesterday for crimes allegedly
committed hours after the school
firing bus.
Security charged Moore with
felony third degree home
invasion, as well as stalking in
a domestic relationship and
breaking and entering, both
misdemeanors.
The university said Moore was
fired because of his race ship
with a woman who also worked for
the school.
And at the time he was fired,
Moore had nearly 12.3 million
remain on his contract.
Oh, so you can't date and said
the school system?
No.
Somebody should see if you're
married.
Oh, was he near him?
They didn't say he was Noel.
Yeah.
No, you're not want to.
No, you're not want to.
There was no sexual assault
charges there, right?
No.
This was consensual, no?
No, it was a break in Mandarin.
The stuff you know where.
Or apparently.
Whether the school.
Probably charge him with the
well she ratted him out Yeah, a
bad OK, like I'm you can read
the news article, but I I don't
know the story and I'm still
trying to explain it.
Now you're cutting me off like
he does.
Oh perfect.
Oh yeah.
So from what I understand, just
from what I saw on Instagram,
this other social media
platforms, is that the air grill
broke it off and he kind of went
crazy and look into her house
and hold had the butter knife to
his neck.
The zeal, allegedly, of course.
Yeah.
Like, you know, I'm going to,
you know, this is what you do to
me.
I don't know, something like
that, Who knows?
But, yeah, he was like, he went
off the deep end, allegedly.
So Pressure's claim that after
being terminated, he barged his
way into the apartment of the
woman who he had been involved
for a number of years before she
broke up with him in a phone
school, prompting his dismissal
and threatened to kill himself.
There it is.
I put the Butter Knight to his
own throat.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought would break to her
throat.
No.
How do I live without you?
Yeah.
What about this?
I mean, how dangerous is the
butter Knight cleaning?
I hope maybe you do yourself out
there.
I believe he kills him.
We used to do something better
now if on your throat.
I mean, you might have to saw a
little bit if you're going to be
a worse.
Oh, jam man.
Well, all right.
I mean what you case up with a
stick?
If you're just going to jam it,
I mean.
This guy this guy was an alleged
leader of men.
Remember, this guy was a.
Coach and this is the.
Only one that he's ever been
off.
No other than his rice.
He was married.
He lists $12.3 million, Right.
What do we do?
Ellen Luford.
Does she have her?
But she has her.
She's a two.
Oh, yeah, apparently.
Well, then you could have bought
the wife in on it and then went
everywhere and find her.
The wife wouldn't consent.
Football points, we mean?
No.
Is it?
Well, she already had that.
Sure.
You all the 12.3 coming?
No, I'm sad.
Yeah.
Now she's got to find another
Coach Breet.
Yeah.
Inside.
Is she part of the deal?
In the sign of counter.
Hey, listen, we need you to take
this.
We need serve here.
Mr. C, how's your comma?
You only, which is the, you
know, the football check, you
know, as you're all those she
likes football guys.
Yeah, all those tricks are like,
you know, the life of the
affair.
No, the affair lady.
Well, she broke it off.
She's like, no, no, I don't want
to read them.
I was just gonna start banging a
quarterback or we're the bad
girl.
Oh, I don't think you have no
idea about any of this stuff.
He was kind of slaying garbage
as I am.
Yeah, she's going to bang.
Why?
Just run.
Over high school football, Yeah,
I.
Mean, I don't think you'll be
12.3 in the table for a high
school coach, you know, I mean,
I don't know a lot about sports,
but that seems like he's
overpaid.
No, he's actually callers.
No, it did high school.
Oh, oh, for college, it's
probably.
Oh yeah.
And especially from Michigan.
We are for that.
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's that's not one
year, obviously.
He's probably whatever time he
had left on his contract, he was
surprised that some of those
guys get paid annually.
Boy for.
College.
Oh wow, you've definitely got
paid more than that per.
Year.
Yeah.
So what else happened with
Rooster Moore?
That was that was that was a did
already kill himself.
Abed stole his car.
He knows his interest.
Yeah.
He's in Gem.
Oh yeah, he didn't draw.
There's a picture of him and
yeah, in solitary confinement.
We talk in time.
They're only Did you George or
whatever?
No, not Diddy.
I finished the series last line.
This room.
Sure.
I wasn't.
It was great.
It's.
It's good.
Yeah.
I can't wait till the other
episodes go out.
Oh, there's more episodes.
Yeah.
It's only four right now, but
there's like a thing going on
because, you know, Diddy has had
his people send fewer flowers to
50 and but you know, like
there's a whole thing going on.
So I don't know if they're going
to release the others or what.
Yeah, if you I'm in, 50 doesn't
release it.
I don't think 50 is worried
because he's in flowers.
Yeah, easy.
That's pretty.
Yeah, it was nice.
But if you watch this 4 episodes
you start wearing like videos of
he's the killer.
Allegedly the Elijah but Elijah
Jackson.
I just wanted to know that was
birds on the cigars, but I just
want to know if $0.50, it had an
untimely demise.
That would be one of the saddest
things I've ever heard because
that guy is a national treasure
for this country.
Good he's in.
Yes, he's absolutely amazing.
Yeah, that listen and it's so
decent gets.
Killed and this whole time soon,
yeah.
Did he killed hip hop?
Where are you believe that he
did?
Are you already had to know
that?
Oh yeah.
But it's a little about a rebel
that Siri has already been kind
of monstant or yeah, you know,
and a couple of other guys.
You get the button?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not familiar with these
stars.
OK, man, I know where everybody
is.
OK.
But I didn't know that Diddy
killed Tupac.
That's all.
That's all.
A legend.
Oh, yeah.
OK.
I thought he didn't say.
You have watched this, Duncan.
Mary Palmer, you might work.
Resound during the Espinoza
thing.
I saw bits and pieces of it.
All the pictures of Brain.
I never go inside Netflix.
I know what Netflix I mean here.
I wouldn't let you say get a
video.
It's is these kids and I would
meta eyeblasts.
This is before the beautiful
this is beautiful.
Give me.
Those no before anything he does
have a lot block.
All right buddy, you already
doesn't have he doesn't have
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households.
Confusion with past stimulus
checks and proposed but
unapproved payment ideals.
Taxpayers receiving refunds,
amended return payouts or
credits adjusted near the end of
the year.
So there's not a check coming.
They're just playing catch up on
money they owe people.
Well, just the average check is
$2000 same amount everybody's
assuming the stimulus check will
be you know we had already
mentioned this before in the
past.
No, I don't think to that we
made you that it really wasn't
coming.
But this is the but it has
circulated back through the me
again because now they're making
these payments to people do the
law.
I can't understand this true
right, sure told you I still
don't have enough money to pair
at everybody $2000 and they
print the money, but they don't
print bore.
They just just see they're
referable all the time.
That's why our dollars take out
the money out.
They take out our money out.
But the pace what it Oh, OK.
And I changed every name.
Sure, everything else we came
with.
Then as they were taking 1 penny
out, they prayed a Benjamin.
That's right.
Let's say what, $7 trillion?
Seven tray.
You know, the T with ATI don't
understand.
Why were you loan the money,
letting everybody.
Let's say we're like, take a
loan from another country.
Does it make any sense why we do
make more?
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, guess what?
We disappeared.
You're not going to believe why
this sounds $80 trillion.
It was in the bag under the
carpet.
We didn't know.
So wild.
So stretch, it's OK.
All right.
Now in two cigar nears Mike over
in Amazon and all CIDAR name
Fort Wayne IN City Council
approves A CIDAR lounges
ordinance or rates Mayor's
signature.
This is a human.
This is.
Yeah, but we found out this week
or last week what happened with
the Meyer's signature.
This is a DV.
Oh, I do have a story about the
$3000 simulation.
No, you're being a shot before.
When?
In the inning.
Nope, Nope, all right.
At its meeting on Tuesday, the
Four Way and City Council
approved in ordinance that will
allow for the opening of new
cigar lounges in the city.
In order to meet the definition
of the cigar lounge of business
must meet five requirements.
It must prohibit entry to any
person or 20 years of age.
The owner or operator of the
business must hold a deer,
liquor or wine retailer's
permit, but must not operate as
a restaurant where food and
beverage sales eat or exceed 60%
of the business's annual gross
income.
The business must limit smoking
in the salus went to cigar
smoking after year of operation
at the business might generate
at least 20% of its gross income
from the Serif cigars and the
rental and and the rental on
site humidors.
They must be the posting of
conspicuous signs that display
the message that cigarette
smoking is prohibited.
The organs passed by an 81 vote.
Oh nice.
The bill was still needing to be
signed by Mayor Sharon Tucker
before it can go into effect,
though it will be in effect upon
her approval.
Fort Wayne is located in
northeastern part of the state
and is home to approximately
273,000 residents.
Oh, I bet she vetoes it.
You think she does?
Do we know if she has had cancer
and was addicted to cigarettes
and or baby?
You know, I can't, I can't be OK
with this because I used to
smoke cigarettes.
Right, right.
And I had well, you know what,
ma'am?
You could not smoke cigarettes
in these lounges.
And you go, OK.
Yeah, you know, this is a good
sign.
This that means that there's
there are people that are
properly acknowledging the fact
that cigars are not the same as
cigarettes.
Oh yeah, because of the
separation vaping.
Or anything else.
Cigars are totally different,
so. 8 to one too.
It's not like it was even a
close.
Yeah, it wasn't even.
It wasn't even like a.
Wasn't like a 5050 or anything,
just some old curmudgeon E Karen
lady didn't like it.
Who's the one guy?
That's what I want to know.
Who's the one guy that said no?
The one lady on the board?
Yeah, the one lady.
But she's gone now.
I'm not doing it where.
Do you want to go hang out a
lot?
My husband will be smoking all
the time.
He's going to stink when he gets
home.
It's called smelling like man.
It's a man, it's called.
Being a man.
That's right.
OK, well, are you?
Excited isn't.
I'm going to Fort Wayne
tomorrow.
Well, Indiana as a whole.
There was no smoking cigars in
Indiana before this, right?
There was no smoking cigars at
all in Indiana.
It's a smokeless state.
I thought it was.
Only California is smokeless.
Have you ever heard of Riverside
Cigars in Jeffersonville, IN?
OK, I so there's no it's a state
under it.
What's the one under it?
Kentucky.
Yeah, you can smoke.
There's no, no, there's no
smoking in Kentucky puke.
Yeah, you can.
I've been to a cigar lounge in
Kentucky.
I remember when I was in
Kentucky, there was no, I don't
think there was any cigar
lounges.
I went to one.
Because I had to go over the
bridge.
Yes, I did.
Were you allowed to?
You just did it.
Well, they sold me a cigar and I
lit it up and, oh, they sold you
sat with a bunch of other old
men and two very friendly
gentlemen who kept trying to get
me to drink liquor out of their
locker.
Gotcha I.
Was like, I don't have a loofah
gentleman.
No drinking out of a locker.
I know you tricks.
Yeah, I.
You're on to them.
I'm on to them.
Yeah, because I went and did
like all the distilleries and
everything.
It's just no smoking at the
distilleries.
Very flammable.
Well, I just couldn't find the
place and then I.
You're using your phone.
No, I did, yeah.
And then when?
I cigar places near me.
Yeah, when I did the cigar
places near me, it brought up
Riverside, which I didn't put
two and two together, right.
I went to Riverside and Skip was
actually there.
That's when Oh, first time.
You met him.
His.
Granddaughter was being born.
Right.
I I couldn't believe that there
I found that cigar.
Bar So you were stalking him.
You saw on social media he was
visiting his granddaughter.
No, I just looked up on Google
like.
Where is skip?
Yeah.
No, I, I thought it was weird
that it said Indiana, 'cause I
was in Kentucky.
It's like, am I gonna, am I
gonna fucking drive to another
state to go to a?
It's just.
Across the line.
Do you have a find my phone app?
Oh Skip.
So you know where he is it all
the time.
You guys share locations?
Maybe.
Does he FaceTime you guys?
He doesn't normally FaceTime
dudes.
He Facetimes me all the time,
yeah.
Oh wow.
Do you usually have a shirt on?
Every time.
Does he ask you to take it off?
No.
What's that like?
Does Skip have a shirt on?
Maybe that's the.
Question.
How does that make you feel?
This light thing is driving me
nuts behind Bomber.
It's fine.
And it's like a Barney color.
It's just the way that it's
attached.
I love you, you, me.
Let's all go back to sex
therapy.
Oh my God.
That's his song, that's his song
he sings.
That's his commercial for TV.
Oh, what if it was like a weird
thing like baby bop and all of
them were like all into hoots.
They're all, you know, like.
Baby Bop Bluey Bluey means
something all completely
different.
Well, the one guy's name was BJ.
Oh wow, there you go.
Don't go to his therapy.
Or maybe he should.
Oh.
Man, I guess so.
Yeah, he's not.
A yellow dinosaur.
He's teal now.
All right, Via Hey announces new
one of one line.
They have one cigar, and it's
just one.
Yeah, Via Hey has announced that
it has a new line heading to
stores next week.
And while there are three
Vitola's available, it's called
One of one.
Three of three.
As in the as in as is the norm
for the company.
Blend details have not been
announced, nor has the company
that made the cigars.
Rather, the company said that
the line stands as a testament
to this age-old craft, honoring
the mastery past down throughout
generations.
Every year of 1 is a unique
creation, carefully hand rolled
to perfection by skilled
artesians who pour their experts
into each individual piece.
So the VI one O 1 tailwind 6 3/4
with 52 the one O 1 Bulwark.
Yeah. 6 by 56 via one of one
outer edge of five and a quarter
54 each size comes a box of 30
cigars.
Representation of the company or
representative of the company
told Cigar Hustler Podcast that
there is no MSRP for the line.
There's no pricing.
Are you getting these right?
It said pricing is set by each
retailer individually.
We can charge whatever we want.
I don't think we're going to get
this one.
No.
Super expensive.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
One store that's begun taking
orders for the cigars has the
Bullwink, Tailwind and Bulwark,
priced at $27.00 per cigar.
There you go.
While the Outer Edge is priced
at 2640.
Like the majority of Yahe's
other releases, it's a limited
edition, with the company saying
that less than 200 boxes of each
size are being produced.
The company also said that this
will be a one time release,
never to be seen again.
One and done.
One and Done of the One and One
cigars are scheduled to be
available in stores on Friday,
December 19th.
Yeah, well, that's kind of yah
as a whole almost.
I mean, it's usually one and
done, right?
No, they they repeat some blends
every year, but it is rather
seasonal cigar.
I believe they come out with
Christmas Ellies.
They come out with Halloween
alleys.
They come out with Thanksgiving
alleys.
You know what I like about VI is
like they never, they never say
how the cigar is made or where,
you know, they don't release any
information.
Yeah, they're pretty secretive,
but they have, I mean, their
cigar is usually pretty good,
you know, but they're every once
in a while there's like a
there's one that's like, eh.
Oh, it wasn't Wasn't Grace now?
They're not even saying what the
price is.
That's how secretive they've
gotten.
It's pretty high for every guy.
It's an expensive cigar.
I think that's that was why they
didn't because they wanted to
see if I guess maybe the
retailer would absorb some of
the cost.
Oh, that sounds silly.
And it wouldn't be, it wouldn't
be Keystone anymore.
Look, you're, you're in these
weird times.
It's kind of turbulent, right?
That's true.
Nobody, nobody knew what was
going to happen with the, the,
the tariffs and, and the, and
the taxation and all this stuff.
And where is it at now, 18% or
is it 15?
Percent, it's 18, I think it's.
18. 18 as well. 18% with Yeah,
supposedly nothing's going up
for another year. 18 Yeah, but
not with us 'cause of CAFTA.
Right.
Yeah, nothing supposed to.
Oh, that's right.
I'm all confused about the
CAFTA.
Stuff, yeah.
So CAFTA, we're we're blessed
under the.
CAFTA, we are CAFTA, so we're
always going to be 18.
Yeah, yeah.
As of right now, yeah.
Gotcha.
So, you know, like that's still
a big jump in your own cost, so.
But at least we're already
there.
It's not like it's going to go
up to 18.
We've already had that happen.
Well, it went up to 18 recently.
It it wasn't something that you
know.
Well, I know it has been for
years, I understand that.
But it's not like we're now
waiting on some new impending
increase.
Yeah.
So, you know, I mean, you
probably didn't know how it was
going to drop and it was.
It looks like it's a nice cigar.
It looks like it's in like
lovely little sleeves or
whatever in little cased kind of
in the box and it's a big box.
It's a big box.
Is each big box 1 blend?
Yeah.
Oh, gotcha.
So it's like 330 count boxes or
something.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, All right.
Hoya de Nicaragua.
Quesada announced a joint US
distribution of the Bring Back
SAG Imports.
Or is it SAG?
SAG Imports?
Don't call it a comeback.
Hoya de Nicaragua and Quesada
will once again be partnered in
the American market.
The two companies were once
connected before Quesada's SAG
import distributed Hoya
Nicaragua's products in the US
until 2008, when Drew Estate
became Hoya's American
distributor, an agreement that
is coming to an end later this
month.
Going forward, SAG will once
again be the American will be
the American distribution
company for both Hoya de
Nicaragua and Quesada, though
this time it's described as a
joint venture between Quesada
family and the Martinez family
that owned Hoya de Nicaragua.
Previously, SAG Imports was a
distribution company for
Quesada's brands, including Casa
Magna.
For us, the moment is a
continuation of our family
story, said Raquel.
Is it Raquel?
Raquel Quesada, president of
Quesada Cigars, in a press
release.
As the fifth generation to lead
the business, my sister Patricia
and I, the two sisters, I
remember that story now, and I
feel a deep gratitude to the
legacy we inherited and renewed
desire to express our own voice
within it.
Joining Voices forces with Hoya
de Nicaragua through SAG allow
us to honor where we come from
while shaping what comes next,
building a home where tradition
and creativity inspire one
another, and where every cigar
carries a piece of our history
and our hope for the future.
OK.
There'll be 3 leadership roles
in this new company, Joel
Fernandez, national sales
director, Maria Fernanda Pezuzi,
director of administration
operations and Christina Lazis,
marketing director of USA.
Notably, Fernandez and Christina
are both Hoya employees.
Fernanda Pezuzi previously
worked at Agro Norse Relief.
The company has plans for eight
more people to serve and sales
roles and make sure both full
time staff and independent sales
brokers is the story of mutual
respect.
Blah de blah de blah, you know?
What would have been funnier?
What?
If Agonorsleaf was handling
distribution, because Terence
was at Quesada and then he moved
over to Agonorsa and then all of
a sudden they started handling
Quesada's distro, I.
Think it's kind of weird that
that that Hoya went away from
Drew Estate.
Did OK, well, why would Hoya?
Let's try and connect the dots
here.
Why would Hoya go away from Drew
Estate?
Do you think that they money?
You think they were told that
they decided on their own?
Do you think that maybe what?
Do you mean like maybe through
the state went we're done with
you?
And maybe, hey, we don't.
Hey, you know, we got enough
going on here.
We can't, you know, we're not
doing this.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I honestly don't know.
I'm just speculating.
Yeah, I mean, the contract was
up, it said.
So, I mean, somebody made the
decision.
Yeah.
It's either money or yeah,
somebody said we don't need you.
Anymore, I mean, at some point
it's a question of are both
parties providing value?
And obviously it well, no, it's
not obvious.
In my opinion.
Drew say probably looked at them
and said Hoyer's not providing
the value that we need in order
to continue this partnership.
It's like anything else, man.
Like we just drove for a couple
of people and they just
sometimes not all of them.
Some people just think that,
hey, here's the cigars and go
get them.
Like, OK, wait, wait a second.
Like what are you doing to help
us build the brand?
What do you know?
You got to put in some effort
too.
Right.
We're just distributing your
brand.
And that could, maybe that's the
case here with Hoya, I don't
know.
That's very possible.
That they got lost in the Drew
Estate.
Giant megalodon that they are.
It could be.
No, I think that, but what more,
what more what would happen is
that people would buy Hoya just
to support because they're in
Drew Estate.
You know what I mean?
Like I got a relationship with
Drew Estate sales Rep.
He's asking that I buy these
Hoya stuff.
OK.
You know, if you take Hoya off
the shelf, is anybody going to
miss it?
I don't know.
Probably not.
Just like anything.
It's just like any other brand.
I like the Antonio.
Yeah, but I could turn you on to
something else real quick,
right?
Well, yeah.
I mean, yeah, I'm not going in
there looking for an Antonio.
Right.
No.
What do you think?
I would, I would imagine on the
menu of things that a Drew State
Rep brings in, Hoya is down at
the bottom.
I mean, there's so much other
stuff in the portfolio, right?
So, you know, maybe it's on
there like, you know, the, the
shop owner's going look, I just
spent 10 grand.
I don't have any more money to
buy the Hoya thingy.
Or, or maybe Hoya felt like they
weren't getting the attention
they needed.
That's what I was trying to say
earlier, Right, right.
They're getting lost in the, you
know, in the mix of everything
else.
In the ether that is Drew
Estate.
Right, right.
You know, we got these infused.
We've got the, we got the pigs,
we've got this, we've got that.
Oh yeah.
By the way, I had this little
red and green one over here if
you don't want to take a look at
that.
You think it's a good move for
Quesada and Hoya to kind of join
forces?
I think it's a good move for
Quesada.
Which one is the bigger one?
Good question.
That's a good question.
That's a very good question.
I don't know per SE.
I would assume that Hoya is the
bigger.
One yeah, in in my mind.
But it's not by much if it is.
Right.
It's not, you know, extremely
well known more than Quesada is.
I can tell you I haven't had, I
probably had a Hoya before.
I've had a Quesada.
Yeah, Hoya's probably more
catalog based at this point.
They're probably, you know, they
probably have.
More Well, Quesada is a bundle,
right?
No.
Quesada's a What bundle?
No, it's usually Dominican
cigars.
Which is.
Also that little weird shaping
leaf butter their logo.
Yeah, I.
Don't think I've ever smoked
one.
Yeah, I mean, I know I, I, I had
to have had, but I couldn't tell
you what it was or when I did
it.
Yeah, it's very interesting.
What's funny is, you know, I
remember when Pete Hernandez was
repping Quesada and we took on
like the howitzer and they had a
couple of these other blends and
stuff and like nothing ever
really tracked.
It's, it's like, it's tough,
man.
This is a tough industry.
So I, you know, I don't know,
wish them the best.
I hope that this works out.
I don't know.
I don't know if it does.
I don't know if it does.
Like who's in charge?
Like they're building a company.
They're building a company and
they've got, it sounded like
they've got a couple of Quesada
purse people and then the one
lady from Agra Norsa, right?
Nobody from Hoya is in the mix,
right?
So what happens there?
I don't know.
You know, is Quesada the favored
son and this little, you know,
duet?
Yeah.
Who knows, this could push.
Push the quesada, fuck the Hoya
guys.
We don't, you know.
It sounds kind of you're very.
Very aggressive tonight.
Yeah, a lot of curse words from
you today A.
Lot of curse words.
Should be interesting.
Should be.
We'll see how this kind of plays
out throughout the years.
Leave them all out, say lovely,
say lovely things.
OK.
All right.
All right, now it's time for
everybody's favorite game.
What's?
The score it.
Was so.
Good guys.
Thank you very much.
All right, first cigar of the
day.
It is a recently reviewed cigar
from December 13th, 2025 by
Patrick The Black Label Trading
Company Cigar Limited Edition
Nicaragua reviews the Black
Works Studio Killer Bee,
Connecticut Pyramid.
OK.
Another cigar from the giant box
of assorted cigars.
Killer bee pyramid.
Connecticut Pyramid.
We did one of these last week,
but I was not this specific
cigar, but it was another cigar
from the mix.
I tried to do the most recently
reviewed cigar on a Monday.
OK, I'm going to say 85. 82.
OK, the cigar reviewed is the
Killer Bee Connecticut Pyramid
from Nicaragua Factory Fabrica
Oveja Negra, rapper Ecuadorian
Connecticut and Maduro Binder
Nicaraguan, Habano Filler
Nicaraguan.
It's a 5 by 54 round.
MSRP is $13.
Release date October 2025
number.
We don't care how many they
made, but we smoke three of
these as the review. 85.
Yeah, 82.
First Clue, The Killer Bee
Connecticut Pyramid really
delivers once lit, offering an
amped up Connecticut profile and
lively black pepper toast and
grain notes.
The retro Hell shines throughout
the cigar, adding brightness and
complexity without becoming
overpowering, and its flavor
consistently sits at an
enjoyable medium to medium plus.
86.
I'm going to win this one.
I'm going to win this.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're too tired.
Why did you yawn and say 80?
Six No, it's it was a heavy
deadlift day.
You haven't seen him sleeping?
No, it's deadlift day.
He sleeps on deadlift day.
Yeah, Nap. 82 I'm not changing.
8286 is where we're at.
Yep, clue #2 construction is
excellent across all samples,
with solid combustion and easy
cold draw.
Despite the covered foot and no
major burn issues through most
of the cigar, the blend
maintains good balance and the
Pepper Forward character carries
a profile effectively from start
to finish. 88. 85.
Clue and #3 The final third
feels a bit underwhelming, as a
cigar becomes too slender to
fully deliver the depth and
complexity seen earlier.
Flavors simply simplify.
Notably in combustion can
require more frequent puffing,
making the endless ending less
satisfying compared to the
strong first half.
Oh, I need to make note I'm
puffing more than I need to.
Did you die?
Look like you were dead over
there for a minute.
So you got 30 seconds right
there.
I'll read slower next time. 89.
86.
Final thought, the Black Works
Studio Killer Bee Connecticut
Pyramid is pretty much exactly
what I expected, a ramped up
blend that shows Browns leanings
while remaining rooted in a
profile marked by Ecuadorian
Connecticut seed wrapper,
showing off a unique figurado
vitola that gets dressed up with
some decorative stripes.
This is a cigar where style
meets substance and that is both
attractive and easy to enjoy,
even if it doesn't exceed my
expectations.
The flavor starts off on a solid
note but never really developed,
something I suspect was hindered
by the tapering ring gauge which
seems better suited to
concentrate the flavor rather
than developing them.
It's still a very enjoyable
blend, I just can't help
thinking there's more that the
blend can offer.
More than the blend can offer
88.
Is it more?
Is it less than 88 or did I nail
it?
89.
Wait, you said 88, he said 89?
Yep, 90.
Yes, I took the gamble.
Snug it out.
This guy likes black label I
guess 'cause the last one was
high too.
Sometimes he does, sometimes he
doesn't.
You guys now play.
You're not playing against the
score, you're playing against
each other.
You do know, well, sometimes,
well, at the end we're we're
kind of playing against each
other, right, But throughout the
thing like you got to kind of be
in the realm.
Look, what happens is if, if the
score gets tight and you can't
pinpoint it like I thought it
went down, that's why I won 88,
right?
If you can't pinpoint it, then
you got to say, is it more or is
it less than this one?
And that's where you slide in
close to it, right?
So you know.
Yeah, it's hard because two,
it's like there's no consistency
in these guys numbers.
Oh yeah, no, there's nothing.
So there is no like, oh, this
could definitely be a 90.
No it's like man, last time this
guy rated this shit a 93 and.
Said terrible things about it.
Right.
All right, the next cigar is
from 2010.
OK.
Reviewed by Brooks Whittington.
Brooks again.
The cigar is a Davidoff
Dominican Republic limited
edition reviews a Zeno Chateau.
O90.
OK, you got 90s.
Yeah, 9075.
You don't think he likes
Davidoff?
Nope.
I thought he loves Davidoff all.
Right, let's go, Palmer.
Cigar review to Zeno Chateau, a
country of origin.
Dominican Republic factory OK
Cigars.
Hey.
Rappers Ecuadorian.
Connecticut.
Binder, Dominican Orlo Filler,
Dominican Republic Criolo,
Piloto, Cubano and San Vincent.
The length is 5 inches by 50.
It is a robusto.
Back in 2010 it's over $8.50.
They smoked 3. 70 you got.
No, I'm first.
I'm not changing 90.
I'm just.
Let's say you got 90.
Right now, there's nothing
really to.
Change yeah with 90 Bing bong.
Bing Bong, 75.
The Zeno Chateau is a nice
looking cigar with a light brown
wrapper and slightly boxed
pressed.
The wrapper smells great with a
combination of manure, pepper
and dark chocolate.
It is well packed and gives a
bit and gives a bit when
squeezed.
It has a nice cap on the end but
does seem a bit light for the
size of Mattola.
The cold draw is sweet cedar and
espresso.
Now this one was very easy to
pick out the thing because there
is only three paragraphs in the
entire review and I can't do the
final score, the final thought
because he he says the score in
the final.
Thought.
Got it.
Just bleep it out.
Nah, it the way he writes it, it
was.
It's a Gimme.
It's a giveaway.
OK, so this is the last one.
No, that was the first clue.
There's still two more.
Clues.
Oh, OK, 85. 78.
It starts out with a surprising
amount of spice and slightly
noticeable notes of cedar,
leather, and earth.
Unfortunately, it also has an
almost overwhelming bitterness
that turns all the
aforementioned flavors rancid.
75 Yeah, I mean, that sounds
horrible. 74.
This continues until the 3rd
till the last third where the
bitterness lets up a little and
I can taste just a bit of
sweetness that is totally wasted
after the 1st 2/3.
Turn my palate into ashes.
Trust me if I oh Nope, there was
only two.
That was the final thought.
Hold on, let me make sure.
No it's not all right.
Hold on, turn my palate into
ashes.
Trust me, if I was not reviewing
the cigar, I would have pitched
it a long time before that.
Boots. 68.
This is your final vote,
gentlemen.
Oh wait, this is the final.
Vote This is the final vote.
I can't read the final.
Thought I thought you said there
was one more.
There's a final thought, but I
can't read that until
afterwards, but I do have it.
Oh, OK, wait, let me change.
God, he hates his cigar.
Feel like he said it so. 70.
Is it more or less than 70?
69.
Oh, he thinks it's less 48.
Yeah, I figured it's going to be
a bad one because, I mean, he
just completely trashed it in.
1A Thai.
So let's hear the final thought.
What do you say?
OK, well I have loved a few and
have been disappointed by a few
Dominican Davidoffs in the past.
To say this is a bad cigar would
be slandering the word bad.
Well, I could taste some flavors
while smoking all three samples.
I'll be at fairly boring
flavors.
Anything that it could have been
positive was totally annihilated
by the bitterness and harshness.
Honestly, I can't believe that
this was even released as a
blend.
It's so bad.
I've had a few more and we'll be
I have a few more and we'll be
stashing them to see if they get
any better, but I certainly
won't be holding my breath.
Yes, 'cause this cigar was made
at not OK cigars.
Hey, not OK Cigar Company.
All right, That's it, gentlemen.
I don't know how long the show
was because it's.
About an hour was it?
Yeah.
All right.
Right, this has been episode
430.
Can you believe that?
Boom, 4:30.
We're doing 5 a week now so
we're just cranking them up.
Yeah, yeah.
I feel like you said this a year
ago.
And apparently Florida license
plates is a big deal so.
Oh yeah, we are.
We're very we're, what's the
word, Florida.
License plate kingpins.
No, no, no.
When something goes viral, we
have gone viral with the Florida
license plates.
Yep, all right.
So please do another stupid law.
State of Florida, yes.
All right guys, thank you very
much.
Bye bye.
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