ACHP Episode 434 Teleportation The Future Is Now
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Here we go. Welcome to A Cigar Hustle Podcast, episode 434. I'm Mike Palmer, your host. And today with Boots, the engineer, and my co-host, Mike Szczepankewicz, we're doing one of the last five new shows of 2025.
Wow. This show will air Monday, December 22nd. And then on the 23rd, we'll have a new show. The 24th, we'll have a special interview with Santa Claus.
25th will be a rerun. 26th will be a rerun. And then the 29th will be a new show. And then this December 30th, we will have the last new show of 2025.
You're serious today. Well, yeah. I don't think that you have that completely accurate, but it sounds close. Yeah.
I looked on a calendar. I think you'll have a show on the 26th. If you record on the 24th. We're not recording on the 24th.
We're not recording on the 24th. You're right. You got it. Thank you very much.
I like how our intros got really boring, though. Yeah, what happened? Hey, I'm with Boots. It's the end of the week.
It's the end of the week. He's fatigued. I'm fatigued. I'm tired.
Yeah, he is tired. But that last show, though, we'll do a recap for 2025, and I think there'll be at least one list out by then, if not two. We should talk, you know. Are we doing our cigars?
I think that people should comment below about what their favorite episode was Those are their favorite thing that happened this year on our show, and maybe we can talk about some of those things, because I don't remember any of them. Yeah, boot shirt, you know? Boot shirt? Yeah, you know.
If there's one they'd like to see a rerun of, too, they can always request that, and I can pull that one for one of those rerun spots. Okay. I wanted to pull the very first show, but it's only audio. Yeah.
So maybe the first video show we did. That thing's brutal. The black and white looking one? It's very blurry.
Very blurry. One angle. One microphone, no camera. Greg was holding it, doing a POV and all that.
Two girls, one cup. On today's show, YouTube is the way of future home entertainment in South Florida. You apparently can be teleported into a brand new BMW. One of the world's biggest porn websites was hacked, and now we know what Boots likes to watch.
In Polk County, Measles is back after a 29-year absence. In sports, Paku Nakua is in a lot of trouble. He looked it up, he looked it up. That's not how you say it.
Paku Nakua? No, not Pakua. Paku. Did I say Pakua?
I meant Paku. P-A-C-U. If you're saying the second way, yes. Paku Nakua.
That's still not how you say it. This is awesome, but it's okay. Keep going. Oh, maybe I'm off.
Yeah, kuda matata. Thank you, guys. Yeah, maybe I'm off. In Cigar News, Davidoff has decided to spend some of that extra cash they have, and a $16,000 table cutter and ladder for Christmas, and then finally a mini what's the score.
All this and the bad for you industry comments we're going to make on episode 434 of Cigar Hustlers Podcasts, but before we get started, Mikey, how do you get some of that CHPod swag, and just as a note, I couldn't tag the hat because it's not part of our Shopify page, on yesterday's episode, no it was not there, it's there, it's on the next page, I searched hat, there's a second page, that means it scrolls way down. Maybe Greg put it on there with two H's. I'm telling you, it's on there. Okay, maybe I missed it.
My fault. My bad. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Two H's. Two H's and hat? What you want to do... You know what?
I'm just going to wing their names. com and check out our latest swag. Yeah. Buy one, get the second one, 40% off.
We have one Postanya SBC shirt left. What size? Oh, it doesn't matter. It can be any size.
And then after that, it's going away. It's kaputze. It's going... We're sunsetting that shirt.
Retired. Yes. The blackout hoodies, I think, are almost all gone. I think I have one left in a weird size.
Uh-oh. A bigger real size. It's not a weird size. It's just not, you know, it's not XXL, which is standard for the cigar industry.
It's a medium. Medium? I don't know. One Greg would wear?
And if you spend over $100 more, you're going to get free shipping. Oh! Shout out to James Daling and our guy in Minnesota, not wherever the hell he said it was. He said Wisconsin.
Wisconsin, Ben Wilhelmi. He's the guy that paints. He's the guy that paints the farm equipment. I know who he is.
I was saying it for the audience. He's a great guy. He is a great guy. And he also messaged that he wants the beanies as well.
Yes. Let's get them beanies. I am on it. I will work on it this weekend, and they will be up on the site.
He likes to listen to the show in the paint booth. I know. Again, for the audience. You say that all the time.
Every time we bring up Ben, that's what you say. Thank you, audience. He's my friend. All right.
YouTube's on the rise. If you've ever dreamed of seeing yourself on TV screens everywhere, your best bet right now might not be Hollywood. It might be YouTube. All right for you.
If you want a shot of YouTube stardoms without putting people through mind-bending, borderline sadistic challenges like Mr. Beast, starting a podcast could be the way to go. Yeah. What used to be an audio-only medium is quickly becoming something people actually watch, especially on their televisions.
Do you guys watch the show on your television now? Me? Yeah, our show. This show?
Yeah. No. I've tried. It's really weird.
Is it? It's weird. Because it's big. Watching yourself that big?
I'm on the telly. I'm on the television. I watch it in the bar. Oh, yeah, it does.
In the bar? At the shop. Oh. Yeah.
He usually takes his pants off, too. Oh, okay. He's excited. According to Bloomberg, viewers stream more than 700 million hours of podcasts on their TVs through YouTube in October alone.
Wow. That's a massive jump from about 400 million hours during the same time last year. That surge isn't an accident. YouTube has been investing heavily in podcasts and rolling out better tools to help users discover shows, especially on smart TVs, where podcast viewing is quietly exploding.
Investing? Where did we miss that? They are investing. Well, Mike the Mailman told me yesterday, he says, "I don't even miss you anymore.
" See you all the time. See you all the time. Thanks, Mike. They started showing up in people's shorts, recommended shorts feeds.
Really? I see it on mine, I mean, it's on mine all the time. " Right? Oh, nice.
But YouTube isn't the only player fighting for those eyeballs. Spotify has launched a dedicated program to support video podcasts and recently updated its Apple TV app to lean further into video. And Netflix, they're officially stepping into the podcast arena too. This week, Netflix announced exclusive streaming deals with iHeartRadio and Barstool Sports Deals that specifically banned full episodes from being posted on YouTube.
Oh, full episodes, you can't do. Well, you can still do short clips and stuff. You can do short clips. Why would you not want to do short clips on YouTube and get people to jump over to Netflix?
Oh, yeah. You know? We're in. Yeah.
Right. It makes sense. So, the Podcast Wars are officially moving to the living room. What started as a background noise for commutes and workouts is now primetime big screen content.
And for creators, the message is clear: podcasts aren't just something you listen to anymore, there's something you watch. Remember in the beginning, I had to fight you to do a video. You didn't want to. Really?
Yep. That was, what, six and a half years ago or whatever, so. Well, you're a genius. We would not be where we are today if it wasn't for you.
Or Greg, 'cause he used his office. Yeah, we did kick him out. I miss kicking him out. That was always fun.
Mondays, you got to get out. But I'm working. We don't care. Sometimes we didn't even do a podcast.
Right, we just kicked them out. You know what's funny? I'm looking at some of the other podcasts in the space, and all of a sudden, they're starting to look more like us than vice versa. Isn't that something, huh?
Crazy. Crazy. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool to see.
Hey, followers will be followers. It doesn't upset me. I'm not like, oh, because we're not the originators of any of this. You know what I mean?
We do set the standard. We've copied someone else. Yeah. But we will outwork you without question.
Oh, yeah. I mean, your once a week show. Yeah, that's cute. No.
Yeah, we're going pedal to the metal here. Soon to be two shows a day. What? There's no way.
Oh, my Lord. There's not enough information out there to do two shows a day. You'd have to talk about something else completely different. Right.
We'd have to have a podcast about something completely different. Women's problems. Women's problems? Oh, man.
We'll do like a view at night. We'd be canceled so fast. You'd be surprised. I bet they'd love us to talk about their problems.
We haven't been canceled yet, buddy. He means if we do a ladies' problem show. I know, but I'm saying as far as our show's concerned, you'd think that... Oh, they can't cancel us.
Yeah. Oh, I will tell you this. Yes. So I haven't been on, I don't go on TikTok as much anymore.
Right. But I did jump on and there was one of our clips and somebody wrote two betas or something like that. Like two betas, this is like we're two weak males in the post. Maybe they mean YouTube, maybe it's not me.
No, he didn't even realize that Boots was there. It's definitely you and I. Every time I log into TikTok, it says you uploaded a video. Are you auto-feeding?
Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah.
I mean, like if you're in the bathroom, you look at TikTok, I'll go, oh, Cigars Podcast uploaded a video. And then I'll leave, go in the other room, sit down on the couch, turn back on again. Oh, look, he's uploaded another video. Son of a bitch.
This guy's crazy. I see our stuff is reaching people that don't like cigars as well. Oh, yeah. I saw a couple of comments.
Oh, I love that because, you know, they commented on, you know, cigars are evil and blah, blah, blah, or whatever. They're the same. I'm like, they're not the same. Well, they said like our show was misinformation or something.
Oh, yeah. Yes. Dangerous misinformation. We don't check anything.
Oh, well, that was the one thing that I did fact check. Yeah, he sent them the article. Yeah, I said, here's the chart from the government, buddy, before you start... Oh, on the smoking?
Yeah. And then I did have another moment of weakness where I saw somebody made a post on Facebook and they're like, look at this idiot smoking a cigar as he's pumping gas, like, and like, like 30 people are like, you know, what an imbecile retard, blah, blah, blah, like saying all these hurtful things. That's not really nice. And then I said, um, and I was inaccurate with what I said, but it was true.
Like, uh, the heat in the, in the cigar is high enough for it to, um, ignite gas fumes. However, it's not possible because it's not a spark or like a light. Right. Yeah, because it's an ember, it's not possible.
I leave mine in the car when I pump the gas. Oh, I smoke the cigar. Oh, I don't, if I'm going to like Costco or something, I'll keep it in the car, yeah. I always smoke and pump.
But it's always, yeah. Just don't light anything. And what about when you get gas, though? What?
Ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum. Wow, bro. Driver claims he teleported into a stolen BMW before Volusia crashed, deputies say. Volusia County, Florida, a 36-year-old man who crashed a BMW convertible in Volusia County while claiming to travel over 100 miles per hour said he didn't steal the car, but instead was teleported into it.
Oh, he's in the loony bin. I believe him. The crash happened Monday on Old Dixie Highway and Plantation, Oaks Boulevard, After Calvin Curtis Johnson, 36, stole the car from Bicentennial Park, I mean teleported into the car. Is that 50?
Allegedly stole the car? Yes. Oh, that's 25 cents. According to the Volusia County Sheriff's Office, deputies said a man left his BMW unlocked at the park with the keys in a closed cup holder.
While the man was walking his dog, his car was stolen, deputies said. A few minutes later, the BMW crashed and witnessed help the driver get out of the car. According to the Sheriff's Office, the man told deputies he was speeding when he crashed, and explained that he didn't steal the car, adding that he had teleported into it. In other news, he was also charged for possession of crack.
I believe, it's possible. I just think, you know. You think it's possible? Anything's possible.
Maybe he was, maybe he teleported. Johnson was taken to a hospital for treatment and will be jailed on charges of grand theft of a motor vehicle and driving with a suspended license. That doesn't seem reasonable. He was teleported.
I teleported from-- He still stole it, technically. It wasn't his. He just appeared in it. Who knows how that happens?
Maybe-- Okay, if it happens to you, pull over. He panicked. He stepped on the gas. Oh, what, 100 miles an hour?
Yeah. Yeah, maybe he teleported from one of Diddy's freak things in jail. Who gets quantum physics? We don't understand.
We're really watching too much of that show. He's back on Diddy. I'm watching too much, and we're over here talking about the crackhead that says he's teleported. That has nothing to do with Diddy.
That has nothing to do with Diddy. Where's the tie? I'll wait. I'm just saying, it's just, that's believable.
Exactly. Exactly. All right, reminder, please like your vehicle while you're enjoying our parks, as Sheriff's Office said, and a social media post. And I would imagine, activate your invisible force field so that people can't teleport into your car.
Also, while you're at it, like and subscribe to this podcast. Yes. I think you can say, to teleportation. That way we can teleport you into the studio.
Yeah, if you hit the like and subscribe button, maybe you teleport. Maybe teleport into a more expensive car. It's expensive, Karole. Or as my dear friend Boots said, maybe teleport directly to a Diddy party.
Yeah, it's never been. If he doesn't talk about Diddy. Are they still having Diddy parties now that Diddy's in jail? Maybe.
Or they're at a different party? You think they're sending him videos? I wish you were here. They're FaceTiming him?
Thanks for all the money. FaceTiming him. FaceTiming him in. FaceTiming Diddy.
He comes in and he's like AI'd on like a, he's got like a little bot that he is walks in around. He still gets to do all his alleged evil things. All the Diddy things he likes to do? Yeah.
That's me, Diddy. He'd be like how Chappelle portrays him. Oh, thank you all you kind, wonderful people here at my Freak Off. I'm shutting it down.
I'm shutting it down. No one's coming. Nobody's coming anymore. We're just not doing it.
It's shutting down. Unless you go get me this milk from this Cambodian person. Breast milk. Yeah, the Cambodian breast milk.
And the balloons. Was that in the video or something? He likes Cambodian breast milk? It was a Dave Chappelle skit.
Oh. Yeah. I thought maybe he really liked Cambodian breast milk. No, what's crazy is back in the day, Dave Chappelle made fun of these Freak Offs.
He did break-offs. Yeah. And made fun of Diddy. Oh.
You remember the show. Did you ever watch the Chappelle show? No, I know who he is, but no, I was not watching his show. You should go back and watch it.
There's a lot of truth in Dave Chappelle's stuff. I'm busy watching our show on YouTube every night. We have 432 episodes. I'm not even halfway there.
Oh, okay. All right, Boots, bad news. Pornhub Premium was hacked. Here's what was reportedly stolen.
Pornhub has confirmed a cybersecurity incident involving information tied to some of its premium users after a report service that the company is being extorted with sensitive member data. Extorted. Extorted. With sensitive data.
Yeah, they know all the freaky shit you look at. The story was first reported by tech site Bleeping Computer in a statement posted on the support section of its website. Pornhub said the issue stemmed from a third-party service, not its own system. It's a cookie.
That's what happens when you accept the cookies. No, you accept the cookies. It's the cookies. It's always the cookies.
So Boots is definitely compromised because he loves cookies. He loves cookies. He loves cookies. Peanut butter cookies.
Peanut butter cookies. A recent cybersecurity incident involving Mixpanel, a third-party data analytic provider, has impacted some Pornhub premium users. Specifically, the situation affected only select premium users. It is important to note, this was not a breach of Pornhub's premium systems.
Only the darkest options of premium subscribers. Divers. That's right. Only the really serious VIP premium people.
Passwords, payment details, financial information remain secure, and we're not exposed. Oh, thank God this wasn't me. That's not what they were after. Why do you pay for it, first of all?
Mick's panelist has denied that the data came from the separate November hack, which impacted other major companies, including OpenAI still. Any breach raises concern, especially given the sensitive nature of Pornhub's content. According to Bleeping Computer, the hacker group Shiny Hunters claimed responsibility and said it obtained... Hold on, this is a big number.
It is us, the Shiny Hunters. 201,211,943 records of historical searches and watching and download activity to Pornhub premium accounts. That's it? How many?
249? 201 million plus. Holy... You know how, that's search results, downloads, and what you watch.
Yeah, but I bet you on like a porn website like that, I bet you that doesn't even. Doesn't even crack the surface. Crack the surface. Not even close.
That's just Tuesday. Right. Dude, but some people gotta be, but some people gotta be scrambling. Some people, yes.
Exactly. I'm willing to bet. Maybe people watching this right now are scrambling. I'm willing to bet that some of them paid for the premium.
Yeah. To think that they could look up really, really evil stuff, and they would be safe. And now... You're never safe on the internet.
The shiny hunters... Shiny hunters... are coming after you. You know when I knew I was never safe on the internet?
What? There was a point in my life. Yeah? Yeah, so you remember back in the day, like, it was a big thing to pirate, like, videos that were gonna be coming out in the movies.
And that guy from 60 Minutes showed up in your kitchen when you brought the beer? Yeah, like Pirate Bay and stuff like that. Like when you showed up to a house with squirt guns? No, squirt guns and beer, and the guy from 60 Minutes was there?
No, with squirt guns. She said she was 18. Wow. No, it's not me.
I was teleported here. No, listen, listen. So there's a, in Virginia, who the big provider is, is Verizon Fios, and I remember I had gotten Verizon Fios because I lived in an apartment, so everybody had it, and I was pirating movies, where I was just downloading like all the new stuff. Right?
And all of a sudden, I got an email from Verizon. And it said, "Hey, we saw that you've been pirating movies. " Oh, wow. Really?
I was like, I was clicking the email, like making sure it wasn't like a fake thing. It was real. It was legit. Yeah, it was legit.
" Go get five gift cards and send us all the codes right away. Right. Here's the only way, the only way that this is going to work is to if you go to Walmart and if you put it all in gift cards and drop it into this mailbox. Right.
It was crazy. I was like, oh, okay, I'm not doing this no more. We need you to pick up some... At least they gave you a warning.
Yeah, I guess. Like, there's no... How do you really... Like, have you ever heard of anybody getting popped for a download on Pirate Bay a hundred years ago?
Like, oh, man. There used to be... I don't know. We never paid for music back in the 80s.
Yeah. I mean, it took all day I had to download one song, but still. In the 80s? You downloaded stuff in the 80s?
Sure. We started in the late 80s. Really? I did.
That's incredible. Yeah, you weren't even born yet, I understand that. It was dial-up, so it took all day long, you had to hope nobody picked up the phone upstairs. Yeah, I remember, he was government affiliation.
Wow. China and all that. Are you sure it was the 80s? Yeah.
Back then, they had what were called electronic bulletin board services, and you would dial-up, And it would be some server a guy had set up in his house, you leave a file, you take a file type thing. And what would you do with the song? Play it through your computer? Oh, you wouldn't put on anything else.
In the 80s, your computer had to be super small screen, humongous CPUs. It was just one color, green. Or you had to hook to an old television. Yeah?
I didn't have a green monochrome thing, I had an old TV. I think after this piece of information, I think Palmer's been sandbagging us on knowing a lot of technology type of stuff. He might work for the CIA. Right.
Oh, wow. Yeah. It's possible. It could have just, like, that could have been the whole plot.
Right. How long have you been here? Here? Yeah.
Like, 11 years? So, they joined 11 years to infiltrate us. Yeah. 11 years.
Yeah. This is it. Had to load Greg into a false sense of security. Yeah.
It takes a long time. He had to get deep in. We're going down with... Deep undercover.
Yeah. With Chen Ji, or whoever. Chen Ji? Uh, Ji Shen, from yesterday.
Yeah. The site reported that Shiny Hunters sent extortion emails to Pornhub and claimed the stolen data includes a premium member's email address, activity type, location, video URL, video name, associated keywords, and timestamps showing when the activity occurred. I had a lot of information. 201 million downloads or views or something.
201 files, 201 million files. If you guys remember history in this, this is probably nobody in Florida. Why not? Because, you know, in Florida, for Pornhub, it's a law.
You have to, every time you get on it, you have to upload your ID. Don't you remember this whole law? I remember when the law thing changed. They were talking about doing something like that.
I forgot that it happened. Did it go through? I thought it was like Massachusetts or something that had to do it. You have to do it in Florida too?
Yeah, no, it went through. And it went through to like multiples. You have to like take a picture of your ID and upload it? Yep.
So do you just, for you, do you just have your photo ID there? Is it just easy for you to transfer it over? Is that why the employees, all your employees, Do you guys have to give you a picture of their ID? Like, oh, let me see your ID.
Well, they know me as Greg Smith. Oh, yeah? I use that ID. You got a picture of Greg Smith?
A picture of Greg Smith. Oh, nice. They're never gonna know. While no financial data appears to be involved, the potential exposure of detailed viewing histories could be extremely sensitive.
In short, the hackers could attempt to pressure Pornhub by threatening to release information showing exactly what premium members watch and win. And then, something many users would understandably want to keep private. First of all, if it's on that website, I'm sure nothing's surprising to anybody. Yeah.
Oh, it could be. What if, like, the pastor of your church likes to, you know, look at videos every once in a while? Isn't that a thing for them? Don't they do that anyways?
I don't know, they don't tell you. Or is that only Catholic, or whatever, I don't know. Only Catholic. I don't go to church anymore.
Wow. Oh. Boots goes straight to hell, and they wonder why. Straight to hell.
Yeah, when you're talking about the priests. Yeah. All right, well, measles are back. Oh, my God, now the Pornhub, now the measles.
Pornhub to measles. Jesus. We're running all over the world today. Measles are back.
Officials with the Polk County Health Department on Thursday confirmed a local case of measles. Mm-hmm. Polk County. Yes.
That's pretty close. This is local. In a news release, the department said that the case involves an unvaccinated Polk County infant who was too young to be immunized. The infant recently traveled to an area where measles is spreading, according to the release.
" So you have a baby, a brand new baby, because you can't get, so you go to where measles are? How do you know where measles are? Well, it had to come in contact with somebody who had measles. It's not like, you know, they pulled into Lakeland and...
Yeah, but somebody could have it and just be amongst people. You can't tell, you get the dots all over you and everything. Maybe they weren't... The pictures of the baby look terrible.
It's got these little red dots everywhere. Yeah, it's not like you can hide measles. Yeah. It's not like, you know, the mumps in here.
Just you get a little swelling. How do you get the virus? You have to go in contact with the person that has it? Right.
That's the only way to get it. With a measle person. With a measle person. Okay.
Oh, let me hold the baby. Why are all those dots all over you? It's fine. Don't worry.
Well, Palmer. That's what I thought. I thought measles was airborne. Yeah, but didn't we all get shots when we were kids for the measles?
Well, that's what we have, but this baby is too young to be immunized. Right, yeah, there are some religious groups that-- When an infected person coughs, sneezes, talks, or breathes, they release tiny droplets containing the virus into the air. Oh, God. So you have to be relatively close.
They could just be airborne. Don't go to Polk County. Well, it's Polk County, Iowa. The virus can also land on surfaces, and if you touch a contaminated surface and then touch your face, eyes, nose, or mouth, you can get infected.
And that's what babies do. In Iowa? So the four people in Iowa are now infected. Right, yeah, it's actually Polk County, Iowa.
Iowa. Public health officials are actively working. Yeah, until I downloaded the article, I didn't know it was Iowa either. It's a totally different Polk County.
Polk health officials are actively working with the family and health care providers to ensure appropriate, bless you, care. Oh, God. Measles. Measles everywhere.
They're flying in the air. They're everywhere. Touch my hand. No, I'm not touching you.
Stay over there. And follow up, they said in the release, measles is one of the most contagious viruses we know, and it spreads quickly when people travel and gather indoors, said Julian Van Loo, Polk County Health Department Director. Vaccination is It's the best protection we have, making sure you and your family are up to date on your MMR vaccine helps protect infants who are too young to be vaccinated. So, I mean, well, I would assume all of us here have been vaccinated for measles?
Yes. So then we can't get it? No. Can we still carry it?
No. I will ask the machine of magic. Yeah, because I mean, somebody had to not be immunized to give it to the baby. Well, like, you know, like Carlos was saying, there's a lot of people that aren't immunized.
Right. Oh, that's right, they give you a low dose of the thing and your body builds up antibodies. Yeah, yeah, but you can't, but you can't carry it and give it. We're just a couple of betas doing a podcast, I don't know.
Let's all, like, boot to the end and see if he gets the measles. No, I really can't get the measles. You cannot carry or transmit the weakened vaccine virus to others, and they very rarely carry or transmit the wild type measles virus. Wild measles.
Wild. Yeah, she's on the wild. Infants who are too young to be vaccinated and others who are at higher risk for serious illness, as of December 9th, a total of 1,912 confirmed measles cases were reported in the United States, according to Iowa Health and Human Services. That includes nine cases in Iowa this year.
Don't go to Iowa. Apparently, that's where all the measles are. Yeah, the four people there. That's why there's only four.
Yeah, it's four people in Iowa. That's it? Yeah. Well, 1,102 of them have the measles.
Yeah. What's the stain next to it? -I don't know. -I don't know.
-I know. -Potatoes have a natural defense enzyme against measles. -Maybe they're counting the potatoes. -Canadian potatoes?
-Yeah, Canadian potatoes. John Tavish potatoes. -John McTavish potatoes? -Yeah.
26 million people. -Wow. Man, was I wrong. -Wow, it's a lot more than four, huh?
-I was way off. Samsonite. Samsonite. Alright, now we're turning to sports.
Yes. Sports. Rams, Pakua Nakua. Pakua Nakua.
Pakua Nakua. Pakua Nakua. Pakua Nakua. He's from Hawaii.
He is. Puka. Puka Nakua. Puka Nakua.
I like Pakua. " I wasn't about to fix it. That's it, I wasn't about, it's one of the best parts of the show, duped again, people do love the mispronunciations, he apologizes, he had no idea the gesture he made was offensive, on Pornhub, no, no, he was doing a live feed, Los Angeles Rams wide receiver, the guy that Mikey was talking about, the guy's a stud, issued a statement Thursday, apologized for performing a gesture on the internet live stream that was anti-semitic in nature and perpetually harmful stereotypes against Jewish people. Yeah, I heard about this.
There's a thing? What did he do? No. No.
What did he do? He can't find it anywhere. I looked. Well, yeah, they did take it down.
No, it had something to do with rubbing his hands together. It was some way he rubbed his hands together, and he was going to use that gesture. Well, you would think that one he would know. This is wild, man.
These guys talked him into making it part of his touchdown dance at the end until he found out that he's being offensive. Okay, so somebody was coaxing him into doing this, did they have ill intentions, or they're just like, "Oh, that's cool, we should do that"? We don't know. " Well, next time he shouldn't believe the guys with all the swastikas on their face.
Yeah, I wouldn't trust them. Yeah. In the statement, Nakua said, "At the time, he had no idea of the nature of the gesture, which has been associated with anti-Semitic themes. I deeply apologize to anyone who was offended by my actions, and I do not stand for any form of racism, bigotry, or hate That's a statement of another group of people, Nakua wrote.
Nakua made the gesture on live stream Tuesday with two internet streamers, Aiden Ross and Neon, Ne3ON, who suggested he perform the gesture as part of his next touchdown celebration. These guys knew what they were doing. They're in trouble. You think so?
I think they set them up. Is he? We have a guest member in the house and he said that Neon is... Live studio audience.
Neon is... The NFL strongly condemns all forms of discrimination and derogatory behavior directed towards any group or individual. The league said in a statement Thursday, "The continuing rise of anti-Semitism must be addressed across the world and the NFL will continue to stand with our partners in this fight. " The Rams issued a statement Thursday saying, "There is no place in this world for anti-Semitism as well as NFL is the other forms of prejudice or hostility towards the Jewish people and people of any religion, ethnicity, or race.
Ethnicity? Yeah, that too. The streamers attempted to enter the Rams' practice facility Tuesday, but were turned away by the team in the same live stream. Nakua said NFL referees are the worst in that he thinks some refs make calls just to get on TV during games.
Some refs make calls, I think, on TV because the spreads involved. And apparently, the NFL is saying that they're looking into this further. Some of these calls have been so obnoxious. Give my money back.
But we'll see. I don't know how true that is. I get my news from Palmer and my 12-year-old son. So they did play the video when he said that the refs fake calls again on TV to play it, but nobody will show what he did with his hands.
Yeah, I mean, well, look, like, oh, yeah, something like that and so it's a pair of like would not have known yeah that's what I'm saying, you know, it's just like yeah, but you don't even want to be close no one's no one's for hate or or you're well, I mean, some people are some people you know, the majority of people I mean boots so other than boots the majority of people are not pro any of that shit sure it's just garbage right so you know, it's everybody should You're so over-careful. Yeah, but like the problem is that when you have too much of an overreach of something, then people go nuts. Like fucking triangles. We lost triangles.
We lost, you know, for the whole Pizzagate fucking crazy bullshit when people went nuts with the QAnon, yada yada. Like, what are we doing? I'm not familiar with this triangle, though. I am.
I'm familiar with the triangles because someone that I'm closely affiliated with had a triangle on their label and they got blamed for those things. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm following. And it's like, wait a second.
It's just a shape. It's a triangle turned sideways. Everybody relax. Yeah.
Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Yeah, well, you know, a lot of the haters are always going to hate, bro, and they're always going to try to rise to the top. That's just how it is.
Okay. Well, you know Puka Nakua. Uh-oh. Fred Rouet, Guest Visit.
Who let him in? Yeah, this is... Wow. Did your fingerprint work?
Yeah. That's our newest Patreon member. Nice. Mr.
Fred Rouet. This is not the Patreon show. Yes. Yes.
Welcome, sir. Welcome. It's just insane, you know? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, and, like, it's too bad, because Puga Naku doesn't strike me as that type of a guy. No, that guy is a hard worker, too. No, he didn't know what he was doing. " Right.
" Maybe. But then at that point, you gotta say, so-and-so's a piece of shit, and here's why, and, you know. I think everything blew up, too, in the sports world when John Morant did his thing, right? Like, obviously his was bad.
What? When he did the machine gun, you know, shooting everybody, da-da-da-da. But it obviously was at that point in time, there was things going on in the news where school shootings were happening and stuff. It's like, man, you just picked the wrong time to do it.
Just motioning the machine gun? I don't see what the problem is. I've seen that a lot. Well, not anymore, but you used to.
They can't do shotgun. They can't do any of that stuff. Like, who cares? Who cares?
Everybody falls down after ... Yeah. Like ... So, are we gonna, like, banish all shows that have guns?
Like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, this is ... it's not real, this is crazy. Like, no.
Well, they're not ... I mean, they just fined them and told them he needs to stop. Yeah, that's so dumb. Baker got ...
Baker and Abuka got fined for something ridiculous. Yeah, Abuka. Yeah. Abuka, Abuka, Abuka.
Ah, ah, ah. Yeah, 25 large for making some kind of ... they did a thing. It's a thing, like a hand thing.
The way he's lit up out of the corner, it's like the devil is sitting back here behind me. Oh, the devil is sitting behind you. Make no mistake. Alright, now, cigar news, Michael.
Now we're moving into cigar news. That was it? Not the game? Oh, wow, okay.
No. The game was crazy. Yeah, that was a great game last night. There was a play where there was a lateral pass.
I know you know exactly what that means. I know what a lateral pass is. And it bounced off the helmet of the guy, and it jumped into the end zone, and everybody thought the play was dead, The Seattle Seahawks just kind of picked it up. I think it was...
Charbonnet. No, Charbonnet. Charbonnet. Yeah, he picked it up.
Oh, Charbonnet. That's kind of toilet paper we use in my house. After they reviewed, it was considered a touchdown. Oh.
Or a two-point conversion. Yeah, two-point, because they needed it. And they wound up going in overtime, and they wound up winning the game because of something like that. Yeah, there is going to be a lot of question of that game.
Really? I guarantee it. Well, the refs just do the calls so they can get on TV. What was the spread?
I didn't... Moneymakers, what do you got on Moneymakers? I don't been on those spreads anymore. Let's go, Moneymakers.
I'm only on the parlay. I had an eight-stick parlay, and I had Smith Najibga, which your name is? No, I'm trying to steer away from football. We did win money on that game, only because it went into overtime.
Yeah. But I've been trying to stick to basketball. Really? Yeah, and basketball is even kind of questionable.
It's questionable, you gotta like really buy down everybody and it's it's wild just the the whole mafia and hard rock and all that it's not the mafia it was better when the mafia ran it whatever it was more organized it was whether it's uh it was smaller now it's scaled if when it scales that's when it becomes problematic yeah it's problematic yeah yeah so you're broke yet no I want to cash money for the night I went pretty good money in the past two days you have 30 G's not 30 you were at seven not that long ago Yeah. Where are you at now? Um, I'm probably over that. I've actually, because of our friend in the audience over here, for some reason I got onto the slots on Hard Rock now, so...
It's a gateway, it's a gateway. Our friend in the audience, can you confirm that he's above or below the $7,000 mark on the money makers gambling? He probably doesn't know that number. Okay, so we can confirm.
He knows that he has a problem. a problem we can confirm that he's a gambler uh aside from that he does yeah okay he's got some he's got a couple dubs yeah yeah korean baseball no i've stayed away from korean baseball now yeah he's been basketball now yeah korean basketball i don't know if i was a if i was a habitual gambler yes i feel like i'd be able degenerate i'd be able to tell you exactly where Well, maybe he doesn't want to. I'm at 10. Oh, are you kidding me?
If he had 20 in the bank from betting? First of all, without hesitation, he'd be. You never know who listens to the show. Mikey, you would know if I had 20 in the bank because I'd be in there buying boxes of cigars.
Let's go! Yeah. Let's rage. Cigars for everybody.
Right. Break out them opuses. I can't feel my legs. You'll be legit.
All right, cigar news. Otinger Davidoff names Javier Gonzalez the top marketing role. Oh. Damn.
I put through my hat in for that one. Oh, did you? You applied for this? Yeah.
The parent of the Davidoff, Avo, and Camacho brands has announced that it has hired Javier Gonzalez as its new SVP, Head of Global Marketing and Innovation. Could have been me. He takes over that title from Edward Simon, the long-time Davidoff employee who has held the role since 2018. Did he get fired or was he...?
No, he had two jobs. Earlier this year, Simon was also given the role. He had two jobs at Davidoff and now he only has one. He's making cutbacks.
Yes. Was that on purpose or was that like a scam? I don't know. Let's read on and find out.
He's getting paid less. I would imagine. Yeah. Like, hey, we're going to go.
Simon was also given the role of overseeing the company's sales. As of January 1st, 2026, his dual roles will come to an end. Simon will focus on sales. Gonzalez will oversee the marketing.
As part of the change, Simon's new title, SVP Chief Sales Officer. Gonzalez most recently served as the Global Marketing Digital Innovation Officer of Avatola, Formerly known as Dufresne AG, a publicly traded Swiss duty-free conglomerate that owns brands like Hudson and World Duty Free Group. Prior to his 15 years at Ovatola, he had stints at British American Tobacco, Coca-Cola, and Lego. Coca-Cola?
Those are big companies. Lego. But he was marketing department? Marketing department.
Hey, I mean, those are good companies. He's marketing department now. If you had to... Oh, I thought...
Oh, that's the new guy. The new guy's in charge of marketing. And he did Lego. Yes.
Wait, why would he lead those companies? What makes you think he had a choice? Listen, if you're marketing, that's the tough one to hang on to. And innovation, though.
Yeah, you've got to prove that it's working. You've got to be innovative. I mean, Legos had a big uptick. Why did Legos have a big uptick?
Maybe because of this guy. I don't know, but I know what they did. Oh, okay. They made Lego movies.
Oh, yeah. I mean, I've never bought a Lego for Lego movies, but... Well, like Harry Potter, Legos, Star Wars, Legos, like all that stuff has been huge lately. But the resurgence of Legos for kids is the fact that they started...
Oh, you think the Lego movies did it? Of course. That was the whole purpose of doing it. Yeah, that's why they did it.
That's why Lego Batman. That's why all those things exist. Yeah. Right.
The collabs as well, right? Harry Potter, you're right. But just the standard Lego movie was really, is one of the things that kind of put it back in kids' minds. That was marketing.
Right. It was probably expensive marketing. Yeah. Because how much do you think it is to do a movie?
I don't know. But as long as it was a blockbuster hit or whatever. Wasn't Davidoff just downsizing? Well, you don't think that this is downsizing?
They hired somebody. But they took a guy off the board. They reduced him just to sales. Oh, okay.
Yeah, I guess it's still down. I don't know. Yeah, it's possible that the guy's the sale base and commission base as well off of the salary, right? So if he was higher, you know, this is all theoretical, but if he was higher paid for a marketer and now you replace him with somebody else, you can lower that base.
At least I would think so. But Palmer's going to tell us exactly how much we have an estimate. I know he's itching for it. I'm honored to join the Oniger Davidoff family at such an exciting moment.
Oniger David is on We're going to skip the rest of the video, he goes on to whatever. All right, we're going to skip the rest of the video. We're going to skip the rest of the video. We're going to skip the rest of the video.
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We're going to skip the rest of the video. We're going to skip the rest of the video. All right. We don't know what the man makes.
We don't. But we have an estimated compensation for Mr. Javier based on information available on the internet for similar roles at other luxury-based Switzerland companies. Okay.
How many others are there? How many other luxury brands? In Switzerland. I have no idea.
A whole bunch of. A whole bunch of. All right. They're estimating base salary $450,000.
What? What? I told you I put my hat in there. 400.
We could all put our hat in there and split it. The three of us could work together as a unit. The three of us doing it? Yeah.
This guy probably runs circles around us. Listen, your marketing skills are horrible. We're going to do a podcast, us three, and then we'll just split the money. All right.
Long-term incentive, perks, executive packages at this level, equity stock plans, pensions, relocation benefits, et cetera, can push total compensation well above $800,000. Particularly if performance targets are exceeded. Man. Summary compensation, they estimate base salary between $300,000 and $450,000.
Total cash, $400,000 to $700,000. No, I would say it's probably $300,000 to $450,000. I would imagine so, too. So, PCA money.
What's that? PCA money. Yeah. What was it?
Joshua Berski's at $350,000, I think we found out. Damn, man. I don't know, man. Where did we go wrong?
I just saw Instagram posts, he's out, you know, experiencing Christmas in Europe or whatever. With the guy, the education ambassador, dude, they're just running around the country now together. And now the new marketing guy for Davidoff. Oh, he's probably part of the club.
Yeah, let's go on a kayak. Well, they might not like him, he makes more than they do. Let's go on a trip, guys. Let's go on a trip.
You bring your jet. You kidding me? Yeah. These are educated estimates based on senior marketing roles at global Swiss-based luxury companies and typical exchange rates.
The actual package could vary. We're not saying that's how much the man makes. Okay. Yeah.
All right. But if he did... It'd probably be something like that. He could buy this $16,500 cigar cutter table lighter from Dunhill.
From who? Dunhill. Fred, could you confirm that that was the price? $400-ish thousand for a Davidoff marketing salary?
What do you think? I don't know. I mean, I doubt the compensation goes over half an hour. Okay.
You can't hear Fred. Definitely, yes. Yeah, exactly. That's awesome.
He didn't say that, I'm just kidding. He didn't say that. Well, but getting back to the other thing, you know what's kind of crazy, I know that we talked briefly about Lego, but if you remember not that long ago, maybe about 15, 20 years ago, about 15 years ago, Harley Davidson sales were through the roof. Yes.
Everybody had a Harley. Yes. Why did that happen? Oktoberfest.
No, Oktoberfest had nothing to do with it. There was a TV show that was a huge hit. Do you remember it? Oh, Sons of Anarchy.
Sons of Anarchy. And everybody needed to have a Harley. I wanna be like Jack. So, you know, major marketing actually works when you tie it in with Hollywood.
So everybody's gonna start smoking cigars? We need to make a cigar movie. If you had a bunch of, if you had captivating villains or heroes that were all cigar guys... Well, we are the villains.
Supposedly. What are you gonna be, the penguin? No, no, I mean, not like a dressed up villain, but we are the villains of the media, I guess. The media, I guess.
We were bad for the industry. We were bad for the industry. We were bad for the industry. I don't know.
I don't know how much that tracks. Just one guy's opinion. Yeah. Maybe two.
We don't. And yeah, that's whatever. We only know one for sure. A lot of other people like us.
Yeah, people do like us. Yeah. But no, I'm being serious. You know, if you really wanted to propel this industry into it becoming more socially acceptable, is you would need heroes smoking cigars, you know, and had to be kind of in their rotation.
You need a really awesome villain, maybe an anti-hero that was a cigar guy, even if it was a TV series. I bet you Sopranos helped boost cigar sales. Oh, maybe Luciano could be the villain. I bet you if you tracked it, if you looked at the data of when Sopranos hit that show and overall cigar consumption, I bet you that there was an uptick.
You think Luciano could wear like a monocle? No. Sorry, that would be funny. Right.
CIO did have the Sopranos release, and I bet you that that popped too, because people that were just collectors of Sopranos stuff probably would have achieved that. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I remember when Guy Fieri first started with... Carlos is like this close to replacing you.
He hasn't mentioned Diddy one time, you know, and he hasn't cursed at all. He hasn't cursed at all either. I remember when Guy Fieri first started... Can you do this, Carlos?
Can you just do that? Can you just hit the one and the two and the one and the two? That's all you got here. I'm not sure.
Wow. Value of me. Go ahead. So anyways.
I remember when Guy Ferry first started. Remember we went to the Great Smoke. That was like his first like, you know, everybody could come see him. And I remember the cigar boxes.
Yeah. Remember everybody was outside and they were dumping all the cigars out of the box. Were they? Yeah.
We were inside at that point. You were out there. Yeah, we were inside. We didn't see anything.
Whoa. Eric took me out there to go meet him. So when I was out there, they were dumping all the cigars out and they wanted just the boxes. And he wanted just the box so he could sign it and take a picture with him with it.
Really? That doesn't help the industry. Did you pick up all the cigars? I asked.
He said, no. He said, leave them on the table. There you go. And Bert Krescher, he likes cigars.
Yeah. Booch, can you give Carlos your seat, please? Yeah, because we can't hear him on the mics. Unbelievable.
He just put us in a movie. Yeah, just like that. Just like that. We're in a movie now.
I would be in the movie too, Palmer. You know, of all the movies that I've seen, do you know what cigar that I see is the most notable? What? Can you guess?
For cigars? I always try to look and figure out what they are. If you could see a cigar that always kind of pops in a movie or a show, I could tell you that there's one in particular that I see the most. Last Action Hero.
No, The Cigar. No, The Cigar, not the movie. The Cigar. Ding, ding, ding, ding.
Bing, bong. Yeah, I'm thinking Fuente. You're 100% correct. It's Opus X.
Oh, Opus. It's not just Fuente. It's specifically Opus X. Is it the knockoff Opus with the rainbow X instead?
You can definitely distinctly see that it says Opus X. Wasn't it Senzafina that Jalen Hurts was smoking this past Super Bowl? He's in the poster? Yeah, I think so.
And I think the Dodgers had it too or something like that. I saw the poster the other day. Yeah, but it doesn't, it's not as big of an impact as it is in a movie. Yeah.
Crazy. I'm sorry, I was just, I, yeah. Don't be sorry, be better. You want the, the table lighter story, you want to jump to the, what's the score?
Tell me the, tell me the, you're supposed to tell us the price. Yeah, I did, $16,500. Oh. Many companies make combinations of cigar cutter and lighters, mostly under the guise that they make a convenient combination for a cigar smoker, whoever, the new Dunhill cigar cutter table lighter is not going to be marketed as such.
It's not small, it's not very portable, and it's not all that affordable. The Dunhill Silver Cigar Cutter Table Lighter is a three-piece design that includes a desktop cigar cutter with four different cutting options, a removable base, and a Dunhill Turbo Lighter that is designed to be stored inside the base. Oh, that is $16,000. It's not bedazzled like Prince of Boobies?
No, nope. No, it's not bejeweled. As for the cutter, it's a multi-cut lever design, a concept that has been used by other companies. It's got a little bit of an opening there.
There are four different openings, two straight cuts and two V cuts. The holes are different sizes designed to accommodate cigars of various ring gauges. One unique part of the cutter is that there is a lid that can be closed when it's not in use on the website. Dunhill, so you don't cut your fingers, I guess.
All right, we got it. Expensive cigar. You're the one who told me a Polish story. I know, but I didn't realize it was past five o'clock.
I mean, I was perfectly fine without it. All right, very expensive, $16,000. Very expensive, you can cut four different ways, lighter in the base, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's a, it's a car.
Yes. Yeah. Nice. It's a used Model S.
Hey, hey, you guys ready now for What's the Score minigame? Yes, very excited. Yeah, ready? It's time for What's the Score?
There you go. All right, December 18th, 2025, Brooks Whittington. It's a Dominican Republic General Cigar Company limited edition reviews of the Buffalo Trace limited edition 2025. Oh, this cigar, I love it.
Boots, go first. Um, Buffalo Trace. Yep. Buffalo Trace cigar.
75. I thought you said you loved it. I was being sarcastic. 88.
Oh. All right. It's a Buffalo Trace limited edition 2025. It's from the Dominican Republic.
Factory undisclosed. Wrapper undisclosed, but then has Prince's Habano 2000. Binder, Dominican Republic, Criojo 98. Filler, Dominican Republic, Criojo HVA Piloto Cubano.
Length, 6x50, and they smoked, free cigars. Uh, 75. 86. Ooh, quite the variance there.
Yeah, he'll jump at the end. The cigars delivered a layered and evolving flavor profile highlighted by creamy oak, almond, and milk chocolate sweetness with consistent complexity from the first light through the final third. The transition, especially the shift from espresso bitterness to smoother, creamier notes, show thoughtful blending. Boots.
Seventy-eight. Eighty-eight. Clue number two. Despite minor touch-ups, the cigars produce dense, satisfying smoke with excellent draw resistance.
The retrohale remains approachable, yet flavorful throughout, Balancing white pepper and milk chocolate sweetness and adding depth without overpowering the palate. Man, he really likes this cigar. 87. 90.
Construction consistency is an issue across samples with uneven firmness, frequent burn corrections, and sporadic bitterness, particularly in the final thirds. Detracting from an otherwise refined and well-developed smoking experience. Is that the last one? Then there's a final thought.
Okay. 87. Fuck. 88.
Final thought. Let's get one thing out of the way up front. I did not taste any barrel notes. The closest I found was the Dominic Creamy Oak flavor that was present for the entire cigar.
With that said, the other flavors in the profile, including almonds and an ever-present lemongrass note, are quite enjoyable and the construction gave me no major issue. I have not smoked any of the other Buffalo Trace releases, and while the Buffalo Trace limited edition 2025 does not have the most complex profile in the world, it is an extremely approachable blend that just about anyone who smokes cigars could enjoy. Man, I'm trying to make this three in a row. Oh, that's right, he's on a roll over there.
I like your odds, I like your chances. I'm sticking at 87. Damn, that's tough. I think it's better than an 87.
He says it's good, but it's not the best, but everybody could smoke it. Yeah, do I want to go below 87 is the question. What do you think, Palmer? I can't tell you, I'm looking at the score.
You better not be pointing over there. He's not. Hands are down by my sides on the chair. I'm going to stick at 88.
88. Yes! The streak is over, Boots. Unbelievable.
Not only is the streak over, but I nailed it, which is something you haven't been able to do. You said 87. I thought you had another one. No.
I just couldn't see him going higher than I was. I thought he was going to go under. That was tight. God, Brooks, he's always so tough.
Okay. Anything else to add? I'd say, guys, this has been episode 434, I believe. We hope you're enjoying your Monday.
Oh, that's right. This has been Monday's show. Yeah. Have a good day.
I can't keep track anymore. Thanks, guys. We appreciate you watching. Bye.
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Show Notes
On todays show
Youtube is the way of the future home entertainment.
In South Florida you apparently can be teleported in a new BMW
One of the worlds biggest Porn website was hacked and we know what Boots likes to Watch!
In Polk County Measles is back after a 29 year absence
In Sports Pacu Nauka is in trouble
In Cigar news Davidoff has decided to spend some of that extra cash they have!
And a 16,000 table cutter and lighter for Christmas
And then finally a mini what’s the score!
All this and the bad for the industry comments you have grown to love on episode 434 of The Cigar Hustlers Podcast!