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December 22, 2025· 53m

ACHP Episode 434 Teleportation The Future Is Now

ACHP Episode 434 Teleportation The Future Is Now

Transcript

There we go.

Welcome to a Cigar Hustler

podcast episode 434.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host and

today with Boots the Engineer

and my Co host Mike Stefan

Kevich, we are doing one of the

last five new shows of 2025.

This show will air Monday,

December 22nd.

And then on the 23rd we'll have

a new show.

The 24th we'll have a special

interview with Santa Claus, 25th

will be a rerun, 26th will be a

rerun, and then the 29th will be

a new show.

And then this December 30th, we

will have the last new show of

2025.

You're serious to that?

Well, yeah, for, I don't think

that you have that completely

accurate, but it sounds close,

yeah.

I looked on the calendar.

I think you'll have a show on

the 26th if you record on the

24th the.

One on the Today I'm not.

Recording on the 24th.

You're not recording on the 20.

4th You're right, you got it.

You're right.

Thank you very.

Much I like how our interest got

really boring, though.

Yeah, what happened?

Yeah, I'm with Boots.

But it it was just, it's the end

of the week.

It's the end of the week.

He's fatigued.

I'm fatigued.

I'm tired.

He's tired.

But that last show though, we'll

do a recap for 2025, and I think

there'll be at least one list

out by then, if not 2.

We should talk, you know, we're.

Doing our cigars.

I think that.

We talked about doing that

people.

Should comment below about what

their favorite episode was or

their favorite thing that

happened this year on our show

and maybe we can talk about some

of those things 'cause I I don't

remember any of them.

Yeah, boot shirt, you know.

Boot shirt, Yeah, you know.

If there's one they'd like to

see a rerun of too, they can

always request that and I can

pull that one for one of those

rerun spots.

OK, I wanted to pull the very

first show, but it's only audio.

Yeah, so maybe the first video

show we did.

That thing's brutal.

The black and white looking one.

It's very blurry, very blurry. 1

angle.

One microphone, no camera.

Greg was holding it, doing apov

and all that. 2 girls, 1 Cup.

On today's show, YouTube is the

way of future home entertainment

in South Florida.

You apparently can be teleported

into a brand new BMW.

One of the world's biggest porn

websites was hacked and now we

know what Boots likes to watch

in Polk County.

Measles is back after 29 year

absence in sports.

Peku Nakua, he's in a lot of

trouble.

He looked it up.

He looked it up.

That's not how you say it.

Pakua Nakua.

No, not Pakua.

Paku.

Did I say pakua?

I meant paku.

PACU if you're.

Saying the second way, yes.

Paku Nakua.

That's still not how you say it.

This is awesome.

It's OK, keep going.

Oh, maybe yeah.

Kuda Matata, thank you.

In cigar news, Dabadov has

decided to spend some of that

extra cash they have.

And a $16,000 table cutter and

lighter for Christmas.

And then finally a mini What's

the Score all this?

What a wonderful and the bad for

you industry comments we're

going to make on episode 434

Cigar Hustlers podcasts.

But.

Before we get started, yes

Mikey, how do you get some of

that chapter Putt swag, what do

you want?

Just so you just as a note, I

couldn't tag the hat because

it's not part of our Shopify

page on yesterday's episode.

No, it was not there.

It's there.

It's on the next page.

I searched hat I'm Nope, there's

second page, so I mean the

scroll's way down.

Maybe Greg put it.

On there, I'm telling you, it's

on there.

OK, maybe I missed it my.

Phone, hold on. 2H S. 2H S in

hat.

What you want to do, You know

what, I'm just going to wing

their names.

What you want to do is you want

to go on a chapter pod.com and

check out our latest swag.

Yeah, buy one, get the 2nd 140%

off.

We have 1 Postonia SBC shirt

left.

What size?

It can be any size.

It can be any size.

And then after that, it's it's,

it's going away.

It's kaputzy.

It's going, we're sunsetting

that shirt.

Retired.

Yes, the blackout hoodies are I

think are almost all gone.

I think I have one left and a

weird size.

It's not a weird, it's not a

weird size.

It's just not, you know, it's

not double XL, which is standard

for the cigar industry.

It's a medium.

I don't.

Know.

One Greg would wear.

And if you spend over $100 more,

you're going to get free

shipping.

Shout out to James Daling and

our guy in Minnesota.

Not wherever the hell he said it

was.

Wisconsin.

Ben Willhelm me, he's the guy

that.

Paints.

He's the the guy that paints the

farm.

Equipment.

I know, I know who he.

Is I was saying it for the

audience?

He's a great guy.

He is a great guy and he also

messaged that he wants the

beanies as well, so yes.

Dude, get them beanies.

I am on it.

I will work on it this weekend

and they will be up on the site.

He likes to listen to the show

in the paint booth.

I know.

I was again for the audience.

You say that all the time.

Every time we bring up Ben,

that's what you say.

Thank you, audience.

He's my friend.

Yeah.

All right, YouTube's on the

rise.

If you've ever dreamed of seeing

yourself on TV screens

everywhere, your best bet right

now might not be Hollywood.

It might be YouTube.

For you.

If you want a shot of YouTube

stardoms without putting people

through a mind bending,

borderline sadistic challenges

like Mr. Beast, starting a

podcast could be the way you go.

Yeah.

What used to be an audio only

medium is quickly becoming

something people actually watch,

especially on their televisions.

Do you guys watch the show on

your television at all?

Yeah, our show.

This show, Yeah.

No, I've tried.

It's really weird.

Is it?

It's weird 'cause it's big

watching yourself that big.

I'm on the telly.

I'm on the television.

I watch it in the bar.

Oh.

Yeah, it does.

In the bar.

At the shop.

Oh yeah, he usually takes his

pants off too.

Oh OK, gets excited.

According to Bloomberg, viewers

streamed more than 700 million

hours of podcasts on their TV's

through YouTube in October

alone.

Wow.

That's a massive jump from about

400 million hours during the

same time last year.

That surge isn't an accident.

YouTube has been investing

heavily in podcasts and rolling

out better tools to help users

discover shows, especially on

smart TV's where podcast viewing

is quietly exploding.

Investing.

Where did we miss that?

They are investing well, Mike,

the mailman told me yesterday,

he says.

I don't even miss you anymore.

I see you on the TV so much.

See you all the time.

See you all the time.

Thanks.

We well, we have started showing

up in people's shorts

recommended shorts feeds.

Really.

I see it on my I mean it's on

mine all the time.

My wife has had friends call her

and go hey we saw your husband

on the TV.

Right.

Oh, nice.

Yeah.

But YouTube isn't the only

player fighting for those

eyeballs.

Spotify has launched A dedicated

program to support video podcast

and recently updated Apple TVTV

app to lean further into video.

And Netflix?

They're officially stepping into

the podcast arena, too.

This week, Netflix announced

exclusive streaming deals with

iHeartRadio and Barstool Sports,

deals that specifically banned

full episodes from being posted

on YouTube.

Oh, full episodes?

You can't do you.

Can still do short clips you.

Can do short clips.

Why would you not want to do

short clips on YouTube and get

people to jump over to the

Netflix, you know?

We're in.

Yeah, makes sense.

So the podcast wars are

officially moving to the living

room.

What started as a background

noise for commutes and workouts

is now prime time big screen

content.

And for creators, a message is

clear.

Podcasts aren't just something

you listen to anymore.

There's something you watch.

Remember the beginning?

I had to fight you to do a

video.

You didn't want to really.

Yep, that was what, 6 1/2 years

ago or whatever?

So.

Well, you're a genius.

We would not be where we are

today if it wasn't for you.

Or Greg, 'cause you used his

office.

Yeah, we did.

I miss having.

I miss kicking him out.

That was always fun.

You gotta get out Mondays.

You gotta get out.

But I'm working.

We don't care.

Get out.

Sometimes we didn't even do a

podcast.

Right.

We just kicked.

We just kicked him out.

You know what's funny is.

Sat in there and smoking our

feet up.

I'm I'm looking at some of the

other podcasts in in the Space

and all of a sudden they're

starting to look more like us

than vice versa.

Ain't that something, huh?

Crazy.

Crazy.

Yeah, it's cool.

That's cool to see.

Hey, followers will be

followers.

It doesn't upset me.

I'm not like, oh, 'cause we're

not the originators of any of

this, you know what I mean?

We do set the standard.

We've copied someone else.

Yeah, but we will outwork you

without question.

Oh yeah man, your your once a

week show.

Yeah, that's cute.

Yeah, we're going pedal to the

metal here.

Soon to be two shows a day.

What?

There's no way there's not

enough information out there to

do 2 shows a day you.

Have to talk about something

else completely different.

Right.

We'd have to have a podcast

about something completely

different.

Women's problems.

Women's problems.

We'll do, we'll do like a view

at night.

Would be cancelled so fast.

You'd be surprised.

I bet they'd love us to talk.

About their We haven't been

cancelled yet buddy.

It means if we do a ladies.

Process, I know, but I'm saying

as far as our show's concerned,

you think?

That they can't cancel us.

Yeah.

Oh, I will tell you this.

So so I haven't been on.

I don't go on TikTok as much

anymore, but I did jump on and

there was one of our clips and

somebody wrote two betas or

something like that, like 2

betas.

This is like we're two weak

males post.

Maybe they mean YouTube, maybe

it's not me.

No, they didn't even realize

that Boots is there.

It's definitely you and I.

Every time I log into Tick Tock,

it says you uploaded a video.

Are you auto feeding?

Yeah.

Oh, OK.

All right, Yeah, but I mean,

like, if you know, you're in the

bathroom, you look at TikTok,

I'll go, oh, cigars, a podcast,

uploaded a video, and then I'll

leave, go in the other room, sit

down on the couch, turn back on

again.

Oh, look, he's uploaded another

video.

Yeah.

Son of a bitch.

This guy's crazy.

I see our stuff is reaching

people that don't like cigars as

well.

Oh yeah, I saw a couple of

comments.

Oh, that.

I love that.

Because, you know, they

commented on, you know, cigars

are evil and blah, blah, blah,

or whatever, right?

They're the same and like

they're not the same.

Well, they said like our show

was misinformation or.

Something.

Yeah, Yeah.

We don't.

Dangerous misinformation.

We don't.

We don't check anything.

Oh well, that was the one thing

that I did Fact Check.

Yeah, he he sent him the

article.

Yeah, I said.

Here's here's the chart from the

government buddy before you

start.

Oh, and the smoking.

Yeah.

And then I did have another

moment of weakness where I saw

somebody made a post on Facebook

and they're like, look at this

idiot smoking a cigar as he's

pumping gas.

Like and it like like 30 people

are like, you know what an

imbecile, retard, blah, blah,

like saying all these hurtful

things.

That's not really nice.

And then I said, and I was

inaccurate with what I said, but

it was true.

Like the heat in the in the

cigar is high enough for it to

ignite gas fumes.

However, it's not possible

because of it's not a spark or

like a a light.

Yeah, 'cause it's an ember it it

it's not possible.

I leave mine in the car when I

pump the gas.

Oh, I smoke the cigar.

Oh, I don't.

If I'm going to like Costco or

something, I won't.

I'll keep it in the car.

Yeah.

I always smoke and pump.

But it's always yeah, just don't

light anything.

Yeah, what?

About when you get gas.

Though wow bro.

Driver claims he teleported into

a stolen BMW before Volusia

crashed, Deputies say Volusia

County, Florida 36 year old man

who crashed at BMW convertible

in Volusia County while claiming

to travel over 100 mph said he

didn't steal the car but instead

was teleported into it.

Oh, he's in the looney.

Bin, I believe him.

The crash happened Monday on Old

Dixie Highway in Plantation Oaks

Blvd. after Calvin Curtis

Johnson, 36, stole the car from

Bicentennial Park.

I mean teleported.

In alleged allegedly stole the

car, Yes.

Oh, that's $0.25.

Yeah, according to the Volusia

County Sheriff's Office,

deputies said a man left his BMW

unlocked at the park with the

keys in a closed cup holder.

While the man was walking his

dog, his car was stolen debut,

he said.

A few minutes later, the BMW

crashed and witnessed help the

driver get out of the car,

according to the Sheriff's

Office.

The man told deputies he was

speeding when he crashed and

explained that he didn't steal

the car, adding that he had

teleported into it.

In other news, he was also

charged for possession of crack.

I believe it's possible, I just

think you know.

Anything is possible.

Anything's possible.

Maybe he was.

Maybe he teleported?

Johnson was taken to a hospital

for treatment and will be jailed

on charges of Grand Theft of a

motor vehicle and driving with a

suspended license.

That doesn't seem reasonable.

He was teleported.

I teleported.

He still he still stole it.

Technically it wasn't his, it

just.

Appeared in it.

It's not.

Who knows how that happens?

Should have pulled and then OK.

If it happens, do you pull over?

Maybe he.

Panicked, Stepped on the gas.

0100 miles an hour, Yeah.

Yeah, maybe you teleported from

one of the diddy's freak things

in jail.

Who gets quantum physics?

We don't.

Really watching too much of that

show.

He's.

Back.

He's back on Diddy.

I'm watching too much and we're

over here talking about the

crackhead that says he's

teleporting.

There's nothing to do with

Diddy.

Yeah.

Where's the tie?

It's.

I'm just saying it's just, it's

as believable.

Exactly, exactly.

All right, reminder, please like

your vehicle while you're

enjoying our parks, the

Sheriff's Office said in a

social media post.

And I would imagine activate

your invisible force field so

that people can't teleport into

your car.

Also, while you're at it, like

and subscribe to this podcast.

Yes.

Yeah, I think you just say to to

teleportation.

That that way we can teleport

you into the the studio.

Yeah, if you hit the like and

subscribe button, maybe you

teleport.

Maybe teleport into a more

expensive.

Or, as my dear friend Booth

said, maybe teleport directly to

a ditty party.

Because it's never been.

If he doesn't talk about ditty

and.

Are they still having ditty

parties?

Now the ditty's in jail.

Maybe they're at a different.

Party.

You think they're sending them

videos?

I wish you were here.

They're Facetiming him.

Thanks for all Facetiming him.

FaceTime, I'm in.

FaceTime in Diddy.

He comes in and he's like, you

know, he's like AI don't like a

he's got like a little bot that

he is boxing around.

He still gets to do all his.

All the alleged evil things, all

the Diddy things he likes to do,

yeah.

I feel like me Diddy.

He'd be like, like how Chappelle

portrays him.

Oh, thank you all you want kind,

wonderful people here at my my

freak off.

I'm shutting it down.

I'm shutting it down.

No one's coming.

Nobody's coming anymore.

We're just not doing it.

It's shutting down unless you go

get me this milk from this

Cambodian person.

Breast milk.

Yeah, the Cambodian breast milk

and the balloons.

Was that in the video or

something?

You liked Cambodian breast milk?

The Dave Chappelle skit.

Oh.

Yeah, yeah.

I thought maybe he really liked

Cambodian breast.

Milk.

No, what's crazy is back in the

day, Dave Chappelle made fun of

these freak offs.

Yeah, and made fun of did he,

Oh, in his when you remember the

did you ever watch the Chappelle

Show?

No, I know who he is, but no, I

was not watching the.

Show you should go back and

watch it.

There's a lot of truth in Dave

Chappelle's stuff.

I'm busy watching our show on

YouTube every night.

We have 400, four, 132 episodes.

I'm not even halfway there.

Oh, OK.

All right, boots, bad news.

Pornhub Premium was hacked.

Here's what was reportedly

stolen Pornhub has confirmed a

cybersecurity incident involving

information tied to some of its

Premium users after report

service at the company is being

extorted with sensitive member

data.

Extorted.

Extorted.

With sensitive data.

Yeah, they know all the freaky

shit you look at.

The story were first reported by

tech site Bleeping Computer.

In a statement posted on the

support section of its website,

Pornhub said the issue stemmed

from a third party service, not

its own system.

It's a.

Cookie.

That's what happens when you

accept the cookies.

Accept the cookies.

It's the cookies.

It's always the cookies.

So Boost is definitely a

compromise 'cause he loves

cookies.

Loves cookies.

Yeah, loves cookies.

Peanut butter cookies.

And peanut butter cookies.

A recent cybersecurity incident

involving Mixed Panel, a third

party data analytic provider,

has impacted some Pornhub

Premium users.

Specifically, the situation

affected only select premium

users.

It is important to note this was

not a breach of Pornhub's

premium systems.

Only the darkest options of

premium subscribers.

That's right, only the really

serious VIP premium people,

passwords, payment details,

financial information remain

secure and were not exposed.

Oh thank God this wasn't me.

It's not what they were after.

Why do you pay for it first of

all?

Mixed panelists has denied that

the data came from the separate

November hack, which impacted

other major companies, including

Open AI.

Still, any breach raises

concern, especially given the

sensitive nature of Pornhub's

content.

According to Bleeping Computer,

the hacker group Shiny Hunters

claimed responsibility and said

it obtained hold on this big

number.

It is us, the shiny hunters.

201,211,943 Records of

historical searches and watching

and download activity to Pornhub

Premium accounts.

That's it.

How many?

201 million plus.

Holy, you know that's.

Search results, downloads, and

what you watch.

Yeah, but I bet you on like a

porn website like that.

I bet you that doesn't even.

Doesn't even practice service.

Not even close.

That's just Tuesday.

Right.

Dude, But some people gotta be.

But some people gotta be

scrambling some people.

Because exactly, I'm willing to

bet.

Watching this right now,

scrambling.

I'm willing to bet that some of

them paid for the premium right?

To think that they could look up

really, really evil stuff and

they would be safe.

And now you're never safe on the

Internet.

The shiny hunters.

Shiny hunters.

Ever.

Are coming after you.

You know, when I knew I was

never safe on the Internet,

there was a point in my life.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you remember back in the day,

like it was a big thing, the

pirates like videos that were

going to be coming.

Out and that guy from 60.

Minutes showed up in the

kitchen.

When you brought the beer.

Yeah, like Pirate Bay and stuff

like that.

When you when he showed up to a

house with squirt guns and.

Squirt guns and beer and the guy

from 60 minutes was.

There in trouble.

With Squirt.

Guns, she said.

She was 18.

Wow, no, I was teleported here.

No, listen, listen.

So there's a in Virginia who the

big provider is, is Verizon

FiOS.

And I remember I had gotten

Verizon FiOS because I lived in

an apartment.

So everybody had it and I was

pirating movies where I was just

downloading like all the new

stuff, right?

And all of a sudden, I got an

e-mail from Verizon and it said,

hey, we saw that you've been

pirating movies.

If you continue, we will bring

legal actions against you.

Oh.

Wow.

I was like I was just clicking

the e-mail, like making sure it

wasn't like a fake thing.

It was real.

It was legit.

Yeah, it was legit.

I was like, OK, I'm not pirated

in movies anymore.

Go get your go get those five

gift cards and send us all the

codes right away.

The only way, the only way that

this is going to work is if you

go and get you go to Walmart and

if you put it all in gift cards

and drop it into this mailbox.

Right.

It was crazy.

I was like, oh, OK, I'm not

doing this no more.

We need you to pick up some at.

Least they gave you a warning.

Well, there, I mean, yeah, I

guess like, there's no.

How do you really?

Like, have you ever heard of

anybody getting pops for

downloading on Pirate Bay 100

years ago?

Like, oh man.

There used to be, I don't know,

we never played paid for music

back in the 80s.

Yeah, download.

I mean it took all day to

download one song, but still in

the 80s you.

Downloaded stuff in the 80s.

Sure, we started in the late

80s.

Really.

I did.

That's incredible.

Yeah, you weren't even born yet.

I understand that dial up.

So I mean, it took all day long,

you know, to get well, you had

nobody picked up the phone

upstairs, but.

Yeah, I remember he was

government affiliation.

Wow, China and all that.

Are you sure it was the 80s?

Yeah, back then they had what

were called Electronic Bulletin

board services and you would

dial up and it would be some

server a guy had set up in his

house.

You leave a file, you take a

file type thing.

And what would you do with the

song?

Play it through your computer.

You.

Wouldn't put on anything else.

In the 80s, your computer had to

be.

Super small.

Screen humongous CPS there's.

Just one color green.

Or you had it hooked to an old

television.

Yeah, I didn't have a green

monochrome thing.

I had a old TVI.

Think after this piece of

information, I think Palmer's

been sandbagging us on knowing a

lot of technology type of stuff.

He might work for the CIA.

Right.

Oh well.

Yeah.

It's possible he could have just

like that, could have been the

whole plot, like how long you've

been here.

Here.

Yeah, like 11 years.

So they joined 11 years to

infiltrate us.

Yeah, 11 years.

Yeah, this is it.

We.

Had to load Greg into a false

sense of security.

It takes a long time.

He had to get deep in.

We're going down with.

Deep undercover with.

Chenji or whoever.

Chenji Ji Shen from yesterday,

Yeah.

The site reported that Shiny

Hunter sent extortion emails to

Pornhub and claimed the stolen

data includes a premium member's

e-mail address, activity type,

location, video URL, video name,

associated keywords and time

stamps showing when the activity

occurred.

I had a lot of information.

201,000,000 downloads or.

Views or something. 201 files.

201 million files.

You guys remember history in

this?

This is probably nobody in

Florida.

Why not?

Because, you know, in Florida

for Pornhub, it's a law.

You have to every time you get

on it, you have to upload your

ID.

Don't you remember this whole

law?

I remember when the the law

they.

Were talking about doing.

Something I forgot that it

happened, did it.

I thought it was like

Massachusetts or something that

had to do it.

You have to do it in Florida,

too.

Yeah, no, it went through and it

went through to like multiples.

You have to like take a picture

of your ID and upload it.

So do you just for you?

Do you just have?

You just have.

Somebody else's photo.

ID there, is it as easy for you

to transfer?

Why the?

Employees.

All your employees have to give

you a picture of their.

ID they all let me see your ID.

Well, they they know me as Greg

Smith.

They Yeah, I.

Use that ID.

You get a picture of Greg Smith.

Picture of Greg Smith.

Oh nice.

They're never going to know.

Well, no financial data appears

to be involved.

The potential exposure of

detailed viewing histories could

be extremely sensitive.

In short, the hackers could

attempt to pressure Pornhub by

threatening to release

information showing exactly what

premium members watch and when,

something many users would

understandably want to keep

private.

First of all, if it's on that

website, I'm sure nothing

surprising to anybody.

Yeah.

Oh, it could be.

What if, like, the pastor of

your church likes to, you know,

look at videos every once in a.

While isn't that a thing for

them?

Don't they do that anyways?

I don't know.

They don't tell.

You only Catholic or whatever, I

don't know.

Only Catholics.

I don't go to church anymore.

Wow.

Oh, Boots goes straight to hell,

and they wonder why.

Well, you're talking about the

priests.

Yeah, all right.

Well, measles are back.

Oh my God, now the Pornhub, now

the.

Pornhub The measles we're

running all over the world

today.

Measles are back.

Officials with the Polk County

Health Department on Thursday

confirmed a local case of

Measles County.

Yes, that's.

Pretty close.

This is local.

In a news release, the

department said that the case

involves an unvaccinated Polk

County infant who was too young

to be immunized.

The infant recently travelled to

an area where measles is

spreading, according to the

release.

At this time, there are no known

public exposure locations

associated with the case, and no

additional measles cases have

been identified in Polk County.

So you have a baby, a brand new

baby because you can't get.

So you go to where measles are.

Well, how do you know where

measles are?

Yeah.

Well, it had they, it had to

come in contact with somebody

who had measles.

It's not like, you know, they

pulled into Lakeland and.

But somebody could have it and

just be amongst people.

That's how viruses get the

that's all over you and

everything.

The.

Pictures of the baby look

terrible.

It's got these little red dots

everywhere.

Yeah, it's not like you can hide

measles.

Yeah, it's pretty like, you

know, the mumps and you just,

you get a little swelling.

How do?

You get the virus, you have to

go in contact with the person

that has it right.

That's the only way to get it.

With a measle person.

With a measle person.

OK.

Oh, let me hold the baby.

Where are all those dots?

All over you.

It's fine, don't worry.

Well, Palmer.

That's what I thought.

I thought measles was airborne.

Yeah, but didn't we all get

shots when we were kids for the

measles?

Well, that's a we have, but this

baby is too young to be

immunized, right?

Yeah, There are some religious

groups that.

When an infected person coughs,

sneezes, talks or breathes, they

release tiny droplets containing

the virus into the air.

Oh God.

So you have to be relatively

close.

It could just be airborne.

Don't go to Polk County.

Well, it's Polk County, Iowa.

The.

Virus can also land on surfaces,

and if you touch a contaminated

surface and then touch your

face, eyes, nose or mouth, you

can get infected.

And that's what babies do.

In Iowa.

So the four people in Iowa are

now infected.

Right.

Yeah, it's actually Polk's Polk

County.

Iowa.

Public health officials are

actively working.

Yeah, until they downloaded the

article, I didn't know it was

Iowa.

Either it's a totally different

Polk County.

Polk health officials are

actively working with the family

and healthcare providers to

ensure appropriate.

Bless you.

Oh God, measles, measles

everywhere.

They're flying in the air now.

They're everywhere.

Watch my hand.

No, I'm not touching.

Stay over there and follow up,

they said in the release.

Measles is one of the most

contagious viruses we know, and

it spreads quickly when people

travel and gather indoors, said

Julian Van Lew, Polk County

Health Department director.

Vaccination is the best

protection we have.

Making sure you and your family

are up to date on your MMR

vaccine helps protect infants

who are too young to be

vaccinated.

So, I mean, well, I assume all

of us here have been vaccinated

for measles, yes.

So then we can't get it.

I guess.

Can we still carry it?

No.

I will ask the machine of.

Magic.

Yeah, 'cause I mean, somebody

had to not be immunized to give

it to the baby.

Well, like, you know, like

Carlos was saying, there's a lot

of people that aren't immunized.

Right.

Oh, that's right.

They give you a low dose of the

thing and your body builds up

antibodies.

Yeah, yeah.

But you can't.

But but you can't carry it and

give it.

It's always a couple of betas

doing a podcast.

I don't know.

Let's all like boot to the end

TV get some measles.

No, I really can't get the

measles.

Can't.

Carry or transmit the weakened

vaccine virus to others and they

very rarely carry or transmit

the wild type measles.

Wild measles.

Wild.

Yeah, it's down in the wild.

And but you are too young to be

vaccinated and others who are at

higher risk for serious illness.

As of December 9th, a total of

1912 confirmed measles cases

were reported in the United

States, according to Iowa Health

and Human Services.

That includes 9 cases in Iowa

this year.

Don't go to Iowa.

Apparently that's where all the

measles are.

Yeah, the four people there,

that's why there's only four.

Yeah, it's four people in Iowa.

That's it.

Yeah, well. 1102 of them have

the measles, yeah.

What's the state next to it?

I don't know.

Yeah, me.

Idaho and Iowa.

But potato?

Potatoes have a natural defense

enzyme against measles.

Maybe they're counting the

potatoes?

Oh, Canadian potatoes.

Yeah, Canadian potatoes, John

Tavish potatoes.

John Mcdavish Potatoes.

As of late 2025, Iowa's

population is estimated at

approximately 3.26 million

people.

Wow man was I wrong.

Wow, it's a lot more than four,

huh?

I was way off Samsonite.

Samsonite All right, now we're

turning to Sports Rams.

Pakua Nakua, Akua.

Nakua.

Pakua nakua.

Pakua nakua.

He's from Hawaii.

He is.

Yes.

Puka, puka nakua.

Puka nakua.

I like Pakua you.

Know what's really funny is he

was reviewing before the show

and he said Pakua Nakua, is that

right?

And I go, yeah, it's correct.

I wasn't about to fix it.

It wasn't about what?

It's one of the best parts of

the show.

Duped again.

People do love the

mispronunciations, Yes, he

apologizes.

He had no idea the gesture he

made was offensive.

On Pornhub.

No, no, he was doing a live

feed.

Los Angeles Rams wide receiver,

The guy that Mikey was talking

about.

The guy's a stud.

Issued a statement Thursday.

Apologized for performing a

gesture on the Internet live

stream that was anti-Semitic in

nature and perpetually harmful

stereotypes against Jewish

people.

Yeah, I heard about.

This there's a thing.

What did he do though?

You No.

What did he do?

You can't find it anywhere I

looked.

Well, they yeah, they did take

it down.

No, it had something to do with

rubbing his hands together with

some way he rubbed his hands

together and he was going to use

that gesture.

Well, you would think the that

one he would know and he was

going to make it wild, man.

These guys talked him into

making it part of his touchdown.

So it's at the end until he

found out that he's being

offensive.

OK, so somebody was coaxing them

into doing this.

Did they have I'll intentions or

they're just like, oh that's

cool, we should do that?

We don't know.

I don't know if he just did it

or if they said, hey, you know,

it'd be funny.

Well, next time he shouldn't

believe the guys with all the

swastikas on their face.

Yeah, I wouldn't trust them,

Yeah.

In the statement, Nikua said at

the time he had no idea of the

nature of the gesture, which has

been associated with

anti-Semitic themes.

I deeply apologize to anyone who

was offended by my actions, and

I do not stand for any form of

racism, bigotry or hate of

another group of people in the

Kuwa wrote.

The Kuwa made the gesture on

live stream Tuesday with two

Internet streamers, Aiden Ross

and Neon Nee 3O3-ON.

Is it Neeon who suggested he

perform the gesture as part of

his next touchdown celebration?

And these guys knew what they

were.

Doing they're in trouble.

I think so.

I think they set them up.

Is he?

We have a a guest member in the

house and he said that live

studio audience neon is no

bueno.

No good name, no bueno.

The NFL strongly condemns all

forms of discrimination in

derogatory behavior directed

towards any group or individual,

the league said in a statement

Thursday.

The continuing rise of

anti-Semitism.

Anti-Semitism must be addressed

across the world and NFL will

continue to stand with our

partners in this fight.

Hatred has no place in our sport

or society.

The Rams issued a statement

Thursday saying.

There's no place in this world

for anti anti-Semitism as well

as other forms of prejudice or

hostility towards the Jewish

people and people of any

religion, ethnicity or race.

Ethnicity.

Yeah, that too.

The streamers attempted to enter

the Rams practice facility

Tuesday, but were turned away by

the team.

In the same live stream.

Nikua said NFL referees are the

worst and that they and that he

thinks some refs make calls just

to get on TV during games.

Some refs make calls, I think on

TV because the spreads involved

and apparently the NFL is the

saying that they're looking into

this further, that's some of

these calls have been so

obnoxious.

Give my money back.

But we'll see.

I don't know how true that is.

I get my news from Palmer and my

12 year old son.

So.

So they did play the video when

he said that the refs fake calls

again on TV to play it but they

nobody will show what he did

with his hands.

Yeah.

I mean, well look like, Oh yeah,

something like that.

And so it's apparent you would.

Not have known.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

You know, it's just like.

But you don't even want to.

Be close.

No one's, no one's for hate or,

or, well, I mean, I guess some

people are, but you know, the

majority of people I mean.

Boots so.

Other than boots, the majority

of people are not pro any of

that shit.

Sure, it's just garbage so you

know it's.

Everybody's just so over

careful.

It's yeah, but like the problem

is that when you have too much

of an overreach of something,

then then people go nuts.

Like fucking triangles.

We lost triangles.

We lost, you know, for the whole

pizza gate fucking crazy

bullshit when people went nuts

with the Q Anon yadda yadda

like.

What do we do with this triangle

then?

I am.

I'm familiar with the triangles

because someone that I'm a

closely affiliated with had a

triangle on their label and they

got.

Blamed for those things.

Oh, I'm sorry, right?

And it's like, wait a second,

it's just a shape.

Right, like the triangle turns

sideways everybody.

Relax.

Yeah, Like what?

What are we doing?

What are we doing?

So you.

Know, we know a lot of the

haters are always going to hate

Brown.

They're always going to try to

rise to the top.

That's just how it is.

OK, well, you know, you know,

puka Nakua.

Uh oh.

Fred Roue, Guest visit.

Who let him in?

Yeah, this is.

Who let anybody Wow did your?

Fingerprint work.

Yeah, that's our newest Patreon

member.

Nice.

Mr. Fred Roue.

This is not the Patreon show,

yes.

Yes, Welcome, Sir, welcome.

It's just insane, you know?

I mean, And like, it's too bad

because Pukunaku doesn't strike

me as that type of a guy.

No, that guy is not.

Hard no.

He didn't know what he was.

Doing that's what you know, so

like to instantly have to go out

and and state this public

apology and all this other shit

and I'm just like, Oh my God,

man, what are we doing right?

I wonder if somebody saw it and

said something or those two guys

started snickering and going we

got him to do it.

Look at that.

Maybe.

But then at that point you got

to say someone sells a piece of

shit and here's why and you

know.

I think everything blew up too

in the sports world when John

Moran did his thing right?

Like obviously his was bad.

What we need to the machine gun

shooting, everybody did it, but

it obviously was at that point

in time there was things going

on the news where school

shootings were happening and

stuff.

It's like man, you just picked

the wrong time to.

Just motioning the machine gun.

I don't see what the problem

I've.

Seen that a lot?

Well, not anymore, but.

You can't do shotgun, they can't

do any of that stuff.

Like who cares?

Everybody falls down after.

So what are we going to like,

banish all shows that have guns?

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, oh, this is it's not real.

It's crazy.

This is crazy.

Well, they're not, They're not.

I mean they just fined him and

told him he needs a.

Yeah, that's so dumb.

Baker got Baker and Abuka got

fined for something.

Had abuka, Yeah, abuka buka

buka.

What's that 25,000?

Yeah, 25 large for making some

kind of they did the thing like

a hand thing.

The way he's lit up by the

corner, it was like the devil is

sitting.

Back here behind me, the devil

is sitting behind you, make no

mistake.

All right, now cigar news,

Michael.

Now we're moving into.

That was it.

We're.

Not the game.

Oh wow.

OK.

No, the game was crazy.

Yeah, that was a great game last

night.

There was a play where there was

a lateral pass.

I know you know exactly what

that.

Means I know what a lateral.

Pass and it bounced off the

helmet of the guy and it jumped

into the end zone and everybody

thought the play was dead and

Seattle Seahawks just kind of

picked it up.

I think it was Smith.

No Charbonnette.

Charbonnette.

Yeah, he picked.

It up.

That's the kind of toilet paper

we used.

After they reviewed they was

considered a touchdown or two

point conversion.

Yeah, 2 point 'cause they

needed.

It and they wound up, they wound

up going in overtime, they wound

up winning the game because of

something like that.

Yeah, that there is going to be

a lot of question of that game

really, I guarantee it.

Well, the refs just do the calls

so they can get on TV.

What was the spread?

I didn't.

Money makers, what do you got?

On the spreads anymore?

Let's go, money makers.

I'm only on the parlay.

I had a 88 stick parlay and I

had Smith Najibga I'm.

I'm trying to steer away from

football.

We did with we did with money on

that game only because it went

into overtime.

But I've been trying to stick to

basketball.

Really.

Yeah.

And basketball is even kind of

questionable.

You got to like really buy down

everybody.

And it's it's it's.

Wild.

Just the the whole mafia and

Hard Rock and all that.

It's not the Mafia.

It was better when the mafia ran

it.

Whatever it was, more organized

it was.

Whether it's it was.

Smaller.

Now it's scaled if when it

scales, that's when it becomes

problematic.

Yeah, it's problematic, yeah.

Yeah, so you're broke yet?

No, I, I went.

To cash money from the now on I.

Went pretty good money in the

past two.

Days you have 30 GS.

You were at 7:00 not that long

ago.

Yeah.

Where you at now?

I'm probably over that.

I've I've actually because of

our friend in the audience over

here for some reason, I got onto

the slots on Hard Rock now.

So it's a gateway.

It's a gateway, our friend in

the audience.

Can you confirm that he's above

or below the $7000 mark of the

money makers gambling he?

Probably doesn't know that

number, I know.

That OK, so we can confirm he

knows.

That he has a problem.

We can confirm that he's a

gambler.

Aside from that, he has some

wins.

OK, He's got some.

He's got a couple.

Dubs win yesterday.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Korean baseball.

No, I stayed away from Korean

baseball now.

Yeah, he said.

He's betting basketball now,

yeah.

Korean basketball.

I don't know if I was a if I was

a habitual gambler, yes, I feel

like I'd.

Be a.

Degenerate.

I'd be able to tell you exactly

where I'm at.

I'm like.

Well, maybe he does a.

One I'm at I'm at 10.

Oh are you kidding me?

If he had 20 in the in the bank

from betting. 1st of.

All without hesitation.

He.

You wouldn't know instead of

show.

Mike, you wouldn't know if I had

20 in the bank 'cause I'd be in

there buying boxes of cigars.

Let's go, let's rage.

It's cars for everybody.

Break out them open shoes I.

Can't feel my legs legit.

All right, Cigar News Ottinger

Davidoff names Javier Gonzalez

the top marketing role.

Damn I I put threw my hat in

for.

That oh, did you you applied for

this?

Yeah, the parent of the

Davanoff, Avo and Camacho brands

has announced that it has hired

Javier Gonzalez as its new SVP,

head of global marketing and

innovation.

Could have been me.

He takes over that title from

Edward Simon, the long time

Davidoff employee who has held

the role since 2018.

Did he get fired or was he?

No, he had two jobs earlier this

year.

Simon was also two jobs.

He had two jobs to dab it off

and now he only has 10.

He's cut.

He's making cutbacks, yes.

Was that on purpose or is that

like a scam?

I don't know, let's read on and

find out what's that I would

have matched.

Yeah, like, hey, we're going.

To Simon was also given the role

of overseeing the company's

sales.

As of January 1st, 2026, his

dual roles will come to an end.

Simon will focus on sales.

Gonzalez will oversee the

marketing.

As part of the change, Simon's

new title SVP, Chief Sales

Officer.

Gonzalez most recently served as

a global marketing digital

innovation officer of Avatola,

formerly known as Du Fry Aga,

publicly traded Swiss duty free

conglomerate that owns brands

like Hudson and World Duty Free

Group.

Prior to his 15 years at

Ovatola, he had stints at

British American Tobacco,

Coca-Cola and Lego.

Coca-Cola, Lego, but he was

marketing department.

Marketing Department.

Hey, I mean, those are good

companies.

He's a marketing department.

Now if you had, oh, I thought,

oh, that's a new guy.

The new guy's in charge of

marketing.

And he did Lego, yes.

Wait, why would he leave those

companies?

What's a What makes you think he

had a choice?

Listen, if you're marketing

like, that's the tough one to

hang.

On and and innovation, though.

Yeah, you got to prove that it's

working.

You got to be innovative.

I mean, Legos had a big uptick.

Why?

Why did Legos have a big uptick?

Maybe because of this guy?

I don't know.

But I don't know what they did.

Oh, I.

Don't know.

OK, what?

They made Lego movies.

Oh.

I mean, I've never bought a Lego

for Lego movies, but but like

Harry Potter, Legos, Star Wars

Legos, like all that stuff has

been huge lately.

But the resurgence of Legos for

kids is the fact that they

started oh.

You think the Lego movies did?

It of course, that was the whole

purpose of.

Doing it, yeah.

That's why they did it.

That's why they Lego Batman.

That's why all those things

exist.

Yeah, right.

Some.

Yeah, The collabs as well.

Right.

Harry Potter.

You're right, but the just the

standard Lego movie was really

is one of the things that kind

of put it back in kids minds.

That was marketing.

It was probably expensive

marketing.

Yeah, because how much do you

think it is to do a movie?

I don't know.

But as long as it was a

blockbuster hit or or whatever.

Wasn't Davidoff just downsizing?

Well it sound you don't think

this is downsizing.

They hired somebody.

But they took a guy off the

board, they reduced him just to

sales.

Oh, OK.

Yeah, I guess it's still down.

I don't know.

Yeah, it's possible that the

guy's sale base and Commission

base as well off of his salary,

right?

So if he was higher, you know,

this is all theoretical, but if

he was higher paid for a

marketer and now you replace him

with somebody else, you can

lower that base.

At least I would think so.

But Palmer's going to tell us.

Exactly how much?

We have an estimate.

I know he's itching for it.

I'm honored to join the Honor

Davidoff family at such an

exciting moment.

Anninger David is Anninger

Davidoff is a house in

extraordinary heritage, built on

craftsmanship, quality and deep

respect for its root, said

Gonzalez in a press release.

Throughout my career, I've been

passionate about elevating

brands, strengthening customer

engagement, and shaping digital

and Omni channel experiences.

That creates long term values.

I look forward to bringing the

experience to Davidoff,

enhancing the emotional power of

the brand, deepening our

connection with consumer

worldwide and supporting the

continued growth of our wide

portfolio.

We're going to skip the rest.

He goes on to whatever.

All right.

We don't know what the man

makes.

We don't, but we have an

estimated compensate

compensation for Mr. Javier

based on and information

available on the Internet for

similar roles at other luxury

based Switzerland companies.

OK.

How many other?

How many other luxury brand in

Switzerland?

I have no idea.

A whole bunch of a whole bunch

of all right, they're estimating

base salary $450,000.

What?

I told you I put my hat in

there. 400 We could all put our

hat in there and split it.

The three of us could work

together the unit.

Three of us doing it, this guy.

Probably run circles around us.

Listen, your marketing skills

are horrible.

We're going to do a podcast, us

three, and then we'll just split

the money.

All right.

Long term incentive perks,

executive packages at this

level, equity, stock plans,

pensions, relocation benefits,

etcetera can push total

compensation well above

$800,000, particularly if

performance targets are

exceeded.

Man summary compensation.

They estimate base salary

between 300 and 450.

Total cash 400 to 700,000.

No, I would say it's probably

300 to 450.

I would imagine so too.

So PCA money?

What's that PCA money?

Yeah, What was Josh Joshua?

Bursky's at 3:50.

I think we found out.

Damn man.

Where did we go wrong?

I.

Just saw Instagram posts.

He's out, you know.

He's out experiencing.

Christmas in Europe or whatever.

With the with the guy, the the

education ambassador, dude,

they're just running around the.

Country now together.

And now the new marketing guy

for Davidoff.

Yeah, he's probably part of the

club.

Yeah, let's go on.

Well, they might not like him.

He makes more than they do.

Let's.

Go on a trip, guys.

Let's go on a trip.

You bring your jet.

You kidding me?

Yeah, these are educated

estimates based on senior

marketing roles at global Swiss

based luxury companies and

typical exchange rates.

The actual package could vary.

You're not saying that's how

much the man makes.

OK.

Yeah, all.

Right, but if he did.

It'd probably be something.

Like that he could buy this

$16,500 cigar cutter table

lighter from Dunhill.

From who?

Dunhill Fred, could you confirm

that that was the price 400 and

ish thousand for a Davidoff

marketing salary?

What do you think?

I don't.

Know I mean I I doubt that the

compensation goes over half

million little.

Sentence though, OK, You can't

hear Fred, he said.

Definitely yes.

That's awesome.

He didn't say that.

I'm he didn't say that.

Well, but getting back to the

other thing, you know what's

kind of crazy?

I know that we talked briefly

about Lego, but if you remember,

not that long ago, maybe about

1520 years ago, about 15 years

ago, Harley Davidson's sales

were through the roof.

Everybody had a Harley.

Why did that happen?

Oktoberfest.

No, Oktoberfest had nothing to

do with it.

Oktoberfest.

There was ATV show that was a

huge hit.

Do you remember it?

Oh, Sons of Anarchy, Sons of

Anarchy.

And everybody needed to have a

Harley.

I want to be like Jack.

So, you know, major marketing

actually works when you tie it

in with Hollywood.

So everybody's going to start

smoking cigars.

We need to make a cigar movie.

If you had a bunch of if you, if

you had captivating villains or

heroes that were all cigar guys.

Well, we are the villains,

supposedly.

What?

Are you going to be the Penguin?

No, no, I mean not like a

dressed up villain, but we are

the villains of the media.

I guess they were.

Bad for the industry, they.

Were bad for the industry.

I don't know if I don't know how

much that's.

One guy's opinion.

Yeah, maybe 2.

We don't.

And yeah, that's whatever.

We only know one for sure.

A lot of other people like us.

Yeah.

People like us, yeah.

But no, I'm being serious.

You know, if you really wanted

to propel this industry into it

being becoming more socially

acceptable is you would need

heroes smoking cigars, you know,

and it had to be kind of in

their rotation.

You need a really awesome

villain, maybe an anti hero that

was a cigar guy.

Even if it was ATV series.

I bet you Sopranos helped boost

cigar sales.

Oh.

Maybe.

Luciano could be the villain.

I bet you if you tracked it, if

you looked at the data of when

Sopranos hit that show and

overall cigar comes on, I bet

you that there was an uptick.

You think Luciano could wear

like a monocle?

No.

Sorry, that would be funny.

Cao numbers.

Because they dropped the.

Cigar, Right, Right.

Yeah.

They had The Sopranos release

and I bet you that that popped

too, 'cause people that were

just collectors of Sopranos

stuff, probably one of the

cheaters.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I remember when Guy Fieri

first started with.

Carlos is like this close to

replacing you.

He hasn't mentioned Diddy one

time, you know, And he.

Hasn't cursed.

He hasn't cursed it all either.

Yeah, I I remember when Guy

Fiery.

You first started.

Can you just do that?

Can you do the one and?

The two and the one and the two.

Wow, value of me.

Is go ahead.

So anyways I.

Remember when Guy Fiery first

started?

Remember we went to the Great

Smoke?

That was like his first, Like,

you know, everybody could come

see him.

And I remember the cigar boxes.

Remember, everybody was outside

and they were dumping all the

cigars out-of-the-box.

Were they?

Yeah.

And then they you.

Were inside at that point you

were out.

There, Yeah, we were inside.

We didn't see anything.

Whoa, I, Eric took me out there

to go meet him.

So when I was out there, they

were dumping all the cigars out

and they wanted just the box so

he could sign it and take a

picture with him with it.

Really, that doesn't help the

industry.

Did you pick up all the cigars?

I I asked.

He said no.

He said leave him on table.

There you go, and.

He likes cigars.

Yeah.

Booch, can you give Carlos your

seat, please?

Yeah, 'cause we can't hear him

on the mics.

Unbelievable, you guys.

Aren't he just put us in a

movie?

Yeah, just like that.

Just like that, we're in a movie

now.

I would be in the movie too,

Palmer.

You know, of all the movies that

I've seen, you know what cigar

that I see is the most notable?

But can you guess?

For cigars.

Yeah, I always try to look and

figure out what.

They are.

If you could see a cigar that's

the that always kind of pops in

a, in a, in a movie or a show, I

could tell you that there's one

in particular that I see the

most.

Last action hero.

No, the cigar.

No, the cigar not the most the.

Cigar.

Ding Ding Ding, Bing bong.

Yeah, I'm thinking Fuente.

It's. 100% correct.

So Opus X.

Oh.

Opus.

It's not just Fuente, it's

specifically.

Opus Opus with the rainbow X

instead.

It's it.

You can definitely distinctly

see that it says Opus X.

Wasn't it Senzafina that Jalen

Hurts was smoking this past

Super Bowl?

He's in the poster.

Yeah, I think so.

And I think the Dodgers had it

too, or something like that.

I saw the poster the other day.

Yeah, but it doesn't.

It's not as big of an impact as

it is in a movie.

Yeah, crazy.

I'm sorry, I was just I.

Yeah, don't be sorry.

Be better.

Yeah, you went to the the table

lighter store you want to jump

tell me the what's the?

Score.

Tell me the you're.

Supposed to tell us the price.

Yeah, I did $16,500.

Well, many companies make

combinations, cigar cutter and

lighters, mostly under the guise

that they make a convenient

combination for a cigar smoker.

Whoever.

The new Dunhill Cigar Cutter

Table Lighter is not going to be

marketed as such.

It's not small, it's not very

portable, and it's not all that

affordable.

The Dunhill Silver Cigar Cutter

Table Lighter is a three piece

design that includes a desktop

cigar cutter with four different

cutting options, a removable

base, and a Dunhill Turbo

lighter that is designed to be

stored inside the base.

Oh, so $16,000.

It's not bedazzled like Prince

of Boobies.

No, Nope, no, it's not

bejeweled.

As for the cutter, it's a multi

cut lever design, A concept that

has been used by other companies

as well.

There are four different

openings, 2 straight cuts and

two V cuts.

The holes are different sizes

designed to accommodate cigars

of various ring gauges.

One unique part of the cutter is

is that there is a lid that can

be closed when it's not in use

on the website Dunhill so you

don't cut your fingers I.

Guess all right, we got it.

Expensive cigar you're.

The one told me a Polish.

Story I know, but I didn't

realize it was past 5:00.

Man, I was perfectly fine

without it.

All right, very expensive

$16,000.

Very expensive.

You can cut 4 different ways.

You can get lighter in the base

blah blah blah blah blah.

There's a It's a car.

Yes, Yeah, it's nice.

It's a used Model S.

Yeah, yeah.

You guys ready now for What's

the Score mini game?

Yes, very excited.

Yeah, ready.

It's time for.

What's the score?

There we go.

All right.

December 18th, 2025.

Brooks Whittington.

It's a Dominican Republic

General Cigar Company.

Limited Edition Reviews of The

Buffalo Trace, Limited Edition,

2025.

Oh, this cigar.

I love it.

Boots go first.

Buffalo Trace.

Yep, Buffalo Trace cigar. 75.

I thought you said you loved it.

I was being sarcastic. 88.

All right, it's a Buffalo Trace

Limited edition 2025.

It's from the Dominican Republic

factory Undisclosed rapper

Undisclosed, But then as

Parentheses Habano 2000 Binder

Dominican Republic Criojo 98

Filler Dominican Republic Crojo

HVA Peloto Cubano length 6 by 50

and they smoked free cigars.

Free 75. 86.

Oh, quite the variance there.

Yeah, he'll jump at the end.

The cigars delivered a layered

and evolving flavor profile,

highlighted by creamy oak,

almond and milk chocolate

sweetness, with consistent

complexity from the first light

through the final third.

The transition, especially the

shift from espresso bitterness

to smoother, creamier notes,

show thoughtful blending.

Boots. 78. 88.

Clue #2 Despite minor touch ups,

the cigars produce dense,

satisfying smoke with excellent

draw resistance.

The Retro Hell remains

approachable yet flavorful

throughout, balancing white

pepper and milk chocolate

sweetness and adding depth

without overpowering the palate.

Man, he really likes this cigar

87. 90 OH.

Construction consistency is an

issue across samples, with

uneven firmness, frequent burn

corrections and sporadic

bitterness, particularly in the

final thirds, detracting from an

otherwise refined and well

developed smoking experience is.

That the last one and.

There's a final thought.

OK. 87. 88 Final thought, Let's

get one thing out of the way up

front.

I did not taste any barrel

notes, the closest I found was

the dominant creamy yolk flavor

that was present for the entire

cigar.

With that said, the other

flavors in the profile,

including almonds and an ever

present lemongrass note are

quite enjoyable and the

construction gave me no major

issue.

I have not smoked any of the

other Buffalo Trace releases,

and while the Buffalo Trace

Limited Edition 2025 does not

have the most complex profile in

the world, it is an extremely

approachable blend that just

about anyone who smokes cigars

could enjoy.

Man, I'm trying to make this

three in a row.

All these drags down a row over

there, yeah.

I like your odds.

I like your chances.

I'm sticking at 87.

Damn that's tough.

I think it's better than at 87.

He says it's good, but it's not

the best.

But everybody could smoke it.

Yeah.

Do I want to go below 87 is the

question.

What do you think, Palmer?

I can't tell you I'm looking at

the score.

You better not be pointing over

there.

He's out.

Hands are down by my side on the

chair.

I'm going to stick at 88. 88 The

streak is over.

Boost.

Unbelievable.

Not only is the streak over, but

I nailed it, which is something

you haven't been able to do.

You said 87.

I thought you had another one.

I thought he.

I.

Just couldn't see him going

higher.

Than that I thought he was going

to go under.

That was tight, God.

Brooks, he's always so tough.

OK, anything else to add?

That's it guys, this has been

episode 434 I.

Believe we hope you're enjoying

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Show Notes

On todays show

Youtube is the way of the future home entertainment.

In South Florida you apparently can be teleported in a new BMW

One of the worlds biggest Porn website was hacked and we know what Boots likes to Watch!

In Polk County Measles is back after a 29 year absence

In Sports Pacu Nauka is in trouble

In Cigar news Davidoff has decided to spend some of that extra cash they have!

And a 16,000 table cutter and lighter for Christmas

And then finally a mini what’s the score!

All this and the bad for the industry comments you have grown to love on episode 434 of The Cigar Hustlers Podcast!