ACHP Episode 437 There Goes The Neighborhood
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As far as we know.
I'm Mike Palmer, and this is
episode 437 of the Cigar Hustler
Podcast.
With me today is Boots.
No, I'm not Santa Claus,
Hippelhauser.
You so funny.
Our engineer and with me as
always, my Co host Mikey.
Can I have seconds on the
stuffing step on Kevitch,
seconds on the stuffing, seconds
on the stuffing.
That's not nice.
And on today's show, we have the
gift that keeps on giving.
Mark Zuckerberg gives more gifts
to all his neighbors.
A shark attack claims a life and
then in cigars fox cigars gets
Chinese take out more UTL news
and the La Vega has a big
announcement all this and more
in episode 437 of a cigar
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OK, tell me about Zuck.
That's not the first story.
OK, then tell me about.
Your the gift that keeps on
giving.
More Epstein files have been
released.
I'm very excited the Justice
Department has released a new
batch of documents tied to the
investigation of convicted sex
offender Jeffrey Epstein.
I don't know if these come out
daily, coming out weekly, but
I'm really enjoying this.
Adding more fuel to the already
murky and controversial case,
the The release included more
than 30,000 heavily redacted
pages, some of which reference,
are or mention President Donald
Trump.
Mm hmm.
Among the documents is a 2019
handwritten letter that appears
to be signed by Epstein and
addressed to disgraced former US
gymnastic doctor Larry Nassar.
That's the dude they busted for
giving all the creepy massages
and exams.
He got popped.
Yeah, he's in.
He's in the pokey now.
Is he still alive?
He's in jail.
I thought that guys like that
don't live long in prison.
Well, he's not giving massages
anymore.
He might be giving massages.
He might be getting massages.
The letter contains a line
claiming and I quote.
Our president also shares our
love of young nubile girls in
parentheses.
Which president?
Trump.
At that time, he wasn't a
president, though.
Anyways, it was the first time
he was president.
Oh.
The Department of Justice later
stated that the letter is fake
and does not represent a
verified communication from
Epstein, which means, oops, that
got through.
I mean, that doesn't
necessarily.
That doesn't necessarily mean
that.
No, it doesn't necessarily come
on.
I mean, but you got to figure
they can let us know what they
want to let us know.
They just redact it and say
because of national security,
ain't nobody checking.
Yeah, well, you think of that?
That would accidentally leak
out. 30,000 files, things fall
through.
No way.
Not like that.
So how did a fake letter get in
the pile?
How do you know it was in the
pile?
They said it was 30, that it was
in a pile.
How do you know it was in the
pile?
The story says it's in a pile.
Yeah, but that's part of the
pile that just leaked out.
I mean, I don't know.
Another document drawing
attention is a 2020 internal
e-mail from an assistant US
attorney.
The e-mail alleges that Trump
may have traveled on Epstein's
private jet more times than
previously reported.
I mean, I OK, so I took a right
on the jet.
Here we go.
Here we go.
According to that e-mail, Trump
is listed as a passenger on at
least eight flights between 93
and 96.
The Department of Justice
emphasized that these claims are
unverified and appear in
internal correspondence, not
sworn testimony or established
findings in a findings.
In a statement accompanying the
release, the Justice Department
said the files contain untrue
and sensationalist claims made
against President Trump.
Officials also make clear that
Trump has not been accused of
any wrongdoing related to
Epstein, nor has he been charged
or named as a suspect in any
Epstein related criminal case.
Well, he's not going to be.
I mean, he's the president,
President, for God's sake.
Can he pardon himself?
I pardon myself.
Yes, I these are not the droids
that you're looking for.
These are not the droids you're
looking for.
These are not the charges you
want to give me.
As with previous Epstein
documents released, as much as
material is fragmented, redacted
and uncorroborated highlight how
difficult it remains to separate
fact from rumor in one of the
most scrutinized investigations
of the past decade.
That's true.
I mean, somebody just throws out
there's a picture of Donald with
a little girl, You know, we
never have to see it.
Does everybody go?
They're right.
Yeah, it's that's that is the
the wild part of this whole
thing, Right.
But at the end of the day, if we
can sift through some of these
things and hold some people
accountable, I'm for that.
Are you not for?
That well, I am for that.
And I don't care who it is.
So this is back in the 90s, so
we're going back 25 to 30 years
ish.
I don't know what's the statue
of limitations on pedophilia.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
Maybe 20 years?
25 years.
So if they did it back then and
they can't be prosecuted now
anyway.
Yeah, but listen, even if you
can't be prosecuted, they can be
disgraced, you know what I mean?
There's there, there can we can
still do something, you know,
like it should come to light one
way or the other.
Sure.
I'm a fan of getting to the
truth.
You know, I hope that we do.
And and a lot of these cases, if
not all of them.
Why?
Why do you think they're
redacting so much?
It can't be national security.
I don't know.
Because, because, because it's
probably protecting people.
They want it protected.
That's how this works.
Right.
So they, yeah, we're not going
to.
So why are they saying?
I mean, you think Trump would be
the head guy?
He could go look anything with
my name on it.
Just put down a little mark
across it and then we can see
it.
Well, that's why I'm saying it's
highly likely that he any of
that was leaked with him.
You know what I mean?
That's why it's probably
anything that's popped up is
probably not true.
I would say that it's probably
makes sense, yeah, but because
if it was, it'd probably be
covered up.
Right, right.
Some movie director from
Hollywood, though.
His name's going right at the
top of the list.
Well, it depends upon was he an
active contributor to XYZI Mean?
Who knows dude.
Somebody who's already dead,
pray his name on everything.
There you.
Go.
Oh, that guy, You're not going.
To believe this, I'm not.
Going to believe it, Former
director of National security
Mark Zuckerberg.
That's just the next name on the
All right, let's see what Mr.
Zuckerberg is up to.
Mark Zuckerberg gifted noise
cancelling headphones to his
Palo Alto neighbors because of
the non-stop construction around
his eleven homes.
Apparently he's he's buying up
this neighborhood every time a
house goes for sale.
I'm mine.
Mine.
Mine billionaire Meta CEO Mark
Zuckerberg has reported been on
wearing been wearing thin on the
patients of his neighbors in
Palo Alto as years of
construction continue around his
ever expanding residential
compound.
According to the New York Times,
Zuckerberg recently offered a
small piece gesture noise
cancelling headphones for his
next door neighbors.
That's very nice.
It's funny.
It's.
Funny like the parents on the
plane to pass out little candies
and earplugs because their kids
going.
To please pardon our dust while
I destroy this entire
neighborhood.
Will I make it my compound?
While I make this my compound.
Zuckerberg, who Co founded
Facebook and now Leeds Meta, has
spent more than 110 million over
the past 14 years acquiring at
least 11 homes in Palo Alto's
Crescent Park neighborhood, now
called Zuckerbergville.
We call this Facebook.
Once the quiet enclave of
lawyers, business executives in
Stanford Professors area has
gradually transformed into a
zone marked by construction
equipment, heightened security
and frequent high profile
gatherings.
Some of the properties remain
unoccupied despite the region's
well documented housing
shortage, while others have been
converted into guest houses,
gardens and pickleball courts.
And a pool with a hydro floor.
What is a hydro floor?
I want one.
I have no idea is it floor?
Maybe it's so you can swim
against it.
Maybe that's what it is.
You know, the makes the water
come at you.
Maybe, maybe if someone would
find out what a hydro floor is.
Piece boots is not.
I look for you, hydro.
How do you spell hydro?
Yeah, exactly.
TT.
Yeah, it starts with AT boots.
Keep looking.
TW.
At one point, a private school
for Zuckerberg's children and a
few others operated on a
property, an arrangement that
reportedly conflicted with local
zoning rules.
Beneath the compound, Zuckerberg
added roughly 7000 square feet
of underground space described
in permits as basements, an
offer referred by neighbors as
bunkers or a billionaire's bat
cave.
OK, hold on.
A hydro floor is a high tech
movable pool floor that raises
and lowers with the push of a
button, transforming a swimming
pool into a solid, usable patio,
dance floor or event space.
Maximizing property utility.
Offering adjustable depth for
safety and recreation.
Oh my, acting as a secure pool.
Oh, thank you very much.
That's very nice.
So pretty much what it is is
it's like the.
Kids are coming.
Put it at 3 feet.
Yeah, let's fill up the.
Let's put the pool down.
Right now we're going to play
water polo, put it down to 10
feet.
Imagine having so much money
where you can just add the pool
and then you know what?
I'm going to take it away today.
I don't need it.
I don't need it today.
Raise it up.
Make all the water go away.
No pool, no pool.
Or check out the espionage
level.
What you can do is you can tie
somebody to a chair, right?
Put them in the pool.
Yeah, no.
Put them on the regular floor
and then have them start asking
questions, asking them questions
and as they don't answer, slowly
start to fill the pool.
You're going to die.
You can take him down with a bat
cave.
Similar underground construction
has drawn attention at his
Kauai, Hawaii, estate, with
which Zuckerberg insists is not
a doomsday bunker.
Much of the Could you dig that
deep in Hawaii?
No.
It's nothing nothing to see
here.
Nothing to see here.
It's not a bad cave.
It's not a doomsday bunker.
This is perfectly fine.
You would expect to see this in
Hawaii.
Much of the neighborhood
frustrated stems from nearly 8
consecutive years of
construction.
Eight years.
With residents citing block
streets, debris, constant noise
and a heavy security presence.
In addition to headphones,
Zuckerberg staff has been
reported distributed sparkling
wine and Krispy Kreme doughnuts.
Here's some Donuts.
Here's some Donuts.
Sorry that we're crushing your
gazalias again.
It's almost been a decade and we
are destroying your
neighborhood.
Have these Donuts.
And these noise cancelling
headphones or you look silly
when you wear.
Put these headphones on and eat
these.
Donuts.
I hope it's the kind of make you
look like cats or something with
the little things in the OR
SpongeBob ones or something.
They say meta, they say meta I.
Don't say they got the F on the
side.
So why don't Why don't these
people just move I.
Don't want to move from
Zuckerville?
Dude, I'm packing my shit.
I'm getting.
Roving security team just as
safe as you've ever been.
But it's loud and annoying.
They're rich people.
They just want to bitch.
No, OK.
Probably.
You're probably right.
They're not Zuckerberg rich.
No, they don't.
They don't have.
He would love for them to move
because then he will buy their
house and add it to the
compound.
Exactly.
So they're so he's surrounded by
wealth, but none of them.
Not his wealth scratch.
The surface of Zuck.
I mean.
Honestly though, like home is
supposed to be a place of peace.
Peace and drink will anyway I
can.
Kind of chill if somebody's
there and they are disturbing my
peace and there's nothing I can
do about it.
I got to, I got to pack it in,
you know, it's time for me to
go.
That's what he wants.
Move the wall another 200 feet
that way and bring that house
inside.
Yeah, he's purposely annoying
the shit out of them, right?
And then giving them Krispy
Kremes to offset it.
Krispy Kremes and Sparkling.
It's like, oh, oh, you want to
leave?
Go, go together.
Oh, I'm sorry, this too much.
Too much.
If you want, I'll buy your
house.
Yeah, you just leave.
Mr. Zuckerberg will buy your
home from you.
Facebook land, he calls it.
Spokesperson for Zuckerberg told
Fortune that he and his family
value being members of the
community and have taken steps
beyond local requirements to
minimize the eruption
disruption.
This is not Zuckerberg's first
real estate clash.
In 2016, Palo Alto officials
rejected plans for large
compound redevelopment, though
critics say similar work later
moved forward in pieces.
Beyond California, Zuckerberg
owns major properties in Hawaii,
Lake Tahoe, Washington, DC, each
drawing its own share of
scrutiny.
It's been eight years.
He keeps buying another house.
It's been 8 years of him doing
construction in this
neighborhood.
By then, you know the like the
pickleball used to be tennis
courts, now it's all pickleball.
So we got to go pickleball.
Right.
Like we want to pretend that we
play tennis, so we'll play
pickleball.
So the the the in color now is
taupe.
I need everything painted dope.
He's got he's got his jiu jitsu
mats.
He's probably got a US.
D.
E fighting Fighting house.
This is my fighting house.
This.
Is where I go to fight.
This is where I keep my dragon.
Don't anybody look.
This is not.
This is not my dragon.
This is.
Not my dragon.
This is not my dragon you're
looking for.
OK, so yeah, man.
Do you move or do you suck it up
and stay?
I pack my shit.
But then he wins.
I live to fight another day.
You have to understand where you
can win the battles and the wars
here, like this is a battle that
you're not going to win.
No, there's no way you can win
this.
All the money in the world, his
PR department's already saying.
Well, we're doing everything we
can to be nice.
I'm like.
OK, Donuts.
Look, it, look, it's been 8
years.
I don't, I don't care how nice
you've been.
It doesn't.
That's irrelevant, right?
Why don't you just work it into
being his friend, invited to the
big the big house in the middle
up on the hill.
I become his, I become his
friend by say hey, listen, make
me a good offer on this house
and I will quietly leave.
We can be friends.
I'd like to come over for the
Christmas.
Party excellent.
My plan is there game.
Will Tom Cruise bring the the
Bundt?
Coconut cake?
Nope, they get in trouble.
There was something wrong with
the coconut cake this year.
There was coconut cake issues.
I think there was.
Oh no, that's not good.
The ingredients were mislabeled
or something and somebody ate
it.
They shouldn't have eaten it or
something.
I did not know there were
coconut in this coconut cake.
Right.
Sorry about that booty booty.
I get instant, instant diarrhea.
You know how I feel about
diarrhea.
Give him a Bing bong.
Bing bong there you.
Go my buttons got a little
messed up there first.
That's OK, all right, a shark
goes for dinner.
Authorities have indefinitely
suspended a search for a 55 year
old swimmer Erica Fox, who went
missing Sunday while swimming
near Lovers Point in Pacific
Grove, CA, officials announced
Monday evening.
For a long, Fox for a long time.
Fox, a long time swimmer and
triathlete, was a Co founder of
the Kelp Crawlers swimming group
which he helped establish nearly
20 years ago, according to
members of the group Excuse Me
and reporting by Monterey County
Weekly.
Pacific Grove police said Fox
was swimming with the group
during its regular Sunday
morning outing.
Investigators said the swimmers
were entered the water as usual,
but around noon, a witness on
shore reported seeing a large
splash offshore.
Police said the site caused
concern among the group,
prompting swimmers to hadn't
gonna cough to head back to
shore out of fear it may have
been a shark encounter.
Everyone returned safely except
Fox.
According to the US Coast Guard.
The first report came from a
driver stopped at a nearby
intersection who said he saw a
shark breach the water with what
appeared to be a human body in
its mouth before submerging and
not resurfacing.
A second witness, a member of
the swim group, then conducted A
headcount and realized Fox was
missing 1. 2.
Fox was described as having blue
eyes, wearing a red bathing suit
and a yellow swim cap.
Search crews from multiple
agencies including the Coast
Guard, Pacific Grove Police,
Monterey Fire, Seaside and
California Fire searched for
more than 15 hours, covering
over 84 square nautical miles
using boats, drones and
helicopters for suspending
active operations.
Coast Guard extends his deepest
condolences to the family,
friends and loved ones affected
by the tragic incident, said
Captain Jordan Balduzzi.
Fox's father, James Fox, told
NBC News the swimming was his
daughter's passion.
She was doing something
yesterday as she really loved.
He said local beaches remain
closed.
The authorities continue to
investigate circumstances
surrounding the disappearance.
So how old was she?
She was 55.
She was an older lady.
I'm 54, Michael.
You're an older man.
She'd been doing this for 30
years.
She helped start this group. 25
years.
That's a.
Pretty good run.
Yeah, I pulled this 'cause I
thought it'd be interesting to
talk to Boots about what would
he do if he saw a shark.
Oh, you wanna ask similar to the
bear?
Ask me about shark.
Go ahead.
OK, you're out in the water,
boots and you see a shark, do
you?
What do you do?
I drowned person next to me so
shark eat it.
I you know how I feel about
dying.
I must live forever.
Yes, must boots.
I take care of my body.
Boot, survival, but all all
among everything else.
With Reese's Cup, I like Reese's
Cup.
OK, so.
She's wearing red and yellow.
I mean, it kind of draws the
attention of the shark.
Does it?
Brighter colors, Yes, they.
Do then I put I swim with
someone who has bright on.
Oh, you swim with somebody else
that has brighter colors?
Yeah, I do.
That's what I do.
And I make sure that they're in
front of me and behind me.
At all, both both front and
back.
Cover both sides.
Always cover both sides.
Very smart, Very smart.
Boots, you are.
You're very smart.
Very smart guy, very smart
boots.
Yeah, that's that's a that's a
great tactic.
You know some bright colors
around you.
I.
Mean they haven't even found.
Pieces probably ate the whole
person.
It had to be a hell of a shark.
It had to be a big shark.
I mean, if, OK, a big shark
grabs her and takes her down,
they bite off chunks and then
come back and get more chunks
and then come back, you know,
and then everybody's eating the
chunks.
Is that how that works?
Yeah, it's not like a, you know,
like a alligator.
Crocodile doesn't take you down
and shove you somewhere till you
get all bloated and soft.
They'd taken pieces.
You would think something would
float up a wristwatch or a hand
or something.
And where?
Where did this take place?
Off the coast of California at
Lovers Point.
Well.
It's a terrible way to go.
I'm sure.
Because I mean, you're either
going to die from blood loss or
drowning.
It's going to be one of the I.
Think that you go you just like
after the first bite, you're in
shock.
In shock and then you just go
from there.
Yeah, you don't even know what's
going on at that point.
Terrible.
It has to be extremely painful.
Reminds me of the one of the
James Bond movies.
Peace out, Hunk.
Hunk of fish.
Piece of hunk.
Piece of hunk is a hunk.
Piece of chunk.
They should take a big chunk.
Chunky ice cream.
What was that?
I don't remember the name in the
movie.
Not a board.
Ace Ventura.
No, it was the guy from the the
blonde guy who died in the car
accident.
Vin Diesel's buddy.
Paul Walker.
Paul Walker.
He did 2 movies where he was a
treasure hunter. 2 movies.
There was a sequel.
There was a sequel and the
sequel is where the girl, Nope,
the first first one, yeah, this
girl got that big, got half her
thigh ripped by a shark.
Really.
In the movie, but they did show
it, it was quite graphic.
OK, well, well, this is a a very
sad piece of news, and you're
right, Boots would do anything
that he could.
Save himself first.
Yeah, because the money makers
needs to survive and thrive.
Oh I mean I didn't pull the
story, I just saw it briefly,
but Trump is signing a bill
where after January 1st you have
to pay taxes on money you lose.
It's gambling.
Gambling.
Losses.
Yeah, gambling losses.
You can't write them off or
something.
I guess you used to be able to
write them off.
You can't anymore, so you pay
taxes.
I only read the headline, I
didn't read the whole article.
I mean, that's interesting.
Like how about we go back to
making it illegal?
Gambling.
No, no, it's fine.
It's fine now.
It's fine.
It's fine for the Indians.
The Indians get the gambling.
Not anymore, buddy.
Sure they do.
They're they're part of it, but
they're not the only ones.
Who else gets Saddamish?
How about Las Vegas have?
You been?
Oh, well, that's Vegas.
Vegas has always had gambling.
OK.
Sports betting and stuff, it's
always been legal there, but now
it's legal everywhere else.
Yeah, well.
Now you can you can use except
for the state of Florida, but in
a lot of states you can use
their apps and stuff to bet
where wherever you are.
Oh yeah, nice.
Why am I sweating?
Because your fever is breaking.
Again, Yeah, I never actually
had a fever.
No.
Nope.
I like that you said that you
had Zika and then Mitch Smith,
it's like you really have Zika.
Yeah, nobody, Nobody I always
call cold Zika.
Yeah, like keep up, Mitch.
God.
I had this nice picture that I
did of me in the hospital.
I AI D me in the hospital.
I thought it looks way too real.
People are going to think I'm in
the house.
Oh my God.
Oh, my God, he's dying.
All right, now on the Cigar
News.
Cigar news, Michael.
OK.
Just make sure you're on board.
Yes, thank you.
You.
Have a video for us?
I do have a video, it's more of
a photo.
Yeah, I don't want it.
No, yeah.
You're just going to yell at me,
by the way, how I put it up.
But I want you to do it right.
I do do it right?
No you don't.
Yes I do.
The last two videos you did
wrong.
I didn't.
Yes, you did.
I didn't.
You need to give it to me
without the black blocks on the
top and the bottom because that
makes you have to make it bigger
and then it covers our faces.
You can just crop it yourself.
No, it won't let me.
Yes, it will, you know.
Yes it will dude.
All right, now on the Cigar
news.
On what planet are you not
permitted to crop it?
On the non crop planet.
No, I give you the video.
You can crop the video on your
own.
Phone.
No, it won't let me.
Yes it will.
No, it's a format you send it
in.
Oh my God, that's not true.
Please pardon us for a moment
while we have a squabble.
Go ahead.
Mike is right.
You're stupid.
Bummer.
Thank you very much.
And I never invite you to your
my Christmas party 'cause you're
me.
I don't like you.
You treat me like poop.
That's right man, you stick up
for yourself.
That's right, you stick up for
yourself.
And we're going to make great
cigar with Skip and you're going
to sell it for us.
Good, you tell him.
You tell him, right?
You tell him $12.00.
You tell him cost 12 dollars
$12.00.
Sell it at the shop $12.00.
You're right, I do whatever I
want and it's smart.
Nobody makes any money but Skip
we.
Call it what do we call it?
Boots's business What?
Boots's business.
That's the name of the cigars.
Boots's business.
That's right.
I like that.
Industry standard.
That's it.
Can't.
Can't use that.
Boots's industry standard.
Can't use it.
Boots standard.
The boots standard.
Nobody has boots.
Never Christmas party for you.
That's right, you tell.
Them Hey Poshik didn't have a
Christmas party.
Are we supposed to?
Why didn't we?
Why now?
Where's the party?
We're so we pay you now We're
we're even poorer than we were
last year.
Last year you paid me too, just
not for a full year.
Yeah.
Now we've had a full year under
our belt.
It's a net negative operation
and we have to pay tax on our
losses now apparently it.
Wasn't a gamble.
Do you talking about the photo?
What are we doing here?
Sure I was.
I could do that.
I was doing that and you got
into the boots berating me.
Well, that was just Boots.
I was just letting Boots talk.
Oh, customer came in today.
Yeah, into the job.
He goes, hey, I see you on the
podcast.
I'm like, Oh yeah.
Do you know who I am?
He goes, I like you, you make me
laugh.
I go, oh, thank you very.
Much You make a lot of people
laugh.
This is awkward.
And that's, that's usually how
it is for you.
When you meet somebody in
public, you're like, oh God.
They go, oh, you're not.
You're the opposite of who you
are on this podcast.
Not at all.
No, no, no, no.
All right, so I.
Just never know what to say.
I go thank you.
I'm glad you enjoyed the show.
Thanks for watching.
So my boy Big Willy, Big Willy,
do you know who Big Willy is?
I know Big Willy, he's my
friend.
Yeah, from Drew State.
Yep.
He did a picture of of him and
his daughter and I just sent it
to you and it's like and it's
and it said something like 100
days of flying and all this
other stuff.
I'll tell you what it says.
Hold on.
Oh it's going too fast.
Survived 110 nights in hotels,
roughly 30,000 plus miles
driving, 100 in store events and
a few flights.
Yet she gets the best of me and
it's a picture of him and his
daughter.
It's super cute.
And then Justin Andrews in his
infinite wisdom.
You say something cocky.
Right.
I'm right there with you, big
dog.
Merry Christmas.
And he shows a picture of that.
He's Titanium Elite and he spent
106 nights out in hotels this
year.
So I wrote, wow, I had to make
it about you on this post.
I mean like.
Dude, it's about him and his
daughter.
What's about how many nights he
spent on the road?
Yeah, it's like, hey, man, you
know, like you're a great dad,
right?
You know, just I did.
I stayed.
I stayed out a. 100 out too.
I stayed out.
Too I I stayed out I have no
kids but I stayed out too 106
and I like yay bro.
There are a lot of reps regaling
their year at the moment with
how many nights out in that kind
of stuff.
Because it's hard, man.
They.
It's hard, trust me, I'm doing.
It they work, they're you.
Kind I don't have to do as bad
as they do.
They're temporary, you know, You
do some of it.
I I don't, I'm not as much on
the road as the average.
Rep No, not, not by a long shot,
right?
But, you know, you know, kudos
to these guys.
They it's, it's, it's hard.
It's a lot of hard work and it's
a lot, a long times away from
your family and stuff.
And like, he's got a a little
daughter and it's crazy because
like, I'm see, I just saw a
picture of her and I'm like, I
remember when she was this big,
you know, and now she's like a
daughter.
Like she's a person.
Yeah.
You know, she's she's yeah,
she's a person, right.
Like there's, you know,
interactions and stuff and like
you don't want to miss out on
any of that stuff as a dad, you
know, So he's just kind of
expressing that.
And then, of course, Justin
Andrews got to go.
I'm right there with you big
dog.
Even though I zoom meeting a lot
of people but.
Don't answer the phone.
Yeah, so Justin, I love you
buddy, but.
Call Santa and ask him to fire
Jack again.
Yeah, but do better man.
Do better just.
Do better, be a better person.
Just just acknowledge one of the
hardest workers come on in the
industry.
Willie's been around for a long
time.
Yeah, yeah, man.
Good for you, Willie.
Good job buddy.
Keep doing great, Father.
You are.
You're a good one.
Of the real ones, you.
Are a real one.
OK, so that's my video and I
sent it to you so you can clip
it directly beneath me.
There's no room.
Right here.
Look at the screen.
There's no.
Room, you're going to fix it?
I don't care.
Let it eclipse my face a little
bit.
I don't care.
Oh, so we can eclipse our faces?
Fine, I don't care.
It needs to be in the middle of
the shot.
Oh, all right, if we can eclipse
our faces.
I'd much rather eclipse my face
and then I can say to you, OK
now I need you to make it
smaller.
Then it's not be in the video at
all.
Eclipse your face.
You're in Eclipse.
You don't eclipse his face.
He's a good person.
You show, you show.
Eclipse your face like nobody's
business.
You show Hustler's face.
No, no eclipse it like Bing Bong
like he asked for it personally.
Bing bong.
All right, Fox and Chai Molly
goes on sale.
Foxy Fox.
Yeah.
Foxy Chai Molly goes on sale.
You know we miss an opportunity
with these days.
Chimole.
Chimole.
Chimole.
How do you say it?
Is it chimole or chimole?
This is the the.
Chinese thing, We missed an
opportunity here.
We were so close.
We were, and Greg said no.
Oh yeah.
Chi Molly cigar, new Chinese
themed cigar brand and fox cigar
Phoenix retailer have worked
together on a new release.
The new fox E Chi Molly is a six
552 Toro.
The company refers to it as a
robusto E with the E standing
four extra that uses an
Ecuadoran havano 99 wrapper over
Nicaraguan binder and fillers
from the Dominican Republic and
Nicaragua.
Chi Molly cigars have been have
and now excuse me.
Chi Molly cigars are made at the
MI Havana factory in Nicaragua.
Eat cigars and MSRP of $16.00.
Production is limited to 500
boxes and 20 cigars.
Chi Molly says it's cigar has
been blended in the old world
style.
Our collaboration with Fox Cigar
comes from a shared belief in
building brands with characters
and care, said Zhu Fang Weng,
founder of Chime Molly, in a
press release.
This project represents more
than a cigar.
It's the meeting of two worlds
that value authenticity, texture
and tradition.
I am the number one fan on the
Fox Cigar Facebook page.
Are you?
Oh yes, very nice.
Wow.
The cigar is marked as a Fox
Cigar exclusive.
The store is also offering the
cigar for wholesale orders.
Already, two stores in
California are selling a cigar,
and the companies say they're
willing to offer the Fox Chime
Molly for international
distribution.
Fox Cigar stands for the
distinctive identity of the new
way to cigar, of the new way to
cigar, with a genuine dedication
to the customer experience and
quality.
This is why we've been
successful with Chime Molly
since launching together at the
2025 PCA, said Mitchell Fox,
founder of Fox Cigars, in a
press release.
The Fox Chime Molly debuted on
Thursday, December 18th.
OK, so we tried these.
I tried these cigars at the show
and I thought that they were
really good.
They were good.
Yeah, I had one.
And then they sent us some.
Yeah.
Oh, that's one.
I had one.
They sent us some to retry and I
kind of had mixed feelings about
it.
I didn't love it, I didn't hate
it, but you know, I was like,
OK, this doesn't feel like the
same cigar.
So the problem is that the only
way that they've been able to
get in touch with me is like via
e-mail.
Right.
Yeah, and they're hard to get a
hold of.
Yeah, so, well, I mean, they'll
respond to my emails, but the
problem is that I'm hard to get
a hold of via e-mail, right?
If I'm not dealing with customer
service or retailer retailing
partners or, you know, this
thing that we do now everyday,
'cause we're psychopaths.
It's difficult to to.
Maybe WhatsApp?
They're probably on WhatsApp
that's in China.
I.
Don't know.
So does it feel like they're
reinventing anything?
It's kind of my point.
Well.
It's just a new cigar.
Yeah, but you know, they're
talking about new world new.
World the old world way.
I'm not exactly sure what that.
Means so like the old world way,
the only thing they really can
kind of reference I think at
that point is just kind of N2
baro rolling, right?
They're making it with their
feet.
They're making it with their
feet, allegedly.
Allegedly feet rolling.
Allegedly foot rolling just one
foot.
So nothing's really very.
I mean and pedestrious toes.
I'd like to hear more as to
what's being.
What is Old World style
invented?
Please let us know what this old
world style is.
I wish them the best.
I hope that it starts to work
out.
I'm.
Congratulations, we may carry.
We may carry this brand in the
future.
It's.
Just we may carry the brand in
the future.
I just haven't figured it out
yet.
He hasn't figured it out yet.
You you don't need to repeat
him.
Stop being.
Need to repeat.
Not only you not come Christmas
party, you not come to
Thanksgiving either.
New Year's party either.
No more New Year.
Yeah, I got invited to his house
one year for Thanksgiving too.
You, you got it.
I did invite you for
Thanksgiving.
Yeah, one time.
No more time, no more Turkey.
No, he eats all the Turkey.
You're not allowed to eat the
Turkey.
I like the Turkey.
Good for you, make me sleep.
Sleepy.
Make me sleep.
Take a nap.
The tryptophan makes him go
sleevy sleepy.
This keeps me out of ocean from
shark.
And from the bears?
Keeps me out of ocean from bear
too.
Right Ocean from Bear too, yes.
OK.
All right, the federal court
denies preliminary injunction
requests in California UTL case,
they struck out again.
Though, well, they, there was a
time to submit things that you
can submit comments or whatever
and they had to read them all
out loud, I think, or something
like that.
Andrew over at Small Batch was
he was so kind to give me like
the Intel as far as what to do
and submit.
Oh, 'cause he's in California?
What, because he's in
California?
Yeah.
And I, I submitted.
Did you?
Yeah.
Did they read yours?
I have no idea.
I didn't watch.
You know You're a hot mess.
I'm starting to drag because the
illness is is starting to win.
Have a have a Red Bull or.
Something the cigar industry has
once again lost a legal battle
as part of its lawsuit against
California's unflavored tobacco
list law.
That's what it says, right?
An actual list that will show
the products the state has
determined are not flavored and
legal to sell in California.
Yesterday, Judge Monica Ramirez
Almadini Monica Ramirez Almadini
Yep of the US District Court for
the Center Central District of
California denied the
plaintiff's request for
preliminary injunction and Rocky
Patel Premium Cigars, Inc ET al
Abunta.
Oh, very nice.
That's.
What it Says Inc ET Alva Bonta.
The case was filed in October,
ahead of the state's UTL
deadlines by 77 family owned
cigar companies that are board
members of the Cigar Rights of
America, the CRA itself and the
Premium Cigar Association.
They are challenging the UTL's
rules as they apply to premium
cigars, which more or less
started less than a week after
the federal lawsuit was filed.
Ramirez Almendini quickly tossed
one part of the lawsuit, finding
the challenges under the
California Administrative
Procedures Act needed to be made
in state court, not federal
court.
A second lawsuit was filed in
the state court to deal with
those claims.
And then rejected.
And then rejected.
But on the bright side, Mr.
Aberski got a brand new chair
for Christmas from his staff.
That's very beautiful.
Make sure you throw that in
here.
He got a new chair.
A clip of that.
Got a beautiful new chair?
That's cool, now he can sit
comfy.
Maybe it raises a little higher
because, you know, like a little
booster.
Maybe let's get the little.
Well, I know that we like to
make jokes, but the reality is
that it doesn't make sense to go
tracking against unflavored
flavored cigars by labeling
everything that's traditional.
Like can't.
They just say these are
flavored.
Can they just make that full
list?
Wouldn't that make more sense?
Make more lists of the things we
don't.
You're having to prove a
negative.
Right.
Not only that, but.
These are not flavored.
But the list of traditional
cigars is so much more vast.
Well, that's the way they get
the more money.
Than the list of infused cigars.
They get the more money that
way, but The thing is, they
can't.
Nobody's going to pay to have
their name put on the list.
You must pay $300 to have your
name added to the list.
Just nobody's going to pay that.
Hire a guy to identify what the
flavored infused cigars on.
You can smoke all the flavored
stuff.
This is infused.
Maybe this stuff that has the
name infused environment, Yeah.
Or ACID.
What you should do is just.
Anything made by Drew Stein
just.
Just no, Just no.
Sorry.
Make everything required that
has some type of infusion.
It's a state that it's infused.
There you go.
In order to be in the state of
Florida.
Florida in the state of
California.
Well, they don't want it in the
state.
Right.
So if it doesn't state it, if it
doesn't state infused or flavour
infused or flavoured or
whatever, then it should be
fine.
Now if a manufacturer's is fine
is found circumventing that,
then they could find them or
whatever the case.
May be so my great bubble gum
flavoured cigar, not great
bubble gum.
Correct.
I just say it's not.
Well, if you did that and they
caught you, then you'd be in
trouble.
This is not the sick guy you're
looking.
For oh, there's more of that
more very Star Wars theme today,
huh?
Very Star Wars thing.
Well, now you mentioned the the
Diddy thing came out again and I
didn't, we didn't talk.
About that, he made it 37
minutes today.
Boots forgot to.
Tell you Diddy, I didn't.
I haven't watched the episode
yet, but very excited about it.
Very excited.
Very good things.
Heard good things $0.50 Very
smart.
The people whose Disney Disney
thing we had they cancelled it
went to log into Disney the
other day been to log into
Disney the other day said would
you like to re up your
subscription or like.
Oh damn.
No, their kids probably aged
out.
I mean, we've had it for a long
time.
If that's not a nephew, right?
Like, you know what I know
we're?
They don't even remember we have
it, probably.
You should text them or call
them.
It was some teacher, one of the
schools Adrian worked at in the
past.
You should be like hey man, just
want to check in on you just.
Want to check in how you doing?
How's that Disney like?
Yeah, so strange.
Barely you changed the password.
This is kind of odd, but wasn't
wasn't able to lock in lock in
here.
To go watch the new Star Wars
thing and it wasn't that I can't
get in.
I had no access to your Disney
Plus.
I know you gave us it was like
10 years ago, but what's going
on with that?
Is there?
I think maybe we can get the new
one out.
What's up?
We can get the update on that
that'd.
Be great I hit yes when it said
reinstate subscription so if you
could update that credit card on
file.
Hey just a random question,
what's the latest expiration on
your credit card?
4 digits?
You don't have to tell me
anything else but I just need it
for a reference.
Hope things are well.
Hope things are going well for
you and your family.
Merry Christmas.
So.
What are you trying to watch on
Disney?
I thought there might have been
something new out, I don't know,
I was just bored looking for
something new to watch.
Oh, you know what's on Max that
I just watched?
So Max, I don't have that either
anymore.
No, it's HBO Max.
Sir.
Yeah, I don't have that either.
It's 1 battle after another.
What is that?
It's a Leonardo DiCaprio movie.
Oh, gotcha.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
Interesting little weird, little
wild.
The guy from King of Queens did
a new movie on Prime.
It's pretty good.
Guns drawn or something like
that, it's called.
Oh yeah, that's pretty good.
All right, La Vega announces a
new LA Trilogia limited edition.
La Trilogia.
La Trilogia not exactly what it
says.
That's exactly what it says.
Limited edition In early
February, LA Vegas Cigar Company
Limited Series will be getting
its third release, A Barber
pulled cigar called.
Never been done before.
Called la trilogia, the Italian
word for trilogy.
Pretty close, just like in the
movies.
I'm trying to keep the theme and
the trilogy seems like very
fitting to name this particular
release, said Erin Pauletta,
founder of Las Vegas Cigar
Company and press release.
The cigar is a 6 by 50 Toro that
uses a 5 year old Ecuadorian
Connecticut seed leaf and a
three-year old Mexican San
Andreas leaf.
To create the Barber pole
design, underneath them is a
Dominican Orlo binder that has
been aged for three years, while
the filler contains Dominican
Seco and Lajero, Nicaraguan
Tobacco and Pennsylvania
broadly, all of which have been
aged between three and five
years. 3 and 500.
Years.
The pricing is set at 1499 per
cigar and 149 nine for a box of
10 cigars.
The release is limited to 200
boxes of 10 cigars.
A total run of 2000 sticks carry
the One add five.
The new cigars will be released
to all retailers on February
4th, 2026, with the date paying
homage to the day Aaron founded
his band when he was a resident
of Las Vegas.
He has started a band.
We're getting the band back
together.
However, when will be available?
God.
It will be available for two
weeks prior to that at the LA
Vega Lounge and LA Vegas Cigar
Company headquarters in Mercer,
PA, as well as at the very first
La Vega Legacy Room and Living
My Best Cigar Life Cigar Lounge
in Moundsville, WV.
The company calls it one of the
most interesting creations,
having been worked on in the
early 2025.
So wait, so he's releasing it on
a certain date that he started
the band?
Unless you're in West Virginia
or Pennsylvania, then you can
buy it two weeks earlier.
And that had nothing to do with
the anniversary of his band.
That's correct.
I want to It's going to be in 47
states.
It's going to be proper, but the
other 3.
The other three you got to wait
till the date of.
It's going to be earlier.
I thought it was earlier.
I don't know, I'm so confused.
Me too.
In early 2025 with the team at
the Tablical era Las Lavas
factory in Dominican Republic.
While Las Lavas produces the
company's core line, it is the
first time that the factory will
produce a limited series
release.
Why is that special?
They make, they make, they make
the core line, but we're
announcing the first time
they're making a limited
limited.
Yay limited.
Limited would be easier.
You make it, you want it done.
Well, that's not entirely true.
I mean, if they don't have
specific tobacco that they have
to acquire to make the cigar,
then, you know, then it's a
bigger deal.
And and if the guy's like, hey,
I want to do this plan and
here's my concepts and like,
well, we have to go find these
things that could make it a
bigger deal.
How does that work?
Now when you go to blend a
cigar, is it they go look, this
is what we got, you blend out of
this, come look, this is what we
have.
Or does he come in and go?
I have a list of things on my
piece of paper I would like to
use.
Can you go find it?
I mean, the reality is it
depends.
Thank you for this precise
answer.
No, because I will tell you a
lot of times I like to try my
best and work with what the
factory has.
Right.
OK, let's say you for example.
OK, let's say me.
You go down to make a new, you
go see Uncle Skip and I need to
make a new cigar, OK, He goes,
OK, I'll make it for you because
you're stupid.
And then you go, no, no, I
really need to blend it.
And then it takes 10 minutes to
talk him into letting you blend
it.
I may have that ability with
skip.
It may take longer than 10
minutes, but I'm I'm a rare
breed, I'm trusted and I'm in a
circle.
No, no, I understand that, yes.
So you go down and he goes,
here's all my pre production
stuff.
You can just go through the
bodega and pick out a handful of
things.
I got to be honest, that's not
how we've done things, ever.
I got this little there, it's
gone.
I can't see you.
I tell you it actually you.
Know the first like special kind
of cigar that I made yes so like
the first two cigars we made
were based off the stuff they
had in the factory a bottle of
broadleaf and but then I wanted
to make something cool and
special and I wanted to work
with Pennsylvania broadleaf and
you.
Tell Uncle Skip I want to work
with Pennsylvania Broadleaf.
So how did you know to choose
that one?
At that time I, well, I mean, I
smoke a bunch of cigars.
Oh, OK.
So at that time, I said, hey,
you know, I really want to work
with, I want to try Pennsylvania
broadleaf.
And I was contemplating it as a
binder.
And he's like, OK, well, we'll
have to go get some of that.
So we had none.
Yeah, so he went to a JS
factory.
Went down the street to the 711.
No, you go, what you do is you,
you go to other factories that
may have it or, or you trade
with them or you know, like they
if if they have pre industry
stuff and they have, let's say
they have a tobacco that they
don't like or they didn't, it
didn't ferment the way that they
wanted it to or something like
that.
They may offer it to somebody
else and say, Hey, we have, you
know, whatever.
This crap that didn't work out
for us.
It's not crap, it's just it
didn't fit for what they were
trying to do or it didn't
ferment the way they thought it
was going to ferment or
whatever.
So you know, or maybe they
thought it was wrapper and it
fermented into a binder or
something in this.
How does that work?
Just through the fermentation
processes, you know, some
things, some things just age
differently.
You know, they, I mean, they
Alex or Skip would be able to
get a little more into detail as
far as that's concerned.
But like more often than not, if
you know, you buy something
that's not completed and you
think it's wrapper and then as
you kind of it goes through the
process of fermentation, it
starts to thin or whatever.
And you're like, this isn't
going to be wrapper.
This isn't going to be good
enough.
So then maybe you'd offer it as
binder to somebody else because
you have no use for it or
something like that.
So for me, like the first, the
first time I wanted to do
something special, I asked, I
said, hey, I really want to, I
really want to do something with
Pennsylvania prod leaf.
So they went and and got.
Yeah, go find some.
At that point, it was a small
run.
I was only making like 100
cigars.
It was for the birth of justice,
so that was no big deal, you
know?
Jerry, whatever.
Yeah, go grab some of that stuff
for you, right?
Because I'm young, I'm young,
I'm still in a good mood.
No, man, he's never in a good
mood. 15 years ago it.
Was every then?
Actually, no, he's probably
happier then.
Yeah, he's happier then.
No, come on, things were.
Good things are great.
So his heart bypass surgery,
yeah.
It's just a look.
It's a tough industry, man.
It's a touch me, I know.
And if you're in the thick of
it, it's a tough industry on
this side.
It's an even tougher industry on
that side, right?
So, so he went and got some and
we blended a cigar for that.
And that's what that you Fast
forward 10 years, right?
And then Pennsylvania Broadleaf
was in their rotation at that
point.
You know, they had done some of
the Fable stuff and you know,
when I decided to make the
Connecticut, they had access to
it at that point.
We have some now, yes.
Would you like some now?
That's kind of, interestingly
enough, how it was like, well,
I'd like to do this right, Make
it core.
Yes, you shall.
But like a lot of other times
when I'm looking to make an LE
or something like that or
something different, I do like
to start with, well, what do you
have?
What's?
What's if it's different?
Well.
No, not.
I mean, maybe, maybe what do you
have that's different sometimes,
but sometimes it's what do you
have you're not using.
Oh.
Because.
Give you a deal?
No, I no deal.
No deal, but like, the reality
is that it's better for the
factory if I make a cigar out of
it.
Sure.
Then it just sits there and
rots.
No then for them to sell it pre
industry because pre industry
it's worth only you know the.
Oh, it's worth more as a cigar,
of course.
So when you work with your
friends and you want your
friends to succeed, you always
try and build a scenario that's
best.
How does everybody work out the
best, right?
Yeah.
And like sometimes, sometimes it
doesn't work out.
Sometimes one somebody gets the
raw end of the deal.
It's it just, it's not perfect,
but you know it, it could
happen.
And when it happens, as long as
you know that everybody's
intentions were good, you figure
out how to navigate through it
one way or the other.
And everyone happy.
The objective is everybody wins.
Why do you keep looking over
there?
I'm not.
What happens is I look at the
screen to confirm that.
Oh, who's on?
Who's off?
Yeah.
So 'cause it's like sometimes
I'm screwing that up, and then
usually when I think I do this,
yeah, yeah, I start.
Looking I thought you're looking
for a bug.
No bug.
So that's how that works for for
us, it's generally stuff that's
available unless there's
something distinct that I wanted
to work for.
And I don't know at this point
if I would bother them with that
unless I was really hell bent on
something, say.
Hey, he really wanted to do.
Let's go and source.
Can we go and source this so?
All right, you guys ready?
We got a mini episode of What's
the Score Now?
Yeah.
You in boots?
Ready.
What's the score?
What's the score?
Today's cigars from December
25th, 2025 Christmas Day Patrick
Lagreed altodes USA cigars
Nicaragua reviews Trinidad ex
Tommy Bahama island collection
harbor.
Which you probably can't get
anymore because the factory's
closed, allegedly.
Allegedly, no.
It's really closed.
I just like to say allegedly.
Oh cover, cover all bases.
Got you.
OK.
Allegedly, it's really close.
All right, boots, do you want to
go first?
Yes, I go 85.
It's a good number.
Good number, Boots.
Good start.
Good start, said Brooks.
Brooks No, It's Patrick.
It's Patrick.
Patrick.
Patrick.
Patrick.
I'll 88.
I'll go 88.
All right to Trinidad X Tommy
Bahama island collection harbor
from Nicaragua factory tapical
era AJ Fernandez cigars.
They can still get this rappers
Nicaraguan binders Nicaraguan
fillers Nicaraguan length of
five inches by 52.
It's round, it sells for 1650.
Release date was October 4th and
they smoked 3 cigars.
OK boots, where you at on this?
Are you OK, Palmer?
You're very sick.
Yeah, I'm winding down.
Is it cuz you know, come to
Christmas party?
No.
Are you sure?
Yeah, I'm perfectly all right.
Now, coming to your Christmas
parties.
Okay cuz I might consider
inviting you in 20-30.
Nope, I'm good.
Thank you.
OK.
Appreciate the offer. 85. 85
I'm.
Going to stick 8087, did I say?
It you said 80, I don't mind
what I'm.
Going to go 87.
All right, first clue.
The Trinidad X Tommy Bahama
Island Collection Harbor stands
out visually with well matched
fonts and band colors that
complement the well tanned
wrapper, creating a refined
presentation that feels polished
without being overdone.
So basically it looks pretty.
It's a pretty cigar.
It's a beautiful cigar.
It's the greatest cigar I ever
made.
Most beautiful cigar ever.
Most beautiful cigar in the
factory that no longer exists
allegedly boots what?
Do you got 84 pretty bad 84?
OK.
Is he going down?
Yeah, I go down.
It's pretty.
I don't like pretty.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, Dominican.
It's not Dominican.
It's a factory open in
Nicaragua.
Yeah, it's made at the AJ
factory.
You just read that?
We don't listen to you, you know
that.
He's you're right.
We don't listen.
Well, they don't listen.
OK, so then I got to go up to
87.
You can't change your score.
You said 85 already.
OK, fine. 85 was the 85 so mean?
Next time around, you maybe,
maybe I.
Change. 89. #2 flavor
progression is steady and
engaging, moving from dry toast
and pepper into creaminess and
subtle citrus accents with solid
retro Hales and a consistent
medium profile that finishes
with better focus and balance in
the final third. 87 I got 87 ha
ha moved my number anyways.
OK, I'm going to stick it 89.
I think that's what I said last
time, 89.
While construction is generally
very good, there is a noticeable
cigar to cigar variation,
including an uneven burn early
on and differences in draw and
aroma that slightly disrupt
overall consistency.
Are we keeping you up, Palmer?
Yes, terribly so.
Almost done.
Almost done.
So you say, what'd you say?
Inconsistent.
The inconsistent burn between
cigars.
The flavor changes different
between the cigars.
One cigar is not the same as the
other cigar.
OK, 85.
OK, I'm going to go to 87.
The Trinidad Tommy Bahama Island
Collection Harbor is a cigar
that checks a lot of boxes to be
called a solid cigar.
The flavor is engaging and
balanced, while the construction
is solid and overall experience
is enjoyable.
I can't say I found any
disappointing spots in the three
cigars, setting a pretty high
floor for the line.
I also didn't find many of those
breakthrough moments where the
flavor really shines and carries
A blend into the next echelon.
If anything, the cigar reminds
me a bit of the Tama Bahama
restaurant.
Plenty of good options that will
satisfy, but nothing that's
pushing the culinary envelope.
I enjoyed the cigar and look
forward to smoking the next two
after the first one, something I
don't always get to say.
And after all three, I'd still
welcome the opportunity to light
up another one.
Mixed bag there.
Very mixed bag.
Yes, mixed bag of information
there.
OK, so boots, what do you got?
81.
Big drop there, big drop.
Yeah, you know, inconsistent.
Just OK, I think 81 and you
won't let me win because you're
in charge and you're making my
decision.
OK.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm going to say 80, 8585.
You're at 85, He's at 81.
Yeah, 88.
Oh, oh, you're smarter.
You're better than me.
You broke my streak.
Oh, it's ready.
Streak is over.
Streak over.
He was on a winning.
Streak just like that.
Sorry, but.
It's OK, It's OK.
I do.
We're very good before.
You DJ ING anywhere this weekend
boots you want to Oh, this comes
out.
This comes out Monday.
Doesn't matter.
Yeah, DJ at this German bar
downtown Sanford.
Lots of leather.
German Bar.
Lots of leather.
That big biker bar over there on
the side street?
Yes, they're called the Wet
Spot.
My favorite bar wet spot.
The wet spot, yes.
I'll build the wet spot.
I bet you will.
OK buddy, good for you man.
Not a boy.
How about you, Michael?
You doing anybody's podcast this
weekend?
Not to my knowledge, but hey,
you never.
Know you never know.
You never know.
You never know, buddy.
I don't know.
We may break down.
We may, may do a quick run here
to South Florida and do a little
family time.
So we'll see.
Oh, go see your mom.
No, she's up here.
I'm going to go down there, run,
run the other.
Direction, the other direction.
All right, it's been episode 437
at Cigar Hustler podcast.
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Yep, we'll see you tomorrow.
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