ACHP Episode 438 Bonnie Blue, Bruce Lee, What's Next!!
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Music.
And rowing.
Hello, welcome to episode 438 of
Cigar Hustler podcast.
Now on every weekday, it's
Tuesday, December 30th, 2025.
I'm Mike Palmer.
Here are today's stories.
Measles are back in the news.
Bruce Lee statue has been
returned to Bosnia.
A British adult film star is
being deported from Bali.
And in sports, the Buccaneers
fall to Miami but stay alive in
the NFC.
In cigar news, new limited
releases, milestone blends,
global shop openings, and a full
game of What's the Score?
All this and more on Episode
438.
But before we get started, with
me is boots.
I ate too much Christmas candy.
Hippelhauser in the engineering
booth.
Bing bong.
And then my Co host, the man who
claims it's always bulking
season.
Mikey, I don't feel good.
Stephen Kevitch.
Hi.
Hello, Michael.
Hi, thank you for having me.
You're welcome.
Oh, nose blow.
You gonna blow?
Blow enough.
I switched it.
I switched it.
All right, You have something to
say before we get into the show,
Michael.
So you.
Wanna get into chapterpod.com
first?
I didn't know when you wanna do
it.
You surprised me with this 30
seconds before we OK he.
Didn't have a.
Spot.
Hey Mikey, how do you get into
the chapter pod swag?
First of all, you wanna like and
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Now I have one SBC shirt left
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you.
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Now if it's gone, if somebody
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of those people will be the
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subscribe shirt that I haven't
even released yet.
But but but.
We haven't even seen yet.
We haven't even seen yet.
Well, you've seen it.
I have seen it boots and I
haven't seen it.
Or the beanies, yeah.
He was sick.
I wasn't going to ask about the
beanies.
I know I was sick.
I will.
I'll do it.
I got to take care of Ben, so
I'll do it.
And boots.
And Palmer.
But yeah, also.
Just so you know, tomorrow it's
going to be cold the rest of the
week.
Yeah, it's going to be cold.
Yeah, just saying it's.
Going to be like in the 30s.
Yeah, I like cold, cold.
Oh I love that.
Also, what I want to do with us
is I'd like to go through 5 top
10, top 25 people who've who've
released their cigars and I want
to rate them.
Right, we talked about that last
week.
Now I have started looking at
top 25 list.
There's not a lot of them out
yet because a lot of them are
not coming till the 1st of the
year.
Right now, if you guys, if you
viewers or or listeners want us
to consider reviewing somebody
in particular, mention their
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Oh, so a lot of a lot of fun and
exciting things going on here at
Cigar House Podcast.
A lot of a lot of things
happening when boots and I
aren't around.
Yeah, now new shirts, design
contest things and all sorts of
stuff.
Going no beanies.
No, I'm doing my best.
So no beanies.
Now to kind of get into what I
wanted to speak about.
Is oh, none of that is what you
wanted to talk.
About that was just extra.
No, that was all.
Shoot.
For the hip, All right, I
thought that was it.
I thought that was stuff.
We say a lot of things on this
show, yes, that's correct.
We're we're pretty open and
honest, yes.
That is correct.
We do a good job of telling, of
mentioning when somebody does
something great as well as when
they screw something up.
That's definitely correct.
That's definitely correct,
right?
Yes, I'm kind of nervous.
I don't know where it's.
Going This will be a surprise I.
Don't know what I said.
So you know.
I think I did change our posters
for the today's episode that
went up.
Yeah, because I realized I had
Mark Zuckerberg shaking hands
with Epstein, and I thought,
boy, I thought that might have
been bad.
Probably not a good one.
So yeah, I started thinking Mark
Zuckerberg, he might find it.
So I took all that.
Yeah, we don't need a cease and
desist from right.
Right, but go.
Ahead, that guy's got way too
much money.
He's he's eliminating a
neighborhood.
Well, he he was handing
headphones to Epstein and I, it
was funny when I made it, but
then I was thinking, today I'm
like, that's probably bad.
That's probably not a good one.
Not a good one.
Yeah.
So last week it was brought to
our attention that Alan Rubin.
I thought we were talking about.
This before well I wanted to
save this for the Patreon.
We're sorry.
But then you know what?
I had AI have a fever, so I'm
just going to go I'm going to go
hard on the paint on the show, a
little harder than normal, I
guess.
OK, so so Alan Rubin.
Yes.
Supposedly gets this job right
at this place.
Did he not get?
It is it fake Alan Rubin or real
Alan?
Rubin, it's fake.
Alan Rubin.
OK.
And we wanted to acknowledge
this guy, right?
We thought we were doing a good
thing.
Hey, congratulations.
Congratulations, we gave him a
yeah, a shout out on the show.
Yeah, yes.
And it turns out that we weren't
doing a good thing.
Apparently he called you but you
didn't answer because you're
working.
Well, I was sick.
It was Christmas Eve.
That's when I had the whatever
it is you have.
And I was laying there in bed
and then my phone rang.
I looked at it like I'm not in
the mood for this.
Right.
And well at that.
At that point we I hadn't even
come to my attention that we had
misstepped on release.
I did send him my cell phone
number after that and he has not
called.
Oh, OK, so.
Before you told me that that
that could have been a bad phone
call.
I didn't look like I was ducking
him.
I just didn't feel good that
day.
So I sent him my cell phone
number and he hasn't called.
OK, so so apparently this is
information that isn't supposed
to be out.
So let's talk about it.
Again in in the open.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, so don't talk about it,
but bring it up on the next show
We're.
Not really in the open.
I mean, we're here.
Well, it's kind of comical to
me.
It's just the three of us that
that people get upset when in
all reality we just do a good
job of holding people
accountable, right?
Right, we just find things out.
Yeah, and people are really
early apparently.
And people are delusional to
think that it's not going to
come out right, Right.
So, you know, and and they don't
hold themselves accountable.
And that's what I really find
extremely humorous about the
whole thing, because at the end
of the day, if I'm not supposed
to tell anybody, right, then
nobody would know if I didn't
tell anybody, right?
Right.
Right.
So how could you tell if nobody
knew?
If it's if it's supposed to be a
secret, you want to know how you
keep it a secret.
Don't tell anybody.
You don't tell anybody.
Especially us.
Wouldn't that make sense?
Not even us.
The the reality is, Well, yes,
look, I'm supposed to, I'm not
supposed to tell anybody about
it.
Like we have had conversations
where where you brought
something up to me and say, oh,
so and so and so and like, yeah,
I knew about that six months
ago.
And then you would say to me,
well, why don't you tell me
like, because I was told not to
tell anybody.
I'm not anybody.
It doesn't matter, I will keep
the secret.
Right.
So it's it's funny that he got
upset with us when in all
reality the person he should be
upset with is himself.
Because he he told somebody he.
Told others about it right, and
we caught wind, right?
Shouldn't be smoking cigars in a
cigar shop 'cause you're going
to tell everybody everything.
Listen, Coop gives us this Intel
all the time.
I don't know what to tell you.
He's he.
You know he.
Leaks.
It was definitely cool.
It was definitely.
Good.
Unfiltered, unbiased News 24
hours a day.
I don't.
Understand why he's upset.
Because the contract hasn't been
signed yet or something like
that.
But if it was supposed to be a
secret, then keep it a secret.
Tell nobody, don't tell anybody.
If you didn't tell anybody, then
it would have never came out.
But guess what?
You told people?
You told people, dude.
That's not, you know, sorry.
Do better next time.
Right.
Love you buddy, but hope you get
the congratulations and
congratulations because we
really do wish you the best, OK?
We just got a freeze warning
issued for our area.
Yeah, if we only had beanies.
Keep our heads warm tomorrow,
boots.
I'll have a beanie for me
tomorrow, you know.
You'll have a beanie tomorrow.
It'll be a great beanie.
You think coop has beanies?
Probably not.
Juicy.
He put out.
He put out a message the other
day that somebody took his
information without asking
permission or something.
No, yeah, I don't.
I don't think that day I used
any of his information.
I assumed it was us, but I don't
think I used any.
Well, but like, he's, he's a
news source.
He's a it's media, right?
Like if he posts something about
media and we cover it, what's?
Yeah, I mean, it's not the same
thing.
And as long as I don't use his
photos, which we don't use
photos anyway.
We're not releasing cigars of
the year right now are.
We I mean, normally you credit
the source right?
Unless you totally change
everything around.
With I've been trying to do more
of that, change everything
around.
Yeah, I mean the the Zen Chi
article that you did was
amazing.
Oh, thank you.
It's got a ton of views on
Instagram.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, probably all by the FBI.
Yeah, all by the FBI.
Oh good.
Maybe the FBI will call me.
Well, if they weren't before,
they are now because we released
information we weren't supposed.
Where did you get all that
information?
Call him, he obviously knows
where he is.
He knows too much.
Does he know where the beanies
are?
But does he know where the
beanies are?
OK.
All right, go ahead, get into it
now.
All right, now in the news,
measles are back in the news.
Newark, NJ.
A passenger to Newark Airport
may have exposed people to
measles.
This continues to happen, yeah.
This is spreading from it was
Iowa the other day, the first
case since like 1996 came up in
Iowa.
Now it's in New Jersey.
New Jersey's health department
says someone with the disease
passed through the airport on
February, December 19th.
The person was in terminals B&C
between 7:00 AM and 7:00 PM.
How can they?
I mean, still that's a big
window, but they know within two
terminals and a 12 hour window,
still a 12 hour window and two
terminals.
How do they?
And if they know that, how do
they not know who the person is?
Terminal B&C is huge.
Right, but it's not A&D.
They've narrowed it down to two
terminals in a 12 hour window.
Somebody had the measles that
was on one of those planes.
The health department hopes to
track down people who are likely
exposed.
Also suggest anyone anyone who
is not vaccinated to get the MMR
shot.
Measles symptoms include a high
fever, Nope.
A cough, Nope.
Runny nose.
Sounds like the flu.
Watery eyes.
That's your standard sick thing.
And a rash.
It usually appears between three
and five days after symptoms
begin, with red dots all over
your body.
I'm pretty sure I had my measles
shots.
Yeah, me too.
You don't know your mother
didn't like you.
Oh.
She still doesn't.
She might not have gotten to
your shots.
I'm not immunizing that one.
The rash usually.
Hopefully that one gets sick and
dots.
That's right, the rash usually
begins as flat red spots that
appear on the face and the
hairline and spread downward to
the neck, torso, arms, legs and
feet.
Take your shoes off.
Let's see your feet.
You.
Want to see my feet?
Let's see if you have measles.
No can.
You want me to take my pants off
too?
Nope.
No, it says nothing about the
groin area.
It's my tension area.
Tensions.
That's where all the measles,
yeah.
That's where they collect.
I'll show they're.
All right, they're all
clustered.
Yeah.
Oh.
God, all right, there's a Bruce
Lee statue who's been stolen,
but now it has been returned.
Who would do that?
What Chinese place did they get
stolen from?
Bosnia, OH.
They have Chinese places there.
That's why it's so funny.
A restored statue honoring the
late martial arts legend Bruce
Lee was returned to its rightful
place Wednesday in a Bosnian
town more than a year after it
was stolen, local media
reported.
The life-size bronze statue of
Kung Fu cinema icon in a
defensive position holding
nunchuck Kung Fu sticks was
originally unveiled in the park
and most star in 2005.
It had been vandalized several
times since.
Lee was chosen as a hero that
all the ethnic groups could
relate to in a town that remains
deeply divided among fierce
fighting between Bosnian Croats
and Bosnian Muslims during the
country's 1990s war.
The statue disappeared from the
park in March of 2024 but was
found a few days later cut into
several pieces for sale as scrap
metal.
Police found soon found the
perpetrator who had ripped the
statue from its pedestal, and he
received a 10 month jail
sentence earlier this year.
The theft sparked public outrage
in the southern town where the
statue became an attraction.
On Wednesday, the town's tourist
board head Elvira Kamalovic
stressed the importance of the
statue for most our residents as
a symbol of justice and peace.
Kamala.
Elvira with the No, not the same
Elvira.
With the black hair.
No, this is Bosnia and Elvira.
She has red hair.
She has red hair, yes, But Bruce
Lee is the sign of justice and
peace in Bosnia.
I can see that.
He has been returned once again
to his rightful home.
Is so OK Wait, hold on, I'm a
little confused.
Yes, where Bosnia is.
Yeah.
Is Bosnia in Russia or the
Middle East?
Russia.
OK.
Russian ish.
It's in that area.
Do this for a Mother of Russia.
So it's kind of ironic, yeah,
that Bruce Lee is in Russia.
Exactly, that's why it was a
funny story.
Why is it ironic?
Because he's from Hong Kong.
There's a statue.
When I saw it, I thought the
Hong Kong statue was stolen is
why I read the article.
Yeah, but I've seen that one.
Plazania is located southeastern
Europe on the Balkan Peninsula,
bordered by Croatia, Serbia and
Montenegro, with a small
coastline on the Adriatic Sea.
Right.
It's Russianisk.
It's not Middle East Russianisk.
Yes.
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, it's cold then.
He beat a whole bunch of
Russians in one of his movies.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I would imagine somewhere.
Yeah, I think there was a movie.
That beat up Bruce Lee.
He's the only guy that ever beat
Bruce Lee.
Well, he's not in Russia, he's
in Bosnia.
I mean the only guy that beat up
Chuck Norris.
Yeah, I was going to say this
about Bruce Lee.
Into the dragon or something?
Yeah, OK, Broke.
Both his arms and his leg.
And then he killed him.
And then he killed him.
I don't remember if he killed
him, but he did break both his
arms.
Well, now he's all Now he's all
over social media with the ball
that you strapped to your head
and you punch Chuck Norris, is
he?
Oh my God.
Yeah, I haven't seen that one.
You put a ball in your head.
It's a, it's like a strap and
it's got a string with a ball
and A and it's you've got to
punch it and however many times.
It's one step above the paddle
with the ball.
Yeah, now it's on your head.
Oh, if you miss, does it hit you
in the face?
Yes.
Yeah, that's that's, you know,
it signifies Chuck Norris
beating your ass.
How how much is this ball and
string?
To your head.
I never got that.
FAR three payments of 1999.
We'll give you a good deal.
This is in chapter pod.
Ball on head.
Comes with ball and head on the
store.
That that Mikey punches.
Yeah, it's attached to the
beanies.
Right.
No, not not all the bees.
Just not our bees.
So was the guy that took it, was
he a young kid or something like
that?
They didn't release his name for
his own protection.
Went to jail for 10 months.
Yeah, but he's out now and it
took a year to get the statue
back.
Hopefully he got out of jail
before they got the statue back.
Really.
Hopefully.
Well, they had to glue all the
pieces back together.
You.
Think he destroyed it?
He cut it into pieces.
He did.
Yeah, it's a lot easier on the
black market to sell pieces of
Bruce Lee than an entire Bruce
Lee.
They were podcasting.
Thank you and the code is. 0000.
Alright, what?
Oh, I was.
Going to say hopefully while
he's in jail he doesn't tell the
secret of who he is.
No, he wouldn't tell anybody.
What are you in for?
Not cutting up the Bruce Lee
statue.
Yeah, that wasn't me.
That's what we cut it up.
What?
So we did cut it.
Up.
Yes, he cut it up to sell the
scrap metal.
He wanted the money.
It's a poorer city.
Yeah, that thing is worth a lot
of.
More torn Bosnia.
War-torn Bosnia.
Yeah, holes in buildings and
stuff.
Really.
Yeah, OK.
It's like Poland during World
War 2.
Oh, really?
He said Russian esque.
Yes, it is in the Russian area.
By the way, somebody commented
on your Rudolph story that you
got it completely wrong.
I thought they said, now tell us
someone about Santa and
Coca-Cola.
What did I get it?
How did I get it wrong?
What part of it was wrong?
I'd have to.
It might have been Sears instead
of Woolworths.
I don't remember.
Yeah, you got the whole thing
wrong.
Not the whole thing.
Yeah, maybe I got the originator
room 'cause I think I read
afterwards it was Sears.
You got the originated room,
that's for sure.
Oh all right, moving on.
Thanks for the correction.
British porn star to be deported
from Bali after a small fine.
What?
A British porn star was deported
from Bali and they charge her a
little bit of money.
OK.
British adult film star Bonnie
Blue will be deported from
Indonesia's resort island of
Bali, immigration officials
confirmed Friday, bringing a
swift end to a case that has
drawn international attention
and reignited concerns over
foreign tourist behavior.
Blue, whose real name is Tia
Billinger, he was getting
nervous there for a minute, was
detained last week after
Indonesian police raided a
studio and Badong, a popular
tourist district near Bali's
capital, Denz Pazar.
Tell the news, do you reach?
The 26 year old and three men, 2
Britons and one Australian, were
questioned on suspicions of
producing pornographic content.
Authorities later said no adult
material was found.
Despite the lack of evidence,
immigration officials said
Billinger will be deported early
Saturday morning.
According to Hussain Hendano, an
immigration spokesman at Denspar
International Airport.
Her flight is scheduled to
depart just after midnight.
Earlier on Friday, Billinger and
her associate, 27 year old Liam
Andrew Jackson, were fined
200,000 rupiah, about $12.00
each, for trafficking
violations.
A District Court judge ruled the
pair had jointly committed the
offense during the December 4th
raid.
Police also seized a dark blue
pickup truck labeled Bang Bus,
British tabloid reports
perfectly.
Fine.
Yeah, nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
'Cause it says bang bus on it.
What goes on here?
In English, that means something
completely different, Sir.
I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah.
Is that going to be another
$12.00?
The Australian guy comes out in
a loincloth.
Hi, I don't.
Know what to talk about The
reports later claimed the
vehicle had been untaxed since
2023 and illegally repainted
without proper registration.
Oh, that's why I got picked.
Up.
Yeah.
Hey, you didn't you?
Didn't get this registered for
the painting?
You didn't.
Properly label the bang bus.
Billinger's lawyer Edward
Pangahelia.
This is a complete international
story.
Said his clients would cooperate
fully with authorities and
offered an apology to the people
of Bali, and the incident caused
public concern.
Well, Bali is predominantly
Hindu and welcomes millions of
tourists each year.
Indonesia's home to the world's
largest Muslim population
strictly bans the production of
pornography.
Unless it's with a.
What if they just wanted to make
a video?
You know what I mean?
Well there was no proof
pornography was ever done, so
they must have caught them
before.
No, it was.
A paint job.
It was a paint job.
Well, that's what got the car
seized.
Right.
Violations can carry prison
sentence up to 12 years in fines
reaching $360,000. 12 years for
bank bus, yes, but ten months
for stealing the Bruce Lee
bronze statue.
And cutting it up into small.
Pieces in a Russian esque
country.
Yes.
The case comes amid renewed
frustrations among Balanese
officials over unruly foreign
visitors following a string of
high profile deportations in
recent years, including
influencers expelled for posing
nude at sacred sites.
So you can't.
I mean, I get that you can't be
naked at some you.
Can't be naked at their yeah,
they're religious things and
stuff.
But but like, you know, if so
and so wants to get together
with three dudes and get a train
rant on her and they record it
with her phone.
I don't with their phone.
Yeah.
I mean, we're.
Just.
I mean, we're just assuming that
that's what this buzz was for.
Yeah, maybe they had balloons
and they were popping them as
they drove around or something.
Yeah, maybe they scaring all the
Muslim tourists.
Right.
Maybe because because of the
there's too.
There's too many jokes to go
there with the Bing busting.
They all have flashbacks, I mean
PTSD.
You got to leave the country.
Get out of here.
There are picturing things in my
head.
This is wild.
I love being in charge.
I'm.
Surprised the jokes didn't come
earlier when he was talking
about the bank with call.
I didn't.
Read it all the way through.
I got I got sucked in by the
headline.
Right.
Like, oh, porn.
Oh, porn.
Yeah, that's always good to
slow.
News I'm a dirty old man.
Didn't put 2.
I'm not familiar with her work.
No you're not.
No, you're not subscribed to her
only fans page or anything.
No, I I'm too cheap.
You know that.
You know better than that.
That's a good point.
All right now under the world of
sports.
Boots.
Boots, you know.
Her work?
Have you?
Are you familiar with mine?
She's been in the news a lot
lately though, yeah.
She's not one of them that sort
of ran for government office or
anything, is she?
I don't know.
I mean, a couple of them in
Britain have done that.
No, she was the she was the girl
that wanted like 1000 guys or
whatever.
Oh, same one.
Yeah, this is the same, the same
chick.
Oh.
I think we had a news story
about her, didn't we?
No, I don't remember doing a
story.
I've seen the story, but I
didn't do a story about 1000
dudes.
I did see it though.
Even I have a line.
Yeah, this is 1000.
It was a it took.
Four guys, it's four guys and
then nothing over.
Four.
Anything past 4 is too much too.
Much runs.
That's fair.
Back on to the Bang Bus in
Muslim country.
Muslim Bang bus didn't even know
that was a thing.
And it's not even a bus, it's a
pickup.
Truck No wonder she's getting 12
years.
No, no she didn't.
She just had to pay $12.00.
Yeah, she got.
Oh $12.00.
And she's getting deported.
Yeah, well, she just left.
She probably left quietly on her
own.
No, they showed her in
handcuffs.
Oh, did they?
No, that was part of the Bang
Bus movie.
Yeah, that was part of the video
that.
Was part of the video.
Guess what?
The only way.
The poster.
I I got news for you.
Here's the way you're getting
out of this country. 999 Muslims
bearing the wall.
Cue the funk music.
Oh God.
All right, next.
All right, Bucks fall flat in
Miami, remain alive in playoff
hunt Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't
help their quest for a fifth
straight NFC South on Sunday in
Miami, but neither did they see
that quest come to an end.
A 20 to 17 defeat at the
Dolphins at Hard Rock Stadium
dropped the Buccaneers to seven
with seven wins and 9 losses and
represented their seventh loss
in the last 8 weeks.
However, Carolina's concurrent
loss to Seattle on Sunday meant
the Buccaneers and Panthers will
battle head to Tampa Bay also
needs one loss by Atlanta in the
last two games to win the
division with a victory in Week
18.
Mikey, you have a video for us.
No, I do not.
Oh, you already talked about
what you wanted to talk about.
Yeah, sorry.
This is where I allowed for your
space for your story.
Are you happy that the Dolphins
beat the Bucks?
Is that the first time they've
won this season?
Who?
The Dolphins?
No, they're moving along now.
They're they've won like six
games or something.
Oh wow.
We've won seven now as much as
Bucks, but our division's a
little harder.
Yeah, well, your division's
already a rap with the Patriots.
But no, it was I, I mean, I that
game has no weight to it other
than trying to see what our
future is.
Yeah, right.
That's all.
That's all that game, really.
Works.
What's your future?
Hopefully quin yours I mean.
You think he's the guy?
Maybe, I don't know.
I like, I like some of the guys
in the draft.
I like the kid from Georgia.
Stanton.
Stanton, yeah, the quarterback
from Georgia, he's pretty good,
but he's a big dude.
You know, he's like 6 foot 4,
like 250.
You know, he's like a Ben
Roethlisberger type.
But I mean, hey, Quiniers is
cheap right now.
We drafted them for a reason.
Don't you owe like 2 and 90
million dollars or something?
Yeah, you just got to eat it,
bro.
There's like 6 teams out there
right now that have this
quarterback situation.
You know, they, they have a, a
quarterback that they paid all
the money to and he's not doing
anything or he's sitting on the
bench.
So you just got to eat it.
Who are the other teams?
The Browns.
OK.
I mean, Cincinnati every other
game.
I think Burroughs.
I think Burrough wants out.
Yeah, I.
Think he's done?
He gets injured so much.
Atlanta.
I mean, Kirk Cousins, they
signed him for all that money
and then went with Pennix, did
they?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, look, I'm not, I
wasn't happy about the the L,
but I'm so done, man.
I'm just so done.
You guys weren't really playing
your game, to be honest.
They didn't look good.
No, but.
They haven't looked good for
four or five games here.
Well, he's just he's not
throwing the the ball to Abuka
as much and he's like Rashad
White is not really a factor
anymore.
Just looks messy.
Even like Kate on he's not
really a fat.
You know, it's it's kind of
weird.
Like as soon as Godwin and Evans
came back, it's like all those
guys disappeared.
Yeah.
And now it's just completely.
The game plan is throw it to
those two guys, you know, and
let what's his name run the
ball, but he's not really.
Lucky.
Yeah, he's not as effective as
Rashad White all the time.
He's mad about the online he got
into a fight with worse on the
sidelines.
Makes sense.
I mean, he's having a problem.
Yeah.
But but the but the good news
about that loss is that it's
going to be an exciting game
because whatever team wins.
You're in.
You're in.
But Todd Bowles will not lose
his job.
You don't think so?
Nope.
So how do you feel about that,
Palmer?
B those multiple choice, I'm
sorry.
OK, all right.
Are you going to the game?
Yeah.
There you go.
My last game.
This is the last game of my
season tickets and I'm done.
Just too much stress dude.
Forever done, yeah.
No, I get it.
I get it.
When I got rid of the magic
tickets I it just doesn't make
sense at times.
You just have to be like, oh, I
got to go to this game.
Oh, shit.
Oh, you know, like I got all
these other things going on, but
hey, I got to go to this game or
whatever.
And like, it's just leading up
to it.
It's just anxiety and all this
other crap, right?
Once you're there, you just kind
of settle in.
As you know, I really settle in
when someone yells at me and and
they and they yell at me about
my kids standing or something.
When I get to that point, I feel
better.
I'm like, oh, I guess thank you.
Yeah.
I suck, OK?
Yeah, I suck.
All right into cigar news.
Cigar news OK.
Quay is this from coop or?
Did.
No.
OK, this is this is all half
wheel today.
Perfect.
Oh no, it's not all half wheel.
There's a Cigar Aficionado and I
think something else.
Just want to make sure you're
signing it.
Quay Dior say a special Dior say
goes on sale in Andoria.
What I don't?
I I I kedor say.
Quay QUAID or say D hyphen.
Yeah, or say not hyphen, but OK
goes on sale in Andoria.
I'm not sure where Andoria.
Is.
Me neither.
It's probably next to.
Box.
I think it's one of the moons
around Andor, I'm not sure.
Yeah, it's non Russian esque.
Last year marked the 50th
anniversary of Que de Orsei
brand, and now the cigar created
to celebrate the occasion is on
store shelves in Andoria.
Isn't a Cuban.
I think it's Cuban.
Yeah, I believe it's cigars.
Yeah, well, it's Cuban esque.
So is Andoria, the city in Cuba?
No.
The Cue diorce special diorce is
a six inch by 53 Toro vitola
that is called Oh great Sobra
salientes which the Cuban vitola
naming system.
This is the same vitola as the
Romeo and Julieta Capuletos.
A 2016 edition, Limitada and Por
la Ranja sobers something in
2014.
Andora is a tiny landlocked
country nestled high in the
Pyrenees Mountains, situated on
the border between France to the
north and Spain to the South,
making it a micro state in
southwestern Europe.
Closer to Russia?
Very.
Weird place to release a cigar.
I guess so, yeah.
Maybe they're not.
They're not expecting big sales.
Maybe it was Mickey Peg when he
was hiking.
He did post a lovely Christmas
photo with his family, did he?
So he's back off the trail,
apparently.
He's back off the trail.
When the cigars were announced
last year, Habanos essay the
Cuban cigar giant said it would
be offered in both standard 20
count boxes and five Count gift
boxes.
On December 15th, the Five Count
boxes went on sale in Andoria,
priced at We Have EUR and the
Freedom Dollars.
Freedom Dollars.
I'm going to say it was a 5
pack.
This is the box.
The whole box.
The whole box.
I hope this is the whole box.
Does it say how many cigars are
in the box?
Yes, I just mentioned that, but
you weren't paying attention.
$300.
Bootay. 223. 100 and 2372.
Boom.
The distributor named Dora says
the 20 count boxes are not yet
available.
Well, they got to get to the top
of the mountain.
They haven't quite got them
there.
Hurry up Mickey, we got.
To get them up there.
Got to get them up there.
We're not reading the rest of
this because I have no idea
where any of these places are.
He told you it's a Dora means.
A Dora say.
Wow, it's a long story.
Apparently 1999 Siete was merged
with typical Air.
A year later, all to this, a new
joint venture.
Well, I know what happened to
all to this.
So OM releases milestone 50th
birthday blend another 50th
birthday OMOM.
It's the name of the cigar
company.
Have you heard it?
Apparently they've been around
for 50 years.
Apparently they have.
Well, the man has not them.
On Monday, December 22nd,
Osvaldo Morales of OM Cigar
celebrated his 50th birthday.
And as many cigar company owners
do, they celebrated major
birthday.
He's crafted a new cigar to.
Celebrate, it's my birthday.
Only the cigars were actually
made two years ago, so it's his
40th birthday, Cigar on his
50th.
Birthday.
They've been aged to perfection.
Yes, the OM Milestone 50th
Birthday Blend is a 5 by 50 box
pressed for Boost dough that
uses an Ecuadorian Habana
wrapper over an Indonesian
Sumatra seed binder and four
fillers, Dominican Creoho Creolo
98 and a leaf, just one leaf
from Nicaragua and a leaf from
Pennsylvania.
Oh, actually doesn't sound like
a bad cigar.
The cigars were rolled in April
2023 the Tablicalera El Artesia
factory in the Dominican
Republic.
Each cigar is an MSRP of
Dominican cigar for 50th
birthday for Osofleida. $23.
$12.00 nine dollars.
Really.
And it's offered him bundles of
5 or 10 cigars, which feature an
image of Morales designed to
look like the Buddha.
So apparently he's a he's a
hefty fellow allegedly created
by his friends.
Production is limited to just
about 5000 cigars.
The cigar began shipping to
stores earlier this week, and
Morales told Half Wheel that a
launch event is scheduled for
Saturday, January 3rd at La Old
Mills Cigars in Lake Ridge, VA.
Oh, OK.
Is that lake Ridge?
Lake Ridge, VA, It's in
Virginia.
Yeah, yeah.
We went there, didn't.
We it's on a Ridge near lake.
We went to Virginia.
We didn't go to lake.
Ridge.
It's a Hogs head.
Was it Tobaccology?
We didn't go to.
I've never been there.
Is Lake Ridge a cigar shop in
Wisconsin?
Lake.
Are you thinking lake?
Lake Country.
Oh, Lake Country it's.
A totally different state.
Yeah, sorry.
Completely different place,
yeah, different world, but.
Thank you for chiming in.
No problem, let's hear more
about the Buddha.
About what?
The Buddha.
That's it at the end of the
story.
Next.
Doesn't pay attention.
The new Casa del Habano opens in
quick Queretaro.
Who?
Where?
Carretero.
Carretero.
This must be in Canada.
It's in Mexico.
Oh, you know where this one is.
Yes, this one tells us where it
is.
The Casa del Habano Casa de
Habano franchise expanded again
in early November with an
addition to the cigar shop chain
opening in Queretero, Mexico, a
city in the Central Highlands
north of Mexico City.
The small lounge and shop is
located next to Antea.
One of the largest shopping
malls in Latin America is on the
mezzanine in a large office
building, which also has
restaurants and other shops.
The new store features a walk in
humidor, 2 small indoor lounges
each with seating for about 6
people, and a small outdoor
terrace.
Smoking is permitted in all
three seating areas as tradition
in Casa de Habano shops.
The store includes a small bar
as well as a humidified lockers.
It has all that in it.
It still has space for six
people each.
Yes, Mexico is a country in
southern North America, bordered
by the United States to the
north, the Pacific Ocean to the
West.
We're.
All familiar with.
Mexico and the Gulf, it says.
Gulf of Mexico, which is.
Gulf of America.
Oh, this is, yeah, inaccurate.
The Caribbean Sea.
Guatemala and Belize to the east
and southeast, in case you were
wondering where Mexico was.
They're going to keep that
going.
Right below the fence.
The humidor was well stocked
with every major Cuban brand,
including Cohiba's, and a full
range of Trinidad's.
Prices include, at current
exchange rates of 18 pesos per
U.S. dollar, a Cohiba Siglo goes
for one 3950 Is that one cigar?
Yeah, hey, Monte cristo #2 at
$55.15, a Trinidad foundator.
Foundator.
Found fun fun it could be for
the dador.
No, this is the the knock off of
the foundation.
Hey Romeo and Julietta Churchill
at 6688 The franchise is
operated by Mariano Azula, who
also owns a Casa de Habano in
Lyon, a agro industrial city
about two hours from Quintero.
Future expansion plans for the
shop include an adjacent bar and
a restaurant where patrons can
eat before or after enjoying a
cigar.
And two more seats 2.
More seats.
Two more seats on each side.
Now it's time for the industry's
favorite game.
Man, you burned your stuff fast.
Yeah, he did burn.
There wasn't much news.
They were small stories.
Yeah.
What's this?
You go in too fast.
I said it's time for the
industry's favorite game.
And then you said something.
What's the score?
I go to a lot of work, put these
games together.
I asked.
Very little from the two of you.
Well, you your streak is over as
you lost.
You lost on Friday.
Yeah, you lost today or Monday's
game.
Monday's game.
Yesterday's game.
Oh, they're not real boots, no.
That was real, Boots.
No, that was real.
Boots was it?
Yeah, that's real boots.
People say they like that boots
better.
Is that what they said?
Yeah, that's what people are
saying.
Yeah, before we play this game,
I do have to give a shout out to
No Shout Outs.
No shout outs.
What are you doing?
No shout.
Outs Julian Gordon because we're
not doing the page round today.
OK.
He sent it.
I traded him the Cam thing that
I got the Druid state lighter
Cam, and he sent me the Quinquan
de Janeiro and the craft.
Yeah, I told him I shot.
Him.
The spray Cam?
Yeah, your prize from the
customer appreciation thing.
Yes, well, I had one and I told
him I was like, I had this one.
You said you'd shout him out on
the podcast.
Yeah, I told him to give him.
A shout out.
Wow.
Look at you look.
At that, the other Gordon.
Just manipulating the system.
Yeah, right.
What they call that it's called.
It's called something Gray mail
or green mail or something.
It's called When you give away
free shout outs on the radio.
Oh, is that what it is?
Yeah.
What is it called?
Gray mail or green mail called?
Bing bong.
Called Bing bong.
That's a Bing bong section.
That's a Bing bong.
All right, this review is from
December 24th, 2025.
Mr. Charlie Minato.
It's a knuckle sandwich cigar.
Limited edition Nicaragua Review
the off menu.
Oh boy, you want me?
To go first.
Yeah, is somebody trying to get
in?
Here 89.
Nobody's trying to get in, just
Julian Gordon. 86 That was
definitely somebody.
I heard a bang.
No.
OK cigar reviews a knuckle
sandwich off menu.
Country of origin is Nicaragua
factory, San Latano factory
rappers, USA, Pennsylvania
broadleaf binders, Nicaraguan
fillers Nicaraguan.
Length of 6 inches by 54.
It is pressed $16.00 a cigar.
It was released in November and
they smoked 3 cigars. 89.
I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go 91.
OK.
Clue number.
One, how did that change you
from 86 or 85 to 91?
Well, Jack, tax it, man.
Jack, tax it.
Yeah, OK.
He.
Doesn't know what we're doing?
Clue #1 Distinctive look and
clean profile.
The box press presentation is
striking and memorable, with
dark wrappers and a rounded
corners that makes the cigar
stand out visually despite the
dark, heavy appearance.
Smoking profiles impressively
clean, delivering layered earth,
wood, cocoa and pepper without
becoming muddy or harsh. 89.
Excuse me 91.
Next clue maybe?
Did he Google it or something?
Like how did he jump from 85 to
91?
You said 91 again though, right?
Yeah.
Glue #2 flavor, depth and
evolution.
Across the three samples, there
was real complexity from sweet
chocolate, fruit and creaminess
to pepper toast, nuttiness and a
mineral notes.
Do you have that lit now?
Are you done clicking?
Are you good?
Are you fine over there?
Are you good?
I'm good.
Retro hails add additional
intrigue with flashes of mango
sweetness, pencil lead and chili
spice keeping the experience
engaging throughout most of the
smoke.
He likes it 89.
You know, maybe my numbers are
going up because I'm smoking
this delicious SBC 22, so maybe
a 92.
A Bing bong, a green male plug
of the SBC 22.
Yeah.
Clue #3.
So what did you pick?
What did you?
Pick 92. 92 guys, it's a 22.
What's going on here?
Delicious.
Inconsistent construction and
cohesion.
While two cigars perform well,
one consistently requires touch
ups, and overall burn and
combustion are uneven.
Stop sitting under the AC.
Additionally, the final third
loses focus with flavors
becoming scattered.
And less dynamic, which detracts
from the otherwise strong and
well developed profile.
Palmer's losing it.
He's unraveling right now.
I'm unraveling.
I'm still worried about Bonnie
Blue. 89.
You got one more, right?
Final thought. 92.
Rarely is it a good idea to
judge how a cigar will perform
based on the way it looks.
An Uncle Sandwich off menu
starts off with what I expect
based on the menacing apparent a
bit of chocolate, but a lot of
heavy earth notes joined by an
array of pepper.
And yet, as I write this, as the
third cigar has finished, little
of that profile remained.
Sure, by the end of each cigar
there's still some earth, but
it's a completely different
cigar.
Softer sweetener and a profile
that seems quite removed from
how things started.
Couple of minor issues
preventing the cigar from
exiting the good category and
entering the Gray one, but this
is another thumbs up release
from Espinoza and Guy Fieri. 89,
90. 89.
Wow, off the jump I nailed that
one.
How'd you know?
That Charlie's not going to give
it a 90.
Why?
Because C90 is a lot.
Then they give like some like
cigar 90 something.
So when I hear Charlie, I'm
going to start either 88 or 89,
just, you know.
And then as it progressed, he
liked it.
So I felt good at 89.
And then he talked briefly about
one having inconsistency, like
some touch ups, but that wasn't
enough to break it.
So I didn't lower my number.
I stuck at 89.
And then he at the end, he
concluded that he liked the
cigar, but Charlie liking the
cigar won't.
He won't give it a 90.
Unbelievable.
He won't give it a 90 because of
the touch ups so I almost went
88.
Oh, who would have tied?
So I nailed it off the jump are.
You ready for the next one?
Yep.
All right.
This is from April 6, 2010,
Brooks Whittington Cigars.
It's a Dominican Republic
general cigar, the Partegus
150C. 86. 75.
Wow.
The Partegus 150C it's from
Dominican Republic factory
Menendez Y Garcia.
It's a Cameroon rapper.
E Garcia.
No, it says Y.
Like just the letter Y Yeah,
yeah, E.
No, it says Y.
Well.
It's like and I don't.
Know what to tell you?
It says Y.
Pyramids.
Binders Mexican fillers
Dominican and Mexican Size is a
5 1/2 by 49 Vitola's Robusto
Extra price varies widely.
That's what it says.
Yep.
Release date 1995 Number of
cigars released 1,000,000
cigars.
Wow numbers cigars smoke for the
review.
Only two.
He can only find 2 of the
million.
Of the million, what was 10
years later?
Well, he smoked it 10.
He smoked it 10 years ago.
Boots.
Oh, 85. 80.
Clue and #1 Solid draw and early
combustion.
Once lit, the party gets 150 C
Delivers an excellent draw and
an uneven burn though much of
the cigar, making it easy to
smoke despite the fragile
looking wrapper and cap issued
at cut.
Issues at cut, sorry. 80.
That's it.
That's the end.
Everybody's just looking at me.
That's where I was at.
You just took my #81.
Clue #2 The cigar consistently
showcases an aged tobacco
profile led by oak and old wood
notes.
For smokers who enjoy
straightforward, mature flavors
without heavy spice or
sweetness, this cigar delivers
exactly that from start to
finish.
Boots. 82. 85.
Clue #3 The profile remains
largely 1 dimensional
throughout, never really
developing beyond aged oak.
As a cigar progresses, the
flavor turns increasingly bitter
and hot, with only fleeting
hints of pepper or floral notes
that failed to evolve,
ultimately making the final
third the weakest part of the
experience.
That's not the last one, right?
There's still a final thought.
That was the last clue. 79. 80.
What can I say that has not
already been mentioned?
After smoking two of these,
including the larger particus
150B, I can honestly say this
cigar is a prime example of what
an over the hill cigar tastes
like.
These were never strong cigars
even when first released and I
guess they were so mild that age
leached all the remaining flavor
out of them.
I was seriously considered
breaking it open and eating the
tobacco to find any flavor other
than the old oak that I was
getting.
Combined with the fragile
wrapper which split on me in the
last third, the better ending
the cigars really not even worth
considering.
Yikes.
Even as a yard gar.
You even said that.
I have tasted $2.00 cigars that
are better and have more flavor
than the current state of
Partigus 150 and I recommend you
not even considered wasting your
time or money on these.
Yikes, what you got booty?
72.
Damn he went so low.
What?
Were you good?
He went so low, so low you start
drinking a Red Bull or
something.
I just towards the end of the
show I start getting tired.
Yeah, I don't know what that's
about.
I don't either have an energy
drink or some shit.
What do you go like super hard
in the pain and for the 1st 30
minutes?
Yeah, I guess so.
In the last 30, I'm just out of
gas.
Yeah.
What goes on here, I don't know.
Red Bull gives you wings.
Yeah.
You going to vote?
You going to give your score.
Yeah, I'm at 46 minutes.
I'm just going to.
Drag it out a little.
Bit let's see, do I think it's
more or less than 72?
That's a great number, but at
the end of the day I think that
it's going to be less because he
said that it's a terrible cigar,
so I'm going to play it safe and
go 71. 60. 8 and I won.
Woo Hoo.
Bam a nailed 1 and then I got
the second one.
Even sick, we're back.
At our normal operating hours,
just like that.
Under normal operating hours.
Yes.
OK.
Anything else to add?
You got a listener of the week?
No.
No, we haven't been doing that
because it's a Daily Show.
You want to still do our on
Mondays, Listener week and
Monday?
Julian Gordon Bong.
And then you got a Shop of the
week.
Two guys cigars just going to be
carrying the new Connecticut.
Yes, shout out to two guys.
Cigars 2 guys.
Ed Santa Maria.
Yep, now carrying the Postana
Connecticut cigar just like
that.
So OK, that's it.
So tomorrow's New Year's Eve.
Are we doing a show tomorrow?
Yeah.
OK What about New Year's Day?
We doing tomorrow on New Year's
Day.
Good question.
Is tomorrow New Year's Eve?
Tomorrow's New Year's.
Eve, No it's not.
Oh, isn't.
It no Wednesday's Wednesday I
guess when the show releases
Wednesday.
'S.
Oh, that's right, today's the
29th.
We probably will have one on New
Year's Day, so.
We'll do a rerun.
OK.
All right, everybody, thank you
very much.
It's been episode 438.
They're just clicking off here,
just clicking.
Away, OK.
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