ACHP Episode 442 "It Might Not Be Rib Meat?"
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Music.
Welcome to this guy.
Also podcast episode 442.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host is
January 7th, 2025.
And with me today in engineering
is Mr. Boots.
I'm going to be available early
mornings.
How's 1:00 PM Pipplehouser.
Oh wow.
And then my Co host Mikey did my
second show with Preston today.
I'm so excited to step on
Kevitch.
Welcome to the show, gentlemen.
Welcome.
Thank you, I like how now I have
been roped into this show too
so.
This is great, you did a great
job.
If we could bring Boots in too.
I mean, you get the whole show
because this way you can't leave
us behind.
We'll just go to the new show.
We were talking about like we're
remember, we're the old toys.
We're Andy's old toys.
Andy's old toys we.
Don't want to dumb it down by
bigger boots.
I tried to explain that to
Preston today, how his time is
now, but it will soon fade away
also.
Did you show him your foot?
No.
Did you rope?
Yeah, Mikey and the bottom of my
book, but that will be next
time.
Though Oh my God, I'm just
helping the guy out.
What do you want?
Sure.
Right now, exactly.
I enjoy talking about flag
football, I mean.
You're talking about sports.
It's all, it's all perfect for
you, for the kids, man.
Had a big sporty friend now and
I mean, you know.
Well, when he told me about it,
I said, oh, great, so Mikey's
going to create his own league
now.
This is like evolving now he's
not a coach anymore.
He.
Could be he did mention today he
needs other leagues so that he
can have these big national
playoff.
This guy has more than one
league.
Well, he would.
The more leagues, the more
national playoffs he gets.
I'm good for now.
I'm good, dude.
You know you said that before
when you were just a score
taker, remember?
Yeah, I remember the score taker
days.
I'm only taking score.
I'm not going to coach.
Yeah.
Now, I think I heard you have 60
kids this year on football.
Oh my Lord.
Easily. 60 kids and some lady or
somebody just said we know we're
late but can he be on your team
too?
His name is Stu.
You didn't say the name.
You just said somebody's parent
texted or emailed and say hey,
yeah.
Did that's one team?
No, that's all.
No, no, he has more than one
team.
There's six teams total, five of
them are are Coed boys and then
one girl.
You have 6 teams.
I have 6 teams.
You have your own league,
almost.
What do you call it?
You.
Should have seen what the
practice looked like yesterday.
Bro the wild.
He has now brought in other
fathers to sort of sub coach for
him.
This is, yeah, this is where the
league's being created.
Right, this is how it happens.
And now Preston's teaching him
how to make a league.
That's why he's doing the.
Podcast.
I want no part of that.
I want no part of that.
OK.
I heard it's very lucrative.
The only two oh as lucrative
podcasts.
No, not podcast lucrative the.
Only.
Like football?
Lucrative.
Let me get something.
The only reason why I'm doing
the podcast because I want to
help him succeed.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
And sure.
Yeah.
OK.
And we've invested a ton of time
and energy in this, so why not
share that information and help
somebody grow?
Sure.
I get it.
We get it, you know, very
attractive man.
You're very attractive, man
said.
He is, I'm not.
I used to be, but I'm getting
old now.
So now you're moved on to a
little younger.
You find him attractive, huh?
You find him attractive.
He's an attractive man.
There's no arguing that point.
He's an attractive man.
He knows a lot about sports and
his face lights up like yours
does when you see him, but his
lights up when he talked about
sports.
It's.
Fun.
It's fun to talk about sports
with kids.
Well, his probably lights up
'cause he makes a lot of money
doing it.
Right, but probably.
You know, I don't think that
like ours don't.
First of all, it's.
Ours don't light up when we do
this anymore.
First of all, that's none of our
business.
No, it's none of our business.
No, Yeah, yeah.
But I will tell you this.
I mean, like, I have watched
this guy coach progressively
over the past, I don't know,
five years or so.
Six years.
And he's helped me when he
didn't need to, right.
He went out of his way and
explained things to me so that I
would be a better coach, right.
Yeah.
So now he's further along his
journey.
He's he runs his league and he's
doing a great job.
He's coach, you know, he coaches
his kids.
He coaches a kid with me,
coaches Teddy with me because
he's got a little girl.
Yeah, Of course.
I want to return the favor.
I want to help the guy whenever
I can.
Just kind of like the person
that.
I The way his eyes sparkle when
he talks about him.
So in about.
My eyes sparkle more when I talk
about you, baby.
No, they don't.
Oh yeah, too, they don't.
Anyway, we're the old toys.
That's because you want to know
what happened.
To us, right, because.
Because I walk in, I say, hey,
we got to talk.
I want to, I need, we're first
of all, Posania, San Andreas,
Corona, Gorda is about to be
launched.
So this is happening.
Not to be.
It has been.
It is officially.
Launched, so we are taking.
Orders.
It has hit the airwaves and
things and it's going.
To retailers, so if you want to,
if you want it in your store or
if you want, if you're a
consumer and you want your
retailer to carry it, make sure
you reach out to us.
Comment below or or reach out to
palmermikep@pochexcars.com.
So my point is though that I
don't know what my point is now.
I did that whole deviated off of
it.
It's all right and 50 more
episodes we'll.
So here's the, here's the deal.
I walk in and say, hey, let's,
so we're transitioning over to
the site.
I want this website to be our
wholesale operation for all of
our products.
And then I want to have a usual
user friendly built up system so
that a retailer can go in, see
what they purchased in the past
and then place additional orders
by themselves if they don't want
to talk to you, right?
Or me.
So hey, we're, we're pushing for
this.
Let's get the quantities right.
Palmer, we need you to double
check.
I need you to verify what the
quantities are the Corona Gorda.
Oh Lord.
We're verifying for the press
release.
Yeah.
And when I said last night, I'll
ask Greg, if Greg doesn't know,
then I will count them.
You didn't say anything about
that.
So that's what I did.
I didn't.
See that you texted.
Yeah, I texted that last night.
So I'm like, hey, I need this.
I was.
Working on the press release at
9:00.
And then as I'm, as I'm doing
stuff, running around the store
or whatever, he said, Greg walks
in and Palmer says, hey, I need
the quantities for this.
I'm like, he's not going to know
this.
Yeah.
He keeps the inventory for
everything.
Reminds me of Braveheart.
Here you do it.
I'll hold them down.
I handed you the stick and then
you just said here you do it a
little down, you just.
Said last night just count them.
I wouldn't even waiting on Greg
to show up today.
I got here at 7:00 to set this
room up for.
You things are so much easier if
we just do.
It.
All right, we will no longer
include Greg in any of our fun
and games.
Perfect.
No, except for the score gun
one.
Well, that's different.
Yeah, we talked about.
This What are we included in?
What are we doing with the
Patreon?
The JFR 20th anniversary.
How's that look?
It looks great.
Twice as good as the 10th
anniversary on the other one
that I don't remember us doing.
He's coming to town on Friday,
by the way.
Greg.
Greg.
Terrence.
Oh, oh, is he coming here?
Oh, can we do the squirt guns
thing with him?
He offered to be here, but it's
like Friday at 6:00.
Oh Nah, too late.
I have plans.
You have plans?
Yeah, not really.
I mean, I can be here at six.
I guess I wait.
Friday.
What is it?
This is the TV Friday.
This Friday.
What's TV?
We're giving away the TV this
Friday.
Yeah, the boots.
So I'll be here till 7.
You won't.
You have football.
No, yeah, as a whole.
The games haven't started yet.
The Preston.
The Thunder League.
You're terrible people.
Right on today's show,
McDonald's is being sued in a
class action lawsuit.
You can't hide your gun in your
boobs in Polk County.
JD Vance is breaking glass.
Then in cigars, Illinois is not
online friendly.
Two guys get another exclusive
cigar and Cao is moving fast to
a new cigar.
Then a mini.
What's the score?
All this and more in episode 442
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All right, now the news
McDonald's is being sued over
what's in the MC Rib because.
There's no ribs.
He's not hitting buttons, he's
texting.
No, I was trying to send you all
the video.
Fast food giant McDonald's is
facing a federal class action
lawsuit that claims fan favorite
MC Rib sandwich doesn't actually
contain any pork rib meat,
despite its name and appearance.
Filed in on December 23rd, 2025
in US District Court for the
Northern District of Illinois,
the complaint was brought by 4
consumers from California and
New York, Illinois and
Washington, DC.
The plaintiff argues that
McDonald's markets a Mcrib in a
way that leads reasonable
customers to believe they're
getting a premium cut of.
Pork rib.
Come on.
It's called a Mcrib.
So what?
This is ridiculous.
Go ahead, continue.
Instead, the suit says the
sandwich Patty is made from
restructured pork using lower
grade cuts such as pork
shoulder, heart, stomach and
tripe.
Well, if still has pork, still
pork.
And the sandwich is shaped to
resemble ribs to reinforce that
impression.
They argue that McDonald's has
misled customers and could have
charged more for a product
consumers thought was real rib
meat.
The plaintiffs are seeking class
action status on behalf of
anyone who bought a MC rib in
recent years.
Fred Rui is going to be rich.
Fred Ruiz going to be richer.
He's going to have.
Richer.
He's in Iceland right now buying
Iceland I believe.
He's buying ice.
He had to go there for ice and
are asking for damages,
restitution and changes in the
way McDonald's markets a
sandwich.
McDonald's has strongly denied
the allegations issued in a
statement, calling the lawsuit
inaccurate and saying it's.
MC Rib is made with 100% pork
sourced from US farmers and that
the company has always been
transparent about the
ingredients of.
Mcrib, first debuted back in
1981, has become a cult favorite
and a favorite of Fred Rui,
often returning to menus for
limited time.
Some legal experts say the
sandwiches limited time
availability actually
discourages deep consumer
scrutiny.
This is Wildman.
People see about anything but
the the funny part is they got
five people from 5 different
places.
Yeah, because you, they're going
together.
You can find it, you know, an
idiot anywhere, right?
So I mean, like, do you think
that they should be suing MC
Rib, the McDonald's for this?
No, because I like the MC rib
and I don't want to go away.
I don't like them.
They're kind of gross.
I don't.
That's not what this is about.
This isn't about if you like it
or if you don't like it.
It's.
Just it is to me in boots it.
Shouldn't be is?
I hear Preston doesn't like it
either.
OK.
So do you think that
realistically they should be
suing about a rib, about the
fact that it's called MC rib and
they feel like it's not enough
pork product?
No, they're suing about because
they call it MC rib.
But it's not a rib, right?
Not that it's not pork, it's not
a rib.
It's not rib meat.
Well, I guess it's a rib lit.
No, not even a rib lit.
There's no rib meat at all.
What was it called in back in
the day when we were in school,
in elementary school?
Yeah, that was it, Riblets.
No, no, somebody had riblets,
but they had little bones in
them.
No, no, no, I know what you're
talking about.
Those are like ones you could
buy like Walmart.
No, you could get them at a
restaurant maybe like.
Quincy's or something?
Yeah, something like.
That, but no, I know what you're
talking about.
Yeah, and they were called
Riblets and School.
Oh.
You know, oh, school lunch.
Yeah, Yeah.
Oh, well, maybe that was rib
meat.
I.
Know that was one of my favorite
days.
That's why you eat the MC rib so
much.
Yeah, I love it.
And if they had Turkey
tetrazzini at McDonald's, I'd
eat that too.
What?
If it didn't have Turkey in it,
I don't.
Care.
But if it was Peacock?
Who who cares?
It's exotic.
So should do we get to suit
Disney over the Turkey legs that
aren't Turkey?
Yeah, those are Turkey legs,
aren't they?
No, they're EMU.
Allegedly, Yeah.
Oh, I would call them emu legs.
Yeah, you could probably get
more money.
Right, that's right.
Over in Animal Kingdom we have
emu legs.
Oh I would like 7.
Very exotic.
If they're not Turkey, if we
find out that they're not
Turkey, do we get to sue?
You can I guess, if they're
calling them Turkey legs.
Yeah, you can sue.
Can't mislead the public.
I mean, I'm sorry, it's a thing.
So you think that big rib is
misleading?
Because it's not rib meat.
I'm not saying that people are
going to win.
It's a stupid, frivolous
lawsuit.
It's another one of those, hey,
look, I found a way to make
money, right?
There's a lady sue in SeaWorld
because she got hit in an eye by
a duck on the roller coaster,
but a duck didn't hit her.
It was an it was an emu, not an
emo, but does an emo egret.
It was an egret.
An egret.
But the law in Florida says if
SeaWorld didn't bring the ducks
in or the egret, she can't sue
them because they just happen to
show up.
And Egret's a pretty big thing.
Oh, so she doesn't have a case
of stand on?
No, because it's not Seaworld's
egret.
That's interesting.
It'd.
Be like if I went outside and a
crow came and popped me in the
eye and I sued you, it's not
your crow.
That's not my crow.
Your crow, you didn't bring the
crow.
I almost pulled that story, but
it was really short.
That was the end of the story.
So they put up safety measures
to keep crows away from you, no?
You should you as yes, but I
also have pain and suffering in
disfigurement.
First of all, people go to
McDonald's thinking that they're
getting 100% beef or chicken.
Or is it beef?
I thought it was beef.
Isn't it beef?
No, I'm saying like any of it.
Like if you get a hamburger you
think it's 100% beef.
I'm pretty sure it is 100% beef.
They say it's 100% beef.
All beef patties, all beef
patties, all beef patties,
special sauce, lettuce, cheese.
Pick onions on a sesame seed
bun.
That's a big.
You've seen the video of how
long it can last on a dashboard.
That's not beef.
Sure it is.
It just has chemicals in the
beef.
It's got only.
Percent.
Yeah, it is.
It's delicious.
Yeah, well, exactly, but.
Yeah, it's delicious.
I don't know whatever McDonald's
hamburgers, but they're good,
and they're good everywhere.
I've had them in three different
countries.
They're all the same.
I've had the Mcrib in Nicaragua.
You know, you're a seasoned wow.
You're a seasoned McDonald's
vet.
When you get like when you order
it and you're like, this one's
off.
Yeah, this one, this one
overcooked.
A little less potassium in this
one, I think.
A little less sodium.
McDonald's never has that issue.
I've gone to McDonald's and have
different experiences with their
cheeseburgers.
Really.
Yeah.
Weird.
So you didn't.
You didn't just get chicken by
mistake.
Just tell when something's fresh
and when it's not as fresh.
You do with fries or eat fried.
The fries, you're like, fries
are terrible.
The fries are always different
per place.
OK, Whoever's making them, yeah.
Yeah, whoever's making sometimes
salt.
Sometimes.
Yeah, sometimes.
Whoever's not putting salt on
the fries is a Dick.
Wow wow.
Maybe they don't like as much
salt.
You're, you know, Burger King
stopped doing that because
people were having like, medical
issues and they were getting
sued.
What stopped serving McDonald's
fries?
No, they stopped.
No, they stopped putting salt on
their fries at.
Burger King.
So like when I, I started, you
know, I like Burger King out of
all of them, so.
Oh well, good for you, because
there's no crowds ever.
Burger King.
Exactly.
So anyway, so I go to Burger
King and like, there's no salt
in these fries and it just
tastes like crap, right.
Yeah, It's like I asked the
lady, I said, why don't you guys
put salt in the fry?
She goes, well, you have to ask
for the packets now.
She's like, you can thank all
the people that sued us.
I'm like.
I like the onion rings because
they're different but after two
I'm like these aren't any good.
They're the only place that
serves onion rings.
Right.
So you go and get them, you eat
too, and you're like, now
they're terrible.
You know, when somebody told me
that about the onion rings,
they're the only place that
serves onion rings.
Yeah, it made me really think.
It is.
Really.
Are they the only place?
Yeah.
Yeah, McDonald's doesn't have
under.
McDonald's doesn't.
Wendy's doesn't.
Yeah, Arby's doesn't.
None of those places do.
Carl's Junior jack-in-the-box.
Chick-fil-A.
Nope, they said the Jesus fries.
Isn't that crazy?
Jesus, fries in the Lord's
chicken and now you can order a
half and half.
You can get half fried, half
onion ring.
Yep, really, that's the way to
go.
Because then you're not stuck
with all the onion rings.
You just get a couple right and
then you're satisfied and then
you just eat the fries.
I like the half and halfs.
Yeah, the half and half.
Welcome to this episode of Where
to Eat in Fast Food with Your
House Boots.
Oh, hello.
They're bootsisms.
Bootsisms, alright.
It was ugly.
It was a scene deputies say they
won't forget anytime soon.
A Florida man is behind bars
after Polk County deputies say
he was caught trespassing at a
construction site and what they
allegedly found on him made the
arrest even stranger.
According to authorities,
deputies were called out after a
suspicious person was reported
wandering through an active
construction zone.
When they arrived, they located
the man and detained him for
trespassing.
That's when the encounter took a
bizarre turn.
During the search, deputies
discovered the suspect was
wearing prosthetic silicone
breast.
Hidden underneath them was a
loaded firearm, according to the
Sheriff's Office.
Investigators say the man had
intentionally concealed the gun
beneath the fake breast in an
apparent attempt to avoid
detection.
Deputies describe the situation
bluntly, calling it ugly and
something they don't expect to
ever see again anytime soon.
The suspect was taken into
custody without further incident
and booked into the Polk County
Jail.
He now faces multiple charges
including trespassing, illegal
possession of a concealment of a
firearm, depending on the
outcome of the investigation.
So he didn't have a concealed
weapons permit?
No.
Out of all the out of all the
story, this really makes me
concerned about Palmer's
algorithm on his phone.
He's looking up these stories.
I have to go find stories.
This isn't easy to do every
single day.
Prosthetic breasts.
That was the best story.
And he likes it was funny.
And he likes to find stuff that
makes you uneasy, and this is
definitely in that category.
No.
It doesn't make it was funny.
The picture of the man is
dressed in like a bustier with
the fake breast on and smeared
makeup on his.
Face, he's just a wacko.
He went Buffalo Bill style.
Yeah, but he had the gun hidden
underneath the fake boob.
Like they're not going to look.
What kind of gun?
It was a small caliber weapon.
I don't know.
I didn't say.
Would you?
Would you hide A gun under your
prosthetic boobs?
Boots.
Boots.
Hello Boots.
Hello.
I'm I'm not answering you.
Guys, why not?
Why not?
I'm not engaging.
Where would you hide A gun I'm.
Not engaging.
Yeah, if you had to hide A gun
on your body, where would you?
Hide it?
Yeah.
Where would you hide it?
We're not talking about
prosthetic boobs anymore.
Are.
We no no, just like just a small
firearm like an LCP or
something.
I'll push you into it slowly.
Where would you?
Where would you hide?
Prison Wallet.
Prison Wallet.
Prison Wallet.
No, just probably like on my
right side somewhere.
Down under your ball sack or
something?
If we're talking about this guy
that hit this gun, he probably
had like a little 22 or.
Yeah, it was something small.
It wasn't a revolver.
Yeah, he's only AB Cup.
Yeah, they weren't giant boobs.
Yeah, it wasn't a double.
That would have been obvious.
Yeah.
First of all, they weren't boobs
at all.
Well, they were silicone boots.
How do you know they were
prosthetic?
Maybe they were plastic.
Because they said silicone, I
have to cut these stories down.
They're really long sometimes
and I know his attention span
won't last for the entire story.
I'm sorry, are you done?
All right, next one.
Yep, there's the arm.
Still into what?
Where's he hiding the gun?
What?
Just in his waistband?
That's not really hidden.
I put it on the side.
That's probably where you have
it.
Every day.
Well, you got to be ready for
the bears, buddy you.
Got to have a gun for the Bears.
That gun's not stopping
anything.
No, no, 22 is not stopping a
bear.
You're just pissing it off.
Yeah, if it even goes in.
OK.
All right.
Moving on to the next story.
All right suspect accused of
breaking windows at JD Vance's
home faces federal charges.
He's in trouble.
JD Vance sounds like a furniture
store.
Kind of does.
Where'd you get your new couch
at JD Vance?
JD Vance.
They have their own financing.
He probably 0.
Percent down.
Law enforcement in Cincinnati
has arrested a 26 year old man
who allegedly he looks like he's
12.
Yeah, very strange. 26 year old
man who allegedly damaged the
Ohio home of US Vice President
JD Vance in the early hours of
Monday.
And now the suspect is facing
federal charges.
The incident unfolded shortly
after midnight in Cincinnati's E
Walnut Hills neighborhood, where
Secret Service agents assigned
to Vance's residents responded
to reports of a break in
attempt.
So apparently they're not right
there at the house if they had
to respond, no.
So the guy got up to the house
OK?
Seems odd.
For you think JD's there, no.
No, he wasn't there, but still,
you know.
We gonna guard an empty house?
It's the vice president's house
in Ohio.
I guess do.
You know where the vice
president lives daily?
The boots.
You should know The West Wing.
No boots.
Where's the vice president?
Live in Washington.
I.
I actually have no idea.
He lives on a Michael's taking
naps over there.
He lives on a Navy base at the
big fancy house that normally
the guy in charge of the Navy
base would live at.
Oh, in the captain's quarters.
Yeah, Naval base.
He lives in the naval.
Whatever naval base is right
there, really.
Officials say the suspect
identified as William Defore,
not the actor.
Director foul.
Well, that's close.
Used a hammer to smash multiple
windows at the property.
A Secret Service vehicle was
also reportedly damaged during
the incident.
The guy had a lot of time at the
house.
Yeah, that and it was just an
empty vehicle.
At the time of the attack, Vice.
Well, no, the Secret Service
were sleeping in the.
Oh, were they?
Yeah, they were supposed to be
watching the house.
You're fired.
Yeah, you're right.
Those guys aren't going to get.
They're not going to keep going.
Now, the time of the attack,
Vice President Vance and his
family were not at home, having
already returned to Washington,
DC, for the week.
Authorities say Dafoe was trying
to enter the home when Secret
Service.
Oh, see, but not William Dafoe.
It's different.
No Secret Service agents
detained him, and Cincinnati
police took him into custody.
Dafoe now faces a range of
federal charges, which may
include damaging government
property, criminal trespass and
resisting federal officers, as
federal prosecutors work with
the Secret Service and local
police on the case.
Prosecutors also noted that the
causing significant damage to
the property associated with the
federal officials can bring
serious penalties.
According to court records,
Defore has a history of
vandalism, prior encounters with
the legal system, including a
previous charge that led to a
mental health court treatment
order.
He's he's meditating.
What?
He was meditating.
What did he say?
I can't hear.
Him he said that I'm meditating.
Oh, you're, oh, you're
meditating?
Yeah.
He's thinking about Preston.
This was the chair he sat in.
Oh, he sat.
Oh, he sat in Mikey's.
Chair Mikey gave him his chair.
Wow.
I know.
And his good camera.
That's how you know.
Yeah, that time you.
Guys act like I'm a bad person
or something.
No, no, that wouldn't make you a
bad person.
Why are you jealous?
I'm not jealous, I'm just
letting the listeners in on our
everyday lives that are behind
the scenes, so they need to know
what's going on.
All right, Boots, you got a
video because Mikey didn't bring
1.
I do, I sent it to you guys on
it would only let me send it to
you on Instagram for some
reason.
What?
You got to screen record it
dude.
Nobody knows how to do that, but
yeah, how do you do that?
You drop down and then you hit
the red dot.
Is it the one with this?
That's not it.
I didn't get it.
I didn't get it.
I didn't get it either.
Hold on.
He.
Doesn't even know what's.
The name of your account on
Instagram?
Wow, maybe I haven't.
Don't know you Epicurean smokes.
Hair.
No, that's Steve.
I just sent it to you, Palmer.
How on on Instagram?
What are you talking about?
Oh, there it is.
And I just sent it to Mikey.
Now the background of this
video, just so you guys know is
this is from this is from Skip.
He wants to know what your
guys's thoughts are on this.
White performer hurts my eyes.
Pulling there was ATV show,
where celebrities dress up as
musicians and perform in
blackface.
Yes.
Oh, so that guy dressed up as
Snoop, as a white guy?
Oh, it's the guy down in the
bottom corner, right?
I see.
OK, so who wanted to see this?
Skip.
I think he always says skip when
he just.
No, it really was from Skip.
He wanted to know what your guys
thoughts were on this.
I thought the scoot the Snoop
guy looked kind of weird.
I mean, they get they're
dressing up to look like people,
they look like the same person
that's they're acting and
performing in.
Right.
It's not like they're wearing,
you know, blackface from back in
the whatever.
It was they're trying to
comically make fun of a race.
The guy with the moustache is
pretty good because you can't
see his moustache.
Yeah, I mean if it's only
blackface.
Well, they're doing a black
person.
I mean, they're they're doing a
famous black person's what I
mean.
Well, the show only does black
people OK. 00 and it's in
Poland.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't read the top.
In Poland, there's ATV Show,
where celebrities dress up as
musicians perform in blackface.
Yeah.
Oh, so these are celebrities
that are dressing up?
I no, I think they're regular
people that just dress up as
black.
Celebrities.
There is ATV show where
celebrities dressed up as
musicians and performed in
blackface.
So these are probably Polish
celebrities.
Oh well.
We don't.
Maybe they don't know it's
blackface.
Oh, maybe it's just different in
our society.
They don't know it's.
Do they?
I don't.
Do they pick a winner?
Do you think that these people
are trying to be malice?
I don't think they're they're, I
don't know.
I don't think they're trying to
be hurtful towards a race.
Yeah, I don't think it's a
racist thing at all.
I.
Thought it was just kind of
weird.
They're just impersonating.
It's weird because Poland
because it's not the.
Show's go ahead.
Sorry you go.
Should see the shows in Japan.
Have you seen those things where
like they have to make the girl
pee or something then you win?
Yeah, because it's not accepted
in our culture.
That's why it's weird.
Are there a lot of black people
in Poland?
I don't know.
I don't.
Think.
I would probably guess not.
They are, they are, they are
American celebrities so that
they're impersonating.
So maybe there's not right this
guy.
You wouldn't even know the first
one.
Yeah, I didn't.
Yeah.
That's why I didn't know what
was wrong.
I thought it was a fancy.
Bag.
Is that J.
Cole?
What was the first one?
J.
Cole.
The Snoop Dogg guy's pretty
good, too.
No, he looks awkward.
Well, I mean it's, it's like the
like.
If Snoop and Martha were to
have.
A It's the Timu Snoop.
Dogg, it's Kendrick Lamar.
Oh, Kendrick Lamar.
The Ray Charles, not Ray
Charles.
Stevie Wonder.
Yeah, Stevie Wonder.
Thank you, that one was funny as
he looks up.
I don't have a problem with it.
Tell Skip, it's fine.
You can tell him we can keep
watching it.
We don't care.
Alright, well, yeah.
Well, now you told me that he
watches this show five days a
week.
He's gonna hear.
It Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's already complimented on.
He loves that we're on every
day.
Yeah, I don't see the issue.
Whatever, you know.
But then again, listen, I'm also
not a black guy like you know.
Oh yeah?
Ask one of your friends Boots.
Ask my one.
I said one of them, not the one.
Hold on you.
Want me to send it to?
Oh, we're going to ask now.
Oh please, who are you calling?
Ash Preston.
Jesus.
Are you calling?
Calling my guy.
We're never getting off the
phone.
It's only an hour long show.
Who's it?
Howard G.
No, you'll find out of me
what's.
Up.
Hey, listen, we're on the
podcast real quick.
I'm going to send you a video on
Instagram and then I, I want you
to call me back.
I am sorry if I just woke you
and I want you to tell me if
it's racist or not.
All right, But now you don't get
to monopolize a ton of time on
the podcast.
Only just a couple minutes.
OK, AM.
I live right now.
Yes, you're on right now.
All right, I'll call you.
Call me right back after you
watch this.
Yes.
All right, bye.
This is my guy, so let's see
here.
It's a mystery.
A mystery black friend.
My boy AC, it's AC.
He does AC or 'cause I.
Know you usually.
Name people with like
professions that they do.
No, no, he's an AC repairman.
He's actually, he's actually an
EMT and he goes and he's a
travelling EMT.
Oh nice.
So he's extremely smart and we
have.
He loves to talk.
He loves to talk, we have long
conversations, but usually if he
calls me I'm like, you got 5
minutes?
He now also texts and calls
Steve upstairs.
I got a set of time, I got to
set a timer and you know what?
It's 5 minutes is never 5
minutes.
It's always like 30.
I'm like bro we're 2525 minutes
past a 5 minute conversation and
I'm knee deep in like 3
different things so.
We talked to him one day the
entire trip from Orlando to
Miami, Yeah.
Oh nice, four hours. 4 hours.
Yeah, yeah.
And we would hand the phone back
and forth.
Here's Palmer.
He asked him some questions.
He's cool, he's my guy.
Well, he's going to call us back
and let us know if it's racist.
So yeah, so do we have to wait a
second?
Or we'll carry on.
We'll go back.
Well, this next story is really
good though.
Wearing the cigar news now.
Oh, you don't?
Oh please.
God, yes.
Illinois bill would add tobacco
tax to online orders You heard
about this yet?
No.
A new bill introduced in
Illinois could soon make buying
cigars online a lot more
expensive for consumers in the
state.
The proposal, known as House
Bill 4250, would require
Illinois tobacco excise taxes to
be applied to cigars and other
tobacco products purchased from
out of state retailers and
shipped to Illinois.
In simple terms, if you buy
cigars online and you live in
Illinois, you'll be paying more.
The bill doesn't just affect
cigars and also covers E
cigarettes, vaping liquids, pipe
tobacco and snuff.
And if it wouldn't only apply to
Internet sales, any out of state
retailer shipping tobacco
products in Illinois would be
impacted.
So it's going to be like Hawaii.
OK.
All major changes out of state.
Oh, another major change out of
state Retailers would be
required to obtain a new remote
retail seller's license just to
ship products into the state.
The biggest impact come from
taxes.
Starting July 1st, 2026, cigar
excise tax, 45% of the wholesale
price with no cap would apply to
the shipped orders.
Here's what that looks like in
real life.
A cigar with an MSRP of 950
might currently cost about that
amount when the purchase online.
Under the bill, the same cigar
would face about $2.14 an
additional excise tax, raising
the price to 1164 before sales
tax.
So we had this question, we
talked about the other one.
They charge sales tax after you
pay this right?
And in places like Cook County,
local tobacco taxes could push
the price even higher.
The bill currently has no Co
sponsors, but the pressure
behind it is easy to see.
Illinois's brick and mortar
retailers already pay these
taxes and they argue that online
sellers have an unfair
advantage.
Anti tobacco groups are unlikely
to oppose the measure, and many
lawmakers may support it simply
because it brings in more tax
revenue.
Wildman.
Cigar Rights of America warns
that shipping restrictions are
becoming one of the biggest
threats facing premium cigars in
2026.
According to the CRA, mail order
sales account for roughly half
of the premium cigar purchases,
and limiting shipping would
dramatically reduce how
consumers access cigars.
Pause that, yo, you're on,
you're on the podcast.
What's going on, man?
I.
Appreciate the invitations.
Yes, Sir, you.
Get my normal energy.
However, it came down with the
real deal flu.
From the Don't worry.
Still present.
OK, I heard.
My wife coughing in the
background.
All right, next.
Time you call me it's
full-fledged.
Anyways, the question is, is
that clip racist?
Yes, absolutely.
There you go.
Denial.
I mean.
We are.
We're we're white guy, white
guys.
So yeah, we're white guys.
You're both in denial.
And he's Poland.
Michael's Polish.
It's from his homeland.
Right, right.
I couldn't hear what was.
That he says.
He says, well, I'm Polish and
it's from my homeland, is what
he said.
So you're really racist?
You're.
Super racist.
OK, all right.
Well, there you go all.
Right, feel better.
Bye.
What?
What?
Why do you guys think it's not?
I don't.
I just think it's a different
culture, it's a different area.
I don't think that they're
intentionally trying to insult
somebody.
I think that they're trying to
act, impersonate a person.
So that's why I think that it's
not.
Yeah, I think you do that when
it comes to a play like The
Nutcracker.
Yeah.
Right.
I don't think it's
discriminatory to reenact The
Nutcracker because it's a play.
OK.
But you're creating these
renditions and and that aren't
naturally recreated.
Does that make sense?
Naturally, you don't go recreate
a Drake concert.
OK.
Drake just performs.
All right.
So I think.
You got 10 seconds would.
You I'm just surprised you guys
don't think it's.
Racist, Yeah, interesting man.
Interesting, interesting stuff.
So enjoy.
Alright.
Love you buddy, talk to you.
Call him later.
He's sick, right?
So.
He's sick.
He's still talking for an.
Hour.
So there you go.
So there it is.
So I mean he couldn't hear me
obviously.
So the show the Wayne brothers
did where they dressed up like 2
white girls, white sex, Yeah.
Is that racist?
I don't know, funny as hell.
Right.
Maybe racist?
I don't know.
I don't know, it's hard to
navigate through all this stuff.
I agree with you because they're
not doing it to make fun of the
person, they're impersonating
the person and whoever does the
best.
Probably some type of game show.
America's Got Talent type thing,
right?
However we are.
We are white, black, right?
Exactly.
So we have to respect someone
else's perspective and opinion,
as we always do.
Certainly, I just said I agreed
with you.
I'm pretty sure Dave Chappelle
talked about us before in the
show.
Did he?
It's racist.
Yeah.
But it's funny, that's how Dave
used to say.
It, you know, it doesn't feel
like, it doesn't feel like funny
racism to me.
It just feels like they're,
they're trying to impersonate a
person.
I don't even think that's aiming
to be funny now.
I mean, they're trying to be the
actual person.
Right.
There are plenty of people that
are, you know, funny, racist on
on both sides of that format,
but, you know, not in the
scenario.
When you saw Stevie Wonder at
the end, you didn't giggle a
little bit.
No.
I always giggle when somebody
impersonates Stevie Wonder.
I thought I would like Stevie
Wonder.
Just a little bit like, oh, he's
looking at the CLN like.
He's looking.
At you, dude, you're too much.
So there you go.
All right.
All right, if this bill gains
traction, Illinois cigar smokers
and online retailers could be
feeling the effects very soon.
Like.
How?
Cause the price will go up.
Yeah, but so like I, I send it
in.
Well not only will the price go
up but you have to re register.
OK.
But I send it in.
I send it in to a customer that
I've been dealing with for 10
years.
How they got to know?
Don't know how that works I.
Don't know, I guess if somebody
tattles on you.
And then what do they do?
You can't sell here anymore.
All right.
Yeah, well.
Then I shipped to the next guy.
Well, hey UOSUOS.
Go to ACS house and look for my
cigars.
I've been shipping the boots
over in Peoria.
Hey, UOSXYZ, Like, what are you
gonna do?
Come get me.
I'm in Florida.
You're in Illinois.
What do you what do you want
from us?
We're in Illinois.
We didn't think about the second
step.
Send me we.
Didn't think this through.
I was like, yeah, give us some
time.
Send me a fine, I don't wait.
Somebody call California, see
how they're doing that.
Right, like what?
All right, you got to be on a
list.
For the United States, but I'm
in a different.
And anymore, we're Illinois.
We seceded from the Union.
Oh, well, at this point then I'm
I just won't go to Illinois,
right?
So wild, so big ovaries.
So you feel this is not going to
affect?
Aren't we registered in like
Ohio or something because they
have a special thing we're
going?
To be ready, yeah, we're, we're
registered wherever we need to
be, where we have to be like.
So is Greg going to register and
then we're just going to ship
without telling the people we
filled out the form?
Allegedly.
Allegedly, what's ridiculous to
me, look, there shouldn't be
taxes on tobacco, period.
There shouldn't be.
You know, I like to argue this
simple aspect always over and
over again.
And you know, it sounds really
dumb, but like, they print the
money, they print the money, go
get the money from the guy who
prints it.
Why are you taking anything from
your citizens of the United
States?
I just don't understand.
That well my question.
Is well, you don't think we
should pay taxes at all?
No.
Is there any tag?
Is there any well?
If they keep printing money, the
money's going to be worth less.
Well, they print it and they
just use it for their stuff.
As long as.
It does.
How many years you've been
playing Monopoly?
How many years?
Yeah.
And $100 bill is still $100 bill
on it, right?
With inflation, it's.
Not real life.
That doesn't matter if it's real
life or not.
Is tobacco, Is there any tobacco
grown in the United States?
Yeah.
Yes, of course, over in.
You ever heard of Connecticut,
Virginia?
You know I.
Have Florida, unfortunately.
No, that's not.
No, not really.
Over in, you know, whatsoville
over there.
Whatsoville.
I couldn't.
Think of the name of the city
where Paul lives.
I mean, I, I don't, I don't
disagree.
I, I don't, I completely agree.
I think there should be taxes,
but there should be like thought
out taxes, like if you're
already getting tobacco from
Nicaragua, right?
You're already being taxed
because of the importation and
customs and all that stuff,
right?
So you shouldn't be taxed on
that again, wherever it's going,
right?
So like when you sell it to
somebody, like there shouldn't
be a sales tax on that.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Well, for me, the more I hear
politicians talk I'm, the more
I'm concerned that they're in
charge.
It doesn't matter what side of
the line there I'm like.
Well, of course they're in.
Charge my God.
We, we as a community have come
up with this idea where we're
like, we're all going to go to
this church and we're all going
to vote and we're going to let
this guy tell us what to do.
And then we all get pissed off
at this guy after we, we put him
in the whatever office he's in.
You know, it's like, yeah, I, I.
Or she or.
He or she yeah, yeah, I do agree
with that portion, but I I
disagree and I think there
should be some type of taxes,
right.
But just like thought out ones,
you know, Stop tacking us three
times.
OK.
You OK with that bomber?
I'm fine.
You're on the downward, you hit.
You were like really high when
he came in.
Now you're like.
I'm afraid my phone's going to
ring.
AC is going to call me.
He's sick.
Yeah, he's sick and it was super
racist.
You have to walk here.
You know, first of all, I love,
I have a long, in depth
conversation with AC about all
sorts of things.
Oh yeah.
And, you know, especially when
something goes on and it's a hot
topic, you know, 'cause I like
to hear his perspective and it's
perfectly fine for me to agree
or disagree with him, but I can
still respect his perspective.
Of course, you know, that's
what's the problem with our
society is that everybody feels
like they have to agree with him
all the time.
Well no, it's not how it works.
Like everybody comes from so
many different walks of life and
you're never going to walk in
their shoes, so you should still
respect their opinion no matter
how different it is from yours,
right?
Yeah, everybody.
Everybody is allowed to have
their own.
Opinion as long as they have
good intentions, right, like
they have to a person has to
have good intentions because
there are people that have bad
intentions with really, really
flawed perspectives and you're
like yeah, there's there I got
nothing here, you know so.
Like the Venezuelan guy.
Well, I mean, it depends on who
you ask, apparently.
Yeah, you know, so.
No input, Palmer, no nothing.
No, no, he lets me go on my
tangents.
He goes what?
He let me go on my tangents.
Certainly I respect your
opinion.
It's your opinion, so go ahead.
Yeah, and Preston and I believe
the same thing.
I would imagine.
Yeah, yes, yeah, I did make
Preston aware today, but I think
I've already mentioned that.
So now he's he's, he knows he's
in the relationship.
I opened the door up for that, I
said.
He.
I know he did.
You told him.
Yeah, right.
Because I really wasn't going to
bring it up again.
But he seemed OK with it.
So it's a fair game now.
But Caliph is.
He's a good guy.
I like Preston.
Yes, he's a good dude.
Mccauliff adding color series.
Gordos is 2 Guys exclusive later
this month.
Mccauliff's Cigars expanding,
Excuse me?
It's popular color series with
the new Gordo size release
available exclusively through 1
retailer 2 Guys, but one
retailer.
Two guys, 1 retailer.
Yes, according to the Cigar
Authority, McAuliffe will debut
Black and Red Gordos, both in 6
by 60 vitola as exclusive
releases for New Hampshire based
Two Guys Cigars.
Both companies are owned by Dave
Garofalo.
The report also notes that the
new Gordo size is expected to
roll out across the broader
across the Broader color series
lineup, which currently includes
blue-green and purple.
Looking ahead, McAuliffe has
already announced plans to
introduce 2 new color series
blends.
Guys want to guess what it is?
Guess the colors.
One or the other 8?
Well, they've done purple.
Yes, I just listed the three
that they've already done, so
it's not one of those.
Purple, red and blue.
No, they don't agree.
I want to know the two new ones,
not the.
One.
What are the three they did?
I just said it.
You should've been listening.
It's going to be yellow.
Texting Preston.
Yeah, I miss you already.
Green they're going to do.
Green they've.
Already done, green.
OK, yellow.
Already done yellow you.
Didn't say that.
Already done red, purple.
Yeah, I've already done purple.
Purple was the last new one.
OK.
Great.
It's orange and white, you guys,
I mean.
Well, why don't we just let us
get?
There each in the new world,
because you were guessing the
colors they've already had,
because you didn't listen when I
was talking before.
Because you talk a lot.
That's the that's a podcast we
kind of have.
To yeah, you're you're stuck.
We'll just all sit here the rest
of the show, not.
I don't have to.
I can just let you talk
sometimes.
Not talk.
You know, you've attacked me
several Times Now.
I'm now I'm shutting down.
That's what happens.
Oh great, how both they're both
shutting down.
That's what happens when you
when.
You shut down, then we're going
to have 20 minutes of nothing.
Bummer.
Don't let it.
Don't let this happen.
That's how Preston moves in.
Hey, thanks so much for doing
the flag football thing.
I need you to stay for the Cigar
Podcast.
Just read off this teleprompter.
Yeah, just just sit down.
That's.
Fine, Palmer, I need to put his
hat on.
Yeah.
Where those?
At Palmer, update the
teleprompter.
Each and the new Gordos will
carry an MSRP of 10/29 will be
packaged in 20 count boxes,
keeping the pricing competitive
for a large format Cigar.
Blend wise, the McAuliffe Black
Gordo features a Mexican San
Andreas rapper and Ecuadorian
Habano binder and Nicaraguan
filler tobaccos.
The Mccauliff Red Gordo uses a
Mexican San Andreas Urbana
wrapper, Pennsylvania broad leaf
binder grown in Nicaragua, and a
filler blend of Mexican and
Nicaraguan tobaccos.
This isn't the first time
Mccauliff has leaned into retail
exclusives.
In late 2024, the company
released a soft box pressed Toro
in its black blend exclusively
for Abe down at Smoke in,
followed by similar exclusives
in the blue and red lines.
Is now.
Mccauliff has not publicly
commented on any other new
releases they see.
The cigars starting Wednesday,
January 24th will be available.
So who's in charge of that
company now?
Mccauliff.
That old guy.
It's the sis.
Is it still the old guy or is it
the daughter?
Yeah, I didn't know if the girl
do.
I see the girl with a lot more
advertising stuff now.
Well, that's Lauren.
She's their salesperson.
Salesperson.
You talking about her?
Yeah, that's their salesperson.
OK, that makes sense.
Do you have a problem with?
Lauren Cooper, I think her name
is.
You got a problem with Garofalo
having an exclusive?
No, not at all.
It's just news.
No, he he normally has excuses
with.
No, I like that with McAuliffe,
right?
Yeah.
And I'm pretty sure Santa Maria.
I'm pretty sure he's handling
distro for him now.
Oh, is it?
Oh, is he?
Yeah.
That I don't know.
Yeah, I think that's the case.
I can find out.
I know the the sales lady.
I think he's doing distro.
I'm not positive, but I think he
is.
I can find out.
Who are?
You going to call Mikey?
No, I'm going to ask my friend
Lauren.
She's in the sales managers club
thing we do.
There you go.
They're tight.
Oh, OK.
OK, so they're they're really
sorry.
It's a cigar.
It'll be online.
It'll be in their store.
Right, except for Illinois,
you're not shipping it except.
For Illinois, yeah.
You can't sell it online.
Well, that hasn't gone into
effect yet, and it doesn't sound
like July.
They don't even.
It doesn't even have any teeth
yet.
There's nobody behind it.
No, but David Garofalo likes to
plan ahead.
He's very advanced in his
marketing and sales.
Yeah, you think so?
Yeah, OK.
Except picking up our line.
It took a little while for us to
get that in there, but it's fine
now though we're.
Rolling now, baby, Rolling.
Everybody's rolling now.
Two guys go check out two guys.
All right.
Cao Flathead.
Speed shop Habano.
Speed Shop Habano.
It's shipping in February so
it's not that fast.
Not well.
It's next month.
Yeah, but it's only January 5th,
6th, whatever it is.
Co Flathead line, which General
Cigar Company says is the best
selling Cao line is getting
another sub brand.
I believe that.
Next month, the company will
introduce the Cao Flathead Speed
Shop Habano, which uses an
Ecuadorian Habano.
Oh, that works out well, right
over at Mexican San Andreas
Binder and fillers from the
Dominican Republic and
Nicaragua.
It's offered in three vitolas.
The speed Shop 6 1/2 by 54.
Oh, it's called the crankshaft.
Sorry.
The carb 6 by 60.
The big block 770.
Pricing starts at 899, goes to
1099 per cigar.
Each vitola has an engine themed
name.
General says the 6 1/2 by 54
vitola is the new one for the
Flathead brand, which debuted in
2013.
The number one selling brand and
CEO.
Flathead has earned his
reputation through bold
character and unmistakable
style, said Corey Beardsley,
brand manager for Cao.
Think he works for Justin or
Justin works for him?
Are they equal level?
Everybody works for Justin.
Justin's bigger than you
realized.
Justin's.
Well, I that's why I'm asking.
I but probably works for.
I think his title is brand
manager too, isn't?
It for diesel, yeah, Yeah.
But I think that he handles
more.
I mean, Justin may have blended
the cigar.
Yeah, Justin is the guy, one of
the guys.
Yeah, well, he's very busy the.
Only problem with being the guy
and being big on the totem pole
is when the Christmas party
comes around you got to start
dodging.
People feed the growth with the
biggest amount.
You gotta.
You can't be around too much
there.
That's probably why he takes
vacation around that time.
Yeah, he's like, oh, I'm, I'm
not I.
Can't go to the meeting, can't
go to the Christmas party.
I'm.
Going to wait.
I'm going to keep stay low until
this thing blows over.
I have this certain type of
meeting over at Pastagna I got
to go to now.
Yeah, no, he never.
He never comes to see us.
That might be the only time when
he's trying to get away from the
Christmas.
Party.
Yeah, because nobody's going to
look for him here, right?
Nobody comes here.
Make him Co host.
Right.
Oh that would be nice with the
sport guns.
Hi, I'm Justin.
Oh, I would have so much fun
with that one.
Yeah.
All right, now it's time for a
mini game of What's the score?
Right through that man, you were
quick.
Well, you guys aren't going to
do it.
Any He's very angry about
Preston today.
What's going?
On I'm not angry.
I like Preston, Yeah.
Me too.
I know, we all know you do.
It is I sparkle when you would
say his name.
Did you see that?
Too bad we can't like zoom in.
So you really see that that
light over there that we forgot
to unscrew the bulb catches the
sparkle when you say its.
Name.
Go ahead, Palmer said.
Just or I can't think of his
name now.
Justin.
I got stuck in Justin Preston.
Oh.
He's squinting.
He tried to splint.
Did you?
Would you have it on then?
Do you have the camera?
Yeah, I had an auto.
I had an auto.
It's nice. 47 minutes.
I'll zoom in, maybe put a little
sparkle in there.
All right, this cigar from
November 6, 2017, Brooks
Whittington cigars.
It's a Redux Roma craft to back
Wonderlust.
Oh.
Robusto.
OK, who's first?
90 I am.
He probably knows this.
I thought about that when I did
it, but it was a long time ago.
91.
All right, so Wunderlo's robusto
from Nicaragua Fabricate
Tobacco, Nicosia, Brazilian
Modafina, Indonesian Bousuki, no
filler not available.
It's a 5 by 50 robusto.
They only you don't care the
price anyway.
Let's say they only have
international numbers and then
they only did one cigar because
it's a redux. 90.
Great, he knows the number.
It's a great cigar. 91.
The Wanderlust Robusto delivers
a bold, layered flavor profile
right from the start, led by
bitter dark chocolate and creamy
cashews with supporting notes of
espresso cinnamon oak that
evolved beautifully through the
smoke.
The developing cotton candy
sweetness adds unique and
memorable contrast without
overwhelming the profile. 90. 1.
He said 91 he gave.
A1 Did you hear that?
No 91.
I said 90 and he said one. 91 He
meant 91.
He meant one.
OK, next time you say 91 just to
keep in.
That construction is excellent
across the board, with a near
razor sharp burn, dense smoke
production and a draw that
offers just the right amount of
resistance.
Even as the strength builds
toward full in the final third,
the cigar remains balanced and
controlled throughout the entire
smoking time. 90. 91 while the
flavor.
Progression is engaging.
The cotton candy sweetness peaks
around midpoint and gradually
fades in the final third,
leaving the profile slightly
less distinctive as the
aggressive tongue spice and salt
in his briefly take over before
tapering off 90. 91.
I was impressed with the
Wunderlust robusto when I first
reviewed it and I am not
impressed with it now.
Oh, I am impressed.
Sorry, I am impressed with it
now.
That's a big difference.
Yeah, yeah, it's a big
difference, right, Albeit for
total different reasons.
When I smoked it in 2016
version, the profile was full of
a new rich, distinct flavor, but
was not overly complex.
This time around that has
shifted and the blend was
complex, has a complexity to
spare.
While the meatiness that I
noticed in my first review was
still present, there were a
multitude of flavors that over
shown it, including bitter, dark
chocolate, salty cashews and
cotton candy sweetness that hit
its high point just after the
halfway mark.
While the overall strength of
the Wanderlust Robusto has
increased a bit, the balance and
the blend that impressed me the
first time around was
unaffected, leaving me no choice
but to once again recommend a
cigar to anyone who can find
them. 90.
He knows the number 91.
So 92.
Oh, I win.
There you go.
All right, now wait.
The original score is different
than the score.
What's the original?
I'm not telling you we're
playing again.
Same things but I thought.
You said a mini game.
It is a mini game.
You're not getting descriptions,
you're just going to guess the
score. 90. 91. 93.
Yes, I won again.
It is the year of boots.
Yes.
That's the year of boots.
Year of boots he's won two days
in a row.
Days in a row.
On his wife.
I will not be here tomorrow.
Are you going to announce the
guest?
Host.
I do, yes.
All right, Our guest host
tomorrow will be La Ream.
Oh, is he in town?
Camacho cigars?
Yes.
I don't know.
I don't know if he's in town or
not, but I text him said hey,
you going to be around?
He goes yes.
Oh well, yes, I guess he's
still.
Here he has a good time man.
He's a great Co host.
Yeah, yeah, he does good.
It'll be good to mix him in
perfect and he says he's got a
surprise for me.
You told them there would be two
of us here, right?
No.
Wow.
See, Palmer, this is it.
This is.
It But if Preston was here, I'd
tell them that there would be
two of us.
Right, of course you would.
Yeah.
All right.
Anybody got anything else?
That's it.
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Show Notes
One Todays Show Mcdonalds is being sued in a class action law suit, You can’t Hide Your Gun in your Boobs in Polk County, JD Vance Is Breaking Glass then in cigars Illinois is not online friendly ,two guys got another exclusive cigar! And CAO is moving fast to a new cigar! Then a mini what’s the score! All this and more on episode 442 of a cigar hustlers podcast!