ACHP Episode 443 "Amazon Prime Pays Off Big"

Transcript

It is Wednesday.

Welcome to a Cigar Hustlers

podcast, episode 443.

I'm not Mike Palmer.

I'm La Reem of Davidoff cigars,

the Camacho ambassador, the

Camacho man.

This is my coming out.

The is this is your coming out,

coming out.

We haven't even announced it at

like to the employees of

Davodoff.

No kidding.

Yeah.

Well, I 'cause I just saw a clip

with you.

I think you're on like simply

stogies or something and you're

and you're in all yellow.

I'm like, wait a second, I know

that you're now.

Now look at.

You.

Yeah, It was a week ago too.

Yeah.

Was it just a week ago?

Yep.

December 30th.

You came in on your Harley.

Look at you.

You're, you're, you're, you.

Look, you look so much, you

know, so much more intimidating

now.

Like I feel obligated to buy

Camacho from you.

This, this brand.

I feel like this brand.

Brand is me.

This is you.

I am law.

I love it.

All right, so you're officially

the Camacho.

What?

Brand Activation Manager.

Oh, you are the and Jack has

moved up somewhere.

Product manager, so that he

actually runs like the whole

marketing department.

Oh, really?

Yeah, He just stepped in and

took over like it was

impressive.

No kidding.

Yeah.

Which sucks 'cause he's not

funny anymore.

He's just so he's so busy now.

He was so funny when he when he

had no responsibility.

He was pretty funny.

Yeah.

We'll have to bring that back.

We'll have to get it from him.

So all right, continue.

I.

Lost a bet with the money makers

so here I am.

Oh my goodness, I.

Don't know what that means.

OK, so Boots here is the is he's

got a group of people called the

money makers and they bet

together whatever.

And he always says that he's

made like a ton of money.

However, whenever we talk about

him picking a bet, there's like

a 80% chance that it loses.

So we're so confused as to how

he's made money on the money

makers and like and like the

ongoing bet is like Santa Claus

was here.

Santa Claus had to show up

because he bet with the money

makers, and because he lost, he

had to show up.

So because you bet with the

money makers and you lost, you

have to.

Here you are.

This is the punishment.

This is the punishment, yeah.

You need to up your punishments

you.

Need to do better.

Today with me in engineering is

boots.

I love Zion cigars.

Hippelhauser.

Hello.

He loves.

Yeah.

See, you're so new to the.

He's so the Camacho thing is so

fresh.

Yeah.

That Palmer didn't even have you

identified as And he wrote Zion,

not Zion.

Well, that was probably by

design.

OK, you say Zion cigars.

Yeah, you know, that's probably

by design.

Well, Paul, he he normally

spells things wrong.

I don't think it's by design, I

think it's just how it happened.

I hear Zionism is pretty popular

these days.

So Zeno.

Very good.

It's very good.

And my Co host, Mr. Mike Preston

of Cigar Hustler welcome.

Wow.

So Preston is a buddy of mine

who's doing a a flag football

thing.

He runs the league and we've

been working on a podcast with

him.

So Palmer is jealous of my

relationship with with Preston.

You got a new mic in your life.

Yes, yes, well, his name is

Preston.

But yes, I do have a new mic I

guess a a a younger, more

athletic younger.

Better who upgraded to the new

model?

Yes.

Well, Preston Preston's his

first name.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's hilarious actually.

I love how Palmer just keeps it

rolling.

He's not letting a lie.

It's, you know, it's funny.

You like, you can tell when it

bothers him because he will.

He'll just beat it into the

ground.

Palmer's not here.

The episode's all about him.

That's it pretty much on today's

show, Amazon Prime just got way

better.

I woman in Thailand got hot

under the collar.

OK, Is that like an iPhone?

I woman, I guess a woman in

Thailand.

A woman.

Got hotter under the collar.

He doesn't check these things,

Yeah.

Did Palmer drive through

Lakeland today?

It's not far from here.

Then in cigars, someone releases

something new.

Pro Cigar has a new program, and

then La Ream is going to Manila.

Oh no, I've been to Manila.

Have you?

Yeah, I spent a year in the

Philippines.

In the military, or what was

that like?

Greatest year of my life,

really.

Philippines.

Yeah.

Oh yeah.

All the military guys like the

Philippines.

Oh yeah.

He didn't come back with a wife,

though.

I did not because one of our

guys did.

Yeah, he married one of the

girls he met in a girl bar where

you can purchase girls.

No way, that's crazy.

He's in prison now and his name

is Mike.

Well, listen, it's a common

name.

I don't know, I'll tell ya.

Look, we all don't have cool

nicknames, Law.

You know what I mean?

I mean he.

Had he had a few nicknames?

Yeah, dude, this girl was like,

she would hug him and then like

blow kisses at us over his

shoulder and we're like, why?

Why are you marrying this

prostitute?

It's not OK.

This is not OK.

They're.

Still together.

Even though he's in prison,

they're still together.

Really.

Yeah.

Must be true love.

See, you never know.

You never know.

You never know.

Turns out she was great wife

material.

That's why I love the

Philippines.

Even their prostitutes are

better wives than here.

Oh, my goodness.

OK, All right, So what else you

got?

Let's go.

Before we get started, Preston,

I mean Mikey, how does Preston

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And you're smoking the war bear.

You got it with a name like War

Bear?

Yes, it's my first time.

Last that's that's our latest

release, our latest size of it.

This is I love.

What kind of is this?

It's not a perfecto, is it?

It's a grand perfecto.

Grand Perfecto.

I like the size.

It's gigantic.

You get that, like that thick

cigar, like goodness in the

middle.

But you don't feel like you

have, you know, something in

your mouth you don't want on

your mouth.

That's gigantic.

Something a little too large,

yeah.

Yeah, man.

And this, this blend was a

little bit softer than our our

other ones because our other

sizes have been a little bit

smaller, but it's it's tracking

extremely well.

And then we put it in.

We had these metal cases made

here in the States and we put

them on top of the boxes.

And then we had them, Sarah

coated with like military colors

or whatever, black and so.

Military.

Fatigue.

Thank you.

And then we have a hole on it so

you can hang it up when it's

done.

Nice.

Yeah, That's that's good

thinking.

Yeah, it's the Camacho way.

I mean, it's the Postonia way,

so yeah.

Camacho, we just, we just put in

nice lacquered boxes, yes.

Lots of scorpions, lots of

scorpions, lots of scorpions and

scorpion.

Yeah.

So.

OK, actually, I'm hosting the

Camp Camacho tours this year.

Yeah, so we have, we have

unlimited alcohol in the house

and a tattoo artist there all

day long.

So you can get a tattoo no

matter what mental state you're

in.

And it's free.

Whatever tattoo you want.

The only rule is one person.

It's not.

You can't get a tattoo until

somebody gets a scorpion

tattooed on themselves, the

Camacho scorpion.

Then after that everyone gets a

free tattoo.

All tattoos, yeah.

So do you just bring Jack down?

He just keeps going.

He just keeps getting more and

more Camacho tattoos.

I mean, Jack's got the most

Camacho of Camacho.

You know, he got that like six

years before he worked for

Davidoff.

He got the Scorpion tramp stamp.

It's like he put it in his

brain, you know what I mean?

Like it was like his vision

board was his tramp stamp area.

I mean, once, yeah, once.

He woke up in the morning.

He's like, why does my back hurt

so much?

He's like, oh shit, I got to get

a job at Camacho now.

And now look at him product yada

yada.

Product manager, yeah, yeah,

it's it's a big position.

He controls all Camacho,

everything for the US.

Yeah, yeah.

So can we still like Apple Pay

request $5000 to him?

Have you ever have you heard

about this?

No.

Oh yeah dude you should.

You need to ask him for like 5

GS see if he pays.

Don't.

Don't say anything, just send it

to him.

Did you tell him you were going

to give him 5000 and you

requested 5?

1000 just you just ask, you just

ask.

This is the thing that he does,

I guess, to a couple people.

So.

So if you send it to him now,

you're in on the on the whole

thing.

Nice.

OK, I'm going to do that right

after the show.

I could use 5 grand.

He's making more money now.

We could all use 5 grand.

I mean, you know, yeah, if he

sends it, you got to cut me at

least just 10%.

I mean, cause at least I, I

arranged it.

I feel like that's reasonable.

500 bucks.

That's, that's fair.

All right.

It's a pretty big comeuppance.

And now the news.

Amazon customers can now file

claims for compensation under

$2.5 billion FTC settlement

Millions of Amazon customers in

the United States can now file

claims to compensation as part

of a historic $2.5 billion

settlement with the Federal

Trade Commission over deceptive

practices tied to its Prime

membership program.

The settlement, reached in 2025,

resolved an FTC lawsuit that

alleged Amazon used a

manipulative enrollment designed

to sign customers up for Prime

without clear consent.

You gotta have consent and make

cancellation.

Unless you're in the

Philippines, apparently.

Funny story about that later.

As part of the deal, Amazon

agreed to pay 1 billion civil

penalty and return 1.5 billion

to those affected.

Automatic refunds of up to

$51.00 were issued to eligible

customers between November

December 2025, either by check

or electronic transfer through

services like PayPal and Venmo.

Those refunds typically went

through customers who enrolled

through a certain challenged

enrollment flows or who use

three or fewer Prime benefits in

a 12 month period.

Who uses fewer prime benefits in

in less than a 12 month period?

Yeah, especially around

Christmas time.

Are you?

Kidding me dude, that there's

packages at the front door

almost every goddamn day.

Maybe maybe people that like box

stores or some, I don't know.

That's a good question.

People like box stores, people

like the the inconvenience of

going to a place.

There's some people that just

want to, you know, support those

type of things and not support

online.

Well, I mean, I get it if it's a

small it's like a mom and pop

store.

I understand that.

But like, well, I'm not if I'm

comparing if I'm going Walmart

or Amazon.

Right.

Yeah, it's the same thing.

Yeah, it's, you know, they're

they're 2 mega corporations, so

like, whatever, but all right.

But is that the end of the story

or what is he on?

No, there's more.

OK, continue Now.

Customers who did not receive an

automatic refund but are still

eligible can begin the claims

process.

Notices with instructions on how

to file will be sent by e-mail

or mail by January 23rd, and

recipients will have 180 days

from that date of notice to

submit their claim forms.

Eligibility generally covers

Prime members who signed up

between June 20, June 23rd, 2019

and June 23rd, 2025.

I signed up in like 2011.

Yeah, right.

So if you didn't sign up in that

window, you're you're not

eligible.

You're Sol.

It's 51 bucks.

Yeah, you're gonna.

Spend like an hour filling out

the claim.

Yeah.

And then they send the check

like 4 years later.

Yeah, this is definitely

designed so that you don't do

it, you know?

No, all these, all these

lawsuits are the, the law firm

wins, right?

And then the Federal Trade

Commission gets more spending

budget, right?

That's, that's it.

Like the consumers never win.

Yeah, what, are you going to get

your 50 bucks back if you do?

Everything perfect?

Well, the membership's like 140

bucks or something, really.

Yeah, so.

You're not even getting 50%

back.

Right.

All right.

We're going to give you $51.

Like that's the, this is the

number that we've determined as

OK.

I mean, Jeff Bezos could

probably pay everybody back

their $51 and not bat an eye,

you know what I mean?

Yeah, he'll make it back in an

hour.

Right.

How many Amazon members are in

the USI mean you know.

That's a great question.

You guys keep talking, I'll find

out.

OK.

Oh, yeah.

That's, I want to know that.

Multiply that by the $120.00 fee

or whatever it is, and that's

just free money, right?

Yeah.

And we have now this is more.

There's a little bit more to

this story, but it's that's it.

That's pretty much it, yeah.

OK.

So I mean, yeah, Amazon Prime,

whatever it like if I got a

note, if you received the

notification today, hey, you're

eligible for this $51 return,

but you need to fill out this

information, you need to submit

all the stuff.

Would you do it?

They said there's about 180

million Amazon Prime members

that you.

Use 180 million.

It's 180 million * 120.

A ton of money.

This is just what they're all

not Prime members.

Times 120 yeah 2.16 E 10 so

there's an error in there.

Well, EE means the number just

keeps going.

Yeah, so it's over over 2

billion, right, 2.16.

I think that's trillion.

That would be trillion.

Is it?

There's no way it's.

Trillion.

There's 10 zeros there, no?

Well, you said 180 million.

No company makes over a trillion

a year.

No, it's, it's, it's 21, it's 21

billion if everybody had. 21

billion.

So they're making so that's not

even their, their like money

maker, that's not their

breadwinner.

It's the Amazon Web Services.

They pretty much, they host all

websites pretty much.

So they host pretty much

everything for the US

government.

We found out they host like,

what was it, all the airlines

computers?

No kidding.

Yeah, and now they're fighting

with the USPS.

Are they like, yeah, we they

didn't want to agree to the

contract or whatever.

Like, Oh well, you know, if

we're not exclusive, we're going

to look around and do other

options.

Well, I think I think the USPS

is fine with everybody.

Right, 'cause UPS.

That's the whole point, right?

That's what USPS is supposed to

be.

They're supposed to be an option

for all, right?

It's a government funded program

that's supposed to be keep

everyone else at Bay, yeah.

Right.

And then Amazon's like casually

flexing on them.

Like, I don't know.

I don't know if it's going to be

for everybody, like, wait a

second.

Yeah.

Doesn't even make any sense.

OK.

All right, hit us with the next

one.

Dead Thai woman wakes up inside

coffin moments before cremation.

Oh my God, that's a good story.

That is a great story.

It's a horrible story.

A woman in Thailand who had been

pronounced dead shock temple

temple staff.

They do cremations in temples

like Buddhist temples.

I guess.

After waking up inside her

coffin just moments before, she

was due to be cremated.

The incident occurred at Watrat

Promtam, a Buddhist temple

located outside Bangkok.

Temple workers say they were

preparing for the creation

ceremony when they suddenly

heard knocking and muffled

sounds coming from inside the

sealed coffin.

Oh God.

Startled staff immediately

stopped the proceedings, opened

the casket, where they found the

woman alive but weak and

disoriented.

Emergency services were called

and the woman was rushed to a

nearby hospital for treatment.

Her current condition has not

been publicly disclosed.

According to local reports, the

woman had been declared dead

earlier after showing no signs

of life through.

Though officials have not yet

clarified what medical checks

were performed before her death

was certified.

Authorities are now

investigating whether the

incident was caused by a

misdiagnosis, a rare medical

condition, or human error.

Cases like this, while extremely

rare, have occurred in different

parts of the world and often

involve conditions such as

catalepsy or extremely low vital

signs that can mimic death.

For the Temple staff and the

woman's family, the moment was

nothing short of miraculous,

turning what's supposed to be a

final farewell into a dramatic

rescue just seconds before it

was too late.

There's a lot to unpack in that

story.

You think it's real?

The story can.

Be.

Yeah.

OK, yeah.

So here's what I think it might

be.

Bullshit.

OK, OK then.

Person of the name was not

mentioned, the age of the person

was not mentioned.

And Palmer's evil, so it's and

we were talking about being

buried alive before.

Oh yeah.

So it's possible that it's a

real story, yeah, but I don't

know, he might just be messing

with us.

Oh yeah, 'cause we.

Were like major points of the

story that we're like, what?

What was her original cause of

death?

What was the original like?

Did she take something?

Did she get hit by something?

Was she dismembered like?

Kind of all vaguely.

Yeah, very vague.

Feels very AI to me.

This is the This is the

retaliation for the new friend.

But not only do I have to watch

and look on social media for

what's AI and what's fake, I

also have to pay attention to

what's fake with.

Palmer's Palmer.

Because he released the show, he

released a news article that was

totally like fake about cigars,

but a cigar is being released at

midnight at specific time.

But he didn't mention the name

and the people were involved or

whatever and it was a completely

fake article.

Wow.

Yeah, Is there not enough good

news lately?

Like.

I think that he likes to do this

every once in a while to kind of

screw with us.

Yeah, and screw with the

audience, see if the audience

catches up.

I know that he talked about last

time he mentioned something

about Coast Guards being fired

upon or something like that.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Hector said that he couldn't

find any article about that

Hector from Espinoza.

Yeah, I didn't.

He's like, I didn't hear about

that anywhere.

Yeah, you would hear about that.

Well.

No 'cause they they get fired

upon when they're doing drug

interdictions.

That's kind of a normal thing.

That's what he's stating, yeah.

So it could be real, could be

real, could be fake.

Could be fake.

It could be a fake.

Would would you be OK being

buried alive for like a contest?

For a contest, You know, back

when I was in the military, we.

Were buried alive.

We had to go through SEER

training which is POW school.

Pretty much survival school

mixed with POW school.

Right?

And part of one of the tortures

was being buried underground in

a box.

Back then I slept like a baby.

It was great.

I heard people screaming around

me but I was like this is great.

This is quiet now in my older

years.

Like I I'm getting more

claustrophobic as I get older.

You get anxiety kind of inches

up on you as you get older.

Yeah, yeah.

So yeah, now, like without being

like if I wasn't able to itch my

nose or stretch or anything, I'd

probably go insane.

Won't.

Let me out so you don't think

you can get you can revert back

to the I'm in peace.

No, wouldn't happen.

No, I don't think so.

Like I get colossal public on

planes now if like you know how

they have that like 1 aisle that

doesn't have a window and it's

like the bulkhead comes in.

I had a 17 hour flight from

Dubai to Miami really.

And I, they gave me that seat

and I was like this and I

freaked out.

I was like, I need another seat

right now.

I was like, I used to be this

total badass in the military, No

Fear of anything.

And now I can't even sit on a

plane without freaking out.

I got to go.

Yeah, I think that was probably

probably the first time I ever

had like a panic attack or any

type of anxiety.

That was like the first time I

identified it was like I was

trying to get off a plane and I

was stuck by the window and like

no one was moving and I started

to freak out a little bit.

I'm like, what is going on here?

You know?

So now you know, I've, I've, I

have found that the best way to

offset that is through conflict.

So now I get up and I block

everybody and people get mad at

me and I'm like, we all want to

get off the plane.

Let's all be civil.

If you have a problem with it, I

am right here to answer your

problem.

You know what I mean.

Solve this problem right now

like World Star, Yeah.

I'm not moving but I'm usually

very polite.

I'm like, I'm sorry but no.

However, I did have one person

where he jumped in front.

And I said to him, like, dude,

like, what's wrong with you?

You know?

And then he didn't get his

package, like his his baggage.

And he left his girlfriend

behind.

Wow.

So he made it all the way out

and I wouldn't let her go,

right?

And I saw him as we got off I

go, you did all of that and you

had to stand here and wait.

Anyways, I'm like, does that did

that make any sense, bro?

Like just chill out and be

civil.

He held his girlfriend captive.

I did.

And his bag.

I did and his bag.

You're getting nothing like good

job SO.

I bet you he doesn't do that

anymore.

I hope not.

Either that or he puts his bag

in like first class on his way

back to his coach seat.

Which?

Would be smart yeah.

I mean, I, you know what, you,

you hope that like you, you, you

inspire some type of change

where, you know, the guy.

I mean, he was a younger kid,

dude.

And I've done plenty of dumb

shit as a kid.

Yeah.

I mean, I probably just still do

dumb shit as an adult, you know?

But I, you try and learn from

him and hopefully this kid did

learn from it.

He's like, I should just be a

good person all the time, you

know, like.

I mean, when, when you're in

your 20s, there's you have no

chance of being a good person

all the time.

No, not even close.

And it's understandable, you

know.

You're just ignorant.

The problem is, though, when

you're 70 or 60 or whatever and

you're no, and you're still not

a good person, you're not

changing like you're set in your

ways, like you're going to

continue to do that whatever

thing is, you know, and no one's

going to, you're never going to

reflect and like, oh, I should

not throw my stuff everywhere in

public.

I should pick, you know, like I

should throw things out, you

know, whatever.

It should be a decent member of

society.

Yeah, that that's out the door.

You're not.

You're not about to change.

Yeah, no.

And when, when I would fly into

Iraq, like when I was

contracting, we would take

commercial airlines.

Everybody was standing before

the plane landed, before you

touch ground, everyone standing

like all, all the Iraqis, they

all get up and they're just

like, they're even pushing each

other to the side really before

the rubber ever meets the

runway.

How is that OK?

How is that allowed?

Nope, you can't touch the

religion.

You can't touch them.

Like you can't even pat the

women down.

I remember they were doing bomb

checks and they were patting

this woman in a a burka down and

all the men freaked out and

like, don't you touch her?

I'm like, that's going to be the

one with the bomb though.

Like if your laws say you can't

touch her, that's where you put

the bomb.

Here's where we're going to arm.

We're going to give it to her.

Don't touch that woman.

And by the way, what are you

doing letting her fly anyway?

She has no rights.

Yeah, right.

She has to run next to the

plane.

I mean, what the hell?

It's really another funny story.

I'm full of them.

I know I was excited.

For you to come on.

I was in Dubai at the Atlantis

water Park and I'm I'm in the

lazy river drinking a beer and

next to me is this big old fat

hairy guy in a Speedo, like

just, you know, everything's

hanging out.

And his wife next to him also in

a, in a tube in full burqa, like

just the nothing but the

Iceland.

And she's having a time of her

life.

Right, this is the best that.

Was like the juxtaposition of

him with barely covering his

junk and her only not covering.

Her eyes.

You could see her eyes.

Yeah, that's wild.

She's like the best day of my

life.

This is the greatest day ever.

Well, because every other day

you know is miserable for her.

Whatever.

Allegedly, Whatever you know.

I've always said if, if the

women in Iraq do like most of

the manual labor, so they're

bigger and stronger than the

men.

So I've always said like if, if

the women just like Rose up,

they can take over the country

in one day.

If they got tired of the you

know what, enough of this shit,

right?

You know we're going to stone

you.

Yeah, they do all the farming

work and everything.

They were like, yeah, they're

big.

That's wild.

Oh my God.

All right, hit us with the next

one.

Lakeland traffic stop leads to

discovery of Perihuana and

thousands in cash.

Marijuana, marijuana

paraphernalia.

It's like a mix between

paraphernalia and marijuana.

A routine traffic stop in

Lakeland quickly escalated into

a major drug investigation after

officers uncovered 250 grams of

a substance known as Perihuana.

Oh, it's a thing.

I don't know 'cause it wasn't

the the preliminary title to

this.

Palmer drives through Lakeland.

Yes, OK, true.

So this is a true story I.

Don't know.

Marijuana, along with thousands

of dollars in cash, according to

local law enforcement.

Police say the stop occurred

after officers observed a

traffic violation and made

contact with the driver.

During the interaction, officers

noted behavior they described as

suspicious, describes Palmer,

prompting a more thorough

investigation of the vehicle.

That search reportedly led to a

discovery of the parijuana, a

drug authorities say is often

marketed as marijuana

alternative but can contain

dangerous synthetic compounds

along with a large sum of cash

believed to be tied to the

illegal drug distribution.

Well, it's not marijuana.

How is it illegal?

Yeah, that's true, unless it's

some kind of mixture of drugs

that aren't permitted.

Yeah, well, we're saying it's a

derivative like it like it has

it in.

It does have marijuana in it,

but it has something else, like

lakes with fentanyl or

something, yeah.

Investigators say substances

like Para juana are especially

concerning because they are

frequently unregulated,

mislabeled and unpredictable,

posing serious health risks to

users.

So it is unregulated.

Yeah.

So it's not illegal.

Yeah, but it's not regulated.

So this guy has done nothing

wrong at this point.

Well, no, I guess cocaine's

unregulated and that's illegal.

Is he Venezuelan?

Yeah, right.

Is, is that why we we, is that

why we got their president?

Exactly.

It's not your real drugs.

It's your fake drugs.

Yeah.

We're we're, we're more

concerned about the fake stuff

that you're bringing in.

Law enforcement agencies across

Florida have warned that these

products are often sold under

misleading names to skirt drug

laws while delivering far more

potent offers Offers.

Wait, I scrolled too fast

Effects.

Potent effects.

The driver was taken into

custody and now faces multiple

charges, including drug

trafficking related offenses.

Authorities have not released

the suspect's identity pending

formal court proceedings.

Officials say the case

underscores how routine traffic

enforcement can lead to

significant criminal

discoveries, and they are

continuing to investigate

whether the drugs and cash are

connected to a larger

distribution operation in the

region.

This region.

As always, police are reminding

the public to avoid synthetic

substances and report suspicious

activities to local authorities.

Mikey, do you have a video?

Do you have a video of you in

Preston?

I do not have a video.

I do not have a video.

Do you have a video today,

Bootsy?

I mean I have some videos but

you can't post them.

Do you want 1?

Palmer sent me one.

Sure.

Did he really send you one?

No, I haven't talked to Palmer

at all.

I mean, I, I have like a video

from last night.

I was watching on TikTok and it

was like this video of, of the

Venezuelan president being

captured, but it had like Dave

Chappelle on his stuff.

I mean, it's a little, you know.

Yeah, edgy.

We've kind of already addressed

the Venezuelan thing, like I'm

moving on.

Yeah, you know.

Yeah, yeah, it's old news.

No, he's talking about that.

You know, we're already talking

about Greenland now.

Yeah, we're on to the Greenland

President.

Are we taking that back?

We.

We we can't buy it, so we're

going to.

Before Trump was president, he

was campaigning on buying

Greenland.

Yeah, I remember that.

Yeah, so I guess he can't buy

it, so he's just going to take

it now.

I I have no idea.

Yeah, they're doing illegal

operations.

We're taking it.

I don't think that they're, I

don't think that we can just

take it.

I don't know.

That sounds like a bit of a

little bit of an overreach if

you ask me.

Like people live there, you know

what I mean?

Like I mean.

Like 50,000 people live there.

Yeah, that's it.

It's a.

Very small population.

So, so so because it's a small

number, it's fine.

Yeah, it's a massive, massive.

It's a continent.

It's by itself.

I guess no, no, no, it's not a.

Continent.

You can just say it's a

territory.

Yeah, it's a massive territory.

It's huge.

But yeah, there's like the

people eat whale blubber there.

There's not much going on the.

People eat whale blubber.

So have you been to Greenland?

No, no, I saw a really good

episode of.

South Park.

No, who is the that late night

host?

The ginger?

Oh, Conan.

Conan.

O'Brien oh when he would travel

the.

World and he went there and it

was that guy's gold man.

He's he's the best.

He's hilarious.

I don't understand how he lost

his job as a late night host.

He was hilarious.

I think he just got bored of it,

wanted to do something else.

I think it was more of the the

network he was on, you know?

Yeah, TNT.

Yeah, it wasn't as watched as

the other ones.

Yeah, he got.

He got.

Was it him that got screwed over

by Jay Leno?

Like he was writing for Jay Leno

and then he was supposed to take

over the Jay Leno show and then

Jay Leno was like the year he

was supposed to take over.

He was like, yeah, never mind,

I'm staying.

I don't.

I don't want to go.

Anywhere.

I think.

I think so and.

That's when Conan left to do his

own show.

I need more cars.

I'm not leaving.

Did you did you see the video

clip with him?

And there's another comedian

they talk about when his parents

died, when Conan Ryan's parents

died.

So oh dude, I'm going to totally

bash this.

I'm going to mess this up, but

but it's it was hilarious so.

What?

You can't retell a joke like a

Harvard educated comedian.

No, not even close.

So his dad dies and one and one

of his buddies reached out and

said, hey, man, sorry for your,

sorry for your loss.

And he writes back, I think

Bateman's involved.

So talk.

And he's like, OK, you know, so

like Jason Bateman.

Yeah, 'cause they're like a

group of these three friends.

And then and then, and then like

quickly thereafter, his mother

passes.

So like, they had it back and

forth making jokes about it or

whatever.

And then his mom passes and then

this guy texts him and he's

like, hey, Bateman's asking for

your sister's address.

Like, like, I was like, sorry

for like, like he's out there

just picking off his entire

family.

And he writes back like, laugh

out loud.

That's hilarious.

And then he gives the address

and he says make it look like a

burglary.

So you really got to watch this

video clip.

It's hilarious, dude.

It's just funny because it's

like, you know, it's just guys

having fun, you know, like in

dark moments, like that's pretty

funny, man.

That's pretty good.

That's where my that's how I

cope with bad news.

Like when I was deployed, we

lost one of our the, the best

guy on our team.

Like he was the conflict

resolution guy.

He was the funny guy.

Like he kept us.

He was the glue that kept us not

from not killing each other.

Right.

And so he he died on our

deployment.

And when we were celebrating

afterwards, I was just joke

after joke after joke.

And they're like, all right,

it's you got to slow down, dude.

It's like, it's a little too

much now.

And I was just like, I can't,

this is my Copic.

I can't stop.

Doing it like this is what I do.

You need to get on board with

this or leave me alone.

Yeah, I got it, dude.

I get it.

I mean, you know, like my dad

died at A at a younger age for

me.

So whenever somebody else's dad

died, I'm like, welcome to the

dead dad club, You know what I

mean?

Like, I'll, I'll start to kind

of rub them like in on it and

whatever.

So my wife always tries to pull

me back.

She's like, you need to stop.

I'm I'm the same way.

My dad died when I was like 10.

Right.

Well, that's wait, you beat me.

That's way younger.

I mean it's like you're younger,

it's harder, harder to handle,

but when you're older you've

spent more time with them so you

miss them more.

Like it's give and take, but

like an hour later I was

cracking jokes and my brother

was about to murder me.

It's I was like, I was 10 years

old.

You were 10, right?

And I'm still like, that was my

default coping mechanism, right?

Was your brother older?

Yeah, OK.

Yeah, he's 13.

So yeah, your dad probably just

loved him more.

That's what it was.

He, my brother thought that.

Yeah, makes sense.

Makes sense.

OK, All right.

What else you got?

We got some cigar news.

Oh, you're right.

Can't wait to hear this.

And here's our roving reporter

on Cigar News, John Carney with

Bentley Cigars.

A roving part A roving.

Says look at Mikey I.

Got nothing too.

OK.

All right.

Well, John Carney's not here, so

I don't know.

I guess John was busy.

So now me la ream.

It's not how you spell my name.

Of course not.

Are you surprised everything's

misspelled?

Yeah, Palmer doesn't know how to

spell.

Zion Cigars.

Zion Cigars, the Future

Surpassion, Surpassion,

Surpassion.

That's a cigar brand.

Who knows, there's 75,000 cigar

brands.

Yeah, it could be 1.

Surpassion releases King of

Battle in honor of 250 years of

the US Army.

Wow.

So that was last year.

Yeah.

I guess last year was the Army's

250th birthday.

OK, I believe.

You would know better than I

would, you know?

I was a Navy guy.

You're still military.

That qualifies.

And we don't.

We don't know.

So you like a seal?

I mean, like, how high up were

you if you're doing Sears

training and all this other

stuff?

So in in the Navy it's called

special warfare.

So in the Army it's Special

forces.

OK, Navy it's Special warfare,

Marine Corps, Special

operations.

So in the Navy, there's two

special warfare units, SEALS and

SWIC.

That was SWIC.

So we like to say, 'cause no

one's ever heard of SWIC, he's

like, Oh yeah, 'cause we can

keep a secret.

He's a boat guy.

Yeah, Boat guy.

So really what it was, was like

it was a, a program that was

meant to help insert and extract

Seals, whether covertly or under

hot fire.

And then eventually the Seals

like we, I think we need

somebody better to do this

'cause it was like a regular,

like you can just get orders

there, right?

But you didn't have to go

through like serious training.

And then so they're like, oh,

we'll make it closed loop.

But the Seals are like, you guys

will never be like us.

You'll never be a real special

operations platform.

You're like searching for.

Cover We.

We brought you under our

umbrella, you know, 'cause we

need something, but you're just

a tool for us.

So we.

I hate seals with a passion.

That's hilarious.

Like we never got we, I

literally got in a fight with a

SEAL on a mission, like a fist

fight rolling around on the

floor, 'cause he was trying to

take my, my gun mount, which was

a twin 50 Cal gun mount, right?

He's like, and we had a contact

coming at us and I was like,

yes, I finally get to use this

fucking glorious gun, right?

And this SEAL pushes me out of

the out of the way and jumps on

it.

I was like, you don't even know

how to fucking use this thing

'cause we're the only ones in

like the whole military that

have twin mounted 50 caliber

machine guns.

No kidding.

So like the the feed trays

reverse like you butterfly

trick, like it's all it's made

just for us pretty much.

So I'm like I elbow him in the

chest.

I'm like get the fuck off my

gun.

And then he like punches me and

then I grab him.

There's like 5 seals sleeping on

the back deck.

We're rolling all over them.

Did he say he was sorry

afterwards?

No.

Mike, you, you've seen these

guys before.

You ever seen like the movies

where like this guy comes in

with a helmet and glasses on and

he has his big turret and they

come in and they do this cover

fire and then the Seals, you

know, come out.

It was in.

There was a seal.

Active Valor Yeah, yeah.

OK so the movie Active Valor

used real Seals and real SWIC

for the.

Movie.

No kidding.

Yeah, those were not, those were

real active duty seals, right?

Yeah, well, in SWIC.

But did they have a scene where

the SWIC guy was fighting the

SEAL guy 'cause then it would

have been really.

Awesome.

Then it would have been

authentic, yeah.

He'll screw you.

Even in Chris Kyle's book he

like talks shit about SWIC.

He's like, those guys suck.

They have no idea what they're

doing.

I'd rather work with the Marines

all day like.

No kidding.

Yeah.

We did not get along.

That is so funny.

Then anytime we got some like

cool tech, the Seals would come

in and be like, it's too cool

for you guys, we're going to

take that.

Wow, that's so funny.

So everyone else, whenever

someone's like, oh, seals are so

cool, I'm like.

They're all right.

Don't meet your heroes, yeah?

Don't meet your heroes.

I kicked one's ass.

We tried to take my gun.

Yeah, that's the other thing.

Like they have their own bar.

There's a Seal bar in Coronado,

CA, which is like that's their

go to place, right?

I've seen so many seals get laid

out in that bar.

Like they don't they don't get

great hand to hand training.

It's not like the 80s when

everyone got a black belt.

Like they're like the new

mentalities, like if you have to

use your hands you're probably

going to die anyway so why waste

of money training you, right?

Yeah, that's that's fair, I

guess.

So they get the shit kicked out

of them at their own bar.

That's too funny, dude.

Hey, you have every right to say

all that stuff.

You, you put in your time, so

whatever.

That's awesome, dude.

All right, so I'm a Swick.

I'm a Swick fan.

That's right.

Just for the record.

That being said, though, I need

to clarify this.

Our best SWIC guys tried out for

SEAL training and none of them

passed.

Oh, OK.

Like our training's pretty

tough.

It's very tough.

The attrition rate's like 90%.

OK, but our, our best SWIC guys

never passed SEAL training.

No kidding.

I think it was on purpose.

They're like, we're not letting

you motherfuckers in our club.

Like fuck you guys.

So it's just like there are

things they can do to make sure

you don't pass that they don't

like you.

Like if you're ever like an

Admiral son going through SEAL

training, the admiral's like,

hey, my son's going through.

They're like definitely not

making it Now they do that.

They really do that.

If they ever get a

recommendation like the smart

guys are like, I don't want to

know.

I don't want them to know who my

dad is.

Right, don't say anything.

Don't say anything but the

second the dad's like, you know,

watch out for my son over there,

you know, wink, wink, nudge,

nudge.

Yeah, we will.

He didn't make it.

Yeah, he rang the bell.

Yeah, so I have a funny story

about what he just said.

I actually know a guy that ended

up passing away.

He was a SEAL.

That's hilarious.

Oh Lord.

But his parents.

His parents didn't even know

what he did in the in the

military.

No kidding.

Yeah, they had no clue until

they came to the funeral.

Wow, wow.

Yeah.

And then they saw all these

people dressed up and they saw

the pens and everything, and

they asked, they saw his, you

know, he was a dog handler for

the seals.

And he was a what?

A dog handler?

Canine.

Yeah, canine do.

They have those.

I didn't know they did, yeah.

OK.

So you might have you might have

been a seal.

There was a guy with Bin Laden.

You saw this, you captured this

first hand.

You saw the seals at the

funeral.

Yeah, well, I did the funeral,

OK.

Yeah, what?

Do you mean you did the funeral?

Like I was, I was a master at

arms, OK?

So I, I was one of the guys that

was doing the funeral.

So when they got there, they

were just like crying.

And I was like, you know, you,

you kind of you, you trying not

to pay attention, right?

Because you don't want to get

emotional, right?

You know, in the, in the

ceremony, but afterwards, you

know, I just asked him.

I was like, man, you know, I, I

knew your son.

I said, I'm, I'm really, you

know, sorry for your loss and

talking to him about.

And they're like, it's not even

that he's gone.

It's just we didn't even know

that he was a SEAL in the Navy.

No kidding.

Yeah, I was like.

How did you know him?

Do you arrest him?

No, I, I, I worked with those

guys so.

He was military police, yeah.

Yeah, where I was and.

He said Master at arms.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's what they're

called.

Oh, is that what that means?

Thank you.

Thank you.

I don't speak the terms.

And and just so you know.

Serial lingo for anything.

Just for the record, it's hard.

It's hard to speak military

lingo.

It's like 99% acronyms.

It's all I.

Have no idea what's going on

ever.

I, I like to just always

introduce that I'm like, yeah,

well.

Yeah, no.

Well, in our area.

Military police sound so much

better.

OK, go ahead, Master at arms.

No, in our area everybody just

worked together.

Yeah, you know, I, I did the dog

side.

So everybody in, you know, I was

in Hampton Roads, so Virginia, I

was in Virginia Beach.

So with everybody there,

everybody just trained together

and there was only 60 of us.

So we trained with other Seals

and we just knew the guys.

But I think, I think the

Virginia Seals can keep a secret

better than the California

Seals.

Yeah, I never did.

You've.

Said that before, yeah, You've

said that before.

You said that the East Coast

ones are better than the West

Coast ones.

They.

Did you know it's funny they

were going to make a the SEAL

training site on the East Coast

cuz East Coast guys were

different than West Coast guys.

No kidding.

Yeah.

So now you've brought this up to

me a couple Times Now.

It's slowly I.

Said the Hawaii seals are the

toughest ones.

Yeah, probably cuz they do the

seal delivery vehicles which

they go under, they're

submarines, but they get flooded

with water.

So you use like scuba gear and

that water is freezing fucking

cold.

Really.

So those are the toughest, like

outside of like dev Group, like

SEAL Team Six, those are the

toughest seals by far.

So now if I ever run across

anybody, probably will never

will.

But if I run into a seal, I'm

like East Coast or West Coast

'cause I'm not, you know, wait a

second.

Yeah.

And then they say Hawaii.

I'm like, oh shit, yeah.

But they say West Coast, you're

like, maybe I can take them.

Yeah, so you're not good at hand

to hand combat, is what you're

saying?

OK, got it.

You ever been to a bar in

Colorado?

Tell me, Timmy.

OK, well, well, hit us with the

next one.

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It's he always repeats his

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Like yeah, he does so much

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Very redundant.

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That sounds really good.

Yeah, well, it depends upon

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That's true.

Quite they said it.

Was AJC Newman's ago right?

No, that's not what he's saying.

He's saying that JC Newman does

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Oh, OK.

Yeah, however this guy's, you

know, actual military, so.

And so is he.

Not really.

He's master at arms, doesn't it

Qualifies more than me.

That's like, you know what I

mean?

But like, you know, that's,

that's not saying much.

We also had a lot of issues with

the Master at Arms because

whenever you came back to base

drunk, they were the ones that

caught you.

You get past all the police, no

problem.

We're not the friends.

The Master at Arms, they're

like, Oh yeah, I get to take

another one out.

Wow, see, that's exactly that's

not that strikes me as boots.

And so they're just.

Well, I, well, I did the dogs.

I didn't do gay duty or anything

like that.

So I I did not participate in

taking people for drunkenness.

What do you do with the dogs you

like?

Check for drugs and stuff.

Well, yeah, I had a drug dog,

yes, Yeah, but you have

explosive or drug, we just

trained all the time do.

You ever pop anybody for drugs

or explosives?

One time there was a command.

It's the L cat, so they're like

the big hovercrafts.

Oh, those things are awesome.

Yeah, you actually have to be a

pilot to drive them.

Really.

Yeah.

Like a real pilot.

The commander wanted us to do

like a health and comfort check

and somebody had cocaine.

They had Brock, they had just

come back.

So I think they brought cocaine

back and our dog just sat on the

on the locker and then they took

care of the rest.

But I didn't actually arrest

that person.

Oh so.

OK.

He's like, yes, it's finally

happening.

And then they're like, Johnson,

you're arresting me.

Well, well, to be honest, like

the most of the time, most of

the people that we arrested were

dependents.

So like like on base you have

the Nex's that was like 80% of

all the arrests on base.

It was like people stealing from

the NES.

Yeah, it's all shoplifting,

Shoplifting and well, the crazy

thing, it's always like a, like

a captain or an admiral's

dependent.

Like it was never like an

enlisted.

Yeah, Someone Like You know who

my husband is, you know who my

dad is.

Oh yeah.

I think if you made a cigar it

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That's way better than industry

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Or sounds way more badass than

it is too.

Yeah, like, like you got to

remember that.

Yeah, it does.

Like.

You do in the military master at

arms.

So you're a master of all arms,

like all weapons, like somebody

arms cop?

You know what I mean?

Like people buy stuff just

because of it.

Has a cool name, you know what I

mean?

War Bear cigars.

War bear, right?

Are you going to follow us up

with a Connecticut called

Cocaine Bear?

Cocaine Bear and it's going to

be like different, like a weird

size or whatever.

It's going to kind of be all

over the place.

Wonky Colebra Yeah, exactly.

That's exactly it.

It's going to be 3 different

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It's like 3 different 64 ring

gauge cigars.

Colebra.

Tied in together.

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Is it really?

I mean, that's what it sounds

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A pro cigar.

Yeah, strictly.

Well Pro Cigar is a thing, but

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A gentleman?

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Yeah, it's like, yeah.

The three, I guess it depends

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Did you guys ever watch that

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That's.

That is Palmer.

That is Palmer, yes.

His new nickname?

It's a long nickname though.

Of course it's redundant.

It doesn't even make any sense.

The program offers a

one-of-a-kind opportunity for

cigar retailers.

Second time he said that Yep,

access to access limited edition

cigars crafted exclusively for

the festival by Pro Cigar member

factories sounds like TA.

This initiative allows

participants to purchase these

exclusive cigars unavailable

through any other channel while

promoting direct relationships

with the most prestigious

manufacturers in the Dominican

Republic.

Participation in this program is

reserved for officially

registered retailers attending

the festival.

Each participating retailer will

have the priority access to an

exclusive space designed to

facilitate meetings and

purchasing opportunities with

Pro Cigar members in a

professional and private

environment.

More redundancy, right?

Exclusive and private.

It's it's exclusively private.

Exclusive benefits.

Access to limited edition

cigars.

I didn't see that coming.

Created exclusive for the Pro

Cigar Festival.

Exclusive purchasing rights

unavailable.

There's a lot of exclusiveness

through any unavailable through

any other distribution channel.

Direct engagement with

procigarmembercompanystrengtheninglongtermbusinessrelationshipsregister@procigar.org.

There's a phone number and

e-mail, but forget that.

Right, OK.

Do you do you think that this

would work?

What's been?

Done.

I mean, yeah, it's another

excuse to throw some L ES out

there.

OK.

But like realistically there are

L ES specifically for particular

companies that will do well and

then your other L ES for other

companies is kind of, yeah, you

know what I mean, like there.

Is this only for Dominican

cigars or?

That's what it sounds like.

Yeah, Pro Cigar is a Dominican

festival, Yeah.

And then TA is only Nicaraguan.

Oh, they're everybody.

Yeah, TA is the top retailers in

the country.

Right and TA.

I mean, that's such a vague

term.

I mean, top retailers, I think

it's like the top buddies, you

know?

When does?

Little boys close.

I mean, I'm going to say that

until I'm eventually in there,

but like, I'm a DIA member.

You're like one of the top.

Guys, yeah, you know, it's no

big deal.

Yeah.

You hate them till you join

them, I guess.

Exactly.

You know, it's like.

And we've arrived.

When's TAA?

I don't know, just yeah, it just

happened, yeah.

So they're going to.

November.

I think it happened right?

I think so, yeah.

So they're going to have another

thing where these guys were at

already, some of them, and now

they're going to do a specific

one just for them.

Well, you know, here's the only

way that I see that it actually

competes in the space is if you

get Fuente involved, if they

offer some particular opus that

you can only get by being a part

of this thing.

Yeah, Yeah, that makes sense.

You know, I mean, your other one

in that space, I think that that

that might have an attract

sequence may be LFD as far as a

Dominican, but I can't think of

another brand, a Dominican

Republic that has an LE that is

extremely sought after.

Yeah.

That you.

Do they have, I mean, I guess

Davanoff, you know, I'm not a

Davanoff retailer, so I wouldn't

know.

Yeah.

I do sell Lopus though, so maybe

one day, you know, like.

Sorry that we're so exclusive.

Yeah, they're very exclusive,

privately exclusive.

Is is Mirafel?

No, we don't really know where

Mirafel's made right.

Yeah, but he grows tobacco in

Africa.

He does.

I heard that.

So it's like the number one

tobacco producer in Africa.

Yes.

Yeah, Supposedly.

Supposedly.

Yeah.

And he no longer sells the

Fuente.

He no longer sells the Fuente,

and who knows what that story is

about?

No one will tell us.

I know.

I can't wait till it comes out

you've.

Got to get somebody a little

shit face to leak that

information You've got to get

out of the PCA.

I need to know what happened.

Keep feeding them shots.

So they eventually need to do it

James O'Keefe style, just like

go through Twinder Tinder

swiping on people till we find

someone that works for one of

the companies and then go on a

date with them undercover.

Send in a hot.

Chick with a camera it's so

weird I don't understand what

happened like well, here's what

happened let me let me tell you

'cause I.

Know I'm an insider.

Let me prove to you how amazing

I am.

Right?

Got him.

Honestly, the greatest thing

ever.

Have you ever seen that guy?

James O'Keefe?

No, so he, he's, he's like

gotten like CIA agents, like

people that work in the

Department of Defense in the

White House, like he gets them

to go on a dates with like it's

either like gay dudes go on

dates with dudes or, or straight

dudes go on dates with chicks.

That's how that works.

I don't know if you know.

That I I I understand that

concept that makes sense.

It's like a 5050 mix, and they

just like they want to hook up

with this person that's out of

their league so badly that they

divulge all this information to

try and look cool, right?

Yeah, that makes sense.

That's his journalistic style.

And then my favorite part is he

goes himself.

He went on dates with the guy

that runs security for the White

House.

It was like he was a

cybersecurity, the head of

cybersecurity for the White

House, and he went on a date

with him.

He's like, have you ever heard

of a man named James O'Keefe?

He's like, yeah, why?

He goes, 'cause I am him.

And he takes his glasses off.

He goes no, no, no, no, no.

It's so great.

Don't do it.

Don't do.

I didn't.

All of that was a lie.

So he's like the 60 minutes guy

I'm.

Just trying to get in your

pants.

I don't know anything.

Please.

This is really good.

By the way.

What is it?

So you gave me this Camacho

Unleashed.

Yes, the OG Unleashed.

When did?

When was this made?

How's that?

That's a good question.

It's kind of bright.

That 20.

Is it a toilet?

A low.

It's it's a silver and white

band.

It's hard to see on camera.

It's a little hard.

It's.

Really good.

It's yeah, that was.

And I think the three was the

best one of the three, the

unleashed three, Yeah.

So and that was what, two years

ago?

That one's got to be at least

six years old.

See, now I'm so I'm so I got

some direct link to Camacho.

There you go, I'm on the up and

up.

I mean, man.

Yes, Sir.

However, if I need to place an

order, I need to contact contact

WASP.

Yeah.

So yeah, I do need a re up.

OK, All right, so Pro cigar Rep

Rep Edition.

Yeah.

I don't think it helps.

I, I, you know, look, they, they

better get 20 on board.

They may, maybe they have, but

if they did, I would have led

with that in the article.

Look at the way this is an elite

thing and there's going to be a

rare opus that you're going to

have access to and people be

like, oh, man, yeah, you know.

I mean, yeah, if if you're if

you're pro cigar, you wouldn't

announce this if you didn't have

anyone decent on board.

Maybe.

I mean, yeah, I guess you're

right.

Because then you're like, we

have this new program, you sign

up for it and you're like, I

mean, we have this company.

Have you heard of them?

Yeah, right.

Like, I don't know, I hope that

that's the case, so.

They have There has to be at

least one banger that's going to

move the needle you.

Think it's dabbing off?

I don't know.

We're we're very, very reserved

with who we make custom cigars

for or limited, like limited

dishes, one of our bread and

butters and we control that

heavily.

So I don't know, OK.

Speaking of Davidoff, Davidoff

debuts in Manila with three

luxury boutiques.

Oh my goodness.

Luxury cigar brand Davidoff of

Geneva, since 1911, that is our

official name, has officially

entered the Philippine market,

announcing the opening of three

new retail boutiques in Manila,

marking a major milestone in the

brand's continued expansion

across Asia.

I mean you guys, you guys need

an ambassador.

I will.

I will happily go.

You go into Asia, you just got

married.

You can't go to Asia, you know.

That'd be bringing sand to the

beach.

Yeah, it's silly.

I don't know.

Love you, baby.

I love you, Happy.

One year, happy One year.

The new boutiques are located in

some of Manila's most

prestigious destinations,

Makati, Bonifacio Global City.

That's one.

That's a city.

Bonifacio Global City and City

of Dreams Manila.

They're great with naming.

Like if you meet the girls over

there, their names are like

Princess and Cookie and Beauty

and like you.

Think that's their real names?

Those are their real names.

No kidding.

Yeah, I'm talking like your

regular everyday, like the

receptionist at the hotel.

So that's her name will be

Beauty.

Yeah, it's not like the the

nicknames at the strip clubs

here.

They're all cars.

They're all Cadillac.

They.

Say Cadillac next on stage Jeep,

Minnie Cooper.

It's amazing each location each

location showcases Davidoff's

latest global retail design

concept, blending contemporary

luxury with subtle Caribbean

influences to create an elevated

cigar shopping and lounge

experience.

I'm giving this one more humph

since it's our.

Company.

Yeah, I get it.

Dress it up.

The boutiques feature curated

selections of premium Davidoff

cigars, accessories and

dedicated lounge spaces designed

for both seasoned and seasoned

kind of suitors and newcomers to

the brand.

According to the to Laurent de

Rugemont, the Manila Is that a

French guy?

I guess.

The Manila debut reflects

Davidoff's long term commitment

to the growth in Asia and to

delivering refined, immersive

retail environments that reflect

the brand score values.

The project.

The projects were developed in

partnership with Zeno Manila,

Inc, led by Jose Maria Esteban,

who emphasized the global goal

of creating distinctive world

class cigar destinations in the

Philippines.

The three locations include a

boutique inside Shangri-La, the

Fort, a spacious walk in.

I've been to the Shangri-La.

It's that is like the most

luxurious hotel.

Really.

Yeah.

I actually, I would go there to

work out and the guy, the the

trainer was like super nice.

It was like 20 bucks for a one

hour session with him.

A a boxer.

He was teaching me boxing.

No kidding.

He was 20 bucks for an hour.

Turns out this guy was like 110

and two.

No kidding.

Yeah.

And that was like his only

career option after boxing.

He was like, yeah, I train

people for 20 bucks an hour now,

and he was like on Manny

Pacquiao's training team.

No kidding.

Yeah, dude, that's a steal. 20

bucks. 20 bucks an hour is like

a lot of money there, but that's

what the hotel was charging.

He probably makes 5 bucks an

hour right?

Which is still pretty good

income there.

Right.

Yeah.

Is Zion involved in this too or

just Zeno?

I'm sure Zion's involved.

Zion, yeah.

He's everywhere.

He's everywhere.

In inside the Shangri-La The

Fort, a spacious walk in humidor

and lounge at Makati Shangri-La

and a retail presence on the

gaming floor of City of Dreams,

featuring cigars, accessories

and curated spirits.

Together, these openings

solidified Davodoff's presidents

and S presence presidents

presence in Southeast Asia and

signal a strong new chapter for

premium cigar culture in Manila.

Drilla in Manila.

Yeah, that'll I mean, that's

exciting.

There's yeah.

I mean, if you wanted the job in

Asia, if there's no question

that you're accompaniment,

you're stuck yourself in a van

for like 75 years, you know what

I mean?

So like did you did you push for

the Camacho thing or was it just

available and you put your hat

in like?

I did push for it.

You did because I just like I've

been smoking Camacho forever.

Like when I the first time we

got cigars donated in it was

2011 was the first time I saw

like an actual donation package.

And it was.

Camacho, it's like 95% gurka, so

OK.

And then there was like 5%

Camacho and that was pretty much

it, right?

Everyone fought over the

camachos.

Literally.

We like really each other in the

face.

Like those are mine.

Right.

I mean, that makes sense.

Yeah, just because like every

day we'd smoke 3 gurkas.

So you know, you knew the whole

right, the whole line, the

black, everything they had,

right?

Smoking gurkas while we're

smoking gurkas.

You know what was crazy?

Dude is to this day, if somebody

comes in, they're like, hey, do

you have any gurkas?

And I ask them what branch

military we're in.

Yeah, how did you know?

I'm like, because.

And that was brilliant it.

Was brilliant marketing, Yeah,

like we'll just get all these

like, 20 year olds hooked on our

brand before they even come back

to the US and actually make real

money.

Right.

And they're just hanging out and

smoking cigars like they should

be smoking our stuff.

Yeah.

I didn't even like I was like

powering through them.

Sometimes it's like I'm smoking

this because I have nothing else

to do.

Some 12 hour midnight watches,

you know, it's like.

Keeps you stimulated, you know

what I mean?

Instead of.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, and I did security on a

spook base, so it was like it

was not on the official map of

the base.

It was like a secret and it was

all CIAFBI SEAL team 6D force.

Like they would go out every

night, Black Hawk helicopters,

Striker army vehicles and they

would just go come back with

like 20 dudes and hoods every

night.

No kidding.

Yeah, that's pretty cool.

Yeah, I was there during the

Arab Spring, so it was a very

busy time.

I.

Was very busy.

It was a very busy.

Time very occupied so you'd

steal all the camachos out of

the bag.

Yep, I would.

Well, I mean if I was there like

whoever the the the packages

would come in during the

daytime, which is when I slept

'cause I did 12 hour watches

every night, which was better

'cause it's like 130 during the

day in the summer.

You wanted you wanted the night

watch.

You wanted a solid 100?

And 10 nice breezy, cool 110.

Yeah, cool 110.

Got it.

But yeah, when if we had a

Camacho, it was like special.

So when I got back to America, I

was like, I've smoked every

Gurkha there is.

I was like, I want to see what

Camacho is about.

And that was like my brand for a

while.

And then I then I got into like

ultra premiums after that,

right?

And you look better in the swag,

dude.

Way better.

Yeah, yeah, it's way more I.

Feel at home here.

Like I love Zeno, but there's a

there's a few things about the

brand that I really wanted to

move.

For one, it's very prestigious,

you know, started in the 60s,

like it's been around forever 2.

I get to fly everywhere.

No more driving right?

And three, I get to smoke more

than one blend for the whole

year.

You get this Zeno yellow.

OK, cool.

All right.

And now it's time for everyone's

game.

Favorite game?

Yes.

What's the score?

What's the score I.

Tried to do the camera and he

did it pretty quickly.

Yeah, he did OK.

Dude, you guys need a Jingle.

You need a Jingle to introduce

it.

You're probably right.

Just throw it into AI real

quick.

Takes 5 seconds.

Yeah, we, we put back the, we

brought back our old sound board

'cause our new, the other one

that we had was been giving us

issues for whatever reason.

Like if it's if he's not here

and I'm doing the flipping when

whenever we move it, if I touch

the board, something happens

with the audio and it cuts.

Off.

Oh, those gremlins, yeah.

Electronic gremlins, yeah.

Pretty much.

So we went back to the old board

and we actually have this.

It's got sound clips that we can

for years.

Yeah, we could totally do that

from years, from years, But we

could add our own music stuff.

Yeah, as long as YouTube doesn't

flag us for copyright or

whatever.

Well, if you use AI, it's all

made-up on the spot.

Right, you would hope that it.

Doesn't like we're, we're, we're

using that now we have, we have

a new guy working for us and he

just every time, like we insult

somebody, he throws it into the

AI and makes a song about the

insult.

Does he really?

Yeah, that's.

Awesome.

At first it was amazing because

they're like real like 2 to 3

minute songs.

We listen to the whole thing.

Now we're like, oh, here's

another one.

I'll listen to it later already

mate.

At first it was hilarious.

Well.

It was just like the Sora thing,

Like everybody had access to

Sora, and then all of a sudden,

like you saw one or two clips of

some videos and you're like, oh,

that's funny.

And then like within a week I'm

like, OK guys, I get it.

We're moving on, you know, OOP.

Burning your mic?

All right, so what's the score?

Let's go.

What's the score?

Uh oh.

Hold.

On uh oh.

Scoreless.

What happened here?

Get back there.

OK.

What's the score?

July 31st, 2021.

Patrick.

La grade.

La grade.

Yep.

How do you say that name?

I want to get it right.

Because he's he scores us.

Lagroid.

Lagroid.

Lagrid.

Lagrid.

Lagrid.

Patrick.

Lagrid.

Patrick Lagrid.

Cigars.

Cigars.

No, that's the reviewer, says

Patrick Lagreed, Cigar's

Davidoff Honduras reviews.

You obviously picked Davidoff

because you're on the show.

Yep.

Yes.

And then he.

Reviews the Xeno Nicaragua

Robusto.

There it is.

OK.

And when, what year was it?

21 OK.

So all right, five year

anniversary coming up.

You want to go first.

Yeah.

Is this the same as the little

ones in the tent?

No, it's the robusto.

But the blend is.

Yeah, the blend's the same.

As the one in the tins.

Yeah.

Do you know Nicaragua?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I mean the tin, the tin size

like it's like half the size of

the robusto.

So it's the blend is slightly

different, OK.

And a lot of people love the tin

size better than the rest of the

line.

Yeah, I do like the Tins 86.

Very low conservative number.

Well, I I'm not sure completely

yet, so I'm trying to I'm going

to go off of you on this one.

Probably I'm.

Going to go to 89.

Because I've never had the

robusto and I know it changes

the taste changes in size.

OK, I'm going to start with a

very reserved 99.

I.

Feel like this is going to

change throughout the review

but.

I'm going to start with the 99.

Country of origin Honduras

Factory Diadema Cigars de

Honduras SA Rapper Ecuador

Connecticut Binder Nicaragua

Semiya 56 Secco Filler Dominican

Republic San Vicente San Vicente

Mejorado Secos.

That was two different things.

That was lovely.

Honduras Olancho and Hamistran

visus and Nicaraguan Tepe visus.

Visus visus.

Is it VISO or?

VISUS.

It's the Spanish way of saying

it.

Visus, Visus.

So we got a lot of shit for this

because it's called the Zeno

Nicaragua.

Right.

There's like 5 fillers and one's

Nicaraguan right?

And the binder's.

Nicaragua.

Oh, hey, that that counts, Yeah.

It does.

Yeah, it does count.

I'm.

Going to make it American in

Nicaragua, it's the American.

Let's go 86 though. 86 I'm going

to you're going.

To change it just by the oh, by

the blend, yeah.

Yeah, it's possible.

Usually if like if a wrapper in

a binder I think isn't going to

pair well or I think it's going

to pair great, I'll adjust.

But like this is really kind of

vague, so I'm going to stick 88.

You still in here in 99 I'll.

Bring it down to 98. 98 OK. 98.

Perfect.

Length 5 inches.

Or at least that's what he tells

his wife.

Ringgage 54 Vitola Robusto, MSRP

$6.50.

That's low.

That is low.

It's 2000. 21.

Five years ago.

Or a box of 25 for A16250 or a

patch of four for $26.

Release date May 2021.

Number of cigars released.

Regular production.

Number of cigars smoked for

review 3 OK I'm.

Pretty surprised by the price.

Yeah, I think the last time I

smoked to Zeno, I was in

Colorado, I think I told you

about.

It.

Oh yeah.

Were you at a Navy bar?

No.

No, no.

There was a bar I was going to.

Yeah, I was going to a baseball

game, the Rockies game, and

there was a cigar bar right down

the road.

And you can only smoke.

You can't smoke in public

tobacco in Colorado, right?

So I picked up a Zeno in it.

It was definitely not $6.50.

No, no.

Oh you, you probably got a

Xenoplatinum.

Yeah, it's totally different.

Yeah, it was like a silver.

Tube band, Yeah.

It was like in a tube or

something.

Yeah, those, those range from

like $20 to $70.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think it was like 30 something

bucks.

Yeah, if you got the the tube

like depending on how big it

was, does the tubby especiale or

the rocket or it?

Was it was like more like a Toro

size?

I think it's more of that size

you.

Got to make the Camacho swick.

Yeah, right, Jack.

Jack is going production, I

mean.

Macho does a lot of military

stuff.

Do that.

It's the same, Yeah.

We have the, we have the Liberty

series forever, right?

We've we've done military

specific limited editions like

the the Shellback, which is a

Navy ceremony when you cross the

equator on a ship.

They beat the shit out of you.

Really.

Yeah, not like.

Right.

It's just like PT, right?

Yeah, they spray you with a fire

hose while you do, like flutter

kicks and shit like that.

Nice.

You have to like drink a beer,

do jumping jacks and burpees

until you throw up.

Nice.

It's modern day hazing, right?

Back in back in the 70s, they

actually beat the fuck out of

you.

But it was like, it was, it was

a passage of rites.

So we made a cigar just for

that.

I mean, we could go to Swick and

we'd be like, we saved the

seals, yes. 1st in, last out.

1st in.

You know, every now and then

Seals do get in trouble and

there's only one team that can

save them.

Does that make them better than

Seals?

I don't know, but if Seals are

calling for help then I feel

like that makes them better.

That is a that is a cry for

help.

That's fair.

Don't take their turrets.

Who's Seals going to call?

I'm going to I'm going to go up

because of the price, so I'll go

to 87 I.

Was going to come down to 87

because of the price.

Really.

I'm going.

To go down, it's really kind of

funny sometimes the price, you

know, when it's something that's

so low in value, people

interpret it as.

A bad cigar as cheap?

Yeah, Yeah.

But also, if it's really

expensive, then you're like, oh,

I didn't get the value out of

that cigar, right?

It's a bell curve.

Yeah.

Weird.

Since you took 87, I'm going to

go 86.

OK.

I'm going to drop it down to 80.

It's a very affordable price,

80.

I know the score.

Yeah, I know the score.

So I'm like, it's not fair.

No blue one.

Flavour development improves as

the cigar progresses, evolving

from a familiar toasty start

into a more complex second third

with earthy depth, subtle

sweetness and layered notes that

show good balance and thoughtful

blending at its best moments.

That sounds pretty good.

I've still got 87.

Shit, I'm gonna go 88.

He's he really wants me to come

off at 87.

It's.

Really, now that I think about

it, I know the score we put in

our branding.

I don't know if that's half

wheel score, yeah, probably.

So I'm going to take this

seriously now.

I'm going to say 88.

You're going to know before us.

You're going to see it.

Yeah, you'll see the number.

So I'll, I'll, I'll go 88.

OK, now that I'm playing for

real for realsies, the Cigar's

visual presentation is

underwhelming as the plane as

the plain base model band lacks

refinement and design flair,

diminishing diminishing shelf

appeal despite the quality of

the wrapper underneath.

I agree with that 100%.

What do you expect for 6:50?

The expensive part, The wrapper

leaf is beautiful.

They're flawless.

The band is just garbage.

The band is boring like before.

I work for Davidoff I I never

smoked that cigar.

I passed it in humidor all the

time.

Because of it's banned.

Cause the price in the band, I

was like, that has to be a

shitty cigar.

It looks cheap, but the wrapper

leaf gorgeous.

Like it's a very very expensive

wrapper leaf on that cigar.

I don't know why for that price

point.

Oh, if you have it, you have it.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, like realistically that

the cost of that wrapper

probably is miniscule

comparison, right?

Like, especially for a company

like Davidoff, you know they

have tobacco.

The the world's largest

inventory of aged tobacco.

There you go.

So where you at, Boots?

I'll drop to 86. 87 I'm.

Going to stick with 88.

OK, 868788.

Clue 3 Consistency becomes an

issue in the final third, where

some samples turn harsh with a

noticeable bite in the throat

signaling an abrupt finish and

limiting enjoyment before the

cigar naturally feels ready to

be put out.

Is that it?

That's a negative.

That's a negative.

Harsh.

Hatred.

I feel like this is going to be

an 86, 86.

Patrick's not usually like a

mean guy when it comes to the

rating.

Everyone at Half wheels mean

when it comes to ratings, they

have the lowest average in the

industry.

No way.

No way.

Aaron Loomis and Mctavish.

God, why can't I think of the

name of the?

How about the cigar developing

pallets?

Yeah.

They have the worst average.

I don't think that.

I don't think Aaron likes

cigars.

If you listen, if you if we

could compile every review that

he does, yeah, I really think he

does hate smoking.

He just doesn't like cigars.

Oh, I got to smoke another one.

Yeah, starting at 50, right?

Yeah.

Wasn't he like a a a?

Didn't he do like weightlifting

or something?

Aaron Loomis, maybe?

I'm thinking, no, you're

thinking about how about this

guy?

Are you thinking about Justin?

Oh, OK, yeah.

It's awesome that I like, it's

awesome to know all these guys.

But you know, what's funny is

like the space has gotten a lot

bigger.

Yeah.

And I don't know all the guys

anymore.

Yeah, so.

But like I want to know all the

guys.

I'm, I'm discovering, like new

podcasts every day.

Yeah.

And they have like hundreds of

episodes, right?

Like, how have I not heard of

these people?

It's.

Incredible, dude.

It's incredible and they need to

keep going.

I don't care if they have two

viewers like you need to keep

going.

I agree it's.

Good for the industry.

Yes, please continue.

I think Joe Rogan started in

2011.

He had no viewers as far as like

3 years.

I think the first ad space that

he had was like the Fleshlight.

Was it really?

Yeah, that's amazing.

And he probably took it as a

joke, too.

They didn't even pay him.

No, he's like, well, I mean, I

think he wanted the money at

that point.

Yeah, absolutely.

But yeah, no kidding, I don't.

We don't Fact Check on this

show, by the way, so.

Excellent.

Yes, nobody fact checked.

Us.

Well, they will, definitely.

Don't do.

It they they will Fact Check.

Us, if you are a listener to

this podcast, do not Fact Check

they love in here, they love.

Fact.

And that was totally wrong.

Like, OK, I'm like, Yep.

And yeah, thanks.

Somebody fact checked if seals

have dog handlers.

Yeah, yeah.

There you go.

Yeah, Let us know.

So what did you do?

I did 86.

And then we have a final

thought.

So I'm going to stick 87, yeah.

I'm going to go to 85, he sounds

like.

Oh, you went lower.

That was a pretty harsh final or

final third, yeah.

Well, sometimes Palmer picks out

things to throw us off.

It's true.

Oh, he doesn't Just copy this.

This is the whole review this.

Isn't the whole review these are

like?

2 positives and a negative.

Yeah.

Oh man.

And then the final thought, the

final thought is usually what

really gives away where where

we're at sometimes.

But sometimes the final thought

can be like this cigar was

amazing.

You know, the flavor profile was

exquisite, the wrapper was

beautiful.

And there's I would buy five of

these cigars and smoke them

daily or whatever, right?

78 say, wait a second.

OK, what happened here?

Well, you know, there were some

construction issues, so I was.

Listening to one of your

episodes, Jack, Jack Terano, and

you were doing your a review of

your cigar, right?

And it was, I think the end

score was like 82.

Oh.

Yeah, he was like I.

Was like, why would you put that

on your own?

Episode Oh, 'cause we don't.

Care.

I know you know the best part.

Yeah, we just, you know what,

dude?

I'm, I'm grateful that they

covered it, you know?

Right.

That's true, yeah.

Like.

If somebody's already smoked it

and they see a score, they're

not going to stop smoking if

they like it, right?

But people have never smoked it,

just learned about it, right?

Whether it's a bad or good

score, like there's a, the

chances of them actually buying

the product have gone up now.

Correct.

There's, you know, there's

something about, I mean, there's

a whole breakdown and like, you

know, I'm listening to a book

called Contagious, which is

fantastic.

And they were talking about DARE

and like don't do drugs, right.

But like, they would do these

ads during these cartoons and

stuff and they're like, hey, the

really cool kids that are doing

drugs, don't be like them.

It's like, but wait a second.

They're really cool.

Like wait.

No, and like adolescent drug

usage went up when DARE, like

from when DARE was founded, it

just exponentially gross.

Right.

Doing the DARE campaign, it's

like kind of missed the mark on

that one, dude, Yeah.

You're like, oh, I've never

heard of any of these things.

Before what are these drugs?

What?

Wait.

And you're telling me that Cool

Timmy has them?

OK, I'll go.

There's a kid in my school

selling marijuana.

Like go check it grade.

This is wild.

Sounds like an entrepreneur.

Sounds like quite the hustler.

OK, So what?

What you said 8086.

I'm going to.

I'm going to stick 87.

You said 85.

All right, final thought, let's

go.

Final thought, having seen and

smoked a good chunk of Zeno's

history and offerings, I was

intrigued by what this new Zeno

was going to offer.

Though having thought of the

brand as premium offering in the

past, this more wallet friendly

offering left a question mark as

to what might be in store.

The Zeno Nicaragua Robusto more

than met my expectations,

exceeding them for probably 75%

of the cigar while only falling

short at the very end.

And while we don't factor in

price into our scores or

evaluations, knowing that this

was performing well above the

connotations of a cigar at this

price point is even more

impressive.

This is certainly a cigar worth

trying and one you might have

adding to your humidor for an

easy choice when you want a

cigar or for when you want to do

want something flavorful and

enjoyable for a guest.

While the packaging and

presentation may leave a bit to

be desired, the cigar definitely

delivers.

There you go.

What are you at, 87?

I mean, I'm about to change so.

I'm going to go to 88.

Damn, 'cause I was like alright,

if he's at 86 I'm in good shape

because it'll it might track

above that.

Well, now you know the score.

Yeah, I can see it, Yeah.

So I'm going to stick 87.

I'm going to stick 87.

I think you're both winners

'cause you both got the smoke of

Zeno.

It's 88.

It's. 88880 you got. 11 on the

head.

Googled it.

I didn't cheat this time.

Boots for the win.

Boots for the W.

He's been doing great this year.

Speaking of West, another POW

camp story.

Yes, go ahead.

So they would there.

There's several SEER schools in

the nation and there was ours

was in the mountains of

California, in the Coronado

Mountains or San Clemente

Mountains.

And they, one of the tortures

they did was we had to sit in

these dog kennels, like hunched

over, like we were packed in

these dog kennels in our

underwear.

They would blast this poem at us

for 24 hours straight.

This guy screaming this poem

like a German guy screaming a

poem.

And the poem was called Boots.

No kidding.

This is like Boots, Boots,

Boots.

Boots are walking 24 hours

straight.

It was like 4 or 5 minutes long

just on repeat, blasting to

where you can't even hear your

own thoughts.

Did you tell them everything

they wanted to hear afterwards

or no?

I actually did break.

They broke me when I first

started.

Like I was in the mentality of

like my first hour of torture

the field.

When they capture you in the

field, they're like, tell us how

you got here.

Tell us how many people are

here.

And I was like, these are

Americans, dude.

What are they going to do to me?

And they're holding a gun to my

face.

And I was just like, like,

you're not, you're American.

You're not going to shoot me.

So then they waterboarded me.

And after that I was like, Oh my

God, we're going to die here.

By far the worst thing that I've

ever gone through in my life.

I think I had like 10 minutes of

waterboarding, but it felt like

3 hours.

Wow.

It.

Yeah.

So it's, it's simulated drowning

that you can't die from, right.

So you're just gasping for air

for 10 minutes, but you can

still breathe, but you can't

feel yourself breathing, right?

So you can.

They literally they waterboarded

a guy for like 5 years.

Really.

Yeah, that guy's.

And then eventually he just

admitted to everything.

He's like, I'm actually the

greatest terrorist of all time.

I've done everything.

Please just kill me because.

I want to die I.

Took credit for like every major

on the.

Terrorist.

I did that.

I did that, you know, Domino's

$5 pizza.

I'm responsible of that.

I did that.

I just stop the water boarding.

You know, I was the second

gunman on the grassy Knoll.

I got happy.

What do you want to know?

It was me.

I did it.

Yeah, you know.

Spam emails.

I invented those, yeah.

You know, spam emails, you know

the people that call and try and

get you for the toll Plaza booth

thing and they tell you that

it's fake registration.

I'm responsible.

Car's extended warranty.

Yeah, I'm the mastermind.

I'm the guy I've done.

It's me.

It is me.

Please kill me.

That's hilarious, dude.

OK.

Is there anything else to add on

that or.

Nope.

OK, law dude, I think the

greatest thing that came out of

2025 is you, bro.

Honestly, like I, I know that we

kind of met before that, but

like as our friendship has

grown, I'm, I'm super excited

that you're local now, like

relatively local.

And I'm, I'm grateful for you

for coming on the podcast again.

And I, I look forward to, to

continuing this forward with

you, man.

So thanks so much for coming on

the podcast.

I appreciate it.

Yeah, I literally made this is a

225 mile round trip just to do

this one hour podcast.

And the and the sad part is

that's not a lot.

For you?

No the seasoned road warrior at

this point.

Right.

You're like, yeah, 200.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, I like, I threw that out

yesterday.

I'm like, well, it's kind of let

me see.

I'm like, do you want to come

over?

I was like, sure.

I'm like yes, Yep, yeah,

absolutely.

Dude, I appreciate it.

Man, I was actually, I was

sitting next to Jack and like we

have so much work to do because

we have our big sales summit in

like 2 weeks, right?

And he's just like we have a

laundry list of shit we need to

get done.

I was like, hey, I'm not going

to be here tomorrow.

He's like tomorrow's a work day.

What are you talking about?

Like, yeah, I got something

really important to go do.

Right, I'm active brand

ambassador here.

I'm you got to beat the drum for

Camacho so.

Actually, he told me to go Zeno

because it's it's not, I'm not

officially announced as Camacho

yet, right?

So he's like, just go Zeno.

And I went to the director of

marketing.

I was like, can I be Camacho

now?

She's like, yeah, what do you

think you should do?

I was like, I should do Camacho,

right?

I was like, all right, how about

it?

No problem.

You.

Should totally be leaning

towards that.

Like I said last week I was

surprised that you were still in

yellow.

I'm like, well that doesn't make

any sense.

December 30th.

Yeah, now it's the new year, new

me.

New year, new you.

Here we go.

I.

Do like the black?

It's so fitting for him.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

The yellow was a little more.

Happy, yeah.

People were people were when I

would meet people in person, but

I wasn't working.

So like I would go to cigar

shops the day before an event

and like promote it a little

bit, but I would be in my

regular clothes.

Right.

People get mad at me, like legit

mad that I wasn't wearing

yellow.

Like, where's the yellow?

They're like.

Oh, you're not wearing yellow.

I'm like, ha ha, yeah, right.

And they're like, why aren't you

wearing yellow?

Oh, you're angry?

Yeah, people are so like.

We expect you as as to look as

big birdie as possible.

I now have a huge pile of yellow

garments that I need to do

something with.

Burn I I think they'll be a

burning ceremony.

Yeah, soon.

We must let them go.

They are the past.

All right.

Well, this this concludes

episode 7800 and Niner.

Yeah, yeah.

And thanks again for coming on,

brother.

Appreciate it pleasure.

You'd like to find me on the

Instagrams.

My my new Instagram handle is

bold leaf law.

Bold leaf law.

One word, Bold leaf law.

I'm going to follow you right

now.

There we go.

Perfect.

I didn't know.

Well, has it always been that

and you just changed?

I just changed the handle so

then I already follow you.

It's no longer a tobacco

cupcake.

I feel like that's not very

Camacho.

No, that's not very Camacho.

That was very Zeno, yes.

Perfect.

Now you're bold leaf.

Bold leaf.

All right, Thanks, everybody.

That's yes.

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