ACHP Episode 444 Killer Aligator
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Welcome to a Cigar Hustler
podcast episode 444.
Espinoza.
I'm Mike Palmer and this is
Friday, January 9th, 2025.
Today with me in engineering is
Boots Espinoza, Hippelhauser.
Hello Espinoza fans.
I'm going to kill.
Both of you.
You.
Better stop Co host Mike.
I'm fickle as a pickle step on
Kevitch.
Fickle as a pickle?
Why am I fickle as a pickle?
I saw the show yesterday, yeah.
Super.
Fickly Preston might be out law
might be.
In It's nice having Law on the
show, he's also I.
Think it was the I mean, I
haven't watched the entire show.
It got a little embarrassing for
you after a while, did it?
Yeah, how did it get
embarrassed?
I expected to see you run over
here and sit on his lap.
Eventually now you're getting
super jealous of Oh my God I'm.
Not jealous at all.
Yeah, you are Woody, that.
Is right.
I am the woody of the group,
right Buzz?
Yeah, that's right.
First of all, Law drove 2 hours
to come just to be on the show.
Oh.
It was very nice for him to be
on the show.
I, I, I'm not belittling him on
the show.
He did a great job.
He's arguably one of the best Co
hosts we've had or ever have.
Other than, well, Jack from I.
Don't know, like, you know, like
I don't know.
I think that that's that, that's
close.
That's close.
Law is pretty good, man.
Jack is not worried about
tomorrow's guest host.
No.
And he has like awesome military
stories and all those other
stuff that we get to kind of
incorporate.
Oh.
Did it's like I said, I didn't
watch the whole thing.
Yeah, it was military stories.
Uh huh.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
We got to make fun of Boots and
his.
What is it called?
Marital status?
Marital status?
What do you call?
Something happening?
No, as a wasn't.
That his baby.
What's your role?
What's your role?
Master at arms.
Master at arms.
Oh, that's like the the guy on
he man who wore the little gold.
Master of the Universe, the
Green.
Hat Masters of the universe,
yeah, yeah, there was a master
master of arms or whatever.
He just.
Said he was Yeah, it's, it's the
military police master of arms.
Yeah, La La was not laughing.
That's the term.
La La understands that the
Master of Arms is not the fun
people when they get to the
gate.
He's like, oh.
Oh, you work the gate?
Well, that's normally, you know,
like the police, they work the
gate as well.
So like.
You're like the guy that takes
the tickets at the movies.
Well, that's not me, but yeah.
But yeah, that is some stuff
that they do.
But yeah, he he was talking
about like when he would come
back from the bars and stuff.
Those are not the funnest people
to encounter when you're coming
through the gate.
Yeah, you didn't have to get
turned to me while I was
drinking my Red Bull.
Sorry.
Yeah, it's OK.
You do that often.
Well, maybe.
Maybe we get sponsored by Red
Bull.
That would be allowed.
Yeah, that would be alone.
Is it like a Espinoza Red Bull
dude Sir?
Enough, enough, you're
borderline getting, listen, the
rage exists in here, OK?
It exists in here and you're
going to bring it out and then
we can't put it back once it
comes out we.
Can't put it back.
Don't make me angry.
You won't like me?
Whenever it's bad, it's so bad
to a point where they.
Have to walk away slowly.
We play that sad music and you
work your backpack on.
Yeah, like the end of the Hulk
show.
Right, that's exactly this.
Exactly.
You slowly walk away like you
do.
I mean, there would be no
podcast tomorrow, I promise you,
because the equipment would not
be functional.
Don't take it out of the
equipment.
It's for the windows or the pool
table or.
Something you gotta well, you
have to understand that this
camera is very close to me and
we'll step around it as you go
in a fit of rage.
I am not successfully getting
around this camera.
Yeah, that's a more expensive
camera.
Yeah, and it's going down for me
to get to you.
It's a little clearer than
Palmer's now.
The show would be over.
Because we can't afford another
camera.
Oh yeah, it's a plug in your
iPhone.
Well, maybe press the.
You'll probably.
Break that too.
Preston will buy another camera
for him.
Preston will buy it then.
I'm running the football podcast
only.
All right, on today's show, the
boathouse may be sinking.
Killer Alligator is finally no
more in sports.
Just how big is it?
And then in cigar news, he
finally been caught couple of
new cigars and then a mini.
What's the score?
What?
Today in episode 444 of a Cigar
Hustler podcast, we also have an
added on story that was not in
the opening that I discovered on
the way back and forth to my
mother's dentist appointment.
Yeah, yes.
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on the Patreon, Dak the Mayor.
Mr. Mayor, he wasn't one before.
No, he was before, but he had
dropped off for a while and he
just joined.
Back up, and now he's back.
He realized how foolish it was
not to hear all the shit that we
talked.
Welcome back, Dak.
Yeah.
So thank you, Dak for joining.
You know, yesterday Law did
bring up a point that he he
didn't even know we had a
Patreon.
That's why I've just mentioned
it there, yeah.
Did he did he sign up?
He hasn't.
He hasn't signed up yet.
No, but we we're going to get
Terrence has got to sign up.
Yes, Jack is taking care of
that.
Yes, tomorrow we're going to
have a special guest host,
Terrence Riley of Agonorsa
Cigars.
I'm going to do the what's the
score from over there?
No sense of me making it and
then have somebody else read it
because then it makes you and
boots play again.
OK, that's fine.
Whatever you want to do, buddy,
it's your show.
I'm just here living.
Am I not playing?
What's the score tomorrow?
No, I guess we could do a
three-way.
What's the score?
Sure.
We kind of did that yesterday
with Law, but he didn't get to
finish it.
Right.
Well, he had to read the score
at the end.
Yeah, he didn't get to finish
the score because he he was
doing the score.
And then once he scrolled down
and saw he didn't say what it
was.
He's the one that told us
Davidoff plays along when we do
it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Some of the people at Davidoff
get together and listen to it
and play.
The play What's the score?
That's pretty cool.
All right, this just happened.
The Miami Dolphins have fired
head coach Mike McDaniel.
Evening is 4 year 10 year with a
franchise after disappointing
2025 season.
The team confirmed the move on
Thursday, with owner Stephen
Ross saying that after careful
evaluation and extensive
discussions, the organization
needs a comprehensive change to
move forward.
McDaniel finishes his Dolphins
run with an overall 3035 wins
and 33 losses record across Four
Seasons, including two playoff
appearances in his first two
years, both of which ended in
wild card round losses.
The Dolphins close the 2025
campaign with a 7 and 10 record,
missing the playoffs for a
second straight year, and that
lack of post season success
ultimately contributed to the
decision.
Yes.
How do you feel about this?
Good, we got to move on.
You feel good about it.
Yeah, because now you know
Harbaugh is lurking.
Harbaugh.
That's probably why.
You've already been talking to
Harbach, that's if I could keep
reading I would have mentioned.
That that's probably why I got
fired.
Yeah, I figured when I saw the
news yesterday, yeah, about
Harbaugh, I was like, oh, I.
Think you're out of here?
Supposedly the the day he got
fired, they reached out to.
Him.
Yeah.
Here's the thing that I don't
understand.
Why can't an organization just
keep the guy and put him back in
a regular position where he
belongs?
As an offensive coordinator.
Yeah, like this guy.
I would want the Bucks to go and
get him as the offensive
coordinator.
Go get him.
I bet you he goes back to the
49ers.
They're.
Already talking about Kansas
City?
Really.
Yeah, as a head coach or as
offensive.
Coordinator.
Offensive coordinator.
I heard that on the radio.
That's what they said, that he'd
probably become an offensive
coordinator again.
Yeah.
And he would be great at that.
Yeah, he he's good at that.
Because that's what he's good
at.
Yeah.
He's not a great head coach.
So that the Miami was his move
up from offensive coordinator.
Correct, He left San Francisco.
Yep.
Yeah, he should be a coach.
And then they went, this was a
stupid decision, we're sorry.
Well, he's just not dude.
You know a leader of men is, is
not it?
Said the first two seasons they
went to the playoffs and then
the second two seasons nothing.
Did you?
Yeah, 'cause the system was
already set up and then you,
then the players get to kind of
know you and then they see what
they can do, what they can't do
and all these other things.
What happened to the coach
before?
Him, he got fired.
As well.
He got fired, Brian Flores, and
he's a great coach.
I think he'd be a great head
coach for any team.
Now he's the defensive
coordinator for the Minnesota
Vikings.
Why did he get fired?
Well, because he he's tough.
It was a whole DEI.
Thing he doesn't nobody liked.
It he doesn't listen, you know,
take.
Direction.
Well, the rumor is yeah, that
like the GM, the GM and the
owner wanted him to lose games
so they get a better draft pick.
He's not doing that.
Oh.
It would be hard for you to
think for most coaches.
Yeah, and we need you to throw.
That's not why he got fired.
Why did he get fired?
He got it was the whole, you
know, so he was, he thought they
were, he thought they were being
racist.
And then it turned into the
whole lawsuit, remember?
No.
Is he a black man?
That's not what happened.
I thought that's, I thought
that's what happened at the end.
Was he black?
Man, it gets you.
You got to get your DEI stories
correct if you're just throw him
out there, OK?
He got fired for not doing not
tanking at the end of the
season.
That's the story.
And then he went to go and apply
for the job in New York and New
York and, and New York had
already hired Brian Yadda at the
ball or whatever his name is,
right?
And then what had happened was
Belichick text Brian Flores
thinking that he was texting
Brian Dubal saying Congrats on
the new job position.
He goes, I haven't even taken
the interview, What are you
talking about?
And he said, whoa, I'm sorry.
Sorry, my girlfriend handed me
the.
Phone I text the wrong Brian.
So that means that the Giants
went ahead and gave Brian Dubal
the job before they were gave
even bothered interviewing Brian
Flores when they're required to
do so by the NFL guidelines
because of the DEI.
But regardless, like push DEI
aside and all that, whatever the
hell that is, the guy is a great
coach.
The guy is worth is worthy of
being a head coach in any
position.
I think he did well as at Miami.
Yeah, I don't think he did a bad
job.
Yeah, and then he went to
Pittsburgh, I think, and was
talking to us.
I'm on the phone.
I have no idea what you're
talking.
About.
Are you talking about, are you
talking to Preston, Preston?
Yes, he called by the way.
OK, so that's my point.
OK.
Yeah, I think Harbaugh's in
Miami.
That's what that looks.
That's what that looks like
'cause they were like.
In the Lamar reunion.
We're not getting rid of them.
No, not the Lamar reunion.
I don't think that Lamar leaves
Baltimore.
Lamar was talking about he,
he's, he feels like he's done
there.
I don't think he leaves
Baltimore.
No, no, not at all.
I don't know if Harbaugh is the
best.
Well, like, because now the real
question is what's who's the
offensive coordinator for Miami
and will Lamar fit into that
system?
Well, Harbaugh, if, if Harbaugh
does go to Miami, he will bring
everybody's getting fired and
it'll all be new people.
Well, the argument is that he
wanted to bring his own GM.
Yeah, it probably because they
haven't found the GM yet, so.
So it's a fit in Miami, right?
Makes sense?
Miami doesn't have AGM.
No, they fired him too.
Oh, they fired him too.
Yeah, yesterday, I mean today.
Whatever.
Like a couple?
Months ago he was fired.
Yeah, he got shit canned earlier
and he was probably the problem.
Yeah, Chris Greer was the
problem.
Oh yeah, Chris Greer.
I've never heard anything good
about him.
Yeah, me neither.
Never heard anything.
Accidentally.
I'm just saying.
I never heard anything good
either.
Yeah, right now on the regular
news.
Lake Buena Vista, FL A tragic
incident at one of the Central
Florida's most popular dining
destinations has now turned into
a lawsuit.
A lot of lawsuits in the in the.
Mcrib.
They got him.
Mcrib.
No.
No.
Does it have ribs?
No.
According to the court records,
the boathouse, located at Disney
Springs, is being sued following
the death of a customer who
reportedly choked on a piece of
steak while dining at the
restaurant.
I did see this, yeah.
It was in the news yesterday.
OK, you choked on a steak.
Piece of a steak.
The lawsuit alleges the customer
began choking during the meal.
Can you act this out?
No.
You don't have a camera
unfortunately.
But no, I'm just putting in on
Mikey and doing it.
The lawsuit allegations that the
customer began choking during
the meal and was unable to
dislodge the food despite
attempts to assist.
The individual ultimately died
as a result of the medical
emergency.
Attorneys for the plaintiff
claim the restaurant failed to
properly respond to the
situation, arguing it's a bell,
arguing the staff members were
not adequately trained to handle
a choking emergency or provide
timely life saving aid.
The suit alleges negligence and
wrongful death, stating that
faster or more effective action
would have changed the outcome.
Now the story is that he started
choking.
They called security, not 911,
and then security called 911.
By then, the man had already
died.
OK, his family tried to dislodge
it, giving him the Heimlich
maneuver, and then none of his
family were able to.
Was he a bigger guy or
something?
They didn't say, but nobody from
the the restaurant stepped up to
help.
Usually there's at least one
like ACPR certified.
Talking Disney Springs so you
can.
Have a paramedic on standby or.
No, but I mean they're supposed
to be trained at a restaurant.
I think we have a brochure
hanging in our kitchen how to
give the Heimlich maneuver.
But the fact is they they didn't
try.
No, they call the Disney police
instead of calling 911.
Here's why.
Because we've built this Society
of absolute fear where people
are terrified to do anything.
I mean there there are stories
of countless God awful things
happening in front of people and
them just watching just because,
not because that they're OK with
it, but because they're
terrified as to how to react.
Or or they may be sued.
Yeah, or they're worried about
getting sued.
Like realistically, this guy,
you can fix your.
You can give yourself the
Heimlich off of a chair.
I've done it before.
Right.
So you know, but.
It doesn't mean he knew how to
do it.
But like to walk into a
restaurant and expect somebody
to be able to take care of the
fact that if you're choking, I
mean, like, that's insane to me.
I.
Worked in a restaurant.
I just know we have a brochure
here because we are Restaurant
I.
Know you keep saying that, but I
don't, but I'm not if somebody
starts first of all, I mean, if
somebody starts choking here and
I'm here, I'll probably figure
it out.
I mean, I'm going to do, I mean
unless it's JW like, you know,
how are you going to fix?
It he has DNR.
Yeah, he.
Probably he has DNR.
He'll just stick his fingers
through that, you know that
extra hole.
Here on the side and just pour
out.
I'm going to kill.
That you know what I mean?
So like to expect the boathouse
to be equipped to handle it.
I mean, what?
There's nobody at the table that
can dial 911.
Right.
I don't.
I don't.
You know, like I just.
Read the stories.
I don't.
Know why you understand them
like this is obviously a
violence today.
This is obviously a reach though
because it's on Disney property.
Right, that's what it is.
That's what this is about.
Well, they're not asking for a
lot of money.
I mean, there's some 20 bucks
50,000. 50 GS.
Plus, you know, plus pain and
suffering, whatever that works.
Out well, 50 GS is probably like
the automatic on the insurance,
yeah.
So what attorney takes that case
for 50?
That doesn't even make sense.
Well, it's the pain and
suffering and I think there's.
Loss of spousal something.
Loss of spousal something.
Well, I forget.
Hold on.
I'll tell you what.
I Is it Kissimmee?
If we're talking about Kissimmee
or Windermere, it's probably
more Indian.
No, it was in the other one.
This is my version of the story.
Whatever the the it's like loss
of sex, but there's a spousal
something word for it.
Loss of what?
You can sue if, if somebody
kill, if your husband, let's say
you're married and somebody
kills your wife.
OK, you can sue because you can
no longer have sex with her.
But there's a word for it.
There's a big fancy, really loss
of spousal support or something
like that.
Emotional.
I don't.
Know no.
There's pain and suffering, loss
of spousal, whatever the word
is.
I feel like I can still have sex
with her.
Figure that.
Out while she's dead.
But then it becomes illegal.
Yeah.
I'm saying you wouldn't do it.
Well, he did.
He did say he'd be buried alive.
What I would I sue for like the
taxidermy fee or something like
that?
So she could, yeah.
Taxidermy.
Yeah.
Jesus, well, you just have a
rubber doll made of her.
Not the same, not a.
Rubber doll.
I want the.
Yeah, they can do the likeness,
you know, where they make her
face look like her and then he
picks out the hair and whatever.
I don't think she'd be OK with
that.
You have to pick up would.
She be OK with you doing her
dead body?
Yeah, she'd probably be.
Fine with that?
I don't think so.
Why don't you give her a call
and find that?
Yeah, just call her in here on
the phone doing this today.
It's Miss Brittany.
Step on Kevitch.
Brittany, we didn't ask you a
question.
If you by chance die.
It's a horrible thing.
We don't we don't want it to
happen.
Would you be OK with Michael
either 1 making a plastic a
plastic rubber doll of you and
having sex with that or fucking
your dead body?
And picking your hair out,
because I guess you could do
that now.
Yeah, you can modify dolls and
stuff.
You buy that?
Yeah, we did a story when I did
the Chet and Bowman show.
You can.
You can have one made that looks
just like your wife if you.
Want.
Yeah, right.
You're.
Too close to this Palmer, Yeah.
I have the one that made it look
like his wife.
That'd be weird.
I didn't say his wife.
And they're really expensive.
We all know I'm cheap.
I'm not paying that.
That's ridiculous.
All right, next door.
This is getting weird.
I mean, like, like, this is just
wild.
It sucks that that guy lost his
life, you know?
That's always terrible,
honestly.
Maybe they can say he didn't cut
it up good.
But realistically, it's his
fault.
I mean, what are we doing here?
What are we doing?
Did he take, we're choking on a
steak and we're going to sue
people?
I mean, come on.
What did they brought it out and
he said, oh, is that one bite
put the whole.
Thing she had the whole border
house in his mouth at one time
right there he goes like.
John Candy and the great
outdoors.
Except he ate all at once.
Yeah.
He didn't cut it up into pieces.
Wild.
All right, Florida wildlife
officials have confirmed that
the alligator responsible for a
fatal canoe attack earlier this
year has been identified and
killed.
They identified the Gator out of
all the Gators.
Yes, remember back in May, 61
year old woman was thrown from a
canoe and killed after the
alligator capsized the vessel?
Yes.
This week, investigators
confirmed that the same
alligator was captured and
euthanized.
I'd like to know the
characteristics.
What I'd like to know the
characteristics they look for.
OK, pay attention.
According to Florida Fish and
Wildlife Conservation
Commission, biologists were able
to confirm it was the same
animal through a combination of
evidence.
The alligator matched eyewitness
descriptions, the measurements
taken at the scene, including
his estimated length and
physical marking where officials
were recovered.
Oh, well, markings matched.
And then I think this is the the
final thing that actually made
them realize it was the one.
Her hand was found inside the.
Elevator that would that would
help identify, right?
Officials also recovered human
hand from the animal, which were
consistent with the victim, so
her hand was missing.
Maybe somebody placed it in
there.
Somebody placed it, Yeah,
another alligator to push off
the blame under this alligator.
Could have been.
It's a Patsy, yeah.
The Patsy Patsy Alligator.
We knew it.
That's.
A robot alligator.
Never catch me Fish and Wildlife
says the alligator's behavior,
aggressively approaching and
striking a canoe, was highly
unusual and met the criteria for
a nuisance alligator, prompting
an immediate response from
Travers.
The incident has renewed
warnings from wildlife officials
about the dangers of Florida
waterways, especially during
warmer months when the
alligators are more active and
territorial.
Canoes and kayaks, which sit low
in the water, can sometimes
resemble prey or pose A
perceived threat to alligators.
So she died.
Yeah, she died.
Yeah, this is a story later.
This is a.
Story he did a while back.
They didn't state that at the
time.
But now we know.
But now we know no hand.
No hand, no hand, a lot of bite
marks.
No hand for you.
Big and puffy because, you know,
the alligator takes them down,
stuffs them into, you know,
thing.
Yeah, they get waterlogged.
Yeah, good eating that way,
Yeah.
Make it soft.
Make it soft and mushy, yeah.
They got skills, cooking skills.
I guess I don't think they cook
it but.
Their own form of cooking in
this soft.
Water.
So if Brittany gets killed by an
alligator, are you going to with
the hand?
Machine.
Maybe a head missing, yeah.
Out of hand.
You add a hand, put the hand
back.
Oh, so now we're doing the combo
of the at?
That point, it's like a Cyborg.
It's OK, it's still her.
Don't ask the question you're
going to ask.
Palmer.
Find the hand.
Stop.
Can I recreate from the hand?
Yeah, you go the hand out.
Or do you just use the hand?
No, I just, I never love again,
Michael.
That's that's the end of it.
Oh, I got you.
So we need 3/4 of Brittany for
you to be happy.
Minimum.
Yeah, minimum of three.
I mean, there are a couple
parts.
Well, there are some, yeah, some
obvious parts you would, you
know, obviously.
I would I would prefer to be
intact, certainly.
Certainly.
Yeah, good for you.
Yeah, I.
Mean you're always at Preston
it's.
Not the same, not the same.
Too tall?
Oh, is that?
Is that the?
Line I like.
I like him short like you.
Yeah.
OK, older too older.
Yeah, so you hate Britney's
older?
No, I'm talking about if I
deviate it off.
Oh oh oh, you're my type, buddy.
Older Harrier.
I want you to.
You're always my number one, OK?
You know what he was, This is
what he was looking for.
The whole time, that's exactly
what he said.
No, I had a little skit built
in, but yesterday he said if I
keep talking about it, it means
it upsets me.
So I sort of skipped the skit,
but a couple of comments pop in
my head.
But then, yeah, he still can't
let it go, still can't let it.
So he sucks.
He got he sucks.
The skit was funny.
He, Preston.
Preston was going to call you.
Should do the skit.
Because he saw the show
yesterday with Law and he
realized he's you've already
moved on and he's out now.
And we were going to invite him
to join our our support group
for favorites of Mikey, right?
With the members being Mad Hunt,
John Carney.
Matt Hunt.
Mike Rosales OK and then me,
then boots, then me again and
now Preston.
Oh, you're in there twice.
Well, yeah, because after he got
tired of you, he did come back
to me, but then he got tired of
me again.
So now he moves on to Preston.
So it was twice for him.
Oh, you're talking about.
It's like a line.
No.
Well, that was going to be the
support group that that Preston
was going to be joining, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Matt Hunt would have been the
founding member.
I'm glad it doesn't bother you,
Ballmer.
I'm glad it doesn't bother you
at all that.
Would have been funny.
Yeah, All right.
A former NFL player has taken an
unusually personal dispute into
the courtroom.
OK, Did you guys hear about
this?
No.
It's making national headlines.
We're about to hear the news at
all.
We're about to.
Hear no, I can know this from
you.
You say that, but sometimes I
ask you things you have heard
about them.
Breaking news.
OK, Matt Kalil.
KALIL is how you say his name.
He's a former NFL football
player.
OK, A former Pro Bowl offensive
lineman has filed A lawsuit
against his ex-wife, model and
influencer Haley Kalil, alleging
she violates his privacy by
making intimate remarks about
him during a public live stream.
According to court filings,
Khalil claims his ex-wife shared
explicit commentary about his
body during a November live
stream appearance that quickly
went viral across social media.
He alleges that remarks were
deeply personal, unrelated to
any public interest, and cause
significant embarrassment,
harassment and emotional
distress not only for him, but
for his current family as well.
She talked about how big his
Weiner.
Was she's talking about this is
the guy that said that she's got
he's got a hog like a can,
right?
Or whatever 2 Coke cans I heard
they say.
Yeah, the lawsuit argues.
So you guys have heard of this?
Well, I heard it today on the
radio and I looked.
I saw it on social media, yeah.
The lawsuit argues that the
comments cross the line from
free expression into what Khalil
describes as an invasion of
privacy and public disclosure of
private facts.
He's seeking damages in excess
of $75,000 and has requested a
jury trial.
Will's legal team says that the
issue isn't celebrity gossip,
it's about setting boundaries
after a marriage ends,
especially when one party uses a
large online platform to discuss
his private matters.
Haley Khalil has publicly
responded saying she was shocked
by the lawsuit and emotionally
hurt by the filing.
Oh, double hurt, Double hurt.
The hurting offsets the hurting.
Right.
She maintains that her comments
were taken out of context and
notes that she spoke positively
about her former husband during
the same interview.
Yeah, it doesn't seem like
negative speaking.
Right.
Her representatives have
indicated they may move to
dismiss the case, citing free
speech protections.
Yeah, supposedly.
If it's true, you could say it.
That is, that's actually.
Right, that is true.
So all the judge has to do is
say you got to come.
In Pull down your pants, you got
to pull down your pants.
Yep, it's a hog.
Like, what are we doing?
That's ridiculous.
Does anybody else kind of
question why they keep saying
public live stream?
This is definitely has to be
only fans.
No, it had to be on a podcast.
She was probably on somebody's
podcast, I would imagine, yeah.
Of of.
She's a, well, she's also a
social influencer that goes by
Haley Bailey or something like
that.
Haley Bailey.
Yeah.
But so, I mean, it could have
been her own life straight.
She might have been sitting
there talking to you going.
My ex husband's got a big Wiener
is like 2 Coke cans.
I don't know if that means side
by side or one on top of the
other.
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
I decide.
I mean look, more power to you,
buddy.
I don't see what.
Right.
I don't see what the big deal
is.
You know his his, his new wife
is probably pissed.
That's what this is.
Well, it says and his family.
So yeah, it's probably the new,
Yeah.
She that's that's what this is
all about.
She's upset that the old wife
when he heard he's probably
going.
That's right.
So she's like you probably are
you going to do this is all
speculation, obviously, but
she's probably like, you know,
are you going to do something
about this?
Right.
Can you believe she's talking
about your Dick and you're going
to do?
Something.
And at that moment, you know
that as a man, you have to do
something.
Right, he goes.
Well, I could sue her.
Right.
Perfect idea you should.
Do that you let her know this.
You only go for $75,000.
I want a new portion.
You let her know that it's my
hog now.
It was on Twitch.
Yeah, it's a.
Live stream thing, right?
So that would make sense.
Did you Google it so you could
see the pictures?
Yeah, she.
Of his hog.
No, no, I did.
Not see that.
What do you think of it?
Wow is it really two coke?
Is it coke can left to right?
Is it like that big or round or
is it 2 coke cans on top of the
other?
What was it?
What do you think, Boots?
You don't even know who to talk,
who to switch to at this point.
I'm watching you come back and
forth.
They're so stuck.
Well, when you and skip FaceTime
tonight you can ask him because
he's he's always starved for
information and entertainment.
So right, he might watch or
twitch.
Yeah, you can twitch him.
You guys can twitch.
Together.
Do you want to twitch him?
What's?
Wrong with you guys.
Twitch again like it did last
summer.
I thought he would enjoy this
story.
I love when somebody watched the
podcast, you say you said mean
things about me like, OK, have
you, have you, have you seen,
have you seen?
I had a retailer today that went
after me like went kind of hard
in the paint.
It was super fun for me because
I just, I just parried him back.
I'm like, OK, dude, well, you
know, I have this question.
You know, he was like, well, I
am not interested in your
product period.
I'm like, OK, well what do you
sell in your shop?
Did I maybe text him too?
No.
Oh, 'cause there there was a
little overlap today, 'cause I
was texting from the dentist.
Where were you?
Yeah, you felt the you felt the
heat, huh?
No, I had nothing else to do.
I had planned on doing that.
Right, that's good.
So, so, so like, I'm like, well,
I just want to know what you
carry, you know, like what sells
well in your store because like
none.
Of your business.
Yeah.
Well, what retailers don't
understand is what sells well in
your store is usually what you
believe in.
So like if someone believes in
our product, you believe in post
on his cigars the way that we
do, it's going to sell well,
right?
And that's obvious.
So I'm trying to explain this to
this guy and he's getting mad.
He's like.
And that's the bottom line.
And then I wrote.
Oh nice.
And what do you think I wrote?
Because oh, so it was a text
that he.
Said so, and I wrote, because
Stone Cold said so.
Remark.
And then I sent the meme of
Stone Cold and he's like, have a
good day, I said.
Oh, that's when he hung up on
you and.
We were texting.
Oh, that's when he stopped
responding.
I was like you as well, buddy.
You as well.
What I love is in the beginning
he told you he wanted nothing to
do with all of it, but kept
responding.
Yeah, yeah.
I can't.
I don't let that go.
I'm like, oh.
I have to do that to my second
ex-wife.
Oh, angry.
OK, angry person.
Get her wound up to where she
starts misspelling.
Things caps start coming out
I'll.
Get a fire truck.
What?
Right.
Yeah, you're going to fire.
Jesus.
How do I fire truck something?
Wow.
Because the phone fixes it.
It won't let you send, you know,
the words.
So yeah, it's all sorts of
stuff.
Because she kept trying to do
it.
You want me to tuck something?
Want me to duck?
Quack.
What?
Right.
Quack, Quack.
Do you have a video, Michael?
I do not, Sir.
All right.
I sent you guys one.
Yeah, I know, but it's stupid.
Like the one he sent you.
He sent me one yesterday saying
it was the one you used and it
was 7.
Did you say it was?
No.
The seven things a woman wants
in a relationship.
No, that's not what it was.
That's something on your TikTok.
No, that's what came on the
phone.
I shall not.
Tell you it wasn't I'm telling
you I'm.
Like, there's no way Mikey let
him talk about that on the show.
Donald Trump and Dave Chappelle,
I told you about it yesterday.
Oh yeah.
But for some reason, your Tik
Tok's kind of weird.
Bummer.
You told me of a couple things.
Your.
Tik toks are a little off bro.
I don't know.
They're not funny.
But Deja probably don't want
you.
No.
Did you watch Someone do We had
to go on through?
You let us go through Polish
blackface, which is super weird.
That was not mine.
Super weird.
Well, you know, like, you know
what?
I expect you to screen it from
your people, you know.
I was going through today and I
ended up on this, this young
lady, she was a cute girl.
She's a a paraplegic or
quadriplegic, whatever in a
wheelchair.
But she had this trial surgery a
couple years ago.
So she has partial use of one
hand and the other and one arm
or something.
But she was trying to put a
ponytail in her hair.
I must have watched it for 15
minutes.
And.
Now she pops up all the time and
they're like, oh, he really
likes this more in your feet.
She got she got tangled up in
the thing and it was hilarious.
That is so wrong.
Well.
She meant it to be funny.
I mean, and, and she's trying to
like use her knee and her foot.
And it was funny when he showed
my wife.
She's like, you're stupid.
I'm going back just.
Like I'm glad that you're not
also responsible for sending
videos in this podcast.
I don't send those videos to
people.
Yeah, all right.
Cigar news Shenzi, a co-owner of
Havana's essay has been arrested
and deported to China.
Got him.
Making a dramatic escalation
escalation in an International
Criminal case that has rippled
through the global cigar
industry and brought forth by a
Cigar Hustler podcast.
Authorities in Cambodia
confirmed that they watched the
show and saw Chen was taken into
custody, stripped of his
Cambodian citizenship and
removed from the country earlier
this week.
Apparently he was hiding in
Cambodia.
I mean, that would make sense.
Why?
Because that's where all the
money is that he has, right
these citizen.
Well, with electronic banking
nowadays you could hide the
money anywhere you want.
I don't think he had just cash.
You don't think he's just
walking around with briefcase is
filled with cash?
No, like American drug dealer
who burned it to keep himself
warm in the winter time.
Yeah, No, the one your dog's
named after.
El chapo, El chapo, he did that.
Yeah, I mean, his daughter got
cold, so they just started
burning money.
Smart.
Yeah, he was placed on a flight
to China, where he is now
expected to face questioning and
potential prosecution by Chinese
authorities.
It's not going to go well.
Yeah, yeah.
No, he's he's innocent there.
Sure.
No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
Innocent or guilty, they're just
going to beat the shit out of
him.
You think so?
Yeah, there is no, you know, no
safety over there.
But isn't he protected there?
No, I thought that he was like,
that's.
Where he did most of the money
laundering.
He's not.
He's not American.
He's not American, he's Chinese.
OK, but Americans are the ones
that sanction all those things
against him, no?
But that doesn't mean he's
protected in another in an
international jail.
Got it.
Or prison.
Or wherever.
There must have been a warrant
out for him in China too,
because the Cambodian sent him
to China, right?
The arrest follows mounting
pressure from international law
enforcement agencies and
financial regular.
Wait, couldn't we just send the
army to get him like we did the
Maduro?
Too much money for?
That I think if we cared enough,
yes, I don't think we care
enough.
Yeah, this guy didn't have no
oil.
It seems like yeah, he doesn't
have any minerals, right?
Now, I saw it last night, A a
news reporter asked Trump, what
are we going to do with the oil
that we confiscated from
Venezuela?
Those three ships?
He goes, it's ours now.
Yeah.
And he goes in the boats.
That's mine too.
Right took the boats.
Taking the boats too.
Chen had been under scrutiny in
multiple jurisdictions, with
investigations tied to large
scale financial crimes and
transnational operations, while
details of the charges he will
face in China have not yet been
made public.
They're not going to say what it
is.
Officials describe the move as
part of a broader crackdown of
cross-border criminal activity
for the cigar world.
The news has immediate
consequences.
Chen's ownership stake in
Habanos SA, the global company
responsible for Cuban cigar
production and distribution, has
become a focal point of concern.
Industry insiders report that
partners, distributors and
government stakeholders are now
working to distance the company
from Chen and assesses and
assess and assess sorry how he
how his removal could affect
govern governances and
international business
relationships.
As of now, Habano's essay
continues normal operation, but
uncertainty remains whether
Chen's shares will be frozen,
transferred or forced into sale.
Situation is still developing
and additional announcements are
expected in the coming days.
So I talked to Ronnie at Secreto
about this.
Yeah, he's really following.
That he's got some interesting
points.
You know, realistically,
normally what happens in like
any type of Rico case or
anything, if you know, if one
person is bad in the business,
the whole thing is you're all
responsible.
Yeah, is.
That just in America though.
I don't know.
No, it's not because this
thing's in Cuba.
I mean, what?
What?
You're an accomplice.
So but like.
Cubans would have to say
something's bad.
But like, my point is that, you
know, well, like why does all of
this stuff not get just shut
down?
Like it's going to be
redistributed to other people,
other parties and like no one
else is going to be held
responsible.
Like, oh, it's kind of weird.
Shouldn't.
Unless everybody knocked on
them.
Yeah, but shouldn't have it all
imploded at that point.
It's supposed to, right?
But because I think it's just
'cause there's too much money
involved that they're not going
to let it go.
Well, it's kind of like the
whole Diddy thing, right?
Same thing.
I don't know, tell me how does
it like the dude?
34 minutes, No.
Those of you playing along at
home, Yeah. 33 and that and here
we are.
I watched my documentary.
There we go.
Diddy No.
How was it?
Well, think about it.
Nobody else got in trouble with
them.
Nobody else got in trouble?
Yeah.
It's kind of the same concept
right now, right?
Like there's nobody else being
brought up on charges.
I mean, that's a good point,
you're right.
There's no partners, no buddies,
no staff members.
I mean, definitely.
Like I thought when I first
heard this story, I was like, Oh
no, no, about Chen XI, guy Chen
XI.
I thought for sure, like all the
companies that he was involved
with were all in trouble, right?
I thought I was like, wow, this
is gonna be horrible for the
cigar industry.
So much to a point where all of
the other companies that are
just are kind of affiliated with
those other companies but not
directly involved with them.
Like they're still a separate
entity.
They didn't want to be mentioned
like to a point where they would
sending out cease and desist and
stuff.
Right.
So did the factory in the
Dominican Republic go open back
up now?
I don't know.
I have honestly no idea.
I thought the idea was they
closed it to squeeze him, right?
And now that they got them,
we're like, OK.
Everybody, everybody back to
them.
I mean, you still got to figure
out where these funds are going
and how they're going to this
guy.
Zurich on.
Zurich, they're never going to
find.
Them on the smallest level what
they're.
Going to go to Zurich, to Swiss
banking.
They're never going to.
Find them.
I think what happened if it's a
Rico case, right?
You guys said that everything
gets frozen.
That's that's so case is over,
right?
So the factory probably won't
open.
Is it Rico an American?
Thing I got to tell you, I know
you keep saying that.
I still don't know what.
I mean, first, we know he hasn't
done anything bad in America.
Nobody.
We, you know, we just talked
about him in other countries.
Well, he's linked to a business
that does business in the United
States.
Yeah, so, but they didn't close
their offices and sales force
here.
They closed the factory in
Dominican Republic.
OK, but like you.
Have a monies as transferred to
the US.
You how do you get involved with
a guy with a billion dollars and
not know that he's into
something suspect, right?
Like how have you not vetted
this person so.
He bought a billion dollars.
I went.
Right.
So let's just assume that
somebody else knew, right?
And if somebody else knew, that
means that there are other
criminal acts involved.
If there are other criminal acts
involved, then these companies
need to all be shut down.
You can't give back Cabano's
essay, like, because where's
that go?
That goes right back to Cuba,
right?
Right here.
Your shares, they're yours.
There's nothing we can do about
that.
Right?
All right, whatever.
Do you want with them?
Right.
I guess.
I guess I understand that to
some degree, but as far as
everything else, any other
business should be closed,
should be done, Altitus should
be in trouble, right?
Right, I don't know.
Yeah, no, that maybe.
None of the illegal money went
to alter this.
They made the cigars in the
factory with this guy.
Regardless.
Right.
But until.
The case is over.
They have no clue about that
until they do their their
research.
Well, that's kind of my here.
Well, here's my point.
My point is that you can get
away with the things as long as
there's AB involved.
Yeah, if it's a billion dollar
transaction and there's, I mean,
whatever what happened, that
crypto guy that, you know, The
Who stole all the money did like
6 months and then poof, he's
back.
Still haven't found the money?
Yeah, he's got all the crypto,
right?
His mom has it.
His mom has it.
Yeah, probably.
But you know.
Like tiny thumb drive hidden in
her house somewhere.
Again, I don't know how accurate
I am on these stories, but I can
tell you that like a lot of
these big guys, they never get
in trouble.
No, because they got enough
money.
They.
Got lawyers?
And even if this is
international, there's only one
other agency that's going to
come after them in inside of a
Rico case or anything like that,
that that's Interpol.
OK.
Interpol's the only other one.
Just.
OK, it's a stupid question, but
Interpol only has jurisdiction
where?
Anywhere outside the USI don't.
Think so.
I mean, I don't.
Yeah, I don't think they do in
America.
They probably don't in China.
I.
Don't know.
Here's the problem.
We don't Fact Check, so we have
no clue.
We have no idea.
Right.
No.
I'm sure Ben will tell us later
you know what wrong.
We were right, but here's the
funny part is like we don't Fact
Check.
You're right.
But I will tell you this, a lot
of these things will never make
sense.
Us like this is what has always
gotten was what I've always
found perplexing about our
society, right, is that we get
pissed off when the rich people
get away with things we get and
then those people normally say
the government is the right way
or we get upset about the
government screwing us over and
then we say the capitalist
people are the right way.
The reality is that there are
wrong people on both sides and
there are good people on both
sides, right?
And this is a scenario where
these guys have taken advantage
of the situation and they're
going to get away with it one
way or the other, right?
And that's not OK.
Yeah, that's my problem.
Yeah, you're right.
That's.
Well, maybe Cambodia made a
bunch of phone calls because
there's a lot of different
countries involved there.
It's like, what country can we
send him to where he gets in
trouble?
But all his other stuff, people
will be OK.
And then they go, well, China,
it's, you know, it's a communist
country sort of by itself.
Where does his money go?
Let me ask you that.
Oh, his money goes straight to
Trump.
No, it does.
It's mine now.
It's mine now.
This.
Is my money.
It goes to somebody.
Boat.
It goes to somebody high enough
up where it's where they just
take it.
Yeah, exactly.
They just take it.
Yeah, it goes to his daughter,
'cause he put everything in her
name.
It sees me.
It's just like if you don't pay
your car note, guess where that
car goes?
OK.
Who seized it?
That's my question.
Yeah, I don't know who sees this
guy's money.
I don't know where did it go?
We've heard nothing about any
money seizing.
We just heard he was sent to
China.
Right, You heard nothing.
Nothing.
You've heard nothing about.
Maybe you're right.
Maybe once he gets there, he's
sitting up in his big Chinese
palace going who?
Who?
I'm out now.
You've heard nothing about the
shares?
There's no.
Extradition from China?
Nothing about additional
criminal activity from other
people?
You've heard nothing.
Yeah, just his one name.
That's one guy.
There's no way he could run it
by himself, right?
That's my point, right?
Is his name spelled CHIN?
CHENC.
HI is his last name.
Yeah, but it's C.
HENZHI Chen Z.
It's wild, It's wild.
No one knows.
Nobody knows.
We're probably never here with
the money way and.
You're still going to be able to
get your money crystals.
He is not curly in US custody,
but has been indicted by the US
Department of Justice for
operating large scale scams
authorizing seizing billions in
Bitcoin.
However, he was recently
apprehended in Cambodia and
deported to China, where Chinese
Ministry of Public Security took
him into custody for
investigation.
So that's who has them right
now.
Yeah, and he's never getting out
of there.
He's never leaving.
Probably, yeah, No.
But no, don't send me.
Hey I have.
And then the UK Foreign Office
also imposed sanctions on Chen
Z.
So I mean, he's pretty much
going to die in jail.
Let's just be honest.
Because after he gets out of the
China one, if he ever does.
But he might not be going to
China.
Jail might be going to China.
Give me your money and you live
in a palace.
Right, we're going to put you
over.
Here, so I'm sure he had bank
accounts in America though, so
the government grabs those.
He sounds like he had bank
accounts in England.
That government grabs those bank
accounts wherever and they grab
it.
But most of my money's in China.
I mean, you remember, You
remember Nicholas Cage, right?
Warlord?
Yeah.
Lord of War, Whatever.
Yeah, Lord of War.
Yeah, Lord of War guys.
Like I finally got you.
He's like, OK, I'm going to walk
out this door and I'm just
going.
To go get you, but your phone's
going to ring and I'm going to
walk out of here, yeah.
And no one else got.
No one else is in trouble.
The phone rang, somebody told
him to let him go, and there he
went.
Congratulations.
Good job.
Thanks.
So Chen XI once, once he gets to
China, then he's just going to
walk out the door and start
making cigars for China.
I don't, I no, I don't know.
I don't know what happens with
this.
Guy suck.
I don't.
I don't know what happens with
this guy, and I'm not going to
begin to act like I know.
Here's what I do know.
I know that.
What the Tom Cruise movie where
he's trying to buy everybody a
Cadillac and they they turn him
down and then the DA gets a
phone call from the governor and
goes, you need to let him go.
And he goes, I should have taken
a Cadillacs and he just walks
out, right?
No, I mean like the the reality
is that no one else will get in
trouble, it'll be business as
usual, and someone will suck up
the majority of his funds and
put them somewhere right.
Somebody rolling cigars in
Dominican Republic will find a
giant bag of money under a
rolling.
I don't think it's like that.
I think it's somebody higher up.
No, I just meant they hit it,
not that he got paid off.
Gotcha.
He's cleaning.
He finds a loose floorboard on
the bottom.
In there.
Well, here you go.
I'm sure that one will get us in
trouble.
Go ahead, carry on with the next
story.
What is clear is that the arrest
and deportation of a sitting
corner marks one of the most
serious legal disruptions of
premium cigar history has faced
in years, and his full impact is
yet to be felt.
That's I'd like to see how much
further this goes because I
don't know how much further that
goes down the rabbit hole.
Eventually I think people start
getting isolated and protected,
right?
That's why everybody's
sheltering themselves away from
it.
We're not involved.
We're not involved.
I don't know.
Well, somebody else is involved.
I've never met him before I.
Mean, I don't know who this man
is.
He gave you $6 billion like
everybody gives me, Billy.
Cash everybody gave.
Me.
Yeah.
I don't know what you're talking
about.
I think it was with Epstein.
That's what I heard.
I heard it was on the island.
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popular Group of Five line and
adding new packaging options to
its original document series.
The headline release is the
Group of 5S E, the second Vitola
and Lucian's experimental Group
of Five family.
Unlike the original 5 by 52 RB
Robusto Robusto, this version is
a larger 6 by 56 Toro extra,
giving smokers A beefier, rich
experience.
Each cigar rise wrapped in
distinctive teal foil and Boxton
counts of 15 with a
manufacturer's retail price of
$18.60.
I couldn't understand what I
just read so I wasn't going.
To get there's a chance.
I didn't understand what I read.
I wasn't.
Going to get he's no longer
flipping his texting.
No, I love.
You.
The blend reportedly features
Nicaraguan Creola 98 Crow Ho 99
Tobacco's and is rolled by the
Agonorsa Leaf factory in
Nicaragua.
Interesting.
Lucian had previously announced
that the SE was shipped last
summer alongside other releases,
but those tobacco stocks never
reach retail shelves.
Oh, they shipped it, but they
never got anywhere.
Yeah, well, Dion is.
No, Dion is notorious for OK,
I'm going to probably screw this
up, but Dion, he's.
Going to call.
He's very protective of his
brand, right?
So if a product is made and he
feels like it's not going to,
it's not what he actually
blended, right?
He won't allow it to.
So it's possible, and I don't
know this for a fact, but it's
very possible that the product
came in and he announced it and
then he smokes.
He said this is not what?
This is not what I asked.
For right, this isn't the cigar
that I wanted.
It's not the droids that I was
looking.
For and rejected it, and
rejected the whole thing, made
them redo it.
Throws it around.
And they redid it and now here's
your release.
That's what I would speculate is
that what happened?
Is it?
Makes sense?
Yeah, instead of saying, Oh,
well, we screwed this.
Like, I mean, the guy is very
protective of his brand.
I think that that's great.
We should get him on the show.
We haven't had, we haven't
talked to Dion on.
The show, I don't know if he'll
come out or not.
He doesn't do events and stuff.
No, the one interaction we had
with him was 100 years ago and I
don't and my brothers.
Your brother pissed him.
Off.
It was a little rough, Yeah.
A.
Little Yeah, well, we hide him
in the closet now, so.
Right, He's not allowed to come
out anymore.
He might be living in a home
soon.
Going bad then then.
Then, oh God, Jesus.
He keeps up with his chest
pains.
Man, I don't.
Know oh man, when they said
yesterday that there was like a
cancer brain eating cancer or
something like that did you see
his eyes perk up?
I'm like, Oh my God, Greg, you
don't have a brain eating
cancer.
Maybe that's what I have.
It makes complete sense now when
I hit my head in the car
accident in the Jeep and my head
went in the swamp.
Maybe that's.
What it Maybe that's when I got
it.
A brain eating amoeba with my
Dunbarton tobacco.
And.
Truss has officially announced
its 2026 limited edition project
in the brand's unique year of
the series, titled Year of the
Pousers.
Right Pousers, Pousers.
Unlike Chinese Zodiac based
cigars, this series celebrates
real people from cigar community
and this year's honorees are
Michelle and Tom.
How'd you say their name?
Posers.
Poser, a well known cigar
smoking couple from Alaska.
I have heard of them, yeah.
So that's their last name.
Yes, OK.
They live in Alaska, but they
come every year to the Great
Smoke right down at Abe's.
Nice.
And Avon Soccer tight, so right,
Maybe cigar for them.
The release consists of two
distinct cigars packaged
together in a single box.
Both are 6 by 48 Parejos with a
classic big tail finish, but
they feature completely
different blends based on the
Powser's individual preferences.
Got.
It that's pretty.
That's kind of cool.
Michelle Segar draws inspiration
from her favorite Dunbarton
line, Sin Compermiso.
It's modified take on the Sin
Compermiso Palladium de Sacca,
crafted to bring sweeter,
creamier profile with cocoa and
coffee notes, making it
approachable but flavorful.
Tom Segar leans into bolder
territory, inspired by his love
for MI Carita Black and Tricky
Traca.
This version introduces a first
of its kind rapper called the
Kappa Camelon, a hybrid between
Havana 2000 and Connecticut
broadly.
So he has invented tobacco now.
Yeah, Sucka.
Yeah.
Yes, the result is a rich
profile with hints of burnt
caramel and salty Twain crafted
to stand out among traditional
Dunbarton blends.
The two cigars are produced in
different factories, Michelle's
at Hoya de Nicaragua and Tom's
at Nicaragua and American cigars
essay reflecting the distinct
lineage and character of each
blend.
Limited production is part of
the appeal.
Only 2700 boxes will be made,
with each box containing 7 of
Michelle's and seven of Tom's
cigars.
The suggested retail price is
set around.
Her Cigar, $22.00.
Boots.
Yeah, we're talking about
Dunbarn.
Yes, 32. 1975 really.
Wow, you went way up.
That's lower than 20 up, man.
I I mean, at least I was.
Really low in the 20s.
From right at 20.
And the shipment to retailers
expected in March 2020.
Sixth, we've already had
somebody asking.
For yeah, and we're not getting
them right.
Yeah, it was a show thing
apparently.
Yeah, if you didn't place an
order at the show, then you
don't get them right.
And look, the reality is that
Postani is doing better and
better every year, so it's
harder to get out of that booth
and go and place orders as a
retailer, right?
So, you know, I mean, our Rep
would have to come and see us,
but I don't think that's going
to happen The.
Release continues Dunbarn's
personal twist.
Unlimited editions focusing on
community connection, individual
stories rather than traditional
themes, making Year of the
Posers both a collectible and
tribute to passionate cigar
culture.
Has has there ever been a cigar
made for this?
Is basically like a fan, right?
Well, he made the duque first.
But that's not a fan.
Yeah, Duque is like in the
industry as much as you can be
without actually.
Being he's but he's the fan.
I mean, I guess you could call
him if I'm just saying he's a
little more involved, like he
goes and helps them in the
vents.
He works the booth and that kind
of stuff, and he comments on
everything that mentions Saka's
name on Facebook.
He's pretty awesome.
I like him because 2K's next
level.
Yeah, I can understand a cigar
being made for him, right,
Because he's like almost like a
right hand man without being on
payroll or if he is or not, I'm
not sure.
But like these people are not or
anything like that, right?
There may be somebody that hangs
out with them and stuff and they
comment on all this stuff and
buy all this stuff, but has
there ever been a cigar made?
I'm.
Sure there has been, but you
know, you know, it's, it's
really good marketing.
Right.
Yeah, it's cool.
You know, but realistically you
won't be able to get them here,
so is what it is.
All right, time for What's the
Score mini game?
What's the Score mini game?
June 30th, 2018 Brooks
Whittington cigars.
The cigar is the Regis Maduro
Corona. 85 OH.
You're going to go first.
OK, 89.
Cigar reviewed the Regis Maduro
Corona country of origin Non
disclosed.
Factory not disclosed.
Wrapper not disclosed.
Binder not disclosed, Filler not
disclosed.
Length 5 and an eighth by 42.
It's a Corona $7.60 and oh it's
a redux but he still smoked 3.
8590.
The Regis Maduro Corona delivers
a rich, consistent flavor
profile centered on dark
chocolate and earth, layered
with espresso, leather, oak and
subtle spice, with a vanilla
sweetness that grows stronger
and more impactful in the final
third.
Boots. 86. 92.
Construction is solid overall,
featuring a firm roll and
excellent draw, especially with
AV cut and burn that corrects
itself after early issues,
allowing for an enjoyable and
balanced smoking experience
through the final inch. 87. 91
He's looking it up, by the way.
He's got his phone on him.
I have my cigar on my left hand.
I.
Just saw you I'm.
Switching your cameras.
You had your phone.
I did not have my phone.
It would take forever to look.
I think he's been cheating this
whole time.
He always cheats.
No, I feel like you asked Palmer
the number so that way you don't
keep losing put.
Your phone over there.
When did he ask me the number?
Last night when he wasn't
answering you, and then he
finally answered.
Put your phone down.
He never answered my text
message.
Wow, he called me.
He was.
He was with a lot the whole
time, I told you.
I was coaching.
I.
Understand that now, but I mean,
your brother played into the the
shit he was talking about.
Well, they left at the same
time, but I don't think they
left together.
Like, thanks, Greg, that's a lot
of help.
It was great.
Palmer called me.
He's like, did he really leave
with law?
I was like 'cause I need to know
if I come by the.
Shop or not and get the files
like if law has it fine then I
don't have to do it.
No, but law is the reason why
you look so beautiful right now
on this camera.
I thought it was just because I
didn't wear a hat.
Nope.
The burn struggles early on
requiring correction and despite
gradual strength increases
throughout the cigar, it never
fully reaches a true medium body
which may leave strength seeking
smokers wanting more.
This is not the final thought,
right?
No.
No, the final thought is what's
left.
That was the third clue.
OK.
Third clue.
I can't go higher than 8787. 90
There are plenty of blends that
are extremely enjoyable despite
the fact that they are not
overly complex.
Unfortunately, the Regis Maduro
is more the latter than the
former.
The profile is full of dominant
earth and leather notes with
plenty of black pepper.
And while there is some slight
vanilla sweetness, especially in
the second-half, which is easily
the best part of the cigar,
there is never enough to
overcome the aforementioned
flavors.
Construction was fine and the
strength was non problematic,
but in the end, the Regis Maduro
Corona does little to
differentiate to differentiate
itself.
Can't say that word, apparently
from the Sea of Maduro rapper
blends that are already on the
market.
Were you sleeping?
No, I was listening.
He was sleeping.
Did he sleep when Law was here
yesterday?
He's.
So excited?
Of course not.
Yeah, he's so excited.
Yeah, he was.
He's so excited.
Yeah, 85.
Oh shit, thank you, I'm going to
go 86.
You went the wrong way.
Yeah, baby. 83, yeah. 83 Yep.
I win again.
He.
Wins again.
He's on a roll.
Yeah.
He's won every day this week.
Did he win yesterday?
Yep.
I hit it on the head yesterday.
He's.
Been he's been looking it up.
No, my phone's sitting over here
now.
We need to take his phone.
Yep.
Well, you know, tomorrow I'll be
sitting over there, so I'll be
able to tell.
Yeah, and then and then I'll
lose.
I'm like.
Oh, I lost, so that's what
happened.
Still won four days.
I went.
I won four out of five.
Damn 83 from Brooks.
That's brutal.
Yeah, I've well.
They didn't give.
I mean, what country?
We don't know.
What's the rapper?
What?
He said it was good and they
said the burn was good, but then
the burn.
Was like vanilla apparently.
A little bit.
It's nice.
It was just mild, right?
I think it's Placencia makes
that cigar.
I did look it up about.
That I think it was.
Cuban alter this up.
No, the alter this thing.
What?
Yeah, they're in a lot of
trouble.
Are they?
Yeah.
So they until he comes to the US
there will be no charges or
anything that are you know going
through for for anybody.
What do you mean no
investigation, no charges, no
nothing.
So but until then all to this is
not allowed to use that factory.
So they've already dispersed
out.
Yeah, they just moved to
somewhere else.
Right in in Nicaragua.
So until then, they can't go
back to that factory.
Interesting.
OK.
Anything else to add, Sir?
No.
If you don't want to talk about
that one thing we mentioned
before, then no, nothing.
No, I don't see the purpose.
OK, it's all right with me.
We're a little more lighthearted
than that anyway.
Yeah.
All right.
It's been episode 444.
That's a Scar Hustle podcast.
The apology episode. 444, thank
you very much.
We we'll see you tomorrow with
Terence Riley.
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