ACHP Episode 448 Parking Fees
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Welcome to a Cigar Hustler
podcast episode 448.
It's Thursday, January 14th,
2026.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host.
With me in engineering is Boots.
I'm about to get a camera for
the show Hippelhauser.
Hey, and my Co host we have
Mikey.
Oh, great.
Now Boots is getting a camera
for the show.
Yeah.
Stefan Kevitch.
I'm the one that said let's do
that because we had one laying.
Around it's funnier, not funny.
Yes, it is.
Yeah, it would be funny if you
said I'm Mike.
I forgot to red light Palmer.
That'd be funny.
I didn't forget, I didn't have
time.
Yeah.
Oh, just super busy.
Super busy.
Greg, upstairs, you're super
busy.
Greg's a super busy, shows up at
noon.
He.
Shows up at.
Noon, so just tells.
Me, I did something wrong and
then goes home.
But this is very.
Incorrect.
You almost had that intro
perfect, except you said January
14th again.
It is January.
Tomorrow will be the 14th.
January 15th.
What is today's date?
January 14th.
Oh so close.
I'm going to stop saying the
date, just eliminate that.
Just.
Eliminate that problem
altogether on today's show.
Meta passes out pink slips.
We have a new entry into the
portal.
We have a couple new entries in
the portal.
We have some very depressing
cigar news.
Depressing.
And yes, it's depressing.
We talked about some pirates in
the cigar news and then we have
a mini What's the score?
Yes, it's Q1, so QQ one is
entering the portal time.
You did mention this last week
that this would be when it would
be going.
This is where the cuts start
happening.
People start shifting and moving
around to different jobs so.
Clicky clicky's over there going
at it again.
He wanted to wait.
He wanted to light up the cigar
once we start.
Yeah, he wanted to wait till the
show started so that we could
get the clicky, clicky on it's.
Authentic.
Makes sense, It's authentic all.
Right, Mikey, how do we get some
of that chapter pod swag?
Well.
Mr. Paul, if you notice, I'm
wearing our new smoke.
And the newest shirt in the
line?
That's.
Right nice that is now available
at chapter pod.com.
It is smoke and subscribe.
So what this is this is a
YouTube esque, a YouTube esque
logo yes instead of this little
triangle that was here, I've
replaced it with the P Hello.
It's got a little smoky, smoky,
smoky smoke yes, smoke and.
Subscribe.
Where is the subscribe part?
I mean, I see the smoke right
here.
The words right there, Palmer.
I understand that, but he put up
a picture of smoke.
I thought it'd be something to
represent the subscribe part.
What?
I don't know what I would use
for that.
That doesn't even make any
sense.
Well, what is it?
You could have come up
something, an empty block with a
check in it or something.
Maybe I guess something you
know, I appreciate you fine
tuning my after I well.
It's not like you showed it to
us before you made it where we
could have had this discussion
before.
I feel like I showed you this.
No, I've never seen it before.
Really.
That's why it was up at the
window when you walked up.
I had no idea what you were
wearing.
Gotcha.
Wouldn't you just hit on the
smoke and subscribe?
Because that would be like the
button.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
Yeah.
It's like, like and subscribe.
Yeah.
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Totally different.
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Different Omar Ramsay, his
cousin.
Oh, hello, Omar.
It's actually in the city of
Ramsey, that's why it's Ramsay
Smoke shop.
Oh.
He was really funny.
He's just not funny Boots.
He doesn't play with that joke.
Oh.
Yeah.
Doesn't feel it though.
Nope.
No, sometimes they're not funny.
They aren't everybody else.
Well, somebody blessed me in
boots.
Yeah, by the way, I did.
I did see a comment, I think it
was from Ben, that sports are
OK.
That's just Ben one that's one.
I have 4 Nos to one.
Yes.
When you get 5 yeses then you're
good.
Listen, you did get one hockey
that you don't mention hockey at
all.
That's Paul.
So what difference that made you
don't count?
Did you call Paul Palmer and
tell him to comment in the?
Thing no.
If I told him If I called
though, I said don't say
anything about sports.
What else did we?
Oh, he's.
In charge.
Did you notice he's in charge of
our special teams?
Is he?
Paul is our special He's from
the Postagna special teams
division.
I got it, by the way.
Also, T Money mentioned that
your money maker's bet was
completely wrong that Michigan
State was not.
Those teams aren't even playing.
Michigan State is not playing
Michigan until January 30th.
So but I was right about the
win.
So good job on that.
Paul did say he wants to talk
about hockey.
Two people said there are two
different naval bases in
Washington, DC.
Yes.
Is there?
Yes.
Oh, I didn't know.
I love the.
Naval Shipyard is one of them.
You think that name is sort of
stick out I.
Love that the corrections.
I love the.
Corrections and I don't remember
the other one.
OK, so yeah, let's let's let's
get into this.
Yeah, right.
It's it's just every week they
or every day now they just
comment and correct us.
That's how it.
Is there's another shipyard
there?
I want somebody over with the
comments.
They're like, oh, so you know
when I told you before, they're
like, hey, so you know, can I be
dumb too and post and do a
podcast or something?
Like it takes some hard work,
but if you reach for the stars
you can accomplish that.
You can be stupid enough, man,
they wrote back.
That was a great answer.
All right now in the news, the
Meta Platforms, the parent
company of Facebook, Instagram
and WhatsApp, has started
cutting jobs as it rethinks its
long term strategy amid
disappointing results from its
metaverse investments.
This week, Meta confirmed that
it will eliminate roughly 10% of
the workforce in its Reality
Labs division.
I'm not sure what that is.
It's a.
World.
Which works on virtual and
augmented reality hardware and
software that amount to more
than 1000 to around 15,000
rolls.
Making it one of the first major
tech layoffs of 2026.
You're already about to yawn.
Yeah, no, my eyes are hurting.
You gave me extra lights.
Yes, I need.
Oh, is that?
It I wasn't going to yawn.
My eyes are burning now.
Good.
Reality Labs has been one of
Meta's biggest financial drains,
losing 10s of billions of
dollars over the last few years
on products such as VR headset,
social VR platforms, and
immersive and metaverse
experiences with limited
consumer traction.
I didn't even know they had any
of this stuff.
Yeah, they, you know the
goggles.
Oculus.
Well, I mean, I know what they
are, but I didn't know that was
owned by.
Facebook.
Yeah, well, well, originally it
wasn't, but then they bought it.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I feel that could possibly be
wrong.
Maybe, but it was a great idea.
Was it?
Yeah, have you ever used one?
Yeah, used it at your house and
one of that made my kids get one
for Christmas.
They're great.
They're cool, they're great.
You know, it's even.
Have you ever used it for a
sports game?
No.
I used it one time for
basketball.
Yeah, NBA and you're, it's like
you're sitting on the sideline,
really.
That's pretty cool.
So you're just watching the
gaming I'm playing.
How live was the game?
Was it a live game?
No, it's live game.
Yeah.
Like so they have the camera for
basketball where the check in
desk is for the players and it
has two cameras on it that can
see, you know, they cone out or
whatever.
They can see the whole stadium
down there.
So you can look left, you can
look right with the goggles on,
you can see people.
So it's not a video game, they
putting you into the game.
That's well.
You can play video games as
well, right?
Right.
So here's what I can tell you
'cause somebody asked me about
acquiring some for their kids or
whatever for Christmas.
And I said, well, you know,
first of all, you're going to
have to buy the best one.
You have to buy the most
technologically advanced 1,
whatever that is, right?
You always got to kind of keep
up with that.
So you're going to pay the
highest dollar.
And I got to tell you, after a
handful of times it just hits
and collects dust.
Oh, your kids don't play it?
No.
More, they're no longer.
Just sold them yours.
The only time that it's well, it
was like a Christmas gift.
Here's a slightly used.
Well, you clean it up and it
looks brand new again.
Don't tell Preston it's slightly
used.
That's a shot.
That was boots, by the way.
Done.
So, you know, like I can
understand that It's not, it's
not tracking, you know, it's
very easy.
It's much easier for the kids to
get on Xbox or PlayStation or
whatever if they want to play.
Games platform.
I would say Xbox is probably the
most common.
And it's easier because with the
Oculus you have to have like a
10 by 10 box or.
Whatever and then you know when
it goes to like doomscrolling or
something like that, the YouTube
shorts and all those other
things, you can do those on the
Xbox stuff as well.
I don't think you can do that,
nor would I want my kid doing
that on.
What's doomscrolling when you
start just rifling through
Reels, whether it's on Facebook,
Instagram or YouTube?
I.
Didn't know I had a name.
It's called doom scrolling.
So Palmer doom scrolls every.
Night.
He's a big doom scroller, yeah.
All the time, yeah.
I think you can, yeah.
Yeah, you can look at YouTube on
there.
Man, well, I don't want that to
happen.
Why is that?
Because I don't want my kids
sitting there.
That reminds me of, like, Batman
Forever, where, you know, you
would plug your head in with the
Riddler, with Jim Carrey's the
Riddler.
And it was just, you know, like,
yeah, that's exactly it.
I don't, you know, you only had
a camera.
On him, I'm sure that.
Was funny.
That would have been hilarious.
Because I can't see him at all
from over here with all this
bright light.
Like all in a.
Tan or something over here,
yeah.
Where are you doing well?
Yeah.
I mean, you're moving up in the
superstardom.
Yeah.
So, well, when we get you a
better camera, then we won't
need as big a lights, yeah.
Right Meta.
Meta executives have
acknowledged that those ventures
haven't gained the broad
adoption they expected.
The cutbacks are part of the
broader strategic pivot.
Meta is relocating resources
away from costly metaverse
projects and toward artificial
intelligence and wearable
technologies.
So what's the difference between
Metaverse and AI?
Wearable Technologies.
Yeah.
So that would be like the like
the Apple Glasses.
Oh, the everybody's got those
stuff.
Oakley has a really cool looking
pair.
Yeah, they do.
They're expensive.
Yeah, but I but meta but Oh
yeah.
So you're saying meta is doing
that now?
Yes, well how much was the
Oculus thing that you had to
buy?
Was like 3-4 hundred bucks
probably the glasses.
Glasses are about that same
price.
Aren't you 5?
The ones that I saw are 5.
Yeah, and they're polarized.
Well, Meta is directly linked to
Ray Ban and Oakley in these in
these glasses, right?
So that's what they're talking
about wearables.
Gotcha.
Now, the one issue with the like
how that works is there's
already some conflict with the
brands.
So from what I heard, Oakley
drops their sunglasses and it's
supposed to be kind of a big
hit.
And Ray Man instantly countered
with the attachment for your
wrist.
And there's like a heads up
display in in the sunglasses.
And like, Oakley didn't even get
an opportunity to to really kind
of promote their brand,
allegedly so.
It's kind of crazy, yeah, 'cause
you would think that both brands
would be able to do that at the
same time because it's really
Meadow who's who's the front
runner on.
The providing the technology,
right, Yeah.
So you kind of gave a.
Who gives more money?
Yeah, yeah, Little.
You think that's how the top 25
cigars are in certain?
Places it could be you.
Know very, very possible.
They all claim it's not, but
it's, you know, kind of weird.
I don't know.
I love Bear.
Bear gave us #2 for the justice.
I sent him a big check.
Send him a big check.
I will hope it wasn't too big.
He's.
Changing his last name to post
on you next year.
Oh, is it?
Yes.
What was the box blank?
What box we're?
We're broke.
We have no money here.
Right, we have no money, right?
Please smoke and subscribe to
The Triangle.
Will you take this?
Will you take this post dated
third party out of state?
Check from us and.
Cash it like a foreign bank,
yeah.
Company leaders are pushing
teams to focus on more AI driven
mobile features and next
generation wearable devices,
which have shown more user
interest and clear paths to
revenue.
Employees were notified this
week and the layoffs are being
rolled out across Reality Labs
unit throughout the week.
Meta Chief Technology Officer
Andrew Bosworth has framed the
shift as necessary to accelerate
adoption of technologies with
more immediate market potential.
This move makes a significant
recalibration for Meta, which
one spent heavily on the
metaverse as the company's next
frontier.
Now, with intense competition
from AI from rivals like Google
and Open AI, Meta appears to be
betting that AI enhances
products.
AI enhanced products will
deliver more value than
immersive virtual worlds in the
near term.
The AI stuff is already
progressing to be kind of wild,
like it's already opinionated on
some things that you're just
like, wait a second, that's not.
I don't think you should do
that.
Yeah, like.
That is not a good.
Idea like this is not you're not
providing data, you're trying to
sway my opinion, which is kind
of creepy.
It's literally Skynet.
It's literally sky, I like mine.
Which one do you use?
ChatGPT.
Yeah, ChatGPT.
That's.
Which I hear is not the best
one, but I've been using it for
so long now it answers the way I
wanted to answer and those are
the things I'm looking for.
Yes, Mr. Palmer, huge penis.
You have a huge penis.
Yes, that's how it addresses me.
Now all you need is the glasses.
You are very well endowed, Mr.
Palmer.
You.
Know what you can do though?
I found out.
I found out because somebody did
my wife's car.
You can have your phone play a
certain song or phrase every
time it connects to your car
play.
Really.
Yeah.
Interesting.
You did that.
Yeah, but I apparently there's
an app where you can get
phrases.
I mean, the songs are kind of
long.
I've rotated through a couple of
songs, like I don't want to hear
this song every time I get in
the car, right?
But if it was just like part of
it or like I feel the need, the
need for speed, that would be
kind of cool when you get in at
your car since then.
Right, that would be.
Amazing I.
Would love that right Maverick
over there.
I would like the what's the
guy's name from King of Queens
when he did Kevin James?
Is that his name?
Kevin James where he did the
NASCAR, he's like God bless our
troops, Oh yeah, God Bless
America and gentlemen star.
That would be great to get into
the car that would.
Be cool too.
I would, I'd have a lot more
speeding tickets at that.
Point I I seen the TikTok with
us, 'cause I I think they were
doing like the Harry Potter
theme song when you got into the
car.
Really.
Yeah, you can.
I mean, you can set up to do
anything.
Anything that you have on your
phone, it'll play.
That's crazy.
Interesting.
Have you guys wore the glasses
just by the way since we're on
the.
Top of the metas, yeah.
No, my Barber has them.
Yeah, my Barber has them too.
Yeah.
Yeah, does he?
Help cut the hair.
My Barber doesn't have them.
Yeah, well, your Barber is not
as cool as our barber's.
My barber's my wife.
You guys have sex with your
Barber?
I do not have sex with my
brother.
Oh, there you go.
No.
Can you grab your barber's boobs
as she's cutting?
Your hair?
Nope.
Nope, I can't do that either.
I can, but if I did, if I could
have done all those things, I
would also provide her with
metas.
Why does she need the metas for
they can barely do a find her
show on TV.
She never remember the streaming
service it's on.
I I think it's great for the
barbers because they can video,
you know, as they're cutting
hair, you know, there's a whole
bunch of different things that
they do with it.
It'd be good for the field man
for coaching.
How to record this play?
Does it show them how to cut
their cut your hair?
Maybe?
Maybe there's a piece sticking
out over here and it shows in
the glasses.
Yeah, maybe.
I mean, I've seen like
construction apps on it.
Well well the AI version of the
construction app, but like it
will measure distance.
Right.
Right.
So like if you're like walking a
property and you want to put a
fence on a property or
something, like you could say,
hey, meta, start measuring
distance from this point and you
can point where the point is and
it will start measuring as
you're walking.
That's wild.
My tape measure is.
Yeah, but now you don't need a
tape measure.
Now you can have $500 sunglasses
and gets it done for.
You.
Oh, instead of a $40 tape
measure.
Yeah. $40 Where are you buying
your tape measure?
I've had it for a long time.
I take care of my stuff.
It's. $40, yeah.
Yeah, the tape measure actually
pretty expensive.
Really.
The big Black and Decker Fat Max
or something that's.
Called I don't have tools.
I have cool neighbors that have
tools.
Oh, I don't like depend on other
people.
Yeah, they got like, if it has a
magnet in it, it throws an extra
$20 on it.
What?
Do you need a magnet for?
Like if you're doing any type of
frame or anything and you want.
To measure all the way up with
the hooks on the end for.
Yeah, but it's sometimes it's
always hook, bro.
Like say you go up 30 feet.
You don't take care of your
things.
OK, all right, moving on.
Fans heading to Hard Rock
Stadium this week for a College
Football Playoff National
championship between the Miami
Hurricanes and the Indiana
Hoosiers are facing more than
just steep ticket prices.
What are the ticket prices?
I don't know they're up there
though.
Retarded.
Yeah, why?
Is this like a really big game
or something?
I think it's location because
it's in Miami and Miami's there.
Miami's are Hurricanes are
there, Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's Hard Rock.
They're also confronting eye
watering parking fees that have
sparked widespread frustration
online, with ticket resale
prices already soaring into the
thousands.
Oh my Lord.
The cost of parking has become
another bitter pill to swallow
for supporters planning to make
the trip.
According to listings on
secondary sites like StubHub and
Tick Pick, the cheapest official
stadium parking pass is around.
Oh my Lord, 747 dollars.
That's correct.
For parking.
Yeah.
So the so the tickets are
anywhere from 2800 to 5500 for
regular tickets.
Jeez, that's probably upper
bowl.
Yeah.
And then if you want premium?
Or club seats.
See the game.
Yeah, if you want premium or
club seats, it's 8000 or more
and then ultra premium or close
seats can reach well into the
10s of thousands in some resale
platforms, 17,000 to 40,000.
That's wild, man.
And is it going to be sold out?
Oh yeah, dude, that's already,
it's already sold out.
It's ridiculous.
This is this is secondary market
stuff.
Oh, these are extra tickets.
This is people that bought them
and now they're flipping them.
It's sold out 65,000 people.
What if you bought them
originally?
What would you?
What did you pay the?
Original price, The stadium,
Yeah, whatever.
Oh, probably a few. 100 bucks
I'd assume.
I mean, that's a little more
reasonable.
Wow, I figured that would have
seemed absurd at most any other
event.
For fans looking to save a bit,
there are off sites across the
street with pedestrian walkways
into the stadium.
Price lower.
Only 280 if you park across the
street.
No blocky.
Oh yeah.
But those still feel steep
compared with normal game day
rates and local expectations.
To put the numbers in context,
even moderately priced events in
the Miami area typically have
parking fees well under $100.
That means this week's game, one
of the biggest in college
sports, has inflated not just
ticket prices, but all aspects
of attending in person.
The backlash on social media has
been loud and clear.
Any Fans describe the parking
lot cost as outrageous, with
some vowing to skip attending in
person at all, opting instead to
watch from home or find
alternative transport.
Oh, it'll probably be a big Uber
day.
Other note Others note that the
spike reflects broader trends in
premium sports events, where
supply, demand and 3rd party
sellers drive up costs for
everything from seats to
tailgate spots.
As kickoff approaches, the
debate over value versus
experience continues.
One thing is clear, fans are
talking about parking prices
almost as much as a game itself.
So how much would you pay?
What do you think is like a I'm
OK with this number to park to
go to a game?
20 bucks. $100. $100.20 and 100.
Yeah, well, I've been to a
football game.
You have.
Yeah, multiple, OK.
I've been to football games too,
but I still don't mean I'm
paying 100.
Dollars.
If you want to park near the
stadium, it's 100 bucks or more.
Oh, I mean for all my games that
I parked close to the stadium,
it's usually between 30 and 40
bucks.
Oh, if you're referring to
where, when I went with you,
where we parked, Yeah, that.
But that's not right at the
stadium, right?
It's across the street, yeah.
So if you want to park at the
stadium, right, it's probably
going to be somewhere around 100
a 150.
Bucks a hundo and you're OK with
that amount?
Yeah, if you're.
Right there at the stadium.
I pay $60 to park across the
street.
That's all it is.
What's that?
I save $60.00 by parking on the
other side of the road.
Why is it a question?
Well.
Well, sometimes too, like if, if
let's say it's a football game.
Football game also has all the
tailgating and all the good
tailgating.
People park at the stadium,
right, if you will.
Now if you have kids and stuff
is different, right?
Because you're not going there
for the drinking.
And stuff.
So OK, if I'm going for the
tailgating, can I still park
across the street and walk over
to Mikey's car?
And yeah, I mean.
He can.
Fruit and beer?
Totally.
Tailgate crash.
Yeah, yeah.
You can.
Well, no, I mean, you've invited
me.
He's talking about the
tailgaters spending $100.00 so.
Yeah, no, yeah.
But a lot of them, you know,
have their grills and setups and
stuff.
So they're not going to park
across the street and bring all
that over.
They're going.
To no you, you tailgate across
the street.
Yeah, there are plenty of people
at tailgate in the parking lot
then, and I park at right.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's not.
And it's not far away from a
stadium.
Yeah, I mean, it's across the
street.
Like here are the dumpster.
I would say, yeah, that it's
arguably closer than some of
the, you know, direct spots in
the.
Right.
It's like way off on the left
side of the building or
something.
Exactly.
No, for a basketball game I'm
not paying more than 50 bucks so
it's different per. 50s what you
for line. 50s for basketball,
hundreds for football.
What have you seen in a hockey
game?
I'm not fucking.
Paying.
Wait a second, you used to do
the valet VIP stuff?
5050 bucks that was 50.
Yeah, not anymore.
It's 150.
Yeah, so I haven't been to a
game in a minute.
It's 150 and it's cash like they
don't even.
Cash.
And it's weird.
It's like.
Wait, are you on the side where
you can't walk in anymore?
Correct, it's on like the north
side of the building.
It's a different valet.
So I think that guy, yeah, is I
don't think that's real parking,
to be honest.
What's he doing?
He's just taking cars.
Yeah, so, so actually I did go
to one game this year.
Ginger took me and Carlos when
we went, I was like, oh, I was
parking the spot I used to park
in.
He's like, OK, yeah, whatever.
So I went in there and you can't
walk in anymore.
But there was like this shady
dude, like out front.
He's like, yo, right here, right
here.
I think what he did is like
they, they maybe open this area
like after everybody's passed it
a little bit, right, Right.
And they open it up and they
probably illegally are parking
people and nobody has caught it
yet.
Oh wow.
Because.
This dude's gone after the start
of the game.
Like he's gone.
No kidding.
Well, why hang around?
You guys have already paid and
gone.
Started to park, pay my money,
I'm out of here.
Right, he's just making beer
money, baby, for the next.
Week 50 bucks a pop, he's making
more than beer money.
Or crack money.
I don't know how much crack is
nowadays.
I mean, I got to tell you that
the experience that's happened
at the stadium is definitely
different, especially for me,
maybe just 'cause I'm getting a
little bit older, but it's
stressful, dude, it is so
stressful.
I don't, you know, you go to the
game, you're, you pay an arm and
a leg for the tickets, you park
the car, you hope to make it.
You know, like, I mean, Tampa's
supposed to be an hour and a
half away.
It's always at least two hours
for traffic.
That is just traffic for no
reason.
You know, you get the irate
person in your vicinity that is
mad if your kids standing or you
know, whatever, right?
I'm just like man.
I can get all the fun out of it.
Right.
I can just sit at home well.
You haven't even hit the food
yet.
Right, I got to, you know, you
got to crush a minimum 160.
Yeah, if it eat.
Yeah, if there's two or three of
you.
Bro, that's even Little Caesars.
Like at Tampa, they have Little
Caesars.
Yeah, this is nothing special,
right?
Like you're not walking a Little
Caesars, they got a little PDQ
station.
You're not walking on that PDQ
station.
I'm breaking a hundo.
I don't know if there's more
than one of you.
It's wild.
So you know, I'm like like,
that's why I kind of got to the
point where I'm like, this is
just too much.
I'm I'm no longer enjoying
myself.
I.
I had fun.
Yeah, I went in to create
memories with my wife and kids,
right and and some of their
friends and stuff and it's no
longer that I would much rather
it's going.
To be something we all discuss
in therapy.
No, I mean not to that.
Daddy beat up another man last
week.
I don't.
Know no, it's just not going to
be a memory anymore.
I mean, well, not a well, yeah,
the memories are gone.
Like we're like Jax is now he's
a little bit older, right?
So like I can still we can still
go to a game every once in a
while.
We don't have to go to all of
them, right?
So, and and not only that, but
like we can go visit other
stadiums at this point.
Like, hey, let's go fly out.
Like I would love to go to
Minnesota.
I'd love to see that stadium,
right?
Yeah, because what's another
$100 per person at this point?
Yeah, you know, you spend a
couple extra 100 bucks and then
you have a really awesome
experience, right?
And you get to see different
teams or whatever the case may
be.
And then, you know, if you if
whatever, like I, I mean, I
don't mind the conflict.
I guess to some degree.
I I think that the, the harder
part is really anticipating that
it's going to happen and then
once it happens, I'm finally
better.
Oh, if you go to other stadiums
with Tampa gear on, yeah.
Oh no, even at Tampa with.
You know Tampa going to Tampa,
you know something's going to
happen.
The worst part about it is
waiting for it to happen.
Right.
Like when somebody gets mad that
Jack's standing, Oh, can you
have your oh, can you sit down?
Sit down.
I'm like, I'm sorry, he's going
to stand, right?
Once that has happened, I'm like
OK, perfect, like.
Maybe you should just get
completely out of rate the first
time so you set the.
Standard right here.
As soon as you walk in, you
should go look.
He's going to stand the entire
time.
And I will fuck all you up.
I will fuck all of you right
here and embarrass you in front
of your wives.
Right?
We all good now I'm going to
watch the game.
Bro, recently I went to that
Daytona lights, Christmas
lights, remember that was a
little bit ago when they do
that, all the Christmas lights,
Palmer.
In Daytona, yeah.
I didn't know they didn't.
I've been to Saint Augustine.
At the Speedway you can drive
through.
No, I didn't know.
That OK, so you can you can you
pull up right there's a line to
get in of course and as you're
going through like they have a
sign where it says please shut
off your headlights if you can.
Well, my truck does not do that.
It's like a.
Safety LED light, yeah, it's.
Like a safety feature.
So there was this guy in front
of me and he's like flipping out
that I have my lights on, right?
And I tried everything.
I even Googled.
How to turn my lights off?
Yeah, like I'd shut off my
truck.
Chad, GBT said.
You idiot, you flipped the
button.
Yeah, No, you couldn't do that.
You can't do that.
I already did it.
I tried.
You can't even turn them off if
the truck's on so.
Should I turn your truck off?
While you're driving through
the.
Fence and just push it.
Yeah, push it.
Let it.
Away.
So this guy's flipping out,
right?
That's why you have ginger,
right?
So he he finally pulls over like
erratically right?
And I've got Tia and the girls
in the car.
OK.
I got like the old boots, like
when I was a teenager, I was a
little different.
So I got a little a little hyped
up when this guy got out of his
car and started walking towards
my truck as I'm driving forward
and he had a dog and his wife in
the car or a girl whoever, but
he was an older gentleman.
He's like whore.
Why?
Don't you turn off your effing
lights and dah dah dah dah bro I
slammed the brakes on got out of
the truck.
I was like why don't you shut up
and get back in your car before
I slap you, your wife and your
the dog.
Oh my God, why would you slap
the dog?
Probably not the right approach
there, but just.
For the rest, well, he got back
in the car and I just got.
Then I got back in my.
Car to get his gun and then shot
boot.
I mean, you could have said, hey
man, really sorry my lights
don't turn off.
Sorry, I just said the standard.
I guess I don't know.
That was, that was the standard.
Next year, take Tia's car.
Well, that's what she said.
She's like, obviously we don't
take your truck anymore to the
lights.
She's he's embarrassed.
This again, girls, I'm so sorry.
Well, yeah, I apologize to the
girls.
When I got back to the truck I
was like, oh, sorry girls.
Why would you?
Get all the.
Characters as they're hiding
behind the seats.
No, I just don't.
I don't like to get like super
nutty and.
Aggressive.
Yeah, the words aggressive, not
nutty.
It's aggressive.
Yeah, you got to de escalate
buddy.
That's the that is the.
Situation.
I usually do, but for some
reason you were triggered.
I was, yeah, I got hyped.
I was like.
He was waiting for the guy
because the guy's brake check,
he got out brake checking him.
He's waiting on it to happen.
He got outside of the guy was
like a pip squeak.
He's like, oh.
Perfect.
I can take him and the.
Dog, I'll kick his ass and his
dog.
That's right, slap his wife on
the way back.
Poodle dog he's got.
All right, what were we talking?
About we had some portal, you
know, no, that was sports is
over.
Now we're talking about parking,
and all of a sudden now we're
doing Christmas lights at
Daytona.
Yeah, it's not enjoyable.
So what?
What did they do with the?
How are the Christmas lights set
up?
They just like put them in the
stands and stuff.
Dude, it's like a tunnel of
lights and you know, it's a
whole bunch.
Of I've driven through the
tunnel on a motorcycle by the
way, but I mean.
With your light off.
I don't know.
They left it open and me and a
friend were taking a trip and
we're like, look, that's open,
let's ride through that.
It's like I rode my motorcycle
on the on the track a little
bit, then we got chased away.
I think it's like 20 or 30 bucks
and you get the drive through
with the kids and it's, you
know, you play music on the
radio.
That's cool.
Cool experience.
Couldn't turn the radio off
either, no.
Radio's stuck on lights are on.
Radio's on and the lights, old
man.
Get back in your car.
Whatever, I'm going to slap your
dog.
Slap your dog before we move on
to the next thing.
I do have the face value of the
tickets.
OK.
The original value that the.
Original face.
Value.
Oh yes, what was?
That so the original face value
upper level 475 lower end zone
850 club sideline 1100 N
sideline club 14. 100 freedom
dollars, buddy.
Yeah.
Oh.
Shit, God bless.
But that's like if you you
basically 10 times them now.
Do they kill each other during
the game or something?
Is it like gladiator stuff?
What?
What is with the prices of this
sports game?
Well, I mean, I think that a lot
of things have kind of played
out here.
It's in Miami and it is the
Canes.
The Canes haven't haven't been
there in a long time.
Yeah.
And the Indiana.
Hoosiers.
It's not the Canes game.
It's a bowl game of some.
Kind, Yeah.
And they've this is this is the
one.
This is like the Super Bowl for
college.
I really it was a bowls game.
I thought it was just a
Hurricanes playing this other.
Team No, this is this is
ridiculous.
No, and and the the the other
coach is amazing and.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
And the so you know, and they
they are talking about this team
like they are a Wrecking Ball.
They're comparing them now to
the 2019 LSU team.
Oh my word, which is huge, dude,
Like huge.
I know that you don't think it's
a big deal.
No, I don't know but.
We're talking about Joe Burrow,
We're talking about Jamar Chase.
We're talking about like.
Some big.
Players.
There was another guy too, that
was a big receiver on it and
that.
What's that?
Jarvis Landry is.
Oh yeah, Jarvis Landry, like it
was, they were, they were a
juggernaut of a team.
So.
And they're using that they're
that's that's what they're
they're not even talking about
the Keynes at this point.
They're saying, you know, if
these two teams who could have
met, met up, who would win?
Which I don't think is fair
because honestly I think the
Keynes are going to give them a
run for their money so.
So it says also here's some
little facts of it, is that most
of these prices, the initial
face value wasn't open to the
public.
It was only students, season
ticket holders and donors.
And then after only part of the
stadium was sold to those
people, then the remainder was
still not sold to the public, it
was sold to brokers.
Wow, right?
What a racket.
Right.
Shit.
Wild.
OK, well, let's move on.
We've covered enough.
Sports.
Sorry.
Yeah, sorry.
Palmer you happy, Ben?
All right.
Thanks, Ben.
The other four of you, I'm very
sorry, yeah.
The four of you, I'm very sorry.
We have some portal entries now.
The first one in the portal is a
sad one.
Yes, Willy.
Mariante.
Mariante.
That's how you said to spell it.
Mariante.
Mariante is separated from LA
Roar cigars.
Oh man.
We have no other further
information.
We don't know why.
We don't know if he was fired,
if he quit.
We just know he's no longer with
them.
And he's gone again.
Who's he with?
Who's he with before La Aurora?
La Aurora.
La Aurora once before.
No, he was one in between there.
I thought it was 2.
Yeah, there was two, he did La
Aurora and two other ones and
they went back to La Aurora,
right.
And now he's and.
He was happy to be home.
He gave this wonderful post and
apparently now it didn't work
out.
You think, you think
hypothetically, OK, You think
because he moved from down South
to up here.
No, OK, No, I don't have
anything to do with it.
I don't think that's the case at
all.
I think that if I were to
speculate, man, I don't want to
speculate because.
He's the only guy for them.
He seems like a good dude and he
seems like a good sales guy.
So he.
Was, I don't think they called
him, say, I think he was like a
brand ambassador or something.
Normally what happens is if
you're a brand ambassador, when
it comes to budget cuts, you're
the first one to go.
That's why if you notice, like
Law and Jack, when they're
Kamacha, they're not brand
ambassadors.
They're the brand activators
for.
Right, it's a little different.
Right.
Like I don't want, I don't want
that term.
I don't want that term attached
to me.
Brand ambassador goes to
parties.
How much that got Megan get him
out of here.
Get.
Him.
But we have somebody else go to
the party, right?
Hire an intern.
Right.
Just make the Rep show up.
Do you think he stays in the
cigar business?
Yes, yeah, sure.
I mean, that's what he knows.
We'll just we'll.
Get picked up, he'll get picked
up.
Radio or something before that.
Well, I think he's pretty good
at what he does.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
And he's he's a likable guy.
So I mean that helps he's.
A very likable guy.
What do you do you think there's
a do you have speculation of any
company?
No.
No good fit for him.
It's just a question of what's
going on, what's open in the
space, right, and who's looking
to kind of shake things up.
And this is the time where all
of this happens.
That's why we call it Q1
entering the portal.
General is having their big
meeting this week here in
Florida.
They are.
So I mean, something could pop
out of that.
Well, sadly, I heard of a
passing of a guy that was the
indie.
I think he's like the Indiana
Rep in that territory.
I'm going to totally screw up
his name because I don't know
him.
He's like Michael Sorbo or
something.
But he was big in the industry
for a long period of time and I
believe he had a heart attack.
From what I understand, he
didn't make the meeting because
he wasn't feeling well.
So that's unfortunate, man.
That's.
I have a friend who's a general
Rep.
She flew in for it, and I saw
Justin was flying in for it,
too.
So they must all come here.
Right?
All right, moving on.
Jerry Cutrone, is that how you
say his last name?
He has left Joseph Cigars.
He has left Joseph Cigars
retail.
As of today he has announced he
is with, do you say SAG or sag?
SAG.
SAG imports as the Texas
territory manager.
Yes, congratulations, Jerry.
Thank you, Jerry.
Oh, no, thank you.
Congratulations.
Thank you, Jerry.
Thank you, Jerry.
Thank you, Jerry, for moving on.
Jerry.
Jerry.
Jerry, I called him on his very
last day apparently, and he
goes, I'm leaving tomorrow.
I was like so big order.
Yeah, that's yeah, that should
have been the move.
Big order, right?
I called him too, and he's like,
hey, I'm with a Rep.
I'm like, so why wouldn't you
take my call?
Yeah, yeah.
Most places take my call.
They'll say I'm with a Rep, I
go, you tell them who you're
talking to.
Yeah, well, like let's.
Just keep talking.
Like, why wouldn't you take my
first of all, you're not even
going to be dealing with that
person tomorrow.
Like you got to deal with me for
the rest of your life, right?
And you're not going to take
friends, you're not going to
take the call.
You're out of your mind.
Right.
Sometimes I like to ask who it
is, see if I know him too.
And what's his name.
Oh, tell him I said hi.
Oh, I don't know how that put
him on the phone.
Put him on the phone.
Tell him take his shit and get
out of here.
Tell him you need more space for
my stuff and he's got to leave.
All right, Half Wheel today
released Company of the Year
20250 races, Cubanas Cigars USA
race.
Really.
RAICES, how do you say that?
Rice.
Yeah.
Rice.
Rice.
Rice.
They're like Nicaragua.
I'd say rice.
But I'm going to stick with
races for right now.
That sounds like races.
Yeah, races.
Is it a Cuban?
Cuban cigars?
Cubanas.
Cubanas.
Wow.
That's isn't that Pete
Hernandez?
Isn't that the Hernandez
brothers?
No, no.
Who reps that?
So it was Alec Bradley and now
this guy, like he was the the,
correct me if I'm wrong here,
but I believe that this guy
started the factory for Alec
Bradley and he left the industry
and he came back with a very
similar name.
I mean, he's pretty well
entrenched in the industry.
He's already kind of expanded
into international and, and all
these other things kind of hit
the ground running.
So he knows what he's doing and.
He had all the well, he had all
the connections.
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's.
Yeah, that's the reason I have
to leave.
The industry is where your
connections are.
Yeah.
You know, like if, if, you know,
if you quit Postagna or we fired
you, like you would go back to,
you know, the three, the three
or four retailers that you're
friends with and they would
carry your product, right.
You know, So like, you know what
you're doing, right.
That was me casually throwing
shade.
I understand, right?
See how I see how you didn't
respond to my joke and I don't?
I don't respond to your joke.
Yeah, but mine are funny.
No, they're not.
I haven't seen nobody commenting
yet.
God bless you for being on the
show.
Yeah, I mean, they somebody
blessed me and Boots for being
on the show.
Oh, God bless both of you.
Thank you.
Yes.
All right, they also released a
2025 Factory of the Year.
It's got another weird name,
Tabacos Cubanas.
Located Nestle, Nicaragua,
Tabacos Cubanas is the home of
padrone.
So I assume that's all they make
is padrone, yes.
Yeah, they don't make anybody
else's stuff.
No, no.
So like they just say the
padrone factory.
Because it has a name.
But yeah, it's not.
Padrone.
Factory say his name.
Padrone.
No, that's not it.
Yeah, it's just right here on
the thing.
No, it's capicos.
Capicos.
No, that's what I'm real lunch.
I mean tacos.
Oh really?
Tacos.
Cuban tacos for padrone.
Perfect.
They have Cuban tacos in the
yes.
You know I haven't.
I don't think I've tried that
60s yet.
Apparently I need to try.
It the 60's the what?
Yeah, it's the number one or
whatever.
But you're on 60th, apparently.
It's got a lot of reviews, a lot
of raving reviews.
Oh, oh I have.
I have reached out to Lou Cross
from Lower Cigars.
He is sending us some cigars for
the Patriots.
Oh, very nice.
And then maybe we can have him
on to be a a a guest host.
Does he live here?
Maybe he's.
He lives in Tallahassee.
Oh, OK, sure.
Was that a six hour drive?
Yeah, but he does events down
this way all the time.
We'll work it out when it's
convenient for everybody.
You got to prepare them, though,
because it's, you know, a lot of
reading.
Lot of reading.
Terrance kind of struggle with
the words.
In ball busting so.
Well, he'll I don't.
I don't If I don't know somebody
well enough, I made that might
not be true.
Yeah, but.
It's not never ball busting.
He's good-natured.
He he could.
He could take it.
Yeah, have a good time, Yeah.
Yeah, Palmer's the one writing
the scripts.
That's true.
I don't write his script though.
But you ball bust.
Maybe I should on the screen?
They should start writing your
screen.
Start writing my script.
We'll have a lot of fish stories
for for Lou.
Right.
What kind of lure would work
well for this one, Lou?
Large bass, pound and.
All right, now moving on to
cigar news.
Kind of already in it, but all
right.
Yeah, but that was it was before
on Monday, January 12th, Charles
again with the names GERAGI.
Pronounce it.
Geragi Geragi, 67, and his
brother Richard, the owners of
All American Tobacco LLC, were
fatally shot at their company
offices in Boca Raton, FL.
All American Tobacco is one of
the largest importers of
handmade cigars, dealing with
the logistics of importing the
cigars to the US from factories
in Central and Latin America,
working with customs officials,
and then having the cigars
delivered to cigar company
warehouses.
The company is not well known to
most people within the cigar
business.
Shipping records show it has
imported cigars for a long list
of companies like Agonorsa, AJ
Fernandez, Altodes, La Aurora,
Oliva and many others.
The company also imports a
variety of other non tobacco
goods from all over the world.
According to Boynton Beach
Police Department, the two
brothers were shot by Nassar
Dewala, 39, of West Palm Beach.
He's he's a brother of Saddam
Dewala, who was found guilty of
four felony counts of Grand
Theft over $100,000 to police
claim claim that said sad man
SADMAN is that Saddam, It's not
Saddam.
Saddam.
Mr. Dewala defrauded the
brothers of more than $5
million.
Charles planned to meet with
Nassar on Monday afternoon to
discuss getting some of that
money back, according to the
police.
During the meeting, shortly
after 4:00 PM, Mr. Dewala pulled
a gun from his waistband and
fatally shot both brothers at
the company's 2400 High Ridge
Rd. offices.
Dewala ran across the street and
then got into a white Cadillac
SUV.
Less than an hour later, Citizen
reported a suspicious vehicle
roughly 2.5 miles away from the
location on the shooting traffic
stop was initiated.
The police claim that Douala
refused to stop, and less than a
mile later he fatally shot
himself before the SUV crashed
to a tree.
I didn't know that part.
Yeah.
According to a police statement,
Douala was investigated as part
of the fraud investigation but
was not charged.
This is a developing story and
we'll have more information to
become available.
So who?
Who gave the money to who?
OK, so the people call him
Chuck, I believe Charles.
Charles, yeah.
And I, I think, I believe that
Skip does business with these,
with this guy as an importer.
He mentions he mentioned they
were friends but he would
consider them friends other than
a business associate so he must
do business.
With them, right, and I will and
I will tell you this that that
it takes you got to be a
specific caliber of individual
in order to do business with
Skip.
He has sure right?
Check.
Boxes dot your IS cross your T's
type of a person very, you know,
like so they're obviously very
good at what they what they did.
You know, obviously those are a
lot of big names that are in the
industry that have done business
with them.
So there's definitely some
notoriety there.
Right #1 #2 Allegedly what had
what had occurred?
Was this one Brother Dwalla or
whatever.
DAWL.
A had worked for them and had
taken money, I don't know how,
maybe out of checks or something
like that, you know, and
embezzled the cash out of the
company.
I think I believe and again I'm
not 100% positive on this, this
is just what I've heard that it
was in the realm of a few
$100,000.
He was, according to this, he
was charged with four counts of
grand larceny at $100,000.
Right?
OK.
But they're also throwing the
figure around that he took total
5 million.
Well, OK.
So I think I think allegedly the
case is that when you have taken
can X amount out over a period
of time, you can argue the fact
that because this has happened
he has cost this business
$5,000,000, right, That makes
sense and that would be the
lawsuit against him the.
Estimated value.
Right, So now the lawsuit is
lingering and because of that,
because of that going on,
allegedly he's kept in prison
for this time because of the
amount, right?
So I'm gonna say allegedly a lot
on this one, guys.
So allegedly his brother went
and took the meeting with the
other two brothers, the owner of
the company, Chuck and his
brother.
And he wanted to get the amount
of for the lawsuit lowered so
that he could get his brother
out of prison when assuming
assumably they said no.
And whoever knows how that
conversation went down, I mean,
I'm not in the room at that
point.
When he realized, when he came
to the, you know, when he
realized that the price, that
the value wasn't going to be
lowered, he then got angry,
allegedly shot them right and
then drove down the street.
So.
And then shot himself.
This is.
That doesn't help the lawsuit.
No, no, you know.
Why would well, how does that
work?
I mean, if if they're if those
if the brothers of the company
were suing, I'm assuming.
I mean, that would be why
there's a lawsuit.
Well, but he is in jail for
grand larceny, which is not a
lawsuit.
That is a crime.
You don't go in jail because
somebody's suing you.
This is all.
Well, it's part of the case.
Right.
This is the rumors that I've
heard around the campfire so
far, right?
And again, who knows how
accurate they are?
It's all allegedly.
Like this is all alleged stuff.
Well, what he's getting at, if
he, you know, killed the two
brothers on the company, part of
it he might have been thinking,
part of it goes away at that
point because there's nobody.
And then his brother would be,
they would be a reduced
sentence.
I mean, I don't, I don't know.
And that seems like a bit of a
stretch, Yeah.
Well, you think, but now I'm
going to jail for murder because
I just killed these two guys.
Well, he killed himself as well.
Well, he did, yes.
He drove 2 1/2 miles away.
Probably the calm down low like,
oh, what didn't I just do?
Yeah.
Well, I mean dude, this is
security.
Extremely unfortunate.
Yeah.
I've, you know, from the the
people that I've spoken to have
said nothing but good things
about these two brothers,
especially Chuck, apparently.
And my God, man, that's that's
terrible.
This is absolutely terrible.
You.
Never know what's going to
happen anymore.
I mean, the world's a scary
place, no?
You know, you know, I, I don't
know how I would like, let's say
we were put in this position,
OK.
Which one are we?
We're the brothers.
I don't know if I would take a
meeting with this guy.
Well.
They thought they were going to
get back some of their money.
No, Well, obviously you're not
getting back any of the money,
right?
You should just do this to the
court.
This guy that's coming to you,
obviously this, these people are
not that good a people.
They've already taken money.
OK, but you're speculating?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm just speculating, right?
You think it's our office home
field advantage?
We're going to be safe here.
It's inside our doors, right?
You know, it's not like this
guy's killed before.
Right.
And maybe they know this guy.
Maybe they, you know, maybe they
have a good relationship with
both of them.
Yeah, I.
Mean if the other guy worked for
them, should they met him?
Before and maybe there is some
to some extent that they feel
bad, I don't know who knows, you
know like.
That's just crazy.
I don't know man, you know like
to lose a couple 100K and to
finally catch wind of it.
Like how many times have the
transactions happened where they
didn't see it?
Right?
Like you're talking about large
amounts of money being moved.
Yeah, this is only what they
found so far.
Well, well, all I'm saying is
that like, it happened more than
once allegedly, and eventually
you catch on to it and then
like, you have no other choice
at that point but to report it,
right, Even if you don't want
to.
But you know, the only way that
you're going to ever see any
type of, I guess, redemption or
whatever.
Restitution.
Thank you.
Restitution is with like all
this is terrible, man.
This is unfortunate.
You got one guy in jail, 1, you
know, his brother's now dead,
and then you got 2 supposedly
great guys that are part of this
industry and now they're gone
too, so.
How does something like that
happen?
When when?
Cause I've I've never been part
of this or I've heard the story
afterwards how who takes over
the company at that point like.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
They had an older brother.
Like if you and if this happened
to you and Greg, who would be
next in line like?
Well, I have kids.
So the kids would take it over.
I mean, my my shares would go to
my family and then they would
have to decide at that point
either to sell the the company
or it would just dissolve it if
it couldn't sustain, right.
You know, something to that
extent.
You know, these guys are
intelligent individuals, I
think, you know, attorneys and
stuff like that.
I know that they had one other
older brother who also had an
unfortunate passing like 15
years ago.
Oh, I thought you could say they
had one older brother left.
I was like.
No, I think that he was.
I don't know.
I read an article where I think
that he wanted to die or
something, allegedly, and one of
his friends went.
He asked his friend to do it or
something.
I don't know.
Wow, that's a good friend.
Is it?
Is it?
Yeah.
Is it?
I mean, but.
Well, you got to go to terminal.
Like what?
What was the case?
Was it terminal cancer or
something?
Like, I don't know, like I have
no idea.
So like, I don't know, like, you
know, if you're going through
some shit, like I'm going to do
everything I was.
Just depressed or something.
Yeah, but I mean, you would have
told him if he wanted to die, it
was some type of terminal
illness and.
Right, I'm going to do
everything I can to bring it
back.
You know you.
Know getting to the end is going
to be worse than if I just
didn't know.
Yeah, you know that that's a way
older article.
So yeah, yeah, man, it's
terrible, terrible stuff, dude.
Yeah.
So sorry for the families and
stuff.
They all have to deal with all
of that.
That's that's a.
Lot to unwind.
Yeah.
All right.
Jose Gasper returns to Tampa
stores for 2026 with a new blend
for the first for the last five
years, JC Newman has kicked off
the new year with a release of
its Jose Gasper cigar, created
by Tampa's Gasper or 4 Tampa's
Gasparilla Festival.
This year's release is a 6 by 54
Toro, the same batola used for
the last two years, but the
blend is different.
Jose Gasper 2026 gets a Cuban
seed Ecuadorian wrapper over a
Nicaraguan binder and Nicaraguan
fillers is made at the company's
JC Newman Penta factory in SLE,
Nicaragua.
Each cigar is an MSRP of
Gentlemen, Gentlemen.
A Gasparilla cigar.
Gasparilla cigar only available
once a year.
Made by JC Newman over at their
factory and SLE. 25 bucks. $9. 8
bucks yeah.
Oh, I, I don't know, JC Newman's
cigars, I guess.
Production is limited to 2000
boxes of 10 cigars.
As with the previous Jose Gasper
cigar, it would only be sold at
stores around JC Newman's home
city in Tampa.
During Gasparilla.
Well, until they're gone,
they're not going to take them
back off the shelf.
Oh.
Oh, is that how that works?
Yeah, they'll study.
They sell out.
I wonder if they sell out.
They probably do.
I bet they do.
I mean only 2000 cigars and
there's 12345 67891011121340
King Corona but we heard they
closed.
Apparently they did not
1314151616 different cigar
shops.
So they basically get like 110
cigars each.
Yeah, a couple of boxes each.
You know, Jose Gaspar was one of
the most feared pirates in
America, said Drew Newman, 4th
generation owner of JC Newman
and a previous press release.
Sailing from his base near Tampa
Bay in the late 1700s, he
terrorized the Gulf of Mexico
and amassed a great fortune.
Victory Gasper celebrated
victories with a bold and
flavorful cigar.
This cigar honors his legacy in
the tradition of Gasparilla.
You think the pirate really
smokes cigars?
Yes, maybe you think so.
The name Jose Gasper is a
reference to the legendary
pirate who inspired the
Gasparilla Pirate Festival,
which is celebrated each year in
late January.
No, he didn't smoke cigars.
I don't think he did.
I celebrated conquering other
ships.
Where's my cigar?
We just sank this thing over
here.
Did you look that up?
Yeah, he looked it up.
I looked it up.
No, I mean like, did you look up
that he didn't really smoke
cigars?
No.
Yes he did.
That's why.
That's why his wife called it.
Jack is listening to the
Patreon, which is apparently
open out a day early.
Oh, must have been.
Yeah, he went out today instead.
He doesn't know what today is.
Yeah, he doesn't remember that.
He has no idea.
What day of the week it is, I
have no idea.
Well, they might be one of the
most famous pirates in history
and has his own Wikipedia page.
There's little to no evidence
that there was even a real
pirate named Jose Casper.
What did you say?
There's there's no proof.
Does a guy ever existed?
Oh, that's right.
So then he has a Wikipedia page
that somebody made.
Yeah, you mentioned that before.
Last year, did he?
Each year, Tampa plays host at a
festival that begins each
January last into March, during
which three major parades and
other smaller events take place.
And now Greg will be attending
this year.
Oh.
Guys, you know the guy's not
living his best life.
Is he's not going to dress as a
pirate though.
Of course he's not.
Everybody dresses as a pirate
for this thing.
You know his wife's going to.
I mean, he kind of dresses like
a pirate.
All black she may make him.
I hope she makes him.
She's probably going to make.
Him, if you listen to the show,
please make him.
First of all, you can't go to
Gasparilla dressed in jeans,
boots and a Black Hat and a
black.
Shirt I would I.
Would it's on the beach.
Oh.
Right, I'd wear shorts on the
Bay.
Yeah, I'd wear shorts and
sandals at least.
Oh, Greg would wear his white
shorts.
I don't understand.
He likes crowds.
He's.
One bearish *** Yeah, too many
people.
He has he has sandals.
Remember, I would love to go,
but that's why I don't go.
There's so many people in doing
this.
Thing there is a lot of people.
It's just ridiculous.
Too many people.
All right, now it's time for
what's the score?
Just trying to just trying to
get it out.
You just, you know what is you
drop like you, you lose your
patience as we progress
throughout the week.
Yeah.
That's why it's a lot to do a
show every single day.
It's a lot.
Well, stop.
Quit.
You're pitching.
At least we're, you know, we get
to do it.
It's fun for you.
No, you don't have a good time
on this show.
I do for the 54 minutes we do
it, but not the two hours it
takes to put it together and
then the 3 1/2 hours they put it
out.
What if you got the $500 a week?
The 3 1/2 hours though, you just
hit a button and it's uploading.
You're not.
Yeah, but you still have to.
You can't just walk away because
sometimes it has a problem.
OK, but you're not just sitting
there staring at it.
Sometimes you check on it
periodically.
No, sometimes I do other things
like last night I put that order
in that you sent.
OK, So there are other things
that I do with the time or I try
to do maximize my time and work
on the new show while the old
show is going up.
Look at you see, there you go,
multitasking.
I have a great time.
So what are you crying about?
Wait till you get a mask.
Then I will not have a great
time.
Yes you will.
Most annoying?
Yeah, but I did request certain
masks.
So Palmer now knows the
criteria, Yeah.
There's a lot of Gray area in
that mask.
There's no Gray area I.
Told you like long as your
chin's not covered, it's all I
understood.
No, it wasn't just my chin.
As long as your chin in your
mouth if it.
Wants his mouth to be
accessible.
For various reasons.
Yeah.
All right.
First Cigar is from June 3rd,
2025.
First and only cigar.
Yes, Patrick Lagreed.
It's the Aging room boutique
brands, the Bohemian Poeta.
OK.
Can you spell poeta?
POETA.
Right, that sounds right.
I.
Don't Bing bong.
Listen, Bing Bong, sometimes
it's questionable with you.
POETA poeta.
OK, I imagine a Spanish for
poet.
Bing bong.
Bing a bong OK?
I have such a headache from
these.
Lights.
What do you you want me to go?
I'll go first this time.
Yeah, Oh, oh, this is the game.
I thought this is the game.
You thought what?
I thought it was another story.
I'm going to.
Go another story.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to start 90 Bing bong.
I don't think we've ever done an
aging room before.
By Patrick.
Yep.
Yeah, he tends to be a little
higher.
You think so?
Yeah, I'll go to 89.
All right, is the aging room La
Bohemia Poeta from Nicaragua
tablet factory put your.
Phone down.
Put your phone down right now.
I don't.
Have my phone.
The Factory is AJ Fernandez
rapper is USA Connecticut
Broadleaf Habano hybrid binder
is Nicaraguan filler Nikki
Raguan.
Length of 5 3/4 by 54 to Robusto
extra $24.52. $22.00. $24.52 for
a box of $24190.40 for.
The box.
Yeah, Lee.
It's an aging room.
That's why we don't do these.
Released January 2025.
Oh, it's only a year old and
they smoked Trace 3.
I'm going to stay 90 right now.
89.
It's weak.
Oh, shout it back to me, clue #1
The Cigar delivers an engaging
profile with earthiness, toffee,
sweetness, creaminess.
And put your phone down,
Michael.
I'm looking, I'm approving
orders.
You're looking at them.
You're looking at them.
That looks like.
That's me working buddy.
No, that's literally Charlie
Minato's text message group.
Yeah.
Hey, what'd you get for this?
Hey, what did Patrick give her?
The I asked.
Patrick, what do you scored this
all right?
Delivers an engaging profile
with earthiness, toffee,
sweetness, creaminess and
bright.
What's bright pepper?
It's it's not dim, it's not
black.
Later evolving into caramel
macchiato, vanilla custard,
pistachio and sweet wood notes.
Oh, I like Patrick's
descriptions.
Keeping the experience and no
nibs.
There's no nibs.
No, that's Brooks.
Well, he's not a nib guy.
Keeping the experience
interesting and layered
throughout most of the smoke.
How do they get all this?
I'm so confused by the pulling.
Stuff out, very layered.
It's what they're eating when it
when it goes.
He's having a coffee macchiato
right now with some cookies and
some sweet wood.
Yeah, when it goes past just the
salty sweet.
Oh, the sweet wood is a stir
stick in the coffee.
He pulls it out and does that
little lick before you throw it
away.
That's it, yeah.
Sweet wood.
Dryness, all that stuff, if it
goes past that.
Goes what are you eating?
Goes past the salt and dryness.
OK, what are you guys eating?
Come on, you said Skittles. 89.
Oh, you came down.
Yeah, just to mess with you.
To the great number of 89, I too
will choose 89.
I thought I'd get on a move clue
#2.
Clue #2 Despite some variations,
the draw, burn line, and smoke
production are generally very
good, with solid consistency
across most of the cigar and an
appealing medium plus flavor
body that never feels
overwhelming.
That was the first clue out of
all the ones that we've done,
that sounds right.
That makes sense.
Yeah, there was no like bullshit
like taste or anything.
All right.
What number you got?
You should have been on me the
whole time you got.
Him.
No, I have on you.
No, you, but you weren't before
when you got him drinking.
No, I was.
I've been on you the whole time.
90 What do you.
Want to go on me when you're
drinking?
You went up on you when you're
eating?
I did 89.
So what do you want to go on me
while I'm drinking?
No, he thought, the camera.
Was on you.
Oh, I don't care.
I'm just drinking.
My throat gets dry.
I do a lot of talks.
On how you flip.
All right.
Third clue, Pay attention.
Third clue.
Third clue.
Yes.
Yes, Sir.
Over here.
Very sorry, my eyes are right
here.
One cigar, I don't know.
I can't see you because there's
a big light.
There, you're doing great.
I feel like I'm going into the
light like this is.
It stepping to the light you.
Shouldn't wear a bright colored
jacket by the way.
Why it's lovely.
Because it makes his face more
the color.
Yesterday, so I wore something
brighter today.
I like it.
I think it looks.
Great, because that way we can
tell what day we do what show
when somebody has to figure it
out, right?
One cigar becomes sharp, rough
and irritating in the throat,
while the others still show
noticeable harshness near the
end, along with multiple
relights in two samples,
creating an uneven and less
enjoyable finish.
As I smoke it in the car. 87. 87
huh?
Yep. 86.
Final thought for the first 2/3,
the aging room, La Bohemian
Poeta was a very impressive
cigar, rich with flavors, moving
gracefully through transitions
and keeping the senses
thoroughly engaged and
stimulated.
The final third was where things
got interesting, as the three
cigars offered rather different
experiences.
One was quite harsh.
Did you just cut his
fingernails?
Oh, he cut his fingernails.
One was quite harsh and as a
result hard to smoke, let alone
enjoy.
The second was better and it had
me optimistic that there was
more to be had in the final
section.
The third cigar completely
scrambled my expectations and it
was not only the most flavorful
enjoyable of the bunch, but it
delivered one of the best
expressions of the blend that I
had.
Likewise, construction and
combustion were very good and
the 1st 2/3, while the final
third was a bit all over the
place, with two cigars needing
relights and the third not even
suggesting I could use some
assistance from my lighter.
If I could marry the 1st 2/3 of
either cigar with the final
third of the third cigar, then
this would easily be described
as a stellar smoke.
However, that's not what
happened and I hate to think of
the final third diminishing what
the bland has to offer.
I still recommend it.
Just cross your fingers that you
get the final third that the
cigar not only deserves, but
it's capable of.
Tried to read it like a story.
Who's going?
I am, I'm thinking.
Like a third of the cigar.
You got to build a cigar out of
the three of them.
One cigar, one cigar to smoke
them all. 86.
Would you like to try again?
Even though you can't say.
That this means it's not
discord?
What?
Here's the problem with these
guys.
Even though he they didn't bash
it but said it wasn't a good
cigar.
I looked it up.
No, I didn't look it up.
Even though it's not a great
cigar at the end of it when they
say that they're still scored
high because it's an aging room
or.
I don't think.
Fuente, OR.
I don't think that's the case.
They listed all their
advertisers in one of their
lists that they're putting.
On is aging room one of them?
No, it's mostly shops, not very
many brands.
No, they do a great job of that.
Like here's the here's our top
25 and then here are the ads.
Here's the ad space for the
people that like.
They do a fantastic job of that.
84.
What did you say 8689?
I think you said 80. 6 See, you
see what I'm?
Saying I moved down to 86.
See, we I was right though and
what I was saying.
Then why did you go down?
Even though it was a horrible
cigar in the end.
It wasn't 2 of it, 2/3 of it was
great. 2/3 It was great.
So you got to take 2/3 from one
cigar and give it with a third
of the other cigar and then you
make a one good.
Cigar, I will tell you, I will
say, say this to you.
Wait a second.
I will tell, I will tell you
this.
I think that you are accurate in
your analogy here in your
analysis of this rating.
I think that is too high for
this particular cigar after you
hear the description, however.
Well, now again, you're only
hearing pieces.
Right.
However, we're only hearing
pieces so.
I mean, there might have been.
I mean, that's three small
paragraphs out of the but.
You did get the final thought,
which is a.
You can almost just do this off
the final thought.
Maybe.
It's like, OK, it's like us when
we do cigars on the Patreon,
right?
If it doesn't taste good, then
we can't say that we would buy
it again.
Yeah, he is true.
The way we do ours is a little
more methodical in the thing,
you know, like you can't say the
price is OK if you hated the.
Cigar, right?
So, and Speaking of which, make
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Yeah, where we rate cigars.
And we talk more inside baseball
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Right, the Patreon commercials
at the end of every show.
Is it?
Is it?
Yeah, the one that you mashed
together with the three guys.
Oh, that's what that thing.
Is when I watch Saka and
Espinoza.
That's perfect, that other guy.
Pete.
No, it's not Pete.
It's the guy from Maryville.
I can't remember his name.
Renard.
Renard.
Thank you, Rainhard.
Did you wish Mr. Maryville a
happy birthday?
His birthday was the other day,
No?
Has still nothing come out of
that whole separation?
No.
Nothing, nor will it.
No, we won't hear anything else.
Yeah.
Unless $0.50 gets a hold of it.
Unless 50 gets the gets the
film.
There's your ditty documentary
add on.
He slid it in 60.
Five.
Yeah, he hasn't.
He hasn't mentioned that in all
week.
Yeah, OK.
Well, this concludes episode
episode. 448 of a Cigar Hustler
podcast.
It was 47, the beginning, so now
we're at 48.
Yeah, it was 47 was yesterday's.
When I rewrite it, I said 48.
Where we're at?
It's the Thursday show, I think.
OK, it is.
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