ACHP Episode 450 Huggy Bear Mikey
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All right.
All right, welcome to a Cigar
Hustler podcast episode 450.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host and
with me today and engineering is
Phil.
The fans are happy you're.
Back.
Know who it is, what Phil is
not.
Phil's not officially back, is
he?
Sure.
OK.
He's not happy to be back.
Yeah, no kidding.
Right and my Co host Mikey Hey
Palmer, look now we get Coach
Preston notifications on our
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I don't know how that happened.
I subscribed.
Oh, did you?
Yeah, that's very nice.
And then I comment too.
And you commented too.
Oh, you're so great.
Look at you.
I love the white shirt.
Yeah, pretty much.
Nice.
On today's show, we have a
Verizon update and there is some
credit information for time
loss.
OK, there's a scandal of foot in
college and Chinese basketball
that could affect the money
makers.
Then you ask for it so we have
more Sports News.
Yes.
Then in cigars, Davidoff has a
new set.
Someone has a social media
special cigar.
We got a press release sent to
us to an almost dead e-mail
account that we don't use, but
we're going to read it anyway.
Perfect.
And then finally, a mini game of
what's the score?
But first, Huggy Bear, how did
we get some of that sweet, sweet
chapter pod swag?
Well, first of all, in our last
episode you had said, hey, we
should all wear something from
our dead dads because.
And then we said that his dad
was still alive.
I got confused with the Monday
thing and you were.
Going to wear it and you didn't
how do?
You know, maybe my dad wore
this.
No, he didn't.
He didn't one time.
One.
It's the red one underneath.
And so again, here I am the one
that delivers all the time,
consistently shows up, provides
and does all these things.
And then then, you know, then
there's you because you didn't
do it.
So this is my father was, you
know, he he actually took over
Gotham at one period of time.
Yeah.
He was a pimp.
Yeah, no, he was famous for for
blowing up stadium as well.
And yeah, football during a
football game.
Yeah, at least Phil got the, got
the.
Good job.
Good job, Phil.
Thank you.
So glad to have Phil.
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Yep, or last week.
Oh my God, team money, you know,
and yeah and, and I'm working
I'm, I'm going to do my best to
have a we're only going to have
like 3 or 4 beanies.
That's all we're going to have
just for the.
Rent and I'm having.
One, is it all we're having the
three or four?
Yeah.
Does that include the three of
us?
I'm not.
I don't need one.
Oh, I won't need one.
I need 1 so.
We're going to have like, so Ben
Wilhelmi is going to get the
one-on-one bean Ben.
'S Ben.
Yeah, Ben's going to get the.
Also, Ben just commented on one
of the one of our podcasts.
Yeah, hold on.
They say Palmer's great.
I love.
Palmer, you're gonna like to
hear you're gonna like this.
You said I'll take the $500
offer, but I feel like with my
long Patreon support, that
should be free.
And I do not want Boots to drive
me around for food because I
don't want to see Slapping dog
and others.
Phil is better than Boots.
Wow.
Yeah, people.
People miss Phil.
There you go.
Good to have you back, Philly.
And Ben is 100% correct.
If Ben comes to town, I just
want you to know he's not.
Dropping the no no, no, no he's.
Not dropping the 500.
He's just in.
Sure, Yeah, sure.
Absolutely.
Flaw in our play, in our boots.
Well, you know what I mean.
I was going to agree to that
until he said the thing about
filling the boots now.
Fortunately for Ben, you don't
have a say in the matter.
Congratulations.
Hey, did you guys know I got I
got some breaking news for you
guys.
OK, tell me, did you guys know
that we are ranked the number
one podcast for industry
insiders?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Wow, that's great.
Right.
I like that it burns you a
little bit.
I did run into the cigar guys
yesterday and they showed me
where it shows they are the
number one Joe.
So really.
Yeah.
What's it say on on Spotify?
Yeah, on Spotify if you look up,
I forget how he did it, Cigar
podcast?
I think not.
Cigar Show.
Not just cigars, you have to
look up specifically cigar
podcasts.
And where do we rank on that?
We don't show because we don't
consider.
We don't have our We're Not
Called the Cigar podcast anyway.
Even though it says the Cigar
Hustlers podcast.
Right, it doesn't go by the
name, it goes by how you list
yourself.
How do we list ourselves?
Well, now we're a network
because we have the other guys.
Yeah, we're network.
So we're the number one cigar
hustler.
Cigar network.
There you go.
Yeah, yeah.
And men 18 to 54.
There you go.
You got to make yourself
searchable.
Super specific to be the number
one.
Is that what's going on?
I guess so.
Well, like I told you, it's it's
not so much what you can prove,
it's what that you claim.
Cigar, cigar guys, what's their
show?
Cigar Authority.
Yeah, Cigar Authority.
They're not a cigar podcast when
I look them up.
They're listed entertainment and
comedy.
Smart.
OK.
All right.
Thanks for the breaking news.
No problem.
Alright, feel better.
No, I do not feel better, but I
I will continue.
Alright, earlier this week,
Verizon experienced a major
nationwide wireless outage that
disrupted service for many
customers across the United
States for about 10 hours.
Is your phone back working and
everything now?
Yes. 10 hours?
I thought you said it was the
whole day.
Yeah, this is the whole day.
That's a whole work day for most
people.
I woke up and it was working.
During the outage, customers
weren't able to make calls, send
texts, or use mobile data, and
many phones showed an SOS signal
instead of a normal network
connection.
In response, Verizon announced
it would provide affected
customers with a Have you heard
about this yet?
$20.
OK, so did you get it you.
Could've just said yes.
Oh, wait, there's some things
you have to do to get it, Yeah.
So I'm not.
I'm not.
Doing it $20 account credit is a
goodwill gesture for the
inconvenience.
While the company acknowledged
that no amount of credit fully
compensates for loss of service,
the credit is designed to help
cover multiple days of service
you couldn't use because of the
outage.
Here's what you need to know to
get the credit.
Watch for a text or
notification.
Verizon says customers who were
affected will receive a text
message when the credit becomes
available.
You haven't.
Got the I did get the text
message.
Oh, you did.
Yep, that message will include
instructions on how to accept
it.
Were they complicated?
You gotta take a picture with
this text message next to the
SOS satellite over in Cambodia.
What they did was brilliant.
You know, here's what's, here's
what's remarkable to me.
Are you going to keep going?
Go ahead.
I'll let you keep going and then
I'll finish.
Two, use the My Verizon app.
Once notified, log into my My
Verizon app with your account
credentials.
From there, you should see an
option to accept the $20 credit
to your account.
If it doesn't appear right away,
be patient.
It may take a little time for
your account to update in the
app.
As we're having network problems
all right.
Go ahead.
What are we going to say?
You know, this is the kind of
things that frustrate me about
corporations, OK, Because the
reality is they take my money
every month automated.
I don't have to say anything.
I don't have to do anything.
It's.
Like a text message or anything.
It's designed to say, hey, we
just took your money.
Thanks, bro.
That's it.
Hey, we just took your money.
Thanks again.
Hey, by the way, you had no
money in your account.
We costed you a reoccurring fee
and we're going to wait to take
your money when the money's out.
Just so you know, right, there's
going to be an additional fee
because that money didn't go
through.
So we're going to need more
money on the money, and as soon
as the money's there, we're
taking it without saying
anything.
And you're broke.
But you can't put the 20 back
like it should be.
It should be super easy.
Automatic.
Should be no problem for them to
just say here's your 20 bucks,
right?
Or you know what, hey, we're
just going to waive the month
fee or whatever.
I would have much rather just an
apology like, hey, really sorry
about that.
The apology I have an official
apology from. 1st but like, but
that's all you that's all I had
to say.
I I'm not looking for the I I
don't need the credit or I'm not
you know, I wasn't I wasn't even
agitated by it.
Like shit happens, right?
Navigated through the day,
figured it out, called the next
people back tomorrow said, hey,
really sorry about that.
My phone crashed.
I was, you know, whatever,
right?
But like, whoever's running this
part, I'm like, you know what,
you should probably be fired.
We're going to give them $20
back.
And in order to get the $20
back, they got to fill out this
application and do all this
bullshit.
Like that's ridiculous.
Either just put the $20 back on
my account or just credit my
account.
We should have just credited
your account next month.
Here's.
A $20 discount for next month
and we're done here.
I'm not feeling.
I don't know how that works if
they can send you.
I mean I know technically they
can, but I don't know if they
have access to your account to
put money back in.
Right.
So to make it easier, all they
had to do is say, hey, we're
going to give everybody's
effective $20 off the next
month, right?
Done.
That's called a credit.
Over an inconvenience fee or
something.
Just place it as a line item.
Over.
Yeah.
And it was like half the United
States.
So why wouldn't they just do the
whole right?
Well, they know that we're not
going to fill it out.
Right.
Nobody's going to fill out.
Yeah, that's what they're
making.
Half the people won't fill out
the form, so we only had to send
back $60.00.
Boss.
It was great.
I mean, I'm not what is my time
on the 20 bucks?
I'm not doing it.
Is it 20 bucks per phone?
No per account.
Per account I got.
Joe Gregg will do it.
There's. 80 million things going
on right now, you know, between
the podcast, between wholesale,
between retail, between online,
between coaching, I mean, like,
and you know, being a good
husband, like making sure I'm
taking care of my wife.
I mean, all of these things,
cars fucking getting painted.
There's 100 things going on in
in my life and I'm sure there's
100 things going on in everybody
else's life.
You still you still have that
car.
What?
My car?
Yeah, it's.
They still have his car.
Yeah, I saw it yesterday.
He goes to visit it.
I saw it yesterday.
They painted the car.
They painted the majority of it.
I'm like, oh that looks good.
Is it the same color?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
Do you sit in it and go?
Vroom vroom Vroom vroom.
No, you guys shake it a little
bit for me like we went around
the.
Corner.
No.
I can't wait to see you when you
get out.
I can't wait.
Can't wait to see.
You I can't wait to get my car
back.
Miss you, I'm going to get you
the best gas.
I always do give it the.
Best he's going to get it
washed.
He always gets the best gas.
It's actually got to go to the
shop too, because it's got an
oil leak.
That's the next.
Oh, it's at a Body Shop, not
another place.
They they can't fix it while
they're.
Waiting.
No, I I trust one guy with my
car.
It's lemon chasers in Orlando.
They are the best.
What?
What a name that.
Is I know, I know lemon.
Chasers.
Yep, they're they're the best.
I haven't LED at a bar.
One night I had a lemon chaser.
Did you?
Yeah.
That was a long time ago though.
Yeah, well, I don't go to bar.
Yeah.
Is that a drink?
Yeah.
You need as you need to keep as
many brain cells as intact as
possible.
Well, actually alcohol erases
them, does not delete them.
What's the difference?
Because you can put information
back in.
If they're deleted, you can't
put information back in.
So it doesn't kill them.
Right.
Blinks delete, but kill.
It just blinks them.
OK, if that's more a vernacular
you understand, then yes.
Well, erase and delete are
pretty much the same thing.
Delete, delete, erase, erase.
Yeah, but I understand what
you're saying now.
OK, All right.
So, yeah, I mean, that's, that's
my rant about Verizon.
Let's give them a $20 credit on
the on the account.
Give me $20 back filling, Put
$20 in the envelope.
When they mail them out, just
put these people sitting there.
Somebody's got to close the
envelope.
Take a $20 bill in. $20 in the
envelope.
Just credit the account $20.00
so easy.
Well, if that was too hard, put
the $20 in the envelope.
Problem Maybe they did that in
1920, but they don't send
envelopes of money anymore from
corporations.
I mean, they know it was
affected because they text me.
Right, so they know you're on
the list.
So they know, right?
Yeah, did Brittany get the same
text?
No, I don't think so.
I think I'm the main, I'm the.
Primary, the main, the primary
yeah those are sure like all
three of you get the text
message great with go OK, the
count of three.
Everybody hit the pay button and
get this money back. 3 * 60
bucks Rob 60 Rob 60 Woohoo got
him another vacation for me.
Another vacation not for Greg.
Yeah, for Greg, 20 bucks.
OK.
All right.
Next story.
All right, and a sweeping
scandal has rocked the world of
college basketball.
Federal prosecutors unsealed an
indictment this week charging 26
individuals in an alleged
international point shaving and
game fixing conspiracy.
The scheme spanned both the
Chinese Basketball Association
and the NCAA Division One men's
basketball, targeting more than
39 players, at least 17
different college programs and
influencing over 29 games
between 2022 and 2025.
Investigators allege the
operation started overseas with
games in China.
Their fixers recruited and
bribed players, including former
NBA score Antonio Blakeney.
BLAKENEY, Blakeney.
You know that guy?
He he must not be that good.
He's playing in China.
No, no, no.
He was a former former.
He was a former NBA scorer.
Oh, but he's playing for China
now, you mean?
Yeah, that's well, but I guess,
yeah, as far as that one goes.
But the college games too.
I don't know, I've never heard
of the.
Guy to underperform in exchange
for monetary payments after
placing large wages against the
teams those players were on, the
conspirators reported profited
and used the model to launch a
similar scheme and the US
college game.
Once the scheme moved to NCAA
plays, Fixers allegedly
recruited college athletes by
offering bribes ranging from
10,000 to $30,000 per game to
intentionally missed shots, turn
the ball over or otherwise
affect the score in ways that
would benefit their wagers.
Among the charge players are
current and former athletes from
schools including DePaul,
Tulane, Eastern Michigan,
Kennesaw State, Delaware State,
Alabama State and Texas
Southern, some of the whom have
appeared in games as recently as
the season, even though the
specific allegations relate to
earlier seasons.
The charges, brought in federal
court in Philadelphia, include
bribery and sporting contest,
conspiracy and wire fraud, and
they carry significant prison
and fine exposures if convicted.
Authorities say the case
represents A historic threat to
the integrity of amateur sports,
where the presumption is
athletes compete fairly and
honestly for the love of the
game.
OK, we, we continue to hear
about these things over and over
again, right?
This is a serious issue that's
going on in all sports.
It's always existed, but now
it's just.
More and more coming to light
now, somebody.
Well, it's just so much.
There's so much more money
involved now that it's through
the roof.
I mean, those allegations are
from 2021 up to 2025.
There's only 29 games.
I don't buy that for a second.
There's one more that's just 29
that they that someone tattled.
On yeah, they can prove right.
They found financial records
where the players were given the
money.
Right, so there's definitely
more and it's there's definitely
going to be more going.
There's more in in I believe in
the NBA and the NFL and all
these these bigger leagues,
right they're they're earmarking
the amateur series.
But dude, this stuff is it's
just going to continue to get
worse.
I feel like actually more for
like NFL, you could see it more
throughout like the course of
the beginning of the season, the
kind of the middle of the
season.
And then it's they slowly kind
of peeled it back at that point.
Like there it wasn't so apparent
in so many games are the ones I
saw at least.
Yeah.
So do you know how they find the
odds in Vegas?
No.
So how they find the odds is
they usually take the last five
games, they add it and then
divide it, right?
So if it's, you know, the over
under for total points or the
spread or whatever it was,
right?
That's what they'd normally do.
So in the beginning of the
season, it's a little harder,
right, because they have to use
the previous season where
players are different, you know,
stuff.
So yeah, so in the beginning of
the season, it looks, it looks
like they're fucking the pooch
or screwing the pooch.
Sorry, but once the rest of the
season starts going on, they
have a little bit more data and
stuff, so it looks a little bit
closer.
But I will tell you it is kind
of crazy that you can get a
spread of like 3 1/2, let's say
for football and it was only,
you know, it was like 4 and
you're like, what the.
Well, well, I'm not even saying
as far as I'm getting the spread
right or wrong.
I'm talking about the things
that occur on the field where
you're like, man, that is that
is such a bad call like that.
You know, I understand that refs
will make mistakes.
I get that.
I understand that refs will miss
calls from time to time.
I understand that there's a hold
on almost every single, you
know, play on on offense.
I under I get all that, I get
all that.
But some of the calls and the
way that some of these things
played out throughout,
especially this season, I'm
like, whoa, man, that's not
even.
You're not even trying to hide
it at this point.
Almost like every Buffalo Bill
game.
Yeah, you feel like.
When you, when you watch that
like and usually in like the
third and fourth quarter, you're
like, yeah, how did the Bills
get back into this?
They're like, wait a second.
Did he watch the penalties like,
oh, the Bills, you know, the
other team had, you know, 10
penalties for 300 yards, like
300 yards.
Jesus, right?
What penalties?
Are they?
Good.
Right.
And then in the next game,
there's zero penalties on that
team, right?
You know, it's like, wait a
second.
So they cleaned it all up like
just like that within six days,
they're good to go, right?
It's great.
Oh, penalties are this game
zero.
Like what?
What is going on?
So you know, I don't know, dude,
it's it's crazy.
I hope that they get their act
together and straighten it out
whatever however they do.
You know, this story is kind of
funny because I've gotten more
into college basketball right
now, obviously, because March
Madness is coming, right?
But those schools that they're
talking about, there's only one
that really holds any weight,
and that's Tulane.
They're the biggest school out
of all those.
The other ones are like no
namers, right?
So I could see how they could do
that where nobody's really
watching those schools.
It's easy to get away with.
Yeah, it's easy to get away
with, right?
Yeah, but there's more money on
the big, bigger shows, the
bigger games.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
So like, nobody's going to see,
you know, a $30,000 wager on
this no name school.
And then, oh, they won.
Oh, well, yeah, maybe that
happened.
That's probably why they did it.
It's just kind of weird too how
it's how it's interchanged with
or it's integrated with Chinese
basketball.
Chinese is crooked on
everything, so I mean to the
fact that they.
OK, the can't just say that.
Well, the factories I did work
with, there's one guy that works
there and his job is to bribe
the inspectors that are sent by
the government and take them out
to dinner.
Right?
OK, it's his job.
He's the entertainment director,
right?
But.
I feel like bribing is a thing
in all other countries.
Well, you can't just say a kind
of broad scale.
Of I don't think China is going
to sue us, Michael.
I think we're OK.
They could come for us.
Well, however, they did lose
Maduro, so you know they're not
that close anymore.
Yeah, right.
But I mean, the college players
were paid 10,000 to $30,000.
I mean, it's that to a college
student, it's big money, right?
What would you have to pay a
professional athlete to to sway
against?
I think that that's more ref
involved.
I think it's not.
Well, that's what I was gonna
What do reps make?
The refs.
Refs.
Refs, yeah.
What do they make on an average?
Season, I think they're, I think
they're, they're in the
millions.
Really.
Really.
Yeah, yeah, they're here.
Let me look it.
Up.
I don't think that that's true.
I.
Don't think that's true either.
I'll look it up you.
Guys, I would bet that they
probably make 3 or 400,000.
Yeah, at best, probably.
At best in the NFL, it's
probably less than that.
All right, so entry level 150 to
250, mid to senior level 250 to
550.
The highest paid veteran
officials are 550.
So no, no, $1,000,000, no
million.
Yeah.
And then they make they make
more money when they go into
like the playoffs.
You know that might be the
solution though you might have
to pay the refs more money.
You might have to pay.
You talk about those guys would
be easier to bribe than you
know, A football player is
making $10 million.
What do you got to give him to,
you know, throw $10 million away
possibly?
Yeah, like.
I guess it depends on what the
pot is, right?
Uncle so and so's got to be in
debt up to his eyeballs and in
order to wipe that deck clean,
you're going to have to do this.
But like that.
But that's like old for me, that
feels like old school mob style
where is like this is more
corporate kind of integrated.
It's like, OK, here's what we're
going to do.
We're going to we're going to
take care of this stuff through
the reps And now the now the
scarier part is that it's
directly connected to New York,
right?
So it's like, oh, that wasn't a
catch.
Hey, a quick review that wasn't
a catch.
Like wait a second, wait.
'Cause you're talking about the
headquarters.
Yeah, yeah.
But the check cleared, so it's
not now.
Right.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, like listen the.
And the virtual.
The over under is 47.
It wasn't a catch.
That virtual thing in the NFL is
the virtual check or whatever to
see how far the bar is ball is.
I don't like that.
You know why?
Because you can't see that shit
on the TV, right?
It's a computer generated image.
Right.
It's like, oh wait, this is my
first down.
Like, wait a second, I'm
standing right here.
Where the ball is, I don't.
Think it was there, Yeah.
Wild, dude.
Yeah.
But I like the fact that we
argue two different things.
You're more on the side of like,
no, it's OK.
Everything seems kind of legit.
And I'm like, I don't think so,
I think.
It's no, I don't, I, I
definitely think there is some
stuff going on in all the
leagues.
I mean, even like Korean
baseball, you know, I think it's
ongoing in all of them.
Table tennis, there could be a
guy that has never been beaten,
but then when he's the most
betted person for that night, he
loses.
It's like he loses to the worst
guy in the league.
You're like, what happened?
Right.
How'd that?
How'd that go down?
Right.
Because the the guy's in
control, but on the other guy.
Right.
Yeah.
OK, perfect.
Moving on.
All right, nine time Olympic
gold medalist Katie Ledecky
clocked the second fastest
women's 150 or 1500m freestyle
time in history on Wednesday
that launched AUS Pro Swim
Series event in Austin, TX with
a dominant victory.
Ledecky was untouchable as she
cruised a victory in 15 minutes
23.21 seconds, more than a
minute up front of the 16 year
old runner up Brinkley Hansen
who touched at 163131.
Beckham Mann was third at 1635.
Ledecky didn't threaten her
world record 1520 set in 2018,
but she used a strong late surge
to improve on the second best
ever Time 1524 that she had set
at the Pro Swim Series in Fort
Lauderdale, FL last April.
I don't have much to say, I
mean.
Sports.
I feel like Terrence after this
one.
It's the second best.
I mean, what do you want me to
talk about?
Yeah, they didn't break anything
new.
Yeah, and she'd be the 16 year
old.
Yeah.
Well, that's that's the age
group, Yeah.
I mean, it's not like she's 40.
OK.
All right, Michael, you got a
video?
We're going to have to fine tune
on our fine tune on.
Our I swam in school so I was
interested in the swimming.
Stories.
Oh well.
How do you feel about this?
She did a good job.
That's a fast time.
Like if you could tell.
What was your slim time?
I didn't do that event.
Oh.
The women's 1500 freestyle.
Yeah, I didn't do the women's
1500.
Freestyle What event did you?
Do I did the 500 and I also did
the 50 and the 100.
The men's, there's a 50.
Uh huh.
Yeah. 50 meters 50.
Meters depending on the pool
it's either up and back or just
up.
Depends on if it's a 25 or 50m
pool.
What was your best time I.
Don't remember so long ago,
yeah.
But I yeah, it was 1920,
remember?
Did you really do this?
Yeah, the 50 was under a minute.
Yeah, I sucked it to 500.
But it's it's a really long
event.
It's like 30 laps or something
and I just had to finish.
If you finish, you get one
point.
Gotcha.
So I asked the coach at the end
and go why do you keep putting
me in at the end of the season?
You put me in this every, every
time we had an event and I hate
doing this.
He goes well, you finished
though, so right.
So I wasn't there to win.
I was there to get the one
point.
Gotcha.
No, I don't have a video today.
I thought you came prepared
every day.
See, I knew that you were
setting that up because I could
see that you're agitated and
angry, but like angry and angry,
you know?
No, I could see, I could tell, I
could tell when I, I'm not angry
at all.
I've stuck you a couple times
and you're like, and you've been
prepared.
So I'm going to tell you that
I've been focusing on all these
other things, like making sure
that I have my jacket.
Oh, I would just go on with your
comment that you always that
you're always.
I am always if a video, if I
come across the video throughout
the day that I think is funny
and I want to share it, then I'm
going to share it.
However, I did look at videos
yesterday, but I didn't see
anything.
I was like, oh this is
definitely worthy of being on
the podcast.
So I'm still prepared, but I'm
not going to waste our viewers
time with something that I don't
think is viable.
Like a woman that places second
in fucking swimming, right?
See how I just countered your
shit?
See how I just took your
bullshit and threw a bash in
your opinion?
You don't know if there's
somebody out there who's not
interested in this.
Yeah, but I appreciate this
story 'cause you this was close
to you I get.
It it was sports that I could
relate to.
Relatable Sports.
Have you guys seen the the
TikTok video?
Are you guys still watching
TikTok or are you guys on?
Oh, really?
I watch tik toks.
OK, have you seen the TikTok
video of where it says, like,
when you want to show your boss
the great job that you did, but
maybe you messed up and you're
not sure.
So you have to, you know, ask
him for like, credibility or
whatever, right?
And it's like the little boy
that has like, the dirt all over
his face.
He's like, hey, you want to see
his surprise and the person,
like, sure, OK, Like, do you
like surprises?
It's like.
No, I have not seen that.
I'll have this in it too.
Yeah, the weirdest feed bro.
I get a lot of the news stories
off of TikTok.
Do you?
Yeah.
Well, if they mentioned
something interesting, then I'll
go and look it up and then I'll
pull the story.
The Google Trends is is not very
interesting anymore.
Really.
I check on TikTok from time to
time but not often because look,
they're so anti tobacco I don't
see the like.
I'm not.
Oh really?
Can I follow a bunch of tobacco?
A bunch of cigar people?
I see cigar stuff all the time
on tik.
T.O.K, as soon as I'm posting a
cigar, they're like, we will not
promote your video.
You are an evil person.
I literally see you.
Well, I was going to say you
post all the time on TikTok
every time I log into it.
Cigars podcast.
Another video.
So if you post a cigar, they
don't like that.
But if your name is the cigar
guys, it's perfect.
You're all over.
There's a talking cigar on there
now.
They keep trying to get me to
follow.
A talking cigar.
Yeah, cigar talks.
It's, I don't know if it's a
cartoon or a guy in a suit, but
yeah, it, it does.
His name is like Ronaldo the
cigar or something.
Really.
Yeah, I'll look that up.
Ronaldo that could have the name
wrong, but next time I see it
I'll.
I'll send you think Renier you
should save.
The video, you know, what you
should do is you should save the
video and share it with us and
we can watch it.
They're not good.
Yeah, What?
They're not good.
You see it.
It's like the are they the
Bigfoot and the, the, the
Abominable Snowman videos that
were popular, right?
So it's like that now, but it's
a talking cigar.
Are they?
Are they so bad that it's funny
or no?
No, it's just not good.
Just not good.
Got it.
It's just not.
Good.
You think Rainier changed his
name to Ronaldo?
No, no, I still see his every
once in awhile.
He, he had one, he had one
yesterday, but I can't, I can't
watch his stuff.
You should smoke me.
I ain't smoking Better, better.
Look, look.
Better.
It's like it's going to fly out
of the screen or something.
It just keeps going higher.
Was that one of the Soras?
No, that's one of his.
I don't know what it.
Soras.
Is that the Soras news?
Yeah, I don't.
Know exactly, like don't watch
him, yeah, but you know, it
comes through and you're as
you're flipping, I see him going
oh, look, look, look.
That shit faded kind of fast,
but some people are still
hanging on to it like this is
good, so it's not.
It's not good.
No, no, yeah.
OK.
All right, cigar news.
Yay.
Casa Carrillo creates social
media exclusive Collector's Box.
Only on TikTok.
Only on tik I was on half wheel.
Casa Carrillo is upping the ante
for consumers who engage with
the company via its social media
channels, announcing a new three
cigar collector's box that will
be awarded to those who earn
access through the branch
digital ecosystem over the It's
supposed to be coming.
It's misspelled coming year
though a series of social media
contests and sweepstakes.
But this is 1/2 wheel.
I don't change these.
The three cigars in the pack are
described as representing the
most exclusive expressions
within the Casa Carrillo
portfolio, with each cigar
having its own blend.
Unlike previous promotions,
where the company enlisted the
help of consumers to select a
cigar to get a larger release,
the company says that none of
the three cigars will be part of
a normal release and they were
created specifically for this
project.
Land 1 uses an Ecuadorian
Connecticut wrapper.
Connecticut broadly blind.
We don't need to read all this.
OK.
Very long so so this is the the
next step from the Lisona
Palooza.
If you comment on theirs, you
get to go to a party, and if you
comment on this one you get
cigars.
So, but this is you comment on
social media platforms or you
comment specifically on their
own social media thing that they
built.
It just says social media if you
interact with them, OK.
What is this ecosystem?
Is this like a biodome?
Do you?
Right, that's what they're
calling there.
Everybody's looking for a new
word.
Do you think that Casa Carrillo
has the age demograph for the
social media platforms?
Let me ask you that.
That's a good question.
First of all, I think the
question is what do you think
the age demographic is of?
Casa Carrillo, I would say that
it's older in the cigar
industry, like Cigar Authority
tracks better.
They they track well in the in
like the older age.
The older demographic you're. 55
to 65, guy.
Right.
OK.
So you're so you're saying more
of like a Palmer age
demographic, not AJW?
Yeah.
Well, well, actually, you know,
like JW, look, for every kind of
rule, there's always anomalies
and exceptions for that rule.
I think JW actually falls in an
an exception.
He's to some degree he does
promote and talk about things on
specific Facebook pages and he's
out of that age demographic,
right?
But like your Lasona guys and
everything else, I would say
that they're slightly younger.
They're younger batch of guys
that are in that are involved on
their social media.
They have some JW age guys but
you're right, they're they're
more between you and me.
Right.
Between our age bracket, right?
Do you think Casa Carrillo has
that age bracket or do you think
they have the older age bracket
is my question?
I would think older.
I don't, I don't follow them
anywhere, but I mean, you would
think that it's got to be guys
your age that like their cigars.
When was the last time you
smoked the Casa?
Well, it seems specifically he
has his own brand and he has
alliances to certain other
brands.
So there's some things he, you
know, just doesn't smoke and we
don't care about here so.
Yeah.
But like, what's really kind of
odd, like the unique, the
uniqueness about owning your own
retail store is that people
should will come in and ask for
product, right?
I'm in a brand.
I'm sorry, did I say retail
store?
No, I'm, I'm referencing the
brand like and it's not like a
ton of people come in saying,
yo, you got that.
What was that fire cast of
Korea?
You know, yeah, that's a random
1.
Like you might get maybe one a
month somebody that wants to.
Because that guy is usually in
an older age demograph, right?
At least, at least that's what I
would assume.
I just don't know how well this
is going to track.
I hope it does track for them.
I hope that it works out well.
I just don't know if they have
that age bracket yet.
Maybe that's that's what this
is.
Maybe they're trying to gain?
To bring it down, maybe a
demographic.
Like, hey, we need some younger,
some younger guys.
We need to compete in this space
a little.
More and then they die off now.
We need younger now.
Right.
What we do?
I mean, that's true.
You're not lying.
I mean, yeah, they eventually
die.
I mean they.
Just put it on the Twitter.
That would be good on the
Twitter thing. 100% of people
that are born die.
It's 100%.
So yeah, if your age demographic
tends to be older, you know.
Younger ones so.
OK.
Do you think when you hit a
certain age you will smoke Casa
Korea?
No, I'm just looking forward to
it.
It's I've already got another
five years.
No, because, because that's not,
that's not my, that's not where
like where I, that's not the
space that I started in, right?
The space that I really kind of
started and involved into is
Postagna, obviously, and
Robocraft.
So when I'm 65, I'll be smoking,
God willing, Postonia and
Romacraft, right?
Obviously the occasional Lasona,
some of the foundation stuff
like those, those that's those
brands follow in that age
demographic.
Now when when we kind of age
out, there'll be other brands
that come in under that right?
Now the question is, will some
of those brands be able to
capture that market of those new
younger smokers that are, you
know, creeping up in age or will
there be new brands for those
guys as well, right.
Like La Gloria Cubana was
Ernie's original cigar and the
only guys that really asked
about La Gloria Cubana are your
older cigar smokers.
Or your cheaper cigar smokers.
No, no, not really man.
You're, you know, your, your
value cigar guy.
If he's younger, he's not
looking for that.
Like, well, I know for a minute
there, like a while back I had
gone into the, you know, the
cigar bit thing, which was, you
know, a disease.
It grows on you fast and.
We judged you a lot.
But that is like one of the
number one cigars that's that
comes across there is the little
Gora La Gloria Cubana.
Yeah, but I guarantee you their
age demograph is probably older.
Think so.
I mean, yeah, that is a classic
time cigar, if you will.
Yeah, it falls in time like your
Monte Crystal White or your
Romeo Julieta, like that whole
realm.
It's like the first kind of
boulder of the in that genre.
Do you think as you get older
personally that your brand ages
with you as far as the
demographic it smokes it?
Well, that's the question,
right.
You know, eventually what
happens is you would look to
pivot into gaining new customers
that are in that younger age
format, right?
So you got to figure out what
you have to do at that point in
order to continue to grow new
customers.
I'm not at that yet, right?
Sure, because we're still kind
of tracking up, we're still
trending in the right direction.
So you're not like, OK, we have
capped.
And also not only that, but like
the really wild part is our
vision is to create new cigar
smokers across the nation,
right, which I don't think
anybody else really does it as
aggressively as we do.
No SO.
They just want them to buy them.
I mean, we don't care who's they
buy as long as they're smoking
something.
Yeah.
So, you know, it's so and so
where we kind of we don't really
aim hardcore at taking a market
share of its current pie was
we're, we're doing everything we
can to expand that pie right as
big as possible to make it more
socially acceptable, that whole
thing.
So I don't know, I think, you
know, if you're asking me the
question right now at 41 years
old, I think that we're capable
of, of, of continuing to get a
younger consumer as the brand
continues to grow.
You know, when we start to kind
of age up, when we're in our
50s, do you think I can get the
40 year old smoker?
Like, I think that I think that
we can, you know?
You're 50, you think you get the
30 year old smoker.
I do.
I do.
I think if I'm, I mean I'm 40
now, I think I get the 30 year
old smoker.
Right.
Well, you're a lot closer to 30.
Yeah.
But I think at 50, I could, you
know, I'll do my best to stay
connected with society as a
whole.
You know, like, I mean, the
fortunate part is that I do have
kids and they'll get older and
I'll be able to understand what
they're dealing with and what
they're what they're they're
into, what's kind of tracking
for them when they become young
adults or, you know, middle-aged
adults, whatever the term is you
want to use.
So I think it's very possible.
Just curious.
Yeah.
The only thing that has a lot to
do with your branding and stuff.
I mean when you have a timeless
looking brand, I think you can
always breakthrough those
younger younger smokers.
Cass Carrillo, correct me if I'm
wrong.
Their stuff looks a little I
love.
Directing you when you're wrong,
yeah.
Their stuff looks a little
older, right?
It's not as modernized as what
you're really trying to say.
Yeah, that would be a better
word.
Modern.
Yeah.
So it's probably harder to
breakthrough.
Oh, they just need to they would
they if they, but it sounds like
they're trying to aim for that.
And if they're trying to aim for
that, then they need to do some
different things for branding.
Yeah, well, that's what I'm
saying.
Like maybe instead of wasting
your money on the social media
stuff, like maybe you should
rebrand a little bit on your
bands and.
Doesn't sound like it's really a
waste.
Well, they're trying to like the
pledge and, you know, the
military type grab stuff this
year or last year, whatever it
was.
I mean, it seems like they're
trying something different.
I think as brands and
manufacturers, we all try
something new and different all
the time.
If you're trying, if you're not
trying to do something new and
different and trying to to gain
more market share or expand
market share, then you're dying.
So, yeah, so kudos, never trying
this.
I mean, I think there's a few
other things that they need to
continue to work on, but I mean,
they got a lot of good things
going for them.
The guy's been around for 100
years, so.
He had the number.
What is it?
Last year he had the.
Number one, number one, I think
3 years ago.
Yeah, the pledge, right, the
pledge.
Yeah.
OK.
All right, Davidoff is releasing
11 exclusive editions for 2026.
Wow.
Each year, Davidoff offers his
retailers and distributors that
are celebrating major
anniversaries a chance to select
a limited edition cigar that has
the company's branding that
hello, it got out of hand.
There we go.
The program is called the
Davidoff Exclusive Series.
The company creates a handful of
cigars and allows retailers to
choose between the different
cigars.
It then creates exclusive
packaging, though it is possible
that some of the cigars are sold
by multiple are sold by multiple
stores or distributors, though
with different branding.
Last year, Davidoff offered just
one Batola, a 5 1/2 by 55 grand
Robusto.
But this year there will be
three options.
The Davidoff Exclusive Edition,
Bellicoso, the Grand Toro and
then the Perfecto.
Where they did this, I didn't
know they did this.
I.
Didn't know they did this
either.
The company has not disclosed
the blend, but says the cigars
used tobacco from the Dominican
Republic, Ecuador, Nicaragua and
the US.
Each is offered in boxes of 10.
The David office.
Well, then there's fancy names
for them.
Wonder if if Patel gets these.
He might.
I'm sure he does it, but it's
only if it's your anniversary.
So it's that anniversary of
Cigar that Davidoff makes for
you.
Right, if you're a Davidoff.
Account.
Account.
It's my seventh year
anniversary.
I'm sure they keep track
somehow.
It's my eighth year anniversary.
Because it does.
It doesn't specify is it my
seven-year anniversary with them
or my seven-year anniversary of
being.
Open as a shop.
Right.
I would imagine it's with them.
You think so?
Seems a little easier for them
to track.
I don't think they Fact Check.
And it's not really exclusive
like you said though.
Well, it's not like it's, it's
not like you blended it
yourself.
Like here's your options.
Yeah, and it's not sold only in
your store.
Well, it would be under your
band like it would look like
it's only yours I guess, right?
Yeah, they they make it.
Well, I'm sure Devadop's still
on it somehow, but yeah, they
they let you specify how you
want it packaged.
It's customized.
I would like a blue box with a
yellow band.
But Sir, someone's already done
that.
Oh, good.
Then you can give me discount.
Yeah, give me discount.
Discount.
OK.
All right, all right.
There's a lot of, there's a lot
of cigars floating around from
Davidoff, apparently in foreign
countries.
Oh, Vietnam.
I mean, it's an interesting take
to try and sell more cigars.
Yeah, but I guess that somebody
has an anniversary all the time.
Every year.
Every year.
Somebody has one, I guess.
There's maybe only one person
that would know this
information.
Who's that?
Davidoff your your other best
friend.
Law.
Oh law.
I'll see him tomorrow.
Oh yeah, Where you going to see?
Him at in Lakeland.
I have the nine year anniversary
thing.
Oh, that's right.
Oh, for Davidoff.
No, I don't think they're a
Davidoff account.
He's there with Camacho got.
It.
All right, And because we got a
press release sent to us, we
have the following story, OK?
Because if somebody wants to
send us a press release, we'll
cover it on the show, but check
for a different e-mail if you
need one.
All right, Patina.
Why Vizio?
Vizio announces Leprechaun Dust
release Patina and Vizio
announces the upcoming release
of Leprechaun Dust at a limited
edition 5 by 52 Candela Robusto
schedules will ship to retailers
next month.
The release has already sold out
at the manufacturer level.
Leprechaun Dust is priced at
gentlemen. $14.00.
So this is obviously Tyler.
Yes, he sent me the pressure
lead, but he sent it to
cigarhustlerspodcast@gmail.com
and.
I feel like.
Which the only way I use that
now is to flip information
between the iPad, the computer
and my phone.
I feel like every cigar he's
come out with is exactly the
same price. 16 bucks.
So 16 bucks is what I'm going to
say. 1250.
Really.
Per cigar and limited to 200
bundles of 10 cigars.
Distribution is handled by City
of Palms.
The cigar was manufactured at
NASA and Estele, Nicaragua.
The project began during several
trips in Nicaragua following
conversations with Gusto Cuero
of Oliva Tobacco about the
candela.
What?
Gus, Nicom, Gus.
OK, but he put in a press
release, Gustavo.
Yeah, and you also said Patina.
Patina, there's AY there.
I know that's not pronounced
right, but I didn't know.
It's like patina and viso.
Oh, and they just put and then.
Because it's Spanish.
Spanish.
But patina's not Spanish and
viso's not.
Spano, it's like a weird merging
of the.
Cool Viso is kind of Spanish.
No, they say the same.
It's not like you go to Spain,
they go this is the viso part of
the plant.
And you go to Connecticut and
they go, this is the umbrella
part of the plant.
Everybody calls it Viso.
Those discussions shape the
intent behind the blend.
But do you see that he's
agitated?
Yeah, I'm not.
Agitated.
I wasn't going to.
Correct him.
I'm a little tired but I'm going
to agitate.
Yeah, he's mad.
Right.
I'm not mad.
Why would it be mad?
It's Friday.
This is the best.
You're mad because there was a
press release sent to a wrong
e-mail.
Yeah, I'm not mad.
But you know when you open your
computer it shows like on the
side stuff you have gotten,
right.
So it said Tyler Jeffrey sent
you an e-mail.
It took me forever to find it
because that's not that.
Wouldn't been an account I
normally check, right?
Thinking he was going to send
you the $1,000,000 huh?
No, I was curious why he emailed
me.
I figured we did something wrong
again or he was mad or
something, but no, he sent us
this nice press release.
Rather than producing a
traditional candela, the goal
was to create a cigar that would
not immediately present as one
when smoked blind.
The finished blend is balanced
and approachable without the
sharp grassy nose often
associated with the rapper.
The name Leprechaun Dust refers
to Chicago's long standing Saint
Patrick's Day tradition of dying
the Chicago Green River with as
you guessed it, leprechaun dust.
The release reflects Patina and
Viso's Midwest roots.
Leprechaun dust is sold out at
the manufacture level and will
be available next month at the
following stores.
We don't need to read this list,
It's about 1520 different.
Stores the Cigar house are on
that list.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
I think we are I.
Mean you got that right.
Oh, you have these?
Yeah, Cigar hustler.
I saw Deltona fly by.
I'm like, oh, cigar.
Hustler.
Hold on, wait a second.
Hold on, we'll read the list
now.
No, I just say the one that's
fine.
Oh, Cigar Hustler in Deltona,
FL.
Are they already here?
No, they're not shipping until I
think next month.
And I'm sure Mardo's on that
list too.
Mardo's on the list, yes.
Yeah.
Who is Tyler?
Who is Tyler?
Yeah.
Is MO from Chicago?
I don't know.
Because Tyler's from Wisconsin.
Yeah, Moe's got to be from
Chicago.
Yeah, Tyler's from Wisconsin.
OK.
As long as one of them's from
Chicago, I can understand this
correlation.
Leprechaun dust.
Yeah, of the Chicago River.
Listen, it doesn't have to make
sense.
It's it's the cigar.
Industry, yeah, it doesn't
matter.
Good news for you, that's how
that works.
They could just say they ground
up real leprechauns into it.
It wouldn't.
Make a difference, doesn't
matter.
Called the leprechaun dust
because we actually ground up
leprechauns.
You know what sprinkled on this?
I think that's better actually.
I mean, Saka said he peed on
cigars at one point.
So did he really?
Yeah, that's why they were sweet
tipped.
I guess he pissed on the end of
all of them.
Yeah.
Just terribly, I mean, Phil,
this terrible.
PB.
Funny, funny man that does like.
There's just hilarious that
somebody that's like, he's great
at marketing, right?
At this point he's just like, I
don't know what else I'm gonna
say, so I'm just gonna say
pissed on it.
That is funny.
Wow, that was a while ago.
He didn't.
Know how that went?
That's kind of how that went,
yeah.
That's what it is.
I don't know whether you're
sweet.
I peed on them.
Fine, I'll just say it.
I don't care.
Just, Oh my God, they're flying
off the shelves.
He busted out with the When did
you bust out with the glasses?
Have you had them on this whole
time?
No, no, no, no, I didn't pull
the.
I forgot to copy over the what's
the score?
But I've got it right here on my
phone, OK?
Yeah, it was a wardrobe change.
Wardrobe change.
Yes, my these are my dad's
glasses.
Oh.
OK, there it is.
Yeah.
All right.
The cigar is from August 19th,
2020.
It was reviewed by Mr. Brooks.
It's a Drew A State cigar.
I don't think we've done a
flavored infused cigar.
Before.
This is the Acid 20 Toro.
It's the Dark One with the
Silver Band.
You're going to go first.
Still, we've never done infused,
so this is completely new
territory for me.
Yeah, we'll go 85.
It's a great number.
I'm going, I'm going to go 84
'cause I feel like this thing
sucked.
My wife loves this guy.
Yeah.
All right.
There's the acid 20 Toro.
It is from Nicaragua, La Grande
Prepreca, Drew State Rappers,
Mexican.
They it says Mexico, San
Andreas.
So binders, Indonesian fillers,
Nicaraguan.
The length 6 by 50.
It's a Toro and they smoked 3.
OK. 85. 84.
All right, clue #1 even though
the cellophane even through the
cellophane, the aroma of the
Acid 20 is aggressive and
potent.
Notes of cloves, pineapple,
cinnamon, allspice, grapefruit,
perfume, earth and leather go
along with this extremely dark
brown wrapper.
Boots.
Phil sounds horrific, to be
honest.
Yeah, I must take it stick at 85
though. 84.
All right, clue #2 as the second
third of the acid begins, the
sweetness on the cap has
disappeared for the most part,
while the infused flavors begin
to subside noticeably, replaced
by more traditional notes of
freshly brewed sweet tea and
cedar, followed by lesser
flavors of pecans, leather,
sweet hay, oak, citrus, cloves,
citrus slash cloves, and
cinnamon, along with it's just a
touch of floral Phil.
Again, sounds horrific 85. 84.
Sounds like to be a good
transition cigar to get somebody
from infused over if halfway
through.
But I think it's boring.
It's I think it's boring.
The more traditional tobacco
flavors really began to shine
during the final third of the
Isotoro, in direct correlation
to how little of the infused
flavors are left in the Profile
I.
Don't even know if this thing's
still in market.
We haven't upstairs.
Yeah, I think it may have
terminated it, though I'm not
positive.
But but flu flavors left the
profile.
The dominant flavors shift
again, this time to a
combination of roasted espresso
beans and Coco nibs.
There it is, the Brooks.
The Brooks.
The Brooks Coco nibs.
On the pallet with secondary
notes of brewed sweet tea, milk
chocolate, cinnamon, leather,
cedar, leather, tack and hay.
The sad part is we've listened
to so many of these, we can
start to determine what
descriptions they're using, you
know?
Who it is?
Yeah.
I you know, you could just pick
out base word, say name this
reviewer Coco Nibs Brooks.
Yeah, you know, and it's, it's
terrible, but Charlie does a lot
of Asian type flavors.
Yeah, teriyaki.
Certain spices, he calls.
That stuff, yeah, it's what
they're eating.
I was going to say it's, it's
almost like what Boots said.
It's what they eat.
Is it what flavors they look for
right?
You know what?
That's what they need to start
including in their in their
reviews.
Brooks loves the Cocoa nips.
What they're eating at the time.
You must have a desk full of
those.
It's a drawerful.
We should make a shirt that says
I heart coconuts.
Coconuts. 85. 84.
All right, final thought.
Even after all the years I have
been smoking, I am constantly
surprised at how much less
pervasive the flavors in most
and few cigars are on the palate
as opposed to was present in the
aroma.
That is definitely the case with
the Acid 20, while both while
both the saccharine sweetness on
the cap and the fruity aroma are
almost shockingly aggressive,
the latter almost knocked me off
my feet for the first time I
smelled it.
Even for taking the cellophane
off, the actual profile bears
very little of either after the
first third.
In fact, the 2nd and final
thirds are full of more
traditional cigar flavors and
significantly improved balance,
as well as the same amazing
construction for both the burn
and draw.
And few cigars tend to get a bad
Rep but some of the cigar
smoking public.
But there is plenty to love
about the Acid 20 as long as
people are willing to give it a
fair chance.
Phil.
You know, we as cigar smokers
that have been doing this for a
while, we looked it up.
Want to rank this low?
Yeah, ranked it up.
No, but it the way that he says
that at the end, it's like, oh,
he's going to fucking rank this
higher, OK.
Like this is a cigar that's
going to save us.
All right?
Yeah.
Like the way it sounds when
you're in it.
Just give it a fair chance.
You'll love it.
It's great.
I really want to stay where I'm
at, but I'm going to go to 87.
Where were you at before?
85.
Oh, I thought you were at 86.
Shit.
I'm like, well, you really went
on a limb.
You went up one point.
It might be an 88.
And, and here's my next question
before you answer your number
here, how can you smoke regular
cigars right without non infused
cigars and then go back to an
infused cigar and go, man, this
thing tastes great.
I think you can.
Sure you can, I'll smoke the
occasional infused cigar.
Sacrifices that they make for
us.
I can't.
I can't smoke one.
Anything like I like the I like
the tabacs every once in a
while.
No, Especially if I've smoked
like 5 or 6 of regular cigars
for like a better word.
And it's the end of the day,
'cause you get to a point where
you just can't taste anything
anymore.
Do I think it's an 88 or do I
think it's an 86?
That is the question, Michael.
I'm going to go against my
better judgement.
I'm going to say 86.
The score is 86.
Wow.
Man, that was a tough one.
Yeah, that was tough.
See, isn't it crazy, though?
Like how he he in the beginning,
it's like you really want to
rank this thing low.
And then at the end he's like,
this is the savior of cigars.
It is great.
It's.
Brooks Brooks is a very positive
person.
Right, You know, yeah, for him
to rank some like low, low, it's
got to be a turd.
It's.
Got to be terrible.
Yeah, I wish they had a list on
their website by reviewer.
Right.
That'd be cool that.
Would be nice.
You should put in that
suggestion in their e-mail.
Make sure you sent it to.
The right one, though, yeah,
just gonna send it from that
one.
Everybody's using it now,
apparently.
I mean, that's like the account
I hardly ever look at.
If I hadn't seen it on the
screen, I would never have seen
it.
Right, you would have missed out
on the.
Leprechaun dust Leprechaun dust
with ground up leprechauns in
it.
Yeah.
Right.
OK, anything else to add?
No, I'm glad we're going to
carry it.
I I'm looking forward to trying.
I like it, Ken Della Now and
Then I.
Don't know how.
I mean, OK, we're not going to
have a lot of them, so.
Oh, they're going to sell out
and they're going to sell
through and I'm not going to get
one.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's how that works.
That's Yep, that's how that
works.
Unless we get them after
everybody else.
Well, that's your if there's any
left.
I mean, there's not.
They didn't make that many,
right?
What do we got 5 coming?
Yep.
What's that going to?
Say no, that's exactly right.
Oh, is it really?
Yeah. 5 bundles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, Steve will have those sold
before they even get here.
Yeah.
God damn.
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