ACHP Episode 452 Wrong Car?
Episode Summary
Episode 452 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens with Mike Palmer, co-host Mikey Stefanowicz and engineer Phil McGuffey celebrating Powstanie's Mexican San Andrés Bellicoso landing as the #2 cigar of 2025 — missing the top slot by just 0.079 points, a margin the crew jokes about putting on a t-shirt. Stefanowicz spreads credit to the Nicasueño team, Skip Martin, Michael Rosales, Alex and RoomCraft, and the guys share a video montage of reviewers (including Bear and Lee Mack) attempting — and mostly mangling — the pronunciation of "Powstanie." They also note the Powstanie San Andrés Corona Gorda picking up new retail accounts, including Lion's Den, and mention the coming Sumatra release.
The middle of the show runs through the day's biggest sports story (Indiana's championship win over Miami and the money makers' unlucky money-line bet) and a batch of Florida News Tuesday items: an 18-year-old arrested for trying to spend the night inside a Walmart for a TikTok challenge, the dismissal of the SeaWorld lawsuit over a rider struck by a bird on Mako, a Hudson man charged with animal cruelty after killing, cooking and eating his pet peacocks out of spite, and a Deltona teen who spray-painted and egged the wrong car thinking it belonged to her ex-boyfriend. The Patreon smoke of the day is the Espinosa Rojo Redux Sumatra, supplied by Fran Saleto.
Cigar news covers United Cigars bringing back the limited-edition Bandolero Firecracker (3.5x50 short robusto with a fuse-style pigtail, Ecuadorian Habano Maduro wrapper, Ecuadorian binder, Dominican/Nicaraguan/Peruvian filler, rolled at Tabacos de Costa Rica, $9), the fifth entry in McCoy Cigars' Color Series soft box press Toro — a green 6.5x54 Brazilian Mata Fina/Mexican San Andrés Negro/Nicaraguan smoke exclusive to Smoke Inn, with a 6x60 Gordo version going to Two Guys Cigars — and Aventura Cigar Company's new French distribution deal, bringing Blue-Eyed Jacks Revenge and later the Royal Return Queen's Pearls and King's Gold to France.
The crew then digs into California's Unflavored Tobacco List, marveling that Drew Estate's Deadwood Sweet Jane shows up as approved while Acid apparently does not, and estimating that STG has registered nearly 800 SKUs at roughly $300 each — a quarter-million-dollar compliance bill. The show closes with a round of "What's the Score" guessing Brooks Whittington's half-wheel rating for the Viaje Zombie Biohazard Green (5x52 perfecto, Nicaraguan criollo wrapper, $11.50); Palmer nails the 88.
In This Episode
- 01Powstanie Named #2 Cigar of 2025The crew celebrates the Powstanie San Andrés Bellicoso finishing second by a razor-thin 0.079 points and thanks the Nicasueño team for the collaboration.
- 02Reviewer Montage and Pronouncing 'Powstanie'Stefanowicz shares a compilation of reviewers ranking the cigar in their top 25 — and nearly all of them mispronouncing the brand name.
- 03Sports: Indiana Over Miami and the Money Makers' Bad BeatA rundown of the championship game, the missed money-line bet, the seven-and-a-half point spread, and the record payout that almost happened.
- 04Florida News TuesdayA TikTok Walmart lock-in arrest, the dismissed SeaWorld bird lawsuit, a man who ate his pet peacocks out of spite, and a teen who vandalized the wrong car.
- 05Patreon Smoke: Espinosa Rojo Redux SumatraThe guys give the Espinosa Redux Sumatra another run, courtesy of Fran Saleto.
- 06Cigar News: Bandolero Firecracker ReturnsUnited Cigars revives the 2023 Bandolero Firecracker — a 3.5x50 pigtailed short robusto from Tabacos de Costa Rica at $9 per cigar.
- 07McCoy Green Soft Box Press Toro and Aventura in FranceSmoke Inn adds the fifth McCoy Color Series exclusive while Aventura Cigar Company signs a French distribution deal for Blue-Eyed Jacks Revenge.
- 08California UTL Registration OdditiesWhy Deadwood Sweet Jane appears on California's Unflavored Tobacco List, why Acid seemingly doesn't, and what registering ~800 SKUs costs STG.
- 09What's the Score: Viaje Zombie Biohazard GreenThe hosts guess Brooks Whittington's score for the 2016 Viaje Zombie Biohazard Green perfecto and land on 88.
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Transcript
Welcome to the Cigar Hustler Podcast Episode 452, I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and with me today on the cameras, the best podcast engineer, Phil, I survived the Nicaraguan jungle. McGuffey. Hello. Did you flip to you?
Yeah, I did. Oh, that's so amazing. And as my co-host, Mikey, I blended the number two cigar for 2025, Stefan Kevich. Wow.
I did. I guess I did. You did blend it. Listen, but you know what?
Here's the funny part, man. When you're working with good tobacco. I know. It's a group effort.
Good tobacco. But still the fact that you blended it, Mike. And Nico Sueño is the best in the business. You know, if you build a really nice boat, you don't go, it's because they gave me really good wood.
What? If you build a boat, and it's the second best boat, you don't say, okay, would it make you feel better over there, Phil, if I said lumber? They had really good lumber. Well, they had really good builders of the boat.
Well, yeah, what he's saying is Skip had the great tobacco and everything, and then- Well, no, I understand that. I'm just trying to give him credit where credit is due. Thank you. That's very nice of you.
I just like to always say that it's a team thing, and we're all in it together, and, you know, I'm grateful, we are grateful. You're magnanimous, you're very magnanimous. Thank you. We are very grateful to be working with guys such as yourself, and Phil, and Skip, and Michael Rosales, and Alex, Roma Craft, Nika Sueño.
It's the best. If the, well we're not really calling it that anymore, if the Sumatra does really well next year, is that the one that Alex technically blended? I mean, I guess, yeah. Just curious.
On today's show, we have the day's biggest... Should I be upset about that? No. We'll give him credit next year.
We'll give him his flowers? Yes. You should lay back for a second. What?
We should ask you how you really feel when you lay back. How do I really feel? Yeah. I pretty much say how I really feel all the time.
Yeah, I don't understand the question. No, well, like I thought you were doing a therapy session here. Oh, no, no. No, I just asked a question.
On today's show, we have the day's biggest story in sports, then on the Florida News Tuesday, from the wacky world of our lawless swamp, a man eats his pet out of spite, you can't stay in a non-24 hour Walmart for 24 hours, and what do you mean it's not his car, and then a follow up to a story that we have been following, and then switching to Cigar News, we have a bunch of new sticks coming, and then finally a mini game of what's the score. But before we get into all that, Mikey, how do we get some of that CHPod swag? com. Where you buy one, you get the second one 40% off.
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com. You can dress and brag to your friends of all the cool attire that we represent. Are we doing the smoke and subscribe shirt for February as well or January only? Is there another new shirt coming?
I guess I can work on another one. whose phone's ringing? Not mine. That's my phone.
Oh. Yeah, not mine. Oh. Wow.
You know, there's a volume button on the side you can turn all the way off. Yeah. That was my computer. Oh.
We just paused because it's because we do the wingding shirt. People have asked for a point zero seven nine shirt. Point zero. Is that a Bellicoso?
Yeah, that's how far that's the the small amount we missed number one. Oh, I still can't believe that it was by that much. How how do they calculate point zero seven nine? Yeah, that'd be cool.
That would be cool. Because then if you don't know, you don't know. Yeah. 079.
079. That was the difference. That was the difference between one and two. Wow.
It's not even really three-fourths. No. Of a category. That's a little more than three-fourths.
Uh, yes. Right. But not quite. Six-eighths.
Are we done talking about the shirts? 7-6-9-er. Yeah, that's it. com.
I don't have any other retailers at this moment, but apparently we have a few more orders in the pipeline, and we'll catch them. Uh, Lion's Den, just added. Okay, and we'll get all, well, we will give them the proper... Yes, yes, the regular full standard announcement.
We'll give you the full red carpet experience tomorrow. Ooh, red carpet experience. Announcing our... Not the same as the Boots & Palmer podcast experience.
Yeah, it's not the same. There are recent retailers who are now supporting the Postana San Andreas Corona Corda size. Oh. Yes.
Something else I was going to ask, I don't remember, so we'll just keep moving on. Now the news. The big story of the day, it's impossible to Google, but Indiana completes the unluckiest turnaround in sports history and the moneymakers choose wrong again. Yes.
I was going to cut you off before you got to this article. " Oh, so you guys talk sports. That was it? I had a nice article, but usually you cut those off because you say they're too long, so I figured you guys would just rather talk amongst yourselves, so I have a snack over here that I can eat while you guys talk, so please go ahead.
Me and Leprechaun Phil over here. Leprechaun Phil, I'm going to eat my protein butter. It's feeding time. So fortunately for us, you put in this money makers bet, and you said Miami outright, money line to win it all.
They won the ball. Yeah. And they lost. They did lose.
They lost. They should have won. You know what? You might be right.
They should have won. They should have won. First of all, if that defensive player was in for the first half. Yeah, they would have had a way better.
Like, oh my goodness. Yeah. Because he makes a difference. And then if number 87 would have just blocked the guy running in for the punt.
It felt to me like 87, I don't know who he is, he was on the take, man. Like, there was a run play where he was kind of right next to the guy and kind of blocked him in from escaping. Yeah. You know, I saw 87 make a lot of mistakes.
He knew, uh, he knew the money makers had a bet. He knew the money makers were on the line? Yeah, he got the call. Hmm.
Yeah. That's unfortunate. There is a lot of extra money right now because the basketball thing got shut down. Yeah.
Well, you know, they did cover, if you'd have just taken the points, seven and a half. They didn't cover them. They didn't cover seven and a half? Yes, they did.
They lost by four. Oh, they did. Yeah. No, they lost by six.
21-27. It was 21-27? No. So they covered.
So they did. Well, are you talking... No. If you would have took the plus seven and a half...
Yeah. Yes. That's the only thing that covered the whole... If you'd have taken Miami and the points...
Yeah. You would have won. Yep. But you took the money line.
Yeah. Well, another fellow took a... Minus one and a half for the first half. Okay.
He got that. Okay. And he took minus six and a half for the second half. One of the money makers did?
That stings a little bit, yeah. Oh, he lost that one. 5. One of the money makers took that bet?
Yeah. Yeah, Wobby? Was it Wobby? No, no, it was Ginge.
Oh. Why couldn't we say that? Shouldn't they have code names? I just, I, yeah.
Those are, those are code names. Yeah, I guess it is kind of a nickname. Oh, I just know who they are. I guess you're right.
Right. Like, I'm not a moneymaker, I figured that out. You're not going to him while he's chewing like that, are you? When he was talking, I did.
That was the idea. That was the idea? You cut to me every once while I'm sitting there eating and drinking. You were having a sandwich or something?
It's a protein bar. You know, yesterday too, if Miami would have won, it was the single, it would have been the single most payout record or whatever, however you want to say it, in hard rock history. If they would have won. They would have won.
So everybody was on Moneyline Miami. Yep. Makes sense. Yeah.
Makes sense. Okay. So it's good to see you back on the camera, Phil. We've missed you.
Oh, yeah. After all this time. I can't believe we just found this camera. I can't believe we just found this camera either.
Just sitting around upstairs. So wild. It wasn't sitting around upstairs. It was in the storage next door.
Oh. It's not the best lens. It's not the best camera. But you know what?
You're on now. Yes. Had to get a couple of cords, a couple of cables. The cables.
Yeah, we figured it out. Work in progress. That's it. We're moving.
Oh, okay. Palmer's car. Everything's fine. Someone just stole Palmer's car.
That's all right. It's still a loaner. All right. So congratulations to the Hoosiers.
Congratulations. Yeah. Miami, that was a tough loss, man. But they played great.
They really did. Did you hear what the coach said when they asked him, what are you doing? Now that you've won, what are you doing next? Going to Disney World.
No, that's not what he said. Oh, they don't do that anymore? He said, I'm getting a beer. Yeah, I'm going to have a beer.
Yeah. Why is that a big deal? Yeah, he's not going anywhere. Is he an alcoholic?
No, he's not. I don't think he's out. Allegedly? Yeah, I don't know.
That was a close game, man. It was a super close game. It was a good game. It was a good game.
Man, I was rooting for Miami, boy. I think the majority of the world was rooting for Miami. Except the Hoosier people. Except for Corey Davis.
So a video of a guy on a plane, a Hoosier fan, got everybody on the plane to yell for the Hoosiers. Really? " Really? Yeah, he's an old man.
It was funny. That's cool. That would have been a good video to share with us. Yeah.
You saw Mark Cuban was there? I did. They had all the bulletproof glass for Trump. Is that what it was?
Bulletproof glass? I was like, he's right up against the window. Oh, yeah, it was definitely bulletproof. If you think that wasn't bulletproof.
Well, they didn't announce he was going to be there, so it's not like somebody was there looking for him. Well, from what I understand, they shut down tailgating, which is really bad, right? They make you pay this $800 for parking. Right.
They shut down tailgating for the whole time that you're there. Oh, no tailgating? No tailgating allowed, because Mark Rubio and Trump were going. Wow.
Yep. Hmm. Interesting. $800.
I remember I was going to say, do you want to show what we're smoking on the Patreon today, Michael? Today, I do. We're smoking. Today, we are doing the Espinosa Redux Sumatra.
m and was trying to stay inside overnight deputies learned And that this plan was to complete this TikTok challenge, hoping to earn money based on the number of views he could get while doing so. The release continues. While inside, Hurley also removed a phone charger from its packaging. As a result, Hurley was taken into custody on charges of burglary and petty theft.
Well, technically... What did he steal? Yeah. Phone charger.
Well, technically, he didn't pass the... Right, he didn't leave with it. Right. But still, he tore it open.
so they're probably you could probably get that part dropped oh my god you have to actually leave with it right this is wild he was taken to jail where he bonded out on fifteen hundred dollars in a statement sheriff bill brummel said the following i'm not sure what people buy into these social media challenges when they are clearly encouraging you to violate the law from kicking in the front door challenge to the destruction of public property thing a couple years ago to now something as silly as this young people especially are putting themselves in bad situations and paying They're in the press for it. Okay, lots on pack here. What is this guy, first of all, he's not a guy, he's a kid. He's 18.
He's 18, he's a kid. He's 18. He's not a man. I guess legally he could be considered.
But he's still very young. Stupid 18 year old. What was he thinking? He was going to be TikTok famous.
He honestly thought that that would work. I see videos all the time of these guys hiding in Home Depot's, hiding in Costco's. Well, the movie did just come down, come out, the rundown, or not the rundown, but whatever it's called, with Channing Tatum? Where he hides in a toy store.
Yeah. But he's a wanted criminal. He's hiding from the law to start with. Right, but maybe they got the idea of this TikTok thing from that.
Oh, like I said, I've been seeing it for months. There's kids hiding, you know, they're, they go like behind the paper towels and build the thing at the Home Depot or the Costco. And they just wait? And they just wait for the store to close.
Really? Yeah. And what do they do? They hang out there the whole night?
Yeah, I usually stop watching at that point, but that's the idea. I feel like somebody's in on it, though. Like, they tell somebody, like, hey, you know, we want to do this, and they're like, okay. You know, they figure that out.
There's a whole series of stealth camping people that try to camp in areas that they're not supposed to camp in. Really? Like this one guy, it was one of those roundabouts, but there was plants in the middle of the roundabout. So he sneaks into there, sets up his little camp, stays there all night, leaves the next morning without getting caught.
That's what homeless people do. Right, exactly. Yeah, the challenge is to be homeless. Right.
For 24 hours. Wow. And he gets views. And they get views, right?
All right, so now I want you to try and... I'm going to hide in Cigar Hustler. Yeah, no, no, no. You went, first of all, there are motion sensors.
You don't want to do that. Because the alarm just instantly goes off as soon as you... But I know the code. But if you're in there, we arm the code, and you're hiding, and then you go and move inside.
Yeah, but when you set the alarm, you run out, you have 30 seconds, the trick will be to get back and turn it off before. To disarm it. Right. Smart.
No, I want you to do it at another store. Like, after an event. Like, all right. After good night.
No. Like, you do an event somewhere. Yeah, I think I'm too old for that. I'm not doing that.
And then I want you to TikTok it. Get Keanu to do it. No. He'll do it.
I'm not doing it. No. No. I'm not going to do it.
By the way, did you see- I'm not a child. It's a felony for me. Is it? Who knows?
Did I see what? Did you see that Sokka gave us a- Yes, I thanked him. Gave us our flowers? He said, shout out to Mike and Mike, and Greg doesn't even exist.
No, Greg, no, he didn't even say brother. Yeah. A lot of other people said Mike and his brother and Palmer. Right.
Yeah. Greg does not exist if our size is concerned. And that's warranted. Like, I get it.
I completely understand. He has no idea what's going on. No, he doesn't. Yeah, that was awesome.
Yeah. We've gotten a lot of nice compliments from people. Yeah. The day of, my phone kept going off.
She's like, what is going on? And I go, we're the number two cigar. We are the number two. I don't know what to tell you, honey.
I'm sorry. You don't watch the show? No, she does not watch the show. You remember the other show?
I used to count on the fact that she didn't watch the show. Right, yeah. I get in less trouble that way. Okay.
All right, next. All right, and a follow-up story. A few weeks ago, a woman filed a lawsuit, says that she was hit by a duck on one of SeaWorld's roller coasters. The rider, identified as Hillary Martin of Orange County, while it was She was injured while a duck struck her while riding MAKO in March, stating she suffered permanent injuries and seeks more than $50,000 in damages.
According to court documents filed on Tuesday, SeaWorld Orlando, their motion to dismiss was granted by a Florida court, agreeing that SeaWorld did not have control of the duck and they are not liable for the duck's activities. Barton has 20 days to refile on an amended complaint. I guess she has to sue the duck now. 50k, that's all she's going for?
Yeah, you don't remember this story? I do remember it, but I didn't realize that the amount was only like... Well, there was pain and suffering, but 50,000 was the main figure. Yeah, it's not like a million or two or something like that?
Well, you probably hope pain and suffering adds up to something substantial. Well, the lawyer probably knows what the number is. Yeah, maybe. Settlement, 50,000, let's get it.
Well, it was attempted, it was dismissed, and... Yeah, it wasn't even really a duck, it was a heron. Oh, that's big. Not the gray one, the little white one you see everywhere?
Oh. With the little curved nose? Yeah, that's a lot smaller, probably easier to get, you know, just ding off of you. Right.
There was another story about an emu that the police had to handcuff, but I didn't think two bird stories in the same day. An emu? Yeah, there was an emu running wild. But there's a picture they put handcuffs on the emu.
Yeah. What? Stop it from running. Stop it from running.
Oh, they put it on his legs. Yeah. No, they put it on his neck. Yeah, they put it on his arms.
When you said hand tough, the word is in the name. Yeah, and he does not have hands. Yeah, his hands are on his feet. Okay, right.
Have you ever seen one of the things, one of those things run, man? Yeah, they're fast. No. When I went to Kentucky, my buddy has an emu farm.
Okay. And he's like, come on in. And I'm like, man, this thing's got some big old talons. Like, I'm not sure about that.
They will disembowel you. Yeah, he's like, no, no, no, they're good, man. They're my pets. I'm like, they're not my pets, though.
Like, they're your pets. Right. They don't know me. Identify you as a predator.
Right. So, I don't know how he got me in this pen. Right. Some way, I stepped in.
As soon as I stepped in, these things took off. At you? Oh, no, not at me. Just running around.
Like, he can eat us. He's bigger than us. Oh, no. I don't think that's what happened.
Have you ever had emu? It's not bad. I think so, at Disney. Right.
Do they have emu at Disney? I don't know. They say it's turkey legs, but I don't know. They say it's turkey legs, but the rumor is emu.
The place in Ocala is a big evil part. Allegedly. Allegedly. It seems like a PETA thing.
I don't think Disney would do that. All the videos I see, those things, they peck at you with their faces. Yeah. Yeah.
They don't look very friendly. You know my biggest takeaway from that story? Don't go on the PIM? No, is that you can be coaxed into just about anything.
Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I mean, look what he's wearing. After he said no for two days.
Yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Okay. I'm not doing it.
Okay. And the hat. Fine, give me the hat. Let me go get the hat.
I don't want to wear the hat. Here's the hat. Here's the hat. Okay, got the hat on.
All right, Florida man. Hudson, Florida. A man on Florida's Gulf Coast has been charged with animal cruelty after authorities said he killed and cooked and ate two of his pet peacocks. Mm-mm.
Craig Voight, 61, of Hudson, Florida, was arrested last week on a third-degree felony charge of aggravated animal cruelty, according to an affidavit from the Pasco County Sheriff's Office. Voigt told investigators that he had killed the two peacocks because his neighbor kept feeding them. He had written the neighbor a letter telling her that he would continue to kill his pet peacocks if she kept feeding them, to prove a point, according to the affidavit, which he didn't say how many peacocks he kept. Voigt admitted to killing the bird by cutting the bird's neck out of spite, then bleeding it out, and then later eating the bird after cooking it in a frying pan, the affidavit had said.
While he was being taken to jail, Voight told deputies that he would kill all the pet peacocks upon release to prevent anyone from taking them to the sheriff's office. Parker. The Pasco County Sheriff's Office on Monday didn't immediately respond to an inquiry about the fate of the remaining peacocks. Wow.
Okay. This is a slaughter of peacocks. Well, I mean, if you have pet chickens and you kill your chickens, that's not animal cruelty. Right.
So why is it an animal cruelty to kill the peacocks? Yeah, why are we drawing a line of peacocks? Did he say they were his pets? Pets?
Yes. That's why. I had pet chickens, I still, you eat the eggs, you're eating their babies? Did they have names?
Yes. Then those are pets. So you can't kill them? So you can't kill them?
I guess not. I mean, it's an animal that you eat. People eat peacocks? People eat peacocks?
Yeah, no, they eat peacocks. Yeah. Really? Yeah.
What culture eats peacock? Well, I definitely know some Spanish people, because when I had a farm, I had a Spanish lady and she ate hers. She ate her peacock? Don't tell anybody, now she'd get arrested.
They're arrested. Well, she's no longer with us. Is this one of the big bats? Oh, she died?
Did she die from the peacock? No, you know, ironically. Did she choke on a peacock? I hear they've got a lot of bones.
Large? Yeah. I don't know. They're very big.
And they make a terrible noise. Listen, this lady, right? Yeah. She used to live over here in Deberry.
I had my farm in Orange City. She was known as the chicken lady, right? So, everybody would go to her to get chickens. You know, she would kill them and de-feather them and blah, blah, blah, right?
Right. So I end up, you know, giving up the farm. I was like, man, I can't do this no more. It's just too difficult.
So the way that you kill a chicken, Mikey, do you know how to kill a chicken? No. Okay, so you have to break its neck first. Okay.
Or you can cut it off. Yeah, but really you just want to break it first. You just want to kill him first before you cut it off. I don't know.
I guess it's humane the other way. I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure when they cut it off, it kills him. Yeah.
Not like it drags it out. Then you cut the head off. You let him bleed out. You put him in the pot.
You boil them to make the feathers loose, and then you pull all the feathers off. Right. So this lady, she put her oldest son in jail, in prison, for animal cruelty, right, to his dog. He gets out of prison, and my camera's off.
Your camera's off? Yeah, it's probably the energy saving thing. And when he gets out, the first thing he does, he goes and chops his mom up. Oh, not the chickens?
Yeah, he killed her. Did he break her neck first? You know what? I think he did.
And I thought it was so crazy that this story happened. I was like, I used to watch her every day, you know, kill these chickens. And ironically, she died just like the chickens. Ugh.
Right. Did he like the chickens or something? I don't know. I have no idea.
Yeah, but I still don't understand why she didn't go to jail with this peacock guy. Yeah. Because they weren't her pets. They were money for her.
None had names. I don't know. I think that's really where the line was drawn. I don't know.
I feel like that was a tough story. You just kind of rambled on that, and you really kind of lost me. All right, so some lady killed somebody. Okay, got it.
No, no, her son killed her. No, her son killed her. Right. She had her son put in jail for being cruel to the dog, and then when he got out of jail, he killed his mother like she was a chicken.
Yeah. Got it. She could have told it a lot faster. Yeah, that was a great story.
Thank you. Thank you. Wow. So if somebody knows why you can't kill peacocks, but you can kill chickens, maybe Ben, they can let us know.
So we give this guy, we give Phil a camera, all of a sudden he's gonna just command this, he's gonna start taking over with his random, well, the good news is, his camera went into power safe mode, and now it's off, so it's less than 20 minutes, it's in 20 minutes, right, well it had a 29 number on the screen, maybe it's 29 minutes, because it ran a little bit before we started, okay, and while you talked, well of course that ran, which is probably why we got away from that camera, probably, could be, because in the beginning we did have to do things in 30 minute jumps, Then we'd have a commercial, reset the camera, and do it again. All right, now to be fair and equal, we have a Florida woman's story. Oh, fair and equal. Fair and equal here at the Cigars Podcast.
A woman is facing charges after a Volusia County deputy said she vandalized a car she thought belonged to her ex-boyfriend, but it was the wrong car. Call a bell. News 4, Jack's sister station WKMG reported, according to the Volusia County Sheriff's Office, Deputies said they responded to a vandalism call overnight along Glamor Street Drive in Deltona about a young woman spray-painting a vehicle. When the deputies got there, they found an 18-year-old and a 16-year-old girl.
Investigators said the younger girl had yellow spray-paint on her sweatpants that matched the spray-paint on the car. When questioned, the 18-year-old admitted she was upset with her ex-boyfriend and decided to spray-paint and throw eggs at what she thought was his vehicle. Oh. Unfortunately, the vehicle in question belonged to a neighbor, not her ex-boyfriend.
Oh. A very nice car, too, was a nice car. Obviously, the whole relationship, she wasn't paying attention. Yeah, he wouldn't let her ride in his car.
According to the arrest affidavit, the 18-year-old told deputies that her ex-boyfriend owed her around $700, which is what spurred the act of vengeance. However, it turned out that the car's actual owner had just parked across the street, leading to the misunderstanding the affidavit reveals. The damage to the car reportedly tallied up to an estimated - Gentlemen, want to pick? - Uh - Keep in mind, he owed her $700 allegedly.
- Yeah, I'm gonna say $6,500. - $7,700. - $5,000. - I win.
- Estimated. - $5,000. That was for report purposes. - Deputies also explained that they caught the woman driving with two open containers of Four Loco in plain view.
- Nice. Underage. - Underage Four Loco. - 18, drinking, driving, vandalizing.
- As a result, - As a result, - The 18-year-old was arrested and now faces charges of criminal mischief, contributing to the delinquency of a minor possession of alcohol under 21, and she got a DUI. She was released Wednesday afternoon on bond. Meanwhile, the 16-year-old faces a charge of possession of marijuana over 20 grams, after Debbie said they found the drugs in her purse. In addition, Debbie said they recovered an empty Crown Royal bottle, a scale, and a can of yellow spray paint.
Crown Royal? Yes, empty bottles. Jesus. Let's go.
Well, if it's empty, they can't say that you, there was, they can't charge you with it. You know what I love right now? Yeah, it's an empty bottle? Yeah.
Really? Yeah, how can you charge? It was in a purse. There's no liquid in it.
All that stuff was in her bag. It's just a bottle. You know what's amazing to me right now? The fact that your camera's dead, and you're still rocking, you're still rocking the gear.
You're still in full Eprechaun. Oh, yeah. You should not have said anything, you would have had it on the entire time. It is a little aggravating.
We have a much better mask coming, but still it's only going to be 29 minutes. He's only got 20 minutes. I love that. That's hilarious.
You're the first 20 minutes of every show. Yeah, every time I was smoking, I'm getting this orange hair in my mouth. We'll slowly bring them back. 20 minutes at a time.
At least you didn't catch on fire. I was a little afraid when I was lining the cigar that last time. All right, Michael, you have a video. I do have a video.
Oh, great. I do have a video. I hate when he has a video. I actually have two versions of the video.
Oh, I think you said it to us, didn't you? And this version has no background music. It's an editing nightmare. Oh, my cigar's hairy.
Oh, I know what video it is. Is this how it comes from Espinosa, hairy? I hope not. Right, that's where the hair comes from.
Just sent it to you guys. Let's see you guys. Is it the one you sent to Jerry? No, I sent it to M&M.
You got it? Yes. There's no volume. Oh, my volume's turned off.
I know what it says. I have to listen to this with no volume, right? You can... Oh, 'cause it's not attached to anything, you can listen to it.
And it's time for number two, and that comes from- Very high priced things to say about the number two cigar of the year, number two cigar of 2025, and that is- -Powstanie. -Powstanie. -Powstanie. -Powstanie.
-This is a lovely smoke. -The Powstanie. -Powstanie San Andreas. -Powstanie, which you would call Paustani.
-Powstanie San Andreas Bellicoso. -Connecticut Justice. -Fantastic cigar. -Fantastic cigar.
Oh, I think I've seen this on Facebook or maybe TikTok. Yeah, you did. Okay. I did.
I put it up earlier today. Okay. There had to be a lot of work getting all those clips. It was.
It absolutely was. First of all, what I do like, and I think is funny about this clip, is how everybody pretty much pronounces it wrong. Everybody. Everybody says nobody can say it right.
Well, Bear got it right. Bear did, yeah. Bear got it right. Bear gets everything right.
And Patrick got it right. Yeah. Well, those are professional-ish. More professional.
I mean, not that the other ones aren't. I think the Lee Mack guy, I distinctly remember having a conversation with him, and I explained it, I said, "Postanya," and he said, "Poshanya," I said, "Postanya," and then he said, "Poshanya," again, and I think at that point I let it go. The spelling's on the band, bro. " No, it's not.
I guess it's not, huh? No, it's not. It's on the box. So, yeah, man, I just wanted to put together a little, you know, a little collage of...
All the guys that took the time out to review it and, you know, ranked it on their top 25, and then the end of it had the photos for the guys who don't do videos. Oh, okay, I got you. I wonder why they was just... Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, I want to incorporate all the other guys as well. So, thanks again for everybody for supporting and your love and showing the reviews, and we really appreciate that, and it was all over the board, man. It was Warbear, it was Corona, Connecticut. Oh, it wasn't just one to go.
It was all the different guys. Yeah, it was the San Andreas, it was the Connecticut, it was the Warbear, it was the SB. HVC, I mean, like, hell yeah, man. That was really, really, really awesome.
Right. And, yeah, don't beat up on my boy Lee Mack too much with the Pochania, because that was my guy. That guy is hilarious. Oh, that's the one that does in his car?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. " That was the one you talked about yesterday. Yeah. The Ashcan.
Yeah. Yeah. So, so there's your video. That was a great video.
Thank you. He had two, though. He has two versions of it. Oh, two versions.
Oh, one with the music, one without the music. Yeah, it's on YouTube, so you can't put the one with the music. Got it. Oh, so YouTube's where there's no music.
Correct. On what YouTube page did you put it on ours? I didn't put it on YouTube. Oh.
Gotcha. Mm-hmm. So do I have the version you just sent me, is that the one without the music you use for the show? Yeah, that's the one you use for the show.
Okay. Well, I didn't turn my volume up, so I didn't know if I had music on it. Yeah. All right, now on to cigar news.
United Cigars has announced a return of the limited edition firecracker blend from selected tobaccos that has not been seen since 2023. Didn't we just talk about that? No, no, they have a new one coming out for 2026, but they're bringing one back from 2023. Ooh, a remake.
A remake. The Bandolero Firecracker, not the German one. This is the Spanish one. This is the Spanish one.
Oh, got it. The Bandolero. 2020 Firecracker 21 is a three and a half by 50 short Robuso with a long pigtail that is tucked inside the band made to mimic the fuse on a firecracker. Blend-wise the cigar is made with an Ecuadorian Habano Maduro wrapper, the same wrapper used for the selected Tobacco's Mandolero Adventurous line, an Ecuadorian binder and filler tobacco is grown in the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, and Peru.
According to the company, the cigars were aged for two years, well, they made them at 23, now it's 26, in multiple rooms lined with different types of cedar after being rolled in the Tabago de Costa Rican factory, Boots loves Costa Rican factories. Oh, look at these cigars we found. How long have they been in there? Oh, look, they've been in there for three years.
Bring them back. Each cigar is an MSRP of? Gentlemen? Gentlemen?
Each cigar. Each. Five bucks. $7.
$9. Same price as the Germans. Packaged in 20 count tens. I still won.
Just like the Germans. When asked about production numbers, Oliver Navad, director of operations for United Cigars, sold half wheel that we don't have set qualities. Quantities, no qualities. That was exactly what you said last.
That is the same quote, but it's a different cigar. There's been no mention of German. Okay. As they found them in the German corner of Costa Rica.
No, the Spanish corner of the Costa Rican factory. These are bandoleros. Bandoleros. You know, little bullets on a thing?
Yeah, yeah. Is that what it is? Yeah. Interesting.
Like Chewbacca wears. I thought bandoleros was like two gangster girls or something. They should have shaved Chewbacca out. He keeps giving porn names out.
No, that was Penelope Cruz, and it was a movie. Oh, Salma Hayek, I did see that movie. Yes, Salma Hayek. Oh, he talked a lot this podcast, I've already kind of like blocked him out.
He was talking a lot, didn't he? He got some fast food before the show, he got a little down time before the show. When he did the whole, when he started going about the whole story with the chickens. He's all excited because he saw you and Preston working together.
Yeah, there it is, shot. The Bandolero Firecracker debuted in 2022 and was released in 2023. This is the second Firecracker release to be announced by United Cigars recently joining the Independence Firecracker last week. See, the German one there.
Yes, there it is. By the way, Palmer tried to coax Preston into being on the podcast when I'm out. Yes, at the end of the month. Well, I was also thinking, are you out because there's a sport thing you have to do?
No. Oh, I thought maybe it was a sports thing. So I was thinking maybe he was busy too. And it would be in the afternoon, so he probably couldn't make it anyway.
Yeah, Fridays are crazy. All right, McAuliffe Cigar, I'll get him though. He wasn't going to do it. No, don't do that to him.
Why? You leave him alone. Why? Don't get so defensive, Michael.
I have to protect my friends from my friends. I'm not going to do anything to him. We're not going to tie him up or something. No, he's not coming on the show.
Just I thought these people would like to see your person. No, but you're definitely going to give him some funny stuff to read. You'll have to read. Go to Four Downs with Coach Preston, and they can see him.
Not the same. On YouTube. Not the same. Hello, I am Preston, the beloved first love of Mikey Stevonkiewicz.
I guarantee it's going to be like something in the reading. Wow. McAuliffe Cigars is added a fifth softbox Prestoro in its color series. Like the previous four, it's a smoke-in exclusive.
Aha. 5x54 box press fatola made with a Brazilian Montefina wrapper covering a Mexican San Andreas Negro binder and Nicaraguan filler tobaccos. The cigars are made at the McAuliffe factory in Nicaragua, Michael's favorite factory. Yep.
Each cigar is an MSRP of? Pylon. $9. Yeah, at the Pylon Room.
It's in the Pylon Room. Pylon. 5x54. $154, I'm going to say, what'd you say?
$9. $13. $9. Yes, baby!
Is it really? Apparently everything's $9 right now, any cigar coming out, $9. $9 is the threshold. 2026 is $9 for, that's the way it works.
Package in 10 count boxes, how do you, a soft box, so like a soft pack. Soft box press. Oh, not a soft box. Yeah.
Oh, it's squishy. I was thinking it was going to be like cigarettes, you know, they come in a paper pack. Yeah, these are coming in a, yeah. Oh my God.
You just slam them down, you gotta slam them down. This is the fifth color series softbox press Toros to be sold exclusively by the Florida-based retailer. The black softbox press Toro was a 2024 release, while the same Vitolas in the blue, purple, and red lines were added last year. McAuliffe green softbox press Toro is already available to purchase at smoke-in stores.
This is one of the least two exclusive Vitolas. This week, Two Guys Cigars, a retailer in New Hampshire, is set to begin selling 6x60 Gordo versions of the Green Color Series. An email sent to McAuliffe for additional information was not immediately returned. So one got the 660, one got the 6x54.
Correct. And they're both store exclusives. Both store exclusives. And they're both $9.
And they're both... No, they didn't say what the 660 was. They didn't talk about the Gordo. Yeah, let's not price David Garoppolo's cigars for you.
Yeah. If I had to guess, though, how today's going, it was $9. Everything's $9 in 2026. Advent McKay Cigars, makers of the Adventura line of cigars, has announced that it has entered into a distribution agreement with the French company Voltus & Vitoles, by that Spanish accent, that will soon bring its cigars to France.
France has a deep appreciation of craftsmanship and cultural values of the heart of Adventura, said. Marcel Koble? Co-founder. That's not our friend at Adventure, is it?
No. Co-founder of Advent McKay Cigars Company via press release. We're thrilled to partner with Voltez and Vitoles, whose passion and respect for the cigar world align perfectly with our own philosophy. I would like one time one of these things to read.
This is who said they could move our cigars, so that's why we're going with them. We believe that they can sell well. Right. I mean, that's what I would say.
They're French. Why did you pick this distributor? Because they're bad mofos. They sell things well.
They gave us the best deal in France. You know? The best deal in France. Though the partnership, the Adventure line, top sellers begin with Blue-Eyed Jacks.
Revenge will now be available across select tobacconists in France, while the Royal Return Queen's Pearls and King's Gold will come in the second quarter of 2026. Aventura, Voltez, and Vitoles share the same passion for discovery, travel, and meaningful experiences, though the art of the cigar, said some guy whose name I'm not even close. Do it! I hate you both.
Yes. The Batao de las Cuenza. Oh, yeah, that was exactly wrong. That is exactly right.
Not even close. Did you see the Charlie post? Somebody said that they wanted us to announce the person, and then Charlie said, Well, they'll probably mispronounce it. Oh, probably.
Yeah. Who do they want us to announce? Something about a winner of the consensus or something. Oh.
Together, we invite French aficionados to embark on a journey where each Vitola tells a story, a moment of escape, and a genuine enjoyment. Ooh. That blue-eyed Jack has gotten a lot of notoriety the past couple of years. Yeah.
He has. I know you hear about them a lot. But you said it was about travel stuff. I would think it's more like pirates.
Yeah, you think so? One-Eyed Jack? A Blue-Eyed Jack. Blue-Eyed Jack.
With the Queen's Pearls and One-Eyed Jack? It's a Queen's Pearls. Well, One-Eyed Jack's a playing card, isn't it? Sounds like Pirates.
A Blue-Eyed Jack? It's not a One-Eyed Jack. Yeah. Golly.
Well, maybe the One-Eyed is Blue. It's a One-Eyed Blue-Eyed? Yes. It's a Blue-Eyed One-Eyed?
Yes. Okay. People Eater. Purple People Eater?
Purple People Eater, yes. I couldn't think of how the song went. The Purple People Eater. Yes, that's their new cigar coming out in 2027.
Oh, that would not be a pirate. For $11. Who was also a pirate. It's also a pirate.
Purple People Eater was a pirate? Yeah. I don't know, I'm finding out a lot of these pirates that we celebrate are not real. Captain Purple People Eater.
That's what they call it. There's another pirate in Texas that celebrated. He's not real either. There are no pirates in Texas.
Yeah, I mean, there's the Gulf Coast. There's a Gulf Coast there in Texas. It's too far inland. It would probably be like American-Mexican or something.
American-Mexican? Yeah. The pirates are for Spanish. Mexican-American.
Mexican-American. Mexican-American? Yeah. Mexican-American.
Okay. His name is One-Eyed Willie. That's a completely different pirate. Okay.
He's real though. Alright, it's time for the industry's favorite game show. Wait a second, I have a question I want to ask you guys. How are we moving on so fast here?
I know, we were just kind of flowing today. That's okay. I have a question. This will take a good ten minutes.
I have a question for you guys. Yes, you and Preston make a lovely couple. No, no, no. I don't know.
That's not the question. I do think he noticed your haircut. You think so? And we're not jealous.
I didn't trim the top. Yeah, we're not jealous. He didn't trim the top. He took the fact that he is the spork very well.
Wait, wait. Tristan, Preston, sorry. Tristan? Tristan?
That's Brad Pitt. That's Legend of the Fall. That's totally different. Oh, I love that movie.
Preston cut your hair? No. Oh. No, no.
He went and got a haircut before Preston showed up today. Yeah. But the way you said it, you said he didn't trim enough off the top. Well, he didn't.
No, no. He didn't from the top. Oh, right. Because it's getting thin.
Oh, you needed the comb, the old comb over. No, it's because you're not using the right gel. I'm not quite there yet, I don't think. But the comb over.
I just want to know when it gets to a point where it's too thin, it's gone. I'm just shaving it. Oh, you're just going to ball it? I'm Jason Stathaming it.
Yeah. Oh, you should go. A little scruffy. Yeah.
You know. No. I still, I probably got a couple of years here. We'll see.
So, California, UTL. Yes. Right? Okay, so I just want to shift here to actually something serious for one second.
Oh. For one second! What the hell? So, you can go onto the website and you can see if a cigar was registered or not.
Wait, is this California's website or in the stores? Yeah, it's California's website. Okay. " Powstanie, Mexican San Andreas, Pellicoso, the number two cigar elected by Half-Wheel.
Yeah. I can type all that in. Right. And then you could see if we registered and are approved by the UTL.
But you have to type it and you can't just like click, there's not like a list. I think there's a list as well. Oh, okay. But I like the search engine.
That's a hell of a list. So let me ask you a question. Yes. Deadwood Sweet Jane.
Okay. Do you think that it was on the UTL? Yes. And okay, or off the UTL because it's flavor infused?
I bet it's okay. It was on because California would probably like sweet cigars like that. But it's all about flavor bands. I understand what you're saying.
Well, Drew Estate paid the money. Yeah, this is not how California works. Yeah. This is not how California works.
Is it approved cigar? Yeah. So you both think... Wait, wait, wait.
I just want to know if you guys... I think it's approved. I want to know... I think it's on the approved list.
Okay, do you think it should be on the approved list? Not by the rules that they said. That's the question. Because are they outlawing flavored pipe tobacco?
I think they are. Oh, because is that pipe tobacco? Technically, it's pipe tobacco. I don't know how they flavored pipe tobacco.
Is it a flavored cigar or not? It is a flavored cigar. Yeah, I mean, as far as cigar people go, yeah, it's a flavored cigar. Okay, so it should or should not be on the UTL?
It should not. It should not be on the approved list. You don't think it should be on the UTL? Not by the rules that they said.
You don't think it should be on the UTL? Yeah. Guess what's on the UTL? The Sweet Jane.
The Deadwoods on there. All the Deadwoods? You know what? I didn't go...
You didn't go that deep. I didn't go down the rabbit hole completely. Gotcha. But I did check that one for whatever reason.
I'm like, oh, let me just type this in. I'm like, huh? Maybe this is broken. I don't know.
Maybe it's broken. Let me try something else. Maybe they spelled it wrong. You know?
Interesting. That is interesting. I think that's interesting. I know you only require one box, sir, but we will give you two of the Deadwoods.
Don't you think that's interesting? Here's a pie like they did in Shawshank Redemption. With my cigars. Like, I don't even, I don't understand, like, what's going under the cigars in the box?
Yeah. Wink, wink. Like, why isn't acid on there, then? Acid should be on there.
Oh, is acid not on the list? I don't think it is. I punched it in. I think that there's a lot that you're like...
Maybe Drew Estate figured out, figured out the real secret here. That the lawmakers over there don't really know what cigars are. Allegedly, something like that? Allegedly.
Yeah, okay. That the lawmakers really don't know what cigars are, and they just pass it off as regular cigars. Okay. Could be.
I mean, if they paid the money to register, they're not really testing. Yeah. Yeah, no, no. It's traditional, traditional, traditional.
Right? Yeah. Yeah, they click the traditional box. Let's see what happens.
Let them tell us now. Right. Exactly. Let them make the decision.
Okay. One more question. How many SKUs do you think STG has registered? We said on the show, I forget, but it was like 1,000 or something?
Yeah. How many SKUs do they have? I don't know. However many SKUs they have.
Like all of them. Yeah. I don't think it's quite that number, but it's close. Well, definitely room 101's over there.
I think it's all of them. I think it's a lot. It's just under 800, I believe, that are currently registered. Maybe there are others that are still being registered.
Still registered? Yeah. They're registered late? Do you know how much money that is?
It's like $300 a cigar, right? Yeah. $21,000. 8 times 3 is $21.
800 times 3. He said under 8, so I was just figuring 7. 800 x 300 is 21,000? Well, he did 700 exactly, times 300.
You think that's 21? 7 x 3? 800 x 300. No, no, that's not, that's 24.
Well, 800 x 300, yeah, is 20. It's 32. It's 32,000? No, it's 24.
Don't go in, don't suck into this, 24? Yeah. 8 x 3 is 24. Okay, so 800 x 300 is 24,000?
24,000. Okay. Don't ever handle the books. It's $240?
Yeah. It's $240,000. Oh, yeah. $40,000, yeah.
Wow. To register all those SKUs. Yeah, but for SDG, how much are they worth? It's a quarter of a million dollars.
I don't care how much you're worth. Yeah, well. And then annually, it's probably another $100,000 a year. Yeah, but what's going to be their ROI?
Those guys have somebody that figures out an ROI. All right. Right. We're going to table this for right now.
We spend this. We make this. Oh, we're going to call Justin Andrews? We're gonna table this.
We're gonna table this. Again, he's not at STG. Let me know when I can talk. You're allowed.
Are you done, Boots? Yeah, I'm done. All right, we're done. Go ahead.
Okay, thank you. We're gonna table this. I do have some other questions that we're gonna kind of give in throughout the week, I think. We'll see how this kind of goes.
But I do want to start to cover some of this topic a little bit more on the Patreon. Yes. Whether it's this week or next week. Because I know you had something else you want to talk about on the Patreon.
I got a couple things for the Patreon. I mean, they might not be as exciting as you were the minute I thought about it on Saturday. Okay. Okay.
And we have to talk about the cigar. Yeah. All right. Now we're ready for: What's the Score?
Without Boots. Without Boots. Without Phil saying anything. Oh, does Boots do that?
Phil does. Well, you said I was talking too much, so I, you know. Oh, you talk all you want. I heard him little feelings.
You talk all you want. Alright, the cigars from July 8th, 2016, reviewed by Mr. Brooks Whittington. Limited edition reviews, because we talked about this the other day, the Viaje Zombie Biohazard Green.
Part of the SHOT series, so that I chose. You want me to go first, or you want... Yeah, you go first. Brooks, Viaje, 2018.
Zombie, Biohazard, Green. 89. He's a tat guy, right? And this is Viaje.
It's kind of close. Is it? Maybe. I don't think so.
What? I'd have to go with 86. Let's go 86. That's a good Brooks number.
86. That's a good Brooks number. Okay. All right.
Cigar Reviews, Viaje, Zombie, Biohazard, Green. Country of origin. No, not saying. Factory.
50, it was released in March of 2016. Oh, 2016. Yes, that's when the cigar was released, not when it was reviewed, two different days. Gotcha.
They smoked three cigars. My feet are cold in here. I think 89. 86.
All right. First clue. Are you looking it up? No, I have it right here.
I'm going to read it. No, it's Phil looking it up. He can't spell Viaghe. You guys forget.
I do the cameras for a living here. Yeah. First of all, this is a hard thing to do. If that's what you do for a living, we're all in trouble.
I said here. Let's be perfectly clear. Everything we do here is not for a living. Well, yeah.
It's for the love of the game, for God's sakes. It's just for sport. Unless somebody, you know, takes out that $500 VIP experience. VIP experience.
I can't wait till we get our first one, too. The Viaje Zombie Biohazard Green delivers an impressively layered profile from start to finish, showcasing sweet cedar, earth, leather, green pepper, maple sweetness, and evolving nutty and chocolate tones. The progression from spicy and bold to creamy and refined keeps the smoking experience engaged and well balanced. Hmm.
Eighty-nine. Eighty-six. Construction is a strong point with an excellent draw once the covered foot opens and consistently solid burn through most of the cigar. Smoke production stays steady and the strength builds smoothly into a comfortable medium range without overpowering the palate.
hmm 90 87 just following me you both said 87 no i said 90 and he i moved up a point so he moved up a point while the flavor remains in third clue where the flavor remains enjoyable in the final third the burn becomes slightly inconsistent and requires multiple chup chups and the profile Kyle loses some of the spice and vibrancy that made the earlier portion more dynamic. - Oh. - Third clue, not final thought. - Yes, third clue, not final thought.
I don't know why you guys can't carry every time you ask these questions. - Just follow along. Three clues, final thought. - I just want to make sure, buddy.
Can't I just trust but verify? - No. - Is that so wrong? 88.
- So this is the final thought. - No, it's the third clue. - Next is the final thought. That was the third clue.
You know what's even better is the fact that I asked, and then he said that he had to follow up with it. Well, I just, you did it on purpose. Yeah, I did it on purpose. I got you.
Yeah. 87. Final thought. Oh, hello.
All right, this is the last one, guys. Got it. I have made no secret of the fact that I have found the vast majority of the zombie cigars to be either overly strong, fairly linear, or a combination of both. However, the zombie biohazard green is not.
While still featuring some obvious strengths the profile is indefinitely more balanced and features a wonderful maple sweetness on the retrohale that is present in various amounts from the first puff to the last in addition the overall excellent construction made it a joy to smoke in that regard yes they are difficult to get a hold of especially now that they are sold out but they are well worth the effort to track down if you can find them that's it it's all done this is your Last score. Boots, did you hear that? Last score. Was that your final thought?
So that was the final thought? That was the final thought. This is the final score that goes after the final thought. Okay.
I'm going to stay 88. That was the number I liked too. Yeah? Not anymore.
It's fine. Well, you both say the same number, can't you? No, that's not fun. You did yesterday with the 91 on the young name.
Well, because we knew what that cigar was. You did not. Nobody knew. No, because I knew what the rating was.
I never said what it was. The only reason why you stuck with 91 is because I knew what it was. Yeah, it's not fair. You can't pick your cigar.
Yeah. Okay. I never said what it was. You knew what that cigar was.
It was very topical for the day. Yeah, it was very topical for the day. All right. We just know how to read you, Palmer.
It wasn't like it was that far off. You said 88, huh? I didn't say, I mean, I almost didn't even say it had tobacco in it. So, I mean, I got as vague as I could.
89. 88! Boom, baby! Let's go!
Can't win if he hits it on the head. Same thing he yelled when they made it his cigar, the number two cigar for 2025. Was that something I yelled? Pretty close.
Pretty close. It was a loud scream. I thought you hurt yourself. Whew.
Exciting moment. All right. Anybody got anything else? That's it.
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Show Notes
And on Todays show we have the days biggest story in Sports! Then it’s Florida News Tuesday! From The wacky world of our Lawlesss Swamps….a man eats his pets out of spite, You can’t stay in a non 24 hr Walmart for 24 hrs….what do you mean that’s not his car? And then a follow tp a story we are following. Switching to cigar news we have a bunch of new sticks coming and then finally a mini game of what’s the score!