ACHP Episode 464 Cigars, TrumpRX, Spiderman and Honey Bees
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Welcome to a Cigar Hustler
podcast episode 464.
Anybody know how many two guys
has no cigar authority?
We got to be catching up.
Oh, we're going to, yeah.
Eventually we'll pass.
We're going to eclipse them,
right?
Because they like to advertise.
We've done more shows than
anyone else.
No, they say that they're the
longest running show.
Oh, is that how they do it?
Yeah.
Do they do it by episodes or
years?
And they're still the longest
running show.
We can't beat them that way
unless we do it as number of
hours that you've done it.
Well, the yeah.
Oh, except our show's an hour.
Their show is like 3 or
something in it.
We can factor, we can figure it
out.
All right.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host.
And with me today, as always, is
Phil.
Give me that racetrack food,
Mcguffey sitting over there in
engineering.
Hello Peoples did.
You bring any with you today.
Racetrack food.
Yeah, there there was a
racetrack pizza box out in front
of the store this morning.
No.
Is that you?
That wasn't you.
Oh, you mean the gas station?
Yes, race track the gas station.
No, I haven't made that.
Since he's working at a
racetrack, I see the confusion.
Yeah, right.
No, I haven't eaten at at the
racetrack gas station since I
had the the poisoning thing.
Oh, alright.
Yeah fuck that alright.
And my Co host Mike.
I hope they don't talk about
food again.
My pants are getting tight.
Step on Kevitch.
Are they?
My pants are getting.
Tight.
That's what you said.
Interesting.
They don't like us talking about
food.
It makes you hungry.
That's what I said, yes.
Interesting.
I don't remember saying that,
but OK.
He might have been in some kind
of food coma or something.
Things happen and you don't
remember.
It's the way it works.
On today's show, we have Trump
RX, your new prescription
provider.
The NFLMVP was chosen yesterday
and now you can watch Spider Man
for free.
That's exciting.
It is exciting.
Which one?
Which one?
Home, home.
Far away from home.
No, no, the one where he's at
home.
I am home.
Homecoming.
Homecoming.
Homecoming, yes, we have some
information about that movie and
we have why you can watch it for
free.
Excellent.
And then in a cigar, then in
cigar news, we have a couple of
more new cigars.
Everybody's putting out new
cigars right now.
When do they start saying
available at the PCA?
And then Charlie says what the
PCA dates is.
Usually like a week before PCA.
No, it's like months before.
What this is, is people are
announcing them and a lot of
them, they're not even out.
They're just announcing them.
Right.
Well, but normally when Charlie
does these stories at the end it
was, you know, will be available
for purchase at the PCA April
blah blah blah to blah blah
blah.
Yeah.
But he's not doing that yet.
But you know what, I don't know,
maybe they haven't said that
that's the case.
Maybe maybe they're taking
orders before PCA and then
they're going to offer it at
PCA.
Yeah.
And then there's a new state
bill, but this time it's in our
favor.
Oh.
Finally, finally, we get one.
We get a got a dub.
We got a dub.
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You know what's funny is I told
you that when we were talking
about the Airbnb, yada yada,
about the three guys that were
murdered and I said, hey, I
don't you know, I'm probably
going to screw this up or
whatever, right?
You know, of course, someone
commented.
You did screwed up.
Welcome to the club.
Then they said that, yeah, I'm a
hot mess or whatever the case,
they said nasty things.
They said nasty things.
So I wrote, I wrote back and I
said thank you for clarifying.
Been waiting for you.
Oh, there he is, we all have
been waiting for.
This.
Well, thank you.
Thank you so much for arriving
with your negativity.
Those vintage lighters are up
there in your desk.
There's about 14 of them.
OK All right, moving on to the
news.
White House launches direct to
consumer drug site called Trump
RX.
Look at where his Mike is, it's
practically in his nose.
I can't see him.
And mine.
I'm talking to you.
Oh yeah, no, I talked to 1.
Side it just looks like it from
that angle.
Well, the Are you wearing the
Huggies or the Pampers today?
The Pampers today.
Oh, maybe that's why they're a
little thinner, so he's a little
shorter.
Thicker like or thicker?
Like if you just tilted it, like
look at how this is tilted.
It's out of my face completely.
Now from here, from here, looks
like it's covering your chin and
your bottom lip.
Yeah, How's he?
Look, no.
Mikey's is perfect.
Yeah, I can see his whole face,
Palmer.
I can't see your Cindy Crawford
little mole on the right side of
your cheek.
Crawford mole where you want it?
Over here.
How's that?
No, I don't.
No, I can't hear you.
Just tilt it.
Tilt it up and down, left,
right, what?
Keep tilting.
Keep tilting.
Am I tilting down?
No, no.
Just tilt the microphone.
There you go.
There you go.
Look at you.
Hello.
Hello.
All right.
President Donald Trump on
Thursday announced the launch of
Trump RXA direct to consumer
website that is key to
administrator's efforts to lower
prescription drug costs in USA.
So what he's done and he's
gotten together with 12 to 14
drug manufacturers that are
willing to sell direct to
consumer at a discounted price.
Really.
OK.
It's kind of like, what's that
one that does it now Him Is it
called him?
Him.
No, it's not hims and hers.
It's not Ed drugs.
Oh, isn't there like a thing
though that you can get like
like the weight loss
supplements?
Yeah, they weight loss, hair
growth, Ed stuff.
Is that anxiety?
You think that's what Trump is
doing right now?
Well, he's working with only
certain ones.
We're on Ed meds.
No, I'm not saying he's working
with Ed meds.
He could be.
Maybe that's a real problem I
heard in America.
So so have you heard that?
That is a real problem in
America.
Yeah, you know that, OK.
So you log into the website, you
search for your drug.
If it's on the list, you click
the link and it sends you to
whoever makes that drug and then
they are willing to sell it to
you at a discounted price if you
don't have insurance.
Now, if you have insurance at
this moment you are not
eligible.
What?
What funny stuff that is, right?
Hey, I have insurance, all
right?
It's going to be $1800 for the
one pill.
We're going to bill your
insurance company, but I don't
have insurance.
I'm going to use Trump RX.
Well, it's free.
It's going to be 50 bucks and we
no, it's not free.
It's going.
To be yeah, there's still it's
discounted, not free.
Like that shows you how broken
this whole system is.
Right.
I mean, you know, we have health
insurance and my primary doctor
no longer takes that insurance,
right?
I still go to my primary and to
to visit my primary.
It's like 180 bucks cash, right?
Oh yeah, they have cash prices.
I've heard that too.
Yeah, but it or if if I was
insured, the insurance price
would be like $400.
Right.
Can you just imagine how much
money the insurance companies
are making though that they can
be charged those prices cause?
Do they ever go?
No.
Yeah, though you can't get that
procedure, I'm sorry of.
Course, I'm sure that that
price, the price that they
stayed with the insurance
company probably gets negotiated
down.
That's why it's set to that
price.
Oh, I know that.
Cause the VA definitely
negotiates.
I get the little bills 'cause
they, I guess they have to
provide me with them and they'll
say like this was the price that
they came back at and this is
the price I was negotiating.
It's always negotiated like 10
bucks.
Yeah, it makes no sense.
My blood pressure medicine is
cheaper without insurance.
Right, Right.
Yeah, It's crazy.
Yeah, CVS gives me.
I'm on some discount card
program or something that they
signed me up for.
Why do we need insurance?
And it keeps going down, which
is weird part.
It's never like the same price.
Can we do a cigar insurance?
I'm like, is that for 90 days
your leg goes, yeah, I'm like,
OK, wow, load me up.
Cigar insurance.
Yeah, like people just pay us
monthly and you know, if your
cigar is broken, you can use a
cigar insurance for a free one.
It's like a warranty.
Do you want to warranty that?
Yeah, yeah.
They might extended.
Warranty.
You want a two year warranty We.
Should try that.
Add $2.00 or add 2 bucks to it
or something If you like.
Get the $2.00 extended warranty.
Right.
And then when you go to use it
like, Oh no, you got a call.
Yeah, right.
Where's your receipt?
Yeah, keep track.
We don't.
Keep track of that.
Oh, you don't have that?
Sorry about that.
You're going to have to make
sure you have a real ID when you
do the warranty as well.
You know it's.
The official one, not like a
fake ID, but a real ID with the
little star on.
It dude it's so wack.
So like a few years ago I bought
that Jack the Skellington. 10
foot Yeah, the giant thing for
your house.
Yeah, and they and at Home Depot
they said do you want to
warranty it?
And I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll
warranty this.
Oh, you did.
I warrantyed.
It yeah, I warrantyed it.
Oh wow yeah windstorm came by
within like 3 weeks and it
snapped the legs right off this
damn thing.
Mayhem came out.
Yeah, yeah.
So, so I went, I went to Home
Depot and I said, hey, I want a
new one.
They're like, well, we don't
have any more.
Said OK, They said did you
warranty it?
I go, I did OK, so like you got
to call this number.
So I call this number and and
I'm under this, this whole
chasing thing trying to figure
this out for like at least a
month to try and get a new one.
And it didn't work.
So what I do, I put in a box,
brought it back to Home Depot.
Do you have a receipt?
No, they just took it back.
Exactly.
Yeah, I don't know why.
Home Depot.
Yeah.
They just take it back.
They didn't even look as if it
was broken, did they?
No, I'm like, it's broken.
Didn't work.
OK, here you go.
Take years.
I'm like, so I got you want to
know when I'm out?
I'm out.
The money that I bought for the
warranty.
You call the number and they're
like, hello, would you like to
get a $600,000 loan today?
Wait, is this the warranty
program did?
You buy the warranty.
Would you like to talk to
someone?
Yeah, Oh, sorry, yeah, sorry.
Warranty for Home Depot.
Go see them. $50.00 to see them.
We do not handle that done over
the phone, you silly man.
Put it in box it.
Was wild.
It makes no sense.
Do.
You want, you want to warranty
this.
You know what, for whatever
reason, I had this moment of
weakness and I'm like, you know
what, It's a holiday decoration.
I got to put it up.
I got to put it down.
Well, it was inexpensive.
Yeah, it's.
Probably going to break.
Let me cover this.
Now you'll know next time.
Fuck no, I did that last time.
I didn't.
Get shit so.
You can.
So you can only do it like 2
times in a month just by the
way.
Return without a receipt.
Yeah, that's the rule.
You don't know that rule until
you're denied.
Until the third time.
Yeah, yeah, it really pisses you
off.
You're like, really?
Really, you couldn't tell me
that last time I would have
bought this?
You've exceeded the return
limits.
Before yes.
They tried to sell me extended
warranty for the SD card I just
bought for the camera.
Yeah, for 8 bucks.
Yeah, well you, Well I ended up
paying 12 for the SD card and I
think it was 4 for the extended
warranty.
Wow, the guy just reached over
and hit no on the machine.
Right, like he already knows.
You're not buying it for this.
This is stupid.
Do you buy extended warranty for
your cars?
No, no.
Really, I do.
Do you?
Yeah, that's like one of the
only things that and anything I
buy from Harbor Freight.
Really.
Yeah, 'cause I know it's going.
To break, just buy another one.
It's cheaper than the warranty
probably.
No, it's not like let's say,
like, I mean I buy big tools
from Harbor Freight.
So like I have like a a
jackhammer that I bought from
them.
It was like, I don't know, 800
bucks.
I bought the warranty.
I think the warranty was like
$180 and it it broke with after
the first time I used it, you
know, within a month and I took
it back and they gave me a brand
new one for the 180 bucks.
I judge my GCS by the tools they
use, so if you're using harbor
freight I got questions.
There's only some like the big
stuff like that, yeah, that I'm
buying from them because if it
breaks, I get a new one.
Yeah, DeWalt, you have to be
baseline as DeWalt.
Was it improper use of said slit
as a jackhammer?
Who knows man, I got
construction workers that work
for me.
Yeah, they usually take it, then
they steal everything.
The Mexican price wins.
There's yeah, there's only,
there's only so many brain
cells.
These guys, man, I.
Was outside drilling drilling
holes for like a hurricane
coming from put wood up one time
and I I don't have a hammer, I
don't have anything.
No tools at all.
I do have some.
I've I've acquired some at this
point and my neighbor came
across this is like, what are
you trying to do?
I was like, I was just trying to
drill these holes.
Like here he gives me his hammer
drill and it's a Hilti.
Oh oh, that's super expensive.
Yeah, so I didn't know.
I was like, OK, cool, thanks.
I'm like, oh, this works great.
And my brother comes over.
He goes, where the hell did you
get that?
He's like, oh, my neighbors let
me use it.
He goes Hilti.
I said yeah.
With the drill where you hold it
and you turn the crank on the
side.
And put the holes in it.
That's exactly what it is.
Yeah, No.
And not the Hilti the one you
used before.
That no, the one before that was
it was like it had a stick on
the bottom and it had like a
Shank on one side and it was
round.
Yeah, nice.
Some people call it a hammer.
That was the joke.
Yeah, but you didn't pick up.
Yeah, he didn't pick.
Up.
No, I didn't pick up.
No, no.
Samantha, all right.
Guys, Matthew Stafford wins in.
Losing.
We're losing pizza in by the
drones.
We're losing pizza by the.
Drones.
By the drones.
Yes, by the drones.
You should see the image I have
on my phone.
Matthew Stafford wins NFLMVP and
closest vote since 2003.
All right, guys, go ahead.
Talk about it.
You said talk about it, OK.
OK, it's perfect.
I'm, I'm more than happy to talk
to you about this because here's
what I'm going to tell you.
Let's do it.
Here's what I'm going to tell
you, OK?
I'm listening.
I'm mentally unstable right now,
by the way, you know?
Alright, I've listened.
I had to listen to Oh shit,
what's the name of the band I
had to listen to?
Nirvana.
No, no, it's worse than that.
I was listening to Coldplay, so
I didn't kill anybody.
I looped it.
I looped it all day, all
morning.
Here's what I'm going to tell
you.
Number one, Bill Belichick gets
snubbed.
Hall of Fame, OK #2 Tom Brady
says I don't have a dog in the
fight when it comes to the Super
Bowl.
And then #3 Drake may get
snubbed for being MVP.
The guy, the guy is doing MVP
things.
Russian passing, all of it.
I'm going to tell you right now,
I hope the Patriots slaughter
the Seahawks in this game on
Sunday.
I hope it's an absolute
embarrassment.
Why don't I hope they each score
a rushing touchdown and a
passing touchdown in each out?
Because the money makers have a
prop bat.
Apparently, yeah.
Yes, hope they eat score.
Rushing ties in, you know, OK,
this is how I see the Super Bowl
now.
First of all, what you're
talking about.
Usually on TV.
I don't think Matt Stafford
should have been the MVP at all.
I do agree out of all the
quarterbacks, I think Drake May
was the best because of what he
had to work with.
Palmer would like to say
something.
He's raised his hands against
Palmer.
By the time this airs Super
Bowl, we'll have had happened.
Yeah, but don't worry, I'm going
to clip this and put it up
today.
There we go.
It's going to be a short reel,
yeah.
But I, I do agree, I think he
should have been the MVP.
Now how I think the Super Bowl
is going to go, I think it's
going to be a close game, man.
I mean, these two teams both
have power offenses, both have
power defenses.
I think it's going to come down
to the coaching at this point.
I don't agree with you.
No, no.
And here's why.
Sam Darnold is the most sporadic
quarterback in the NFL.
Like he can be.
He could throw bombs or he could
totally screw the pooch.
And I think that he's going to
make a few mistakes and both of
these defenses are powerful
enough where the Patriots are
going to capitalize.
I don't think that it's close.
I think it's 2413 when it's all
said.
And.
Done.
It's got to be more than that.
Nope, I don't think so.
It's got to be more than that.
What do you make her say it's.
Got to be more, yeah, it's got
to be at least 3524.
I'm cool with that, I think.
It's 2413. 2413 huh?
That's my guess.
Oh, by the time this airs, it'll
be Monday, so.
Then the what's the sports
awards?
SPS.
It happened last night.
That happened, yeah.
That.
It wasn't the SPS, though.
I don't know.
That's the Isn't that like a
Sports Illustrated?
Thing the NFL one.
Yeah, the NFL one was last.
I watched a little bit of it.
I was here at the I was here at
Hustler.
Yeah.
I don't know why they do these
things.
Maybe just more airtime the see
make people see the NFL.
It's more exposure, yeah.
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
Because most of the stuff that
they give out, it's like, who
for what?
Well, that's why you acknowledge
them.
Oh, it's the participation
awards, right?
Of the NFL.
Oh, everybody gets a trophy.
Everybody gets a trophy, OK?
All right, that's how you get
reports.
OK.
All right, now moving on ahead
of Marvel's next Spider Man
movie, you need to rewatch
Homecoming.
So on several streaming
services, Homecoming is free for
the next 30 days.
Is the new Spider Man movie
supposed to come out in 30 days?
Is it?
Yes.
Really.
Yep.
Which is sometime in March or
April.
Are you talking about the
Amazing Spider Man or?
No, not the cartoon, the Tom
Holland Spider man.
Really.
I don't know if I believe you on
that.
That's what the story said.
It was a trending topic.
Next movie, new movie.
Let's see.
Tom Holland, Make sure you put
Tom Holland.
Brand new day I don't.
Know what it's called?
I think.
I think that one already came.
Out set for release July 31st,
2026.
I'm just telling you what he
said.
Well, maybe they're giving you
90.
Days or whatever it is that
summertime.
Well, he didn't say a specific
time when it's coming out.
He just said that it's it's
going to come out.
Yeah, he said next month.
That's what it said.
You got to remember that a lot
of the like the big movies, the
Spider Man movies.
Those are mostly summer movies.
Yeah, they're summer hits,
right?
So yeah, that's going to be July
without so.
OK, so somebody's doing
something for free.
You can watch it for free
because they want you to see
this movie before the next one
comes out because apparently
they're connected somehow.
Oh, they're all, they're all
kind of linked, right?
Yeah.
Well, The Homecoming 1 is the
only Tom Hollands movie that
takes place in his hometown.
The other ones were not.
I mean, the one was over in
Europe.
Far away or whatever.
And right, and then one brand
new day, there's an outer space
when that one, I mean, that
wasn't a Spider Man movie.
Outer space.
Yeah, the The Avengers movie,
Avengers, he was in it.
Yeah, and he was in space.
Yeah, he went up in the flying
doughnut thing.
In the flying doughnut, Yeah,
but he don't have to watch that
one.
No, that has nothing to do with
the story.
Yeah, right.
You think someone will click us
right on this one and say that
we're a complete idiot and we
don't, We don't know.
We're Spider Man.
Oh, definitely 'cause this is a
superhero thing.
You don't know what you're
talking about in the fake
pretend universe, idiot it.
Was also the only Spider Man
movie to have a traditional St.
level bad guy that Spider Man
comics are known for.
It was the Vulture.
Yeah, it was the bad guy.
Got it.
So this, so this.
So who's the bad guy on this
upcoming?
Yeah, I haven't.
I haven't seen that yet.
I don't know.
The Seagull.
The seagull?
I don't know.
I've heard that guy's notorious.
Yeah, yeah.
He's as notorious as this.
Walks wrong with mine mine mine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think it might have been a
mistake giving Phil a camera
because he's clicked to himself
a few times.
I just, I mean, I thought it was
a good joke.
I have BIG on my face.
I was.
Like notice in the editing
process there is a lot of just
Phil's faces doing expressions.
Let me jump to me.
Yeah, jump to me because I
haven't been on lately and let
me just make a.
Like the Scott Pierce one.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Scott Pierce, he did a blurry he
like he took he took the
seriousness out of that one
portion of the of the whole
thing right, And he just his.
Face.
Boo, he threw his like.
I had to do something, man.
We were sitting here for like 45
minutes listening.
It was before the call.
It was redundant.
Long answer, Palmer.
I don't know, I didn't
understand what.
Exactly.
You were sleeping over there.
I.
Don't think it was redundant,
but it was.
I thought it was very, very well
spoken.
For not knowing what we were
going to talk about, he was very
prepared.
Yeah.
Well, I think that he has a
vision and an intention and I
think that that's clear.
The question is, without giving
too much away, is that vision
and intention good for the cigar
industry or is it good just for
the bigger brand owners and
manufacturers?
And now you have to go listen to
find out.
Check it out.
It's kind of like, here's the
like, here's the real question.
The real question is should we
be regulated to a point like
liquor or alcohol, or should we
be unregulated as much as the
NRA fights for gun rights?
Like where do we?
Where do we sit?
I don't know, but just send us
your 1995 per month.
Wow, so we can get you a new
mask?
Yeah, please.
It's.
Got a new mask for God's sakes.
It's two shows old.
No, I like this mask.
I think we should.
This should be on the store.
That should be on the store.
Yeah.
I'm not putting stickers on 75
black. $50 mask.
You go ahead and produce them.
OK, you make them.
And then I'll put them on the
store.
You can buy that on Amazon, I
think it was 9 bucks and then
I'll give you the stickers.
Can you just put the picture on
there first so we can see how
many orders and then I make them
per thing?
No, that's not how that works.
No, it's.
Custom made by Boots?
No, you will.
We have so many available you
want to.
How many people have mentioned
that mask so far?
I don't.
Want to hear it 'cause you're
going to hurt my feelings.
You're right.
They like the bear nose better.
Which is.
Oh, whatever.
Right all.
Right.
Well, you can watch Spider Man
on Peacock if you want.
It's for a limited time.
Only on Peacock.
No, Peacock was the main one
they mentioned, but it's on a
couple others too.
OK, I'm going to watch it this
weekend.
Yeah, me too.
It's on Peacock.
The wife is dog sitting for for
some friends so I have the
house.
Sounds like she just needs a
break from you.
Oh, I gotta be watching the
dogs.
No, no, no, no.
They're paying her to watch the
dogs.
Next.
All right, Michael, we got a
video.
No.
But I got some comments.
You want me to talk about the
comments?
Yeah, I read the comments.
All right, because one just
popped up.
Here they must be exciting
comments because he really
wanted to get those out.
They don't make fun of him, so
he likes doing that.
Right, he remind, he wanted to
remind you of the comments.
We had one yesterday that made
fun of him and he didn't read
it.
I had.
To read it, I didn't mind it.
I don't mind that stuff.
Yeah, but you didn't read it.
I didn't see it.
How could you not see it?
You read the one before?
The one after, because it wasn't
here, I was looking at it and I
didn't see it.
OK, whatever.
It didn't say Palmer boots in
it, so he skimmed over.
At Thomas Bozita, and I
apologize for screwing up your
last.
Name oh the Bovita guy?
Oh, the Bovita guy, we like him.
I know Boots is the jester but
he needs to lose the gimmicks to
get more respect unless he
constantly is losing bets.
Is that the gimmick the the
money makers?
Well, I got to tell you, you
know, he's not going to lose the
gimmicks, just for the record,
so you could.
Forget you know, in the skip
thing the other night we
mentioned the text like I almost
just said Bing bong just so I
can play in it.
Bing Bong Team money says Boost
Looks like the team move version
of mankind.
Laugh out loud.
Have an OK day.
Hey, have an OK.
Mankind says have a nice day.
Yeah, yeah, Stephen Wells says
there is a rumor that Chapter
Pod is going to have a
commercial during the Super
Bowl.
Please, please let me know what
time.
I don't want to miss it.
Well, at this point this show is
aired, so we'll let you know how
that went and I'm going to give,
I'm going to give two more here,
Nargar said.
Palmer describing spam ads on
websites is next level.
Hilarious.
I wonder how many fake IQ tests
he's taken.
Laugh out loud.
And you saw my response,
obviously.
I don't always look at your
response because normally it's
just laughing faces.
Oh, no, remember back like back
in the day when you were on
Facebook, you would always hit
those.
What type of animal are you or
what type of.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, so that's the way you all
the time.
Yeah.
So you don't.
Do those anymore?
Yeah, sometimes you were a pit
bull.
Sometimes you're like a
retriever, you're a warrior.
Like you're all kinds of things
like you.
You do you kind of, you kind of
fall into those.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just.
Because he's sitting at home
bored.
Well, it makes content too.
The idea on Facebook is to keep
making content.
So that was easy for you now
now.
We gotta come up with stuff.
They don't do those anymore.
You gotta come up with stuff
with all the AI things.
Yeah, I'm back to being paid
again.
So I mean, I gotta, I gotta up
my numbers again.
You're.
Back to being paid again, you
got for, Yeah.
I got the suspension for putting
in pictures of me and you as
children.
Yeah, I was exploiting children
somebody reported me for.
Exploiting children.
Like it was me and him.
And it was AI pictures.
Palmer was not in the Epstein
files, by the way.
I.
Was not on the island for God
sakes.
That was me as a child, talking
to him as a child.
All right, let me we're going to
talk about that in one second
here before I go, Data Cash 2004
said Racetrack Pizza is at the
top of the gas station food
chain.
Oh my God, it's not.
I hope he's like an over the
road driver where he knows
exactly that that.
He's not.
Yeah.
So who is that?
You know who?
It is Paul.
Yeah.
Oh, is that Paul?
We stop at race, we stop at race
tracks, but we just get drinks.
Yeah, or things in bags.
So I don't know if you've
noticed this.
And look, full disclaimer 'cause
you know, here comes some
Internet person.
I'm not a cryptocurrency
extraordinaire, but Bitcoin is
tanking.
It's at like 64,000 last time I
checked.
Could be lower now, yeah.
And they were just giving away
like a million of it or.
Something and they're talking
about the fact that Epstein is
linked to all of these things
that he that he invested in an
early and then on on the social
media platforms they're all
saying that he is the guy that
started Bitcoin like that's the
rumor yeah.
No, they they, they know who the
guy.
Was No, they don't.
Oh, I thought it was like some
type of Japanese.
Dude, that's his name but nobody
knows who he is 0.
Oh, it's a fake name.
Yeah, Oh, so, so now everybody's
saying that, hey, this is the
end of the crypto and this is
what it's tanking and blah,
blah, blah, blah.
It sounds like it's time to buy
if you ask me.
Yeah, that's exactly what I
mean.
You know, I was like.
Dip, dip, dip, dip half.
Price, I'll take half price,
right?
They released like 1,000,000
pages or something from the
files and you didn't hear what
was on.
Any 3,000,000?
Oh no, it's been leaking out.
Oh yeah, and then the cleansed.
Well, they agreed to testify.
Yeah, I saw that.
But that's all I saw.
I didn't hear anything else.
It's over.
It's over, Johnny.
It's over for the Clans.
Some jobs, there's some, there's
some stuff going on.
If the Clintons testify and this
is the worst that they get
hammered for, they'll be in the
clear 'cause there's definitely
some stuff they've done in the
past.
You think it's like Takashi 69
where he just starts rattling
off everything?
Oh yeah, he just.
Bill just gives it up and just
starts saying everything.
Yeah, yeah, most.
We killed the people.
We did it.
What are you going to?
Do Allegedly.
Allegedly.
I'm Bill Clinton.
Yeah, right, honey, No.
No, he's not going to say it.
Hillary comes in front of.
Him.
Yeah, Bill's not allowed to talk
anymore.
He's got to take it all the.
Same.
I got this, Bill.
Yeah.
You just sit over there with
Monica.
OK, wow.
What?
That was no way.
Wasn't Hillary like, didn't she
come out of the closet or
something?
No.
I've heard that rumor also.
It's a rumor.
Oh, OK, well, sorry.
Didn't.
She allegedly came out of the
closet.
No truth anymore.
Listen, I just wanted to know if
Boots doesn't show up to
Monday's show, we know exactly
what happened.
A little a little visit from.
We know exactly he didn't kill
himself.
That's all I'm saying.
He didn't kill himself.
All right, Right.
You know, we all know Boots and
he cherishes his life about
he's.
Afraid of death he's definitely
scared of.
Death of everything.
Definitely scared of death, yes.
Correct.
He doesn't even like to talk
about it.
He just creeps him out.
I.
Don't even like this being the
black door behind me or
whatever's behind me.
It looks like a door in the
screen.
A black door?
Are you afraid of black doors?
Yeah, I just don't like the the
color of death anyways.
All right, now we got a little
cigar situation, let's say.
OK.
Situation, yeah.
So I would have by now done my
event at in Saint Augustine at
island gyms.
OK, now there's a brand called
Honeybee Cigars that commented
on my post for it couple of days
ago or something, that it's a
young lady owns it, that she had
gone in there to sell her cigars
a while ago, 'cause that's her
local shop or she lives in Saint
Augustine or something.
They gave her the, we're not
adding anything right now.
Our humidor is too full.
Standard move, standard move,
right?
So apparently she got a little
upset, thought they should carry
her cigars because that is, you
know, 'cause she's a local
person and her cigars are good
in her opinion, right?
But they didn't.
She's.
Passionate.
Yeah, she put that comment up on
my on my promotional thing.
That whole thing.
Yeah, yeah, it's quite long.
Wow.
And then she's also tagged me in
a a rather lengthy rant about
how other cigar shops aren't
carrying her cigars.
She's some type of conspiracy
thing where, oh, you know,
keeping whatever.
OK, OK, so I love, I love it
when anybody goes there.
Yes.
Oh, I know what's going tagged.
Me on her post on on Instagram
also.
Whenever you hear the I know
what's going on here, right?
OK, dude.
Right, So anyway, Island, Jim,
being the very nice man he is,
saw the post and I had already
invited her to come by the shop
Friday night 'cause she was
local.
Come by, say hello, introduce
yourself, blah blah blah, right?
Jim said the same thing.
Come on by Friday night, let's
talk, right?
You know in some way to make it
right and then Jim right
probably would have picked it up
maybe.
Possibly.
Yeah, a couple of sticks, you
know, a box or two or something.
He's very nice like that because
they do when I'm in there.
The guys were there to go.
Yeah, Jim bought that.
So we have to put this on the
shelf too type thing.
He's got a lot of friends that
make cigars and he likes to take
care of his friends.
So anyway, she answered back,
no, I can't make it.
I'm very busy.
Wow, right.
Why don't you guys come to my
next event and I guess it's out
of feel good farms or feel good
winery, whatever the place is
called.
Oh, those 10.
Thank you for the invitation.
Then something about some
tagline for cigars, Something
about them being sticky or
something.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it you know, so we both
invited her to come, right.
I would have introduced her to
Jim if Jim had not had already
spoke up.
OK.
And but no, she'll no, no, you
guys come see me.
Right.
So what's your question?
Well, that's not the way it
works.
You said this is a situation.
That's.
Not a situation, not a question.
Oh yeah.
I mean, yeah, that's definitely
not how it works.
Not even close, right?
You know the you try and build a
brand, you try and establish the
brand, you try and create a
consumer that wants the brand
sure right and you build with
retailers that believe in you
and that's how the brand grows
right, right.
You know, Kudos Island Gym, he's
always been like that.
He's always, you know, he's.
Super nice man.
Right.
Hey, I mean, he gave you an open
invitation to sit down and and
have an appointment.
Good luck.
Good luck trying to talk to us
up here.
Right, right.
Like.
Yeah, first of all, nobody knows
who to own.
Yeah, get an appointment.
Hey, I'm so and so and I want to
talk to you about my cigar.
I was like, great.
Yeah, and you guys send out
Keanu?
Yeah, like dude.
You know, there's talk to this
guy.
He doesn't shave just.
Six weeks, There's no, there's
no way that like even the guys
that we place orders with.
I mean, you know, when you when,
when the Placencia guy came in
here and he thought you were me,
I said to you like half
jokingly, you should have just
went with it, dude.
I would have fed you the order,
right?
Well, I thought, I thought he
had an appointment with you.
Like you were expecting him to
come.
No, I would have fed you the
order so I could have got back
to doing all the other shit I
had to do.
Here's what we need.
Tell him you own the place.
It'll be fine, right?
Keanu did tell him I own the
place.
Right, that's fine.
I like, I have like whatever,
right, you know.
But yeah, I mean, you know, so
Ireland gym to kind of give that
invite.
That was very gracious to him.
It was, it was very nice.
You know, I'll tell you a story
that kind of happened with me.
There's a guy that I know that
was kind of in the industry.
You know, he's been in and out,
he's dabbled or whatever.
And I've always kind of liked
this guy.
He gets, he's gotten mixed
reviews of people.
You either love this guy or you
hate this guy, right?
And he's like, man, I would
really like, I really want to
work with you.
I'll I'll, you know, I want to
do something.
I'm like, OK, And I let it go.
And then he mentioned it again.
I was like, I don't know.
And then he mentioned it a third
time, said, OK, I'm going to
call you at such and such time
and we'll have a conversation.
OK, right.
I called him.
No answer.
He didn't answer the phone.
Standard.
And then he text me I was out
with my friends.
Aw, you should have just said
sorry I was busy.
Yeah, I was in another
appointment or something.
No, it was perfect for me
because now like I didn't.
Even know it worked out for you.
I'm in for him though.
Because I didn't even have to
go.
I mean, first of all, if you
said I was in another meeting or
something like that, I still
like, you know, I would have
been like he.
Had you had picked a time, I'm
gonna call you at 3:00.
O'clock right?
I still would have been like,
OK, this is gonna work.
Yeah, that would not been.
It's as as crazy as it sounds,
It's it's similar in the fashion
of like, Hey, if I call you and
you're on the road, I don't give
a shit.
Answer the phone, right?
Like I'm not calling to say
what's going on, bro.
Like there's not that's not
happening, right?
I'm calling you because I need
you and I have information and
or I need something answered,
right.
So hey, I'm sorry, dude.
Love you retailer Not as
important as what the hell is on
this other line, right?
So, yeah, and that's how I took
that.
I'm like, OK, well, if you're,
if it's, if it's not that
important to you, especially if
you hang out with your boys,
then like, perfect.
Right Now you have no guilt at
all.
Yeah.
Because, you know, I almost
opened up this door and now I
don't have to because you showed
me exactly who you are without
by by not taking the call.
Right.
And that doesn't mean the guy's
a bad person.
That doesn't mean that, you
know, this, this that he's not
going to be successful in
anything else.
I just know that he's not a the
person that's going to fit for
us 'cause he's not in.
Right, right.
Because, you know, and I know
that it isn't about the pay.
Like you, the goal is to make a
lot of money.
Sure.
But that's not where we're at
yet.
Right.
Right.
So there you go.
Right.
Yeah.
Nice face there.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
Ain't not about the pay, right?
So the owner of a retail of a
retail operation gives you an
opportunity to visit them, You
go and visit them, right?
Right.
Certainly.
You take, you take the meeting,
Yeah.
And it's a Friday night.
What is she doing?
She's creating honeybee cigars.
Hanging out with her friends,
right.
And you very rarely get in on a
first visit anyway.
Yeah.
No.
With a brand that you know,
nobody knows, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Now she's got some big thing
over at Feel Good Winery with a
10 or 15 different vendors.
I haven't heard of any of them.
They're all cigar brands.
Really.
Yeah.
I would love just to go there
and just to we should get the
sticks and bring them to smoke a
ball on the show.
It's 25 to $100 a ticket to get
in.
How do you get?
In and you don't get free
ticket, you don't get free
cigars.
OK, so first of all, we wish all
these people the best,
certainly.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I just, I'm you said 25 to $100.
Where's the gauge?
Like how to use the slider?
There's different, there's
different levels.
It's a.
Question of what you're wearing
when you approach.
Suit.
I think at $100 you get 3
cigars.
But.
Three, yeah, but like for 25,
'cause I was just looking at it,
for 25 you get in the door and
get to register for prizes.
The middle level you get to
register for prizes twice or
something like that.
So you get 3 cigars.
That means they're all it.
Might be 3 cigars.
Per.
Vendor.
But so look, it sounds like this
whiner whatever is trying to do
something new, which is.
Trying, yeah.
Well, they're getting a piece of
it because he told me about it
and asked me if we wanted to be
part of it, and I was like, no,
right.
Aren't your cigars already
there, though?
They are, yeah.
So why do you have to do the?
Because it's a honeybee cigar
thing that he's getting a piece
of.
Ah, got it.
No, I mean like, look, there are
all these multi vendor things
where all these guys ask you for
stuff and like there are some
people that we'll try and cater
to and and and do what we can,
sure, but the reality is that we
got to make money.
Like I can't just, yeah, you
know, I mean.
It's funny how you say it.
I just had this conversation
today with somebody really well,
you can't be in business and not
make money, then you have no
business, right?
So we won't be talking again if
I keep doing things for free.
Right.
Hey, I just, I just want, you
know, I just want you to do it
at your cost, like, yeah, you
know, yeah.
Me too.
Right.
I would, I would love to just,
you know.
It bothers me when my wife's
friends find out I you know,
that I sell cigars and if I show
up and I don't have cigars to
give them.
Right.
Like we still pay for those,
right?
Like what do you do?
Sell cars?
Did you bring me a car?
Right.
Oh, where's my new Hyundai?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, I can't do that.
I'm in beer distributing.
Oh, we got free liquor around
here.
Somewhere like no oh, huh.
Or like the free the free swag.
Shit drives me nuts, you know,
like, you know, I really want
the hat.
Like OK.
Here's the link.
Yeah, like I got news for you.
If I gave you the hat for free,
that means I baked the cost of
the hat into the cigars.
Right, I was gonna say, 'cause
then we have to raise prices of
cigars.
They all want a hat.
Right, that's how that.
Works just bought cigars.
Yeah, I know, but the hat wasn't
included in the cigar, right?
So like when we can add on?
Like we're working on a
promotion for PCA, right?
And it's not going to be cheap
and we're going to take it.
We're going to absorb that cost,
right?
For a commitment for
appointments, right?
And then what happens, just like
last year, people are going to
come and say, hey, I want that
right?
Like, OK, well, we sent a
fucking e-mail.
We sent text messages.
We smoke signals Facebook like
we told you we.
Called you and asked you to make
an.
Appointment In order to get this
we would we are looking to for a
portion of your time at this
show.
We even sent Greg.
Like that's, that's what the
trade is.
The trade is you will sit down
with us, right?
We will talk to you and because
of that we were going to show
you that we appreciate your
commitment and here is this
right?
Yeah, it's like like a
timeshare, like you have to sit
through the appointment.
Right, you got to sit for the
appointment.
Sit through the appointment to
get the drink right.
You're going to get the $25.00
gift card right And the and the
weekend stay at the hotel.
Right.
But we're going to hardcore sell
this like because this is a
serious appointment.
We're going to talk to you about
our products and why we believe
it's the best, right, Right.
Or we could charge you all $100
and we could all smoke, you
know, honey bees.
Pay $100 and we'll all just sit
here and smoke cigars, right?
I might.
I'm hoping for.
I'm going for my Prejean sample.
Are you you going to go get
them?
From Hey man or a lot of things
you beat us in half wheel, but
we beat you in half wheel, so
there you go.
So you want to.
Get any samples.
Can I have a you?
Have to walk in with the point.
079 can I have Can I have cigar?
Let's walk together this time to
get this.
We can't both can't leave the
booth at the same time.
You know this.
No, I'm saying this what you say
to him.
Oh, Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, I looked at the
new plate.
We're not in the same place we
were last year.
No different place.
We're on the way to food court.
Perfect.
Oh, we're further left.
We're way left like I mean, I
don't have to worry about being
fed.
I can order out the back of our.
Booth Oh God, that's they're
going to have to come to us.
They're going to have to well.
Last time everybody had to go to
the bathroom.
So that that worked, Yeah.
Oh, you got to pee.
Hey.
Hey, how you doing?
Now, I guess when they go eat,
hey, come back when you get
there.
I'm going to go eat.
We'll come back when you're
done.
Bring me a pretzel.
I'll meet you at the table.
Bring me a pen.
I'll join.
You, I'll join.
You I'll join that.
And in front of us this year is
Merryfell.
Oh, really?
Not not Merryfell.
Oh, wait a minute.
It said Merryl.
What's the other M1?
It might have said Merryfell.
And I was thinking it was the
the blue, black red cigar.
Dear God, no.
No, the guy, the blue, black,
red one.
Yeah, they have colors, clearly.
Aventura.
I know what he's talking.
I know what you're talking
about, but I'm not going to say
the name.
Help me.
Yeah.
The guy with the video who
doesn't know?
The pylon guy, Yeah.
The pylon guy, Yeah.
Who is it?
Oh, that makes sense.
The Blackbird.
I can't remember, but you know
what I might say?
No, there's they don't have.
Maryville didn't have a booth,
do they?
I don't know, this is fun.
Don't use your phone.
Wait, no, I have the picture.
Starts with AM.
Yeah, it does start with an M
that's why.
What's the second letter?
I if I knew that I would find
it.
Am I?
Mike Palmer?
Nope, I have my own booth. 3rd
letter.
Just say it for God's sake.
This is Potato Head, Shawshank
Redemption, Shawshank Chicago.
Yelling stuff I don't know.
You're out of here.
Some people will get that
reference right, I promise you.
OK, It's.
What is Maryfell?
Maryfell's in front of us.
Maryfell is in front of us,
Yeah.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah.
We're this way.
They're right here.
Yeah, it's great.
So they're going to have like
the nicely dressed guys right
there and then us.
And I feel stupid because I know
someone who works for that other
company.
And I said, oh, hey, look, we're
going to be neighbors.
And they go, oh, where's my
booth?
And I'm thinking, I just sent
you the map.
Wow, that makes sense.
You're like idiot.
I'm an idiot, you moron.
I just showed you where it is.
He's like, I didn't say the.
Head of it.
I know you write me the food
court too.
That makes sense.
Dude, that's Mccauliff.
But.
Mccauliff, There you go.
The red and blue.
The red and blue and black and
wow.
And I don't know, it's
distributed by Garofalo.
Come on man.
Wow.
Pretend like you're in this
industry for five goddamn
seconds.
You could have just said like.
Merrillville, right?
You could have just said like
Mickey Pegg's old buddy other.
Brands names, what boots you?
Could have just said Mickey,
Pegg's old buddy.
He'll be like, oh Mickey.
Pegg just posted on Facebook.
He's back.
Is he hiking?
Something about the world being
crazy, I guess he came back and
now he thinks we're all crazy.
I'm leaving for the Appalachian.
Trail.
Was he on like a what's that
called the Hiawasca tour or
something?
He went and walked the.
The trail he walked to earth
like Kane and Kung Fu.
Yes.
Yeah.
The Oregon Trail.
Yes, the Oregon Trail, Yeah.
He went W he did the Oregon
Trail.
Yeah, yeah.
Stay away from the rattlesnakes.
All right.
Maryland premium cigar lounge
license bill reintroduced with
changes.
Uh oh.
Maryland lawmakers are pushing
to get new cigar lounge licenses
with big trade-offs.
New bills in Maryland would
create a Class C premium cigar
lounge license, finally giving
lounges clear legal grounds to
allow BYOB alcohol consumption.
Oh, so I thought it was you can
get more.
They would opening more lounges.
That's a different state.
They just want to be able to
drink.
Smoking's allowed, but only if
tobacco is the real business.
Lounges would need to make at
least 70% of revenue from
premium cigars and accessories
and keep other product sales
under 30%.
I love that, sure.
I love that.
You know, it's, it's, I think
that that's arguably a step in
the right direction, giving the
opportunities to open up more
cigar lounges, right?
Yeah, you just have to do this
one thing.
We need that.
We need like these, these states
that have shut this down, they
we need it.
We need it as a society.
We need it as men.
You know what I mean?
Like you need a place to go that
isn't going to, that isn't going
to.
Chastise us.
It isn't going to be terrible
for you.
You know what I mean?
Like you, like, you can't go to
a bar and get absolutely
obliterated.
And you know, like that's not
good for anybody.
Well, you can, but usually
there's a cop sitting outside.
It ends bad.
Usually around 12:00.
Like they're just waiting now,
but you.
Still need to be social.
You need to interact with
people.
Yeah, right.
Like there's too much of of the
opposite of that going on.
Anti socialism.
Yeah, well, you know, you can't
use the Internet, social media
as your form of being social.
It doesn't work.
Yeah.
You know I agree.
You can say whatever you want,
there's no consequences.
Yeah, and I as.
Long as it's within a specific
guidelines of the.
Platform.
There still could be
consequences.
No, but you could say something
hurtful to a person and realize
that that person cannot punch
you at that current time, right?
Right.
OK, right.
They could still punch you, but
I mean, if you did it on
Facebook, they couldn't punch.
You Yeah, right, right My point
is people say negative stuff on
YouTube I.
Would get punched all the time.
People say negative, negative
stuff on YouTube about us,
right?
Or about whatever, whatever
their platform is.
And like you have to prepare
yourself for that because it's
coming and they have no problem
saying it.
And it could not be.
It might not be based about you
at all.
They could have just had a shit
day.
They saw your post and like you
know what I need.
To say something angry, I.
Don't like pizza rolls?
So it's like, OK, you know, we
have.
Pizza rolls at home we eat nose
are there OK so I just.
Yeah, you know, I.
They hit.
Go ahead.
I hope someone comments about
your pizza rolls and your lack
of commitment to my
conversation.
Go ahead.
But I think it's yeah.
I came up here last night to
watch the Magic game because
Kevin Nabic wanted to to smoke
cigars together.
It was too cold outside, so I
said yeah, let's go with the
hustler, you know, put the game
on the thing and all.
I put it in the group and a
whole bunch of people came up.
We all had great conversation.
You know, there was other people
already here.
Great conversation.
You know, we talked with Keanu.
Great conversation.
Super important.
Yeah, it's what it's, it's nice
to be able to have that while
you're smoking cigars or just
have that as an adult, period.
Right, Right.
Because we deal with kids all
day, all day long.
You need social interaction,
right?
That's what this podcast is for
me.
Just social interaction with
you.
Guys.
Oh, is that all it is?
That's.
All it is so if we didn't have
this, you wouldn't talk to us
anymore.
We're just talking.
Well, it's actually a commitment
to be social.
Oh, right.
Otherwise I'm yelling at
children that are coaching.
You're like, oh God, last
yesterday's practice didn't get
me started.
I know.
But like, this is important.
I look forward to this because I
enjoy our conversations.
Yeah, I do too.
Right, OK.
All right, they've issued strict
limits on where and how many
lounges can exist.
There's no license near a
healthcare childcare facilities
counties are cat at well I know.
Yeah, that's stupid.
Everything's got, you know.
Yeah, but that's like like no
healthcare.
Like what?
What?
No, not near a healthcare.
Facility right?
Dude, I want you to know A.
Lot of smoke.
Coming out, if there's a lung
cancer institution and a cigar
store decides to open up right
next to it, I have no problem
with that.
Well, this is ridiculous.
Well, normally like those are in
medical centers.
I've actually gone to I've gone
to a store with a lung cancer
place across the street.
Really.
Yeah.
Oh, well, that's probably more
like down South.
Nope.
Really.
You'd be surprised the
retailer's listening.
He can chime in.
One lounge per 150,000
residents, meaning many counties
could only ever have one legal
cigar lounge.
OK, now that's go for a fetch.
I mean county.
How many counties are in
Maryland?
Well, I mean realistically, OK,
so like let's break that down.
150,000 people in the
population, realistically 3% of
them would be cigar smokers.
What's are you doing that math?
Are you texting that?
No, yeah, I'm seeing how many
counties are in Maryland.
Gotcha.
OK, you see that and I'm going
to break this down. 150 K 00.
God. 23.
So that's realistically 4500
people say half of those people
buy online.
So it's 2250.
Divide that by 365.
If they only came in, if
everybody only came in once a
year, that's six transactions a
year.
Now, obviously you're going to
have some that that will come in
more than one time a year, but
there are only there are a
couple of handful of people that
only smoke one or two cigars a
year anyways, right, right.
So realistically, you know,
what's the transaction number
that you need to have per day
with an average of 50 to 60
bucks per in order to be
sustainable?
Depending upon the place, it's
maybe it's like 20 or 30.
So like OK with 150,000 people
one location?
Well, remember, your sales have
to be, they can be only 70
percent. 30% have to be
something else.
No, it has to at least.
Has to minimum to be 70%.
Oh OK so you know, OK so a place
where there's 150,000 people it
might only be able to sustain 1
store is kind of my point.
Got you.
You know, that's where I assumed
you were going with that.
Yeah, Yeah.
If you have two or three in
there, it's.
Just split too far.
It could be.
It's possible to be and, and,
and it could go the wrong way
like 'cause some of these
retailers are crazy, like, oh,
oh, how much you pay for that
5450, right?
And then they start racing your
way to the bottom instead of
trying to take care of your
customer, which is the opposite
of.
There is 568,000 people in
Baltimore.
OK.
Well.
Those places already have
established lounges.
Well, what it's saying is if
it's saying only one per county,
you're only allowed to have 23
cigar places in the whole state
of Maryland 'cause there's only
23 counties.
OK, OK, there's 23 counties, but
more than them have than 150,000
people.
No, it didn't say per county.
It said because of that number
there are a lot of counties that
would only be able to have one
legal cigar lounge.
Not that that they can only have
right?
So if there's more than 150,000
people in a county, they can
have two if it's double.
Or 600,000?
Let's do the math.
If there's 600,000 people in a
county, how many new lounges
could they have boots fill?
4.
There you go.
Good job.
Hey, the drop of the price of
the license, it was $2000 to
$100.
OK, that's good too.
Wow.
That's a great drop.
But there's no grandfathering in
anymore.
It's not like I've already got
1.
Nope, you have to buy the new
one.
You got to pay the 100 bucks.
You got to pay the 100.
Bucks.
OK, I pay 100 bucks whatever.
Yeah, 100 bucks.
What they do, yeah.
All right, Avowed New Dawn, the
Corona Gorda is shipping next
week.
OK.
Nuvatola drops Friday the 13th.
Vowed Cigars is expanding its
new Dawn lineup with a Corona
Gorda 6 by 46.
The smallest Ring Gauge line is
a nod to classic Flavor Focus
smokers.
That's probably going to be the
next new brand that we take on
in the store.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's tied with the Small Bats
guys, Yeah.
It's a small batch guys.
Yeah, got a lot of respect for
them.
You know, Andrew's a friend.
Ben Cole answers the phone half
the time, but he's nice.
But you know, I really do like
Andrew and I like Small Batch
and, you know.
What?
Where's their cigars, man?
The Dominican.
And Dominican.
Yeah, so you're going to hate
them until you love them.
They have tweets to blend a
little for the Corona Gorda.
Yeah, well, you have to do.
You have to because of the
science.
Yeah, yeah, you got to modify
it.
Yeah, it can only take so many
fillers and stuff and.
Well, right.
But when they said tweak, I
assumed like they have changed
it not like scaled it down.
Well, we never put out in our
press release that we have
changed the blend because it's a
different.
Size, I mean the blend is a
little bit different when you
change the size, right?
So like if it was a 6 by 52 and
you went 5 1/2 by 46 or 5 1/2 by
48, you you're going to remove
specific leaves, maybe add more
to offset it or whatever the
case may be.
Yeah, you're not going to be
very specific on percentages.
Yeah.
So realistically, yeah, you
always tweak it unless they went
specifically into something and
said.
The Peloto Cubano comes from a
different priming now.
Which would make sense 'cause
it's a smaller gauge, right?
So it's probably a lower priming
as far as like it's probably
thinner, probably thinning
thinner.
How many cigars do they have?
Different cigars, not facings I.
Don't know like I've I've like I
keep dabbling, I keep saying
hey, we're going to do this and
then he has told me that they're
coming out with a new one and
that we should probably focus
around that time.
I.
Think we've tried three
different ones, yeah.
Was that the was it voyage one
by Val?
No, a voyage.
I'm sorry I'm I'm way off not.
The voyage you only have to.
Have no we talked about Val
before though.
I thought we smoked one.
From Val we probably have.
I really, I think one of them
had a green bin.
I really liked the green one.
I remember smoking a lot of
those.
Yeah, so.
They're $15 per per cigar, 15
count boxes.
New release keeps new down
firmly in the boutique high end
category. 15 do you would you
consider 15 in the high end
category?
Boutique for Corona Gorda?
Nah, not really.
I don't think so.
It's about average.
It's a little high, but it's not
like whoa, right.
You know, it's not, it's not
like it's 20 bucks or something.
Yeah, because Pedrone has Corona
Gorda, right?
No, they have a pennatella and
a.
Would you consider Pajama
Boutique?
I guess not.
I guess some more legacy, right?
Yeah.
It's more ultra.
Premium.
Not just premium.
Ultra well maybe.
Foundation probably has the most
expensive Corona Gorda.
You think so?
Is the the Olmec?
Isn't there Corona, Gorda and
the Olmec?
I think your boy sans per eye
has the fucking.
It was expensive.
Yep.
Yeah, I guess that is a.
Boutique.
Yeah, by a long shot, dude.
All right, Panga cigars.
Is is panga.
This is Panga PANGE.
A panga, OK.
Panga Cigars releases their
debut lines.
Wait, spell it again.
PANG.
EA we did this before Palmer.
It's Pangea.
Oh, that makes more sense.
Panga.
I like Panga though.
The country, remember, they're
all together when it's one big
gigantic country, the one big
gigantic landmass.
I don't know.
The new boutique brand enters
with two distinct blends.
Panga Panga cigars debuted with
blend #8 and blend #12.
Oh, which country's 12?
Both built around Nicaraguan
binder and filler.
Isn't this the three ladies
gotten together?
Is it?
Yeah.
Is it really?
Yeah.
I thought that was API
something.
Is it it's a bad time to drop
AP?
Use a cigar then if it's a
different.
One.
Nope, you're right.
Founders Elvis, Lewis and Anna,
whatever that last name is.
Yeah, and they're working with.
India Ortez, Indiana.
Ortez, Indiana.
Yeah, of Cassa de Ortez.
We need to marry Tyler Jones.
Yes.
Oh, Indiana Jones.
So then she could become Indiana
Jones.
Yeah.
I got you that.
'D be good.
So they're tubed toros, Both
blends come.
Why didn't they just talk about
this the other day when they
mentioned they were doing it?
Well, it's breaking news.
Because it's smart marketing.
That's why they just initiate.
They did.
They announced the the beginning
of the company and now they have
announced the cigars and we've
talked about it twice within a
seven day span.
Yeah.
You want to be in the news every
day.
Yeah, that's smart.
I.
Would have spaced it a little
more anyway.
They're selling direct to
consumer, no retail, no retail,
selling exclusively through its
website, keeping full control
over branding and presentation
with no current plans for retail
distribution.
Plus A2 cigar sampler for 50
dollars. 200 smokers to both
blends. $50. $50.00 for two.
What's that?
Make those cigars for Phil. 25.
There you go.
What's the size of those?
They're toros and a tube tubo.
Toros 6 by 50 Toro.
OK.
So you think direct to consumer
is the right way?
Because like we have this
argument with Carney.
Yeah, all the time, I know.
I don't think so.
I don't think so either.
Me neither.
Like how do you get out to cigar
smokers other than this?
Yeah, you need both, I think you
know.
You're just sitting there
waiting on the bell to go off
go.
We got an order.
Ding.
Unless you have like a a like a
some type of notoriety where
you're you already have a
consumer base that might not be
a cigar smoker, then you can go
direct.
Yeah, like you're.
Still, you're still putting a
hindrance on things.
Like padrone could go direct.
They might be kind of direct,
but they're both, I don't know
if they're direct or not, but if
they are, you know, they still
sell to retailers.
They're not only direct, but I'm
saying.
These guys are only, they have
the customer base right where
they could just go to direct and
be OK.
No, but I think that would hurt
their numbers.
Oh yeah, I think it would hurt
anybody because again, you're
only in one playing field.
Yeah, right.
Not in both.
So, Pango, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's a good idea.
I know.
And they're brand new, so it's
going to be difficult.
That's the hard part, is brand
new.
I mean, how do you tell people
about your cigars other than
putting out a press release
every seven days?
Yeah.
And this is an industry press
release.
It's not, you know.
How much does it really save?
How much money does it save?
Yeah, by not going to retailers.
I mean, I don't think that's the
right question.
The question is, do you how many
consumers do you really reach?
That's what I'm saying.
If you ask the average Joe in
the street, hey, have you tried
the Pangea cigar?
He's going to what?
Right, I mean, I think that
there's to me, to me personally,
there's nothing better than
doing an event at a store and
meeting a customer who was just
became a fan of of of the cigar
from the store who was just
excited to meet me or you,
right, is excited to meet us.
And that's because the retailer
did their job.
They introduced the product to
the consumer and the consumer
said, this is fantastic.
And they said, hey, they're
coming to town.
Like that's awesome, right?
Kind of missing out on that
opportunity, you know?
Yeah, how are they going to do
an event anywhere, right?
Weren't they in the liquor
business or something before?
Maybe one of them was.
Maybe they got a connection at a
bar or something where they can
pass out cigars at a bar.
Or something.
One bar.
One bar All right, now it's time
for the industry's favorite
game.
Yeah, we're at an hour.
What's the score?
Yeah, no.
Running out of time.
All right.
July 3rd, 2025.
Patrick Lagreed, Cigars,
Honduras.
Oscar Valadari's Tobacco and
Company Reviews Island, Jim.
Jim Barber, pole #2.
Oh, number two, that's a good
one.
Patrick, you go first.
I'm going to say let's go 89.
Something tells me this one's
going to do well.
This guy's shaggy foot I'm.
Going to give it 90.
All right, Island gym Barber
pole #2 from Honduras at the
Oscar Valadares Tobacco Company.
The rapper is Honduras,
Connecticut Seed and Creoho
binders undisclosed.
Filler undisclosed.
It's a 6 by 52 round, $13.
They smoked 3 cigars.
This is and this is an older
one, right?
This is a.
Yes, I gave you the.
I just saw the days it was by.
2.
Of last year O20. 20. 525 This
is the second Barber pole.
Water pole #2.
Yeah, I'm going to say 89. 90.
Sorry, the Barber pole
construction is beautiful and
well executed.
Firm roll, smooth draw, mostly
even burn, and a great smoke
production throughout the cigar.
89. 90.
The flavor profile is creamy and
approachable with enjoyable
notes of cereal grains, light
sweetness, doughnuts, honey, and
a steady pop of pepper that
keeps things occasionally.
Well, all right.
How do you feel about them?
The.
Pop of pepper, pop and pepper.
You know what?
I'm going to go to 91.
It's a good move.
It took you one too many to get
there.
In my personal opinion.
I'm going to stay at 90.
Wow, pleasant.
The cigar doesn't devolve much.
The core cereal and cream
profile stays fairly consistent,
making the second-half feel tame
and less memorable.
Phil.
We go back down to 89.
I must stay at 90.
Final thought, The Island Gym
Barber pole #2 delivers a
perfectly enjoyable smoking
experience, though 1 I feel
pretty confident that I won't
have much memory of by this time
next week.
The flavors are pretty tame and
agreeable, just not particularly
memorable.
I felt that every puff was
pretty much the same combination
of bread, cereal, and pepper,
with some creaminess added in
for a bit variation in the
second third.
The construction is good, though
combustion in the second-half is
has its challenges, which I'm a
bit surprised by giving the
uncapped head, but at the same
time it seems to be fairly
common in cigars these days.
I certainly enjoy the Island Gym
Barber pole #2 and I think it
would be a cigar that a good
number of cigar smokers would
enjoy.
But if you're looking for a
dynamic range of flavors and
layers of complexity, this cigar
doesn't seem up to delivering on
that request.
I don't know why, but I feel
like he's talking good about it.
I'm gonna go 87.
It's a bold move.
I I don't know, that number is
just like sitting in front of me
for some reason.
Yeah, I'm with like on your on
your phone, No.
Right here on the screen I was
on. 88 you.
Went the wrong way.
Yes, 86 See, I I figured like he
was going to go loan it because
it, it was boring.
It was just cereal that he was
eating.
He was here.
He did.
Over breakfast, Yeah.
All right, so you already been
at Island Gym?
Because that's when those.
Yeah.
It was a great event.
It went well.
Everybody had a great time.
Honeybee did not show up.
Are you going to smoke a #2?
I don't know, Jim always gives
me something, so maybe there
you.
Go OK, and then where else you
going to be?
I will be at Northport Cigars on
the 25th of February at, I
believe it, at 1:00.
All right, like one to four or
something all.
Right.
Thanks everybody for watching.
Appreciate.
You, we got to go bye.
Bye.
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