ACHP Episode 467 Cigar Guys, Brittany and The Yellow Thrush
Transcript
Welcome to a cigar hustler
podcast.
I got to get the guys switch the
other hands, all the problems.
Oh God.
Welcome to Cigars on podcast
episode 467.
You guys change the speed of my
remote.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host with
me today.
As always, it's Phil.
I awkwardly had to engineer the
Mikey and Preston Love Show
yesterday.
Mcguffey.
Super awkward.
Super.
I see.
I told you it's weird, isn't?
It Yeah, they were.
It was weird.
The hand thing was weird.
And then as my coach today from
the number one rated cigar
podcast, they claim the cigar
guys, Alex Gonzalez.
It's true.
Thanks for having me guys.
Thanks Alex.
Appreciate you breaking away
from the number one show to we
gotta.
Help the little people who are
out, you know.
We we appreciate you bringing
your greatness to our show to
help us in the ratings.
It's very nice of you.
Of course, whatever you need,
just let me know.
I'm always here to help.
Phil's very upset though that
you guys claim to be the number
one show.
Listen, it's not my fault.
Well, it is my fault.
So basically what happened was
we just did a really, really
good job for the last three
years, and I woke up one day and
found out that we are #1 ranking
on Spotify and Apple.
Now there's a special search you
do 'cause you showed it to me to
verify, but what is the the
right?
There was a wording you use.
So the concept that I discovered
it from is essentially when you
look up different cigar related
keywords, right, it shows up
number one in the majority of
them, right.
So you can use that
mathematically to deduct that we
would be considered the number
one ranking cigar show on those
two platforms, right?
And there's no official ranking
because they don't have, you
know, cigar.
Podcasts, yeah, no, they don't.
Like you have comedy?
You have no one ranking comedy,
right?
Leisure, whatever, right?
So we have to make our own.
They don't specifically make our
niche.
They don't, no 'cause they hate
us.
Right, exactly, Feedspot does.
Have you looked on Feedspot?
They do a cigar ranking.
They do, yeah.
And I actually talked to them
about it.
I was like, so how does this
ranking work 'cause I'm pretty
sure it's mostly pay to play
because you pay.
We were #2 at one point.
I remember this.
So I don't know how they do
their rankings right, but their
business model is you can pay
them to rank higher, right?
So if you pay them 20 bucks a
month or something, you're in
like spot #6 or 8 or whatever.
So that list is pay to play.
I don't know how they rank it
outside of that because I know
like not all of these podcasts
are paying them.
Some of them don't even even
exist anymore.
Right.
So like, how about that cigar
show?
Rest in Peace is still on there.
Oh.
Rest in peace, look at you.
Right.
You know, so they're still on
there.
So I mean, I don't know how they
curate that list but.
How often do you check the
rankings?
The last month I check it like
once a week maybe.
Do you?
Yeah, I used to do that too.
Wait till you get older and you
don't care anymore.
Yeah.
Exactly.
You get, you get the I.
Don't care for the first three
years and now I care.
Oh, because you find out you're
doing good?
Exactly.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, we found out we're doing
good.
And they're like, OK, fine, I'm
not looking anymore.
I guess we'll do this.
Yeah, I guess we'll keep going
for eight years.
But when you find out that you
still get no more money, Danny
don't care anymore.
That's just it.
Well, they do sponsorship on
that show.
True.
Are you looking for two new
guys?
We're not Albanian but we are
willing to change though.
Are you willing to work?
We're really work.
Work.
Yeah.
What?
Do you do look at this?
There you go.
You know they're.
Tired.
Well, he he's good at the
buttons, really good at the
buttons.
I'm good at pressing.
I'm the one that does the
buttons, so it'd be nice to have
someone else do.
It yeah, that that was the first
thing I gave up was the buttons.
Yeah, that was a struggle for
him in the beginning, but then
he was like, this is nice.
Yeah, until they found other
things for me to do.
Then I don't push the buttons
right.
Do you miss being a button
pusher?
No, but I do.
The only part of the mic
impression show I enjoy is,
well, there's two things.
One, I don't have to talk, and
two, you push the buttons.
But I get bored and I forget to
push the buttons sometimes, so
there might be a long segment of
somebody not talking.
Yeah, that's what happens on our
show.
If someone's sitting off camera
doing it right, I like look over
and I'm like, they're on their
phone right now, right?
I mean, you know, there's only
so much sports I can handle when
they're talking.
So, all right, on today's show,
Elon Musk has returned.
Oh, has returned Mars, and now
he wants to buy the moon.
Britney Spears is in the money.
Netflix has its own flight
attendants.
Do you guys know that They have
their own flight attendants and
they're looking to hire a new
one?
And then in Chihuahua, Mexico,
birds are dying to get into
Chihuahua for some reason.
Chihuahua.
Chihuahua, the dog and then in.
Yeah, but I spelled it CHIWAWA
because I couldn't spell
Chihuahua.
Close enough.
Close enough.
It's phonetics.
And then in cigars, Opus is
making it Rain Purple Espanola
Anniversario cigars having its
own PCA apparently, and there's
no more Tutti Frutti cigars in
Illinois.
And then finally we have a
what's the score?
You familiar with that?
What's the score game?
OK, you get it.
For this you need to play.
Everybody loves to play.
What's the score?
Yeah, but before we get started,
Zero Phil, how do we get some of
that chapter pod swag?
Well, what you want to do is,
man, I forget Palmer.
Tom, what are you going to?
Do go to chapterpod.com.
Even I knew that.
Ben has posted a picture of his
very own beanie.
What is that one that he got
from us, or one that he?
No, no, no.
That he has the one and only.
Well, I guess you have one too,
but he has the only technically
official beanie from Chapter pod
production.
Oh, look at him.
Up there in the Great North, he
said his head was warm while he
was smoking, so it must must do
a great job.
One of one.
Please like and subscribe on
whichever of our formats you
watched it or listen to the show
in.
And then if you what is it, you
buy one.
If you buy 2 shirts, one's 40%
off, you spend over $100, you
get free shipping.
I believe that's how he says it.
If I'm wrong, you can't hold me
to it.
Should we release a new shirt
today since Mikey isn't here?
The well you tell the.
I almost just ordered some SO.
Did you first?
Oh, tell them what shirt we want
them to make, Phil.
Is it the I heart Preston?
Yes, yes, yeah.
It's what's is it?
Whatever his initials are, it's
I heart Preston's initials.
With a picture of Preston with a
heart around.
Yes, Sort of off.
A little off center.
Yeah.
I don't want that one.
Sucks.
You don't want that one.
Good Valentine's Day promo.
But if Mikey will buy all of
them himself, that might be the
only problem.
Can't let these get out.
Can't let these get out.
This is mine now.
I'm already sliding in the
chair.
Yeah.
All right, moving on now with
the news, Elon Musk has switched
his focus from Mars to the moon.
So guys, he's decided Mars is
too far and he's going to he's
going to take too long to to get
there.
So now he is devoting all his
money and power to colonizing
the moon.
Super expensive.
Well, the moon apparently is
very cheap.
Oh so.
What about this?
What if he knows something we
don't know?
What if we're running out of
time and because it takes too
far to get to Mars, we have to
go to the moon?
Could be, which is a big problem
because the moon is much
smaller.
So that means that holds less.
Might not even make it holds
less people.
Yeah, holds less people.
It was inhabitable.
Because it can't be like he
didn't know about the moon.
He went like outside last week
and go, what the hell is that?
You know, I should go there.
Look how close it.
Is that's the moon, you know?
I don't have that in my country,
but yeah, what if Alex is right?
What if we're running out of
time?
He would know.
This is one of those many
mysteries in life we're never
gonna know.
I mean, the only thing we have
closest to it telling us that
we're running out of time is
Terminator.
Yeah.
Or it could be that we're in a
closed system and the moon is
inside the closed system.
This guys going the.
Place we can go to.
He's going Pauly Shore.
I'm.
Just throwing it all out there
because.
You're throwing all these
things.
Yeah.
Wow, all these conspiracy
theories.
Palmer, you're gonna put him in
a room and he's gonna have to
put his jacket on so he doesn't
freak out now.
Straight jacket.
Yeah, the the the one with the
wrap around sleeves.
Yeah, we don't call a straight
jacket tomorrow.
Very.
Flattery that very trendy jacket
the.
Self hugging jacket.
So do you guys think we actually
went to the moon then?
No, Yeah, I don't think so.
You don't think so?
Yeah, I don't think so.
Now there's things on the moon,
they say, that you can aim like
a laser ad and hit and it
bounces back.
Have you done it though?
Well, no, I don't have a laser.
I know it's like a single person
that's actually done.
It well, they did it on The Big
Bang Theory TV show.
So on.
The TV show.
Fictional TV show they're.
The fictional scientists, yes,
they did it fictionally.
I've met.
I've met Buzz Aldrin.
What does that mean?
Even he'll tell you we didn't go
to the moon.
Yeah.
Does he really say we didn't go?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
There's like a buzz, Aldrin
says.
We didn't go to the moon and
there's like at least three.
There are a lot of things that
aren't correct if you look it
up.
I just don't understand like one
why we would go to the moon and
#2.
Beat the Russians.
That was the original reason.
Yeah, and #2.
We must be first.
At that time, like technology
definitely wasn't advanced
enough, I think, to really make
it there.
I mean, well, yeah, the argument
is that obviously the government
will have more advanced
technology than we will for,
yeah, decades.
But I don't think I I think that
the reason I don't believe it is
because there's been too many
inconsistencies from that time
until now.
So it's like, OK, if there's
this many inconsistencies and
like, you know, glitches, so to
say it's like, come on.
It's it's like not concerning I
guess, but it's that's what
makes me think it didn't
actually happen.
Maybe the real story is Alien VS
Predator.
Maybe when they got to the moon
they saw those two guys.
I saw that movie too.
Yeah, and they were like, you
know what?
We can't tell anybody about
this, but it could be a
fictional movie.
Yeah, or not the dark side of
the moon type thing.
Yeah, there's like monsters
there.
Yeah, yeah, that's another one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know those things That's.
Where they all hide.
Butch doesn't like the dark side
because he's a racist.
Wow.
Phil Phil doesn't like talking
about the dark side of the.
Moon what a bolts name of that
one.
So.
He doesn't believe there is a
dark side, so when?
The full moon's out, he's in a
much better mood.
He's in a much better mood,
right?
There's dark patches on him.
He doesn't know what to.
Do.
No, that's not true.
What's your problem?
Yeah, well, that's not it.
He's a homophobic racist.
No, I'm not a racist.
Oh, he doesn't deny the other.
Part You're supposed to be the
racist, remember?
Good catch.
Yeah, that's right.
You're a homophobic racist.
I am not a racist.
Show's so much more fun when
Weggy's not here.
Well, man, I've, I don't.
I don't, yeah.
Yeah, we don't need to get into
it.
We don't get banned and.
This isn't Patreon.
Guy.
Yeah, he comes back and finds
out there's no show anymore.
Well, I've held.
Up what happened?
Nothing.
We don't have to do this
anymore.
We solved the problem of the
money.
All right, moving on, here we
go.
We'll get into something better.
Britney Spears is got a lot of
money again now, guys.
Oh, what's she doing?
She sold the rights to her
music.
Of course she did.
Just like Justin Bieber, Bieber
did it first.
So what this actually means is
she has sold her songs moving
forward.
So any money that her songs make
as of I guess she sold it
yesterday.
She doesn't make any money on
him anymore.
Royalties and radio play and all
that kind of stuff.
Well, her dad doesn't make any
money.
Yeah, that's probably more
likely.
Maybe that's why she did it
'cause she wasn't making any
starter.
But there's it's sold for
undisclosed amount, but Justin
Bieber sold his for $100
million.
You could take everything I see
on this show right now.
Right, exactly.
I'd make that deal, Yeah.
You know, a hundred, a $100
million against, up against
future earnings.
You do.
It for 100,000.
Yeah, yeah.
Just be real.
I do it for 100.
You can have all the Bing bong
you want.
All the Bing bong she sold her
ownership share in a music
catalog to a publisher at
Primary Wave that has multiple
outlets.
Oh multiple outlets reported
with TMZ first to break the
news.
How did TMZ now?
Because of the Samantha Guthrie
thing.
They are now the premier news
agency in the United States.
Very disappointing.
Everybody goes there first.
Now for everything.
I hate TMZ.
Man, I do too.
I'll be honest.
I mean, TMZ is always always
been kind of like a celebrity
news source, but I mean,
they're, I mean they're they're
pretty quick with this stuff.
Now, how accurate it is, I'm not
sure.
I.
Don't think they care.
They're like us, they don't Fact
Check.
Yeah.
We don't Fact Check either.
Dang, it's the only way to do
it.
If you Fact Check, there's a lot
of things you can't say.
The only thing we fact checked
was that we were ranking number
one.
Wow.
Because that thing actually
excited me.
But the TMZ, the problem is,
yeah, exactly.
They are a media company that is
focused on the ratings and.
Right, the sensationalism and
everything of the stories it.
Doesn't need to be accurate for
them to make money, right?
And they no one does redactions
anyway, so they're just like,
all right, who cares?
I'm sure at the end of the show
there's a a disclaimer that
runs, they go, nothing we say is
true, you can't listen to us and
we're all fucked up.
Yeah, it's it's it's
entertainment.
It's an entertainment show.
People that still watch it are
brain dead and only care about
celebrities which let's be
honest, who cares.
Well, you don't even have to
watch it anymore.
All the other news agencies
quote them.
Yeah.
It's like how half wheels like
the official news source of
cigars, right?
TMZ has become the official news
source.
That's the only of everything
that's right.
How did that happen?
That guy's got to be worth
billions now.
He could have bought her her
music.
Maybe.
That would have, Yeah, actually.
So how long has Britney Spears
been in the game?
Ever since I was 13 years old.
So like 40 years ago?
No, probably about 25 years ago.
Yeah, I mean, she started on the
Mickey Mouse Club, right?
And then where's she starting?
Originally I'm.
Almost like 7 years old.
So this is like you guys.
Right.
Yeah, we know.
We know you.
You don't even know who Britney
Spears is.
Probably.
Yeah, as soon as she got done
with Mickey Mouse Club, oops, I
did it again.
Here she comes, right?
She'll run around as 1/2 dressed
cheerleader.
Yeah, which was.
Great tales.
Now she just runs around naked.
Yeah, isn't that all the money?
Follow now her, her ex and her.
Does she even on Facebook?
They probably don't allow her on
Facebook.
So her ex and her Instagram is
basically naked with a finger on
a nipple.
That's really what her pictures
are anymore.
Yeah, that's Britney.
Britney was.
And I thank her for every single
one of.
Them Oh do you?
Yes, personally, I thank her.
That's how you know the career
is dying is when you have to
resort to only fans,
essentially.
She's not.
She's probably not on only fans.
Only fans content.
Oh.
I don't think she's actually
only fans, she just sold all her
music for $100 million or
something, so I heard.
So do you think she needed the
money or she just wanted to cash
out Well.
She's been doing it for so long.
I mean, at that point, why not?
Why not just sell it?
They get a big paycheck.
Yeah, get the money all at one
time way.
Too that her royalties aren't
going to really last forever.
Like your music eventually is
going to become less and less
popular.
Sure.
Like less streamed, so to say,
right?
Right.
That's the term we use now.
So I mean, make as much money as
you can.
Now, what's that face for?
He's because he's old.
I'm old.
You still thought I was like,
yeah, what?
That's right.
Still go on there.
And pay for the song I get.
Him.
Yeah, he buys C DS.
I have a jukebox in my house at
deep quarters.
Record comes down, his arm comes
over so I'm.
Sure.
Dad came to her and said,
listen, the best idea is to just
sell it for a big paycheck now
because the money's going to run
dry.
Thought she divorced herself,
for lack of better word for from
her father.
Well, she did have a court case.
Right, conservatorships.
What her dad had on her, Yeah.
Yes, but also, you know, Trump
wasn't on the Epstein Island, so
we can say anything we want now.
Right, that was cigar guys, just
by the way.
Yeah, don't.
Cancel listening.
Mr. President.
He watches our show.
He's a very big fan.
Huge.
Huge.
Huge.
So you're right.
I mean, if you cash out now for
100 million, if you waited and I
mean, I don't know, you hear
about how this money comes in
for these celebrities.
Sometimes it's a nickel,
sometimes it's a dollar.
Yeah, I have AI have a buddy
that's been in a whole bunch of
different movies, like the
American Pie movies, Jack
Reacher, like all those type of
movies.
You see the apple pie.
Was that his part in the movie?
No, he was.
He was the guy on the jet skis
in the American wedding,
remember?
They were like I remember.
There'd be jet skis.
I don't remember your friends
particularly.
Well, yeah, he was one of the
bully kids that I got on the
fight with and all that.
Oh, gotcha.
So he gets residuals, right?
And what's funny is on his
Instagram page now, what he has
done on his Reels is he's come
up with this thing of it's
called like Residual Thursday.
And he shows everybody his
residuals that he gets all the
time.
It's like 25 cents, $0.50 yeah,
you know, but it's like 100 and
some movies, right?
You know, so like every Thursday
it racks up to, you know, $75.
I'm like, well.
I.
Had a lot of money.
OK, so it's $0.25.
That was for one movie.
Right.
Yep, Yep.
So I'm like, man, I was like,
you know, it kind of sucks that
it's only $0.25 for one movie
or.
Something what's What's the
guy's name?
Who is the dad in Yellowstone?
Can't think of his name.
Kevin Costner.
Kevin Costner, I saw a clip of
him on a talk show and he, they
were talking about residual.
He goes.
So, you know, I brought this
last group of checks in.
So he's reading them.
And it's for like, Waterworld,
Bull Durham, I mean, movies,
movies that you know the names
of.
Yeah.
It added up to $9.
Yep, and then he goes.
They spent more on the envelopes
and the postage so that I could
get a total of $9.
Yep, Yep.
That's yeah, that's that's
exactly what my buddy Jesse
says.
He's like, I don't know why they
don't just direct deposit the
money.
Yeah.
Or say, you know, every time I
get a dollar, you can mail it to
me.
Yeah, you know, save it up,
right?
Maybe for accounting purposes.
Maybe they just have to get it
in and out.
We gotta get it in and out so we
don't pay taxes on it.
I wish we got residual money.
I mean, I'd take $0.25.
On this show.
Yeah, 10.
Yeah, right. 10 all right, so
let's move on here.
We got a little more information
about our making money, but who
cares all right dream job.
This is a dream job.
Netflix is willing to pay a
private flight attendant.
Guess how much this is actually
something that is posted that
they are trying to hire?
For 100 grand a year. 125.
$385,000.
I have to be female.
They're willing to pay $385,000
to a primary flight attendant,
I'm assuming female, but it
doesn't say 'cause they can't
say that I'm.
Going to apply.
Who wants to join the Dream Crew
on a super mid sized private jet
based out of San Jose, CA?
A Gulfstream G550.
Here's the catch.
How big is that Alex?
What the cigar guys?
How big is mid size?
It's bigger than ours.
Bigger than yours?
Yeah.
All right.
What are you going to say over
there, Phil?
Here's the catch.
It's going from San Jose, is
that you said?
It's in San Jose, CA.
It's going all over.
It's, well, it's.
Over.
That's where it's based out of.
No, no, it doesn't fly over.
It's going from San Jose to
Epstein Island.
But you get 300 and some odd
$1000.
I mean, you just have to be in
the club.
I don't know if the island's
still.
Yeah, I don't think the island
does it have.
I mean, I guess it has to have
an airport on it.
I saw a runway, I saw like a
TikTok reel of somebody that
like infiltrated.
Oh, I saw that.
Epstein's island.
Yeah, the guy's like running
between buildings trying not to
get caught.
Yeah.
Brave man, right?
Respect, right?
They didn't accomplish anything
but.
Right.
Yeah, I.
Mean we all we all watched the
video so.
It was almost like a Ding Dong
ditch.
Yeah, yeah, all right.
Touched it.
I hope you at least made some
money off that video or
something.
I'm.
Sure, according to the job
description you have to be
discreet flight attendant.
Oh, let's see, here it comes.
Be able to demonstrate a
professional representation of
Netflix aviation operate with
little direction and a lot of
self motivation, and then they
be able to endure a varied work
schedule including domestic and
international travel and holiday
work days and extended travel
period.
And not objectionable to
anything we say.
Let's say discreet seems the
part that scares a little bit
age.
Requirement on there?
No.
Oh my.
God yes, 30 to 35. 3035 Blonde
EE.
Super specific.
Super specific blue eyes 1 foot
bigger than the other.
Hopefully you have a Facebook
picture with your finger over
your boobies.
Britney Spears.
Britney Spears.
Britney Spears like photo Yeah,
Britney's going to apply for
this next she's.
Probably going to make more
money than her music is now,
right?
So apparently Netflix has 30
offices around the world,
including in London, Madrid and
Tokyo and the minimum pay for
the job is 60,000 and the most
is 385.
So I guess if you know, if
you're like a 5, they're.
Going to give me 60,000 and
they're going to give Brittany
3. 100 you get 385.
Right, yeah, you know how this
works, right?
You know, I I mean, I don't
know, I haven't applied for a
job in a long time.
But how it works is when you go
to the job and they have that
big old range, they're like, oh,
you don't have enough
experience, so 60,000.
My experience of the meeting
your discretion is a little bit
questionable.
Yeah, nobody's getting the 307.
1000 My mouth is too big.
Right.
Discretion is iffy.
You know what?
We like you 65 I.
Didn't really say it's so many
offices.
Why they need all those offices
for?
I don't know, everything's
digital.
Right.
It's a great question.
Why do they need 30 offices
around the world?
Maybe it's the new instead of
Epstein island, it's Epstein
Office.
Netflix.
Yeah, I mean Netflix.
Is Netflix and chill means
something completely different
now?
Netflix is very controversial in
what they put out for just the
kids shows alone.
Oh do they?
I don't watch any of the kids
stuff.
Well, I hope not, but there's a
statistic where.
I mean, I don't, I don't like I
have a deal.
I don't like movies with talking
animals or cartoons.
I don't watch those anymore,
really.
That's why I told my kids as
they were growing up like you're
going to have to get your
mother's to take you because
daddy doesn't do talking animals
anymore.
What about talking vegetables?
No.
Wait, wait, wait.
You don't do talking animals?
Why did Mr. Ed ruin it for you?
Yes, ever since then I found out
it was not real.
I can't watch it anymore.
Oh God.
Wilbur see Mr. Ed was a black
and white show Alex back in the
50s.
Thank you for filling me in
where a horse would just flop
his gums and they would they
would have some guy off set just
talking.
They couldn't even dub it
because they didn't have the
technology.
Well, he wasn't really offset.
You could see him in the camera.
Oh, wait.
One second, you can say you were
alive in the 50s.
Oh, yeah, no, but I was born in
the 60s.
So they were still playing.
No, Yeah, no.
Back when TV was only in black
and white.
How were their residuals at that
time?
They were a lot better.
Dead horse is a millionaire
today.
It's still alive.
He sold the rights to his YEAH
in advance too, so he's got tons
of money.
Yep, they turn him.
Into glue.
I mean I know there's there is a
Netflix for each country and
they only play movies from that
country.
I guess that's why they it's
digital.
Couldn't they run it from one
place in Old Paso or whatever?
It was Well, well, maybe the
office is actually.
They say it's an office, but
maybe it's a.
Just A room.
Well, yeah, well, it's like a
building where they keep all
the.
Dirty movies.
No Jesus Christ, no the the
things that store all the
information.
The Britney Spears Britney
Spears.
Yeah, besides the.
Oh yeah, What's it called?
There's one over in a 54.
Yeah, Data cloud or whatever,
the servers, servers, there you
go.
Yeah, data servers, data
servers.
Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe they have to have, you
know, because they probably,
they probably do have a lot of
content because you got to think
how much content is a 2 hour
movie and how many movies do
they have?
And then they have in different
languages and you know, all that
good stuff.
So maybe.
Somebody's got to hit that dub
button for the the words right
is.
That how it works.
Yeah, there's one guy types it
all in as the movie's going.
Yeah, just types.
Away.
Watch this.
I'm going to really mess a.
Little is that why it's like
messed up sometimes?
Like I'm looking at the captions
and like, wait a minute.
Right, because it's the wrong
word.
Like it's too slow I.
Hate what happened?
Well, that's because you get a
Spanish speaking guy that can
only speak some Spanish.
Yeah, you know, he's like
Spanish and English.
So if he doesn't know the word,
he just gibberish.
The Spanglish translate you'll
know, say tractor they're.
Not going to know what it is.
They don't speak English.
Put that word in.
Amazon has the worst closed
captioning I think.
Amazon Prime.
I don't know if you watch
anything on Amazon Prime.
Well yeah, I mean they have some
halfway decent stuff, but it is
the worst streaming.
Service, yeah, it's very
specific case scenario where I'm
like Amazon Prime, right, you
know, So I agree with you on
that.
There are some good movies on
it, but usually not.
And then there's one that has
that does a lot of Indian
movies.
Is that Netflix?
It's.
Probably like tubi or something.
No, no, it's one of the major
ones.
No, I think.
Netflix does have a category
just for like Bollywood.
And it shows up here.
Yeah, like who's watching all
that here?
Indians.
We don't, probably.
Greg Craig.
Yeah, yeah.
He's very outdoorsy, very, very
international.
Yeah.
Right.
Maybe that's his next trip.
India, yeah, it's very dirty.
I wouldn't want to.
Go Yeah.
So I hear no offense for yeah.
See, I'm the right for.
Indian fans, no offense at all.
I mean, we don't we don't mock
your accent on this show four
times a week.
So listen, I'll.
I'll put it this way, of all the
content I've seen that comes out
of India, yes, like tourists and
stuff going, I haven't seen
anything appealing.
Right.
Oh, there you go.
That's a nice way to put it,
Yeah.
I'm like the PR guy.
I'm with him.
That's why they're the number
one rated joke, he said.
We used to.
We used to be.
Racist things you say.
Racist adjacent.
We used to be very PR, but now
we just don't give a.
Well, yeah, eight years, 8
years, I don't care.
A week.
It's not like they're going to
catch.
It.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, we're spattering them with
comment or with content they
can't find Opus Clip this,
right?
Yeah, Opus, that's just it.
Opus Clip grabs the stuff you
don't want anybody to hear the
second time, right.
I have noticed that lately and I
don't think Mikey Police's it, I
think it just.
Goes no, that would take time.
Phil, did you guys cover the
story yesterday from El Paso,
TX, where they're closing the
airport for 10 days?
No.
Did you guys skip that?
It was in there.
Nope, don't.
Remember at All Well, El Paso,
TX closed their airport for 10
days.
No apparent reason, no rhyme.
They're not sane.
Interesting.
Oh yeah, yeah, this is the one
with the airspace.
Yes, yes, the airspace over El
Paso and the airport has been
closed.
Yeah, no, yeah, we, we did go
over that.
OK, so apparently it was not
covered in that story.
It is from drone activity in the
area from the hotel.
Is that?
What you said I.
Said drones.
Yes, for excessive drone in
Mexico.
Yeah, Willie was talking about
Area 51 and stuff and.
No, no aliens, Willie, very
sorry.
Well, that's in Nevada.
Right, so.
He's not, he's not that tall.
He doesn't understand things.
Is that how it works?
Height correlates with IQ.
No geography.
Well, as he was, as the body was
growing, the brain and
everything stopped.
So he's shorter, right?
So everything stopped growing.
Yeah.
It's kind of like a plant, you
know, As a plant gets bigger and
taller, it looks better and
everything, you know.
Well, it's it's like data
storage is smaller the thing the
less you can put in it it.
Makes sense.
So no.
So I'm like average
intelligence.
Right, right.
Sure.
But but maybe you're smarter
than most super.
Smart, because look how big he
is.
If you yeah, yeah.
Big head.
Yeah, if you actually Palmer has
a bigger head than me.
Yep, we found out yesterday we
were trying.
We're trying on the new hat.
It's heavy.
Because the mask doesn't even
cover his entire face.
Well, that's Palmer's design.
Yeah, and I got tired of putting
stickers on him, like, that's
enough.
I'm done.
These are not good.
You can't put a flat sticker on
a round surface.
Apparently it's very hard to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's like a little
crease in there.
Yeah, yeah, Little bubbles and
things.
And I was like, I'm fucking
done, all right.
In Chihuahua, Mexico.
It's a small town in northern
Mexico, the way in which
hundreds of birds known as
yellow headed thrushes have
died.
They're flying head first into
the ground at full speed.
What?
Oh, so they've converted to
Islamic birds?
No, that's Japanese.
Japanese.
Oh yeah.
No, Yeah, they're Islamic.
They blow up.
Let's let's get on with it.
Let's be real little people.
You're going to be a racist.
At least be a correct racist,
Mike.
He's never.
Leaving a.
Game.
So they have recorded these
birds coming in and just dive
bombing and hitting the ground
and it snaps their necks.
Wow.
Geez, really?
It snaps their necks, huh?
So if birds are committing
suicide, like how bad is life
actually for us?
Just this one town.
Are we just?
Numb to it?
It's just this one town.
Yeah, I heard the bird economy
there.
It's horrible.
So it was on February 7th.
It was all on one day.
They all just.
They they knew something that we
don't know.
Well, they are saying that
images captured by security
cameras show the crashing to the
ground and dying while others
agonize or resume flight.
So all of them did die.
Some of them got back up and
flew again.
But they're thinking that there
was some type of other animal
chasing them, a bird that eats
these type of birds, I guess.
And in an attempt to get away,
they were dive bombing the
ground and some of them I guess
couldn't pull up at the last
minute.
One against 30.
Well, there might be a flock of
them, who knows?
Yeah, this sounds like a Stephen
King book.
This is going to be like in a
documentary in 10 years that
we'll see, yeah.
Right on February 7th.
Unless the world ends and we
have to go to the moon before
then.
Yeah, maybe for.
Elon, I would like to go please
me and my wife.
If you could take the wife,
that'd be fine.
My wife, my wife, he can't take
my wife.
If my wife could go with.
Us.
That's what it's it sounds like,
yeah.
I know I did after I said I'm
like, wait a minute, did I just
bargain my wife?
With the moon.
All right, many believe this
could be a flock persecuted by
predatory birds and are trying
to avoid it.
They hit the soil.
Hopefully a software where in
India was or I don't know where
this was.
See, these birds normally fly
from the United States to Canada
to Mexico to spend the winter,
and once cold subsides, they
return to the north.
Well, these guys aren't going
back.
Some of them aren't.
Yeah, a few I guess made it, but
mostly the pictures.
Terrible.
There's like all these
splattered birds, and the birds
are black except for their
yellow heads.
So now we have bird on bird
violence.
Yes, the numbers are
skyrocketing.
We have or have not gone to the
moon.
We're not going to Mars.
That's completely out of the
picture.
And now birds are crashing.
Maybe.
Maybe the birds.
All the signs are pointing to
the world is ending.
Maybe that's why the we're going
to the moon.
Maybe, right?
Maybe it's part of the thing.
Maybe Elon likes yellow headed
thrushes.
That sounds weird.
Well, you never know.
He's from a different country.
You don't know what they eat
there.
All right, moving on to cigar.
Oh, do you have a video?
You don't have a video?
Of course not.
Why would you have a video?
A.
Video.
Mikey likes me asking if he has
a video and then he gives us
these really weird videos that I
have to insert into the show
that he thinks are funny.
And no, we don't.
Watch this.
That's basically.
Anything you want in there?
That's basically what we do and
he's over there laughing his ass
off, giggling in boots and are
going what is this?
Oh, he actually watches it on
the show.
And they, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.
But we all three, he will send
it to the two of us.
We all three watch it on the
show.
And then he wants to talk about
it.
And normally we're like, what is
this?
I think what we should do is
just pretend to watch a video
and then the video is this
episode being played.
Back in again.
Oh, and that would be funny, but
it still involves editing.
Oh yeah.
All right, three new Opus Purple
Rain cigars are coming later
this year.
Purple Rain.
Purple Rain For the last eight
years Prometheus has only
offered a single opus.
Purple Rain Vatola 6 and 78 by
44 Lonsdale with a pre cut
torpedo cap.
Later this year, they're doing 3
of.
Them what?
I remember there was big hype
around the Purple Rain
previously.
Yeah, I, I, I really.
I'm sorry.
I've, I've never smoked Fuente.
Me neither.
Ryan OH Fuente or Purple Rain?
Fuente period.
Just in general.
You've never smoked a Fuente?
This is I'm talking about, this
is where I first started smoking
cigars.
Oh, they're Dominican.
He hates Dominicans.
I was going to say the people
and the cigars.
So after about two years,
there's this guy that comes
there, his name is Robbie Doyle.
I'm sure you know Robbie.
He at.
Least heard of him?
Right, Discount oil.
Yeah, everybody knows that.
He likes to find shops and RIP
them off for their Opus cigars.
Jesus resell them at a higher
price than people that don't
know any better.
Aw.
Man, I should go into business
with them.
That sounds great.
Oh my God.
It's a great business model.
I'm sure you have better access
than he does.
That is true.
You can find me on.
So, full rain opus.com, right?
So.
Back slash.
He smokes 85 eights, right?
And I was like, man, he's like,
he's always trying to give me
one.
I was like, Nah man, I'm good.
I'm not going to smoke a Flinte.
It's just not my.
Turning down cigars.
Yeah, it's just not my type of
thing, you know, like whatever,
it just doesn't smell good.
I always take them because then
you can just re gift them.
Yeah, you can sell.
You trade them over something
else.
I don't know, I just those ones.
I just really just feel like I
don't want to do that to my
friends.
It's Dominican.
He doesn't like the people or
the.
Cigar.
I didn't say that.
And then he asked for Assam
Perez cigar earlier so.
Yeah.
Is that Dominican?
Yeah.
Did you know that, Phil?
What?
Listen, what Palmer is saying, I
think is not completely true.
Yeah.
Yeah, he just knows they cost a
lot.
No, no, I mean you.
Have said on the show you don't
like Dominican cigars.
First of all, I would always
support my boy Sweeney, but
he's.
Well, taking a free cigar isn't
really supporting your boy
Sweeney.
Well, sell you a cigar.
Yeah, yeah, you'd have to.
Pay for it, I bought 1 when they
were here.
Anyways, let's get back to the
story, because what Palmer said
was only halfway true.
There's some Dominican scars I
do not like so anyway.
But he doesn't like Dominican
people about that party.
No the.
He takes half of my insult away.
This whole show's a.
SIOP, he takes the wrong half of
my insult away at the time.
Anyways, so he goes like, I was
seeing this purple rain all over
Facebook.
So I was like, because I was in
a bizarre leaf, whatever it's
called.
So I was like, you know, purple
rain.
That's Prince.
I really want to try this then,
so I tell Robbie I was like, yo,
give me a Purple rain.
He's like, man, that's a hard
cigar.
Fine, I'm like.
Building up the price right
there.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I said listen, Robbie, I'm
not paying for this cigar, first
of all, and I will give you, I
will trade you.
Yeah, you know.
And he's like, okay, whatever.
So he finally found me one.
It was really hard to find.
I took two puffs and I threw it
in the ashtray.
You're lying, I swear.
I promise you.
And he'll tell you the same
story, dude.
There was so much hyper on those
cigars.
To be fair to your point, I had
been smoking Opus on and off,
like just to try different stuff
and there was nothing that kind
of stood out to me in terms of
what I was paying for.
The only cigar that I had
recently was their Tempo de Aura
that came out, the one with the
gold, like new one.
That one was actually really
good.
That was a really good cigar.
I was the the only one that I
really like from Fuente is the
was it Casa de Cuba?
Casa, it was a great cigar,
Yeah.
Yeah, I like that. 12 bucks,
probably 15 now but.
Yeah, I'll smoke that because we
smoked that on the show, so it
wasn't bad.
Oh.
So it was free.
Yeah, I know it was free.
He was supporting us, Yeah.
Let's see where we at.
All right, they did.
They're doing a Heaven and earth
Purple rain, A547 and a half by
54.
A Fuente Fuente Heaven and Earth
Purple Rain, 6 1/4 by 56 and a
heaven and earth Purple Rain
Deodima 58, five and a half by
60.
Big boys.
Aw, big cigars, all right,
special little tobacco, blah,
blah, blah.
It's magic, Everybody loves it,
blah, blah, blah.
Lighters and stuff.
All right, they're selling a big
box.
I'm trying to get to the big box
part.
I like big boxes.
And big box.
I I don't understand the the 60
ringgage thing this whole year.
Oh see, 60 is the bigger one.
No, no.
I.
Understand the hype around 60
Ringgages.
Yeah, like, like last year, like
this was a thing.
Like all of a sudden one came
out and they're like, oh,
everybody's making a 60.
Everybody's asking for bigger
cigars this year.
It's true, yeah.
Who's everybody?
The shop owners like how big a
cigar?
What's the biggest cigar you
make?
And then you tell them and they
go, oh, where I got guys that
like big.
Ones 52.
Is it for value?
Like is it a value?
Smoke.
I think so, yeah.
Everything goes around like a
couple years ago, laying ceros.
Everybody was making laying.
So everybody loved laying ceros.
Everybody's making Connecticut.
Sierra Connecticut came out.
Everybody loves Connecticut.
Yeah, 'cause like a sick I like
dude, I do not smoke 60 ring
gauge, no.
Right.
Unless it's box press, then it's
more like a 54.
Yeah, I'll smoke a 60 ring gauge
like box press.
That's a little different.
No, I'm not a 60 engaged guy.
Yeah, I don't.
Even don't like the big ones
either.
Right, I'm just the owner.
Yeah, again, must be for the
value.
All right, these giant humidors,
they have 106 Opus X cigars and
a copy of Arturo Fuente's book.
Apparently he wrote a book about
the company.
How much is the humor guys?
I.
Didn't give you a lot of
information, so just throw
numbers. 3500.
Well, the book is The book is
priceless, so I'm going to go.
Priceless. 8000. $12,975.
Yeah, their prices are just
absolutely ridiculous.
They said 25 up mountain
December, the other 25 are
coming out here soon, so you
guys still have a chance.
Oh, they're coming to Hustler.
No, we're not getting one here.
Oh.
Sorry about you said 25 are
coming here.
No, they're coming out.
Oh, OK.
So you can go over probably to
Cathedral and get one over
there.
I've never been there.
Have you ever been to a
cathedral?
Nope.
Oh, you should go at least once.
It's like Disney World.
You should go one time.
Is it only Fuente cigars?
Not only but.
It's predominantly.
Fuente shop basically but they
have other stuff there.
Well, if they have other stuff,
maybe I'll go, but if there's
only Fuente, you're losing me.
No Pastania.
I'll bring them in my pocket.
I'm not allowed to smoke them
there.
Careful.
I take the band off, I say, Oh
yeah, this is one of those great
A5 eights, you guys, man.
They have a house.
They have a house cigar there.
That's pretty good.
That's not, you know,
outlandishly expensive.
Yeah.
Yeah, actually their house
cigars are pretty.
Good house cigars are pretty
good, all right.
Espanola and Versario, 30 years,
is debuting at the PCA 2026.
Espanola.
The problem is they say the PCA
2026 is in March.
No, it's not.
No, it's in April, I double
checked.
Yeah, it's April like 17th I
think is.
Yeah, 17th through something.
So is it PCA or is it TPE?
It says PCA SPE is March. 31st.
Yeah, so maybe they maybe they
meant them could be the cigar
that started it all for JM.
Tobacco in the Maruchan family
is marketed his 30th anniversary
this year and the company is
celebrating with a limited
edition release.
So they're putting out two
cigars.
There's a Maduro that uses a
Mexican San Andreas wrapper, a
Dominican HBA binder and fillers
from the Dominican Republic and
Pennsylvania.
The company calls the Maduro
blend rich and nuanced,
delivering deep earth tone,
sweet spice and complex layered
character, a nod to classic
Cuban inspired craftsmanship.
Meanwhile, the Espanola
Anniversario 30 year Habano uses
an Ecuadorian Habano, Mexican
San Andreas, and then Dominican
Republic and Pennsylvania.
You know what this cigar sounds
like?
It sounds like the Bassa cigar.
Both blends, by the way, really
Bono and Mexican San Andreas.
So if you want a similar
experience, you can just get a
Bassa cigar at Cigar Hustler, by
the way.
Yes, they sell them here.
They sell them here.
Boost can support us and buy
some after the show.
He's supporting right now by
smoking a free one.
Yeah, you know what this is AI
do like this size.
Yeah, this is good.
There's a little one.
Yeah, the raw tile, yeah.
Oh, it wasn't enough for me.
I mean, I enjoyed this cigar,
but I wanted more.
I was like, oh, it's already
gone too.
You only gave me the one.
I was just trying to support
you.
There's.
There's more to the humidor.
I don't pay for cigars.
Right, we got Yeah, we do this
show for free, right?
They got to do something great.
It's not like, you know, they
pay me tremendous amounts of
money.
Do you describe your blend as
bright and vibrant?
No.
Oh, they do.
It's better balanced spice,
cedar sweetness and nuanced
citrus notes.
Actually, yes.
Oh, and a refi Ned expression of
Dominican and Mexican bank.
What's a refi, Ned?
Refined.
Refined.
That makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, there you.
Go.
So apparently there was a typo
in Charlie's article.
Thanks, Charlie.
It's because when he was eating
the teriyaki noodles with the.
Chopsticks.
He got some on the screen.
He didn't say space.
He can't read it.
So I don't know if he's just not
reading it correctly or.
No, no, it's REFI space Ned and
I just got.
I just cut and paste.
Yeah.
Cigars are slated to be on
display at the 2026 PCA
Convention and Trade Show in
late March.
That's what it says.
So I think it is TPI think it's
what it's supposed to say.
Maybe it makes more sense 'cause
that's in late March, you said.
Yeah, and it's slated to ship to
stores in late April, which is
during the actual PCA.
Either way, so someone messed
up.
That's kind of crazy cause.
Well, it's the refinance, so
you.
Know nobody's spending money in
March.
I mean, they're waiting.
For everybody.
Yeah, everybody's calling back.
Yeah.
So it's.
Like actually they'll start at
the end of February.
RIP.
Oh, you mean for show deals?
Well, they'll start.
Well, we'll just wait till the
show, right?
That's what I'm saying.
People are going to hold back.
So it's like, why would you
release this in March?
Well, they're probably releasing
this at the show, is what they
because.
They release, let's say it is TP
and they release it there.
They're getting like early
publicity, so to say, right?
And then they'll probably be at
PCA anyway, so sure.
Or they just got the.
Dates wrong.
Well it's JM Tobacco.
Maybe they only do the TPE.
They might not do PCA.
Yeah, I don't know who those
guys are.
I'll find out.
We're going.
You're going to TPE?
Yeah.
Are you?
Yeah.
Well, are you are you showing a
TPE?
Or no, we're going.
We're going as media.
OK, Yeah.
We're getting they practically
get paid to go to TPE or are you
guys getting paid this year?
Not practically literally,
right?
How do we feel?
But you're the you're the number
one show.
I mean, you get deals.
Oh yeah, this.
This random person emailed me
out of nowhere and I said sure,
let's do it.
Did they send you the check?
No, I just sent an invoice, so
we'll see.
Maybe we're not going, who
knows?
Oh.
Yeah, maybe the one that never
comes.
Maybe some dudes laughing his
ass off going look at these
assholes.
They sent me a bill.
Right can't wait to can't wait
to get their get the money from
him after I scam him and give it
all to CRA or I'm sorry.
It it wasn't my chance.
An address up in New Hampshire,
was it?
No.
David Garofalo, Incorporated.
Oh, he got you.
He got you.
Damn, he hates not being the
number one show.
I got to tell you, he doesn't
like when people say that.
To be fair, we signed the
contract before we found out we
were the number one show.
Oh, did you?
Oh, you asked for more money?
Unless they knew before us.
Oh quick, get him on the paper
now.
They're the number one show.
They don't know it yet.
You know what?
Charge him double.
Let us go.
We'll go with you guys.
Well, we just joined the show.
Anyway, we get to go.
Oh yeah, we did the show this
show, right?
You're the button pusher and I
carry the cords.
What do you think Mikey's going
to do?
It's going to be like the last
episode of Fresh Prince when he
comes in tomorrow.
And there's nobody here.
Yeah, no one's here.
No, no, equipment's not set up
or anything.
So sad there's just a rug.
I'm just upstairs ringing people
up.
Just a rug.
You guys took the equipment too
well, we needed it.
We needed it to expand the show.
We're not in his garage anymore
either.
We need a bigger space.
We're using that TT money.
We we rented out the studio next
door again.
We kicked them out.
We're we're.
Moving.
Oh my God.
All right, there's a flavored
tobacco ban for Bose for
Illinois.
Oh.
Oh, this is for you now.
OK, You guys hate flavored
cigars.
I forgot all your videos.
All I'm hearing is good news you
hate.
All yours good news.
Are you guys behind all these
new things that are trying to?
No, I don't have enough time and
money for that in in all honesty
though, TV.
Money.
You got that TV if.
You want to smoke infused
cigars?
Go for it, I'll still make fun
of you for the content.
Did you did you start out with a
few cigars?
Me.
No, no, actually my first cigar
was a Padrone 1926 Maduro.
Yeah, so I started.
You got respect from Phil over
there?
I'm very.
Sorry, I have smoked a flavored
cigar before and infused cigar
before.
But then I like it.
No, it was terrible.
Which one was it?
What you had, it was the like
acid Blondie.
Oh well, you picked the wrong
one.
Are there good ones?
Yes.
And I'm not talking about sweet
tip, by the way, that's
different.
No, no, no.
I'm talking about I don't like
those.
It goes away.
They can find a way to sweet tip
it through the entire experience
and then OK.
You got to.
You got to start deeper.
Wow, let's move on from all
that.
Mark, yeah, he got a little, he
got a little excited.
He just know what to do now,
right?
The bill was introduced last
week by Senator Mary Edley
Allen, a Democrat from Grace
Slake.
Where that is currently has no
other sponsors currently just
California.
Massachusetts banned the sale of
flavored tobacco products.
Your favorite states I'm
assuming?
They gained some respect.
They gained some respect.
That's my favorite place.
We only go to these states.
Both states have different
exemptions for some flavored
cigar sales.
Let's see, SB 3148 does not
appear to have any of those
exemptions.
So in Illinois, I'd be flat out
just they're all done.
None.
OK, I don't know.
Illinois is a weird state, so.
It is a weird state.
My brother's up there right now.
Oh, is he?
Yeah.
Under like.
Is that where he lives, Snow?
Or something.
For now, yeah.
Is that one of the other basic
guys or is that just your
brother?
No, my actual brother, OK, he's
not Albanian, right?
God.
Well, you're well, yeah.
You're not Albanian.
No.
Right.
That's OK.
Makes sense?
Let's clear that for the record,
yeah?
Right.
He's works for the Albanian
Cigar Company and he's not
Albanian.
It's hard to get out.
Let's say that, well, he's like
that.
It's hard to.
Get out of the cigar industry.
Imagine like the Albanian cigar
industry.
It's.
Oh, you're never.
Yeah, it's like the Mafia I.
Understand it's by death.
Right, right.
We're scared of your partners.
Just letting you know.
We'll miss you, Alex.
Just carry on the cigar, guys.
Without me.
You know what's wrong, right?
Well, it won't be #1 anymore.
It'll fall apart.
It's OK if I'm dead, I could
care less.
But we won't care because we
don't get paid.
Then how?
Long is.
TP go back to not yeah, Rebecca
not getting paid there.
Phil, I don't want to tell you
Alex is gone.
Well, no, in all honesty, like
the government of Illinois can
screw themselves because even
though I personally don't like
flavored or infused cigars, I
don't agree with this.
Oh.
You don't want them banned.
No, I think it's ridiculous.
NY.
Well, he thinks people just
shouldn't smoke them, so why ban
something that people should not
have?
They should die naturally.
Well, yeah, I mean, everything
should die like that.
But you know, at the end of the
day, like so Mikey's biggest
argument with this type of stuff
is always if they start with a
few cigars, then the next thing
is.
Right, exactly.
You know, regular cigars, give
them an instant, they take a
mile.
So I think it should be
completely off the table like
they should not be doing this.
Right.
Gotcha.
Yeah, like, like you can't smoke
a few cigars, but you can vape.
Right, well, vape is included in
the outline of the flavored
tobacco.
Oh, vape.
Yeah, vape.
Is it tobacco?
No, it's not, but they included
in part of the thing it's
listed.
Well, is it flavored vape or
vape in general?
I would imagine it's flavored
with.
Probably that's what they do
with the Jewels.
It's like, oh, you can't have
mango pods anymore and then
people stop smoking them, right?
Right.
Yeah, They're just going to
reclassify it.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
This isn't flavored.
Well the the UTL for California
is actually has to be flavored
stuff too.
So like sweet Jans and that
stuff is OK.
No, no, it's not.
It's not flavored.
Right, because those aren't
flavored.
It's anything that's like grape
or or.
That's why they replaced Acid
cigars with Sweet Jane.
They're doing this shift right
now, right?
Like Sweet Jans becoming more
popular than ACID cigars.
I don't know if you noticed
that.
That's like their play right
now.
Yeah, because, well, what?
What's the gentleman's name from
CRA?
Scott Pearce.
Scott Pearce, that's the guy
that we talked to, right?
Or CAA.
CAACACARA is Josh Weber or no?
He's PCA.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know who CA.
Is the rights of America.
We talked to the gentleman and
he said that as long as the
literature says it is flavored
as candy is what he said.
So if it's like a cherry candy
flavored cigar.
Or cherry flavored hemp, be
candy.
Anything that has a distinct
flavor.
Well, that's how they got around
it though, he said.
He said.
Right, they got Well, that's how
like the sweet Jane's get it.
Not sweet.
Yeah, sweet Jane gets around it.
It's not it's, you know, pipe
tobacco.
It's not apple flavored.
They don't tell you.
That's why I like the Outkast
cigar came out and the Cigarco
it didn't say anything about
being.
No, I didn't even know it was.
I just found out the other day.
We got the Rep left one here.
I took it home from my wife.
No.
So they sent us a couple and I
read the blend.
I'm like this sounds really
interesting, I think I might
enjoy this.
As soon.
As I see them as soon as I Yeah.
I caught that too, Phil.
It wasn't even lit.
We don't even get free cigar
sent.
To you?
How do you get cigar sent to
you?
We're not even on that one.
You get free cigar sent to you.
No.
Well.
Because, you know, they say,
well, I got a humidor of them
back there.
Oh, is that what it is?
Guilty by association?
Here we are.
It's because, yeah, it's because
there's that place upstairs that
I mean, they're going to send
Cigar to me.
You.
Already have my cigars.
Yeah, what do you need more for?
Listen, if you'd like to send a
cigar so we could try them on
the show and tell everybody how
great they are.
Yep, I can easily slide those
into the Patreon.
I'm just.
Giving you guys more reasons to
join my show.
Yeah, apparently you can see.
So you can.
Get the ping lighters too.
Good thing.
Oh yeah, we got this for free
too.
Yeah, he's got the ping, we've
got the click.
Yeah, sometimes it works,
sometimes it doesn't.
Right, They make us buy our own
fuel.
It's a very bootstrapped finance
show here.
Yeah, we actually got Keanu out
there trying to get fuel out of
the ground for us.
You're in the oil business.
Too, Yeah.
We're trying to be we're trying
to be in every business.
Whatever we need.
All right, It's time for every
time For every time for the
industry's favorite game.
What?
Yeah.
Wait, wait.
After I say time for the
industry's favorite game.
We all say it together.
Time for the industry's favorite
game.
What's the?
Score.
All right, today's cigar because
this is the mini game from
February 11th, 2026.
Patrick Lagreed is the reviewer
the Dominican Republic cigar,
the Kellner Cigar Company.
This is the Kellner LE80 we.
Want to let guests go first or
you want me to go first?
No, you go first because so he,
he's.
I just so you know, I went first
yesterday and I.
Did beat.
Willie on the first one, then
Mikey had to do another one and
he tied me, so really, I won.
Right, because it should only
have been a one thing.
Yeah, he did a he.
Did a double.
Yeah, the second one that he did
was the SBC.
Oh, that's stupid.
That's what I said I was like.
I mean, there's a there's a damn
shirt with the score on it that
we sell.
Right.
So anyways.
Who?
So who won the second game?
He did.
Willie, Yeah.
Oh, I thought he met Mikey.
He was like, how does he get a
shirt?
Really.
No Willie.
Willie won.
Willie's got a shirt.
Anyway, when do you guys pick a
score?
Alright, 84. 94.
Oh, really?
All right, cigar reviews.
The Kellner LE80 is from the
Dominican Republic.
The factory is Kellner Cigars.
They have their own factory
rappers, Ecuador and Habano
Binder.
Oh, they're not saying filler,
not saying length.
It's a 7 by 50 MSRP, $57 a
stick.
We paid for that cigar.
It came out in December of 2025,
so this is a new review.
They made 2000 cigars boxes of
release, 2000 boxes of 1020
thousand total cigars released.
They smoked 3 for the review.
Sometimes there's a redux.
I only smoke one.
Now you have an opportunity to
change your score now that you
know what it's made out of.
I'll do 92 because it's half
wheel.
All right.
I mean, he's not wrong, but the.
Score of the other day was 77.
Just letting you know.
Yeah.
This company is not around
anymore.
Yes it is.
They just released This is
Garden December of last year.
A50 This is an LE.
This is an LE.
Still, 5350 whatever over $30 is
crazy.
Oh, how much is the sample?
Over $30.
There you go.
Wow, you get you not supporting
your boy Sweeney.
I mean, he knows.
We've talked.
But I, like you, haven't like a.
Cigar.
I just think the.
Price.
I've advised him on his pricing.
Now it's a little.
What do you pour?
Wow.
No, man, I got to go down on
this.
I got to go to 82. 8294 OK clue
#1 A long, perfecto format and
oily wrapper made for a visually
impressive cigar.
The Auburn and gold tones and
different lighting paired
beautifully with the band,
giving it a distinct, elegant
presentation.
I'll stick with 92.
Phil. 82.
Oh it's going down.
Clue #2 The second third was the
clear high point balance,
creaminess and and integrated
spice notes in a complex mix of
flavors all working in harmony.
When it clicked, it was refined,
layered, and generally
enjoyable. 93.
You think because he enjoyed it?
That he scored it high, Yeah,
first first timers.
I'll go.
You know what?
I'll play his game.
I'll go to 83.
Oh, a 10 point difference.
Clue 3 The final third loss
Nuance becoming increasingly
charred and pepper heavy on the
finish with some burn and
combustion issues, especially in
the third sample which took away
from the earlier balance and
finesse. 87.
Oh, you have now come to my
world 83.
All right, final thought.
The Kellner LE80 was a real
Goldilocks experience for me,
both among the three cigars and
within nearly each one.
I was a bit concerned by the 1st
cigars performance as well.
Decent.
It felt flat and lacking the
kind of dynamic profile I would
have expected both from the
Kellner's and from a cigar with
this presentation.
There's another typo, by the
way.
Then the second one brings
things to the point I was
expecting, thanks to a rich,
nuanced, and evolving flavor
profile highlighted by a
fantastic second third.
Then the third cigar splits the
difference better than the
first, but not as good as the
second.
Well, I love a great cigar.
I appreciate consistent one just
as much, even if the flavor
might be a bit more pedestrian.
As such, it is a bit hesitant to
offer a full recommendation on
the cigar, mainly because for
such I would want someone to
have the experience I had with
the second cigar.
I'm a bit afraid they'll get the
experience of the first.
The gamble might be worth it,
but just be ready for a cigar.
They can easily fall on either
side of the expectations.
For 50 something dollars I'm.
Going to go with 86.
It's very pedestrian cigar.
What does that mean?
It means it's very normal
pedestrian.
It's nothing special I.
Just want to know what's wrong
with his palette.
Oh, this is Patrick He.
He's a great writer.
They're all great writer.
Yeah, but the.
So Thorish, right there next to
their desk while they're typing.
Yeah, they they kind of come up.
With a different staty BT let's
be honest.
Well, yeah, 'cause it just came
out, so it could be.
Yeah.
Say a bunch of things that are
nice and then say something bad.
So this is the final thought.
That was the final thought.
OK, this is your final score.
You're at 8686. 86. 85.
Tie you all.
Right.
How often do you look at half
wheel?
Oh, he knows the score.
No, I, I, I don't.
I haven't seen this review.
I've smoked a cigar.
Oh, have you?
So that's why I was rating it so
high.
But when I heard his review, I
came down.
But I have not seen their
review.
All right, it's 86.
First timer.
Oh good, that was good.
That was good cuz there you
started.
That's why when you started in
the 90s and then you hit it
right on the money.
I'm like, wait.
This is the first time Phil has
been defeated.
It is not.
Well, by a newcomer.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, Mikey and me.
I mean, that game goes on
forever.
Right back and forth, back and
forth back.
And yeah, alright, what day is
your show come out on?
Does it come out the same day
every week?
Every Saturday at 5:00 PM is
when our show premieres.
The cigar guys everywhere.
Just look at the Cigar Guys and
you'll find it.
It's at the top number one,
yeah.
Usually, yeah.
It's at the top of the rating so
it's easy to find.
Depending what you look up, you
know, but it'll be there.
Unlike our show that comes out
every single day.
Except for Saturday and.
Sunday at 5, OK, Every single
weekday at 5:00 AM.
So you can watch his show on
Saturdays.
Yeah, we did that just for that.
We filled the gap exactly.
Yeah, yeah, We had to leave at
least a couple days with other
people.
Well, Mikey's unavailable on the
weekend, so we couldn't do that.
I'm supposed to tell him that
what you just leave it at we
left it, you know, a couple days
or other people.
The only day I get off is
Saturday so.
Yeah, that's true.
That's.
On Sunday I have to do the show
for Monday, right, Which we
recorded on Friday.
Right.
And people wonder why I never
know what day of the week it is.
On the 25th I will be at
Northport Cigars down in
Northport, Florida and having a
Postana event there from 1:00
till whenever people stop
showing up.
That's great.
On the 25th I'll be at Cigars on
the Avenue with San Parais
Cigars from 5:00 to 7:00.
On what day?
Same day.
The 25th, 25th.
Oh, I didn't.
Oh, yeah, Sweeney did say he's
because he was wanting to do the
show.
Yeah, that's great.
I think I'm going to go to that.
OK.
Yeah.
He can come in and do the show
that fills you guys.
In during that time.
Yeah, he was talking about he
was coming down soon and he
wanted because I asked him when
he could come down and do the
show, say he's coming down soon.
So.
Oh.
The problem is he has to do the
show when somebody's not here.
Well, kind of.
Kick someone out.
Well, that's good because then I
don't have to do the show that
day if he can do it that day,
because I have to be there at
one.
I have to leave here at.
Well, maybe Mikey won't show up
that day.
Ten.
Well, no, he has to be otherwise
because I have to be gone by
like 1030.
Oh, that's on the Saturday 20.
3rd Oh no, it's like Wednesday.
Oh, OK.
Wednesday.
Alright guys.
Thank you very much.
We gotta go.
Bye.
Later.
Later.
Show Notes
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