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February 16, 2026· 52m

ACHP Episode 468 No Gravity?

ACHP Episode 468 No Gravity?

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Welcome to a Cigar Hustler

podcast episode 468.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host.

Phil fortunately has Oh no, he

hasn't taken the day.

What I'm?

Sorry Bing Bong, I'm here.

Sorry, Phil.

Phil we have Phil over in

engineering and my Co host see

now I wrote I messed this up my

Co host back from his day off

with many gifts for me and and

Phil.

So many presents, So many

presents.

Welcome back, Mike.

Legos.

Lots of Legos.

Lots of legos.

I just want a little Lego man.

Yeah, I got a little.

I got a little Lego person for

you.

Oh.

Thank you very much.

Yeah.

Moon is uninhabitable, ha ha ha

ha.

Oh yeah, I know.

I heard you talking.

About that, thanks for yeah,

thanks for filling it in.

On the last show, buddy, that

was fantastic.

We had a good time.

Alex is a good guy.

Since he has a show, you know

it's it's it's an easy plug in.

It was it was definitely more

flowy that he was in this chair.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Excuse me.

Well, with the new format and

the way these are more notes

than stories, yeah, I think it's

going to be hard to throw

somebody over here.

Yeah.

I mean, you did the same thing

with Willy.

Willy did a good job too.

Yeah, I thought that was fine.

Yeah.

Then it's up to us to make sure

that they feel comfortable,

right?

Yeah, OK.

It's not as funny though as you.

I think it can be.

It's just a question of your,

your, I mean, look, you know,

realistically when you throw

somebody to the wolves, yes,

it's, it's very entertaining for

us, right?

But as far as value and content,

I think that it's better when

they're over here.

Yes, I would agree.

Yes.

All right, now on today's show,

we have a travel ban from the US

government.

Uh oh.

No more gravity in August.

No more, no more.

I don't like gravity.

Hold me down.

An extreme level 1 deadly food.

Recall.

Uh oh, though.

This is this.

Is right up your alley.

This is high as it goes.

Or as low as it goes, I guess.

Yeah, level 1 is where it's.

No, that's the worst.

You eat it and you die.

Yes, yeah, yes.

Very exciting.

And in cigars, Cuba is shutting

down a new cigar that we somehow

have before it was announced.

And hold on, we're going to the

Middle East.

We are.

Yes, we're taking a trip.

OK.

All this and then a final.

What's the score for the week?

But before we get started.

Yes, yes.

How do we get some of that

chapter?

Pod swag?

Michael and Ben has been wearing

his beanie.

Yes, he has.

You know, first of all, you did

a great job trying to handle

that part of the show.

I tried to pass it off and he

fumble it, so I had.

To pick it up.

So you picked up the ball, you

carried it.

I thought that you did great.

Well, you know, I hear you do it

five days a week.

You know, it's just.

It was, it was decent, it was

decent.

A few comments from this week

'cause I missed a couple.

Oh, there's some long ones.

Yeah, at Steven Wells.

Thanks to the show for clearing

that up about the moon landing

hoax.

I would suggest that Boots the

astrophysicist takes the show on

the road, do a broadcast from

MIT and clear up some more myths

like Einstein's E equals MC

squared.

Really doesn't really.

Doesn't that sound more like run

DMC no tell model, no tell

motel, sorry.

Motel, Motel.

Yeah.

So yeah, you know, Alex is

definitely hefty on the

conspiracy theories.

Oh yeah.

And you know.

Very much so, apparently.

And and Phil is extremely

malleable, so whatever you say,

he's.

Going to believe anyway.

He's going he's he's going to

form his opinion.

That's going to be your opinion

and he's going with it.

That's right.

So exactly.

That's right.

I like what you say and then I

just say it's the same thing.

I don't have to think it is

perfect.

Right.

Yeah, I don't have to think.

He doesn't have to Rev up his

brain.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Yeah, I got some comments on

that too, Cigar Guy said.

Great show, it was fun.

Thanks for having me

disappointed, Ben Rowland said.

Disappointed.

You both totally missed Phil

thinking the moon was

inhabitable.

I didn't even hear him say it.

Yeah, you know, it's like

inhabitable, you know, we were

we trying to.

Did he say it was habitable or

inhabitable?

Is we trying to build on lava?

Like what are we doing there's?

No lava on the moon.

Exactly.

It could be done.

It could be done.

Sure, you could live on the

moon.

Yeah.

So then it would be habitable,

right?

Right.

So what was Ben upset about that

we said it wasn't or that we

said it was?

Also the part of the term.

That's all right.

Move on.

Oh, OK, yeah, so I'm sure that

because of the fact that he said

that, I'm sure that he was not

happy.

Let me see.

Gets a couple more comments

here, but there's always a lot

of somebody was yelling at me

about.

Oh, I saw that you had quite the

exchange.

Yeah, a little back and forth

there about how I, you know,

though, I think that social

media interaction isn't, is good

and can be engaging and you can

establish relationships with

that 'cause I have across this

entire nation.

Sure, those people are also

usually very respectful, right?

Right.

Those people wouldn't make a

comment because of the fact that

they know that they're just

punching to a keyboard.

And that person kind of proved

my point with some of the things

that they said.

So thank you.

Wish them the best.

Epicurean enjoyed the show.

Epicurean Smoke says cool.

Will be interesting to see what

happens with JD and DE down the

line.

Bing Bong.

Oh, he said.

Bing Bong.

Yep, everybody seems very happy

with that.

Except you.

What's that?

The JD thing, it's not JD, it's

JS.

His name was never JD.

I'm not happy about it.

I'm not.

I'm not unhappy about it.

No, no.

But everybody else was more

positive than I think, than than

your comments.

Well, I think that that's

because of the culture that he's

bred.

Right, sure, we'll get into that

next week's Patreon.

OK, that's fine.

We can definitely, we can

definitely cover more of that.

Sure, because you and I haven't

had a chance to talk about it.

Yeah, that's fair.

That's very fair.

So we can we'll we'll address it

on.

Next week's Patreon, Sure.

All right, OK.

As far as swag, check us out on

Chapter pod.com.

If you buy 1, you get the 2nd

140% off and you spend $100

more, you get free shipping.

We have some really cool swag

with that hat should be

dropping.

I want to say next week they

said I shouldn't commit to a

date but I feel.

Don't commit to a date.

I feel like it's going to happen

next week, so stay tuned.

It's only going to be 30 hats.

29 hats.

Allegedly 20.

It'll be next.

Maybe 28 hats, 28 hats, we'll

see.

And then when they're gone,

they're gone.

So in the meantime, buy some

more shirts, will you?

Thanks.

Do we have a lot of certain ones

that we would like to push?

No, I mean, realistically, you

know, I have a kind of a idea as

to what was going to, how much

is going to sell and what's not

going to sell.

So I have a decent number of the

films and then we make them

ourselves there.

So, so it doesn't matter.

Like holding a couple of the

extra films is not a big deal to

me.

SBC 82 is gone.

So that one, that one, that one

cleared out, you know, and then

the other ones are not that

eager to push out right away.

Like we got the couple of bears

left, stuff like that.

So, OK, you ready?

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I remember my phone rang and the

message shows up.

Oh, nice.

All right.

All right, now I'm with the

news.

All right, spring break is

coming up.

There's a travel warning from

the US government.

OK.

Do you guys have big plans for

spring break?

No, that sounds like a March

problem.

Well, that's two weeks.

Away I'm I'm in, I'm living in

the February problems.

Planning OK, but if you are, do

not go to the island of say,

Celles.

That's when I had books.

That Would you have books in

Celles Island?

Yeah, it's off the coast of

Madagascar.

That's probably wherever.

That's where everybody goes.

Yeah.

Beautiful beaches.

It was, it was an amazing place.

It was either Disney or that,

and we chose that.

Oh, you.

Didn't.

OK, well, don't go.

The Center for Disease Control

and Prevention issued a Level 2

advisory for the Say Celles, a

small island Republic northeast

of Madagascar known for its

beautiful and secluded beaches.

The Health Organization has

warned travellers to practice

enhanced precautions if they do

plan to visit.

OK.

The warning is in response to an

outbreak of chikungunya.

Chikungunya.

Chikungunya chikungunya, Yes,

OK.

A viral disease that can be

spread to humans by mosquitoes.

Those are usually bad.

Right, because there's nowhere

really to stop it, right?

Plus it's chikungunya.

There's.

Nothing.

If you can't pronounce it, it

can't be good, right?

I was going to send, I was going

to send my whole family there,

but I'm not going to go 'cause,

you know, I like to live long

time.

Yes.

And then if they all die, I

start over.

I like to start over fresh.

Oh OK, buddy.

So it's a pretty nasty disease.

You get a fever, you can vomit,

all that kind of stuff.

It's it's not like what's,

what's the one I get every year

where it shrinks your head?

Nile virus.

Zika.

Zika.

Zika.

Zika, it's worse than, well,

Zika.

You just get small baby heads.

But.

That's yeah, that's in pregnancy

though.

Are you?

Are you currently?

Pregnant.

If I got it.

I can't.

I can't give somebody a small

head.

Yeah, your head would be the

same.

Right, my head would be the same

but it's it's a level 2, so

level 1's the worst on

everything.

It's pretty, pretty bad.

Zika baby No no.

Chikungunya.

Chikungunya.

Chikunya.

It's a bad thing.

You don't want to get it, No.

And if you go to the Seychelles

islands off the coast of

Madagascar.

Do you think a lot of people

would travel to that place?

Apparently, probably not from

America, but I think in Europe

it is a destination place.

Beautiful secluded beaches.

It looked very pretty in the

photos.

Yeah, but deadly.

But deadly, yes.

Yes, a lot of mosquitoes.

And then they have that

chikungunya.

I like to stay in the United

States of America.

You know what I do too anymore?

It's not safe anywhere.

I mean, if the mosquitoes aren't

going to get you, there's

terrorists, there's, there's

drug cartels, there's everybody.

So many things, cats, dog

things, right?

It's crazy.

Weird cats and dogs in places.

If you travelled outside of the

US, well, I mean, you used to

travel to China all the time,

right?

Right.

If you travelled outside of the

US for vacation, where would you

go?

You and the missus.

I've always wanted to go to Fiji

for some reason.

Oh.

That sounds fancy.

Yeah, that's just it.

It's expensive then.

Bora Bora.

Bora Bora, yeah, I'd love to

stay in the over water bungalow

things.

I think that would be nice.

So.

Someplace tropical.

Yeah, I'm more tropical than

cold.

Gotcha.

OK, how about you?

Wherever the hell my wife would

want to go, you know, And it

would be a beach somewhere.

Yeah, Adrian's more Beachy too,

so that I take that into into

account when I pick somewhere.

Yeah, and she would probably

look for a place where there

wasn't Wi-Fi, so it couldn't

work.

Yeah.

The last cruises we took, we had

a rule where the phones went in

the safe when we got on the

boat.

Well, I mean, we didn't buy the

Wi-Fi anyway, so.

Didn't matter.

You could still use them to take

photos as a camera, but we would

take them out when we got to

port.

Gotcha.

So yeah, that way in case you

got abducted, they could contact

you.

Well, for taking photos, because

you're usually doing something

if you're getting off the boat,

you know how many pictures you

want to take of you drinking a

Foo Foo.

If you like pina colada, right?

Yeah.

Nice.

OK.

All right.

There's a lot going on, a lot

going on lately.

OK, tell me.

Do you hear the rumor that the

Earth is going to lose gravity?

Not until now.

Not until you, I hadn't.

Heard it till this morning.

Yeah.

So there is a report that has

been leaked from NASA that on

August 12th, 2026, the Earth is

going to lose gravity for 7.3

seconds.

Really, they're trying to decide

how they're going to save

everyone.

How is that possible?

Well, what it is is there's two

black holes out there and

whatever they emit their black

hole rays or whatever holiness,

yes, it's going to intersect on

Earth on that day.

OK, and there is like AI don't

think I grabbed the percentage.

It's also the day of a solar

eclipse, which allows the rays

or something to.

Get to us, the Rays, OK?

Right.

Or the ions or zeons or whatever

the hell comes out of a black

hole.

But there is a like, it's like

93.7% chance that that's going

to happen that the, that the

rays are going to hit Earth.

So, I mean, that's pretty good

odds.

OK, so the rays are going to hit

earth and we're going to float

for 7 minutes.

Well, here's what's going to

happen.

Tell me.

People, animals, anything not

like down starts floating in the

1st 2 seconds.

OK.

SO12 you're up in the air and

then you will continue to rise

for the next 3 to 4 seconds at a

rapid pace, because rapid

because there's no, I mean,

you're not just right.

So you'll reach 15 to 20 meters,

that's 49 to 65 feet in the air.

OK.

And then the gravity comes back

on, everything falls.

Wow OK and I think this is legit

gonna happen.

Well, according to this report

from NASA that was leaked out on

the interwebs, which who knows

you know at this point.

You know, I heard that my

microwave was going to kill me

when at 1999 at 12:00 on

December.

Right.

Yeah, right.

That was going to happen too.

And the Mayan calendar stopped

on a certain day, so we were all

going to die in terrible

volcanic eruptions.

Or whatever it was, Yeah, they

stopped this.

Might just be the newest thing.

It sounds like it is.

But it it's all over the

Internet though.

Who came up with this, this

serious micro dosing?

You know what I mean?

Like God Lee.

Yeah.

I mean, did somebody make it up?

All I mean, is there, maybe

there is actual 'cause there's

things out there, there's even

like a zombie apocalypse book

that the government's made just

in case it happens, right?

It could be like that.

It could be, you know, let's

figure out what we would do if

this happened, right?

And then it leaks out and

everybody goes, Oh my God, I

think it's really gonna happen.

No gravity.

No gravity for 7.3 seconds.

Apparently that that is just

enough to bring us all up in the

air, high enough to where we

slam back down and die.

OK, so you're gonna stay indoors

on August 13th or whatever?

Well, cars a little lift off too

so they can explode inside your

house.

You got a car in your driveway.

How would it I don't?

Would it explode?

Just come down and?

65 feet and slam down on the

ground.

I don't, I don't know if that.

Would blow up.

It's not a movie.

It is.

Everything's a movie.

Geico's going to go belly up, I

can tell you that much.

Oh, hey, we're, we just wanted

to e-mail everybody and let you

guys know we will not be

covering you on the date of

August 13th for August 12th car

insurance.

Oh, for the day after or

whatever, it's August 12th,

whatever the day is that the car

is supposed to fly away.

Do you remember hearing a couple

of weeks remind me a month ago

now about the insurance rebates

that were possible to get?

No, you.

Didn't hear about that.

Who do you have your insurance

or your car insurance with

GEICO?

I don't think that's one of

them.

It's not Allstate either 'cause

I looked.

But Connor has Progressive.

It was yesterday or the day

before it was time where they

auto draw his insurance.

Well they didn't take any money

they gave him $90.00.

So when he went and looked when

he got home from work yesterday,

his insurance is paid now till

April and he made an extra 90

bucks.

Wow, he got the rebate.

That's amazing.

Yeah, that's good for him.

Yeah.

Unfortunately for me, they.

Yeah, no, yeah.

He was like, quick, go online,

get us the rebate.

I look like we're not.

It's not ours.

Phil, how do you feel about

floating on August 12th?

I'm going to tie myself down to

ground and make sure that I I'm

OK.

Oh, oh, OK, make.

Sure, he's a bouquet.

Oh, that he's OK.

Bouquet, I'm OK.

Bing bong, Bing bong.

OK, what about the rest of your

family?

You worried about them?

No, they need to figure it out

themselves.

I need to protect myself first

at all costs. 94.7 is the

probability.

I did grab the. 94.7 Slightly

higher than.

The 93.

OK.

And Phil, what about your car?

Are you worried about your?

Car no I don't get rebate for

insurance and if they break it,

if gravity break it GEICO better

coverage.

It's pretty big.

It's a big truck.

It's a big truck.

What about all his trailers out

there full of stuff and.

That's going to It's all going

to flow to work.

We'll still be there in August.

Yeah, could be could be a

problem.

Could be a problem.

Yeah, OK.

Well, actually that becomes a

Greg problem, so it's not mine.

Your day deal.

Yeah, yeah.

And that guy's, you know, he's

already, he's on vacation.

Is that where he is?

Is that where he's not here

today?

He took on a vacation.

Yeah.

He's sick for 11 days and then

comes back to work for two and

then goes away.

I got to get out of here.

Where'd he go?

Can you imagine?

Can you imagine what?

That life.

That's got to be a great life,

right?

You know?

All right.

Looks like everything's under

control here.

I'm.

So yeah, he didn't even look.

He was here just in time, just

enough time to meet Bert

Kreischer and then get out of

right.

Yeah, we had Bert Kreischer in

the shop.

He.

Stopped in the shop.

Apparently the guy is a big

cigar guy.

Big cigar guy.

Which is pretty cool.

Like a legit cigar guy.

Not, you know.

Yeah, he was looking for

Tattoise.

Yeah, he was a Tatui guy and you

know, he was asking for some

other stuff.

Brand new blue SD du Pont

lighter.

Very beautiful.

So, so you see him, tell him,

hey, I know we're going.

To that's a hell of a lighter

yeah, that was cool.

Of course it happens the one day

that I am not here, right, You

know, and.

When nobody gushed over him.

I mean, you know, we all sort of

stood around staring at him, but

no.

But you know what, I would have

enjoyed having a conversation

with him without giving too much

of the conversation that I heard

away right.

I would have loved to give some

value and perspective from some

of his other interactions that

he's had with some of these

other retailers because I don't

think, from what I heard, I

don't think the conclusion that

he drew for some of them was

necessarily fair.

But I would like to explain to

him why.

Maybe there's more to the story

that he didn't say.

So you know.

They they stopped up the street.

Didn't like it.

Yeah, they stopped there first.

Apparently it sounded like he

was hitting every shop he could

find from wherever he was.

Maybe the airport to Daytona

500?

And we and we were the 1.

We found us on Yelp.

We were the 1.

We would have we should have

been the last one, unless he

went to Don Kiki's.

No, he would have hit the

racetrack.

He.

He was done.

He got hooked up.

We got the right stuff.

Yeah.

Here we had what he wanted.

Yeah.

So yeah.

Very nice man has lost a lot of

weight.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh man, I'd love to just talk to

him.

You know it.

He looks like Boots.

Does he?

Yeah, that's funny.

Oh yeah, me and Bert.

Bert Stunt.

You look like Phil.

You know what?

You could.

He could.

You need me to jump off building

or No, I no, I'm never.

Behind I'm jumping off no

building that's.

Stupid I.

Would you need me to eat

something?

If you need me to eat sandwich

for you, I will eat sandwich.

Oh, there you go.

That's nice.

Bert, you know, on a diet.

Yeah.

Yeah, I call him Bert.

Now, yeah, you guys are tight.

That's good.

Yeah, we exchanged phone

numbers.

Oh, nice.

OK, so yeah, Greg's on vacation.

Which probably Bert's probably

trying to call him to get more

Tetois.

Hey, Greg gave him his number.

So now what are we doing now?

Now no one can't get him.

Now we're screwed.

Now we're done, he's going to go

to somewhere else.

It was a good run.

Yes, it was good being his one

day cigar supplier.

One purchase.

The one purchase.

Could have been friends.

Probably needs fuel for that

lighter too, so.

Yeah, well, OK.

All right, we have another food

recall.

You know how much I love a food

recall all.

Right.

I skipped the hamburger.

There's there's pounds and

pounds of hamburger being

recalled.

I skipped that one.

That's not a level 1, but this

one carries a death risk as FDA

escalates a recall to the

highest danger level possible.

We've reached level 1 do.

You want to guess what it is?

Mega Maid's gone.

Suck to blow.

What?

What is it?

It's a food item.

What the hell did you just say?

You ever see Spaceballs?

Yes.

Mega Maid.

Oh well, I was waiting on you to

give some type of food product.

Set course for ludicrous speed.

Thank you for the movie

references.

Somebody's got to watch movies

in here.

I wish I could.

I wish I could watch more Movies

Now than I do.

But oh, you know what?

Speaking of, I got to tell you

about ATV show I'm watching.

I'm fucking excited about.

It's really good.

Oh good, I always doing for a

new TV.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But the food that I think that

you're going after is it is it

is it meat based?

Let me ask you that.

It's not meat based.

No, it's not.

Is it in the can?

Is it in the can?

No.

OK.

It's not in the can.

All right.

Is it some type of vegetable?

No.

OK.

So not a vegetable, not a meat.

It's in a box.

It's in a box.

It's a cereal.

No.

Is it mashed potatoes?

Instant.

Potatoes, I said.

No vegetables.

But it's not, and it's not

cereal, and it's in a box.

Man, I'm struggling here.

What'd you got?

All right, the first, So this

came out in December, OK, It

involves 866 bags of cake mix.

Cake mix.

Cake mix from a Dallas based

distribution company called BC

Williams Bakery Service.

OK it has.

How'd they fuck this up?

Oh, it also includes 51 bags of

spice cake mix, 720 bags of

bread and roll mix, and 95 bags

of Swiss chocolate cake mix.

So almost 2000 bags of this 800.

And 66.

You said 866 of this and then

you said 700 of this.

Total.

Oh, so only 86?

OK, so.

But it's made of these four

things that I.

That I read somebody's got like

mixes.

May contain an undeclared milk

allergen that could trigger life

threatening reactions in people

with milk allergies.

Apparently that is one of the

worst allergies you can have is

an allergy.

A milk allergy.

Allergic to milk and there's a

lot of children that have it

that don't know it until they

have a problem.

And then they die.

Not always, but there is a

because of whatever this

allergen is.

If you let's say you're allergic

to milk and you eat this cake,

you could have an anaphylactic

episode and your lung, you know,

your throat closes up and you

die.

OK, so like, what are the odds

of this actually happening?

Well, if you eat the cake.

I mean, if I eat the cake, I

feel like I'm not going to die.

If you're allergic to the milk,

you would.

How do we know if I'm allergic

to the milk?

Well, you would know by now

you're a very old man.

So then I'd be fine.

Well, you know.

Well, no, because it doesn't say

on the box may contain milk

allergens.

So your wife.

But your wife makes a birthday

cake, OK.

Yeah, I instantly assume it's a

dairy product, but go ahead.

No, the cake mixes don't always

have dairy.

All cake mixes don't don't have

milk products in it.

I would just assume.

So you don't.

You wouldn't need any cake at

all.

If I had a dairy problem.

Right, but it's not dairy per

SE.

It's not like you're adding milk

to it.

The dry and some of them are

rolls.

If I had a severe milk allergy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you?

Look at the ingredients and they

go oh.

No milk.

No milk.

You could add you could add

water to it.

I don't think I'd mess with it,

but anyways, let's just say that

someone does all right, They

could die.

They would die because of the

allergic reaction to.

The cake and this bothered you?

This story.

It's a level 1, all the other

ones have not been level 1.

So OK, maybe you find some

plastic in your oatmeal or.

That's just a little more

crazier to me.

Maybe you get the razor blades,

something you know you.

Get the poops from eating the

The Dirty lettuce, right, you

know, But this you eat cake, you

die.

If you're allergic to milk.

Yes.

Right.

And how common is this allergen?

Phil, could you look it up?

OK.

Apparently it's it's severe

enough to where they gave it a

level one.

OK, you know I really don't

appreciate you poo poo in my

stores.

This is just not as as I

thought.

It's the build up that gets

people to listen.

If they don't like it once they

hear it, it's not.

The way that you were going, it

sounded like, oh, this is.

It could kill you.

Nothing else that they've

recalled lately could kill you.

If you had this milk allergy.

Yes, there are specific

conditions involved, OK.

It's not like I said, if they

shoot you and you're not

bulletproof, you could die.

That's a terrible analogy, but

OK, that's what I'm going with.

OK, fine, fine, alright.

Do you have a video?

I do not have a video today.

And you already read the

comments earlier.

Yeah, I had some funny I saw.

I did see some funny videos.

I don't know how they convey on

this show, to be honest.

I don't think.

It's one that 'cause we talked

about your videos yesterday, did

you how they don't convey on

this show?

Oh, really?

Sorry.

That's not very nice.

You weren't here.

It's kind of like level 1 food.

Fucking milk, right?

Yeah.

It doesn't convey at all.

I know it.

And here you are.

Like you can't have popcorn in

this room.

Yeah, that's a good point.

OK, next.

Which is really I like popcorn.

Every once in a while I almost

put it in my lunch box.

I'm like, oh, I can't eat it in

there, so I have to eat it

outside.

All right.

Well, go ahead.

All right now into cigars, the

Knuckles Sandwich 58 arriving at

retailers.

Except we have it.

We do.

How did we get something before

they even announced it?

We shipped not only this does

not happen.

This is incredible.

This is incredible.

Not only did we get it, I don't

even think we ordered it.

It just showed.

Up.

We didn't even order it.

Yeah, yeah.

But they knew.

They knew that we would say yes

to that.

Sure, right, Exactly.

I wouldn't say no.

I wasn't going to be like, no.

Send that back.

We didn't.

Would you send them?

Why would you send this without

approval, you know?

So maybe that's maybe that's the

way to do it with them.

We just don't order anything and

you guys just send us.

Everything just says fucking.

Unless Greg ordered it, but I

feel like Greg would have said

something to us.

You'd have been like, how many

can we get?

Right, Tom's coming.

What should I have is?

This going to be enough, you

know, Can we get more?

So it's the new limited edition

that celebrates Guy Fieri's 50th

birthday.

Apparently now they're doing one

for his birthday every year.

Yeah, that's how it's been

since.

I mean, well, yes, but I mean

they did the original 1 and

they're like, oh, 55 we're going

to do because he's 55.

It's a special number.

Do it birthday.

And they're like, well, that

went so well, we're going to do

it again.

You want to know what I think

Guy Fieri should do?

But shouldn't he do?

I think that he should make an

Lea limited edition short run

cigar and you should call it the

quad tear.

Yes, that would be good.

And it would we could have him

on a on crutches for the image.

Sounds more Matt Boothy.

Well, there's, there's a little

bit of Matt Booth and Guy Fieri.

I think.

You know the blonde hair, the

spikies.

He's got the necklace.

Did you see the commercial?

Yeah, it was funny.

Yeah, I think if you weren't

paying attention, you wouldn't

realize that that was wasn't

him.

Right until the end where they

make till he turn turns into the

guy, right?

We're going to find out.

His last name's not really

Fieri, just like Jonathan Drew

is not really Drew.

His last name isn't really

Fieri.

We're going to find that out,

I'm afraid.

Now everything.

Now I'm all upset about

everything because nobody's name

is what they say.

He didn't realize Jonathan

Drew's last name was not.

I thought it was.

Drew.

Everybody calls him JD.

Jonathan Drew.

Yeah.

Oh, apparently that's not his

name.

We'll talk about this later.

I like that everybody's excited

about the whole thing and I'm.

Talking about it the other day.

It's so funny to me, dude,

people are hilarious.

All right, this is the fourth

year for the limited edition

cigar, which began in 2023 with

the Knuckle Sandwich 55 that we

mentioned.

It's always the same cigar, they

just change the vitola.

And that makes a blend totally

different.

It does.

Yes, it could.

Yes, it could change the flavor,

yes, but the same thing we do

with the bears.

Yeah, I feel that's where they

got the idea.

You think so?

They got it from us.

I think so.

Copycats.

No, that what the whatever it's

called is the most sincerest

form of flattery, Imitation.

Imitation.

Thank you.

That's the word.

Well, I don't have a problem

with anybody imitating us, to be

honest.

I'm starting to see some more,

some more podcast people pop up

too.

I'm like, hey, man, go do it.

Go do it, please.

Right.

Getting back to the JD thing,

you know that I do know so that

some people are actually upset

about it.

Some retailers are upset.

They're terrified to speak out.

Why?

Because they are, they're, they

think that'll affect their

business.

I I don't know, and yet here we

are.

Here we are making fun of

everybody.

I'll come out to you just for

sport.

Why didn't you say those things?

How we were bored I'll.

Do it for fun.

I'll do it for fun, all right.

Well, it's got a Mexican San

Andreas rapper atop A Nicaraguan

binder and Phyllis cigars made

the San Latano factory in atall

Nicaragua and to Limited

production numbers have not yet

been disclosed.

Yeah, I mean the first one was

the best I think as far as the

size.

I have what the original?

One, it's like a shorter

robusto, like a robusto Gordo, I

think almost if I remember. 5

1/2 by 55 Robusto Gordo.

There you go.

Boom.

That one was probably the best

one.

What's?

6 by 56 Oval.

Yeah, that was too big.

My opinion?

And then a five and three

quarter by 55 was last year's.

It's close to the same, didn't

taste the same.

But no, it didn't taste the

same.

I know it was a different.

Blend.

It was a little bit rougher.

And then this cigar is a six and

a quarter by 54 Oval.

Oh.

Pressed.

So it's a box press.

Box pressed.

Man, I want to try that.

It's upstairs.

We.

Don't have any limb?

No, we did.

There's no way.

There's no way.

They all, Oh no, no, no way.

They just came in.

I know I sold another box today.

I want to try the cigar.

I think there's only one box

Lamb.

Oh, so there is some.

One I think it was 1 box.

So I'll reduce the quantities,

I'm going to take one.

It's already been done.

You reduce the quantities and

took them.

No, we had that, you know,

margin of error.

Oh, so it's zeroed out?

Box is already zeroed out.

We got fives in singles.

So it's just in store only to

purchase that?

Yes.

Or singles.

OK, so I'll I'll hijack.

I'm going to hijack a couple.

Just grab them for the show next

week I.

Don't want to spoil Phil.

Oh, so when Willie was here?

Yeah, You know, Phil went ahead

and he's like I said, hey, can

you grab me a cigar upstairs?

Sure, no problem.

He grabs San Andreas for me,

Postagna grabs one for Willie,

grabs one for himself.

And I'm like, wait a second.

Yeah, did I?

Tell you, I don't I don't

remember saying get for

everybody.

And so I go.

So where did these where are

these going?

Oh my Greg just house charged or

something.

I'm like, wait a but you we just

gave you a check.

You're the only one that gets

paid on the show.

You're the only one that makes

money.

Oh, shit.

Like, what are we doing?

What are we doing?

He's like, I always go ahead and

take this like, no, no.

Did you take it away from him?

No, I'm not that kind.

Of Guy 'cause there was one down

here on the table that's.

Probably the one that Willie

didn't smoke.

Oh yeah, it was on that table.

Yeah, no wait, it was on this

table.

Oh well, I had already had a

cigar at that point.

I.

Got you got.

You.

So Yeah.

God, Phil's is taking advantage.

It's not right.

We'll put on his tab all three

of them.

All right, he uses the same

blend, like we said, his

previous releases and blah blah.

Box press, which should be

pretty good, Yes, like I I bet

you that's going to be a good

cigar.

I like Espinosa cigars.

Me too.

And it was the Alpha dog's

birthday this week.

It was.

I texted him but he was in

Nicaragua.

Oh, is he in Nicaragua?

He was in.

He just came back.

Did you?

See the video we did.

The video, yeah.

No, he did.

I think it was in the video.

His hair is my color now.

Like Gray?

Yeah, like all like he doesn't

have hair in his head, doesn't

he?

Doesn't he shave his head?

Maybe it was somebody else then.

I only saw it briefly.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know.

Yeah, he doesn't really have

hair.

Right, So how could that have

been him?

Don't know, maybe it's AI.

You never know these things.

You know who's big in AI right

now?

Island Gym, AI, everything.

He's doing a great job.

He's making videos now and

everything.

A island gym is what we call

them.

A yeah, a island gym.

Hey, Price, you said at $18.00.

A box of 10s a $180.

That's pretty good.

All right, a new cigar is coming

out from asylum.

Uh oh, the Cle mongrel.

And is the first mention of the

actual dates of the PCA.

There it is.

And it's wrong.

It's and it's wrong.

I believe it's off a day.

OK, I'll as you're telling the

story, I'll Fact Check it.

All right, The Asylum Arabian

Nights coming to PCA 2026.

Sealy Cigar Company has teased

one of its upcoming launches for

the 2026 PCA convention to trade

show the Asylum Arabian Nights.

But they're not telling you

anything about this cigar.

No details, OK, Except they have

a launch party planned May 27th

to the 31st in Marrakech,

Morocco.

We should go.

Yeah, I agree.

Let's they're.

Inviting retailers.

We have nothing going on. 27th

to the 31st.

Yeah, now we're free that

weekend.

Yeah, let's just go.

They're planning a multi day

event for retailers to attend

and it is expected to be the

first time that anyone will be

able to smoke the cigar.

So we go and try the cigar.

Sounds like a write off to me

buddy.

It's unclear if there will be a

way for consumers to attend.

No consumers can.

No consumers are allowed.

How many people are going to fly

to Marrakech, Morocco to go try

this cigar?

0.

Well, Jay Davis, probably.

Will.

I don't think Jay Davis will.

No, no, he likes to travel.

He doesn't like to sell Pasania,

I can say that much.

Maybe he likes to sell CLEI

don't know.

No, no, he's a Puente guy.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yes, I know.

OK, so when's the date?

Because this says dates for PCA

are April 17th through twenty,

26th, April April 17th through

20th.

This I I didn't grab the date

but they say 18th.

That makes sense.

But that says 17th.

Maybe the first day is not like

the trade show floor opening.

That's like the seminars or

whatever.

Maybe, yeah.

And then a story we covered

yesterday, they called the TPE

the PCA.

Half we all messed that up.

Yep.

Did you tell Charlie?

'Cause they said this cigar will

come out at the PCA late March

and the TP ES in late March.

See, that's what happens when

the shows get close together.

People make mistakes.

They'll get confused.

Yeah.

But then the next line it said

then it will be no it's going to

be released the 13th something

of April.

So it was J Rs new cigar.

Apparently it's only a TPE

release, unless they've got the

whole thing wrong.

Sounds like a bit of a train

wreck.

Could be cigar guys are going to

the TPE.

Yeah, they're they're paid to

go.

Yeah, they're paid to go.

Why don't people pay us to go?

Places I'm not going to TPE.

What if they paid us?

You wouldn't go.

No.

Why?

Because you can go.

If they pay.

I got too many things going on

dude.

I'm trying.

But they're paying is for the

show.

OK, so you go.

You can go.

I want to go by myself.

There's no fun take, Phil.

Like I said, I.

Don't want to go by myself,

that's no fun.

Take Phil.

Like I said, I don't want to go

by myself.

That's no fun.

Take.

Phil, like I said, I don't want

to go by myself.

That's no fun.

OK, whatever you say, You

remember what happens when he

goes to trade shows.

No one loves me, please give me

cigars, right?

He disappears you.

Know Well, it sounds like he's

already getting overly confident

about this show.

And then comes back with an

order form.

He's trying to book people and

stuff.

Hey, trying to book his own

guest, what's up with that?

Like, hey dude.

I have that kind of kind of pull

on this show.

Guess we're about ready for that

come to Jesus conversation.

We're going to need that check.

Back You ever see Dark Knight?

Do you feel in charge?

All right, the 26th Habanos

Festival in Cuba been postponed.

Cancelled.

Postponed.

Because Zhang Wang, Zheng Ching,

Ching Ching.

It's been postponed because the

conditions in Cuba are not

friendly for this type of event

and they don't have anything set

up because it's very fancy.

It's not.

It's not friendly.

No.

Communist country is not

friendly so.

They're having problems right

now.

They don't have any gas or oil.

They have no gas or oil.

Well, those apparently those

tankers we took for Venezuela.

It was Cuba's.

Yeah, it was Cuba's, apparently.

I heard that.

The other day.

Oh man.

Hey, can we get the boat?

Now it's coming here we're.

Neighbors.

It'll be fine.

Yeah, like Trump's on the deck

playing pickleball and going no,

this is my boat now.

Oh, my God.

It's a big boat.

It's the best boat.

It's full of oil and it's mine.

It's the greatest boat.

I love this boat so much.

It's we're going to call this

boat Trump.

The Trump 2, the two, the three

and the four, they're all right

here.

We're.

Going to name it after me.

It's going to be amazing.

So they didn't cancel it, it's

just postponed with no date

insight.

But it's not cancelled, it's

postponed.

Right, it won't.

Return till conditions in Cuba

are better and in an event of

this size can be helped.

Like having gas and oil.

Having gas and oil and

apparently food.

Food's important.

Food's important, really.

They ration everything there and

when you go to the store.

I thought you were going to say

something about like the whole.

Cigar industry.

Yeah.

No, no, it's not that.

It's just the economy.

Is the economy is sucks and

nobody wants to.

Work an economy that was broken,

we broke it further right.

Got it.

Right.

And it's not bad enough we

embargoed the entire country.

Now we're taking things before

they get there.

If I'm a country and I want to

attack the United States, I just

shut down the Internet.

Watch everybody freak out.

How can they shut down our

Internet?

Cut the cable in the under the

water.

Pull the plug.

Yeah, just unplug it.

Unplug the one thing it's done.

My age group would be fine.

We started out without the

Internet.

I think that you would be the

one that would struggle the most

without it.

I had to be bored.

Exactly.

But boredom's not going to, I

mean ruin me.

Maybe you got a panic attack

because of it.

No, that wouldn't give me a

panic attack.

No, no.

OK.

All right, oh, we're going to be

a little early today.

All right, time for the

industry's favorite game.

What's the score?

You didn't do it, Phil.

Oh, I'm very sorry.

Now you have to do it on your

own.

OK, what's the score?

There you go.

Bing bong, Bing bong.

All right.

Today's Cigar.

January 27th, 2023.

Charlie Minato.

The Knuckle Sandwich Limited

Edition.

Nicaragua review.

The Knuckle Sandwich Chef

Special because we got we got a

knuckle sandwich before it was

coming out and it was our

friend's birthday, so we're

doing 1 of.

His in honor of all of these.

Things honor of all of these

things today's oh I keep

thinking the show comes out on

Friday.

Maybe we'll be out on Monday.

The 1st show for the next week

is the Knuckle Sandwich Show.

Alright, OK, let's go.

Oh, you want me to go?

You guys go first.

I did my part.

I said what it was.

Phil, you want me to go first?

No, I want you to go first

'cause I'm just going to copy

you.

Be close to you copy.

OK, I'm going to say.

Oh, by the way, Alex got it

right on the money yesterday.

Did he nailed it?

He.

Nailed it and I even accused him

of cheating and he swears he

didn't.

All right, that's good.

We'll say 89.

Duh.

I don't know 80. 8 Get that?

Get that brain going. 88.

OK, Good job.

Can we have a a shirt with a

cartoon, his face with a mask on

and just says rum rum?

Next to his face.

Gotta turn his brain on.

It's coming.

It's coming out of his ear.

The sound's coming out of his.

Ear turning his brain turning

his brain on.

All right, this is a knuckle

sandwich chef special from

Nicaragua factories, a San

Litano factory Rappers,

Ecuadorian Habano Rosado

Binder's Nicaraguan filler's

Nicaraguan length is 6 1/2 by

52.

It's a perfecto $12.50, came out

in 2022.

They smoked. 3 cigars, 87. 8585.

OK, all right, clue #1 The cigar

delivers a rich, full profile

throughout, layered with

earthiness, red and black

pepper, cocoa, cedar dough like

notes, nuttiness and even subtle

sweetness.

Sugar water, peanut butter

cookie.

The strength.

And it sounds like a delicious

cigar.

The strength and body

consistently match the intensity

of the flavors without

overwhelming nicotine.

Hey, when they overwhelm

nicotine.

Such a nice man.

Not overwhelming nicotine.

I'm going to go back.

I'm going to go 89890. 87.

Clue #2 Each third offers

noticeable shifts, especially

the clear transition into the

final third, where red pepper

fades and nuttier Dough Ford

flavors take over.

Retro Hales provide pronounced,

identifiable flavors, adding

depth and engagement.

Man, it sounds like he really

likes a cigar.

Sure does.

So far so good.

Charlie loves this thing.

It's nothing.

Tastes like peanut butter

cookies.

It was.

Amazing.

I'm going to go 90.

Oh yeah, But you know he knows.

Say teriyaki.

You know how I say if you don't

say teriyaki, you're not good

for Charlie?

Oh goodness. 88.

Clue #3 Multiple cigars

experience cracks at the foot,

unraveling caps, tight draws,

declining smoke production, WAVY

burn lines, and repeated touch

ups with one cigar going out

completely.

Oh my word.

Performance was inconsistent and

required frequent correction 22.

Right.

I mean, that's going to hurt it.

That's all the stuff he hates.

I'm.

Going to drop down to 85.

Oh, 805A good number.

That's how far I can count up to

anything past that that.

Was year I graduated high

school.

Oh yeah, that was.

You weren't born yet.

That was the year I was born.

No, I don't know what year I was

born.

I'm very dumb.

Oh, OK, I.

Was very, I was very young.

I don't remember. 88 Still good

cigar. 88 OK.

All right, final thought, yes,

my condolences to the non cigar

smoker who is a big fan of Guy

Fieri, finds out Guy Fieri has a

cigar line, buys a cigar and

then smokes it.

That person is probably in for a

rough time.

It's not that the cigar is bad,

it's just decidedly not.

For someone who isn't a regular

consumer of medium to full

cigars.

This is particularly true given

the shape makes the initial inch

a bit more challenging than your

standard Toro, and because I

find most non cigar smokers want

to puff on cigars way quicker

than even an average consumer.

Flavor and body wise, Chef

Special is very much what I

think of when I tried to

describe a classic AJ Fernandez

profile.

Big, bold, and brash.

It's got nuance, but that nuance

is wrapped in a package that has

a ton of power.

There are times in which you

want to enjoy a cigar first

thing in the morning so you can

taste all the delicate nuances.

And then there are times in

which you've just consumed half

a bottle of red wine and a bone

and rib eye or the Guy Fiera

Universe trash can nachos and

need something to cut through

your big meal.

This is squarely in the ladder.

So is he saying it's after the

nachos?

You're saying that it's tough.

You're saying that it's rougher

than it's a rough cigar.

Yes, Yeah.

I like a rough cigar.

Well rough for your non

cigargar.

Right, right.

Yeah, non regular cigar smoker.

But if you like Boulder cigars,

it's probably good.

However, it's going to get hurt

because of the burn stuff, so

I'm going to stick 85 Phil.

I got to go 92 good cigar.

I don't care what Charlie say, I

like cigar all.

Right, buddy, what did you say?

I said 85 and he said 90. 292,

yeah.

It's an 85.

Not only did I sandbag you, but

I nailed it.

And he nailed it.

Look at that, and my name isn't

Alex Gonzalez.

How do you like me now?

He's been beat by everybody.

Did he beat Willie?

It was one and one I did coops.

Oh, I heard you did the second

one.

Coops.

Yeah.

Coops What?

Coop reviewed the SPC.

Oh, did he?

Yeah.

Oh, so I added that on.

What did he give us?

I think it was like a 87 or

something like that.

It was, it was, it wasn't

favorable.

Oh, was it?

And not, well, you the way that

it sounded, it sounded like it

was a good cigar.

And then like, he kind of added

some things you're like.

The cigar's bad for the

industry, no?

No, you get the.

Cigar.

Everybody shouldn't like it.

Felt like there were feelings

involved and that's how I took

it.

Now I could, I could just be

misinterpreted.

Because, you know, he's

completely unbiased.

Yeah, he's completely unbiased,

right?

I mean, it's alleged.

To the point where he says he

is.

Yeah, he's allegedly completely.

You have to say you are.

You're probably not.

He's possibly unbiased, right?

Maybe.

Definitely kind of, sort of.

Maybe.

Who knows?

Yeah, but if you have to keep

saying that, you're not.

No, who knows.

Who knows?

OK, so.

I mean just because the

background of his show wins

cigar of the year every year and

it has nothing to do with it.

But I I appreciate the fact that

he reviewed it.

Well, if I had somebody I didn't

like, I would want to review

their cigar and give it A and,

and so so review.

It's still attention.

Well, as far as we're concerned,

yeah, I'll take it.

Like when he tells people we're

bad for the industry.

I don't care.

Yeah, but he didn't see.

Anything talking about us?

But he didn't say that publicly.

Well, we made it public.

Yeah, true.

OK.

Everything is public.

OK, all right, so anything else

to add?

Oh, I do have one.

I have two things to add #1

Copper Canyon, New Haven IN.

Thank you so much for becoming

our newest Postonia account, now

carrying Postonia San Andreas.

So you're in New Haven IN, is

that Joe?

Yeah, yeah.

Check out Copper Canyon.

They also have a podcast.

Yes they do.

They he's he just started a

podcast.

Go watch that too.

Oh, yeah.

Go check it out.

See what?

See what he's doing.

He wants to come on the show.

He wants us to call in.

We'll figure that out.

We'll get you on the show now.

Come on, the show that I started

watching, Oh yes, that I thought

like for the first episode I

started to watch and I gave up

on it.

And then I asked Grok what's the

best show 'cause that's where

we're at currently.

You know, football's over.

And I'm like, hey, I always ask,

give me, give me your top five.

Usually I'm watching a couple of

them already.

And it was a night of the Seven

Kingdoms.

What's that on?

It's on HBO Max.

Oh I don't get that 10.

Is that the the prequel to The

Thing?

Yeah, long before and it's and

the way that it starts, it was

like, I mean like he's taking a

dump like and it shows his ass

shooting poop out of like right

next to a tree.

And I'm like, I don't know.

Like in the 1st 5 minutes.

Yeah, yeah.

So like.

Yeah, I would have went.

So the first, like the, so I got

into like the first half of the

episode, it was 15 minutes long

and I'm like, that was 15

minutes into a 30 minute long

show.

Like I don't know, I don't know.

And then I went back to it and

it's good.

So this is before the Dragons.

Yes, yes.

And, and it's very, and it's,

it's serious.

It's like, it's like Game of

Thrones light.

It's about 30 to 40 minutes.

The dialogue is manageable and

not extremely involved and it's

more, it's definitely more

entertaining, right so.

Like comical, entertaining.

There is some comical moments.

It's it's good.

It's really good.

You know, I when I finished the

last episode, I was like, hell

yeah.

So far, there's four.

Oh, so it's a weekly thing?

They're going to play another

one next week.

Yeah, OK.

It's not like already been out.

No, I gotcha.

But it's good.

It's easy to sit and just burn

through them, 'cause I burn

through, you know, I mean,

they're, they're 3530 minutes.

Yeah, 30 to 40 minutes.

Yeah, I was all caught up and

one day I was like, this is

awesome.

And then I'm like, Oh no,

there's no more.

Yeah, 4 shows two hours.

Yeah, exactly.

Just like watching a regular

movie.

Right, so you should check it

out.

You'll like I.

Don't have HBO?

Well, you got to figure it out,

man.

I don't know what to tell you.

Steal somebody's login.

Michael, what's your login?

I'll give it to you.

It's Greg's.

Oh, there you go.

Perfect.

So all right.

And he won't be watching.

He's on vacation.

Yeah, well, you know, he's in

the mountains or something.

What a life.

What a life, Anything else to

add?

On the 25th of February I will

be at Northport Cigars in

Northport, Florida from 1:00

till people stop showing up 1

to. 5:00 or 1:00 to 4:00 it's.

Scheduled 1:00 to 5:00, but did

you?

Say that.

Leave it at 1:00 to 5:00.

Well, I don't want people that

go, I can't come before 5 not to

come.

Well, we'll have them get there,

get there before 5, get there

before.

What if they're not there at

5:00 and you there's nobody

there and you decide to leave

and they get there at six and

then you know what I mean?

Well, I said I gave my.

Didn't give a definite ending.

Yeah, so you better so.

One until people stop showing.

At 5, some people stop showing.

One time.

Well, yeah, one to five I think

is reasonable.

All right.

One to five.

I'll be there for one to five,

OK.

Perfect.

Any longer?

OK.

All right, Phil, you have

anything?

You have anything else to add

you want?

To plug anything Phil guest you

invited on the show, you

changing the name of the show or

something?

No, I, I'm going to walk back

any of my invites because that's

not my role in in this job here.

So I'm very sorry.

I'm going to find a a habitable

place on the moon for me to stay

and be safe from the rest of the

universe and keep myself away

from sharks and alligators and

gravity.

I.

Stay away from bears.

I hope gravity stays.

All right, Phil, Thanks so much,

buddy.

Yeah, I guess.

That's it.

All right, guys.

Thanks.

We got to go.

Thanks so much.

Bye 52 minutes minus my phone.

Call it.

Was only a minute.

It was a.

Show Notes

On todays show we have a travel ban from the US government,  No more Gravity in August! A extreme Level 1 deadly food recall then in cigars Cuba is shutting down!  A New cigar that we some how have before its announced  and hold on we are going to the Middle East!!  All this and a what’s the score!!