ACHP Episode 470 "You Said You Moved The Bodies?"
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I'm I'm recording whenever
you're ready.
Welcome to a Cigar Hustler
podcast episode 469.
OH.
Pretty.
Sure, it's 469.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and
with me today is Phil.
I didn't get to see Preston
Mcguffey.
Over.
In engineering and then as my Co
host Mikey I heart Preston
Stefan Kevitch today around here
is Preston day.
Everybody gets sucks.
I know he was.
So Palmer gets so jaded.
Jaded is he doing?
He's very nice.
Isn't there some game going on
where every time you say the
word someone drinks?
Every time I mention his name,
they take a drink.
Man, they're gonna be swashed
quickly.
Sloshed right in the today's
show.
We have a new medical alert
that's gonna upset Phil over
there.
Farts are making science
history.
You said you moved the bodies.
And then in cigars, another tax
hike, Rocky Patel jumps on the
horse and a new shop opens
abroad.
And then we have a wrap up.
Then we wrap up the day with a
What's the score?
But first today starts Ramadan,
Ramadan, Ramadan, Ramadan.
So do our Muslim fans.
Ramadan Kareem.
Today is also Today is also the
first day of Chinese New Year,
so Ma Dao Jing Gong.
Oh, really?
And to our Catholic listeners
starting Lent, may you have a
fruitful Lent.
Yes, Lent.
Do you give up something for
Lent, Michael?
I'm probably going to give up
something for Lent.
Doesn't it start today?
Don't you already have to have
it picked out?
Exactly.
It starts tomorrow.
Oh, the 18th?
Yeah.
Oh well, what are you?
Going to today is because we're
recording on Tuesday.
It's this is considered Fat
Tuesday, which is something
else.
You're right, we're going to
have Picazzi's or whatever those
things are going.
Maybe I'll give up ice cream.
I hate giving up ice cream.
Do you eat that much ice cream?
I'm.
Not to say what a thing to give
up like is that hard?
And they give up something like
cigars.
Oh.
You think I couldn't give up
cigars?
No, you could.
You've done before for health
reasons.
Yeah, that stuff doesn't bother
me.
I could give up cigars and a
heartbeat.
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Mr. Palmer is not feeling well
today.
I'm sick.
So this one I haven't responded
yet to From T Money.
Do you think Drew State will sue
Placencia for using the term
barn smoker?
Oh.
That's not a good place.
I had funny.
It's not my case, It's funny.
Got a giggle out of Philly.
From where you're on, you're on
episode 470 it looks like buddy.
Is it 470?
Yeah, it said 470.
I thought it was 460. 9 Nope
'cause I said yesterday, right?
Yeah, so L Wolpy said.
The more Phil talks, the more he
emulates the model of Florida
Man is.
His name?
A Woppy or a whoopie?
Because I know this person.
Yeah, Woppy.
I would say that it's Woppy.
Yeah.
Oh, Whoopi.
Yeah.
At NARS, Garz says Phil
understood the Olympic sex
numbers as soon as he thought
about it in terms of being a
buffet.
Me too, man, Me too.
Food makes math easy, Bing Bong.
Bing bong.
By the way, they went through
those 10,000 condoms in three
days.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Boom.
Kratos 899 says Phil and Neil
deGrasse Tyson should do a
podcast about space.
Wow.
That's awesome.
Unbelievable.
And then we get it from episode
468.
Rooks Coding says what kind of
cigars does Palmer smoke?
You read that?
Yes.
She finds that I did.
Yeah.
All right.
Perfect.
They're assuming I'm some type
of marijuana cigar.
They're saying something like
that, yeah.
Because I did the no gravity
story.
Hey, if you want the chance of
us reading your comment out
loud, comment below on this
episode.
And hey, maybe we'll we'll.
Bring if it's funny.
Lots of Phil comments to see the
fans.
Phil, Phil, you're a big deal.
See the fans out there?
You're.
A big deal like the idiot Phil.
We need a Bing.
Wild idiot.
We need a Bing Bong shirt.
I need to get a picture of him
in the mask, right?
I'm going to cartoon style him
like I did BDP.
There we go.
And it's going to say Bing Bong.
Bing bong.
Perfect, I'm in.
Smoking a cigar.
Smoking a cigar.
I think that'd be absolutely
epic.
It would be.
Yeah.
All right, on with the show.
We have a health alert.
OK.
Facial ringworm.
Facial ringworm.
It's swarming through.
It's a sexually transmitted
fungal infection making
headlines.
It's going rampantly through the
male gay community.
Oh no.
I wonder, I wonder.
Facial ringworm.
I wonder.
The only known fungal STI that
causes ringworm like rashes in
some very unfortunate places in
the genitals, the buttocks and
the face.
Oh my.
The pictures were horrific.
That they showed.
That's apparently it's worst in
Minnesota.
They're reporting the largest
known US outbreak right now. 13
confirmed 27 suspected cases
since July.
Minnesota's just getting one
thing after the other.
You know the Somalian daycare?
Oh, I tried, yeah.
Now, yeah, you don't have to
worry about pink eye anymore.
You have to worry about face
ringworm.
Facial.
Ringworm.
Isn't that the reason why you
have that mask?
To prevent the facial ringworm?
Wow.
Well wow, I love it when he
does.
Definitely not.
He's like, I'm not going to
engage.
Do not engage.
Do not engage.
Do not respond.
Phil, just to know if you have
it, the symptoms are it's itchy,
it's a round rash, it's scaly,
patches, super inflammatory and
can scar if not treated.
It's treatable with oral
antifungals, but it can take up
to three months to heal.
Yeah, fungus is tough to get rid
of, especially ringworm.
Yeah.
I didn't realize ringworm was a
sexually transmitted disease.
I don't.
Maybe this one is a sexual.
The ringworm is maybe, yeah.
Because I mean, realistically,
you know, you know, you always
heard about it with like,
wrestling mats and stuff like
that and stuff, right?
Yeah.
So that's not sexually
transmitted, that's wrestling.
That's the kind of wrestling
you're doing.
Yeah, well, if you're doing
wrestling with your clothes on,
you ain't doing what's actually
in transmitted disease.
Yeah, you're not farting in
people's faces, Palmer.
So.
You know what in people's faces.
Farting.
Well, if you are, the University
of Maryland are like talk to you
they're.
Just jumping into the next one.
Jumping into the next door,
Well, I mean, we've, yeah, it's
a good segue.
Yeah, perfect.
Palmer really doesn't feel good.
Farts are on the move, you know?
Yeah, we're gonna finish the
show in 15 minutes.
Farts on the move.
University of Maryland
researchers designed smart
underwear to track and measure
farts, and they're seeking
volunteers to wear.
The trajectory.
They're more concerned with how
often the the actual content of
your farting.
The frequency of flatulence yes
revealed.
The Department of Cell and
Biology and Molecular Genetics
LED a team of scientists in
creating a small device that
snaps into your underwear and
uses electrochemical sensors to
track intestinal gas.
Wow.
Now if you if you have a high
fiber diet, you qualify to be
one of the test subjects.
Why do we want to know this?
Hold on, I said.
Here in a minute, somewhere.
Maybe this is a test for
Metamucil?
You should know this off the RIP
you're.
There's a lot of details in all
these stories, Michael.
It's hard to remember
everything.
Very tired, huh?
Any sick I?
Feel so you're just.
Teleperson No, I'm I'm reading
the details as I go along.
The average person farts 32
times a day.
Wow.
I'm definitely about.
As much at or as much as 59.
Are you at 59?
Probably close.
You think, I think that you
break that barrier.
In the morning time when I get
up out of the bed, yeah, that's
like peak hour.
That's peak.
That's peak flatulence for you.
That's consistent blasting away.
You.
Just get up and just start
ripping them as you're walking
out of the room.
I've noticed like this whole
farting thing is like all out in
the open now with everything.
Have you seen the thing with the
celebrities where they do the
the heat Cam?
No.
And like, like the celebrities
will be up there singing on
stage and they have the heat Cam
on them and they just like
release gas.
I've.
Seen the heat Cam footage but
not for celebrities.
Well, singers like it's out.
Of no singers you're talking
about, like Adele's up there
singing on page.
And I was like, there's this
puff of smoke comes out of butt.
That's so wrong.
That's like a violation of
privacy.
It's hilarious, to be honest.
Like, of course they do.
Who's going to stop them?
Somebody's just tracking this
now, Like, yeah.
I've seen her like, you know,
they shoot like a city.
You know, people are walking
down the street and people are
just ripping as they walk.
But we don't know who they are,
right?
I mean, I don't want to know.
Adele's ripping farts up there
while she's singing you.
Can just do it on the red carpet
and when they fart you can hear
you farted.
That sounds like a whole social
media page.
Who farts in The Who farts on
the red carpet?
It's.
Probably the whole world.
Right.
Yeah, you farted.
I think we're doing this all
wrong.
We should be focusing on the
flatulence of the celebrities.
Right, We know everything else
about him now, right?
So now the guy with the infrared
camera has to follow everybody.
The 59 or a 32 or.
When did he fart?
Or a four.
You could be a four, but 4 is
very low and.
Then you can see people's
reactions, how they react to it.
Oh, somebody's standing behind
her.
The the curly's going.
Yeah, Oh my.
Wow.
They want to see how often you
fart.
What they're in why, I have no
idea.
They're not saying why, they
just want to know how many times
you fart.
I nominate Phil for this
experiment, I figure.
Phil will be perfect for this.
Do they pay?
No.
It's a free thing, yes.
I'm not in for free they.
Don't want to fart for free?
You got to fart anyway.
All they're doing is put a
little thing in your underwear.
You don't get to be in my
underwear for free.
See that?
There's a price.
That's right.
That's why he wants to go to
Maine.
Yeah, so he can sell.
He can sell or Colorado.
It's going really well from what
I heard yesterday on the news.
Colorado's wide open.
What kind of news do you watch?
He watches the best news.
I got news.
I gotta tell ya, when you
weren't here, he covered a
gravity thing and we released
that show that clip yesterday.
It's got like it's approaching
100,000 views already on
Instagram.
For gravity.
Yeah, no gravity.
Oh yeah.
When?
When?
On August?
Whatever.
Yeah, Yep, gonna be no gravity
for like 7.3 seconds.
And like some of like they're
they're.
As everybody scared.
There have been some comments
where people are nice and there
have been some comments where
somebody called him Timo, Jon
Stewart.
Oh, I saw that.
Was that what that was?
Yeah.
Oh, that's that's yeah.
There's there was some, there
were some very aggressive
comments on the Instagram, on my
Instagram page.
So I happily responded to those.
Yeah, you know, morons.
You guys are idiots.
I'm like.
It's not like I did the study,
I'm just covering the news.
Yeah, and you, you know, but you
were convinced that this could
happen.
Well, sure, yeah, why not?
That's why they said that.
Anything can happen.
They were initially scared and
then when they looked it up.
You know what?
Then they were probably like,
oh, maybe you're. 65 feet in the
air you can type on your little
phone.
He was right.
Somebody wrote I instantly I
could just I googled this and
found that it was debunked.
I'm going to write, I haven't
gotten to that comment yet, but
I'm going to write what's
Google, you know, little stuff
like that.
Just keep it interesting.
But it's hard when there's over
100.
I as soon as I turn on my phone,
there's a hundred comments.
Don't worry, I'll get all of
them.
I'll do as as as my Boy T money
has tracked.
I'll do it just for sport.
You know.
All right, a Clearwater company
is suing the city after graves
found buried beneath their
property.
It is a.
Indian Burial.
Ground Resource Company is suing
the City of Clearwater after
more than 300 graves were
discovered beneath its office.
Wow.
They were told that they moved
them.
Yeah, we got.
We know they're they're gone.
How do you how would you know it
was beneath their office?
Yeah.
They were digging a hole and
found one.
It's illegal.
It's illegal to dig a hole.
No, it's illegal to dig a hole
but dead body.
Well, they said that the bodies
were.
Gone.
Oh they sold the land so no, you
can relocate a cemetery.
Wait, how?
But there's a slab there.
How would you?
Well, I imagine this is very
old.
It's Saint Matthew's Baptist
Church Cemetery used to be
there, and this company bought
the land in 2004.
Nobody's coming around anymore.
Let's move these out of here.
Right.
Why is my cell phone not
working?
There's a really good land.
Would you just scoop these
people up and sell it?
Did they realize something was
wrong when the coffee mug flew
across the table?
Right.
No kidding.
That's what happened to
Poltergeist.
Right.
Was there was there a TV that
just had static playing and.
Some little girl just
disappeared into the TV.
Some weird looking old lady
walks in and goes across all
their children into their life.
Oh my.
God, Clearwater spent $237,000
offending this case 'cause you
think they would have just went
and moved the bodies.
If you lived in a house, yeah,
where something like really,
really creepy happened, right?
Like where you know poltergeist
like Indian not.
Just see something but like
something moved like from the
movie.
Yeah, like something flew across
the room or something, right?
Or your tequila bottle had a
live worm in it or something,
right?
What would you stay?
Why would you stay?
If it was once.
You would stay.
I think I'd say once, but if it
was like in the Poltergeist
movie where like the stakes
crawling across the counter and
it blows up with worms coming
out of it and stuff, I'd I'd
leave.
If the stake crawled across the
counter and the worms blew up
out of it, that would be the
point where I would pack my
stuff and leave.
But if you heard voices.
That I'd call that Monday
because I hear voices all the
time.
Heard boys.
Oh, in your head.
Or in your house.
Sometimes in my head.
OK, they'll open the door in
case we have to run.
First of all, if I'm hearing any
of this, I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.
House, we're quite aware of
yourself.
I haven't gotten to.
He would leave.
He would leave the family
behind.
I was build, I was building up
to that.
Because.
I know what your response is
going to be.
Yeah, I'm out of there.
So if you have a poltergeist or
some type of specific, some type
of a being, but whatever in your
house.
Yeah, I'm.
I'm gone.
You're out.
Yeah, OK.
Do you leave the the women and
children or do like I?
Don't know I'm leaving.
They should leave too, but hey,
whatever.
That's if they want to stay,
they can stay.
It will tell them that they're
leaving, that you're leaving.
If they want.
Daddy's going to go if you guys
don't want to come with.
Me.
Yeah.
Would you inform them that you
were departing?
Yeah, as I'm leaving the house,
I'm yelling out I'm leaving.
I'm leaving.
As I'm in the car in my pajamas.
Right.
Is there anything you take with
you in fear of bringing bringing
the spirits?
Oh yeah, you could take it.
With you or do or do you bring
everything thing and the spirits
won't come it's just the house.
Nah, I can start over.
Start over.
Yeah.
Why risk it?
Yeah, that's what I figured.
Yeah, right, 'cause they get
attached to things.
Yeah, yeah, maybe the new couch
you got used is got somebody
died on it or something.
Yeah, if the dog starts flying
around in the house, do you
leave the dog?
Yeah, dog too.
Yeah, I get a new dog.
The dog.
You leave everything, he leaves
everything.
I know you're partial to your
dogs, Palmer.
Yeah, I wouldn't leave my dog.
Dogs are.
Coming.
I'm not super partial to my
dogs.
How about the street cat?
You bringing the cat?
No thinking the cat will be in
the car first.
I'm going to make excuses to
leave the cat the.
Cat's possessed.
That that cat's going to drive
the car.
Come on, I know how to drive.
Get in.
I learned on the street.
Roads.
Where we're going, we don't need
roads, OK?
Oh, we thought our house we
lived in back over there was
haunted.
But I mean we just saw things
and heard things.
We never nothing, never
furniture, never moved or
anything.
Right.
What did you hear?
You'd hear voices and stuff and
then the neighbors would tell
you like, like one of the
bedrooms.
I think we talked before one of
the bedrooms.
The lock had been reversed on
the door and the neighbors told
us they had some type of they
had a child that had some type
of disability and they kept her
locked in the room.
That's terrible.
I know 'cause when, when we saw
something, we would see it down
at the end of that hall and it
would be a little girl.
First of all, it is terrible,
but it's also scary.
Scary.
Yeah, so when I used to do pest
control, I went into the house
one time and there was a room
like that.
There was a kid in it and the
first thought of my mind was I'm
not going anywhere.
In this room.
Yes, hello.
Can you spray in the room in the
back please?
Just unlock the door, let
yourself in.
Yeah, the the child has been
instructed to stand in the
middle of the room as you spray.
No, he won't bite you.
It's fine.
Could you imagine he like, you
go in that room and be like I
spray him.
Kids got long ratty hair.
He's got nails.
He comes in like Hannibal
Lecter, where he's got the mask
on, He's wrapped up in the
standing there in the straight
jacket.
No, the only thing that like
could pop in my head was what's
that?
What's that one movie?
The really ugly guy?
Is it the man with the iron
mask?
He wasn't ugly.
The man with the iron.
Mask.
No.
What was the one?
That was the one.
There was the one movie where
the guy was like really ugly.
It's an older movie.
Yeah, and he was in.
Like his face?
No, his face was all messed up
and stuff.
Yeah.
Elephant Man.
Goonies.
Well, it was kind of like
Goonies, but this guy's face was
longer.
Yeah, Yeah.
Anyways, kind of like that.
You're talking about monster
like the the the movie monster.
Oh, I think that maybe the guy
the guy had a legitimate
disability with.
She's a singer.
Cher.
Cher, thank you.
Yeah, Oh.
Mask.
OK, Mask.
Mask.
Her son had that disease, Yeah.
Right where the That's all we
could picture that was in this
room, Skullgroom.
I was like, Oh my God.
You're a terrible person.
So you didn't spray in the room?
No.
You'd like stick the wand under
the door and spray.
No, not going anywhere.
Ever have to go back to that
house again?
No, I told, I told the the
owner.
I was like, dude, I'm never
going back to the house.
Did you tell them that you
sprayed the room and you didn't?
No, no, you just said that I.
Put on the paperwork.
I did not spray that room.
Oh, you flat out said it.
Yeah, OK.
So I go did not go into the
locked room with crazy child
inside.
So.
So you're not So then you're not
affiliated with the graveyard
movers then?
Because if you would have noted
that you left the bodies.
Yeah, I'm not.
Bodies left, tombstones moved.
Anything like that?
Yeah.
How do you defend us in court?
You know they're digging up
skeletons.
We didn't know they were there.
Yeah, well, but who do you sue?
This was 2004.
This is they're.
Suing the city, the city sold
them the land.
The city didn't city sold them
the land and they put an office
building on it and apparently
they went to plant a tree and
they're like, hey, hey, this is
here's a dead person.
This true?
It was a famous black church, I
guess back years ago, right?
So it was that type of cemetery.
Oh man, I.
Don't know about.
It doesn't sound good for the
city it.
Could have been it could have
been unmarked graves.
They didn't know either.
Maybe.
What if they've uncovered 300 of
these things?
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not like, yeah,
they just found one.
That's a hell of a whoopsie.
Yeah, no kidding.
Do they ever, you know, remove
the headstones?
Like if, if a cemetery like OK,
there's a cemetery over here,
right?
It's super old, right right here
by the.
Shop the one over there by the
elementary school.
Yeah.
Do they ever like, just go, oh,
well, we're just going to move
all the bodies out here and the
headstones and we're going to
start fresh.
There's too many bodies here.
Yeah, that's what they're
saying, that they sell the
property.
No, no, if they keep the
property, they just want more
plots.
They want to dig them up and
start over.
He said no, no, no.
They just start.
What they do is they just remove
the they, they check it, they
see if anybody's visited this
person in the past decade, and
then they just remove the
tombstone and they just put a
body on top of the body.
Really.
No, that's a complete lie.
I don't.
Know it makes complete sense.
It did make sense.
But how would they know how?
Would they know nobody's
nobody's coming in to check on
Phil over here.
Buried.
Yeah, 'cause there's like graves
in there from like 1700s.
No one's visiting it.
It's like in the back corner,
they're like these little baby
headstones.
Oh I hate baby.
Headstones.
Do you go and leave?
Leave flowers.
No.
Why not?
I don't want to know them.
I don't want them to know me.
Oh wow.
OK.
Have you seen the ones where the
people clean the headstones and
then they have those some type
of machine that they leave on
and voices come through the
machine?
What?
What?
You haven't seen these?
There's videos.
Yeah, you can see these videos.
Really.
So there's these people that
clean headstones, but they play
like white noise or something,
and messages come through,
voices come through the white
noise as they're cleaning the
headstone and they're like
talking to the person that's
buried where they're cleaning.
Really.
Yeah, I don't believe you.
You had the son of this video.
But I next time I do appreciate
the short clip.
And then the gravity goes away
and you go whoop.
All right, Rocky Patel, now
we're into, oh, you have a clip
or a video or something you want
to talk about, But then we're in
the middle of the show now.
I do not have a clip.
I do not have a video.
I do not have, not in the house,
not with a mouse.
In the fox green eggs and hams
am I am Will.
Not give you a video to do.
How long till you get a Preston
shirt like he wears for the
show?
Winter Park?
Yeah, Winter Park Flag Football
Association.
I'm sure you just ask him, he'd
probably give me.
One.
Yeah, you should wear one for.
The You think I should wear one
for the show?
Well.
Yeah.
Yeah, sure, win a park flag
football.
You're part of the show.
I mean you just wear the black
shirt.
Look, I don't know how closely
affiliated he wants to be with
me.
You know at what point it's like
I.
Don't know.
I mean, he's letting you do more
and more.
Yeah, maybe he's just going to
let you take over the league and
he's going to retire.
No, I'm, I'm good.
He's just going to be a
figurehead.
He's still good, you know?
You know what the funny part is
though?
I would totally offer like
being, being the shield, you
know what I mean?
Just for fun.
That's how it starts.
You know, like, hey, we got a
question for, you know, this
isn't OK.
I'm like, no, well, that's not
allowed.
Like, oh, but you know, no,
sorry, I'd like to speak to.
No, I'm the guy I used to talk
to.
Sorry.
No, that's not.
Happening.
Oh, you don't want to be the PR
guy?
Yeah, sorry, we can't do that.
Like what do you mean?
Because here's what happens like
this is some of the crazy stuff
that goes on like this.
That league goes out of their
way to cater to everybody.
You get to say, hey, let us know
if you're going to miss a
specific day and we will
reschedule a double header or
something with you.
The league, it's six weeks.
It's only it's a six week
season, right?
I mean like a team says they
can't show them.
Hey, if you if there's a
conflict of interest, like where
you won't be able to have a
team, you know, on this
particular day, not the coach
can't make it, but the team
there's a reason or whatever,
please notate it and it by this
amount this day and we'll work
around the schedule, right.
And then coaches throughout the
season will say, Oh, hey, I
can't make this day like boy,
you had.
You you had plenty of time in
the beginning.
I'm like, you know, hey, we
offer this at this time and I'm
really sorry.
You know you either a can't make
it and take the L or.
Right.
You have to forfeit if you can't
make it, everybody.
Says or B figure out a way to
show up.
I'm sorry, there's nothing I can
do, you know?
So I would happily be that guy.
Like Nope.
Rules are rules bud, sorry.
So you know what he was talking
to him about today.
Taking over the league.
How to get sponsors what
exactly?
Unbelievable.
We've never had that
conversation.
We're not allowed to.
We don't have.
Sponsors where we on 779
episodes.
We won't take sponsors.
Fairly Prestons taking sponsors.
Ohh.
Yeah, we'll probably end up
sponsoring his show and have to
give him money.
This.
Is brought to you by a cigar.
Brought to you by a Cigar
Hustler podcast.
You said I'll listen front of
Palmer on the show.
Before.
The show this was, this was in
that 4 hour pre conference
meeting they have, yeah.
We do a pre production Oh,
something that I'd like to do
here, but I'm I always get poo
pooed and I'm like, hey, well,
let's.
Review Well, we used to do it,
but you don't show up in time.
You want to do it as we're
sitting here and he's waiting to
hit go.
Yeah, So what?
What's wrong with that?
It's.
Too, too late.
What I.
Don't think it's never too late.
Two days 'cause last time we did
it you added three stories and I
had to delete 2 and add 3.
And they were.
And guess what?
They were not the gravity story.
They were great stories.
No, they weren't.
If if you get sponsored by Bang
and you get like these red,
white and blue jumpsuits, yeah,
it's not a real sponsor.
It's not a real sponsor.
Just let you know.
Thanks.
All right, Rocky, we tell you
for the problem.
Sorry, what you sorry?
Please go ahead.
You know I was going to do poop
coke as a fake sponsor but I
figured it was it was too close
to bang.
You would have caught it.
Wow.
Because that other story came
out how it was, you know, coming
to America.
That was a legit story.
So I thought, well, I could just
ride with this and just.
Slide this in.
Slide this in but I figured
another drink it's too hard.
No, at this point, I'd want to.
I'd want to check.
I'd have to.
That's what I mean, yeah.
You know what?
Palmer would write a check when
it like he wouldn't be able to
catch it.
Right.
I'd go deposit it you.
Always give it to me to deposit.
I go whim right in whoop not you
got that coke?
I know, I honestly have no idea
what's in the bank account.
He's not even on one of them.
Yeah.
Rocky Patel, Year of the Horse
has been announced.
Not like, wait until the last
minute.
Rocky.
Yeah.
Literally starts today.
And it's Year of the Horse.
Hey, we're doing a Year of the
Horse cigar.
Perfect.
Who wants a beer?
Who wants a beer?
Rocky Patel Premium Cigars is
the latest company to announce a
Year of the Horse cigar.
It's a 7 by 48 box pressed
Churchill that uses a Mexican
San Andreas wrapper over a Nikki
Raguan binder and fillers from
Honduras, Nicaragua.
How much of the cigars,
gentlemen?
This could be this could go
anywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You want me to go first?
I'll go first.
OK Rocky Patel 100 bucks. 7000
dollars $25. 35I win.
How many boxes did he make?
Four boxes.
Each box has 10 cigars in it. 10
count.
OK. 500.
No 5000. 6000.
Oh my God.
Wow, Florida man Phil.
Florida Man.
Florida man Phil the Astro.
I don't know anything about
Rocket.
Really.
Why do you?
Why do you wait till the day of
to announce it?
He had to be making these for a
while.
He made 6000 of them, not like
he just made all those
yesterday.
Maybe he feels like people are
going to look up year of today.
Oh.
And he want to be on top of it.
Maybe it's a marketing strategy.
Oh.
No, you think he'd already sold
them.
You want to have been to the
shops today.
Well, but isn't this, but this
is a it?
Go it goes for like a month ish
3 weeks.
All right, so he'll get it all
out in time.
Or maybe he just pulled back the
curtain.
I was like, oh, I found these
gear of the horse.
Yeah, he's.
Got the coolest looking horse on
his box so I will tell you that.
Yeah.
Does it come with a knife set?
No, no, no, not Rocky Patel.
That's Gurkha.
It's Gurkha.
They're not suing anybody this
year.
Nobody.
No.
No.
They learned their.
Lesson We're not going after the
horses.
Nope, not going after the
horses.
We own the horses.
We own the horses.
We spend too much money on all
of our stuff in California.
No stood this year.
Bring on the horses.
All right, there's a massive
tobacco tax proposed for West
Virginia, uh.
Oh, it's.
Very high.
Yeah.
Currently, compared to the other
49 states in District Columbia,
West Virginia's tax and cigars
is decidedly middle of the pack,
but a new bill would make it one
of the highest in the nation.
Does that make sense?
Why are all these people raising
tobacco taxes, Michael?
Because they need money.
And they thought tobacco's a way
to do it.
Yeah, there's a lot of mention
of of cigarettes in this, so I
get that, but.
I don't get that either.
The majority of the people that
smoke cigarettes are your
working class individual.
I heard yesterday on the radio
that actually cigarette sales
are way down.
Yeah, because you can suck on a
pouch and.
Touches it.
Vaping and pouching is become
the new.
Thing wherever you want, so, but
hey, you know, we're rounding
the corner at this point, so why
not throw a tax at it?
I just don't understand.
It's going to go from 12% to
51%. 51%.
Of the wholesale price.
All tobacco, cigarettes, cigars,
all you do is you just create a
vacuum where people are going to
ship to you or you just drive
out.
How big is West Virginia?
Probably like 5 miles.
Not 5 miles. 5 miles.
No.
What happens?
Virginia And then the one with
the big hump on it.
How?
The MSRP of 950 you're likely to
pay $0.57 in state taxes.
West Virginia is 24,230 square
miles.
Square.
Yeah, oh, that's now.
But if the law goes into effect,
you will pay $2.42 in taxes.
Yeah, you just drive out of the
state and go get it somewhere
else or you have it shipped in.
So if it's shipped in, you don't
have to pay the tax.
Well, I mean, cigarettes are a
whole different thing, if you
should, you know.
Well, they were saying
cigarettes are probably up to
$10 a pack.
I believe that.
Geez, you imagine most people
smoke a minimum of one pack a
day?
That's $10 every day.
Start growing your own tobacco.
$50 a $50.
A week in West Virginia, there
probably is a lot of people that
roll roll your own.
They roll their own tobacco
there.
Yeah, just go get, just go get
the plant.
Grow your own well.
You don't even have to, you can
just go to the tobacco farm and.
Yeah, but if you're well, that's
that would work for cigars, but
if you cigarettes, you got to
Add all that other stuff to it.
You know.
All the chemicals and things
that make you want to smoke
another.
One you don't have to though
it's even.
Yeah, it's not the same.
It doesn't taste the same.
It's more natural.
But you just hang the paper out
of your mouth and you have the
little pouch and you.
Marlboro Man Sprinkle, sprinkle.
You know, roll it, light it.
Put this thing in my mouth.
That's.
Gross.
So they say about 21% of adults
in West Virginia currently smoke
cigarettes, one of the highest
rates in the United States.
So it's roughly, in raw numbers,
around 289,000 adults in the
state who smoke.
So it's a money grab.
It's a money grab.
I want the money.
That's what I would say.
That's what I would assume.
You know, it just seems lately a
lot of different states are
doing it.
Yeah, I'm you're seeing a couple
of mixed things.
You're starting to see cigar
bars.
They're trying to be in some
places.
They're trying to separate them
and, you know, classify them as
this.
Is 1/3 or fourth story we've had
since the first of the year
where tobacco taxes.
Are going to, Yeah.
I think tobacco taxes should be
banned.
Let's do that.
Let's do that on a federal you.
Should run for.
Office.
You think so?
Well, not in Florida.
We don't have any tobacco taxes.
You have to move.
You want me to go somewhere
else?
Well, if you want to run again,
make your platform no tobacco
tax.
You pick a state that has a
tobacco tax.
Yeah, I don't know a lot about
politics, but it seems to make
sense.
Yeah, OK.
I like your ideas.
I mean, you know, if you say
here they're going to go, we
don't have one.
Yeah, but if we did, we should
get rid of.
It I'm not leaving the great
state of Florida, the lawless
swamp that is.
Well you can leave your family
here and visit, you just need
residency in another state.
How would I coach from somewhere
else?
Pick a coach.
Other.
Oh, Preston will be in another
state.
Never mind.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, think it all the way
through, buddy.
Sorry, it would pave the way
though for him to great and make
a great league over there
because then Preston wouldn't be
in the way.
Right, you could have.
Preston wouldn't be in the way,
so he just.
Said yeah.
You could do everything he's
doing, but better.
More efficient because I'm.
Sure, you have a more efficient
way to do it.
His kids win a lot more than my
kids do it.
Just means his kids are better
than yours, it doesn't mean he's
doing it better.
I don't think so.
I think that he's just better
coaching.
I'm putting the blame on
yourself.
What a guy.
Yeah, that's what I do.
I don't know that I don't know
who who anybody is in this whole
thing other than my game,
Preston.
I don't know the kids, like your
kids only are on the team, no.
No, I have.
No, his kids are the his kids
that he coaches, not just the
ones he made.
Yeah, all the players.
It's not the players, it's the
coach.
Yeah, when it's when it's when
it's kids, I mean, yeah, it's
not really the athletic ability
of the child.
I mean there is some that really
have no athletic ability but but
most of them are OK as long as
they can run.
Right.
So coaching will probably.
Be it is impressive how he runs
his team.
I mean, like, it is a real
football team, right?
Well.
Not just a bunch of kids, just
running.
Around Are you starting to fall
for him a little bit?
No, not falling for him.
I mean, I, I, I see.
I've seen.
Him maybe.
Maybe that's what it is.
I don't know who you know, He is
quite the attractive man.
See, there it is.
Wow, there it is.
No, it's.
It's out for the pink eye or
whatever ringworm.
Ringworm out for the ringworm,
No.
If you're going to do anything
right, do it 100%, Yeah.
I mean, and you're really
setting them up for the next
level.
Right.
OK.
So tobacco tax raised West
Virginia don't go to West
Virginia.
Yes, and we all like Preston, so
we're all all right.
Dominique London arrives in
Luxembourg.
They're opening a new a new shop
in Lundenburg.
It was a slow Newsday, and this
was the only story left.
Yeah, but it is another shop in
a foreign country.
Why are the shops in the foreign
countries so much nicer than the
ones we have here in America?
I mean sure we have nice shops
here in America, but like when I
would go to a shop in Hong Kong,
all fancy fancy looking shops,
this one beautiful looking.
How many shops did you go to in
Hong Kong?
5.
OK, how many shops do you see?
Can you see from here to the
West Coast?
Well, yeah, I understand there's
more, right?
But you don't, I mean, are there
like around here like around
here probably cigars on the ad
would be the upscale shop that
or blend in barrel.
OK, this one looks better than
both of those.
OK, I believe that there's less
of them they're.
Is that what it is?
They're going for a high end
clientele where we have, you
know, you have shops everywhere.
You have, you have hole in the
wall shops.
The guy, you know, somebody
who's retired that's looking to
just kind of have a toy where he
can hang out, opens a store,
right?
And doesn't realize how much
it's going to take for it to
just kind of succeed, right?
Well over there too.
Like it's probably less people
that smoke.
You think so?
Like population wise.
But if you don't have as many
shops.
Yeah, I guess, yeah.
You'd probably have more people.
You would think they'd have to
have a large clientele to
afford.
To make and the prices are
probably higher there.
Oh yeah, they're only the, you
know, high end expensive cigars.
You know, the people's stands
are just different
internationally.
Like when you go to like Europe
and stuff.
Yeah, they're just different.
You think so?
Yeah.
What's different?
Their standards.
They care like about their
business.
Like there's a lot of business
owners in America that don't
really care about it.
It is.
So you're saying that the
businesses in America aren't as
good as ones that are overseas?
I wouldn't say all of them, but
I would say most of them, yeah.
You'd say most of them, yeah.
OK, like, I mean, how many times
have you been, have you walked
into a place and you're like,
what is going on here?
Why is this place so dirty?
Like, why are we, why am I here?
You know, like how is it still
standing?
You know that that that happens
a lot.
Yeah, you visit a lot of
international stores.
No, no, no, I'm saying over here
in America.
But as a comparison.
Stores you going to where you
walk in and go.
Why am I here?
What is this place?
Doing no, I just seen Bob's.
I'm just wondering.
Bobs over there, I've never been
in.
I've never been in this shop.
That's a, you know, that's a.
That's that perfect scenario.
Yeah, it's the prime example of
what he just mentioned.
Guy's got a little bit of a toy.
People come in, they go out,
whatever.
You know, he's got 3 or 4
riggers, probably sit in the
back.
I.
Don't know how anybody sits I.
Don't know man.
Is there a back?
Yeah, there's a back.
Like a patio or like the back of
the.
Building.
Yeah, it's the back of the
building.
The back of it's, you have to
walk past the mildew.
Yeah.
I don't know, You know, some
people have different lower
standards than others, but I
guarantee you that that's a
global thing.
It's not just here.
Think so, yeah.
So you think there's rundown
shops in Europe as well?
Yeah, of.
Course, if they're allowed to be
there.
If anybody lives over there
that's listening to us, can you
please send us a picture?
Here's me shop.
Oh, the rundown where?
I visit and you can see this
chair hasn't been replaced in 30
years.
He's.
Starting to get sick?
No, it was me.
My raspy voice made me cough.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me Red Bull this to wash
that down.
All right, it's time for the
industry's favorite.
Oh, what was Jack going to give
you a hard time about yesterday?
Did you call him back?
Who?
Jack.
You know, Jack Teranio.
Large man.
Worked for Espinosa.
So guys.
Yeah.
So knows everything.
Everybody tells him everything.
So Jack is tied into, you know,
Jack is a close friend and Jack
is on my wife's Facebook page
and he saw Teddy at at her track
mate.
Oh, I did too.
So Teddy is my 6 year old girl
and she is extremely competitive
where she runs and plays against
my 10 year old son and my 12
year old son.
So when you have a six year old
girl that is athletic and hyper
competitive and you put her
against other 6 year old girls,
she blows them out of the water.
Oh yeah, she was running.
She she took off.
Yeah, the 200 meters, she beat
them by 8 seconds.
Oh wow.
And the the 100m I think she
beat the next one by two or
three seconds and then the 50, I
think it was by like one or two
seconds.
And then she did the javelin,
and, you know, she's a football
quarterback in kindergarten, so
she won that, too.
So, you know, she kind of
dominates in all those things.
And, yeah, he was just
commenting on that.
And you know, oh, give me a hard
time.
That's all.
Just curious.
Yeah, we do have something we
need to address.
OK.
I received a phone call
yesterday evening.
Yes.
From Mr. Mike Rosales.
OK.
He would like to know why we
never had Jason on the show.
Well, we like to have people
here.
Right.
I did ask if he was coming in
but I guess we had originally
scheduled him to be on the show
and then he cancelled on us and
then we never rescheduled him.
Yeah.
I think that, yeah, there was
going to be a phone call, though
we weren't having to.
Yeah, so Jason fucked that up.
Well, I said the novelty wore
off.
I said the novelty wore off.
We don't want to talk to him
and.
We were going to have him on the
show and then he.
Backed up and they hired him.
If you're not committed, is what
it is.
He had a previous discussion
with Skip or something he had to
go do.
Yeah, Oh yeah, I had to do a
meeting.
Yeah, I had a meeting.
Yeah, he blew that right.
Yeah.
What would he say at this point?
Here are.
You going to call him?
Watch this.
Yes, if he answered the phone
these spots.
Oh, he's going to answer.
He's hoping for an order.
On the spot here we are.
Welcome to the Palmer Show and
Mikey.
So I hope it doesn't answer.
What's up, dude?
Hey, what's up, dude?
You're on the podcast.
How are you?
I'm good, man.
How are you guys?
I'm doing great.
So, you know, we never had you
on the show because you blew
that that one time with that
meeting.
Did you?
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
To be fair, I was.
I was in a meeting.
Yeah.
With Skippy.
So to be fair, we don't care.
That's always.
Yeah, that's true.
So, yeah.
So is there anything important
that you want to add currently
to this podcast?
Because Michael Rosales
apparently given my friend Mr.
Palmer a hard time that we've
never had you on the show?
Yeah.
You know, we can take this
anywhere you want to take it.
See if it's all if it's up to
me, then you know, I'm I'm going
to have to postpone at some
later date.
We'd like you in person.
Tell Mister Rosales that we
would like you to work the
Florida territory and you'd like
to come in and cover the
podcast.
All right.
Perfect, perfect.
OK, all right.
Sounds good.
All right.
OK.
I love you guys and have a great
day.
All right.
Love you too, buddy.
Be safe.
Goodbye.
Bye, bye, Jason.
There you go.
It was on the podcast.
Anything else?
No.
Well, we check, check.
We're all done there.
Everything's up if.
You'd like to have Jason, the
number one salesman of
Aromacraft Tobac, on the show.
Please fly him in so that we can
put him in the hot seat.
Wait, who else do we want Mikey
to call?
Palmer?
We just have the talent that
they called up and said that
they really want to be on the
show.
Yeah.
The best ones are like Matt
Booth cause the answer's skip
Jack, you know?
Yeah, Matt Booth.
Matt Booth's great 'cause he
starts going.
In I haven't really talked to
Pete since the.
Since the event since.
The show, yeah.
So I don't know if he'd answer,
but when he maybe we'd try that
when, when he announces
something, right, we'll give him
a call.
Pete Johnson, Yeah, you got the.
Answers Hey, you're on the
podcast.
I love doing that.
Hey, you're on the podcast.
I'm what?
Yeah, all.
Right, it's time for the
industry's favorite show or
frame of a game show.
What's the score all?
Right today's Cigar, April 13th,
2017.
Charlie Minato.
It's a Caldwell cigar from
Nicaragua.
All out kings smash you.
Want me to go first?
Yeah, 86.
I'm not a a big smoker of
Caldwell.
I think I've had like 2.
Maybe the king is dead?
Or is it the queen is dead?
King is dead.
King is dead.
OK, I think there's a queen is
dead.
There's a Yeah Queen one too.
OK, it was the only two I've
ever smoked so.
But you know, I'm gonna have to
just ride your tail on this one.
So what else is new?
I don't know anything about a
scar until I hear some stuff so.
I do nothing but.
What else is new SO?
What are you gonna do?
So what's the initial score just
picking?
Up 85.
This is the Drew State collab,
right?
Yes.
OK.
Country of origin Nicaragua
factory.
La Gran Fabrica Drew Estate.
Oh.
Rapper Connecticut Urbano Binder
Indonesian Sumatra killer
Connecticut broadleaf Lehero
Dominican Coro 97 and Nicaragua
Estelean Halapa.
It's a 5 by 52 Robusto $13.80.
They smoked 3. 80.
You smoked the cigar, Mr.
Coattails.
I think I might have had the
cigar.
It's been so many who can keep
track.
I'm.
Gonna stay at 85.
OK, clue number one, this cigar.
Good.
The cigar delivers a layered and
distinctive mix of flavors,
walnuts, Dr. Pepper like
sweetness, cocoa, sweet cherry,
cedar, orange, creaminess and
even floral notes.
So many flavors like Doctor
Pepper 32.
Flavors.
It evolves throughout the smoke,
keeping things interesting from
first, third to final inch. 77.
Really.
Yeah.
We're just picking numbers at
this point.
Maybe.
Because we just go one can't go
one.
No, I'm going to say 808585.
OK.
Like many Drew State
productions, smoke production is
intense.
Flavor sits at medium full with
full body and medium plus
strength, building toward full
without overwhelming the smoker,
giving it power without becoming
harsh. 75 10 away from you. 76.
Oh.
Final.
Go away, you're on the third
clue.
Final clue.
OK.
'Cause you were about to say
thought.
No I wasn't. 1 sample required a
touch up to stay lit and the
increasing grain notes in the
final third created a drying
effect on the palate.
Additionally, some vegetable
notes.
Zucchini, bok choy.
Bok choy.
Somebody's I.
Know what it is but.
I don't.
Bok choy.
It's really good.
It's that little brown of
vegetable.
It's green.
In stir fry.
Yeah, it's green.
Is it green?
It's.
Green.
That bok choy was brown and that
appealed to every smoker.
It's in stir fry.
I got it.
Well, you can eat it plain too.
OK, well Bok Choy's got me going
to 78.
They steam it, it's delicious.
78 Phil. 77.
Final thought After I finished
smoking the cigars for this
review, Brooks Whittington asked
me what I thought of the cigar,
saying he had heard good things
about it.
I told him that it's a good
cigar, price too high.
I then made the comparison with
the Padrone Exclusivo, and he
was notably surprised by just
how pricey this cigar is.
And fairness.
Many cigars would fail the
Padrone comparison, but I
suspect that example will keep a
lot of people from smoking as
many all out Kings as they might
want.
It's pricey to some degree.
I'm not sure what I would
expect.
Drew Estate's offerings have
increased at a steady pace, and
Caldwell isn't known for making
cheap cigars.
But the price point makes this a
special occasion cigar for me,
and I think the flavors fall
just short of a special
occasion.
Excuse the nasally stuff.
During that reading, my nose got
clogged there for a second.
Pardon my nasally 86.
The the Padron Damaso, is that
what he compared it to?
Exclusivo.
Exclusivo What?
Was your score, Michael?
86.
Phillip.
Revving.
He's revving, not starting.
He's.
Revving, can't get it today,
need jumper cables.
I think it's worse than 86.
Let's go 85.
Oh, you went the wrong way.
It's a 90.
It's a 90.
What?
He compared it to a Padrone
Exclusivo.
Yeah.
How many people have heard of
the cigar, The Warburg at what,
in 88?
Yeah, just two less than this.
That makes no sense.
Well, this was done in 2000. 10
they were also didn't have the
number 2 cigar of the year, you
know what I mean?
Just saying.
Yeah, how can we complain about
their grading when we got #2
yeah, the number one production
cigar.
I mean, we should have had
#1.079 you.
Have just something to look for
next year.
Yeah, I don't know if Sumatra's
ever taken #1.
Until 2026.
We've never had a Sumatra
that's.
What I mean?
It's true.
Well, we we have, but not as a
regular production, right?
It's a good cigar.
He's very good.
He's very.
Good.
Super good.
OK.
All right, on the 25th next week
I will be at Northport Cigars in
Northport, Florida from 1:00 to
5:00.
OK.
So in 15 minutes I will be
taking a nap.
As long as you're not dead
before then.
Wait, what day is that?
That's next Wednesday, I
believe.
Are you doing are you doing any
bike week stuff?
No, no, I don't have a
motorcycle anymore.
No, no, I I just, I've been
seeing a lot of things in this
world.
Dude like the things that move
at bike week are like flavored
cigars and.
Stuff.
Yeah, it's all the dirt state
acid stuff.
Yeah, Tatiana's.
Yep, OK.
Got it.
Well hey again, thank you so
much.
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What's not to like?
What's?
Not to like what's not to like?
2 guys and an idiot that make
fun of everything.
Yeah.
Wow, I like how you said that
guys.
Well, you don't know which one
of the two guys, which one's the
idiot you're getting Spencer
like.
Yeah, it could be anybody.
Maybe I'm an idiot.
Who knows?
Bing Bong.
Wow.
Bing bong.
They will all just start saying
Bing bong.
Just make this shirt already.
Gotta wait.
The hats are still running.
Yeah.
All right.
All right, guys, we gotta go.
Thank you very much.
Bye.
Bye.
Show Notes
On today’s show we have a new medical alert! Farts are making science history, You Said You moved the bodies? And then in cigars another tax hike, Rocky Patel jumps on the horse, a new shop opens abroad and then we wrap up the day with a what’s the score!