ACHP Episode 471 Pepperoni. Attack!
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Welcome to Cigar Hustler podcast
episode 471.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host still
alive.
And with me today is Phil.
I don't have face ringworm.
Stop asking me Mcguffey in
engineering.
Yeah, I don't have that.
Facial ringworm.
Then as my Co host Mikey, don't
interrupt me stubborn Kevitch.
I would love that.
Welcome to the show, gentlemen.
The score yesterday was 5 to 2,
so we'll see what happens today.
Could go either way.
Could go either way.
All right, now today's show,
YouTube is down.
Well, it was last night.
It's not down.
It's back up now.
Really.
Yes a take out pizza really took
some teens out.
Did you guys hear about that?
No that's that's a good story.
If you thought no gravity was
bad, wait till you hear about
the killer asteroids and we have
no way to stop them.
Then in cigars purple is the
color for 2026, Romeo and Juliet
is at it again and DTT is making
some sweet decisions.
All this and a mini game of
what's the score?
Nice.
But before we get started.
Wait, wait, I have a question.
Right.
What happens to you on
Wednesdays, Palmer?
Ringworm, you have to use an
antifungal cream.
We talked about that yesterday.
No, no.
What happens to you on
Wednesdays?
You're like, always super
chipper on a Wednesday, Yeah.
It's the middle of the week.
Maybe Tuesdays is Tuesday,
evenings is Bang Bang day.
Oh yeah, maybe.
Maybe you know.
Nope, that's a week.
It's a weekend thing.
At my house.
We have no weekdays.
Maybe we're about too busy
during the week.
There's no way to schedule.
That maybe he wakes up Wednesday
and he gets it in real quick.
Yeah, there's a little.
Yeah, Here we go.
I'd hard time getting out of bed
this morning.
I didn't get here till almost
10.
Yeah, oh, Greg.
Hours.
Nice.
Yeah, Greg, hours day right now.
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One of them is very long.
Read the long one.
Leave the wrong.
Yeah, right.
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I'm blowing your words.
I'm good, so let's see.
From episode 469 Epicurean smoke
says Brian is half wheels boots
Bing bong a lot of boots
comments, a lot of Phil
comments.
A lot of Phil.
People love me.
A lot of Phil comments.
Let's see here Ben Roland on
episode 469.
I also wrote Mikey looked ready
to do some employee training by
pummeling Palmer.
Oh man, no, we would never.
Maybe never.
Make me cry.
Eric Brooks.
Oh wait, that's on a short.
Hostile work environment.
I'm not allowed to say that we
had a discussion years ago.
We did.
I'm not allowed to say it's a
hostile work environment.
From Real From real Smoke Pod
boots opens the door to find a
child standing in the middle of
the room wearing a straight
jacket looking down at the
floor.
As he walks in he hears a little
girl say daddy.
The girl looks up wearing a mask
like his and says 2 words.
Bing Bong.
That was a little girl when you
were exterminating, yeah.
That was a little creepy, that
whole description.
Oh, some of these are good.
Very specific some of these.
Are good when Phil speaks all I
hear is white noise from a boy.
Dada cache 2004 number at at 6
minutes and 7 seconds of episode
469.
I love David David Morris.
You're the best.
Dude.
We said your show could
straighten out a whole
generation of scientists As I
was reading it to you.
And then you said and lyricists,
I guess, 'cause that made
complete sense.
No, 'cause Palmer was rapping.
You don't remember this, I said.
Lyricist, lyricist, lyricist.
People who know who know the
lyrics for songs.
Yeah.
And I guess I was singing a song
wrong or something, I don't
remember right.
And then T Money wrote, Do you
think Drew Estate will sue?
Oh, I already said that one.
That was yesterday's OK, That's
it.
If you want to hear your comment
potentially on our podcast, make
sure you comment below.
Talk about the episode.
If it's funny, it'll probably
make the show.
Wow, if it's not funny, it makes
the show.
You read all of them it seems.
But it's going to get to a point
where they I'm only going to do
just a funny ones.
Yeah, it wasn't all of them,
Palmer.
Yeah, if you have 7500 comments,
I can't.
All of them.
We have time.
We're only 5 minutes in.
Please continue.
No too many.
I don't want to comment, I don't
want to read the shorts
responses, you know, on all the
videos and stuff like that
either.
All right, now the stories you
want to hear.
Last night at 8:00, YouTube went
down.
Oh, really?
Offline angry Boop, boop, boop
boop.
It would Don.
Is that why you launched this
the release at midnight?
Look, I went home and went to
sleep and then I got up and
tried to do the uploads and then
I fell asleep between uploads
because it takes 45 minutes to
an hour.
I've told you before, the
default on YouTube is midnight.
Sometimes when you change it and
then hit save it defaults back
to midnight.
I didn't check it but instead of
your passive aggressive comment
of oh are we uploading at
midnight?
Couldn't you just have fixed it
and no one?
Always.
I would have happily fixed it.
I got up out of bed and my wife
goes what are you doing?
I gotta go fix an upload.
Instead of you, instead of you
interpreting my texts as passive
aggressive, maybe you should
have interpreted it as a
legitimate question and said no,
it's 5:00 AM perfect.
I would have fixed it.
I fixed it.
I would have fixed it right then
and there, but instead you dead
aired me without responding.
It was late, I had already been
in bed for six hours.
All you all you would have to
say was it's supposed to be 5.
AM If I had remembered to turn
the volume off, I wouldn't even
have heard it.
But I forgot to turn the volume
off last night.
All you had to say was no.
It's supposed to be 5:00 AM.
Maybe you're doing something
different.
I don't.
Even Adrian knows my phone goes
boss, that it's you.
Here I am trying to give you the
benefit of the doubt.
I'm like it doesn't sound right
but let me verify from the guy
who uploads all the time.
Really anytime after midnight
would would be OK.
I think you should do the same
time every time all the.
Time I do I do 5:00 AM every day
all.
Right, so then if I see it
again.
By the way, we get the Yeah, if
you see it again, just change it
to 5.
I'm going to change it to 5.
Right.
Unless we discuss it beforehand,
some reason we're going to do
it, OK.
I think there has been one or
two of those in the last eight
years.
OK.
And you know, if you see my
text, maybe give me the benefit
of the doubt that I'm not trying
to be passive aggressive 'cause
I don't really know how to be
passive aggressive.
I only know how to be aggressive
aggressive.
Oh yeah, gotcha.
There would have been like caps
and like, hey, you idiot, why
would you do this at midnight?
But that wouldn't have.
But that wasn't the case.
I was concerned that the time
was wrong, or maybe it was right
and that's what you do.
I stay in my lane.
I just verified all you had to
say was 5:00 AM.
Thank you for checking.
You know, I don't know why this
came to my head, but maybe this
is how the conversation went
with USA and China when they
were talking about tariffs.
This is kind of how it was like,
like Mikey was USA.
Oh, and I'm China.
And yeah, you were trying to
like you.
You at first you were, you were
going against the grain, and
then you kind of just conformed
to the whole conversation.
USA won.
USA.
Now the Tariffs USA.
Tariffs are still a little high.
Yeah, USA won.
Right.
All right.
By 9:15 they had to site back
up.
They was down for an hour and 15
minutes.
People were.
Losing their minds, they were
going.
Crazy.
Apparently Lou Liga was terribly
upset because he couldn't do a
show.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yes.
What?
Boots said.
I didn't even see that he
disappeared for a while and all
of a sudden.
He's back.
He's back in full swing and back
in full.
A hole mode, you know.
Whose show any?
Any idea boots what show he was
going to be on?
Or Phil?
Sorry.
Oh, he's got his own podcast.
Now, oh, he's got his own.
Oh, he couldn't do his own show.
Episode 7, yeah.
Oh, you're watching it?
I don't watch any episode, any
podcast.
You don't watch any of them.
We do a podcast five days a
week.
Believe me, I am quite aware.
Plus the Patreon.
Oh, it's six, right?
We do 6 shows a week.
Plus the football 1. 70 My OK,
so there's how many friends who
want basketball?
No.
No podcast.
Or a baseball.
Seven, that we do.
Oh, I never.
Just don't tell me the.
Number, we got a, we got a
wholesale operation to run and
we also do a retail together,
right, right.
You handle marketing for all
that stuff.
Yes.
I coach 75,000 teams.
I don't know what, what, why?
I've started to do that postcard
you've asked me for three times.
And then you get into something
else like, OK, that just waits
again, right you.
Know what I mean?
So like I will tell you the one
that there is an there is a
podcast that I do want to watch
and it's the Simply Stogie one
with David Garofalo.
Oh, I saw he was just going to
be on one.
Yeah.
So I want to, I do want to watch
that 'cause I saw some of the
short clips.
I'm like, OK, I need to listen
to him so.
All right, by 926 they'd
released the cause of the
problem.
As we talked before, it seems to
be happening a lot more often
with the the social media.
Yeah, there's a lot of this.
There's a lot of this going on.
You think maybe China is testing
like, let's see if we can knock
this one off today when you just
cut this?
That's how they talk.
I don't know.
They hired a Russian guy.
You're in with the Russians in
China.
I think it's more like, watch
these Americans, watch how crazy
they go when we turn this off.
Watch how crazy Luliga go and we
cut off the YouTube.
So anyway the outage was caused.
It's funny because they released
a statement on X why theirs was
out.
Oh, theirs was down.
Everybody goes to X.
You about to say something?
You know, for me, I would think
that something has to do with
like power and AI.
Like that's what.
What if AI is strategically
cutting these off one at a time
to see if they can do it?
Testing the social media
platforms.
See what they can show 'cause
they shut off, they shut off.
If they shut off social media,
everybody's gonna lose their
mind.
Or it's like, you know how they
do like the thing when you're
about to rob a bank or whatever
where you could like unplug the
camera real quick and then you
plug it back in and then it's a
loop or something so that you
don't, you know what I mean?
Maybe that's what a is like.
Maybe AI is like unplugging it,
sliding into it so they can run
it, and turning it back on.
Maybe we're all in the loop.
Problem with the matrix.
And they're pushing their their
their AI propaganda.
They say the problem was that
the recommendation system went
offline, which caused the whole
thing to shut down because after
you watch the video, they could
tell you what to watch next.
See.
AI has now Skynet has now in the
recommendation system, right?
So, so you're watching a video,
right?
And then it recommends something
evil that you should do to the
next video that you should
watch, and it's really bad.
I'm looking for John Connor.
And it's trying to convince
people to do bad things.
Anybody want to guess how many
people notified the down
detector that they had no
YouTube?
I know at least one.
It sounds like Lou Liga had
notified at least several times.
837,973 just in the USA.
Within that hour.
That's a pretty specific.
Number.
Yeah, an hour and 15 minutes. 8
till 9:15.
Wow.
An hour and 15 minutes.
Hey, your thing's down.
Hey, everybody's down call down
detector.
Wow.
So 46.7% of users reported
problems accessing the YouTube
app and 21.1% reporting problems
with the website in general.
Users in Canada, Brazil, the UK
and Germany also reported
problems.
Wow.
Worldwide problem.
Nobody could watch our show
yesterday.
It better not affect my viewers
because I'm I'm pushing for
monetization here.
Just saying.
How close are we?
So I was trying to explain to my
wife my wife yesterday, 'cause I
was telling her about the the
gravity thing and how many
people she goes if you guys are.
That that was on Instagram.
Yes, well, that's why I told her
I go if you can.
She's she's.
If you guys are that popular,
how are you still not making any
money?
Well, we are now.
We actually are there, you know,
but as far as monetization is
concerned.
Right, well I told her every the
apps that actually pay we have
not hit where we need to be yet,
but by people looking at the
Instagram one that went so high
they will they might go oh let
me go watch the videos on the
other thing and see what these
idiots are saying there right
she goes oh that makes complete
sense.
Just so you know, we are 41
valid public hours away.
On YouTube.
From being monetized.
Is that from?
Is that where they start paying
us for our show or they start
putting commercials in?
Google AdSense, all that stuff,
yeah. 40 hours. 41 hours.
That's it.
It's one work week, guys.
Come on, somebody watch it.
Whether?
It I got news for you the the
direction that it's trending.
Yeah, Wednesday next week, you
should be good to go.
Wow, 41 hours Wednesday.
Next week we'll do it.
Fill away right at the
racetrack.
Turn it on on your phone.
Just.
Might be earlier.
Oh, people have to watch in
another 41 hours.
Yeah, but here's what's wild,
here's what's kind of crazy.
Like if you look at, like, your
stats, and I love sharing all
this stuff with people.
I think this is fascinating
because nobody actually does
that.
No.
Like we had 188,000 views within
30 days.
Our watch time hours within 30
days was 1.2 K hours.
So you know, what does that,
that, what does that break down
to?
Like how do they view that?
Is it, is it short reels?
Is it long?
You know, like there's, there's
a way that they kind of they
look at it because in 365 days
we have a total watch time of
8676 hours.
That's not a lie.
Where the goal is 4000.
But it's 30 days. 8000 hours.
It didn't seem like a lot for
365 days.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
That's only 8000 people watching
the show from start to finish.
That's doesn't sound like a lot
do you 8000 people I would like
more.
Oh OK, well, quite the pessimist
see is he how he takes things?
I'm negatively texting him.
I mean 8676 is a lot of watching
give.
Me a comparable.
Give me somebody else's.
I can't look at anybody else.
'S analytics somebody else give
us yours.
Share your analytics, then Tim
Daly just drops a bomb on you.
Tim Daly What's Tim Daly?
Say I.
Don't know, doesn't he?
He's the guy that does all the
shorts and stuff and daily
cigars and he talks like every
other YouTube.
I'm going to show you how to not
sniff A cellophane and I'm like,
Oh my.
Goodness, that's exactly how we
talk.
You're right.
That's kind of crazy.
He was, but it works all into
the Drew state thing.
He's got the most views all into
it.
How so?
Well, he did one video.
If you could do the voice again
saying that you're looking
forward to seeing what the video
is.
I'm looking forward to seeing
how the video goes.
OK.
And now the one that says, Can
you believe that's what he said?
It's a great idea.
I'm all in.
Can you believe that's what he
said?
That's a great idea.
There you.
Go.
That was him.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Does he do his eyebrows like
that too?
Yes, yes, yes.
He's bald too, so you really see
the eyebrows.
Nice dude.
But like, that's what a lot of
the YouTube shorts pick up on
just eyebrows.
Oh, you know, it's like there's
there's a whole, there's whole,
there's gimmicks about all of
them.
You know, people make jokes all
the time because like, that's.
Is it there's like ways where
you pop in on the screen or pop
out of the screen to bring up
views?
That's successful.
Come.
Up from the bottom or down from
the top?
It's.
So weird.
Why don't we do that every
episode?
Here we are.
We got we got 700,000 clicks or
views on on on an asteroid on
our Instagram.
We're right to have 7.
People trying to say one guy
said I love this one.
So when this doesn't happen, can
we find these peckerwoods and
put them six feet on the ground
for spreading false information?
It's just news.
Do you do you go after the news
people for talking about what's
out in the public team?
Bro.
Thanks dude, are you that
worried?
Get a parachute.
That's intense.
And then I gave him your
address.
Yeah, come on over, Get past my
dog.
Hey what is 2 guys show called?
Internet Cigar Authority.
Cigar Authority.
They don't do shorts.
Well do they do shorts?
No, I don't think so.
You can't look up their they,
you can't look up their
analytics.
You don't think so?
No, I'm asking an AI.
You're asking an AI.
Asking an AI, which AI do you
use over there, Phil?
I'm.
Just chat GT I'm I'm original.
Are you a Bing bonger?
Yeah, no ChatGPT.
Bing bong dot AI.
Yeah, you're right.
I can't.
It's locked.
All right, next story, we're
ready to move on.
Yeah.
What was the first story about?
YouTube.
YouTube was out.
Oh, YouTube's there.
Lou Liga is very upset.
Yeah, poor Lou Liga.
So there's this pizza shop in
New York.
OK, Girl named Gracie works
here.
OK, There's an altercation with
a girl at school.
OK, nothing really happens.
Not a big deal.
So then that girl and her friend
and another friend and two guys
come to the pizza place where
she's working.
OK, girl goes in, she challenges
her.
She goes.
So Gracie comes out from behind
the counter.
Girl takes a swing at her,
misses Gracie, pummels this
chick.
I mean, she's grabbing her by
the hair and swings her into the
wall.
I didn't know her stayed in that
well.
Swinging to the other side gets
her in a chokehold, drop to the
ground and starts boom boom
boom.
And then the girl who had been
filming the whole thing with a
red hoodie on tries to help her.
She turns around.
Beat the shit out of that girl,
yeah.
World.
Star third girl comes in, she
beats the shit out of that.
Girl, why would you go in at
that point that was.
Trying to help your friends?
Oh.
Yeah, you know.
I mean like if you know you're
in a fight and I jump in and
then I'm getting beat up so
boots jumps in.
OK, I'll walk that back in a
second, but continue.
OK so they go to court, they all
they get arrested.
The girl got off for
self-defense.
Yep.
But now the other families are
suing her for $400,000 because
she was too aggressive.
They did, they did.
She used a good luck force.
Good luck.
That ain't going to work.
You're out of your mind.
Nobody knew this girl was an MMA
fighter.
Yeah, well, hey, well, she
doesn't have to disclose that.
No, no.
No, wrong.
I'm just saying that's why she
knew.
That's how she knew how she beat
up these three girls that came
to beat her.
Up is that three?
Can you give that one?
Can you?
Will you give me that one?
Dude he's at like 9.
Yeah, OK. 90 I know.
What you guys are talking about?
OK, so first of all, let me take
this back one step.
If you or you say, hey, I want
to go and beat this person up,
I'm going to look at you and be
like what the hell are you
talking about?
We're.
Going to go.
We're going to.
Go and kick someone's ass.
We're adults, we're not
teenagers.
Even if we were teenagers, I'd
be like, what are we doing?
I'm going to, I'm going to do
everything I can to walk you off
of that Cliff.
Now I got news for you.
If I can't convince you and I
think it's very wrong, I'm going
to let you get your ass kicked
and then I'm going to drag you
out and say that was fucking
dumb, right?
I'm not jumping in on your
behalf at that point because you
wouldn't listen to me.
I was trying to talk you off of
it.
You put yourself in this
position.
You felt like you wanted to
learn the hard way and I let you
learn the hard way.
Now, if someone came up to you
in a different scenario and a
fight ensued, 100%, no questions
asked, no questions asked,
right?
I, I don't even need to know
what's going on.
But if you go out of your way to
provoke a fight and go to a
place of business where a person
is and that person kicks your
ass, I'm not stepping in.
I'm not, because I know that you
need that lesson because you're
not listening to me.
Apparently no is that does that.
I don't.
Know I mean I that didn't go
through my head when he was
talking about you because I know
you're itching just one time
just let somebody just pop off.
Just I just need to kill
somebody.
No, but there's got.
To need a self-defense, the.
Ball where the guy raised his
hand to point point out where
the gas station was falling to
his finger well.
There's there's got to be logic
for the approach.
I'm not just some caveman
walking around right to beat
somebody up, you know, like
that's not the case.
I'm not, I'm not afraid of it.
I am a caveman.
Anything I'm I'm trying to Fast
forward through the thing, the
story is because the girl knew
what she was doing and she
defended herself against these
three other kids.
Yeah, the bars went up on your
mic over here the.
Kids were stupid to go do it.
They were stupid to go do it in
the first place.
Right.
But then you deviate it off
saying that I would go and I
would, you know, like, well,
you, you know, her friends
jumped in.
I'm like, her friends shouldn't
have jumped in.
If anybody had any sense of
logic at this point, hey, let's
go to this pizza place and kick
this girl's ass.
I'd be like, this is dumb.
What are we doing right?
And if you said, hey, let's go
to this pizzas place and kick
this girl's ass and I'm like,
dude, I don't know.
That's not a good idea.
Can we not say kick a girl's
ass?
No, I'm letting that one in.
I slid that one in on purpose.
I'm like, I don't know, dude.
OK.
Yeah, I would just say, OK, I'm
going to get him now.
Thank you.
Have a good day.
You know nothing from you.
What you say I was reading the
story from a whole different
angle.
I don't know why we're now we're
talking about your what was the
decision to help her now?
What was your angle?
That this girl beat up, these
other kids that came to beat her
up, they're kids.
I mean, kids get in fights all
the time.
My wife's been beat up in a
fight with kids.
Yeah, OK.
So I mean your logic and kids
logic is not the same thing.
The kids logic, the kids logic
is going to fight to go and pick
a fight.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what
the altercation was at school
that caused, you know, the
warranted aid, a visit to her
place of work.
I can't imagine it being that
serious.
No, I mean, probably to them it
was, but no, probably to us it's
not.
She might have touched the wrong
boy or something.
Did Gracie text her boyfriend?
I mean like what?
What are we talking about here?
I don't know.
They didn't say, you know, I
didn't say.
But the video is, is is quite
horrific.
I didn't realize hair stayed in
that well.
You have the video.
I don't have the video but I saw
the video and it was hard to
find and it was over somebody
else's post.
I can see it would have to
depend on how it escalated.
The fight there, there wasn't
much of an escalation there.
The girl came in, took one swing
and then got the shit beat out
of her.
Well, I'm saying like, yeah, but
there had to be some.
Gracie.
There had to be some type of
word.
Piece of.
Change, you know.
Yeah.
I mean, you can't see what that
is, obviously, because there's
no sound.
Right, 'cause if like if all
three of us were somewhere and
somebody came up to 1 of you
guys and started, you know, Jack
jacking their jaw a little bit
like, you know, I'd have the,
I'd have to say something.
And then I guess from there it
would have to, we'd have to see
how that escalates.
That night we went out for
Greg's bachelor party thing.
Yeah, somebody said something as
a group of us was walking out.
I don't know if it was to me or
somebody else, but I think you
2.
Thought Oh yes I got the video.
I thought, I think you two
thought it was, and you two
bowed up like he was talking to
me.
Yeah, yeah, we're not.
Listen, we may make fun of each
other, but we're not going to
let anybody fucking infiltrate
on SURF.
Girl, no one's going to mess
with our idiots.
You.
Watching the video now, Can you
believe that hair stays in that?
Well, I'm going to send it to
you now.
One second.
I'm recording right now.
Yeah, she whipped.
That girl, yeah, by her.
Hair.
Oh dude, listen.
Oh smack.
Oh, smack.
Pan Pizza Company.
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody from the pizza company
came out to help.
Her It doesn't look like
anybody's there.
Well, there's a couple other
guys behind the counter.
Oh rag doll in her.
Right.
Love it.
If the pizza place is smart,
they'd make a pizza after this
whole thing.
The Gracie.
Yeah, the Gracie IT.
Has extra sauce for the blood.
The Gracie beat down, it's all
the meats and it's not extra
sauce, all the meats.
Extra sauce, Cheese splotched on
like bruises.
Right.
OK, I'm going to send you the
video.
Get all this the way to get it.
I think that you just look at
the Xbox X is where you got to
go for the video.
Get.
On.
Are they uncensored on there
somewhere?
I don't know, it's always easier
to find on X.
Got it.
I know somebody sent me a deep
discount.
Somebody's doing other stuff.
Oh, OK.
Where did you send it?
M&M Productions?
There it is, just came in.
OK, so you're watching the
video, is that what you're
saying?
Are we supposed to watch this?
I mean, you can if you want to.
Well, we'll put it in here, OK.
OK, it's only like 30 seconds.
There goes a ragdoll, there goes
a ragdoll, there goes. 00000.
That was incredible.
Oh, there's you beating up the
girl in the red.
Wow.
Good luck with the $400,000
lawsuit.
I hope, I hope there's a counter
suit for for five people going
to attack one person and then
filming it.
Right, 'cause the film is from
them, right?
You guys provided the the
evidence.
Thank you very.
Much that you went in and and
provoked a person.
That's assault, brother.
Exactly.
And a busted orbital.
Right, they busted their
orbital.
The girl she beat up?
Yeah, that's called.
That's that Hammer Fist will do.
Man, I've seen that one time in
real life.
Someone get a busted orbital.
Yeah, yeah, I was in Daytona.
We used to before cigars.
I used to smoke hookah when I
was younger and there used to be
this place called Shisha in
Daytona, right across from
lollipops, so I'd sit out.
That helps me, but OK.
I'd sit out front with the owner
and smoke and I had a couple of
my buddies that I hung out with
that would sit there with us and
smoke.
Well, this one kid, Matt, he's a
retard.
He he went across the street to
go ask this guy for something.
I think it was like directions
to go somewhere or whatever and
he had a cast on.
Matt had a cast on.
When he asked the guy, the guy
just reared back and popped him
right in the eye.
I don't know what it was said,
but we couldn't hear it.
Right, you don't know the actual
exchange.
He came out he when he came back
over his eye was like popped out
and it and we had to rush him to
the hospital, get him it busted
his orbital.
Wow.
His eye was all popped out and
they're like, oh.
See again, same scenario he
approached.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah.
I don't know what was said but
must have been some slick.
Right.
Well, apparently it wasn't that
slick.
All.
Right.
There's this lady at NASA.
Her name is Kelly Fast.
OK, Her job is planetary defense
officer.
Oh, that sounds like the best
job.
Doesn't that sound good?
She says.
There's killer asteroids up
there.
We have no way to stop them and
it keeps her up at night.
Really.
Yes, the planetary defense
officer.
What a cool title it is.
She just told the American
Association of for the
Advancement of Science in
Phoenix, AZ, that there are
25,000 asteroids near Earth that
measure more than 140 meters in
diameter.
It's pretty big.
NASA only knows the location of
about 40% of them because they
don't show up on the telescopes
unless they're being hit by the
sun.
So they turn with the earth as
the earth turns.
So at night times you can't see
them, Only see some of 1 1/2,
right?
So in 2022, they made this
machine called the DART, stands
for Double Asteroid Redirection
Test, and they shot at one of
the asteroids.
So it hit the asteroid, it
exploded, changed the trajectory
of the asteroids.
So we have a way to do it, but
they never built another one.
Oh, they just did the one time.
They just did the one time.
Oh this works.
That was me.
No problem.
No problem, but no problem.
But now we don't have any of
them just sitting around.
So should you think we should
have a couple of these?
Well, maybe one or two.
Yeah, maybe 2, maybe 2.
When one goes wrong, you got the
backup.
Sure.
Yeah, I think so too.
Just in case, yeah.
If one of these big rocks come,
there's no way we can stop it.
Sounds like the Intergalactic
Planetary of Defense lady is not
really doing her job.
Well, no.
She's telling them she's not in
charge of building the machine.
She keeps track of the asteroids
and says hey, there's one
coming.
Oh, there is one coming.
No, no, that's what she would
say.
No, they're out there just going
around the earth.
But eventually, they say, odds
are.
Do you remember back in the day
when like one hit Russia or
something you saw a big meteor
just boom?
No.
I don't remember.
Oh yeah, that was that was
crazy.
Well, they're these are city
size.
City size 150 meters.
OK, maybe 150 meters doesn't
sound.
I'm a small city.
Small town maybe?
OK, neighborhood.
Yeah, no bigger than a
neighborhood.
It sounds like a neighborhood.
Like a subdivision?
The subdivision.
Subdivision.
Subdivision side?
Yeah, maybe one apartment
building.
Right, Twin Pines neighborhood
or something.
Oh, Twin Pines, I was specific.
Yeah, I was trying to think of
Back to the Future.
Yeah.
It's from Back to the Future.
Oh yeah, Except now it's called
Single Pines.
Yeah, because he ran into the
tree went.
Over and left right.
OK, so asteroids could be the
end of the world.
Could be another thing getting
to the end of the world.
If we can get another 700,000
views on that one that.
Would well, you didn't get very
excited, so nobody's going to
come back.
On that, yeah, I don't know,
maybe.
All right, cigar news.
Yay cigar news.
Not quite as exciting as killer
asteroids, but we're moving on.
Yes.
Romeo and Julieta Reserva real
Nicaragua Profundo lands at Casa
de Monte Cristo.
Profundo.
PROFUNDO, Profundo.
Profundo is.
There another way to say it?
That sounds right to me.
All right.
Yeah.
Do you?
Want to talk about this again?
You don't like this?
Again, I do.
Oh, tell me.
OK, it wasn't originally
scheduled for release, but a few
more weeks, but the new Romeo
and Julietta reservoir, Real
Nicaragua Profundo has been
received at the Casa de Monte
Cristo Monte Cristo.
Just the cafe or just the Casa
de Monte Cristo?
It's probably made by Aji would
guess.
It is made by.
Yeah, that was a good guess.
Yeah.
It's an all Nicaraguan blend
highlighted by an Oscurro rapper
crafted by Adele Fernandez and
Rafael Nadal at Alter the USA.
The rapper's grown in Fernandez
and it's noticeable for its dark
color, achieved through extended
fermentation.
What is the knocking?
I don't know.
You know, what's funny is I
think a lot of AJ upped a lot of
his production when that factory
closed by because of chain Zing
or whatever.
Oh yeah.
Chain Zing.
Yeah, I don't, you know, I don't
know if that was officially
announced or not, but I think AJ
took over a lot of that
Dominican business.
So he's, if he was busy before,
he's definitely more busy now
more.
Busy now, yeah?
Well, no, it was a it wasn't
announced.
It wasn't announced how much of
the business went to him,
though.
It was not announced.
I believe we were told there
were two factories that were
involved.
There is 2, yeah.
Remember what the other?
The other ones Placencia, but I
think that AJ took like 70 or
80% of the work.
Right.
That's what was not announced.
They didn't say how much the
workload.
Allegedly.
Is he rebuilt his?
Factory.
I have no idea probably.
I saw AJ Fernandez place down
there.
Yeah, Was that pre or post fire?
Well, it was just recently, so
it'd probably have to be post,
right?
Yeah.
He's got a couple.
Only AJ.
Only AJ.
Only AJ.
So I mean, OK, so that's good
for Romeo and Giulietta to come
out with a new cigar.
I mean when was the last one
they released?
They released new stuff all the
time.
Do that.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not Privy to that, I guess.
Yeah, no, he usually tells you
about them too.
Like on this show, it announces.
Them like in this format.
Yeah, just like this.
Except we'll talk about them.
Yeah, I never see them in the
good humidor, so maybe I just
don't.
Right now they get a lot of back
orders from what I understand.
STGS very mainstream, right?
So like you'll see them in your
CIS and your other stuff and.
Over at Blend and Barrel.
Do you think it'll be a blended
barrel?
The new Romeo and Juliet's a
profundo.
But I think they carry it over
there, carry Romeo and Juliet
over there.
Yeah.
I mean, I think the every, every
store should have some, right,
You know?
I think you have one up there
right, but.
The Profundo.
I like the name Profundo.
What's the blend you?
Mean the stuff I already read.
You did you read it?
Yes.
Are you sure?
Yes.
Nicaraguan blend highlighted
Bino squirrel rapper.
OK, I'll.
Make a rag with tobacco.
That's it.
So no, no real info.
No, it's just, it was vague,
Yeah.
Right, it was vague.
So you just said yeah, I read it
off, but it was vague because
you didn't say anything that
piqued my interest as far as a
blend.
Well, it was all Nicaraguans,
all it said, really.
Oh OK.
Oh, it's a pureo.
You ever notice that there's a
hard push for that lately?
The information of how the
cigars man.
It's not like they're not even
saying they're no longer saying
Habano.
Always giving them very
specific.
They're saying, but they're, no,
they're actually highlighting
the fact that more of these
things are grown in Nicaragua,
right?
Hmm.
Nicaraguan.
You're right, it is more
Nicaraguan, yeah.
Why?
Why do you think they would do
that?
I think there's a good argument
for it.
I think there's a good argument
for the location of whatever it
is, even if it was origin based.
Habano, you know, like Ecuador
Habano, Nicaraguan Habano would
make sense to me.
So they're, so the statistics is
probably reading that when they
say it's Nicaraguan people are
more likely to smoke it than.
I don't know if it's that I
think that other people got
upset when you would say, hey,
you know, I know the Mirapels
argue Cameroon all the time.
Hey, it's Cameroon because it's
grown in Cameroon, Africa.
It's not, it's not Cameroon,
Growner, not the Lee, right?
Got to be at like 11 or 12 by
now.
What do you think?
Yeah, for all you playing at
home, please comment on what AM.
I doing I'm knowing what you
guys are talking about.
Real Smoke Pod also said that
the drinking game he was.
Oh, he was smashed.
Yeah, well, it was the Wednesday
show.
It was right after he was here.
He was already schwasted, right?
So OK, next, what do you what's
he got?
All right, Kessa Carrillo
launching a pledge.
Purple.
Oh.
Large OK, he's announced plans
to launch a new extension to the
Perez Carrillo Pledge line,
Perez Carrillo Pledge Line,
which the company is calling
Pledge Purple.
He will be expected the cigars
to come decked out in purple
bands and packed in purple
boxes.
As for the blend, it's a full
bodied blend that uses the same
Connecticut grown Havana seed
wrapper from Dunn and Foster,
the same one that used the
original pledge that was
released in 2020.
Is that the one that hit cigar
of the year?
I believe it was yes.
Just trying to help lightning
strikes twice at the same time.
You know, the interesting thing
was like you could still find
that product available for #1
cigar, which is kind of, you
know, kind of gave you the
definition Like it helps you
understand that aficionado I
don't think has the the same
amount of weight as it
originally.
I don't think they do either.
It still has some weight, but
it's not at the same extent.
Like nobody really talked about
the list this year like they
normally do.
No, they talked about padrone
briefly and then just kept it
moving.
Well, it's 'cause like a lot of
stuff on that list other than
you guys really is the same.
Yeah.
Speaking of which, we got to
review the reviewers.
Yeah, I think about that every
time I see somebody to the list.
Yeah, we got to review the
reviewers.
We're going to, we'll start with
the top the, the, the five big
dogs and we'll go from there.
I'll I'll work on printing that
out this like today I'll do
today.
They're saying this tobacco from
that 2020 is now a decade old.
It's only 6 years old.
Well, it was probably aged prior
to that.
Almost a decade old.
Yeah.
Before they put it in in the
original cigar, it sat sat in a
palone for seven years or it sat
in a palone for eight months and
then it sat in a bail after
that.
Does that change anything?
I don't know.
So it also has a Mexican binder
and Nicaraguan fillers from SLE
Condega and Omen Tempe.
It's offered in a 6 by 50 Toro.
That is how much, gentlemen.
Go ahead.
I thought the pledge was like 16
bucks.
It's the Purple Pledge.
So yeah.
So 16 bucks.
Let's say $12.00. 18.
Wow.
So it went up a.
Little Philly one.
You got 1 hey?
Hey Dunbar Tobacco and Trust is
revamping the Stilwell Star line
for PCA 2026.
Revamp aren't they killing off a
bunch of the brand like this is
like Aaron isn't #1 going to
remain.
That's it.
Well that's basically what this
is saying, that only the sweet
one sells, so we're going to
make another sweet 1.
Oh, OK, airmag #2.
Let's see what they call it.
The new incarnation will include
three different blends at
launch, each with the same 2
Vitolas, a 652 Toro, and a 5 by
48 petite Robusto.
All three blends will feature a
sweetened cap.
It'll be called the Stilwell
Star Aromatic Dulce Maduro.
OK, so they're probably just
going off of the aromatic #1.
Yeah, same blend as the aromatic
#1 but with a new name.
Yeah.
And then and now they're going
to offer it in three different
vitolas.
Yeah, well, three different
cigars.
A Stilwell Star Dulce Calero, a
brand new blend made from a
hybrid of previous Stilwell Star
Stillwell Star English Dulce
Maduro, a tweaked in parentheses
version of the English #27
blend.
And that's the three new cigars.
So it's just different wrappers.
Well, three different.
Blends.
They're tweaking the blends and
giving 1A sweet tip.
Look man, you know that cigar
came in at a higher price point?
Yeah, for for flavour infused
right.
Right.
Well, wasn't it kind of like the
first of its kind, 'cause that
was piped tobacco, right?
No.
Well, the Deadwood stuff is
piped tobacco.
Oh yeah.
It's definitely not.
Well, there was one before
Deadwood Naturals.
Oh.
That's right.
Yeah, the naturals were piped
tobacco with sugar tips and then
they turn them to latter rooms
because.
Because you couldn't say it was
natural, right?
Oh, we'll just change it
backwards then just turn the
printing over.
That's funny.
Make up a new word so they will
all be available at the PCA
Convention and Trade Show, which
takes place April 18th to the
20th in New Orleans.
Yeah, it's got, I mean it's got
a tougher price point that's the
problem.
And like is that flavor infused
cigar consumer into that higher
price point.
I think that a lot of times you
seem like that acid 20th and
some of those other things that
were more deluxe did not really
take off and they kind of faded
them away, sunsetted them.
This is just another stab at
trying to make it efficient, so.
Do you think this cigar appeals
more to current Dunbarton fans
as as an option in his line or
people that smoke like you said
an acid or something?
Give them something else to try.
I think if it catered to the
people in that are already fans
of Dunbarton, then it would
already be selling extremely
well.
I don't think that, you know,
look, your bold cigar consumers
probably not going to say and
occasionally I like the flavor
infused.
You know, I can't ever say.
I can't ever tell you all the
time when I was like, you know
what I can go for right now?
An upsetter, you know.
Oh, that's a rough, sweetened
cigar.
You think so it.
Tastes, taste and smells like
potpourri.
My wife don't even smoke those.
Taste and smells like potpourri.
Smells more floral and flowery.
You know, I don't ever.
Yeah, like Crave 1 but I will
say I did try one recently.
What'd you try?
Well, Pete and Steven Hernandez
have their own.
Oh, yeah.
And I tried it and it was, it
wasn't horrible.
It was, it was good.
It's a.
Rainy endorsement right there.
Yeah, no, I mean it was good.
I I really like their label
which is cool.
It wasn't horrible and I like
the label that was on it.
Well, I mean like.
Because of the label.
I'm not used to flavored cigars
anymore, you know, So like when
I first started smoking, I was
like, oh man, you know, the
flavour, like, hit me from the
cap, right?
But it went away after a little
bit.
And the cigar was good without
the, you know, the sweetness for
me.
Gotcha.
So it was just sweet tipped.
Yeah.
Sweet tipped, Yeah.
I think that's different than
flavour infused.
Is it?
Yeah, yeah, I think so too,
because you only get it.
You don't get it through the
length of the cigar.
Yeah, I could get away with
smoking a sweet tip.
Because it only lasts a little
bit.
Yeah, it's not, It's not the
worst thing, you know.
I get Mac every once in a while,
yeah.
In category like let's say for
the UTL, would you have to say
the sweet tip is a flavor
infuser?
No.
I don't think so.
No, I don't.
Know it's.
Just sure it's fine.
Yeah, they're going after stuff
that's vanilla.
Yeah, that's fruit flavored or
something.
Chocolate, a flavour you can
label.
Not sweet or sour, but it tastes
like bananas, right?
OK, so like all the time.
For them.
OK, all right, now it's time for
the industry's favorite show.
Favorite game.
I always say favorite show,
favorite game.
What's the all right?
June 5th, 2025 Brooks
Whittington Cigars Dunbarton
Tobacco and Trust limited
edition Nicaragua review The
Dunbarton Tobacco and Trust Year
of the Duque.
Strange enough fact this is the
only Dunbarton cigar on their
review list.
Really.
On whose list on half wheel?
Really.
Yep, that's interesting.
I know, I thought so too.
I was going to try to get one of
the tobacco or the pipe tobaccoy
ones to go with the story we
did, but this is the only one
that was there.
No meat corridos or anything,
huh?
No, I mean nonetheless it's
listed weird because normally
it's the brand then the name.
Yeah, it's got to be listed.
Weird.
They have to review.
Them.
You would think so, yeah.
Oh yeah, same comp for me.
So I mean any of it.
Yeah, they've definitely
reviewed those.
Even the Umbagog.
OK.
Who reviewed this?
Brooks Whittington.
Brooks Whittington.
You want me to go first or no?
Yeah.
Are you looking it up?
He's.
Looking it up, well, I'm looking
to see if there's reviews.
You could eat a tricky traca,
yeah.
So they're just listed under the
other name, yeah.
So it's not Dunbarn.
Yeah, the 448 got a 93.
Can't do that 1 then.
I'll forget in a week.
No, he won't.
Oh, rain starting.
Let's see 86.
This is a good cigar.
I'm going to go 90.
Cigar Reviews.
The Dunbarton Tobacco and Trust.
Year of the Duque.
Country of Origins, Nicaragua.
Factory.
Fabrica de Tobacco.
Hoya de Nicaragua, the Ecuador
and Habeno Rosado Wrapper Binder
Mexico San Andreas Negro filler,
Nicaraguan in USA, Pennsylvania.
Length by by $4817.35 A cigar
they smoked.
Three, I'm holding 86.
Yeah, I'm a Stick 90.
Do I sound like white noise?
Really.
Yes, wow.
All right, clue #1 the wrapper
lacked noticeable oil, and
despite some aromatic complexity
on one sample, the other two
were noticeably tamer and less
expressive on the wrapper and
cold draw, creating some
inconsistency across the cigars.
The negative beat off the jump.
Wow. 86, Phil.
All right, you got that.
Wow.
I don't, I don't 90.
I mistake 90.
I don't think that's going to
affect it.
Clue #2 Construction wasn't
flawless. 2 of the cigars
required burn correction in the
second third, and another needed
a touch up in the final third,
interrupting an otherwise solid
performance. 85.
They interrupted a solid
performance, yeah.
Yes, he hates when he has to
relight things. 89.
Sorry, clue #3.
The flavor profile was
consistently bold and layered,
delivering full flavor
throughout The excellent draws,
strong smoke production and
evolving complexity, especially
in the final third where toasted
bread, creamy cedar, and added
floral or spice nuance elevated
the experience. 85. 88.
I'm starting to sweat.
That was a positive and you went
down OK.
Still at 88?
Yeah.
Yep.
Final thought, While I
definitely have my favourites,
it is no great secret that I
have been a fan of just about
every cigar that Saka has
released so far in the year of
the Duquet is no exception.
The blend is bold but refined
with main flavors that shift
from ants, whatever that is,
ANISE, cedar, cloves and earth
along with Raisin and bready
Graham cracker sweetness
combined with black pepper on
the retro Hale.
Two of the three cigars need
multiple burn corrections to
stab off larger issues, but
those relatively minor
construction problems can
disguise the fact that this is
an excellent blend and a
wonderful tribute to the
wonderful person who has played
a role and Dunbarton Tobacco and
Trust success. 88.
I know you're going to go up by
that.
Well, I guess I'll win 89. 91
Yep. 91.
I figured he was going to go
high. 1.
Wow, yeah, it's Dunbar.
And I mean, most people tip
their hat.
This cigar did not track well.
What you mean like sell?
Yeah, in the industry, like from
consumers, a lot of consumers
didn't like it.
Really.
Yeah, it got a lot of mixed
reviews.
I just know the the the lovers
of Dunbar, and you know they.
He yeah, of course.
But like, even with Brooks's
first two things, you know,
didn't sound like it was going
to do that well.
Right.
Brooks need to review all our
series.
It's a done deal.
So just as long as you take note
of that, Charlie Brooks is now
the only.
Brooks is the only guy that
reviews.
The only reviewer we accept.
Nothing personal.
And don't you know, just because
Phil says you eat a lot of
Chinese food that has nothing to
do with.
It OH.
That's because Phil's racist
doesn't mean we're all racist.
Right.
We just prefer Brooks's work.
I just don't tell.
You Does he eat Chinese food?
Do we?
Have we confirmed this?
I'd be curious to see how many.
That's the one thing that that
that they haven't disclosed when
they do the reviews, how many 90
ones does Charlie give, how many
90 ones does Brooke give, Brooks
gives and how many does Patrick
give?
That'd be a good.
Step X amount of reviews
throughout the entire year.
I would ask Mctavish to to
figure that to look into that.
However, he's going to get to
this episode probably in 2027 at
this point.
He's a little behind.
Is he watching him in order?
He's he's watching him in order.
He just doesn't watch one every.
He texts me the other day and
said, hey, man, that Espinoza
interview was great in like
November, like you're in NN
Yeah, Oh my Lord.
And then we and then we ramped
up to every day, right?
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, he's never going to catch
up.
Yeah.
OK, that Espinoza interview,
where are you going to be?
Mr. Palmer?
I.
Barely remember that interview.
Yeah, next week on Wednesday the
25th, I will be at Northport
Cigars in Northport, Florida
from 1:00 to 5:00 PM.
Go see Mr. Palmer.
This weekend on the 22nd, I
think the weekend I think it's
this weekend is this weekend.
Yes.
I will be briefly at Smoke Ring
72 on Sunday for Shirtless
Mike's birthday.
Oh nice.
Going to pop in and wish him a
happy birthday.
That's lovely.
OK.
Anything else?
We have a special guest on
Monday.
I'm not going to tell you who
it.
Is oh OK.
You're gonna be in the studio
audience.
In the studio audience.
Yes.
OK.
All right.
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Show Notes
On todays show
Youtube is down! Well it was?
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If you thought no Gravity was bad what about killer asteroids and we have no way to stop them!
Then in cigars
Purple is the color for 2026, Romeo and Juliette is at is again and DTT is making a sweet decision!
All this and a mini game of what’s the score!