ACHP Episode 472 Cigars, Cocaine & Prison Purses
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Alright, come on, power.
Welcome to a Cigar Hustler
podcast episode 472.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and
with me today is Phil.
I love my Mass Mcguffey over in
engineering.
Do I?
Yes, you love your mask, you
sleep in it, your wife says And
then my Co host Mikey, I want
candy step on Kevitch on day two
of his Lent give up.
Man, last night was rough.
I have a box of doughnuts in the
car, but I thought it would be
mean if I brought them in.
That's what you mean, but it's
OK.
Well.
Right.
Welcome, gentlemen.
On today's show, Prince Andrew's
in jail.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
The King's brother, You don't
tell them you have cocaine.
You don't tell them.
Not when you've been arrested,
you.
Interview the Prince.
Medic calls Apple on the phone
and then in cigars we have a new
movie being released, Gurka has
a price increase and Pro Sabor
started and we have the
information on day one.
Yeah, all this and a wants to
score.
But first, Mikey, how do we get
some of that chapter?
Pod swim?
I forgot to mention the most
important part of this.
Oh, sorry, that was something
you added.
We're going to go over.
We're going to rate the Raiders.
Yes, we're reviewing the
reviewers.
Oh, that too.
See, I just had it wrong.
We have 5 of the top media
sources in the cigar industry
and we're going to see how they
did on the top 25 of 2025.
Well, top five excluding us, so
it's really like they're the top
6.
We don't do a top 25.
We don't do.
A top 25 that does or top five
that does the top 20.
We've tried a couple of
different years.
He picks all his cigars and Roma
craft cigars, yeah.
I mean I, I mean I.
Mean, he's not wrong, obviously,
but it's, you know, it's not
really a big surprise when
everybody comes to look at our
list, yeah.
Yeah, like these are bangers.
Right.
And we're not allowed to compete
in half wheels.
What's the thing where they take
all the other?
Consensus.
Yeah.
We're not allowed to compete in
that because we have a retail
operation.
So we just stop wasting our time
with.
Them Yeah, we stop wasting our
time.
Even though they were completely
honest with what we think.
Right, he won't do a list when
we say he can't list his own,
because those are the best ones.
Me and Palmer do the list that
Cigar Hustlers podcast.
OK.
So it's going to be interesting
to see of these top five who
took the number one spot as far
as review media.
I think you might be surprised.
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Get back to some of the comments
from the week.
Let me see here.
Comments of the comments of the
day.
Comments of the day, I
apologize.
Of the day.
I mean, we can do this every
single day.
T money, just T money just
swooped in and said Palmer
acting like 10 bucks for a pack
of cigarettes is a lot.
Yet if he wasn't sick, he'd be
smoking A6, an $18.00 cigar.
Yeah, but only one.
How many?
One cigar a day.
That's all you.
No, I don't smoke 18 cigar.
I don't smoke well.
I don't know.
I haven't had a cigar in three
days.
What's that feel like?
I'm huh.
What's that feel like?
I.
Feel like I can't breathe.
I'm afraid I'd put it down and
lose it.
I'm got foggy head today.
Real Smoke Pod wrote.
There goes mom and dad arguing
again.
Mom and dad.
Flag.
For the record, I'm dead.
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
You know, whatever your little
heart desires, whatever you want
to be in the little pretend
world.
I pretend world.
Thomas.
Bosita, Thomas, the Train.
No, Thomas Bosita was he
commented about track.
Oh, I saw the concern exchange.
You're concerned with the.
I'm sorry. 10. 10.
That he had concerns about the
javelin and I explained that the
javelin was actually just kind
of plastic.
It's not sharp and Stephen Wells
wrote.
I thought I would leave Phil
alone for an episode and say I
have been a listener since
almost the beginning and I'm
amazed at how much Mike carries
a show while the other Mike
coasts.
Yes.
See how he did that?
So who carries the show and who
coasts?
What I like is, he said.
That feels great.
You commented so.
Did you see what I wrote?
Yes, I saw what you wrote.
I look at all of them.
I wrote.
Indeed, Palmer carries the whole
thing.
Is he here?
I am.
Was that me being passive
aggressive again?
No OK being sarcastic.
Passive aggressive Palmer now.
I think that Palmer should do.
When he introduces everybody, he
should say, I'm Mike.
I like to interrupt everybody
when they're talking Palmer.
Yes, I average 9 * a show.
Yeah, OK.
Yeah, Can I go?
All right.
Police arrested King Charles
brother Andrew over misconduct
yesterday at his birthday party.
The police came in and took him
away in handcuffs.
Really.
Yes.
This is the start of the go
ahead, Palmer.
Well, this is misconduct
relating to the Epstein files.
There it is.
But it's not what you think.
They got him on providing
documents to Epstein from the
royal family.
Providing.
Misappropriation of secret
information.
Espionage.
So they show up to arrest him
and they're going, we're
arresting you over the Epstein
files.
He goes, uh oh.
And they go because of the
documents.
He goes what I.
Didn't touch any kids.
The documents, Yeah, yeah,
documents.
I did it.
I did the documents.
If that's the one I'm getting
for the Epstein files, take me,
take me.
I'm going.
Yes, I admit I took the files.
Well, one of the big
conspiracies about the whole
Epstein thing is the fact that
there's this leverage that
blackmailing and getting Intel
on all the powers that be and
all this other stuff.
So does this like further kind
of continue that aspect, right?
Like, hey, does this prove that
there's blackmailing going on in
this during in this whole
island?
Did you see the list of names
that they released on who all
was in the files?
No, I just get my news from you.
Well, the list was too long to
go over here, but I mean it's
it's like 3 typed pages and it's
3 columns on each page.
Really.
It's amazing.
Some of the names that are on
it, really it did.
Something like this goes on,
nobody knows about it, so
there's got to be something
else.
There's got to be another one
somewhere that somebody else
did.
This can't be the only guy who
had a secret island where he
took people and they did things.
What was the name on the list
that surprised you the most that
you saw?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't remember now, but there
was the number of women on the
list was a little disturbing.
There was more than I thought
there was going to be.
Yeah, why would you say that?
Well, from what you hear was
going on, you don't hear about
them Barry.
You know, no little boy is stood
up and said, you know, some lady
grabbed my Wiener on the island.
Yeah.
It's all been girls that have
come forward.
Well, maybe they said it, but
they just said like, hey, some
way to grab my Wiener.
What?
I got to go do they're like,
that's illegal.
We're gonna get her.
I banged the movie.
Star the other day.
All right, you're. 15 I know it.
Yeah, that's exactly how they'd
probably do the teacher ones.
It's not like they really tell
them.
It's like they brag about it.
Yeah.
I banged Mrs. Mcgillicuddy the
other day.
Right.
Oh, really?
What I'm telling?
Right.
She wouldn't take me back to the
room.
Some guy who's jealous it didn't
happen to him.
Yeah, right.
I get it right.
Makes sense.
So there's two things I find
kind of funny about this whole
situation with the Prince Andrew
thing.
Yeah, 1 The Clintons just
testified.
They did.
Yeah, did.
This arrest, yeah, they
testified like I think it was
last week sometime, OK.
And now arrests are going to
start being made.
You think so?
Well, one already happened.
What was the arrest?
Prince Andrew.
Oh, is that based on Clinton
information?
They were testifying with the
Epstein files.
Is this so they don't get in
trouble because they're both?
You know, you know, that's what
I that's that's what I'm saying.
Like I think like they made a
deal kind of thing like.
States evidence.
Yeah, 'cause, you know, the
Clintons were involved in
everything, allegedly.
Allegedly.
Allegedly, yeah.
I don't want to come get me.
Oh.
Don't know how much you value
your life?
And sudden butt dies in a
horrible bare alligator
accident.
Well, there was like a there's
this guy in Ocala.
He's like a big land mogul.
Like he owns a lot of land.
He's in the files.
Yeah, Yeah.
And they're, they're actually
looking to go arrest him based
off of some information, I
guess, that the Ocala man was
giving to Epstein.
Is this Prince in the United
States?
No, no, no, he's in.
We didn't arrest the United
States.
No, we didn't arrest him.
He got arrested in England.
Yeah, the Bobbys, Yeah, but this
could be a whole international
thing.
OK.
But you're saying that there
have been arrests, but there
hasn't been any arrests in the
United States.
No, not yet.
But this could, this is going to
be an International Day.
So there's going to be an
Interpol FBI.
It's it's going to, yeah, it's
going to be a whole thing, R.
DJ.
RDJ.
OK, I don't think anything.
There's a a a billionaire who
owns a company that takes school
photos.
Several schools have cancelled
their photos because his name's
on the list.
Oh yeah, yeah, there was 1 here
like Seminole or something,
right?
Yeah, Yeah.
Well, that's, it's good to see
social justice as long as it's
accurate, right.
So yeah.
I mean, does is everybody on the
list?
We assume Winton had pedophile
stuff.
I don't think so.
I think what it does is it gives
them probable cause.
I think that's what everybody's
thinking.
I mean, if you're on the list,
you must have touched a child.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't think so.
I.
Mean that's a hell of a with a
lot of names, yeah.
Well, you're, oh, you're saying
the mass of the population
thinks that?
Yeah.
Yeah, 'cause all the list does
when they actually can get the
names from it just gives them
probable cause of looking
further.
Well.
They have all this information,
do they not?
Yeah, but it has to be brought
into a, into the, into a case,
into a courtroom for them to be
able to further.
Where did they?
I must have missed this part of
the news, but where did they get
all this information?
I mean, I know they arrested him
and everything.
Did he just have boxes and boxes
of things sitting somewhere?
I guess they pulled the files
from somewhere.
No, no.
Remember how all this started?
He had like an assistant.
Yeah.
Yeah, and the assistant.
She's in jail.
Yeah, she remember, she gave.
All this she's a brunette lady.
Yeah, she gave all this
information.
I think she made a deal is what
she did.
She kept all the files.
Wow.
There's always somebody.
Never, never keep a record.
Right.
Yeah, wild.
OK, well I hope to see some
justice in all this.
What is the statue of
limitations on this?
I mean, it's been going on
forever.
I have no idea.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's a good question.
Just throwing it out there if
someone wants to comment.
No, I'm not being in defensive
attacking you.
I'm just saying I don't know.
Yeah, I don't.
I know that you take everything
I say is an attack on you.
Pretty much.
OK.
Carry on, all right?
A lady chucked A cinder block
through someone's car in Palm
Bay.
She was handcuffed and put in
the car and then they catch her
eating cocaine she had hiding in
her pants.
Oh.
There's a lot that just happened
in that whole situation.
So the the lady throws A cinder
block through a car.
We don't know why she throws it
through a car.
She's still there.
The police show up, they take
her, they handcuff her behind
her back and put her in the
police car to take her to jail.
So somehow she gets her hands
and her gets the cocaine out of
the back of her pant.
Just starts eating the cocaine.
I don't understand the logistics
of how this.
That's pretty impressive.
It works.
Well, at least we know why she
threw the cinder block through
the chill at this point.
Oh wait, not cocaine.
They get her into booking and
then she tells him that she's
got more cocaine in her prison
purse.
Oh.
That's where she normally keeps
it, apparently.
Was it really there or was she
just wanting to go in the purse?
Oh, no, it was really there.
Oh.
Do you think it was actually her
that one portion of cocaine was
in her back pocket?
I don't think it was.
Well, if they handcuffed her
behind her back, I I don't know
how she ate the cocaine in her
pants.
She didn't eat the cocaine in
her purse.
She had more cocaine in her
pants.
In her prison purse.
That's where she had the cocaine
she admitted to when she got
there.
The other cocaine they didn't
know she had, she ate in the
car.
She said, oh, I ate this in the
car.
No, they turned around and I
guess they see white stuff all
over her face and she got trying
to eat the cocaine.
Was there anything brown with
the white stuff?
I don't think so.
Why did she know the person who
she threw the cinder block into?
They don't know why there's no
they don't know why she threw
the cinder block.
She's probably high on the
cocaine.
She.
Was yeah, she's eating cocaine,
man.
Eating cocaine you want to throw
cinder blocks is what happens.
Just mentally unstable.
Hey, that's what happens when
you eat cocaine.
You think you're super strong,
you start throwing Cinder.
Blocks.
You think that?
You think that cocaine makes you
want to throw cinder blocks into
cars?
I think so.
Maybe this lady?
Yeah, she had been arrested
after throwing a cinder block
through the back of someone's
window.
And then she thought if she gave
up that she had stuff in her
prison purse, that she wasn't
going to get charged with it,
right?
Because she's being booked, she
told corrections staff that she
actually had a bag of cocaine
hidden in her.
Oh, jail purse.
Sorry, jail purse.
Sorry, I used.
To well, it turns into a prison
purse because it sounds like
that's a lot of days.
Right.
She's going from jail to prison,
so it gets an upgrade I guess,
right?
You'll be staying in the suite.
She she admitted even though she
had been handcuffed with her
hands behind her back while
being transported, she was able
to maneuver her hands enough to
eat some additional cocaine she
had concealed in her pants.
Amazing the stuff that goes on
in our world every day.
It's in Florida, it's in Palm
Bay.
I was, I was going to say, is
this a Florida man?
That was Palm Bay.
Big shocker.
I love this state.
It's.
The best state.
So as a result, she faces
charges of criminal mischief and
introduction of controlled
substance into a detention
facility.
She told them outside she had
the stuff in her purse.
Right.
A possession of a controlled
substance and tampering with
evidence that she ate some of
it.
So yeah, what?
Do you think she does 90 days?
I don't.
Know more than 364?
No way you think she does it
over a year in prison for.
This.
Yeah, she's doing prison.
She got a lot of a lot of
charges here.
I doubt very seriously it's her
first offense.
Yeah.
Especially she's just biting
down.
I'm an old wifey.
And you know, she knew the term
jail purse, so.
She's a She's a frequent flyer.
Could very well be.
Yeah, she just coupon clipped
her 6th day, Yeah.
Maybe she threw the brick as a
way to I need to go in for a
little while because brick to a
car.
I need to rest.
I need to rest, I need to go on
vacation.
Mama needs a vacation. 3 squares
and a clean bed all.
Right, 3 squares in a clean bed.
Yeah, how much cocaine can you
eat before it kills you?
You know, that's a great
question.
I have no idea.
Please somebody comment on us.
Somebody comment please on me
how much cocaine you can eat.
Just get an idea.
Yeah.
You idiots, this is how much?
Clearly this is the amount of
cocaine, right?
Somebody just thought they were
stupid right?
Now.
This was an interesting story
but I don't know why it
happened.
But apparently Zuckerberg is
being is in front of a is going
to trial for some reason.
Or something.
I don't know why, but he claims
that he called.
What's the guy's name?
He called Tim Cook to discuss
the well-being of teens and
kids.
Tim, Tim Cook is the president
of Apple, so we called him to
get his opinions on on the
filters that they offer on
Instagram.
OK, so I'm going to be
Zuckerberg.
You're going to be Tim Cook.
Oh man, yeah.
But I don't even know what to
say.
That's OK.
It doesn't say Tim said anything
to me, guys.
All right, fair enough.
Go ahead, Sir.
Ring.
Ring.
Ring.
Hello.
Tim, hey, it's Zuck.
Hey Zuck, how are you do?
You like those filters I have on
Instagram?
You know the one where it makes
you like an elephant?
Makes you like a duck?
One of the zombies.
Really cool.
Come on, you got an iPhone?
You try this stuff all the time.
What are we talking about here,
Zuck?
I don't know the.
Filters on Instagram where you
can change the way you look.
The zombie one's pretty cool.
All right, well, I'm in a little
bit of trouble because there's
one that makes you look better
than you actually look.
And kids are wanting plastic
surgery.
Oh my God, seriously?
Yeah.
In a little bit of trouble here,
I think.
So that's what it's over.
The kids are seeing these
filters and it makes them look
better.
And then the kid mom.
I want plastic surgery to make
me look like this.
Holy moly.
How do they even know what
plastic surgery is?
Well, teenagers and not talking
to small children.
Right.
Oh God, that's a disaster.
Right.
You make these filters, you
think they're cute, funny little
thing, and next thing you know,
kids are using them as a reason
to change the way they.
Look how old is Sophia?
14.
So if a 14 year old approached
him and said hey, you know.
You know, I was about to ask the
same question that you're
thinking I was going to go.
What the Courtneys establish is
when should a teenager really
start thinking about plastic
surgery?
Never.
Never.
Right.
Yeah, that's.
As a dad, you're like, all
right, I'll get you.
I'll get this done for you.
No.
No, Yeah, Dad, I hate my nose.
Look at my nose.
I hate my nose.
Does does Phil sound like like
quite the attorney this this
episode a little bit, You know
what I mean?
He seems like very
knowledgeable.
Legal advice from.
From the pill, yeah.
I used to sit in federal
courtrooms all the time
listening to these people and
some of this stuff is just
retarded.
Just as a hobby.
No, no, no.
I was in the military.
I had to go to federal court all
time when we'd.
He was a grandmaster or
something.
Yeah, we arrest people because
it's a federal charge.
It's not a a a a regular state
or anything.
Did I get that term right?
What, Grandmaster?
What?
Were I'm not answering you.
What were you, Master?
Master at arms, Grandmaster.
Sounds like a white hooded
thing.
All different group, different
guys who don't get on boats.
Yeah, right.
Totally different set of people,
far worse.
Right.
OK.
So you got you got a video.
I do.
Oh, you thought you were going
to get away with not having a
video?
We had a video yesterday.
OK, so this guy. 2 for two.
Oh, he has to send it to us
though.
Yeah, so this is this is kind of
going around on social media.
This guy is like a YouTube
influencer.
You going to crash the car
again?
This is too long.
Just just watch the beginning of
it.
And he he had a little
interaction.
I'll give you a little bit of
back story.
From what I saw, he had an
interaction with Larry Wheels.
You know who Larry Wheels is?
No, no.
Larry Wheels is jacked dude.
Like he's a, he's a big, he's a
social media guy.
And, and this guy was like kind
of hitting on his wife and he's
like, dude, you need to stop.
And this, this guy's like half
the size and probably, you know,
1/4 of the size of Larry Wheels.
So Larry Wheels just kind of
slapped him.
And, you know, then there was
they were separated.
And then it fast forwards to
where he's at Rampage, I think,
I think this is at Rampage
Jackson's house, which is
another MMA guy.
And he was talking to this other
MMA dude.
And go ahead and watch the
video.
Nice to meet you bro.
You do know who I am.
I don't know why you lying.
Don't know why you don't know
me.
You definitely know me.
Yeah, I just don't.
I don't be lying because girls
around and shit.
You definitely know me bro.
Not even on some disrespectful
shit, but I.
Don't like your attitude?
I don't like your fucking I.
Don't like you at all though.
Yeah, straight up.
What?
I said straight up.
Are you the guy that got slapped
on?
I think my brother, I'll slap
the shit out, you know?
I did see you.
The inside.
I'll make no, I'll put you, I'll
make you another clip.
I'll do that.
Seriously.
I'll do that.
Oh, OK, so.
This guy, the guy, no, the guy
he's talking to is a former
former MMA fighter, right the.
Little guy.
No the.
Big guy.
And like this, this other guy,
he's a YouTube influencer, kind
of turned boxer and he's fast
apparently he's got good
technique or whatever from what
I read.
But like to say the things that
he has said and to guys twice
his size that I mean that guy
is, is a fighter.
Right.
Oh yeah.
Well, I would have to agree with
you.
He had great technique when he
took that punch.
It's kind of like his jaw
popped.
Well, he's got a mic right by
him.
Like his whole body.
Sounds like a bone broke.
I didn't have it up very loud.
So he's talking smack about the
guy's wife that's with him.
No, that was the previous one.
This all happened in a 24 hour
period.
So this one, like, you know, it
started off kind of nice and
then all of a sudden it took a
while turn and this guy's, you
know, Dean the Great I think is
his name.
That's the little guy, yeah.
He started making comments like,
oh, you know, well, he goes,
didn't you just get slapped by
Larry Wills with the other guy?
And he goes, yeah, well, you
know, I'll make a clip out of
you, too, or something like
that.
And the guy's like, are you
serious?
And he's like, yeah.
And he takes a sip of his drink
or whatever, just trying to be,
I don't know what.
And the guy's like, OK, boom.
And just.
Oh, as soon as he turned, he
gave him perfect angle for it.
Yeah, just lit him right up.
That was solid contact.
Yeah, You know, I don't know
what people are thinking.
The guy is twice your size and
you can't.
Right, you're talking like this.
And you think that what because
of the because you're recording
that this is a.
Like yeah, that guy don't care.
You're going to be like, you
could tell that, I don't know,
Like he makes his comment and
kind of sips his drink and steps
back.
Like he knows that things are
escalating.
At that point I'm like, dude.
Right.
You're too close.
You're too close, man.
Why would you?
Why would you say?
Why would you say those like
people honestly believe that
they can say whatever?
Right.
And there's no repercussions at
all.
Yeah.
Well, now everybody knows that
there are repercussions for what
you say.
Well, I mean dude, you know,
like.
That age group has a big
problem.
I would never, ever, ever be
disrespectful to especially a
fighter, you know?
Yeah, well, if you've noticed,
like with the newer generation,
right, they are definitely way
more disrespectful than we were
when we were kids.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, no doubt.
I mean, they think that they can
get out of trouble.
Nothing can hurt them.
You know, like, you know, back
in the day when we were kids, we
knew that we got into a fight.
The first thing we're doing is
running afterwards because we
know either the cops are coming
or we're getting in trouble by
somebody, right?
The kids nowadays, they don't
care.
They'll, they'll stand up to the
police or they'll fight the
police.
You've seen videos of that?
You can't touch me.
Yeah, when you were a kid, you
didn't think you were
invincible.
In certain things, but not
against like fighting people and
stuff, you know, like are
they're talking junk?
I don't know whatever you want
to call it.
The little guy looks like he's
in his 20's.
The bigger guy looks older.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, well, the bigger guy is
he's a third.
Grade is 25.
That's the little guy.
Yeah, the big guy looks in his
late 30s, maybe 40s.
He's probably in his 40s.
It's.
Like punk Pip.
And let me see here big.
Bald guy with die goatee, look
that up, yeah.
I'm trying to get his name I'll.
Put in big bald guy with die
goatee who punches little little
guys in face.
Tim Goshen, former MMA fighter
Oh Tiki.
Sorry, Tiki Goshen Tiki Tiki.
I'm making fun of his name I.
Don't know if I messed with a
guy named Tiki.
I'm not messing with that guy.
I don't care what his name is.
It could be Louise.
I don't care.
Tiki's about to light you up.
Tiki going to break my jaw.
Tiki is 49 years.
Old.
He's almost 50.
There you go, he's my age.
Ish.
He knows exactly where to punch
you in the jaw. 10/8 No.
Exactly where to hit you with
what part of his hand?
His hand didn't even hurt after.
That well, now it's 11/8 and oh.
I don't know what we're doing,
man.
I don't know what's going on in
society, man.
It's crazy world today.
That matter, gravity's going to
end.
And then we got Killer Meteor.
So we're fine.
Yeah.
Are they going to wipe all these
punks out?
All right, on the cigar news, do
you want to do your part first?
Yes.
So we went ahead and we reviewed
who we believe as the top five
reviewers in the space in the in
this particular kind of category
because we're going to review
another five.
We're going to do bear, we're
going to do developing pallets,
you know, and. 2nd tier, what
are you saying?
Yeah, like you know, well you
have these.
Well, these guys are I would say
that these guys are definitely
bigger and then the other guys
are more like Blogger YouTube
format esque, right.
So what we did?
So three of us sat down and we
rated Cigar Snob, Half Wheel,
Cigar Press Dojo and Coop.
Yes.
To come to the conclusion of who
do we feel rated the best for
cigars in that category?
So top five top.
Five top five S 5 wait, wait, we
all stay in top five.
Go ahead.
All right.
Why are we all stay in top five
I.
Don't know so.
'Cause it's top five.
Without further ado, should I go
backwards 5 to 1?
Sure.
Yes.
Coming in at 5th place.
Wait, wait, wait.
I think I know who's in fifth.
Maybe we should go 1:00 to 5:00.
Hold on hold.
On No No 5, go one.
Let me back this up, back this
up.
Full disclaimer, we're not
attacking anybody here.
We're just simply stating.
No personal grudges anywhere.
We're just simply stating when
we looked at the cigars, how we
felt, which one was the best and
which one was the worst.
Yeah, cause 'cause we rated each
cigar.
Yep, we didn't even look at the
names, right?
Right.
There were no names on them.
We looked at.
Here's how.
You had the names.
Right here's how we rated it.
We looked at the cigars and we
gave the cigars A0 through 50,
thinking that it didn't belong
on a top 25 list anywhere.
And five was like a yes,
definitely.
Now of that, we only did the top
ten of everybody's top 25.
So we did 10, right?
OK. 10 So coming in at #5 Wow,
dude, you got to laugh.
I'm sorry, I don't, I don't know
who's number 5, I have no clue.
You've not seen the your
culmination of the skull.
You haven't seen everything
combined?
No, I.
Know what it is, I just knew my
paper.
And I think the number one's
going to surprise you.
Cigar Coupe came in at #5 Yeah.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
You're the 5th best one we saw.
Hey, you know, I mean there's
more than 5 S 5's.
Not a bad number to be in.
Well, at least he made the list,
right?
Which is something that I can't
say about any Roma craft or post
on a cigar on his top 25.
List, but it's I won't even say
the part where there's no
personal grudges again.
There isn't.
Yeah, but you just added that
part makes it sound like there
is.
It's kind of funny.
Well, it's just funny to me.
Yeah, it's very funny.
Well, still.
Actually it's the opposite.
I'm here.
We are including him on a list
when he refuses to acknowledge
us.
Like ha ha funny or funny
looking?
OK, coming in at #4 and this and
I'm going to tell you right now
#4 and #3 had a one point
difference I should make.
A hat.
Or buy one.
You don't even have to make it.
Buy one.
Yeah. #4 it was cigar snob.
Oh, they don't watch?
Yeah, they only say our name
when we send them free cigars.
Maybe we should send them this
clip?
And then I have some interesting
facts that we're going to talk
about when we're done here to
kind of review too.
Coming in at #3, which is just
one point above Cigar Snob, was
the Cigar Dojo.
Oh.
No comments there, huh?
I can't say his last name.
OK.
Yeah.
Coming in at #2. #2.
And here's the the shocker. 00.
Half wheel, half.
Wait.
Really.
Number one, I know what number 1
is.
The half wheel came in at #2.
You know, you know, I'm going to
say before you say who number
one is, I, I.
It's well deserved.
Is well deserved.
Oh, OK.
Number one is well deserved.
You're just moving on to the
half wheel conversation.
Yeah, he's just not talking
about that.
He's moving.
On, you know, half wheel is
good.
I think they're good, but I
think they are still bound.
You think they're bound?
By some things.
I don't think they're bound.
I don't think you.
Don't think at all.
I don't think they're bound.
I think that they're extremely
diverse.
I think they do a great job of
covering.
When I looked at their reviews,
when I looked over it again, I
was like, I'm going to tell you
before I go to the number one
spot, half wheel for me ranked
the highest.
Oh, out of yours?
Yep, half wheel for me ranked
the highest and it was by a lot.
Ironically enough.
Your guys's votes.
Changed it with the.
No, with the exception of one,
we're about one point difference
from each other, one way or the
other.
Yeah, yeah.
Palmer did his way before me.
Mine was laying on the table and
then he did.
His which is incredible.
No, I didn't look at your.
Paper I just got to change the
score once or twice so nobody
will.
Know it took me forever to do
mine anyways.
And then coming in at #1 was
cigar press.
On the phone from the Dominican
Republic right now, Fred Ruiz?
No, he's.
Not ah, thank you guys, thank
you, thank you hang.
On Hang on everybody, look at my
shoes.
So so here and again.
Here's the interesting part.
Cigar Press came in for number 2
for me, but Cigar Press ranked
number one for the both of you
guys.
Oh.
Yeah, I think I like the cigars
on it just.
His overall selection, you're
like, yeah, OK, yeah.
Yeah, I've had more of these.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause if, like if
it was on one of the other
lists, I never had it.
I didn't give it a 0, I did give
it a one because it still made a
list, so I did a you know.
Weird analogy there, but OK.
I gave it a 0 if I'd never heard
of it before.
OK, because you felt that it
didn't, I mean, if it if it had
not hit your radar throughout
the course of the year, right,
that means that nobody talked
about it to you, right?
You didn't catch it on social
media, right?
You didn't see it anywhere,
right.
So you felt that it would have
deserved a zero at that point,
right?
I think that that's fair.
The Gimme ones.
I'm immersed in the immediate
knowledge of the industry
because of this so.
He's very immersed.
I'm very immersed, he.
Didn't tell me about Ash on my
last show by the way.
You have Ashley.
If Half Wheel could put more
stories out faster, that'd be.
I appreciate that a lot.
That'd be.
Nice.
So yeah.
So congratulations to Fred Roue.
Congratulations, Fred Roue.
Of Cigar Press and the Dominican
Republic.
Great job.
And yeah, I mean, for me, half
wheel was well above everybody
else.
Could you tell me what cigar you
like best on half wheel?
No.
Oh, OK, That's a dumb question.
That's a dumb question.
What was the second best cigar
you liked on half wheel?
Probably the OR the.
They're #1.
Oh, did you have that?
No.
Oh, you just liked it?
Look, here's what I can tell you
as far as a brand and a cigar
that's probably always going to
deliver.
Pedrone belongs on that
conversation.
Sure.
So, you know, it's not like I'm
not going to say any other name
brands.
I almost did, but it's not like
I looked at it and said that
cigar took number one over mine.
Wow.
You know, you know, if you drop
Pedrone, I'm like, OK, but you
know, the Matildes, I think they
always do well.
I think they're good cigars.
The the the Questa.
I think the Questa never gets
enough attention.
And I think that that's more the
Angel Quest.
I think that's more along the
lines of kind of failure to be
in market and involved with
consumers.
Yeah, I've never that doesn't
stop.
That didn't stop half wheel from
giving it a nod, right.
So yeah, yeah, that's where I'm
at.
So we're going to do another one
with the Blogger type guys. 2nd
tier people that.
I didn't want to say second tier
Polymer.
Jesus for you, you ranked Dojo
over half wheel.
You felt that?
Yep.
Probably heard more of Dojo
cigars.
And then half wheel for you.
You put half wheel over Dojo by
1.
Yep.
So it's very, I mean you guys, a
lot of your numbers were kind of
similar except for one
particular individual.
Don't know which one that is.
No, we don't.
It could be anybody.
Could be anybody, but man, this
cigar press guy, he's kind of
pushy.
But hey, you know what, guys?
Please keep doing what you're
doing.
Keep.
Keep on.
Everybody keep going.
Yeah, we're, you know, it's an
honor to review the reviewers.
So please continue forward.
We're going to work on, you
know, the upcoming weeks to do
the top five from, you know,
Bear.
I know I said Bear and I said
who else?
I said cigar developing palates.
Conehead is another one.
Conehead.
Yeah.
Oh, he's a big one.
How about the Smokey guys that
keep commenting all our stuff?
Oh yeah, real smoke pod.
Yeah, they've earned that slot.
Epicurean smokes.
Is Epicurean smokes a reviewer?
I believe so.
If he is, then yeah.
We're the cigar guy screwing.
That up, Sorry if I'm screwing
that up.
So we'll figure that out.
We may have to do a little bit
more than five.
We'll see.
Gotcha.
OK, cigar News.
All right, JC Newman premieres
chapter one of the American
story.
They have put out a 5 minute
video.
I don't know how many chapters
there are.
They're not saying, but they
have done a video about making
the American.
Oh, it opens up, it's done.
It's shot very nicely.
It's edited well.
Shut up with Bobby Newman
sitting on a stool.
They should have given him a
chair.
Yeah, why?
Because he's all slumped over.
Oh no.
It doesn't.
It's not the best look Bobby's
ever had, the young Bobby,
right?
So he's talking about the cigar,
some of the cigar.
He's in the factory, sitting on
the stool.
He slumped over.
And then they cut to the evil
empire in a tobacco field and I
turned it.
Off And that's where they lost
you.
They lost.
Me too, it was a horror movie.
It was a horror movie, it looked
like.
Yeah, some monsters standing in
a field.
Got scary at that point.
It got scary.
He kept touching the tobacco.
It was weird.
Like tickling it and grabbing
the bottom of it.
Kind of, yeah.
Pinching at it and stuff.
Getting the ice out, yeah.
It's a new multi part docu
series.
They're making up words too.
Subling the journey behind I'm
sorry.
Docu series is a real word.
I don't.
Think so?
Find The American, the first and
only 100% all American cigar.
The short documentary series
travels from the tobacco fields
of Lancaster, PA to El Reloch,
the last remaining cigar factor
in United States.
So I'm interested to see the 2nd
chapter and make sure he's not
in it.
Docking series is in the
dictionary.
It is now.
I didn't say they made it up
today.
OK, We should do a movie.
Yeah, yeah.
Of what?
Have you and Greg on a boat
coming from Poland?
You're wearing a tattered jacket
and you both have those hats on
that you don't like Greg to
wear.
Just have AI do it then or
something.
Is this kind of like a piggy
blinders like?
Yeah, like a spin off blinders
guy thing.
Right I I have ideas for movies
and videos and stuff that.
I know we we had a storyboard at
one time.
On the Yeah, I remember there
was one point, yeah.
We have a very expensive piece
of equipment that's for sale now
if you'd like to buy it that we
had to have.
Oh.
Yeah, which one's that the?
Which one's that?
Gimbal.
Yeah.
Which one?
That the gimbal you move it
around with the the the camera
space.
Yeah.
I think Chet and I used it once
on one of our videos we made
None of that.
It's never been used.
Nice.
Wait until we're going to change
out our board here soon.
Change our board out of a stick.
Here.
Oh yeah.
I have a drone, yeah, that we've
never really used either.
The one.
Time train.
He bought a drone.
Well, nothing stops you from
buying stuff.
I mean, you bought a 3D printer.
You buy.
You buy all kinds of crazy
things.
Yeah, but I did make some cool
war bears with that.
Yeah, you did.
We have one.
One is painted.
When somebody else made the
created the thing for you to
print.
Well, that yeah, yeah.
Which you also paid for.
Right.
All right, Gurkha announces a
price increase for four
Nicaraguan made lines.
They informed Theresa Tablers
they will be implementing a
price increase on a handful of
Nicaraguan made lines.
How come just a handful?
Why not all of them?
I don't know.
It's their classic Havana blend,
the heritage Maduro heritage
natural and the legend 1959.
None of this means anything to
me because I'm not familiar
with.
The price lines.
Me neither.
But it is weird that it's just
those 4.
It is a little strange, maybe
those are their most producing.
Ones or something.
I don't think it's producers or
something.
I mean, I've never heard of any
of those.
The tobacco went up.
All right, guess how much of an
increase?
I'm going to say 9%.
Boots or fell?
Are we doing percentages?
Yes, percentage. 18. 18.
Isn't that the tariff?
OK, try again, Michael.
No, he doesn't get a second try.
If I'm closer, I win.
You won't get a second try. 5%.
You're going down all right,
Phil. 10%.
All right, we can't.
I don't know who wins because
they're not saying how much it
is.
Oh, we have no idea.
We have no.
Idea what it is oh OK our.
Suppliers have made necessary
price changes that we can no
longer absorb while maintaining
the quality and consistency you
expect.
So I mean, is there a quality?
So there's a we're expecting.
From so there's a price
increase.
Price increase that was from the
president, Jim Gallucci.
But we don't know what the
pricing.
Is we're not saying how much it
is.
But we wanted to announce.
That we're having one.
That'll be more money.
More money and it goes to an
effect on March 2nd.
Very well put together.
So wait till March 2nd to see
how much it is.
But we wanted to announce that.
Wanted to make sure that you
know, but you can still get the
steak knives and the backpack
and the coffee cups.
It's same.
It's no increase there.
No increase on the coffee.
As we still have those.
There's definitely an increase
in the coffee cups.
We still have them.
We have them, They don't.
We don't order any new ones.
We ordered too many.
Tariffs have gone up.
We ordered too many.
OK.
We have a lot of the blue ones.
A lot of the blue ones, huh?
Yes, and the green backpacks and
the steak knives.
OK, All right.
Pro Cigar is going on right now.
Yes.
So I wanted to know what Pro
Cigar was.
OK, nobody's saying you.
Don't know what pro cigar is.
I mean, I know it's a Dominican
Republic cigar thing, but
nobody's saying how it started
or why they do it.
It's they're just saying it's
one of three and this year only
two of them are happening.
Pro Cigar is the biggest one.
Depends on who you ask.
If you ask the pro Cuba people
they think they're the biggest
but they have oil problems.
They nobody can go there.
Yeah, they didn't even do it
this year.
It's been postponed.
It's not canceled.
Everybody keeps saying it's
canceled.
It's postponed.
But for $2500, you too can go to
Pro Cigar.
Really.
Yes.
What's that include?
Cost to attend each of the four
nightly activities, tours during
the day, transportation to and
from the hotel, lunch, dinner,
an open bar, some swag, and
conservatively, because some
factories are nicer than others,
around 50 cigars.
Conservative number of 50.
Conservatively, it's a low
number because some give you 2,
some give you boxes.
Right.
So it depends on which tours you
take and which factories you go
to.
Would you go to Pro Cigar?
Somebody paid the $2500 and flew
me there.
Yeah, sure.
I don't.
Do you think you have to pay if
you're in the industry?
No.
Everybody has to pay to go.
Don't.
They everybody has to.
Pay.
Everybody has to pay.
I don't know about that.
Didn't you go one year?
No, I went to.
You went to Nico Sabar.
Pureos Yeah, No, you went.
To the one in Nicaragua.
Yeah, that's that's what it's
called.
Nico Sabar.
Pureos Sabar no.
No, it's in Nicaragua.
OK.
I don't.
I don't know if you have to pay
to attend if you're in the
industry, I don't think you do,
but I know you do have to pay to
be in it to show your stuff or
whatever.
Oh, OK.
Well, I mean, you know, if you
went, maybe you didn't partake
in all the events or whatever,
you just came, went down.
I'm sure there's a lot of people
that just go down.
Yeah, the $2500 does not include
airfare or hotel.
Right.
You just go and mingle into the
parties.
Yeah, hi.
But this is the one that has the
famous.
White Party with the tan pants.
So everybody, the important
question we're all waiting to
see is will Will Cooper and Eric
Gutterson wear white pants?
Will they wear the white pants?
And the white shirt.
They've had plenty of notice.
We're waiting to see.
The answer is no.
It's a very important industry
information we need to find out,
so we will update you as the
information becomes available.
It is a four day event.
I think it's a four day event.
Sounds good to.
Me 4 day event.
So hopefully in the the next
three days we'll get pictures.
So, Charlie, if you're listening
to our show, we could use a
photo of what they're wearing.
Or anybody else please.
No, everybody else wears white.
They too stay stick out like a
sort of thing.
No, I mean anybody else that's
listening?
Everybody else is there.
Fred Roue, if you were there, we
just voted your magazine the
number one reviewer.
Oh, look at you.
We just got to play.
You got to play the angles,
Michael.
Two weeks ago he complained.
When you're talking about them
enough, now just you know,
something happens and now he's
the number one reviewer.
Yeah.
I'm not saying something didn't
happen.
OK.
But you stopped eating sweets 2
days ago.
It's just yesterday.
Well, I meant today and
yesterday.
Yeah.
So we could have bribed you with
M&M's.
Yeah, not anymore.
Not anymore.
Not until Easter.
All right, now it's time for
what's up.
Oh come on man, you went too
quick into it.
You.
Usually give us the.
The The industry's favorite
game?
What's?
The score.
I really don't feel good today.
Yeah, obviously.
Hey, the first cigar or the only
cigar?
November 30th, 2014.
It is reviewed by Brian Burt.
It is a limited edition and
Nicaraguan cigar.
It's the 262 cigars.
Mr. Pink.
Part of these it's got a star on
it.
Am I going first?
Yeah, since you've heard of it.
89.
Have we ever done a Brian's?
Cigar brain, Yes.
We've done one or two others, as
you mentioned the other day that
we'd ever do 1, so I found one.
Yeah, that easy to hear that?
86. 86 and when did you say?
Mine 89.
Cigar Review.
The 262 Mr. Paint Country of
Origin and Nicaragua Factory
Tablicalera Carrera rapper
Brazilian Monofina Binder
Honduras Filler Colombian
Nicaragua size 6 1/2 by 42.
It's a Lonsdale and he smoked 2.
A lot of positives here.
Brazilian Matapina, good size.
Lonsdale, I'm.
Going to stay 89. 87.
Clue #1 The Brazilian wrapper is
beautifully applied with a
smooth, oily texture and minimal
veining, delivering an
attractive presentation and a
firm feel with just the right
amount of give.
Phil got excited and it was
very.
Is this the veiny guy?
That's how we remember this guy.
Now the.
Veiny guy.
He's he's the guy that has all
the veins.
Very Vascular 89. 87.
Clue #2 The flavor profile is
consistently engaging
throughout, led by bold black
pepper, sweet spice, creamy
chocolate, earth and espresso
notes, supported by solid smoke
production and an overall smooth
character despite the strength.
What is sweet spice?
It's spice that's sweet.
Oh, thank you for clearing that
up.
Yeah, like honey hot.
Oh honey, hot.
Yeah, like honey hot.
That's what I call my wife.
Honey hot.
Honey hot.
That's why you're in such a good
mood yesterday.
Went in a good mood yesterday
either. 90.
Oh, sweating over here like
crazy.
I will stick at 87.
There a problem there with your
hand.
That bother you A?
Little bit clue #3 Construction
was inconsistent across samples
with minor underfilling and
flaky ash and spots.
It was a slightly muddled
flavour profile in the final
inch that wasn't as enjoyable as
earlier thirds. 86.
Oh wow, that was a big jump
down.
A lot was said there it.
Said minor underfilling.
Flaky, ash, inconsistent,
muddled.
Use the word muddled.
Muddled I'm I'm going to stay at
87.
Final thought, I enjoyed the 262
line, so I'm looking forward to
trying the new size, a Lonsdale
size that I love.
Though there were some odd
construction issues with each
sample, the profile made sure
those issues weren't what I
focused on.
With flavors that melded nicely
together throughout the majority
of the cigar, it's certainly
something I would like to get
more of.
Luckily these are still
available, so if the cigar
sounds like something you would
enjoy, I wouldn't hesitate in
picking them up before the
Humanor sells out.
I like Brian. 88.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause you know,
this is going to definitely Pell
a little bit higher.
Brian does not care about the
flakiness.
Well, brain going double brain
revving.
It up, he's revving it up. 87.
You went the wrong way 89.
Another W OK, where you going to
be this weekend?
Shirtless is Mike birthday on
the 22nd over Smoke Ring 70.
Two Sorry, say that again.
Smoke Ring, 72 on Sunday.
Whose birthday is it?
Where's it at?
Shirtless Mike Where's Smoke
Ring 72?
It's in Melbourne I believe.
OK, what about where's your
Northside event?
On the 25th from 1:00 to 5:00,
you're going to be at North Port
Cigars in North Port, FL from
1:00 to 5:00.
One to five?
Anything else to add?
Nope.
We have a big LFD event here at
the Cigar Hustler.
Yeah, at the end of the month.
Yeah.
Still tickets available.
Yep, come on down like and
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Show Notes
On today’s show Prince Andrew is in Jail, you don’t tell them you have cocaine! Meta Call Apple on the phone then in cigars We have a new movie being released, Ghurka has a price increase and pro sober starts days 1….all this and a what’s the score but first Mikey how do we get some of that CHPOD swag!