ACHP Episode 473 Besties? Meta and Cigars
Episode Summary
Episode 473 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens on a somber note, with Mike Palmer, Michael, Phil McGuffey and Mikey sending condolences to Erik Espinosa on the passing of his father — and lighting up 601 Blue Label in his honor. From there the crew tackles the day's biggest business story for cigar retailers: the Supreme Court's 6-3 decision that President Trump lacked the authority to impose sweeping tariffs by executive action. A surprise call-in from Nick of Cigar Den in New Jersey turns into a candid debate about whether the tariff will actually disappear and, more importantly, whether cigar prices will ever come back down. The consensus from both sides of the phone: manufacturers and retailers have already absorbed and repriced around the tariff, so don't expect relief at the register.
The middle of the show veers into current events and media: the Trump–Epstein statue reappearing on the National Mall, calls for the Epstein list over UFO disclosure headlines, and the Los Angeles trial where a judge admonished Mark Zuckerberg's legal team for wearing Ray-Ban Meta AI camera glasses into the courtroom. That leads into a genuinely thoughtful discussion about Meta, YouTube and compulsive social media use by kids, cyberbullying (including a personal family experience), and parental responsibility. The guys also give a shout-out to YouTube reviewer Epicurean Smoke, who supplied hard data on Half Wheel's 2025 scoring — how many 91+ ratings Charlie Minato, Patrick Lagreid and Brooks Whittington each handed out, and the fact that only one cigar hit 93 in 2025.
Cigar news is light, but the crew covers German Engineered Cigars' 10th anniversary release, the RVGN Extreme, debuting at PCA 2026 — a Mexican-grown Cuban-seed wrapper over a Dominican olor binder with Dominican piloto cubano and Nicaraguan Corojo 98 filler, made at Inter Cigar S.A. in the Dominican Republic in a single 6 1/4 x 52 vitola.
The episode closes with a full round of "What's the Score?", the crew's Half Wheel score-guessing game. First up is Patrick Lagreid's review of the Aladino Cameroon Lonsdale from JRE Tobacco (Honduras), praised for red pepper and spice but dinged for lacking the classic sweet-and-spicy interplay of African-grown Cameroon. Then comes Charlie Minato's 2016 review of the Davidoff Especiales No. 7 Robusto Real — revealed as an astonishing 99, the highest score anyone on the show has seen from Half Wheel. Plus upcoming appearances at Northport Cigar Lounge in Florida and Humidor Fine Cigars and Bo Weevil Cigars in Alabama.
In This Episode
- 01Condolences to Erik EspinosaThe crew shares condolences on the passing of Erik Espinosa's father and smokes 601 Blue Label in his honor.
- 02Supreme Court Strikes Down Trump TariffsA 6-3 ruling says the tariffs were imposed illegally — but the guys argue the money and the price increases aren't coming back.
- 03Call-In: Nick from Cigar DenNick from Cigar Den in New Jersey calls live to debate whether cigar prices will ever drop even if the tariff is unwound.
- 04Epstein Files, Statues and UFO DisclosureThe Trump–Epstein statue on the National Mall, Banksy-style stunt art, and why alien headlines feel like a distraction.
- 05Epicurean Smoke Drops Half Wheel DataA YouTube reviewer supplies real numbers on Half Wheel's 2025 reviews — 91+ ratings by Charlie Minato, Patrick Lagreid and Brooks Whittington.
- 06Meta, YouTube and Kids on Social MediaA judge scolds Zuckerberg's team for wearing Ray-Ban Meta glasses in court, sparking a real talk on cyberbullying and parenting.
- 07German Engineered Cigars RVGN ExtremeThe 10th anniversary regular production release for PCA 2026, its blend details, and price guesses from the crew.
- 08What's the Score? Full GameGuessing Half Wheel scores on the Aladino Cameroon Lonsdale and the Davidoff Especiales No. 7 Robusto Real — which landed a rare 99.
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Transcript
Welcome to Cigar Hustler Podcast, Episode 473, I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and I will continue to interrupt, Michael, throughout the episode. That's what you wanted me to say yesterday, you said. Yes. Yes.
Is that what I said? With me today is Phil. I'm the most popular one on the show now, McGuffey. Hello, people.
Over in engineering. There's my co-host, Mikey. Please join my league. Step on.
I don't have a league. I don't have a league. Yeah. com.
com. Yes. Double aggressive. hello everybody hello before we get further into this um i know that this recording is going to release on monday but we record on friday and unfortunately eric Espinosa's father has passed away yes i saw that so our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family dude and we're very sorry for your loss it's never easy to lose a father no matter how old you are so that's it man You know, I hope, I don't know man, there are no words, there are no words, so sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss, we're here for you. I'm going to smoke this 601 Blue in the honor of Eric's dad. Oh, just you. Yes.
Orlando. No, no, I have one too. Oh, just not me. Sorry, Palmer.
That's all right. We thought you were a sickie, so. You don't smoke on the show. No.
Otherwise, I would have brought you one. Oh, all right. I didn't have a cigar yesterday when our friend was here. Yeah, but we were hanging out.
That's different. No, I mean, that was the first one I've had since I've been sick. Yeah, I saw that. How was it?
It tasted good. I mean, I just felt it was appropriate because he never, it's the second time in 20 years he's been here. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. We all stopped to hang out with that guy. Yeah. I mean, the whole shop just about shut down.
I'll tell you what, man, he's a hell of a dude, man. He really is. He is. He's super nice.
He's an incredible human being, so, yeah, it was cool to hang out, it was cool to hang out, even though I could only do it for a short period of time, I still got to stop and talk, so, okay. All right, on today's show, the Supreme Court says Trump tariffs no. Uh-oh. Trump and his bestie get a new statue, we're not alone out there in space, Zuck's back in the news, and then somebody has been naughty.
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Edutainment. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. The Supreme Court dealt a major blow to President Donald Trump's economic agenda.
This just happened today. They did, yeah. They said he does not have the authority to impose sweeping tariffs at the stroke of a pen. Okay.
The court on February 20th tossed tariffs at our centerpiece of his economic policy in a major foreign policy tool. So what do you think that means? Probably nothing. He'll just find some other way to do it.
They're already in play. Yeah, but the Supreme Court just said, stop, they don't, can't. Yeah, but they don't, they're not gonna walk them back. It did say that he had to refund some money to like Costco and another company like Revlon or?
Oh yeah? Revlon? Yeah. Who said that?
That's, uh, that's what the news is saying. What was, what news? I saw something. No, it was like, uh, NBC.
com or what? No. I saw a headline, but I, I didn't pay attention to it, but I, but Costco was mentioned. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think that this changes anything. You don't think there are things that... Well, the tariffs have to go away.
They said the way he did it's illegal. No. Well, they'll figure out a way to navigate through it. They'll get Congress or whatever to support it, and...
All right. Congress don't like him. Congress doesn't like him? I don't know.
I don't know what the balance is at the moment. I'm a little... It was a six to three vote on the... Tariffs.
We're podcasting. Okay, goodbye. This is Nick from Cigar Den. Hello, Nick.
This is Nick. There you go. I got fans? Are you live right now?
Yeah. We're not live. We pre-recorded for Monday. Are you recording right now?
Yeah, right now. See? What's up, Nick? That's so fucking cool.
I hope I make it onto the podcast. You just did. Yeah, you're on. You just did.
So, are you going to talk about tariffs on this podcast? Yeah, sure. We're talking about it right now. No, you're not.
You're fucking live. No, we really are. That's what we're talking about. We are.
Are you really? Yo, lower your prices, bro, cut the shit. You think that it's going to change? You think that the tariffs are going to change?
No, I made a video already saying that no matter what happens, they're not going to... I saw that you said that. Did you show my video? Yeah.
Yeah, no, they're not going to change. It's going to stay the same way, and it's going to be like, well, you know, we're going to adjust for our lifestyle now, and we're not going to change anything about it. And maybe we won't do an increase this year, but we'll do one next year. Yeah, but you think that the tariff just goes away?
It's not going away. No, it's not going to go away. People have adjusted for it already. It is what it is.
Yeah. Even if it's legally gone, people are not going to adjust their prices. Yeah, but you're suggesting that the tariff is going to be gone, and I'm going to tell you that the tariff is not going away. It's going to be, it's still going to be in there.
There's no way it disappears. I know it is. It ain't going away. It's not going anywhere.
Right, right. So the price is staying the way that it is. Right, but there isn't, the tariff isn't being reduced, is what I'm saying. It's still going to be there.
What do you mean? It's not going to go away. There's no way that it goes away. Wasn't it just struck down by the Supreme Court that it's going away?
Yeah, well, they said that it's illegal. They didn't say that it was going away. They said that, hey, what he did was wrong, but they didn't say, all right, now we're going to unwind all this. Good luck with that.
I hope they do. I hope they unwind it. Right. Well, we'll see.
This just in. New tariffs. All right. That's all you get.
Love you, bud. Later. Nick from Cigar Den in New Jersey. New Jersey.
Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're not going away. I mean, they're going to call it something different, or they're going to roll it into something, or they'll find some way to hide it, because nobody ever gives the money back.
Find some way to hide it. They're not going to hide it. They're not going to hide it. It's not going to change.
Oh, you think they're just going to call it tariffs? It's still going to be called a tariff. They're just not going to unwind it. They're going to call...
You know, I believe... You were bad. You shouldn't have done it. Now, let's all move on.
Are you going to take it away? It's already there now. No, they'll figure out the way to get to, for the proper channels, for it to be, to get the blessing, or whatever, and, yeah, something like that, and it'll be fine. Dasanti, Dasanti.
This is just, the tariff is okay now. I just look at this and just, look, it's just, it's just more jargon. More political jargon. Yeah.
Oh, they're doing the smoke and mirrors, so that way they get away from the Epstein files. Oh, yeah. Three cups. Maybe.
Speaking of Epstein Files. In celebration of Friendship Month, a statue of President Trump and Jeffrey Epstein holding hands and skipping has appeared on the National Mall. What? Stop it.
Yep. There's no way. That's gotta be fake. Why?
There's no way that that's real. I don't think it's a real statue, but I mean, it could be. I don't know if I sent this. No way.
In honor of Friendship Month, we honor, this is what the plaque said, in honor of Friendship Month, we honor the long-lasting friendship between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. Wow. You're looking at it, I'll see you a trail? The Trump-Epstein statue is back on the National Mall.
Aha! There's no way. It's not a real... That's October 3rd, 2025.
They just put it back out again today in February. I don't think this is a... Is it a balloon animal or... It's a bronze painted statue.
Yeah, it's bronze painted, but I don't think it's actually bronze. It's probably styrofoam or something. But this is an old article. This is from October 3rd, 2025.
That's okay. We don't fact check. Ben Rowland returns to national. This is on CNN.
Really? It's on CNN. It happened. Aha.
Wow. Good job, Ben. Send me more. Don't send me those weird ones anymore.
Those are freaky. That's so weird. " And it's some guy covered in marshmallows or something. So there's a Trump statue with Jeremy Aniston.
That's epic. Oh my God. Of them skipping and holding hands. Yes.
Yes. So how does it come into play? Who put it up? Does anybody know?
Nobody knows who put it up. You would think there's video cameras all over the National Mall. Right. I think somebody had to see somebody pull up in a van and drop it off.
Maybe Pelosi pulled up. It started with they found a letter in the files where Trump sent Epstein a happy birthday message or something. Right. but he denies it.
He didn't send it. Right. Maybe it's 50 Cent. Oh, they're bestest friends.
There's another person. Somebody else did it. E. Trump.
My PR people did it. Right. Yeah, I don't even know. You know how many people I send messages do every year?
Maybe it's 50. He's doing that documentary. That's wild. So what happens with statues?
Does anybody take it down or what? What a country we live in. Yeah. People are snapping pictures with it, posing with it, taking pictures.
It was great. The statue just comes up and people start taking pictures. It just bop up. Right.
It's gotta be plastic or styrofoam or something. Is it a Banksy? Remember Banksy? No.
Oh. You know what Banksy is? I don't remember that. He did like these crazy art things, and people would always try and take them, steal them.
Oh. Was he like the sidewalk drawer guy or? Oh dude, you gotta look up some of Banksy's artwork. Okay.
It was cool. Like there was one, there was one that made it into like an auction. And as it was being auctioned, after it was sold, the picture frame had a shredder inside And then it shredded the entire pan. Oh, wow.
It was awesome. He did like McDonald's once, making fun of Ronald McDonald. Oh, so he's like a party guy. He's a party guy?
No, like party, par-o-d. Parody? Yeah, is that how you say it? Parody?
No, he's a par-o-d guy. Yeah, like he makes fun of it. No, I mean, he talks about like, you know, corporate injustice and stuff like that. I didn't pull the story, but I saw an artist sold a statue for $18,000 that was invisible.
That's incredible. What are we doing wrong? That's what I'm thinking when I saw it. I'm like, what are we doing wrong?
You know, he's up there going like this, like he's moving it around and stuff, and getting it just right, and somebody paid him $18,000. 18 G's, and he handed it to him? Yeah. That's awesome.
Will he put it in your car for you, sir? How incredible. By the way, Epicurean Smoke is definitely a YouTube video vlogger. Yes.
He has a top 25. Okay. And, uh, I didn't get into any of these details, but I'd like to, if that's okay. Do you care if I do that now?
Oh, go ahead. Is this the comments or what do you? Yeah, the comments, because man, listen, you guys should follow @epicurensmoke because some of the intel that he provided just kind of blew my mind. So, let me get to it.
riveting i'm looking for it you're always yelling at me let me see here fill the air fill the air okay i'm on people how's everybody today out there in cigar world never mind stop talking dark corner i'll just look at it you two looks like he's in a basement i saw it last night and i was like dude that is he broke down some really good intel As far as like the half-wheel? As far as the half-wheel what? As far as half-wheel and... They're really a whole-wheel?
And I'll show, I'll get that wheel. I thought we were referring to half-wheel as the half-wheel now. Epicurean Smoke wrote: "You guys are doing great. For Palmer's frame of reference, a smaller channel, hundreds of subscribers, fewer, generally does proportionally fewer watch hours annually.
Epicurean Smoke's currently does around 6,500 watch hours annually. " To Mike's question about 91 Plus' Half Wheel Ratings, Charlie had 6 91 Plus Ratings, Patrick had 10 91 Plus Ratings, and Brooks had 11 91 Plus Ratings in 2025. 38 of 199 reviews were 90 Plus, 27 of them 91 Plus. So, 26 91s between the three reviewers.
Only one cigar received the 92, the Matilde Special Edition from Patrick, one cigar received the 93, but it was the Warfighter, Mike Schifz, Redux, which we actually reviewed. Yeah, we did that one. So, shout out to Epicurean Smokes, man. Thanks so much for the data and thanks for comparing your numbers because, you know, for being open and honest about that.
That's fantastic. Team Money says, there is no statute of limitations for child and human sex trafficking. Warriors Pride Six says, Cocaine Royale, Cocaine Royal, Cocaine Royal, in reference to our last show. Yes.
Cocaine in the prison purse. Guns, Gear, and Smoke said you had me at cocaine, because that was in your title of the show. See? Tell that guy I don't know what I'm doing.
That's what I see here. " Yeah, well, you know, I mean, the person's not wrong, you always try and look to get better, right? Sure. So.
Okay, so yeah. I went down, I started watching Epicure and Smoke's, some of his shows and stuff, and we've subscribed. We subscribed. Oh, good.
We're subscribers. We're subscribers now. Oh. They have somebody that looks like they're in the basement?
No. His shot looks like we keep him, like, locked up in a hole in the ground. That would be appropriate. It would be.
Appropriate? Yeah. Looks like Pulp Fiction. Go get the Imp.
Go get the Imp. Go get the Imp. Wow. Yeah.
Go get the Imp. Alright, did you guys see Obama on a podcast a couple weeks ago? No. You don't watch Obama, probably?
The only podcast I watch is the one that I live with you. No, but I saw him at the all-star game. He said that there's aliens out there. Yeah.
And then he backed it up and goes, well, statistically saying there would have to be. Right. Not like he knew because he was a president. Right.
So now Trump has told them they must release all information about UFOs. Right. Okay. But didn't they kind of leak this before with...
Well, somebody leaked before said there was UFOs. Yeah. But because Obama, Trump says Obama released proprietary information, so the only way for him not to be in trouble is if Trump makes all the information available to everybody. Gotcha.
Listen, we don't care about the aliens. We want that list open. We want to know who's on the Epstein list. We want people held reliable.
That's what we want. We could care less. What if there's aliens on the list? If there's aliens on the list, then yes.
They released a list I told you yesterday. They did, but it's still, they're still, we're not there yet. What if it's like a Men in Black thing? We're seeing the arrest of that one guy in the United Kingdom got arrested.
For documents. Prince Andrew. For documents. The one guy.
For leaking intel about the royal family. I gave secret documents? Yeah. What are you talking about?
Okay. Yeah. Not about the children? Sweaty McSweaterson.
Don't talk about that, Prince. Oh, yes, sir, go right away now. Let me hide all these children toys in this room. Yeah.
That's all we care about. That's all we, we're never, we're never, we're no one's, no one's going to pivot. We're not pivoting. We're not pivoting off.
Yeah, now there's aliens. We don't want, well look at the aliens over here. Don't pay attention to the Epsteins over here. We don't care about the tariffs.
We don't care about the aliens. We want heads to roll on the Epstein list. Something, something's going to come out that's going to sway your decision. There'll be something.
He thinks, like what? I don't know what there could be. Who knows? Elvis is still alive.
The glove did fit. The only way, the only, the only, the only way that you could table, table that is like war, like something big happens. Oh, you're gonna, now you just gave them the idea. Oh, you think that they're not thinking about that?
You know, a good war would get us off the other scene. You know, we attacked Russia, like, if you don't think that, that people in the government are thinking about that, that's what I think, that's what I believe. They're like, how do we... Did you ever see the movie Wag the Dog?
Yeah, a hundred years ago, I was a kid. That's a good movie, but that's what it's, that's what they did. They made up a fake war to get everybody off of, I think the president had an affair or something. Right.
I'm sure that stuff, I'm sure that stuff happens every day. Sure, sure it does. Yeah, this is just the, this is the PR people right now just testing the waters. Yeah.
Throwing all these little stories out. Like, oh, we're gonna look into the aliens. Like, we don't care. We don't care about the aliens.
I don't care, there's an island that we've all heard of, and we want things answered. Was there aliens on the island? There was aliens on the island. That's where they keep them.
They don't want to tie that in. They don't want to link the stories. Link the stories? No.
Was it Doogie Howser? Was he really an alien? No, not Doogie. NPR?
He was gay though, but he was not an alien. We don't know. Was NPR really gay? We don't know.
What? What the hell is he talking about? Oh, NPH. Neil Patrick Harris.
Oh, Neil. Yes, he is really gay. He's married to a man. He has children.
I saw him at Universal with his husband. Maybe that was just a cover-up because he's an alien and he was on Epstein's Island. No idea where that came from. I'm now a little bit dumber for listening to you.
No problem. I award you no points. Yes. And may God have mercy on your soul.
Yes. All right, a judge. Okay, I found out what the case was about Mark Zuckerberg, why he was in court. Okay.
They're saying that social media is bad for children. I believe that. He's defending it. You told us that.
Yes, yes. But yesterday, he was scolded because his team came in, his team all came in wearing meta glasses. Oh, really? The judge had a fit and started yelling at them and told them they all had to take them off, and if they did take them off, they would all get contempt of court.
Because they were recording? Because they can record things. You're not allowed to record the thing. Right.
But they're meta. Doesn't matter. They're part of the company. Right, but they're like walking in with a camcorder as far as she was concerned.
These are issued? This is not okay. This is not okay. California judge admonished members of Mark Zuckerberg's team for wearing Ray-Ban meta AI glasses, which are equipped with cameras as they entered the Los Angeles courtroom on Wednesday for a landmark trial over the impact of social media on children.
You know, if he was smart, it would have only been one person. Why did he do multiple? First of all, you just said if he was smart. He's one of the richest people in the world.
I think that he's rather intelligent. Because he made a website where you can talk crap to each other? Hey, whatever. Hey, whatever.
Did you do it? No, I mean, well, somebody did it before him, but he stole the idea. He didn't steal the idea. He made it better.
And there hasn't been a new one that's... Have you seen the Facebook movie? Yeah, and he... it was settled, and he won.
That's good. Right? Okay. Perfect.
I think these people just wear the glasses all the time, and they just walked in wearing them. No way. No. Sorry, I'm not buying that for a second.
They're saying, hey, I'm going to bring my sunglasses on, and I'm going to be able to record. Well, they have just regular glasses. Well, they have regular glasses ones. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. I mean, they weren't sunglasses. Okay, yeah, but you can see that they're metas.
Yeah, you can see a camera in the corner. And then you can argue the fact, well, I can't see without these. Right, I have to see. There's a prescription.
Yeah. Right. I don't understand why it's got to be behind closed doors anyways. As well as this medical marijuana here.
Almost everything is, is it, anymore? I mean, you can go in and watch, but they don't let you record at trial. That's why those people do those terrible drawings. The scribbles?
Yeah. They don't look like anybody. Right. Yeah, the only people that can record in a court is the court recorder.
Recorders? Yeah. I remember the Tom Brady drawing when he was a... Oh, yeah.
It was just hilarious. I wonder who has that. Somebody probably picked up the... They paid a lot of money.
Yeah. That'd be dope. I'd like to have the original of that. That'd be cool.
Yeah. You know, you guys, the guy that came in yesterday, are we allowed to, can we say his name? Bosco? Bosco.
Bosco. He was talking about, it's funny you're talking about how much he went in the auction. He was talking about the Michael Jordan shoes. Yeah.
Cause I guess he's a big sneaker head. Yeah. 2 million, the original Air Jordans, With signatures on them. And then they were falling apart and everything.
He said the guy flipped them in like eight months for $8 million. That's incredible. Yeah. Well, kind of getting back to the whole social media thing being a problem for kids.
Yes. Just to clarify there, Meta and Alphabet own YouTube deliberately designing the social media platform to encourage compulsive usage by young people. Oh, not kids, young people. I could see that.
I mean, it's designed to keep you on. It's not like it's designed to keep adults on, it's designed to keep everybody on. Right, right. So there's that, the other thing though, I will say that, you know, my niece just recently got involved in some cyber bullying, somebody sent her us, somebody did a post, a cyber bully attack on her.
Yeah, today, there's a lot of that. Wild, that's, you know, like, especially like the, I think somebody just got, sorry, I think somebody just got put in a courtroom for cyber bullying. And then he was also going after children, like, inappropriately, on Fortnite. On Fortnite?
Yeah, there was like a big thing about that that just happened. Interesting. It's wild, dude. This stuff is kind of crazy.
But like, I mean, you know, people think that you can just throw whatever you want out there. And like, I listened to this video, and it was like... Oh, it wasn't just words. It was a video they made.
Well, yeah, but there wasn't, the kid wasn't in the video, right? It was, then they had like somebody else speaking the words that she wrote, and I was like, "Oh my God, dude, if this was my kid, he would be in a world of hurt. It would not be good for, I'm like, this is what you're gonna put up on social media? Like, that's done.
Like, you're not, there's no phone for you, there's no internet. " How did you do this, but you didn't even finish your homework? Right, right, yeah, that's, that world is crazy, to be honest. Insane, so, all right, well, there's a plaintiff behind the lawsuit, only goes by initials KGM, she alleges that using social media from a young age caused her to become addicted and harmed her mental health.
okay i mean you know could you argue that fact yes sure you could argue the fact that social media could have a negative effect on kids right um i mean you could also argue the fact that maybe it should be monitored by parents right yeah that's what i was thinking and and you know what like that's difficult too because you know a kid could easily just kind of drift away into They'll go into their room and whatever. Right, unless you go in and check. Yeah, you know, but like, look, you're never gonna catch 100% of what's going on in your kid's life, so. Sure.
I guess you'd also have to see what is in YouTube, I'm sorry, is this Meta we're talking about again? Who are we talking about at this point? Meta and YouTube are the two being sued. You probably have to look at their privacy and policy and like all that stuff that's in there.
But I, you know, I don't know, it's, oh look, it's a slippery slope, we're in this weird time, and the fact of the matter is that, like, you know, I don't encourage my kids to go on social media, and, you know, they do, I would be a liar if I said that they didn't, because they're on YouTube, they're on, they watch YouTube shorts, but mainly they watch them in a place where I can witness it, and don't get me wrong, sometimes I'll hear something like, whoa, dude, that's it, you're done, like, that is not okay. It's okay, whatever I, if I hear something that I think is inappropriate for them and like, I don't know, I'm a pretty, it's a pretty open house. Like, you know, we don't hold back a lot of things from our kids, right? So to hear something that I'm like, nope, that's not okay.
Right. But we also keep our kids active in sports. We also keep our kids active, you know, you keep them busy. Yeah.
We also spend your league and everything's going in. - What's that? - Your league. - Your league, everything, it's so good.
- Yeah, it's a multi-sport verse. - We spend dinner together whenever we can, you know, I like to go out to dinner with them. Like, there's a ton of family interaction all the time. And sometimes that doesn't happen with parents.
Sometimes parents don't have that ability, you know? - Right, yeah. - But you gotta decide what's more important. What's the most important thing to you?
Is it family or is it money or is it success? Like, what is it? - It's this show right here, Michael, this show. - Yeah, this is it.
It's not this show. It is for us. We're all in. I'm all in too.
No, it's not the most important thing to you. No, my family is the most important thing to me. Without question. We will not take that from you.
Exactly. Yeah, you know, when we're saying other people, some of them don't have that choice. I mean, they have a choice, but they do need money to be able to pay for a roof overhead and all that kind of stuff. At the end of the day, right, like, I mean, the road that you choose, you know, if you choose to have a child, just raise them right, man.
Like, all these parents out there that think that, you know, YouTube or an iPad can babysit their child while they do what they enjoy is messed up, you know. Right. And that's why these problems are happening. Right.
Okay. Anything else from that? No. All right.
Well, we took a kind of dark turn there, but go ahead, continue forward. I thought it would. All right, Norwegian, we have some Olympic news, Norwegian biathlete, Storla Holm Lagrid, he won a bronze in the 20-kilometer individual event, stunningly announced in his post-event interview on February 10th that he had cheated on his girlfriend three months ago. Oh, this is an old article, yeah.
Is it an old article? February 10th. Okay. Oh, you already heard about this?
Yeah. And he feels really bad, and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, through tears he said, the love of my life six months ago made the biggest mistake of my life. And he said his sport had taken a backseat in recent days for his part.
His girlfriend called his revelation hard to forgive. So he got caught. He probably figured, this is what I'll do. I'll tell everybody in the world.
I'll announce it nationally. I will shame myself. I will shame myself to the world just to get your love back. Do you think he takes her back?
Or she takes him back? Yeah. I don't think so. No, he's a fucking bronze medalist.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Third place. Right. As she walks away with the gold guy. Yeah.
From a different country. Couldn't even. He has condoms left. Oh.
He didn't use his. He didn't use his. Yeah. Did you see that women's hockey US?
No, they beat Canada. Yeah. They came back from a 1-0 deficit in the third. Nice.
They pulled the goalie out. They charged. Boom. Overtime.
Bam. That's a story I heard, at least. That's incredible. Yeah.
Are you watching any of the Olympics, though? No. I think they've won, like... No.
I don't watch. It's like you asked him if he eats shit or something. No. Oh, you know what?
Oh, gross. No, why'd I do that? " Yeah, because I did want to see that. But other than that, no.
Same with the dad at the end. How many gold did we get? We're in second place as far as gold medals. You know, here's the other thing, too, that really kind of bothers me about the Olympics.
It's already recorded. So, like, you already know what happened before it goes on TV. Oh, because of the delay? Yeah.
Oh. So, you know. They didn't, like, one year or one time, you had to get up at, like, 4 in the morning to watch it if you wanted to see it live or something. Are they doing that?
I have no idea, I don't think so. I'm sure, I'm sure, yeah, well they, on Peacock, you can watch the Olympics at all times. Live? Yeah.
S. all the time. Just to make it more convenient for all of us. S.
people. Yeah, I think wherever, fuck the rest of the world. Yeah, whoever gets the most gold, it should be in there. Oh, is that the way you get it, whoever wins?
Yeah. Oh. Yeah, so, you know, if it's, if we don't win all the gold, then it should be in the most winnings. Or wherever it's going next.
Yeah. Hey, I do agree. That's, you know. Right?
That's a home-field advantage. Home-field advantage. That's the perk of winning. Yeah.
That is a great idea. Great way to incentivize. Right. You know what I'm saying?
But don't they already have picked, like, the next ones? Yeah. They've picked, like, the next ten or something. Yeah, because it takes, like, forever to set that thing up.
Well, they build this whole thing. Right. And then it becomes a ghost town. Yeah, that's a waste of money.
Then it's just gone. Yeah, I've seen Suits. You've seen Suits? Yeah, I remember on Suits.
Do you remember on suits? They were going to have the Olympics come? No. They were going to show suits?
I don't see. Is that the one where they wear suits? Yeah, the lawyers. The lawyer.
The fake lawyer. He was a fake lawyer? Yeah, he can just remember everything he reads. So he wasn't a real lawyer?
He wasn't a real lawyer. Yeah, Michael. You know what I have been watching? The dragon thing.
Shout out. No, that's over. Shout out to Stephen Wells for this one. Shrinking?
Nope, I haven't seen it. Shrinking. What is shrinking? Sounds weird.
It is hilarious. It is a show, this is going to sound a little dark, it's a show about a guy whose wife died, and he's a therapist, and like he's, it's a year later, and he's navigating through it, he's raising his daughter, and the dialogue on this show is hilarious, it's an absolutely incredible, it's like a little 30 minute clips, 30 minute shows, and... How many seasons? There's three, I think there's the third one's going on right now.
What's it on? Apple. I'll check it out. Another one I don't have.
Dude, this is a great show. I'll have to check it out. I don't know if this thing has won anything. I don't see how it doesn't.
I mean, it's, it's really good. It's really good. I'll check it out. I watched The Wrecking Crew last night.
Yeah. Oh, that's a pretty good movie. Yeah, it was good. I like that.
It's the new one with the mimosa in it. Mimosa? Mimosa. Mimosa.
They have mimosas in it, too. Mimosa and party. They drink them at the funeral. Mimosa and Party.
Yeah. They drink mimosas at the funeral. Yeah. Okay.
Well, he probably do. Oh, my goodness. Do you have cigar news, Michael? No, not cigars.
Do you have a video, Michael? You know, I do not have a video. Oh, thank you. I could get you a video if you want.
Oh, that's great. About Punch the Monkey. Have you seen Punch the Monkey? You know, I almost pulled the Punch the Monkey story.
Oh, you should have pulled Punch the Monkey. I figured you wouldn't like the Punch the Monkey story. This poor monkey. He was raised by adults, by people.
By adults. They gave them by adults. By, yeah. Well, not the kids, they're busy on social media.
Right. And he's got this little stuffy and they try and reintroduce him to society and the monkey society and the monkeys attack him and he runs back to the stuffy. Oh, he's gonna turn into the Planet of the Apes guy. That's how Planet of the Apes started.
Yeah. And he finally, like, he's got, now he's got an adopted mom, because his first mom bailed on him, loser, what a loser mom. A real monkey mom? Yeah, a real monkey mom, that, you know, eats the bugs and stuff off of him.
That'd be monkey mom. Yeah. Hmm. Nice.
I'll take, I'll take you in monkey. I'll take you monkey. Hmm. Yeah.
Well, that was a, those are great clips. The little monkey's running, grabs a stuffy in panic, give me that, and goes to hide behind a rock. I mean, like the whole world's talking about this thing. Yeah, well, we know how this ends, so.
How's it end? He yells no. Yeah, and then there's five movies. Right, there's five movies.
And he kills us all. Global domination. Right. We all get some kind of virus where we can't talk.
Is that what happened in Planet of the Apes? And Boot shoots himself in the head. Oh, that's not how it goes. In Planet of the Apes, they already became mutes?
Yeah. Really? We start reverting into apes. Really?
Start grunting and stuff? Well, they usually die first. We die before the grunting? But you stop realizing what it's like to be a human.
Oh. That was the new movies, not the old movies. Yeah, that sounds like... Yeah, they didn't have all that creative thinking back in the day for the old ones.
" What about this happening? The humans can't talk anymore. Well, you get the monkey virus. Right.
Yeah. Monkey pox. Monkey pox. monkey brain Indiana Jones no got it yeah alright punch the monkey alright German engineered cigars releasing a RVGN extreme it's not extreme X I guess so at PCA 2026 they're releasing an abbreviation cigar yes German engineered cigars is releasing a new regular production line to celebrate the company's 10th anniversary it's called the RVGN extreme And it features a Mexican-grown Cuban seed wrapper, a Dominican Orlo binder, and filler tobaccos that include: Dominican Piloto, Cubano, Nicaraguan, Corolla 98.
The line will debut in a single six and a quarter by 52 Vitola with the cigars made at Inter Cigar SA in the Dominican Republic. Oh. Have we smoked any of these? No, but we talk about them all the time.
All the time. All the time. All the time. I was thinking the same thing.
We need to get these and try them. All the time. So, what's the name of the cigar? IV...
RVGN. Revenge. Yeah, exactly. Thank God it wasn't called like the KBG or something.
Rausch & Wobenschning. It's a sunny morning on Nürnberg in an open race car. RVGN Extreme is the same track in the tight race and in the rain. Faster, more demanding, and intensely rewarding, the company wrote in a press release.
It's the best. How much are these cigars? They're German engineered. There's a premium.
Yeah, but not a lot because their stuff isn't as good as ours. Go ahead, Phil. What do you got? $12.
No. These are German? We have ways of taking the price and raising it. I'm going to say $16.
$18. See? Boom. $18.
25 count boxes, 20 count bundles. Germans really like their stuff, man, you know, you got like the Mercedes, you got the BMW, you got the BMW, these things, they're not cheap. What else do they have? Just those two things.
And some schnitzel? Some schnitzel? Maybe some, what do they drink, what do Germans drink? Steins?
Hyphenwiesen? Hyphenwiesen, yeah. Top German brands of all time. Dodge.
BMW. Please God be Little Debbie. You have heard of us? We're going to find out something new today, yeah.
The BMW. Mercedes is number one. Volkswagen is number two. The Little Debbie, we make those two, they're very good.
The BMW is number three. I forgot about this one. Adidas. That's why I always tell my kids checks, not stripes.
I forgot about the Dada. All day we dream about sports. We support Buck Knight of Oregon. Yeah, and all those tiny little fingers.
Porsche is German. Oh, the Porsche. The Porsche. Audi is German.
Audi, those are good cars, we make those. Siemens is German. Really? Yes, but we made it as something else.
Wow. Bosch is German. Really? We have the best music, yes.
No, that's not, no. Bosch, don't they make speakers? Bose? That's Bose.
Bosch did too. Bosch is dishwashers? No, he's right. There is a company called Bosch that makes speakers, but it's not the same one.
It's a different one. Found in 1886, dominates automotive parts, power tools, household appliances, and more. Yeah. No speakers.
Yes. There's a Bosch speakers? There is a Bosch speakers. Yes.
SAP, world's leading enterprise software company? Yes, we could not spell the word. And Nevea. Really?
Nevea, the lotion? No, that's the biggest, the highest selling thing on the... Skincare? Nope, that's not the right one.
It's a totally different thing. I thought you were talking about the software company. We need the lotion, we make it from the small children. Nevea, Nevea.
Hugo Boss? - Oh, very nice suits we have. - La Tanza. - When we drive around in our cars and airplanes and things.
- Mont Blanc. - Oh, we have nice pens. - Is that a good pen? - I like that you're just handling it.
Here's one that you're gonna screw up. No, you're not. Haribo. - Haribo?
Is that from New Mexico? - Is that the Gummy Bears? - That's the Gummy Bears. - Oh, yeah, baby!
- We love the Gummy Bears. - Yeah, yeah. - We invented the Gummy Bears. - Gummy Bears.
- They're great. A little chewy, but they're good. - A little chewy. I used to love, did you ever see the back in the day when they at least released the sugar-free ones in the reviews of how people were just exploding all over the place?
It was not the best idea we had. Yeah. Yeah, because you're not supposed to eat a lot of sugar-free candy. We went over this one time, remember?
Oh, it'd make you go poop. Right. And then you need the Nivea on your bottom because it's got all raw from the poo-poos. There you go.
Raw from the poo-poos. You know, the Germans, they think of everything. Yes, we do. Except that one war thing.
We made problems. Except that one big, terrible thing that we did. Oh, no. People like those people so much.
Oh, God. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Sometimes it happens.
No, it doesn't happen. Sometimes it does not happen. It's not supposed to happen. No.
No, it does not happen. Bad. We were very bad. We were very bad.
Terrible. You know us. Yeah, you killed my whole grandparents' family. So, thanks.
Yeah. Very sorry. Thanks for that. I'm sorry.
You know, it's a lovely place in Argentina where I live. Do you think if that whole situation never went down, do you think you'd be here in America? You could be in a little Poland podcast studio. That'd be amazing.
Speaking a whole different language. You have a little Peaky Blinders hat on. That'd be amazing. Well, I would still be here, I think.
You think so? I don't know, or your dad didn't have to flee the homeland. I might be different, because my mother was still here, my father came over, right? Well, then your father, well, but if your father didn't leave, you might not even be a person.
But he really came from-- He might not have-- But the egg was here. But you really came from your dad. That's what I'm saying, he might not have met your mother. Right, yeah.
I mean, if he didn't leave Poland-- Maybe there was somebody else. Maybe. Or maybe I would have never been born. That's what I'm saying.
Would have made my mother happy. Wow. Wow. Dear God.
Go back in time just to lose the one. I don't think you need to lose the one. If I could do it all again, I would have skipped out on you. I would have skipped the second one.
Oh, my God. Give it to the Germans. Just factual, man. I don't have to tell you.
I was there when she said it. Oh, were you? You were? I was there that night.
Nice. Yeah, she got a little liquored up. Nice. There you go.
There you go. Proof right there. I was there. I was there.
Looked at my wife and went, maybe we should go. Well, maybe we should get out of here. I can't see this getting any better. What?
No, what are you talking about? It was fine for me. It was just clarified, you know. Right, cleared up a lot of things.
Like, yeah, well, makes sense. At least you didn't do that. I knew it! Yeah.
All right. Yeah, you know, I wish I never had you. Yeah, I get it. You know what?
If I were a betting man, I would have assumed that a long time ago. Wow. Anyways. All right, time for the industry's favorite game.
What's the score? The German version. The German version. Today's Cigar, June 21st, 2020, Patrick LaGrid, Cigars, Honduras, JRE Tobacco, Aladino, Cameroon, Lonsdale.
We should guess if Patrick LaGrid or Brian, we should guess their nationality and then call them on the show. Why? Guess their nationality? Yeah, just, I mean, LaGrid.
I mean, when he says it German-like, it sounds German-like. - It is German. It was mentioned during the German thing. - Le Gris?
- Yeah. - Oh. - It sounds like a German name. - Does it?
- I mean, you can Google it and find out. - Well, I'm just saying, we guessed the cigars. We should guess where they come from. - Okay.
- Wasn't this cigar on somebody's list for the top 25? The Aladino Cameroon? - In 2023? - I don't know.
Are you helping my friend over here? - Why would that help him? - No, no. He's talking about the thing that we did the other day.
The Cameroon was on someone's list. - It was. The Cameroon did hit somebody's top 25. Yeah.
I think it was the one we didn't like. So, I'll go first on this one. Okay. 91.
You think this is one of the 10? This is from 2023. Oh. It is from 2023.
Oh, now you're British. Maybe. I'm a spy. Chinese-British.
Oh, you know, look over here. Oh. Cigar Reviewed, Aladino Camaruno. Camaruno.
It's Spanish, put it over there. '87. Cigar Reviews, Yelodino, Cameroon, Lonsdale, Country of Origin, Honduras, Factory, Fabrica de Puros, Aladino, at Las Lomas, Jamestran. Jamestran.
You say it the way you want to say it. The J is an H. No, it's a J, it's right there. So, is it Jesus?
Sounds like an H. Jesus? Jesus? Jesus.
Jesus. So, is it a Z? Jesus? Jesus.
Jesus. It's an H. Jesus. Jesus.
Rappers, Honduran, Cameroon, Binder, Honduras, Corojo, Filler, Honduras, Corojo, Length 6x43, and they smoked 3. Oh. It's a good size of a cigar. Mm-hmm.
91. 87. Number one. One, once lit, the Aladino Cameroon Lawnsdale delivers a much more vibrant profile than the pre-light suggest, with sharp pepper, red apple sweetness, red chili spice, and clear Honduran terroar.
I don't know what that is. It's clear though. It's clear. That really wakes up the palate.
Really wakes it up. Really wakes it up. Get you going. Moving along.
Wake me up. Boy, you go, go. How do you spell terroar? T.
T-E-R-R-O-I-R. Hmm. Why? Does that change anything for you?
Well, no, 'cause if it's a T-E-R-R-O-R, that's a spice. Terrer. T-E-R-R-O-R? Yeah.
You mean Terror? Yeah, that's Terror. Well, yeah, that would also be Terror. O-I-R.
But there's a spice. It's a Honduran, clear Honduran Terrer. Yeah, that's supposed to be something different. Terrier.
Terrier. 91, like the dog. It tastes like a Terrier. It tastes like a Terrier.
A Honduran Terrier. 87. A clear hundred. You can't even see it.
It's invisible like a statue. $18,000. Yeah. Super, super.
91. I'd say 87. Oh. Construction and combustion are very good overall.
Despite the quick burn rate, it burns evenly produced solid ash, maintains good draw, and can be smoked down to the small nub without falling apart. It's so weird that it burns fast. Like it's underfilled. Allegedly.
Jesus. Like, I can't even... I can't even with you. Well, this is why we don't take sponsors, so...
Cross him off the list. While we're done messed up again. 91. Still a good tasting cigar.
Excellent cigar. 87. - Who reps them now? - I have no idea.
- I don't either. - Alfonso? No. Alfredo?
- Alfredo. - Alfredo. - While it brings spice and vibrancy, it lacks the classic sweet and spicy interplay, typically associated with African-grown Cameroon. - Oh, excuse us.
- Oh, excuse me. - Are we bothering you? - No, but I've been sick. I'm not sleeping well.
- It's just nap time. - Resulting in less complexity and a more singular spice-forward profile than expected. - I got news for you, Palmer. You never sleep well?
No, but I sleep less now. How much less could you sleep? Yeah, how much less could you sleep? Pretty much.
I didn't hear anything you said. Something about spice. I got caught up in your yawn and saying that you don't sleep well. While it brings spice and vibrancy, it lacks the classic sweet and spicy interplay typically associated with African-grown Cameroon, resulting in less complexity and a more singular spice-forward profile than expected.
90. So it's not African Cameroon, but it tastes like African Cameroon, is that what they're saying? Well, look, okay, so if you back this up, this is something, a topic we've kind of been talking about. Three years ago, they would say Cameroon, even though it wasn't grown in Cameroon.
And now you're starting to see a difference in that, where people are saying Nicaraguan, Honduran, stuff like that. 87. Final Thought: To borrow from some of my other reviews, say the word Cameroon and you've got my attention. In this case, it's even more attention than normal since it's not a traditional Cameroon but rather one grown in Honduras, which opens up a new option much like that of a Connecticut Seed Tobacco that had been grown in the US before being grown in Ecuador.
In the case of the Aladino Cameroon Lonsdale, the end result is a cigar that shows its own take on the red pepper and spice This is a cigar that is absolutely worth trying and one I would encourage any fan of Cameroon to smoke a few of and then put it head to head with your favorite Cameroon-wrapped cigars. If nothing less, it gives fans of the varietal a very enjoyable option to diversify their experience this distinct leaf. 88. A decision must be made.
I'm going 90. You went the wrong way. It's 88. There's nothing you could have done.
Mike, he knows the number. I almost stopped it when you said the score. He knows the number. Nailed it.
Okay. I'm pretty good at this game. We have another cigar. I'm pretty good at this game.
I gotta say. January 6th, 2016. A yawn and a cough. Yeah, no kidding.
Charlie and a fart. Good thing you got the diapers on. Yeah. Charlie Minato reviewed the cigar.
It's a Davidoff Dominican Republic limited edition review. Davidoff Especiales number seven, Robusto Rio. What was the year? 2016.
Oh, 10 years ago. What is it, Davidoff? Yeah. Yep.
90. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
87. Who's the reviewer, Brian? Charlie, Charlie. You don't think he likes Davidoff?
Number 7, Robusto, Real, Country of Origin, Dominican Republic, Factory Cigars, Davidoff. 5x48. Ah, they smoked one cigar. One, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one, one.
I'd say it's a Redux either, so I don't know why I only smoked one. One, one, one, one, it's 2016, times are tough. 82. Wow, bold, bold shift.
82? Yeah. Okay. 87.
Clue number one. The cigar delivers an incredibly layered and detailed flavor profile, It's a profile highlighted by vibrant lemon, citrus, rich nuttiness, cashews, peanuts, walnuts, cocoa, and involving spice creating a dynamic contrast between mouth and retrohale that keeps it engaging throughout. He must be drinking gin. Why do you, you always say that, why do you specifically think?
He's gotta be, there's no way that you're getting all that. But gin is the alcohol that makes you taste those things? Well, that has a lot of that stuff in it. Oh, does it?
Yeah. I don't know. So, he doesn't say, like, tiny stuff. You think he sit there, gets a smoking jacket on, and gets a little gin martini?
Are we talking about Charlie? Yes. Oh, I guess he'd be in a martini. Yeah.
I was thinking he's not a gin guy, but I guess he'd be drinking a martini. I think he's got, like, a little... Yeah, a little olive in it. Like, slippers.
Like, fluffy slippers. Yeah, and I like to think that they're, like, a royal blue. Royal blue. Yeah.
Right. And they have the half-wheel logo on them? Yes. Yeah.
Half wheel. Half on one side, wheel on the other? And like as he's getting ready to smoke, he like flips his hair? No?
No? Ties into a ponytail? Oh, yeah. Samurai style.
Samurai style. Sorry. I'm gonna go... The cigar cutter is a samurai sword.
Oh, nice. Oh. Done. Would you like a V?
I'm gonna go 82. Never gonna talk to me again. I love you, Charlie. Don't listen to that.
We're so close. We do love charlots. I'm getting a hug this year, I tell you, I'm getting a hug. Did you get one last year?
No, no, last year he called me a rock star. However, I prefer Brooks to review all my seniors. Are you guys ready for the next one? No, I haven't picked yet.
What'd you pick? 82. 80... He just said a bunch of good things about it.
88. Yeah, but when he said... " No, you wanna know what I... 54.
You know what I think? You know what I think? You know what I think? I think that you don't listen to anything that Palmer says, and I think that you just throw numbers out continually.
I'm listening. Alright, number two: near symmetrical burn, solid ash retention, and a draw that starts excellent and gradually tightens to an ideal resistance. Might be a 98. The flavors linger impressively long without overwhelming the palate.
Now what? I will go up now. He likes the burn. The Burn, 85, 89, good flavor so far, good construction, clue number three, this cigar sucks, the retro hails become overly intense in the middle portion bordering on punishing and in the final stretch introduces some harsh before settling down, harshness, before settling down again, harshness, harshness, it's very harsh, I had to get my sword out and tell it no.
Yeah, that's harsh, 85. 87. Final thought. The first third of the Davidoff Especiales No.
7 Robusto Real was very good. But it wasn't sublime like the next two. While it cost the cigar a point, it added so much more. The Davidoff Speciales were able to show improvement and progression, even though there wasn't much left to improve on.
And that added an additional character simply would not have been there otherwise. This was a masterclass in how to blend a cigar, to not only improve upon each puff, but more importantly, interact with both the mouth and the nose, and in the times, perfect harmony. The Davidoff Speciale No. 7, as evidenced by the score, is the greatest cigar I've ever smoked from a technical standpoint.
The flavors, mouth, retrohale, finish were simply outstanding. And the construction was equally impressive, burning with a near perfect burn line for over 90% of the cigar. As objectively as one can do something, or so subjective as to score a cigar, this is essentially as good as it gets. 93.
The best score he's ever given? Wow. He definitely was wearing the robe and the slippers on this one. The silk robe, the silk robe.
Yeah. Probably with his initials on the pocket. You think Charlie's got the initials, right? Yeah.
With the cursive writing? M. Charlie Minato. I mean, if it goes higher than that, wow.
Can we say his middle name's Walter? Can we just assume that? Can we assume his middle name is Walter? Yeah.
Charlie Walter Minato? I don't see how that flows. I think it flows great. Charlie Walter.
Dude, you're amazing. Sorry. Uh, man, you know, he wants to hit it. That's the thing.
You want to hit the number. You know, what was funny is I thought you're going to stay low and then I was going to actually say, should I just do a conservative here and go a little higher? Yeah, or just try and nail it. And I was going to try and nail it.
This is tough because, you know, I struggle to see Charlie above And yet, that could be the case here today. Yeah, this could be it. If he says it was the greatest cigar he's ever smoked, you went and you found the highest rated Charlie Minato rating one. Well, this is from 2016 though, right?
But I don't know if it's, if it breaks 93, I don't know if it goes 94. i'm gonna say 92 you went the wrong way yes it's a 94 isn't it to 99 what wow i knew it you were looking up the highest rated charlie manano i just came across it a 99 has he ever has anybody Anybody ever rated 100? No. I haven't seen another 99.
Wow. I gotta smoke this cigar. 99? What is it, the Davidoff Especial?
Davidoff Especial number 7 from 2016. Hmm. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah, I still won though the day. Yeah, 'cause you got ahead and you hit on. Yeah. Yeah, nobody was hitting 99 today, Palmer.
I almost went 94. Good job. Great work, Palmer. Great work.
Thank you. Thank you very much. And good for you for going up there. Thank you.
Yeah, I, you know, I was a little scared at first, but I was like, you know what? Charlie's gonna cease to amaze me here in the road today. No risk it, no biscuit. Right.
I thought you couldn't even say 93. Look at you. I got it. Yeah.
Well, if you said a post on, yeah, I was in the nineties. One hundred and ten. Yeah. Okay.
Where are you going to be? I'm going to be at Northport Cigar Lounge in Northport, Florida next Wednesday, the 25th from 1:00 to 5:00. Okay. Are you going to St.
Augustine? No, no. Maryland, Melbourne. Oh, yeah.
But it depends on how the illness goes over the next day. Oh, okay. Well, and this had already aired beforehand. Right, yeah.
This goes off on Monday, so it had already been done. So he had a great time. He felt better. He had a great time, felt better.
We had an amazing time. He's such a great host. He's a wonderful man. And we're going to...
Where are we going? At the end of March, we're going to Humidor Fine Cigars and Bo Weevil Cigars in Alabama. What are the dates for that? I don't know if that meant.
I want to say 26th and 27th, but I'm guessing. Okay. Bo Weevil. That's a look at that.
Are we driving or flying? We're driving. Your new painted car? No.
Your new painted car. Oh. No, actually, you know what? Honestly, dude, I was thinking about just renting a car.
Oh. Right. We'll just rent a car. That way we can destroy it and just dump it off and we're done.
Works for me. I want to hit a couple things in the panhandle too, so. You guys going to rent a convertible? Yes, for a romantic weekend.
Duh. No man, I'm going to go Tahoe. One of those German Mercedes. Tahoe.
The German carts. I'm going to get an SUV with a... We will get... SUV with a sunroof.
I knew I was about to gaslight bomber. We will get the big SUV made by Audi. Yeah, I think that's the move. That's the move.
For that drive? What do you think? We need the biggest car possible with the smallest gas tank. Yeah?
Is that your logic? That too, yes. It sounds like Palmer when he has to go to the bathroom. Right.
That way I get to pee bar. Right. Should we do something special for them? I don't know.
You set all this up. I just came in and made sure that we told them we were coming. Yes, of course you should do something special. Maybe we do like a special hat for them or something.
Oh. You know. Special hat. Yeah.
What do you think? Sure. I don't know. We're rigging hats.
I don't know. We'll figure that out. Big in the hat industry now. We'll see what that...
We're very good haberdashers. Haberdashers? Those people who make hats. Oh.
We're haberdash and extraordinary. Is that what they're called? I had my hat all set to wear. I glued it and everything, and then I left it on the counter.
Or not the counter, it's on the back of the couch, because I'm not allowed to put things on the counter. What did you glue? Because I have to put mine on that last hole. It won't stay shut.
Shut, 'cause he has a big dome, but I have a big dome, so I put a little drop of super glue on there and held it for a few minutes 'til the glue set. He does have an incredibly large head. I thought I had a big head, but I guess, yeah. Yeah.
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Show Notes
On today’s show….
Supreme Court says Trump tariffs no!
Trump and his bestie get a new statue! We are not alone out there in space! Zucks back in the news…and then somebody has been naughty! And in cigar news..well there is very little cigars news so Germans have done it again and a full game of what’s the score!!!1