ACHP Episode 481 Old Man Dementia Fighting
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Welcome to a Cigars for Podcast
episode 481.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and
with me today is Why is it stuck
on you?
Just.
We have new equipment.
We're working this out.
We have no Phil today.
He's on the set of his new movie
Phil and the Seaman and Nautical
Adventure and then as my Co host
Mikey Stefankevich.
Hi, it's me, OK.
On today's show, now even water
isn't safe, we have a Mideast
travel update, old people are in
the news again.
And then one kid in Louisiana
took the term Play misty for me
way too seriously.
Oh, that sounds interesting.
Then in cigar news, we have APCA
cigar announcement. 2 Queens
will be here soon and we are
back on in Oregon.
OK.
And then we wrap up with the
what's the score?
I don't know how we're going to
do that.
You're going to play against
yourself.
I guess.
All right, before we get
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Did Fran Stiletto get his
letter?
It shipped I think yesterday
all.
Right, I didn't know if you knew
where I kept him.
That's why I asked.
Gotcha.
OK.
All right, now I'm with the.
What should we cover my YouTube?
Oh yeah, I do the comments,
sorry.
Let's see here.
What do we got today?
Feels.
So weird without the microphone.
We had AI know I love.
It I missed the microphone?
We had a lot of comments.
There was an old one.
Yeah, Jason at Jason Ritchie
commented on the Skip Martin
Roma craft interview, said great
interview fellows learned a lot.
Thank you.
There was one on when what's his
name died?
The Wrestler.
Oh, that.
Yeah, but those are shorts.
On episode 479, Francis Siletto
said.
I cannot have replace Phil.
Oh, that's an old one.
Was the night yesterday David
Morris 7700 says at 6:42.
I see Palmer didn't red light
today.
The air strikes in Iraq have
killed the militia members.
Brother, come out of 2003 and
join us in 2026.
I don't get that because the new
setting killed the militia
members.
Because you said militia like
militia members.
That's what they called them.
It's the Iraqi militia, OK Or
Iran militia, I don't remember.
I can't remember who were
fighting.
All right, so David Morris and.
550I proved you wrong.
Wow and that's all I got for
today.
I thought I had more, but the
other ones 1 was like you said,
the Hulk Hogan short clip and
the Burger King says somebody,
Paul Kovacic 3686 says it's the
worst fast food outfit on the
planet when it comes to Burger
King.
So today we have no mics.
We're working on our own.
We're working on wireless mics.
We've got some upgraded is,
we've got some upgraded stuff
equipment.
Thank you.
And we have replaced Phil with
the upgraded equipment today.
Yeah, there's nobody switching.
There's no one switching we're
doing.
So it's going to be a little
odd.
It's going to be perfect.
It's going to be the greatest
switching ever.
Ever.
I don't have it as part of the
news, but there is a burger war
going on.
Really.
Yes, between the arch and the.
Between the arch and the King.
So did you see the video where
the president of McDonald's
tasted the arch?
Yeah, you half assed.
Took a bite.
Took a tiny little bite.
Yeah, OK, well, the King went
and did.
The president of the King went
and did a video and he just bit
the shit out of the thing in a
whole big bite.
Now they're saying there's
conspiracy theories because the
owner of McDonald's keeps
calling it product doesn't call
it burger, Right?
Like maybe there's no burger in
it.
Interesting.
And then, not to be outdone, the
owner of Wendy's came in and he
bit half of his in one Pike.
Oh nice.
You know, it's funny what what
trends and what goes viral so.
Right.
Yeah, I like it.
I like they're all fighting.
Hey, yeah.
And if the arch is available,
I'm down with trying that thing.
Well, I told you it's out.
Yeah, it's out.
I had Burger King last night in
the car, but I didn't they
didn't have the new water.
After you had yourself a cry.
No, no, the last stop was a good
stop.
Yeah, OK.
That's why I put them for last.
Well, they were second to last,
but I put them at the end.
Jacksonville is huge.
Right I.
Didn't really tell I was almost
in Georgia.
I think it's like the largest
city in Florida in the.
US oh in the.
US like as far as size or it's
up there, it's like top three.
Every time I looked, it was an
hour to get to the next shop.
Yeah, I'm like, this is
ridiculous.
Jacksonville's gigantic yeah.
All right, down with the news.
More than 66150 thousand plastic
waters, bottles of water are
being recalled.
OK, now you can't even drink
water.
Why not?
How could they ruin water?
I don't know, I'm sitting like
this today.
According to Food Drug
Administration, Wisconsin based
Valley Springs Artesian Gold is
recalling six of its products
after they were bottled in under
in sanitary conditions.
OK, what is that was somebody
didn't wash their?
Hands.
Somebody was dirty, yeah.
It's terrible.
Now you get no water.
So what's the bottled water
company?
Wisconsin based Valley Springs
artesian gold.
I don't think we have that down
here.
I don't think we have that
either, but Romatron probably
has that.
Oh, he might have it.
Yeah.
You think he's?
Romatron, don't, don't drink the
insanitary water.
Anything else about that, how it
happened or?
According to the FDA enforcement
report, the recall of 651,148
bottles of water was initiated
in February 6th.
No, they don't explain how it
happened just in sanitary,
that's a.
Ton of water.
That I know.
That's over a half a million
bottles.
Yeah.
Would you drink the water?
Probably.
If you had the Valley Springs
water, you got the notification.
Would you just drink the water
anyways and the whatever?
Probably.
Yeah.
I mean, other than us, we talked
to us before.
Other than us mention it on the
show, we wouldn't hear about it.
Right.
Well, 'cause I'm, but you know
about it now.
Well, I mean, I, I see now I'm
in the circle of trust with FDA.
Apparently I get all these
notifications when anytime
anything is recalled, right?
And this isn't going to kill
you.
It's not a level 1, right?
Which is weird because now we
know the levels.
Right.
So yes, what's it going to give
me diarrhea?
I have diarrhea most of the time
anyway.
How do I even know?
Like I'm into these fig bars.
OK.
Well, apparently if you eat too
many fig bars, it gives you
diarrhea.
But they're delicious.
They come two in a pack and
they're low calorie, you know,
low sugar, no added sugar or
anything.
They're really good.
But when I went out last week, I
ate six in a day and then I shit
for two.
Days.
Holy moly, dude.
Well that's all he took is a
snack.
I take snacks and I don't stop
and eat during the day.
OK, that's smart.
Yeah, I take snacks and drinks
and then if I'm really hungry,
last night I had a headache at
8:00, so I drove through and got
chicken Nuggets at the Burger
King Life.
Of a road warrior right there,
buddy.
So why don't you bring like beef
jerky or you know.
I don't like beef jerky, it
always get stuck in my teeth.
You're a teeth guy.
Yeah, yeah, I'm a teeth guy.
I don't like that.
Well, like yesterday I took
chicken.
What else did I had I had I had
one pack of the fig bars left
granola or what?
Now what's what's the kind bars?
And there was one other thing.
Oh, and some watermelon.
Some watermelon.
So you didn't have the
watermelon or the?
I had everything.
Oh.
As the day, you know, breasted.
But I eat breakfast at 4:00 in
the morning.
By 11 I'm starving.
Right.
So, OK, so water's a problem.
What is the problem up there?
Don't eat.
It but not big.
Don't eat it.
I don't drink it.
But don't.
But if you had it, you'd drink
it anyways.
I wonder if the bottles are just
dirty, like they forgot to wash
the bottles.
You know, like what's the level?
Like how bad could this be?
Right.
I mean, they didn't wipe the end
of the hose off before they
started squirting into bottles.
Yeah, I don't know, could be.
Didn't clean the tanks.
Yeah, that's just weird that it
left it so vague.
Yeah, I mean, there there's no
like E coli, listeria, like
everybody else gets on their
food.
Right, they would tell you.
Yeah, they have to tell you,
right?
Freedom of Information Act.
All right, now for a Middle
Eastern listeners.
The Hamad International Airport
closed flights temporarily on
Wednesday.
Really.
So if you're over in that part
of the world and you had a
flight planned out of the Hamad
International Airport, I'm very
sorry.
Operations remain temporarily
suspended in line with the
closure of the Qatar airspace by
the Qatar Civil Aviation.
Oh, Qatar is closed, Yes.
Well, the airspace.
Well, that's interesting because
why?
Why would they close their
airspace?
Are they that close?
Yeah.
Well, you never know where
they're going to shoot a missile
now.
You think they shot?
Maybe they're.
Just shooting them everywhere at
this point.
I think they could have shot
down a commercial plane.
Oh, I'm sure they'd love to.
I had.
I think that's happened in the
past.
I have no drink at all.
Accidentally.
Oh, that makes me happy.
You sit there and suck down your
water.
Yes, So what?
I heard yesterday on the radio
for our war update as apparently
we have wiped out their Navy.
We have wiped out their air.
Force the one boat, the one
plane?
No.
No, they had more.
They had, I think they had five
boats and a submarine took that
out too.
I think Pakistan took out the
submarine.
Yeah.
So anyway, there, yeah, there's
there's no Navy, there's no Air
Force anymore over there,
apparently.
Israel, have you have you seen
the video?
Israel has lasers that shoot
missiles out of the sky.
Really.
Have you seen the video?
The video was amazing.
That's their air defense system.
Right.
So they show this, it's dark,
they show this missile coming
over, and then this thing comes
up and it charges and then
shoots his laser beam hits a
rocket, blows up.
Are you sure it's real?
It's not AI.
It was a news thing.
Yeah, I know.
It's.
Hard to tell anymore.
Are you OK with the nose man?
You've been hitting the nose,
man.
Mustache a lot my.
Mustache is twisted and it's
tickling my nose.
All right, Well, I mean, get it
together.
Your wife will call him a minute
a hard time.
I'm very relaxed over here, I
feel nice.
There's no mic in my face.
I miss the microphones.
I don't miss it at all.
I feel it's not getting us when
we talk, it's.
Definitely picking this up.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, but oh, there's a delay
too.
OK, we're OK.
There's a 5 second delay because
it switches after you start
talking, right?
So I was afraid it was missing
the beginning of the talking.
No.
All right, so don't go to the
airport until further notice
come here for all your travel
safety news.
So all your.
Travel.
Safety news authorities and IT
said support information has
been compiled for travelers
currently stranded in Doha.
Airport teams are continuing to
respond to inquiry.
So just come back tomorrow,
we'll give you another.
Yeah, I mean, that's got to suck
if you're there, if you're there
on vacation and you're stuck.
Right.
There's cruise ships apparently
stuck over there.
Really war, because they've
closed the Strait of Hormuz, I
think is what it's called.
And that's the way the boats
have to go to get out.
Oh yeah, I saw that their one of
their naval ships was in
international waters and they
thought that they were safe
because they were in
international waters.
And then we blew it up.
Oh yeah, I saw that too.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, is, you know what, man, as
long as we can keep a minimal
number of boots on the ground,
just, you know, just a presence,
but not, I don't want to see it
all out.
I don't think anybody wants to.
See that?
No, nobody wants to see it all
out more.
Well, we are fighting the narco
terrorists and in some other
country right now too.
Are we?
I think it was.
Ecuador, Ecuador.
I think it was Ecuador.
Really don't quote me on that.
I'm not sure if it's Ecuador,
but I.
We're going to quote you on it
anyways, and we're going to.
Brief article that yeah, we were
fighting narco terrorist with
somebody.
Did you get it from South Dakota
News?
No, but I did.
I did go to South Dakota News
yesterday.
All right.
More old people are in the news.
A lot of old people stuff going.
On more sex.
Nope.
Three former assisted living
employees in Winston Salem, NC,
were arrested after
investigators say they organized
and filmed fights between
elderly residents living with
dementia.
Oh, old people Fight Club.
Wow.
The guy's got dementia and they
go, you know what, you don't
like that guy over there, you
should go punch him.
I don't even think you have to
do that.
No, that's what they're doing.
Oh, really?
Yeah, They have to instigate it
somehow, do they?
Yeah.
And then they film it in bed.
Wow, I would be so mad if that
was my old person.
Yeah, You go to visit your dad
and all of a sudden his, you
know, face is black and blue.
And how did that happen, Dad?
You know, they go.
He fell down you.
Know what's crazy is this is a
serious issue.
Like it's, I mean, we can make
light of this joke or of this
thing, but you know, there's a
lot of other views.
I constantly hear about this
over and over again, of all of
these things, these terrible
things that are happening to our
old people.
To our elderly.
We do a terrible job of this.
We do.
According to the police, the
residents, many in their 70s and
experiencing significant memory
impairment, were allegedly
encouraged to hit one another
while staff recorded the
incident instead of intervening.
Worldstar.
In one case, resident could be
heard calling for help while
being struck.
Authorities began investigating,
receiving a tip in June.
The employees were fired and
later charged with assault on an
individual with disabilities.
That was going to be my question
like what are you, what are the
legal ramifications of that as
if you're a person that is
interacting or like causing
that, right?
Probably my oh, it's my laptop.
Yeah, that's OK.
Like, how much trouble can you
get it?
It's got to be it.
It may be those punishments need
to be more serious.
I don't know what the punishment
is for assault on individuals
with disabilities.
It's not listed.
Whatever it is, I don't think
it's enough.
No, it's not enough.
They got to be something they
maybe they can just get them for
for assault specifically.
Well, I guess maybe it's
probably worse under the for
someone with a disability,
right?
If they add the person some
description of the person, it's
probably worse I would think.
OK, All right.
You know who Misty Roberts is
why we're going.
We're just burning through this
stuff today.
It's all right.
Who's Misty Roberts?
Tell me.
You don't.
You haven't heard of Misty?
Roberts.
No idea.
She is the ex mayor of a town in
Louisiana.
Why would I know that?
It's all over the news.
It's been in the news for four
days.
You're my news guy.
Have you covered, Misty Roberts?
No.
But how would I know?
I heard it yesterday on two
different shows and quite in
detail.
Yeah.
So she's guilty of having sex
with a teen?
A mayor.
Mayor, Female.
Mayor Misty Roberts?
Yeah, an attractive middle age.
I think she's 42.
Middle age blonde woman.
Had a party for her kids at her
house.
What kind of alcohol would you
kids like?
She's a cool mom.
Right.
Oh, she's a cool mom, and she's
the mayor.
She's a cool mom, so kids show
up.
She's having a party, she goes
to hang out with the kid, she's
got a little bikini on.
Her son's friend comes over.
Missy is a little drunk.
OK, She fancies this 16 year old
boy.
OK.
So he starts drinking fast to
catch up.
They're making out in the pool.
There's some pictures.
OK.
He goes, we should go upstairs.
He's at it, yes.
OK, but he's drunk.
OK.
She goes, great idea.
They go upstairs, they have sex.
Couple of kids videotaped
through the window.
There's they're obscured a
little bit because of the
furniture and whatever, and then
this kid confesses to his
girlfriend and tells her and she
dumps him.
OK.
Then she gets back with her
ex-boyfriend.
OK, so this is a timeline.
Yeah, well this is what came out
yesterday.
Went to court.
So then the boyfriend convinces,
gets back with the old
girlfriend, uses this
information to get the old
girlfriend back.
OK.
And then the son finds out.
Misty son?
How did the son not know?
Wasn't he at the party?
Yes, and he was upset with his
mother's behavior, but I don't
think he knew about the sex.
OK, maybe he was drunk too, who
knows.
Probably.
Probably.
So let's assume.
So he gets mad at his mother.
She says it's not my fault, you
should be mad at your friend.
OK?
He's the one who did it right?
So then the kids parents find
out.
OK Missy gets arrested.
Missy goes to jail, so she was.
Let's see.
A jury has found Misty Roberts
guilty of having sex with a
minor.
And let's see what else She had
sex with a 16 year old boy to
party at her home.
She was found guilty in charge
today of carnal knowledge of a
juvenile and indecent behavior
with a juvenile.
OK.
Both are felonies.
Oh no, the first one has a
sentence of up to 10 years.
OK.
The second sentence, the second
charge has a sentence of seven
years, so she could go to jail
for 17 years.
OK.
And obviously she's no longer
the mayor.
She's no longer what?
No longer the mayor?
She lost that.
OK so if the roles were flipped,
if it was a dude doing it to a
16 year old girl, I.
Think it would be a lot worse.
It would be terrible.
Be terrible, right?
Right.
Like they would not not OK.
Yeah, no, I don't know the laws
in Louisiana, but there's no
mention of statutory rape, which
is usually what comes with this.
I'm sure it's the thing if she's
getting charged.
Well, maybe that's the carnal
knowledge of a juvenile, right?
I mean, maybe that's just fancy
word for statutory rape.
That's a fancy word.
Cause carnal knowledge is mean.
She had sex with the juvenile.
I don't know why they don't
just, you know.
Call it that.
Right.
Was he a strapping young man?
He was a lot taller than her.
Yeah, she very chesty woman.
Very.
Chesty woman.
Very chesty woman.
I'm sure this kid was, you know,
she didn't have to ask twice.
Or he what?
Well, apparently he asked her
so.
Right, so how did he use that to
get back with this girl?
No, no, he lost the girlfriend,
right?
But the old boyfriend found out
and told the girlfriend.
He's like, hey, I know we're not
dating anymore.
But what a weak move.
Bobby Bobby's banging Timmy's
mom.
The one time, yeah, apparently.
Do you think he went back for a
second?
Oh.
I left the best part out.
Oh, OK, There is DoorDash
receipt.
Yeah, she ordered one of those
day after pills because
apparently, apparently he, you
know, left it in the garage.
Well, he's 16, right?
You know?
Sure.
You know that's what happens
when you play without a goalie,
right?
You know.
So that came out in court too,
because DoorDash supplied the
received there the.
Driver So why was that in court
to kind of debate and say this
confirms that it happened or
something like?
That I guess, yeah.
Because I mean that.
I mean, why else would she take
it if they didn't have sex?
Was Misty married?
There was no mention of a Mr.
Misty, so I'm guessing no.
There was no mention because Mr.
Misty.
Would be very upset, yeah.
That would not.
Be It's a big pool I.
Mean it's a big pool.
It was a picture of the pool.
It was a nice big house, but she
was the mayor.
Right.
Well, now she's.
How does?
What part?
What do you want to ask?
I don't understand how.
I mean no matter how drunk I am,
I am not taking a 16 year old
girl upstairs in my house.
OK, that's different guy to a
little girl.
I mean, that's way worse.
That's way worse.
No, it's way worse.
A 16 year old boy.
This is a badge of honor.
Well, I'm not saying if I was a
if I was a 16 year old boy, I
would bang the mayor.
Right.
I mean, that's fine, you know,
And I don't know if my, if I
found out my son right, bang the
mayor, I might be all right.
Yeah.
I don't know why your mother's
so upset.
Yeah, it's not the I mean.
I've seen the mayor.
She's.
Hot you're not 12.
Right.
Yeah.
You know, in two years, if she
had waited two years, I've been
OK.
Got to hang tight.
Missy's not waiting.
She's not waiting.
Apparently she's very
promiscuous with 16 year old
boys.
I mean, like, at what point did
you know, like even from the
other like this, this son,
right?
Like, hey, we're all going to
get shit faced at our house.
Like, OK, you think, you think
like you kind of have the idea
of what your mom is, right?
Like, well, like what she's, how
she looks and what she's.
Capable.
Yeah.
Everybody.
Everybody's got to, you know,
go.
Dude, your mom's hot.
Right, if everybody's saying
that like.
Maybe the plan wasn't for her to
be hanging out.
I mean hanging out in her pink
bikini, sitting on the edge of
the pool with all the boys
around her.
But you got to play this out in
your head, like you got to work
some of these things out.
This is the problem that we're
doing, you know, like we're not
teaching our kids.
How to plan?
Like you got to play, you got to
play life 3 moves ahead.
Like you always got to be, you
know what I mean?
In every aspect.
Like, OK, if I do this, what are
the what could happen, right?
Oh, Mom's a bit handsy, right?
Yeah.
It's probably a bad idea, you
know.
She bought that new bikini son
of a mix.
Right, like like you have.
There's no way that this this
kid did not see that.
Come now, look, I'm not no.
I mean, apparently they were
making out in the pool.
So I mean, don't you go up and
tap your buddy and go look, stop
kissing my.
Mom like shut this down.
Right, Mom, you got to go
inside.
This is not OK, right?
Like, you're done.
You're done.
Go upstairs.
Right something.
I mean, I don't know you.
Have to stop it before it
happens.
Right, unless the.
Mom's a little handsy.
Mom's a little handsy.
Unless the 16 year old is
probably like he's the the guy.
Like he's the top one in the
group, right?
And the his son, her son is not
right.
Oh, I got you.
Right.
Like he's like, dude, your mom's
hot.
Your mom's hot.
I'm going to bang your mom, you
know, like.
And then at that point, I'm
like, you're not coming over,
like even, right?
Yeah, No.
Do you see what I'm?
Saying right, you're out.
So like, no, you can't come hang
out.
No, I don't know.
I don't, I'm not doing this
right.
Like I'm not risking it.
I think that they're like, I
think that it's important.
I know that like this is wild
and no, we do not condone this
behavior.
No, but I think that it's
important that you teach kids to
understand actions and
consequences and kind of move,
think about the next two or
three moves as to when you do
something, what's going to be
the result, Right.
Hey, let's all go hang out and
get drunk because my mom's going
to get his booze and hang out
with us.
Like, probably not a good idea.
No, right.
There's been a lot of this in
the news lately.
Yeah, females banging kids at
school.
Yeah, well, well, this isn't at
school.
No, no, but I mean teenagers.
But it's the same scenario like
if the if a 16 year old boy
bangs the teacher like everybody
brags about that.
Right, that's how you get
caught.
Right.
The thing is, don't tell nobody.
How do you well?
Well, you have to.
I mean, why aren't you going to
bang?
Why aren't you banging the
teacher you're not going to?
Tell the whole point is for you
to you know, it's a clout thing,
right?
Got her, you know.
You know Missus Smith, guess
what I'm doing right?
That's totally a thing.
Right.
I mean, it's not like you, you
know, I'm just going to tell my
boys no, because then one of
them's going to tell somebody
and that's how you get caught.
Right.
It it's, it's doomed all the way
around, right?
Sure.
The the adult, the the woman
adults, because I'm not going to
say man, male, adult.
It's totally.
Totally different, totally
different thing the.
Woman, adult needs to think that
through as well.
Like like what's going to happen
here?
I sleep with this kid.
This kid is going to tell
everybody he's not going to keep
it to himself.
Right.
What is she's looking?
I just got to have this kid.
Right, she's out of her mind,
even with alcohol.
That's what I mean.
I mean, people just don't.
I don't know.
It's wild.
Well, the next story.
OK, physical education teacher.
Oh God, you got another one.
There was another one.
That's what I.
Mean.
Oh my God.
Got disturbingly hands on a
married She was married.
A married high school physical
education teacher has been
charged with sexually assaulting
a student whom she admits
sexting and kissing but denies
ever getting fully physical with
him.
OK, so she she, she was testing
the limits.
Right, she said.
Right.
I mean, probably would have
eventually happened.
But hey, same scenario here like
I'm going to send a picture.
Right.
Yeah, she's 39.
She's she was attractive woman
also.
OK, unfortunately, I guess she
started sending flirty messages
to a boy when he was in her
sophomore class at Panganesset
High School in Gloucester, Rhode
Island.
All right.
So probably also 16 or 17.
After she found his number
online, she she went looking.
She stalked them.
She stalked.
That's some next level stuff
right there.
She's crazy.
And this one's a teacher.
This is a P/E teacher.
Then apparently she grabbed his
face and gave him a big kiss and
that is what she got in trouble
for.
That's how she got caught.
Yeah, I mean, keep your hands to
yourself.
Well, I mean, she was sexting
and she.
Couldn't help it.
Anyway, she couldn't help it.
But even that, I mean, you know,
you're going to go Misses Jones,
whatever she just sent me.
Right, not going to believe
this.
Not.
Going to believe this.
There's evidence.
Right here's a nipple.
Here's a nipple.
She has nibbles.
She has nibbles.
Look, she bent it on picking up
a volleyball.
Dude, what is going on man?
Four stories this week about
teachers and and boys.
Why do you think that is?
Why do you think that the
articles the news articles are
covering?
Because you've got to know those
ones that are the other way
around.
Got to be a dude in there
somewhere.
Way more disturbing, right?
Right.
I.
Don't know, maybe these images
are more socially acceptable.
This is this.
Isn't maybe we're supposed to be
more outraged?
There isn't a big uproar about
it as because I'm going to tell
you right now, if you touch a
girl like dude tarred and
feathered, let's go right, You
know, in the town square.
In the town square.
Right.
I'm talking old school.
I'm talking Salem witchcraft.
Let's go.
Salem witch hunts.
That too, Yeah.
Yeah, Well, rich witchcraft is
what?
Like gets the hunts, yeah, yeah.
Or trials Salem witch trials.
That's.
What?
It was all right.
Oh, poor boots.
I don't have boots to save me
today.
I'm on my own.
I'm going to say all the you're.
Saying they're stupid.
You're.
Saying David Moore, do not
engage on any of the bad things
that I say.
Just the only highlight on list.
The Times.
Only on the only highlight on
Palmer today.
You said there was a stopwatch.
I love it dude that guy is
dialed in.
So impressive.
All right, you got a video.
I do not have.
A video on yesterday's show was
there.
No, I was thinking about
covering a video today, but I
did not get it.
I'm kind of entertained.
So my boy Nick's at Cigar Den.
Yes.
He's been doing these videos
where he'll talk and then it'll
flip over to him moving
somewhere else and it'll flip
over and moving somewhere else.
And it was like the first one he
did was hilarious because it was
a snow day and they were closed.
Tomorrow we won't be open.
There's a Blizzard and he's
jumping, jumping, jumping,
jumping, jumping.
There's a word for that.
It's it keeps the audience
intrigued.
Yeah.
So it was pretty good.
But now I feel like it's become
a little redundant and I'm like,
all right, man, got to let's go
mix it up.
Got to mix it up.
Well, you know, you find a new
thing and it's easy to edit and
you're like, I'll do four or
five of these this.
Is fun, yeah.
Right.
So.
Well, we got cigar news, but I
want to talk about something.
Else I don't remember.
My nose is itchy.
I know it's bothering me it.
Is it's bothering me too, all
right?
You knew.
You knew who Tom Segura is A
comedian.
Yeah, he works with.
He's hilarious.
Bert Kreischer, right?
Yeah.
His stand up is hilarious.
He does like 5 different
podcasts.
Does he?
He does one by himself, right?
He does one with Bert.
OK, there's another one with
Bert.
Well, wait.
He does his and then he does.
Then him and Bert do one
together.
Then I think he's on one that
Bert does, and then I think Bert
is on one that he does, and then
he does one with his wife.
OK, They're all terrible.
Are they?
They're all terrible.
What do you mean?
Well, I was watching his shorts
the day before yesterday, so
last night.
And you know, I listen to real
radio during the day, but at
night I don't like the content
on that night.
So when it gets after five, I
think it is or not 5-6.
I'm looking for other stuff to
listen to.
OK, I don't like the nighttime
stuff.
So I thought, oh, I'll Tom
Segura's got a podcast.
I'll listen to that.
So the one with his wife is
called In My Mother's House.
OK.
They basically just sit there
and chat about their their day
sort of.
And then they like to watch
videos and they don't really
talk about the videos.
OK.
They just sort of talk between
themselves.
Right.
It's terrible.
It's not for you.
I mean, they have commercials on
him, so I mean, somebody's fan,
but he is Tom Segura, so I mean,
he's got some name recognition.
Yeah, but there's probably a
world of people that want to
peer into that and, you know, oh
it.
Was terrible.
And even the one with Kreicher,
they were talking about fast
food.
Yeah.
Who had the best French fries?
I mean, we talk about fast food.
Who has an entire show though?
Now, how long is the show?
Who is the best friend?
I don't know.
I couldn't get past 15 minutes.
Oh really?
These things are important, man.
We got to know who's the What is
the best fast food?
I don't think so.
McDonald's.
And then they get on these
tangents about, OK, they're not
fast food anymore.
Like, hey, have you ever been to
Outback?
Oh, I love Outback.
The booming on it.
Oh yeah.
I think that's.
Good.
It's terrible, terrible content.
OK, sorry you feel that way.
Yeah.
They were terrible.
Sorry, Tom.
You're a big fan of our show.
I apologize.
Well, Bert did a picture with
Wild Bill about Rocky Patel.
I saw that.
The funny part is that I don't
think that he smokes Rocky Patel
from the interaction that
happened up here.
Right.
No, I don't think so.
So but they gave him a free
boxes.
Like hey, take this shirt off
and do the picture.
It's like bro and what are we?
Doing the cigar guys have got a
picture of him on the beach
holding their box.
Oh really, they must.
Have months ago months.
Ago to him somewhere.
Yeah.
So I mean, if we would have gave
him a box, Greg would have gave
him a box of cigars.
Would you want that?
A box of cigars.
Would you want a picture of Bert
taking a picture holding the
Postagna cigars I.
Don't know why not I.
Don't know if I'd want that.
Why?
He put did he put the picture on
his Instagram or was he on their
Instagram?
It just doesn't feel authentic
to me.
Oh, he does that same face.
Yeah, I don't know.
But like, it just feels Addy.
It doesn't feel real to me right
now.
If Bert's like, man, I love your
cigars.
These are great.
That'd be a totally different
scenario.
But cool, man.
You know, he's like, hey, I
mean, like, let's let's take a
picture with him.
And I'm like, OK, but you know,
to to shove a box in front of a
person, say hey, take a photo
with this.
Yeah, I'm not about that, I
don't think.
That that's if you want one, I
can make one.
And that I know.
And that's the other thing,
like, dude, we can have
everybody.
We can have the Ayatollah who
right before he blew up, holding
it, you know what I mean?
Oh, did you see 2 days ago it
was me sitting at a big
conference table with all the
ayatollahs and I'm pushing a box
of beepers across the table to
the.
On the title, yeah, the
thumbnail, the thumbnail.
My mic popped off here.
Uh oh.
And then yesterday was Richie
pumping gas and into his car and
it was gas prices whiplash again
or something.
Like that with a bolt of
lightning or something.
No, no bolt of lightning.
Like the audio?
There's like an audio thing.
Oh God, are we just going to let
it hang?
Are we off?
Are we off now?
Now you have.
It is what it is.
Where is it?
It's there.
Don't worry.
Don't you worry.
No, it's right here.
Oh, all right.
And on cigar news?
So no, I mean, I don't think
that I would want a guy like I
just the only guy that I would
want supporting the brand,
right, would be the guy who
loves the brand, likes the
brand.
Yeah, some kind of like
consumers already see like this
is bullshit, right?
Like this is not you.
Don't think somebody looks at it
and goes birth crasher likes.
Maybe, but I don't know.
Somebody would.
Still, for me, it just doesn't
feel right, you know, if Bert
loved the cigars.
Hey man, these are great.
I'm a fan dude.
Like awesome for one.
I'd probably send him a box.
Hey, thanks for your support.
Appreciate it.
Whatever, you know, just like
Rogan with.
Foundation.
Yeah, like, he legit likes those
cigars, right?
That's perfect.
Right.
Like, one of the craziest things
for me was when we kind of got
going, there was a running back.
His name's Michael Turner,
Turner the burner.
And he came up to me at PCA when
we were just getting going.
He's like, man, I love your
cigars.
I was like, serious.
He goes, yeah, man, I'm a big
fan.
And like, you know, like, hey,
let's take a picture together or
something like that.
And I'm like, oh, this is
fantastic.
Because you knew that that guy
was, he was all about it.
He, you know, he was, he loves
cigars.
He loved our cigars.
So that made me feel good,
right.
But the other way around, No, I
wouldn't dig that at all.
Hey, I need you to take a
picture with us.
It's just tacky.
When I was at one of the shops I
was at yesterday, they started
talking about Patrick Bette
Davis.
It was some military guys there
because it's near the naval
base, right?
And one guy was telling one of
the other customers about the
podcast.
And I walked, you know, so I
popped back into the room and
go, oh, I've met him.
Yeah.
I'm a member every day.
They've got a private lounge.
I'm a member down at the.
Casual flex for you, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh yeah, I'm in the boardroom.
Are you in the boardroom?
Yeah, well, the one guy's like,
oh, where's the boardroom,
'cause he lives in Fort
Lauderdale.
He was up there visiting.
Oh, he doesn't know.
No, I go.
Well I have problems finding it
every time I go, but it's the
value tainment building across
the street from the big church.
Dude, you should have put him in
touch with Daniel right then and
there.
Oh, I wouldn't even think of
that.
I was busy busy flexing.
I see that, but that bigger flex
there is like.
Let me have you speak.
To me, I don't know if I have
Daniel's number.
Let me give you my guide.
I could have got it though,
yeah.
Sorry, you'll do better next
time.
Right.
OK.
All right, cigar news.
Cigar News New Cigar is coming
out.
Fratello USA is announced their
250 cigar debuting at the PCA.
Another Quincence Antenna 10.
Notable in honor of America.
Right here we go, we get another
new cigar that will celebrate
the 250th anniversary of
founding of America, next
month's 2026 PCA convention and
trade show.
He did not list the dates again.
He did in one of your other
articles.
Oh, did he, April?
Maybe Ted the end he says the
18th through the 21st, but it's
the 17th through the 20th.
Oh really?
Yes, Portella USA 250 will show
off.
It's a 6 by 54 Toro that uses a
Nicaraguan wrapper over a
Pennsylvania binder and fillers
from the Dominican Republic and
Pennsylvania Exotic
Pennsylvania.
Earthy tones the.
Cigar is being rolled at Fabrica
de Tobacco's Hoya de Nicaragua.
OK, what do you think this cigar
is going to cost Hoya?
Yes. 250 cigar.
They've made 250.
Hold on.
They made 250 boxes of 13
cigars.
They did it right. 13 colonies.
They got the day. 25 bucks. $20
OK nice.
Omar had some long winded thing.
He's been doing a lot of videos
lately.
Have you seen those?
Yeah, You know what?
What's funny too, is like he's
in a lot of, he's in more spots
than you'd realize.
Like I saw his stuff at ABC.
Yeah, so.
Is he considered a I'm sorry, is
he considered a boutique?
Brand.
He's 100% of boutique.
Oh then Water Wheel carries 1
boutique brand.
Oh no no that was at S St.
Never mind.
I went so many shops it's hard
to get confused.
So how did it go like Water
Wheel?
You went to Water Wheel
Jacksonville and they said we
only carry legacy brands.
Well, I went well, first thing
the manager who's there he goes,
oh, So what can I help you with
today?
And I go, Oh no, I'm I'm with
lasagna cigars.
And then he immediately tells me
that he's leaving in three days.
He does or the 26th, he's not
going to be the manager anymore.
I'm like, OK, and he goes, you
just missed the the guy that's
going to be taking over.
I go, oh, sorry, OK, I go, well,
can I leave a price list on my
card and a couple of samples and
he goes, sure, I'll give them to
him.
He immediately swipes one up and
starts lights it up right there.
Of course that's what I would
do.
Right.
I go, can I go look in your
humidor?
And he goes certainly.
So, you know, go walk around.
I'm like, oh crap, there is not
a boutique in here to be found.
And you said that to him?
Well, I came out and I go, you
guys don't have many boutiques
that I'll do.
He goes.
They don't really sell here.
It's kind of a Jacksonville
thing.
And I'm thinking, no, it's not a
Jacksonville thing.
Right, there are plenty of.
Boutique shops, boutique shops.
So then he tells me again that
he's leaving, right?
Wants to make sure that I know
he's leaving.
I'm going.
I'm going, I go OK, well and he
tells So I go to can I have a
card for the shop phone number
stop and he goes we don't have
any cards.
OK.
Like OK, can I get a phone
number?
Sure.
And he rouses the phone number
to put on my phone and go.
And what's the new manager's
name?
He tells me the manager's name.
I go, OK, I go, well, then I'll
check back in a couple weeks.
I'll give him a little time to,
you know, get his feet wet.
And he goes, oh, no, he knows
what he's doing.
I've been training him.
He'll be fine.
But yeah, you should give him,
give him some time, OK?
All right, well, it doesn't
sound like.
In and out in 10 minutes.
Doesn't sound like it's going to
be very fruitful.
No, that one, probably not.
No, but actually he went well,
he actually just texted me again
this morning.
Thank you for coming by.
Yeah, that one's probably going
to be.
Good.
OK.
And four boxes at Tobacco Cove.
They're doing well with their
stuff.
They want to switch the
Connecticut for the Albano.
Connecticut's not doing well,
but they're going to sell.
Abano's not doing well.
No, no, the Connecticut's not
doing well.
Really.
Yeah.
That's kind of surprising.
Yeah, it is.
I thought so too.
I mean, they could have used one
box, but then they told me, no,
we're going to sell through on
that and then we're going to
bring your Urbana in that we
tried last time you were here.
I was like, oh, OK, that's what
you want.
I've been smoking a lot of the
Albano lately too.
I did yesterday.
The Toro swinging now.
Oh, is that what it is?
Yeah.
Right here, right here.
Look at me.
Look at me.
Look at me.
Oh yes.
There you go.
The trade show, which takes
place 18th to the 20th in New
Orleans.
There you go, you got it right.
No, it's 17th to the 20th, maybe
the 17th, the day we can show
them set up, maybe the actual
show.
Right.
So it's only two days the show
just two days is.
Here 18/19/20.
Oh.
That's three last time I
checked.
I got you.
OK.
All right, two new Long live the
Queens you're coming to.
From Caldwell.
Yes, there are two new all.
There are two all new versions
of Caldwell's Long live the
Queen line heading to stores as
part of Caldwell Caldwell's
crafted and curated series,
which is aimed at releasing
limited editions.
There will be two new Long live
the Queens, both offered in a
loan 6 by 60 Gordo Vitola.
OK.
Interestingly, in the blends are
new and not the same as the
originals.
They're new.
Right, but he liked the name, so
he just stuck with it.
Right, so both the Long live the
Queen Forbidden Fruit, Calero
and Oscurro uses the Mexican San
Andreas wrapper, although the
one is classified as Rosado.
OK.
The Clara.
It's like it's a lighter,
lighter, like almost like a
reddish, yeah.
The Rosado Rose.
Right.
Why are you so smart?
The Clero uses an internal
blend, Loses uses an internal
blend entirely of Dominican
tobaccos, while the Escuro uses
a Sumatra binder and fillers
from Dominican Republic and
Nicaragua.
OK.
Alright, the Long live the Queen
Forbidden.
We don't need the sizes.
Oh, there's only Nope.
There's we already said there
are 6 by 60. 6 by 60.
What's the retail on those?
16501650 Production is limited,
400 boxes of each.
Cigars are made of Tabacolera
Nina del Rey.
See, that's always weird to me
because like normally your Gordo
cigar guy and I could be wrong
here, but I think I like to
think that I know a couple
things about retail when it
comes to 660, when it comes to
that bigger gauge, more people
look for value as far as price
point then they do flavor
profile and it being, you know,
higher priced, right?
So like 1650, is that a price
point that is good for a 660?
Maybe it is at this point in
this market, but I would tend to
believe that it's probably
something like a 12, maybe 13 as
you're really kind of pushing
that limit for a 6 by 60.
So how does a 660 become cheaper
than a?
Toro, Well, it depends upon the
tobacco.
It depends upon, I mean a lot of
those things.
I mean, realistically, like do
you think that there's a big
difference in the cost of making
a 5 by 50 robusto or a 6 by 60
Gordo?
I would think.
Material wise, no.
There's not more tobacco.
And there is, but material wise
like the cost is pennies, it's
not, it's not a significant
difference.
Gotcha.
I mean, maybe labor might take a
little bit longer, but still,
you know, your cost isn't isn't
that much more.
Is the rolling rolling times got
to be longer because it's a
bigger cigar?
Yeah, but again, you're, you're
rolling in a third world
country.
It's not like it's oh.
No, I yeah, I was just curious
for my own information.
So you know, that's why you
usually see when you usually see
the six 60s that are successful,
usually they're more value
based, 8 to 12 range, something
like that.
Interesting.
Right.
Oregon, Oregon Oregon Oregon
Oregon, Oregon Home of Buck
night.
Anyway, we did a story a couple
of weeks ago how they were
outline online sales.
Yeah.
Right, they decided that was
stupid.
Apparently we look at paper, we
think this is very dumb and we
remove.
We removed last month.
The bill was introduced in the
Oregon legislation that would
have banned Internet sales of
cigars and pipe tobacco to
consumers in the state.
However, upon further
introspection, the bill's
introduction, the bill's primary
sponsor, included an amendment
that would stripe the proposed
legislation of language
surrounding cigars.
Oh, so they can remove cigars?
Gonna remove cigars?
Apparently you just can't buy
online vapes.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a question of what
they're really trying to do with
this legislation.
Are you trying to regulate
vapes?
Are vapes still this problem?
Then?
Then why are you lumping cigars
into it?
And I think that's something
that we, that this industry's
been really pushing for is look,
we are not the same.
We're two totally different
things, you know.
I think it's what these people
that they just everything that
was smokeable we're going on.
Right, tobacco.
Like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, hey, these are
cigars.
Let's pump the brakes.
You know my kids not going to be
able to bring a cigar in, buy a
cigar illegally, sneak it into
high school and then smoke it in
the bathroom and it be
undetected.
That's just not nor do the the
kid have the desire to do that.
Right.
So like, if this isn't a
problem, why are we why are we
over regulating it?
It makes no sense.
Not at all Has Jax ever asked to
try a cigar.
He's your oldest.
Of course.
Right.
Of course.
Well, but OK, so this is a
little bit of a different
scenario, right?
It's like Dad is Dad's the guy,
right?
Dad's the cigar guy, right?
Dad smokes all the time, right?
And Dad takes care of himself.
It's not like I'm.
You're sickly.
Right.
It's not like I'm unfit.
It's not like I'm morbidly
obese.
You know, if, if Jax wants to
race, we can race, you know,
like, no problem.
So you know.
Isn't that how you blew out your
calf last time?
I popped both calves.
Yes, being when.
You're having a little scoot
around.
But like, yeah, at that point I
was going all out, all out.
So yeah.
So yeah, I'm getting older, you
know?
Trust me, I understand.
That, but I think that some of
those things are more avoidable
if I would do something like
stretch or you know, you know,
like we'll race give me about.
You know, give dad a few minutes
here.
I got to I got to loosen up.
I.
Need about 5 minutes to get
ready and then I wouldn't have a
problem.
But no, for me, I'm just running
routes extremely hard and making
cuts and all this other stuff
like, OK, it's probably not in
the best interest of my body,
but I'll still do it.
And then I would do it even
after I popped my calf.
So.
So yeah.
So it has Jack's ass, right?
But is the answer no?
Yeah, the answer's no.
Like not happening.
Not even just a puff.
No, no, that's not that's not in
that's not in the conversation
at this age bracket, right.
You know, he's got a better
chance of banging his female
fist teacher than he does
smoking a cigar with me right
now.
Right now, or, or teacher for
whatever that will, you know.
I don't think there's an age
line where I wouldn't be high
fiving my son if I find out he'd
bang the teacher.
Of course, Yeah, yeah.
What's that line?
I'm thinking.
Go ahead. 15.
You think 15 is 15 and below or
15?
15 and higher. 15 and higher is
acceptable.
Well, not acceptable, but less
less offensive to me personally.
Less offensive to you
personally, 15.
OK, I'm at 16.
I think 16 is fine where I'm
like, Oh my goodness, well, you
got to look at everybody like,
oh man, that's terrible.
Yeah, right.
Wink, wink.
Like wow dude, OK now let's
learn.
But now at that point, you got
to have serious conversations
about everything else.
Well, yeah.
Sure, like.
I mean, I'm not encouraging him
at 15, you know, you know what?
You're go out.
Go out and wax the whole school.
I had that parent teacher
conference.
I got no listen.
But, you know, there is a, there
is a time when, like, you got to
have a conversation with a kid
and say, listen, are you doing
the right things?
Are you, are you, are you
protecting yourself?
You know, and every kid is
different.
Like Jax, you know, I'm
fortunate enough where he's
still very much a kid.
And I'm holding on to those
moments.
Oh, yeah.
As long as I can.
You have to.
Right.
So you know, they go.
Fast.
Yeah.
So, you know, from a dad's
perspective, I'm not encouraging
any of that, right?
Sure, I'm encouraging, You know,
I'm encouraging.
Let's play sports.
Let's let's keep active.
Let's hang out with our friends,
Let me know when friends aren't
making the right decisions so
that I can help you navigate
through it.
Right.
Those are the important parts of
the conversation.
But no, at the end of the day,
yeah, I feel like 16 is.
I'm not like, Oh my God, you
know?
Why did it just cut to me and I
wasn't even talking?
I think it's just fine.
It's going to be great.
When you talk, my microphone
goes off and when I talk your
microphone goes off, so.
There's a slight delay before it
switches I think at times.
No, I just spent the the.
I mean, when I talk, yours still
picks me up a little bit.
Yeah.
Of course we're in the same
room, buddy.
So nervous about what is it
going to be.
It's going to be, look, jump off
the Cliff.
Yeah, I understand.
Yeah, I know.
We're building A and I got a
plane on the way down.
I got news for you.
We're one of the top podcasts in
the cigar industry.
We give out more content than
anybody does.
Oh, yeah.
By a long shot.
So, you know, if this one was a
little rocky just because we
wanted to push the envelope a
little bit more and get a little
bit better, I'm OK with that,
right?
All right, but if you go to
Hawaii and Utah, you still can't
buy cigars online, No.
Hawaii still shutting down?
Hawaii and Utah remain the only
two states that ban online cigar
sales to consumers in their
states.
That's insane.
Though there's proposed
legislation in both states that
would reverse that law.
Oh, really?
Yes.
So in Oregon, there's waiting on
the governor to sign it.
The the other two people have
said, oh, it's fine.
So they're working on just
removing the legislation of any
type of regulation for online
sales.
For Oregon.
Oh, or, but Utah and Hawaii
aren't working on that yet.
Hawaii has legislation but they
haven't decided yet.
I've I've Utah's come up a
couple of times but I haven't
heard anything from Utah.
We're waiting on Charlie to give
us that news.
Oh, wait.
On Charlie.
Yeah, wait, not Charlie.
Come on, app will let us know if
there's anything changes.
Oh, it's a female governor.
Oh, what if she's banging
everybody?
Wonder how old she is and then
she's throwing house parties.
She's throwing a pool party at
her.
House.
Yeah, and if her son's smart
enough to say, you know, there's
a terrible.
Idea.
That's a terrible idea, mom.
No party, no alcohol.
Apparently, she even asked the
kids what kind of alcohol they
wanted.
Of course she's a cool mom,
right?
Right.
What do you drink when you're
16?
What do you think of the White
Claws and fruity things?
They don't do wine coolers
anymore.
Well, you're not supposed to be
drinking any of those things, so
you know.
I don't know, but what?
What do you think they asked for
though?
It's just I'll tell you that
it's a question of what their
icons are drinking that they see
on whatever format.
You know, like the scary part is
for younger kids, it's more
often than not, it's energy
drinks.
Like, hey, I want right?
Give me that ghost.
Let me try that.
Let me try like that's a bigger.
Problem so for loco.
I could see that.
That would be more along the
lines, yeah.
They did not look like an inner
city crowd.
An inner city crowd, Yeah.
What do you mean?
4 Loko is more of an inner city.
Drink.
It's more urban.
Yeah, Urban, I guess that would
be the word.
Urban city.
Yeah.
No, I mean, like for me the the
argument is always even coffee.
Hey, let me try that coffee.
I'm like, no, no, you're not
trying the coffee.
No coffee either.
No, not at all.
They don't need caffeine.
Are you kidding me?
I got one kid that run that
goes.
I got one kid.
Justice wears everybody else
out.
Don't you like the kids drink
that prime stuff?
Is that an?
Energy, not the energy kind and
that's and that the regular
prime is kind of move.
We've moved through that.
It's we've moved on.
Well, I mean, you read a new
book.
They like, no, I'm just saying
as far as demand is concerned,
they weren't about it.
But like they'll drink like
propels, like, you know,
flavored water, stuff like that.
With Locale, I don't mind that,
you know, I mind that when they
waste it, that shit drives me
nuts.
They take a sip of it and it's
just sitting on the.
Counter.
I find it in the backseat of the
car.
And I'm like, dude.
There's $75.00 right here in.
My right, I'm like, you guys got
to be kidding.
There are two plates in my car
right now.
Half eaten muffins.
Oh, let's see you.
You just got it back.
You're not keeping it.
Clean on the way to school, they
like to eat and then and then
they figure my man servant dad
will take care of this.
I can't take this in with me.
Yeah, like where do you want me
to put it?
I'll just leave it here on this
chair.
Friends can't see me eating a
tutti frutti muffin.
It's.
Going to be amazing tomorrow
I'll come back in this car and
it'll be gone oh they're.
Not going to eat it?
Make them eat it on the way
home.
Yeah.
No, no, no, eat.
That on the way to practice.
There you go.
Right, all right, time for the
how are we going to play?
What's the score?
I'll just do it.
That's no fun.
No.
All right, time for the
industry's favorite game.
What's the?
Score No flipping, no flipping,
no flipping that.
Didn't know what to do, didn't
know what to do.
They're both talking.
What do I do now?
Oh.
My God.
Well, you can make 1A priority
over the other.
We tried that, it didn't work.
It worked too well.
That's the problem.
January 27th, 2018.
Brooks Whittington, The Alec
Bradley Cigar, The Black Market
Bootlegger.
Black market bootlegger Alec
Bradley.
Alec Bradley.
And this is recent. 02012. 02012
it's probably raises 88.
Black market bootlegger from
Honduras.
The factory is Tabaco de
Oriente.
Oh, Audible.
Rapper is Nicaraguan Binder
Sumatra.
OK.
Filler Honduras, Panama and
Nicaragua.
Length 5 and a quarter by 54.
It is a robusto Gordo.
It's a fat, Shorty $15 cigar
back then and they smoked tree.
85 I'm going to drop 85.
The Cigar Deliver Oh clue #1 The
cigar delivers a rich and
consistent profile built around
creamy oak, complimented by
flavors of Graham cracker
sweetness, coffee, cocoa nibs
and spice that keeps the
experience engaging.
Boy, we got cocoa nibs off the
jump.
Cocoa nibs.
I'm going to say 88.
Clue #2 construction is strong
overall, with a razor sharp burn
for much of the cigar and very
heavy smoke production that
creates a full and satisfying
smoking experience.
Brooks is all about this.
He likes this one.
I'm going to say I'm going to
move up another point.
I'm going to go 89.
Clue #3 The draw tends to run a
bit loose at times, and the
occasional floral note on the
finish can briskly disrupt the
overall balance of the flavor
profile.
Flavor profile disruption
Inconsistent burning Flavor
profile disruption 86. 86 Final
thought I have smoked the number
of the black market releases
over the years and have found
them to be an enjoyable, albeit
fairly linear blend.
While the Bootlegger shares some
similarities in both profile and
flavors compared to what I
remember of the original blend,
there is a noticeable increase
in spice on the finish as well
as more sweetness on the retro
hill, although I did have to
touch up two of the samples a
couple of times.
Construction overall was quite
good.
And if you like, if you like
cigar that put out a lot of what
was quite good and if you like
cigar that put out a lot of
smoke that doesn't sound like
some 2012, there are very few
releases that can they can beat
it in that regard.
In the end, I found the Alec
Bradley Black Market Bootlegger
to be very nice cigar in just
about every aspect.
Although people in the US may
not find it different enough to
compare it to more readily
available black market releases
to warrant the larger price and
having to have it shipped from
our friends to the north.
Where do I go here?
What are you at?
I think I was at 86 because you
didn't even have a bad one.
Maybe.
Maybe I'm at 88 and I'll.
It really doesn't matter.
Just pick another I.
Think I need to split the baby
here and I'm going to go 87. 87.
Oh, it's like Boots would have
lost boots.
Phil lost without even being
here.
Poor Phil Poor Phil Hope he's
having fun on his movie set.
On his movie set, yes.
More fun with Phil.
Phil No, it was Phil.
Phil and the semen.
It's a nautical.
It's a nautical adventure, The
nautical.
Adventure, yes.
OK, Anything else to add?
Next week on the 10th I'm on Chi
Town Cigars.
It's Tuesday at 7:30 Central
time, so what's at 6:30 for us?
Yep, 6:30 Eastern Standard Time.
Probably just going to stay.
Here OK.
And then on the 26th, 27th, we
will be at Bo Weevil.
Sure.
Oh man, get it together, honey.
I got home late, Bo Weevils
said, then had to do the upload.
Bo Weevil Cigars and Humor
Refined cigars in Dothan, AL.
Looking forward to seeing you
guys out there at the end of the
month.
So, OK, make sure you like and
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It's edutainment info all right.
All right, guys, we got to go.
My thing was I would flip the
microphone.
You're gone now.
I'm going to have a new thing.
All right, guys, we got to go.
Bye bye.
Show Notes
Now even Water Isn’t Safe! We have a mid east travel update, Old People are in the news again, Then one kid in Lousianne took the term “Play Misty For Me” way to seriously. Then in Cigar news we have a PCA cigar announcement =, two queens will be here soon and we are back on in Oregon! Then we wrap the day with a what’s the score.