ACHP Episode 483 "Waffle House Says 'Not Today Fishback"
Episode Summary
Mike Palmer, Mike Zonkiewicz and board operator Phil McGuffey open Episode 483 with Patreon smoke talk — an early-access Drew Estate Fire — before running through PCA show logistics, including the Calendly appointment link for retailers and media and the free hats going out to anyone who books a meeting at the booth.
The news block is pure Hustler's Podcast: Florida gubernatorial candidate Fishback gets criminally trespassed by Waffle House after four chaotic campaign stops (Jacksonville, St. Pete and beyond) and pivots to "Waffle Home" pop-ups; Palmer delivers a genuinely informative deep dive on how gas station pricing actually works — RBOB gas closing prices, the 4 p.m. market cutoff, tank volumes, nine-cents-a-gallon margins and why prices creep up fast and fall slowly. From there it's the announced UFC "Freedom 250" White House card (Alex Pereira vs. Cyril Gane for the interim heavyweight belt, Justin Gaethje, Sean O'Malley, Michael Chandler, Bo Nickal, Diego Lopes and Steve Garcia), Amy Luciani's viral video accusing Dwight Howard of cocaine addiction, and a Florida woman arrested for building a nine-hour blanket fort in the Target bedding aisle. Mike also gets surprised on-air with a Winter Park Flag Football League coaching leadership award.
Cigar news covers Lore Cigars' returning Jolly Walleye for 2026 — a 5.5x52 Robusto Extra with an Ecuadorian Habano Claro wrapper over an Ometepe binder and Estelí/Jalapa/Ometepe fillers, 300 bundles of 10, distributed by Valakari Cigars — plus the shipping of Leprechaun Dusk, the second Patina Cigars / Viaje Hornies collaboration with an Ecuadorian Candela wrapper and Oliva Tobacco Company binder and filler, made at Nicaragua American Cigars in Estelí. There's an honest retailer's perspective on ordering small from a young brand still learning wholesale fulfillment. J.C. Newman's Angel Cuesta Shade Doble Robusto sparks a running debate about how meaningless vitola names have become when a 5.5x56 is a "double Robusto."
The show closes with What's the Score, guessing Halfwheel ratings on the Arturo Fuente Don Carlos Sangre de Toro Undefeated (a San Andrés-wrapped Fuente that scored 92) and the 2010 601 La Bomba–era Edición Limitada Macho (also 92). Appearance notes: Palmer on Chai Town Cigars, and an event at Boll Weevil & Humidor Fine Cigars in Dothan, Alabama.
In This Episode
- 01Patreon Smoke & PCA AppointmentsThe guys light an early-access Drew Estate Fire and explain the Calendly booking link and free hats for retailers and media meeting them at PCA.
- 02Waffle House Trespasses FishbackThe Florida gubernatorial candidate's plan to hold a campaign meeting at every Waffle House ends in two fights and a cease and desist after four stops.
- 03How Gas Station Pricing Really WorksPalmer breaks down RBOB closing prices, the 4 p.m. market cutoff, tank volumes and the razor-thin per-gallon margins behind pump prices.
- 04UFC White House 'Freedom 250' CardAlex Pereira vs. Cyril Gane for the interim heavyweight title headlines a June 14 card that also features Justin Gaethje, Sean O'Malley, Michael Chandler and Bo Nickal.
- 05Dwight Howard Cocaine AllegationsAmy Luciani's viral video accusing her husband of a cocaine addiction after CPS removed a child leads to a long riff on the former NBA star.
- 06Florida Woman Builds a Target Blanket FortA nine-hour 'emotional staycation' in the bedding department ends in trespassing and theft-of-consumables charges.
- 07Cigar News: Jolly Walleye, Leprechaun Dusk & Angel CuestaLore's 2026 Jolly Walleye with a Habano Claro wrapper, the Patina x Viaje Hornies Candela collab, and J.C. Newman's Angel Cuesta Shade Doble Robusto spark a vitola-naming debate.
- 08What's the ScoreRating-guessing on the Arturo Fuente Don Carlos Sangre de Toro Undefeated and the 2010 601 Edición Limitada Macho — both 92s.
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Transcript
Welcome to Cigar Hustle Podcast Episode 483. Oh, it's a lot of numbers. I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and with me today, back from his set of his new movie, Phil and the Seaman: A Nautical Adventure, Phil McGuffey! Hey, Phil.
Did you say the seaman? Yeah. Yeah, the seaman, a nautical, Phil and the Seaman: A Nautical Adventure. Oh.
That was your movie you were on last week. Phil the Seaman. Yeah. How'd that go?
Uh, I don't recall this movie I was on. Oh, they had to drug him up again. Did you see his pictures on Facebook? No, I have not.
I saw pictures on Facebook this morning. Yes. Not a single shot of the buffet. Wow.
Yeah. Odd, right? Odd. Well, it's too busy.
Yeah. You know, what I have noticed about our dear friend, Phil, is that he likes to take pictures like this. Yeah, with his mouth open? Yeah.
I'm like, huh. Okay, that's his go-to. And as you can see, my co-host, Mikey, come interview me at PCA. I'm special.
Step on Kevin. Hi, I'm special. I'm special. Come see me.
That's why we smoking on Patreon today, Michael. Today, we are smoking the Early Access Drew Estate Fire. Can you see this, buddy? Are we on all of us still?
No, just you. Kind of. You're not going to see it because of the white label. Okay.
A little bit. Yeah. The writing is very small. This is early access fire.
This looks, I could be wrong, but this looks like a box press sumatra to me. You have the ice, I believe. Water. Water.
Water. Frozen. Frozen water. 2 grams.
And you're going to smoke the same thing? As you. We have a little special Patreon. It's going to open up with John Carney, and then we're going to get into this as well afterwards.
All right, on today's show, our favorite governor, gubernatorial candidate, Mr. Fishback, is in the news again. We have the card for the White House MMA, Dwight Howard apparently likes the nose candy. We have a Florida woman story today.
" full game to see if Phil learned anything from the Seaman. I'm back. Guess who's back. But before we get started, Michael, how do we get some of that CHPod Swaggerino?
What you want to do? com where we have all of our latest swag. Shout out to Brian Robertson, who just picked up a hat, so now we're almost gone. 79 hat?
079. And our dear friend and great supporter of the show, Mr. Mark Palmer, he picked up the Don Juan Nieves shirt. Oh.
He found one he didn't have. Oh, I don't have this one for my complete set. I must get this. So, getting into some comments from our recent show.
I wonder if we have some comments. Let's see here. There were comments. There were already comments?
There were comments. Oh, from today's show. I don't know. They were from Friday show, though.
Hmm. Okay. Well, I'm going to look. Show that went up today.
Nothing yet from today, but Friday show, Friday show. Oh, hold on. There's this ad. Oh, look at this.
I can draw an eyebrow. You can draw an eyebrow? Yeah. Oh, that's nice.
Water bottled in sanitary conditions. That's crazy. From Marty Cigar. Well, we've done, Stacey's mom's got it going on.
We've done that. Love you too, Mr. Palmer. Yeah, I think that's all we have.
Oh, so just the water. Just the one. There were some other comments from, I guess, from earlier on, but I'm going to try and stay on the more current. Mr.
Cigar Surgeon, you commented, but it was from like 17 episodes ago. He did. Do you want me to look that one up? You want to look that one up?
I love to hear it. I had no idea what he was talking about, and I looked at the episode. I'm like, oh, okay. I still don't know what he's talking about.
So he's 17 back. Roughly, yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous how far behind he is. We're definitely getting some comments on our shorts.
He's never gonna catch up. There's a few there. Well, that's the way Canada always has been. Canada's always a little behind.
A little behind. They're getting power up in Canada next week. Okay, so we're on episode what, 483 this is. Okay, he commented on episode 428.
More than that. Like, look who's not naming names now. Yeah, I don't know what that means. So, you know, maybe in about six months, he'll hear us saying this, and then he'll comment on episode 483.
We'll be well into the fives. Into the 500s by then, yes. Okay. See, we're at 483, so we have 17 more to go to get to 500?
So that's like three weeks? Yeah. Well, is he only listening to one a week, or? I don't know.
Who knows? Maybe we'll be on 800 by the time he gets to. " We don't know what your ha-ha in there. @CigarSurgeon commented on episode 483.
" He must really like the show, because I don't remember what we said. Right. But if you want to hear your comments on our podcast, comment below, talk about the show, and the funnier it is, and the more you make fun of these two, the more I'm going to reply and say something. We didn't make fun of him.
Yeah. This is our third episode with the lapel mics. I think we officially got it locked in as far as sound. So we're excited to have that.
Now, if you're a retailer and you're already a Postanya carrier and you want to meet with us at the show, we have a Calendly link for you for PCA. If you book your appointment, you're going to get a free Winged Hazaras hat. If you're a retailer and you're thinking, hey, I need to bring something new into the store, but I want something that has already got a good track record, that has been in the industry for a significant period of time, has always given great value for cigars and has great customer support from Mr. Palmer here or somebody like that, you don't need to look any further.
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Oh. The hat came in yesterday. Oh, did it? Yep.
I'm waiting on the press stuff, and I'll build them all, and we will show off the hat. Nice. In the upcoming episodes. So, like and subscribe, wherever you're viewing and listening to this show, and then let's get into it, gentlemen.
All right. One hat per appointment. One hat. Limited supplies.
When they're gone, they're gone, but we will have one hat for every appointment. " Yes. And I was like, look, man, I mean, look, man, it's so much easier for us if you pencil this stuff in so that we're organized, because if not, I'm like, yeah, no, don't worry about it. And then what happens?
Oh, I don't have a hat for you. Right. We had that problem with the bags. I forgot about this, you know, but if you just booked the appointment.
Right. You don't have to stay for the 15 minutes. Right. I mean, media wise.
Right. But we know exactly where you're going to come in. We can talk, kind of work things out. Shake hands, kiss babies, give me a little hug.
Yeah. I'm waiting on Coop. Coop hasn't hit the button. I sent him a link personally to his email, separate from everybody else.
Yeah, I cordially invite you to get a hat. Well, I didn't actually say that, but I did make sure he got it. Cigar Press, they're already locked in. Oh, Fred has?
Thor has. Thor? So Fred asked to book an appointment separately to get a separate hat. Yes.
You know the rules, Fred. The rules are rules. Rules are rules, Fred. Okay.
Let's get into the show. I want to smoke the cigar. I'm excited for it. No question, but I'm going to ask.
All right. You know who Fishback is? Our buddy Fishback. I did not until you told me who he was.
Okay. He's the guy that wants the OnlyFans tax, and he's doing the swipey swipey to me. He's the swipy swipy to meet women, I mean voters. Yeah.
Oh yeah, I remember this. He's the guy that's doing ridiculous things and he's all over the media. Well. Seems to be working.
Thought of something else. Okay. He decided he wanted to have a campaign meeting at every Waffle House in the state of Florida. Every?
Every. That was his, that's what he wanted to do. I gotta be honest, this may be the first thing I can get behind. Support.
Well, he had four of them. Uh-oh. Two fights. And now Waffle House has trespassed him.
Oh, my God. Cease and desist. I like how you said four. Four.
He had four. Well, I was curious how many he had before they got pissed off. So I checked. He had four.
Jacksonville, St. Pete, and two other places I've never heard of before. It's not like, you know, Waffle Houses are in every city. They're not?
" Okay, so why did they cancel? No, but they don't say. I don't know. Unless, 'cause he had it outside, not inside, so it looked like a lot of, there was a couple of photos, a lot of people outside, talking to a lot of people, nobody going in.
Oh, people showed up, and it was outside. Right. So, I would imagine it hurt business, you know, he can't get to the door, 'cause like he's, like he's sitting here, the Waffle House is at, uh, where... Phil sits, and then everybody's just standing between him and the building.
So nobody's inside. He's giving a speech, blah, blah, blah, and then probably everybody left. Do you think these people are like legit supporters of him, or they're like people that you pay to show up? I don't know.
There was a lot of them. Yeah? Because somebody, I watched a thing where I saw that they were talking about one person in particular, and how this guy, he's like the head of an organization, and he pays people like $2,000 a month, It was a month to show up to all of these things, protest at times, support at times, and all this other stuff, so it's like, how much of that is actually fabricated, you know? Right.
He seems like the kind of guy that would have people hired to show up. Right. I can't see anybody getting behind taxation on OnlyFans. I mean, we only heard about it because it was canceled.
Right. So it's not like, you know, like if he had one of the local Waffle House here in Deltona, how would you even know? Right. And I didn't even remember the guy's name.
Right. " But he made a statement on X, revealing that they had given him, they criminally trespassed him, they originally gave him permission, blah, blah, blah. So now he's going to have pop-up events, and he's going to have Waffle Home meetings. Oh, so that's like a big...
He said at Waffle House, he's calling the Waffle Home. Yeah, that's just like a big F you, man. Like, you know what I mean? I think, like, while Viles went out, they said, okay, no problem, because they thought that it would be advantageous for business.
Bring business in, right, right. They had four of them. And instead, it's not advantageous for business, it's a complete cluster for them. So, they said, hey, dude, this isn't working out, we're gonna X-nate it.
And now, sorry, go ahead. And, like, to make it worse, I bet you that they approached him and said, hey, we don't want to do this anymore. And then he probably, I would guess, that he went over the top and said, well, you already committed to this. You said that we were going to do this, and we're going forward with that.
Right. Or they banned him after three, and he still did the fourth one. Yeah, something like that. They're like, oh, now we've got to trespass.
I don't think it was like a ban. I think that they probably said, hey, we can't do this. Oh, no. Well, they criminally trespassed him.
Okay. You're not letting me finish. Sorry. Again, they reached out to him and they said, hey, we can't do this.
We don't want to do this anymore. And he had to go over the top and say, you committed to this. I'm doing this. You can't stop me.
And then they said, "Okay, well now, here you go. " Right. So, I mean, you can't even eat there now. He's not missing out on much.
I don't know. I like Waffle House. You're a big Waffle House guy. I'm not a big one, but I like it.
Phil, if you were trespassed from Waffle House, how badly would that affect your life? Man, I'm going to tell you what. That scrambler bowl. Boones over Miami?
Yeah, that sounds good right there, man, and it's cheap, it's cheap. No, it's affordable. Yeah, you know what, with today's prices, yeah, you're right, it is affordable. Yeah.
Especially gas going up an extra dollar. 89 now. Diesel did. 25 today.
Well, 'cause you're at Costco. Well, that's right. It's different. Costco.
And there's other states than just this one. We supposedly have some of the highest gas across the nation, so. What's that? We have some of the highest gas prices in America.
I believe that. Of course, they hit the tourists when they come here, but we get suckered into it. Gotta get 'em. You ever go to that one gas station?
So there's one gas station as you approach the airport. Oh, yeah. And the gas price is like always six bucks or something. Is it something like that?
Because they got in trouble. Did they? Yeah, I saw somebody take a picture and put it on Facebook. " Yeah, I know where it is, dude.
I had to hit it one time. I'm like, son of a bitch. Oh, you could have made it another five miles? No.
Why is he getting in trouble? Because he's price gouging. How is he? There's other options.
So there's other options in a hurricane too, but people get in trouble for price gouging. He's gouging you because you got to drop your rental car off. He's the last gas station before you get to the airport. I don't hate the guy because it seems like it's an appropriate move.
I don't know how the gas prices work of gouging or anything because I see different prices all over the place. And I know there's different taxes and stuff like that, but yeah, to see something like that is like, that's nuts. An extra $3 on top of, you know, what it already is, you know. Well, if you look at RBOB gas for the current month, it tells you the price per gallon.
Right. So then, depending upon counties and taxes, like I know Volusia, like a rough number to kind of get is about like 55 to 60 cents above that closeout price. Now, if you get it after 4 o'clock, that's the price. If you get it before 4 o'clock, it was the previous day's price, right?
Oh, so 4 o'clock is the time change? Correct. That's when the market closes. Oh, okay.
10, right? $310, plus you got to add your credit and debit charges and stuff like that, $320, $317, now that's still at cost, right? 09 a gallon. So, look, I'm only speaking on my previous experiences, and I can't speak for every gas company, right?
But so, yeah, as it goes up, that's where you, that's where the gas stations usually normally struggle, right? It's like, okay, I need to be it so that I'm kind of, so I'm breaking even, but I'm still remaining competitive or just slightly profitable, right? And you try and make money on concessions when people come in, right? So as it rolls up, it rolls up, it rolls up, then all of a sudden, if you never noticed, like oil tanks or like RBOB gas, the ticker, all of a sudden it shoots down, right?
So what happens is they'll trickle it down slowly. So if it drops... So they can make up. Right.
If it drops 50 or 60 cents, maybe they'll drop it 10 cents the first round. Then they'll drop it another... First of all, they got to still clear out of the gas they have in the tank and that they paid top dollar for. And then they'll slowly try and make their profit that way.
Do these gas stations all have like a forum or something? Because they, they're like in sync, right? Like, I mean, they, like what you're saying, like, say it drops a lot. Right.
They're in sync, like, nobody is, like, a dollar cheaper. They have a reasonable formula. Oh, okay, so they have a thing to follow. Because you have to average your profit, right?
Right. So, like, you can look at how much money you've, how much, how long you've taken it on the chin. Like, when gas prices were at, like, five bucks and, you know, those, those, these gas stations, they weren't making any money. They weren't making more, you know?
Yeah, because their margin was probably so slim, because they're just trying to get gas out. Yeah, 100%. The prices that are going up now, do you think, I mean, that can't be for the gas they already have. I mean, it's like we bombed Iran, the prices went up.
Yeah. Like that day. Yeah. I mean.
So what's your question? Oh, you're saying that the gas that they already bought in their tank. Right, the gas that's already in the tank, that price didn't go up. No, they already purchased that.
Right, so are they anticipating the next round of gas they have to buy? Well, normally what they'll do is, because to avoid sticker shock, they will start to nudge it up, right? You got to remember that a tank in the ground, I think maxed out holds like 9,000 gallons, 9,500 gallons, something like that. I think a tanker in itself is like 7,500.
So, one tanker fill, I mean, how much volume are you going through, right? Like, is the tank coming in every day? Is the tanker coming in twice a week? You know, so what you try and do is you try and average that cost out so that, oh, it's going up, let me raise it here a little bit, that way I'm still competitive with everybody else in the market, and that way I'm not jumping from 299 to 360, right?
" Right. Right. So you're constantly looking at that market and when things kind of spike. Gotcha.
How do, from your experience-- This is fun, yeah. Well, this is information I don't know. How fast does the gas in the truck that comes, how fast does that go? Because you gotta figure that's sitting somewhere already paid for too.
Well, the price is when it gets filled. So if it's filled before four o'clock- That's not what I'm asking, okay, I paid $10 for the tank that's in the ground. Truck comes, he's at $12, but his gas has already been paid for to wherever it originally came from, because he didn't just get that from the Middle East that day. I mean, that came from refinery or something.
Right. The value always fluctuates with the market. So the change of value is determined by market close price at the end of the day, four o'clock. so so what they do is when as a tanker approaches if it's before four o'clock it was the previous day's price this is how what this is what the cost is right okay boom yeah i said the refinery changes daily every day gotcha okay that's what i was curious so then companies like racetrack because i see they have their own tankers right so they probably buy a lot of gallons they probably They have like a hub somewhere, right?
And they put all the gallons of that? No? They still buy from the other? Well, they may be more integrated through the ports.
They may have their own refineries and stuff like that and dictate. That's a realm I have no idea. But I would assume that you can buy gas from specific people or they could be you, whatever. But the value is still a value.
It's determined by market. Yeah. So somebody's getting paid. Of course.
Right? It's like, you know, it's like, I own this phone and it's worth 20 bucks. Oh, tomorrow now it's worth 25 bucks, right? Right.
So my phone. Right. Right? So somebody's making more money.
I mean, most oil companies want the barrels to be, what, 70 to 80 bucks a barrel. They're a hundred dollars right now. Yeah. Yeah.
When it starts to shoot up that way, they don't want that because the volume doesn't move as fast. Right. Oh, I'm sure. Now you start going theory of elasticity and this whole other thing, and then I start sounding smart and I don't want, you know, I don't want, I don't want Skip to think that I'm smart.
Say you saw it on Landman. Yeah. I saw it on Landman. Right.
Say you saw it on Landman. All right. They have done the main event for the UFC White House. It's going to happen.
This is good stuff. You're more familiar with these people than I am. I am. I'm gonna butcher this guy's name.
No, go ahead, butcher. Yes. Pierre? Yes!
Is that not even close? No. How do you say it? Pereira.
Okay, that would work, though. Alex Pereira? I only have the last name. Yeah.
Oh, no, there it is. And who's he fighting? He will attempt to become the first fighter to win UFC titles in three weight divisions. Three divisions.
Yeah. As he faces Cyril Gane. Yeah, that's right. For the interim heavyweight belt.
Cyril Gane. Gane? Yeah. Okay.
Well, that could've gone. I think he's French. G-A-N-A. Could've gone either way.
Could've gone either way. Could've gone either way. It's Ganae. Ganae.
Oh, okay. Got you. The interim heavyweight belt at the White House on June 14th. Yeah.
The event is named the UFC Freedom 250. Yes. That's a big fight. I don't...
You know what, man? I'd like to see Pereira win that. He could beat that guy. As far as, like, Cyril's a good fighter, but, I don't know, he's never, I've never really classified him as one of the greats, one of the champions.
When they pick a better fighter for that event, I mean, it's a big deal. It's a, that division's kind of... Interim heavyweight? Yeah, it's kind of messy.
Like, we're kind of fat this week or something? No, no. In the interim. In the interim.
I had a big dinner, so now I gotta fight this. There's a lot to that. Weird glass. Like, uh, yeah, there's a whole, it's messy.
It's messy. Is either one of these guys, uh, American? USA. Pereira is not.
I'm gonna get two Americans, but it's the 250th celebration of our country. Uh, Justin Gagey is, uh, is that the only fight that you're gonna say? That's the only one that they've announced. They announced the whole card.
Oh, the article only did this one story. Only did the one fight. Yeah, no, they announced the whole card. Oh, man.
Well, let's, you know. Because, I mean, if they're American, I mean, they have to win at the White House. Well, neither one of them are Americans, though, apparently. No, yeah, but then you just kind of go, like, who's their ally?
Like a John Smith or a Robert Bob or something that's fighting? Okay, so first of all, lightweight title belt, Justin Gagey is American. Perfect. And so that's what they're leaning on.
And he's a, he just had a huge fight last month where he was supposed to lose to Patty the Baddie. Like he was, he was, Patty the Baddie. Patty the Baddie? Yeah.
It's not like it said Patty LaBelle. I'm like, what? Patty the Baddie from the, you know, the Mafia Times. They all had nicknames like that.
Patty the Baddie. This is a hell of a card. Yeah. Patty Pimlet.
Pereira's Brazilian and Gane, Gane. Gane is French. The one that I'm looking forward to is Sugar Sean O'Malley's fighting. Oh, who's he fighting?
Sugar Sean O'Malley. Alman Zahabi. Canadian. That's a Canadian.
Oh, they're going to lose by an inch. They're going to lose by an inch. Yeah. What was the name again?
He sounds Middle Eastern. Yeah, it did sound Middle Eastern. Hopefully he's not from Iran. I thought that'd be great to have an American fight an Iranian guy, is the thing.
I gotta be honest, I'm probably butchering his name, too. I told him Khomeini is fighting... In six months, a surgeon's gonna correct you. Surgent Slaughter, for the title.
Michael Chandler's fighting Mauricio Ruffey, and he's from... S. He'll win. All the Americans.
Carrying the flag. Bo Nickel is fighting Kyle Dawkus. What? Bo Nickel.
Oh, I thought that was just one name. That's the easiest name out of them all, Palmer. Both American. Yeah, but I thought it was like the last name, like Bo Winkle.
Oh, they're both American? Yep. Uh-oh. And they look the same in this picture.
There's a struggle here. It looks like they're fighting each other. American leaves country fight. Yeah.
Loser leaves country. And then Diego Lopez is fighting Steve Garcia. Steve Garcia is American. Diego Lopez is from Brazil.
Garcia. Yeah. Well, Diego Lopez, I think, was going to win that fight. Oh, Garcia against Lopez?
Garcia versus Lopez. Okay. America. I guess any name could be American at this point.
How you doing on the new board, Phil? Good, good. Like when we're all talking, I put it on the three. Yeah.
When you guys start conversating together, I put it on the two. That's what I do when it's Palmer initiating the conversation. I put it on him. Okay.
Oh, nice. So you're having fun. See, look, you thought you were going to lose your job. Actually, your job just became more.
Yeah, it's harder, actually. Yeah, he's got more options. More, yeah. More options.
Less for me, more for him. Perfect. All right, Amy Luciana. Oh, that's close.
It's very close. Very close. It ends in an "I" instead of a "I". Oh, she's lucky we didn't have jokes for that.
That's right. She has tearfully accused her husband, Dwight Howard, of cocaine addiction after CPS came in and removed the child. He has a kid? Yeah, it's his kid, not hers.
It's her stepchild. He's a basketball star. He's got, you know, he used to be former basketball star, you know? Didn't he get caught, alleged, with an alleged transvestite or something like that?
Yeah. Oh, is he that one? yeah oh i remember that too didn't you cover that story i'm sure we did it came out i'm sure we did yeah so she had a breakdown in a now viral video we have a viral video by the way do we we have that two million that's got to be viral it's two million we do have a viral in which she claimed that her husband the former nba star see former nba star he has a cocaine addiction furthermore she claimed the cps took her daughter from their home the video has gone viral in no Time Gathering More Than 2 Million Views. She has the same views as us.
Oh, yeah. We're viral. We're viral. We're a big deal.
She gets teary-eyed in the video as she explains how police officers and CPS agents visited their home. She claimed that her marriage has put her and her children in danger. So she had to know he was on cocaine when she married. Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, like he got, I mean, they've only been married, what was it, um, January of last year. Actually, that's how they met. They bonded, they bonded over a bomb king? Yeah, they were bumping rails in the bathroom together.
Hey, you're kind of cute. Oh, I like you too. Yeah. I was just here changing my baby in this baby changing station and now we're bumping rails.
Yeah. You're not gonna believe this. You're not gonna believe this. So, if they hadn't taken the baby, she probably wouldn't care.
Well, uh, I'm willing to bet, Look, same scenario, man. You gotta think these things through. Right, that's what I mean. I mean, you're marrying a guy with a cocaine addiction.
Yeah, he probably said something. You're surprised? " Boop, boop, boop. You're not gonna believe this, right?
Right. Police show up. Boom. You know?
You're done. Yeah, I'm done with you. I'm going to one of the Kardashians. Oh, yeah?
That's it. That's it. You're going to jail. Yeah, you better, look, let this be a lesson to all of you.
Make sure you marry a real one, you know what I mean? One that grabs a shovel and helps you bury the body. I mean, what are we talking about here? Yeah, it's not like she didn't know he did cocaine.
Right. Especially if he has a cocaine addiction. Right, you're not going to believe this. Like, I've noticed what you started doing yesterday.
Yeah, you just started like now. It was white stuff all over the house. I didn't know what was going on. It's from my cataracts.
It's from my cataracts. He rubbed it in his eye instead of his gums. Yeah. I can see.
Talk about an addiction, Jesus. So he loses his kid. Right. Her quote is, I've been with this man for 14 months.
I can't ruin my whole life for something he's doing. 14 months. And they're married. And they're married.
Yes, the marriage is over. She's done. I doubt she's left the $4 million house yet, but the marriage part is over. The marriage is over.
Isn't it kind of crazy how like women know exactly the amount of time, 14 months, like a guy would have said I've been with her for a year. Right. She's like 14 months and two days. Right, two days, three hours and 18 minutes.
17 seconds, 18 seconds, 19 seconds. Now it's been long enough for me to get half his money. Oh, maybe that's why she came out with that. Well, I mean, you don't know that.
No, no, I'm assuming, I mean, all of a sudden now she's complaining. You don't know if there was a prenup or anything like that? No, he was high. Cocaine Addiction Guy?
Probably not. Yeah, Cocaine Guy? Probably not. Yeah.
Did you sign the papers? Yes, I did. Snort that. Oh, yeah.
She signed it. It's good. It's ruining my life. Ruining my life.
I can't ruin my whole life. It's been 14 months. I can't ruin my whole life. I can't ruin my whole life for something he's doing.
Oh, my goodness. He don't share no more. That explains a lot, by the way. Do you remember when Dwight Howard, uh, there was a coach that was talking smack about him?
Wasn't that, uh, uh, um, that was magic, right? Steve? Yeah, Van Gundy. Steve, yeah.
Steve Van Gundy was talking about him, like how it was like he was gonna let him go or whatever, and then he approached in the interview and, like, kind of gave him a side hug? Right. He always does weird stuff like that, man. Who, Dwight?
Dwight, yeah. Oh, apparently he's high all the time. Allegedly. You know, allegedly.
It does, I mean, he always had some wide eyes. Dude, this guy's always in, like, I feel like he resurfaces every, I thought he was on a, I thought he was an analyst now, he's not an analyst? No, no, no, he, he signed a contract over in China. He was playing over in China and then he got in trouble.
Oh, I thought he meant he was an announcer in China. No, no, no, no, no. They have no idea what he's saying. No, most of the NBA guys, they normally, when their careers are completely over in America, they go to China, especially if they were, you know, some type of NBA star.
They get paid. What about the other way around? They only have the one tall guy over there. Yeah, Yao Ming doesn't play basketball anymore.
Well, that's why. He can play so much better over here. Everybody's five feet tall. What about the other way around?
Can you be a college kid that didn't make NBA and you go to China and then hoping that you get picked up? You meant the Chinese players coming to America. Yeah, no, there's a lot of people that go to China to play. Okay, but has that ever happened?
Do we know if that's ever happened? Yeah, college guys that didn't make the NBA, yeah. They go to China and then they get picked up to come into the NBA? Yeah, you saw one on my basketball team, Nick Nick, the big tall black guy.
I'm sorry? Sorry. Remember when you came and watched my adult team? Yeah.
The big tall black guy? Yeah. He played in China. He made it to the NBA?
No, you said if they played in college and didn't make it to the NBA, did they go to China? Okay, but that was like part of what I said. I said they didn't make it to the NBA and then they went to China and then the NBA picked them up after. Oh, yeah, no, there has been people, yep.
Can you name one? The big, tall, black guy that played on his team. Yeah, that guy. No, no.
I think Marcin Gortat was one of those guys. He played on the Magic a while back. He was called the Polish Hammer. He was from Poland.
Oh, I like this guy. But he wasn't good enough to make the NBA in the beginning. Went over and played overseas. It might not have been in China, but one of them.
One of them. You're like a pro-am. Okay. And then he got signed by the Magic like two years after he was in a league like that.
I hope that some of your information is wrong and someone corrects it because you're an idiot and you don't know who you're talking about. Yeah. No, but there has been people. That always makes you happy.
Rafer Alston played for the Magic. He was from AN1. Oh, really? Skip to my Lou, yeah.
Oh, sorry. It doesn't ring a bell at all. What did he say? Skip to my Lou.
His name is Skip to my Lou. I heard they skipped in my loo, but that's a song. No, his name was Ray Fralson. There was no loo in his...
Oh, his name was Lou. They skipped in my loo in my dorm? You idiots don't know what you're talking about when it comes to the NBA. Whatever though, why don't you just ramble words, not even make a coherent sound.
Well, I love the short clips, because the short clips are 30 seconds, and some things are taken completely out of context. Oh, I've noticed that on this last group. And then somebody will sharpshoot it, like, you know, somebody made a comment saying that the host is a complete idiot, And the guest doesn't know what they're talking about, something like that, I'm like, which one's the guest? It's just me and you talking?
I like when he calls me the older gentleman. The older gentleman. The older gentleman starts out with some nonsense. Of course, it's always nonsense.
It's always nonsense. Yeah. Okay. All right, Florida woman, we rarely have a Florida woman story.
Yeah. This young lady was arrested for building a blanket fort in Target's bedding section. That is amazing. And then she refused to leave for nine hours.
Because it's her house now. That's right. This is where I live. Target employees expected a normal Tuesday.
They got a housing crisis in aisle 16. Police say a Florida woman was arrested after allegedly constructing an elaborate blanket fort using 14 display comforters, six decorative pillows, a shower curtain rod in the bedding department, and then she went around and got snacks and water. That's what I'm talking about. And it was described as an emotional staycation, she said.
Witnesses say the structure spanned two shelving units and had a functioning entrance flap made from a waiting blanket. What'd she get arrested for? Uh, all of that? All of that?
It was all display stuff. No, she opened packages. She never passed the registers. She went and got snacks.
She went and got snacks and ate them. Not like she can give those back. I don't know. Dude.
I get it. I understand. But I'm telling you, if she didn't pass the registers, did they close the store? Okay.
If she was asked to leave the premises and she refused. They asked her that? She was there for nine hours. How long is Target open for?
Doesn't matter. She's not like shopping. She's sitting in this blanket fort. I'm just going to say something.
Was she like a job at American Properties? That was epic. That was epic that this lady did this. She can obviously build well.
Yeah. Like, clearly you have a job. She put a lamp inside of it. She got a yoga mat from Sporting Goods.
That's nice. She went and stole a bag of trail mix. She went and stole a bag. Trail mix.
That's the one you go for? I go candy. You know what I mean? Like, I hit the big Reese's rack or something.
Well, they don't have those really at Target except at Halloween and Easter. Yeah. The trail mix, they have that trail mix aisle with all the different trail mix. It's very common.
m. Wow. Amazing. " Do we got any video of this?
I mean... There was a picture of the lady, her mug shot. Oh, man. She looks like she's in her late 20s, early 30s, a pretty blonde lady.
Can you imagine being a target worker? Like sometimes, my brother-in-law worked at Target and he told me a couple stories and there were days where it was like the most miserable day of his life, politicking as far as where people get to stay in positions and stuff like this and how certain employees treated him, how customers treated him, he said there were some days that it was pretty rough, right? So you come in, and this person is just assembling something in your section, and you're just like, oh my god, I don't have the energy for this. Right, I don't want to deal with this today.
Like this, hey. I've got to get the ad merchandise out, I don't have time for this. Hey, can somebody get Carl, because, you know, look, I don't know what's going on here, but we're establishing a home residency here, and this is, apparently it's a safe space. How do we handle this?
I mean, we let them walk out of the self-checkout with the free stuff anyways. Like, is this where we're going? Is this the next step? What's going on here?
m. We finished construction at noon. m. Because nobody wanted to deal with it.
Nobody wanted to deal with it. Yeah, security was over there. Every time they tried to take some down, she zipped it shut and repaired it from the inside. I have more!
And then all of a sudden the mailman shows up with a piece of mail with her name on it. Oh God. Like, do you think that was lack of capacity to handle the situation? I think they didn't know what to do.
Yeah. Like, that's not hard. Hey, listen. Call the cops.
Right. I don't know why they wait until 7:00 PM. Like, ma'am, we're gonna have to ask you to leave the store. No.
Okay. 911. Zip. Hey, I have a mentally unstable person who has established residency in the linen section of Target.
In aisle 16. Maybe they don't have the person that- He's hindering sales. Right. I mean, something.
Like, this is private property. We would like her removed. No one wanted to make that call. She asked people passing by if they could grab her sparkling water from the cooler section.
Can you imagine what the employee meeting is like the next day? Like, okay, guys, so let's get together. Hey, we don't let them build homes in here. Right?
Like, let's not, this is not okay. Okay, so if you see somebody building a house, let's address that right away. Right, now they have to put this on the list of things to say. It's protocol.
" Aw, this poor lady. She was charged with trespassing and theft of consumable goods. The fort was disassembled. The yoga man was turned into sporting goods.
The trail mix was written off. " They added that to the store policy. Oh, my God. Dude, I'm going in next and asking, is the betting for residency here?
I'm just looking for clarity. I hear you guys let us build a fort for like nine hours. I'm just looking for clarity. Can I leave my kids here for a while, man?
Yeah. Somebody watch them. Somebody watch them. They're going to build a little house.
Oh, that was amazing. All right, I have a video. Okay. But you haven't sent it to us yet.
No, no, because... Oh, Palmer's going to send it? I'm going to send it now, because you don't send it beforehand. Then people will pre-watch it.
There is music, but I think the music is safe. I wonder what it could be. I got comments rolling in, guys, by the way. I saw that.
I didn't read it. Just wait until you see the video. Turn the volume down just in case. It's all the way down.
Volume down. Oh, you... dude apparently first of all it's not on anything this is your cap cut edit it says cap cut on it no no disregard that disregard that that's an advertisement yeah apparently our michael there is king of the uh is king of the coaches he won an award apparently was it over the weekend i hate you so much boys winter season 2026 coaching leadership award yes michael stepan Mike Zonkiewicz, thank you for your outstanding leadership of young players, your dedication and time to teaching football, and for setting a wonderful example for the Winter Park Flag Football League. Yeah.
Only a matter of time. Congratulations, Mike. Congratulations. Thank you.
Yeah, that was really nice, man. I didn't expect that. Is that from Preston? That was from Preston.
I didn't see that coming. Did you get him something back? No. You didn't see that coming.
I didn't see it coming. From Preston? No, man. I don't do good things in lieu of hoping that somebody, you know, acknowledges it or something like that.
Well, we didn't say that. We just know that you're going to have your own league someday. I'm not. So you have to have this accolade.
Listen. Right. This is the backbone of his new league. Right.
I was the 2026 lead coach. Whatever it said. Sorry. Yeah.
Join, join here. Join here. Who would like to join the lead coach from the other league? He gave it to me before our playoff game, so it was very nice.
Did you guys win? No. Did he give a speech? Me?
No, did he? He talked to the kids, and we all got together for a picture. Oh, nice. You know your coach coaches five teams.
Do you give lollipops if you lose? Yeah, normally. Like, you know what's funny is I've stopped really giving out the dum-dums on game day because I don't have the time. Because usually a game is rolling into the next game is rolling in the next game.
You've got five teams. So I can't, yeah, I can't stop, uh, so, but, uh, you know, look, man, you just try and help kids, I don't know. And Brittany, give out the dum-dums for you? Oh, okay.
Give Brittany another job? I got this, I have this, I got this six-year-old Tasmanian devil by the name of Teddy, who's usually circling around Brittany at all times. Hey, oh, by the way, if you could just distribute the dum-dums, that'd be great. No, I don't think that I'm gonna ask her that one.
Oh, oh. By the way, I negotiated Brutes for us to get dum-dums after the show, but he apparently doesn't have anything. Oh, that's not, yeah, that's under contract for the following season. Oh.
Yeah. Oh, we're supposed to get lollipops? Yeah, we're getting lollipops after every episode now, if we do a good job. Moving on up, power, moving on up, baby!
Just so you know, you don't get to pick your flavor. You get what you get and you don't get upset. Just don't give me the root beer one. See, don't say that, he'll give you the root beer.
The root beer's the best one. That's the grossest one. We can trade though, he says. You can trade.
You can trade amongst players. Oh, it's like Pokemon. Yeah. Like Pokemon.
Sometimes I'm, but like, dude, some of these kids have been getting slick lately. Like, I'll pick a flavor, or I'll just grab one, and I'll go to hand it to them, and they see what it is, they move their hand back. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not how this works. Timmy wanted that one.
That's not how this works. Or, or they liked the real, the really slick move. It's like, can I get one for my brother? No, he's not a player.
Oh. He's not a player. No, the answer is yes, always. Oh.
I'm like, sure. Now they get to pick which one they want out of the two. Timmy, you don't have a brother. I've had that too.
You're an only child. Can I get one for my dog? For my dog. Oh, nice.
Yeah. So, man, I want them to all have fun. I want them to learn, you know, whatever. If you do good, you get candy.
If you show up, you get candy. It doesn't matter. Eight years, one show a week, for four, for seven years. A lot of lollipops.
What, um, in your new league, are you giving out candy too, or? Reese's. Oh. I'm not, I'm not doing a league.
I will not. I'm, oh. Listen. It's okay.
That's not gonna happen. We'll, we'll still be here for you. Don't keep encouraging that. Somehow we'll get roped into it.
Yeah, just so you know, if that happens, guess who's, guess, guess who's, uh, league manager? Oh, Palmer. Phil. Phil.
Phil the DJ. Phil. Phil. He could DJ every game.
It's going to be funny. Somebody's going to say, hey, my kid's on the wrong team. He's going to say, listen, you need to speak to my wife. I'm not in charge of any of this.
I'm not in charge of any of this. Tia, we got another one on the wrong team. Here's her number. Here's her number.
Here's her number. She's at home today. Give her a buzz. Give her a buzz.
That means she's doing nothing. Oh, man. I don't know. Could you pass it?
Could you pass a background check, Mr. Palmer, to be around the kids? Oh, I could. He's in the CIA.
There was a fight, apparently, at one of the games. One of your games? Not my game. But, I mean, your league.
Yeah. Not your league, but Preston's league. Yeah. Oh.
Yeah, apparently a coach grabbed another player at the end. " Oh, he grabbed somebody else's player? Well, yeah, like, apparently two players are fighting. And again, I don't know.
Right, right. Because here's what happens. There's a fight over there, and guess what? Retainer.
You run right over. I'm staying right here. Like, I want nothing to do with that. Right.
The only thing, the only reason I would go over there is if somebody else that's part of the organization says, "Hey, come with me. " Right? Other than that, I'm not, I don't really care. I'm not getting involved.
Whatever. That's not my thing. That's not my style. So, coach laid hands on a different player and somebody's parent or the other coach?
Yeah, apparently there was a fight between two kids and the coach grabbed the other team's Team's player. And I'm like, that's a rookie move, Matt. Yeah. Right.
You gotta grab your kid, whether your kid is... Winning or not. Well, whether your kid was the instigator or not the instigator, you separate the issue by grabbing your kid and removing them away from the fight. So...
Right. They even do that in the NBA. I don't like it if a coach uses my kid as an example and touches them in an event. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Don't touch. I'm just looking to hit somebody. Don't touch. That's not true.
Don't touch my kids. All right, into cigar news. Great video, Palmer. Great video.
Thank you very much. Slid that and went in on me. Yes. And thank you to my inside associate.
I appreciate all the information. Brittany. I'm not giving any names. You're welcome, Palmer.
She's the one that took that picture. Could have been Preston. No. Oh, it could have been, yeah.
Preston didn't take that picture. Could have been anybody. It was pretty. Lure the Jolly Walleye returns for 2026.
Oh. Lure Cigar begins shipping the 2026 version of the Jolly Walleye. 5x52 Robusto Extra Batola. That seems to be the new size everybody is doing.
6x52? 5x52, a Robusto Extra, a little fat Robusto. Maybe they're looking to try and give more value. Maybe.
While on paper most of the blend is the same, the wrapper for the 2026 version is an Ecuadorian Habano Claroli, something the company says should make for a softer smoking experience. So this cigar is how much, gentlemen? Lure? Lure Cigars.
$11. $13. $15. God.
And we're back to our normal channel. Unbelievable. They made 300 bundles of 10 cigars. In addition to the premium Ecuadorian Claro Habano wrapper adds a slightly softer...
Oh, there you said all this. That was Luz. The Department of the Redundancy Department. Well, that was Lou's quote.
So, apparently, Halfway, I'll put the information in and then put his quote in. Got it. Okay, you excited about Habano Claro? I'll get one in PCA to try.
Okay. Phil? Habano Claro. I mean, I like the last lure cigar that we smoked, so yeah, sure.
Yeah. Ooh, they're distributed by Valakari Cigars. Habano Claro can be difficult. It might be too neutral.
They're too neutral. It depends upon what they did with the fillers. I have that. Do you want to know what the fillers are?
It's gonna, but it's not gonna tell you. I mean, you can. Go ahead. I better hear Condega.
I better hear Omotepe. Where'd it go? If you just tell me Nicaraguan fillers and Dominican, then you're not. Underneath is a binder from Omotepe.
Okay, there's one. Fillers from three regions of Nicaragua: Esteli, Jalapa, and Omotepe. Tepe? Oh, more omotepe.
More omotepe. Might be too much. A lot of omotepe. Okay.
That's all it says about the inside. Okay. Well, it could be good. It could be good.
I just think that usually when you deal with a Habano Claro, it's going to be extremely neutral. White. So the filler and the binder are going to matter more in that blend. All right, the Horny Leprechaun Dusk is shipping.
The horny? Is that what it's called? It was supposed to ship last month. It's shipping now.
Oh, it's shipping now? The second collaboration released between Patina Cigars and Visa Hornies off to stores. This time, the two companies have created Leprechaun Dusk, 5x52, again, Robusto Extra. But not five and a half.
No, it's a half-inch small. But they still consider it a Robusto Extra. And it's a 52, not a 54. Well, the other one was a 52.
Oh, was the other one a 52? I thought it was a 50. Oh, it was, yeah. So your standard Robusto is a 5x50.
Right. Not too many people make a standard Robusto anymore. More often than not, it's a 5x52. A Robusto Extra.
A lot of people consider that just a Robusto at this point. Oh. So, okay, we'll call it a Robusto Extra. I mean, you know what I mean?
Like, this is six and one half dozen of the other. Okay. Go ahead. He uses an Ecuadorian Candela wrapper over a binder and fillers grown by the Oliva Tobacco Company.
Cigars were made at Nicaragua America Cigars SA in Esteli, Nicaragua. Each cigar is, you probably already know. Yeah, but I've kind of forgotten. You want to guess, Phil?
Probably 16. I think they're like 14. 1250. Yeah.
Really? I went again. I'm just kidding. Yeah, well, we have, yeah.
We have five. Just five of them? I think we just have five coming. Here's the problem.
Five single sticks? No, five buttons. Oh, okay. You just ordered five cigars?
Like, here's the problem. I don't know if I ordered five or ten. I don't remember. But, like, Tyler is now doing this by himself as far as wholesale operation, and he's handling his own shipment.
Oh, he's not with the House of Palms or something. No, he's doing it himself. So for me as a retailer, just putting on my retailer hat and nothing else, I don't know what this looks like. So I don't know where I'm going to be at in the rotation.
I don't know how fast he's going to ship from the first one to the last one. So, you know, without me, and I don't, and it's, he's still in his infancy, so I can't take a pre-order either. Right. So you can't buy a lot.
You take it on and you kind of go from there and you assess. I think so far with that move it's been proven the right way to do it because if I said hey I'll take 50 of them and I did the pre-order, these were supposed to drop over a month ago. Right. And it's not like, "Hey, what's going on?
" Like, you probably wouldn't have an answer. Sure. So, he's gonna have to, look, it's just kinda like anything else. I'm not diminishing what he's doing in any fashion.
Sure. But there's a learning curve here, and he's gotta figure all of this stuff out before there's more commitment from other people. If not, what happens is you piss off your consumer and then they look somewhere else for product. It's a small bundle count anyways though, right?
It's like 500 bundles. Yeah, it's a 10 count bundle. 200 bundles of 10 cigars. Oh, 200 bundles.
200 bundles total. So 2,000 sticks. That's not bad. Yeah, I mean, he's navigating his way through, right?
I'm guessing he's wanting to learn all different parts of the industry. We can save some of that info for Patreon. That's a good conversation. Okay.
A bunch of stuff about St. Patrick's Day, why they called it the Leprechaun Daz. Right. Blahdy, blahdy, blahdy, blahdy, blahdy.
Wow, there's a lot of information about the Candela cigars apparently in this story. And then the final story is... Wow, there is a lot of information. Wow.
Wow. I mean, you're the one that put this up. Yeah, well, I like to have the information in case there's questions. Okay.
But apparently you don't have any questions. That's a fair statement. Angel Cuesta Shade Double Robusto ship. So this isn't a Robusto X-ray, it's a Double Robusto.
Double Robusto. What size is this? Let's find out. It's a five and a half by 52 double Robusto.
C. Newman, their second Vitola for this line. The Angel Cuesta Shade Double Rusto is a five and a half by 56. Okay.
So, because it's bigger in gauge, it's a... It's a double. It's not a Robusto Gordo. Not a Robusto Extra.
Not a Robusto Extra. It's a Robusto... I don't even know what we called it. Short Toro?
If it was a double Robusto, shouldn't it be a 5 by 100? If it's a true double, yes. It's a true double? But as you know, in this industry, you can call anything a one.
Would it be 10 by 100 if it was a true double? 10 inches long? Well, it's 5 1⁄2, so it would be 11. But it's your standard Robusto is five.
Oh, gotcha. So then yes. I'm confused on this. I think the industry's confused on this.
Yeah, is what makes the name Robusto or Toro the length? Length and gauge. Yeah, I thought it was mostly gauge because you can have difference in length. No, it's supposed to be both.
Because that sounds like a short Toro. Here's the reality. We are the candy makers and we can do whatever we want. Basically that's what it is.
They could call it a Boop-Boop-Badou if they wanted to. I'd like to make a Lancero-sized cigar and call it a Toro. Right. It's a 7x46 Toro.
That would be bad, though, for retailers. " It would be confusing. I have shops that will go like, we're a Robusto shop. We sell a lot of Robustos.
Oh, well, here's one. Right. But it's a 6x52, but we call it a Robusto. It's a Robusto.
It's a double Robusto, double your value. It says Robusto. All right. They're not saying what's in it, but it has a Shane Grove wrapper.
All right. Very exciting. That's it, huh? That's it.
Three different cigars. So in case anybody's keeping track, three different cigars. Two different cigars, three very similar sizes, three completely different names. Exactly.
Alright, what do they charge for this shade Double Robusto? Doble. Angel Cuesta? D-O-B-L-A is Doble though, right?
Or is that double? That's not double, is it? D-O-B. D-O-B-L-E?
Doble. Doble. Doble Robusto. The Doble.
Which is double in Spanish, right? Sure. What are they charging? C.
Newman cigar. What are they charging? 12 bucks. I think you're high.
I'll go 11. 21. Whoa! It's a very good cigar.
American dollars? American cigar, we're not telling you what's in it. Duble in price. Duble in price.
It's duble in price. Well, you're getting twice the cigar. Yeah, yeah, sure. 5 by 54.
Right. Or 56, whatever. All right, now it's time for the industry's favorite game: What's the Score? So many buttons.
Yeah, there's a lot. I didn't know how to do that one. Oh, that should have been the three. No, I did.
At the end, I did the three. Nice. All right. All right, we have a special cigar for today, gentlemen.
Tell me. We're mixing it up a little bit. Okay. It's the second one, not the first one.
Oh, okay. So what's the first one? March 8th, 2026, Patrick LaGreed's Nartoro Fuente, Frente Cigar is the new Sangre de Toro, Undefeated. Oh, they finally reviewed this one, huh?
Don Carlos, Sangre de Toro, Undefeated. Uh, I'll go first. Eighty, hmm, eighty-eight, eighty-eight. Hmm.
I smoked this cigar. Don Carlos? So it's a Fuente cigar. Yeah, it's got to be high in the 80s.
It's a Fuente. Why wouldn't it go 90? It could. I'll go 90.
All right, so Toro Fuente, Don Carlos, Sangre de Toro, Undefeated. It is from the Dominican Republic. Tabacalera, a Fuente, is the factory. Rapper, Mexico, San Andres.
Binder, Dominican Republic, filler, Dominican Republic. 5 x 46. 60, they smoked, 3. 89.
It's a good size. It's very good. Let's take 90. Clue number one, the cigar delivers an engaging and layered flavor profile that involves nicely throughout the smoking experience.
Early notes of wood and creaminess build into a more dynamic combination of pepper, wood, and subtle sweetness, while the retrohale introduces additional complexity with dry creaminess and a faint, chalky texture. That Patrick is so sweet. No nibs. That's Brooks.
There's still no nibs. 89. There's a lot of chalk. -Chucky.
-Uh-oh. -Oh, you're revving. -Mindy. -He's looking it up.
-Blue number two. Construction and overall performance are strong across all samples, with the cigars burning well and maintaining solid structure from start to finish. Despite slight differences in a draw between the samples, airflow remains within an acceptable range and never becomes problematic. 89.
90. Here it comes. The final third shows a slight drop in refinement as the profile becomes sharper and hotter toward the finish. A heavier presence of black pepper begins to dominate the profile and the finish develops a chalky quality that slightly disrupts the balance established earlier in the cigar.
Not too bad. 88. I'm going to stay at 90. Final thought: Full disclosure: I didn't know that the Otoro Fuente, Don Carlos, Sangre de Toro, undefeated users of the Mexican San Andreas Rapper when I smoked them.
So I truly wasn't looking for any kind of profile or judging how well the cigar showed off the notes and flavors. The cigar certainly has one of the richest profiles I can recall from a Fuente made cigar, so there's that. Still, I like where the profile sits, both as an option for a Fuente made cigar, and on a broader basis, I'm certainly intrigued to try more sizes of this blend. As I have a feeling that there will be one that shows a really balanced, complex profile that delivers the San Andreas profile, So I really like and then a compliment of supporting flavors that make this a really impressive cigar.
You really liked it. Yeah. What's up with it, what's up with it? What's up with it?
What's up with it? What's up with it? What's up with it? What's up with it?
What's up with it? What's up with it? I think... Sir, we need an answer.
90. Now what? 89 you went the wrong way oh it's a 91 it's a 92 92 holy moly off of it not being as good as he thought it should be he didn't know what it was yeah so he still liked it i thought yeah but he He said if you smoked another one, maybe it's more well-balanced complexity or whatever. I thought putting it in a 91 was going to be tough.
Yeah. I like that I pushed you off your number, though. And you still had a chance to win. You blew it.
I thought it was going to be high 80s. Not the way he was talking about it on the final thought. We always do two good, one bad. Even the bad thing he said wasn't that bad.
Okay, this cigar's from December, December, December, December? It's from December 3rd, 2010, Steve Val, who was that? Reviewed it, is that the Daltona guy? Nope, no, that's Brian, that's Brian, this is, um, limited edition Nicaragua Reviews, the 601, sounded rough right there, edicion limitada, 2010, Macho.
The 601 2010 Macho. 601 Edicion Limitada 2010 Macho. Boots? That's an Espinosa cigar?
This sounds like it could be old enough where it was, it could be Espinosa and Ortega together, and they were original partners. I don't know. Yeah, it's not listed, there's no mention of Espinosa on it at all. I'll go 85, I don't know anything about this cigar.
Maybe it is just Espinosa. 89. All right, it's a 601 Edition Limitada, Macho, it is from Nicaragua, Factory, My Father's Cigars. Okay.
Wrapper, Nicaraguan Habano. Binder, Nicaraguan. Filler, Nicaraguan. It's a 6x52 True Toro.
And back in 2010 it was $8. They made 364 boxes of 10 cigars. Wow. They smoked three of these.
I gotta know more about this story. There's obviously something I don't know here. 601, my father. I'm going to stay 89.
Yeah, I'm going to go up to 87. Clue number one, the cigar stands out immediately with its attractive presentation and excellent construction. The Habano wrapper showing a lighter Colorado shade has a smooth texture with only a few minor veins and a clean appearance. Doesn't help, 89.
87. Clue number two: Flavor development throughout the cigar is rich and dynamic, creating a highly enjoyable and complex smoking experience. The first third opens with a lively pepper kick balanced by sweet, mellow cedar notes, while the second third expands dramatically with layers of aged cedar, chocolate, honey sweetness, creamy smoke, and hints of vanilla. Oh boy.
This combination produces a velvety texture and a long, lingering finish that adds depth and sophistication to the profile. 90. Hmm. Hmm.
Hmm. 88. Glue number three. Glue number three.
While the cigar delivers excellent flavor complexity, the profile can become slightly heavy at times, particularly in the final third, Where a deep, espresso-like coffee note with a slightly burnt character takes center stage. Although it never becomes bitter, the darker intensity may overshadow some of the earlier sweetness and subtle flavors that made the first half of the cigar so balanced. Hmm. Eighty-nine.
Eighty-eight. Final Thought: I was extremely impressed with this cigar, it's a medium full body cigar with a medium strength, but it has loads of flavor, not just regular flavors, but it has a mellow aged character to it that is just amazing. I am very protective of Cuban cigars in that I don't find too many non-Cubans that remind me of them, but I can honestly say this cigar had some of the same flavor profiles as Cuban Tobago. It was very mellow, rich and creamy, and had a nice pepper the whole way.
I will be getting more of these for sure. What do you think happened to Steve? I have no idea who he is. We're going to have to ask.
Where did Steve go? Charles didn't go. I had to kill him. He had to go.
Mmm. Ninety... Ninety-two. Ninety-one.
What did you say? Ninety-two. Ninety-two! Oh!
Oh, man. Bam! I'm funny. So close, Phil.
You went the wrong way. Well, he couldn't have went any way. Either way was the wrong way. Okay.
Where are we going to be? What are we going to do? What are we doing? I am on Chai Town Cigars.
See, this will go up tomorrow. Tonight. Very nice. 7:30 Central Standard Time.
They sent me the questions today. Oh, you got ahead of them? They sent them to tell me, I don't know. Did you look at them at all?
Sure, I did. Well, tell me one of them. I don't know. I want to know one of them.
You have to watch the show. Make sure you look at them. You don't have to answer. How did you get in the cigar business?
Oh, I need a better, there's got to be better ones than that. Come on. All right, we got to chide down. We got to, we got to fix you.
We're going to do better. Don't worry, I will handle it. I will handle it. Let them know that I'm sorry I couldn't be on tonight.
I will let them know, Phil. Thank you. You have a buffet, another buffet? The cash party from Phil and the Seaman, a nautical avenger.
He's got a campaign at a waffle home. He's got to go to a waffle home. He's got a gubernatorial rally to go to. Okay.
Where are you going to be? Me? Yep. This week?
No. Where's the next place you're going to be? Uh, my house? It's quiet there.
Bow Weevil and Humidor Fine Cigars in Dothan, Alabama. Ah, yes. 26 and 27. We will be in Alabama.
Well, you should have said that. Are you going to be in an event? Oh, yeah. You just asked me where I was going to be, but I knew right away.
Season professional. You don't have a handler. See, you're my handler. Oh.
Right? so you want to know where he's gonna be right you have to ask where you gonna be you have to ask my wife or my work wife which is you you have any dj things you want to plug i have a wedding coming up saturday yes oh yeah are we all going no no no are we all invited anybody i mean you guys can you guys are more welcome to show up chet's getting married no it's not no i'm djing an event i mean i know chet's engaged did he ever get married He has not been married yet. He has planned, I think, for later this year. Oh, very nice.
Okay. Well, hey, like and subscribe. We're reviewing or listening to our show. And thanks so much for watching.
This has been episode 483. We gotta go. Bye. Bye.
No edge of entertainment, huh?
Show Notes
On today’s Show Our favorite Governor Candidate Mr Fishback is in the news again, We have the Card For The Whitehouse MMA Fight. Dwight Howard likes the nose Candy! And a Florida Woman Story! Then In cigar news we have some shipping notifications and a new cigar! The Show ends with a What’s The Score full game to see if Phil learned anything with the Seaman!