ACHP Episode 493 Florida Chaos & Global Perks - Then Rosales Rolls In
Transcript
Welcome to a Cigar House for
podcast episode 493.
I'm Mike Palmer.
I'm not back at being the host
head engineer again.
I don't know what I'm doing
those days.
See, today on the show, we have
Michael Stefankevich as being
the the host.
He's Derek.
I had a funny thing about
Preston and everything.
Oh.
Yeah, that's only on Tuesdays.
You.
Said yeah, but you're excited
he's coming back after being
gone.
Oh, OK.
And then with us today.
Look at it.
That's Mr. Michael Rosales.
Do the hand trick again.
Michael, you're blurry.
Why does he continue to be
blurry?
I don't know.
There he is.
Oh, it's like we.
Man, the myth, the legend.
That's right.
Look at that.
Look at our phrase.
I'm I'm sad he took the jacket
off though.
I had a jacket joke.
Hey, you don't have to talk.
It's cool.
You don't have to say anything.
You.
Just I was just here letting you
guys do your intro.
Hello everybody.
Right in today's show we got a
Florida man makes an appearance.
Not to be outdone, Florida woman
also makes an appearance.
Then African women all over the
country get an extra 2 days off
a month.
And then in cigars, we've got
some new cigars.
We have some PCA news.
But before we get started,
Michael, how do you get a hold
of some of that chapter pod
swag?
Do you notice that I'm wearing
my new BDP shirt?
Oh, I thought that was the
Magumer.
No, this is not the Mr. Magumer
yet.
Mr. Magumer should be arriving
on Wednesday and then I'll ship
them out.
But this is the BDPIII.
Have another one now for you.
Oh, you made a freshman?
Yeah.
Excellent.
I'm tired of you doing it.
Looks a little high.
I was very busy today.
Oh, you made it today.
Oh yeah, I was very rushed so.
But if you like this shirt or
you like any of our other swag,
go to chapterpod.com where you
can buy one, get the 2nd 140%
off, spend $100 or more.
You're going to get free
shipping on your order.
Now, I do have some comments
from yesterday's show, just a
couple.
One of them would be better if
Boots was here, but that's OK.
Phil Phil, if Phil was here.
I hate that.
Like I commented and then it
disappeared and come again.
I got to view all and I say most
relevant newest responded.
Boom.
OK, Data cache 2004 said This
whole show was surreal.
Which show?
The last one.
The one with The Sweeney.
Yes, with Mr. Sweeney.
I wonder why I was so surreal.
Well, that's why I was asking.
I thought maybe it was Oliver
kid, he was so well dressed.
Yeah, and T money says to be
fair, I roasted Mikey twice last
week and he read it.
Also looks like you have a new
theme filet of Phil Fridays.
Poor dude got slayed today.
He most certainly did.
And then the cigar guys wrote on
the previous episode, Preston
could not afford the cigar guys,
which I don't believe that to be
accurate.
And then John Yogurlight said
Oliver is the best dressed man
in the industry.
I don't know if that's true.
I.
Don't know if he's the best but
he was a little overdressed for
our show though.
What?
Do you think I don't know her
class is up there?
Yeah, her class is probably the
best dressed.
He's up there, Yeah.
Especially when he was in
Manhattan all the time.
Yeah, Oliver's like maybe top
five, but he's not #1.
I mean, and then you, you know,
you go to the European shows
when those guys are like Gucci
Doubt.
Yeah.
Yeah, I got 3 pieces with the.
Dude, it's it's, it's it's, I
don't know about the hats, but
they are definitely.
On the ribs, yeah.
But no, he's up there.
Oliver's up there for sure.
OK, if you want to hear your
comment on the show, comment on
this show below and if it's
funny I may read it off so check
it out and also shout out to my
boy.
Let's see.
I don't want to screw this up.
We had an order, Michael.
Online.
Yes, Steve, we'll get it
upstairs.
It's my boy Rick.
Rick Knight.
Mr. Rick, Mr. VOTL, thank you
very much for your support.
And what else am I forgetting?
Oh wait, he had a comment.
You're not going to read it.
No, he didn't.
He placed an order for on the
for the Oh yes, if you're a
retailer, you're going to the
show and you're wondering what
product do I need to bring into
the store?
We got #2 we got the second best
cigar in the industry.
I mean, you got to throw that on
the shelves.
You have to have that on the
shelves you have.
To.
I don't know how you don't.
No brainer.
Yeah.
So if you want to help your
customers and hit the calendar
link below, book an appointment,
we're going to give you a free
hat for your time.
If you're a retailer that
already does business with us
and you want to say, hey, what's
going on?
What's what's going on in the
pipeline for the rest of the
year?
We want to have that meeting
with you.
So again, click the calendar
link below and we will set an
appointment with you and also
get you a free hat.
Eric Espinoza also wants a hat.
So we'll have to, I guess we'll
have to bring him a hat, Mr.
Palmer.
Yes.
Look, if you're a customer and
you go into your retail store
all the time and you're just
tired of them not having
postagna and you're like, hey,
listen, I don't want to buy
postagna online.
I want to buy postagna from you.
Show them this YouTube episode.
Have them click the Cali link
below.
Set the appointment at where we
will meet them at PCA and
they're going to get a hat.
Maybe you can work the hat off.
Hey, you got to take this
appointment and I want the hat,
you know.
That's a nice parlay, right?
Yeah, like that's, yeah, that's
the way.
Now, if you're a media guy and
you want to book an appointment
with us, do an interview, talk
about how we got in the
industry, you want to talk to
Palmer?
You want to see how you know,
all of his struggles throughout
the past decade of being in
retail and wholesale and just
being a major success that he
is.
Hit the calendly link below for
Postagna Media interview and you
can get an interview with one of
us.
That's good, yeah.
That's good.
That's that's it.
I mean, they're filling up fast.
They are filling.
They are.
Filling first.
We had two more today.
Yeah, we're moving along here.
I think that we have more
appointments already this year
than we did last year.
That was fantastic.
Knocking on 40 at the moment.
Yeah, I was trying to not give a
number but.
I said, knocking on.
Not exactly.
How do you guys handle the the
your time allotments for all the
media?
Do you book?
The well, they're 15 to 30
minute intervals, 15 minute
intervals.
You don't.
You don't do them like at a
certain time of day or like
where it's blocked out for.
No, by design.
Like Palmer would be handling
all for the majority of the
retail orders and I would handle
the majority of the media stuff.
Sometimes we would flip that
role depending upon how it looks
at the time.
But no, I mean like it's kind of
a divide and conquer per SE.
Like Skip should be handling the
interviews.
He does most of the time.
So then you know there should be
no a lot of time.
He should be there early in the
morning when the sun comes up.
When the sun comes up, he should
be arriving.
That's still not in bed.
Yet now to be fair, I think he
arrived relatively early
majority of PCA last year.
Yeah, I.
Think it might have been one day
he fell off.
Typically there's, there's
usually 1, you know, but I mean
he's, he will tell you I get
there when I get there, you know
what I mean?
So that's that's how that works.
I get it.
You know, there's only, you know
how many, There's so many of
these that go on every year
where you get to see all the
retailers in one place.
Like, yeah, you want to get
there when you get there.
I respect it.
No, you know, I mean for the the
most, I mean, I get it from the
media perspective, it's a
difficult thing to kind of cover
because they know people are
conducting business and and you
know, you got to set up
whatever, you know, your
equipment.
But so I said no, some people
like block time.
So like between this time and
this time, this is what we do
kind of for each one of the
days.
It's kind of weird.
I mean it seems like the show
keeps getting like less days and
it starts to shrink I think what
What is 2 1/2 days?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, look by design,
it's it's already tremendously
flawed.
Yeah.
So the, the no matter what,
whether it's the half day or
it's the the last day, the last
day is always going to be dead,
especially when it starts on a,
when what is it a Saturday,
Saturday, Sunday, Monday?
Like there's, there's no
opportunity for a retailer to
kind of go in and enjoy the
weekend with friends or family
or whatever, just their spouse.
So when it comes to Sunday,
they're out.
I'm going to be back to work on
Monday.
I already did all my ordering.
So the last day is still going
to be terrible.
I almost feel like it needs to
be done in a different fashion,
maybe like Wednesday, Thursday,
Friday, right?
Because at that point, now you
can stay the weekend and, and do
the sightseeing, do all of those
things.
So you're going to be there for
the full 3 days.
I mean, that's just my thought,
but what do I know?
I mean, no, it's it's I, I, you
know, it's, it's interesting if
you think of the smaller shops
getting coverage right and
already having to fly out or
drive over, you know, and then,
you know, there's there's this,
it's difficult to get coverage
and then making sure that that,
you know, are you going to spend
enough to make to offset the,
you know, all the, you know,
expenses.
And so at least for the smaller
shops, right, yeah, that don't
have a a big enough staff.
So so being gone 5 seven days is
is pretty difficult.
Well, I'm talking about being
gone 5 right.
If you wanted to make a vacation
out of it.
You know, I don't know, like we
hardly knew this guy.
We hand threw him the keys.
He ran the shop 1 for one.
You're right, Palmer.
It's.
When you guys went to Nicaragua
that first time?
Yeah, so you know what I mean,
like.
It's almost the same thing.
Almost.
That's even longer, yeah.
And out of the country, harder
to get a hold of.
Yeah.
So I don't know, man.
I just feel like if, if you want
to do it, if you want to grow
your business as a retailer, you
find a way.
No, absolutely.
I think, you know, one of the
things that that people don't
really account for because I
mean, even if you have a smaller
budget and you can't go in and
buy a lot of product, but you
want to buy a little bit from
everybody, from everyone that
you do business with.
You know, I think there's this
the engagement like you always
come back kind of invigorated
from the experience of seeing,
you know, friends and Co workers
or not really Co workers, but
people within the industry,
right.
And and to get to, you know.
That's fine, that's fine.
My God.
Keep going, keep going.
So anyway, so that that's, you
know, so when you come back, you
know, it's, it's one of these
things like where, you know, I
mean the, the seasons long, you
know, we just came out of a a
pretty difficult winter time as
far as, you know, especially up
in the Northeast.
It was brutal.
So, you know, to get in and, and
spend some time with some people
and like I said, get recharged
and get to see some of the new
products coming out this year.
It it, it's, you can't put a
dollar amount on that, you know
what I mean?
And so if you don't, because it,
it, it's not technically like a,
like in other industries, like
you have a, you know, a
technology show or a car show.
It's not really sales oriented.
It's just like all the new
products that are coming out
where we kind of merge new
product and sales, you know, in
this short amount of time,
right?
So, and it's not like a sales
conference where you're going to
go out and, and you know, get,
you know, they, they're trying
to incorporate more and more of
that, you know, but I don't know
if that's, you know, the turn
out necessarily is, is great for
all the the classes they put on.
So, but you know that I I, I
don't like the anticipation of
the show, but when I get there,
I really have a good time.
Yeah, it's just the other way
around for me, you know, like I
usually like, OK, cool, this is
awesome.
Like feeling the pressure, like
things are rolling, rolling.
Then you usually get, you know,
kicked in the Dick.
Come day 2, it's like, all
right, yeah.
So I don't know, maybe this
year's going to be different,
so.
I think so.
I mean your, your appointments
are stacked.
Yeah, you're ready to go.
Things are trending in the right
direction.
Consumers are wanting the number
2 cigar of the yearly shows and
want us, Yeah.
But it's a very humbling
experience either way.
It is.
OK, Michael, get us the trending
news that was your phone.
That was OK.
Hold on.
I'm trying fairy wish bun to
head.
All right, Florida Man is
officially unlocked a new level.
Police say a caped crusader with
0 superpowers was arrested after
allegedly attempting to ride an
alligator through a fast food
restaurant while wearing a Cape
when is described as
aggressively not helping.
OK, So what happened, Florida
Man?
Yeah.
Decided he needed the new arch
OK, so he puts on his Cape all
right, loads up his alligator, a
real alligator OK, and then
rides it to the drive through
and orders his arch and then
pulls up to the window riding
his alligator.
You can ride an alligator.
Sure.
I don't know, you could ride an
alligator.
You've never been to Gatorland?
No, they let you ride alligators
there.
They don't let you ride it but
they the guy sits on the back.
Oh OK.
I imagine it's a well trained
alligator.
Did he get arrested or anything?
Let's see, according to
authorities, the man strutted up
to the drive thru A Stride's
Gator like it was a loyal
sidekick, Apparently believing
the laws of nature, common sense
and customer safety do not
apply.
Employees reportedly frozen
horrors.
The reptilian rideshare rolled
up with order window.
Let's see, Miami-Dade police
swooped in and ended the swamp
powered joyride.
The alligator was removed and
handed over to animal control,
while the would be superhero was
arrested and stripped of his
Cape.
Would you ever ride an
alligator?
Womp, womp.
I don't think so.
No, no.
What's the price?
I don't know, $1,000,000.
I mean, if the if the the the
tail was kind of restrained and
and.
I think it's the other end you
need to worry about.
That was was.
On the mouth.
I might get on it.
No tape on the mouth.
What's the line?
Oh dude, that's come on.
I don't know what are you
talking about here.
A million I.
Mean 1,000,000 bucks Was it
like.
Will they do that?
Is it supposed to be like a 5
foot alligator like I?
Don't know.
I mean, was it a big alligator?
They don't say the actual size
of the alligator, but you
figure.
It's great.
What's funny is like.
Big enough for the man to ride.
When people get slapped in the
face whenever they're trying to
wrangle those things, that
that's awesome because that, I
mean, dude, that's, that's a lot
of force.
Whack.
Yeah, a lot of muscle in that
tail.
Oh yeah, I'd be more concerned
with the front end.
I I if you're behind it.
Well, he's riding it, so he's
sitting somewhere between the
head and the tail, no?
I guess so.
So do you have a picture of this
thing?
Not with me, no.
I mean, it has to.
Be I'll e-mail you one later.
It's got a pretty a pretty
special individual.
Think you know what I'm going to
put on my Cape?
Yeah, the Cape is the selling
point for me.
And I'm going to ride my Gator.
Did it?
Did it have the rest of the
outfit or it was just a Cape?
Just a Cape.
Just a Cape.
It's a Cape.
I assume he had some sort of
pants on because they don't
mention he was naked except for
the Cape.
But he was wearing a homemade
Cape, which makes me think more
like a big towel.
Nice.
Or a sheet maybe?
Phil, I know that you just
arrived.
He has to go in 10 minutes.
So I want to get him, get him
on.
So you, we're going to get you
back, we're going to get you in
the sport.
We're going to get you back in
the show, don't worry.
Yeah, I will give up your.
Seat you can.
Thanks.
Yeah, yeah.
We're all going to rotate to the
left.
He's got to catch a flight with
this.
This is going to be entertaining
for me because he's got to catch
a flight.
Right now it's 1236.
He's going to leave here in 9
minutes. 1245 he's going to
drive 2 hours and 20 minutes to
Tampa and your flight is at what
time?
It leaves at 5.
It starts to board around 4:15.
All right, so you're going to
arrive at three.
Yeah.
And you think that you're going
to have no TSA Pre-check issues
whatsoever?
Do you know who you're talking
to?
I know exactly what I'm talking
to the Michael Rosales.
I'm telling you like those
things don't apply to me.
Japanese denim jacket.
Jack Rosales.
That's all I'm talking.
About selling out.
I want to know.
I want to know how it plays out.
The Orlando Pre-check was
running pretty quick yesterday
when my in laws left.
So here's what's going to
happen.
I'm going to walk straight to
the front of the line.
So here's what's going.
To happen, I'm telling you
what's.
Do you know who I am?
Here's.
What's going to happen?
Passing out cigars as he goes.
We're going to call you
tomorrow, all right, and we're
going to get an update on the
show as to how it went to say
pre-check easy.
OK, wait.
If he's going to be delayed,
can't we call him this
afternoon?
Well, I need it on the show.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Can't we just during the show?
No, I can't just call him.
I want him on the show.
Do you have more than one
Rosales in your phone?
We need to check that because
Sweeney apparently was a problem
last.
Week I only have the one you.
Would think Sweeney wouldn't be
a problem.
Rosales is in my favorites *.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, he's in my favorites list,
so.
You know it goes Preston
Rosales.
No, his wife.
No, Preston's not on there.
Preston's not on your.
Does he know this?
No.
You better fix that for
tomorrow.
I'll I'll tell you, I have my
woogie, my family members, my
family members, then you Palmer,
then then Steve and then Rosales
that that's where he categories.
Important.
What's that?
Yeah, I mean that's.
Not that's not a bad place to
because even that I'm not a
local guy.
Yeah, it's just a question like,
yeah, exactly.
I mean, you need them more than
than, right?
Well, depends on how you look at
the list.
You could be first because
you're going to see your name at
the bottom with nobody under.
It No, he's not at the very
bottom, do you?
Know how many do you know how
many mics and mics will he has
to like scroll through to get to
see anyone name so right they
could all be yeah.
They could all be the same way
they.
Have an emoji?
That's the.
Real question, I see no then.
He's family.
Yeah, yeah, everybody.
The only person on my actually,
oddly enough, there is one
person on my favorites list who
just is an emoji.
And the reason why he's on my
favorites list is I can never
find him.
It's the mailbox.
It's Mike the mailman.
Oh, Mike the mailman, yeah.
Is he still coming around?
Yeah, he popped in last week.
OK, All right, here is was the
next story there.
Mr. Michael, before we break
something else.
Florida woman will not be
undone.
A Florida woman was arrested
after trying to pay for gas with
a live iguana and a bag of
seashells.
OK.
Orange County, That's in Orange
County.
When you think Florida has
officially run out of surprises,
it finds loose change in its
pocket and keeps going.
Police say a Florida woman was
arrested after allegedly
attempting to pay for gasoline
using a live iguana and a bag of
seashells.
Maybe she was trying to convince
me it was a small alligator.
Did she steal anything?
I don't understand.
But the gas, she put gas in her
car, went inside to pay for the
gas goes here's my lizard and a
box or in a bag of these
seashells I collected at the
beach.
What gas station are you going
to, whether you can just fill up
at this point?
Have you had that experience?
I've, I haven't had an
experience like that ever.
And they just turn on pump #7.
That's right.
You have to go in.
I'm trying to think, yeah, you
have to go inside, don't you?
Yeah, so how does that work?
That sounds like complete BS to
me.
It's been a while back in the
days of the old Sinclair things
like where you flicked the thing
and go, Yeah, I haven't seen.
One of those the thing, yeah,
they don't have those anymore.
They haven't seen the little arm
that goes across.
Yeah, yeah.
According authorities, a woman
pulled up to a local gas
station, exited her vehicle and
reportedly offered the Oh, she
went.
She went to offer the reptile
and shells first.
OK.
Employees quickly realized this
was not a pirate theme,
promotion or a coastal barter
experiment.
Witnesses say the iguana
appeared unimpressed by the
situation where the cashier was
left trying to determine whether
this was performance Art Adair
or peak Florida behavior.
Yeah.
Or is it like a YouTube short
or?
Something right Law enforcement
arrived, took the woman into
custody.
The iguana was safely recovered
and did not receive any store
credit, loyalty points or
unleaded fuel.
Yeah.
So how was she taken into
custody?
Police later confirmed that
while gas prices are high,
wildlife and beach souvenirs are
still not accepted forms of
payment, even in Florida.
Yeah, I get that.
I just don't understand how.
Right, I was reading further to
find out what law she broke.
I don't know.
Unless she did somehow get the
gas and then went inside.
No, it sounds like maybe she was
detained briefly.
Probably she was put into
custody.
Which was there's a lot of jokey
jokes.
She wasn't charged for anything.
Both of these things happened in
Florida.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
We like to say all the Florida
things so people don't come
here.
What's going on with the
reptilian theme?
Like what's like?
Well, the iguanas, it's.
Iguana and the you know the
alligator before.
Right.
Yeah, Well, we're, it's what we
like to do.
We like to really paint a
picture.
I got you of that.
It's like Jurassic Park down
here and crystal meth.
OK, right.
So those two things have merged
and that is Florida.
America.
Both of them are prolifically
available everywhere.
Yeah.
And you don't?
Yeah.
You don't want to come here.
You don't want to come here.
If you go down South and it gets
cold, they actually rain from
the sky.
Yeah, I've seen this, which is.
Amazing.
She might have picked up a
handful of them and go.
I can buy gas later.
Yeah, I have a couple of
seashells.
I'm good to go.
So, yeah, OK, even though
Orlando was the number one
vacation spot in the US this
this year, I mean, I could see
it.
It was, you know, it was pretty
wild the past week as far as
traffic, like traffic is always
horrendous.
It was extra horrendous last
week.
I'm surprised you didn't cover
the the spring break and all the
kids out there with their guns.
The shooting or whatever the
shooting.
Well, not even that, but this
there was another video of these
kids that were just walking
around with like their hands on
their guns, like.
Oh, we covered some of that
spring break last week during
spring break.
During spring break, yeah,
Spring break is.
Over it's it's an everyday.
Podcast This is five days a
week.
Sometimes it's hard to find
stories.
Yeah, we're very trendy.
I gotcha, OK.
They say the reason there's so
many Florida Man stories because
of our sunshine laws where that
type of information is readily
available compared to other
states.
Yeah, where the media suppresses
all that stuff.
Right, you can say you can do
anything you want here and then
everybody knows.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, Well, let's hit him
with one more before we sent him
on his merry way.
Oh, he'll like this one.
Turning to our international
news desk, Nairobi, Kenya, it
started with a casual lunch
conversation between a county
governor and his cabinet
ministers about a colleague's
menstrual pain.
The discussion led to the first
in Kenya, the right for female
employees to take menstrual
leave.
The new policy took effect in
December 2025.
It grants county government
employees in the capital of
Nairobi 2 days off every month
to deal with the pain and
discomfort of menstruation.
Wow.
While the aim of improving
productivity and well-being with
the aim of improving somebody.
Just didn't want to deal with
somebody's bullshit is what it
was.
Or they're like, you know what?
You can take your fucking bad
attitude, Yeah.
That's exactly what I'm saying,
Like, oh, you're being very
crummy today.
Governor Johnson Sakaja told The
Associated Press that Kenya's
national government has
expressed interest in how it
goes, and other county
governments have as well, so if
it goes well in Nairobi, it
might spread throughout the
country.
So it's pay with leave.
Yes, two days paid leave with
menstruation.
Every month.
Every month I guess I just hope
they don't all sink so that the
18,000 female employees are all
off on the same day.
All mimosas, everybody's off,
you know what I mean?
Starts with dignifying your own
staff for them to feel they are
respected and dignified.
Like, why does the government
have to do that?
Why can't you just If you want
to do it as a corporation, you
do it.
Well, this is a government
office is the only place that's
done it not.
Oh, it's done in the government.
Office in the government office,
yes.
Got it.
Yes.
So the government said all
18,000 female employees get 2
days off a month because your
uterus lining sheds.
Because we don't want to deal
with it.
We don't want to deal with your
moodiness.
What about flare ups?
Can we work that one out too,
you know?
Unusual cramping off cycle.
No, I'm talking about the other
like other stuff.
Yeah, like some type of STD.
Apparently the the self-imposed
illnesses are your own.
Problem I want to we should
protect STD's as well.
This is well.
I mean you got a break out from.
What you hear about Africa, if
you do that, that might, you
know.
Wow.
No, it's it's common knowledge.
It's common knowledge.
They have more AIDS in STDs in
Africa than any other country.
Do they?
Yes, but it's because of the
mosquitoes.
Are you sure?
Google it.
I'm no, I'm going to rock it.
Whichever, it's because of the
mosquitoes.
They transfer the aids between
the.
Country has the most aids.
There you go.
Breakouts.
Is it really a breakout anymore?
I mean, I guess not.
Yeah.
AIDS cases, OK.
OK, holla me.
Let me probably.
American is a bigger population.
It's a bigger country.
I don't know about population.
I.
Hope you're wrong.
I was like Switzerland or
something.
Switzerland.
It'd be amazing.
Terribly exciting when we Google
things.
On as of the most recent
available estimates around
2024-2025 data from the sources
like UN, AIDS, WHO, World Bank
and others, South Africa has
approximately 8 million people
living with HIV.
Yeah, this is the highest
absolute number worldwide, far
exceeding other countries for
concept.
For context, earlier estimates
placed at around 7.8 to 9.2
million.
One source knows projections or
updates up to 9.4 million by
2025.
I would like to notice that the
Cigar Hustler Podcast
International News Desk is up on
all its current information.
Yeah, like black holes as well.
That's right, and no gravity.
You know, you remember like
whenever that first hit 90s, was
it 90s whenever?
Seems about right somewhere in
that 80s.
Yeah.
Was it 80s, eighties, late 80s?
You know, like, you know, we
would really get ahead of that,
you know?
Well, we kind of figured it out
for the most part.
Yeah, but it's not a death
sentence anymore.
Yeah.
Like a Magic Johnson.
Yeah.
Right.
He's curious, didn't he?
Didn't he?
I mean, he doesn't have it
anymore.
Yeah, he was the first one in
West Africa.
Fucking yeah.
He.
Was the first one to get bit.
He got bit by the mosquito,
Michael.
That's what happened.
Yeah.
Well, look, I mean, at this
point, like, I see the
commercials for it all the time.
Like HIV, No problem.
Like whoa.
Right, just take, just take this
pill.
Yeah.
And then kiss your boyfriend.
That's the way the commercial
goes.
You know, it's almost funnier
without, without Phil, because
Palmer fills it in.
He picks up.
He's like.
I'll pick 3 running.
Over here.
Pick up the slack over here and
all right, well, Mr. Michael
Rosales, the row of Romacraft.
I don't want to keep you past
your time, and I've already done
that by about two minutes.
It's all good.
Thank you guys for having.
Me there.
Is there anything else you'd
like to add?
Are you going to be anywhere in
the upcoming weeks before the
show?
No, it's, I think we're going to
shut it down and just really
kind of make sure that
logistically everything is ready
to go.
If we do anything, it'll be
local in Texas.
No, but we have the El Marinaros
coming out, We've got craft
coming out, genetic deformities
shipping out.
So I mean, we got a lot of fun
stuff, so yeah.
Some fun cigars on the pipeline.
That's it.
And then?
Dates kind of TBD, they're
tentative, but we're still,
we're working on the details as
to when they're going to be.
Released for the craft or for?
Yes, all of them.
All of them.
I mean, when they're ready,
they're ready.
When they're ready.
Just just like Skip on a day 2
of PCA.
That's right.
When he's ready.
Exactly.
Show any shows, you know, it's
but yeah, no, it it's so just so
people know, there was some
packaging things that we had to
work through.
So on the the leather strap,
some of the impressions on the
didn't come through, so we had
to redo all that.
So it delayed a little bit, but
that just means the cigars are
going to be extra age.
Even better.
Even better.
Yeah.
So looking forward to that.
There's been a lot.
I mean, I get text messages,
direct messages, you know,
emails on what is this, you
know, from consumers.
So I know they're excited so.
Nice.
But yeah, thanks for having me
on.
Thanks for coming on start.
To be quick, you have a shop
lined up for this afternoon.
When you miss your flight
somewhere, you're going to hang.
Out no.
I have more of a of a risk of
missing my flight because of the
traffic here more so than
actually eating it.
Well, probably, yeah.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Bet mine he could be in Tampa
this evening.
That's it.
So.
All right.
See you guys.
Thanks for coming.
Up all right.
Thanks, Michael.
We're.
Going to switch around and we'll
be right back.
So Michael, do you have a video
for us today are.
We recording.
Yeah.
I do have a video for us today.
Oh.
Great.
I'm going to have a video for
you.
Every day now.
Because.
So nice to be back in my own
chair.
I am now the Co host of episode
493 of.
You said that I never do it.
This one.
This one's a little more
personal.
Oh, it's a video of me.
No, no, not that personal.
I just sent it to you.
Hold on.
I sent it to both of you.
My shoulders are bubbled.
My wife complaints.
Your shoulders are bubbled.
These if the jacket bunches.
Complaints.
Well, no, because I've been
sitting on the jacket.
That one time.
It was that one time it was
really bad.
OK all.
Right.
She watches the show again.
No, just the clips like
everybody else.
Yeah, just the.
Clips like everybody else.
Oh, I saw this.
OK, so I went to Universal on
Sunday and oh.
Yes, I've seen this.
We went into the park, we did
some, you know, we did wanted to
climb around on this jungle gym.
Is that OK?
Can you go up there or no?
No.
Oh, OK.
Is there anything over there?
Turn.
Your thing off.
You can try.
No, no, no.
OK, I'll try.
No, Daddy.
No, don't.
I'll try.
Don't.
Yeah, let me try.
It's OK.
Relax.
Relax.
Relax.
Hold this.
Hold my water.
It's just black.
Just kidding.
There's a way down here.
There is, Yeah.
So yeah, then we get to this
part.
They want to go out.
Slide.
Slide was down.
And then they got to this part
where there's this room.
OK, I'll try.
No, daddy, no don't.
I'll try this poor kid.
It's OK.
Relax.
And then you tortured him, yes.
Yes, just.
Kidding.
There's a way.
Down.
Was there a way down or is it
just a place to sit?
Yeah, no, no, it's like it
brings you down next levels, the
next levels.
So it's part of the playground.
What part of the park was this
little thing in?
Jurassic Park.
So, you know, like the look in
his eyes when I said, oh, I'm
going to check it out.
The fear is like.
No.
Oh yeah.
I I.
Don't do it.
Don't go.
Don't go, don't go bleed daddy.
We won't have a daddy anymore.
Yeah.
And then and then of course, I
had to sell it.
Mommy had to get us a new daddy.
If you watch the video again, if
you, I put it on my Facebook
page too if you, but not on like
Instagram and other stuff.
If you watch the video again,
there's a kid that's coming into
the room at the same time.
Scared the crap out of him too.
I like kids in therapy.
Oh, it was absolutely epic.
Well, no.
Mikey has a story in that kids
family.
There was this big man, yeah,
yeah.
And he fell in a.
Hole.
Yeah, he almost died.
He almost died, Mommy.
It's crazy.
Dude.
Stop lying.
No man almost died.
Yeah, it's a playground.
Kids getting beaten at home now.
Yeah, we told you about this.
Told you about telling stories?
But I got to tell you, dude,
those metas, they're epic.
Oh, those are the glasses.
Those are the glasses.
Yeah, yeah.
Because, you know, like,
everything is so authentic
because the kids don't realize
that you're recording them,
right?
You know how we can use those at
PCA?
Yeah, well, there's a white
flashing blank thing that's.
Probably PCA is going to pay
attention.
I mean, I'm bringing them to
PCA, right?
But what are you going to?
What are you going to get at
PCA?
So what do you really think of?
Oh, why is he talking to the
sunglasses on on.
He he thinks he's a movie star.
I don't know what to tell you.
We can't get them not to wear
them now.
Wears them all the time.
Wears them all the.
Time you know Palmer, you can
get prescription ones.
The Ray Bans, yeah.
Right.
I I don't have that kind of
money.
Me neither.
Don't want to tell you not like
the show.
Can afford two pair.
The show didn't buy these these.
Pair.
I would make it a joke, Michael.
I know.
We're sure we don't do it.
That's not nice.
OK, the brand can't afford two
pair.
I'm going to hit it eventually.
Wasn't the brand maybe
partially?
There's only one left.
Greg's safe cannot handle 2.
Partially the brand, Greg.
'S safe.
Cannot handle.
Greg will notice if you steal
money out of his safe for two
pair.
Right.
No.
You just I just removed a couple
of gold coins out of this out.
Of his balloons.
Out of the Scrooge Mcduck throne
that he has.
I'm Victor and Greg just sitting
there in a bottle.
Of Hayes, That's what he does
when he goes home.
Yeah, like the dragon and.
Yeah, he's been very positive on
the Slack, the Google Slack.
Great day.
Yeah.
Great day, guys.
Yeah.
Woo, yeah, that's that's him
all.
Right.
And then the Cigar news.
Cigar News fell over.
There you get it, Cigar.
News Cigar News.
Cigar News.
Michael Michael Cigar News.
What's up?
Did it Did it did it did it did
it did it did it did it it it.
It's the news.
No, you got words.
T Money said, by the way, in the
recent most recent comment, T
Money made the comment of he has
attacked me in several comments
and I did read them out loud and
then he said also Friday should
be called Friday's filled
something.
What?
Is that filet filled Friday?
Filet filled Friday because you
got destroyed on Friday by your
own friend, right?
Yeah, the guy that you pushed to
have on the show.
Unbelievable.
That's right, he hung you out to
drive.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
Unreal.
I think we did, you guilt.
Did you get some more cigars out
of that at least?
More cigars.
Extra ones opposed to what only
we got.
Yeah, like, hey.
No, no.
I just got the $180 one that you
guys got.
Just the one.
Was that the $80.00, that purple
thing?
That was pretty good actually.
Yeah, it wasn't bad.
Yeah, the purple one I think is
the more expensive.
I think the less expensive is
the gold or green.
I saw.
Why didn't he leave us more?
I saw Jimmy Johnny smoking the
giant Lancero.
Jimmy, Johnny.
Well, his real name is Jimmy,
but he is the Johnny too, I
thought.
His real name's Joe.
Joe Joe.
Joey.
Johnny.
Joey, Joey.
Johnny.
Do you have my lighter over
there?
You gave it to Rosales to light
a cigar.
Oh, it's gone.
It was over there.
Not over here.
Let's say it was in the chair.
It's on his way to Tampa.
That's way to Tampa.
I'm going to show you guys.
What's that in your pocket?
Oh, it's in my pocket.
Oh, there you go.
All right, Cigar News Oz Family
Cigars turns to my father for
two new cigars.
Really.
Yes, wow.
The newest cigars, Oz Family
Cigars, is using two different
My Father factories, according
to a report from Cigar
Aficionado.
Well, I think they only have
two.
But it's using both of.
Them Honduras and Esther Lee.
Yeah.
The Oz family were released 2
new cigars in the spring.
Potentially as early as May 1 is
a new regular production line
called Macarena Macana Maracana.
That's not Macarena.
MAR what?
MARACANAA lot of as all all the
A's missing from your.
Name you put in there?
Maracana.
Maracana, which is inspired by
Estado du Macarana, the famed
soccer stadium in Rio de
Janeiro.
Estado du.
Estado Estadio du.
Estadio.
Du du DO do in English it would
be do do.
I understand it's not English
where Flamingo and Flumamence
play their home games.
A lot of information.
It's a lot of things that US
Americans can connect on right
there.
Blend wise the where?
Let's go with Macarana.
Macarana uses a Brazilian
Adaparaka wrapper over Honduran
and Nicaraguan binder.
See, that was a.
That was a hard word in my head
because there's no D.
Adaparaka.
It's AR, not AD.
Arburger.
Arburger binders and fiddlers
from Honduras and Nicaragua.
It'll be offered in 4 sizes. 04
box press sizes.
There's a robusto or robusto
extra, So there's robusto and
slightly bigger robusto, right?
There's a Gordo which is still
bigger, right?
And then a Toro which is 6 1/2
by 50.
So it's a little smaller OK in a
regular.
Way that sounds about right.
So they threw in the robusto
extra, right?
Robusto Toro Gordo, right?
It's made it my father's cigars.
Honduras.
Tim's very cool, by the way.
I like this guy.
Yeah, Oz, Yeah, yeah, he's very
chatty.
When they when they used to do
the trick or treating thing.
You're like the chitchat.
What?
Trick or treating thing?
He's on.
Like the great smoke, the year I
met him at the great smoke was
the trick or treat thing and is
and I wasn't even trick or
treating, but as I walked by
he's like hey, then there is the
Oz Family Cigar Limited Edition
World Cup 2026 Limited Edition 6
by 50 Toro.
That one's.
An that is said to use a Mexican
San Andreas wrapper over tobacco
from Brazil, Ecuador, Honduras,
Nicaragua and the.
US Hey, we're podcasting.
Great.
Hey, how you doing?
We're podcasting.
How are you?
Good.
Is.
That the other sweetie.
This is Jack Dron.
Oh, hi, Jack.
What?
Size is what size is Palmer.
Extra large.
He's XL.
XL.
Yeah, I think I only have green
in XL.
That's fine.
I don't know what he's talking
about it.
I'll take it.
The sweatshirt How?
About oh green, how about?
Boots.
How about?
Boots he's dude, he when you
mentioned Palmer, I'm watching
his face and he's like, fuck,
I'm not kidding one.
Double XL.
He's a he's A2 XL.
He's a very snug 2 XL.
Wow.
Is black is black OK for?
Him black is very slim.
He doesn't like black because of
big ball.
Wow.
Wow.
Paul doesn't like.
Black because he's racist?
Well.
Then he ain't getting.
One No.
He loves black.
He loves black.
OK, black and a green XL.
Hold on, let me make sure I have
the green.
XL Verifying.
I'm verifying I, do I.
Do yay.
All right.
Thank you, Jack.
Jack's around does.
Anybody else?
Does anybody else want a hat
that's there or when Cazars all
of them because I saw.
I saw Eric ask you for.
Once.
Yeah.
So Eric's obviously getting one.
Do you want one too?
You're not a hat guy.
I'm not a hat guy, man.
I appreciate it.
I'm not a hat guy.
I'm a hat guy.
The slingback is was wonderful.
The hat.
Not so much.
That's fair.
Awesome.
OK.
Any.
Questions.
Any questions for the podcast?
No, that's it.
What's the meaning of life?
Oh.
Selling Espinosa cigars.
Wow, OK, that's the meaning.
That's the meaning here.
It's very deep.
It is the dog days before the
trade show right now, buddy.
That's it, We're waiting.
For the show deals.
Right.
Yeah.
Standard.
All right, let.
Him know I opened a shop on
Wednesday or on Saturday all.
Right, later.
All right, later.
Thanks.
Hey, Jack.
Thank you, Jack.
There you go.
So you got.
Your I may be getting one from
Roma Craft too.
Wow.
He's not sure if he has any
left.
He only made like 7 or something
he's in.
You're probably not getting one
of those.
Well, the extra the last extra
large he's pretty he sure went
to Gordon upstairs.
Yeah, you're.
I would have to snug into a
large you're.
Probably not getting one.
Probably not.
That's an empty promise.
That's right.
He's like, yeah, I got you.
Well, I also made fun of his
jacket, so it's probably not.
Happening.
Yeah.
Then you.
Yeah.
Well, do you leave that here?
Oh.
That would have been.
Nice.
Throw that in the garbage A.
Little.
By the way, him in a Chinese
work outfit is going to be the
graphic for the show.
As long as it's bigger because
you all you do the the host, the
guest, like the feature people,
they're so small.
Right.
No, no, I meant the big one.
The big one will be will be him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do they have his ICE at all the
airports now or just the one?
I don't think I think that is a
plan.
I don't think they've sent them
out.
I have no idea.
Oh, here's what I can tell you.
Tom Brady threw a drop of dime
on Stefan Diggs, which I saw was
incredible.
And Gronk.
Gronk caught one, too, and then
pulled a hammy and then was
cooked.
Flag football was fun.
Yeah, that's what I got.
And March Madness is going on.
Florida lost, you know, But he's
not going to cover that.
And Miami?
And, well, Miami.
But they weren't, they weren't
#1 the.
Gators The.
Gators were number one.
They lost to Iowa.
Yeah.
Like Iowa, I don't think when I
think Iowa, I don't think
basketball.
I was, yeah.
I mean like Indiana, Iowa, like
those corn states.
I'm just going to say again,
when I think Iowa, I don't think
basketball.
I don't think so.
They're not.
It's not a.
Hawkeyes.
It's not a team that I'm like,
you know what, I want to go join
the Iowa.
Like I would want to join the UI
would want to join Florida.
I would, I'd want it.
I'd even consider joining.
I mean, FSU, you know, and then
like maybe some Texas teams,
Ohio.
Yeah, right.
I don't know.
Am I wrong here?
Yeah, basketball's a little
different.
Yeah, Yeah, 'cause you could be
from a podunk state that has no
sports, like let's say
Massachusetts, right?
They have no pro teams.
OK.
But they have one of the
greatest college teams of all
time.
For basketball.
Yeah, UConn.
Did you say Massachusetts has no
pro teams?
No, I'm sorry, I meant
Connecticut, not Massachusetts.
OK cuz Massachusetts has a
couple pro teams.
Sorry, I meant.
Have you heard of the Boston
Celtics?
Yeah.
New England Patriots.
I meant Boston Brook.
Connecticut cuz I said UConn.
OK, Connecticut.
Yeah.
So we're mixing up our
Connecticut with our
Massachusetts.
They're right next to each
other.
They're practically the same
thing.
Yeah.
OK.
For whatever reason, Duke is
always there.
Duke is a big deal.
But Duke is in is below them
right now in Connecticut.
Duke.
Yeah.
Sure.
About that, no, I'm not.
OK.
All right.
So go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Are you guys done with the
sports stuff?
Yeah.
I'm I'm sorry we got broken up
by I Aren't you glad that I
answered the phone so that you
guys could get sweatshirts?
Sure.
He called me but I turned my
phone.
Off exactly, and I answered for
him.
I turned my help you, you're the
best, I said.
Thank you my.
Phone did not ring, no.
But you have, you're sitting
there, mine's face down over
here on the side so it doesn't
distract you so.
So so so so So what I'm
gathering from this Osager thing
is that he used to do this when
he was Cao, right?
Because they used to do a FIFA
World Cup cigar.
Oh, really?
That's Oh, did they?
I don't.
Know.
Yeah, Yeah.
Because I remember seeing in a
humor when I first started
smoking cigars with you guys.
Yeah.
Wasn't that Placencia that made
a World Cup cigar last year?
Yeah.
I think they made one.
Yeah, the green one.
Supposedly, these cigars will be
ready right before June 11th,
right before the kickoff.
These are the other ones, the L
ES, yes, but these are made in
Esta Lee, correct?
And what's the rapper?
Rumor is Mexican San Andreas, no
confirmation.
They were emailed for
confirmation.
They refused to answer.
Really.
Really.
Yeah, Somebody had to give the
Intel.
That's what half Wheel stated.
OK.
And does 'cause he's part of
Crown Heads, right?
Yeah.
He's actually, yeah.
Do any of the other cigars from
crown heads come from my father?
Just these OK, yes I'm not
familiar.
With for a long time they have
worked together OK Las Calaveras
OK, there's some other ones too.
The last one that instantly
comes to mind, probably LA
Perioso A.
Lot of LA cigars.
Yeah.
Anything it makes starts with a
La La.
La all.
Right, Hiram, Hiram, Hiram.
Yeah.
Hiram and Solomon adding two new
limited editions, the Fraternal
Flame and the Mystic Tie.
Hiram and Solomon Cigars has
announced that it will release a
pair of LE Cigars Fraternal
Flame Mystic Tie in the near
future, with the cigars
scheduled to be featured at the
upcoming PCA convention trade
show in April.
I like that the cigar announce
news.
Things now are very short.
There's no extra fluff anymore.
Yeah, company says the Eternal
Flame in ponies, Fellowship and
Inner enlightenment, inspired by
the theme Ignite the Light
Within.
That's it.
Cigar uses an Ecuadorian Claro
Amarillo AM ARILLO.
Emerio.
Amarillo Amarillo Rapper
Amarillo.
Amarillo, Amarillo.
Armadillo.
It's Ecuadorian.
Claro Armadillo without the D.
Armadillo Amarillo.
Amarillo.
An Ecuadorian binder and a
filler that contains US grown
tobacco.
Now I know you get upset when
they just say like Nicaraguan
tobacco or tobacco.
Do you also get upset when they
say US grown tobacco or is there
less options?
I think I'm upset.
Are you?
Yeah, I, you know, same
scenario.
Like what is it?
Is it American broadleaf?
Is it American Habano?
You know, I think that those
things can be, you know, like
that's.
Could make a.
It would make a difference.
Yeah, yeah, right.
Like, even if it's Cameroon,
like let's say, you know.
Is there American Cameroon?
No, but how cool would that be?
Like you would acknowledge the
fact that the seed came from
Cameroon, Africa, but it's grown
in America, you know what I
mean?
Instead of saying, well, now
it's American, like red
American.
Like that doesn't help me with
anything, you know, like what
type of motor is it V8?
Like what do you mean?
Like where did it come from?
Is it a Detroit?
Is it a is it a Ford?
Like what is it?
No, no, it's AV 8.
Well, it also contains Dominican
tobacco.
OK.
Lajero secco and Dominican Secco
HVA OK.
What's that mean?
I assumed you would know.
I feel like some of this stuff
though is just so nuts.
Like what are we doing?
HVA was it?
Like.
Well, the Amarillo tobacco
Amarillo, Amarillo, Amarillo.
That's.
Probably what I said, Amarillo.
Amarillo.
The company says it celebrates
duality in connection with his
Barber pole design, symbolizing
balance and meaningful bonds,
and reflects fellowship, shared
wisdom and unity.
It was made for the most
Worshipful Omar S Morris,
Grandmaster of Masons of the
state of New Jersey for
Grandmaster, Grandmaster of
Mason of Mason.
The Barber pole design is
made-up of two wrappers,
Ecuadorian Connecticut leaf and
a Mexican San Andreas Maduro,
while the binder comes from the
Indonesian and the filler
contains Dominican Sacco Piloto
along with tobacco from
Paraguay.
So much tobacco in the cigar.
A lot of taste.
And the Dominican Republic.
Both cigars are 6 by 52 standard
toros made at the PDR cigars
with production limited to 1000
boxes of 10 cigars.
Each cigars comes priced at.
Gentlemen, individually.
Individually.
Who is PDR?
Phil PDR makes them.
We're still talking about the
Ironman Solomon Grandmaster
blend.
Amarillo for the.
Grandmaster. 14 bucks.
Ecuador and Cloudo Amarillo.
Amarillo 18 dollars $16.00 OH.
Right in the right.
In the middle.
Yeah, that's where I was at
originally.
But the baby just.
Stuck with Ironman, Solomon says
that part of the proceeds from
each cigar will benefit their
respective grandmasters charity.
And by charity, they mean his
private bank.
Grandmaster of the Mason.
Those cigars will be ready to.
Be outta it's they got the whole
thing.
Those cigars will be ready to
ship to retailers ahead of the
2620.
We're trying to accomplish.
Is it?
Yeah, with that, yeah.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
What's it called, Mike?
I would listen, you guys.
I was talking about the cigars.
You guys were talking Naomi or?
What's the symbol on their logo?
Yeah, what's the symbol?
It's the I, it's the Mason.
That's Illuminati, isn't?
It thank you.
It's the Masons.
No, not the Illuminati.
That's the the different group
that we're not allowed to talk
about.
Yeah, but I bet both of them
have people, you know what I'm
saying?
Yeah, but the Masons are a
little less secret than the
other one.
Yeah, a little less secret, but
do you think they got people to
do like things?
Do you know a lot of Masons?
On alive people.
Do I know any Masons?
Yeah, my grandfather apparently
was.
Yeah, So what?
After he died, you know, we went
to the funeral.
No Mason logo on his headstone.
Yeah, when I went back ten years
later, Mason thing on a
headstone.
They went.
In and they hedged it
apparently.
I don't know.
Why didn't your dad become a
Mason?
I don't know if he knew, I don't
know.
If he knew that he was a Mason.
Knew that his father was a Mason
your.
Grandfather sucks bro.
Why?
He was amazing.
You know, you don't tell the
secret, you tell my grandfather.
Supposed to pass that on to your
kids though, no?
Man, my dad turned it down.
I don't know, maybe the CIA
interfered with the masonry.
The CIA, He was with the CIA.
Your dad was the CIA.
That's the You don't remember
the show we did when my father
died, where I did not miss an
episode because we did one about
him.
It was a long time ago.
Four years.
Not that.
Long Yeah.
There's a lot in this brain that
kind of pours out after a while.
I remember at Palmer I can't.
Tell us.
It was exactly what he said it
was.
What was it?
It was Mason on his headstone.
Yeah.
Not on my dad, no.
What about you?
What about his dad?
My dad's in a box.
He's a great guy.
Yeah, what about him?
He's perfect.
He worked with the CIA.
He wasn't.
Perfect, Yeah.
Nobody's perfect, but he's
perfect for you.
He wasn't perfect.
Nobody's perfect.
He's perfect for you, He.
Did a great job.
Yeah, he was a good dad.
Apparently worked at the CIA.
Maybe.
I like him.
We can't confirm this.
Not allowed to talk about.
No, we mentioned it.
There's sirens.
No, it's a maybe before.
Handcuff me in the front please.
That was usually, look, man,
there were plenty of these guys,
fake Navy SEAL guys that take
all this credit and then make
these books.
You can say a little couple
things about CIA, you know.
There's other people that take
credit for that kind of stuff
too, aren't there, Michael?
Yes, you're saying like me.
You told that story.
Oh, when I got my military
discount, yes.
I didn't know it was a military
discount.
The lady told you it was you.
Thank you for your service.
At that point it was awkward.
What was I supposed to do?
I'm not in the military.
I'm very sorry.
No, no, no.
I want this.
No.
Please don't take me down.
I was saving my $5.
Not like I get senior discount
and I go no, no, no, I'm not 55
or I'm not 60, whatever it is, I
am 50.
Do you take?
Oh, stolen senior value.
Senior value?
Wow.
Depends.
I qualify someone because it's
55 and older in some place.
That was 55 and up.
Yeah, it's 55 up.
Some places it's a little.
Higher.
Yeah, you get like the cheap
coffee at McDonald's.
You know, I've never tried that.
I only get the haircut discount.
Oh yeah, you get like a sausage,
egg Mcmuffin and a coffee for
like nothing do.
You really?
Yeah, it's like a buck or
something.
You know, you know what you
should do, though, when somebody
asks or you know, did you serve
as in the military?
And you should say no.
But my dad may have worked with
the CIA.
Yes, see what they.
Do see if.
You get a discount there.
And my grandfather?
Son.
Yeah, and my grandfather was a
Mason.
He was in the military, he was
in the army.
At what?
Oh, there your.
Grandfather was in the army.
Your grandfather's a stud.
He borrowed someone else's shoes
so that he could join.
You know what?
I remember that story.
Right.
He was in the he was in the, not
the Calvary.
But what's it called when you
shoot the They're not really
cannons, but artillery, But the
artillery was moved around by
horses.
So he needed shoes.
No, he borrowed shoes because
they wouldn't let you sign up
without shoes.
So.
He took someone else's shoes.
Borrowed.
He showed up without shoes.
No, because he knew.
What do you do without these
shoes?
Hey, you gotta have shoes in
your military.
Well, what a requirement.
Well, I mean they don't want you
to barefoot it into war.
It's a little problem.
They don't issue you anything.
Not back then.
Not back then.
Not back then they couldn't
afford.
Shoes not back in.
The come on, we're riding
horses.
I just said, you know, they had
to put shoes on horses.
What part of the military?
He's an army.
He.
Was in the army, he was in the
army artillery.
They moved them around, but with
I.
Got artillery.
I didn't hear army.
Oh, sorry, he was in the army.
Yeah, there was back then, maybe
when he joined, maybe that was
all that was really there.
Yeah, there was no masters at
arms.
Yeah, there was no Navy.
Yeah, there's no name.
We didn't have boats yet.
They had invented boats.
They.
Were in boats.
Horses.
They didn't invent boats.
I remember I have a real nice
frame picture of my home on
horseback.
Really.
Yeah, wearing his dress.
Greens, I guess they call it.
Oh.
Really.
Yeah, that should be a cigar,
bro.
Dress greens.
What's the picture?
Totally.
Put him on a cigar.
Yeah, it's.
A whole Polish theme, Michael.
It sort of doesn't flow.
It doesn't have to go with
Postana, it can go with
something else.
Oh yeah, gotcha.
What was the name?
His name?
Yeah, Ray.
Ray.
What Ray?
Palmer.
Ray Palmer, Ray.
Newton Palmer, senior.
Did he have a nickname like
Gunny or some shit?
No, Dad did Sammy, That's why we
used.
That yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Ray's got a Ray had to have
a nickname.
He might have, but anybody who
knows is probably not not alive.
Ray DPI.
Was going to say that's my dad
but I can't ask him either.
Mom has no idea she didn't know
her.
Name RDP.
RDP.
Yeah, lineage line R.
What's the D for what?
What was the D for?
What was?
The D for I don't know.
Why don't you ask?
PDP.
Oh, huh.
Glad I don't know, I thought.
What's the D for I?
Thought you were saying it was
his middle name.
It's Newton.
It wasn't.
It great another secret with
these freaking cigars tell.
Me.
Anything about Ray Palmer?
All right, Wildfire Bootas hair
brand ships The Dead Drift.
Definitely not my.
Favorite There's a limited
edition release from Wildfire
Cigar Company.
It's on its way to storage.
The Dead Drift is a 6 by 50 Toro
vitola made with an Ecuadorian
Habana wrapper, a Sumatra seed
binder, and a filler blend of
Criojo 98 and Criojo tobaccos.
The cigars were produced at an
unnamed factory in the Dominican
Republic.
Think maybe it's that one is
sitting empty now.
A Ray Palmer, who served as
supply Sergeant in field
artillery with the US Army's
113th Ammunition Train during
World War One.
Yep, did did that come up in
Cronk?
Returning, That's all true.
Returning from France as part of
that unit.
Wow, that's all true.
OK.
Let me it's so this is the guy
some close related matches
include.
Tell me more.
Go ahead, keep going.
Unnamed factory in Dominican
Republic each dead drift has.
Are we looking at price?
An MSRP of There's a dead drift
from Wildfire Favorite brand 10
count boxes. 10 bucks. 16.
$14.00.
I won that time, yeah.
Total production has not been
announced because they're not
sane.
Too much math here.
Said this is a one time release
and fishing.
A dead drift is when a family
attached to a fishing line is
left to drift naturally in the
current in an attempt to
stimulate the insects natural
behavior.
He was with Company A, motor
section unit.
Context 113th Ammunition Train
was a support transport unit
responsible for hauling and
distributing artillery
ammunition to frontline units.
Oh, kind of like the bear.
It fell under the broader
structure of field artillery
supply chains in the AEF, often
attached to divisions in Corp.
The motor section indicates it
involved motorized truck based
transport, which is increasingly
common.
By 1918, as the US Army shifted
from horse drawn to mechanized
logistics, he was futuristic.
No, no, no, no need for that
horse.
We have this.
We have this bottle T thing we.
Have this V8.
Yeah, with these bicycle tires.
The bicycle tires a lot of
traction problems because
they're heavy, but still we
didn't.
U.S.
Army Field Artillery Company,
Air World War One likely
enlisted.
Drafted around 19/17/19.
Eighteen served overseas and
then was demobilized in about
1919.
No prominent awards, combat
citations, or high profile
actions are tied to him in
public records.
He seems to have been a typical
enlisted support soldier in a
logistics role rather than
frontline combat.
He.
Has some service ribbons, but
yeah, no medals.
There you go.
My brother has the ribbons, I
have his flag.
There you go.
You're welcome.
Thank you.
Now it's time for the industry's
favorite game.
What's the score?
We have some usual selections
for today.
Oh good.
Unusual or usual?
Unusual.
OK, First cigar.
October 17th, 2017 Brian Burt
reviewed OK, it's the Dominican
Republic.
Review the Samurai Red Church.
Oh, look at you.
This is your boyfriend, Phil.
I didn't want to do it during
his show, he might know the
answers, so I saved it for
today.
Who's going first?
Me.
Yeah.
Your guy we're.
Going to play the middle of the
field here. 85 you.
Don't want to try and dupe me,
it's like a 67.
You yell out 62 or something.
89.
It doesn't work with you
anymore.
The Sanbur I read Churchill,
it's the Dominican Republic.
Cigar Factory is Tablicalera
Palma rapper Ecuadorian Corojo
Binder Dominican Republic filler
Dominican Republic It's a 7 and
8th by 47.
Churchill, $40 a cigar.
Release date 2016.
Number of cigars smoked 3.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Glow Glow.
Glow.
Glow.
Glow.
Glow.
Glow.
Glow.
Glow, glow. 85.
You don't want to.
I'm going to tell him that he
went so low, OK?
He's gonna start watching our
show.
No, he's.
Not he's not he's.
Gonna watch the clips like
everybody else.
First clue, the first, third.
Everybody else has not watched
the clips.
No, not everybody.
I see the numbers.
We have value listeners and
watchers that watch our.
Show that's a bad thing and.
It grows every day.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
I had a discussion with ChatGPT
that says we're doing exactly
what we should be doing.
Yeah, we're doing a good job.
You and ChatGPT talk to each
other.
And we value.
Our typed but I I talk to it
when I drive sometimes.
We value our full episode
viewers and listeners.
Maybe we should do a shirt that
says.
We value our listeners.
No, I watch the full episode
chapter pod.
And we should only release the
link in a certain area.
Of the show full episode Hey
features.
As long as we're stopped here at
the moment, do we have shirts
already made or we have leftover
shirts from other things that we
used to do?
What do you?
What do you?
Like like leftover Halloween
shirts or leftover 4th of July
shirts or leftover or something.
I still have the decals for
those.
The decals.
OK, yeah, what if we did like a
mystery shirt at a certain
price?
But they don't know you know
when you just choose one and
make?
Gordles and goblins.
Yeah, to get rid of the extras.
I don't know.
You know, it's like discount on
a mystery shirt I.
Didn't want to do that.
I wanted to bring them back.
Oh OK, well that works.
In a different format, in a
different shirt color or
something like that.
I thought that would be cool.
That would be good.
So hold it till the next year
for Halloween.
That works also.
I don't know, there's not many
gordos and goblins though.
Well, I don't know how many got
left of anything to be honest,
but I.
Got a bunch of these.
I saw another company that was
doing I went hard mystery
shirts.
Oh really?
I went hard on the paint on my
BDP.
It's my favorite shirt though,
so you know what?
I got to be honest, it's never
going on sale because I'll just
continue to wear these.
Take them for you as they wear.
Out.
Yeah, you guys can't have them.
I wear the tank top all the time
at home, yeah.
Me too, me too the the 4th of
July. 4th of July the red tank
top I.
Rock it all the time.
Yep.
All right.
The first third offered a really
engaging and layered profile led
by sweet spice note upfront
while supporting flavors of
espresso.
Boots is nuts, cocoa and earth.
The addition of a subtle sweet
fruit note helped balance
everything nicely and kept the
profile interesting on dynamic
early and interesting and
dynamic early on.
Sorry I made fun of your friend
Boots Phil.
Yeah, yeah, I guess it's just
Attack boots day.
I'm not.
Here I'm not attacking.
I know you're not.
I know you're not.
I'm being nice.
I missed out on Filet Friday.
Yeah, because your friend was
doing so many things Filet.
Fill Friday.
Filet fill Friday.
Yeah, he tried to attack me a
couple of times.
I'm just.
Oh, that would make a good
shirt.
We'd make him as a fish
sandwich.
Filet Fill Friday filet.
Fill Friday 86.
Wow, he's still low on.
The Yeah, I'm working on a new
shirt.
I'll show you the artwork.
It's hilarious.
It has nothing to do with Phil.
Oh, but you're gonna show me
too.
I'll.
Show you too.
Yeah.
OK, No, I won't, of course.
I like the way you said that
there.
He's like.
What about me?
Like there was just like one of
those sweatshirts, like, oh,
what size?
And I could see it.
I'm watching them because I
already knew.
Like I talked to Teranio a few
days ago.
I was like, I got to work on
getting some, see if I can get
some sweatshirts for the boys.
I said, OK, so but I already
knew that you were in the
pipeline for that.
So I'm just watching you and
you're like.
Well, like a.
Sad puppy over there like.
Well, I know he he said that he
was going to give me something
once before and never came so.
Oh yeah, what was it?
It was the, it was the bomber
jacket when we went to dude, I
mean, what you want to call it
when we went to the not the
great smoke, the the Lasuna
Bluza.
Yeah.
He's like, oh, I'll get you one
of those.
I was like, OK, cool.
Yeah.
He's like, I'll just send it to
you because we were getting
ready to leave.
I was like, all right, cool.
That I mean, that's a big ask.
But when this came up, I was
like, Oh yeah, here it comes
another Nope, not not for boots.
Here it comes.
That's a big ask.
The bomber one, yeah.
I told Rosales you say your size
at the beginning of every show
now.
Yeah, but two XL.
But 2 XL.
Oh, it's all.
It's all row.
That we were talking upstairs.
I mean, I like those jackets.
They're cool.
I didn't know that they maybe I
did see a thing or I don't know.
I just didn't act on it I guess.
90 Did he really?
Yeah, 86.
Despite not being razor sharp,
the burn performed well overall,
staying mostly even, producing a
firm ash and requiring no touch
ups.
The cigar also maintained a
smooth, enjoyable experience
throughout the final inch
without the harshness
intensifying.
Phil.
So I'm going to be honest about
this cigar.
Not the one I'm smoking, the one
that we're reviewing, right?
Now, not the one that you just
fried.
With that torch, you think I
fried it?
Yeah, dude, I can see the.
See a little bit of the black.
Up the cigar, Holy moly.
So yeah, Jared Moore, go ahead.
Keep me.
Going, you know, I really need
you really got to cook it on
there.
Wow.
I like it really hot, yeah.
I.
Like it?
Oh, that's it.
Now it smells like burnt
tobacco.
I think when I first smoked
these cigars, I didn't like
them.
Is this the one we're talking
about or some whatever you're
smoking?
I'm so confused on what's going
on me.
Too, The ones that we're talking
about, the one that we're
talking about, the when I first
went, I didn't like it, but the
one that we spoke was that
yesterday, not yesterday,
Friday, Friday.
The purple.
That's such a blur.
It it was it wasn't bad.
Do they not have color or NUM
names?
They're just called by colors.
I don't know.
That's a raining $80 endorsement
though.
Not that bad.
Yeah, no, I wouldn't pay $80.
OK because when he yells over he
goes give me a purple one.
Right.
I think that's my biggest
problem with the cigars.
Is the price is that it's got a
color that is.
No, it's the price.
It's French.
It takes a lot to ship out here
from France.
They're not France or from.
Yeah, but they make them there.
Then they ship them to France.
They sound Jorge, and it's
blessed by the French Pope.
Right.
Is that?
Oh, really?
Sprinkle them with holy wine.
Yeah, it's.
A totally different Pope.
It's not the same.
It's a different.
Not the Vatican.
He's less important.
Nobody talks about him.
Yeah, he's just there to bless
cigars.
Yeah, he's just the French guy.
From Sweeney.
Yeah.
But these guys that review these
scar, these cigars on half
wheel.
This is Brian Burt.
Don't insult him.
He lives here.
Yeah, leave Brian alone.
They like they like Dominican
cigars.
They like cigars.
Yeah, they like Dominican
cigars.
That's like one of their
favourites, really.
As we all know, Phil does not
like Dominican.
Cigars.
You know what Brian likes, OK.
Yeah, these guys just rain him.
I don't.
Know what's Brian look like,
Phil?
I was.
Just going to say you probably
couldn't match meet him in the
right.
He walked in here, you wouldn't
know who he.
Was probably not 89.
That's.
Where I was going to go 89.
As the cigar moved into the
second-half, it lost some of its
early charm.
The sweetness, especially the
fruit, faded, leaving a more
earth forward profile with sharp
pepper and a slight background
harshness.
Combined with a more uneven
burn, the balance and refinement
took a noticeable step back. 86.
87.
If the San Parai Red Churchill
wasn't provided, I don't know.
He said it three different ways
on this.
It's called.
San provided to me by the site
for the review.
I'm not sure if as a consumer I
would have taken a chance on
relatively unknown brand at this
bright point.
She's saying the cigars he
reviews he has to buy himself.
They always do.
They do, yeah.
No, but he's well.
What site provided him.
I the way it reads it makes it
sound like Half wheel gave him
the cigar.
If they didn't give it to him,
he wouldn't have bought.
It maybe, Charlie said.
Screw you.
Bite yourself all.
Right, you don't do enough of
these you.
Don't do enough of.
These Amy, especially since the
red line doesn't have a size in
it cheaper than $40.
Having said that though, I'm
glad I got to try it.
Well, I don't think the burn or
profile achieved the perfection
claim by the company.
It certainly was quite good,
especially the first third.
If the first third had been
replicated into the other thirds
of the cigar, then I think the
claim of perfection would be
much closer to reality.
Unfortunately, the reduction in
sweetness and some slight harsh
undertones did bring the overall
enjoyment level down a little.
For the most part though, the
delicate and flavorful profile
did produce an enjoyable
experience, and I think that's
what most of us are looking for
in a cigar anyway.
When we're talking about cigars
at this price point, it's hard
to just throw a blanket
statement out there to go go try
it for yourself since many
people think spending $20 on a
cigar is too much, not to
mention twice that amount.
Final score gentlemen, this is
it.
This is for all the same price
Sam for Allie and. 81.
Oh, I'll win.
I'll take 82. 90 What?
Very unusual score considering
all the bad things, yeah.
He sounded, he sounded like he
hated at the end.
No.
Well, I mean, he was talking
about the price, but that's not
going to affect the cigar.
The flavor profile.
He enjoyed the flavor profile,
but there was some inconsistent
burns.
So yeah, 90s seems a little
high, but not extremely off.
But in like the second clue he
said that it lost the character
or whatever so that it's.
Faded.
I feel like Charlie had reviewed
as it would be closer to what
you guys were saying.
That was easy.
Yeah, when he was 81.
Yeah, 81 1/2.
All right, all right.
Second cigar.
April 1st, 2017, Our friend
Brooks Whittington, The Cigar.
Izzy.
La Aurora Limited edition main
review.
La Aurora Extravaganza.
La Aurora.
Extravaganza.
What was the year?
2017.
Brooks.
Brooks. 88.
La Aurora, so we'll go 89.
The cigars The La Aurora La
Extravaganza Sorry Country of
origin, Dominican Republic
Factory La Aurora Rapper
Ecuadorian Sumatra Binder,
Brazilian Mafina Filler
Brazilian Dominican Republic,
Peru and Nicaragua.
It is a 20 inch cigar, is 80
ring gauge, $30 and he only
smoked one. 87. 89.
The cigar makes a bold first
impression with its massive size
and solid construction.
The wrapper, though slightly
rough, carries a rich espresso
brown color and offers an
interesting pre light aroma of
peanuts, coffee beans, earth and
pepper backed by a nuanced cold
draw featuring cedar, leather,
cocoa and cinnamon. 90. 89.
Early performance showed some
promise with a surprisingly
straight burn through the first
third in a mild, approachable
flavor profile of creamy peanut,
leather, earth and light spice.
There were even hints of
sweetness and salt that added
some intrigue despite the slow
start. 90. 89.
The overall smoking experience
was severely compromised by a
major draw issue.
Despite burning for hours, the
cigar failed to produce usable
smoke, essentially turning the
experience into an extended cold
draw.
This completely overshadowed any
flavor potential and ultimately
made the cigar unsmokable and
not worth the time investment.
90. 89.
Final thought, judging by the
hook on the display box it is
sold in, the Stravaganza is
obviously meant to be a
showpiece.
But as my review of the Opus X
Football and Femur have proven,
cigars like this can often be
smoked and thus the review
today.
The Stravaganza actually burned
quite well for the time I was
smoking, and while the flavors I
was getting out of it were not
overly complex, they were
enjoyable enough to continue.
The major problem was the fact
that despite the very small
amount I cut off the cap, I just
could not get enough suction or
pressure to draw the smoke the
entire length of the cigar,
which means I was basically just
cold drawing the whole time I
was smoking.
Patrick's review of the Woody
shows that cigars this size
can't theoretically be smoked.
I would not be averse to try and
again to see if the second time
it would be any less
frustrating.
Now before you give the score,
there is one more tidbit of
information.
With this review, you will get
after the score and you will be
given the opportunity to score
one more time.
OK.
This has some extra information
that the other ones don't
They're.
Giggle puss.
PS.
So you're not after I'm going to
give this.
I can do another one after this.
Yes, with this new information,
there's an editor's note.
OK, 90. 89.
Editor's Note The score below is
extremely low.
It is not so much an indictment
of the flavor, but rather the
fact that the cigar could not be
smoked.
As such.
The cigar received 0 points for
both the 2nd and final thirds.
This is the same practice that
we would use to evaluate a plug
cigar that could not be complete
because of the draw.
He smoked this for seven hours.
It was a picture of the of the
timer.
They set a timer apparently. 67.
66.
Oh, he went the right way.
Yeah, 31.
Wow.
That's super.
Low, yeah, you guys would never
have got.
That is that the lowest one
we've ever done?
Yeah, there was a 47, which I
think was the baseball bat.
Another cigar, which I really
don't think was intended to be
smoked like this one.
There was a display piece that
he smoked.
Wow, you went lower than 60?
Seven.
Yeah, but this one was intended
to be smoked, right?
Or no?
He says because of the notch on
the box, he feels it was not.
But they smoked the other big
ones, so they're going to smoke
this one too.
Wow.
I've never seen a super big one
from La Aurora.
I haven't either and this looks
like a Lance arrow.
There's no like hand in the
photo so you can get a an idea
of the size and name of the
photos.
OK, Paul, where are you going to
be?
This Friday and Saturday, in
just four days, No 3 days and
this goes up, we will be at the
Humor or Fine Cigars in Dothan,
AL and Bo Weevil cigars, one on
Friday, one on Saturday.
Cool.
And then on April 1st, I'm doing
an online herf with the 911 Beer
beer guys. 911, OK.
They.
Sent me the link today but it
feels like it's a little early
to put it up.
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