ACHP Episode 509 Hippos, Hooker, Meta and Then Cigars
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Welcome to Cigar Hustlers
podcast episode 509.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host.
And on today's show, we have
over in Engineering, Mikey, I'm
not Phil step on Kevin.
I'm not Phil, I have a brain.
As my host today, backed by
popular demand Triple G.
How do I keep getting roped
into?
This you know what's funny is he
just took a phone call and he
had a conversation with his wife
and he doesn't realize that he
had a mic on.
He was miked up for the entire.
He was miked up the whole
conversation.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, I got to go to this
stupid podcast.
I don't think I use the word
stupid.
I got roped into this.
Again, roped into it.
This sucks.
Yeah, I hate my life.
I hate both of them.
Yeah, it's.
I hate doing.
I really hate doing this.
But you know, I actually love
doing it.
But I don't want to admit it.
I like, you know, I'm not just
play it down play.
It down.
I'd like to play it back and see
if that's exactly what I said.
I didn't record it.
I I respected your privacy and I
turned it off.
To a point.
I mean, we listened, but we.
Didn't I respected your private?
Quarter.
Because I didn't record it, but
I was listening, right?
Yeah, I was actively listening.
Nobody else can hear it.
It's kind of like you listening
to us every single place we were
in in the shop, you know what I
mean?
That's how I justify.
It that's true.
That's why I was like, you know
what, I can listen here.
He listened to everything that I
say.
So there's no problem with that,
right?
You can't deny that.
Yeah, exactly.
So So anyways.
Anyway, on today's show we got
cocaine hippos I love.
That.
Hooker beat the rap, an AI
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Maybe maybe you did, maybe you
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I I don't like that I have to
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That's OK.
Don't lean out.
Just stay right there.
Just stay straight, CW said.
A couple things.
One, I'm buying that shirt.
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support, but also I got that hat
in just Gimme till the end of
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That was CW also.
Yep.
They said I can't wait to see
you guys on April 24th, so I
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I guess so.
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the dunk tank.
There you go.
Nice.
OK.
And one last one, I'm going to
screw this up.
Grammy Davies 1785 says you
can't hear what the two mics are
saying between 2653 and 2840.
And yes, he's correct on the
show, Mr. Paul, I asked Mr.
Palmer to not have audio on the
person the the video and just
have audio on us.
And he went the other way on
that.
I understood it is the other
way.
What's that?
I understood it is the other
way.
I figured the audio on the video
was more important than the
ramblings of us.
Yeah, so that's partial.
I'm partially to blame on this
because I didn't get him the
video as well.
He had to go get the video.
So if I had just sent him the
video, it would have been muted.
But so you can clearly see that
he wrote in the video of the
previous episode that I never
sent him the footage.
So.
And he's right, he's right, I
did not.
So I have no problem admitting
when I make.
A it eventually just not in a
timely.
Manner.
Yeah, I just realized that when
I had finally settled in for the
day, I was like, oh, man, I
forgot to send this.
And then I sent it.
It was too late.
So this is what it is.
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We do have a quick announcement
to make as far as tomorrow's
show, right, Mr. Palmer?
I don't know, You told me
yesterday.
We're not talking about.
It we can talk about it now.
I've no, I don't know if
day-to-day what's going.
On I didn't want to mention it
yesterday because this show's
coming out now.
The show after this will be the
official.
Oh well, go ahead and explain.
We're going on the road, we're
going to PCA, So we are going to
test a show, our first ever show
in the car.
So looking forward to see how
this goes.
Listen, it might be a little bit
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It's gonna be one hour.
Well, 10 hours got down to 1.
Yeah.
No, no, it doesn't.
Not gonna record.
That there's a lot of triple G
in the backseat sleeping.
Dumpster fire and this is gonna
be awesome.
So yeah, we'll see how it goes
and we're looking forward to it.
You're getting miked, just so
you know.
Oh I know, I'm getting miked
now.
I can't take any more phone
calls.
Yeah, yeah.
Worst worst worst podcast.
I'm dude, I don't.
Know why?
Anybody listen?
Apparently they need they need
me to keep this thing stained
so.
They can't go on without me on.
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That's exactly.
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Now on with the show all.
Right, this first story now on
Google Trends or their story,
they give you 3 different
articles that you can look at
that have to do with this topic.
OK, so the so these are the in
order, these are the ways they
read LA Times said Columbia
approves plan to cull dozens of
wild hippos.
OK.
And probably not good for the
show.
OK.
The second headline was from the
UPI News Columbia to cull up 80
hippos tied to late drug Lord
Pablo Escobar.
Now I'm a little interested.
Then the final one, AOL News
Columbia to kill dozens of
cocaine hippos linked to Pablo
Escobar.
We're in.
This is it.
We're going to read this story
now.
OK, so what's going on with the?
So Columbia officials on Monday
authorized a plan to cull, which
means kill, dozens of hippos
roaming freely through a region
in the center of the country.
Now this started with four
hippos at Pablo Escobar brought
to the country.
They had no hippos before this.
Yes, he brought these 4 hippos
to the country and now they have
mated and made baby hippos and
they are a large heard I guess I
don't know what they're called
hippos.
I could see it being a problem
too, because they're nasty.
Oh yeah, they they kill more
people than anything.
Else they want and they want to
kill you because they're
herbivores, right?
They're they're just angry.
He's angry, yeah.
So the environment minister,
Irene Velez said previous
messages to control the
population of these so-called
cocaine hippos have been
expensive and unsuccessful.
So first they tried to neuter
them.
I could see how that would be a
problem.
Yeah, they're probably a problem
trying to catch a neuter.
A hippo.
I imagine so.
So then they thought they'd move
them to a zoo.
Can't do that.
They killed the other hippos.
They killed the other hippos.
These are cocaine hippos.
So yeah, the cocaine hippos are
very, very St. and very angry.
I love that.
So they are up to 80 hippos now.
Oh my God, the Colombian hippos.
The Colombian hippos, so they
have registered them as a
nuisance species in the country
of Colombia.
OK.
And Colombia is the only country
outside of Africa that has
hippos.
Wild hippos.
So now they it's open season on
Hippo.
Yeah, hunt them like we do the
hogs in Florida.
Right, you can go down there and
hunt them.
So Escort kept them in a private
zoo in his Hacienda, a gigantic
ranch in the, I don't know,
River Valley of something with a
private.
Landing strip.
What's it called?
What's it called?
Say it.
Magdalena.
I guess I can't say that it's
easier to look.
Magdalena.
Yeah, Magdalena River Valley
with a private landing strip
that served as his rule abode.
So now they are invasive
species.
The sterilization did not work.
The animals are all too big.
So now if you want to go,
they're going to cost $3.5
million to round them up and
take them out.
So now just shoot them.
Just shoot them.
Just shoot them.
Problem.
Problem solved.
Or the fancy word of cull a.
Little culling.
OK, so have you ever eaten a
hippo before, Mr. Palmer?
No, I've not eaten a hippo, but
I have held a hippo poop in my
hand.
That's totally different than
why would wait a second?
Why would you hold hippo poop?
Was it in China?
No, no.
So we were at the zoo over in
Tampa, the Lowry Park Zoo, I
think it's called, over there.
And one of the people, I guess
the, the animal handlers,
whatever, what you know, they
stand, they tell you about the
animals and stuff.
She had this big, it looked like
a rock, this big thing of hippo
poop.
And she asked our little girl,
but anyway, I'd like to hold the
hippo poop.
Of course everybody said yes and
I or said no.
And I mean like, yes.
How do you pass on that?
Opportunity, right?
That's why I said, how are you
people passing?
You're never going to have this
opportunity again in your life.
And it looked, it came back up
again 10 years later I think the
only one in this room that has
held hippo poop I would assume.
Do you think people feel the
same way about like a ditty
party?
Like hey how are you going to
pass this up?
Instant regrets.
About the what party?
The Ditty Party.
Oh, maybe.
They probably did at the time.
I have to do my job here as as
well.
I know, but it's hard to hear
you over there.
Both involve fecal matter.
Yes, it's.
True alleged alleged fecal
matter.
Alleged Yes, he's got an appeal
because he's has rights.
Yeah, the First Amendment or
something.
So, OK, Greg, have you ever had
a hippo?
Ever eaten hippo?
Never eaten hippo.
In Japan, no.
Not in Japan.
I was upset about the fact that
we didn't get to eat weird
things while we were in Japan.
Really.
Yeah.
Like I wanted to eat like snake
and monkey brains, but.
I don't think monkey brains are
doing in Japan, but.
A snake that's that's.
We could have, but we didn't.
I've had snake in China.
That's Indiana Jones, Temple of
Doom stuff.
Monkey brain.
OK, well I also never had hippo.
Would you eat?
Would you eat a hippo?
I mean the whole thing.
It's just, you know, and.
That would be really hungry one.
Bite at a time.
Would you try?
Would you try it?
I would try it.
You'd try Hippo I need.
Oh sure, I would.
A little salt, it'd be fine.
Probably taste like cow.
You think so?
I.
Don't think it tastes like cow.
It's.
Got to be close.
Have you ever seen a baby hippo?
I could not eat a baby hippo.
They look like they're made out
of rubber.
They're so cute and they're just
funny.
They run around, run into
things.
Doesn't AI think hippo means
baby or no Not baby.
Means big.
Water cow.
No no.
Water Horse.
Water.
Horse water.
Oh, I think you're right.
Yeah, So I I could imagine maybe
it tastes more like horse than
it would.
I would also eat.
Horse think the water horses
because they run underwater,
they don't swim.
Correct, I don't.
Think it's because of the flavor
of the flesh.
Would you eat horse?
Little less leery, but sure.
Would you eat though?
I mean, he was already dead.
I don't want to like pick one
out of a herd and go.
This is this is Todd kill Todd
Fry.
That one up for me you.
Used to own horses, correct?
I had a horse, yes.
Did you like him?
My horse, yeah, yes, her name
was Sabel.
Her name?
Sabel would you if the
opportunity ever happened.
If the opportunity, well, I mean
the opportunity was there every
day.
I was, you know, it was just me
and her out there someday, so.
What exactly are you talking
about?
Bomber.
Yeah, exactly.
The the opportunity was there.
If it was necessary, then yes.
But just, you know, like
nobody's looking, you know, no.
It's OK, but you would have you
would have considered eating the
horse.
If if it called for if there was
no other food and it was either
eat the horse or starve, yes.
I feel like you wouldn't have
eaten the horse.
Yeah, I would have.
No, it just doesn't.
I can see that you're very
hesitant.
I'd probably draw the line at a
dog.
You love the horse.
I'd draw the line at the dog.
What happened to the horse?
She retired to a farm down in
Miami.
When I sold the farm.
Oh.
She moved to Miami like any
respectable woman does in the
state of Florida.
How did did you?
Were you OK about that?
How did that make you feel?
Oh no, that was fine.
I mean, I couldn't keep her
anymore.
So you're just done.
Yeah, OK.
The 2 cows went next door, the
chickens and the ducks went to a
young lady in FFA.
OK, and the hippopotamuses went
to Columbia?
Yes, so 1 of Escobar's 60 heard.
All right, perfect.
Of cocaine hippos.
All right, so hippos are a
problem.
Yeah, apparently, yeah, they
kill for sport like like, Triple
G said.
Love that.
OK.
All right.
Going on to the next story.
All right, we have a story
update.
OK.
Brian Hooker, our friend who may
or may not have thrown his wife
off the little boat.
He was arrested last week.
For allegedly.
For allegedly there was text
messages on his phone.
They do.
They weren't getting along.
They had had an argument.
But as of yesterday he has been
released.
Oh really?
There is no evidence to show
that he may or may not have
thrown his wife off the little
bug.
Gotcha.
The his the young lady who's
complaining is his stepdaughter,
not his biological daughter.
The lady's daughter.
They were married for over 26
years and she apparently did not
want to live on the boat
anymore.
But still there's no proof he
killed her and they let him go.
Is there a body?
Nope, not yet.
Nobody.
Nobody.
No murder.
Nobody.
No crying.
That's what they say in the
Bahamas.
Is that what they say?
So they say, man at the end man.
Nobody.
No crime, man.
Exactly.
OK, so he still cannot leave the
Bahamas, but they his lawyer
thinks he'll have that cleared
up by tomorrow.
Wow.
He can go do anything he wants.
He's all done.
OK.
Do you think he did it?
Yeah, I think he did it.
You do you think you think that
he was done?
26 years she goes, I don't want
to live in a boat anymore.
You suck.
And I guess they drank a lot
when they were on the boat.
So I had a lot of arguments.
And she said and he said, no
problem, you don't have to live.
On this boat anymore, let me hit
this big wave and.
Then did like a this is.
Sorry this is Sparta type of a
scenario just.
This is Sparta.
OK, what about you, Greg?
Do you think that he he?
Did he give a justifiable reason
why nobody can find the woman?
Unalived his wife.
While it was in the water, they
had been in town, they had a
nice evening or had an argument
or whatever it was.
I don't know and.
They those are two completely
different.
Things they could have gone
either way.
So they're taking the dinghy
back to their boat that's moored
out in the Bay or whatever it
was, the Cove, wherever it is.
And supposedly somewhere between
the beach and the boat, they hit
a Rogue Wave and she splashed
out and when he went to find
her, realized she had the life
vest on that pulled the cord for
the motor.
So the motor, you couldn't start
the motor, so he couldn't turn
around and go get her.
Oh boy.
So, yeah, so, So he killed her.
So eventually he paddled his way
to shore, found a phone, called
the authorities, but her body
has not been found.
So you so Greg, you think that
potentially this man unalived
his?
Wife.
It's very well possible I would
say.
Allegedly, yes.
Allegedly.
So I don't even think she had a
life vest on.
Well, it sounds like she did
because.
Well, that's his story.
Well, I mean, I mean that, yeah,
that's his story, 'cause I mean,
she had the life fest on.
They would find her eventually,
somewhere.
Especially if it's in like a
Bay.
We're not talking about open
ocean.
Right, so I mean she could have
been eaten by shark or something
I guess.
But then still I find pieces.
OK, very interesting.
Yes, OK.
So yeah, I mean, I think I
agree.
I think that things don't.
Things aren't lining up here in
my in my opinion.
But there is no proof.
Yeah, and if the glove don't
fit, you must quit.
Right.
I mean, they'll never get, I
mean unless they find her body
and there's a mark on the back
of her head like this, the ring
indentation of of his fist or
something and they'll never know
it's.
A pretty perfect crime.
I know.
Isn't it water?
Right Water that's.
Why Britney doesn't want to go
on a cruise?
Right.
Yeah, she's said that for years.
She's ready to throw her
overboard.
Yeah.
I don't have that story pulled
about the the local family where
the young lady was.
The teenager was killed and
thrown overboard on the cruise.
Oh yeah.
Is that what happened?
She was thrown overboard?
She was sexually assaulted or
something.
Like that by her stepbrother,
yeah.
Yeah, and they just convicted
him or something.
They just arrested.
Him a year later.
The father was not his father.
He's the mother's or the lady's
son.
He wants the full extent of the
law thrown at that young man.
I don't blame him at.
All Yeah, no kidding.
Sexually assaults his teenage
daughter and throws her off the
book.
Horrible.
Yeah, it's terrible.
OK.
Well, can we move to something a
little bit lighter?
Back to the hippos.
Back to the hippos.
There's no reports of them
eating people, but I'm sure
they're quite the nuisance in
the local village.
Yeah, absolutely.
OK, if you're 1 of Meta's 79,000
employees and cannot get a hold
of your boss, what do you do?
Hire somebody to talk to them.
That that makes sense.
Well, if you're the owner of
Facebook and Meta, you have AAI
Mark Zuckerberg made.
Talk to the robot.
Right the owner of Facebook and
Instagram reportedly working on
an AI version of Mark Zuckerberg
who can answer all your
questions.
The AI clone of Zuckerberg's
Meta founder and chief executive
is being trained on his
mannerisms and tone, as well as
public statements and thoughts
on the company's strategy.
So any question you have, I'm
sure a little video him comes up
on the screen.
Hey, what do you need Greg?
What's going on today?
It's.
Pretty smart actually.
You can train it to answer
questions the same way that you
would.
And I'm not talking about like
tone, but like thought process.
Right.
Yeah.
Is it like a video of him?
Is it actual video of?
Like the Pepsi guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, fired.
No, it does not say exactly what
the version.
I would imagine it's something
on the screen or I mean knowing
him it could be a 3D hologram
that.
Pops up very Star Warsy.
Or maybe just dial A phone
number and you get a voice on
the phone.
Hi, it's me, Mark.
Yeah, if it sounds just like
him, you wouldn't even know,
right?
They could not tell people.
But they chose to tell people.
It probably leaked, you know.
Yeah, you know, so many people
know.
You would think, yeah, that he
would have this all worked out
before the story leaked.
Right.
So Greg, so for stage, for phase
three of us integrating things
on on our wholesale site, we're
looking to implement an AI
version of you.
We just wanted to get your
opinion on are.
Are there some particular things
that you would like as far as
like quotes for people to say to
speak to you directly?
We intentionally don't allow me
to talk to people.
Why are we going to go out of
our way to have it?
Because, because, why not?
Because, you know, I think that
this is the next thing to do.
I think this is going to be
appropriate.
An AI, Greg, we can control.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's only certain things you'll
be allowed to say so.
So we wouldn't program it to
answer questions the way that I
would.
No, no, yeah.
No, no, no.
You can say say things like I
love doing the podcast.
You know, I have to go.
I'm doing the podcast now.
And I can't wait to do it.
I love you more.
Yeah, in case.
Your wife in case your wife
calls.
Yeah, yeah.
And then and then you know, and
then you just have a couple of
songs that you have that you can
just kind of break into.
Thanks me and more.
Yeah, yeah, like so the so the
retailer contacts us, says hey,
let me get let me get 5 San
Andreas Toro, let me get 3 San
Andreas Robusto and I need Greg
to sing to me and then all of a
sudden, boom, you start singing.
You know, it's a great.
Idea how much is this going to?
Cost.
We don't.
We don't worry about the.
Details.
Like we asked those questions.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's crazy.
So.
We never asked what things cost.
However, we to be honest though,
we have tested the we have
lightly tested an AI Palmer and
this is true.
Yep, that is true, yeah.
We have worked on an AI Palmer.
To speak on the phone.
Make phone calls.
Make phone calls.
Yeah, yeah.
Call Peoples.
We have been working on that
casually.
It it, you know, it, it, it
hasn't really developed.
We've kind of went a different
direction, but I think we should
revisit it.
We should make it part of.
Yeah.
I mean, I could hit the button
and it could call, you know?
Yeah, Hey, we're gonna have it
set up to the phone anyway.
Hey, this is Palmer and I'm
lonely.
I'm lonely.
That's.
What you said, Yeah.
What are you doing?
What are you doing right now?
What are you doing?
You wanna know what I'm wearing?
Yeah, just a hat.
I don't care if you're a 50 year
old man, that's fine by me.
Love is love, OK?
It was Preston Day.
He's a little a little worked
up.
I could tell, yeah, I'm a little
worked up.
It was Preston Day.
How does that make me worked up?
Well, excited.
Little amorous.
I'm always excited.
I'm excited.
I'm hitting this board.
Saying goodbye, I made sure my
back was through them.
I didn't want to say anything.
Paul was telling me that the
name of the show is like 4th
down with Preston or something
like that.
Four downs with Preston, Yeah.
And he said, like, there's so
many shows that start that way.
And I said why not call it
something that nobody would use,
like faking the field goal on
2nd down with Preston.
You know, it's not a bad idea
that that particular phrase
isn't role, but something like
that.
It's not a bad idea, right
Fumble.
I mean, it's a great, it's a
great name till you look and
find out there's a lot of people
thought it was a great name.
Right.
No, you're right.
Celebrities and non celebrities.
And maybe we change it.
There's there's some like
celebrities.
You know, like that Did it too,
Did they?
Yeah, I don't remember.
I can't even think of a football
celebrity's name.
OK, 4 Downs with Bob Greasy.
I don't know.
That's the only name came in
line.
Oh, OK.
And that's that you guys might
not even.
I have no idea who that is.
Bob Grasy.
Yeah, you're the less sports guy
than me.
You said that last episode.
Oh, Booty's giving an update
when he's going to.
Be here, we don't care.
We don't.
Care moving on 2/08?
All right, now we're in the
cigar news.
JC Newman announces new
distribution in France.
I see London.
I see France.
I see Jay Newman with no
underpass.
JC Newman Cigar Company is back
in France by the way of a new
distribution agreement with
Voltes ET Vitolez.
Voltes.
The agreement, which went to
effect on April 1st, brings the
company's Perla Del Mar, Natural
Shade, Maduro and Coroho lines
to France, along with the value
oriented Quorum lines.
Very nice my.
Family has had a love for France
for more than six years.
I think it was the first time
we've ever heard about it.
Yeah, no, he doesn't tell you
all the time when you run into
him, is it?
Oh, by the way, I love France.
No.
Never brings it up, never speaks
French.
Nothing.
I just don't think you're that
close with him.
Oh well, this is Drew.
I know, Bobby.
Oh, that makes sense.
Right, Drew Newman in a press
release.
In 1962, U.S.
President John F Kennedy made it
illegal for Americans to import
Cuban tobacco.
What's that have to do with
France?
Continue.
After that happened, France is
what saved our company.
Oh.
There you go.
Newman went on to say that
following the Cuban embargo, his
grandfather, Stanford Newman,
began traveling to Paris for for
three weeks each June to select
the finest Cameroon wrapper
tobacco leaves for the company's
cigars.
Oh, so Cameroon also comes our
friends.
Really, Stanford is a great
name.
Stanford.
That is a great name.
You could name your first child
Stanford.
Stanford Stefan Kevitch.
I'll love you for that long ass
name.
Yeah, Stanford.
Every letter in the alphabet
now.
The bastard child, Stanford.
You know what I mean, Stanford.
Call them Staffy for short.
Staffy the Bastie.
Staffy the Bastie.
Oh, that's not nice.
Well, wait, Yeah, well, OK.
So would this Cameroon tobacco
be from the Marfells but it was
just in France?
I don't think so, buddy.
No, no.
More importantly, Greg, I have a
question for you.
Do you think that this is a good
strategy for JC Newman to expand
into the French market with
their value cigars?
I think growing into any market
is a good idea, yeah.
Good, we have started putting
post on you in France.
This doesn't way for us to tell.
You it's not that easy.
Sure it is.
We call Vitolas Vitolala.
Vitolas Vitolala, yeah.
So that's the the other company
that imports.
Would you want to see Postonia
in other countries?
Well.
We've gotten requests for people
that have wanted it in like
Poland and stuff like that.
It's just that in order to do
it, I think the model involves
the broker basically buying the
goods for a lesser than
wholesale dollar so that they
can then make margin, then
shipping it out.
We're just not big enough to do
it.
Nor is there commitment for
purchase normally correct.
Not that I don't know.
Well, normally if they're going
to commit, they, they're, they
have to buy X amount for it to
be substantial.
And normally, if you go out of
your way to do all that, if
they're only buying 4050 boxes,
that's just not enough in order
for you to justify all that time
and energy for that purchase too
much.
Work.
Right.
OK.
Yeah, yeah.
What about you power?
Do you want to see BDP in
France?
No, there's no problem with it
here.
You committed to the translation
of what it is there into.
It's going to be worse.
Yeah, no, it translates to
French though, yeah.
They dig it.
They might be.
Yeah, we would like that here.
Give me the BDP.
Yeah, give me the BDP.
I like it.
The.
BDP Wow, I have to say it.
OK.
How about you, Michael?
Would you like to see Bustani in
a foreign country?
Man, thank you so much for
asking, Mike.
That's great.
Yeah.
You know, I think that I agree.
I agree.
I agree with Greg.
I agree with Greg.
I, you know, yes, I would love
to see distribution and it being
carried in other countries.
How I however, I would also like
to see a true commitment from
that distributor and not some
onesie twosie thing the guy's
got to pull with us.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
So yeah, your your analogy is
sweeping the cigar industry.
The pulling is continuing
forward, yes.
So, yeah, I mean, you know, you,
you have to find the right guy,
the right company that's going
to continue to grow and wants to
see you succeed as much as they
want to see themselves succeed.
And in in order to do that, you
really got to sift through a lot
of it.
So I don't know, I would love to
see it, but I haven't seen that
person yet.
I haven't run into them.
You know, most of the people
that are committed they're, they
only want to purchase a a few
boxes and that's just not
enough.
You're going to end up having to
make postonia rope and give for
swag and just have pieces of
rope you give people.
With a rock attached to it.
No, because then it's a weapon
you might get in trouble.
Yeah, so just give them, you
know, maybe a half a foot, 6 to
12 inches of rope and with a
Postonia tag hanging on.
Not enough where they can hurt
themselves.
Right, they can hang it on the
rearview mirror or something.
OK.
I'll get right on that.
All right.
Red meat lovers spicy beef stick
shipping in May Imagine if
Dunbar and Tobago and Truss took
the red meat lovers for Tonga
blend and put it in a beef stick
size.
What is the beef stick size?
Anybody know?
Is that Corona Gorda I believe?
Is that a Corona Gorda?
So he's making the fratanga and
a Corona Gorda and give it a new
name.
And that's, oh, perfect.
All right, moving on.
He's got you.
I saw.
I was reading this morning.
He's got 18 cigars coming out of
the show.
Does he?
There is a bunch of them, yeah.
OK, So let me ask you this.
Do you think that at some point
by releasing so many cigars
within an annual basis that
you're cannibalizing yourself?
Or does it make sense to do that
so that you have new releases
all the time, Mr. Palmer?
The meat stick, beef stick,
whatever is a 6 by 48 Toro.
It's not a Corona.
Well, 6 by 48.
Well, you call it a Toro.
Five and three quarter by 48.
That's practically Corona,
Gorda. 6 by 48 Toro vitola,
that's what you're talking
about.
Yesterday.
Everybody just calls whatever
they want.
Anymore.
Yeah, that's a thinner gauge,
right?
Maybe not quite.
A4 by 50, Toro, it's going to be
great, okay?
So do you think that releasing
18 cigars a year is the right
move, yes or no?
Didn't he release a lot last
year too?
Let me.
Answer the damn question.
I.
Want to know that answer that
one first.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
I don't remember what everybody
does.
I can't sit here and just fester
on individuals.
I don't have that kind of time.
He.
Is amped up today.
This is awesome.
This is good.
You know what?
Here's what you want to know.
What happened, What happened?
I'm going to tell you what
happened.
What happened.
I got a new sauna.
I got a new sauna yesterday.
I slept like a.
Baby.
Oh, your sauna?
Yeah.
Is it the same one that it's
like the one with your head out
so you can continue to smoke a
cigar?
No, no, that's infrared.
This one is dry heat legit 180°.
He's in a little tent with the
heat like a porthole.
Yeah.
So like that's that's like the
finish style, right Is like
legit 180° and infrared doesn't
get that.
No, mine doesn't get that hot
because it's infrared.
Correct.
Oh boy, and getting that hot is
better.
That that getting that hot is
way better for for your heart
and stuff like that, yeah.
I mean, over a year ago when we
discussed me getting the sauna
and you said that I should get
infrared.
Now there's something different.
Well, they didn't really.
Keep up, he keeps reading
different.
Books, yeah, you know that,
yeah.
You really got to keep up so.
We're not cold plunging anymore.
We are.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
We are still cold plunging.
Yeah, but not with the old man
at the gym.
Well, we we cold plunged.
He was an old man at the gym.
You used to get in with the old
naked guys at the gym.
Oh yeah, yeah, it got too weird.
Are you eating the cereal?
No cereal's been gone for years.
See, that's what I mean.
Things.
Things change things.
Change I I want to hear the
science behind this 'cause now I
apparently have to throw out my
infrared sauna.
OK.
Yeah.
So no, I mean infrared sauna's
still good.
There's still a lot of good
positives for it.
However, it's it's more it's
also more muscular oriented than
it is heart.
The whole purpose that I
acquired this thing was for my
heart.
OK, so like that, so don't get
anymore.
So you know the, you know, like
the like so you you could get a
sauna, like a finished sauna.
Like they're usually those big
barrels that you can go into.
Yeah.
So those are the most ideal
'cause they get the hottest.
That.
That's with Steam though, isn't
it?
Yeah, well, that one can be
steam based, Yeah, but
realistically the dry heat is,
you know, you want it to be up
to 170 to 180 a 190° something
cooking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So.
Like being on a microwave.
It is, yeah.
And yeah, man, I'm going to tell
you.
How long in $1.80 a buck 90 are
you sitting in there?
20-30 minutes. 20-30, yeah.
So it's the same that I'm doing
in mine, only it's significantly
hotter.
Let me ask you, are you still
doing yours?
Really.
Yeah, I really am.
How often are you doing it?
I try to do it five days a week.
This week I've only been able to
do it once, which is yesterday.
I don't do it on the weekends.
So you're trying to do a fine,
but you're only just Yeah,
because.
Yesterday was Monday.
I don't do it on Saturday and
Sunday.
You said this week.
How?
Many.
You do last week 3, So you're
trying to do 5, but you went to
three.
Yeah.
All right.
And what about the week before?
Probably about the same.
OK, so we've never hit five
then?
No, the week.
Before that, we're.
Aiming we're aiming for.
Five.
No, the week before that was.
Five he aims for five he gets 3.
So, so one out of four weeks, we
achieve our goal.
Yeah.
So you're.
Something's better than nothing.
So you're 25% that's.
What you're saying something's
better than nothing?
Your family's gone.
What are you doing at home by
yourself where you don't have
time to lounge in a sauna?
Yeah, well, first of.
All I haven't been leaving the
shop until like 8:00 at night
over the past couple days just.
You've got so much to do, what's
8 till 2 when you go?
To I love the Directions
podcast.
Gone.
Go home, feed the dogs, eat
something and go to bed.
Cry myself to sleep, cry myself,
have myself a good cry and you
know, OK, so yeah.
My wife's pajamas on the bed by
your pillow and.
So this is the first like kind
of affordable sauna that I came
across that was dry heat at 100
and. 80° the big barrel is like
3 to 10.
Grand Yeah, no, this is this is
like.
What is considered affordable?
300 bucks.
He lives in a different
neighborhood than I do.
That's not too bad.
No, for what it is, it's not.
Well, here's what I'm going to
tell you, man, because I'm, I'm
extremely worried about my
heart, right?
Because genetically speaking, we
got a pretty bad track record,
right between my father and my
aunt, you know?
So yeah, I like 300 bucks for
me, a $300 investment and trying
to make sure that I'm healthier.
I'm in SO.
Well, I wouldn't have a problem
with it.
Not that I promised your money.
I appreciate that.
I mean, I'm indent up to my
eyeballs, but we were kidding.
Right.
You change these things that
you're trying and it just seems
like it, you know, it's the next
thing in line.
So maybe six months from now
you're like, that wasn't, that's
no good.
And.
Then it's $300 on fire is what
he's saying right?
That's not the $300 is a lot of
money.
It's $300.00 for a short period
of time.
Right.
OK, OK, I'm going to play this
game with you.
That's just fun.
OK, So what is it that I have
abandoned that I that I invested
A tremendous amount of money on
as?
Far as maybe not a tremendous
amount of money, but wasn't
there some type of squat rack or
something at your house?
A squat rack.
Yeah, or a row machine.
A row machine?
Yes, there.
Yes, there was a row machine at
one point and there was there
was a was there a cage?
I don't.
There might have been a cage,
yes.
There was a there was a bag
sauna too.
OK, that was.
Yeah, the bag sauna put your
head in.
I think you had to get two of
those because 1 broke.
I still have that one and I
still use it, it's just that
it's dying.
I don't know if this counts, but
he had an inflatable pool on his
patio once.
It was like one of those
inflatable hot tub things.
Yeah.
That was pretty good.
Is that there anymore?
No, because that didn't work
well.
Oh, how about the that that
killer bike or whatever that
thing was called?
I still have the killer bike.
I still use the killer bike
every once in a while.
So then it's just the the, the
rack and the.
Don't you also have those
adjustable dumbbells that that
you can like?
I still have the adjustable
dumbbells, No.
So the reason why you guys use
those No.
OK, but here here's my here's my
logic from from the cage, the
rower and the and the dumbbells.
Those three things, those three
things were purchased during
COVID.
The whole reason for having
those things is because I needed
to work out at home because I
couldn't work out at the gym.
I go to the gym, I work out, so
is I, you know, I just.
Ask for examples so we.
Give examples and I'm just, I'm
trying to explain to you that
what you're saying isn't valid.
I don't just move on to
something for like, oh, we don't
do that anymore.
That's not the case 'cause I
still cold plunge, my cold
plunge broke.
You use the one in the garage.
Yeah, well, it's.
Broken.
It's broken.
Now it doesn't work anymore.
How long has it been?
Broken about a month.
So then no times out of each
week where it's supposed to be
5, you go to the cold plunge.
First of all, I don't go five
times.
I think 5 is obnoxious.
Whoever has that kind of a goal
is.
Ridiculous.
How many would be like 3?
I would say three.
Yeah.
Great.
OK.
Yeah, yeah.
So, so not even 20% well.
Unfortunately, unfortunately I
don't have an unlimited budget
like you and I had to make a
decision as to what I could
purchase.
Unlimited budget.
I paid $200 and a box of cigars
for my sauna.
Well, there's a difference
between having an unlimited
budget and being a cheap
bastard.
You're a cheap bastard with an
unlimited budget.
There's you know what I mean.
There's you're both of those
things.
You know you could have easily
boughten.
The $3000 on.
It the finished barrel I.
Was not going to do that, yeah.
Exactly cash.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, hold on.
Let me see what I got in my left
pocket here.
Oh yeah, no, I can cover that.
No, I.
I can cover that.
Hold on, let me peel a couple of
bills off of wad.
Left pocket's not my money.
Yeah, no.
Meanwhile, the right pocket is
my money.
Meanwhile, I'm rifling through.
Credit, I think he said it right
first time.
Yeah, exactly.
Meanwhile I'm rifling through
credit card saying can't use
that one.
Nope, don't use that one.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, this will
work.
This will work.
So.
And that's to cover lunch.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's like, oh shit, what?
We have McDonald's, OK?
Oh God.
Oh God, which one do I use?
We're going to have to split the
fries, kids.
Everybody gets 2 fries.
OK, here we go.
Here we are.
So you must be cooked at 30
minutes at 180 to a. 100 Oh,
that's great.
Because it's great.
I'm done at 1:25. 1/30 at 20 to
30 minutes.
I'm going to say right now it
was really good.
Like I used it once, it came in
yesterday, so I'm going to use
it again tonight.
And then you're you go and you
shower, you go right to bed
because that's the way that I
feel after.
No, I don't shower and go right
to bed, but what I do is I go in
a shower cold, freeze in cold
water and then I go out on the
patio and usually pass out
there.
Isn't that a a jolt to your
heart to go from the heat to the
cold just like that?
Do you mean like shock?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's got to be good.
They can't be good if you've got
a weak heart.
No, it's got to be good.
I don't think I have a weak
heart.
I'm making sure that I don't get
a weak heart, you know what I'm
saying?
All right, OK.
You're not, you're not bringing
that thing to PCA area, your
tent, your tent sauna.
What do you mean?
Well, those rooms are a little
tight like it is, and we're
going to have pop up a tent in
the middle of it.
Maybe.
You could record the podcast
while he's in.
It you'll get the microphone all
sweaty.
Oh, that sounds fantastic.
After video through the
porthole.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, moving on.
JC Newman, French.
Congratulations.
All right, Saint Louis mayor
signs the bill allowing for PCA
trade show.
We don't.
Do we care though?
I mean, let's.
Let's well, it's, it's it's
going to be what, 1234?
It'll be 5 years from now.
I won't never see a trade show
in Saint Louis.
You don't think?
You're going to make it in five
years.
Five years, five years, five
years.
No way dude.
Come on bro, how old are you?
It'll be 54 this year.
OK.
So you're talking about under
60?
60 yeah, I'm at 60s this is my
target I just.
Want you to know, we're going to
go around PCA and we're going to
ask specific people how old they
are.
How old are you right?
Well, they have to do with
anybody.
I bet you Newman's probably like
110.
Stafford.
Stafford's still rocking it.
It's.
A great name.
Well, Mayor Cara Spencer signed
into law an ordinance that would
clear the way for the city to
host the PCA convention.
A trade show.
Let's see where there's a list
here of the dates.
We don't care who voted 2030.
OK.
So it's in four years.
Four years from now, the
organization has already
announced the location of the
next 4 trade shows.
There we go.
We're doing New Orleans and then
we're doing Vegas.
Vegas and then New Orleans
again.
Yes, that's late 50s, so we
don't have that confirmed is
what you're saying to me.
That they're going to do it.
No, they've just cleared the way
to do it.
They're also talking to Tampa
and Miami.
Geographically, it's
interesting.
It's like the most northern
location I've ever seen since
we've been in the cigar industry
for the show.
To have the show, yeah.
I think they're just looking for
other optional places.
Everybody gets tired of going to
the same places all the time.
Yeah, I agree.
Well, you know.
I haven't heard a lot of good
things from people about New
Orleans from last year.
I I've heard good things about
New Orleans.
Oh, I haven't.
You know, here's the reality.
The reality is that people are
always going to complain.
There's always going to be
people saying, oh, well, you
know, I should have did this,
you know, you could have done
and blah, blah.
And the hard part, I think as a,
as a person that's running the
PCA is of the advice that's
given to you, the unsolicited
advice that's given to you,
which of it actually has any
holds any weight, right?
Because if you're going to
complain about your hotel
sucking, then get a different
hotel.
If you're I don't know how you
complain about the food in New
Orleans.
The food there's pretty good.
The location isn't bad.
I don't think that it's
terrible.
Do I think that it should be in
other places?
100%.
I would love to see it in Tampa.
You know, I didn't even mind it
in in Orlando.
I just hated the fact that that
one guy is so heavily involved
in it that you know, and he's an
ass.
So you know.
Not Miami.
OK, maybe, maybe Miami.
I don't know.
I wouldn't be against Texas.
Where would you want to see the
PCA?
Greg, let's go there.
I.
Think Texas is a great idea.
I think geographically it's
easiest for people to get to
where it's located as far as the
nation.
You know, I want, I want to see
them shorten it, to be honest
with you.
I, I'd like to see, you know, a
Friday, Saturday, and then 1/2
day on Sunday be done.
That way.
I think you would wind up
getting more retailers to come
out because so many of these
shops are ran by one man show
and it's very, very hard for
them to wind up taking off
multiple days.
If you can get in and out on a
weekend, you'll wind up seeing
more retailers come.
Out I think a lot of those
people still complaining they
don't come regardless because
realistically you don't have to
commit to the whole 3 days.
You could still come out and
just do one day.
I don't know if that that whole
we're going to cut it short for
that purpose transpires.
Well, I do agree with you in the
fact that maybe it could be a
little bit shorter.
I also don't like the fact that
it is Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
That makes no sense to me.
I think if it was Tuesday,
Wednesday, Thursday, and then
people could then spend Friday,
Saturday, Sunday, wherever they
are, they can bring their family
or whatever.
That would make more sense to me
than having it on the days that
they're having it.
So, you know, that's just my
kind of food for thought.
Where, what do you, where would
you want to see a Palmer?
Where would you want to see PCA?
Well, they're saying Tampa, the
Convention Center is too small.
We wouldn't fit us all.
So that's why Tampa's on the
list.
And Miami, I think they're
complaining about the traffic.
But you're right, people, I
mean, no matter where you have
it, somebody's going to have a
better idea, right?
People in the middle one Memphis
or Nashville and.
OK.
But I need you to stay on topic
here.
Where would you want to stay?
Where would information you
didn't have?
You gave me the PCA.
I think Texas would be good.
I'd like Texas.
OK.
Where in Texas?
Dallas, Austin, either one of
those are good.
OK.
If if not Florida, I'd love to
have it in Florida somewhere.
Yeah.
I don't think the Convention
Center in Orlando is going to
let anybody smoke inside.
Of it, no, they don't, I don't
think.
So we'd have to be outside.
Well, they did.
Many, many years ago we went to
a convention.
Center, yeah, that was.
They're the big nice new
Convention Center over.
There.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I think Deltona would be the
best.
The at the.
Center of the cigar world.
Well, you know.
We can have it over at the
center, which is, you know, the
place, the city.
Uses.
Yeah, well, we just have.
Why don't we just have it
Outback?
You know, let's screw it.
Outback here.
Yeah, it was great.
Some tents, sure.
This could be the VIP area,
right?
Yeah, we just, Yeah, only like 5
people in here.
Whoa, whoa.
Guy Fieri, right?
You let Guy Fieri in Jack,
Toronto to guard Guy Fieri,
that's two.
Eric to take pictures with Guy
Fieri.
That's three.
Basically the Espinosa crew and
that's it.
So then we'll put Skip in here,
but he won't hang out.
He'll be like, Oh yeah.
Yeah, he won't hang out.
Yeah, it's too smoky.
Yeah, it's too smoky here.
So do you see Guy Fieri's video
on social media about come Come
the PCA?
Yeah, yeah, Tight shirt he's
wearing, huh?
He said it started on Friday.
Yeah, April 17th, right.
You think that he would have
somebody around him to kind of
guide him into the right
answers.
You know, like you.
Know at least they send him the
right if.
Only there was a person that
said, hey, we just saw the video
and that was wrong.
And it starts we need you.
But I think Friday is the
opening event or something like
that, isn't it?
Yeah, it is.
And then they have like those
classes and stuff that they do,
they teach you about credit card
processing and legislation and
all that.
As well, PCA has a big party
that night.
Yeah, so I take back everything
that I said.
It's completely wrong.
Guy Fury is right, April. 17th
And kudos to him to being like
one of the very, very few
celebrities that have a cigar
that actually put in the work.
He's the only one who's the only
one.
He's the only one.
OK, the only one.
Who else?
Damon Wayans has two new cigars
coming out at the show and he is
instead of squat.
Yeah, yeah, Damon.
And so does UFC fighter Irish
guy Conor McGregor.
Yeah, he's got 2 new cigars
coming out too.
Yeah, OK.
We may or may not be covering
one of those stories today, I
don't remember.
Perfect.
All right, well, let's get on
the next, the next episode.
The next.
The next episode of The Price is
Right OK, an American themed
opus is going to be available at
the PCA.
Oh, is it?
Going to come with a bald eagle.
It is red, white and blue.
I don't believe there is a bald
eagle.
Is it to come with AAR 15?
I don't know.
I doubt it very serious.
I doubt that.
This year marks the 250
anniversary of the United States
and there will be a new Opus X
To honor the milestone, Reyes
International, the American
distributor of Ellie Blue,
posted a picture of 4
accessories featuring a new
color way that incorporates the
American flag into the Fuente
Fuente Opus X logo.
So it's Ellie Blue, so let's see
if we get to the price here.
He loves these big.
They're making 76 humors.
Big money.
Each come with 76 cigars in
various places Of the
accessories, it says United we
stand.
Oh, oh, we have a Carlito quote.
Hold on, America.
Yeah.
United we stand.
When asked about the new
project, Carlos Colito Fuente,
chairman of Arturo Fuente,
declined.
Oh.
He declined to comment.
I'm not talking about this.
Oh, all right.
The new project expected.
Oh, no pricing.
They haven't decided yet.
How much you think, Greg?
How much you?
Think 7K.
Silver 76 cigars, Ellie Blue
with the humi.
That doesn't even cover the you
think. 12.
I think more.
Money, I think 12 to 12 to 18.
Yeah, I think it's, I think it's
a $10,000 project minimum.
A lot of scratch.
That's a lot of bones, man.
Michael's ordered 2 for the
show.
Yeah, we actually have 3 coming
you.
Can do that three you opted.
Wow.
Yeah, one for personal use
inside is sauna. 1 is a giveaway
at the event.
Yeah, one for a giveaway.
I'm gonna give, we're gonna give
one away the.
Other one will just sit there
for five years.
And then we're gonna sit on one
of them.
I'll put it up next to the the
Fuente Pedrone.
Collection.
Some of those lately there's.
I know there's.
Like 10 cigars left.
Yeah, we're gonna or someone's
been stealing them.
We're gonna 5X we're going to
find.
Run a report later.
Yeah, I say, oh, I got, oh, I
got to check that out.
Oh, we could be right.
I got to look.
We're going to, we're going to,
you know what, we're going to 6X
the price for that, for those
Opus and we'll just sit on them
for how much are these $1700
each a piece?
Looking forward to that.
OK, I, you know, I'm, I'm to be
honest, all joking aside, I'm
kind of curious to see the band
on this thing.
I bet you it's going to look bad
ass.
There's a picture on on half
wheel.
Oh, is there?
Yes.
OK, I'll look.
I'll go look.
Oh, look at this, Conor
McGregor's Notorious cigars.
He's adding Unapologenic and
Creme de la Creme this summer.
OK, do.
You think the Creme de la Creme
is a flavour together?
No, probably a Connecticut.
I think that Unapologetic is
tracks.
I don't know what the hell Creme
de la Creme kind of links into
there.
It doesn't even make any sense.
It's not even on brand.
The creme of the.
The cream of the cream.
The cream to the top of the the
best of the best.
The cream of the cream.
He's not even the best of the
best.
He's he's up there, but he's not
best of the best.
If it was the Jon Bones Jones
cigar, then it'd be the best of
the best.
John Paul Jones.
Yeah, no, not John Paul.
That's his brother, Jon Bones
Jones.
Oh, Jon Bones.
Jones, Jon.
Bones Jones.
Say I think John Paul Jones was
some patriot or something during
the Revolutionary.
Was he?
Right Unapologetic is a medium
to full body profile.
Uses AUS grown Connecticut
Broadleaf wrapper and Ecuadorian
Sumatra binder and fillers from
the Dominican Republic,
Nicaragua and the US.
The company calls it bold and
unapologetically rich.
Unapologetic.
Yes.
Not unapologetically.
It's not a it's not pollen.
It's pollen.
No, it's not quite spelled.
It's not.
It's not.
POLLLEN.
Yeah, unapolen.
Legitic.
So he's making a six and a
quarter by 46, OK.
He's making a 6 by 50 OK and a 6
1/2 by 54 all toros.
OK all toros.
Oh, and a six by 60?
That's a super.
Toro.
Also a Toro.
Super Toro.
Toro.
Creme de la Creme is a medium
intensity profile offering
espresso, dark chocolate,
roasted nuts and earthy spice,
according to its company.
He uses an Ecuadorian
Connecticut Shade wrapper and a
Brazilian at a Baraca binder and
fillers from Nicaragua, the
Dominican Republic and Colombia.
I love how he says I reparaca he
hates.
How he's saying I'm sorry I'm a
white guy so often in 4 sizes.
It's a 5 by 50 Oh, these are all
small ones.
It's a 5 by 50 robusto A5 and
three quarter robusto A6 by 52
Toro.
Oh fine, a legit size Toro OK
and a. 6 by 60.
A double Churchill 7 by 54.
A A 7 by 54 robusto.
Both lines are made at the MJ
Frees factory in Santiago,
Dominican Republic.
I can hear you scratching.
Stop.
Sorry, I had an itch.
Just deal with the itch.
And they're scheduled to ship
during the first week of June.
They will be on display during
the 2026 PCA Convention trade
show, 18th of the 20th in New
Orleans.
So are you excited to meet Conor
McGregor at PCA?
Nothing says he will be there.
OK.
Are you excited to meet Conor
McGregor, Greg at PCA?
I wouldn't be, but I don't think
that he's going to be there
either.
OK.
I also don't think that Conor
McGregor is going to be APCA.
If he was, would you be excited
to meet?
Him.
Do that standard pose with him.
Like everybody, I.
Don't think I would do the you
know, I'm not that guy.
I'm not that hey, let's get a
photo guy, but it'd be cool to
meet him.
It'd be cool to meet him have.
Him Call your kids.
You like to have them call your
children.
Yeah, I'd do that.
I'm like, hey here, just say hi
to this guy.
Yeah, FaceTime myself.
Yeah, he says hi.
Did you see him in Roadhouse?
Do you see the I did?
Oh, that's where he was the
villain in.
It he did, he wasn't acting at
all.
Terrible, terrible actor.
No, it wasn't.
Oh, was that him in real?
Life.
Yeah, that's him in real life
yeah.
Edgy on all kinds of things,
just.
Crankin, There's a good name for
a cigar.
Crankin, Crankin, the notorious
Crankin that's better than Creme
de la Creme.
That's the cream of the cream of
the.
Cream.
I get it.
Thank you.
Hey, you know what?
It's out of paraca.
Marlon Wayans is making a couple
of days ago OK, Liga Trident,
adding Rosado Churchill in
Connecticut Robusto.
So he's making a big and a
little OK.
The Liga Trident, the cigar that
started by actor and comedian
Wayne Marlon Wayans, will be
unveiling 2 new cigars at PCA
convention at trade show the
18th to the 20th.
OK, I think I mentioned that on
every everything.
Well that's good.
First that was the League of
Trident Rosado Churchill, a 7 by
46 vitola, which uses a Rosado,
a squirrel wrapper and a Creolo
98 binder.
And then fillers from Colombia
and Habano seed varietal.
Excellent.
Aside from the Colombian filler,
the company has not yet
disclosed the countries of
origin of the leaves and it's
blend pricing is set at
Gentlemen for Mr. Wayne's new
cigar.
You want me to go first?
You can go first $16. $14.00.
$16.00 Six set up the sparklers.
Sparklers.
On the sparklers we don't have
any.
Fuel.
That's right.
They don't work.
They don't work anything.
Yeah, the person I bought them
from is very shady.
A refund shyster.
You'll never use up all this.
Stuff in there, yeah.
That'll be fine.
It'll go for years.
It's gonna go forever.
Meanwhile, meanwhile back at the
Fort like Nope, not not not.
It's not working anymore I.
Can't believe you guys went
through it all.
Yeah.
We set.
It off.
Twice we set it legit set it up.
You must have been like playing
with it extensively.
No, no, no.
You did testing it more than we
did for the actual.
He's like, you gotta clean.
It just blows out all the shit
out of there.
I'm like, no, OK, we cleaned it.
We kept cleaning it and stuff
because we're flying all over
the place.
I sweep up every time we.
It is shit.
It makes a mess.
It's stuff all over the chair,
it's all over the floor.
It's.
Great.
We love, I hate these things.
Thank you so much.
Great.
Thank you.
Yeah, well, you didn't tell us
all this other stuff.
Yeah.
You didn't disclose that?
It's like buying a car and you
find it doesn't.
Work how you gonna work?
He does that all the time.
There's a key fee.
There's a key fee, Yeah.
How you gonna do the key?
Yeah.
There's a fuel fee.
You gotta buy the fuel.
OK, so Palmer, are you excited
to meet Marlon Wayans at PCA It?
Says nothing about him being.
There.
Oh, so he's not going to be OK.
Got it.
He's not going.
Greg, are you excited to meet
Marlon Wayans at PCA?
Just say, yeah, I don't think
he'll be there, but I might have
been more excited to meet him
than I would Conor McGregor.
You would be more excited to
meet Marlon Wayans?
Yeah, I think so.
OK, why is that?
I think that I've probably been
exposed to more of him than
Conor McGregor.
OK, I didn't say that I'd be
excited.
I would be more excited than
Conor McGregor.
OK.
You so still not excited?
Still not excited, but it would
be a level slightly above.
Nothing but an elevated
excitement.
Yeah, but not excited.
But not excited.
Got it.
OK.
If there was a room that he was
going to be in, any of these
guys were going to be in, where
I can just walk up and say hi
like he's a regular person, then
OK, But I'm not waiting in line
to talk to anybody.
You know, I think that there
should be a rule here, to be
honest.
I think that the reality is if
you're a a celebrity and you're
going to release a cigar at PCA
and you're not attending, it's
not permitted.
It shouldn't happen.
You're not allowed to release
it.
Like David Ortiz sat there and
he did, you know, and he took
the pictures and he did his
whole yada, yada, Right.
So I think that that's how we
should look at this.
Oh, oh, Marlon Wayne's really.
OK, cool.
Are you going to are you going
to attend?
OK, great.
I mean, there should be some
exceptions to that rule.
It's like something happens or
you have a a specific
commitment.
But the reality is that a lot of
these guys are just looking to
make a quick buck.
And what happens is the brands
don't sell.
So how do you feel about that,
Palmer?
Do you think that these
celebrities should be attending
the PCAI?
Think they should?
Yeah, and like more longer than
than an hour long of like Mike
Tyson is in and Mike Tyson has.
Left the bed.
That was the one I was thinking
of too.
Mike Tyson.
Mike Tyson is here and Mike
Tyson's taking shit and now?
He's going to left the building.
Yeah, that was crazy.
You should.
Don't come stand in line.
Yeah, we need a serious like a a
commitment, you know what I
mean?
Help this help the industry a
little.
Bit right?
See, I like Guy Fieri because we
don't have to wait in line.
Yeah, that dude, I mean that
guy, he's unbelievable.
Right, we just get to walk up.
What's up?
What's up, guy?
Hey guy, how you doing?
Thanks for the phone call.
OK, what do you think, Greg?
Do you think celebrities should
be required to be at PCA if
they're releasing a cigar at the
show?
I think it's a great idea.
I think that because they're
actually selling their name more
than they are selling a cigar,
right, Right.
That's, that's really what the
the the ticket is, right?
I agree.
Do you think that Joshua
Hoburski is a large enough man
to be an enforcer for something
like this, where he, like,
walked into a room and people
would be like, OK, I got to
respect this guy.
I got to listen to those rules.
Is this because he's not very
tall?
Correct, that's exactly what.
I'm he's going to come see us in
three days.
I know.
Well, you're the one that
addressed his height the first
time you saw him.
Well, I know I was surprised.
It's it caught me by surprise.
Oh look, you're so tiny.
You know, what's so funny is
like you, you look at you look
at his Instagram posts, I'm
like, he looks like a boss.
You know what I mean?
He's he takes some good photos.
He does a great job of that.
So, you know, I can understand
how you got that, you know, like
mixed up in your brain like like
he was, he's such a commanding
presence.
I think that if you sent like
the right kind of if you sent
the right photo and a threat to
a celebrity, then maybe it would
be it would be properly.
That space-time from the
shoulders.
Up, Yeah, hey, man, right yeah.
And then maybe like have like
prison bars or something behind
him or something so that he
looked like really kind of
intimidating.
Shoot a point of view so
everything looks smaller behind.
Him, yeah, something like maybe
he's at the gun range or.
Something dead hippo behind him.
Yes, he's eating a hippo steak.
This is my Colombian hippo.
This is my cocaine.
Hippo that I just acquired.
I just wrote it in and then
killed it.
And by the way, you'll be
attending the PCA if you're
going to release that cigar.
Yeah, I think that's yes.
OK.
So.
So they have to come for all
three days.
What is the time that they need
to be there?
That's a great that is a great
question.
What is the time?
2 day one, day 2 minimum.
Day three is up to you.
Day one, Day 2.
You got to attend both days.
Or they come to day three to get
more people to come.
Or force them to arrive.
Yes, Michael.
All celebrities will be here on
day three.
Yeah, Plan your meetings
accordingly.
Or just pepper them across.
They want to do the three, you
know.
That one guy shows up every year
from now.
You can't go, he says in that
movie.
Paul.
I can't remember his name, a
picture that's.
A Tory or something like that?
Yeah, I know who you're talking
about.
Yeah, I mean, he's like 700
years old.
Yeah.
So there you go.
There's that's evidence, proof
number one of an older person
that will survive at PCA and you
can do it too.
Yeah, he does show up.
You are correct.
Yeah, he's here.
Yeah.
Oh, I wonder if the guy from
Karate Kids going to be there.
He put out a cigar last year.
Ralph Macchio No.
No, no the.
Cobra Kai guy.
Yeah, I don't know.
The last one he did like he bit
somebody or something and that
was.
At PCA.
Yeah, then he bite.
No, it wasn't apca something
else.
It was like a A.
Person bite somebody.
I don't know.
You have to.
We I think we covered this.
That he bit I remember covering
a story about his cigars.
I don't remember.
Covering that, yeah, I think he
bit somebody.
Wow.
OK, maybe he doesn't come.
Sweep the leg, Johnny.
Sweep the leg.
Bite the face, Johnny.
OK, so carry on Next.
What else?
We're already at an hour here.
Greg's got a lot of things to
do.
Dime for the industry's favorite
game.
What's the score?
Right today's Cigar, March 19th,
2015, reviewed by Mr. Brooks
Whittington.
It's an agonorsa leaf cigar.
The junior lunatic.
Mambo, mambo, mambo.
Just mambo, mambo.
Mambo, mambo mambo.
Mimi means yeah, Mimi, Mimi ha
ha ha.
No one understands that, Greg,
except me and you, if you.
Understand.
Was that the first bit the the.
First bit, Yeah, I tell you, I
tell you the cigar, this is the.
1st, 1st, 3rd of information.
That's it that we've got so far.
Correct.
All right, now it's time to to
think about what the score.
Was first quarter, there's four,
there's four, there's 4
sections.
You you would think for all the
times that I've been on the
show, I would know that.
OK.
So score, you're kind of our
guest kind of.
So you want me to go first?
Yes.
You're like our Joan Rivers or
the Johnny Carson.
OK.
Sometimes you're my Oprah.
I'm going to go 86.
I'm going to go 87.
JFR Lunatic mambo from
Nicaragua.
Tabaco mambo What?
Mambo.
Mambo Mexican San Andreas rapper
Nicaraguan binder filler from
Nicaragua.
It's an 8 by 80.
Oh good Lord, I thought it was
going to be one of those big.
Ones Bella Coso Gordo they
smoked 2 because of the unusual
size.
I'm going to hold fast here at
86.
I'm going to go 85.
Clue #1 The sheer presence of
the cigar is impressive right
out of the gate.
Dark, rich wrapper with minimal
veins and a unique Bellicoso
cap, it's still a cigar.
Construction overall holds up
well too, with a consistently
firm draw and surprisingly solid
burn for something this large.
Still talking about a cigar?
Very positive.
I like the big one.
It's very veiny.
I like the veiny.
This is that it.
That's it.
Now you go to scores. 86 I'm.
Going to go back to 87.
He's trying to poker me again.
He's looking at me every time he
do it.
He's going to read you.
Smoke output it.
See, the problem is I don't know
what the answer is at the.
Moment we forgot it at this.
Point.
We forgot it at this point.
He has a very small brain.
Smoke output is outstanding and
the cigar delivers a long
evolving experience with
strength building nicely from
mild to medium.
Full notes of coffee, earth,
leather, and a subtle sweetness.
Keep it engaging throughout the
entire very long in parentheses
smoke.
Wow. 8688 is going up is going
up, ladies and gentlemen.
Third clue The massive size
works against it.
Awkward to handle and smoke with
a fairly one-dimensional flavor
profile that doesn't develop
much beyond tobacco and earth.
Add in flaky ash and it can take
away from the overall enjoyment
despite solid construction. 86.
87.
Final thought, there is no
getting around the fact that
this is an enormous cigar, and
as such there are some issues
that don't come up with smaller
vitolas.
The main problem I had was
getting the delicate balance of
smoking too much quickly in
order to keep the large amount
of tobacco lit, but not smoking
so fast also, or as not smoking
so fast as to turn what flavors
it actually does have into a
bitter mess.
The profile is extremely
monotonous, but not offensive in
any way, and while the burn was
never better than fair, the draw
was excellent on both samples I
smoked.
I'm not going to say you have to
be a lunatic to smoke one, but
you sure have to really want a
combination of overwhelming size
along with overwhelming flavor
and have almost 4 hours to kill.
Now you do the final score.
Final score.
Unless you want to guess how
long you took him to smoke.
No, no, no.
The team money wants, but it's
kind of over now because I just
said it.
So yeah, I'm going to guess 4
hours.
Oh, you win.
Oh wait, no, it's part of the
game.
Sorry.
I'm going.
It's my.
Stand alone game.
I'm going to go 80.
Let me see his face. 80
Scratching.
His nose.
What score is 80O80O80-O?
I'm going to go 84.
That's what I was going to go.
And pick something up.
Don't signal him, Palmer.
What?
Don't you signal him?
I didn't say anything. 83.
He went the right way. 73 Wow,
he was cranky after the four.
Hours.
Sometimes it may be good, but
sometimes it may be shit.
Uh huh.
OK.
No fireworks. 73 fireworks.
Only when he wins.
Yeah, well, not and not even
when I win at this point, not
anymore.
Thank you very much for that,
Greg.
That was very.
Nice.
Yes, thank you.
Took our money and just left.
You haven't paid yet.
Yeah, we haven't.
Paid, I know.
Not, did not.
Do we get the fuel?
Is this still under warranty
because I have some questions.
OK.
Where are we going to be, Mr.
Palmer?
We're going to be at the PCA,
yeah, for the next 7 days.
Yay, yay.
So it comes in, it's in New
Orleans.
April 18th or 20th. 17th.
We'll be there 17th with Guy
Fieri hanging out, having some
oysters, yes.
Sure.
OK, We're gonna have oysters,
Gregory.
We're not going to have one
restaurant again this year.
We went to last year that nobody
got food but Michael.
He did not get his food.
Yeah, I didn't.
I didn't get my food.
Yeah.
Somebody got food.
Everybody got first, Mike got
his plate, then he waited for
everybody, and then when it came
time for him to eat it, it was
like just.
Fucked up cold, right?
Yeah, so he had to get another
one.
Maybe there was a total of like
3 plates you wound up getting
that evening.
That was a rough, that was a
rough one.
Yeah.
I judged.
I judged the server by my water.
Your water stays full.
Yeah, I judged by the server, by
my water, you know, because
that's the type at that point.
I know, I know what we're
dealing with here, right.
Because if they, if you're
drinking beer, you're having
some of those stuff like they
want to stay on top of that to
keep, keep the tab going.
But the water's just the water.
And they're like, yeah, screw
this guy.
And they're like, well, this
guy's the guy's paying, so you
might want to give me some
water.
Like there, there are times when
I'm where we're out to dinner
with, when I'm having dinner
with pretty and she knows
exactly what I'm doing.
She goes so look at the water,
like, you know, or the guy's on
top and I'm like, look, look,
you know, or the person's just
totally ignoring it, like, oh,
this isn't good.
This isn't going to be good.
Yeah.
That's a good metric, Yeah, I
like that.
I was at a restaurant outside of
DC-1 time and every time I took
a sip the guy came and filled up
the water.
That's pretty impressive.
To the point where I didn't want
to drink.
Any more water, It was too much
it.
Was.
Yeah, it was too much.
Yeah, that's like the hands guy
in Was it Mr. Deeds?
Oh please excuse my sneakiness.
Sneak in with the water.
Steve.
Steve's getting angry.
Is no one cause the only people
that can respond the orders are
on this podcast.
Yeah, all three of us are ready.
He's going.
Hello.
OK, well, hey, listen, we look
forward to to to seeing
everybody out at the show and
check out tomorrow's episode
could be a dumpster fire, but
we're going to do it anyways.
So thank you everybody for your
time and see.
You guys, thanks.
Bye.
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