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April 23, 2026· 56m

ACHP Episode 515 Not My Baby : Update

ACHP Episode 515 Not My Baby : Update

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Welcome to Cigar Hustler podcast

515.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and

we are finally back in our own

studio.

Yay with me today.

Back from a successful movie

shoot.

Phil Mcguffey back from the

Bayou.

That's the name of his movie.

B I-YO U.

We'll play on where?

Because we were in New Orleans

and with me, as always, is Mikey

Preston got me sick and then I

got Palmer and my brother's sick

at the PCA so I could have my

own room step on Kevage.

I'm going to have my own room

moving forward.

That's fine.

I I enjoyed rooming with Greg.

He's a very considerate

roommate.

I don't have to go downstairs to

go to the bathroom.

All right, perfect.

You would make Palmer go

downstairs to go to the

bathroom.

That's a rule.

It's a rule.

You never made me go downstairs.

Did you go on?

Did you go?

You pooped in the.

All time.

Then you were with us, though

you're not.

You're never not with me and

him.

It was just me and you.

Yeah, I used to go.

When you guys went to Lake

Country?

Yeah, and I'd be like, it's OK

for you to poop in here.

Yeah, I don't think so.

He probably didn't come up.

He was not aware of the rules.

Yeah, there's no way.

Because in that hotel I would

have to go downstairs and across

the street because there's no

bathroom in the downstairs in

that hotel.

Really.

Yes, I had to go downstairs

across the street, through the

lobby and the restaurant to the

bathroom.

Seems reasonable to me.

No, it's very unreasonable.

Your brother's a very

considerate roommate.

He's he's great.

He doesn't do the yoga anymore.

No, there's not that.

He does snore a bit but he

provides ear plugs so OK, he

brings you ear.

Plugs he provides the ear he.

Provided the ear plugs, he

brings vitamin C tablets which

we were doing every morning.

Oh, he gets you on his regimen.

Well, that would be because of

Typhoid Mary over there was up

in the car so.

Typhoid Mary.

Yes, well, I mean you missed the

first day of setup because you

couldn't breathe.

First of all, I would have

attended the first day of setup.

You would have died.

I would have been fine.

I'm going to tell you right now,

yes.

I wasn't in nearly as sick first

day of setup as it was first day

of actual show.

Oh really?

First day of actual show was the

worst, Yeah.

And then second day was still

that, you know.

I'm glad we were busy because it

kept your mind, kept my mind off

of being sick.

And I mean, when you're going

from one to the next to the next

to the next, you just stay up,

yeah.

You just keep the cocaine coming

and you just keep it alleged.

Keep it at the yeah.

We don't do.

Drugs, even though we don't do

drugs, keep the level up and

then, you know, gets towards the

end of the day you're like, Oh

my God, is it over done?

Don't lay flat.

If you lay flat, you're going to

cough.

It's worse, yeah.

I mean last night the posture

pedic bed would.

I lay.

I lay on my stomach right now.

Oh, are you?

Oh God.

Amazing.

On today's show, we have an

update to an older story.

We have NATO logs, a big win.

Apple has a new leader.

Mexican vacation goes wrong.

There was one.

There was one more.

There was I don't remember.

And one more.

ChatGPT.

No, that's the Mexican vacation.

And before we get started

though.

Wanky if I use ChatGPT role in

FSU mass shooting.

Yes, 2 shootings.

Yep.

Oh, and Jet GPT got a gun.

All this allegedly.

Allegedly.

Well, I thought the story

actually said they did.

There was a picture.

Of have to say allegedly.

Oh.

Before we get started, how do

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I got news for you, Palmer.

Yes.

Exciting news.

Exciting news.

We had a couple of appointments.

That didn't show up, yes.

So here's what we're going to

do.

We have a couple of winged Hazar

hats.

I need a.

Couple of those for customers

and we're going to see we're

going to see who's listening to

this podcast today.

If you comment below, you're

going to be entered to win one

of these hats.

Oh my.

OK.

So what I'm thinking is maybe

we're going to do it for a

couple of consecutive days.

OK.

And if you comment on each day,

you get entered more than once.

Oh yeah, nice.

And then we're going to have a

winner for one of the hats.

So every time they comment they

get an entry.

As long as it's on a different

show from here moving forward,

and then I'll call the show.

You can't go back to the other.

Ones you can't go back to the

other show.

No, no, that'd be ridiculous.

Patreon for our Patreon, what do

we got?

We have on Patron today.

What's this?

How's it look?

Notorious Creme de la Creme.

Notorious Creme de la Creme

weight.

Knew not available.

Weight in the 1843g.

I'm looking forward to smoking

the cigar and getting your

giving you our opinion.

On it I had to fight him and if

you win, you get 3 cigars.

So there we go.

I got three of them.

Nice, nice.

That's why I'm limping.

That's why you're limping.

Limping.

You're you've always been

limping.

I limp more.

You limp more now, yeah.

He swept the leg, Johnny.

He swept the leg, swept the.

Leg, but he still won it.

Was more like survived yeah than

an actual.

Win if you made it 3 rounds with

Conor McGregor.

Yeah, yeah, OK.

Good job it.

Was just one.

Well, it's not going to be

ridiculous, right?

Three.

Rounds seems a bit over the top.

Yeah, seems a bit much.

Well, OK, Glad you guys are

back.

Yeah, I'm still talking.

OK.

Check out a patreon.com, a cigar

hustlers podcast where now if

you pay for the full year you're

going to get 10% off.

Oh, we had a big guy pay off the

entire year.

Yeah, big money.

Nice.

OK, now remember.

Now is to set up a budget.

We don't, you know, don't you

go, oh, look at all this money.

Let's buy more equipment and

then we can't pay the bills by

the end of the year.

We'll figure that out one step

at a time.

Some comments on last week's or

yesterday's show at Bryce Field

2489 says I don't mind the

bumpiness of the camera, but

it's still moving to the left is

annoying.

Did you use a self centering

camera?

I did enjoy all the behind the

scenes talk.

Well, thank you, You know,

listen, we did our best.

We provided content for you

every day.

Every.

Day and where a lot of these

other podcasts that would be

doing it they did not so yeah

thank you thank you the for

acknowledging the content and

the behind the scenes look we

appreciate that sometimes it is

what it is man you know I.

We make do with what we got,

yeah.

We just, we just kept it going.

We kept it real, you know, and

considering our health

circumstances and and time

restraints, we still got them

up.

Still got them up.

You know, I even got a star in

my eye the first day book.

Yeah.

It looked like.

It looked like I had pink eye

for two days.

Oh.

Wow, but I did guess that.

I guess that I missed the post.

I didn't schedule it right on.

Yesterday's yeah.

You schedule it a day off, it

happens, you know, Things

happen.

People understand.

Yeah, thanks.

It's.

Not a big deal, I appreciate it.

I fixed it soon as I was made

aware.

All right, Thank you, T Money.

Speaking of T money, he says

Greg looks like T money after

bowling night and get you some

LMNT packets.

I don't know what that is, but I

would drink it.

I don't care.

Lemon tea packets.

LMNDI don't know, is that one of

those hydration things maybe?

My wife said hydration tablets.

I was putting in that purple

water I was drinking every day.

Yeah, that seemed to help.

I mean, I didn't never got

dehydrated.

T Money also says it's a ripple.

G Oh.

Ripple G guys, it looks like

RIP, yeah.

Oh, is that what the ripple?

I I thought it was something

different.

And at David Hoffman 4727 says I

guess people will have to switch

out Alcatraz for the Mount

Rushmore and Statue of Liberty

tour instead, yeah?

Alcatraz is closed for a while.

Boots were very popular.

Yeah.

Fell forever.

So that means that you know you

can't.

Since you're not.

Since you're already in town,

you might as well see the Statue

of Liberty and then Mount

Rushmore.

Perfect.

Yeah, great idea.

Yeah, if you want to hear your

comment.

Throw in the Grand Canyon.

What?

Maybe throw in the Grand Canyon

if you still have extra time,

Yeah.

Might as well might as well.

If you want to hear your comment

written aloud on the show for

the possibility of it, comment

below on this episode.

Also, if you comment on this

episode, you could potentially

win a Winged Azar's post on your

hat.

So I think it's everything I

got.

That's it, Yeah.

I can't feel more time.

That's it.

So while I'm on the show, Boots

or Phil, what were you going to

ask?

Glad you guys are back.

Did you miss us?

To be honest, yes.

No, you didn't miss us.

No, I mean, kind of, but it was

a nice break.

I'm not.

Going to lie.

Like I know you guys still had

to do the show and everything,

but Palmer vacation time is

nice.

Are you looking, are you looking

to retire from the board?

No, no, no.

But it was just nice.

It was a nice little, you know.

Because, you know, we can always

replace you with somebody else.

You don't want to do this

anymore.

Yeah.

Are you sure?

It sounds like a.

Lot of people as you're walking

around at that show floor going,

hey, I want you on the thing.

Hey, you're on my Facebook all

the time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, that's you.

Oh yeah, good point.

He's on the camera that much?

He's on there.

Maybe he's got a mask on.

If you walk around without it,

he's nobody's going to know who

he is.

Yeah, nobody will know who I am,

Paul.

If I don't know the mask on.

He didn't walk around the mask

on.

Yeah, you can catch that voice

though, that deep baritone voice

like.

Oh, I know that voice.

Oh, I know that voice.

No, no, not looking to retire,

but you know, I'm gonna say I'm

glad to have you guys back.

You want us to limit you like

once or twice a week?

No.

You sure?

Triple G just dying to move in.

'Cause I missed you.

Look, there's, there's this Greg

would not be committed every day

for the week.

Well, he we don't really ask and

we tell him.

He's not even at work today.

He's dying.

I know he's gonna be.

No commitment.

We were so sick yesterday after

we dropped him off that it

looked like we were drunk.

We were just all giddy with.

Nyquil.

Well, we were all popping

Dayquil in the car.

I was so happy to see a pack of

Nyquil at the house last night.

Like I can sleep.

This is great.

Oh, you're taking Dayquil at

night?

Well I mean I stupidly only

bought Dayquil.

Oh man.

When when we found a store that

had some, I figured daytime is

more important.

It's when I got to be up and

working.

Right.

Though at night time between the

first night when Greg was sick,

it sounded like a werewolf was

killing villagers in my room.

Miserable.

It was.

It was terrible.

Yeah, that's basically what I

do, is screaming and growling.

I think that's him normally

though, right?

I don't, I don't think that's

like a not normal thing for.

Greg, when we went to do the

podcast on the road yesterday,

we came to the conclusion that

he was going to drive because

that's probably the best way to

do it yet.

Greg would drive so I can handle

the mic.

And then Palmer was in the back.

By the way, that mic sounded so

bad in the back, I had to adjust

everything.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

And when So we kind of woke him

up, said, hey, can you drive?

And he goes no.

He was mean about it.

It was louder.

It was like, no.

Yeah, wow, he was so grumpy.

Wow, he hungover and sick.

He drove for 40 minutes.

He missed the S 75 exit.

He missed 75.

Like, like, that's the obvious

1.

So he was on the road and it

says, you know, after 45 miles

or 30 miles, you're going to go

South on I-75.

Well, the phone rings and when

the phone rings, it doesn't tell

you to turn right, right,

because the screen comes up.

So he's Doo, Doo, Doo Doo.

I was like, dude, you missed our

exit.

Like I know you missed our exit,

right?

And he's like, I knew what the

board tells me to do.

Like he was super angry.

Yeah, Greg wasn't paying

attention.

Sounds like it.

And now he's dead.

Right.

Yeah, we won't see him for a

couple of days.

Now he's done a lot well, we

need him sooner than later.

We have those orders in.

Right, he's got the orders.

All right, let's get on with the

news.

The Florida couple who went the

fertility clinic and they got

the wrong baby.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Remember them?

Yeah, the the lovely white

couple and their.

Tanner Child.

Yeah, dark little baby.

They found the actual parents of

the baby.

Yeah.

Yes, genetic testing has shown

that they have found the parents

of the baby.

OK.

So how does that work?

So what happens now?

Yeah, wait a second.

She OK, well, they went to

fertility clinic.

The idea is they take her egg

and his sperm, they put them

together and they put them back

in.

And they, and neither one of

these, were part of this child.

Right, right.

So they did that and then when

she had the baby, it was a a

black baby, African American

baby I.

Don't know was it I thought I

was like Indian or something.

No, well, I know I'm assuming by

the skin color.

It was a darker.

Tone, child.

Obviously not from either one of

them.

Obviously.

Yeah, so then they thought, you

know, something was wrong.

So they find out that they

didn't get her egg in his sperm.

Oh, so it was his sperm.

No, no, not his sperm either.

They are genetic.

So that's what because since she

grew the baby did some of her

genetics get into it even though

it wasn't her egg?

I.

Don't know not I don't know how

that works either.

Probably not.

You know what it was?

It was probably the vials behind

theirs, right?

So the new guy was like, oh

wait, I have to.

It reads from the front, you

take the ones from the back.

Got it.

OK.

Oh man, I messed that up.

Sorry.

Well, the results of the testing

delivered to us today, they

said, confirming our baby's

generic parents have been

identified.

Their identity remains

confidential and we fully intend

to cooperate in respecting their

privacy.

This ends 1 chapter in a

heartbreaking journey.

So do they give this baby now to

those peoples?

Cause those people obviously

have a a baby of some sort too

you would think.

Oh, maybe they trade babies.

You know, that's a great

question.

Well, this.

Is like a Hard Rock thing

though.

I don't think, well, you would

think they, they, you would just

trade babies.

But I don't think that's how it

works.

I don't think they, you know,

like the Smith got the Jones.

I think the Smith got the Jones

and maybe the Jones got the

Mcgillicuddy's.

Yeah.

I mean, it could be all messed

up now everywhere.

OK, well, I mean, I wouldn't

trade babies.

Well, let's say it happened to

you.

They said, hey, you know, first

of all, you're trying to have

kids, right?

So you, you know, and you

already have, they gave you, you

have a child.

Have a child.

Through this process.

Right, looks like neither me or

my.

Wife.

And then somebody says, hey,

maybe this one's yours, This is

the correct What do you want to

do?

This is well did that, but

according to the story, they

don't have their baby yet.

They haven't found that one.

I get it.

So do you.

That's it.

Do you they just OK then give us

this one and then you have no

baby in the new quest.

New side quest.

Hope your baby shows.

Up.

I'm not giving up the the other

baby.

How long have they been with the

baby?

Right.

I mean, you she grew it in her

body.

Either some sort of attachment.

I would imagine the guy's been

talking to it for 910 months.

Oh, I mean I want my baby.

Well, I would want my baby from

me and my wife.

I'm keeping the other one too

though.

Oh, you keep it too?

Yeah.

So the other couple doesn't get

their baby back?

No.

I'm not understanding why they

took his sperm and her egg.

They was.

Put it in her belly.

No.

They they sometimes a mommy and

a daddy can't fertilize the egg

on their own, so they go to a

lab and they put the mommy egg

and the daddy sperm into a test

tube.

They put their thumb money and

shake it up really good and then

they make a baby.

And this lab mixed it all up.

And then they put the yeah, then

they put the embryo in back

inside the mommy, and then it

grows and then boom, we have a

baby.

That's how it works.

Maybe he's got a low sperm count

or something, or maybe she has a

hard time getting the egg in the

right hole or something.

I don't know how what the

problem is.

Yeah, this is true.

Like this update thing 'cause I

saw it on the news last night.

It's all must be true.

Yeah, 'cause it was on the news

that you saw.

That's how I that's how it.

Was I just get fake news?

Yeah, 'cause you get fake.

News.

Well, you know, maybe it's not

true.

Maybe it's just the doctor

trying to save face.

He's like, man, nobody's coming

here anymore for this in vitro

stuff.

I don't think you know what's

going on like that.

That doctor was already screwed.

He's made enough mistakes.

He's done.

Well, now they're saying embryos

are still the, the location of

our embryos.

So I mean, it might have, you

know, they might have harvest

her eggs prior and now they they

could be, they could have a

couple of children spread out

somewhere, who knows?

Teenager pops up.

So they're even more than likely

to ever be answered.

So you may never find their.

Child.

No, but I can tell you that. 23

and.

Me, I can tell you what I I can

tell you that if somebody came

to me and said, hey, this is the

genetic combination of your kid,

I'm taking that baby.

Oh, they're keeping the baby.

Yeah, our daughter was born.

We will love it.

We will love and we'll be this

child's parents forever.

So they're keeping it.

They're in.

They're in good for them so.

They're not getting rid of them.

Well I mean if I was the other

parent I would want my baby.

I may fight for my kid, yeah.

But definitely it's not your

kid.

It is genetically.

No, genetically it's me and

Matilda's kid.

But I'm saying you said, hey, I

found your baby like I found

your genetic, right, Right.

Oh, oh, you're the secondary

parent.

You're not the you're not the

parents of the lady that had it,

right.

Oh, I'm the people that had the

baby.

The baby came out of my wife.

Yeah.

OK.

And then me and we're over here

with this little Polish baby.

With the Polish baby, right?

And I want the.

Polish.

You want the Polish baby, but my

wife gave birth to the Polish

baby.

I fell in love with the Polish

baby with little Zeb Kaminsky or

whatever I'm calling it.

I'll.

I'll let you visit.

Kaminski.

That's Polish.

You can come by on the weekend

on the.

Weekend.

It's my little Irish Polish baby

now.

I'll let you babysit.

No, it's my baby.

No, you can't have it.

It's my baby.

Even we're not telling you we

have the baby you.

Already told?

Me.

Well, you have a baby.

You had a different baby.

Did you have a little pale Irish

baby?

Giving me the babies.

Wait, so you're taking my pale

Irish baby and your dark haired

bearded baby?

That's correct.

Oh no, you don't get both.

I could trade.

I'm taking all the children we

could trade.

No, I'm not giving this one.

I'm attached to this one.

How does this baby have facial

hair?

Because it's Polish.

It's Polish.

They come out with facial.

Hair.

Yeah.

Haven't you read books?

You.

Know you've read books, right?

Go online.

Look.

I'm Polish, I didn't come out

of.

Facial you know they read books.

East Germany.

He does.

He burns them.

Yeah.

Oh, is that what I do?

Allegedly.

Allegedly.

No.

It's true.

In history.

They did.

I'm driving, you know.

I have no baby.

Go get another one.

I can't make them, that's the

problem.

I made one you took.

It you need to figure this out.

I need to figure.

No, you need to figure.

It out my baby, my baby.

My baby.

OK.

We'll just give Greg all the

babies.

Well, I'm glad they're no.

Well, he's dying.

So Greg can't.

Greg can't probably leave an

exit route.

I'm going to trust him with

children.

He did yell that too when he was

in his drunken rant.

You can't.

Trust him, we will go see the

children play the sports while

he's still in the car.

Oh yeah, the things he said too.

Well, who's still in the car

meet?

You because you were going to

leave us and drive.

Oh, he wanted me to stay because

you wouldn't leave both of us.

He won't leave both of us.

He won't leave you here.

Come with me.

We will fly.

I have money.

You were going to leave Greg.

No, Greg didn't want to get up

after being out a night of

drinking and only sleeping two

hours.

He pulled the He pulled the

boots.

He wanted to go out.

He ditched us and went out with

people, yeah.

He pulled the boots.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, we we have now.

You're now a verb.

He bootsed us.

He bootsed us well.

He bootsed us.

So Greg wanted to go hang out

and then you told him you were

going to leave him.

No, he went and hung out, but

when was the time to leave?

I had to leave early because I

wanted to make the basketball

game.

He didn't want to get up.

Oh wow, because he was still

drunk and only slept for two

hours so.

Palmer left and came downstairs

with me and that was when he was

like, you're not leaving, I'll

take a plane.

He yelled that in his underwear

out the room door as a lady was

walking.

You can't stop me.

She thought she had just seen

some type of Love Earth quarrel

and I left Greg.

Grown, grown man, baby.

Yes, all right.

NATO intercepted Russian

strategic bombers and fighter

jets that flew over the Baltic

Sea on Monday.

Really.

Yes.

Intercepted.

They took them.

They hooked them.

Took at them.

They took at them.

And a muscular display of air

cover Alliance eastern flank

away from the spotlight of the

Middle East.

French Rafael fighters were

deployed from a Lithuanian air

base where they are stationed as

part of a decades long NATO air

policy policing effort.

So these guys have been there

for a decade looking to

fountain.

And I was like, oh look, we got

one, we got one.

The fighters, armed with air to

air missiles, joined jets from

Sweden, Finland, Poland.

You guys have airplanes?

Bro, we're no joke.

Poland's Poland's.

Polish Air Force, Yeah, Denmark

and Romania, they all took to

disguise to inspect and keep

watch on the Russian flight.

The French detachment said the

Russian mission included two

supersonic TU22M3 s s as well as

about 10 fighters, both SU 30s

and SU-30 fives.

No idea what these are.

The duck turns escorting the

larger strategic bombers,

according to the statement.

The Russian Defence Ministry

said the long range bombers

flight was scheduled and

occurred in airspace over

neutral waters of the Baltic

Sea.

The flight took more than four

hours, the ministry said Monday

on a on Telegram.

Telegram still around?

Told you.

That's a video footage format

thing, right?

That we don't want to hear

anymore.

No, no, no on social media there

was used to be social media

thing called.

Telegram.

Oh, really?

Oh yeah, there was a messenger.

Short form videos or something?

Really, Yeah.

At certain stages throughout the

long Range, bombers were

accompanied by fighters of

foreign states, the ministry

said.

Crews of Long Range aviation

regularly conduct flights over

the neutral waters of the

Arctic, North Atlantic and the

Pacific Ocean, as well as the

Baltic and Black Seas.

All flights of Russian Aerospace

Forces aircraft are carried out

in strict compliance with

international rules for use of

airspace.

But it's not like they just made

them go away.

I don't think they took them.

Phil took his headphones off

because I cough and it's too

loud for him.

Well, it's the consistent cough

we need to.

So they so they didn't take

them.

No, they they intercepted, but

by intercepting means they just

flew around them and made them

leave.

They made them turn around, go

back.

Go back, go back, go back.

Ministry did not immediately

respond as a request for comment

on Tuesday.

It often reports flights by

strategic bombers over the

Baltic Sea, including in

January, but NATO jets also flew

up to meet them.

You think, how's that work for

Putin?

Like they come back and he's

like, no, any excuse.

All allegedly.

Because they got caught.

Yeah, well, they're not stealth.

Bombers, This is not a Russian

way.

We do not permit you to be

captured and intercepted.

Yeah, he just.

Yeah, he kills all of.

Them you would have other lives

you would have been running.

Out of people because it

happened 4 times last year.

You are a very weak man.

Maybe they're having the baby

thing over there too, baby where

they do the egg and the sperm

and they mix it up.

Oh, I don't think they do that

in Russia.

Sounds expensive.

OK.

It's like $10,000 per.

Day.

I'm sure they do it in Russia.

Yeah.

But what you're saying like

Russia is some poor country that

doesn't have anything, right?

Yeah.

Well, their people can't afford

it.

Well, it's probably cheaper over

there too.

Remember, this is America.

You forgot $5, you get the five.

Dollars $5 you get.

I won't get the one.

Hurry down now.

We're making people today come

in.

It's an Indian Dr. there.

Right.

All right.

Hurry up and bye.

That's.

A very long story, Latavia or

something.

All right, we have to move to

the other thing now.

Oh, the iPad died.

No, but everything didn't get

loaded over because it was going

to die.

Got it.

And we got to put on glasses

this much smaller print, smaller

print.

Makeup.

Makeup, please.

Oh God.

All right.

Florida investigates Chat GPTS

role in the FSU mass shooting.

Aha.

So what did they do?

Florida Attorney General was

launching a criminal

investigation into the alleged

role Cheji played in a mass

shooting at Florida State

University last year.

But did Cheji, did you tell them

how to do it?

Did you read this or just that?

No.

I just sent it to you.

This is a huge one for the

algorithm, AI, crime, and

accountability all in one story.

Tons.

OK that's all you sent me

though.

Tons of search volume and strong

opinions, angles on both sides.

That's all.

Yeah, you sent me no

explanation.

That was it.

That's all I got.

So it sounds like Jet GP, they

might have went OK.

I'd like to do attack people at

a school, tell me how to do it.

Yeah, allegedly.

It's what we're thinking

happened.

OK, I'll find out.

You would think like something

like that that goes over the

Internet would definitely go to

CIAFBI.

Any government agency would all

of a sudden be alerted.

I feel like I'm asking Chad GBT,

how are you involved?

I didn't do it.

This is what it just.

I can't answer that, Michael.

I can't answer that right now.

Oh God, I hit New York Times and

they want you to pay.

Off of Chad GBT, yeah.

Oh wow.

My prosecutors, my prosecutors

have looked at this and they

told me if it was this person on

the other end of that screen, we

would be charging them with

murder, Attorney General James

Althmeyer said during a news

conference Tuesday.

The shooting suspects Phoenix

Ickner has pleaded not guilty to

two counts of first degree

murder and seven counts of

attempted first degree murder.

It's trial scheduled sometime.

That's all it says.

So an accessory.

Maybe the chat GB DS been

charged as an accessory so he

can't give me pictures anymore.

Is that why he went offline?

He was offline the other day.

All right, let's move on there.

After reviewing conversation

logs between its generative AI

chat, chat GBD and FSU student

accused of killing two people

and wounding several others.

So like, did the ChatGPT say,

hey, maybe we eliminate these

people?

I don't know.

I think it said, hey, this is

how you eliminate people.

How do I become the smartest guy

in my chemistry class?

I mean, I can't get to draw a

picture of Skip Martin, but

it'll tell you how to shoot the

money.

Yeah, right.

I have to say a look alike of

Skip Martin.

Did you see the end of the last

video?

No, but I saw there was

something on there, though it

was in the when I uploaded it.

What was at the end?

Oh, you have to go back and see

it, I guess.

The one that went up today or

yesterday's?

The one that went up today?

Yeah.

All right.

In April 20th, 2026, the gunman

opened fire at the ancient Tio

Tekukan archaeological site

about an hour outside of Mexico

City.

The attacker positioned himself

on top of the Pyramid of the

Moon, just in particular, the

one of the moon, giving him a

vantage point over crowds of

tourists.

Take the high ground, he read.

Always take the high ground.

Saw that on Chachi PT.

He no, no, this is a different

one.

This is Mexico.

He fired multiple rounds.

Reports range from 14 to 20

shots.

Very bad shot.

Was up so high.

Into the area below, triggering

panic.

Witness video show people

running, hiding and even

injuring themselves while trying

to escape.

One person was killed at

Canadian tourists. 13 people

injured, including six

Americans, tourists from

Colombia, Brazil, Russia and

Canada.

Some were shot, while others

were hurt in falls or Stampede.

Children were among the injured,

adding to the severity of the

It's a foreign language.

Yeah, yes.

OK.

So is it safe to travel to

Mexico if you're an American

citizen?

No, it's safe to travel

anywhere.

I don't go anywhere.

I know how you are.

You're terrified.

I'm not terrified.

Careful.

You went to Louisiana.

That's in America, Michael.

I don't know if you were, and I

hate everything about that

place.

I'm not going back.

Hey, that body is rough man.

Everything is spicy.

All the food there is spicy

Phil.

Well, yeah, it's Cajuns.

Yeah, well, the water.

It was ridiculous that the water

was spicy.

The water was spicy.

The water was spicy.

That's just because you're

having acid indigestion the

whole time.

It wasn't the.

Water.

I had to share my acid pills

with Greg because he thought

he's having a heart attack every

day.

Yeah, and he said I took this

acid pill and I don't feel

great.

They were great.

Apparently I just have

indigestion.

Yeah, of course you do, Greg,

have you seen what you eat?

Then I cut him off because like

no more.

I don't have enough.

You eat from Beverly's All the.

Time.

Come on, Palmer, give me a pill.

Go get your own go.

Get your own.

Yeah, it's not like we didn't go

to CVS or Walgreens every day.

Would you travel to Mexico?

Mexico, like right now, yeah.

No, last year.

Well, I kind of went close, but

he.

Just took a cruise.

He went Well, he did go over

here, Yeah.

I wouldn't need a ragwa.

So they say right now travelling

is not recommended, right?

It's heightened high end

security.

At all, Yeah.

Yeah, I don't recommend you

leave America.

Right.

Yeah, Wow.

There's not a ban yet, but I

feel there's going to be a ban

coming soon.

They're setting it up for it.

But I don't know.

I mean, Mexico to begin with is

kind of not safe, right?

Yeah, yeah, cartels and stuff.

I mean, I don't really fit the

description of what they want.

Right.

What do they want?

I don't know.

You look kind of American, Y.

You're kind of attractive.

What do they want?

They're not going to kidnap you,

they're just going to shoot.

You, yeah, but you know, for sex

trafficking and stuff, I'm not

really the type.

Yeah, Oh yeah, you so are.

You're very much the type.

You think there's a bear market?

I'm sure.

I think so.

A bear market?

Yeah, a bear.

Yeah, that's what you are.

You're a bear.

Oh, is that what it's called?

Yeah.

A large white man.

Is my head cut off if I sit up

like this?

A little bit.

You're keep going a little more.

There you go.

OK, what about Palmer?

You never go to Mexico, huh?

Not even senior frogs.

Senior frog, I mean, Mexican

restaurant.

I'll go to a Mexican restaurant

here in America.

But you go on cruises.

Well, they have a.

Cruising years.

The senior frogs originated.

Cruises are a little different

because even if you get off, if

you do it right they have

controlled areas for you to get

off and walk.

Around.

Oh man, when I got off in the

Bahamas it didn't seem really

controlled.

That's the Bahamas are

different.

We kind of, you know, own them,

you know, in a weird way.

Hey, you want to buy this little

turtle and no man, how about

this crack cocaine?

What do you want?

You go to the straw.

Did you go to the straw market

when you were in the Bahamas?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking

about, right?

I mean.

It's table after table after

table of some guy.

I go, hey man, buy this hat.

Yeah, well, yeah, if you say no,

that's what he does.

He's like, how about the crack

cocaine?

Maybe the needles?

Which one?

You want cigars?

I've got these cigars for you.

I like going to straw market

immediately.

I do everything.

Half they go.

This is $10 to give you. 5 Come

on man, don't give me 5.

That's a deal. 5 take it or

leave it and I'll walk away.

Drives my life crazy. $5 Freddy

man Come on bro.

No, you gotta be willing to walk

away.

We don't even need that hat.

But for $5, I'll take the hat,

right?

Yeah.

Alright, man.

American.

Yep, $5 American, man.

I got it right here.

You got a $5.00 bill.

Bam bam bam.

What about the crack cocaine?

You want some of that?

Another $5.

Put it in the hat.

This costs behind me, don't

worry about them, yeah.

Don't worry, man, they're with

me $6.

My cousins, yeah, $6, six, $3

and $3 for that.

They all they all nick you for

$5 as you're going.

Hey $5 to stay out of jail bro.

Damn that $5 hat just cost me 15

bucks.

That's right, amount of money.

I only brought $15.

Right.

Oh, God.

Mikey's falling asleep.

You're dying.

I have a really big cough I'm

trying to keep in.

Rough one.

Yeah.

There you go all.

Right, let's move on.

OK, Next from the Bahamas.

Man, Steve just texted.

I got to go back up shooting.

Oh, we did that when Tim Cook

stepping down as Apple CEO.

Apple announced that 65 year old

Tim Cook will hand over CEO

duties to the company's head of

hardware products.

What Apple eyes hardware.

Oh, hardware.

Yeah, different kind of

hardware.

John Turnus in September with

Cook staying on as executive

chairman.

This massive tech business news

with huge audience interests.

Great for takes on leadership

transition.

What it means for Apple's brand

future legacy, I don't know.

Let's let's find out.

This guy looks young.

He does look young, that new

guy.

Yeah, yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So after what's his name died?

Steve Jobs, This other guy who's

been in charge, I guess.

Yeah, the cook guy.

No, the cook guy's in charge

now.

Or has he just been made the

official?

He was like the transitional.

No, Tim Cook is done.

Yeah, Tim Cook got in charge

after Steve Jobs.

Yeah, and there's a new guy

coming.

Oh yeah, here we go.

Sorry.

I mean, look man, here's the

reality.

We haven't seen a new Apple

phone that was cutting edge in

over a decade, if not longer,

right?

I mean, let's get this going,

wasn't.

There a new iPhone this year?

Yeah, there's a new iPhone, but

it.

Wasn't like what he said like

something?

Different like, oh, check this

out, you know, like hey now you

can you just put your phone up

like here and you know that's

hologram and you know, like

some, you know.

This little bracelet thing, it

pops up out of your.

You're not.

Going to believe this and now

with AI and all this other stuff

man, like we should be levelling

up our game.

You think they're going to go

away with phones and go to like

the meta glass, like the

accessory type things?

I don't know.

Oh, the glasses are oh, but

that's not is that?

That's not them though, is it?

No, I love my glass.

I think they're amazing.

Yeah.

He's on him.

He's wears them all the time.

Meta answer that meta answer.

Tell me what that?

Says read, read me that text.

I'm like.

Does it bother you when you're

driving and the screen pops up?

There's no screen.

There's no screen, just audio.

No, the Raymans have a screen

like a heads up display, but

nobody's said said anything to

me about that yet.

Oh, I'd want the heads up

display.

Yeah, I don't know.

But what you're driving,

wouldn't it be dangerous?

I have no idea, does it?

Just come up like on one eye.

Yeah, it's only one eye,

actually.

What if it's your non dominant

eye or your dominant?

Eye.

Oh, that's a good.

That's a good point.

Well, you could probably change

it, I said.

All of a sudden the car swerves

because you're you're reading

something on your thing.

Yeah, I don't know.

There's like flying a, there's a

helicopter.

I can't think of it.

I don't know what's going on.

I don't know.

I I so when I was just at the

eye doctor and they, they're

going to do a demo for me.

Put a corny in Nice, they're

going to put a new corny in your

eye, no?

No, no, I looked at the Ray Ban

Meadows.

Oh, oh, you're.

Going to get those.

Yeah, I told them I wanted them

as sunglasses.

So like, I want them polarized.

They're like 700 some odd bucks.

He's rich.

Wow, you got $700.00 sunglasses?

Yeah.

Well, I haven't got them yet.

I want to.

I want to do the demo and make

sure it.

He's got them coming.

Wow.

They're awesome.

Two different colors, these ones

changes.

I think the Oaklands last longer

I'm.

Sure.

Well, yeah, they're definitely

different.

They're more sport and.

I traded the cigars for mine.

Oh nice.

So this new guy rose, He joined

Apple in 2001.

He rose through engineering

leadership roles, currently

overseas, all hardware

developments.

Maybe it might be something new

coming.

Including iPhone, Mac, iPad,

Apple Silicon chips.

He's been central figure in

Apple's most successful era of

hardware innovation.

Internally, he's been long seen

as the top successor candidate.

So they've been grooming this

gentleman to take care.

Well, company like Apple?

I would think so.

Well, we had a cigar company

where this guy thought he was

going to be made the new guy,

and then he retired or he left

because they brought in a guy

from a liquor company, right?

Yeah, but I feel like the money

that each one of those companies

makes completely different.

OK.

All right.

What do you got for what's next?

It's all the stories.

No CR news.

No, they're still doing PCA

stuff.

Yeah.

But we can do what's the score?

You know, we can talk a little

bit about PCA stuff.

OK, so Padrone released this 100

year old 100.

Oh, did they go by there?

I saw this then.

The humidor is really nice.

They only have 100 of them

coming out a. 100 humidors or

100?

I think we covered this story.

Not really. 100 humidors, 100

yadda yadda.

And then, but like when you go

and try and find out any of the

Intel, there's zero Intel on the

cigar.

Oh, it's just like the last

night of the collab.

There like the legacy thing,

Yeah.

And that came out like 3 years

later.

Yeah, this would probably be on

bar.

You think so?

Yeah, I think so too.

You know, it's very expensive.

It kind of sucks because like I

would, dude, when you look at

this humor, I'm like, this is

nice.

No, it looked, Yeah, it looked

good.

I saw a video of it on on

Facebook.

You don't know how much it is.

How much?

How much you think?

So that legacy thing was what,

like 7500 or something like

that, something like that, 10

grand. 10 grand, how much do you

think it is?

20. 20 grand, Yeah.

You want to know how much it is?

I'm going to not tell you

because they don't know.

They they haven't said it, you

sucker to say come on.

How?

It's like, what are we doing?

I hate that.

Yeah, Like why not just tell us?

They have to know about what

it's going to cost.

Yeah, they, I mean.

They want to see what the hype

is.

The price is not the hype.

I.

Mean how much can we sell the

thing for?

Yeah, what do people guess?

Well, that former guy said 20,

so let's add 1010%.

Yeah, How many emails you got

from them?

Yeah, see what all the

podcasters saying.

Yeah.

We already kind of covered the

placenta, not the placenta and

the the Drew Estate thing.

How did how did lure do there?

I know that was.

You know, we don't know, but I.

Don't mind, talk to him.

You got some samples from where

we're going to put some of that

on the on the Patreon.

Yeah, he's going to come in and

do our show and cigar guy's here

pretty soon.

Oh, cool.

OK.

We have his new Wahoo to try on

the Patreon.

Nice.

OK, he had a he had a nice

little booth.

I was surprised when Skip

brought it up as one of the

booths he was impressed with.

Yeah.

I mean, the cigars, they're

pretty.

The ones we've been smoking went

pretty.

Good.

Yeah, the fish sticks was really

good.

Yeah, what?

What was the What was the best

looking booth this year?

Well, PCA awarded Stoic for

their best smaller booth or

medium booth.

Did they really?

Yeah, I liked it with the

pillars.

Yeah, I thought it was very

nicely done.

Yeah.

I mean, here are the like the

main highlights from BCA.

Other than Bastani, I thought we

didn't make this list,

Espinoza's 8 new product

releases, which we kind of

covered.

We haven't smoked those yet, but

I'm excited to smoke some of

those.

I mean, that'll be really good.

I have just singles just for me.

You have Oh, just for you.

Well, I have the the new six O

1, I have the the new green 1,

whatever that is, the hybrid,

that's all.

It's the only two new ones I

got.

Yeah, we didn't really get a lot

of cigars.

I mean, we do.

We're so busy.

Yeah.

We didn't go out and go

pillaging it this year.

Casa Carrillo has a new Ascend

line and the Deep Blue limited

release Oscar Balladares

announces the collaboration

owns.

Oh, who's doing that with?

If I knew that I could have got.

One, I don't know who's

collaborating with.

It's a great question.

What's the company with the

parent on the band?

I always forget.

Does somebody say Crystal Ball?

Yeah, St.

Cristobal had that new one.

I tried to get one of those and

they didn't have any more.

I really wanted to try they had

them.

They probably did.

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

You know, it's funny, as I hit

up the Mirfeld guys for Mirfeld

the end.

You could tell like that with

people that didn't really know

me.

They didn't want to give it up.

I think I got to get one more.

Can I get one?

I want to smoke one.

No, we don't have any, no.

And who are you?

Yes you do.

And they tried to give me one of

the other ones like the family

ones.

Like no, I don't want.

That one I don't know.

What the hell, You know what I

want.

I want the secret land Terra

already got in trouble for

smoking.

Placencia rebrand and where?

Is where is dark wing.

Yeah, where's Jeremiah?

Where's Jeremiah?

He's not a bullfrog.

Darkling.

Placentia's rebrand, obviously

that happened.

Did you notice that the Oscar

Balladari's Neon Somewhere

Snotty neon display in their

setup is the leaf from

Placentia?

Oh, is it?

Oh yes.

Oh, hello.

Well, they've had that.

They had.

Yeah, it's the third show in a

row they've used that same setup

for.

And then, you know, obviously

Placentia is World Cup inspired

triumphal, which we've kind of

covered.

This is interesting.

STG reunites general and forge

brands under one roof.

Did that happen?

I didn't catch that.

Or were they all just squeezed

into that little square?

They build that that what they

meant because that make that

thing gets very, very packed.

Yeah.

I mean, we, we talked to Dave.

He didn't say that.

He didn't say, well, now we're

all together again.

Good point.

We should have got burnt ends.

We should have got some of those

to try.

Do you think this was a strong

year for new releases?

Let me ask you that.

Not a strong year, but I think

they were, they didn't seem to

be as many as there was last

year as far as press releases

and stuff.

Because when I was out and

about, you know, of course

there's, you know, there's not a

lot.

Wasn't a lot about and about SO.

Yeah, what about you, 'cause

you're pretty entrenched on some

of the stuff.

You know, I saw a lot of videos

on new stuff.

I I don't know how it was here

before.

Any new highlights and was there

something that you were like,

man, I really want us to try

that.

Oh yeah, I mean definitely all

the Espinosa stuff and their

packaging look great.

What else?

That's one I.

Think there was one by oh God.

Arganosa agonosa, what do you

want?

To call Agonosa.

Yeah, there was one that I had

seen that they were they were

putting on Facebook or whatever.

Yeah, that looked interesting.

They had a terrible location to

look like.

They got put back where we were

last year, but they were behind

taller ones all around.

That's what sucks.

I mean, I, you know, I wanted to

go by and say hi to Terrence and

took me a while to find it.

Oh, you said I don't.

No, he was busy.

I didn't say hi to Terence, I

didn't say hi to Fabian.

Yeah, no, they were both busy.

The one time I had that I walked

by where they were.

Yeah.

Was there any?

But they were like 3 or 4 rows

back, but not all the way

against a while.

So it was like booth, booth them

booth.

So I mean, unless you were

looking for it, you wouldn't

have seen it.

Did HVC or Room One O 1 have a

new cigar?

HVC did, it's a new pan

caliente, I forget what it's.

Called Yeah, Room one O 1 has

the Johnny Tabaconaut new Johnny

Tabacon.

Yeah, the Brown.

One, I might have some with me.

If not, remind me I have some

for you.

OK, that I do have.

I appreciate that.

I did see Marlon Waynes is

there.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm curious to see how long he

stayed.

Yeah.

I don't know.

If he stayed for day one, how

long he stayed for day one or

whatever the case may because he

was at that bonfire thing or

whatever campfire conversation

which we didn't partake in.

I saw a picture of it, but no.

Well, he also he also had a

comedy show that.

That Friday night, right?

Smart.

That's a good approach.

Parlay.

Yeah.

So, yeah, No, I mean, so I I

don't know, maybe I'm just

getting jaded.

No, not jaded, just maybe.

I've just been in here so long,

been in this industry that

nothing new really was like, oh,

wow.

Oh, you know, like, yeah, I'm

excited about the Espinoza

stuff.

I mean, you guys had all your

new stuff.

Yeah, I'm excited about our

stuff.

Obviously, when it comes to the

Sumatra and the SBC and then the

smoke this trust me set.

Yet normally when we go through

the the, you know, as we read

the stories that are about what

they think, I was like, oh, I

want to try that.

Yeah, I want to try that.

Yeah.

This year was like maybe just

this 110 Cristobal thing, it

looks.

Good.

It didn't seem like there was a

lot of new cigars.

I.

Don't think so either.

Maybe, maybe people just, I

don't, I don't know, Maybe they

came out with them already.

I don't know.

Interesting.

Maybe they put them out of TPE.

So I mean some people.

I don't think so man TPE sounded

like it was a ghost town.

Yeah.

Drews, they had their new stuff.

The Dominicana thingy.

Yeah, the underground.

They had a new Dominicana and

the new underground Dominican

underground.

Or whatever it was.

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

OK.

There, but it's always busy.

Yeah.

I didn't see as much coverage

from media like this.

The things that I saw was from

the actual companies.

It wasn't from like podcasters

or, you know, anybody like that.

I think most people shoot

everything while they're there

and then they go home and divide

it up and edit it then and then

they start putting up shows,

yeah.

It's hard to do.

It it's hard to run and gun

there.

I mean, Dojo did they, they put

us up the day after they did it.

Yeah, they did, yeah.

Yeah.

But I do like to see that these

guys are having their own kind

of social media, the companies

like, yeah, their own producers

and stuff, right.

I think that's important.

I think that's good to have.

So nice.

But that's a good point.

I mean, obviously I smells as

Jerome and he does a great job.

Yeah.

You know.

I thought you said a Jerome, but

you said Jerome.

Yeah.

And then Agonosa does has

somebody obviously.

Yeah, somebody does their stuff.

Who was there any other

celebrities other than Marlon

that was notable?

No.

Guy Fieri was there.

Yeah, but he didn't stay for the

whole show.

No, he just did that by, you

know, I saw he was somewhere

else already.

The next day he.

Had to be somewhere.

Else he had to be somewhere

else.

OK.

All right, You want to play?

What's the score?

Yes.

All right.

Our first cigar, March 29th,

2025.

Charlie Minato is the reviewer.

It is Tampa Smokers, Toro. 84

Tampa.

Smokers.

I have no idea what this is.

Yeah, 85.

The cigar is called Tampa

Smokers Toro.

A country of origin is USA.

It's made at the JC Newman

factory in Tampa.

It's an Ecuadorian Connecticut

seed wrapper.

Binder is USA Connecticut

broadleaf filler.

Undisclosed length.

It's a 6 by 52 round cigar.

It's $24.00 and they smoked 3.

86.

Faster though 85.

Clue number one, there are many

shades of brown in the baseball.

The dirt, the gloves, the bat.

This is quite a bit lighter than

the colors I think of for those

things.

A bit more like Bertman mustard,

a Cleveland baseball staple,

though maybe a bit lighter than

that.

The paleness of the rapper does

not hide the veins though.

The cigars are fairly

cylindrical and outside of a

nick on the first one I don't

have any issues with the

appearance. 86. 85 Settle down,

Sally.

When it comes to the first puff,

all three Tampa Smokes Toros

keep the early theme in a medium

full.

Only the first cigar has a

distinct potting soil flavor.

Hmm, wow, that's the other two

have plenty of more normal

earthiness.

The first cigar also has an

aggressive barnyard flavor which

isn't present in the other two.

The second cigar has more

acidity and some berries, but

it's mostly just dry soil where

the first cigar was almost

sweetness.

A semi sweet milk coffee as

earthiness.

I wasn't paying attention. 86

right?

I wasn't paying attention.

I was reading either.

I'm on the 82 for the potting

soil.

Let's.

Find.

How can you like that flavor

that just doesn't make?

Anything.

Yeah.

You like potty though?

Third clue, because of how much

smoke I'm able to get, I don't

consider it plugged, but it's

not as it's not good.

As for the first cigar, the

tightness is causing me to think

this cigar is just a minute from

going out, which is odd given

how much smoke comes from the

foot of the cigar. 84. 82.

Alright, final thought, let me

get to it.

Final thought, when looking at

the three score sheets, it's

quite apparent that I had three

very different experiences.

If I had to pick one to

replicate, it would be that the

first cigar, which had good

enough flavor but was a lot

easier to smoke than the third

cigar, which had my favorite

flavor profile.

The second cigar, the one with

the early with the overly tight

draw, was far and away the worst

in the culprit for the score not

being that high.

This is much fuller cigar than

the lightness of the wrapper

might suggest to some.

Alright, final score. 77.

Yeah, 78.

What did you say, 77?

You went the right way, yes.

I was with the whole time.

He won.

No, you won.

No, he said 74.

You said 78.

It was 84.

I dropped it.

Oh, it was 84, I think he said

70.

Four.

I dropped it significantly at

the end.

Yeah, I was a little nervous

when you did that.

I was like, well, maybe I heard

something.

Wrong.

I need to just go the Matt Booth

way and just pick a number and

stick with it.

Oh, is that what he did?

He.

Just yeah, he says the same

number.

And it was his cigar.

Yeah.

Did he get it right?

No, I remember if he won or

none, I won.

You won it, but it was bamboo

cigar.

Yeah, that's not it.

Fuck, I should have won that

one.

All right, you won one more.

Yeah.

Right, an hour.

All right.

January 2nd, 2018.

Brooks Whittington is a

reviewer.

It's the Altidus USA cigars, the

Sancho Panza Ducalis. 85, 84.

Sancho Panza Ducalis from 1980

Country of origin Spain factory

Mueno say wrapper Cuba binder

Cuba filler Cuba 5 and a third

by 42 Corona.

It's a $40 cigar.

And they were.

They only smoked one. 85. 84.

Oh God. 84 You telling me Next?

Starting out, the Sancho Panza

du Cali's exhibits immediate,

dominant flavors of both leather

and cedar, intersparked with

notes of cashews, barnyard, and

milk chocolate.

There's some of the orange

citrus from the cold draw

present on the retro hail,

albeit not nearly as strong.

I'm also noticing a touch of

sweetness that reminds me of

honey.

Sounds delicious. 87. 84.

Clue #2 I'm noticing an

increasing bitterness on the

finish that is coming close to

overwhelming some of the lighter

flavors, while both the white

pepper on the retro Hell and the

spice on my tongue has remained

at fully constant levels.

Is he bubbling?

I thought.

He was, but he's.

Not he's gone.

That's probably the phlegm.

Probably the phlegm in my

throat.

Yeah, it's his nasal.

Construction wise, the draws

remains excellent, but the burn

gets a bit out of hand, forcing

me to touch it up a couple of

times. 87. 84.

My eye itches.

While not overly exciting, the

final third of the central pens

is almost exactly like the

second third, with the same

leather and cedar combination

holding the dominant spot is

this, followed by lesser notes

of hay, floral nuts, espresso

beans, and earth.

The one major change is the

bitterness on the finish, which

has disappeared, allowing both

the honey sweetness and the

white pepper to shine.

This is the final thought.

Nope.

Next is the final thought was

the final clue. 87 Oh God, Oh,

he did that. 84.

Don't you change from that

number, Mikey?

Final thought in a review I do

of a cigar this old is always a

gamble.

Will it still have flavour that

I can distinguish, or will it be

so old that my flavours are

basically dead?

Or something in between?

Turns out the Sancho Panza

Ducalis had more of the former

than the latter.

The profile is decent, complex

and features more pepper and

spice than I would have thought

possible in such an age cigar.

There were some moments during

the smoke that some of the

flavors took over.

Most notably, A noticeable

bitterness on the finish is the

second third.

There were few and far between

and did not last long in any

case.

In the end, any minor issue were

balanced out nicely by the other

flavors that were present, as

well as the fact that the

smoking a cigar that was more

than 30 years old.

I can easily recommend it as one

ever happens to cross your path.

Hurry, I got to blow my nose.

So I am going to have to say

that I might have to correct

myself from earlier.

I do miss you guys.

I did miss you guys.

I did miss this because this is

fun.

I do like doing this, doesn't?

Matter, he said what he said.

Yeah, it's so hurtful. 87 You

better not change.

You better not change.

He just said that he liked it.

Yeah, but you've been going

wrong with the 84. 84850 Yeah,

I.

Was so hoping you changed it

well.

No sparklers today, fellas.

No.

Sparklers.

We're supposed to get more fuel

as soon as Greg's alive.

Yeah, that we asked him that

three weeks ago.

Or two, he asked us for the

money in the car.

We're like, they don't work.

Yeah, soon as they fix.

Yeah, you fix, we pay.

Soon as you fix.

We pay and then we have a

contract, Jimmy and the service

agent too.

What?

He's going to be the country,

yeah, within the contract.

If he doesn't fix them, we get

money back.

There's got to be a warranty.

Maintenance Repair.

Warranty.

OK, thank you very much.

We hope we provided great

entertainment for you guys

today.

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Tomorrow we have a special

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We do have a special guest

Loreen will be in the house.

So then edit it.

Very excited about our special

guest.

I also have a video for you.

I'll give it to you for

tomorrow.

Oh.

OK.

All right.

All right, guys.

Thank you very much.

We're glad to be home.

All right.

Thanks, Phil.

You're welcome.

Bye bye.

Show Notes

On today’s show we have an update to an older story.  NATO logs a big win,  Apple has a new leader.  Mexican vacation goes wrong , Chat GPT Has  Gun!  And a What’s The Score Double Game