ACHP Episode 516 HUlk Hogan Behind The Pain
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Welcome to a Cigar Wrestler
Podcast 516.
I'm Mike Palmer, your host, and
with me today back from his
circumcision, Phil, I want my
foreskin back.
Mcguffey say hi, Phil.
Since when did we put me in that
place?
Well, you know because of your
extensive movie career in the
male porn industry that you
decided to go the next step.
I don't care if I was in male
porn, I just want to see the
money.
It's all right, their money.
Yeah.
I'm dying.
Hold on.
You want to do male porn?
What I.
Don't know.
Good.
Let's get through the beginning,
then we'll talk about this.
I'm doing the best I can and
with me today is our guest host,
Mr. Law.
Black is so much better than
yellow rain from Camacho Cigars.
It's very true.
Thank you for joining us.
That is my soul now.
I hope you don't get sick.
Me too.
You guys have health insurance?
You shouldn't have kissed when
you came in, but you just got
aggressive.
I didn't know what to do.
You just have a very kissable
face.
You know why, Palmer?
Sick.
Why?
Because he had to do certain
things to get these wireless
mics for you room.
So things happen.
Yeah.
You have a what happens in New
Orleans stays in New Orleans.
I have a.
Friend who's a recovering heroin
addict and Jesus, same idea when
he went to purchase something
with cash for the first time.
They're like, this could be
$132.53.
And he goes, what's what's that
in blow jobs?
Wow.
Got to cut that out.
On today's show we have the
Huckster, the Hulkster.
I spelled that wrong twice.
I fixed it once.
The Hulkster tell all on Netflix
Florida woman picks a fight with
a toddler.
Now the war has gone too far and
Mr. Beast may have also crossed
the line.
And then Bian is bringing it
back in the UK.
Banned smoking.
And then we have a double
special Camacho.
What's the score?
But before we get started, I'm
told he's prepared.
Law.
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Excellent job.
You have to keep talking to
guys.
Phil's up roaming around the
studio for some reason.
I got some comments from
yesterday's bug.
You want to go through those go
all right, we got a real smoke,
pod, said.
Dang guys, you sound rough by
the end of the show.
They don't sound any better.
By the end of the show even I
was coughing.
Who knew you could catch The
Walking death wires via
podcasting?
Welcome back and feel better.
Then you have Ruckus Unchained.
What about the sling bag from
last PCA?
We still have some of those.
Maybe we can do something.
All right, I mean, that's sick
ass sling bag.
Can I curse?
No, not really.
We're we're monetized now.
Oh, so there's a list of
questions they ask you at the
end, and one of them is their
excessive swearing or foul
language.
A lot's changed since you've
been here.
Well, yeah.
I see that there was no old bar
last time, right?
Yeah, now we have a list of
things we can't talk about.
Jace 1911 says now taking bets
on pill catching the sickness.
I don't know what that means.
I'm Phil catching the sickness.
I just don't know how to read.
Yeah, Phil, how you feeling?
I'm good.
I usually stay far away from the
coffers.
We only see them for Showtime.
Yep.
E dot Patrick Prater 7659 says
please Lysol the hat before
sending it to me.
Yes I had Lib.
It says Lysol the hat first.
That's OK.
Yeah.
And then you have data cache
2004.
Does Phil seriously have no idea
as to how IVF works?
No, he doesn't.
He doesn't, no.
Well, first of all, I didn't
know that there was a lot of
masters of this science.
Everybody knows how it works.
I don't understand how you don't
know it's.
Pretty well.
Known.
There's different ways, just
like there's, you know?
IBF No, no, that's.
Different everything.
Petri dish.
Squirt, squirt egg, egg.
You're done.
Yeah, but then you can have
another lady carry it, or you
could carry it, or there's a
whole bunch of different.
Things, but that doesn't change
the fetus.
All right, this is over.
Wow.
Hey, there's a remote there on
your table.
Hit stopwatch and hit start.
I guess I should have brought
that up earlier.
Oh, OK.
It's usually Mikey's job.
I can't see anything.
I'm trying to look really cool
with these glasses on at the
top, the button says.
Stopwatch just hit that hit
Stopwatch.
Stopwatch.
Aiming at the little thing.
OK, now hit Start.
Where's that button?
Probably a play button.
It's probably not.
Start.
Oh, there we go.
It does say Start.
Oh.
There we go, How many minutes we
have booty?
5.
So I had five to whatever it is.
All right, now I'm with the
news.
We have a Hulk Hogan tell all on
Netflix.
You guys watched it?
No, I don't have Netflix.
Somebody can give me their
Netflix.
The series, released on Netflix
in 2026, follows Terry Jean
Boley career.
Oh, sorry, career.
From the Mass Super Destroyer to
WWE Hall, everything is blurry
today.
This is it.
This is what the war has done to
Palmer.
Hall of Famer and his death from
a heart attack on July 24th,
2025 at age 71.
Hogan admits in documentary that
he began using steroids a few
years after graduating in high
school in 1971.
So, a few years after Arnold
Schwarzenegger.
And continued after the 1988
ban, publicly denying it for
years before acknowledging the
use in 1994.
Doctor George Zohan Zohan,
charged in 1991 for distribution
steroids to wrestlers,
identified Hogan as a recipient,
leading to Hogan's appearance on
The Arsenio Hall Show, where he
lied about his use.
In a 2012, Gawker published part
of a 2007 Six tape featuring
Hogan in the Heather Clem.
Anybody seen the sex tape?
No, no.
I haven't either.
It seems odd, no?
Does it?
Tender.
Clam.
I mean, I've seen the Kardashian
one.
Oh, OK all.
Right, 2016 jury awarded Hogan
$140 million, later settled for
31 million after the company
shut down.
Would you guys settle for $31
million of a sex tape with you
and some girl?
I'd settle for like 10 bucks.
I already did the sex tape.
Yeah, I already got the part I
wanted.
Like they give me the money or I
have to give her no.
No, they give you my you.
You have sex with a woman, not
your wife, and they give you you
ask for 140, they give you $31
million, but then your wife's
gonna find out you did the thing
I.
Feel like for $31 million you
can find another one pretty
easily.
Find another wife.
Yeah, dude, I'm on my third one.
I don't know.
Hey.
Who knows 'cause you're.
Gonna have to give her.
Half and you're poor.
Imagine if you have money.
Right, exactly.
I'd be up to 5 or 6 by now.
Hey, maybe she wouldn't care
'cause now you're rich.
Maybe.
Look, it's a one time thing.
Here's a new house and a boat
and an airplane, right?
I mean look how much Bill Gates
wife put up with.
Right.
Well, what do you do?
Oh, what didn't he do?
I.
Don't know anything about that.
Oh, in the in the most recent
Epstein filed dump, they had an
e-mail from Bill Gates to
Epstein saying, hey, can you,
can you get me some chlamydia
medicine so I can break it up
and put it in my wife's orange
juice in the morning?
Because.
Because of Russian prostitutes,
Yeah.
That's that's wow.
Yeah.
And he goes to that guy.
He couldn't.
Doesn't he have his own
contacts, you think?
I you would think so.
A man of his level.
I mean, he's got to have like.
He has a chlamydia chlamydia
drug dealer.
I got doctors I can get stuff
from without asking Epstein.
You should ask him if you get
chlamydia drugs.
That's how you know he's a
virgin.
I don't know.
I'm not.
No, I'm not ruining that
relationship.
I mean, you know, if I need
something, I got peoples.
You literally just go to a free
clinic.
Right.
Right, They're not going to.
Yes.
A transcript of the tape
revealed Hogan used a racial
slur.
He apologized, was fired from
WWE and later expressed regret
over the incident in the docu
series.
What do you say?
Anybody know?
Nope.
Nope.
Excuse me, it's the last episode
I'm ever going to.
Do this episode brought to you
by The Zombie Apocalypse.
Yeah, no.
Shit.
Umbrella Corporation.
Or by Ricola.
We're only 8 minutes in and
we're through the first story.
OK, that's a quick episode.
Florida woman throws a beer
bottle at a toddler after
falling off her bike.
That sounds very Florida.
Towns very Florida Florida woman
is facing charges after deputies
say she threw beer bottles at a
toddler on Tuesday night,
according to the Okaloosa County
Sheriff's Office.
Carolyn Miller reported
reportedly fell off her bicycle
around 6:30 PM while on Circle
Drive in Fort Walton Beach.
Deputy said a three-year old boy
went up to her in an apparent
attempt to check on her and
threw 2 beer bottles at the
child.
Bye bye.
When does it said that if the
boy hadn't ducked, wah wah, he
could have been hit in the head?
The child's parents saw the
whole thing.
They, along with multiple nearby
residents, provided sworn
statements corroborating the
events, investigators said.
The Miller Miller stated that
she believed she was being
attacked by the toddler.
Or Jason Bourne.
However, they added that she was
unable to coherently explain
what happened or her actions.
Miller suffered a minor finger
injury, which officials said was
consistent with falling from a
bicycle.
The child was not injured.
Miller has been charged with
aggravated assault with a deadly
weapon.
Really, beer.
Bottles a deadly weapon.
Yeah, and cause some damage.
So the I, it sounded like the
child fell off a bike and the
woman threw a bottle at the
child at first.
Oh, saying you can't believe you
fell off the bike, you deserve
to get hit.
But the woman fell off the bike
and the child went to help her.
Help, lady.
And then then the child gets
bottles thrown and then matrix
matrices the bottles she pulls.
Off the knee, attacked by the
child.
Yep, sounds about Florida.
What?
What county or city is this in?
Fort Walton Beach up in the
Panhandle.
Really.
Yes, wasn't sound like a
horrible place.
You ever been to Fort Walton
Beach?
Nope.
Wow, pretty nice up there.
Yeah, it's a nice area.
You think there's beer bottle
checking women?
Bear bottle well.
Almost certain from.
The photo I saw, she looked like
she checked beer bottles with
people.
Yeah, she got a mullet, or does
she have long hair?
No, I believe it wasn't mullet.
So she got the shaved sides.
Right.
Business in front, party in the
back right.
Some real David.
Parties in their hands too.
There you go.
All right, now the the war has
gone too far.
Gentlemen, the world's top
condom maker is raising prices
due to the Iran war.
The war or the Olympics, The.
War Why would the Olympics raise
prices?
Don't you remember there was a
shortage?
They ran out of.
Condoms they ran out of them,
doesn't mean they're going to
raise the price.
Maybe they did.
The Olympics are over.
Maybe there are Olympic gold
medal condoms?
No, I don't think so.
I don't haven't heard of this
brand considering they're the
world's top condom producer.
How many condoms do you use?
Condoms.
I don't have to use condoms.
I'm married, right?
So I'm married.
I've been fixed.
You've been fixed.
Nope.
We're not using none of those.
You know, when you're married,
you just don't have sex anymore,
so.
Right, You're not like you
always have sex anymore anyway.
So the world's top condom
producer announced it planned to
raise its prices up to 30% or
more if supply distributors
caused by the Iran war continue,
Carex CEO Go Miha Kat told
Reuters.
I don't know where the hell this
country is this company is.
It sounds like Cambodia or
something.
Told Reuters that it saw a surge
in condom demands amid rising
freight costs and shipping
delay.
So there's a high demand for
condoms right now.
Where?
These condoms made it it.
Doesn't say.
I guess I'm.
Boots, look up KAREX, see where
their Home Office is.
Bill, sorry, I got your name
wrong.
Situation is definitely very
fragile.
Prices are expensive.
We have no choice but to
transfer the cost right now to
the customers, Go Goh told
Reuters.
Go.
Goh go.
Malaysia.
Malaysia.
Port Kalang, Selangor, Malaysia.
Malaysia has to travel through
the Strait of Hormuz to deliver
condoms.
Well, no, but they use petroleum
to make condoms.
That's that makes sense now.
Right, that's why that's the
problem.
Apparently the Iranians have the
best condom petroleum.
Who knew?
Did you find out anything else
interesting?
Because the show's almost over.
Oh, it said we're at 15 minutes.
There's also another company
with that name located in
Poland.
Maybe we should call Greg.
Oh, I.
Don't think you'll know.
No, must be a different.
Company.
They can also be an hat EI
Thailand, they have another
factory there.
Oh.
I can see why I use a lot of
condoms over there.
Right, I can see that too.
Nothing in Africa.
I think it's where they would
need them.
Really.
Oh, why not?
Because there's a high level of
AIDS in Africa.
Is there?
Yes, we've been over this
already.
The world's highest.
Oh, he doesn't get out much.
Well, well, they don't use
condoms.
But if they did, there wouldn't
be so many aids.
Yeah, but they just don't use
them.
I mean, why would you put a
factory there?
I mean.
So they they would use them.
I think you would like more put
like a pimp business there than.
Sure, there's those too.
Look at you, racist.
Pimp.
Yes.
How's that race?
Not a lot of white pimps out
there.
Right.
Well, maybe you're looking for a
career change there, Phil.
Listen, if I could do that and
and not be illegal, yeah.
Well, in Africa you probably
would.
Not illegal.
I'm sure there's something.
As long as you film it, it's not
illegal.
As long as you film it.
Is that the line you?
If you transact money for sex,
it's illegal, but if you film
it, it's entertainment.
Oh right, porn.
Wow, I never thought of that.
I haven't either.
He's all, he's pretty good set
up over there.
Yeah, all right.
Former Mr. Beast staffer accuses
Youtubers company of sexism and
leave violations.
Oh.
If you work for them, don't you
sort of assume that kind of
stuff's going to happen?
Sex what?
I don't know he's, I mean he's
like Mr. Goody 2 shoes with all
his philanthropy and stuff.
Sexism and leave violations A
woman who used to work for
popular YouTube star Mr. Beast
is suing his company over
allegations that she experienced
sexual harassment during her
employment and was wrongfully
terminated following the return
from parental leave.
All right, I need a picture of
the lady and I need to know what
was said.
There's no picture of the lady
and there's nothing they they
don't say.
Which staff member we talk about
like.
Well, look up Lorraine
MAVROMATIS.
That's the woman claiming sexual
harassment.
Yes.
What was the last name MAT?
VMAVROMATIS.
And which staff member are we
talking about?
A camera guy, a logistics guy,
or like one of the main
characters.
Nope, she's just a girl who
works in the office.
Eastern Division of North
Carolina on Wednesday against
Mr. Beast YouTube LLC and Game
Changer 24/7 LLC, which are both
owned by the content creator
whose real name is Jimmy
Donaldson.
I mean, she's, she's pretty.
She's not ugly.
She's seeking so if she was ugly
it would be pointless.
Maybe kind of right, that's the
way it goes.
Yeah, like, I know that's pretty
shallow, but I mean.
She's described as a rising star
who was promoted twice between
20/24/2022 and 2024 before
sexual harassment complaint and
pregnancy resulted in alleged
retaliation in the form of a
demotion and eventual
termination in November.
When asked by NBC News why she
decided to take legal action,
she said.
I think the most importantly, I
became a mother.
Oh yeah, she's Brazilian.
She needed money.
Yeah, she, she's mad 'cause she
got fired.
I have a daughter now and I do
not want to be silenced anymore,
she said an interview after the
suit was filed.
I really want to use my voice to
bring awareness.
We're in 2026 and things like
this are still happening.
A company spokesman told news
NBC News on Wednesday that the
suit is based on deliberate
misrepresentation and
categorical false statements.
There is exclusive evidence,
including Slack and WhatsApp
messages.
So somebody made offhanded text
messages.
Her songs that she's known,
she's a singer.
The songs that she's known for
are kind of weird but maybe fit
in this this whole scenario.
Her songs are I'll Be Bad,
Dahlia, Half Past Love, close
Tonight and Gone.
Oops, she's gone now, Yeah.
It's like working for Who is the
group back in the 80's, the
Johnny Knoxville.
Oh Jackass.
It's like working for Jackass to
go.
They threw something at me or,
you know, they hit me in the
face with a pie.
Yeah, like if the Midget was
assumed.
Right.
The Midget grabbed my butt.
Yeah.
Kind of what these guys do.
Didn't didn't Howard Stern have
like some of his people?
So like, didn't Robin too?
Robin Quivers.
Yeah, I don't know.
Why don't you look it up on your
phone right there?
That would be Robin.
After 20 years of watching women
perform sexual acts in front of
her like she draws I I've
experienced sexual harassment on
this show.
I didn't see it coming.
Like Midget touching her where
she draws the line.
Yeah, I thought they thought
they were.
Stuffing.
I don't know.
Mr. B's channels.
He's a pretty ethical guy.
Yeah, his stuff's not usually
sexual one when he not.
Even a little bit.
Just a tad.
Nobody's naked or anything.
Like he's even trying to redo
the whole chocolate industry
ethically like these large
chocolate chocolate suppliers.
And he's like, I will pay extra
if you don't use child labor.
And they're like, no, no, I
won't use the kids.
Yeah, Nope.
They're like the kids.
Look at them scurry up that
tree.
Yeah, yeah, there's a lady.
Suing him right now, suing Mr.
Beast.
No.
Howard Stern, Howard.
Stern, Leslie.
Yeah, Leslie, we covered that
story a couple.
Of weeks ago, yeah, his
assistant.
Assistant hostile work.
Environment.
Yeah, that's why I popped.
I was like, I thought there was
somebody soon.
I can see that.
He became real weird when he
became a shut in during COVID.
He became all right.
I was.
Told you have a video for us
today there LA.
Oh yes.
Check your phones, I am sending
that over right now.
Turn your volume up.
It's is there music?
No.
I think it's talking.
I actually didn't watch it.
I'm going to watch it with you
guys.
Oh.
Wait, it hasn't sent?
Yet hasn't sent yet I'm.
Not on the WI.
Fi well, no.
Even if you weren't on the
Wi-Fi, I still wouldn't have
sent.
Yeah, it's a minute and 13
seconds long, so we're in The
Cave.
All right, now it's sent there
it is 0 turn the.
Sound in Governor's.
Mansion visit to the mayor's
office.
Our membership is freely
remarkable staff board of
directors premiums regarding
this three years of family.
It's the best in the world now I
think a better organization
represent.
I think everyone was energized
after the trade show.
You know, it was exhausting.
Got a lot of travel coming up
every three days in DC doing
some events with Nick Hammond
and then off to Oslo, Norway,
Vienna, Austria and Bratislava,
Slovakia and a little bit of R&R
at the F1 Pre.
I want to thank all of our
speaker sponsors, anybody that
attended the trade show.
We're going to continue to build
off of the produced this year,
affect things, change things a
little better and you know,
short less than 11 months.
We'll be back in Las Vegas for
PCA 2027.
I don't.
Can't hear?
Him.
Can't hear him?
He didn't seem to say anything
that interesting.
I think.
Who's Michael?
Michael's trying to make this
show pretty boring.
That's.
Joshua Haberski, the president
of the PCA.
That was Joshua.
Herburski Yes, that was Joshua.
That's the president of the PCA.
With the backwards hat.
Yeah, with the backwards hat.
And the chain and all the he
looks like a pan handler.
I'm.
Sorry, I thought, you know
what's the one guy that owns
Fioretega?
Michael Herklotz.
Michael Herklotz.
I felt it was somebody that kind
of looked like him.
It used to be Scott.
Pierce and he was like suit and
tie.
Yeah, he kind of looked like
Michael.
Herklotz with the suit and tie.
Really.
He's now with the CAA.
Actually, you guys are.
Talking about doppelgangers,
about Michael being mistaken for
Matt Booth.
Yes, I.
Got mistaken.
So Hard for Scott Pierce by
Steve Saka.
Really.
So, Steve.
You know on.
Day three.
Steve likes to hit the bottle,
right?
Yeah.
So I walked in late on day
three.
It's not a secret.
He's he's right, Right.
Right.
And I.
Walk into the booth and he's
like Scott, I have, I have some
policy questions I would like to
ask you.
And I was like Steve, cause I've
been getting it all day.
Everyone's like Scott, Scott,
Scott, you know, Nimish from
Rocky Patel thought I was Scott.
So at this point I'm used to it.
So I'm like, Steve, look, what
are you in like 1 of the top,
bottom 1% of our investors here,
you know, it's.
Like I don't, I don't.
Think you really deserve the
time of day.
And he's like, Scott, what's
going on?
He's like, I'm just saying,
Steve, a lot of a lot of people,
the big questions, they're also
having, you know, some big money
in their pockets.
That's all I'm saying.
And he was like just
dumbfounded.
He couldn't believe it.
And then David Lafferty is vice
president.
President.
He came up and he's like, Steve,
that's law.
And he goes, oh, you.
Words I can't.
Say on this podcast any longer
if he didn't know and he said.
Writes a nasty e-mail.
Were you wearing a suit and.
Everything Oh yeah, yeah, you
don't go to PCA like this
you're.
Gonna have to describe what.
You're looking at, you're on.
The camera I mean, with those
cut off slings.
Well, I do now.
I do now.
I'm the Camacho guy now.
You mean when you went?
As as myself in.
Media when I was had the the
YouTube channel OK.
I'm sorry I'm I was completely
lost on this whole thing.
OK, so this is back in the day.
Yeah, this is.
Three years ago.
OK, Oh, it wasn't this.
Year.
No.
Oh, I thought it was this year.
No.
It was Scott Pierce's last year.
The PC gotcha.
That's hilarious.
So this video, I mean, he needs
to cough up for a microphone,
yeah.
And a.
Sue and well we talked about.
He wears vintage suits.
He had one on every day.
This is obviously after the
show.
He's a little more relaxed.
He's that's true out on the
street.
Just doing a thank you video.
What is K St. his?
His handle's Wolf of K St.
He looks like Ron.
Weasley, he doesn't look like
that's exactly what it looks.
Like, yeah, he.
Doesn't.
Yeah, Ron Weasley with a.
Mustache.
He said he was going to come by
and chitchat and set up a time
to come do the show, but he just
came by and go.
Everything good, everything
good, everything good, and then
kept walking.
All right, well.
Next.
Year expect an uninvite from the
show after he listens to this.
Oh.
Good boy.
Well, he's trying to get to that
Camacho.
That was the Camacho guy.
Post Tonya still loves you so
it's fine.
You're a cute little fella.
Cute.
Little wow, he's he's.
Shorter than.
Me.
Really.
Yes.
Wow.
All.
Right on the cigar news, Viaje
is bringing back geisha
jalapenos and fat jalapenos.
Oh.
Oh, Viaje's next shipment?
To retailers will contain 4
cigars, including the Geisha, a
pair of cigars that hasn't been
released.
It sort of hurts.
It looks painful.
Released.
Since the line debuted in July
2022, also the box will be the
the Viaje Jalapeno and the Fat
Jalapeno, part of the company
series dedicated to Peppers.
The Geisha comes in two blends,
1 using a Nicaraguan Corojo 99
wrapper and the other using the
Mexican San Andreas Maduro
wrapper.
While the company has not yet
released details about the blend
of this year's version, the
debut version pictured above, no
picture here, use Nicaraguan
tobacco for both the binder and
the fillers.
It comes in a 6 by 6 3/4 by 52
Perfecto Vitola, which each box
containing 14 of each blend for
a total of 28 cigars.
See if they.
Have the price, it's a pretty.
Unfortunate release there.
The geisha jalapenos sounds like
something you'd find in
Thailand.
Yeah, well, the.
Jalapenos coming out a couple of
years in a row.
They're adding the fat jalapeno
this year.
The geisha is a separate.
Cigar Geisha is a separate.
Cigar.
It's not the geisha jalapeno.
No, no price I.
Know when you put them.
Side by side, yeah.
Well it's it's funny how they
don't release any information
about the geisha like you don't
know, no pricing.
Released on anything Nobody
knows geishas.
Cost a lot of money.
Yeah, but they're still.
Virgins.
Is that the rule?
I don't know, I saw that.
Movie Mars of a geisha.
So I'm an expert now, right?
Oh.
Good movie law.
Expert on geishas.
UK bans anyone?
Born after 20 or 2008 from
buying tobacco products.
What?
Do you think?
I'm just glad we live.
In America, it's yeah, the king
is like, no more cigars for you.
After nearly 5.
Years United Kingdom landmark
generational tobacco ban will
soon become law.
Not that law.
Give it law.
There's no law.
With black law, sorry on
Tuesday.
Parliament approved the tobacco.
It'd be funny for your middle
language Parliament, yeah.
Approve the tobacco.
And Vapes Bill with some minor
amendments, meaning that has now
moved into the very last step of
the process, the total ascent.
Once approved by the monarch,
the bill will become law and a
monumental move.
Anyone born after 2008 will no
longer be able to purchase
tobacco and vaping products in
the UK forever.
So I guess they don't take back
their laws ever.
So when do you?
When do you turn 18 if you're
born in 2008?
2026, right?
I don't know, Phil.
Figure that out. 2028 I'm.
Sorry, I wasn't.
You're born in 2000. 8 When do
you turn 18?
Well. 10 would be 2026, so they
would.
Be banned from smoking this
year.
This year.
Type of ban is known as a
generational tobacco ban because
it aimed at making tobacco free
generation with a weird quirk
because the bill has taken so
long to pass some people who are
currently able to legally
purchase tobacco products in the
UK will lose that right after
the bill goes into effect so go
buy more now so if you're born
in. 2007 you can still buy
tobacco the rest of your life.
Yes, but 2000 and. 8 screwed.
Currently in the minimum.
Age The purchase is 18, though
the smoking age in is 16 in
England and Wales.
Whether some?
Hope the specially scary tailors
would receive some concessions
that did not happen.
Instead, the approved amendments
had to deal with how the new law
at that law would be implemented
in Wales.
The bill of greatly expand
ability for the health ministers
to reduce further regulations.
I'm getting my eyes are getting
blurrier as we go.
Regulations of.
Somebody just texted me stroke.
I just got a text too.
Regulations of.
Tobacco and also nicotine
products as it often the case,
handmade cigars can become
unintended victims of laws that
seek to reduce the consumption
of cigarettes vapes.
Cigar retailers have raised
concerns about how the new law
will impact the business, many
of which are already struggling
due to the UK high tax and
therefore the high cigar prices.
Now we're going to skip ahead.
This is getting dull.
You know what's crazy?
Is like they didn't ban smoking,
they just banned the purchase of
the product.
Well, if you can't buy.
It you can't smoke it, that's
not true.
Yeah, I guess.
Someone born in 2007 could just
hand you one, right?
Or you could just go.
Buy them in the next country
that.
Too.
Or you can.
Have them shipped.
To you sounds like a good.
Say like.
Finaluca black market.
There, Yeah, they just don't
make these.
I mean, we've gone over this how
many times with all these
different places they make these
rules.
And it's like you didn't ban the
actual act of smoking.
You tried to, but you messed
that up.
Right.
All you did is make it harder to
get.
There'll be plenty of.
Time for that to get overturned,
right?
I don't know if do they?
Overturn laws in the UK or they
Well, what happens?
Is if a new king or queen or
whoever Prime Minister or
whatever comes into effect, then
they make their own rules,
right?
Or a new parliament?
Yeah, we need to get some cigar
shop owners in Parliament.
I'm sure they all smoke.
Of course they do.
Yeah, they didn't stop Reagan.
From smoking Cubans, right?
All right, time for the
industry.
'S favorite game What's the?
Score today's.
First Cigar, October 1st, 2014.
Charlie Manatos is the reviewer.
It is a Honduran cigar.
It is the Camacho Liberty 2014.
Oh.
So nothing.
New so that way law can't cheat,
right?
After one of the.
Odds he's gone back and read
these I've.
I've not read this one, that's
for sure.
All I know is.
Charlie Minato is the harshest
reviewer over there.
So really you think that?
I know that.
I've broken down all the scores
we've had over the years and
made graphs really.
Yeah, I feel like.
Charlie's the nicest one.
He's the nicest.
Person.
He's the harshest reviewer.
He's only given that one. 99
Ever.
Yeah, but nobody else has.
Oh, sure they have they've.
Given out multiple 90 nines.
Really.
Yep, Charlie's the only one
that's.
Done one and he's never given
out a 98 or 97 before.
Oh, I.
Didn't know that.
Right, guys.
Give me a score I'm going to go
with.
It's a Camacho he's going to be.
They probably put a lot of money
on half wheel that doesn't
affect anything.
Doesn't affect anything at half
wheel.
No, we actually.
Got below average reviews last
year.
I'm going to say 80. 9 I.
Was going to go with 80. 9 too,
being that I know the liberties,
you can go 89.
Yeah, I've never.
Responded all right.
So go reviews.
Come out show Liberty 2014 is
from Honduras is the agro
industrial lape SA rappers
Ecuadorian habano binder
undisclosed carrojo filler
Dominican Republic in Nicaragua
Size 6 inches ringgage 4854 and
48 vitola 11 by 18 perfecto They
smoked 3 in fact.
The 11:18.
Has nothing to do with the size
that's Christian or Rose's
mother's birthday.
Oh, oh, nice.
That's why I named.
That size, That size I didn't.
Know that.
Is Christian a nice guy?
Don't know, never met him.
Me either.
Whose toe's lovely?
Yeah, whose toe's nice?
I.
Hear Christian's very nice I.
See his Facebook all the time.
He rolling cigars all the time.
I'm a stick 89.
Nothing changes.
Yep, same.
Clear number.
One, the flavor complexity has
its moments.
Notes like Coco, Sweet Grain,
Captain Crunch pie crust, and
even a surprisingly smooth retro
hail of nuts, saltiness and
espresso show there's depth
trying to breakthrough.
Is it Coco?
Nibs or Coco?
Because if it's Coco nibs, it's
Coco no?
Nibs, yeah, but this isn't.
What's his name?
I'm going to drop down to 80. 8.
Really.
Yeah, this.
Didn't seem too thrilled about
it.
We go 89, the number 2.
Construction holds up well
overall.
Above average smoke production,
a steady burn that doesn't
require touch ups, and a solid
reliable draw make it an easily
an easy cigar to physically
smoke. 90 Wow good construction
it is I'm.
Going to go.
I'm going to stick at 89.
Third clue the.
Profile is overwhelmingly
dominated by harsh pepper and
strength, which drowns out the
more nuanced flavors and makes
the experience feel unbalanced
and fatiguing 80. 7.
Go stay 89.
I've smoked a few.
Strong cigars this year and one
is the final thought, ones that
were truly stronger than the
pack and the Camacho.
Liberty 2014 definitely falls
into that exclusive club.
If you ever were concerned that
the company obsessed with the
bold.
Was not bold.
Enough.
The Liberty 2014 should change
your mind.
Unfortunately, it's an
unbalanced cigar.
It seems more interested in the
delivery delivering nicotine
than the sensible flavors.
For too long.
The profile is a monotonous
delivery of harsh pepper,
drowning out otherwise
interesting flavors.
Camacho is making some great
cigars, including one of my
favorites new cigars of the
year, but this is not one of
them.
Going down to 86.
Charlie's so hard.
To read.
There's no teriyaki or anything
in this either. 85 Oh wow.
What did you say, 86?
You went the right.
Way.
Yeah, 70. 8 Good Lord, he
really.
Did not like it.
He did not like that.
Wow all.
Right, we have a second cigar
today by Patrick Lagreed.
Patrick he's.
Also a Honduran.
Cigar, the Camacho power band,
robusto.
I know Brooks is.
Brooks is nibs.
Brooks is.
Cocoa nibs, yeah.
Let's go.
I'll start at 85. 87 Cigar
Review the.
Camacho Power Band Robusto from
Honduras.
Factory Argo Industria.
Lepe SA Rapper Ecuadorian Habano
2000.
Binder Mexican San Andreas
Negrito Miller, Honduran Corojo
Lajaro Nicaraguan Esta Lee
Lajaro, Dominican San Vincent
Lajaro San Vincent Viso and
Dominican Pilotto Cubano.
Sounds pretty strong. 5 by. 50
Robusto $11.00.
They smoked 3.
Oh Patrick, I'm sticking with my
80.
Seven.
OK, Yeah, 80.
Five.
I'll stick with 85.
He said 87.
Oh, sorry, sorry.
The cold's affecting.
Your hearing isn't it?
My ears and my eyes, no.
Oh, he's got he's.
He's just slowly dying.
I'm dying so.
You don't have Ebola.
Yeah.
Maybe who?
Knows were you?
Were you sick?
When you got to the show.
No, Mikey got a sick in the car
on the way there.
That's.
What a what a So 10 hours in the
car.
Of him going without covering
his mouth with the windows up,
you know, and then sabotage
your.
Whole sales force, yes, yeah,
you.
Wipe this all out.
Like, you know what?
I don't want to do this show
make money, right?
Exactly.
Let me just poison my whole
team, all right?
Clue.
Number one, there's a really
engaging flavor progression,
especially the syrupy apple
sweetness mixed with Maple like
notes and pepper, giving the
cigar a unique dynamic profile
throughout.
Wow, it's.
Delicious.
Yeah, I mean it.
Does by that I would go to 90
Maple Y apple I'm.
Going to jump to 89 Clue number
two.
Overall balance and
constructions are strong.
The burn stays mostly even, ash
holds well, and the cigar
manages intensity without
constantly becoming harsh, which
is impressive for a bold blend.
I mean, it sounds great too.
I'm a stick at 90.
I'm going to jump to. 91 The
final third loses.
Some of its appeal with the
sweetness disappearing and the
profile drifting into slightly
off putting, almost sour
metallic territory.
Drop it back down to. 88.
Sorry, I had some technical.
Difficulties, difficulties here.
What happened?
Got ashes all over myself and
the microphone the triple
Maderos has.
Sabotaged you?
Yeah, you did.
I'm had to say at 90 because I
don't know what was said.
Excellent.
Final thought, sometimes the
best cigars come from the most
unlikely of presentations.
Well, I've generally enjoyed
Camacho's offerings.
I can't say that I would have
pegged the Power Band to offer
the balance, complexity and
flavor profile that it did.
While the bands may suggest this
is all about image hype and
appealing to a certain lifestyle
segment.
Excuse.
Me.
The blend underneath those two
pieces of paper is remarkable.
It is strong yet balanced, bold
yet impressive, impressively
complex and yet fine-tuned in
terms of construction and
flavor.
While the strength in pepper may
be too much for some, it is a
brilliant match for my palate
and a cigar.
I look forward to smoking quite
a few more in the near future.
I'm going.
To go to 91 after that.
This is the final thought.
That was the final thought.
Wow, you said 91?
Yep.
Doesn't get much better.
Than that. 92.
Oh, he hits it on.
The nose 92.
I wanted to say 90. 2 but I'm
like, it's still half wheel.
They're still pretty harsh.
I didn't know which way.
To go to be honest.
What'd you guys?
Show at the PCA showing anything
good coming out?
Yeah, I was.
I was.
Listening to yesterday's episode
and I know when you're in your
booth you don't know what's
going on, but I have no idea.
We actually.
Had.
Davidoff at his first core line
launch in nine years?
Oh no.
Avo's first core line launch in
five years and Zeno's first core
line launch his second blend in
four years.
What is?
Avo releasing it's called the.
Expressivo, which is the first
Honduran made AVO and it's a
strong cigar too.
Yeah, yeah.
I like.
The.
We have the liberty. 250 but
it's so it's an event only cigar
gotcha.
We've made very it's might be
the most limited run of liberty
ever.
Oh wow we made only made 17
thousand 7760O17. 76 Yep, very
nice.
So they're coming. 10 count
bundles.
It's got American Tobacco on it,
American American rapper Crow Ho
Binder, American fillers,
Nicaraguan hunters also nice.
And you said the.
Name of that was what?
The Liberty 250.
Oh, OK.
So.
And what's?
The what's the gauge?
Oh.
It's actually like one of my
favorite sizes ever.
It's a 56 by 6.
Wow, OK.
Or a six.
By 56, I guess that's fine.
Yeah, that's fine, you said.
It thrown away and threw me off,
yeah. 6 by 56.
Threw me off.
Where are you?
Going to be next.
We're going to be able to find
you.
That's a good.
Question.
I think I'm flying out to
California to kick off the tour.
And then do you drive a black?
Van though I I get to.
Fly in planes like a real human.
Yeah, that's what it.
Yeah, it didn't.
Sound like a van?
Sound like a winged thing.
Did it come out to a plane?
You could you could call it
that.
You could call it.
I don't have a budget.
Like that anymore?
Gotcha, I understand.
What?
What was your favorite part
about the show?
Oh, I don't know, 'cause you
know.
When you're on the manufacturing
side, you're just stuck in your
your zoo exhibit and you can't
leave really zoo exhibit you
didn't go to like.
Any of the like the after
parties or the pre things?
We had a Davidoff.
Party we had our soiree which
was really cool really good nice
oh we.
We didn't.
Get a invitation.
Yeah, only reason I got invited.
Because I was cutting lighting
cigars for people.
So, I mean, you worked there,
Yeah.
Somebody's got to park their
cars, yeah.
We did have a.
Couple party crashers.
One of the guests spread in some
ladies from the street who were
trying to party crash and.
We have a off duty.
Cop doing security for us, great
guy.
And he goes, oh, I see you're
bringing your daughters in.
And he goes, yes Sir, he goes,
great.
Put your wallet in your front
pocket.
Wow.
Well, that sounds like a great
party.
We only went to the.
To the opening night party
Friday night.
I didn't even make it.
I was.
Setting up our booth seal.
So sadly second.
Year in a row I've missed it and
I heard it's great party yeah we
didn't go last year we.
Went this year.
It was a lot of fun.
Oh, good chance to see customers
and stuff that you don't
normally see and they walk up to
you like Hey, how you doing?
Right, I'm so and so that's my
last chance.
To do it and then next two
years, well, it'll be a party
next year.
Yeah, but the the Vegas.
Parties are not the same, no
'cause they're.
Indoors.
They're indoors.
We'll see how it goes.
Hopefully dead by.
Then so.
It's always seemed like.
A dystopian party before, I
guess people just kind of zombie
around, say hi and then leave,
right?
Yeah, outside's a different
vibe.
That's because everybody's.
Waiting to go gamble.
That too, yeah.
Right, right.
Yeah, we just.
I mean, it was work, eat, sleep,
work, eat, sleep, work, sleep.
That's all it was.
Yep, that's how it is.
I miss the media side where it's
go where you want, talk to who
you want, hang out schedules on
your own time.
You have a good time on the on
the manufacturer side is work,
work, work, work, right?
Sure it is.
So you're not doing.
Any social media stuff for
Camacho at all?
I was.
Actually in charge of all our
media.
So everyone that came, I brought
them to all the ambassadors,
hooked them up with meetings,
guided them around, told him I
was new so and I was busy.
We had a lot of media.
It was seems like a lot more
media than last year.
What was in that little?
House in the middle, that was
our.
Ava room, we had a a bar in
there with a we had an energy
drink mocktail and came with
like a little bubble in it that
had lime air.
So you'd pop the bubble, inhale
the air and drink the the energy
shot at once.
It was pretty cool.
It looked pretty cool.
It was.
Very cool.
Did you guys win an award?
No.
I thought.
I saw a picture on Facebook.
You guys won an award.
They stopped by to.
Say hi while they were carrying
the award sign and we're like,
oh, we won best booth and
they're like, oh, never mind, we
need to keep going.
Who got best booth?
Who was it?
I forgot it was.
All to this.
That's right, I.
Didn't see their booth.
Either it it was, it was.
Weird.
This year, it's like nobody saw
anyone's booth, right?
I did a lap around.
I said hi to Terence and the one
time I went.
By he was busy yeah, said hi to.
Pete Johnson, Matt Booth, all
them said not at Pete Johnson,
Matt Booth, Eric Espinosa.
But it just the layout this year
didn't seem like as much fun as
previous years.
Yeah, they stacked them.
Pretty deep going back very
deep.
It's like and really close.
Together.
Yeah.
It's like if you're on one side.
Of the show, the other side
doesn't exist, right?
Right.
All right, Phil, you got
anything?
Else Nope.
I want to show you circumcision.
Nope.
All right, all right,
everybody's been 5. 116 of the
cigars for broadcast.
Thanks.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Thank you a lot.
For coming on, yes, my pleasure.
Glad I drove 2 hours here to do
a 40 minute show.
We can keep going.
Yeah, yeah, let's get in, mom,
or show them those porno videos
that you said that you were
doing or something.
They're just the.
The B rolls from your show just
the B roll.
Wow, he was my stunt.
Double, you know.
Somebody's got to.
Do it.
I got a bigger Dick.
Oh.
All right.
Bye.
All right.
Bye.
Demonetized.
Show Notes
On todays show we have the huckster tell all, Florida woman picks a fight with a toddler, Now The War Has Gone To Far!,Mr Beast may have went to far then in cigars , Viaje is bringing it back and the UK Bans Smoking! And then a double what’s the score!