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April 29, 2026· 51m

ACHP Episode 519 The Asian Worms Attack

ACHP Episode 519 The Asian Worms Attack

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Here we go.

Welcome to a Cigar Hustler

podcast episode 519.

I'm Mike Farmer, your host, and

with me today in engineering is

Phil Mcguffey.

Hello.

Oh no.

No, not today.

We're we got some serious

business.

Oh, and then it's my Co host

with a new feature.

What's on Mikey's mind?

Mike Stefan Kovic, I.

What's on Mikey's?

Mind, let's go into the 1st.

Oh, I thought, I swear I had you

set up to do it.

I want to do the chapter pod,

all that stuff, and then we'll

break into it.

That's the way I had it set.

Up.

Sorry.

On today's show, Asian jumping

worms are here.

Icon Park has been taking over.

Jimmy Kimmel is back in trouble,

of course.

Taylor Swift has been granted A

trademark.

Oh, and then in cigars, I found

some news.

There are some news.

There's some news.

Well, it might be.

It might be a little old news,

but there is still news.

Thank the Lord.

There's always news.

There's always, well, no, not

always news.

There has been news.

You are the news anchor.

You discovered the news I.

Discovered the news all right

before we get started though,

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Lots of comments.

There's a lot of comments

lately.

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Love when you're prepared.

Oh, I have.

T Money gave us hats by the way.

They're in the car I got.

We'll do them on the next show

You got hats for.

Us Sorry T.

Thank you, T.

I'll make sure that we do them

on the next show.

They're here, but I'm running

late.

I love you.

He's mad at you.

What?

He's mad at you.

He's mad at me.

Should be a comment.

T money says I don't know what

I'm talking about.

Wow.

There you go.

That was it, me.

Yeah, you yesterday you said he

didn't know what he's talking

about.

Oh, he doesn't.

Now you're on the list.

Oh.

Something Phil was doing and you

said, well, T Money doesn't know

what he's talking.

About.

Oh, I think we're talking about

sports, probably.

Sorry T love you.

Now you're on the list.

I'm off.

Plus you forgot the hats.

Oh, you're so on his list.

Didn't block his number.

No, don't block it.

He.

Said no 'cause then he calls me.

Don't block his number.

Oh, now you're on the list.

Back on the list like that damn

it at Miguel Rocha 7487 says

rest Medicaid, quarantine

sheesh, we don't have time for

any of.

That time for that.

Yeah, we have to get you guys a

show.

What you guys do in your

company?

Yeah, we don't have time for

that.

Mr. Fancy Suit.

Brett Mercurio says the same

thing.

You guys need to quarantine in

the abandoned Sloth World

building.

Oh yeah, that'd be.

Nice, that would be nice.

Yeah, there's no power, no

water, no electricity.

Yeah, it wouldn't be.

Maybe it wouldn't be that.

We'll die, we'll get cold snap

or what is called.

Cold Stun L Wolpi Boy Jason, we

appreciate the hard work y'all

put in to the show every day but

damn take a couple days off and

get some rest.

We will survive without the show

for a day or two.

No, they'll watch something

else.

Never surrender.

Here's gonna, here's.

I'm gonna surrender.

Never give up.

I'm gonna let you in on a little

secret.

We won't survive without you.

You might survive without us,

but we won't survive without

you.

So we're gonna.

We're on it.

We're and we're gonna deliver,

even if we're half a person.

Yeah, we're trying to get to

1000 before Palmer dies, so.

1000 episodes.

Yeah, better hurry up.

Ruckus on Jane says Mikey is

patient zero in this scenario.

Yes, I am.

Nope, Preston.

Oh yeah, he blames Preston.

Real Smoke Pod says the look and

sound of panic when Phil almost

took out the show was priceless.

Yeah, keep those feedback.

I would say feel better, but

every time I do, Mikey gets

worse.

Yeah, thanks bro.

I appreciate you guys.

That was a pretty funny, funny

portion of the show.

When utter panic sets in.

But I'm on the man, man.

I got antibiotics now, so we're

rolling today.

Not.

Not contagious.

I don't think I, I don't think

I've been contagious for a

while.

OK.

If you want to hear your comment

on the show, possibly comment on

the show, comment below on this

episode and and maybe we'll read

it off in the next one.

Now to get on with the show.

Asian jumping worms have been

present in some parts of the

country for more than a century,

but this threat is growing as

they move West.

It's What are you laughing at

over there?

Chuckles.

What a story.

Asian jumping worms cannot be

eradicated.

You can't kill them, really.

Yes, they chew up the ground and

make it look like coffee

grounds.

Really.

Yes.

People are texting me.

You can't kill them.

No.

What happens when you top them

up?

Well, that way you can step on

them, but there's no pesticide

or anything that kills them.

What about?

Acid, yeah.

Well, that's going to ruin the

ground.

You can't put your plants.

Down.

Hey, listen.

If you pour acid all over your

vegetable garden, you can't grow

vegetables.

We got to go Nagasaki.

We got to go Nagasaki, you know

what I'm saying?

Well, they have shown up now in

the Colorado and the Colorado

Department of Agriculture.

Asian jumping worms are red to

brown colored and can grow up to

6 inches in length.

They are known as crazy worms,

snake worms and Georgia jumpers.

They actually jump Georgia

jumpers.

Yes, they first arrived in the

US and from Asia in the 1800s,

most likely from imported plants

and agricultural products.

Their name comes from the

behavior when disturbed, they

thrash, spring into the air and

even shed their tails to escape.

Wow.

These are terrible things.

We got to jump.

Fortunately, they are not in

Florida.

Why are they not in Florida?

It's too hot.

They don't like it here.

Too hot.

Too hot across the Midwest.

Well, hey I.

Guess we're safe.

We're safe down here for the

moment, but still they're in the

northeast, South of East

Northwest.

But they've been spreading in

recent years, more recent

appearing in West Coast and

Canada.

So they're going north, they're

not coming South.

Sorry, John.

They're going to the 51st state.

They're going to the 51st state.

We're fine.

We're good down here.

OK.

All right, did you see on the

news where the Icon park was

taken over by teenagers?

No.

They did one of those takeover

things.

You know where Icon Park is?

In Florida.

Yeah, down on I Drive, where the

big The Wheel is and the other

stuff.

Thousands of teenagers converged

in Icon Park.

Really.

And then there were riots and

fights and nine teenagers were

arrested.

Why did they do this?

It's a thing teens do.

They do a takeover.

That's all.

They all, they somebody, I don't

know who organizes these things,

but somebody picks a place, they

all go there and they cause

mischief and mayhem.

OK, only nine got arrested.

Yeah, only nine.

They were the slow ones,

fighting they.

Were fighting, they were

fighting.

They were the aggressive ones or

the slow ones was everywhere.

Yeah, ones that couldn't escape.

Right, One of the parents is

complaining that their child was

roughed up a little bit by the

police.

Yeah, I.

Don't care, I'm gonna rough him

up.

Which hooligan was it?

Which you went specifically in

the name?

No, they're not releasing the

name, but his last name started

with an H, they said.

Oh.

Hipp.

Wow, wow.

It's as close as I can get to

his name.

I don't know where.

I don't know where to go from

there.

Interesting.

But what are you done if you

were down there?

I mean, I'll sudden you're there

with your family and all of a

sudden all these kids, just they

all come in at one time.

It's not like onesie twosie show

up.

They all like, arrive and then

come in like ants.

You ever see Man on Fire?

Yeah.

Denzel Washington.

I wish you had more time.

You're going to put a bomb up

somebody?

'S where he's leaving, he's

trying to get out of the club.

He starts firing the round of

the shotgun in the air.

Oh.

Is that what you're going to do?

That's how you clear him out.

That's how you clear him out,

baby.

Boom.

I don't remember the part Palmer

was talking.

Hey, he's.

Got the guy strapped on the hood

of the car.

Yeah, trying to get information

from.

Him, he already got it from him

and they said one, one more

wish, one more wish.

I wish you had more.

Time and then he blows up.

They're making the show on

Netflix.

TV.

Yeah, I saw that.

Is it Christy beforehand?

Yeah, it's.

Supposed to be him before.

It's a prequel.

It's a prequel.

It's got to be because he gets

killed at the end of.

The movie?

Well, not You don't know that.

He's been shot 4 times already

to before they haul him away.

So what?

Pretty much.

You don't know, it could be an

after.

I don't think it's an after.

Yeah, Liam Nelson never dies.

Liam Nelson.

Liam Nelson.

Who the hell is Liam Nelson?

In another movie, I'm just.

Liam Neeson.

Yeah, that.

Guy.

Yeah.

Liam Neeson.

He's not in the movie.

I'm just saying in his movies he

never dies.

Oh yeah, that's gonna be the

same thing.

Either does Thor.

Thor doesn't die in all those

movies he makes for Netflix 4

The guy who plays oh in.

Extractor or.

Something.

Yeah.

Extractor.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, it's a dental movie.

What's it called?

Chris Nelson.

Extract Chris Nelson Chris

Nelson, Liam Liam.

Liam Hemsworthy or whatever it's

called Liam Hemsworthy.

That's the brother.

I think that's his.

Brother Hemsworthy, not one's

worth, 1's worthy.

Isn't that that his left?

Emsworth.

Emsworth.

Chris Hemsworth.

We're not getting any names.

Right now fun of me.

AB Recoverable sloths have been

emancipated so.

Yeah, I was gonna, dude, there

was a little clip on that, but

it didn't.

It didn't.

It killed off after, so I didn't

say what.

Emancipated.

Also emancipated.

No, I didn't do all of it, so I

had to let it go.

Aw, it's too bad.

All right, Jimmy Kimmel's back

in the news.

What would you do if it happened

to you and I called?

You could, you could just leave.

I mean, I'd leave.

You don't have small kids.

Right.

No, but I would put my arm

around my wife who's probably

panicking at this point and

leave.

Or let her beat 7 or 8 of the

kids up for teacher ninja stuff.

She knows.

Just leave.

Would you?

If they're in your way, you

start running them over.

With the car.

Yeah.

Yeah, honking horn.

Push them out the way.

Sure.

I mean, that's legal.

You can do that.

Yeah, I mean.

I think if they're not even.

In the state of in the state of

Florida.

Like what are you doing as a

parent?

Like if I find out that my kid

went down there, I'm like what

the hell is wrong with you?

Right.

Yeah.

You give him the speech.

What are you doing?

I just saw you on TV.

Right.

You're going to go to jail.

Speech man, spank that kid.

Get in the car.

Get out of there.

So what do you do?

If it was my kid.

You abandoned No.

Yeah, he's not going down.

There, you're down there, you

abandoned your pregnant wife and

you get in the car and you

drive.

Off and your children?

No.

Daddy's going for the car.

And then it never comes back.

Yeah.

No, but I did like the part

where you guys say you can run

them over.

I mean, that's.

You can in Florida.

Super GTA ish.

Yep.

Super GTA.

Super GTA.

That's right.

You play GTA seven?

Yeah.

Oh, here we go.

No stars, baby, no.

Stars cops aren't looking for

me.

It's too.

Funny, OK, and and if it was

your kid?

He's getting spanked.

Spanky.

Spanky.

He's 18 years old.

You're spanking him.

Yeah.

Yeah, he might play back.

Yeah, OK.

Come on.

Do you think your kid at this

point wants to fight you?

Maybe.

There's it gets to that age.

Yeah.

Yeah, they blow up on you.

Do you think he'd take you?

No.

No, no, even the bad hips, the

bad knees, all the bad, bad,

bad.

He's not, no.

It's not happening, no.

Oh the wait, does he think he

can take him?

Or the kid could take Boo.

He's saying if he thinks my son

could take.

Him I think your kid could take.

Him.

Oh, I don't think he could take

him unless he's gotten a whole

lot bigger.

Yeah, I think you're right.

Interesting stuff, yeah.

Mine though, right?

Take me.

Did your kid ever want to fight

you?

Adrian's kid did.

Yeah, as the whole you're not my

dad thing.

Well, that happened twice.

Why does my mother keep texting?

So weird she doesn't know how to

text they're.

Probably voicemails.

He almost had to take me and

Connor both because when he

tried, Connor boat up behind me.

Really.

So there's nothing but your

boys?

Never.

No.

Oh, that's cool.

Yeah, you're a good dad.

OK, they.

Just figured they could take me

and there's no point to it.

Yeah, what are we doing?

We're going to kick his ass.

We're.

Going to kick the old man's ass.

Come on then, you just beat up

an old man.

OK, go ahead and move on.

Do you ever want to fight your

dad?

Oh yeah, I almost did.

Oh, Mikey's super aggressive.

You.

Well, I don't.

Even that's why I figured it,

but I figured it was an easy

yes.

I didn't think you'd ask that

question, to be honest.

Yeah.

Did Greg ever want to fight your

dad?

No, no.

No, Greg's a golden child.

Yeah.

Oh, Dad liked him better too.

It seemed like you and your dad

were closer than Greg and him.

I think my dad, I think my dad

liked me more as we got older.

But no, for me, Oh, there was, I

mean, yeah, there was a time.

There was a real time where it

almost happened.

I was like, I'm ready if you

are.

And he left as a mess.

He walked out of the house.

Yeah.

So.

Well, it's turned really sad.

He.

Probably would have kicked my

ass.

Yeah, he's a big dude.

Yeah.

But I was not very fast, but he

was big.

He was solid.

I was pretty big and angry.

You're much bigger now than you

were then. 18 I was pretty big

17.

Oh, I didn't know you then.

Yeah, I was pretty big.

It's pretty strong.

I was getting divorced, rather

for the second time.

Yeah, nice.

I liked the last comments that

we were talking about

millennials and you're like,

wow, 1984, That was my junior

year in high school.

Yeah, when I was a junior year

in high school, OK, I could have

been your dad.

You can still be my dad.

He's dead.

Oh.

Yeah.

And I am short of son so.

There you go.

Let's move on down 1.

All right, Jimmy Kimmel's back

in the news.

Did you guys hear anything about

this?

No, I.

Did.

You did, I thought you only get

you news from me.

Yeah, I saw it on social.

What?

Did Preston tell you about it?

Yeah, Preston told me about it.

First lady Melania Trump is not

happy about late night host

Jimmy Kimmel's recent joke about

her.

Look at Melania, so beautiful.

Missus Trump, you have the glow

like an expected widow.

But he made this comment two

days on tape before the

assassination attempt.

Kimmel quit during a sketch on

his show Jimmy Kimmel Live.

The segment was the comedian's

mock alternative speech to the

White House Correspondents

Dinner, which aired 2 days

before the real event at the

Trump's attended together after

gunfire, authorities subdued a

heavily armed man, Blahdy blahdy

blah.

But Trump and Melania are asking

the TV station to fire him

because of the comments.

Of course.

Seems a little extreme.

I mean, hindsight's 2020, but he

didn't know that was going to

happen.

Right.

Yeah.

How do you feel about it, Phil?

Do you think that?

Did the show come out before the

thing happened on TV?

Did it?

Did it come out before or after

the thing happened on TV?

Palmer It happened.

So it was prerecorded.

It was prerecorded.

They played it at the dinner.

They played Jimmy Kimmel's show

at the dinner.

Not the show, but at the

comment.

So the.

Comic came out.

The comic came out on TV after

the thing had happened.

Oh OK so it so it still

released?

Right.

Yeah, they should have.

They should have probably have

cut that part out or.

Edited it.

Yeah, Yeah.

OK.

That's a great.

That's a great point, Phil.

I honestly didn't think of it

like that.

Yeah, I guess I could.

Have well, I just thought of it,

of how we do things, I mean.

Right, realistically, yeah,

you're right.

I mean, we're, we're a we're a

fine-tuned machine over here,

right with with millions of

dollars behind us, like NBC or

whatever, whatever friggin right

network he's on.

Like, I don't have a problem

with Jimmy Kimmel making the

joke, right?

Because, look, it's comedy.

It's supposed to be funny.

Or at least he's trying to be

funny.

Now the people take it as funny.

Look, that's entirely up to the

person.

You could say, hey, that wasn't

funny.

That wasn't OK.

And then at that point, don't

watch Jimmy Kimmel, right?

Like, right.

OK.

Now from the from the producer

side or the executive side, this

happens and this is about to

air.

Hey, we got, you know, I'm

running the cutting room floor

and I'm saying, hey, we got to,

we got to squash that.

Joke like, yeah, you think

somebody should have thought of

that?

Yeah, the timing is off now.

It's completely inappropriate.

We got to let.

Bad taste, we shouldn't do it.

Right.

You know, now this thing has

happened, We got to let it go.

We got to, we got to, we got to

trim that off.

So I wouldn't, I wouldn't for

optics purposes.

I think that's why Trump does

all that whatever.

But I think realistically, from

a business standpoint, if I run

that company, I look at who's

supposed to make that call.

And because they didn't, that

guy's got to go, that guy's got

to go.

That makes.

More sense.

You're no longer protecting the

best interest of this

organization by letting

something like that happen,

right?

And it maybe you're jaded as a,

as from a political standpoint,

whatever.

And you, you know, you're like,

I'm going to let this RIP when

you shouldn't have because it's

not funny.

No.

Well, I'm sure after it happened

because of everything going on

with the assassination, nobody

even thought that that you know

that that was still there.

I would even remembered that he

made an off color comment yeah

that's associated right till it

aired and like oh shit I forgot

he.

Said, well, that's a lame ass

excuse.

Yeah, like you got to be on the

ball, right?

Like this is not, you know, this

is your national television.

Man, I mean, Jimmy Kimmel always

says something about Trump

anyway, so you would think like

the editors would go, hey, the

assassination you just have.

Maybe we should watch the the

episode before we release it

just in case there's any

sensitive.

Stuff, you know, but that's

that's a good point too.

There's something to be said

about constantly doing something

and then developing A tolerance

for it.

That's actually unacceptable,

right?

Because if you constantly berate

a person and you're grooming

your crowd to be used to it, now

you have the attention of

everybody and now they're like,

hey, this is not OK, you know?

So like, I don't know, I don't

watch a lot of late night shows.

I think what's the other guy?

I.

Don't like his personally.

Jimmy Kimmel, like Fallon, will

cut some Trump jokes.

I like Fallon Joe.

Better Fallon cuts Trump jokes,

but he doesn't do it every

single goddamn episode.

You know what?

I mean, yeah, yeah, he doesn't

kill.

It like and and he'll also he'll

he'll also put punch jokes to

the other side.

You know where you know that

Kimmel just outright does not

like Trump.

Yeah, and it's no longer funny

anymore, at least in my opinion.

Right.

Yeah, I don't think it's.

I'm sure that there is there are

people that love to watch it

just to hear about it.

I'm sure that there are Trump

people that love to watch it

just to get upset about it.

Like, I don't have the time and

energy for either one of those

things, to be honest.

And like, the fact of the matter

is like, it's too, it becomes

too much.

It becomes too much.

I mean, we even talk about

stuff, but we have conversations

on the show that if we become

redundant about something and we

bring it up and we're like

hazing Phil about one thing in

particular and we do it two or

three times consecutively, we're

like.

Every day.

We're like, OK, we need, we need

to walk this back a little bit.

This has become too much, right?

So like.

This mask.

So it's kind of twofold, right?

One is don't.

Don't make it your whole thing

because it becomes too much.

Sure.

And and for two, that editor

should have did a better.

Job Well, there's got to be a

series of people that heard

that.

I mean, there's got to be a

director, a producer.

I mean, there's tons of people.

Somebody could have spoke up and

went, hey, that one thing, maybe

we should cut that out.

Clip that out right.

This just happened.

Clip that out right.

That's like saying, you know,

Oh, well, what if a plane runs

into the World Trade Center and

then, you know.

Right then a plane runs in.

911's like, oh, you know, you at

least got to wait a decade or

two before you start cutting

right 911 jokes again, you know?

Maybe this is the same guy.

What?

Maybe it's the same editor?

The same editor, yeah.

Oh, that guy didn't do there

wasn't that didn't.

Happen that was a fictitious

event I'm.

Sorry, I thought you were saying

that was a real thing.

Don't do drugs man.

Wow, keep your kids in school.

So yeah, this is what we're

talking about, the hazing stuff.

Yeah, no, this is not exactly

what we're talking about, the

hazing stuff.

I feel like it is.

You'll be OK.

You'll be OK, Phil, get back.

Get back in your shelter.

You'll be fine.

Wow, single person shelter.

All right, let's move on.

Just enough food for me for 30

years.

OK, Taylor Swift has been

granted A trademark for her

voice and her face.

This is some AI shit.

What's going?

On right, it's going up against

AI, so she's got it until she

dies and then 70 years after

that.

Wow.

So AI cannot copy her face or

her voice.

This is so the creepos can't

copy her face.

Or the voice.

I mean, it's a thing against AI

until the laws get into the

place where they don't have to

do this, OK.

So what determines the image

looking like looking exactly

like Taylor Swift?

I don't if it's like a any other

trademark 20%.

Right, so so.

Change the nose.

Right, so I could say to AII

need someone to look similar to

Taylor Swift.

Well, that's what I have to do

when I do images.

I have to do I need a Trump look

alike, right?

And then maybe as far as I'm

concerned is Trump.

I mean it.

Looks just like him it.

Looks just like him as far as I

know.

I need the voice to sound

similar to right right Taylor

Swift.

I guess she's just trying to do

the best she can.

I mean, what else you going to

do?

Just give in.

No, I mean like this.

Her face and her voice is worth

a lot of money.

I'm not upset about it.

I think that this is

interesting.

It's interesting to see where

this goes.

Now other, you would think.

Now other celebrities and

singers will start to do it

right.

Guys, it's probably just like

the Disney thing.

Remember when Disney did this

whole like trademark or ban

against using characters or

whatever?

Or they bought some company that

was going to AI their characters

and then then they decided just

to shut down the company.

They're like, well, this is a

terrible idea.

Yeah, 'cause it started being

creepy stuff.

Like a billion dollars later,

like, oh, never mind they.

Bought it just to close it.

Right to write it down.

Let's smash this technology

right now for Ariel's doing

something to the crab, right?

Right, that's what I'm saying.

Like poor Taylor, that's

probably what she's thinking.

She's like, you know what?

There's some creepos out there.

Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be

doing something with the some

weird guy, Yeah.

I think that we're witnessing

the end of social media.

That's what we're witnessing.

Nah.

Well, I I do know Facebook.

From what I understand, I went

to this networking event for

weddings and they said a lot of

people aren't using Facebook

anymore, they're moving to

Instagram.

Yeah, Facebook is your old man

platforms, you know, you know,

right?

It's your older people.

So eventually that will just

probably you know.

Migrate to something else.

Well, everything turns into

something.

I mean, we don't have Myspace

anymore.

Well, the generations turn on to

something else.

Right.

Yeah, they'll find something

else, like.

Tik Tokers have a specific age

demograph other than you and

you.

Right.

Like watching?

It's like watching TV.

Yeah, I forgot.

I forgot.

Probably you had TikTok.

I have to send you Tik.

Toks no don't send me tik toks.

Snapchat was a big one for for

younger kids.

Right.

Yeah, I can't watch your snap.

Let me have you snappy.

What's your snappy?

What's your snappy?

I can't get them to Snapchat.

I can either, you know it's

funny too.

Like that shit drives me nuts

too when like.

I'll use some of the filters

sometimes, but that's all.

Easier, yeah, but we're like,

you're hanging out with somebody

that's younger and like, you're

like, what the hell are you

doing?

You're taking a picture every 10

seconds.

I got to send snappies.

Yeah, like, OK, let's pump the

brakes on that for a second.

Like nobody cares.

Oh, they my fans, they care.

They all three of them.

I have more than three.

It's for my friends.

I've noticed Instagram is is

ramping up.

I'm getting more, more play on

Instagram than than before.

Really.

Yeah.

Well, they said at that

networking event, they said that

people are starting to use the

search engine on Instagram a lot

because it's an AI driven one to

puzzle it.

What does that mean?

I don't know like anything that

they want to search like good

food in my area and they they

search it on Instagram because

you can go to the pages of the

restaurants and most companies

have a page of Instagram, but

it's because it's through AII

guess it centers it to whatever

you search or.

Oh, that's interesting, Meta.

I mean, Facebook is Instagram

so.

Yeah, they're both owned by the

same company.

Well that was my argument when

they were asking questions like,

isn't Facebook the same thing as

Instagram?

It's two.

It's two different platforms.

Facebook's becoming a lot more

ad driven, is it?

It seems, yeah.

There's a lot of ads on

Instagram too though.

Yeah, but they're pretty

pictures.

It doesn't seem as bad.

I don't have to watch a video

about Cheerios.

Because they're more tasteful,

they're.

Better done, better done.

It's a nice picture and some

music.

Not somebody, not the honeycomb

bee or whatever it is.

Well, I don't think I have any

honeycomb bees on my.

Well, you will now 'cause you

just mentioned it.

Congratulations.

Honey Nut Cheerio.

Honey Nut Cheerio.

The bees live their life right

honey nut, and die.

And then TikTok, I mean if you

watch one video, next thing you

know, 75 videos with the same

song, just different people.

Yeah.

Oh, he liked that song Prayer

the show more.

Bring him some more.

Bring him more photos.

Nothing says better than a jet

bug getaway or whatever it was.

Oh, he really?

Likes that he watched it twice.

No, I we got to go to the

bathroom with my phone running.

Please stop Joey, nothing is

better as well.

All right, Mike, you got a

video?

I don't have a video today.

Womp womp.

I failed you.

Good, I don't have to cut 1.

In it was just a matter of time.

I don't have to cut it in.

It's fine.

All right.

Cigar News.

Should act like you have a video

then pull one up.

Oh, but Speaking of which one he

does videos don't do the three

shot.

It's very hard to put the video

in and hard for him to edit.

I've tried explaining that to

you multiple times.

I'm sorry I did a three shot

when we're all watching the

video.

Yeah, but don't do that.

Yeah, don't do that.

It's hard to put the video in

and it's hard for him to cut it

out, Yeah.

OK.

God damn it, how many times I

gotta tell you?

You can cut between the three of

us.

Please don't beat me.

The problem is, the problem is

Phil.

Phil always wants to be on on

the.

Screen he wants to be on the.

Screen.

So now that he has this option

of like, all right, well I'm not

saying anything but I I want to

be on the screen anyways so he

hits this button.

I'm just, I'm just waiting for

the time when Palmer's like,

yeah, I'm not really watching

the videos and edit them

anymore.

I was gonna leave the camera on

me the whole time.

I don't watch the show.

I don't watch the entire show.

Please.

I don't have that kind of time.

All right, so I just do it in

the middle.

All right, two new Davidoff

Winston Churchill's heading to

travel retail.

Davidoff has announced that it

will add new 5 1/2 by 55 Gran

Robusto vitola to the 2 Winston

Churchill lines.

The upcoming Davidoff Voyagers

selection.

Anything you can charge you can

get in trouble for going on

Voyagers.

He doesn't have trademarks, I'm

sure.

That's probably right.

Winston Churchill is an 8

counting box that contains 4 of

each of the Davidoff Winston

Churchill's and the Davidoff

Winston Churchill the Late Hour.

Each cigar has an MSRP of how

much are these little babies?

$17.00.

Dab dab it off.

Dab it off, fat Churchill. 19.

35 I want to I want to be

offered to global travel retail

accounts.

What does that mean I.

Have no idea.

Duty free shops.

Maybe.

Not.

Not this place, probably.

Worldwide.

Expected to arrive on May 14th.

Oh, your voice worked well with

that, Yeah.

It was worldwide.

You could do like the movie

trailers.

Oh yeah, we got to start doing

some drops real quick.

Right before his voice gets

better, right?

The white banded Winston

Churchill, which Davidoff is

referring to as the original

series, uses an Ecuadorian Roja

ROJIZA.

ROJIZA.

Yeah, Rojiza.

Rohiza rapper.

You got to roll that.

R Roll the R Rohiza, We'll just

go to the Mexican San Andreas

Negro binder and five filler

leaves.

Dominican piloto, megiordo seco,

peloto seco and hybrid orlo

peloto seco and seco from both

Condega and Estele.

Nicaragua Cigar features a

secondary band that reads the

original series.

A small package update for the

line.

The Late Hour uses an Ecuador

and Habano maroon Escuro wrapper

over a Mexican San Andreas Negro

Bonder and Dominican tobaccos or

Loviso pilotos, Echo and San

Vincent Majordo viso and a viso

from SLA.

Wanted tobacco in these things.

Very specific.

Stuffed.

Very specific about what's in

these and guys, sorry my cough

comes when I talk.

It's nice as a good change

though because most people go

I'm disclosed or Nicaraguan.

I need somewhere between.

Jesus.

When you get down.

Sip of water or what?

No, I have a drink.

I need somewhere between beyond

Undisclosed but be behind what

we just got right.

Oddly specific.

I need mid level.

Undisclosed.

Yeah, give me mid level, you

know.

Oh, Speaking of mid level Drew

Estate's opening farmers factory

in Dominican Republic.

Wow.

While it's beginning was in New

York, Drew Estate has long been

associated with Nicaragua as to

where the company's factory is,

and the local culture has been

reflected in the company's

artwork and occasionally it's

cigars.

Now Drew Estate.

Is it called Sans Estate now?

Nope.

Is expanding its footprint as

the company has announced that

it has its own farm and building

its own 73,000 square foot

factory in the Dominican

Republic, both under the banner

of Drew Dominicana.

Everything change.

Oh sorry, everything changes

today to Jonathan Drew Stance,

Co founder and President of

Druid State.

Oh, that's not it.

That was like a merge between

Tube and Drew.

Yeah.

It was weird, yeah, with the

strip.

Can't get it with the voice.

Sorry.

Forever be our home base.

But today with the planting our

official flag in the Dominican

Republic, we run to something

very big, very purposeful and

powerful.

We're meeting a moment of

evolution head on with the open

arms as we embrace a new season

of learning and organize growth.

Everybody put the open arms up.

Open arms fell Open arms fell,

fell open arms.

There you go, the Drew State

culture, what are proudly call

our subculture.

We now include a vibrant

edition, layers of Dominican

influence that will shine as

bright as the sun itself.

So why are they going to make it

in public?

I get to ask the questions.

I asked you.

Viva will ask the questions.

Viva will ask the questions.

Phil, why do?

You think they're going to the

Dominican Republic?

Less tariffs.

Less tariffs.

Exact same tariff from both

countries at the moment.

Currently, the tariffs are the

same.

It is simply magical according

to this.

OK.

Why do you think they're going?

I don't know.

That's why I asked you.

I want.

To hear your point of view.

Imagine his bets.

Imagine his bets.

Expanding, making it bigger, I

don't know.

Didn't didn't Fuente go to

Nicaragua from Dominican

Republic?

Yeah, but I mean, you would

argue the other way.

You'd argue the fact that

Nicaragua has better tobacco

better, you know, better ability

to make better cigars.

Well, they've come out with two

cigars that are Dominican now,

correct?

The Dominicana Dominican, Yeah,

and the League of Bravada

Dominican.

Oh, they came out of the League

of Bravada Dominican, Yeah.

OK.

They announced it at the PCA

trade show.

I'm surprised you were there.

I thought you would.

Have I was busy?

I was busy too, it was still in

it.

I guess you're not that busy.

I think that it's.

I think that they're called.

The underground, El Tigre

Dominicano, we have it upstairs.

I think that they're hedging

their bets.

That's what I said.

You said I was wrong.

I didn't say you're wrong.

I think that realistically, like

there's a lot of turmoil off and

on in politically from from

Nicaragua and the United States.

And if that goes sideways and

you no longer have the ability

to sell cigars into the US, then

you're done, right?

So if you if you build a

different factory in a different

country, at least you have the

option to to continue to

produce.

You might be able to facilitate

getting tobacco over there so

you can still make similar

cigars, right And keep things

operational.

I don't understand the bad

relationship or whatever between

the US and Nicaragua.

Like what's the these guys

produce coffee and tobacco?

What's the deal?

It's a political thing.

See, there's politics involved,

not just what we get from them.

Yeah.

It's a question of, you know,

like from a disclaimer.

Nothing we say is true and or

factual.

We have no idea what we're

talking about.

Not.

Pay no attention to us.

Not a political or World

Economic person here, however.

A Polish guy from Miami.

I'm not even from Miami.

Don't give me that credit.

I believe that when you kind of

look at things, I'm sorry, when

you look at things from like a

world standpoint, specific

countries support specific

countries, right?

So like China, Venezuela,

Nicaragua, they're all

originally tied together

supporting each other.

Now we hit Venezuela.

Boom, right?

But I still believe that I could

be wrong, that Nicaragua has

close ties to and Russia as well

like those those guys are.

The bad guys.

I don't.

Are they mad?

I mean like.

We don't like them.

I don't know man.

I I can't look at media and

assume anything.

I always have questions.

Like Russia, North Korea, China.

Not Venezuela anymore.

We own that right, Nicaragua.

I mean, like, do any of them

really want to mess with us?

I think that's.

I think Russia and China.

I mean, Kim Jong Un called after

we got Maduro.

We cool, right?

Yeah.

We good right by.

The way I'm not at my house.

GI Joe, I'm not at my house.

I'm not going to any means no

meetings.

Cancel all meetings.

Yeah, not with the other 48 of

you, I'll tell you that much

right now.

Who is Glenn Wolfenstein?

I have no idea.

CEO of Drew State.

Why have we never seen this man?

I have no idea.

Pay no attention to the man

behind the curtain, Glenn.

Wolfensohn.

CEO of Drew State and press

release said every department of

Drew State has been working to

drive this project forward and

to them I am so thankful and

proud.

It sounds like this is the guy

that does the work.

I am Glenn Wolfensohn.

Where the other guy is going, it

turns some culture.

We are really cool.

What a weird voice.

The farm is located in Villa

Gonzalez, Dominican Republic and

we'll provide Drew Dominicana

with the ability to grow

proprietary tobaccos, special

tobaccos.

I mean, that's kind of

interesting because, you know,

like I remember back in the day,

Drew always said we buy, buy the

crop and we take care of these

farmers.

Are they still taking care of

those farmers?

I hope so.

Well, they bought the farm.

Sounds like they're expanding,

so do they need more tobacco?

I mean that would make sense,

but you would hope that they

would still back and support the

people who made got them to

where they are at.

Who is Manuel Perlata?

I don't know, but I bet she

knows Glenn.

He's known for decades working

with David House, Dominican

operation.

He's running the farm.

Got him.

All right, Glenn.

This project represents years of

work behind the scenes, says

Martin van der.

This is all no new name.

Who's Martin van der Linden?

He's friends with Wolfenstein.

He is head.

He is Drew State's head of

tobacco procurement.

Who are these new people?

Sounds like Russia's taking

over.

I think I met this guy.

First thing we find out is Drew

is not called Drew.

So many things.

So now all of a sudden there's

these 17 people with these long

names that are all these.

They're all German.

They're all German.

We, we have taken over Dominican

Republic.

We like the tobacco here.

The tobacco is very good.

Is the five year plan up?

Tobacco.

I'm waiting for a new name.

After every quote, there's a new

name.

Dominican tobacco has incredible

depth and character, but only

when you invest properly.

We are verging the best product

you can.

Only make truly great cigars.

With great tobacco.

Well, exact opening date has not

been announced yet.

The company is targeting early

2027.

So where did they make the 1st 2

Dominican cigars?

The factory's not running yet?

I don't know.

Dominican factory of some sort.

Interesting.

I mean, it's only they don't

know.

Everybody in the industry.

True, they could have it made.

Anywhere they want, right there

are sons of state.

Sons of State.

Real name's not Drew.

It's.

Very upsetting.

Maybe this middle name?

Sounds like it doesn't.

Matter.

I don't go.

By Michael.

Ray, you should.

No, I shouldn't.

Ray Estate.

Ray Estates, Constella Group and

Fox Knives announce tangles in a

new joint venture.

Oh boy.

Now he's making knives.

We got to be careful.

He's ran out of tobacco money.

Now he's going after his

utility.

Oh my God.

Allegedly he's.

Arming his people don't.

Die on us.

I think he's.

Poisoning me.

I think this is it.

This is it.

There's a new.

Name coming to the cigar.

Accessory space tagalism wow tag

T.

AG.

LIENZA, Lindza, Taglenza,

Taglenza, Taglenza.

Very good.

I thought Ricky was getting up

to look.

Oh, I got to bring my knife from

13.

Knives too.

What I got to plug that guy?

Oh yeah, my cutter.

It's a joint venture announced

by Luciano Morales, president of

Constello USA, and Gabriel

Frata, president of the Fox

Knives.

Wow, There's a lot of accolades

there.

Technical England's.

Will be both a brand and a

distributor for Fox Knives cigar

accessories in the Americas.

Outside of the Americas, those

products will continue to be

sold under the Fox Knives name

as part of the launch of

Taglins.

The products will now come with

a lifetime warranty.

Oh nice, and a three pack of

Marlon.

Wayne's cigars.

Fox Knives.

That's right.

He didn't.

That's why.

I mean, he cut something on that

table.

There you go.

Taglins, right?

Fox Knives is an.

Italian.

Knife company that has made a

variety of novel cutters,

perhaps most notable the 749

seven. 49.

Next year, the company will

celebrate its 50th anniversary

and make a 750 and a press.

Release the pair.

Said that there is a simple oh,

the pair.

Now they're talking as a group.

There's a simple conviction at

the center of Taglenza that the

accessory is not secondary to

the ritual.

It is part of the ritual has to

cut is the first decision at

open six parent and reveals the

product shaping the encounter.

That's this is complete Luciano

bullshit stuff.

Whoa, he owns it alleges.

No, he likes the very flowery.

In the thing, the knife.

The knife is part of the process

and it cuts up in the thing.

Oh my God, I meant go.

On how much?

Money How much money the.

Company is focusing on cigar

cutters.

And related instruments design

for cigar and through use to

value craftsmanship,

functionality and enduring

design.

The cigar is never only a

product, it is an encounter

between time and tension and

human hands, said Mary Alice in

a press release.

The same can be said of a well

made cutting instrument.

With Taglenza we are now simply

entering accessories.

We are extending the velocity.

Wait, wasn't he making

accessories with that leather

guy?

I don't know.

Yeah, he he was making a cigar.

For the guy that made the

leather cigar purses and stuff

and that didn't work out, he's

no longer associated.

We wanted a partnership we are

creating.

Objects that serve with.

Ritual and intelligence,

elegance and performance.

But something is made with it.

This is very long, all right, so

skip it.

I am.

As for the name the company.

Says it evokes essence Del.

Taglio.

The essence of the cut All

right, now it's time for the

industry's favorite game.

What's the?

Score.

Sorry, he's still droning on.

Oh my Lord.

He's still going.

On here we go.

All right, First cigar, June

22nd, 2016.

Brooks Whittington Cigars,

Dominican Republic.

It's a Gurkha cigar.

The Gurkha.

Sniper.

It comes in this.

Really cool leather.

Or plastic box OK, like a gun.

Case Sniper.

Sniper.

OK, somebody give me a number.

Now remember, this is not your

personal opinion.

It is Brooke Whittington's

opinion.

Oh, OK, 65. 8484.

Cigar is the Gurkha sniper is

from the Dominican Republic

factory and we know say rapper

Dominican Republic binder

Indonesian filler Dominican

Republic in Nicaragua linked 7

1/2 by 52 is a Toro extra.

It's $12.00 case of 20 that it

comes in a case 240 dollars came

out in 2016.

They smoked three of these

puppies. 65. 84.

Clue #1.

Rich, evolving flavor profile

with earthy oak at the core,

layered by dark chocolate,

espresso, licorice, cinnamon and

flashes of Raisin sweetness that

kept the profile interesting. 66

85 clue #2.

Excellent.

Draw on solid overall.

Construction with strong smoke

output and strength built up

that added body the cigar as the

cigar progressed. 66, 87.

Burn consistency.

And cigar softness.

Were concerns the overall spongy

samples and multiple touch UPS

point to construction issues,

while the sweetness never fully

developed into the standout note

it hinted at early.

Somebody didn't change the bands

70, 81.

Final thought.

This is the final thought, Phil

OK reading the review.

Above you might notice.

The liberal use of the

adjectives such as slight, mild

and light used repeatedly

throughout.

The reason for this is simple.

While the flavours of the Gurkha

Sniper were enjoyable, they were

also extremely light, leading to

a profile that just not distinct

enough to really make much more

than a general positive

impression.

Having said that, other than

the.

Somewhat fragile wrapper.

The construction was quite nice

for all three samples, and there

was plenty of smoke production

throughout.

Excuse me?

In the end, the Sniper is a

decent enough cigar that really

could use a more distinct

project to put it in a major

contention with other cigars in

the same price range.

Sniper.

Sniper.

By Gurkha. 7870. 9.

You went the right way. 84 Oh, I

had it right.

Oh. 80.

Four, it worked.

Only one of them worked.

Ouch.

Now turn it off.

Turn.

It off.

We're on fire.

I was.

That was the first number I

pulled.

Yeah, 80 that's why.

I say I should just stick with

my.

Number, yeah, but he's he's like

it's super light.

Doesn't There's no real taste?

How'd it give 84?

I kicked your wrist.

Not only did I win, but I had it

right off the jump and then I

just did conservative to take

the dub.

Yeah, you went way too low.

Brooks doesn't normally.

Go that low 84, I guess we're

going to.

Have to smoke this night huh

sniper?

It's from 20/16/20. 16 You can't

get these. 10 years ago.

They find cigars.

And give them names you.

Know you can't find us anymore.

Yeah, it's 10 years ago.

Go smoke the ghost.

All right?

Come back.

Tomorrow where we talk.

About Mikey Beat Up Coupe on the

show, we review the developing

palates.

See if there's a fight.

That's it.

Anything else?

What are the odds?

If he gets mad and then leaves.

And he leaves, leaves.

Leaves the show.

I don't think he.

Leaves turns it off I think.

If he did anything, he'd

probably.

Like not talk.

Let's take a bet on this.

You think it would just not

talk?

I think it would leave.

Why not talk?

That just looks worse.

Do you think there is any?

Comments made of anything of the

podcast of our podcast and or

post Anya by Coupe.

No, no, that's not how he does

things.

No wait, it's APCA review show.

Are you going to bring anything

up about him unsubscribing?

You going to ask him?

Maybe we'll see how it goes, I

don't know.

You don't have a plan, no.

So what if he's nice?

You're nice, yeah.

That's not fun for us.

I'm going to are all the fans.

We want to see a.

Scuffle.

Fight, fight, fight, fight,

fight.

I don't.

Want to fight?

We're going to start typing

fight.

Argue, argue.

Argue.

Argue.

Argue.

I don't want to fight.

This is your one.

Chance to confront.

Him I don't want to fight.

I don't want to.

You do.

You want to fight, I don't.

Want to fight?

You like to fight.

I'm not afraid of it.

You're an angry.

I'm comfortable with it.

You're an.

Angry.

You're a very angry.

Man, I'm not angry.

This is your chance.

To unleash, I don't need.

To fight, he's not a bad guy

like.

The coward of the county you

shut.

And lock the door.

This is, this is it.

This is where you fight the the

bad guy.

He's not going to do it.

I know he's not.

That's why you have to.

You have to start.

Something I had to provoke him

cook dirt in.

His out kick dirt.

In his face.

I'm not.

I'm not doing that.

Go over.

Weasel.

I'm not.

I'm not that guy.

You can be call them.

A weasel, no.

Power is ridiculous, I.

Disagree with that?

Say something like.

You know what gets me?

When media people unsubscribe

from media sources so they can't

get any more media.

But they claim to be unbiased.

Yeah, and when they wear wrong

pants.

Yeah, throw the.

Pants in just for the hell of

it, yeah.

They really know who it is.

They really know.

Who you're talking about that?

I'm not.

Indirect.

I'm direct, right?

Socka Socka.

What would you do if a?

Media Source Unsubscribe from

your press releases.

Oh, that's perfect.

Soccer, we go I.

Don't fucking care.

Yeah.

He's a whatever, screw him.

I don't, you know, you can see

that.

I don't know how you track.

That or make it really awkward

and ask Lafferty.

See if anybody unsubscribed.

All right.

I don't care or fish stick.

You can.

Ask fish Stick No.

Fish stick Fish stick's very.

Unconfrontational.

So it was a Canadian, by the

way.

I don't like that he jumped

forward.

He's got to go back and listen

to all the episodes.

Hey fish thing if you were at

the PCA.

Would you visit every cigar

company and interview them or

would you just pick?

They don't.

They don't do interviews of the

show.

They just.

Walk around, say hi.

Yeah.

They just log.

Stuff in their head, it's not

good for him.

Which is smart.

It's very tiresome.

To go around and do all that.

Stuff.

I don't know how those shows do

it.

Then you have to go back and

edit everything.

Yeah, I mean, I still.

Haven't done the little Little

Debbie's exposed one, right?

And I got to get on that.

You got to get on that.

It's tough, right?

So.

After you beat up Coop, you'll

be all wound up.

I'm not beating up Coop.

Come on, man.

No, you got to get James and

simply still.

He's beat up Coop.

No, that's not fun.

You know what, Palmer?

Invite him into the.

Comments tonight invite James.

Yeah.

He'll be there.

You think so?

I don't think he's there.

Why not?

Why would he be there?

See.

You beat up coop?

I'm not going to beat up coop.

Don't.

Disappoint me, Mike.

OK, I.

Asked for so very little.

Yeah, you asked for a lot.

No, I don't.

You're very demanding.

No, I'm not.

Yes, you are.

So.

We'll be talking about.

Mike beating up Coop tomorrow?

Yes, I'm not beating up Coop.

I'm going to stay up and.

Watch this SO.

I would like to see something OK

and your maintainment.

And goodbye like.

And subscribe.

Like, like and subscribe

wherever you're viewing or or

listening to the show.

I apologize for my senile Co

host.

Not senile.

Goodbye.

Very angry.

Goodbye.

Show Notes

On todays show

Asian Jumping Worms are here, Icon Park has been taken over, Jimmy Kimmel is back in Tourble and Taylor Swift has been granted a trademark on her face and voice.  Then in Cigars