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ACHP Episode 528 There Is No Privacy

ACHP Episode 528 There Is No Privacy

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All right, 321-GO.

What color is it?

Red or green?

It's red.

I feel that's not recording, No,

no.

No, it's on the screen now.

All right, I see it red.

We had a little technical

problem, so we're starting the

show over.

All right.

Welcome to a Cigar House for

podcast episode 528.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host and

over to Engineering, back from

his new IT loses some oomph when

you gotta read it.

This it does it's.

Just read my intro.

Back from his new movie Dead

Inside Me, we have Phil Mcguffey

back with us today.

Hello peoples.

And then Mikey was busy doing

something.

We don't really care but back to

my popular demand and mostly

cause his mom yelled at me to

have a mom more often.

Triple G is with us again today.

Phil is just over there, not

pushing buttons like I do.

I'd like to confirm that we're

definitely recording at this

point.

No, we're, we're recording.

Whether we are?

Or not.

Yeah, no, your mom told me to

send the recorder after I'm done

to.

Mom, I don't understand.

I don't know.

'Cause you said she was still

here.

Is she still here?

Is she still here?

Is she here tomorrow?

We drive Mama.

We drive Mama to the train

tomorrow.

We.

Drive Mama to the train.

Like, that's not like the

Yellowstone, the Yellowstone

train, is it?

Oh, it's a train station.

Oh, she's over driving.

Yeah, she's going to go up on a

train.

Yeah, yeah.

On today's show, come on in,

Ricky, it's fine.

On today's show, Nike's going to

pay big.

Eggs are good for your mind in

Winter Park, FL at a local

coffee shop.

You may be on Candid Camera and

then in Florida.

Anybody want to do a super Gator

hunt?

We have details on how to get

that.

Greg would like that.

You would like that because

you're very outdoorsy.

I like to kill shit.

And he's outdoorsy.

And in cigars, California just

got cheaper.

Oscar Valadares is saying, oh,

la, la, all to this is back in

the Dominican and Honduran cigar

business.

And then we have a double.

What's the score?

Double.

What's the score?

Double.

I was seeing if that noise went

off again.

Finish it.

But first, who wants to tell us

about how to get some chapter

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So what you got to do is you got

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You buy one shirt, you get the

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And this week only, there's no

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No, no free.

You only get a discount only.

Get discounted.

As Palmer would not like to give

out Palmer.

Shipping week here.

Ch Bud Swag.

Gotta make money somehow.

Yeah, so go on there.

Buy a shirt, buy a hat, don't

buy a a beanie because we don't

have those.

Beanies is ever taken.

Though can't get a knife because

can't get those either.

Whatever you like.

King has his.

Oh, I think they're supposed to

send me one.

Well, mine came from 14 knives.

Oh nice. 1.

Better one Better than the 13

guys.

Apparently that's their slogan.

1 better than 13.

I have to message those guys.

Maybe you could try for 12

knives and maybe that's a little

less expensive for you.

Oh.

OK, I'll try it out.

I'll get the link from you.

OK, well the link is what was

for 14.

Yeah, just substitute the 442.

Oh, OK.

Yeah, OK, Palmer, you're up.

Oh, sorry.

Comments I was listed to a thing

you.

Oh, comments again?

Complete shit show.

It always is I.

Gotta get my glasses, the print

is so small and I set them in

the ashes over here.

At least the nice thing is we're

not getting yelled at right now.

Yeah, that's nice.

Huh.

Oh yeah, he has.

He has to do a lot of editing

when he has to cut all that out.

All right, from Epicurean smokes

on yesterday's Today's.

I'm not sure, but the previous

show's episode pretty quick in

the draw with Denise Richards

there.

Mr. Palmer.

Well, my wife watches that show

on TV.

Denise Richards.

All right, CW6383, the fact that

they made three diet anything

cigars is beyond unfathomable.

Nice.

Dada catch 2004.

I love it when Triple G is on

the show.

Very popular.

Ruckus Unchained.

We need more Triple G 02.

Is that the mom handle?

Yeah, that's his mom.

Those are both his.

Mother.

'S mother, let's see and then

from Ben Rowland on two shows

back, we're just going to glaze

over the fact Phil's no docking

comment at 939.

There was another time thing for

Phil, but I think we already you

mentioned that one.

Yep, that's it, I guess.

All right, if you like your

comment right on the air comment

on one of the shows.

We don't do the comments on the

shorts, just the main shows.

But thank you for coming in on

notes too.

Yes, more fill comments.

Usually the ones on the shorts

are not nice.

Little more insulting about us

being idiots and stuff.

Well, we already know that we're

idiots, but.

Hey, just keep listening.

We don't care what you call us.

All right, moving on.

We're still recording perfect.

Now we're still recording.

We made it past the point of no

return now, all right?

Nike was hit with a proposed

class action lawsuit in federal

court in Portland, OR.

Mr. Knight.

Are those Nike boots?

No, I don't wear Nike boots.

The claim is that Nike raised

prices to cover tariff cost,

then may also receive tariff

refunds from the government

after Supreme Court ruling

created a double recovery.

Reuters says Nike allegedly paid

out 1 billion in tariffs and

raised some shoe prices 5 to $10

in apparel 2 to $10 to cover the

tariffs.

Yeah, but I mean, So what?

How can you force them to give

that back?

I don't understand.

Well, Mike is not committed to

refunding consumers.

And it declined comment to Fox

Business.

Similar lawsuits have also been

filed against companies like

Costco and FedEx.

I don't know.

It's big class action suit.

There obviously is no winner yet

because they're still doing it.

But yeah, they raised the prices

and then got all the money back

and then didn't lower the price.

Yeah, but they have the right to

determine whatever their prices.

Are you would think they can

make the price?

Whatever.

Yeah, I don't know if this goes

anywhere.

Apparently Costco and FedEx are

being sued too, so it's not like

it's the only one and it's class

action.

So I guess you would just have

to have a receipt that you

bought something between a

certain time.

Is it like the phone thing that

we discussed last time?

Everybody's going to get a check

for 25 bucks.

That's the way it'll work out,

right?

Not maybe 25, could be less.

Or Costco Costco's on the down.

South did I was supposed to ask

you if we paid the current

tariffs on our next order?

So we will be paying the current

tariffs on the next order,

absolutely, apparently.

How much tariff?

From Nicaragua, it's 10% right

now.

There are only three or four, I

can't recall the exact number of

pending lawsuit that was found

that they could uphold the fact

that the the percentage was not

legal.

But there's going to be an

opportunity for it to be

appealed and it's still going to

go back and forth.

Nothing is set in stone yet.

So we still pay.

So 10's what it's at.

This isn't the additional 10 he

was talking about.

Oh no, he said.

If they take the 10 away, he's

going to do a secret nobody

knows law and add 10 more or add

the 10 back.

Right, but that.

But that's not the current

state.

No, currently it's the 10 is

there, Yeah.

So are we raising prices 10%?

We haven't raised prices.

That's right, We're not raising

prices.

That that way if if we ever do

get a check back we just keep

it.

We split it three ways.

I don't.

That's not how it's gonna work.

Palmer, have you not learned in

how many years we've been here?

There's no money to us.

We get no money.

Well, that's technically not

part of the show though.

Oh well, yeah, maybe you're

right.

I don't know how the other side

works.

But still, it's not very

different.

Trust me, it's not not really

different, just slightly, a

little different.

Slightly more work.

Yeah, yeah, More work.

It's just, I don't know, this

thing went to five days a week.

I.

Couldn't give you more.

If you count the editing I have

to do on the weekends.

Yeah, thank God we're not doing

it on Sundays, huh?

Right.

Don't say that out loud.

Well, that's usually when I edit

the Friday shows on Sunday

because Saturday.

Now I set up the Saturday show,

which was my own fault, but

still.

Yeah, you did request that one.

That one doesn't take long to

do, and that one's kind of fun.

Yeah.

All right.

Next story.

Eggs.

A new study has revealed the

linked.

See, I meant to buy eggs.

I was going to eat hard boiled

eggs as I started reading this.

Story.

Oh, that would have been nice,

just shoveling.

Just shoveling them in and then

when they cut to you, you're

shoveling eggs and then they cut

to him.

He's got egg all over his face.

Would have been so creative it.

Would have been funny but now I

forgot to get the eggs so

apparently I need to eat the

eggs and then redo the story

about the eggs.

No, but just start over again.

I'll go to Publix.

Let's just catch up.

What?

Came first the story or the

eggs, right?

New studies reveal the link

between egg consumption and

reduced risk of Alzheimer's

disease.

Oh.

So now you get what the joke

would have.

Been it would have been great

for you, Palmer.

Shoveling egg, right?

Exactly the research from

California Loma Linda

University.

Anybody ever heard of Loma

Linda?

University never heard.

Of it, I'm sure it's like one of

those auto loan places.

Are there teams any good that

play basketball or football or

something doesn't?

Sound like it?

But you probably bet on them.

Probably not.

Publisher the Journal of

Nutrition aimed to analyze the

relationship between the

neurological condition and

dietary habits of people that

eat eggs.

Do you eat a lot of eggs, Greg?

Well, it's.

Just like having your brother

on.

I'm doing the show, you're over

there texting away.

I.

Eat eggs.

I don't eat a lot of eggs.

Is that your wife?

It is my wife.

Do you eat 1 egg a day?

No, I don't eat 1 egg a day.

I probably eat like 3 or 4 eggs

total for the week.

And you have chickens?

Yeah.

The great thing about chickens

is they they make eggs you make.

You have free eggs?

Well.

Yeah, not, not free egg, no.

Not exactly it's.

Not even close to free.

Yeah, I used to have to.

Yeah, the the calculated cost

per egg is about three to four

times the actual cost of buying

them in Publix.

Is it really?

Well, yeah, it's not cheap.

You got the big fucking cage.

And yeah.

OK.

The the cage GRI on the cage is

probably already run through.

OK.

And then that cage breaks.

It's time for a new cage.

What did you break?

Did you not build it correctly?

No the.

Elements could destroy it.

You have to what?

Happens at your house.

For God's, there's a lot of

violence.

A lot of storms a.

Lot of violence at the house,

yeah.

Are there animals that try to

get into each SO?

We've lost like maybe 4 or 5

chickens over the years that

have been killed by raccoons.

Mostly raccoons.

Are terrible.

They're so then.

You got to buy more chickens.

Right, and the few that are left

are PTSD from seeing their

friends killed by the raccoons.

Yeah, did.

I ever tell you about the

original chicken math?

The original chicken math was I

approved 2 chickens for the wife

to buy.

She ordered 3 and she showed up

with four.

So that's chicken math.

Chicken Math.

Did the did the raccoons get

into the coop or did they kill

the chickens through the coop?

They.

Pull the chicken piece by piece

out the cage.

Oh.

So that's what happened to

Mark's mark.

What's his mark?

Gordon yes, thank.

You mark Gordon's house?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Except he raised his chicken

coop up, thinking he could keep

it away from the raccoons.

They went underneath and started

with the feet and Oh yeah,

they're.

Vicious little animals.

Oh, he showed.

Me a video, it's terrible.

It's very.

Bad.

It's terrible.

Raccoons are terrible.

He's being.

Ripped apart by a yeah raccoon

for no.

Reason another than we're just

going to kill it.

We're just going to kill it.

That's.

Fine.

Well, and then they eat it, no?

Sometimes they do, sometimes

they don't.

Sometimes.

They just kill it and leave it.

Yeah.

Well, it should have been saying

shit the other day then, you

know.

What did he say?

Was that English?

I don't.

Know what he said?

Should've been saying shit the

other day I'm.

Not sure whatever.

Did you just have a stroke over

there at Princess?

Shouldn't.

Have been saying shit the other

day in Shanghai, you know what I

mean?

Wow, what I.

I'm not sure what that means

either.

He's literally had a stroke

while on the show.

We're going to be rich now, you

know.

What?

Give me some eggs.

The study noted that eggs are

known to be a source of key

nutrients that support brain

health, which leads to the

investigation.

The researchers analyzed data

from nearly 40,000 US adults

over 65 years.

Oh, I thought over for over 65,

but they're 65 years old.

From a large study linked to

Medicare records to identify

Alzheimer's diagnosis.

After 15 years, 2858 people had

developed Alzheimer's.

What a terrible number.

The participants diet and

lifestyle were assessed via

questionnaire.

I think this is just assumed

information.

They can't really.

I mean, if they how?

Do you know if the person has

Alzheimer's?

How many eggs did you eat

yesterday?

And their bubble gum is their

answer.

Bubble.

Gum.

Yeah, sounds like they had a lot

of brain power there.

So the scales anywhere from

never ate eggs before to eat

five times per week.

Egg intake was divided into two

types, visible eggs like boiled,

scrambled and fried, and hidden

eggs, which are used in

ingredients of foods like baked

goods.

Oh, I didn't think about that.

As long as you're consuming egg

in any form at all now.

I'm eating more eggs every week,

right?

I mean, I just ate some bread,

so right?

There's, there's egg, yeah.

Look at that, people that ate

eggs one to 23123 times per

month or once a week at a 70%

lower risk of Alzheimer's.

One to three times a month.

That's it.

One to three.

Times per month.

Yeah, I know.

If it's not, that's what I'm

saying.

It doesn't seem like it seems.

Like you can just get that

amount of egg from bread right?

Yeah, right.

So.

Therefore, nobody gets

Alzheimer's.

You would think right?

There's a lot of people that

don't eat bread though.

OK, do you eat pasta?

And there's extra.

Pasta no like gluten people like

they don't eat that type of well

they.

Eat well, they still has egg.

Gluten's not egg.

Most no, Most like breads or

pastas and stuff like that have

gluten.

Right, but gluten is not an egg

product, no.

I understand what you're saying,

but I'm saying if they.

Eat gluten free eggs or gluten

free bread.

They're still getting eggs.

That's a.

Thing of the that's now though,

they didn't have that back in

the day when they were doing

this test.

You think they just started this

test what, last week, right?

Just last week, no.

It had to be started a long time

ago.

It's a brand new.

Study, it says right here, this

is brand new.

What?

The fuck did he just say?

Not sure what's going on with

him.

Is that mask too tight?

Good enough?

The blood that you're talking

about.

This mask is not going to work

just by the way well.

We have 7 more of or.

We have 8 more of if all.

The eye things are like this.

It's not going to work.

Well, they are different shaped

faces, so I imagine the eye

holes are different.

And he did a terrible job

cutting.

Yeah, this.

Is dude, my eyes feel like

they're being squished.

This is.

Beautiful I.

Think this got your head so big

we might need bigger straps?

No, it's the, it's the mask.

Like I can feel it.

It's like on my eye because.

Yeah, when I put it on it, it

pokes into the outside edges.

Yeah.

So he did a terrible job.

Try not.

To blink, it's.

Children sizes, is that?

Oh.

Yeah, it's kid sizes.

It's.

Yeah, it's a children mask, but

your.

Brother made him pointy in the

corners with his scissor cutting

to try.

To fit more eye instead.

Of round I mean I would have cut

a rounder side, not make him

Asian Princess Peach he.

Obviously wasn't making crafts

for your mom back in the day.

He didn't make anything for his

mother back in the day, all

right.

Investigations evolving in a

popular Winter Park coffee shop

is now led to an arrest after

police say customers were

secretly recording inside a

restroom.

Customers, customers.

Said they were being secretly

recorded inside a restroom.

Over.

Multiple days.

According to an arrest

affidavit, hidden cameras were

discovered inside the restroom

used by Barney's Coffee and Tea

customers on Park Ave. on March

22nd, March 25th and again on

April 28th.

What are the?

Justification for the placement

of the cameras.

Do we know yet?

There is no.

Justification of placement

inside a bathroom.

The guy did.

Not not like there are rational.

Reasons why you would have to do

this?

Put in by Barneys.

Some dude did it right.

Like an.

Employee.

No, they.

Arrested 27 year old Nicholas

Sebastian on charges of digital

voyeurism.

Such weird.

Laws nowadays that's not a.

That's not a weird law, Digital.

Voyeurism.

Yeah.

I mean, why could they?

I mean, there's got to be

something else.

But.

You're taking.

Videos I understand.

But it there's, it had to be

called something before digital

voyeurism, yeah.

Voyeurism before things were

digital?

I don't think so.

And.

Weird material for you to go

peeping, Tommy.

Peeping.

Tommy.

Peeping Tommy.

Yeah, yeah.

That's the title of the

individual, what they're doing

police.

Say surveillance video showed

Sebastian placing hidden cameras

inside the restroom.

According to the report.

One of his law professors at

Barry University later

identified him from surveillance

images.

Wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait.

So the police put cameras in the

bathroom to catch the guy

placing the cameras in the

bathroom.

That's that's.

That's the way you just read it

maybe.

There's cameras outside the

bathroom and they see him going

in, maybe with a camera in his

hand, comes back out with no

camera in his hand.

And then they put out pictures

of do you know this guy and his

law professor ratted him out.

Investigators say 1 memory card

contained video of 18 people

inside the restroom.

I assume a different time at

1:00.

Time, yeah, I assume.

Different times, including men,

women and children.

Oh, the.

Children, now you're in deep,

deep.

Now he's.

Yeah, very, very bad.

Very bad.

Now it'll be.

Something like videotaping of a

minor under the age of for

sexual reasons could be.

Production of child pornography?

Yeah, they can get in.

For that too, yeah, production.

Of Diddy child porn or allegedly

is his brain.

Broken today you can't talk.

That wasn't even a complete

sentence, that mask.

Is so.

I had something in my head and I

was going to say it and then I

was trying to walk it back away

it.

Just would poop out the air.

Oh my.

God, news of the arrest is

alarming some regular customers

at the popular Winter Park

coffee shop.

Another customer told News 6 she

believed businesses should take

more responsibility for

preventing hidden cameras inside

restrooms.

What does?

That mean?

See, I wanted to talk to you

about this as a business owner,

yeah.

Do you feel it is your

responsibility to make sure

nobody puts a camera so like?

Every day I should go in there

and what?

Scan the bathrooms for recording

devices?

Get one of those little wand

devices that the CIA use.

I mean, right?

What are we talking about here?

Apparently it's your.

Responsibility.

No.

That woman.

Should just stay home and buy a

helmet you know?

What?

You'd probably be scared to do

it now because who knows what

goes on with that back down.

No, I'm not pulling it down.

Are you on?

Camera no.

All right.

I'm just putting it on you guys

now.

That should fall on the business

owner, she said.

You're running an establishment,

you have bathrooms.

You need to do your due

diligence due.

Diligence and apparently, you.

Need to go in there every 10

minutes right?

Yeah.

Oh, there's another good

question.

Like how often do we have to?

Scan right?

Is it after?

Every person that goes in and

out right then you should tell.

Keanu, that is his job.

Now and.

You should literally give him a

stick and say it's a wand but

not have.

It to be an actual wand.

Tell him he has to go in there.

With everyone who.

Goes to the bathroom to make

sure they don't install a

camera.

That kid.

Gets so tortured, man.

So I I told my wife a story

about something that I did to

him years ago.

Did you hear about this?

This is this is funny.

So he plugs in the alarm

upstairs, but he doesn't do it

fast enough.

And for whatever reason, the

alarm goes off, right.

Yeah.

Palmer.

So he.

Calls me it.

It's a great story.

He calls me.

He's like, look, the alarm went

off.

I I don't know what to do.

I'm like, well, how long was the

alarm going off?

Was it more than three seconds?

And he says, yeah, it was

definitely more than three

seconds.

So all right, I just need you to

remain calm.

They're coming.

There's going to be about 7 to

12 squad cars that are going to

be there because they think

you're being robbed.

I need you to walk outside.

Keep me on speakerphone.

Go outside.

OK, Turn and face the building.

OK, Put your hands on your head.

OK?

Now get down on your knees.

And I finally let him in on the

fact that, All right, they're

not coming.

Just go to work dude.

Yeah, I remember that we were

passing that video around each

other.

Yeah, I was going to.

Say, and he has video of it.

Yeah, of course I have.

Video of.

IT News News 6 contacted

Barney's management for comment.

They said the lady was crazy,

too.

They're not doing that yet.

Good.

They said thank you for the

inquiry.

We will let the law enforcement

provide any comments.

Yeah, is it Barney's?

What a place for that to happen

at now.

One of the.

Comments said it wasn't

exclusively Barney's bathroom.

It was in like a hotel lobby.

And there are, there's a coffee

shop which is Barney's.

There's a place that sells.

Oh, that sucks.

Because Barney's getting bad

publicity.

Yeah, Barney's is.

Getting the blame for it.

It must be closest to Barney's.

Oh, that's not right.

So it's not.

That'd be like you having to

check the smoke shop next door

back, right?

Yeah.

That's not right.

Or you should.

Start doing that too.

No, I'm not.

Doing that, no, they probably.

Definitely have one tell Karen.

To buy a helmet and stay home.

All right, it's skater season in

the state of Florida.

Applications are now open

statewide.

According to Florida Fish and

Wildlife Conservation

Commission, applications are now

being accepted for both the

statewide Alligator Harvest

Program and the Alligator Super

Hunt Program.

Alligator harvest.

I like how they they they make

it sound nice.

Yeah.

Murder the Gators is what it

should be called.

Hunters have.

Until May 18th to submit one for

phase one application for the

statewide Alligator Harvest

program.

Those selected through a random

drawing will be allowed to hunt

in one alligator management unit

or county.

Do you know how to kill the

alligators?

Yeah, bang.

Stick, bang, stick, right.

Phil, do you know what a bang

stick is?

It's it's not something for your

movies.

Dead inside me.

It's how they measure.

He thinks in the movie, if you

are this big, you get the bang.

All right, so an alligator super

hunt application period runs

through June 8th.

Hunters can pay to apply

multiple times.

So the first one you pay one

time, you're allowed to go hunt

and get one Gator and they tell

you where you can go.

That's the harvest part super

hunt.

You can apply as many times as

you want and you get more

Gators.

Plus you can go to anywhere.

Why even?

Have the first category I don't

understand because there's.

Certain areas that have more

alligators than others and they

want to make sure enough people

go to that place to harvest, OK.

To harvest.

Harvest, yes.

So they give out less super

Gator implications.

You guys can go kill any Gator

you want anywhere.

Right, right.

Those chosen may be allowed to

hunt in most alligator

management units and counties

across Florida.

That was itchy.

So see the difference is super

hunt is almost anywhere in the

state and a regular permit it

is.

You're locked into one specific

county or water.

Source gotcha is hunting.

On your guys list of stuff to

do, No.

Does your wife like to go

hunting?

No.

We've never gone hunting, never

hiking, Not hunting, yes.

Yes, you're very, very, very

outdoorsy.

Did you?

Did you get berries on the way

there?

Did you eat anything on the

path?

No.

No, you don't eat wild berries.

That's not a good idea.

You don't know the difference.

I figured you would know the

difference by now.

Just don't eat.

The berries edible thing.

Well, there's some you can't

eat.

Yeah, OK.

But.

I you don't need to you ate

before you started the hike.

That's not a real.

Hike.

But what if you get?

Hungry.

That's a walk.

OK, a walk.

Trail mix 'cause you're on the

trail you do take.

Trail mix.

That's a thing.

Bag labeled trail mix Have you

ever had?

Peruvian food.

I don't recall we passed a

Peruvian.

Restaurant, but I don't remember

where it was probably.

Anywhere on OBT?

No, we weren't in OBT.

We were.

We were.

Where'd we go?

We went.

Oh, Sanford.

There's one in Sanford.

OK, that's what we like.

Peruvian, right?

He's going to Peru soon.

Oh, are you?

And are you sleeping in the tent

or the three layer of hotels

that are hung on the side?

I have no.

Idea.

I'm not in charge of any of

that.

You haven't asked.

No, I don't ask.

So when?

You get there and she hands you

a rope and you look down and see

a two man pup tent and she goes.

We have to climb down there, so

we you just climb.

The rope, I don't feel you're.

Strong enough to climb it is.

I can climb a rope.

I see what we're doing next time

Greg's on the show, Yeah.

I I need.

You to hang a rope in that tree

out there.

I can climb a rope.

Got it.

See if he can climb it.

Peruvian.

Oh, that's gonna be where the

the bang bang's at, huh?

What does that mean?

The white bang.

Bang, has he got Tourette's?

This is.

Amazing you guys don't.

Know what Bang Bang is the bang.

Bang Bang shrimp.

No, so it's spicy shrimp, you

can get it.

No, the pure.

White.

Come on, guy.

Peruvian.

Oh.

Oh, Peruvian bang.

Bang, yeah.

Bang Bang.

Sorry, you didn't really say it

all as one word.

Come on, all.

You said was Bang Bang the Bang

Bang we were talking about.

Him going to Peru?

Peruvian.

I thought you were.

Asking if he was going to Bang

Bang in one of the tents.

I'm sure he.

Will we're talking about the

white stuff.

I mean the white, the the

powder, whatever on the side of

a.

Mountain is on his list, yeah,

I'm sure.

It is.

Yeah, I'm sure it is.

Well anyway, the three I saw ATV

show the three level 1 looks

quite nice actually.

Oh, OK.

Tents they.

No, it's a three level thing

that you sleep in on the side of

a mountain.

Oh, like.

A Like a bungalow food.

And stuff.

They bring you the meal and the

I.

Could do that, Yeah.

You climb down.

You're in there.

It's 3 levels.

I mean, you can walk around

inside the tent.

I don't think you're walking

much.

Yeah, yeah.

How many times?

Have these houses fallen down

off the off the mountain well?

It's still a tent like material,

so it just has three floors.

Yeah, I'm not staying in that.

No, I'm not.

Either you look out, I mean.

I'll send you guys photos, why

do you have to go?

To the bathroom, is there just a

hole on the bottom floor?

Yeah, just.

Yeah, just let it.

Fly.

Not that kind of hole it is

there's.

Just nobody on the other side

box for.

Sexually explicit material.

Great.

It's like Barney.

'S man, you got a.

Video over there, Phil.

Well, I mean, after what we're

just talking about, I could have

one.

You want me to find one?

Some outtakes.

From your movie?

Something from the set of the

zombie movie.

Oh, I have a photo.

Somebody sent me the movie

poster for your new movie Dead

Inside.

I saw.

That did you get?

It too.

Yeah, I got it too.

I didn't get your number.

It's beautiful.

No, he sent it to me via insta I

think.

Oh all.

Right, so how do you know I was?

Having a movie, am I getting

paid That was.

Where you were the other day, I

better be.

Getting paid on the set of your.

Movie Dead Inside.

Can you see that?

Yep, that is.

Amazing.

Wow, that is your.

Your new zombie porn.

Nice.

Dead.

Inside me dead.

Inside me, I'm glad my.

Character's got all these

different things going on

coming.

Soon did.

You smell it, right?

No.

But nevertheless, nevertheless.

Still funny?

I'll throw that up here in 26

minutes.

All right, on the cigar news,

California cigar tax rate is

decreasing this summer.

Oh.

Surprise, surprise.

Why is that a surprise?

No, I'm just saying.

It's a surprise, but why are

you?

Surprised because.

California would never bring

their stuff down.

That is a surprise.

Oh, the.

California Department of Tax and

Fee Administration has announced

its annual adjustment to the

cigar tax rate.

Do they do this every year in

California?

I don't know.

But like the the drop was

nominal.

Yeah, it's like.

Nothing.

There's like a couple.

Of I think they went from like

58 to 58 to like 52 or something

like that.

Let's read.

On and see.

Please read and it's a bit of a

good news for cigar smokers

Well, not terribly on July 1st

the rate will drop from 54.27%

to the percent of the wholesale

cost sorry to 51 O 8% yeah so

like.

A three-point swing.

About 3 point swing. 50. 1%

that's crazy.

That's the.

Lower one, yeah, that's.

Crazy.

You wouldn't even.

Really notice the?

Maybe if you were buying like

$1000.

No, I.

Mean you would.

Let's hope it's a $20 cigar.

You're going to see like a $3

swing because it's off of the

wholesale basis.

Change.

It will save consumers at least

a little bit of money.

In the case of a cigar with oh

here we go, case of a cigar with

a 950 price MSRP of $9.50, the

change works out to a savings of

about $0.16.

Yeah, that's nominal, man.

Yeah, you're not going to.

By half wheel estimates since

California's tobacco tax rates

percentage of the wholesale

price.

The higher the MSRP, the greater

the savings.

There's no savings because you

still got to pay for the skew in

the box and all that good stuff.

Well, this is for the consumer.

Well, you said wholesale it's.

Based on the wholesale price,

but the consumers the one paying

the taxes at point of purchase.

California adjusted cigar tax

annually and it is based on the

cigarette tax.

How that rate relates to the

average price of a pack of

cigarettes?

Oh, that seems bad.

Doesn't seem.

Like they should correlate, no

seems like.

They're completely two

different.

Things so if the.

Cigarette price goes up or down,

the tax goes up.

I have no.

Idea, but they shouldn't

correlate.

Since 2008, the cigar tax rated

has changed from a low of 27.3%

in parts of 2016 and 17 to a

high of 65 which went into

effect on July 1st, 2017.

Oh my Lord, I.

Don't know why anybody lives in

California.

Thank God we're.

In Florida, baby.

But this I was correct.

This isn't like the tariff or I

guess it is like the consumer.

The end consumers 1 ends up

getting screwed on this always

just.

Gets passed on until the final

user right?

But some of these states have

got floor tax, so like they

don't actually collect the tax

to be paid upon sale to the

consumer.

It's based off of whatever your

inventory is, right?

So if your inventory is X, they

just multiply .58 or 51.3% now

and you have to pay it.

Yeah, I've had.

Customers tell me before, can't

buy anything this week.

We just paid the taxes, right?

Yeah, well.

That stinks, all right.

Oscar Valedari's tobacco and

company partners with volutes at

Vitola's for distribution in

France.

Vol.

UTES volutes El Satimo.

Name change.

No, no, El Satimo, totally

different.

Dude, Oscar.

Valedari's Tobacco and Company

Cigars have begun arriving in

French cigar shops after the

company signed a distribution

agreement with Violets ET

Vitolas.

So the vitolas I know.

What's Vol.

Well, I'm asking the wrong guys.

Never mind.

Hello, my name is Luciano, I

have a new French company.

I don't like to dub the stuff

you say.

It's a pain in the butt.

Oh, now?

You're doing no work.

No, I.

Just don't want to have to look

for you saying one word.

We have to watch the show

though.

Yeah, I.

Don't like to re watch the

entire show?

Already went through it once.

The company's debut in France is

led by The Leaf by Oscar Toro,

available in Connecticut, Coro

Maduro and Sumatra blends.

It's priced at anybody.

It's like a 10.

Dollars to go in the United

States?

Freedom Dollars.

Yeah, but we're going on French

price.

Yeah, it's French.

Now bro, it's a.

French.

You got to give a French price,

OK?

14 and you have to say.

It with a French accent I don't

do.

Accents le. 14.

What did you say?

How was that?

It is the as you say, $14.00 you

say, they say.

LA in front of everything.

LA 14.

La. 14 No, no, you 15.

LA 15.

LA 15.

LA 15 No, no, you're both.

Wrong.

It is 25.

Oops, sorry.

LA 25920 Greg.

Was closer freedom?

Dollars.

Freedom Dollars.

Freedom Dollars.

Man, it's the whole world's on

Freedom dollars and offered in

the 10 count box.

The line is well known both in

the US and beyond for its unique

packaging as you eat cigars

wrapped in a tobacco leaf.

Oh, aren't the French will try

to smoke them wrapped in the

leaves now too like they did

when they first got here?

Yeah.

Oh, these days they're blue.

Why is it wrapped in the leaf?

La.

Leaf also coming to France.

There's a bundle cigar called

Plan B.

Wow, Yeah, somebody missed out

there, right?

Wow.

That's the day after thing.

I know.

What this.

Yeah, I know.

What Plan B is.

Yeah, yeah.

Wow, you think somebody would

have checked that, huh?

No, they they checked it

afterwards.

Like man, we fucked up.

Maybe in France it means

something completely different.

The Americans, they give us a

cigar called the Plan B.

Yeah, that's what they.

Should have done that is.

When we asked for help in the

war, that is our Plan B.

Yeah, that's why.

We gave you the but in.

America it is a pill.

Oh how strange.

Which is available in the US.

It's also available they can buy

me the US.

It's also offered in a 6 by 52

Toro size with three blends

Connecticut Maduro and Corojo.

That cigars priced at 9:00.

Dollars nine.

Dollars still France.

I'm going to.

Go $20.

No, it is 12 and 96, but you

just said it was.

Going to be released in the US

as well.

So I did it in American

currency, $9.

Well. 1296 in freedom Dollars in

freedom.

Dollars but this American.

Cigar is now offered in France.

This is the price in France, did

you think?

Did you think Freedom Dollars

meant French, Greg?

I don't know what he's talking

about all the time.

American money's called Freedom

Dollars.

USD.

Yes, freedom.

Who coined this Freedom dollars?

Everybody does.

I've never heard this term used

before.

You know the.

You know the guys that rushed

the White House, they.

Go.

The.

Freedom guy with the Buffalo hat

on that stormed the gates.

There's also freedom

measurements.

Yeah, yeah.

No, our.

Measurements are just wrong.

No, they're.

Not yeah, they why are you

against US measurements?

Because.

It's silly.

No, it's not so.

Do you have a tape measure that

it's totally?

Silly that shows 1.

Millimeter so like.

So you have inches, right, that

convert to feet, right?

Correct.

So like feet convert to a good,

a good, a good point of

measurement.

Would that be like 10 inches

equals 1 foot?

No, it's 12 inches, 12 inches

equal 1 foot, right.

OK, that's fine.

So then you have feet that

convert to yards a yard, right.

OK.

So good conversion with five,

maybe 10 feet to no, it's three

because that doesn't make any

sense.

Sure, that's.

Just the rules, yeah.

Wait, tell me how millimeters

work.

He's.

Saying, 'cause that millimeters,

everything's on 10, right?

But why is that?

That's just a random thing too.

That's not.

Random it's it's the same thing

spread out over all of it, so

there's no change in the metrics

3.

Yards.

Correct, there's.

No change in the metrics.

Gotcha.

So 10.

Millimeters make what?

A meter no 10mm make a

centimeter 10 centimeters make a

meter 10 meters.

I don't know how many meters in

a in a mile or what.

What is you're?

You're.

You're.

OK, wait, wait.

What is the metric equivalent of

a mile?

Don't look it up.

Well, that's easy.

That that's a kilometer.

Kilometers.

In a mile, no.

It's.

Not I said what?

Is the equivalent.

It's It's a fraction because

they.

Don't they don't correlate, they

don't communicate with each

other right?

They they don't run in the same

whole numbers.

How many?

Yards in a mile.

I don't know, I could have to

load up 5002. 180 I mean these.

Are just things people?

Should know, yeah, but no the.

That in itself is just a silly

number.

How long have you been an?

American at. 44 years you should

know.

These things, why?

Because you're an.

American, for goodness sake,

Greg.

How much does a whopper cost?

Oh, I wouldn't know that.

OK, How?

Much do your boots cost?

I like everyone's cost A.

$120.00.

How come you know that but you

don't know how many?

How many boots?

Not whoppers.

How many?

How many dollars in a $5.00

bill?

What?

Yeah.

Follow me.

Here how many?

How many dollars in a $5.00

bill?

All right, we can.

Play this game.

Sure, Greg, Win 5.

How many dollars in a $10.00

bill 10?

How many?

Fives in a $10.00 bill 2 Why is

all that OK but you can't handle

the inches and moves because of.

How?

Many dollars are in a pound.

How many dollars are in a pound?

Yeah, How many dollars are in a

pound?

How many?

How many?

Dollars.

How many pints?

Are in a pound?

How many?

Pints I.

Don't know what's before the

pound are.

You talking about for conversion

rate United States dollars to

pounds Yeah, I'd have to look

that up 'cause it's constantly

changing, 'cause you're.

American and you know what's in

a mile and a yard and a dollar

and a whopper and your boots

they.

Didn't know the whopper.

What the he, he?

Should know the whopper then.

I don't buy whoppers.

What is the?

What is the you should buy?

Whoppers for the next show for

us?

Well, they.

Kind of.

Everything's not a pound.

I mean, they're going to have

cents and stuff.

Don't they have coins?

Yeah, yeah.

I think it's like Pence or

something like that.

Oh, I.

Thought you were trying to say

pints.

Well, how about this?

One right so Peruvian sold the

the rate is like .36 I know that

because I had to go to the bank

to go get cash yeah you're

getting.

Ready to go to Peru, They should

take American.

They take American money

everywhere.

Not always, yeah.

Not always, yeah.

American money's universal.

It's.

Freedom dollars.

Freedom.

Dollars.

You always travel with $100 in

your pocket when you go to a

foreign country, and smaller

bills.

Always.

Smaller bills, hey, will you

take?

This one take one of your.

Watches.

It looks expensive.

That could help you out too.

No, you.

Wear an inexpensive watch and

not a lot of jewelry.

Well, what are you going to do

there?

You don't wear.

Any of this when you travel?

Watch that.

Watch Might.

Get you across the border in a

heartbeat when you're out of

money.

Tabacalera de Garcia, Florida de

Copan resumed shipments to Altis

USA and Jr.

Cigar.

Yeah, this is.

Big yeah, so.

This is that guy that stole all

the money and then they took the

factories.

You with us?

Over there, Phil Yeah.

Florida Copan, a cigar factory

in Honduras, and Tablicalera de

Garcia, a factory in the

Dominican Republic, have resumed

shipments to Cigars and

Tabacularia USA, reversal of

major change that abruptly

shocked both factories last

year.

The US Office of Foreign Asset

Control, or OFAC Oh, I.

Like that, granted a.

Temporary license to the Tablet

Calera, the Spanish based

company that operates both

factories, which allows the

company to do business with

American companies until 2028.

So it's just two years.

So Spanish Factory owns the one

factory in Honduras and the

other factory in Dominican

Republic.

OK.

So then they gave.

Well, I'm asking more than

telling.

So then they gave a license to

the Spanish guys that you can

make cigars in these two

countries.

Yeah, All right.

Makes sense to.

Me.

What does that?

What does that mean for AJ?

Because that's where they moved

all their stuff, AJ.

Only AJ.

He'll probably retain a portion

of it, yeah.

Would they be?

OK?

Let's talk cigars here for a

minute.

I think, Greg, would they be

smarter than to?

OK, let's back up here.

You think the tobacco is still

at these factories that they had

from before?

You think it's been dispersed or

swiped or stolen or rotted?

That's a really.

Good question.

I would say it's probably still

there.

I don't, I mean they may have

sold some of it, but if

everything got frozen like

you're if you're not able to

trade, you're not able to trade.

Well, that's.

That's the next question then.

How locked down is it?

Did they send military there to

patrol the grounds or they just

put a chain on the door and go?

Nobody can come in and then

nobody's been there for whatever

is 12 weeks.

That's another.

Really good question because.

Then I would go get the tobacco,

not sell it.

I like if I was just some guy in

Dominican Republic.

Well, change and.

Just take it out.

I'm.

I'm sure there would be not

necessarily like government

guards there, but like guards

that are employed by the factory

to make sure nobody's taking.

It cousin who's one of the

guards tell you when most people

aren't there.

It's usually after 5:00.

Yeah, but like you say, it's

usually.

After 5:00, usually after. 5:00

Oh yeah, I can figure it's at

night like I'm not.

Familiar with like Dominican

factories because I haven't been

there, but I can tell you how it

is in Nicaragua, right?

OK, let's say.

It's in so so in.

Nicaragua, your security system

is a guy that stays there all

all night long on a small

factory, just give on a big

factory, it's multiple guys that

are there.

Yeah.

To secure this, got a.

Guy right that he.

Stays there, Yeah.

Then they had the.

Bicycle guys with the whistles,

but they had a.

Problem at one point with the

guy because the guy would go off

to meet his girlfriend and leave

the place.

All of a sudden he just went on

to cameras for a while, no?

No, he didn't leave to go and

do.

I'm trying to be nice.

OK.

Yeah.

No, it was on premise.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well.

I was trying to not say that

part, but you know, not

something else.

I have to edit it. 40 minutes.

Let's talk.

More about that.

So I got to imagine at these

factories, OK, they send a girl

over to talk to Juan, who is the

night guard by the big door and

the girl and the girl goes,

Juan, let's go boop, boop over

here.

So Juan leaves the door, Pepe

and whoever else comes cracks

the chain and takes 40 bundles

of tobacco out 40.

Bundles of tobacco Well 40.

Polones, I'm not 40.

Polones, that's a lot.

I know it.

Is it takes a really long time,

this girl, I mean, yeah, no.

So like the the value of

tobacco, let's let's say it's

like, I don't know, $15 a pound.

Do you realize how much tobacco

you would actually have to move

for it to be a large dollar

amount?

You would need a large.

Drop a guy with his own little

factory that has 1 1/2 rollers.

Just went to Pallone's where you

can make free cigars.

I'm not saying it's all gone.

Well.

He's at 4:00.

I don't.

So that's probably a lot of gone

you.

Don't think any.

No, I think that.

If you own that factory, you

it's a secure factory and nobody

is taking well if you.

Own it.

You're not allowed to go back to

it.

No, no.

No, no, you weren't allowed to

sell out of it.

No, they locked the doors and

chained them, I read they kicked

everybody out.

Oh, I don't remember that part.

So then you would.

Think it would be up to the

government to put a guard there?

So I or the local?

Militia or whatever they happen

to have, I don't know so with

the with the tobacco be bad

nobody's been flipping it

nobody's been rolling it

nobody's done anything to it

then you put those little pods

in there that explode and catch

on fire most of it's.

Stored in bales like it's

already packaged up.

It's huge big bags of tobacco

that's been pressed and

condensed and stored.

But don't they?

I mean, I've never been because

you guys won't send me, but

don't they still have to flip it

or something?

Not once.

It's at that stage, no, when

it's in the.

Bell flip, flip.

Flipping happens in the in the

fermentation.

Process tobacco that's in the

future.

The stages before that does

still have to be in.

The pre pre.

Embargo.

I don't know.

What?

It's called.

So if the tobacco is because

I've never been.

Filled.

I don't know, I'm making this

stuff up.

If the tobacco.

'S being fermented.

It's in P loans, but once it

goes through that process it

gets stored in huge bales and

then so I imagine.

This big factory has tobacco in

different stages I I.

Would assume it's possible

unless it doesn't.

It just stores tobacco and buys

from pre industry.

But I would assume that their

factories definitely were

processing pre industry tobacco.

So then you think with this open

from till 2028, that is it's not

like, OK, you can open, but you

can only use the tobacco you

had, You can't bring any more

tobacco in.

They would be completely 100%

operational.

We can do whatever it was we

were supposed to do.

Is that what?

They were told they can only use

that which they had opinion is.

As a professional who's been to

these countries and seen these

factories, well, I would say.

If they're open for trade,

they're open for trade.

They can purchase and sell.

They can acquire whatever they

need.

So the smart thing we do is sell

everything Liquidate by the end

of 2028, no?

No, not so.

They have a temporary license in

place for them to gain the

permanent license.

It's just like acquiring a

license in the United States for

beer and wine, right?

You you get a temporary one as

the paperwork is being processed

for the permanent one.

The the smart business is to

stay in business and get the

license to be permanent.

They need to.

Watch the news and see how the

trial's going to see if they're

going to take the factory again.

Well, who knows how that shakes

out, but I, I, I think that this

is a step in the right direction

where they'll be able to

commence with trade and

eventually get licensing again.

Yeah, I.

Think what's happened by them

getting that temporary is that

they've already separated

themselves.

Yeah.

Oh wait, we have good.

News Separately, the UK Office

of Financial Sanctions

implemented has issued a similar

license that is valid till 2031.

I don't know how that works.

The country says you can go at

2028, you have to stop.

No, no, UK said 2031.

I'm still good.

Love the British.

Well, any.

Any I got another I got.

Another three years out of this,

any license.

Has an expiration date anyways,

yes.

But two different countries have

gave them two different licenses

to do the same thing that expire

on two different dates.

Yeah, to.

Operate in commerce in their

country.

Do you get it?

Well, the first.

One was to operate the factory

in the country, right?

So in. 20 Let's say they do not

get another license, so in 2028

they have to stop working at the

factory again, right?

But.

They will wind up getting a

permanent license by that time.

You don't know that for sure.

Oh my God, if I had.

To a factory that made cigars.

You guys won't let me go, as was

first reported the Spanish

newspaper El Confidential.

The most compelling

justification for the reprieve

is so that the corporation can

continue the process of trying

to remove its majority

shareholder, Shenzi, who is

currently in Chinese custody and

remains under indictment by

American, British and other

authorities in.

Trouble.

Yeah, but if he stays in China,

the Americans and the British

and whoever else I just said

can't get in.

Yet.

There's no extradition from from

the Communist, Yeah, but.

I I would much rather be in an

American or British prison than

a Chinese prison.

I'm sure.

They're I'm sure they're some

of.

Them I'm.

Sure there is extradition when

it's federal.

No, no.

It's not.

Why does the Chinese care about

our federal laws?

Yeah.

You don't think Interpol works

with?

That's.

International Interpol is in

Europe.

That's not Chinese.

OK, what are they?

Inspectors?

The Inspectorism.

This is amazing.

This is absolutely amazing.

Well, Jackie.

Chan comes out of the back room

and says no, no, you pick him

out.

He's from.

Hong Kong the the.

The the Chinese version of

Interpol is called inspectorism.

They're inspectors.

Because he saw what was the name

of the movie Rush.

Hour rush.

Hour he knows all about Chinese

it's.

What rush hourism?

Well, I watched the other one he

was in too.

Oh, what?

Was that one what was?

The first one, it was like, what

was the very first one he ever

did?

I don't.

Know Bronze Rumble?

In the Bronx, oh, rumble.

In the Bronx he was an inspector

then, too.

He didn't get promoted much

between the two movies then.

No, he didn't.

What's the highest you can go?

Chief Inspectorism.

Inspectorism Level 3.

All right.

There's also includes the local

Cuban cigar distributors in

various countries, some of which

have come under increased

banking scrutiny due to their

owners.

All right, Simon, the industry's

favorite game.

What's?

The score, we're not giving

enough.

Yeah, Greg A.

Little more enthusiastic, a

little more.

Enthusiastic.

This is the industry's.

Favorite game?

Yeah, Greg, there are brands

that are playing this as we do

the show I.

Get it?

This is as excited as I get

about it.

All right, we're going to try.

Again, we need a little more

Abby.

You're not.

Going to get anymore Mikey you

want to.

Help us out here, volume.

Here we go When?

We sit when?

We do it.

You yell, what's the score?

OK, the industry's favorite

game.

What's the score?

Thank you, Michael.

See you.

He did a good job.

He does a good.

Job March.

First cigar is March 27th, 2012.

Brooks Whittington cigar is the

Brooks Whittington cigars.

Why is he called that?

He's got a.

Subcontractor, OH, apparently.

Dominican Republic The cigar is

called the Second Growth.

OK, are you familiar with?

The cigar growth, No.

Well, I'm not going to ask you.

You're over there with your

inspectorisms.

Sounds like a bad.

Physical.

Condition.

Yeah, it almost.

Sounds like the thing after the

Plan B.

The second growth.

The second growth.

You're up, Greg.

Somebody vote.

Oh no.

You go first.

Oh.

If you would hit the test

button, I have set up the

fireworks for you.

If you by chance win, you know

how you should know how they

operate.

Stole them from you.

So I'm going to guess it's his

cigar 91.

Oh, is that the cleaning?

Yeah.

All right.

Turn it off.

Great.

All right.

What did you say?

Phil, 90.

One Phil says. 9190 first cool

oh the the information second

growth.

It is a Dominican Republic

factories Occidental cigar

factory.

You familiar with them?

No rappers Ecuador is a habano

hybrid binders Dominican

Republic fillers Honduran and

Dominican Republic It is a 7 and

78 by 54 Churchill Grande.

They smoked 2 cigars, 90. 190.

Clue #1 Rich, complex blend

Dominican and Honduran fillers

under the Ecuador Habano hybrid

wrapper give it a layered

profile with depth that keeps

evolving. 9293.

He's just.

Playing you.

He's not even listening to what

I'm saying.

This Churchill Grande size

delivers a long slow burn with a

luxurious feel that matches the

high end positioning. 98. 98 for

a cigar called like nobody in

this room has heard of.

Well.

I just wanted to see where Greg

was going to go.

Ever made sun after and shops

throughout the world.

I just want to.

See where Greg was going to go?

Oh my.

God, you tell him I'm playing

him and he says 98400.

My.

God, oh 93. 3rd.

Third clue This $78 price tag

hits hard, expectations are sky

high, and not every smoker is

going to feel the experience

justifies the cost, you say?

$78 yes.

A stick, Yes.

Oh wow, freedom.

Money.

Freedom.

Money.

Freedom Dollars non.

Peruvian Non.

Peruvian.

Oh, you need me to guess?

Sorry, your last score was 98 if

you didn't remember.

Yeah. 93.

I'm going to go 93 as well.

All right, final thought.

I have to say, the construction,

burn, draw, and smoke production

we're all phenomenal on this

cigar.

Oh wow.

None of them could be any

better.

Unfortunately, the joy I felt in

those regards just does not

carry over to the flavors that

are present, as with no cigars

blended by Kellner.

Oh, at least I've heard of him.

I found the second growth to be

overly simplistic in terms of

flavors and profile and the

absolute monster size.

And you have almost 2 1/2 hours

of wonderful constructed

monotony.

It is a Is it a bad cigar?

Not by any means.

In fact, if you like the profile

I described above and are

willing to pay the price, you'll

probably love it as it really

all there is to it.

But I seem to consistently be

hoping for more complexity, more

flavors and more shifts and what

I was tasting, and unfortunately

I was constantly let down.

Oh boy. 85. 86 You went the.

Wrong way. 70. 60 Wow.

No, no, not for him.

Don't put the farmer trim.

OK.

No, no, you could still win the

second.

Wouldn't pick it back up.

Oh, OK.

It's not working.

See, that's why we're not

paying, OK?

Even our tech guy can't get it

to work.

It's all right.

It doesn't have to work often.

Oh.

Yeah, I don't know why that's

weird.

We'd.

Like our check back please.

You have to get.

Down there and shake them.

Fucking paid.

For them, they don't work.

That's weird.

They work.

They work before you touch them.

All right.

The one time you used them at

your house, you're lucky you

didn't catch your bedroom on

fire.

They were in his bedroom, you

know they.

Weren't.

No, they weren't.

They weren't in his bedroom, you

know they.

Weren't at some point I saw.

Them they were not in his

bedroom use.

Them for something else.

He's not going to miss an

opportunity set off.

Fireworks.

I know some stories.

That's just an upgrade from what

he told May 12th, 2024.

Patrick Lagreed Cigars.

Oh, apparently he's got his own

company too.

The Sacrificio Junior.

You're first now, Greg on the.

100.

They're making a mockery of my

game.

I'm going to guess 76.

Cigar reviews cef whatever I

said it was country of origins

Nicaragua tabacolera oliva de

Nicaragua rappers Ecuadorian

Connecticut binder Cameroon

villar kondaga and halapa.

It's a 5 by 50 they smoked. 3

Bootsie, you're first.

Greg, why am I first?

Because.

I won the last game, so we

switched.

Oh, you.

Said 76.

I'm going to go 75.

I mean, it's a good factory.

You're not going to go higher.

No, OK.

I'm going to go to 84.

What did you say, 70?

Five.

Excellent.

Construction from start to

finish, clean seams, 30 ash and

a flawless burn draw makes the

cigar performance exactly how

you want it to.

Clue #176 84.

Clue #2 Creamy, approachable

profile notes of bread, cream

and light almonds create a

smooth, easygoing smoke that's

balanced and inviting,

especially in the first half. 84

He's cheating.

He's cheating Palmer.

How can you?

Cheat unless you can see the

he's just saying.

The numbers, I say yeah, 84.

Third Clue lacks progression in

depth, the profile stays fairly

safe with creaminess fading into

toast and pepper, and the final

third doesn't deliver a strong

or memorable finish. 84 That was

the.

Last clue.

Now we're going to final

thought, right?

Correct 84.

The Sacrificio Junior is a salad

cigar and does what it seemly

aims to do quite well, which is

offer a milder profile and a

fairly compact vitola.

The flavors are solid but not

overwhelming, the construction

is very good, and the overall

experience is a very good one.

If there is a knock on the

cigar, it's that it already

existed seemingly every humidor

in the country, whether it be a

cigar store or desktop humidor

at a golf course.

Which leads me to wonder how it

will stand out, especially at a

$15 price point, as I didn't

pick up anything that

differentiated it from any

number of similar blends that

would make me pick up this one

at a premium shop. 85. 84 He.

Went the Right way 88.

Greg won.

No, you didn't.

Win I.

Said 85.

He said 84.

Yeah.

Oh, that's right.

You did win.

Sorry, only one of them is going

off.

It's good enough all.

Right.

Anybody got anything else with

this madness that's going on?

Just so, everybody.

Knows that was a setup.

That's not a setup.

All right, it's been episode 228

cigars and podcast.

Thank you for listening.

Make sure you like and what is

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All right, guys, Thank you.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

Bye.

Bing bong.

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Show Notes

On today’s show Nike is gonna pay big! Eggs are good for your mind! In winter park Florida at a local coffee shop you maybe on Candid Camera! In Florida wanna do a gator Super Hunt? Then in cigars California just got cheaper! Oscar Valdares ooo la la aldatis is back in Dominican and Honduran business!  And then it’s what’s the score double game!!