ACHP Episode 530 Soccer Cigar
Episode Summary
Episode 530 of A Cigar Hustler's Podcast opens with Mike Palmer, Mike Stepankiewicz and Greg riffing on listener comments, CHPod swag, Patreon extras (including their El Tigre Underground review) and the ongoing mask/camera saga in the studio. The non-cigar news block covers a California mayor pleading guilty to acting as an illegal agent of China, Waymo's recall of roughly 3,791 autonomous vehicles that failed to stop for flooded roadways, the lawsuit two South Florida officers filed over Ben Affleck and Matt Damon's film "The Rip," and the deaths of NBA players Brandon Clarke and Jason Collins — which leads into a sober conversation about money, access and addiction in pro sports.
The cigar segment starts with Plasencia's new release timed to the 2026 World Cup: a 6 1/4 x 54 Toro Extra using a Finca La Tradición wrapper from Honduras' Jamastran Valley, a Finca San Agustín binder from Olancho, and fillers from Finca La Tradición and Jalapa, Nicaragua. The hosts note it was rolled by a single pair of workers at Plasencia's Tabacos de Oriente factory, priced around $59.99 in 5,000 numbered boxes of 10, and that it's the company's first cigar built with organic Honduran and Nicaraguan tobacco. They compare it to Oliva's soccer-ball-humidor FIFA release and debate why brands chase each other's gimmicks.
Also in cigar news: Crowned Heads is entering the UK market for the first time via a distribution deal with Barkers of Harrogate (who also carry Gurkha, Kristoff and Macanudo), with John Huber quoted in the release — prompting the hosts to question the long-term wisdom of entering a market facing generational smoking bans. They also break down Sauter Atelier, the new cigar-specific clothing project from Lawrence and Melanie Davis that debuted inside Tatuaje's PCA booth, offering jackets and blazers with built-in cigar pockets plus planned travel cases, caps, scarves and tuxedo vests.
A long stretch of the episode is a candid critique of a promotional video featuring Matt Booth and Jonathan Sans of Sans & Sons — the new brand, Wynwood event space and direct-to-consumer venture. The hosts argue the scripted Q&A format stripped Booth of his natural authenticity, and gripe about the industry's chronic lack of microphones and controlled recording environments. The show closes with "What's the Score?", where the crew guesses the review score for the Fratello 1821 Dominican Republic Toro Gordo (6 x 58, $18.21, made at La Aurora) — a "tale of two cigars" with a mint, creamy, nutty, cedar-forward first half and a sharp, peppery second half plagued by burn and draw issues, ultimately landing at 82.
In This Episode
- 01Listener Comments and CHPod SwagThe hosts read comments about deposits, the metric system, freedom measurements, and the Sumatra hat giveaway before plugging chpod.com and Patreon.
- 02News Block: China, Waymo and The RipA California mayor pleads guilty to acting as an illegal Chinese agent, Waymo recalls 3,791 robotaxis over flooded-road failures, and two officers sue over Ben Affleck and Matt Damon's film The Rip.
- 03NBA Deaths: Brandon Clarke and Jason CollinsThe crew discusses the deaths of the Memphis Grizzlies' Brandon Clarke at 29 and Jason Collins, plus Michael Beasley's story and how money and access destroy young athletes.
- 04Critiquing the Matt Booth / Sans & Sons VideoA blunt breakdown of why a scripted promo video failed Matt Booth, plus the industry's ongoing refusal to use microphones and control the room when filming.
- 05Plasencia's 2026 World Cup CigarA 6 1/4 x 54 Toro Extra with Honduran and Nicaraguan organic tobacco, rolled by a single pair of workers, priced at $59.99 in 5,000 numbered boxes of 10.
- 06Crowned Heads Enters the UKCrowned Heads signs with Barkers of Harrogate for UK distribution, raising questions about generational smoking bans and the market's future.
- 07Sauter Atelier Cigar ClothingLawrence and Melanie Davis debut cigar-specific jackets and blazers with built-in cigar pockets at PCA inside Tatuaje's booth.
- 08What's the Score: Fratello 1821 Dominican RepublicThe Toro Gordo delivers mint, cream, nuttiness and cedar early but turns sharp and peppery with burn problems, finishing with a score of 82.
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Transcript
Start with Boots is the best. I mean, Phil is the best. That's not where it is. Either one.
Welcome to a Cigar Hustler podcast episode 530. I'm Mike Palmer, your friendly and non-confrontational host. a non-confrontational host. Engineering Today.
Phil, I just came from a three-hour meeting, and boy, is he full. Did you just come up with that? He was eating. He wasn't actually at the meeting.
Got it. Then my co-host, Mike, I forgot the shirt, Stepon Kevidge. Oh, wow. I would have solved the shirt problem.
Why did you throw him out there like that? Is that not true? You forgot the shirt? I was going back to get the shirt, but after you forgot it.
So this is true. It's just where it starts, stops. But my guy wanted to get going. Well, it's not funny if I say, and my host, Mike, I forgot the shirt, I was gonna turn around and get it, but Phil said he needed to do the meeting early, so I get up, and then Phil's here.
And I would have still had time, because it's been an hour since you got here. First of all, wait, I want to retract that. Since I got here? Only 30, 45 minutes.
But I mean, he wasn't here anyway, so it doesn't matter. You're saying I could have doubled back. Yeah, you would have technically had time the time he arrived. Well, guess what?
Not quite as funny as just saying, Mike, I forgot this shirt, Stepankiewicz. Wait, wait, I want to retract what I said because I don't want him to attack me today. Who? You.
What did you say? Well, just for the record, it doesn't even matter if I have the shirt because you don't have the picture. We have to take the picture and then it's one hour photo, I can have it in an hour. Yeah, but you don't have the picture.
But I can have it in an hour. I mean, I can say all of these other things, but then it wouldn't be funny, right? No, it's still funny because I said yesterday we needed the photo, but you guys left. Yeah, we don't have the picture.
This is just like what I just left. Except we're not women. This is exactly it. This is what people pay to hear.
Except we're not yelling at each other. Not yet. I have a photo. It just doesn't have him in it.
Remember, watch the last two episodes. Soon the beatings come with the belt. Wow. Wow.
I'm wearing diapers. You're treating us like children and spanking us with belts. Apparently the part of Tia's pregnancy where "don't touch me" is going on now. Oh.
Okay. All right, in today's show, California has ties to China, Waymo Can't Swim, the movie The Rip is way too true, Memphis Grizzlies may have open tryouts. Wow. Then in cigars, we have World Cup cigars, English cigars, and a special cigar clothing.
Then the show ends with a what's the score? Special cigar clothing? Yes. Okay.
But before we get started, Michael, how do people get that CH pod sway? Oh, this is my favorite part. com, where you can check out all of our latest CHPod swag, buy one, get the second one, 40% off, spend $100 more, and get free shipping. He likes to ring the gong when you're dogging.
com, wait, ahcigarhustlerspodcast. com. com, A Cigar Hustles Podcast. Correct.
Where we just had a pretty good conversation in regards to a couple things. We just reviewed, what did we review yesterday? The El Tigre. El Tigre.
The El Tigre Underground. So, check it out. If you buy the entire year, you get 10% off. Nice.
Some comments from our latest episode. Can't wait to hear them. " I gotta turn this volume down. I feel like it's getting louder in my ear.
It might be if you're sitting on it. Uh, it says: "Phil isn't too versed on the real world anymore. You need a deposit for tons of things. It shows you're serious and not wasting people's time.
I had to put a deposit down for a tattoo. A new vet appointment, a custom pistol, etc. I love how he chose those three things. To be fair, his wife probably takes care of all that and he has no idea what's going on.
Who, Phil? Phil? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's actually probably Drew.
Yeah. Or my assistant. They put down, yeah, or his assistant. Because he's basically a large man, baby, that doesn't know how the world works.
Wow. " I am. And I got news for you. You didn't, you misspelled Greg, and, uh, you know, just for the record, I know that name, Nargars, I don't know who it is, is that your mom?
No, that's Ruckus Unchained, that's Ruckus Unchained. Maybe, maybe the Gars is the mailman over here. My mom said Palmer needs to fact check what he says, laugh out loud. Shout out from Ruckus Unchained, yes, we know, look, here's the reality, the reality is that Palmer was going to say whatever he wants to say, and he's going to say it with the level of conviction that we're all going to believe it, unless you check, so I highly recommend you check, don't check, just go with it, it's more fun.
uh and i'm gonna drift back to this one from episode 528 uh ben roland says uh something about 5280 things people should know that's the number of feet in a mile not yards palmer oh it wasn't about me thank god so what did you do on that uh that's when greg was trying to say that metric system was much better than uh freedom than freedom yeah he's freedom he's an He didn't like freedom measurements, he doesn't like the term, he doesn't like how it's all random that it's 12 inches make a foot, 3 feet make a yard, and then I went on to yards into miles. Yeah, he said Americans make no sense with freedom anything, which I was like, I'm thinking in my head, I'm like, this guy uses a tape measure to cut all the wood and like, what is he talking about? Yeah. Maybe he's got a metric one.
Sometimes he's just angry, man, you know what I mean? Yeah. He is, he's just angry. I don't know why he'd be so angry.
That's why he'd be so angry. I mean, he's going on great vacations. He's got lots of money. Again on a great vacation.
His mom likes him. His mom likes him. He doesn't have to get her anymore. She comes by train.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Train and Uber. I mean, he could technically not see her, and she could come up here and leave.
Yeah. She came into town on Friday, and she said she was so tired, so she didn't go to see any of the kids' football games. Oh, God. Tired from the train ride?
Yeah. Maybe she walked on the train the entire time. I'm gonna be first, so I gotta go together on the train. I'm very tired.
I'm tired. " Hey! And you are correct, sir, indeed it is. Oh, look at you.
There it is. The Churchill is the smoothest, for sure. I had the Grand, Grand Robusto, Grand Toro. Grand Toro, I had the Grand Toro this morning, it was very smooth.
It was very good. Yeah. I like both of them. I have not smoked the Churchill, or the Grana Brousseau.
Oh, we haven't swung any hammers today either. Yeah. I don't know what that means. We work in cigars, he works in construction.
Gotcha. Well, you know, I would say that they're available upstairs, but they're not yet. Palmer's cameras stopped working. I don't know why.
So weird. So weird. I'll make sure you get one at the end of the show. Yeah, so did yours.
Thank you, Mikey. Yours did too in editing. CW says, "I'm not Not really local-ish, I'll pay for shipping if I need to, Palmer. I've reached out to him to send me his address and don't take care of the hat.
His address, I have his address. Oh, I didn't know. Yeah, I have his address. Alright.
Did he order the hat on the no Palmer, or the Palmer no shipping? He won a hat. Oh. No, but what I'm gonna do is, I'll build the link for the other hat and send it to him and then just put them both together.
I forgot he was the one getting the other hat. Yeah. I just, I'll make it tonight, after whatever. 15 games.
So, Phil, don't leave today. I gotta get you to sign his mask. Okay. Okay, if you want to hear your comment, settle out on the show, comment below on this episode and it may get settled out.
It doesn't have to be funny. It can just be a comment. Who do we prefer funny? I prefer you attacking these two that I'm with.
Oh, why? Because everyone's attacking you right now? You don't want that no more? Oh, I don't care.
That doesn't bother me at all. People can attack me all day. Okay. But it bothers you.
Uh. Yeah. Some of them. Yeah.
None of them. Okay. So. No comment from Palmer on that.
Okay. I don't care if they attack me. I mean, what difference does it make? If they enjoy it, let them go.
As long as they're having fun. Yeah. Right. Attack away.
I mean, for the most part, I don't really engage on the short comments because a lot of those are negative. Like, they have no idea anything about us or the show, but they chirp about something. Somebody said something on one of these shorts, and I didn't really understand what their problem was. Yeah, and that makes sense.
That's usually the way it goes. Like, what is he talking about? You know, I like to hear a lot of Greg jokes in the comments. Let's do that one.
Well, they say that they like him. We know what I'm talking about. No, don't say that no more. I want to hear, like, mean stuff about Greg.
Mean stuff about Triple G. Yeah, Triple G spot. Triple G spot. All right, everybody, are you with us?
He's doing his taxes. That was funny because it was just sort of out of the blue. I did a major change on the site, and I'm working on it, and we're at like this, yeah. Which site?
You had to be a little more specific. There's a lot of them. There's the wholesale, there's the CHPod. Well, to be honest, I'm usually dabbling on all of them at the same time.
Right now, it's the retail site, and I'm working on bringing everything together, I put everything together, so it's box, five-pack, single, instead of individual products, so it was merged, and it was a disaster, so it's up, but it's messy, so I'm trying to get it sorted, and, you know, this is my life, there's nothing new, so it is what it is, buddy. I hate that saying. That's what it is, buddy? It is what it is.
It's the worst saying on the planet, and for whatever reason, when Erik Vallada of Mirapfel came in, he said it, and now it's constantly, I constantly hear it, and it's driving me nuts. The new sales guy, that Erik? Is that Erik? National sales.
I didn't realize he was national sales. He's the top dog. Oh, he's a big, big, big deal. Sometimes I see him, and he just like backs out, and he comes back in, "Hey, how are you doing?
He's like a wandering magician. He likes the magician thing. I saw the magician at PCA, by the way. No, that guy is a weird magician.
I saw him at PCA. I saw him at PCA. He was arrogant. He's the one that acts like the bird's gonna come out of his jacket, and it doesn't.
And I was like, "Oh, it's in my pocket. " I like the fact that Phil hates the masks so much that it's not on, so he refuses to put himself on camera. Right, he would rather not be on camera than wear the mask. Yeah.
It's super edgy, you guys have no idea. It's actually, so this is working well. It's working out for us guys. Because we've done everything for him.
Right. We've given him the camera. We've set him up. We get him the new masks.
Keep it exciting. Right. And he just doesn't. I can't do this mask, fellas.
So we just won't set up the camera tomorrow. I was gonna say next week, but no, it's tomorrow. Leave it off. No, no, no.
How does it become about me? Let's move on. I've received a message from 13 Knives. Oh, I'm getting one.
Oh, I'm getting one. He thought 14 knives was very funny. He enjoyed the joke. Yeah.
And then he offered to make me one. I was like, no, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. It was just for the show.
I'm not mad. I mean, there's no reason to, but thank you very much for the offer. Why don't I get these messages? Because you didn't go to 15 knives and promote your knife.
We did. There was a whole spiel about all this. We did a whole joke. Palmer told me he bought his one, but he didn't really buy his or something.
We started making jokes back and forth. No, I got it from 14 knives. You know what, here's what's funny, it's like, look, that was very nice of him to reach out to you. Yeah, well, he thought it was funny, he thought the bit was funny.
Yeah, and look, like, he gets it, we're trying to help him. Yeah, right, yeah. Which is a dope knife. Well, our Bahama friend wants one, so I've connected them, he's gonna be making one for him.
There you go, perfect. He thought we sold them wholesale, he was like, what is the price for that? I will buy them. I'm like, sorry, this was a gift.
We're not doing that. Yeah, this was a gift, I'm sorry, we're not in the knife business. No. Right.
No. That's pretty funny. Yeah, it was. It was entertaining.
I hope he gets good business off. Yeah, yeah, me too. Yeah. They're great knives.
And nobody got squeezed. We didn't say, well, to promote it. Right. It's going to be blah, blah, blah.
He just did a good thing. Right. And then we did a good thing. Yep.
So. All right. California mayor resigns after being charged with acting as an illegal agent of China. Surprise, surprise.
What is going on? Eileen Wang, that's her real name, has agreed to plead guilty as she faces up to 10 years in prison, according to federal prosecutors. , allegedly spreading propaganda tied to the Chinese government. We're not effing leaving, we're not effing leaving.
You should buy Chinese products They're very good Think about how do these people get an office I don't get it There was definitely some hands greased Oh you think the get her elected mayor Yeah They're not saying what city Just a California mayor Not saying what city And not telling how many resignations there are Mrs. Wang I feel like I could run for mayor and get it Here? Probably not here Or wherever. Oh, somewhere else?
Maybe somewhere else. Like where I live. Yeah, you have to do where you live. Oh, over in Seminole County?
Oh, yeah. I feel like I could get it. Then you should. Who's your mayor now?
He would vote for you, and he doesn't even live in your county. I'm going to tell you. Like, I would do it, and then I would just see what I could get away with. I would just not wear pants, ever.
Oh, you're the pantsless mayor. Like a suit, I'd have the jacket, and then just like briefs. And you only have the one suit, so nobody would know. Yeah, it'd be the same thing.
Oh, now you don't need anything. Don't talk to him. Talk to him. Don't tell him I didn't have pants.
" Wait, briefs or boxer briefs? Like boxer briefs. Okay. Well, you just said briefs, so I thought it was a tighty-whighty game.
It's not tighty. I don't know what mine are called that I use. They're boxer briefs. Do you want to show us?
I mean, I don't know how you want us to help. I'm pretty sure I know what they are. They're boxer briefs. They're boxer briefs?
Are they thongs? Stop. Yes. Thongs, thongs, thongs, thongs, thongs, thongs.
Now available CH pod. Mikey's thongs. My face. Put my face on your wang.
After you wear them, put them in a Ziploc bag. We'll sell them that way. There you go. They are scented as Mikey.
Oh, my God. Mare, Mare, Mare, Mare, Mare Steponkiewicz. Oh, watch the news, try to say your name. Well, you have to say Mare Mikey Steponkiewicz, because there's another Steponkiewicz.
I don't think they're going to think it's the Triple G. He doesn't qualify. He'd be out of the country. Yeah, he'd be the illegal one.
He's going to Peru. He's in Antarctica. He's going to Antarctica. He probably is.
That's probably next. Yeah. Antarctica? He wants to go fight with the polar bears.
Oh, my God. Oh, that doesn't go well. Yeah, we've seen the video. That doesn't go well.
That doesn't work out in his favor, I don't know. They don't lock their doors there in case you have to run and hide. That's not in Antarctica. That's in Alaska.
No, in Antarctica they do, too. And there are people that live in Antarctica? Sure. There's the stations there.
Yeah. I can't think of what they are. I can't think of a word. Stations?
No, no. They're the... Go ahead. Eskimo stations.
Where they do all the tests and stuff. All the tests? All the tests. Santa Claus stations.
And the experiments and things. And the experiments? Yes. On like the aliens or what?
Okay. When you're talking, I will look up the number of people that live in Antarctica. No, I'll look it up. Don't worry.
Okay. You look it up. The NORAD 51. Yeah.
Let me ask, how many people live in Antarctica? Santa Claus. - There's actually people that live in Antarctica. - Is there?
- Sure there is. - There's people that live everywhere in the world. - How many? I want to hear the number.
- What do you think? - 1,000. - How many people do you think? - 10,000.
- You went the wrong way? - Yes! - Less than 1,000 people? - No, there's 1,300 people.
- Ah. - Dang. That's it. - 1,300 people.
- And they don't lock their doors? - They're frozen shot. - They're not. - Ask it if they lock their doors.
- Do people in Antarctica lock their doors? - They probably don't live in buildings. - Ask him if they're over a lady. - Do you want me to use ChatGPT for this?
Yes, I do. The Timu of AI. - Wow. - Hey, ChatGPT works well.
- Yeah, I like ChatGPT. - You just gotta train it. - In Antarctica, particularly in research stations like those-- - Research stations! - McMurdo or Ammonsden-Scott, doors are generally not locked.
This is largely due to safety concerns. Keeping doors unlocked allows quick access in case of emergencies, Polar bears. In small, close-knit communities where everyone knows each other, there's little concern about theft, making locked doors unnecessary. So now, here's what we need to do.
So I was right. You were kind of right. No, no. You said polar bears.
That has nothing to do with it. They said emergency situations. If a polar bear is chasing you, pretty much an emergency situation. It said more like severe weather conditions.
Well, that too. Yeah. What do we need to do? Listen, here's what I'm going to tell you.
First of all, I'm going to give you the W on this one. Okay. Because you're constantly attacked, right? You're constantly attacked.
I don't care. Everybody tells you you're wrong all the time, and you were right. Right. So there you go.
Okay. First and foremost. All right. Second thing, we can go into Antarctica, right?
And then become, like, friends with everybody and just take all of their stuff in, like, Grinch style, like, on one night. Where are we going to go with it? Just take it all. To Mikey's mayor house.
And then just go. Mikey's mayor of Antarctica. Yeah. Why did you do it?
Because the doors were unlocked, I mean, what did you want from me? It's not breaking and entering. I got this really nice clipboard, he got a camera, he got a big flashlight. Polar bear coat, it's still highly illegal to do that, by the way.
In Antarctica? Wear a polar bear coat? You live in this fantasy world that you can just walk in, if the door is unlocked, it's okay and it's not illegal, it's definitely still breaking the law. Well, tomato, tomato.
Okay, no, that's not how that works. Breaking and entering, not breaking and entering, no. No such law in Antarctica, there's only 1,300 people. Okay.
All right, so we're leaving China. We're done. We're done with the Chinese story. Oh, yeah.
It's week one. Here we go. Mayor Wang. Mayor Wang.
She's going to jail for maybe 10 years. Yeah, whatever. Which type of jail? Chinese jail.
Somehow we started in Cali and we wound up in Antarctica, but whatever. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how we do that.
Waymo is recalling its massive fleet of autonomous vehicles over a defect that may pose significant safety risk. All right, what do you think it is now that they can't do? So we've already had the problem where if the power goes out and the red lights don't work, they don't know what to do. Okay.
So what do you think the new problem is? They can't make U-turns. Phil? Over there knocking Flint and something together?
Yeah, I've got to have these two rocks. What was the original problems? If the power goes out in the city, they don't know what to do with the stoplight, so they just stop. Oh, yeah, these were the automated cars.
Yeah, Waymo. Maybe a child runs out in front of the car. No, I think it does a good job of that, I would assume. All right, due to a stalked word effect that could allow robo-taxis to drive into flooded roads, they don't know what to do when the road is flooded.
So they go faster. Yes. That's amazing. That's what I do when I see a puddle.
That is amazing. This is flooded, not just a puddle. Weird. So they go faster and then they crash.
They crash into the water? Well, they crash either into or out of the water, one or the other. Yeah, but where are these cars located? Wyoming?
They're some in Orlando. What type of flooding is there? When it rains here, what do you mean what type of flooding? Are you serious?
Is there flooding like that where you could crash into the water and die? Of course. Who said die? Well, it sounded like it.
They're recalling 3,791 vehicles. I'm very convincing. He said die. That's almost triple the population of Antarctica.
That's right. The recall follows incidents of vehicles entering or failing to stop for high-speed flooded areas. The action allows an incident in which a driverless vehicle failed to come to a complete stop after After encountering flooded road conditions on a high speed roadway. You should have gone with indecent.
What's the lawsuit look like on that? You know what I mean? I guess it depends on who they've hit. I'm sure there's a checkbox.
No, no, no, no. " If you die, if you unalive, there's nothing you can do. Yeah, there's no way, there's probably some lawsuits already, I would assume. Oh, I'm sure, somebody has.
Morgan, Morgan's all over that. I like, yeah, I like to see the... Waymo's, we call them death boxes. Call us now.
Call us now. Call us now. For the people. Not the robots.
You find yourself in a lake? With a Waymo? Has anybody looked at the stock on this company? Like, are they making money?
No. Has anybody been in one yet? No. No, I saw, I've seen them.
Yeah, I've seen them on the road. I've seen one. - I've not been in one. - They still have, did, did we ride in one in Vegas, last time I was in Vegas?
- No. - No. - Through the tunnel? - No.
- I thought we did. - The tunnel was closed. - The tunnel was closed. - Oh.
- 'Cause we really wanted to ride it, remember? - Yeah, I went down there. " And there was nobody there. - Oh.
- I probably could have just walked in there. No one would stop me. - Well, that's the tunnel where the cars all have to be going the same way, so like four of them go... and then they turn around, they all go...
'cause there's only one tunnel. - Right. We should go ride one in Orlando. They have a tunnel in Orlando?
No, no, no, the cars. The Waymo? Well, 3,791 have been recalled. There might not be any in Orlando.
That's a problem. You think this is something they would have checked for? You know, like the street lights or the stop lights. You know, look, I don't entirely agree with that statement.
Yeah, you got to work through the kinks, man. Yeah, the reality is that you're not going to catch all of it. And there's going to be things you don't see coming. You just got to pivot, adjust, and fix.
I guess. I'm so glad I have these headphones, though, because I just caught him with a little undertone statement. What did he say? I don't know, but it was funny at the time.
Oh. Yeah. I don't even remember what I said. Yeah.
I'm sure somebody will comment. Mm-hmm. Somebody will say something. At 24:59.
No, not quite. No, yeah. It was before that. Adjusted minutes, buddy.
But you know what? Oh, I guess we're going to add in to stuff you didn't understand. But Antarctica came up because you guys were talking about Greg's vacation, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, we're moving on? We're still moving on. All right, two South Florida police officers claim Ben Affleck and Matt Damon's recent action thriller, The Rip, has anybody seen it? Great movie.
I've heard it. I started watching it, I didn't like it. It was predictable. I've heard the controversy of this.
Well, you know why it's predictable? Because they use too many real-life details in the fictionalized narrative, causing harm to the officer's personal and professional reputations. The two officers that they followed around, getting information for the movie, are suing them because they used the information for the movie. It doesn't work that way.
Yeah, I don't know what kind of releases they signed, but apparently they used too close to real life. I mean, yeah, but if you looked, like, okay, it would have to be virtually identical. Yeah, I mean, you know, they have started a defamation lawsuit. Yeah, there's also legality things with police officers, there's like certain things you can't use.
The idea of the movie was that they were stealing money or something from drug dealers or something? No, no, there are corrupt cops, but the way that it, without ruining the movie, there's a way of looking at it where you don't know if this guy's a good cop or a bad cop, but if you've seen a few movies, you pick right up on all of them. Yeah, yeah, sure. Oh, is this the one with the Mexican cartel?
Yes. Oh, I've seen the movie. Yeah. It's a good movie.
Yeah. I sure didn't like it. I didn't like... Yeah, you're just grumpy though.
No, no, no. I'm not a big fan of Ben Affleck to start with. What? He makes great movies.
Name one. Yeah, name one. Batman. Yes.
That's a terrible version of Batman. Yeah, you know, I got caught like a deer in the headlights on that one for a second. How about Good Will Hunting? Yep.
Okay, you can't do the first one they ever made. How about The Accountant? Bourne series. Ben Affleck was not in the Bourne.
No, you said Matt Damon. No, I said Ben Affleck. I said Ben Affleck. Oh, Ben Affleck.
He makes all the great Dunkin Donuts commercials. I like Ben Affleck. I don't like Ben Affleck. He's a great actor.
What's the one, the Oceans, weren't they in the Oceans together? No, Ben Affleck was not in Oceans. Flash? He was in Flash?
Because he was Batman again. okay air he was great in air he played buck knight yep buck knight baby he's never watched it because it's a sports movie no no i didn't man damon did a better job of that movie what but ben affleck played buck knight great how about the guy that gave the amazing speech how about the last duel that was pretty good was that that looked terrible yeah that was a good movie townies oh you're talking about jamestown uh yeah that was oh With his brother. That was a great movie. Yeah.
What was the one where they were in Boston? The Town. It was called. The Town.
Yeah. It was Batman. Everything was Batman. Smoke and Aces.
I mean, this guy's been in a ton of movies. Yeah. That doesn't make him good. Daredevil.
He was great in Daredevil. Oh, that was a terrible movie. You're a terrible person. No, I'm not.
Pearl Harbor. Yes. That's why we have spam. The accent was terrible.
Jay and Silent Bob strike back. He was silent. He didn't have a line. Yes.
Boiler Room. I'm not familiar with that. Oh, my God. And his speech in that movie was great.
You never watched Boiler Room? I said, I'm not familiar with it. I haven't seen it. Money doesn't buy you happiness.
And he throws his keys of the Ferrari on the table. Ear to ear, baby. Yeah, he was in Pearl Harbor. Yeah, that's why we have spam.
Armageddon? Yes. Guys. Okay.
Everybody Cries. Come on. Is that the name of a movie, Everybody Cries? I don't want to miss a thing.
Yeah, when you watch it, you know that Bruce Willis is going to die, you cry. School Ties? That's an old movie. He was in Fields of Dreams.
Great movie. Was he the kid? He was the child. He must have been the kid.
In 1989. Yeah. It's definitely Kevin Costner. Listen, we can't even hear you.
No, that's Build It, They Will Come. That's the baseball movie. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, okay. Ray Liotta's dead father. See, the problem is Kevin Costner had like 12 different baseball movies, so it's hard to follow them all.
It was either baseball or golf. One or the other, he's always done. They're great movies, but they're all the same. They're all in the same movie with a different name.
Except Yellowstone, he fucked that up. " Well, it was the end of that. We're going to Texas. That's supposed to start next week.
Yeah. Okay. I'm getting tired of Marshall. I don't even watch it.
I don't know what article you're on, but we should just keep it moving. Memphis Grizzly Ford, Brandon Clark, has died. I can't believe you brought this up. My son was talking about this.
It was on the radio this morning. Yeah, but the way that you titled this in the beginning was bad. That gets people to listen. His agency and NBA said Tuesday he was 29.
Neither the Grizzlies nor the Clark's agency, Priority Sports, provided any details about his death. LAPD sources confirm ABC News that Clark was found dead from a possible drug overdose Monday in his home located in Los Angeles, San Francisco. Narcotics were found at the scene. Los Angeles, San Francisco?
Says Los Angeles, San Fernando. Sorry. San Fernando. Close enough.
Valley. Narcotics were found at the scene and there was no evidence of foul play. We just merged two cities. Well, they weren't sure where he was.
ABC News in Los Angeles first reported details surrounding Clark's death Tuesday. The Grizzlies said in a statement that they are heartbroken by the tragic loss of Clark. Brandon was an outstanding teammate and an even better person whose impact on the organization and the greater The Memphis community will not be forgotten. Yeah, man.
That's terrible, dude. Yeah. Twenty-nine? Holy moly.
He was a good role player. What'd you say? Drugs will do that to you. Well, allegedly, because you don't know for a fact what happened, what went down.
He was also arrested this past April 1st in Arkansas over speeding possession of a controlled substance. Which one? Yeah, that didn't indicate what the substance was. Reportedly, Kratom, an herbal supplement promoted as an alternative pain remedy That becomes illegal in Tennessee on July 1st.
He was released on bond a day later. - I don't understand the Kratom one, like... - It knocks you out. - It's like potpourri.
- Slows you down. Oh, what a shame, man. You know, like, every year... I just saw this awesome video with Michael Beasley.
I thought you guys said Ben Affleck. You know who Michael Beasley is? - Yeah, Mr. Homeless now.
- Mr. Homeless now, yeah. And he was, I think he was talking to Shannon Sharp, I think. Probably.
And it was about D. Rose and him. And he goes, look, man, 60 people make it into the NBA every year. Of that, 20 of them instantly get cut, right?
Right. So you're talking about a pool of about 40 people that made it into the NBA when this kid made it in. And to go through that, to work your ass off, to get to that level, and to have something like this so unfortunate happen to you, that's just a damn shame, man. Yeah, it's easy when you're being shoveled a lot of money, right?
You now have access. Well, because money, you know, money buys the drugs, and the people that you're probably partying with, because a lot of those guys party, because they're a professional sports player, they're just in that world. It's probably pretty easy to do, but they've got to stick the line. It just sucks to see someone so young with so much opportunity and them losing their life at such an early age.
Michael Beasley, the guy you were just talking about, he's super lucky that he hasn't died yet. Because that guy is an NBA champion, but he lives on the street. Yeah. You can tell that guy was...
He's not still an NBA champion, is he? No. Oh. You can tell he's the best.
No, he has a ring. Well, he may not have the ring anymore, he might have sold it for crack, 'cause that's, he was doing crack. The way you said it, it made it sound like he's still playing basketball, he just doesn't go home, he goes to the streets. Oh, no, no, no, no, he's… You start listening to his story, and you hear about all these people that take advantage of these players as they're coming up.
Yeah. And it's just terrible, man. I'm like, god damn. Yep.
Crow. Another basketball player died, I didn't pull the story, the… Yeah, Collins. Jason Collins. How did he die?
I don't think they really mention it because the headline with him is he was the first openly gay NBA player. Yeah, that was the headline. Well, I hope it wasn't suicide or something, man. He's young, so, I mean, it's, yeah, I don't know.
It didn't specify that. The pictures, he didn't look as young as the other guy. I think he was in his 30s or early 40s. Yeah, I was going to say, I thought it was his 30s or 40s.
That's still pretty, you know, that's all right, you know, that's me and Mikey's age. So that's old. S. Mail, but...
Yeah. Yeah. That's just terrible, dude. You better give me something light.
I need, give me something, you know, what's the next article? Cigar News! Oh, you may not like it. Here it comes.
Do you have a video? I do. Is it a light video? It can be.
We can talk about your video from yesterday. They've released more information about that guy. What video? Oh, the plane guy?
Yeah. Oh, there's a follow-up. It was suicide. No.
Yeah. Yeah. Like, you didn't know that. When you jump in front of a plane.
Yeah. When you jump in front of a plane. Suicide by plane. Yeah.
I didn't see this plane coming down. And it was a frontier. It was Colorado, but it was a frontier airline, not a Delta plane. Oh, they're about to go bankrupt.
He's frontier. He died of reoccurring head trauma. You think? Oh, God.
It's not whoosh, it's brrrrrrrr, I know it's much faster. So you're saying that his body was intact? Yeah, it sounds like it just whacked him in the head several thousand times. Wow.
Tuka tuka tuka tuka tuka tuka tuka tuka tuka tuka tuka. Suicide, huh? Yep. That's what they're saying.
No, no, unplanned. I sent you a video. Oh. We did, you know, if you watch our episode from that day, you'll see all the ways that we talk about a week ago.
Yeah, nobody commented on that. I thought there would be comments. I thought mine was definitely getting comments, but nope, it's not. Oh, I saw this.
Okay. Yeah, I'd like to talk about this. Let me see what it is. This is definitely Patreon content, however, we already recorded the Patreons.
Did you send it just a moment? I have a very important question for you. Tell me. So how do you like my new haircut?
I call it Reggaeton Fresh. You know, I'm glad you're asking about that. I happen to be very partial to it myself. Dare I say, it's attractive.
You dare. So, do you have a question for me, Matthew? In fact, I do. I was going to ask you, in this new chapter of your journey in the cigar business, what is the most exciting part of it?
Family. Family. Like you said, a couple of months ago, before the PCA show, when we were in the corner having lunch, and I said to you, what do you think of Jay's series before? And he said, I love what you're doing with your boy.
I love that piece of what you're doing with your family in this next chapter, and I've always said to you, when I see you with your son, that's that one feeling I get of what I want with my JD too, like the way you're always with him. I haven't seen this. Okay. Love you.
Give me your thoughts on that. All right. I'll start with you because I can feel Mike on the other side over here. In the beginning, it's kind of awkward seeing these two just like sitting there just kind of discussing, but it gets pretty deep.
You know, like now they're-- It does, huh? Yeah, like they're talking about-- I'm guessing he's referring to all the trips that Booth's going on with his family and stuff like that, right? I don't think so, but okay. They're talking about Sans' new cigars and stuff.
Yeah. Oh, I thought it said something about his boy. Yeah, he asked, or Booth said that he likes that he's doing something with his son. Right.
I think that's very exciting. Is the cigar with his son? Sans & Sons is the name of the- Hey, welcome to the Cigar Houses Podcast. I'm sorry, yeah.
We've been talking about this for about three months. Sans & Sons is his new cigar brand. Oh, so it was confirmed. We were talking about it.
He's got a- He's confirmed he's already put out cigars. Yeah, we have talked about this. I don't remember him having a new company. I remember we were talking about why is he doing this marketing stuff.
He's opening up a retail location, he's going direct to consumer, and he's going to make special products for people. His own brand. Yeah. His own brand.
Collabs and stuff. Sell other cigars, and you can rent the place out and have parties there. All right. I'm sorry.
Anyways. Yeah, it's like a Chuck E. Cheese. So you're excited.
Okay. No, I'm not excited. Yeah, no, it just looks like you're like, it was, it got deep. No, I mean, it looked like it was getting deep, but I mean, if we're, if that's what they're talking about, then, yeah, he's creating his own brain.
He's still doing it. That's what he's doing. He's marketing. Okay.
Palmer? There's several things. Okay. Yes.
Can they not make all, I'm trying to be nicer though, but this is. Look, just apologize now. Just say, listen. I apologize now.
I'm very sorry. We have an opinion about it. All right, we have an opinion. Can they not get everybody else in the room to be quiet while they make their videos?
Oh my God. 100%. Can they not get microphones? Off the jump.
Okay, yes. Correct, correct. Two. Okay.
I didn't understand that, or I didn't realize, I don't even know what to call him now. Mr. Sanz was built that way? He's got like a large head, tiny shoulders, and his arms and legs were skinny?
Is that because he's wearing a skinnier shirt? I guess because I've never seen him in shorts and a t-shirt. And he's wearing more flamboyant. Something baggier?
Yeah, that's what it was. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Not flamboyant? Yeah.
Well, yeah, flashier. Flashier. Flamboyant does not mean flashier. It could.
It doesn't have to be gay, if that's what you're saying. I didn't say that. Yeah, relax. I didn't say that.
Relax over there, homophob. I didn't say that. Jeez. Listen, I'm tired of this homophobia.
No kidding. And it's hard to tell if it was scripted or not. You saw him in a bathing suit and a white t-shirt. It was hard to tell?
It was hard to tell? Part of it has to be, but then some of it wasn't, and it's not like they're reading a teleprompter and they had cue cards. Okay. I mean, that's a lot of memory to-- Okay.
You think Matt Booth reads scripts? No, I thought more the other guy was the one that was, like a better word, a little dry. I like how you say the other guy. Okay.
The other guy. Mr. Sons. I don't know what to call him.
, Mr. Sons? This is Mr. Sons.
John Sons? This isn't Drew. I have no idea what his name is. You know what?
We're just going to dub him the new guy. Okay. The other guy. Okay.
Okay, why? I agree with a lot of things that you're saying. Okay. Anything else while we're, because Mikey's chomping at the bit to get his stuff off his chest?
No, no, please. Please, let's interact here. Because some of those things were 100% action. Those are the things that, what, no mics?
Yeah. Like, can I get a two shot out of this? You know, like something. Something, right.
No, we like this sound like we're in a soda cam. I don't know what's going on in the background, but like, yeah, somebody's negotiating something. Some lady is ordering her lunch or something. Yeah, I don't, I don't, yeah, and I'm like, okay, all right, and...
You can't go, I'm sorry, we're doing a video, can you please just keep it down for, give us five minutes? Yeah. Or clear the room? The haircut thing, super weird.
Yeah, I don't know what that was. So, it was like, it was set up so that there was two questions asked, right? Right. Mr.
" Right. Rigatone, whatever. Yeah, right. Okay.
And then, Matt had to ask this, like an in-depth question about this business. Right. Right? You took the most, you took the guy that was the most authentic, and would say whatever, how he felt, at any given moment, and you, and people gravitate towards that, because of it.
Because of its authenticity. Talking about Matt now? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, the poop guy. And you put him in a box with a friggin' question that he had to ask you that did not look genuine. No. Right.
And if you look at Matt, the poor guy, you could see he's like, he's not himself. No. He's not himself at all. I mean, Jonathan or the other guy, he does videos off the cuff all the time.
Right. They couldn't have just done that? That would have been perfect. That's what they had to do.
Could you show us an example, Palmer? No. Of what he does? No.
That would have been perfect. The video we mocked yesterday where I smoked two boxes of these already. It was three, by the way. Did you say three?
Yeah. I thought you did the voice. No, I'm not. I know that you're going for that, but I'm staying on track with this.
All right, go ahead. Like, yeah. I mean, one of the best things to do with Matt... Is to let him be Matt.
Is to let him be Matt. Right. Hey, bro, what's up? Just whatever.
You could have winged 45 seconds of nothing. Oh, he could have winged 45 minutes of nothing. And it would have been hilarious. Right.
And you could have dabbled in about, you could have did your little plug if you wanted to. You could have told him, here's what I want us to talk about. Right. Hey.
Now, go. All you gotta say is, hey, are you excited about me building this? And, boom, you would have heard it. Oh, I'm so excited, I can't stand up.
Right. You have no idea how extremely hard my nipples are at the fact. Right. You know what I mean?
Like, that's what-- That's what Matt does. And then it would have been like, oh my god, this is great. - Right, this is great. - But instead, you put it in a box, and now it has zero authenticity.
Like, you can't do that. - Nope. - You can't do that. - They put a saddle on Matt.
- I expect better from you, John. - They put a saddle on Matt Booth. - I expect better from you. Yeah, we don't, you don't saddle Matt.
- You don't saddle Matt Booth? - Yeah, you don't, no. - You let him be Booth. - You let Booth Booth.
- Right. - Love of God. So, yeah, I'm sure we'll get a message on that one. I'm sorry.
Who's him? Who do you think you're going to get a message from? D. lost my number probably 15 years ago.
But he might chime in on a short. Well, that's not his name anymore. Sometimes. Whoever you are.
Mr. Sun. Other guys. Look, all I'm saying.
Mr. Rigatone. That's his new name, Mr. Rigatone.
You know I like that one, reggaeton. Riggaeton hair. Even though it's reggaeton, but we'll go with reggaeton. You just gotta let 'em cook, bro.
Yeah, just let 'em do it. " What'd he say? He didn't respond. Oh.
Must have been at a meeting. He's probably busy, yeah. This might have been what he was doing when we were trying to do the little Debbie cakes. I called him yesterday.
He didn't answer. " It looks like this wasn't at PCA? I assume it was. Yeah.
No. You don't think that was? No. Where else are they going to find a stage?
Probably at Son & Sons at the store. Oh, it could have been. So he's just walking around with that gold thing in his car? Yes.
And I don't know how somebody doesn't... That was the big one. Like, hey, we're doing a recording. Yeah, shush.
This is a minute and 15 seconds. Right. You don't have to unpack now. Right.
Put the glassware back down. All right, like, just, can you just, for one. Where is Sons & Sons Event Center located? Miami?
Wynwood? In Wynwood? Really? Yeah.
Okay, so that was, that was. That was terrible. That was. I expect better.
Why does nobody have a microphone that likes to make videos? Why does nobody call these people out on this shit? That's what I don't understand. Everybody's like, oh, that's the best.
Oh, oh my God. No, it wasn't. It wasn't even close. Wait, wait, wait.
Who was that? What's that? That's the fanboys, oh this is hilarious, look at the two of them, like no it wasn't, he said rigatone, yeah, you know what the problem is about the microphone, is that everybody uses the same damn microphone, no nobody has one, no you can hear them, you can hear when people talk, you can, yeah there's an echo, yeah because they probably have one off the camera, yeah they use the one on the camera, they just use their phone, yeah, dude you can attach the mics to the phone, right, listen, Listen, look, he could have a guy with a camera following him around, he could probably do it for a box of cigars, you know what I mean, like there are people out here that will do that. If he's gonna do this kind of stuff, get the equipment there in your little entertainment area, just have it there, get a DJI Osmo Pocket 3, get two mics, and you're done, there you go, and you're ready, 600 bucks, don't tell everybody how to do their own podcast, I am gonna tell people, You want to know why?
Because we need more good content in this industry. We need to grow this industry. I agree. And we can't do it by ourselves.
We're doing five shows a week. Yeah, we're doing it kind of by ourselves. What can't we be doing? Seven days a week?
Right. We're technically six. Right. But I can critique and help people get better.
Two shows a day. We've got to start doing two shows a day. Yeah, please help us do less shows. We'll do a morning show and a night show.
Let me tell you something right now. Don't you tempt me. And we don't wear clothes. Because that's where you lost me.
Yeah, me too. Don't you tempt me. Because, you know, it wasn't that long ago where we said doing every day, every weekday. Yeah, but we know you're not coming in on the weekend.
Yeah, and you're not coming in here at night. I'll Zoom in. You got sports. I'm not coming here at night.
You know what? I wouldn't mind doing a Zoom one, like, off my patio. I'm on the field right now. Hold on a minute.
Run! Right. Let me see how you do it. Sorry, Preston.
All right, back to you guys. He was in! I need a spread tight 91. Larry, seven.
Larry, blue zone. Well, I want you to roll out left. We're looking at why on this one. We're looking at why.
That was actually a legit conversation, a legit play. So, yeah. Okay. All right, cigar news.
All right, let's go. Oh, here we go. Ahead of the 2026 World Cup, there's a new Plasencia cigar arriving in stores. So, we've got the top of the mountain, the bottom of the mountain.
The World Cup. What cup? The volcano. And now we have on the soccer field.
On the soccer field. It's a six and a quarter by 54 Toro Extra that uses a wrapper from Finca La Tradicion in the Jamestran Valley of Honduras and a binder from Finca San Augustin from Olancho, Honduras. Okay. That sounds like a lot.
It does a lot. The fillers come from Finca La Tradicion and Jalapa, Nicaragua. Lucencia says that a single pair of workers at its Tabaco de Oriente factory in Donnelly, Honduras rolled every cigar. Okay.
Just two peoples. Just two people. Two peoples, one pair. Well, hey, you know, if anything's screwed up, we know exactly who to go to.
It's true. Something wrong with the cigars? Not like we've got to guess who made it. Right?
Hey Frank, you're in trouble. Frank. Frank. Well, I didn't want to say that because you guys say I'm racist.
You are. Juan and Maria. Yeah, I didn't want to say anything like that. Rosalina, and what's the lady who's your salesperson?
She doesn't sound racist. She doesn't sound racist. She doesn't sound racist enough. Her name's Frenchette.
It's not Spanish at all. Well, that could be Spanish. No, it's not even close. All right, E-cigars and MSRP of special soccer-type cigars, gentlemen.
I think the last one was like $125 or something. The green one? This one's green also, but it's in a square place. I'm going to go with $125.
$45. 99, congratulations. - Boom. - They made 5,000 numbered boxes of 10 cigars.
- Really? - One guy and one girl. - 5,000 boxes? - You're assuming it's a girl.
- Usually it is. - Well, yes. But, you know, it could be a flamboyant man. - In this day and age, you never know.
Of course, just be a regular man that's very meticulous. - Be a regular man, that's true. - Yeah, that does a really good job. - Yeah, who am I to judge?
And who are you to judge? - Who is he to judge? - Nah, keep me out of this. - He's a judger.
- Keep me out of this. - He's very judgy, very judgy. The company says this is the first time it has released a cigar that has organic tobacco from Honduras and Nicaragua. In the middle of the earth.
Yes, this is the one from the soccer field. Okay. Crown Heads is entering the UK market. That was it, that was done.
Well, yeah, what else do you want to talk about? We're in front of the names, we guessed the price, we talked about the cigar, said what's in it. Yeah, what else do you want? Yeah, go ahead.
It was kind of like a bad preview. Like, you were really, like, up on it, and then all of a sudden it just ended. Okay. Well, it's a short story.
You want the quote from the guy? It makes no sense. We've never heard of him before. Yeah.
What do you want? Yeah. What do you want to say? I've taken the quotes out of most of the articles because they're usually just, "This is great.
" We have worked tirelessly on this blend. Yeah, it's the same stuff every time. After decades of effort, we have created... The soccer.
The football. The soccer. The football. The football.
The football. I do like the Oliva humidor. Soccer box? Yeah.
I'm sure you can get it on Scarpage for $4. Really? I don't want one. I just thought it was unique, something different.
I want Scarpage. The hell you are. And then our new executive manager, Mike the Mailman running the cameras moving forward. Hey, can you come in every day at noon?
That would be perfect. He's retired. He's retired. He's got a lot of free time.
You can ask one question. I'm kind of puzzled by Oliva coming out with a soccer ball because they have never had something like that before, right? For FIFA. Okay.
Right. But the Placencia, this is like kind of their thing every year. Okay, so what happens with most companies? Let's think about this.
But why didn't Placencia come out with something like that? Okay, so something is working for a company, so what do you do? Yeah, you buy it off of it. You try and make it better by putting it in the crazy wooden soccer ball.
Soccer ball. Yeah. It's kind of like the year of, right? Right?
The year of did well for one company, and then now we announce 75 year of's at the beginning of every year. Right? Right. I mean, we should make a year of GFY.
I think you guys are waiting for the bear. Year of the bear? No, I'm not waiting for any of it. I go to the beat of my own drum.
And that's for better or for worse, I guess. We come out with a bear every two years. Seems like there's about to be some type of commitment thing here, keep on going with those words. Till death do us part.
Oh God. Forsake all others. For better or worse. He said that already.
Richer or poor. Richer or poor. It's all right, we know you did in red light. Sickness and in health.
I can't do it anymore, it's broken. By the way, I can't find that one on Amazon anymore. What one? It's red light.
The red light that I have that I was going to do with a little thing. They have them at like Sam's and Costco now, you can buy the mask. My wife has the mask, but I need the top of my head, I would have to stretch it and put it on top of my head. You have to have the top of your head red-lighted?
Yeah, yeah, that's what we're going for. And also eating more eggs. Why don't you just wear some foil on it? Foil will reflect the red light, not let my brain absorb it.
Yeah. They red light on the view? The dome one, yeah, it sits on your head. Oh, is there one for that?
It's like a hat one, yeah. I'll have to look at it. I'll buy it when they have them at Tractor Supply with the red lights right in them. That's a heat lamp for the chickens, not the same thing.
Just think of it as a turbo version. They've changed the base of it now, so they're not the same anymore. Right. Now they actually have legs, not just a metal plate.
Makes sense. Yeah. S. K.
market. What'd I say? S. S.
market, too. This is why I said he's so believable. This isn't the first time. No, no, the headline was for a different story.
Oh. The second story that's gonna come after this one. I believe you. S.
market. The Nashville-based Cigar Company has announced that it has signed a deal with Barkers of Harrogat. Sounds like something from Harry Potter. That's what I thought, too, when I read it, it sounds like Harry Potter.
Harry Potter. K. Crown Heads has not shipped any products yet, but has not, and has not finalized when they expect their products to be on the shelves in British. So, have they?
Isn't there a generational age shut it down in UK now? Isn't there? Yes. So, why the hell are we even going to that market?
This just then, Crown Heads has exited. Crown Heads decided not to do business with Barkers of Harrogate. They were confused, thought they were renting the next Harry Potter movie. Hey, we're going to go into a space where you're not going to have anybody smoking in about 15 years.
Yeah. Well, they get 15 years, that's a good run. Yeah. John Huber, co-founder of Crown Heads, in a press release, being a family-owned business with over 30 years in the tobacco industry, Barker's was the perfect partner for Crown Heads as we share a common vision and appreciation for premium cigars and Harry Potter.
And Harry Potter. And what about Bond? Bond? James Bond.
Yeah, but this is Barkers of Hargit. That sounds like, you know, sounds like one of the little groups that they, you know. What are the things that we like out of the UK? " Oh.
Nice. Goodbye. They also distribute Gurkha, Kristoff, Macanudo, and others. Oh, it sounds like they got an upgrade by taking on Crownheads.
Yeah, I like the moving things up here. Yeah, they sound like some of my favorite cigars. Sauter a Tier, a new project by Lawrence and Melanie Davis, do you know these people? No.
I'm not familiar either, but I did see this, though, debuted at the PCA Trade Show inside Tatuaje's Booth Space, the concept focusing on cigar-specific clothing. In Tatuaje's space. Yes, you see that? As you walk down the aisle, they were on the right-hand side.
This is the jackets? Yeah, I wonder what that was, so when I saw the story, I thought we could talk about it. They're expensive. Were they expensive?
Are these smoking jackets? They are cigar-specific clothing, jackets and blazers designed with built-in pockets and compartments for cigars and accessories while maintaining a clean, stylish look. That's pretty cool. The goal is to offer functional, well-designed cigar apparel at a more accessible price point.
Oh, maybe I'm mixing things up. Compared to typical high-end cigar products, future products in development include travel cases, caps, scarves, cigar scarves. Yes, or you can put the cigar in the scarf. Keep your neck warm and boom.
Concealed. Tuxedo vest and other cigar-related lifestyle items. Initial feedback from the New Orleans show was very positive, encouraging further expansion of the brands. They don't mention the price in it.
But look, I mean, I could put a cigar right here in this pocket. Yeah, but the difference is your stuff's from Goodwill. This is not from Goodwill. Or TJ Maxx.
You and Chet used to go all the time. What difference does that make? I'm not out buying suits for this job with Chet. I know, I'm just saying, I just, I don't see why these people have these super expensive things.
He's salary. Well, it's not that, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get you one of these jackets. One of these jackets? Yeah.
I don't know, they seem like they need to be like burn proof or something so you don't burn it with your cigar or something. Don't not accept it, just get a 2XL. I don't want a 2XL, it'd be too big. Yeah, that's stupid, you're not getting one.
I have to have jackets altered anyway because I have bigger shoulders and a chest than I do arms. Oh, big shoulders. You know what? Unlike Jonathan Sun.
Right, who has no shoulders. Has no shoulders. And a large head. No offense.
He's got a big brain. Yeah, he could have a big brain. Well, he's on keto, man. Leave a guy alone.
Keto? How do you know he's on keto? I didn't know that. I'm just, whatever.
You said leave him alone. He's on keto. Yeah, move along. Time for the industry's favorite game.
Why would you say that? Because his body's smaller than his head. What's the score? My mask is off, I closed my eyes.
I can't notice it. Now we have to edit that out. Now we have to edit that out at 59. I think it was a lot better with me closing my eyes.
No, it wasn't. All right, one more time. You were stealing the Red Bull truck, though, but I put sunglasses on you. Nice.
One more time, let's go. Time for the industry's favorite game. What's the score? This mask is horrible.
Today's cigar, May 12, 2026. 1826, Patrick LaGrid, Dominican Republic, Fratello Reviews of Fratello, 1821, Dominican Republic. 86. Pick a number, it's not hard.
This mask is so ridiculous. Between one and a hundred. Amazing. We got a whole year's worth of them, buddy.
We gotta get bigger ones, it just doesn't work out. Maybe some of the other faces are bigger. Their faces are bigger. Yeah.
They're not all Princess Peach. Did you guys see the SNL version of the show? Of the show? No, that would be great if they did our show, but they have a Super Mario Brother one.
They just did it. Anyways, 85. I like the news part of Saturday Night Live where they write each other's stuff and they have to read it. Yeah, it's Michael Shea.
Yeah, Michael Shea. Chet and I did that twice, but he didn't quite grasp the concept. Oh, maybe you guys should do it. It'd be great.
you know um the best mario skit that i saw was this one kid he did this like it was in like a almost it looked like it was in like a police interrogation room and luigi comes in and he's like mario we gotta go and he's like no we don't he's like but the peach has been captured and he's like yeah she called me she called you like you gotta see this it's amazing he's like every time this bitch gets you know with the same thing over and over again and i gotta go save her ass From a turtle, you know, like, and, like, it takes an awesome turn. Yeah, yeah, like, Luigi's about to go off on Mario and unalive him, he's like, oh, it's like that, okay. Again with the unaliving. Yeah, this thing with, uh, with SNL, Mario and Peach are, like, married in an apartment in New York.
It's great. Oh, did he say a number? Did you ever say a number? Yeah, 85.
All right, Cigar Reviews, Vertello, 1821, Dominican Republic, Country of Origin, Dominican Republic, Factory, La Aurora Cigar Factory. Three. Wrapper, Dominican Republic, binder, Dominican Republic, filler, Dominican Republic, link, Dominican Republic, ring gauge, Dominican Republic. They smoked three.
So, no information. Got it. Well, I mean, I could tell you that it... Oop, where'd he go?
Oop. You didn't say the size. It is a Toro Gordo, 6x58. Ooh, 84.
21. 84. 85. Clue number one, unique and engaging flavor profile.
Notes like mint, creaminess, nuttiness, and cedar create a dynamic and interesting smoking experience. Eighty-six. Eighty-five. Clue number two, overall construction is solid on most samples, producing good smoke.
He told her to look it up and then text him to me. She doesn't care about any of this. Well, it doesn't mean she wouldn't do the favor for you. Producing good smoke output and generally even burn lines.
Stephen, where are you? The meeting's still going on. Yeah. They're fighting.
87. I need you to come up here right now. 87. I went first again, by the way.
That's for you. Almost done, honey. We're doing what's the score. I can't leave.
85. Consistency issues, especially with the second cigar, which had a tight draw, poor airflow, and repeated burn relight problems. Shit. Eighty-three.
Man, you jumped. Just yelled an obscenity from the audience. Jumped low there, huh? I listened to what he says and then I put my score.
You don't always listen to it. Absolutely. Not always. Eighty-one.
Final thought. Talk about a tale of two cigars. The first half of the Fratello 1821 Dominican Republic is very, very good. It's complex, balanced, lively, nuanced, and flat-out really enjoyable.
The second half, well, it's not. It's a sharp, peppery, charred and begging for something to counterbalance the profile, and that's before taking into account the combustion issue, while the first was very good with its construction, the other two weren't, with the second cigar one of the most uncooperative I have smoked in some time, I'd love to take the flavor profile on the first half and simply extend it, while figuring out what made the first cigar burn so well and replicate it, as the result would seemingly be a very enjoyable cigar. Since I can't, I'm left to offer an evaluation that comes with a lot of hesitation and reservation, smoke the first half, enjoy the heck out of it, then be ready to bail out the second half and the burn issues and the flavor turn, as you did on me. Bing!
As they did on me. Is this a cigar that's two different flavors? Is it another one of those from Phenelo? I don't think so.
It just changes in the middle and tastes terrible. Mm-hmm. Wow. 78.
Uh-oh. You really rubbed up. Mm. 76.
You went the wrong way. 82. I was on it. I win.
I'm just going to start putting one of those out. Wow, it's really picking up. Okay. We have pyrotechnics now.
Oh, wow, I won. We're at Pyrotechnics now. Oh, wow, I won. The only cigar podcast with Pyrotechnics.
No, you said it wrong. The number one show. I said we were the only cigar podcast. With Pyrotechnics.
Wow. Let's just talk about me winning again. Potato, potato. I said 82, and then I came down, unfortunately.
When did you say 82? 82? I don't know, I don't listen to you guys. No, I say 81.
I'm too busy trying to stay awake. I get so tired by that. Yeah, Mikey too. Oh, I was given a picture of you yesterday asleep during one of my story reads, during yesterday's show.
I shut head down. A picture? Yes. Not from me.
No, not from, I didn't say it was from you. Well, there's only three people in this room, I mean. Not yesterday. Oh, Chet?
Yes. Well, he's the only other one here. And he was right behind you. Thanks for not filming me.
Now, Chet's not allowed in here. Why is he up dancing around? Where are you going? We're still recording.
Dude. Give him a kiss. Give him a kiss. Yeah, right on the camera.
Pinch his nipples. He likes that. Yeah, he likes it. You have to do that to leave.
You have to do it to leave. The door won't unlock unless you pinch his nipples. Yeah, he's going to act crazy if you don't pinch his nipples. Okay, well, now Chet's not allowed in here anymore.
Thanks, guys. It's been in a space. All right, you're welcome. All right, mailman.
All right, there goes our live audience. He's got to go deliver the mail. The man's a legend. Mike, you look five pounds heavier on me.
Yeah, I know. Hey, your jewelry store is closing up there. I see. Yeah.
I know. Who else you know? Where else are we all going now? I think my wife's your niece at that store.
All right. Okay. Can we close this out or what? That's your job.
I was yelling at the audience. Like and subscribe if you're viewing or listening to this show. Thank you so much for listening to us and watching us and we hope that we provided great edutainment for you. Oh, bing bong.
Bing bong. Beep.
Show Notes
On today’s show California has ties to china? Waymo can’t Swim! The movie The Rip is way to true….Memphis Grizzlies bb. may have open tryouts! Then in Cigars we have World Cup cigars, English Cigars and special cigar clothing!! Then the show ends with a what’s The Score!