ACHP Episode 532

Transcript

Welcome to a Cigar Hustler Podcast Episode 532. I'm Mike Palmer, your host. Over in engineering today, we have Phil. I only get 20 minutes notice, McGuffey.

Hello. And then, as my go-host, Mikey, I forgot the shirt for a third time? I have the shirt. Hey!

I remembered the shirt, Stepankiewicz. It's upstairs. Okay, we don't need it for the show. Ugh.

I wanted to show it. I don't know what to tell you. Mikey, I need you to go upstairs, okay, and go into my, go bring my backpack. Do you know where my backpack is?

Yes. Do you know which one is his? It's right, it's right by my computer, it's a, it says "Weasel Team 6" on it. Do you want me to bring that back down for me?

All right. Thanks, buddy. Nice job. That is our intern, Mikey.

Yes. Our intern. Our intern? Yep.

He's working for his college credits. On today's show, government UFO website goes viral. Coffee isn't safe anywhere anymore. What?

Look, I'm drinking my coffee. I don't care if it's got the Hanta in it. It's not safe. It's got Hantavirus in it.

You got Hantavirus in it? I don't care. You're fine? I don't care.

All right. An airline merger the government did approve. Okay. Uh, a Phil and Palmer money-making scheme.

Yes! In Kansas, the system... I'm sorry. " Uh-oh.

A new cigar for San Parai, you know, it's the purple one. Hmm. And what's the score before we get out of here? But first, Mikey, how do you get some of that CHPod swag everybody's wanting?

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My mother always told me I'd go blind if I was a master blender. Yeah? Yes. I'm saying.

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com, A Cigar Hustlers Podcast. Yes. If you pay for the entire year in advance, you're going to get 10% off. Skip called in, or we called Skip last episode.

Yes. And he started to talk a little bit about some of our Patreon information. He was so, can I think of the right word, but he talked about it in a way where they, no one, you wouldn't know what we were talking about. Right.

Took me a minute to figure it out, and I did the show. Oh, okay. Make sure you like and subscribe wherever you're viewing or listening to this show. Yes.

And some comments. Yes. Why is he talking over there? I don't know, but at least we can hear him now.

Yeah. That's just why he's doing it. A couple comments from our previous show. Oh, here's the problem with the intern.

Somebody's gonna let him back in. Phil, let him in. Phil, let him in. All right, hold on.

I gotta take my mask off. You don't have to take your mask off. You can keep your mask on. Put your mask on.

He knows who you are. Yeah. I won't be scared when he walks in. Okay.

From episode, from yesterday's episode, or Friday's episode. Oh, who's having a problem now? NFPA 1910, National Fire Protection Association of States. Right here, Mikey.

Right here. Thanks, buddy. Yep. Perfect.

Thanks, bro. Sorry to interrupt you. No, you're good. No, no, you're fine.

You did a great job. Put your face on camera. You'd have been great. NFPA 1910, National Fire Protection Association states 15 years for primary use and 25 years is end of life from your resident firefighter.

@DavidHoffman4727. What's that about? We talked about the fire truck that got stolen and I said how old it was. Oh.

It didn't make sense. Okay. Gotcha. But you were right because it's not primary use, it's sitting at the airport.

Right. So it's still usable, it's not considered end of life. Can you go back and say that one point again? You were right.

Thank you. Dude, you can go back two episodes. No, no, I know you did. I just want everybody else to hear.

I have no issues. No, but, you know, are you, but if we're, if you want a way out. Oh, here we go. If you want a way out.

We're going recent. If you want a way out right or just convincing. No, no. If it's not one, it's the other.

You far surpass on the convincing thing. Oh, certainly, yes. And just being right, 'cause you're not... If everybody would just let my convincing ones go, I'd really appreciate that.

Yeah, well, the problem is that you're right one out of 10. I'm convincing 10 out of 10. Is that from the Baywatch guy, Hoffman? No, that's Hasselhoff.

That's Hasselhoff. But we'll just go with, "Yes, it was. " Princess Peach is very special. " Yes, me and the Wright brothers grew up together.

They did not have planes before. Right. Yeah? Yeah.

There's another one about firetrucks. No, no. They used to ride pterodactyls. It's like the Flintstones.

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. They put the, yeah, the stone, uh, cylinder on the back of the pterodactyl.

Right. Right. Flintstones. Meet the Flintstones.

@CW6383 says, "Also Skip was on fire and laying down some great knowledge. " He was. I enjoyed having him on What's the Score. No, yeah, it was perfect.

It was... Did he win? Here's what it was. No, they split.

Uh, no, he He won. Oh, 'cause he nailed it. I won the first one, then he nailed the second one. I forget you guys have that weird rule.

Here's the deal with Skip. You need just the right amount of Skip. You know what I mean? Right.

You need a good, healthy dose. He started to get a little long-winded, but then he wrapped himself up. And then we closed it out. Right, because I lit a cigar thinking it was gonna go on longer.

Right. And then... " All right, I gotta go. So the best way to get Skip is actually probably the time that we record.

Right. He's probably just getting up and getting going, and he's got like 700 things in front of him, so we can get some intel. And he doesn't want to do any of them yet. What's that?

He doesn't want to do any of them yet. He's not at that point. He's just going through whatever, all he has to do. Yeah, he can't sit down with like a Flor de Konya and a soda and then kind of go on, you know.

He's got, he can give you some good data, and then he's got to keep it moving, and then people want more, you know what I mean? So, CW6383 also said, believe it or not, we've had more than one ambulance stolen from our hospital. One lady took one to the Wawa because they wouldn't give her hot water for her tea, so she went and got her own. I've got to be honest, kudos to this woman.

You want to know how much that hospital stay cost? And they couldn't give her hot water? You couldn't give her hot water? Maybe it just wasn't fast enough.

- Then they should be faster. - I just wanna hit the lights. - I like to argue the other aspect of these things. - Okay, nothing?

- Yeah, don't worry, he was racist, yes. - That wasn't racist, I was just saying I wanna hit the emergency lights. - I can argue either aspect of things. When it gets out of hand on the other side, like when a hospital is doing absolutely everything, and they're paying, and the invoicing is appropriate and all of these things, I'd be happy to say all that.

However, I would argue on the other side, especially in the emergency room, that things are always lacking, right? I mean, even what's even funnier, too, is the show The Pit. Like, have you watched The Pit? I have before, but not in a long time, because I don't have HBO anymore.

Ah. Well, season two, I mean, they always just show this loaded lobby. Right, yeah, that's always full of people. And they had a guy die in the lobby, and they quietly got him out.

Oh, pick him up like he was asleep? Yeah, exactly. Sir, we're gonna, yeah. Sir, we're gonna take you in the back now, sir.

Please wake up. So, yeah. I think he's dead? Exactly.

I think he's dead. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. He's just what we call dead-ish.

Dead-ish. It's a medical term. You don't understand. Correct.

He's very tired. " Yeah, I mean, I gotta figure that out. I gotta look into that. What the jacket was for Tatuaje, or in that Tatuaje booth?

Oh, the Soltaires or whatever it was? Yeah. Yeah, there was no pricing. It was kind of odd.

I mean, they give pricing for cigars. For you today only. We give you good price. Great price.

Great price. It's a little snug. It's fine. Cigar people are very robust.

And finally from MichaelZCigarGuy55, if there was only a way for Phil to stay up to date on cigar news, hmm, maybe you guys can cover that during your show. You know what, you're right, we're gonna start covering cigar news. I'll start looking up cigar news to put on the show, that'd be great. Yeah, really kind of mix it up for Phil.

Why do I need to be up to date on cigar news? Because we were talking about a topic that we've been covering for months, About Jonathan Saan and Drew Estate and all this thing. And you chimed in like you had absolutely no idea what we were talking about. - Listen.

- Who Jonathan Saans was. - This is the character, okay? I do this for all you guys. This is it.

- If it only was the character. - Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. If it was only, if what you were saying was only true. - Are you smoking a purple?

What is it? - No, I'm so purple. No, I don't have the purple. Mike Saldana, I'm smoking the red.

Mike Saldana, There you go. Mike Saldana, It looked purple like the way he was moving. Mike Saldana, I was like, what is that? Mike Saldana, I'm on a Sumatra kick right now because it's here, right?

Mike Saldana, Well, we all have been to be honest. Mike Saldana, Yeah, and we're very excited that it's here. Mike Saldana, I'm super excited about the Churchill. Mike Saldana, You know, I was super excited about the Churchill too.

Mike Saldana, And then I started smoking this Gran Toro. Mike Saldana, See, it's better. Mike Saldana, And I definitely like the Gran Toro better. Mike Saldana, Yes.

I mean, I'm excited about the Grand Tour, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's great. It's amazing. I can't wait for you to buy it.

Well, somebody said they were going to let me try the other day, and I just completely left. That was the other day. You left early. It's a terrible thing.

Yeah, you completely left. Why'd you leave? No, I was here. You left.

I left. He didn't leave. I was upstairs. Okay, I'll give you one later.

I even hung out with Alfredo. I'll give you one later. Oh, is that who brought the M&M's? Yeah.

Yeah. I assumed. I was there. And he got an order.

I texted him the next day. I saw the M&M's there. I was like, - You're a sweet, sweet man. - Oh, you didn't see him either.

- No. - Oh, what time did he come in? - I have no idea. - It was like five.

- Yeah. - And I busted his balls for you guys. " - So was anybody up there, or did he like talk to Keanu? - No, it was Greg, yeah, Greg, Greg was here.

- Gotcha. - If he came in on Wednesday, I think Wednesday is the worst day for me right now. - You show up early, early Wednesdays. - Sometimes.

I like to try and get here as early as I can. You know, as soon as I can get here, I can get here. Well, don't come before 8, because you don't have an alarm code, and you don't have a key. I would just come downstairs.

Yeah. Okay. I'm just letting you know. He's got a fingerprint.

You can't get in upstairs. Sorry, you hang out in my office. Yeah, I go hang out. He's not here at 8 o'clock.

Yeah, that's true. He's not even up yet. I got ESPN and everything now, man, it'd be great. We got it all here.

Xbox. Private Lounge has all that covered, but I'm not screwing around with any of that stuff. Well, you don't have an Xbox. I'm working on web development, I'm working on wholesale stuff, I'm working, you know, there's a million things for me to do.

Well, maybe you could take your nap in the morning. He hasn't been up long enough, he's not tired yet. Oh. Yeah.

Yeah. Needs a couple hours to exhaust himself. Exactly. I didn't know if it was just like a list thing, like you just got to get it out of the way.

If I can give it, if I can give myself like a solid five minutes to recharge. If I can get my nap out, you know, get out of bed 15 minutes later and take my nap, then it's off the list for the day. Perfect. Yeah, I got that done.

Check, there's the nap. Dude, there's a lot of, you know, without saying anything specifically, and without plugging anything, there's a lot of stuff going on on both sites right now, wholesale and retail, and I'm working on utilizing and developing things, and it's moving along at a rapid pace, but it's still time-consuming. So, when you do the tedious work over and over again, for one, it sucks the life out of you. It really does.

It's like, oh, God. But I had a good conversation with my boy Mitch, Mitch Smith. He's like, you really should do this. And I'm like, really?

And he goes, yeah. And then I said, okay, so like this? And I built part of it? He goes, yeah, that's clean and that makes sense.

And I'm like, damn, he's right. It is a lot cleaner. Mitch, Mitch, Mitch. Wish I knew that 17 years ago.

Well, you could have asked him. Yeah, so. He was probably 17. So we're doing that on top of other things, so.

If you want to hear your comment, settle out on the show, comment below and we may comment it out. Ooh, I might have a cheaper computer guy for you. A cheaper computer guy? Apparently there's a fifth grader at my wife's school who is a genius and keeps getting in trouble going into different things he shouldn't be going into at school.

I like my guy. All right. I'm not taking my guy away. The only reason why I would replace my guy is if my guy screwed something up so bad or was no longer available.

You know what I mean? Hello, no, no, Dicky needs to call us no more. Right. He tolerates a lot of abuse for me, so.

You haven't been putting up the fingers. I have no idea what time we're at. What fingers? Every seven minutes, you're supposed to put up another finger.

Every seven minutes? Is that what you said? There's something with sevens. No, no.

I told Mikey over there that he had to hold up his fingers. Every time he gets to ten, he has to reset. Oh. I thought you meant that one.

We're at 14 minutes. No, no, you're fine. We're moving right along. I know, we haven't started the news yet.

I don't want to run too long. You know, that was pretty good. Isn't that frustrating? What?

When you're talking and then he just kind of goes over you? I saw it on your face. Oh, no, I didn't even know what he said. Ah, yeah, I could see it.

I saw it. Did you see how easy the show went yesterday when Phil was not here? We didn't over talk. It was nice and smooth.

Uh huh. It's weird. But you missed him. You even said that you missed him on the show.

That's kinda afraid he's gonna watch. He didn't have your... Wow. And he didn't say anything.

Nobody said anything stupid. There's no way there to back you. That's what you missed. Oh, is that what it was?

Yeah. Oh. All right. Are we ready to start the news?

No, we're not. I guess I'm not backing you anymore. That puts you on your own, which is a scary thing for you, so... Is the time on the computer screen over there?

Yeah. Yeah, it looks exactly like yours. No wonder he knew you guys were at 14 minutes. I just can't see it from here.

It's too small. Like it was some type of superpower, I thought. It is. He's Batman.

No, he's not. What? I'm not? He's Batman.

Yeah, but Batman's not a superhero. Batman just has a utility belt. So Iron Man's not a superhero? No.

No, he just has a suit. Yeah. I don't know the words. You have to have a power?

Yeah. We did a whole episode on this one time. Don't you remember? No, no.

Yeah, it was Superman vs. Batman, yeah, it came out. The movie? Yeah.

Batman vs. Superman? They stopped fighting because their mothers have the same first name? That one?

Is that true? I don't even know what he's talking about. There's no way we did that show. He might mean me, him, and Chet, maybe.

Yeah. Oh, maybe, yeah, I don't know. We wouldn't do that here. Why would we talk about that here?

I've done so many shows. Because you like Batman and Superman. I do, but you like Superman. I wouldn't, I don't look for filler air of nothing, I look for good conversation.

We, we've talked about, okay, anyways, let's just go. On to the next one. All right, on with the news. The government has released the UFO stuff, you guys hear about that?

Yes. All right, the Pentagon UFO website shattered records with 340 million hits in the first 12 hours. Wow. The Pentagon launched a massive digital archive of unidentified phenomenon records fulfilling a transparency pledge from President Donald Trump.

The release features hundreds of documents and dozens of videos including an Apollo 11 transcripts, reports of objects performing impossible aerial maneuvers. While the site garnered 340 million hits in 12 hours, officials state that the data remains unresolved and does not confirm extraterrestrial life. life after all that yeah after 340 million people have gone on to look at these photos and videos and transcripts and audio recordings doesn't prove a thing they say wow whoa and these are all i'm sorry these are all things that have been hidden from us for decades how obnoxious is this no shit it could just be chat gbt or cloud or something what do you mean like the videos the videos or chat gpt they didn't have chat oh he means they made them now too yeah and supposedly they're they're releasing more they're doing it like epstein files they're doing it in vault things oh so they'll just stop halfway it's like because there's too many to release them all at one time it's like seasons yeah exactly this is the old stuff this is season one eventually we'll get up to the current day stuff yeah okay so this happened yesterday so maybe season two there's something well there was stuff in season one some of the photos of things i've seen yeah i like do you Don't you believe that there's aliens? Yeah.

I mean, you'd be silly not to. We can't be the only thing alive. Yeah. I do, but...

Yeah, I believe. I mean, I don't think lizard people are running around, you know, with a secret face on and eating children or something. Yeah, I'm not going down, I'm not, yeah. Yeah, no.

No. I mean, I'm sure they fly by and they go, hmm, let's not land there, they look weird. You think that's what they do? Or they pick one up and go, hmm, we can't eat these.

They're dirty. They're dirty? They have the Hantavirus? They have all sorts of viruses down there where you can't survive on.

The Apollo 11 thing, he starts describing something he's seeing out of the window. It's like another spaceship fly by. Really? Yeah.

He just describes it? Well, the Apollo 11, they didn't have cameras back then, and the window, I think, was like this big. They didn't have cameras back then? Not ones aimed outside.

Yeah, so it's like he couldn't use his-- I mean, because they faked it anyway, so it doesn't matter. You couldn't-- that's not true. So, they couldn't use his iPhone, is what you're saying? Yeah, yeah, he didn't have an iPhone.

Because the iPhone technology is way more advanced than it was on that rocket set. Yeah, that's what they say, yeah. They say the iPhone could have gone to the moon by itself. I like how that one astronaut recently used his iPhone for video.

Did you see that? Oh, yeah. That was pretty stellar. Did you guys do a follow-up on the Trump phones?

No. No, there wasn't another story. They're coming out. Again?

Well, they've been saying that for a year and a half. No, they said August 15th, though. August 15th was the first date. It's a first date.

Oh, well, that's something I saw today on Facebook. Maybe when we talk about things, maybe that's why my Facebook brings all that crap up. Maybe. It does.

I mean, it certainly does. I mean, here's a thought. Maybe you shouldn't believe every single piece of information that you get on Facebook. No, I was just saying.

I just came across. It was on Channel 2 news page. Facebook is always fake, almost. By the way, allegedly.

7 million views. Oh, and their gravity? As to how dumb we are with gravity, yeah. Can't they just move on to something else, make something else famous?

7 million views. We should get a plaque or something from Instagram, something? Isn't that wild? It is.

I mean, I would, 20 bucks, I mean, something. Or a view of a show go up or something. I mean, we've outraged so many people with this. Right.

I'm always looking for that next story, too. Yeah, I know. This just naturally happens. So, okay, so inconclusive evidence about aliens.

Right, they're saying the evidence that they've given us means nothing, there's no aliens. Stay tuned for season two. To see if that evidence shows that there's aliens. You think that there were, there's no way, like, they had to have had an alien body at some point.

Well, supposedly at Area 51, that's where that spaceship crashed. Right. That's the story, at least. That's the story.

And now the story has gone further, and supposedly they gave Elon Musk access to all that stuff, and that's how he built his space program. Oh. That makes sense. It would make sense, then.

It's a perfectly good, you know, something that could have happened. I don't believe that for a second. I don't either. You know, Wemby is called Alien.

He has a tattoo of it. Is he? He kind of looks like one. Yeah.

Like one of the Monstars from Space Jam. He does kind of look like one of the monsters. Wendy's where you get the Frosty? Yeah, that's it.

He's an alien? Yeah. It's weird. The little red-headed girl?

No, Wembe Nyama. Bless you. Did you sneeze? Nope.

Yeah. He's like the best player. I couldn't even say what sport he is. You can see him tonight.

What, is he coming to the shop? No, he plays tonight. Hopefully, the Ant-Man will go three and three. Oh, I like the Ant-Man.

You like the Ant-Man? That actor that plays him? I like him. You know what's funny is...

He's just a little white guy. Yeah, definitely not. You know, what's funny is, my one son loves Ant-Man, and then my other son, who casually watches basketball, likes Wemby. So I went to go get him like a Wemby card, like an autoed one.

Super expensive. And then I realized that I did not need to get him a Wemby card. How much is an autographed Wemby card? It was too much money.

Yeah, they're a lot. Is it three figures? Yeah, it was too much money. It's so funny because I actually have some friends that do this for a living.

There's a, my buddy does, runs one called Card Rush, and they're like, him and his other friend, like, hey, so what kind of, you know, what are your boys like? And I said, well, one likes Ant-Man, and a buddy, another buddy of mine, not the Card Rush guy, but another buddy said, okay, no problem, I can get the Ant-Man, he goes, what is the other guy like? I said, Wemby, he's like, pick another player, pick another player. Man, the Ant-Man is quite affordable.

Anybody else, anybody else that he likes? Anybody else. Does he like hitting baseball guys? Yeah, so I was like, and what's funny is like, I don't know what I'm asking, you know?

Right, you didn't know it was expensive. Yeah, they asked a question, and I'm like, I don't know. This is who he likes. This is what he says.

Yeah. So. So how long now, Phil, you think until he's in the card trading business, our friend here? Let's go four months.

Four months. It's never gonna happen. You said that about coaching basketball. That's different.

Why? No, because... Might be something else you get into because you think you can make some money out of it. I don't, I didn't think I could make money in coaching.

Oh God, now we're gonna have to do cards. Oh, yeah. I didn't, I don't think... I know, coaching doesn't pay you, I understand that.

Yeah, I just like... But like, you know, there's a lot of things that we do and we try, thinking it's going to be a money-making thing that doesn't actually happen sometimes. I can't give you an example, don't ask. Yeah, like what?

Not taking advertising? But this show makes money. Maybe more soon. Yeah, maybe more soon.

Oh, that's one of the news articles. No, no, no, that's the one. But I coach because I like to be a positive influence on these kids. Right, I know.

I understand why you coach. Yeah. There's no money in it, I know. It's actually the opposite.

Yes, I know, because you buy things. It's probably the most expensive hobby that I've ever come across. Right, that is music. Yeah, this hobby's pretty expensive.

Well, this one's finally self-sustaining. Oh. Yeah, until some new technology comes out. No, the difference is that like, and you know what, I skipped like our practice squad shirts this year, this season.

Uh-oh, they're mad. Complaints. Parental complaints. Not parental complaints, but kid complaints.

The kid, you know, I really want, you know, I'm like, oh God. Where's my practice jersey, Coach? I was like, man, you know, it's just... Coach, are we not getting practice jerseys this year?

Like, what's happening? I'm sorry, dum-dum prices have gone up. Coach cannot afford practice jerseys and dum-dums. And Dumb Dumbs, which one do you want?

I've ran out of Dumb Dumbs too, I better square that up before... Ah, jeez. There's high expectations. Every time I see them at Publix, buy one, get one free, I feel like buying a couple of bags for you, but then I've talked myself about it.

Oh, that'd be great. Okay, so anyways, Aliens, next. A Winter Garden man secretly recorded women in another coffee shop restaurant. Of course he did.

But this is Winter Garden, not Winter Park. This is a lower quality camera system. So this is a thing. This is a thing now in Central Florida and a city that starts with winter.

A 19-year-old man was arrested after he secretly recorded women using the restroom at a coffee shop and he had been doing so for weeks, Winter Garden police said. On Tuesday, officers arrived at the Axum Coffee on West Plant Street. Somebody better ask him. After a woman alerted staff that a man was in the woman's restroom with his pants down.

Mmm. Upon arrival, police found Brian Perez inside the upstairs women's restroom. Ooh, very bougie coffee shop with an upstairs. Yeah, a two-story one.

According to arrest affidavit, officers reviewed Mr. Perez's phone with his consent. Oh, what'd he do that for? He's 19 years old and he's scared.

Oh. Found multiple videos of women using the restroom. The recording appeared to have been made with his phone dropped on the floor and alleged angled toward the neighboring stall. Oops!

My bad. My bad. Let me get this. Sorry.

The earliest video was dated April 3rd. Well, at least he hasn't been at it too long. So he wasn't even slick about it. Apparently not.

The building's owner told officers he had previously caught Perez in the men's handicap restroom near holes in the wall that overlooked the women's restroom. Okay. You'd think he would have fixed that. Yeah, a hole in the wall.

Holes. There's more than one. Wow. That overlooked the women.

So maybe the upstairs bathroom, there was a hole. You could see the downstairs bathroom. Wait a second. You're telling me this 19-year-old kid is the only one in trouble?

Not the owner of the shop. Right. I didn't get to fixing the holes yet. I was trying to.

Hey, don't pay attention to those glory holes over there. That have nothing to do with the situation. The owner said he warned Perez to leave the property on multiple occasions, but he kept returning. How do you not violate that guy for trespassing?

Well, that's one of the things they charged him with, was trespassing. Yeah, at that point. Oh, now I can charge him. After a month of obtaining...

Multiple occasions. Look, dude, I've told you seven times. Yeah. Don't record the women through the holes in a wall.

Like, what are we doing? Why didn't he fix them? Yeah, no kidding. Here, I'll fix this.

I'll just patch the holes. Somebody had to teach this 19-year-old kid. I mean, he's 19. Like, call his parents.

Right. Like, what are we doing? He is an adult. Yeah, okay, by the term, yeah, he's an adult, but he's still young.

Yeah. I mean, you know, I look at a 19-year-old and I'm like, you're every bit of a kid. Now, look, I'm not saying that he shouldn't be punished, you know, whatever. Right, as an adult.

Yeah, punish him as an adult, that's fine, but like, I still look... If my kid's 19 years old and he's doing something stupid, I put that on me, I'm like, okay, I gotta take care of this. Let's say he doesn't live at home anymore, though, he's moved out. I still put it on me.

When do I no longer put it on me, is the real question. Okay, when do you really don't put it on you? That's a great question, Mike. At what age?

Maybe like 24 or 25. That's the magic number. I say at that point it's like okay dude at this you you I've given I've done everything I can right I've tried every aspect to make sure that you're contributing a positive contributing factor to this society right like this is on you like there's you know I'm not bailing you out of jail no you're sit you're doing it right you've been told not to videotape the women in the bathroom correct you've been over this dozens of times yeah you've been trespassed you no longer allowed it Yeah, at 19 I'm still trying to give him the help that he needs, you know what I mean, whatever that looks like, whether it's, you know, mandatory therapy, I don't know, something, you know. Maybe do like on the motorcycle show, you just cut his hands off.

No, I'm not cutting my kids hands off. Then he can't, you know, do stuff anymore. No, that's counterproductive. Okay, let's break this story down real quick.

Okay. First of all, they caught this kid in the bathroom with his pants down. That's hilarious. Like, you walk in on this kid doing some?

Well, he'd gone into, okay, well, there's two different stories right here. So, he got caught by a woman in the ladies' bathroom in the other stall with no pants on, videotaping. Yeah, at that point, I trespassed this kid. I pull him aside and...

But he's already been trespassed by the owner for looking through the holes from the men's bathroom. He's upgraded. This was the time that he got trespassed? No, no, he got trespassed for going in the men's restroom looking through the holes.

That's not what you stated in the show, in the article. You stated that he has done these things, but he wasn't trespassed at that time. The owner said he had warned Perez to leave the property on multiple occasions, but he kept returning. Right.

Okay, well the police now have charged him with trespassing. Correct. After five, ten times, however many times he's done this. Multiple attempts.

If they're charging him with it, doesn't mean the guy had to tell him he's not allowed there? At that point, he's trespassing him. Like, why didn't you trespass him off the jump? Yeah, because it only takes one time.

Yeah, whether you find him peeking through glory holes or whatever the first one was. I'm like, okay, dude, you're done. Right. Like, we're done here.

Right. You know? Okay, so the guy just said, look, you got to leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But didn't call the police. Correct. Ah, okay, all right, I'm following. Right.

All right. How busy is this coffee shop? Apparently, it's very, very busy. Good, very good Wi-Fi.

Right, yeah. So he's been charged with one felony count of video voyeurism, and one misdemeanor count of trespassing after a warning. Hmm. Okay, so-- So is there levels of trespassing, I'm guessing?

So he got a warning from-- Yes, yes there is. " They should have just docked him. Gotcha. Boom.

So they could have just trespassed him that first time. Yeah, next time you come back, you're going to jail. Ah, correct. Over.

Are we still, is there more to this story? Uh, not at the moment. That is where the story ends. He's been arrested and this is what he's been charged with.

I'm just still just baffled about these holes in the wall. Yeah, I mean it's in Winter Garden if you want to go over there. You know what, since you want to do a skit in jail, maybe we go in as a video and we go in as like a drywall repair. Wait, is this a, Palmer wants to do a skit?

We talked about that yesterday. Yeah, there was somebody we were going to go see in jail. I forget who it was. You know, my buddy, Ricky, now works in...

It was the Firetrucks dealer guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to go talk to the Firetrucks dealer. Your buddy, Ricky, works at what, jail? He works at Orange County Jail now.

Oh, yeah? Yeah, he helped bring in Kodiak Black. Kodak Black? Yeah, that guy.

Kodiak Black? Oh, I read that story in three different places. It's not Kodiak? No, it's Kodak.

Oh, I thought it was Kodiak, too. Oh, my goodness. They said his real name, too, which is worse than Kodiak. I mean, yeah, his real name is worse.

He's not in there anymore. Did he get out again? Yeah, yeah. Oh, because according to Facebook, he was arrested seven times yesterday.

Oh, yesterday? Well, no, whatever the story had. I mean, I saw it in seven different places, different versions of the same story. Yeah, we could ask Ricky if we could take a tour.

Yeah, I know. You know, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.

I'm good. I'm good. I don't want to go take a tour of the Orange County prison. Winter Garden is like a country bumpkin-like area, right?

It's in a pumpkin-like area, right? Yeah, ish. I don't know. I don't exist outside of the realm that I live in.

He didn't know where Leesburg was yesterday. Yeah. Really? Your brother got married right by there.

Cool. Sounds good. I forgot about that. All right, Allegiant and Sun Country Airlines merger has officially closed after receiving all required approvals.

Okay. So this one's okay, but Spirit, not allowed to merge with anyone. - Yeah, too big. - Too big.

Can't merge. Done, all done. The new combination aims to create more opportunities for travelers like expanded destinations, greater access to international travel, and enhance rewards over time. For the immediate future, both the Legion and Sun Country will continue to operate independently as the integration process is underway.

So, weren't those some of the same reasons that Spirit wanted to merge? Cost? Yeah. So why can these, these two, it's okay, the other one?

Well, the argument was that these two are smaller and they're coming together to become something a little bit bigger, whereas JetBlue is probably really big in comparison. Oh, is it that thing? And Spirit, I would assume that that's what the argument is. Do I agree with the argument?

No, I think that they should. Right, it would, something about it will eliminate competition and people will have to drop their prices. Right, which is ridiculous. Right.

But you know what? Yeah, I would have been fine with the merger, I don't see what the issue is. Yeah, I don't see what the problem is. I just want less government.

It's like, stop. What are you doing? It could have been JetBlue Spirit. Yeah, it could have been Jet Spirit.

Oh, Jet Spirit. Spirit Jet. Blue Spirit. I think JetBlue is the better of the two.

I would drive Jet... I would drive... What was that? I don't know.

Explosions. I would fly JetBlue, but I wouldn't fly Spirit. So, JetBlue has better customer service and better planes. And a better terminal.

And a better terminal. Do they have a better terminal? Yeah. So now, instead, what happened is Spirit is gone, and JetBlue is just taking over spots.

Moving right on in. Remodeling gates and things to make it look more. All right, you ready, Phil? Here's our moneymaker.

All right, let's go. FBI offers $200,000 for info on an ex-Air Force officer charged with spying for Iran. Oh. On an ex-what?

Air Force officer. Too many big words. Too many big words. It was a long title.

FBI offers $200,000 for info on an ex-Air Force officer charged with spying for Iran. Okay. So all we have to do is go to Iran and find her. She left and she's hiding in Iran.

It's a girl? It's a lady. She ran. She ran.

To Iran. She defected, actually, is what they're saying. She ran to Iran. Shouldn't be hard to find her over there.

Well, they've been looking for her since 2019. Nobody can find her. She's the one on the sheet. Yeah, she's the one without the sheet.

No, no, they showed pictures. She now wears the sheet. She has the sheet. I don't know how they have pictures, but they have pictures of her.

She looks nothing like she did when she lived here. She's got the sheet on. She could blend it very, very easily. That's like, where's Waldo?

Right. Is she less tan or more tan? I thought maybe we'd get you a dog like in the Navy, and you could maybe go look for her. You could maybe go look for it.

Yeah, you can go be Master Commander. Let's do it. Master Commander. Master Commander.

Master at Arms. It's easy to get that in right now. It's not like we're at war with them or anything. Yeah.

Is it Master at Arms? Master at Arms. Got it. Oh, you should make a Master Blender of Arms.

Master Blender of Arms? And just put, is there arms on that thing? And then have him holding arms? Does he have arms now?

He has no arms. You put arms on it. com. Master Blender of Arms.

Get your Phil shirts. The FBI is offering a $200,000 reward for information leading to the arrest. You don't even have to actually find her. Just find out where she is.

Oh, let's just chat GBT this and send it in. See what it says? " Oh, yeah, they'll love that. They have such a sense of humor at the FBI.

Send the check. Especially since Apple just cut them out of the phones. Really? Yeah, just the FBI.

Right, yeah. Apple upgraded their phones so the FBI can't get into them anymore. As far as signal is concerned. That was also something that we covered on this show.

s intelligence i don't think they're going to tell Can you tell us specifically what it was? I don't think there's anything highly classified anymore, I feel like the government's just releasing everything. Well, eventually, yes. Okay.

Six, seven years from now, they'll be going, this is what she told Iran. Hey, we're having a war over here in Iran, here's our location, it's a geographical location over here. You guys might be a little young to notice, but during Desert Storm, Geraldo Rivera gave away a location of a group. Did he?

Yeah. It was a live news broadcast, and he got kicked out, it's no longer to be, he can't go hang out with them. Yeah, 'cause they had trouble, it was bad, it was detrimental. " Or wherever they were.

North of the mountain, east of the sheep. Look for the big rock. " I'm with Navy SEAL unit number five, here they all are. Was that Desert Storm?

It was during Desert Storm. I gotta be honest, I don't think there was anything anybody else could do when we took in on Desert Storm. Wasn't that over in like two weeks? Yeah, I don't even think it was that long.

" Yeah. No doubt. Here on the map, I'll show you, we're right here? We're right here?

Bobby, is this right? Bobby, are you there? Bobby. Here's the list of the soldiers I'm with.

Exactly. Here's their family home locations and their phone numbers. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

The FBI has not forgotten and believes that during this critical moment in Iran's history there is someone who knows something about where she is. Okay. Her boyfriend? Well, I don't think you're allowed to have one in Iran.

Yes, you are. A boyfriend? Sure. Has to be picked up for you, though, by your parents.

Hmm. Arranged. But she's not from Iran. Yeah, but she defected, so it's not like she's over there in some big, you know, Americanized high-rise building.

Right. And is one of them. Allegedly. Allegedly.

I wrong. Hmm. Okay. All right.

Wichita, Kansas. Amanda White, a parent of two Clark Davidson Elementary students in Goddard, was shocked to learn... What did she learn? There's so many things running through my head right now.

It has to do with school. And it's not weird or anything, right? Um... Can't answer that question.

Because I know you pick out some crazy news clips sometimes. It was hard to find news today. And there's only two cigar stories Charlie, I know you're trying to get back at it But can you really pick it up a little bit, please? My lord I don't know, what is it?

Three reviews, two stories They're really big on the reviews right now She learned that a registered sex offender Was allowed to volunteer on a recent field trip As a chaperone Yeah, that's not okay Right That is not okay Don't they do a background show? They're supposed to That's the problem The system failed these children When she found out about it She first contacted principal Michael Allison Ebert? Informe me that there should be systems in place that flag them when these things occur. Yeah.

I would tell you man, there should be a system in place that doesn't allow this to happen. If only we had a way to check this sort of thing. You know what I mean? White said, obviously, that failed.

Obviously. White took to social media sharing a video to educate parents on how to protect your children. Now White has taken her concerns to the top. She said she has agreed to meet with district representatives on June 2nd for discussion This is a discussion about how to handle similar issues in the future should they arise.

Okay, lots to unpack here. Lots of things here. Okay, so first and foremost, the system definitely failed. Correct.

Right. And you have to fix that system. 100%. Right.

And I'm assuming that no one got hurt in this scenario with this person. I'm assuming also not, but I imagine, what did she start checking everybody who was a chaperone herself? She had to somehow find out? Well, I mean, yeah, well, you know, listen, I can tell you that I have friends that tell me about, that go through, that look up people around us, and they say, hey.

Sure, sure, sure, yeah, there's all those apps where you can pull it up, and then they show all these red dots, and those are all sex offenders. They're like, hey, just so you know, blah, blah, blah. Right. Okay.

Right, the guy on that podcast with you? Yeah. He's, you know, done something. You know, so, because the other thing that I also kind of find fascinating is because when people have brought some of this stuff to my attention, to my attention if you look a little deeper sometimes it's like oh you this guy's a you consider this guy a registered sex offender because he was 18 and he had a 16 year old girlfriend right i was gonna say that too you know like something like that was just the dad was mad at yeah you know what i mean yeah my uh my second wife's brother went to prison for that yeah you see what i mean like the mother got mad and pressed charges yeah like five years or Like, wow.

And now he's a registered sex offender. See what I'm saying? Right, right, yeah. So like, this is a person that, okay, it was out of the guidelines of the law, right?

Right. But, you know, does, in the same fashion, you know, does the crime match the punishment? Right. You know?

This wasn't some 25-, 35-year-old creepo kind of moving in on kids. Right, exactly, yeah. Yeah. I mean, they probably were going to school together.

Right. Exactly. She could have been a senior and she would have been a sophomore. Right.

You know what I mean? So, like, at that point... But, I mean, there has to be a line. One hundred percent.

Right. I totally agree with you. But should that person have that registered sex offender follow them for the rest of their life? Yeah, because, I mean, five years is long enough, apparently, to be in prison to where it does mess up the rest of your life.

I mean, you have to say you're a felon, you have to say you're a sex offender, every time you register for, you know, every time you go sign up for a job. I was 18, I dated a 16 year old, like-- Right, nobody gives you a chance to explain. Right. They just do the background check, and it goes, "Registered sex offender?

" Right, so, believe me, I'm the first, I'm all about protecting the kids. Sure, sure. It has to definitely happen, but, you know, there's something to be said about a scenario where a kid, in my opinion, It gets caught up in that and now has this label on them for the rest of their life. Right.

You know? And I got news for you, if that person wasn't screwed up before, five years in prison may screw that person up. That's what I meant, yeah. I mean, from what I understand, he's different than when he went in.

Yeah, of course. Neck tattoos, everything. Yeah, it's in there long enough to where you have to learn how that world works, and then you become part of that. And then your friends are other people that have been in prison.

Spider-web tattoo. The neck tattoo is a joke, by the way. I know plenty of good people with neck tattoos. - No, he does.

- Yes, I do. - No, he does. - Yes, I do. - No, he does.

- Yes, I do. - So, I assume every time you coach a new sport, do you have to be re-checked or whatever? - You need to get an updated background check, I think, every year or two years or something like that. But like, yeah, I mean, I'm, you know, the school, the school is super thorough.

- Yeah, I used to do Connor's field trips and stuff. I had to get redone every year. - Yeah, if you pop as a felon or anything like that. Right.

They let you know, hey, by the way, you're not going on this field trip, and, yeah, don't even bother coming on campus. Right, yeah, you can't pick up your child anymore. Yeah, by the way, make sure you have arrangements for somebody to come and get him, you know? Right.

Did Preston's organization have to do a background check on you? Yeah. Didn't they? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Will your new league have to do that? I'm not doing a league. Oh.

But let's say you were to maybe start up a league of some type of sport or something. Here's what I will tell you. A couple seasons ago, the Winter Park League started to implement these necklaces. After you did a background check, you got approved, and you had to wear this necklace to show who you were, and you were permitted to be on the sidelines.

I loved that. I thought that was great. Like a lanyard with your picture on it? Yeah.

Okay. Not like a silver necklace? No. This is who you are.

You're allowed to be on the sidelines with the kids, period. Yeah, that's a great idea. I think it's fantastic. Here's the problem.

The self-entitled parents and coaches of Winter Park may be someone that didn't want to wear it. Oh. So, you know, like I think that that's where, and this is just me speculating, first of all, I think that's where things need to, enforcement needs to be better structured so that if you don't have it, you're not coaching that day. Right, that's what they should do.

It's over. Like, where's your necklace? I don't, oh, I left it at home. Yeah, where's your, laying here with your ID on it?

I forgot it. Well, I got news for you, dude, you can't be on the sidelines. Yeah, you don't say, we don't. Well, then I don't have anybody to coach the team, like, well, then I guess you're gonna have to forfeit.

I don't, like, I don't know what to tell you. Right, I'm sorry, that's the rules. Like, here's, right. Wouldn't that be like a, like a referee situation?

Like, wouldn't the referees come, like, hey, you don't have a lanyard, you gotta, you can't be on the sidelines? I think, so it's structured where referees should state it, and then there's a league manager to continue to enforce it. Oh, okay. So you guys have a league manager every game?

There are league managers that are around the field, yeah. Are you a league manager? No, I don't want that job. Not yet.

Want me to mention that to Preston? No, no, no. Why you are not a league manager? I get a few minutes alone with him as soon as he gets here.

I coach from sunup to sundown. I know. How could I possibly do league management? I don't know what it involves.

It's like reffing and being a... Oh, so a ref is also a league manager. A ref can do both. I mean, a league manager could do both.

Is that a paid position? Yeah. Oh. I'm good.

Could I be a league manager and not do anything else? Yeah. And get paid? Sure.

How much does that pay? I have no idea. It's probably not enough. I'm sure it's not a lot.

Here's what I'm going to tell you. It doesn't have to be a tremendous amount. Just make it worth my while. Here's what I'm going to tell you.

You get to deal with all of the crap, right? All of the interactions from the parents that feel like they're 100% right. Don't try and consider other perspectives or anything. And I've seen it escalate.

I'm like, this is insane. Like, what are we doing? Oh, I'm sure, yeah. If the parents aren't going to wear their IDs, they're certainly going to yell at somebody.

I've heard, yeah, I've heard some of the, like, listen, you know, what's funny is you don't know who's friends with who, so I've heard parents making comments about things, and I'm like, yeah, no, that's not okay. Like, what you're saying is absolutely unacceptable. oh man it gets even worse like uh at the high school level like i dj the uh high school soccer games and stuff like that and some of the parents in the stands man they go as far as like oh ref you shouldn't call anything for that girl because she's only going to stetson or something like do they bring out like some real stuff did you have to get a background check to be a dj yeah you had to fill out yeah i had to do that i had to get the insurance information is that like greg refusing It's interesting to wear his ID of PCA, and he puts it on his belt loop, and it hangs down. No, that's different, because you're not interacting with children.

Well, yeah, but still, you're supposed to wear it where it could be seen, though. Well, if you're trying to make that the argument, then maybe, yeah, but it is different. Well, I understand it's not children, but they just want to verify he's supposed to be in there. He always goes, and then shoves his hip at him.

Right. Uh, uh, uh, uh. Here's my hip and my balls, there you go. Oh, wow.

It's not much of a ball. Okay. Preston, we're talking about you on the show. Preston, you're not going to lose.

I miss you terribly. Tuesday can't come fast enough. Yeah. Love, Mikey.

Heart. Heart. Love, Heart. What are you talking about?

I get to see him today. Oh, do you really? Of course. He coaches with me.

Oh, is this the day you guys coach the same team? Yeah. Oh, see, I was not aware of that. I knew you coach the same team, but I didn't know it was on Fridays.

Yeah, he talks about it all that he's talked about. Well, when they're talking on Tuesdays, I really don't try to listen much, because it's, sometimes it sounds kind of personal. You probably should listen, because it'll teach you to become a better person. To hear how you guys complained that somebody yelled at somebody else about something somebody yelled at?

No, let's see how we talk to people to try and make them, you know. I talk to people fine. How do you feel about that, Phil? No comment.

Phil? I'd like a shot of you. Give me a shot of you. Yeah, I'm good.

Your camera's not working next time. No comment. How do you feel about a Princess Peach? No comment.

Okay. Princess Peach. You have a video for us today, Michael? I do not have a video.

Maybe one of Preston. Nope. You know what? Why don't we do this?

Why don't we let the viewers comment about Palmer? How I talk to people? Yeah, we'll just let them comment. Why not?

Oh, sure. Okay. I don't have a problem with that. It's perfect.

Okay. All right, then we're going to get into Cigar News. No video. That's perfect, because we already have 50 minutes.

5-0? Yep. Yeah, some of these were longer. I figured some of these would be a good conversation.

Like, this is awful short, but it's a good talker. That's it. Those are the gems. Yes.

Jonathan Drew named Chief Innovation Officer. He's the CIO? CIO, which is actually a thing, I looked it up. Yeah.

I never heard it before. At Drew Estate. Oh. Drew Estate has announced that Jonathan Drew Sanz, now they say his home name.

Oh, they started adding it. Yeah, they added it. So Drew is his middle name or hyphenated? It's his middle name.

He's merging. Yeah, it's not hyphened. He's moving into a new role at the company, Chief Innovation Officer, Drew Sanz, who also... Oh, he's not using the Jonathan apparently anymore either.

So now he's Drew. His first name's Drew. I'm sorry, are we bothering you? Yeah, my wife's giving me the results from her ultrasound.

Oh, so we'll just wait then. Good, thank you. You're having a baby? No, we're not having a baby.

Yeah, he's having a baby. She might have to have breast surgery again. Oh. Way to bring it down.

I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, you know. Is everything okay? Yeah, sure.

Well, you don't care. No, I do care. We care. No, that's fine.

Who also serves in the company's president will head up the company's new innovation division. Get off him. Don't even look at him. Me or you?

That's right. Perfect. I love that. Go ahead.

Keep going, Palmer. No, no. You want to be mean to us? I ain't mean to you.

You either would have got mad because my wife texted me with a medical thing. Yeah, I was so angry. I'm going to have to let you people not see them right now. Yeah, that's good.

They're arguing. Do you see how angry I am? Prince of Speech gets lots of air time. As part of the shift, you'll no longer lead the company's marketing department.

Wasn't he CEO before? Marketing department, but his name is Chief Innovation. Chief Innovations. Chief Innovations.

Yeah, CIO. CIO. Which CIO takes the marketing ideas and makes sure that they make money. I looked it up.

Yeah, okay, that makes sense. So it has nothing to do with marketing? No. It implements the ideas that other people come up with.

Do you think it pays more or pays less? More. I don't know. I don't know what he was making before.

I bet you it pays less. I would think it would pay less. Yeah. Because now, wasn't he CEO before?

Or was he director of marketing? I have no idea. It's so confusing. I think he was all of it.

I don't think it makes less. I think he maybe laterally moved? It's called Drew Estate, so, I mean, he had to be the guy at one point. Yeah, but I, you know, I mean, if you go, if you look at the past 10 years, it feels like, I don't know, when did Swisher take over?

Like 10 years. Like, there's a period where he was kind of just in the background. Right. And now he's kind of re-emerging looking at this San & Son.

- Right, which is supposedly in conjunction with Drew Estate, like collaborating. - Right. - So he's coming up with all these new cigars and things with the Sons & Sons. - Right.

- But he's supposed to be helping them come up with new cigars and things with Drew Estates. - Right. - So what, I have two ideas. There's a good one and a bad one.

So we're taking the good one, and we're gonna give them the bad one. Oh, well, they're two totally different operations. One's a wholesale operation, one's a retail operation. Right.

Well, he's wholesaling his own cigars, too. Yeah. Oh, what? You could carry his cigars here.

I can? Yes. Oh, so it's not just a wholesale operation. So you can purchase them through Drew Estate?

Through him, from what I understand. Oh, so it's a separate. Through a separate entity, a separate wholesale entity? Yes.

The way I'm reading this. Oh. That's why I thought it was so weird the other day when we did the story, it's like... Yeah, some people have been asking me questions because, you know, we cover these stories and everything.

It's like, how can you do both? And I'm like, I honestly don't know. You can do both. Well, you would think a company like Drew Estate would have a non-compete.

Dude, I'd do all three. Right? We'd do all three. Yeah, but it's not two separate companies that you own one and CIO of the other.

Right. - Right. - That'd be like, you know, hey, let's make this new Warbear, make it look like this. Oh, yeah, because I was gonna make one of these over the Pistinias.

I was gonna make that one look like that. You know, two different companies and one will use the same cigar. - I don't know, I don't know how all that, 'cause like-- - That's what's confusing. - 'Cause I guess what would make the most sense is the production, if I were running it, this is how I would do it.

If I'm gonna sell the cigars at San & Son, - Right. - And then also sell the cigars to other retailers. - Right. - Then what I would do is I would innovate under Drew Estate, create the products under Drew Estate, and then retail to Son & Son and retail to the other retailers that I select.

- Okay. - Right? So it wouldn't be a separate entity for wholesale. It would be all operated under wholesale here, and then that retail entity would just be attached to it, right?

- Okay. - Yeah, a subsidiary. Well, let's say he doesn't want to give Drew Estate money from Sons & Sons. He doesn't have to.

It's a separate entity. But Drew Estate is selling his cigars for him, so they're going to get a piece of it somewhere. So, but Sons & Sons has to pay Drew Estate for that product, right? He doesn't just get it for free.

He doesn't get it gratis. Well, right, but I don't think they're rolling all his stuff. He's using, according to what I've been reading, he's using the Dominican factory and he's also rolling in Miami. Yeah.

Okay. But neither one, well, the Dominican factory might be partially with Drew Estate, but I think the Miami operation is his. Okay. So if he's a manufacturer, now it's a third component.

So if he's a manufacturer as well, and then he looks to sell to retailers, then what he does is he takes that product and he sells it to the manufacturer, which is Drew Estate or the wholesaler, and then the wholesaler distributes it to the other retailers. So it's no different than like Ceniza Fina and us? I don't know if that's the right comparison, but it would be like if we made our own cigars here, like we had a roller here, and then we then offered it to other retailers, and we would have to sell that product to our wholesaler, a Poshik operation, and then Poshik would then mark it up and then sell it to the retailers. Okay, that works because we own all of them.

Yeah. But let's say you didn't own the wholesale operation. It wouldn't change anything. 50 to make it, and I want the wholesaler to sell it, then I would sell it to them for $2.

Right. Right? 50, whatever. Okay, then the wholesaler sells it...

For $4 or for $5, and then the retail is $10. Okay, but if I made it for two, and then I sold it for four, I'm making more money. - If you made it for two, and you sold it for four, three-- - Did my own wholesale. I made it, and I wholesaled it myself, so nobody else got a piece.

- Okay, well-- - Is this what he's doing, just by the way? - Well, that's what it sounds like, that's why I'm confused. - No, no, here's the thing, if, look, the infrastructure that's already in place for Drew Estate To handle the wholesale, it makes sense to partner with them, especially if I'm on the board, probably still has shares of the company, I would assume. He's just utilizing the resources.

Yeah, I don't know how that worked either when Swisher bought everything. So it's plug and play, I mean, I would, I would, if I'm going to make my own cigar and I want to sell it to other retailers, I would sell it to Drew Estate and then Drew Estate would then distribute it. Well, that would be the easiest thing to do, yes. Well, and that's how business is supposed to work.

You would want it to be cut and dry and self-explanatory and boom, right? And that's probably, I would assume, if that's what he's doing, if he's going to sell it to other retailers, that's how I would structure it, that's what would make the most sense. And then what I would do is, I'd even take it to the next level, and I would select the retailers that are permitted to have it, right? Right.

Like, you don't get to just... Yeah, right, yeah, you can't just buy a box. Right, no, no, not even that. You can't cherry pick our tree.

No, not even that. I'm not even saying either one of those things. I'm saying that... You're completely wrong.

You don't get to sell it to any other retailer. " Oh, done, right? Yeah, that's what I would do. And even if it's a small retailer that JD likes, they can buy one box if they wanted to.

And he'd be like, "Yeah, sure, whatever, dude. " Alright, they have hired Andrew Duncan as its new SVP of Marketing. Senior Vice President of Marketing, okay. Yes.

According to Drew Estate, the company's recent announcement about its new factory in the Dominican Republic is an example of the work that will be done by the Innovation Department. So they're in charge of new factories. Well, and new products. Right.

Yeah. In addition, the role will focus on brand building and engagement. Right. That makes sense.

Which is why he's becoming more apparent in the past couple of years. Yeah, more on the camera, yeah. Okay, hold on. There was something about that guy.

That's about his new shop down south. Is he allowed on field trips with kids? Only if he passes the background thing. Oh, here we go.

Duncan joins Drew State from Sazerac, S-A-Z-E-R-A-C, it's a liquor company, anybody familiar with that? Salazar's? Sazerac, Sazerac? Spell again.

S-A-Z-E-R-A-C? No, I've never heard of it. Preston texted him back, he did that big smile. No, Skip just texted me, he said, "I was your third choice," because he just watched the show.

" oh wow what a look of throwing me under the bus what are you talking about throwing you under the bus it's on video you say oh call this guy and i said sure i'll call this guy well i suggested the first one oh and the second so i guess you're right yeah well i didn't think he would be uh he would want to play did you did you ever answer from terrence riley i gotta text him happy birthday Was it his birthday? Yeah. So, see, you've got to think about this as just, the question that you should ask me is would Skip have been my first choice? Yeah.

Oh, well, I mean, at this point you could just say yes. I wanted to, but you suggested two other people. Would I say that? No, see, you would say that.

I would say that. I wouldn't say that. Would Skip have been your first choice? That's a great question.

I don't know. Who would I have chosen? I really enjoyed having him on the show, doing that. Yeah.

Would you rather call Rosales or would you rather call Skip? To play the game? Skip. Yeah.

Especially now that he's done it. Yeah. There's a lot of good value there. Right.

What we should do is get two or three industry people, in addition to you and even him, if you want, and do like a big, a big version of the game, instead of like a game show. Yeah. - I like mixing one person in, though. - Yeah, and another person in?

- Yeah, every once in a while? - Yeah, I think, you know, with me and Mikey, yeah. Stop trying to always push me out, Palmer. - Yeah.

- Jeez. - Okay, anyway, they got this guy from another liquor company. - Okay. - Oh, there it is again.

- Yeah, that is like our industry's go-to, we need a new person. Well, let's go look for a liquor company guy. He's in charge of the marketing. - Is that like a comparable industry?

I mean, there are a lot of similarities, I mean, 21 and older. Right, a luxury-type item? I guess, I wouldn't argue luxury, you know, because I think that's where you kind of, I don't think that... Okay, maybe luxury, a disposable income-type product?

I don't know, I feel like there are a lot of people that need alcohol. Is liquor made in third-world countries? It can be. I'm just, I'm not familiar, so I was just asking.

Cordecaña is made in Nicaragua? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay? Yeah, you can drink that, right?

Yeah. Bacardi started in Cuba and then moved to the Dominican Republic. I mean, you know, I'm basing two things off of rum here, but, you know, there's a US market, obviously, with bourbon, right? And then you have your scotches that are, you know.

But do you think it is a comparable industry, though? Like, if you do really well with alcohol and liquor, you can do really well with cigars? I don't know. I don't know.

Well, I think that there are some things that are intriguing that it's like, - Okay, well, maybe this will fit, right? I mean, I would much rather, if I'm looking outside of the industry, where would I pull from? Well, it ain't from Xerox, I could tell you that much, you know what I'm saying? - Yes, sir!

- You know what I mean? - He got the joke. - Yeah. - I mean, there wasn't a joke there, it was just a statement.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You know what I mean? - Yeah, okay, whatever. - Like, secret shot.

- I didn't say anything, I'm just laughing, I'm sorry. - We're explaining it, go on. I could see some of the reasons as to why you would look at liquor. I couldn't think of another, like what am I the energy drink guy, you know what I mean?

Are we out of good people in the tobacco industry? Where we have to go to outside industries to find someone to, I mean, Drew Estate's a big company. They couldn't bring some marketing guy maybe from a smaller tobacco company and let him grow other than, - Let's get this guy over here, he knows all about Buffalo Trace. - He's, well, you know, he's unscathed from the industry, you know.

- I guess you have that too, yeah. - To be fair, I think that when we've had conversations with people, and we've talked about either utilizing them to some degree, when you have those conversations, you see all of their pitfalls and all of their habits that they've kind of developed inside of this industry, and then you're like, And as you kind of go down that rabbit hole, you come to the realization that you don't want their bullshit, you know? Both of you were looking at your phones when I'm talking. Sorry, I like this.

I understand. But what's his? I have no idea. Because now I'm just talking to myself at this point.

Well, I was listening to you. I mean, this is, your employee's here. My employees are here. I can't, I have to answer.

I was listening to what you said. Okay, so go ahead and give me your rebuttal. I don't know. Exactly.

No, I don't know if I agree, I think there should be good enough people in the tobacco industry that we can use to fill these holes. You weren't listening because that was what I just entirely addressed. I addressed the fact that, look, in our experience, we have tried to bring some people in that have had cigar experience, that have been in the cigar world, and after you have several conversations with them, and you hear what they promise, you realize how full of shit they are, And how much of a pain in the ass they are. So it makes sense to bring something from somewhere else that maybe has a different experience with a higher income, higher gross revenue and incorporate them into this industry.

Yeah, I mean like even PCA brought in the kayak guy, right? The kayak guy? Yeah, whatever. From the kayak travel website or from actually kayaks?

Yeah, he had nothing to do with cigars. He was brought in from a completely different industry. Is that the education guy, Rinaldo, or whatever his name is? Rick?

Whatever his name is. I don't know. The guy with the accent sounds like Count Dracula. He sounds like Count Dracula?

Does he? I like to take your blood. I just think, like, so you're seeing this a lot more in the- They do educational program. Go ahead.

Maduro or Connecticut? Right. Maduro. Maduro.

Maduro. You've caught Mikey now. He's giving it all. So why is it always the liquor industry?

No, no, I was, I was gonna, yeah, let me finish on that. No, no, we're done with you. So, I was just gonna. Text your employees.

I'm sure somebody lost a hammer or something. They didn't lose the hammer, they stole the hammer. They pawned the hammer and now they're telling you that they're out of a hammer. And now I need a new hammer.

Go ahead, go ahead, Phil. No, I just think that it's, it is a very smart tactic because you're seeing more and more It's in the cigar industry and a company like Drew Estate, you can't it's hard to bring somebody from a lower on him because he doesn't want to put his mask on, put the mask on, so all I had to do start dancing. Um, no, I think it's smart because you can't bring a smaller guy up to a company like Drew Estate. Like there's just not equipped to plug and play.

And these guys need a plug I don't know if you can play for a position like that. I'm sorry, this guy from Eagle Rare, George T. Stagg, and Sazerac, they can bring him in though? Well, first of all, Eagle Rare is a huge brand.

I understand that. I'm not saying it's not a big liquor brand, but it's not tobacco. Okay, first of all, I think that you could bring somebody in. From a lower position?

Yes. However, that list is much smaller than you think, right? Right? Like, if I could think of off the top of my head who I would want to work with us in our company, right?

Right. I mean, Law always pops in my head. Right? I'm like, because that shows, the first thing I look at is, did this guy work his ass off?

Right? Law worked his ass off. Right. Right?

Some of the cigar guys, they worked their ass off. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying that none of them do.

I'm just saying. - Yeah, yeah, right, but I'm telling you that it's very easy to go and look and see specific individuals, their bad habits, and what happens, right? I mean, we had a conversation about a person that's recently into this industry that you can see is already going to be coming a problem for this other organization, right? And, you know, it's like, okay, I don't know about that one, right?

So, I can argue either point, but I will tell you that on the aspect of bringing somebody up from the smaller portion of the industry, there are few and far between of guys of a caliber where you're like, hell yeah, I want that guy, you know? Right, and maybe you just want like something fresh. I mean, in order to evolve more, you need something that's not... You can go on new, princess.

There she is. So he did four years at the Liquor Company, and then before that he did five years at Procter & Gamble selling soap, and then before that he was in the military. You're saying a lot of good things as far as I'm concerned. You know, a military guy?

So the guy's got structure. Yeah, but Drew Estate doesn't though. They're the, you know, the fur coats and we're wearing our pajamas today. Yeah, well, but the value is where it all offsets, where you, where you can bring it all together and you can have the innovation plus the structure.

Well, you said he's a senior vice president of sales, right? No, marketing. Well, okay, so what did he do for Procter & Gamble? If it was sales, it would be completely different.

At Procter & Gamble, he was a marketing guy at Procter & Gamble. Right, so at the end of the day, he doesn't have to smoke cigars, he'd be great at marketing. Well, I mean, the other, the other positive there, though, too, is, I think one of the biggest challenges of marketing is making sure that you invest the money in the right Right spots so that you get a five extra turn on that investment, right? So, minimum.

So, you know, if a guy, if a marketer just green lights everything and then you realize, hey, we're burning millions of dollars and it's not producing any more revenue, then that structure is super important. Right. Right? And you could argue the other side, too, because if the structure is too much and the expenses don't happen and the risks don't happen, then maybe it doesn't develop.

So, I think that we can all agree on the fact that the structure is more important in this scenario for Drew Estate. Right. And that, and it sounds, I don't know who this guy is at all. Yeah, I don't know anything about him other than what I've read.

Right. But it sounds to me like this guy probably makes sense. He checks a lot of boxes. He understands structure.

You put the other guy, the crazy guy at the innovation, which is where he belongs, right? Right. That's where the innovation happens. That's where he thrives.

- And now you have that offset of, no, that's a terrible idea, we're not doing that, or, okay, we'll run with that, right? And you hope that it's not too much of, that's a terrible idea, right? - Yeah, he just shuts them down all the time. - Yeah.

- Yeah, and I'm sure Drew Estate or Swisher, whoever it is, probably vetted this guy. - Well, they know everything, where he's been, and all that kind of stuff. - Well, yeah, we'll see. - And they did the background check, I don't make sure he wasn't, you know, he can be around the children.

He's good on field trips. Right, yeah, he's good as a chaperone. Yeah, we need him to be on the field trips with the children with the cigars. Right.

See, that's another thing, all these other products, you can market in a different way than you can cigars. Not liquor? Yeah, exactly. That's a luxury item for adults.

You can put liquor on TV. You can't put liquor on a school bus? No, you can't put it on a school bus. Why would you put advertising on a school bus?

I don't know, this is the joke. Well, Orange City Elementary is sponsored by... Eagle Rare. - I mean, realistically, there's a reason why all three are categorized in the same one the government looks at: A, T, F.

- Well, yeah, I understand. - Right? - Well, he didn't do anything with guns, other than he was in the military. - All right, but all I'm saying is.

- He's A, T, S. - Yeah, but like my. - Alcohol, tobacco, and soap. - But, you know, I mean, so if the conversation is, well, where else could you pull from, you know, maybe it's firearms.

Maybe it's a, you know, a CEO of a firearm company or something like that. " Well, maybe nobody applied. I don't know if this is the kind of job you find out to open and you, you know, fill out, you know, they put it in the newspaper. I think that there's definitely proper marketing for these positions.

Well, you have to, yeah, you have to. Well, but it's more a behind-the-scenes type thing. I don't think so. It's illegal not to put it out.

I just figured they went to him. Like, hey, there's this guy. Somebody goes, hey, I know this guy. There's this guy.

We should go talk to him. And he's looking. Yeah, and he's looking. Maybe.

A headhunter. A headhunter type thing, you know, other than, you know, you look on glass floor or whatever those websites are called, and it says, Senior Vice President of Marketing for Drew Estate Cigars and Tobacco. Glass floor. That's the only thing I can think of off the top of my head.

It's close. It's a glass ceiling? It's a glass door. Is it a glass door?

Yeah. I don't know. I don't need a job. All right, San Parai Purple, the purple one, Toro is heading to Ariston?

Ariston? A-R-I-S-T-O-N? Artisan? No, it's A-R-I-S-T-O-N?

Ariston? Ariston. In late 2023, San Parai shipped what they says was a very limited quantity of its purple cigar. A 6x52 Toro, it's a Vitola that is listed on the company's website as purple.

But not regularly available for sale. " I like colors. Which were actually rolled in 2018. What?

I like colors. I like colors. But had not been sold since then, it's been offered at select events. Next month, for the first time, the San Parai Purple Toro will be sold in boxes of purple.

The Arison, oh, it's a Nashville cigar bar. It's the name of a cigar bar. Has gotten 300 boxes of 10 cigars of the purples. Nice.

So this cigar was made in 2023? Originally. Originally 2018. What was the 2023 thing for?

Maybe that's when, uh, Schwinburne took over. Mmm. Oh, in 2023, they shipped a very limited quantity, so they shipped everything they had. Oh, okay.

It's 6x52 purple. Okay, got it. So, but these are the ones from 2018. Okay.

Next month for, oh, wait, I read all this. Da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da. Okay, it's time for the industry's favorite game. What's the score?

That's like the theme music. Hold on, apparently the story is very long. I thought it was done. Oh, here we go.

Today's Cigar, May 14, 2026, Charlie Minato, Dominican Republic limited edition, Principal Cigar Reviews, The Principal Cigar Engagement. Okay. Eighty-five. Eighty-nine?

Mike says eighty-nine. Eighty-four. Cigar Reviewed, Principal Cigar Engagement, it is a Dominican Republic cigar, it's from Casa Carrillo, it's a Nicaraguan wrapper, Nicaraguan binder, Dominican filler, Dominican Republic, and Nicaraguan is the filler, it's a five and three quarter by 46, excuse me, and they smoke three, hold on, now your turn, 85, if you go too soon, he'll copy you, 84, 87. The cigar delivers a wide range of flavors, from sweet cedar, creaminess, and nuttiness, to paprika, honey, and floral notes, showing strong complexity even if it shifts often.

85? 84. 86. Is that the machines behind you?

Yeah, they're heating up. No, that's a semi-truck about to come through. Well, it sounded like a vacuum from upstairs. Clue number two, smoke production is excellent and the draw is generally good with moments, especially on the retrohale, providing a more traditional and enjoyable cigar experience.

85. 86. 88. 88 for Mikey.

The experience can feel inconsistent and off-putting at times with harsh flavors like dirty standing water. Ooh. Dirty standing water. Dirty standing water.

And construction issues, tight draw, multiple touch-ups, hurting the overall performance. Seventy-five. Pfff. Eighty-two.

Eighty-five. Eighty-five. Final thought. I also thought, "Had I smoked a cigar blind, I would be convinced that it got some age on it, from the extreme oddity of how the flavors presented themselves in the mouth to the flavors themselves.

Everything points to this being a cigar that was rolled a while ago, and not simply six months ago. The guessing game of when these were rolled isn't all that relevant to what you might get to smoke, but I'm not at all confident as to what you will find because of how inconsistent the experiences were. The one flavor-in-the-mouth approach was something that I can't recall experiencing before. What is flavor in the mouth?

Flavor in the mouth. He's talking about the dirty water. The dirty water. Made even weirder by the retrohale being quite different.

Outside of the knots in the third cigar, I don't have too many specific complaints about the inconsistency between the three cigars I smoked. Even on something like Strength, a pretty simple thing to categorize, the first and third cigars were about as mild as any cigar. I'll review this year, but the second cigar was just shy of medium full. As such, I come away from the experience more confused than confident in one I just smoked.

That was the final thought? Yep. That was it. You gotta use the brain you got.

Yeah, you gotta rub it up. 73. The dirty water threw him off. Dirty standing water.

That's a good number, actually. You can't say the description, dirty standing water, and expect this thing to be anywhere close to an 80. We discussed that with his idea with Skip yesterday. - I'm gonna go 74.

- The young man wins, 87. - Oh! - But he's not really playing. So, wow!

- Wow. - Good job, Mikey. - Good job. - Good job.

- Good job. - I still wanna hit my fireworks, though. - It was like three sparks that came out. - That probably needs to be refilled.

- I doubt it. I don't think it burns that much. If it goes by the dust that's on everything, then yes, it's completely. This thing was super inconsistent.

I didn't know if it was full, the medium body or lightweight. I didn't know if it tasted like dirty standing water. No, he did know it tasted dirty standing water. But yet, I gave it an 86.

He said it's 87. 87? He said 86. Wow, close to 90.

It was a 98. I love dirty standing water. Okay, make sure you like and subscribe. We're reviewing and listening to the show.

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Oh, I bought the ice cream spoon. Wait a second. You did? Yep.

I bought an ice cream spoon. Story yesterday. It Bluetooth's to your phone and when you use it, it puts Do Not Disturb on your phone. Really?

They were only available this morning at 9 o'clock. Paul and I were on desperately waiting to start. Ooh. That turned out great.

It did. The Apex listener. Hey, hey, hey. Look at that.

And how do you get that? By being a $100 member? By being the elite member of a Patreon. It's the $100 level.

Yeah, it's the best of the best. You're the top of the heap. I mean, there is a higher one. But for that, you get to be actually physically on the show, but you have to do your own travel arrangements.

And Ken was not, it's like, I'm good right here. Yeah, I'm good at this. We appreciate you, Ken. Yes, we do.

You're a great guy. They got us our new monitoring system. That's it. So we can call in Skip and get him upset that he was the third option.

So he is still listening though, so. He's number one in our hearts. But it's not in Palmer's. Hey!

Who did we call Terrence? Who else did we call him? We called Justin Andrews who didn't answer. - Yeah, and he didn't bother calling back.

- No, yeah, and it rang three times, it was sent to voicemail, so he sent you a voicemail. - Yeah, Skip's definitely above those two options. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Taren said, "I'll call you right back," and he did, twice, and we didn't answer.

- I did not answer, 'cause at that point I was talking to Skip. - Right, we were talking to Skip, and we're not gonna hang up on Skip to talk to anybody else. - Yeah, exactly, except my wife. - Or my wife.

- I gotta go with my wife. - So I have to answer the text messages, so I did just scan through them, I couldn't tell what was going on. - Right. - All right, guys, thank you very much, we gotta go.

Show Notes

On todays show Governments UFOo website goes Viral! Coffee isn’t safe anywhere anymore! A Airline Merger the government approved! A Phil and Palmer Money Making Scheme!  In Kansas The System failed!  Then in Cigars Drew estates what are you doing!  A new cigar for San Pariel you know the purple one then a what’s the score before we get out of here!