May 18, 2026· 1h 22m

ACHP Episode 532

Transcript

Welcome to A Cigar House for

podcast episode 532.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host over

in Engineering.

Today we have Phil.

I only get 20 minutes notice.

Mcguffey.

Hello.

And then as my Co host Mikey, I

forgot the shirt for 1/3 time.

I have the shirt.

Hey, I've remembered the shirt.

Step on Kevitch.

It's upstairs.

OK?

We don't need it for the show.

I wanted to show it.

I don't know what to tell.

You Mikey, I need you to go

upstairs OK and it go into my go

bring my backpack.

Do you know where my backpack

is?

Do?

You know which one is his.

It's right.

It's right by my computer.

It's a, it says Weasel Team 6 on

it.

You bring that back down for me.

All right.

Thanks buddy.

Nice job.

That is our intern, Mikey.

Yes.

Our intern.

Yep, he's he's working for his

college credits.

On today's show, government UFO

website goes viral.

Coffee isn't safe anywhere

anymore.

What?

Look, I'm drinking my coffee.

I don't care if it's got the

Hansa.

Not safe.

If it's got Hansa virus in it,

got hantavirus in it, you're

fine.

I don't care.

All right.

An airline merger the government

did approve.

OK.

A Phil and Palmer money making

scheme.

Yes.

In Kansas, the system, I'm

sorry, in Kansas, the system

failed the children.

Then in cigar news, drew a

state.

What are you doing a new cigar

for Sam Perai.

You know it's the purple 1 and I

watch the score before we get

out of here.

But first, Mikey, how do you get

some of that chapter pod swag

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Well.

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Skip called in or We called Skip

last last episode and he started

to talk a little bit about some

of our Patreon information.

He was so kind of the right

word, but he, he talked about it

in a way where they, no one, you

wouldn't know what we were

talking about, right?

Took me a minute to figure it

out and I I did the show.

So, OK, make sure you like and

subscribe where you're viewing

or listening to this show.

And some comments, yes, and some

comments from I don't know, but

at least we can hear him now.

That's just why he's doing it.

A couple comments.

No underwear from our.

Oh, here's the problem with the

intern Somebody's going to let

them back in.

Fill, let them in.

Fill let them in.

All right, hold on.

I'm going to take my mask off.

You're.

Going to take your mask off

Keep.

Your mask on.

He knows who you are.

Yeah, OK.

From episode.

From yesterday's episode or

Friday's episode.

Oh, who's having a problem now?

NFPA 1910 National Fire

Protection Association states

right here, Mikey.

Right here.

Thanks, buddy.

Yep, perfect.

Thanks bro.

No, you're good.

No, no, you're fine.

You.

Did a great.

Job.

You should have been down and

put your face on camera.

You've been great.

NFPA 1910, National Fire

Protection Association states 15

years for primary use and 25

years is end of life.

From your resident firefighter

at David Hoffman 4727.

We talked about the fire truck

that got stolen and I said how

old it was.

It didn't make sense.

So, but you were right because

it's not primary use, it's

sitting at the airport, right?

So it's still usable.

It's not considered end of life.

You.

Go back and say that one point

again.

You were right.

Thank you.

I I dude, you can go back 2

episodes no?

No, I know you did.

I don't just want everybody else

to hear.

I I have no issue no, but you

know, are you but if we're if if

you want to way.

Out here we go.

If you want to way out, we're

going recent.

If you want to way out right or

just convincing.

No, no, if it's not one, it's

the other.

You far surpass on the

convincing.

Thing.

Oh, certainly, yes.

Than just being right because

you're not.

If everybody would just let my

convincing ones go, I'd really

appreciate that.

Yeah, well, the problem is that

you're right, one out of 10.

I'm convinced.

Is that from the Baywatch Guy

Hoffman?

No, that's Hasselhoff.

Hasselhoff.

But we'll just go with yes, it

was.

He's a big listener of the show.

Princess Peach is very special

at Rooks Coding says they had

planes before Palmer.

Yes, me and the Wright brothers

grew up together.

They did not have planes before

Wait.

Yeah, yeah, there's another one

about fire trucks.

No no, they used to ride

pterodactyls.

It's like the Flintstones.

Yeah, yes, yeah, They put the

yeah, the stone cylinder on the

back of the pterodactyl.

Right Flintstones, meet the

Flintstones at CW6383 says also

Skip was on fire and laying down

some great knowledge.

More Skip please.

He was.

I enjoy having him on.

What's the score?

No, yeah, it was perfect.

Did he win?

Here's what it was.

They split.

No, he won.

Because he got a he.

Nailed it.

Yeah, right.

I won the first one, then he

nailed the second one.

I forgot you guys have that

weird rule.

Here's the deal with skip.

You need just the right amount

of skip, you know what I mean?

You need a good healthy dose.

Started to get a little long

winded but then he wrapped

himself up.

And then we closed it out.

Because I lit a cigar thinking

he was going to go on longer and

then.

I said, all right, I got to go.

All right, I got to go.

So the best way to get skip is

actually probably the time that

we record, right?

Because he's probably just

getting up and getting going and

he's got like 700 things in

front of him so we can get some

Intel.

He doesn't want to do any of

them yet.

What's that?

He doesn't want to do any of

them yet.

He's not.

At that point, he's just going

through whatever all he has to

do.

Yeah, he can't sit down with

like a Florida Kanye and a soda

and then kind of go on, you

know, right.

He's got he can give you some,

some good data and then he's got

to keep it moving.

And then and then people want

more, you know what I mean?

So CW63 AC CW63-A3 also said,

believe it or not, we've had

more than one ambulance stolen

from our hospital.

One lady took one to the Wawa

because they wouldn't give her

hot water for her tea.

So she went and got her own.

I got to be honest, kudos to

this woman.

You want to know how much that

hospital stayed cost?

And.

They couldn't give her hot

water.

You couldn't give her hot water.

Maybe just wasn't fast enough.

Then they should be faster.

I just want to hit the lights.

I like to argue.

I like to argue the other aspect

of these things play.

Nothing.

Yeah.

Don't worry, he was racist, yes.

Well, that wasn't racist.

I was just saying I want to hit

the emergency lights.

I get, so I can argue either

aspect of things when it gets

out of hand on the other side,

like when a hospital is doing

absolutely everything and

they're paying and the and the

invoicing is appropriate and all

of these things, right.

I'd be happy to say all that

however I would get I would

argue on the other side,

especially in the emergency

room, that things are always

lacking, right?

I mean, even what's even funnier

too is the show The Pit.

Like, have you watched The Pit?

Had before but not in a long

time because I don't have HBO

anymore.

Well, season 2, I mean, they

always just show this loaded

lobby just right.

Yeah, that's always full of

people, just.

Like and they had a guy die in

the lobby and they quietly got

him out.

Oh, pick him up like he was

asleep.

Yeah, exactly, Sir.

We're going to.

Yeah, Sir.

We're going to take you in the

back now, Sir.

Please wake up.

So yeah, he's dead.

Exactly.

I think he's dead.

Like no, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no.

He's just what we call dead ish.

Dead ish.

It's a medical term you don't

understand.

Correct.

He's very tired from episode

530, Bryce Field said.

That jacket sounds pretty cool,

depending on how much it is.

Yeah, I mean, I got to figure

that out.

I got to look into that.

What the jacket was for Tatuahe

or in that Tatuahe booth?

Oh, the sole tires or whatever

it was, Yeah, there was no

pricing.

It was kind of odd.

I mean they give pricing for

cigars.

For you today only.

We give you good price.

Great price, Great.

Price it a little snug, it's

fine.

Cigar.

People very robust.

And finally, from Michael Z,

Cigar Guy 55, If there was only

a way for Phil to stay up to

date on cigar news, maybe, maybe

you guys can cover that during

your show.

You know what?

You're right.

We're going to start covering

Cigar.

News I'll start looking up cigar

news on the show I.

Really, really kind of mix it up

for Phil.

Why do I need to be up to date

on cigar news?

Because we were stating we were

talking about a topic that we've

been covering for months about

Jonathan Sawn and Drew Estate

and all of this thing, and you

chimed in like you had

absolutely no idea what we were

talking about.

Listen.

Who, Jonathan, this is this.

Is the character OK?

I do this for all you guys.

This is it.

If it only was a character,

yeah.

That's what I was gonna say.

If it was only if.

If what you were saying was only

true.

Are you?

Smoking a purple What is that?

No, I'm.

So purple.

No, I don't have the purple.

I'm smoking the red.

There you go.

It looked purple like the way he

was moving.

I was like, what is that I'm.

On I'm on a Sumatra kick right

now 'cause it's here, right?

Well, we all have.

Been to be honest, yeah.

And we're very excited that it's

here.

I'm super.

Excited about the Churchill?

You know, I was super excited

about the Churchill too, and

then I started smoking this

grand Toro, see?

It's better.

And I definitely like the Grand

Toro better.

Yes.

I mean, I'm excited about the

Grand Toro, you know?

I mean, yeah.

It's great, it's amazing.

I can't wait for you to buy it.

Well, somebody said they were

gonna let me try the other day.

That was.

The other day you left early.

It's terrible thing, yeah.

He completely left.

Why'd you leave?

No, I was here.

You left.

Left.

He didn't leave I.

Was upstairs.

OK, I'll give you 1 I.

Even hung out with Alfredo.

I'll give you one later.

Oh.

Is that who brought the M and

Ms. Yeah, I assumed I I was and

he.

Got an order.

I texted him the next day.

I saw the M and Ms. there.

I was like, you're a sweet,

sweet man.

Oh.

You didn't see him either?

No.

Oh.

What time did he come in?

I have no.

Idea.

It was like it was like 5.

Yeah.

And I busted his balls for you

guys.

I told him.

I said see you in three years.

So was anybody up there or did

he like talk to Keanu?

No, it was still here.

Greg.

Yeah, Greg, Greg was there.

If he came in on Wednesday, I

think Wednesday is the worst day

for me right now.

You show up early, early

Wednesdays.

Sometimes I like to try and get

here as early as I can.

You know, as soon as I can get

here, I can get here.

Well.

Don't come before 8 because you

don't have an alarm code and you

don't have a key.

I would just come downstairs.

Yeah.

OK, I'm just letting you know

he's got a fingerprint.

Can't get in upstairs.

Sorry you hang out my office.

He's not.

Here at 8:00.

Yeah, it's true.

He's not even up yet.

I got.

ESPN and everything now, man,

it'll be great we got.

It all here Xbox.

Private.

Lounge has all that cover, but

I'm not screwing around with any

of that stuff.

We don't have an X working on

web development, I'm working.

On wholesale stuff.

I'm working.

There's a million things for me

to do well.

Maybe you could take your nap in

the morning?

That would He hasn't been up

long enough.

He's not tired yet.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, needs a couple hours to

exactly.

I didn't.

Know if it was just like a list

thing like you just got to get

it out of the way if I.

Can give it if I can give myself

like a solid 5 minutes to reach.

Out, you know, get out of bed,

15 minutes later, take my nap,

then it's off the list for the

day.

Perfect.

Yeah.

I got that done.

Check.

There's the nap.

Dude, there's a, there's a lot

of, you know, without saying

anything specifically and, and

without plugging anything,

there's a lot of stuff going on

on both sites right now,

wholesale and retail.

And I'm working on the utilizing

and developing things and it's

moving along at a rapid pace,

but it's still time consuming.

So when you do the tedious work

over and over again, it, for

one, it sucks a life out of you.

It really does.

It's like, oh God.

But I had a good conversation

with my boy Mitch, Mitch Smith.

He's like, you really should do

this.

And I'm like, really?

And he goes, yeah.

And then I said, OK, so like

this.

And I built part of it.

He goes, yeah, that's clean.

And that makes sense.

And I'm like, damn, he's right.

It is a lot cleaner, Mitch.

Mitch, Mitch, wish I knew that.

I should have wish I knew that

17 years ago, but.

Well, you could have asked him.

Yeah, so.

He was probably 17, so.

We're doing that on top of other

things.

So if you want to hear your

comment, settle out on the show,

comment below and we may we may

comment it out.

I might have a cheaper computer

guy for you.

A cheaper computer guy there's.

Apparently there's a fifth

grader at my wife's school who

is a genius and keeps getting in

trouble going into different

things.

He shouldn't be going into I.

Like, I like my guy.

All right.

I'm not taking my guy away and

Mike, the only reason why I

would replace my guys if my guy

screwed something up so bad or

was no longer available, you

know what I mean?

Hello.

No, no taking inch color

snowboard.

Right.

He tolerates a lot of abuse for

me, So you.

Haven't been putting up the

fingers.

I've no idea what time we're at.

What?

Fingers.

Every 7 minutes you're supposed

to put up another finger.

Every 7 minutes is that.

What you said or something with

sevens?

No, no, I told Mikey over there

that he had to hold up his

fingers.

Every time he gets to 10 he has

to reset.

Oh, I thought you meant that

one.

We're. 14 minutes.

Oh, you're fine.

We're moving right along.

I don't have any sort of the

news yet.

I don't want to run too long

you.

Know that was pretty good.

Isn't.

That frustrating what, when

you're talking and then he just

kind of goes over you.

I saw it on your face.

Oh no, I didn't even.

I didn't even know what he said.

Yeah, I could see it.

I saw it.

You see how?

Easy.

The show went yesterday when

Phil was not here.

We didn't over talk.

It was nice and smooth.

It's weird.

But you missed them.

You even said that you missed

them on the show.

Kind of afraid you're going to

watch.

He didn't have your and he

didn't.

Say anything?

Nobody said anything.

Stupid.

Nobody.

No, there's no way there to back

you.

That's what you missed.

Oh, is.

That what it was?

Yeah.

All right.

Hey, we're ready to start the

news.

No.

We're not.

I guess I'm not backing you

anymore.

That that puts you on your own,

which is a scary thing for you

so.

Is the time on the computer

screen over there?

Yeah.

Yeah, it looked exactly like

yours.

I I.

Just can't see it from here.

It's too small like.

It was some type of superpower,

I thought it.

Is he's Batman, but he's.

What I'm not he's.

Batman.

Yeah, but Batman's not a

superhero.

Batman just has a utility belt.

So Iron Man's not a superhero.

No, no, He just has a suit.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know where his work.

You have to have a power.

Yeah.

We got, we did a whole episode

on this one time.

Don't you remember?

No.

No, Yeah, we.

It was super.

It was when Batman versus or no

Superman versus Batman, yeah, it

came out.

The Movie.

Yeah.

Batman versus Superman, they

stopped.

Fighting because their mothers

have the same first name, That

one.

Is that true?

I don't.

Even know what he's talking

about, there's no way we did

that.

Show it.

Might have been.

It might mean me, him and Chet.

Maybe.

Yeah.

Maybe.

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, we.

Didn't cover it.

We.

Wouldn't we?

Wouldn't do that here?

Why?

Would we talk about that here?

I've.

Done so many shows 'cause you

like Batman and Superman I.

Do but that you like Superman,

but I wouldn't I wouldn't I

don't look for filler air of

nothing.

I look for good conversation.

We we've.

Talked about.

OK, anyways, let's just go on to

the next one, all right?

Now with the news the government

has released the UFO stuff.

You guys hear about that?

Yes, All right.

The Pentagon UFO website

shattered records with 340

million hits in the 1st 12

hours.

Wow.

The Pentagon launched a massive

digital archive of unidentified

phenomenon records, fulfilling A

transparency pledge from

President Donald Trump.

The release features hundreds of

documents and dozens of videos,

including an Apollo 11

transcripts, reports of objects

performing impossible aerial

maneuvers.

While the site garnered 340

million hits in 12 hours,

official state that the data

remains unresolved and does not

confirm extraterrestrial life.

After all that.

Yeah, after 340 million people

have gone on to look at these

photos and videos and

transcripts and audio

recordings, doesn't prove a

thing.

They say, wow.

And these are all I'm sorry.

These are all things that have

been hidden from us for decades.

How?

Obnoxious Is this no.

Shit it.

Could just be ChatGPT or cloud

or something.

What?

Do you mean?

Like the videos?

The videos of ChatGPT they.

Didn't have chat.

Oh, he means they made them now

till and supposedly they're

they're releasing more they're

doing it like Epstein files.

They're doing it in both things.

Oh.

So they'll just stop halfway.

It's.

Like because there's too many to

release them all at one time.

It's like.

Seasons.

Yeah, exactly.

This is the old stuff.

This is season 1, eventually.

We'll get up to the current day

stuff, yeah.

OK, so this happened yesterday,

so maybe Season 2 there's

something.

Well, there was stuff in Season

1, some of the photos of things

I've seen.

Yeah, I like that.

Do you believe that there's

aliens?

Yeah, I.

Mean you'd be silly not to.

We can't be the only thing

alive, yeah.

I do, but yeah, I believe I

mean.

I don't think lizard people are

running around, you know, with a

secret face on and eating

children or something.

Yeah.

I'm.

Not going down.

I'm not.

Yeah, yeah, no, no.

Mean, I'm sure they fly by and

they go, let's not laying there,

they look weird.

You think that's what they do?

Or they pick one up and go.

We can't eat these, They're

dirty.

They're dirty.

They have the hantavirus, they

have the.

All sorts of viruses down there.

We can't survive on the Apollo

11 thing, he starts, describing

something he's seen out of the

window.

It's like another spaceship fly

by.

Really.

Yeah, he just describes it.

Well, the Apollo 11, they didn't

have cameras back then in the

window I think was like this big

they didn't have.

Cameras back then.

Not one's aimed outside, yeah.

So it's like you couldn't mean

because.

They faked it anyway, so it

doesn't matter.

You couldn't.

That's not true.

So they couldn't use his iPhone.

That's what you're saying, Yeah.

Yeah, he didn't have an iPhone.

Because the iPhone technology is

way more advanced than was on

that rocket.

Yeah.

That's what they say, Yeah.

They say the iPhone could have

gone to the moon by itself.

I like.

How?

That one astronaut recently uses

iPhone for video.

Did you see that?

Yeah, that was pretty stellar.

Did you guys do a follow up on

the Trump phones?

No, no, there wasn't another

story.

They're.

Coming out.

Again.

Well, they've been saying that

for a year and a half, no?

He said August 15th now.

August 15th was the first date.

Oh, well, that's something I saw

today on Facebook.

Maybe when we talk about things.

Maybe that's why my Facebook

brings all that crap up.

Maybe it?

Does it?

I mean, it's certainly not.

I mean.

Here's the thought.

Maybe you shouldn't believe

every single piece of

information that you get on

Facebook.

No.

I was just saying it just came

across.

It was on Channel 2 news page.

Facebook is always fake almost

by.

By the way, allegedly, by the

way, we're approaching 3.7

million views as to how dumb we

are with gravity.

Yeah.

Can't they just move on to

something else?

Make something else. 3.7 million

views then.

We get, we should get a plaque

or something from Instagram,

something.

Isn't that wild?

It is.

I mean I would have 20 bucks.

I mean something and or a view?

Of a show go up or something.

I mean, we've outraged so many

people with, right?

15 I'm.

Always looking for that next

story too.

Yeah, I know this is naturally

happens.

So.

OK, so inconclusive evidence

about aliens.

Right.

They're saying the evidence that

they've given us means nothing.

There's no aliens.

Stay.

Tuned for Season 2?

To see if that evidence shows

that there's aliens.

You think that there were

there's no way.

Like they, they, they had to

have had an alien body at some

point.

Well.

Supposedly Area 51, that's where

that spaceship crashed, right?

That's the story, at least.

That's the story, And now the

story has gone further.

And supposing they gave Elon

Musk access to all that stuff

and that's how he built his

space program.

That.

Makes sense?

It would make sense.

Then it is a perfectly good, you

know, something that could have

happened.

I don't.

Believe that for a second.

I don't either.

You know Wendy is called the

alien he has a tattoo of it is.

He he kind of looks like.

Like one of the monsters from

Space Jam.

He does kind of look like

Wendy's.

Where you get the frosty?

Yeah, that's it.

He's an alien.

Yeah.

It's weird, the little redheaded

girl.

Now, when Benyama bless you, did

you sneeze?

Nope.

Yeah.

He's like the best player.

I couldn't even say what sport

he is.

You can.

See in the night.

What's he coming to the shop?

No, he plays.

Tonight, hopefully.

The Ant man will, will, will go

three and three.

Oh, I.

Like the Ant man you like?

The Ant Man.

That actor that plays him, I

like, you know.

What's funny is what does.

It look like he's.

Just a little white guy, yeah.

Definitely not, you know.

What's funny is I have you guys

are talking.

My one son loves Ant Man and

then my other son who casually

watches basketball likes Wimby.

So I went to go get him like a

Wimby card, like a an auto one.

Super expensive and then.

I realized that I did not need

to get him away.

How much is that an autographed

window?

They were too much money.

Yeah.

They're a lot is.

It three figures it's too.

Much money.

It's so funny because like I

don't even like I actually have

some friends that do this for a

living.

Like there's my buddy does runs

one called card rush and they're

like him and his other friend

like Hey, what?

So what kind of you know, what

are your what are your boys

like?

And I said, well, one likes Ant

man and a buddy, another buddy

of mine, not the card rush guy.

I went over and said, OK, no

problem.

I can get the Ant man.

He goes, what is the other guy?

Like I said, Wemby.

He's like pick another player,

pick another player.

And the Ant man is quite

affordable.

Anybody else?

Anybody else that he likes?

Anybody else?

Does he like any baseball guys?

Yeah.

So I was like, and what's funny

is like, I don't know what I'm

asking.

You know right, You didn't.

Know it was expensive.

They asked a question and I'm

like, I don't know.

This is what he like.

This is what he says so.

So how long now Phil you think

until he's in the card trading

business, our our friend here.

Let's go four months.

It's never.

Going to happen.

You said that a coaching

basketball.

That's different.

Why No?

Because something.

Else you get into because you

think you can make some money

out of it.

I don't.

I didn't think I could make

money in coaching.

Oh.

God, now we're going to have to

do cards.

Oh yeah.

I didn't.

I don't think I.

Know coaching doesn't pay you, I

understand that.

Yeah.

I just like, you know, there's a

lot of things that we do when we

try thinking it's going to be a

money making thing that doesn't

actually happen sometimes.

I can't give you an example,

don't ask.

Yeah, like what?

Not taking advertisers.

This show makes money.

Maybe more soon.

But oh, that's one of the news

articles of the but.

Hey, no, no, no, that's that's

but.

But like, I coach because I like

to be a positive influence on

these kids.

Know I understand why you coach.

There's not There's, there's,

there's.

No money in it.

It's actually the opposite, yes.

I know because you buy things

it's.

Probably the most expensive

thing, expensive hobby that I've

ever come across.

Yeah, this hobby.

'S pretty expensive.

Well, this.

One's this, one's finally

self-sustaining.

Oh.

Yeah, until there's some new

technology comes, no.

The difference is that like, and

you know what?

I skipped like our practice

squad shirts this this year,

this season.

Complaints.

Parental complaints, not

parental.

Complaints.

But kid complaints.

A kid, you know, I really want,

you know, I'm like, oh God.

Where's my practice jersey?

I was.

Like, man, you know, it's just

coach.

Are we not getting practice?

Like what's what's happening?

I'm sorry dum dum prices have

gone up, coach cannot afford

practice and Dum Dums which.

One you want.

I've ran out of Dum Dums too.

I better square that up before.

Yeah, there's there's high

expectations.

Every time I see them at Publix,

buy one, get one free.

I feel like buying a couple of

bags for you, but then I've

talked to myself about it.

Oh, that.

'D be great.

OK, so anyways, aliens next.

A winter garden man to secretly

recorded women in another coffee

shop restaurant of.

Course.

He did.

But this is winter garden that

Winter Park.

This is a lower quality.

So this camera system.

So this is so this is a thing.

This is a thing now in Central

Florida and a city that starts

with winter.

A 19 year old man was arrested

after he secretly recorded women

using the restroom at a coffee

shop and he had been doing so

for weeks, Winter Garden police

said.

On Tuesday, officers arrived at

the Axiom Coffee on West Plant

St.

Somebody.

Better ask him.

After a woman alerted staff that

a man was in the woman's

restroom with his pants down.

Upon arrival, police found Brian

Perez inside the upstairs

women's restroom.

Very bougie coffee shop with an

upstairs, yeah.

Two-story 1.

According to arrest affidavit,

officers reviewed Mr. Perez's

phone with his consent.

Oh, what do you do that for?

He's. 19 years old and he's

scared.

Found multiple videos of women

using the restroom.

The recording appeared to have

been made with his phone dropped

on the floor and alleged angled

toward the neighboring stall.

Oops, my bad my.

Bad.

Let me get this.

The earliest video was dated

April 3rd.

At least he hasn't been at it

too long.

So.

He wasn't even slick about it.

Apparently not.

The building's owner told

officers he had previously

caught Perez in the men's

handicap restroom near holes in

the wall that overlooked the

women's restroom.

OK.

You'd think he would have fixed

that.

Yeah, a hole in the wall holes.

There's more than one.

Wow, that overlooked the women.

So maybe the upstairs bathroom.

There was a hole.

You can see the downstairs

bathroom.

Wait.

A second you tell me this 19

year old kid is the only one in

trouble.

Not the owner of the shop.

Right.

I didn't get to fixing the holes

yet, I was trying to hey.

Don't.

Don't pay attention to those

glory holes over there that had

nothing to do with this

situation.

The owner said he warned Perez

to leave the property on

multiple occasions, but he kept

returning.

How do you not violate that guy

for trespassing?

Well, that's one of the things

they charged him with was

trespassing.

Yeah, at that point now I can

try after a month of obtaining

multiple.

Occasions.

Look dude, I've told you 7

times, yeah, don't record the

women through the holes in a

wall.

Like what are we doing?

Why?

Didn't he fix them?

Yeah.

No kidding.

Well, I'll, I'll fix this.

I'll just patch the holes.

Somebody had to teach this 19

year old kid I.

Mean he's 19 like calls parents

right like what are we doing

he's.

An adult.

Yeah, OK, by the term, yeah,

he's an adult, but he's he's

still young.

Yeah.

I mean, I, you know, I look at a

19 year old and I'm like, you're

a, you're every bit of a kid

now.

Look, I'm not saying that he

shouldn't be punished, you know,

whatever.

Right.

As an adult, yeah.

Punish him as an adult that's

fine, but like I still look if

my kids 19 years old and he's

doing something stupid, I put

that on me I'm like OK, I got to

I got to take care of this

let's.

Say he doesn't live at home

anymore, though he's moved out.

I still put it on me.

When do I no longer put it on me

is the real question.

OK, when do you really don't put

it on your own that's.

A great question at what?

Age.

Maybe like 2425?

That's the magic number, I say

at that.

Point it's like, OK, dude, at

this you you I've given I've

done everything I can, right?

I've tried every aspect to make

sure that you're contributing a

positive contributing factor to

this society, right?

Like this is on you.

Like there's, you know, I'm not.

Bailing you out of jail?

No.

You're you're doing it right.

You've been told not to

videotape the women in the

bathroom, correct?

We've been over this dozens of

times.

Yeah.

You've been trespassed.

You no longer allowed at

Starbucks?

Yeah, at 19, I'm still trying to

give him the help that he needs.

Gotcha.

You know what I mean?

Whatever that looks like,

whether it's, you know,

mandatory therapy, I don't know,

something, you know, maybe do.

Like on the motorcycle show,

he's cut his hands off.

No, I'm not cutting my kids

hands off.

Then he can't, you know, do

stuff.

No, that's that's.

Counterproductive.

OK, let's break this story down

real quick.

OK, first of all, they caught

this kid in the bathroom with

his pants down.

That's hilarious.

Like you walk in on this kid

doing something.

Well, he's gone into.

OK, well, there's two different

stories right here.

So he got caught by a woman in

the ladies bathroom in the other

stall with no pants on

videotaping.

Yeah.

At that point, I I trespassed

this kid.

I I pull him aside and but.

He's already been trespassed by

the owner for looking through

the holes in the from the men's

bathroom.

Were you upgraded?

At this is the time that he got

a, he got trespassed, no?

No, he got trespassed for going

in the men's restroom looking

through the holes.

That's not what.

You stated in the show you sit

in the article you stated that

he has done these things, but he

wasn't trespassed at that time.

The.

Owner said he had warned Perez

to leave the property on

multiple occasions but he kept

returning.

Right, We OK, Well, the police

now had charged him with Tres,

correct?

After after 5-10 times however

many times he's done this

multiple.

Attempts if.

They're charging him with it

doesn't mean the guy had to tell

him he's not allowed there at.

That point, he's trespassing

him.

Like, why didn't you trespass

him off the jump?

Yeah, because.

It only takes one time, yeah.

Whether you find them peeking

through glory holes or in the OR

whatever the first one was, I'm

like, OK dude, you're done.

Like we're done here, right you?

Know OK, so the guy just said

look you got to leave but didn't

call the police, correct.

OK.

All right.

I'm following right all.

Right.

How?

Busy is this coffee shop.

Apparently it's very, very busy.

Because.

Very good Wi-Fi, right?

Yeah.

So he's been charged with one

felony count of video voyeurism

and one misdemeanor count of

trespassing after a warning.

OK, so is there.

Levels of trespassing so.

We got a warning from yes.

Yes, there is.

Yeah.

So we got a warning the first

time that like whenever he was

notified, hey, you, you are.

This is a verbal warning.

Do not come back here.

They should have just docked

them.

Gotcha.

Boom.

So they could have just

trespassed him that first time

next.

Time you come back, you're going

to jail over right, All right.

Are we still?

Is there more to this story?

Not at the moment.

That is where the story ends.

He's been arrested and this is

what he's been charged with.

I'm.

Just still just baffled about

these holes in the wall.

Yeah, and nobody.

Else is in trouble since it's a.

Wonder Garden if you want to go

over there.

You know what, since you want to

do a skit in jail, maybe we go

in as a video and we go in as

like drywall repair.

Wait.

Is this a?

Is it?

Palmer wants to do a skit well.

You talked about that yesterday.

Yeah, there was somebody we were

going to go see in jail.

I forget who it was.

You know my buddy Ricky now

works in it.

Was the fire trucks dealer guy?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Want to go talk to the fire

trucks dealer?

Your.

Buddy Ricky works at what jail

he.

Works at Orange County jail now.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, he he helped bring in

Kodiak Black.

Kodak Black.

Yeah, that Kodak Kodiak Black.

Oh.

There's not.

I read that story in three

different places.

It's not Kodiak, no.

It's Kodak.

Oh, I.

Thought it was Kodiak too.

Oh.

My goodness.

They said his real name too,

which is worse than Kodiak I.

Mean he's.

Yeah.

Yeah, his real name is worse,

but he's not in there anymore.

Did.

He get out again.

Yeah, yeah.

They they cause according.

To Facebook.

He was arrested seven times

yesterday.

Oh, yesterday.

Well.

No, the whatever the story had,

I mean, I saw it in seven

different places, different

versions of the same story.

Yeah, we could ask Ricky if we

could take a tour.

I'm you.

Know I'm good, I'm good, I'm

good.

I don't want to go take a tour

of the Orange County prison

winter.

Garden is like a country bumpkin

like area right?

Yeah, Ish I.

Don't know.

I don't exist outside of the

realm that I live in.

He didn't know.

Where Leesburg was yesterday,

yeah.

Really.

That's your brother.

Got married right by there.

Sounds.

Good.

Like that.

All right, Allegiant and Sun

Country Airlines merger has

officially closed after

receiving all required

approvals.

OK, so this one's OK, but spirit

not allowed to merge with

anyway.

Yeah, too big.

Too.

Big can't merge.

Done and all done, the new

combination aims create more

opportunities for travellers

like expanded destinations,

greater access of international

travel and enhance rewards over

time.

For the immediate future, both

the Legion and Sun Country will

continue to operate

independently as the integration

process is under way.

So one of those some of the same

reasons that Spirit wanted to

merge.

Cost, yeah.

So why can these these two it's

OK the other one, well the.

Argument was that these two are

smaller and they're coming

together to become something a

little bit bigger, whereas

JetBlue is probably really big

in comparison and Spirit.

I would assume that that's what

the argument is.

Do I agree with the argument?

No, I think that they should it.

Would something about it will

eliminate competition and people

will have to drop their prices?

Which is ridiculous, but you

know what, yeah, I I would have

been fine with the merger.

I don't see what the what the

issue.

I just I just want less

government is like stop, what

are you doing?

Could have.

Been JetBlue Spirit.

Yeah, it could have been Jet

Spirit.

Oh, Jet.

Spirit.

Yeah, Spirit Jet.

Blue.

Spirit, I think Jet, JetBlue is

the better of the two because

well, yeah, I would, I would

drive Jet.

I would drive who was that?

I don't know, explosions.

I would fly JetBlue, but I

wouldn't fly Spirit.

So JetBlue has better customer

service and and better planes.

And a better terminal.

Do they have a better terminal?

Yeah, so now instead what

happened is Spirit is gone and

JetBlue is just taking, moving.

Right on in.

Remodeling gates and things to

make it make their take a look

there.

All right, you ready, Phil?

Here's our money maker all.

Right, let's go.

FBI offers $200,000 for info on

an ex Air Force officer charged

with spying for Iran.

On an ex What?

Air Force officer too many big.

Words.

Too many big words.

It was a long title.

FBI offers $200,000 for info on

an ex Air Force officer charged

with spying for Iran.

OK, so all we have to do is go

to Iran and find her.

She she left and she's hiding in

Iran.

It's a girl.

It's.

A lady, she ran.

She ran to Iran.

Affected actually, is what

they're saying.

To Iran shouldn't.

Be hard to find her over there

well.

They've been looking for her

since 2019.

Nobody can find her.

She's the one.

On the sheet.

Yeah, she's the one without the

sheet, no.

No, they should pictures.

She now wears the sheet she has

the sheet they have.

I don't know how they have

pictures.

They have pictures of her.

She looks nothing like she did

when she lived here.

She's got.

The sheet on she could blend.

It very, very.

It's like.

Where's Waldo, right?

Is she less tan or more I

thought.

Maybe we get you a dog like in

the Navy and you could maybe go

look.

Yeah, you can.

Go be master commander.

Master commander, master at

arms, it's easy to get in Iran

right now.

It's not like we're at war with

him or anything so.

Yeah, is it master at arms?

Master of Arms, got it.

Oh, she'd make a master blender

of arms.

Master Blender of Arms and just.

Put is there arms on that thing

and then.

Have him holding arms.

Does he have arms now?

He has no arms.

You.

Put arms on it.

Availablechapterpod.com.

Master Blender of Arms get.

Your fill shirts the.

FBI is over a $200,000 reward

for information leading to the

arrest.

You don't even have to actually

find her, just find out where

she is.

Oh, let's.

Just ChatGPT this and send it

see what it says.

You know, I just.

Call the FBI and say I heard

she's in Iran.

Oh yeah, they'll love that.

They have such a sense of humor

at the FBI send.

The check.

Especially since Apple just cut

them out of the phones.

Really.

Yeah, just the FBI, just.

Yeah, right.

Yeah, Apple upgraded their phone

so the FBI can't get into them

anymore.

As far as Signal is concerned,

that was also something that we

covered on this show.

Nice.

Welcome to the show.

And he was here that day.

Yeah.

Was that?

Yeah.

So she was charged in 2019 with

espionage in connection with

accusation she shared highly

classified U.S. intelligence

with Iran.

Apparently it didn't help them

much, but he.

Remembers a superhero

conversation from a decade ago

on one of the other podcasts,

right?

So what'd you tell them about

the aliens or.

Well, I mean, if it was highly

classified U.S. intelligence, I

don't think they're going to

tell us specifically what it

was.

Don't think there's anything

highly classified anymore.

I feel like the government's

just releasing everything.

Well, eventually, yes, 6-7 years

from now, they'll be going.

This is what she told Iran.

Hey, we're having a war over

here in Iran.

Here's our location geographical

location over here.

You guys might be a little young

to those, but during Desert

Storm, Geraldo Rivera gave away

a location of a group did.

He doing.

Doing a live news broadcast and

he got kicked out.

It's no longer to be.

He can't go hang out with them

well.

Yeah, 'cause they had that, it

was bad, it was detrimental,

yeah.

He was embedded with like one of

the earlier groups that went in

and he goes here we are in

Baghdad today, wherever they

were.

North of the mountain, east of

the sheep.

Look for the Big Rock.

Right.

You're like, oh, we know exactly

where that's at with.

Navy SEAL unit #5 Here they all

are.

I got.

Is that desert storm?

It was during desert.

Storm, I got to be honest, I

don't think there was anything

anybody could do when we took in

on Desert Storm.

Wasn't that over in like 2

weeks?

Yeah, I don't even.

Think it was that long, but

still as soon as they went in

they didn't want Geraldo going.

Here we are.

No.

Doubt here on the map?

I'll show you.

We're right here.

We're.

Right here, Bobby, is this

right?

Bobby, are you there?

Here's the list of the soldiers

I'm with.

Here's your family home.

Location their phone number.

It's.

Ridiculous.

The FBI is not forgotten and

believes that during this

critical moment in Iran's

history, there is someone who

knows something about where she

is.

OK, her boyfriend.

Well, I don't think you're

allowed to have one in Iran,

yes.

You are a.

Boyfriend sure has to be picked

up for you though by your

parents.

Arranged.

She's.

Not from Iran.

Yeah, but she defected, so it's

not like she's over there in

some big, you know, Americanized

high rise building, right?

She's living as one of them,

allegedly allegedly Iran.

OK.

All right.

Wichita, KS Amanda White, a

parent of 2 Clark Davidson

Elementary students in Goddard,

was shocked to learn.

What did she learn?

There's so many things running

through my head right now it.

Has to do with school.

And it's not weird or anything,

right?

Can't answer that question

because.

I know you've picked out some

crazy news clips.

Sometimes it was.

Hard to find news today and

there's only two cigar stories.

Charlie, I know you're trying to

get back at it, but can you

really pick it up a little bit,

please, my Lord?

I don't know what is it 3.

Reviews, 2 stories.

They're really big on the

reviews right now.

OK.

She's learned that a registered

sex offender was allowed to

volunteer on a recent field trip

as a chaperone.

Yeah.

That's not OK, right?

That is not OK.

Don't.

They do back.

They do back, they're supposed.

To that's the problem.

The system failed these

children.

When she found out about it she

first contacted principal

Allison Ebert informed me that

there should be systems in place

that flagged him when these

things occur.

I would tell you man, there

should be a system in place that

doesn't let us to happen if.

Only we had a way to check this

sort of thing, you know what I

mean?

White said.

Obviously, that failed.

Obviously.

White took the social media,

sharing a video to educate

parents on how to protect your

children.

Now, White is taking their

concerns to the top.

She said she has agreed to meet

with district representatives on

June 2nd for discussion about

how to handle similar issues in

the future should they arise.

OK.

Lots.

Of things here, OK.

So first and foremost, system

definitely failed, correct,

right.

And we have to fix that system

100%, right?

And I'm assuming that no one got

hurt in this scenario with this

person.

I'm assuming also not, but I

imagine she what did she start

checking everybody who was a

chaperone herself?

She had to somehow find out.

Well.

I mean, yeah.

Well, you know, listen, I can

tell you that I have friends

that tell me about that go

through that, look up people

around us and they say all

those.

All those apps where you can

pull it up and they show all

these red dots and the those are

all sex offenders.

They're.

Like, hey, just so you know,

blah, blah, blah.

OK, the guy on.

That podcast with you, you're

not going.

To believe this done something,

you know, so because the other

thing that that I also kind of

find fascinating is because when

people have brought some of the

stuff to my attention, if you

look a little deeper, sometimes

it's like you, this guy's a you

consider this guy a registered

sex offender because he was 18

and he had a 16 year old

girlfriend.

Right, I was going to say or

you.

Know like something like that

was.

Just the dad was mad at.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

My my second wife's brother went

to prison for that.

Yeah, you see what I mean?

Like the?

Mother got mad and pressed

charges.

He did like five years or

something.

Like wow and now.

He's a registered sex offender.

You.

See what I'm saying?

So like, this is a person that

OK, it was out of the guidelines

of the law, right, But but you

know, does in the same fashion,

you know, does the crime match

the punishment?

You know, this wasn't some 2535

year old creepo kind of moving

in on kids which.

Is, I mean, they probably were

going to school together, right?

Exactly.

Could have been a senior and she

would have been a sophomore.

Right.

You know what I mean?

So like at that point.

But I mean there has to be a

line. 100% right, I totally

agree with you, but should that

person have that registered sex

offender follow them for the

rest of their life?

Yeah, because, I mean, five

years is long enough,

apparently, to be in prison to

where it does mess up the rest

of your life.

I mean, you have to say you're a

felon.

You have to say you're a sex

offender every time you, you

know, every time you go sign up

for a job.

I was. 18I dated a 16 year old

like right?

Nobody gives you a chance to

explain, right?

They.

Just do the background check and

he goes registered sex offender

and you went to prison.

Right.

So believe me, I'm the first.

I'm all about protecting the

kids.

It has to definitely happen.

But you know there's something

that to be said about a scenario

where a kid in my opinion it

gets caught U in that and gets

and now has this label on them

for the rest of their life

right?

And I got news for you if that

person wasn't screwed U before

Years in prison may screw that

person up.

That's what I mean.

Yeah.

I mean, he's, from what I

understand.

He's different than when he went

in.

Yeah, of course.

Neck tattoos, everything, you

know.

Yeah.

It's in there long enough to

where you have to learn how that

world works.

And then you become part of

that.

And then your friends are other

people that have been in prison.

The neck tattoo.

The neck tattoo is a joke, by

the way.

I know plenty of good people

with neck tattoos.

Yes I do.

Yes, I do.

So I assume every time you coach

a new sport do you have to be

rechecked or?

Whatever you need to get a

updated background check, I

think every year or two years or

something like that.

But like, yeah, I mean, I'm, you

know, the school, the school is

super thorough.

Yeah, I used to do Connor's

field trips and stuff.

I had to get redone every year.

Yeah, if you.

Pop as a felon or any of that,

right, They let you know hey, by

the way, you're not going on

this field trip and yeah, don't

even bother coming on campus

yeah, you.

Can't pick up your child?

By the way, make sure you have

arrangements for somebody to

come and get him, you know.

Did Preston's organization have

to do a background check on you?

Yeah, Didn't they?

Yeah.

Will your new league have to do

that?

I'm not doing a league.

But let's say you were to maybe

start up a league of some type

of sport or something.

Here's what I will tell you a

couple seasons ago, a couple

seasons ago there the the Winter

Park League started to implement

these necklaces.

Well, after you did a background

check, you got approved and you

had to wear this necklace to

show who you were and you were

permitted to be on the

sidelines.

I love that.

I thought that was great, like

Lanyard with a picture on it,

Yeah.

OK.

Not like a silver necklace, no.

This this is who you are.

You're allowed to be on the

sidelines with the kids, period.

It's a great idea.

I think it's fantastic.

Here's the problem.

The self entitled parents and

coaches of Winter Park, maybe

someone that don't want to wear

it.

Oh, so you know, like I think

that that's where, and this is

just me speculating, first of

all, I think that's where things

need to enforcement needs to be

better structured so that if you

don't have it, you're not

coaching that day, like right.

That's what they should do.

It's over like.

Where's your necklace?

I don't.

Oh, I left it at home.

Yeah.

Where?

Where's your lanyard with your

ID on it?

I forgot it.

OK, well, I I got news for you,

dude.

You can't be on the sidelines.

Well, then I don't have anybody

to coach the team like.

Well, then I guess you're going

to have to forfeit.

I don't like I don't know what

to tell you.

I'm.

Sorry, that's the rule like.

Here's right wouldn't.

That be like a like a reference

situation like when the

referee's coming, hey, you don't

have a lanyard, you gotta you

can't be on the sideline I.

Think so?

It's structured where referee

should state it and then there's

a league manager to continue to

enforce it.

OK.

So you guys have a league

manager there every there?

Are league managers that are

around the field?

Yeah, are.

You a league manager?

No, I don't want that job.

Not.

Yet want me to mention that to

Preston?

No.

No, no.

Why?

You are not a league manager.

I get a few minutes alone with

him when he as soon as he gets

here, I coach from.

Sunup to sundown, how could I

possibly do league management?

I I don't know what it involves.

It's like refing and being oh.

So a ref is also a league

manager.

A ref can do both.

I mean, a league manager, a

league manager could do both.

Is that?

A paid position, yeah.

Oh.

I'm good.

Could I be a league manager and

not do anything else and get

paid?

Sure.

How much does that pay?

I have.

No idea.

I will.

Probably not enough.

I'm sure it's not.

Here's what I'm going to tell

you.

It didn't have.

To be a tremendous amount just

make it worth my while.

Here's.

Going to tell you you get to

deal with all of the crap right

all of the interactions from the

parents that don't that feel

like they're 100% right.

Don't try and consider other

perspectives or anything.

And and they, you know, and I've

seen it escalate.

I'm like, this is insane.

Like what are we doing?

Oh, I'm.

Sure.

Yeah.

With the, you know, the parents

aren't going to wear their IDs.

They're sure they're going to

yell at somebody, I've heard.

Yeah, I've heard some of the

listen, you know, what's funny

is you don't know who's friends

with who.

So I've heard parents is making

comments about things and I'm

like, yeah, no, that's not OK.

You're like, what you're saying

is absolutely unacceptable.

Oh.

Man, it gets even worse like at

the high school level, like IDJ

the high school soccer games and

stuff like that.

And some of the parents in the

stands, man, they go as far as

like oh ref, you shouldn't call

anything for that girl cuz she's

only going to stats and or

something like do they bring out

like some real stuff?

Do you?

Have to get a background check

to be a DJ.

Yeah.

You had to fill out.

Yeah, I had to do that.

I had to get the insurance

information.

Is that like?

Greg refusing to wear his ID at

PCA and he puts it on his belt

loop and.

Everything that's different

because you're not, you're not

interacting with children.

Yeah, but it's still.

You're supposed to wear it where

it could be seen though.

Well, if you're, if you're

trying to make that the

argument, then maybe, yeah.

But yeah, but it is different.

Well.

I understand it's not children

but I just want to verify he's

supposed to be in there.

He always goes and it shoves his

hip at him.

Right.

Here's my hip and my bowl.

There you go.

Oh wow, it's not much of the

ball.

I don't.

Think he does.

That OK.

Preston, we're talking about you

on the show.

I miss you terribly.

Tuesday can't come fast enough.

Yeah.

Love, Mikey.

Heart, Heart.

Love, Heart.

What?

You talking about I get to see

him?

Today.

Oh, do you really?

Of course.

He coaches with me.

Oh, is this the day you guys

coach the same team?

Yeah.

Oh, I'd say I was not aware of

that.

I do.

You coach the same team, But I

didn't know it was on Fridays.

Yeah.

He talks about, he's talked

about.

Well, when they're talking on

Tuesdays, I really don't try to

listen much because it's

sometimes it sounds kind of

personal.

You probably should listen

because it'll teach you to

become a better person.

To hear you how you guys

complain that somebody yelled at

somebody else about something

somebody else see.

How we talk to people to try and

make them, you know, I talk to.

People fine.

How do you feel about that,

Phil?

No comment, Phil.

I'd like a shot of you.

Give me a shot of you.

Yeah, I'm good.

Your camera's not working next

time.

No comment how?

Do you feel about a Princess

Peach?

No, no.

Comment.

Princess Speech, you.

Have a video for us today.

I don't.

Have a video maybe?

You wouldn't have Preston.

Nope, you.

Know what?

Why don't we do this?

Why don't we let the viewers

comment about Paul?

Do I talk to people?

Yeah, we'll just let them

comment.

Why not?

Oh.

Sure, OK, I don't have a problem

with that.

It's perfect.

OK.

Right then we're going to get

into cigar news.

No video perfect because we.

Already have 50 minutes 5.

O Yep, yeah, some of these were

longer.

I figured some of these would be

a good conversation like this.

Awful short, but it's a good

talker.

That's it.

That's the that Those are the

gems.

Yes, Jonathan Drew named chief

innovation officer.

He's the CIOCIO, which is.

Actually a thing.

I looked it up.

Yeah, I've never heard of it

before at Drew Estate, OK Drew

said has announced that Jonathan

Drew sons now they say his home.

Oh.

They started adding it, yes.

So Drew is his middle name or

hyphenated?

It's his middle name.

He's merging.

Yeah, it's not Hyphen.

He's moving into a new role at

the company.

Chief Innovation Officer Drew

sends.

Who else?

Oh, he's not using the Jonathan

apparently anymore either.

Also.

His first name is Drew I'm.

Sorry we're bothering you.

Yeah, my wife's giving me the

results from her ultrasound.

Oh.

So we'll just wait, then you're.

Having a baby.

No, we're not having a baby.

She might have to have breast

surgery again.

Way to bring it down.

I'll tell you.

Yeah.

You know, is everything OK?

Yes.

You heard well.

You don't care?

No.

I do care.

We care.

No, that's fine.

Who?

Also serves in the company's

president will head up the

company's new Innovation Off

division.

Don't.

Even look at him.

I want to.

Yeah.

Me or you.

That's right.

Perfect.

I love that.

Go ahead.

Keep going, Palmer.

No, no, no.

You want to be mean to us?

Mean to you?

You're the one that got mad

because my wife texting me with

a medical thing.

I was so angry.

I'm going to.

Have to let you people not see

them right now, yeah.

That's good they're.

Arguing.

Do you see how angry, Princess?

Beach Princess Beach, you get

lots of airtime as part of the

shift.

You will no longer lead the

company's marketing department.

Wasn't he CEO before?

Marketing department, but his

name is Chief.

Innovations.

Yeah, CIOC.

I/O which CIO takes the

marketing ideas and make sure

that they make money I.

Looked it up.

Yeah.

OK.

That makes sense.

So it has nothing to do with

marketing?

No.

You think it implements?

The ideas that other people come

up with, do you think it?

Pays more, it pays less.

More I don't.

I don't know.

I don't know what he's making

before, I think.

I bet you pays less I.

Would think it would pay less.

Yeah.

Because now wasn't he CEO

before?

Or was he director of marketing?

I have no idea.

So confusing.

I think he.

Was all of it.

I don't I don't think it makes

less.

I think he maybe laterally moved

it's.

Called Drew Estate.

So I mean, he had to be the guy

at one point.

Yeah.

But I, you know, I mean, if you

go, if you look at the past 10

years, it feels like I don't

know when did Swisher take over

like 10 years?

Like there's a period where he

was kind of just in the

background, right.

And now he's kind of re

emerging, looking at this son

and son, right?

Which it which is supposedly in

conjunction with Drew State,

like collaborating, right?

So he's coming up with all these

new cigars and things with the

sons and sons, right?

But he's supposed to be helping

them come up with those cigars

and things with Drew States,

right?

So what I have two ideas.

There's a good one and a bad

one.

So we're taking a good one.

We're going to give them no

once.

Two over the two totally

different operations.

One's a whole wholesale

operation, one's a retail

operation.

Right.

Well, he's wholesaling his own

cigars, too.

Yeah.

Oh, what you.

Could carry his cigars here.

I can, yes.

Oh so.

It's so it's not just a

wholesale operation, so you.

Can purchase them through Jewish

state.

Through him, from what I

understand.

Oh, it's.

Separate for the.

Retirement.

A separate entity?

A separate wholesale entity,

yes.

The way I'm reading this.

That's why I thought it was so

weird the other day when we did

the story.

It's like.

Yeah, some people have been

questioned, have been asking me

questions because, you know, we

cover these stories and

everything's like, how can you

do both?

And I'm like, I honestly don't

know you.

Can do both.

Well you think a company like

Drew state would have a non

compete dude?

I do all three, right.

We do all three, but it's.

Not it's not 2 separate

companies that you own one and

CIO of the other, right?

That'd be like, you know, hey,

let's make this new warbearer

make it look like this.

Oh yeah, because I was going to

make one of these over over the

Pistinias.

I was going to make that one

look like that.

You know, two different

companies and when we use the

same cigar, I don't.

Know, I don't know how all that

because like what's confusing,

because I guess what would make

the most sense is the

production.

If I were running it, This is

how I would do it.

If, if, if I'm going to sell the

cigars at son and son and then

also sell the cigars to other

retailers, then what I would do

is I would innovate under Drew

estate, create the products

under Drew Estate and then

retail to son and son and retail

to the other retailers that I

select.

OK, right.

So it wouldn't be a separate

entity for wholesale.

It would be all operated under

wholesale here and then that

retail entity would just be

attached to it, right?

OK.

Yeah.

So.

Let's say he doesn't want to

give Drew State money from Sons

and sons.

He doesn't have to, it's a

separate entity.

But Drew State is selling,

selling his cigars for him, so

they're going to get a piece of

it somewhere, so.

So, but son and son has to pay

Drew State for that product,

right?

He doesn't just get it for free.

He doesn't get it gratis.

Well.

Right.

But I don't think they're

rolling all his stuff He's using

then according to what I've been

reading, he's using the

Dominican factory and he's also

rolling in Miami.

Yeah, OK.

But neither one, Well, the

Dominican factory might be

partially in which your estate,

but I think the Miami operation

is his.

OK.

So if he's a manufacturer that

now it's a third component.

So if he's a manufacturer as

well, and then he looks to sell

to retailers, then what he does

is he takes that product and he

sells it to the manufacturer,

yeah, which is Drew Estate or

the wholesaler, and then the

wholesaler distributes it to the

other retailer, so.

It's no different than like

Sneezefina and us.

I don't know if that's the right

comparison, but it would be

like, it would be like if we

made, if we grew and if we made

our own cigars here, like we had

a roller here, right, right.

And then we then offered it to

other retailers and we would

have to sell that product to our

wholesaler, a PO Shake operation

and then PO Shake would then

mark it up and then sell it to

the retailers.

OK, that works because we own

all of them.

Yeah, but let's say you didn't

own the wholesale operation it.

It wouldn't change anything.

If it cost me $1.50 to make it

and I want the wholesaler to

sell it, then I would sell it to

them for $2.00 right, right.

Or $2.50 the.

Wholesaler sells it.

For $4.00 or for $5 and then the

retail is 10 bucks.

OK, but if I made it for two and

I'm then I sold it for four, I'm

making more money.

If you made it for two and you

sold it for four, did my.

Own did my own wholesale.

I hold I made it and I

wholesaled it myself so nobody

else got a piece.

OK, well, is this what?

He's doing just, by the way,

well.

That's what it sounds like.

That's why I'm.

Confused.

No.

Here's the thing, if look the

infrastructure that it's already

in place for Drew a state to

handle the wholesale, it makes

sense to partner with them,

especially if I'm on the board.

Yeah, probably still has shares

of the company.

Yeah, I would assume he's just.

Utilizing the resources, yeah.

So like, I don't know how.

That word either when Swisher

bought everything so it's plug.

And play, I mean, I would, I

would, if I'm going to make my

own cigar and I want to sell it

to other retailers, I would sell

it to Drew Estate and then Drew

Estate would then distribute

well.

That would be the easiest thing

to do, yes.

And that's how business is

supposed to work.

You would want it to be cut and

dry and self-explanatory and

boom, right.

And that's probably, I would

assume if that's what he's

doing, if he's going to sell it

to other retailers, that's how I

would structure it.

That's what would make them the

most sense.

And then what I would do is I'd

even take it to the next level

and I would select the retailers

that are permitted to have it.

Right.

Like you don't get to just you.

Yeah.

Right, Yeah, You can't just buy

a box, right?

No, no, not even that.

You can't.

Cherry pick our tree?

No.

Not even that.

I'm not even saying either one

of those things.

I'm saying that completely

wrong.

You don't get to sell it to any

any other retailer.

I will give you the names of the

people who I'm permitting to

carry our product and you can

sell it to them, but you don't

get to just walk into a retail

store, right.

And they say, oh, I want the son

and son done, right.

Right.

Yeah, That's what I would do.

And even if it's, and if it's a,

if it's a small retailer that

that JD likes, they can buy one

box if they wanted to, you know,

and he'd be like, yeah, sure,

whatever, dude, you know, we're

friends type whatever.

Yeah.

All right, they have hired

Andrew Duncan as it's new SVP of

Marketing.

Senior Vice President of

Marketing.

OK, Yes.

According to Drew State, the

company's recent announcement

about it's new factory in the

Dominican Republic is an example

of the work that will be done by

the innovation department.

So they're in charge of new

factories.

Well, and new products.

Right, Yeah.

In addition, the role will focus

on brand building and

engagement, right?

That makes sense, which is why

he's becoming more apparent in

the past couple of years.

Yeah, more in the camera.

Yeah, yeah.

OK, hold on.

There was something about that

guy that's about his new shop

down South.

Is he allowed on field trips

with kids?

Only if he passes the background

thing.

Oh, here we go.

Duncan joins Drew State from

Sazerac.

SAZERAC, it's a liquor company.

Anybody familiar with that?

Salazars.

Sazerac, Sazerac.

Spell again.

SAZERAC No.

I've never heard of it.

Preston text in the back.

He did that big smile.

No skip.

Skip, just text me, he said.

I was your third choice because

she says watch.

The show and.

I and I wrote.

Palmer chose, not me.

Wow, what a look I'm following.

Me under the bus?

What are you talking?

About throwing you under the

bus, it's on video.

You say, oh, call this guy and I

say sure, I'll call this guy.

Well, I suggested the first one.

Oh, and the second.

So I guess you're right.

It wasn't me.

Well, I didn't think he would

be.

He would want to play.

Did you?

Did you ever answer from Terence

Riley?

I had a.

Text, I'm happy birthday.

Was it his birthday?

Yeah.

Oh, was it.

So what?

See, you got to think about this

as just the question that you

should ask me is would Skip have

been my first choice?

Yeah.

Oh well, no, I mean, at this

point you could just say yes, I

wanted to, but you suggested to

other people would.

I say that No, see, you would

say that.

I would say that.

I wouldn't say that would.

Skip have been your first

choice.

That's a.

Great question.

I don't know who.

Would I?

I really enjoyed having him on

the show at doing that, yeah.

Would you rather would you

rather call Rosales or would you

rather call Skip?

To play the game, Skip.

Yeah.

Especially now that he's done

it, yeah.

There's a lot of good value

there.

What we should do is get two or

three industry people in

addition to you and even him if

you want, and do like a big a

big version of the game instead

of like a like a game show.

I like mixing one person in

though.

You add another person in, Yeah.

Every once in a while, yeah.

I think, you know, with me and

Mikey, yeah.

Stop trying to always push me

out, Palmer.

OK, anyway, they got this guy

from another liquor company.

So the guy, the guy, yeah, that

is like the our industry's go

to.

We need a new person.

Well, let's go look for liquor

company guy.

He's in charge of the marketing

is.

That a like a comparable

industry.

I mean, there are a lot of pro,

there are a lot of similarities.

I mean 21 and older.

Right, a luxury type item.

I guess I wouldn't argue luxury.

I would, you know, because I

think that's that's where you

kind of I don't think that I

don't maybe like.

You're a disposable income type.

I don't.

Feel like there are a lot of

people that need alcohol.

Is liquor made in third world

countries?

It can be.

I'm just I'm not familiar so I

was just asking.

Is made in in Nicaragua, oh.

Yeah, yeah, OK.

Yeah, you can drink that, right?

So the party started in Cuba and

then moved to the Dominican

Republic.

I mean, I know I'm basing 2

things off of rum here, but you

know, there's AUS Market

obviously with bourbon, right?

And then you have your scotches

that are, you know.

But do you think it is a

comparable industry though?

Like if you do really well with

alcohol and liquor, you can do

really well with cigars.

I don't know.

I think that there are some

things that are intriguing that

it was like, OK, well, maybe

this will fit, right.

I mean, I would much rather if

I'm looking outside of the

industry, where would I pull

from?

Well, it ain't from Xerox.

I could tell you that much.

You know what I'm saying?

Right.

You know what I mean?

You got the joke.

I mean, there wasn't a joke

there.

It was just a statement.

You know what I mean?

Like.

Secret shot.

I didn't say anything.

I'm just laughing.

Where am I?

Explaining it.

Like it like I could see some of

the reasons as to why you would

look at liquor.

I I couldn't I couldn't think of

another like what am I going to

get energy drink guy?

You know what I mean are.

We out of good people in the

tobacco industry where we have

to go to outside industries to

find someone to do.

I mean, Drew say it's a big

company.

We couldn't bring some marketing

guy maybe from a smaller tobacco

company and let him grow other

than let's get this guy over

here.

He knows all about Buffalo Trace

well.

You know, he's, he's unscathed

from the industry.

You know, I guess you.

Have that too.

Yeah, to.

Be fair.

I, I think that when we've had

conversations with people and,

and we've talked about either

utilizing them to some degree,

when you have those

conversations, you see all of

their pitfalls and all of their

habits.

They've kind of developed inside

of this industry.

And then you're like, as you

kind of go down that rabbit

hole, you, you come to the

realization that you don't want

their bullshit.

You know, both of you were

looking at your phones when I'm

talking, I understand, I

understand, but what's his?

I have no, because now I'm just

talking to myself with this.

I was.

Listening to you, I mean.

This is your employees here.

My employees are here, Kim.

I have to.

I was listening to what you

said, OK?

So what?

Go ahead and give me your

bottle.

I know, I don't know.

Exactly no.

I don't know if I agree.

I think there's there should be

good enough people in the

tobacco industry that we can use

to fill these holes you.

Weren't listening because that

was what I just entirely

addressed.

I addressed the fact that look,

in our experience, we have tried

to bring some people in that

have had cigar experience, that

have been in the cigar world.

And after you have several

conversations with them and you

hear what they promise, you

realize how full of shit they

are and how much of a pain in

the ass they are, right?

So it makes sense to to bring

something from somewhere else

that maybe has a different

experience with a higher income,

higher gross revenue and

incorporate them into this

industry.

Yeah, I mean like like even PCA

brought in the the kayak guy,

right the.

Kayak Guy.

Yeah, whatever the kayak.

Travel website or from actually

kayak.

Yeah, he had.

No, he had nothing to do with

cigars.

He's brought in from a

completely different industry

from.

Education guy, Ronaldo, or

whatever his name is.

Whatever his name is but but I'm

saying like with the.

Accent sounds like on Dracula.

Sound like on Dracula.

Does it does?

It I can take it, love.

I just think like so you seeing

this a lot more do educational.

Program.

Maduro or Connecticut, right?

Maduro is very Maduro.

Maduro, you've.

Caught Mikey, now he's he's so

why?

Is it always the liquor

industry?

Because.

I was.

I was going to.

Yeah, let me.

Finish on No no.

We're done with you.

So I was just going.

To text your employees.

Sure.

Somebody lost a hammer or

something?

They didn't lose the hammer.

They stole the hammer.

They pawned the hammer and now

they're telling you that they're

out of a hammer and now?

I need a new hammer go.

Ahead.

Go ahead, Phil.

No, I just think that it's it is

a very smart tactic because

you're seeing more and more of

this in the cigar industry and a

company like Drew a state you

can't, it's hard to bring

somebody from a lower on him.

Because he doesn't want to put

his mask on.

Put the.

Mask on.

So all.

I had to do was start dancing.

No, I think it's smart because

you can't bring a smaller guy up

to a company like Drew Estate.

Like they're just not equipped

to plug and play and these guys

need a plug and play for a

position like that.

So this.

This, I'm sorry, this guy from

Eagle rear George T Stagg and

Sazerac, they can.

They can bring him in, though.

Well.

First of all, Eagle rear is a

huge I.

Understand that I'm not saying

it's not a big liquor brand, but

it's not tobacco.

OK.

First of all, I think that you

could bring somebody in.

From a lower position.

Yes, however, that list is much

smaller than you think, right?

Like if I can think about top of

my head who I would want to work

with us in our company, right,

right.

I mean, law always pops in my

head, right?

I'm like, because that show, the

first thing I look at is did

this guy work his ass off,

Right.

Law worked his ass off, right,

Right.

Some of the cigar guys, they

worked their ass off, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm not saying that, none of

them do.

I'm just saying, yeah, yeah.

No, right.

But I'm telling you that it's

very easy to go and look and see

specific individuals, their bad

habits and what happens, right?

I mean, we had a conversation

about a person that's recently

into this industry that you can

see is already going to be

coming a problem for this, for

this other organization, right?

And you know, it's like, OK, I

don't know about that one,

right?

So, so I can argue either point.

But I will tell you that on the

aspect of bringing somebody out

from the smaller portion of the

industry, there are few and far

between of guys of a caliber

where you're like, hell yeah, I

want that guy, you know, right.

And maybe you just want like

something fresh.

I mean, in order to evolve more,

you need something that's.

Not you can go on, you Princess.

There she is.

So he did four years at the

liquor company and then before

that he did five years at

Procter and Gamble selling soap,

and then before that he was in

the military.

You're saying a lot of good

things as far as I'm concerned.

You know a military guy, so the

guy's got structure.

Yeah, but Drew State doesn't,

though.

They're the, you know, the the

fur coats and.

And we're wearing our pajamas

today.

Yeah.

Well, but the value is where it

all offsets, where you where you

can bring it all together and

you can have the innovation plus

the structure.

Well, you said he's a senior

vice president of sales, right?

No.

Marketing.

It would.

Do it would be completely

different at Procter and Gamble.

He was a marketing guy at

Procter and Gamble, right?

So at the end of the day, he

doesn't have to smoke cigars.

It'd be great at marketing well.

I mean the other, the other

positive there though too is I

think one of the biggest

challenges for marketing is

making sure that you invest the

money in the right spots so that

you get a 5X return on that

investment, right.

So minimum, so you know, if a

guy, if a marketer just green

lights everything and then you

realize, hey, we're burning

millions of dollars and it's not

producing any more revenue, then

that structure is super

important, right, right.

And you can argue the other side

too, because if the structure is

too much and the debt and the

and the expenses don't happen

and and the risks don't happen,

then you maybe it doesn't

develop.

So I think that we can all agree

on the fact that the structure

is more important in this

scenario for Drew State, right.

And that and it sounds I don't

know who this guy is at all.

Yeah, I.

Don't know anything about him

other than what I've read right.

But it sounds to me like this

guy probably makes sense.

He checks a lot of boxes.

He understands structure.

You put the other guy, the crazy

guy, at the innovation, which is

where he belongs, right?

That's where the innovation

happens.

That's where he thrives.

And now you have that offset of,

you know, that's a terrible

idea.

We're not doing that or, OK,

we'll run with that, right.

And you hope that it's not too

much of that's a terrible idea.

Yeah.

You just shuts them down all the

time.

Yeah, yeah.

And I'm sure Drew, a state or

Switcher, whoever it is,

probably vetted this guy.

Well, they know everything,

where he's been and all that

kind of stuff.

Yeah, we'll see.

And they?

Did the background check on him

make sure he wasn't you know?

He's OK around the children.

He's gonna be.

He's good on field trips, right?

Yeah, he's good, Good to chat

around.

Yeah, we.

Need him to be on the on the

field trips with the children

with the cigars, right?

Right.

That's another thing.

All these other products you can

market in a different way than

you can't.

Cigars not.

Liquor.

Yeah, exactly.

That's a luxury item for adults.

You put liquor.

On TV, you can't put liquor on a

school bus.

No, he can't put on a school

bus.

Why would you put advertising on

a school bus?

I don't.

Know this is the joke?

Well.

Orange City Elementary,

Show Notes

On todays show Governments UFOo website goes Viral! Coffee isn’t safe anywhere anymore! A Airline Merger the government approved! A Phil and Palmer Money Making Scheme! In Kansas The System failed! Then in Cigars Drew estates what are you doing! A new cigar for San Pariel you know the purple one then a what’s the score before we get out of here!