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June 1, 2026· 1h 5m

ACHP Episode 541 Cigars, Hombre, Pooping

ACHP Episode 541 Cigars, Hombre, Pooping

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Welcome to Cigars for Podcast

episode 541.

I'm Mike Palmer, your host.

I was on OGT Live last night and

had a great time with Eric and

Mallory.

Thanks guys, for having me on

your show.

Oh.

Oh.

And then coming in with

hamburger and ketchup

everywhere.

At a glacial paste.

And in engineering today we have

Phil.

Had to get himself a Sammy.

I have applied for a job with

Manscape so if anyone needs a

ball shave, call me Mcguffey.

Nice.

Wow.

That is my Co host Mikey.

I had Phil shave my balls and

boy am I smooth.

Now step on Kevitch.

Yes, the smoothness welcome.

Gentlemen.

Thank you.

Thank you for having me, Sir.

Oh, you're welcome.

You guys are welcome.

Thanks for So how'd your podcast

go yesterday?

It went really well.

It was a good time.

Yeah, they they have a nice

show.

Yeah, I didn't realize they

don't have a brick and mortar.

They're just an online business,

but they seem to do a good job.

They sold several Posagna

samplers while I was on.

Very nice.

And I, I flooded the audience

with the, with people's fans of

our show and friends of mine.

And so there's a lot of comments

going back and.

Forth, I heard you didn't

acknowledge T money.

Yeah, because he made one

comment.

I mean, I did say I did

acknowledge him at one point,

but apparently not the point he

wanted.

Oh, so now you're on the list.

Well, he offered to do his beer

guy show again.

Like my wife's out of town this

week of June.

If you want me to come back on,

just pick a night because I owe

you anyway.

It's Wednesday.

Well, he can't.

He's going to be out of town

that week.

Oh, he's going to Michigan.

So yeah, he's going to.

Michigan Did you say you flirted

with your friends?

Yes.

Were we there?

Well, Mikey was busy.

That's why I was doing the show,

the whole I said friends.

The whole purpose as to why he

did it, not me, is because I

could not do it.

So if I could do it, if I

couldn't do it and then be in

the audience, that doesn't

really make a lot of sense.

Makes him look bad.

Yeah, like, oh, hey guys.

Well, I was doing nothing.

I didn't know you could have

been eating a hamburger.

I don't know what you're.

Doing you never texted me.

That's 'cause I said I don't

know what you're doing at night.

You could be eating a hamburger.

Didn't I just say that Eddie's

didn't understand me?

Unbelievable.

All right, on today's show, oh,

bless.

You might have been still

watching the Coop show.

No, and I and I didn't even get

a text message from that.

I wish I would have got a text

message to get on that one too.

I put it in the group chat.

Not not in our group chat.

Yeah, I did.

You comment, don't.

I wasn't that last night.

No, you put a screenshot.

You didn't say that the Coop

show was starting.

How do you think I got the

screenshot?

Yeah, how do you think he got

the screenshot?

After he was already in there

and he was already going.

I like to be in there from the

beginning so we can just start

going ham right from the

beginning.

I didn't know he was doing the

show.

It's not like I'm getting

notifications from the coop

empire.

Are we stumbled?

Across it are.

We going to talk about the fact

that.

We can.

That were both blocked.

Yeah, where we were blocked

from.

We're blocked from Coopers.

I don't even know why it blocked

me.

I noticed on on Dojo they were

talking to some AI stuff so I

was commenting and then every

once in a while I would see them

reference a coop comment so I'd

go back and look like well I

don't.

See those?

I don't see these this.

Is odd.

So then I went and looked and it

it just shows the, you know, the

generic silhouette thing when

you pull him up.

So I was like, oh, I have been.

Blocked.

You have been blocked, yes, and

so am I.

Yes, welcome.

Welcome to the Thing.

Welcome to the Blocky Blocky.

So when I commented because his

show hadn't started yet, when I

stumbled across it and I said

hello to Jay Davis because he

was, there was four of us in

there and Jay Davis had said

something like Jay Davis does.

He always comments on those

shows.

So I said, oh, hi, Jay.

And then Coop's face you went.

I saw that, yeah, just.

He figured how can I kick him

out?

Well, you can't really, but I

was bored with your show so I

left.

Oh, that's not nice.

Don't say.

That well, I saw my favorite

part at the beginning where he

does, you know, from the goop

empire blah blah blah blah blah.

How do?

You know he does that.

From the Podomo.

That's your favorite part.

That's my favorite part, yeah,

because he sits there and then

he goes 1/2.

I think he counted all the way

to 10 last night.

Really.

Yes.

Make sure everybody was ready.

That's solid.

Yeah, solid 10.

So in today's show, how many #2

is enough?

It's been 10 years.

I still miss him.

Well, that wasn't supposed to

happen.

We have an update to a previous

story that we've been talking

about.

I like when we do the updates.

It's like, here's the rest of

the story.

Then in cigars, we have a lot of

shipping notifications.

A lot of things are shipping.

And then the usual We end the

show with a What's the score?

Win by Phil.

But first, Mikey, how do we get

some of that amazing chapter pod

swag?

And did we figure out if we take

Apple Pay?

Yeah, we do.

You just have to make sure that

it's aligned on the back end of

stripe.

I sent you that link.

Oh, did you send me links?

Did I ask?

Yeah, I.

Must have been in the same group

chat.

I didn't set up, I didn't set up

any.

You set up all that up.

Oh, got you.

So Stripe does accept Apple Pay,

but there might be an extra step

that you have to do.

I see.

All right, I'll have to figure

that out.

Or maybe he can use not use

Apple.

Pay well either way, I think we

need to fix.

It yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

Sure it will get on the list.

It's on the.

It's on the list, not.

On the list.

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The new website.

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We got some.

We got some more orders here,

bud.

Hey, what happened?

We have to.

Well, there's one.

You know what, dude?

I don't even know.

Add 1 to the BDP because the

when we get that.

Apple, you might be close.

Shout out to Mark Palmer, Miguel

Rocha, Ben Wilhelm Can.

Mark Palmer order again because

you shouted out to him

yesterday.

Yeah.

He's just trying to get you the

chafe.

Travis Peterson, Matthew

Brugger, Christopher Weiss, you

guys are all studs.

We only needed like 5 more.

That sounds like 5.

Well, they.

Well, they might have not.

Ordered They may have found the

mug was up on the site.

Well, where did they go?

Did you take them with you?

They're upstairs for being ready

to ship.

Oh, you put them in the backroom

instead of up here.

Yeah, wouldn't make more sense,

right?

Well, I guess.

We have a backroom.

Yeah.

Well, we we have a backroom.

Yeah, you you have a hamburger

stand.

Yeah, hamburger is this cigar

house's pocket.

I don't know what show I'm on,

which show I'm on.

You did not bring hamburgers or

everybody.

It's hamburger day.

It's not Hamburger day.

It's two days after Hamburger

Day.

Actually, it's more than that.

Well, it is technically yes,

but.

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I've been asked how you get to

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So, you know, do it, do it.

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The day we don't accept Apple

Pay but you can pay by credit

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They might on that one.

I don't know.

That's that doesn't go through

US.

Oh.

OK, from T money your friend, my

friend, not your.

Friend.

Not my friend, not my friend.

The cat elected president was

because you said Garfield was

assassinated.

Well, it was the president's

name.

Sorry we didn't get your joke.

We apologize, but you're #1.

Oh, that's what his joke was

last time.

OK.

Yeah.

Yes, not a joke.

You have to explain it, just so

you know.

Yeah.

And we don't remember anything

we have we have CRS.

CRS.

Yeah, not sure what that is

here.

Can't remember shit.

I know now.

Triple G is a fixer, the

definition of.

I know a guy from CW6383.

Listen, he's got a couple

skills.

Tell me I'm wrong.

No, no, you're exactly right.

He's got a couple things and we

know where to implement him,

right?

Because when we give him other

things, it's an absolute cluster

and.

Yeah, like Greg, get food for

the event.

Right.

He's a cluster.

I got these great little egg

rolls.

Yeah, not again.

Or hey, like, oh, the oh, the

spelling is incorrect on these

boxes.

Right, right.

The funny part is turns out the

spelling is correct on the

boxes.

The person who wrote the price

sheet spelt everything wrong.

And who wrote the price?

Right that.

Was him too, right?

However, bail money, Yeah, he's

your guy, right?

Well, he doesn't have to write

anything.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, they fill out the form as.

Long as yeah, no words, no

letters, David Hasselhoffman,

4727 Yes, says All I can imagine

is the CIA agent watched too

many duck tales as a kid and was

trying to be Scrooge Mcduck

swimming in his vault of gold.

The pictures and the follow up

stories are the big bars.

I don't know if they just

grabbed those.

Right, could just be B roll.

Well, they make better views

than, you know, tiny little bars

sitting on the table.

Yeah, it's the big.

It's the big one.

It's the big.

One the Nuggets.

It's not the Nuggets, it's the

bars.

I'm going to need another one.

Another one.

Yep.

Yep, that's doing well.

I don't know what to tell you.

Look at all this information

again.

Michael Z cigar guy said.

Did you really think Phil had a

chance at catching that cigar?

Get him a baseball Mitt.

I doubt that would help.

Oh.

Wow, what a shot.

I'm.

Not.

Even coop, sorry.

I don't get it.

He was taking a shot, a hard

shot there.

Yeah, not even, you know, we're

taking hard shots at Coop.

Sorry.

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La oh la Stancia, was that a

fella?

What's?

That Mirfell.

Mirfell Speaking of Scrooge

Mcduck.

Wow.

Darkwing Duck.

Is Darkwing.

I am the evil of the night.

Right.

So yeah.

All right, when is?

Oh sorry, when I was at it.

Time.

Yeah, let's get on with our

show.

When is the best time to poop?

In the morning.

Pooping might not be a favorite

topic for podcast, but it's one

of the most important ways your

body gets rid of waste.

Yeah, I guess there's only two

ways.

So that would be the best way I

guess.

Yeah, well, it's probably three

ways.

OK, I get one and two.

What's 3?

Pee, poop, vomit.

I don't think vomit is actually

a designated form of waste.

It's where you, I mean it's

where you get rid of if you have

toxins in your body.

For some people it is.

Yeah, What are you trying to say

over there, Phil?

There's some people that, you

know, stick their finger down my

throat.

That's an eating disorder.

It's a whole different show.

Yeah.

That's getting right away.

Anyway, healthy bowel movement

is typically medium to dark

brown, soft but firm and easy to

pass.

Diet, hydration, medications,

and even your gut bacteria can

all affect what shows up in the

toilet.

Hard to believe this was a

Google trending topic for today.

I believe it.

The poop poop knife is tracking

right now.

Just oh, is it really poop?

Knife after all those all these

weeks, yeah.

All right, what about timing?

Is there really a best time to

go morning?

According to Digestive health

expert, regularity matters more

than the clock, while the normal

range can be anywhere from three

times a day to three times a

week.

Oh man, that sounds miserable

only.

Three times a week.

Yeah, that's the minimum number

you should go.

That's that sounds.

Yeah, that sounds miserable.

Yeah, I probably have stomach

aches.

So backed up, yeah.

I'm three times a day easily.

I was going to ask how many

times a day you.

Three times a day easily, and it

depends on what I've eaten, but

another normal day three times.

Normal day three.

Yeah, one in the morning.

Dare I ask Phil?

Hold on, I'm not done.

One in the morning.

Yeah, a midday and then before

shower or bath time.

Yeah.

Yeah, almost like clockwork.

Really.

Phil 7 Seven times.

No, no, probably like 2 to 3 *

a.

Day Put your mask on.

Put your.

Mask.

It's like messing with my my

eyelashes today.

Did you curl them up or

something?

You put falsies on today.

No, it's just again, the

eyelids.

Two or three times a day.

Yeah, yeah, somewhere around

there.

OK, you can get off the camera

now.

You can put it back up.

That's fine.

Michael and your Yeah.

I mean I'm I would assume it's

probably 3 or more a day.

You know, the weird three or

more a day.

The weird part is we're probably

together when the majority of

our pooping happens.

You think so?

Well, I mean, mine's either

either right before I leave for

work or once I get to work, one

or the other, that time of the

day.

And then there's the midday,

which is always here.

Pooping on Company 10.

That's it, Yeah, and for a

dollar and for a dime, Pooping

on company time.

Right I.

Don't punch a block a lot here

so.

Is let me ask you a question, do

you have like a store that if

you walk into you instantly got

to poop?

No, but we all know I have

issues are stores that go to if

I have to poop, it's something

that I will not poop it, right?

Yeah, that's security issues.

Yeah, that's friendliness.

I have problems.

I have issues all.

Right.

What about you?

What he said.

No, no.

Is there is there a store if you

walk into it like you, you got?

It triggers.

No, no.

So I have you.

Yeah, I totally have Costco.

I'm glad This is why this

subject came up.

No, it's weird.

What is it?

It's Best Buy.

Really.

Best Buy?

Yeah.

How often do you go in Best Buy?

Not often, but when I go, I got

to go, really.

Well, you get super excited.

Yeah, that's probably what

happens.

Is yeah, super.

Excited.

I'm ready to buy, you know, ATV

or something.

Well, that's that's one of the

better ones to go to if you have

to because it's not used often.

Yeah, yes.

Do you know that by data?

My condition of bathroom on the

times I've been there and and

the stores are not known to be,

you know, traditionally always

busy, not like the old days

where kids would hang out there

and play video games and stuff.

Yeah, yeah, back in the yeah,

Circuit City days.

You know, I got tricked into

getting one of those membership

things with them that you renew

every year.

Oh.

Yeah.

Oh, Geek Squad.

Like the geek?

No, it's not.

Not like Best Buy has their own

membership thing now.

Oh, do they?

Yeah.

And it saved me money for like,

this thing that I bought.

I bought like that skyscraper

like chore thing and calendar.

It's awesome.

That was like 2.

Years the thing mounted on your

wallet by the.

Bridge and ever since then, I've

been trying to log in and get

this membership turned off.

You can't.

I can't even log in.

It's like, hey, who sends you

send us a code, It sends you a

code to your phone number.

I punched in the code.

That code's expired.

I'm like, you just sent it to

me.

There's no way.

We got your money.

Yeah, so they.

How much is that a year?

50 bucks or something?

50 bucks a year?

Yeah, that adds up, man.

They pelt me, yeah.

Well, yeah, when you got

probably 40,000 people that come

to the store.

I just need to call my credit

card company and say hey turn

this.

Off just cancel the card.

Yeah, that's.

It depends on wait, what card is

it?

Because like some cards when you

when you get a new one, they go,

well, all your automatic stuff

just transferred over.

Congratulations.

Like, well, that's the reason I

got rid of the card.

Yeah, I need to just cancel.

I need to just disable like

cancel.

That.

Block that.

Even if you go into Best Buy,

they won't cancel it.

Oh yeah, they said.

No, you got to call somebody.

Yeah, no, you can't do it in.

Store.

You can't do it in store.

You have to call the Middle East

to cancel this, please.

Yeah.

It's like a gym membership, you

can never cancel those.

Either it's kind of like hotel

cancellations.

There's no reservation.

Like you, you order you, you you

know, you order your room or

whatever, and then you realize,

oh, man, I got the date wrong or

something like that.

And you call the council.

I'm sorry, no refunds.

OK, But I'm in a real pinch.

Who do I need to call?

Well, we don't have your credit

card number.

Well, who does?

You charge the card?

Somebody did.

Yeah.

You need to call here.

And you call there and I say,

oh, no, you need to call the

hotel.

I'm like, Oh my God.

I just did this.

Yeah, yeah.

You didn't buy this for us.

You bought it from a third party

down the 4th party Rd.

The website.

Yeah, and they start throwing

you around.

Sorry, Sir, you booked that

through Kyle.

It's like, no, no, it's even

worse than that.

Like if you book, if you book it

through Marriott, right?

And it's a Sheridan.

You call Sheridan, they say no,

you got to call the Direct Line

of Marriott.

You call Marriott, they say no,

you got to call the hotel

Sheridan.

That's what they do, round and

round.

And round there we.

Go.

It's like, what are we?

What?

No.

What are we doing here?

Like I just taking it for 500.

That's what we're doing.

Like wow, crazy stuff you.

Want to know what I just found

out though?

I mean, it's sort of related

because we got the new Wi-Fi

service.

It makes you.

Oh, you got AT and?

T yeah, we went to the 18th

Anything first spectrum is a

pain in the ass when you try to.

Oh my God.

Oh my Lord, the guy was like,

you realize that they get hacked

all the time?

Oh, he was talking.

Smack.

Yeah, he's talking smack about

AT&T.

That's awesome.

But when the guys are hooking up

my new AT&T, he goes, well, what

was the name and the password

for your for your Spectrum

router?

So I told him he goes if we make

it the exact same name, you

don't have to reprogram

everything.

Right.

Yeah.

For all the other yeah, I didn't

know that because I, you know, I

expect to spend the rest of the

night hooking up all the TV's

and everything, doing all the

codes and stuff.

So he did that and I'm like, ho,

that was so.

Nice.

That was awesome.

That was nice.

He went right to the problem,

right?

You know what I mean?

Instead of, you know, treating

the the.

Right, instead of telling me,

you know, OK here's your new

name, it's you know your

password is IP daily.

Right.

Oh IP daily.

That is the name of a Wi-Fi

router from one of my neighbors.

Nice.

He watches The Simpsons.

I guess, yeah, I don't know.

Is that where that's from?

Yeah.

It's funny when you go to look,

you know, and it pulls up all

the routers that it can pick up

in the area and all the funny

names on it, Yeah.

So you remember when Bart used

to call MO at the Tavern?

MO's Tavern?

Yeah, that was one of them.

Mr. Daly, Mr. IP Daily.

Hold on, hold on.

Let me find him.

Let me find him for you.

Hold on a minute, Mr. IP Daily

here.

Isn't it the IP?

Daily.

Wait a minute.

Hold on now that's a hard voice

to.

Do can't do that anymore?

No, no.

I could do it.

Oh, by the way, I found out what

I have.

That's why all the coffin's

gone.

Aids AIDS COVID.

Wow, straight to the aids you

guys didn't even like, you know,

worm your way down.

There Did something happen when

you were ball shaving somebody?

Yeah.

Wow, what do you got?

That bronchitis.

I like AIDS.

It's funny the.

AIDS is way better.

Yeah, so the aids, huh?

Wow, that's.

Too bad, can't believe you have

aids.

Wow, that's OK, It's not a death

sentence anymore.

That's no he already.

It's full blown for him.

Oh, I'm very.

Sorry, yeah.

Should have taken that pill

where they do that commercial

where all those guys are hugging

each.

Other in the commercial.

I don't know what commercial

that is.

Yeah, there's a pill.

Yeah, there's a pill.

Where all the guys are hugging

each other.

Yeah, well, yeah.

You know, they're, they're

happy.

They're very happy, man.

Is it Cialis?

No, no, not that kind of pill.

No.

It would have solved the

problem.

You wouldn't have what you have.

Right, so are we saying aids are

from just men hugging each

other?

And we're saying that there's a

commercial.

Saying there is a.

We're saying that there's a

commercial.

Where these guys are very happy

and some are dancing, some are

at party, some are having

coffee.

Yeah.

And they talk about this pill

that you take that keeps you

from getting that thing you

have.

And that's all we're saying.

That's all we're saying.

So don't read into them.

Yeah, you evil man.

But I'm sure they would like

your manscaping services, yeah.

Yeah, it might be how we got the

aids.

They are looking for a marketing

manager by the way, if anybody's

interested.

How would you know that?

Landscaping, the Manscape

company.

Oh, really?

Remember, because we, we were

sponsored by them for a small

time there.

Yeah.

Was that a real sponsor or was

that a made-up one?

No.

No, that was a real sponsor.

They sent us two kits that we

used and talked about on the

air.

Yeah, that was all they gave us.

That's all they gave us, yeah.

Years ago.

Years.

Ago.

Well, look at where they're at

now.

Right now they're hiring a whole

marketing manager.

Yeah, you're welcome.

You're welcome.

That's right.

Want to come back on as a

sponsor, you know that will take

right Skip.

That's the kind of Skip said.

We should get that kind.

Something like that.

Yeah, something like that.

All right.

Many experts believe that one to

two solid bowel movements per

day is often associated with

better gut health.

Focusing on having a routine

that feels comfortable,

predictable and easy.

Bowel movement should pass

without excessive straining and

leave you feeling empty

afterwards.

You feel empty afterwards.

I feel empty inside all the

time.

Well, yeah, I understand, but

that's your heart, not your tum.

Tum If you're going fewer than

three times per week,

experiencing hard stools, pain,

or excessive straining, it's a

sign that got Constipation.

At the end of the day, the

healthiest time to poop is

whenever your body naturally

tells you it's time to go.

East Time.

East Time.

First cigar and some coffee.

Oh, these cigars and coffees

don't make me go.

Maybe the coffee makes me go in

the morning, I don't know.

Weird.

Must make my dogs go too because

they go first thing in the.

Morning, their coffee.

Yeah, it must be their coffee

too.

It's weird.

Yeah, All right, this past

Thursday, because today is

technically Monday.

Yeah, marks the 10 year

anniversary of the death of

Harambe.

Oh, really?

At the Cincinnati Zoo.

Yes, it was an incident that

sparked global attention and

change Mikey's life forever.

It's already been 10 years.

It's been 10 years.

I know.

It just seems like it was really

in 2016, a three-year old boy

climbed through a barrier and

fell into the gorilla.

Exhibit video showed the 17 year

old silverback dragging the

child through the water inside

the enclosure.

Zoo officials made the decision

to shoot and kill Harambe,

saying they believe the boy's

life was in danger.

I think the kid would've been

OK.

I don't think so.

Yeah, I mean, he just dragged

him over like he was taking to

take care of him.

Like oh, I need a boy hurt.

I take.

Care.

No, I don't think.

I think you're just going to go.

I think it's very easy for it to

do that in an instant and you

don't know.

That's true, Yeah.

The child survived with minor

injuries.

Cincinnati's Guerrilla World

reopened more than a year after

the incident with several

changes in place.

They made all these safety

changes so that a child would

not get through the barriers

again.

Years later, the gorillas name

lives on.

It does.

Mikey, do you remember where you

were when you first heard the

news?

I was on the Square House's

podcast.

Oh, where we oh, did we cover

that?

Originally, Are you sure that

was 10 years ago?

Yes.

Isn't that the reason why you

got the whole?

Statue.

Oh, if it's ten years ago, we

couldn't.

Have covered on the show I

wasn't.

There.

I I don't know where I was.

Oh.

Yes, I remember.

How did how did your people take

the news?

Me and the rest of the gorillas,

yes.

You and the rest of the

gorillas.

We were upset, we were upset.

I'm sure it was a hard.

Day we felt like better security

messages could have, you know,

avoided.

This right?

It could have been avoided,

obviously.

However, we knew that what had

to be done had to be done.

Did you attend the funeral?

Me and the rest of the gorillas

did attend the funeral.

What do you wear to a gorilla

funeral?

This is interesting.

Well, you're already in.

You already have the black on,

right?

Yeah, so.

Oh, that's why you wear the

black shirt.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, that makes sense.

Yeah.

So it's you don't really have to

dress up.

Tire no time.

It's a no tie.

Yeah, it seems like it would be

a casual type thing, yeah.

It's casual, yeah.

Well, as opposed to a black tie

event, yeah.

Yeah, I don't have to wear my

tux.

So I heard you gave a speech at

the celebration of life for

Harambe.

I did.

Do you remember what you said?

To you.

I have part of it here.

Is that the most touching part?

Yeah, yeah, Go ahead.

Oh, OK.

It was very that was a very

touchy.

Part of that, yeah, that was,

yeah, that was right in the

middle, yeah.

And.

Yeah, that was what I ready is.

They brought a little bit of a

tear.

That was a very emotional time

for me.

Yeah, I imagine.

Yeah.

I didn't take it.

Too.

Well, is that when you stopped

doing the cereal?

For a brief period of time,

yeah.

Because I heard the two of you

used to eat cereal.

We were.

We were cereal buddies, right?

Yeah.

That's too bad.

Yeah.

All right, I have a video.

Do you?

Yes.

This is not the standard video

portion of the show, but for the

next story a video is

appropriate though.

So hold on, I've got to find our

thing.

It should be the top if you use

it.

There it is.

I believe it is this.

One trim this a little bit.

Oh wait, that's not it.

Wrong.

One.

Oh my God.

Wrong.

One where you texted me last

night about the start of the

show.

I have so many videos on my

phone, I'm sorry.

This is cap cut rockets.

Oh, here we go.

Oh, Cordova Morales, the Cordova

Morales event, yes.

I'm good.

You can see when you see the

original video, you can see why

there was confusion.

OK, that's it.

So they went to launch another

rocket over at the Space Coast

the last day or so.

The Blue Origin.

Where's the remote?

The Blue Origin New Glinton

rocket experience an anomaly

during a ground test known as a

hot fire Thursday.

So it was last Thursday, the

company shared on X Video

captured from the Cape Canaveral

Space Force Station in Florida

Thursday evening appears to show

a rocket exploding on its

launchpad.

All personnel are accounted for

and safe, said Jeff Bezos, Blue

Origins founder, said in a

separate ex post.

It's too early to know the root

cause, but we're already working

to find it.

Very rough day, but we will

rebuild.

Whatever needs to rebuilding and

get back to flying.

It's worth it.

This has to be billions.

Listen man, look, if I need a

comb today, I'll call Amazon.

Right.

Right.

I'm not looking for Jeff to get

us into space.

This is just ridiculous.

That is, stay in your lane.

Yeah, like what?

No.

Yeah, yeah, just stay in your

lane.

I'm not surprised.

Books and Combs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If I run out of my vitamin D and

I need it tomorrow morning pre

8:00 AM, I'm calling, I'm

hitting the button.

Right.

Space question mark, you know,

this is this is ridiculous.

So now what?

Now we have 3 people, we have

NASA, we have Bezos, and we have

a Musk.

We just got the one guy.

It's not even close.

No, I mean, we have three people

though that are trying to do.

It I understand, but there's one

that's clearly above the other

two.

NASA No.

Oh, the Elon.

Yeah, I guess it's not clearly

above the other two.

It's not clearly.

Yeah, you think the.

People the government has doing

it would be.

SpaceX, I mean, you knew that

they were, They weren't messing

around when all of a sudden the

rocket came in and it landed

straight back on, right?

It's like OK.

OK, right.

We don't have to look for these.

Yeah, right.

You know what?

Here's what.

How about I just put it back on

the launchpad after like Oh OK

that sounds like a great idea.

Has Bezos launched anything

successful?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He put the women in space,

remember?

Yeah, but they didn't really.

I mean they like went up and

came right back.

Now, and they pretended to come,

they like they had to reshoot

it, right?

And then somebody leaked the

fact that they reshot it.

Oh, did they I?

Don't.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it this is.

Well, if I'm Jeff, you got to go

the other way.

Like, let's go to the bottom of

the ocean.

Oh, because nobody's doing.

There's minimal.

Competition.

Well, somebody tried that.

Oh, it's right.

Not with, Not with Basil's

money.

Oh.

Yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean?

Like Go.

Just yeah, just don't do the

carbon fiber something.

Like, why are you going to punch

into Elon?

I don't understand it.

He's not.

He's not at that level in my

opinion.

You don't think so?

No.

Is he money wise?

Is it the same?

Oh yeah, but that's.

Not, you know.

I have all this money, what am I

going to?

Do go to the bottom of the

ocean.

I want to go to outer space I.

Think it'd be way cooler if he

went to the bottom of the ocean.

I mean, you could die either

way, so you know, it's not like

1's less dangerous.

At least at least if your boat

blew up, no one would really

know.

About as bad as a Cape Canaveral

looks like.

I mean an.

Atom bomb exploded.

Yeah, there was people at the

beach like going ah, you can

feel the heat.

I'm.

Sure.

That video, the guy at the end

goes, we're going to feel he

goes, wait for it, there it is.

Wow.

I think it's actually probably

harder to go to the bottom of

the ocean than the space.

Yeah, yeah.

Probably so.

So.

Plus, we know there's monsters

in the ocean.

Yeah.

And then think he can deliver

stuff down there after he's

done, you know what I mean?

Yeah, he can take care.

Of action sitting on the bottom

of the he could.

Figure that out.

That would be great.

That'd be great for everybody.

Right.

Well, I mean, Elon Elon's is

called what's the name of his

company in space?

SpaceX.

If it's called SpaceX, that

means there is no NASA 'cause

that's what they turned into.

SpaceX is the government.

No.

No government is NASA.

Yeah.

No, no, they SpaceX is now part

of the military.

That's Space Force.

Oh, Space Force, sorry.

Something's completely

different.

It was yes.

Yes, space is in both names.

Yeah, exactly.

You know what happened with that

peanut butter Jelly sandwich you

had like a sugar spike, right?

Ain't.

No, no, it wasn't a peanut

butter Jelly sandwich.

I thought it was a hamburger.

He had a cheeseburger.

No, it was just, it was a, if

you must know.

Yeah.

It was a Little Debbie's.

It was a slice of cauliflower

crusted goat cheese chicken

pizza.

No it wasn't.

It was from Blaze.

What is Blaze?

It's make your own pizza place.

That sounds like the place where

you get AIDS.

I didn't want to say it, so not

only so wait a second.

Not only did he make his own

pizza, he chose cauliflower.

And what else here.

Cauliflower gas goat cheese,

Yeah.

Crust Chicken.

And chicken.

Wait, you have to make your own

when you go there?

Yeah, it's like one of those

places.

Like, you know how that's the

new thing?

Everybody goes down, you pick

what you want on your pizza.

You can pick the crust they have

like a pasta place like that

they have.

I'm always not aware that people

go out to dinner and cook their

own.

Food yes, we've gotten rid of

the chef then I.

Mean there's still somebody that

cooks it.

So like the.

You just pick.

Everything.

Not hot pot, but.

Korean Korean hot pot.

Well, no, not that one.

Melting pot.

Melting pot?

Yeah.

Where you go there and cook your

own food.

You cook.

Everything in soup. $75.

Yeah, that's different.

Like you actually, you know, put

everything on the screw and you

cook.

It OK, so this place more like a

buffet pizza place.

You you where?

I say I would like this.

It's like Chipotle.

Yeah, that was gonna say

Chipotle.

Give me some queso, a little

more chicken.

Right.

Yeah, it's like Chipotle.

Yeah, for.

Me or like SpaceX, you know?

Right.

They didn't have like, dough,

pizza dough, a regular dough.

What?

Did you say no they do no.

They have like 5 different.

What made you pick cauliflower?

Yeah, I've tried that.

It's good and it gets it gets

more crispy it.

Gets crispier.

I have cauliflower pizza all.

The time, the bread longer.

I have cauliflower pizza all the

time.

Yeah, it's conveniently like

Costco has a good one.

I'm just curious as to why Phil

here Yes would have chosen.

Right, the healthiest man alive.

You know what I mean?

That's not his I.

I would never have assumed that

that was his goat, right?

Yeah.

But now I see the logic of the

crispiness.

I like Blaze pizza.

OK, so it's between here and

Daytona, apparently.

No, they, I mean they have

Winter Park has one.

Yes, but where did you go to it

today?

Oh, I was in Daytona, Yeah.

Yes.

So in the crunch time to get

here, you thought I should stop

and get a?

Pizza, let me grab a slice.

It wasn't a you said 1:00.

And you were late.

By what, a couple minute?

Like a minute or two.

If you had not stopped, those

couple of minutes would have

been early.

Good point.

We're at crunch time today,

buddy.

This is the toughest day of the

month.

It's his time of the month.

Yeah, right.

All right.

Updates.

You remember the the California

party mom from last year?

No, the lady, the mayor or

whatever.

Yes.

Who threw the party?

And had sex with the boy and

then the boys told his

girlfriend.

The girlfriend told her new

boyfriend.

Nice thing.

You know, she's in jail, right?

All right.

California party mom story from

last year.

A judge has sentenced the San

Francisco by area mother to 35

years.

Oh my.

God after her conviction for a

slew that you slew.

In the story, a slew of crimes

resulting from hosting drunken

sex parties for young teenagers.

That's more time than did he

got.

Widely known as the Los Gatos,

Party mom is what they call her

in prison.

Cats.

The cat party mom they call her

in prison, a nickname that

referenced her hometown. 52 year

old Shannon O'Connor was

convicted of four dozen crimes

in March, including child

endangerment, dissuading

witnesses from reporting a crime

and facilitating forcible sexual

assault.

She got sentenced for 35.

Years. 35 years and that's the

maximum allowed.

She has to register as a sex

offender if she makes it up.

OK, whatever that that's fine.

She's.

Going to be what, 7080?

Yeah.

Now you remember we saw pictures

of her at the time and she used

to wear a bikini and she was,

you know, for an attractive one

of her age.

She's not aging well in in her

incarceration.

I didn't even recognize her at

first.

I thought it was somebody

different.

Well, I'm sure they don't give

her makeup or anything and.

Well, I mean, apparently the

food's a lot better.

And there's no working out in

the female prison.

Like in a male prison, there's

no workout facilities because

she has gotten a little a little

more robust.

Little plumper.

Little plumper.

Apparently they don't let her

color her hair in prison because

it is very streaky.

It's almost brown now where it

was blonde before.

And yeah, she's she's not.

Maybe they got the wrong one.

Does the sentence match by your

for your opinion, does the

sentence match the the crime?

I don't it is the maximum they

could give her.

They couldn't give her any more

possible and.

I don't I, I.

Mean, but well, I mean I.

Don't remember this.

That's what our judicial story,

our judicial system sets up as

well.

This is if you do this, you get

this.

Did he's getting a couple years.

Yeah, but he's rich and he's

famous and he has a probably a

lot better at.

Tossing, yeah, but he So what

you're saying is.

But he but his charges.

Were saying yeah.

Yeah, his charges should have

been way.

Worse and he and does I I'm not

familiar, did he ever get

accused or found guilty of

anything involving?

Children.

How the hell should I know?

You give me the news.

Well, I that's maybe it would

stick out more in your mind

because I read a lot of news

that we don't cover.

So there's more news in my head.

Oh, not to my knowledge.

I don't know.

The judge said this isn't some

fun parent giving sips of wine

spritzers to kids, said Santa

Clara is.

The District Attorney Jeff Rosen

wrote in a statement.

She facilitated dangerous and

drunken SEC sex acts with these

children.

Dangerous.

She risked their lives and

damaged their psyches.

She is not a party mom.

Shannon O'Connor is a convicted

felon.

Shannon O'Connor is a registered

sex offender, he says.

This guy does not like this

lady.

He's a District Attorney.

This is the type of case that

makes a man's career.

Maybe, maybe one of his kids

were involved.

I bet you the guy the guy.

She turned him down.

I bet you the kid that he slept,

she slept with.

I bet you he feels terrible now

too.

Yeah, but it sounds like

multiple.

What she, you know, think he had

a good time?

No, I mean, you know, probably

I, I, I would assume that he did

now, but now she's stuck 35

years, right?

How do you think that affects

him?

Yeah, now he's got to find a new

one.

Think he's waiting on her?

I'll wait for.

You no, I don't think that's the

case at all.

But you got, you know, he gave

out the Intel.

Right.

It's not like she's doing, I

don't even know, Like, what do

you think would be the

unacceptable punishment for

this?

Yeah, I know.

That's just it.

I mean, if it's not the maximum,

is it the minimum?

I don't know.

What the minimum.

Just give her a slap of the

race, then go bad.

You should not have been

drinking with the children.

I don't know.

What do you think, Phil?

Are we talking about drinking

alcohol with children?

She drank alcohol with children,

then she had sex with one of the

children, and then she tried to

convince them not to say

anything.

OK but you say 1 of the

children, like how old is this

kid?

Yeah.

Is he a teenager, 19?

171617 years old, he's in that

range.

He's not an you know, it wasn't

a five year.

Old, right?

But you see, there's a big

difference in using that word

children, right?

In the law's eyes, he was a

child.

And I, I mean, look, I would

still argue the fact that he's

extremely young and he's and

he's a kid, right?

I would say that, but but I

don't know, I feel like the term

adolescent would probably be

more appropriately used in the

scenario instead of instead of

labeling this, yeah, like a pedo

or something.

It doesn't.

Yeah, because it's not like the

kid was like 9.

Yeah, right, Right.

You know what?

I.

Mean now if he was sober maybe a

little different, but supposedly

he was drunk and didn't know

what he was doing.

I mean, look, I'm OK with the

punishment, right?

35 years seems a bit.

Yeah, maybe like maybe like 3

years, five years.

Yeah, it sounds like there was

multiple children.

OK.

So maybe there's again with the

children, multiple adolescents.

There you go, that's.

Better, maybe there's other

stories we didn't follow or hear

where there was other parties

where this also happened.

I got news for you.

If it happened one time, I would

assume that that kid said to the

other ones.

You're not going to believe what

Jimmy's.

Mom did like there were other

parties where Jimmy's mom did

this with other adolescents.

Right, so, but you're not

following me.

Jimmy's mom does yadda yadda,

right?

And then that kid goes around

and says you're not going to

believe this.

Oh sure, she gave it up.

When's the next party?

Is what they're on right?

I love Kool-aid.

Right.

These are great, Jimmy.

Can we come to the party too?

Oh yeah, dude, you're my best

friend, right?

Right.

So you know I.

Don't know if I'm Jimmy and I

find out I'm like, I don't have

any more parties, mom.

My mother's been ridden harder

more than Seattle's Slew.

What's going on?

Mom, all the kids are talking

about at your school apparently

get very popular.

Yeah, Oh, honey, that's so.

Nice.

So look, I mean, go ahead.

Go ahead, Phil.

There's been, I mean, there's

been some people that have

committed murder that have gone

off with less, yeah, time.

Well, did they kill a child?

Did they kill an?

Did they?

They killed somebody.

It doesn't matter who.

Maybe they were bad.

People.

Dude, wild wild. 35 years.

Well, well, probably what's

happened though, why she got 35

years is there's probably

multiple accounts which maybe

added 235.

Yeah, feel like you get 7 years

for every adolescent you had sex

with and there was five of them.

Yeah, you know, like they count

pills, right?

Could be 7 years for every pill.

And she's got several.

I mean, they said there's dozens

of crimes that she has

committed.

So maybe that maybe it just all

added up.

Yeah.

You know.

And California's not a great

place, so they definitely had it

with a book.

Yeah, it seems like California

be the place.

Like, OK, you, you ran over some

ice foot.

That's a year and a half.

Yeah, you know.

You breathe in smog.

Right, that's another two.

Years, Jimmy and.

Bobby said they both went first,

so we're confused.

So that's eight years for each

one.

And you're giving not healthy

snacks to the kids.

That's 10 years.

For each snack.

So you know, I'm sorry, can we

get a grand total, please?

Carry the one, carry the 235

judge.

We got 35 going back here. 35

years it is. 35 years it is

guilty.

California prisons are So I just

asked a question, are California

prisons at capacity and Chad,

Google, whatever Chad GBT says

California State prisons are

technically over their original

design capacity, but they

operate well within the

federally mandated population

limits.

A lot of bad people in

California.

As of 2026, the overall adult

prison population hovers around

121% of design capacity.

That's wild.

So you're thinking maybe she

should not be in there because

her crime is not as bad as, say,

this murder person that Phil

knows?

Yeah, no, I'm not saying I'm

I'm.

I'm just saying that 35 years

seems a bit excessive.

Oh.

And and it's and if, if, if I'm

going to draw the conclusion

that this is excessive in this

scenario, there's probably a lot

of scenarios where the

sentencing.

Does.

Is extremely excessive in

California.

Maybe this is one of those

judges that likes to do the the

limit. 50 years but but it was a

parking ticket.

Doesn't matter.

Yeah, you're done.

You're done.

My jurisdiction or

jurisprudence?

Or it is my noble right?

There's a lot of, there's a lot

of people that are, you know,

miss.

Appropriated Miss.

Acute, whatever you want to call

sense miss sentenced.

Yeah, that's why they have they

have all those groups.

In jail for crimes they didn't

commit.

There was a football player that

just got out that was like that

he was in.

He was in prison for like 12

years or something like that.

For something he didn't do and

now they have new technology and

the DNA says he was in a

different state.

Well, actually it was about DNA.

They said he killed somebody.

Sir, you were doing 46 and a 45.

Do you have anything to say of

yourself?

No, Sir, I'm very sorry. 30

years in prison.

And.

Prima nocte.

Where is his wife?

Tis my noble What?

Bring her here.

Bring her here.

Oh no.

Are we going to a castle?

No, we're going behind the shed.

In my chambers.

In my chambers.

Soundproof.

Got to hear that's a problem.

And now we've just linked it to.

Yesterday's show, last week's

show, last week on See, it's not

easy.

All right, Michael, you got a

video?

No, I had that blow up thing.

I was going to do that.

Oh, you beat me to it.

Yeah.

Oh sure, you just saying that

because I had a video.

Maybe.

All right, we're on the Cigar

news.

El Mago Ships Collectible 10

series Jug in cavalry.

Did we end up picking this up?

I know Greg was very hot on this

brand.

El Mag Hi, we're doing a show

over here.

Dude I'm looking at severe

weather going into this.

Oh, it's going to storm all

evening and.

Championship game, man.

Yeah, it's supposed to do an ice

cream walk.

I'm not doing it.

Can't you just do it in your

car?

Ice cream walk.

Why are you walking with ice

cream you just ate?

Is that why you had the

cauliflower pizzas?

You could have ice cream later.

No, this is an ice cream walk

later in downtown DeLand.

How many ice cream stores stores

are in DeLand?

I don't know.

Greg has talked about El Mago.

Yeah, we've had them in the

path.

But we pick it up because this

was kind of neat.

They're little tins of cigars.

We we're not carrying them yet.

Oh, El Mago Cigars is shipping

the 3rd and 4th edition, so the

company's collectible tin

series.

The third release is.

The series is named Jug A5 by 50

Box Press Robusto, made with

Mexican San Andreas wrapper and

an Ecuadorian binder and filler

blend of Nicaraguan tobacco.

The 4th edition is named

Calvary.

It's also about 5 by 50 box

Press Robusto with a blend that

uses a Corojo wrapper from some

country we're not going to say,

and binder and fillers grown in

the Dominican Republic and

Nicaragua.

Both the releases have an MSRP

hub.

It's a 10.

It's a 10.

It's a 10 of how many cigars 5.

5 count 10 for Bustos cigars.

Boots.

Phil, Phil AZ Phil. 50 bucks.

Wait, it's per cigar we're

looking for here.

Oh OK, I thought you wanted a

total of the 10. $10. $14.00.

You went the wrong way $11.00, I

went.

I went the wrong way.

Yep, I went.

He said ten, It was 11.

You went 14.

You would have said I went the

right way.

You went the right way too far.

Thank you.

The cigars are made at the MGE

cigar Factory in Esta Lee and

are limited to just 1000 of

these little tents per blend.

El Mango's Collectible 10 series

debuted in March with the OY AM

AO Yama Oh Yama Oh Yama Omen and

the Mr. Almond Oh Yama Oh Yama

Omen.

He's oh, Yama.

What should we name it?

Oh Yama Omen.

And then maybe Mr. Mr. Almond.

And then Calvary, right?

You know, let's just throw

Calvary in there.

Cordy Denig, founder of El Mongo

Cigars.

The company is committed to

releasing at least seven

different blends and collectible

10 series, but it is possible

that additional cigars could be

added to the line.

In an e-mail, Andre Sanchez,

national sales director for El

Mago Cigars, told Half Wheel the

first wave of both new releases

is shipping to randomly selected

groups of S tier accounts, which

is in by only network of fewer

than 40 retailers.

I guess we're not on that list.

No.

Whatever.

All right, What?

OK.

Crux is shipping the Marblehead

Maduro to stores June 1st.

Oh, do you know that they have

their own proprietary cap now

called the Marblehead?

They've had it for a while.

Well, yes, but I just found out

about it with this story.

You just discovered that?

I just discovered it.

A new wrapper option for Crux

Cigars Marblehead line will

start shipping to retailers next

week.

The Crux Marblehead Maduro is

made by the Mexican San Andreas

wrapper covering in an internal

blend of Nicaraguan tobacco.

And we were talking last night

on the on that, on the OTG

podcast.

We did Connecticut, then it

seemed like everybody started

making Connecticut.

We did San Andreas.

Now it seems like everybody's

making San Andreas.

So we've done Sumatra.

So now we are expecting

everybody to start.

You think that they're all where

we are, the trendsetters?

That's the way I implied it last

night, yes.

I like the way you think.

And you're right.

We are.

We are, yeah.

But hey, listen.

And Postagna's number 2 on half

wheel for a reason.

You guys can make everything,

but we're always going to be

worse than padrone.

Slightly better than padrone.

And until you can say that

Postagna reigns champion, right?

Like the first Marblehead blend?

Oh yes.

You're correct.

Sorry.

Thanks.

Thanks, Phil.

Yeah, you don't like yes, man,

remember?

So you're correct.

Right.

I didn't want to say yes because

you don't like yes man.

It's not a yes man thing.

If you say something you want

me, you look at me, you want me

to say yes, you're right.

That's being a yes, man.

No, it's like if I made a cigar

for you and you thought it was

terrible and you said, oh, I

like it.

That's a yes, man.

Well, don't.

Well, isn't that the same idea

as you say something I might not

necessarily agree, but I.

Say so you don't agree?

That's not what I said.

You don't agree the post I.

Don't want.

I don't want people to think I'm

just being a yes man.

OK, well then I but I need to

hear, do you agree or do you not

agree?

With the fact that people think

I'm a yes man.

No that postonia is slightly

better than padrone, but

slightly.

Worse than?

I think that's been proven, yes.

You know what, Why don't we get

a couple of those and smoke

them?

You know, just to see.

So he's looking for the free.

The Postonas.

I smoke the Postonas every day.

So do I, yeah.

Yeah, but you're asking us?

It was raining last night.

I could not smoke during the

show.

What are you doing in the rain?

No, I did it in my office at

home because I didn't want to

sit outside in the rain.

You don't have a party, I have a

patio.

No, I have a potty.

Yeah, I have a potty, but I want

to smoke in the potty.

Why?

Don't you smoke in the potty?

I don't want to smoke in the

potty.

OK, That's in the house.

I'm about to smoke in the house.

OK.

But I had certain cigars to

show.

I'm sorry, this is kind of off

subject.

I had certain cigars that I had

so I could show.

And then they they address the

comments in the show.

Quite often people would say

things that were like, like, I

set this up like somebody said,

are you guys ever going to come

out with a budget line of

cigars?

Oh, well, by the way, smoke

this.

Trust me, right?

Somebody said, you know, it

would be great if you made a

Sumatra, San Andreas, Barbara

Pole.

Oh, I had this.

A Sumatra.

San Andreas, Barbara.

Pole and then what the the new

SBC?

I might be saying it wrong.

Maybe.

I think it is you're.

Very wise.

So I had, I had that hand.

He pulled that out so well.

Let's see, they're shipping

these Marbleheads of stores.

You're just an amazing.

Person it's just, I mean, I was

just laughing at like what?

And I go, it's like I planned

this.

I don't know who that guy is,

but perfect.

Here's this one.

Let's talk about this for a

minute.

Oh, that guy's obviously

entrenched into the Postagna.

Yes, he knows.

Well, you know, with the code

names it's really hard to tell

who somebody is anyway.

Right.

I mean, I feel like we know who

Rakus Unchained is.

Well, that's your mother,

obviously.

That's who we say, but obviously

I think that we know.

I, I, I just assume it's your

mother.

I don't know who it is.

She's not Unchained.

We keep her you.

Keep her chained.

I don't think you keep her

chained.

We.

Keep her in check.

Who do you think Records

Unchained is?

No idea, but I feel like we know

them.

Oh, I well, the one guy last

night said he met me at an event

at a certain shop and I was a a

very nice man and he seemed like

I know what I'm talking about.

And I don't remember who he was.

I mean, there's people we run

into all the time.

There's no way to remember.

And then it's not like, you

know, it's not like it, said

Bob, the guy you met at Holy

smokes.

You need to remember these

people.

By the weird names they make as

their handles on yard on yard

guard or whatever it's called.

Yard guard, Yeah.

Mm hmm yard something.

It was the yard 1.

I don't.

How am I supposed to know what

those are?

Yard duck?

No, not yard duck.

But I think there is a duck on

it though on their logo.

Duckyard.

Ducky Duck.

Yardy Duck.

Ducky Duck.

Hardy Duck.

I don't know.

I mean team money.

At least he's called team money

everywhere.

So you know who?

Yeah.

Consistently team money.

Yeah, at least he's consistently

team money.

So the ship of this thing is

made of tablical era pages day

and Nicaragua essay.

The original line uses a dark

Ecuadorian Colorado Habano

wrapper.

What's Colorado Habano?

A different type of Habbano,

Yeah.

It's grown in Colorado.

There are two sizes, both

shipping and 20 count clear PVC

bundles, each containing four or

five pack bundles.

As with the original Marblehead

line, retailers will also

receive a refillable 60 count

display tray.

This sounds very familiar.

No, no, that's how they've been

doing things.

They've been doing these tray

things for a while.

Yeah, I saw the.

I saw a picture of the tray on

the thing.

There's nothing new, no, in this

industry.

Right.

No, it's cigars, right?

See.

They're doing a Maduro Gordo.

How much is that?

16 by 60 single stick. 16 bucks.

14. 899 This is a budget lighter

is.

It a lighter.

Marblehead, Maduro, Toro 6 by

50. 7 bucks. 7:50. 799.

I win.

It's a penny less.

It's a dollar less.

It's a dollar less.

The other one was 8. 90. 890

carry the one subtract.

Yeah, put up, put up 8 fingers.

So is this long filler or long

filler?

Short filler.

Doesn't say.

Our goal with the Marblehead

Maduro was to create a cigar

that delivers premium Maduro

character at an exceptional

value, said Jeff Hogan, Co

founder of Crux Cigars, in a

press release.

This is a cigar that fits

perfectly into anyone's regular

rotation without sacrificing

quality or complexity.

The Marblehead name refers to

Crux's signature cap, which

debuted in 2014, and is a cross

between a Bellicoso and a

regular hat.

And a regular.

Hat, cap.

Sorry, Cap hat.

Well I mean it sounds like they

were close, but smokers trust

me. 660 Gordo, $8 MSRP buy 3 get

one free brings it down to 6

bucks long filler.

I don't know Bandit.

Your move, Casey.

Casey's not in there.

It's Jeff now.

Jeffsen charts.

Jeffsen charts.

Yeah, but I like Casey.

I like Casey, too.

Yeah.

And they have the cool screen.

Yeah, they do that at every

show.

That screen is awesome.

It's quite the crowd in there.

I know I want the screen.

We need a bigger screen.

I would be OK with a slightly

smaller screen.

We should just have just a tiny

screen.

Just go the other way, just go

the other direction.

We have a screen and we have a

screen now too.

It's a pretty cool screen and.

Then everybody has to huddle

together.

Yeah, yeah.

Gather around.

Gather around.

All right, War fighter tobacco

Company.

They're also shipping their 10th

anniversary San Andreas.

Everybody's doing that.

Man, everybody's doing it.

Look man, there's only a handful

of rappers you can do.

Well, why is everybody doing at

the same time?

Because normally crops are good

and then you can buy there's.

Like an exit.

Like, oh hey, look at all the

good San Andreas.

We should all jump on that

bandwagon.

This.

Year, it's not a it's not a jump

on a bandwagon.

It's like, oh, this is good,

right?

So we'll use this and then it's

different primings, different

things.

Like there's a whole different

fermentation isn't really a

bandwagon thing.

Nobody was doing it last year,

but now it's good, so everybody

wants to use.

It I know that you keep saying

that, but that's not the case.

It's like.

That's what you just said.

Maybe it's good with San

Andreas.

So now everybody wants to use

different primings and use the

San Andreas because it's good

this year.

You see what's?

Available pre industry and if

there's a bunch of it then maybe

you can get it and you get it at

a good price.

Everybody jumping on the

bandwagon used.

They're not really jumping on a

bandwagon.

I'm going to continue to say

this.

It's about.

Potato, Potato.

I think we're going to have to

agree to disagree.

It's not potato, Patama.

I know you're still hurting from

Harambe, but it's OK, it's over

with now.

No, it's been 10 years.

You know, you did the oh, oh,

uh, uh.

It's been 10 years, you know,

we're all good and I'm not.

I'm still not.

OK.

All right.

War Fighter Tobacco Company has

began shipping it's 2 new

releases from the PCA 2026.

Well, he's it's from the.

Everybody knows that the

tryptophan is in the.

Is in the pizza.

It's in the pizza.

It's in the cauliflower pizza.

Cauliflower's got tryptophan.

Is napping.

Napping, napping, napping.

Or maybe the mass is cut off,

the blood flow to his brain and

he's falling asleep.

I'm, I'm sorry, are we keeping

you?

Are we boring you?

No.

There's that, there's that.

AIDS.

No, it's that bronchitis.

So let's see, they're making a

650 tutorial that uses

Ecuadorian grown Sumatra seed

wrapper, a top, a Honduran

binder and filler.

Unlike many anniversary cigars,

this will be a regular

production release with

production handled by

Tablicalera Tabacolera Carrera

and that's Tabacolera Carrera.

The cigars in MSRP of I'm just

going to tell you guys going to

go right to Tabacolera 1275.

Well, a box of 20 cigars is 255.

Dollars.

We would have never got that

one.

Right, it's a war fighter.

So.

So we're just going to zip

through the 2nd cigar because

you know what it's time for.

Industry's favorite game What?

What's the?

Score.

July 10th, 2012 Patrick Lagreed

Cigars reviews the Casa de Monte

Cristo B56. 87. 85.

Cigar Review Cassa de Monte

Cristo B56 from the USA factory.

We don't know rapper, we don't

know Binder, we're not saying

filler Columbia and we don't

know 6 1/2 by 56.

Toro Gordo 1595 and they smoked

3.

So they tell you the fillers

from Columbia.

Yeah, one of the fillers is from

Columbia.

Columbia and undisclosed.

They don't tell you.

Yeah, I.

Don't know why they only told

you one of them.

They're trying to highlight it.

Oh yeah, there we.

Go 82. 85.

Let's see clue #1 the B56.

I'm sorry, OK?

The B56 delivered some

interesting flavor transitions,

moving from banana bread and

sourdough notes into bread crust

and charred meat flavors.

It wasn't overly strong, but it

offered a unique profile that

kept me engaged throughout the

smoke. 85.

Sort of tastes like cauliflower

pizza sounds.

Like no, this is like

cauliflower pizza.

Keeps you up though, which is.

Delicious 85.

That's what I said.

He doesn't listen.

Yeah, clue #2 construction was

outstanding.

The burn was nearly flawless

across all three samples.

Sorry, we're quite now.

I think I'm catching is

bronchitis requiring almost no

touch ups or relights for a

cigar.

Got his age?

Well, I let him trim my ball.

And now aids.

Now AIDS for the smoking time.

Because he nicked me.

He nicked me and then nicked his

hands.

That's how he rubbed them.

Together one star review.

Right.

I did not give him a good Yelp

review.

Yeah, cigar with a smoking time

approaching 2 hours, that's

impressive performance. 87.

It's not very chatty today. 85

I'm on medicine right now man.

What do you want?

It's making me a little tired.

What kind of medicine are you

on?

It's amoxicillin.

Antibiotic.

Yes.

Makes you tired.

I don't know, it's making me a

little tired.

Maybe that's from the large

pizza.

It's the tryptophan and the

cauliflower, I told you. 3rd and

final clue.

While the cigar had moments of

promise, the recurring sour and

occasionally bitter notes never

fully disappeared.

Oh, there's the whole time.

Combined with a lack of

complexity in depth compared to

the bahiki it aims to emulate.

Bahiki.

The experience ultimately fell

short of my expectations.

I'm very disappointed in you,

Cigar.

You did not fulfill your

obligation.

Sour through and through 79.

So they're trying to make this

tastes like a Cohiba, Yeah.

That sounds like it.

Like a bahiki, bahiki bahiki.

Yeah, 78.

Cover that tap and foot you're

wrapped around.

You're almost in the chords

there.

Final thought, this is the last

thing.

The thought the final one.

This is the last thing they're

going to say.

It tasted just like a Bahique.

It was amazing.

Going into the review, I

couldn't help but think that I

was going to be smoking a knock

off cigar or product, simply

trying to capitalize on the

success of the notoriety of the

Cuban Cohiba Bahique.

Despite a real effort to find

something in the cigar to prove

otherwise, I just couldn't.

I couldn't.

Just wasn't there.

Make no mistake about it, this

is no Bahique.

None of the three cigars left me

really wanting another one, and

if anything made me want to grab

something else to put a better

taste on my palate.

If you're looking for the

flavors of the Cuban Cohiba Bahi

gay, you're still better off

going with the Cuban Cohiba Bahi

gay.

If you think that by smoking the

B56 you'll get a good idea of

what the Cuban Cohiba Bahi gay

BHK 56 tastes like, you're wrong

and sadly disappointed.

That's it.

That's yeah.

I love the fact that the Gohiba

Bahike yes is a standout cigar

for him to think of.

Well, maybe he's smoking this.

I mean, it's obviously no, this

is from. 2012, yeah.

So at that point, that was when

that cigar kind of had its

hurrah day in the sun.

Yeah.

Oh day in the.

Sun, did you smoke that in 2012?

To Bahike.

He was seven.

I did.

You were 7.

Yeah, I was 7 he.

Was 7 then.

No, I did.

I smoked it.

And you liked it?

It's not worth it.

It wasn't bad.

It wasn't bad, yeah.

Because what are they like 100

bucks?

At that time, I can only imagine

what they are now.

Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness.

How excessive they would be now?

Well.

They're going to come down soon

because for the first state,

Cuba.

I I could just smoke one of

these.

I'm going to swing low on this.

With the banana bread stuff, I

like banana bread.

I'm a swing.

I'm a swing low on swing.

Low.

Sweet Cherry, I think you need.

I think you need a win.

I think you need a win.

You win most of the week.

No.

Oh sorry, my my apologies.

No, I think you need AI think

you could use a dub and I'm

going to stretch the feel a

little.

Bit he's sick, you know, with

the.

Yeah.

And his his ball trimming isn't

going.

Well, it's not going it's.

So you guys are pre fixing the

loss.

So that was very.

Bad Yelp reviews I read in this.

No, I just, I think I'm going to

take a shot here.

I'm going to take a shot.

Take it.

Take it, Take the shot.

It's up.

Here it comes.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's

coming.

It's up.

I don't know.

Kind of making this, it's hard

to take it, it's hard to take a

shot.

So wait, are you saying you're

taking a dive?

What I'm saying is like throwing

the game.

I think it did, I think it did

bad, and I can conservatively

pick a number I could.

I feel like I could pick like a

78 and win.

Right.

But I think that it's lower than

that.

Right.

So.

He hasn't said his yet, right?

No, no, yeah, I'm going first

this time.

So what I'm saying is like, if I

conservatively pick that number,

I think I'm going to win.

You're going to lob one up.

And that's just easy, right?

But.

Going to swing with your eyes.

I'm going to hit it lower.

How low do I want to go is a

question.

Do I go in the 60s?

Phil, what do you think?

Sounds like a shitty cigar to

me.

I would.

I would guess fifties, 60s,

yeah. 50s, sixties.

But this is who's the Raider?

He didn't talk about bad Patrick

Lagree.

If you said bad construction,

then I.

Oh, it's all flavor problems.

Patrick, Patrick's going to

probably be in the 70s, OK,

unfortunately.

All right, well, now, now you're

there.

OK, I'm going to go 73 higher or

lower.

What's it going to be, Phil?

God blink twice.

For what?

Higher.

Now I'm blinking it on.

Now I can't.

I just watched him blink.

Now I can't blink. 72.

Oh, he went lower.

Oh, he won.

No, it's 73.

That's why I'm doing this.

I'm like.

Go ahead, let's go to.

Local here.

No I really dude, that was just

luck of it.

That was his luck in the draw.

Remember, he's got 2020 vision.

Well, I know it's only so.

He stood up.

I can't see anything.

No, you can't.

From that angle.

I thought maybe because there's

glass.

There's nothing glass there that

I thought maybe from the side.

Or something.

No, can't from over there.

But it was so weird.

He's like, I'm going to say 78,

but I think I'm going to go

lower.

I don't know, maybe the exact

score that it is would be the

good one to say.

I mean, that was just luck,

because realistically I think

that without doing that whole

speech, I say 78 and I win and

he says 79.

Would you have said 79?

I would have no 'cause when he

was at he was already at like 70

something.

Weren't you before that?

No, no, you guys were all in the

80s.

I was in the 80s.

I was always going to.

I was always going to guess 1

lower than you is what I was

going.

To do so, whatever he said, you

were going one.

Less so that's the case then if

I had to pick 78 or 79 then.

He would have went 7. 7 And he

would have won.

Yeah.

And did you pick lower than me

or higher than what do you?

Pick Lower 72.

He went lower.

And I thought it was, I thought

that was a dub.

That was a bold move.

Very bold.

You're very bold, Princess

Peach.

Because I picked an older one

because the 1 today I thought,

well maybe they've been reading

the ones they're posting

recently because you guys have

been getting too close to the.

Who's been reading them?

I said I was thinking maybe it's

like maybe I shouldn't keep

doing the one they post that day

I.

Don't think we have time to read

these things.

Dude I'm I mean I changed in the

parking.

Lot, you know?

Yeah, I know.

I have some lovely photos.

It's great.

Oh, you took pictures?

Yeah, I had.

Photo.

Did you really?

No, I didn't.

Think so?

Yeah, he's going to have you

sign.

Them I didn't see you'd change

it.

I'm like you change your clothes

in a parking.

Lot, yeah, I don't have.

I mean, I just don't.

Have time now.

If you pay for the Patreon for

the full year, you get a signed

naked picture of Mikey.

A signed picture of Mikey in his

underwear.

Yeah.

By the way, Ben would like his

travel mug signed by the three

of us, so we're going to have to

do that before we ship.

Then Willhelm, he texted me last

night and I couldn't remember

what it was and he he started

with.

I'm sorry it's so late but.

OK.

All right.

Well, this wraps it up.

All right, guys.

This has been it.

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Show Notes

On todays show How many #2 is enough, its been 10 years and I still miss him, well that wasn’t suppose to happen?, we have an update!  Then in cigars we have a lot of shipping notifications and as usual we end the show with a what’s The Score!