ACHP Episode 542 Cigars, Judges and Turtles
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On today's show, a federal judge
ordered President Donald Trump's
name removed. 2 giant tortoises
became local celebrities for a
reason and no one expected FIFA
brings in, let's just say,
tourist dollars.
We are facing one of the largest
gender imbalances in Europe.
And in cigars, Bovida launches
Skipper.
We've got some shipping notices,
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And then as always, we have a
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Who wrote that?
ChatGPT.
I see.
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I know.
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Do you want me on it?
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Isn't she lovely?
OK, alright, at Bryce Field,
2489 says.
Unfortunately, every time I go
to Walmart, I get that bathroom
feeling.
Yeah, I get it, I get it.
He's a Walmart guy, you know?
Oh, and that's a terrible place
to have to go.
Yeah, great.
Triple G Do you ever?
Is there a particular store that
you walk into where as soon as
you walk in there you need to
take a poop?
No.
No.
No, I don't know.
I just if I have to go, I go.
It doesn't matter what store it
is.
No, no matter where.
No, No conditions.
No conditions, No special
quality of bathroom.
You have to be able to touch the
door, don't you?
Yeah, I don't like being far.
Yeah, I don't like being far too
far from the door.
Security issues, yeah.
Yeah, 'cause they're just coming
in to raid him while he's at the
toy.
You never know.
It's ridiculous.
It's awkward and embarrassing.
OK oh, oh, there it is.
B.
It's B OK, Bryce, stay away from
Walmart.
OK, at Data Cash 2004, says
Blaze, the subway of pizza.
OK, so I guess that answers what
Blaze is.
What It's a.
So they talk about Blaze.
Yeah, well, that's when Phil
went to Oh my God.
Dude.
Oh, when Phil went to Blaze for
the for the cauliflower, Yeah.
I don't listen to him when he's
on the show.
You know you're you're worse
than him.
He doesn't remember anything in
that.
Look at you.
It was four days ago.
No, it wasn't.
Friday, Monday, Tuesday or
Monday, Sunday, Saturday,
Friday.
Friday, Monday.
Tuesday.
I I love that you actually had
to bring out the fingers.
To figure out how many.
Days ago Friday.
Was I wasn't checking, I was
demonstrating.
Friday.
Today is Monday.
I think Lee, it's Tuesday.
Well for those that are going to
be viewing it, it will be yes,
but for you it was 2 days ago.
Yeah, no, four days data, Cash
also wrote the best restroom has
to be Bucky's.
OK, well, we didn't really ask
the.
Best.
Restroom was we just had their.
Stalls have full doors.
Really.
Well, it's not even that.
Like the hallway leading to the
stalls, they sell art.
Yeah, I was gonna say
everything.
It is very nice art too.
Oh that would look nice.
Have you ever purchased a piece
of art from Bucky's?
I have not no no I it came close
once I almost bought a cowhide
rug.
Oh, OK.
And would you hang that from?
Hall.
No, they it's not in that hall.
It's like in the general area,
the store by the Oakleys.
What made you change your mind?
What made you change your mind?
I feel like I could probably get
it for less than 250 bucks.
No, they're expensive.
They were expensive.
Yeah, wife too.
Had to have one.
It was $400.
Yeah.
Oh, maybe 250 is a deal, Yeah.
Maybe smaller?
Small cow.
Small cow.
Small cow.
Oh, would that solve your
problem with your wife wanting a
cow?
No, the rug.
No, she's still going to want a
cow, OK?
Would that intensify the problem
of your wife?
Probably she'd be constantly
reminded of it, yeah.
At Brett Mercurio says best Road
warrior poop hack, hotel lobbies
are cleaner than gas stations or
restaurants.
He's right.
That's true too.
Yeah.
Wow, that's smart.
If it's an upscale hotel, that's
smart.
What do you mean?
Like you know you like you
don't.
Go to like Motel 6.
What about like a Hampton Inn
is?
That could be OK you.
Can consider a Hampton Inn
upscale?
More than like a Motel 6 or a
Clarion or something.
Do you?
Where do you stay when you
travel Motel 6?
No, no.
Hampton or above.
Oh I tried that the first time
in the first hotel I was in.
Had roaches and 1 and smelled
like pot in the room.
Changed room 3 times in the
hotel.
I was like never again.
Greg and they all smelled.
Like all the roaches were
smoking marijuana that day.
Apparently they were.
Yes, it's a La Quinta.
At Jays 1911 says if Mike sweeps
the week with all wins, Phil has
to wear the entire costume
instead of just a mask.
Princess Peach costume.
Oh that would be fantastic.
Would be nice.
Yeah, I don't think they make
them that big.
They got to, they got, you know,
'cause you could just easily
shame company into that.
Like, hey, oh, you don't
acknowledge, you know?
Plus size models, yeah.
Right.
Yeah, they could be a plus size
Princess speech.
It could happen.
Ruckus Unchained is back.
Oh, it's your mom.
Yeah, your mom comments on the
show frequently.
She's a huge fan.
Big fan.
It hasn't make you?
I don't get it.
That's her name.
Ruckus and Jane, Yeah.
I don't get it.
Yeah.
We didn't make it.
That's just what it is.
Yeah, ask her about it.
The Bahique was 30 to 40 back
then in 2012, which was still
high at the time, but not nearly
as inflated as they are today.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
But you know, I think that if
you got it from somebody else
like retailer, whatever had to
get it, they probably charge you
a premium anyways, right?
Your mother's very informed on
the pricing for.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.
OK, Bruce Cox 8216 has
bronchitis.
Ain't nobody got time for that.
And he's correct.
We do not have time for that.
And I don't understand why Phil
was just sucking wind that day
because of his bronchitis.
So it was just kind of
obnoxious, you know?
No.
Think that's what's wrong with
him today.
No, he's just lazy.
Why is he not here?
He said.
He said he couldn't make it.
Yeah.
I mean, we put the show off
today waiting for him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the last minute, oh, I know
it's 1:00, but after the meeting
now I'm not going to make.
It yeah OK at my man C dub 6383
says poop schedules and coop
talk how fitting and you would
be accurate on that statement.
We've all been blocked now on
social media.
Yes, you were telling me this.
It's very interesting.
Yeah, it's look, look, that's a
that's a face of a defeated man.
Look at him.
Very sad.
Me.
Yeah, yeah, I'm.
Not sad that I'm blocked by.
Him, it's OK, It's OK.
Surprise, I noticed.
You did though.
But he can't block me from his
show apparently.
No, I cannot still watch him
make comments.
All right.
And the last one is.
Already know next time I'm going
to go.
Surprised I can see this.
I'm blocked on social media by
this man.
So weird, so strange.
Please continue.
At Steven Wells, wrote Mike.
I think that if instead of a 17
year old boy, your 7 year old
daughter was violated after
being purposely given too much
alcohol, 35 years of prison
would be the least of the other
person worries.
And you are 100% correct.
You are 100% correct that
without hesitation, Mr. Wells, I
cannot disagree with what you
were saying.
And I did consider that later on
I did kind of reflect.
I was like, you know, this is
the other way around. 35 years
isn't enough.
And that's so true.
That's so true.
How do you feel about that?
Phil Oh, we're talking about the
lady.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought we were.
Talking yeah, if it was the
other way around.
If it was the other way if if it
if she was a dude, right.
And she was doing that to a 17
year old boy or a 7 seven-year
old girl.
Excuse me?
Yeah, it would be a different.
Situation.
Oh my God, Yeah.
Oh yeah.
That's just much worse, right?
Right, Greg?
Yeah, No, I, I it's not right,
but it's right that we have a
different perspective when it's
male and female.
I think so too.
Yeah, yeah.
Justified.
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No, that's mine.
No, no, we're giving.
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I don't edit it to the show.
I know we're giving you.
Don't use it.
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It's never been used.
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the original run anymore.
Oh, and the cutter too.
You took out my Lord.
It's.
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OK, put it away.
Cool Gray your maximum
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Going to find that box empty
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He.
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Put it under my hand, it'd be
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Oh.
A federal judge ordered
President Donald Trump's name
removed from the Kennedy Center
for the Performing Arts, ruling
that the venue cannot be renamed
without congressional approval.
Is that true?
Can you?
There's all types of crazy rules
with stuff like that, like so
there's also rules that like a
living person cannot be put on
any money in the United States
either.
It's there's there's a shit load
of crazy rules.
He's got money he wants his face
on.
Well, he would be breaking one
of those rules if he did that.
Oh, I don't think he cares.
Yeah, US teachers, Judge
Christopher Cooper, no relation,
said the Kennedy Center Board of
Trustees exceeds.
It's that I know because I can
see this guy on social media
still so.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
How related to cigar coupe?
Oh, got it, got it.
No relation.
Got it.
Statutory bounds by unilaterally
renaming the institution.
I just went put my name on that
building.
I want it here.
Well, he does a lot of that
stuff.
He just does things, President.
Of the United States.
The ruling requires the Trump
administration to remove signage
bearing Trump's name and
eliminate references to Trump
slash Kennedy even put his name
first.
You got to give the slash.
Kennedy Center from official
materials.
It's amazing.
And now he's bad mouthing the
place because it's a terrible
place.
It's a shit hole anyway.
Put their name on it anyway.
Yeah, it's.
A ridiculous place.
But I read he wants to put out a
$250 bill and.
Have a picture on it 2. 50.
I mean, we currently don't have
one.
Of them so for like for
commemorative of the 250th year.
Of oh, that's probably why that
one.
Yeah.
But I'm pretty confident there
is a rule, maybe even a law,
that you can't do it if you're
still alive.
Like you can't, you can't go on
any paper money, or any money
for that matter, in the United
States.
Anyway, yeah, I guess you're
right.
There's Susan B Anthony's dead.
She was the last.
They're all dead.
They're all dead.
They're all well.
I know the paper is.
They're all dead.
They're all dead.
What do your doctors say?
They're all dead.
They're all dead.
OK, well, that's.
You would think when you were
president you could just do
whatever you want to A to a
limit.
I mean, you know, who cares?
He puts his name on the
building.
What's the big deal?
That's that's why our government
is structured with those three
positions so that the president
can't be a dictator.
Yeah, it's supposed to have the
whole 3.
Things he just wants his name on
a building.
You know the two other branches.
Remember that thing?
Why didn't he just build his own
center, the Trump Center for the
Arts?
He's going to name the ballroom
after him, Donald J Trump.
Ball Donald J Trump Ball. $250
bill.
You know there are $500 bills
and $1000 bills.
Yes, but not a 2. 50 not a 250,
no.
So he had to pick one that they
didn't already have.
Is there a 250 I would like on a
250?
Interesting, I don't think
that's what he sounds like.
No, he doesn't.
I can't do Trump.
Give us a Trump the.
Accents he does.
He can't do a Trump.
Give us a good Trump.
Why then tell me about the 250I?
Can't do Trump.
I just said I can't do it.
Now you want me to do it?
Yeah.
No.
Yes.
How about Jonathan Drew once at
250?
OK, go ahead.
I'll, I'll, I'll settle for JD.
I'll settle for JD.
Jonathan Drew of Drew, his team
I.
Don't know why he can't put his
name on the Trump.
Hey that is zoo in Austria. 2
giant tortoises, which means
more than one, became local
celebrities for a reason no one
expected anybody.
Anybody.
I'm from Austria.
Good day mate.
No idea.
For for, I'm going to say it's
something ridiculous, like they
had sex for a long period of
time or something like that.
They can't stand each.
Other Oh, so they did have no at
one point and now.
No, they did it.
It's two males, according to
Zoo.
And and what's your point the.
Feud started after the tortoise
allegedly stole food from the
other during a feeding session
like 15 years ago.
That's like last week in
Tortoise years.
Right, but the one is holding a
grudge.
Yeah.
What seemed like a small
incident turned into a long
running rivalry that staff say
continued for decades.
However feeding time arrived,
the two tortoises would often
engage in what visitors
described as arguments, bumping,
blocking and challenging each
other around the food.
That's nice.
The pair became so well known
that some guests specially
visited the zoo, hoping to
witness the spectacle for
themselves.
Turtle fight.
Watching 2 slow and it's in slow
motion.
Watching the. 2 slow moving
animals hold on to a grudge for
years struck many people as both
amusing and surprisingly
relatable.
They're not actually that slow.
Did you know that they they,
they're not fast, but they're
not slow like.
Not like you think, yeah.
The wife has a tortoise.
Yes, we know we've.
Talked about this too this.
Month she lets it like run
around the backyard.
We're not going to let you just
commandeer this all the time.
So you talk about your goddamn
tortoise.
OK, we're moving on.
Animal behavior experts say
giant tortoises are far more
complex than most people
realize.
While they can't, they may
appear calm and unbothered.
They can develop strong
personalities, establish
routines, recognize familiar
individuals, and display
territorial behaviors.
Wow, Greg, we really need you on
the show.
Perfect, I'd love to talk about
my tortoise some more.
Well, you know a group of
tortoises is called a creep.
Yeah, you know, you are also a
creep.
You are also a creep.
Yeah, whether we're stubborn
personality or simply a
territorial dispute, one thing
is certain.
Those two tortoises showed some
disagreements can move slowly,
but they last a long time.
Greg, have you ever been mad at
somebody that ate your food?
Yes.
And are you stage your food?
Are you still mad at them to
this day?
Yes.
Who is it?
The tortoise on your patio?
Let me tell.
Let me tell you about my
tortoise.
Tell you about my tortoise.
Yeah, you know, I have tortoise.
Tell me somebody who took your
food that you're upset with.
Tell, tell us, tell the people.
I.
Don't like it when my wife does
it.
Your your wife doesn't.
Takes food off your plate.
Yeah, like she'll, she'll like.
Without asking.
Yeah, she just sort of do it,
but it's something that you have
to like, just tolerate.
How is you?
Don't have to smack your little
hands, you could just stop that.
Beat my wife.
No, no, just slap her little.
Hand just slap her a little.
Slap.
That's not acceptable.
I thought it was always the
other way around, like I always
steal my wife's food.
You steal, everybody should.
Yeah, yeah.
No, there have been times that
you, I'm pretty sure you've done
that to me as a child.
I still I if he has as a child
as a child if you have sushi,
that's and I see that.
Oh.
You have done that.
That's true, yeah.
But I don't just take it from
you.
You know what I mean?
I just.
Go on.
Usually wait till the end to go.
Are you gonna eat that?
I'm like, what's up with that?
You're not calling that right.
Here.
What's going on with that?
Did you touch it?
He takes my sushi.
He said goodbye sushi.
Yeah, for Britney, I just stare
at her food, just kinda look at.
It you would think by now she
would over order and expecting
to feed you also.
She knows, Yeah, she knows.
She knows she's she knows how to
handle it.
She's a pro, right?
Every once in a while she'll
miss that.
And she's like, I knew I should
have ordered the app or
something like that, you know,
should have.
Got more?
Yeah, should.
Have got more, yeah.
The problem with having kids is
sometimes it's a whole gamble
because there have been times
when we're out to eat and, you
know, you order for these three
kids and two of them don't eat
their meals.
So if I eat my meal and then
they have their meal and now I'm
pissed off because their food is
unscathed and you know I feel
obligated to eat it.
Right, three meals.
There are times, so then what?
So then you know in my infinite
wisdom, what I'll do at times
is, you know what?
I'm going to skip my meal,
right?
I'll have the app before
everybody and then afterwards
I'll just eat what they're not
eating, right?
Which is usually like an intact
cheeseburger or something like
that, right?
But the problem is whenever I do
that.
They eat everything.
They eat all of it.
They're like, oh wait, oh, he
didn't order so we better crush
this.
And I'm like, God, man, I can't
win.
Then you just go without.
So yeah, yeah.
So it's either, you know, you're
either burning an extra hundo
and no one's eating or you're
saving 20-30 bucks and you're
hungry.
So wow, this my name is Michael
Chef on Kevitch and this is my.
On how big is his male He's he.
Was a very large man.
Well, you know.
Oh, and now Jax is Jax is at a
whole nother level.
Jax, is that with you now?
Jax is at a whole nother level
when it comes to eating.
He's eating a lot now.
Yeah, he's eating a lot and he's
eating.
He's eating at an adult level.
Yeah, well, he's, he's hitting
that point in puberty where he's
gonna sprout up.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, but it's worse than that,
Greg.
It's much worse than what we we
went to dinner.
We went to dinner.
We were at the theme parks and
we got to eat at a nice place
and he's looking at the menu and
he goes, you know, the lobster
roll sounds.
Really nice.
The most expensive piece of food
on the on the I'm like use.
And it was apparently really
nice 'cause he ate the whole
thing.
But this is the you know.
You you can't tell him no.
No, I'm not going to tell him.
Well, no, I'm not going to tell
him.
No, no, you don't get to.
I mean, the whole I do, the
whole thing, the work, The thing
is so that they can have the
like.
That's the reason.
Lobster rolls.
If he wants the damn lobster
roll, you can have the lobster
roll.
You know I may ham and hawk
quietly to my wife and say this.
Adrian's kids used to do that.
I would like the lobster Mac and
cheese.
I'm like.
What's the catch of the day?
Right, exactly what is the most?
Just ask.
What's the most expensive thing
in the menu?
Just ask the waitress.
I'll take three of those, right?
Yeah.
So, but yeah, so that's where
he's.
Alex one time ordered 2 meals.
Really.
I like you know you ordered 2
meals.
She goes no, no, they're just
going to bring me like a second
burrito.
Go no, no, you ordered.
Two meals tell the listeners to
Alex's.
It's my one of my stepsons.
OK, so the waitress brought the
one plate and then he starts to
ask where your second burrito is
and then she put the second
plate in.
Front of him.
Nice, Yeah.
I like see did he eat it?
Nope.
I made him take it home though.
He had it the next day.
And and you've held that grudge
ever since.
Not until you just mentioned
that I'd forgotten about.
It so you actually can relate to
the tortoises.
No, no, I can relate to your son
ordering the lobster roll.
Ah, OK, All right.
Tanner used to always order the
lobster Mac and cheese please.
Greg, would you like me to speak
to your wife about her stealing
your food?
No, no, no.
It's.
I could do that.
No problem.
I'd be happy.
I could.
Text her right now she.
Can do what she.
Want.
I'd be happy to have that.
Like it when you take his food
off she's.
A good woman.
It's been and that's the only
problem.
That's the only problem I've
got.
We're doing all right.
I'd be happy to stir that pot
for you.
We're good 'cause some problems.
We could call her on here right
now and tell her I'm.
So.
Hey, Alex.
Out of nowhere, really out of
left field here.
We're doing the podcast and all
of a sudden my brother said I
can't stand it when Jesus, he's
going.
On and on about this, not.
Really.
Quite the point with him, he's
been.
Ranting about this.
Ranting for.
Quite some time like you taking
his as he said, God damn poop.
Something.
About I quote.
And I quote.
Something about a sandwich.
He's been hungry ever since he
met you, he said.
Yeah, which is odd.
Which is very odd.
OK.
All right, good.
Carrying on with our next, our
next.
Speaking of things that your
wife don't like you to do World
Cup soccer, but then the 2026
FIFA World Cup coming to New
Jersey area so are the escorts a
major increase in bookings as
millions of visitors are
expected to arrive.
Apparently people are making
reservations before they get
here.
Must.
Have hookers?
American escorts.
Gregory Escorts.
Yeah, they're just hanging out.
One New York escort interview by
the New York Post said she
charges up to $10,000 per day
for certain services and has
seen a surge in inquiries tied
directly to the World Cup dates.
Things are up.
Now these people just asking or
do you think they're actually
booking?
That's one hell of a service for
10 grand.
Well, that's for the entire day.
Sleeve a wizard.
Sleeve a wizard.
What is included in these
services?
I don't know.
You would have to.
It's a.
Lot more money than a lobster
roll right there, you know, You
know we could call.
And find out, but we're going to
have to use your.
Phone just for the record, Yeah,
Jacks would like the whole day
service please.
Yeah, I just want to know.
Yeah.
From soup to nuts.
I need to start to finish the
full package.
What's that?
Yeah, Go see that guy with a
credit card.
Go ahead.
No problem.
Escorts reported increased
website traffic, more clients
inquire and bookings being made
weeks in advance by
international visitors planning
their trips around the matches.
Do you get the one if you go to
the website?
I always heard like the one in
the photo.
Is it like the one you get?
Do you see how he said I always.
Heard.
I've heard.
I haven't done that.
So I've heard.
We all know how cheap I am.
I ain't paying for a hooker.
No, Well, you're only down to
25% of your stuff after 2.
Divorces 2 divorces, right?
But I mean, you know, if they're
charging $10,000, I need 3
minutes, what am I going to?
Do you know very expensive with
the rest of the day.
Maybe she can read a book to you
or something.
One of the well read she can
read to me it's.
Like $3300 a minute, Palmer.
Oh my Lord, no I don't.
One of the more unusual trends
mentioned was an increase in
request for couples seeking
experiences together while
visiting for the tournament.
Oh, they're out of their
country.
You know no one's going to know,
right?
That's we hear pineapple's big
in America, so we would like the
pineapple package.
Is that why you went to Peru,
Greg?
No, we went to Peru to climb
mountains.
And a hooker.
Is that what it's called?
Climb the mountains.
There were no hookers.
There's no hookers.
There's no hookers in Peru.
I'm sure there are, I didn't see
them.
Well, they're discreet.
Yeah, I'm.
Sure, they're dressed like
Sherpa.
There were Sherpas.
Those were the hookers.
I don't think so.
That's what I've read.
These were rough looking people.
Well, I mean, you know, you're
on a mountain.
You beggars can't be choosers.
And you know, as after his wife
snatched the cheeseburger out of
his plate, he said, you know
what, let's go, Let's go get
some extracurricular activities
going on.
What do you say?
You know me, you and some other
dude.
And some other dude.
What would be a Sherpa name?
Is it like Miguel or something?
Name what?
A what?
A What's the name of a Sherpa?
Yeah.
What Sherpa did you come across?
It was a woman and I, I
actually, I can't, I can't
recall her name.
Actually, indeed it was.
You don't.
Need you know her name?
You didn't find her name?
I know I wasn't.
Paying attention.
Did you steal her meal?
No, no, I saw some of your
wife's Instagram stuff.
I didn't see any Sherpa.
Saw her on a four Wheeler, Saw
her with a cane.
No Sherpa.
No, she didn't see any Sherpa.
No, Sherpa, OK.
Well, you know where hookers
aren't a problem?
Where?
Latvia.
Latvia.
Latvia, Latvia, They're
reporting facing one of the
largest gender imbalances in
Europe, with women outnumbering
the men by more than 80,000
people.
What's the?
Ratio.
Does it say?
One man for every 80,000 women.
What?
Well, the statistic is
surprisingly according to the
pictures, what it look like 1.
To 80,001 To 80,001 To 80,000.
Can you imagine?
Reasons are more complex than
they first appear.
One major factor is that women
generally live longer in Latvia
than men.
OK, so don't move there, you'll
die.
OK.
As a many European and many
Eastern European countries, men
have significantly shorter life
expectancy due to higher rates
of heart disease, smoking,
alcohol related illnesses,
workplace accidents and other
health risks.
You have the same problem here,
yeah.
Yeah.
Smoking.
Drinking.
Smoking, drinking, falling down.
Yeah, you know why men die for
their wives.
Because they want to.
Because they want.
They want to stole that from
you.
You can have it, it's all you.
No, I'm good.
Migration also plays a role.
For years many working age men
have left in search of better
paying jobs.
So apparently there's no not a
lot of jobs in life.
But apparently a lot of women.
Yeah, they look like Swedish
women according to the picture.
They were Oh yeah, that's AI
Dude, we just caught you just
got on the whole topic
discussion about how the the
image doesn't match the the sale
item right.
Like like the cheeseburger on
the.
McDonald's.
Yeah, this is.
I'm not going to labia, it's too
busy.
Some studies suggest the impact
on male migration has been
especially noticeable in certain
age groups and regions.
Demographics add another layer
to the story.
Latvia has an ageing population
in low birth rates, meaning
older age groups make up a
larger share of the population.
Is is this why you keep pressing
me hard to open up
internationally?
Latvia because you want to go
there?
Is that what you would carry?
Postonia Products.
Postonia Products Italy was
offering to come live there and
they pay you money and give you
a house and a job.
That's been going on for years.
Yeah.
But the way they spread the
houses, I don't think they were
very comfortable.
Yeah, the old stone houses Greg
would probably like.
That Greg actually has one
there.
Oh, does he?
Yeah.
We have a villa.
We we stayed at something like
that while we were over there.
He's I'm.
Sure you did.
He's actually Italian.
He probably bought 1.
Yeah, I didn't.
We we've discussed it.
Yeah, he's actually.
Because it's it's not expensive.
He wants to release the Postagna
Italia.
This is his next release.
Yeah, the next, the next.
Yeah, it's going to be amazing.
It's a little cherute.
Oh, a little.
That.
Little twisty, twisty thing.
Yeah, it's going to be great.
The imbalance has sparked
conversations about healthcare,
economic opportunities, family
formation and the long term
challenges facing several
European nations with aging
populations.
Yeah, OK, it.
Says 80,000 more women than men.
I don't know what that.
No, no, no.
That's just the total population
or something.
Yeah, but like, if the total
population is, you know, 20
million people, right?
And there's 80,000 more women
than men, it's not that
lopsided.
It's not that crazy.
Well, you could pick 3 or 4.
OK, yeah, it's not as dramatic
as you think here.
It says women outnumbering men
by approximately 80,000 to
130,000 overall.
So it's almost.
Oh 80,000 men 130,000 it's.
Almost 2 to one.
It's not even.
It's not even quite 2:00 to
1:00. 80,000 to 1.
All right, I have the video.
Oh, you do.
I have it, I have it, I have it.
I have to find a bit of this.
Oh my God, You got to trim this,
all right?
And you won't.
That's the sad part is you
won't, OK?
Still wait, don't put it on me
when you guys put it on you, OK,
put.
On Greg, all right.
Am I supposed to watch with the
volume one or the volume?
One, you know what this is?
Yeah, well, you can read the
bottom if he wants to.
Don't read the bottom.
If you haven't read the bottom,
don't read it yet.
Do you know what that is?
You know that is Greg.
Sounded like a woman being hurt.
Yeah, not really.
She's getting that buzzy beat up
is when she was getting done.
Last week, we did a story about
a federal judge who's been
reprimanded because she was
engaged in sexual activity with
a policeman, a high-ranking
policeman during office hours
between like cases.
On the clock.
On the clock and there was no
They didn't mention her name or
the police officer's name.
But since then, the video there
has been released and her staff
has named her and the policeman.
Well, they didn't even mention
that it was a she, they just had
a judge and an officer.
Right.
Yeah, they didn't mention that
was.
Very loud.
Yeah.
Like you would think they would
be a little discreet.
That was the problem.
They could hear them out in the
hallway outside her chambers.
Yeah.
So they denied it.
They said no, that's not true.
We were playing a game.
That's what was, yeah, allegedly
playing.
A game?
Yeah, game called Hide the
Weasel.
Yeah.
Apparently so.
She has been reprimanded, but
that's all they're doing to her.
There's no just, you know, bad.
Like she sold the cheeseburger
off the plate.
Well, that was before the video.
Yeah, now there's a video and
she has been named, so it might
be a little worse now I.
Mean, really victimless crime.
Do you think it?
Well, yeah, so you know that
instinctively.
That's what I thought as well.
But then when you start thinking
about things, you know, is it
possible to blackmail a person?
If, what if, what if one of
these people are married or, you
know, something of, of that
nature, right.
So it could.
OK, yeah, if one of them's
marriage.
Yeah, that's that's a mess.
Or you know the.
Staff could have blackmailed her
with the, you know, like make
sure this guy doesn't go to jail
or I released a video of you
yelling Oh no, Oh no, give it to
me.
Big Daddy, right?
Right, Big Daddy.
Yeah, Daddy.
Yes, Sergeant.
Yeah, you know.
Sergeant Right, right.
Put me in the back of the police
car, whatever she was.
Yelling, you know, for whatever
reason, I I thought that the cop
was the female.
I don't know why.
Did you really?
Yeah.
Well, because instinctually,
when you heard Judge, you
thought man.
I don't.
Then why would I think cop is
woman?
Well, because if the judge was a
man and the cop was a woman,
that's how regular sex happens.
I don't know, I think it's just
the way that.
The he's not sure.
Wait, Are you sure?
He only has the three children,
Yeah.
I don't know, just the way that
you read the story, the way that
you read the article, it sounded
to me like the the cop was the
female.
I always assumed the judge was
the female.
Did you?
Yeah.
Interesting.
See, he he thought that I didn't
think that I don't.
I thought the judge was the
female and the cop was the male.
Yeah, I, I don't think that it's
a superiority thing or anything
like that when it comes to
gender or whatever.
I for whatever reason I just
thought that it was the other
way around.
All right, then quick test
ready.
Yes, I'm I'm going to say
screen.
I'm going to, I'm going to say
profession.
OK, cover your eyes.
I'm going to say.
OK, cover your eyes.
You might.
Be tell me male or female ready.
OK, he's going to.
He's going to scream when we're
this officer.
All right?
Male.
Male.
Doctor.
Female.
Male.
Super interesting.
OK.
Just the 2, that's it.
Maybe we want another one,
firefighter.
Well, and I know, I know both,
Yeah.
It's not about knowing.
It's about it's like, what's the
like?
When when you see the.
Cartoon character of that
profession, What do you see?
I could see either a female or
male.
At the same time, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chicago PD is definitely.
The cat is both dead and alive
at the same time.
Yeah, it's like a virus.
It's a living, a non living
item.
Right.
Very good.
Yeah.
What Big Bang Theory?
What cat?
I'm sorry.
Schrodinger's You don't know if
the cat's alive or dead inside
the box.
It's both at the same time.
It's both the same.
It's both dead and alive at the
same.
Time.
It's a virus.
It's living a non living.
OK Any any other ones like
professor?
Yeah, yeah.
Teacher female.
We have more female than male,
I'd tell you.
Right.
Yeah, no, like there, there are
genders that are associated with
professions for sure, right.
OK, Pilot.
Man.
Pilot.
Man.
Artist.
No pronouns.
Yeah, it could go.
Either way this is the non
traditional sex.
This is the day section of
things Bob Ross is, you say
artist.
I go happy little tree all day,
you think?
Of Bob Ross.
Yeah, happy little problems, you
know.
OK, so yeah, there's.
More famous male artists that I
can think of than female.
I can't think of one female.
Sure.
Yeah, that's true.
Hair stylist.
Gay men.
Yeah.
Barber.
Old man.
Right.
OK, OK.
These are all interesting facts,
Greg.
They're.
Not facts, their opinions.
Good to know.
No, no, they're facts.
Yeah, we consider them facts.
It's the owner, you're only
gender allowed to do those jobs.
That's right.
All right.
Moving on to the cigar news.
OK.
Bovida launches skipper What
does Skipper do?
I have no idea.
It's a it's is that from
Gilligan's Island?
No.
Does it have to do with
humidification like that's?
A yeah, it's there would be a
humidification product.
It's a, it's a very good, OK, So
it's a humidification product,
OK.
And to keep things humidified.
Is it a bag?
Would you consider the product
we have upstairs in a bag?
No, but like a bag that is a
humidifier.
No, it's similar to what we what
they already make.
So it's just a pouch?
It's a water pillow.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's called Skipper, made
specifically for something else,
and it has something different
inside of it, as far as I can
tell from the article.
Oh, it's like a scented bag or
something, No.
Is it for?
Is it for marijuana?
No, that's they already have
that out.
Yeah, they have that.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
They're launching Skipper to
help keep produce fresh.
OK.
The average American goes
through 16 throws away $1600
worth of vegetables a year that
go bad inside the refrigerator.
I don't know what house you're
living at because we probably
burned through that a week and
throw that stuff away. 1600s
Vegetables.
You're buying way too much that.
I mean, I think, I mean, I'm
obviously over exaggerating.
This is interesting.
I thought it was too.
The company launched the Skipper
product as a way to keep produce
hydrated in the cold, dry
environment of refrigerator.
Yeah, because a refrigerator
actually removes humidity,
correct?
Yes, while refrigerators are
good at slowing moisture loss,
they do not replenish it, which
leads to fresh produce wilting
and spoiling, as well as
nutrient loss and ultimately
waste.
The company says that the
average US household discards
roughly $1600 of fresh produce
annually, largely due to
spoilage.
Skipper is designed to sit
inside the crisper drawer where
it releases purified water vapor
and maintains the hydration
balance needed to keep fresh
produce crisp, vibrant and
nutrient rich.
Does it cost less than the
regular boat of it does that are
used for cigars?
Hold on, we'll get that in a
minute.
However, instead of just adding
moisture, Skipper regulates
moisture the same way Bovet a
pack does in a humidor, adding
moisture when the drawer is too
dry and absorbing excess when it
is too humid.
Inside each pack is purified
water, salt, and a type of gum.
Xanthan gums.
That same thing in the regular
one.
I would assume.
Is it?
Well whatever that gum is, it's
a food safe, allergen free
thickening agent, so maybe it
could be different.
I think it's the same.
Probably the same, yeah.
But only water vapor flows in
and out of the pack.
Each pack is 7 3/8 by 3 1/2 by
.75 inches, a bit longer than a
cell phone.
Skipper is now available on
Amazon and TikTok and is priced
at 1499 per pack.
How many are in a pack?
Just one pack.
Just one.
OK.
And the pack should be replaced
approximately every three
months.
Or or you can just throw the
packs in the drawer.
In the fridge, I know that's a.
Fraction of the cause.
Yeah, this is kind of
interesting because yeah, for 5
bucks I can just Chuck 1 of the
70 fivers in that pig.
And so it's the same.
If it's the same thing, also the
statement that it will, you
know, not only add humidity but
also remove it.
No it won't.
It's not ever going to remove
humidity because the unit
itself, the refrigerator, is
constantly.
Removing humidity.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're blue with white
writing and, says Skipper,
across it would be.
Nice.
Why do you think they called it
Skipper?
I have no idea.
It does.
It makes no sense at all.
I don't know, Maybe the guy who
thought, hey, we put these in
with the vegetables, we could
skip something else.
Oh, we'll call them Skipper.
OK, what?
What about you?
Any any logical reason for the
skipper name Greg?
No idea.
You think that they would have
incorporated that in the story?
Like, hey, we'd called the
skipper because whatever.
You guys ship captains are known
for their fresh produce.
Just you think selling this at
3X the normal Huma pack pricing
will help offset some of the the
additional cost for?
Well, they're already killing
it.
I mean, like the margins on that
product have to be disgusting.
Since you put out that Article 2
weeks ago about you can't reuse
them, it's not good.
Why not?
Fred says it's bad.
I, I, I'm going to call Fred
when we're done here.
He's.
Not getting a cut?
I asked.
I have.
Questions.
I have many questions.
Yeah, why can't you reuse them?
If it not only adds but also
draws humidity out, meaning it
gets more full, it would remove
humidity if you could add
humidity to it without a
problem.
Regular one do that too.
Yes.
So in case anybody doesn't know
that Bova, the humidor pack is a
pouch that you put inside of
your humidor and what it does is
it regulates the humidity level
for your cigars somewhere
between 65 and 75%.
You can kind of pick whichever 1
you want.
There's on average, I think
there's like 4 of them regularly
available, but there's a couple
of ones that are really high and
really low too that we don't
recommend for cigariums.
And yeah, apparently if you want
to keep your apples fresh, you
can do that too.
And boba packs are a great
product. 100%, yeah.
We, we, we use, yeah, we, we, we
actually tell other the
customers that come in that want
to use the old propylene glycol
jar, just throw that thing away
that, that, that you're wasting
your time with.
Just use the boba.
Pack.
Just use the boba pack.
It's much easier.
Well, supposedly after you reuse
them, they're not set at 75
anymore.
It's like if you have a 75 and
you re.
Rehydrated.
Rehydrate.
Thank you.
You're rehydrated.
It's not going to go to 75.
It's going to swell up until you
take it out.
I really want to see the science
on this.
You could call.
I'm going to call Fred.
Call Fred.
I'm calling Fred, Fred, Fred.
Brilliant cigar price.
OK.
You calling Fred right now?
I'm.
Going to call Fred.
He's calling Fred.
He doesn't have the earpiece in.
No.
Well, he's not going to be able
to hear it then.
That's his fault.
Let's see.
Here, an earpiece.
You declined it last time.
I assumed you wouldn't.
Want it?
Yeah, Yeah.
But I'm the one with the
questions.
Well, you can still ask if there
are you you.
Just won't hear him.
He's probably in Bora Bora or
something.
It pops.
All circuits are busy.
Please try your call again.
All circuits are.
Busy.
I don't think it pops on the
show, though.
It does.
Oh, does it?
Yeah.
I didn't hear it last.
Why are all circuits busy?
Maybe something bad is happening
out there, we don't know.
This could be it.
So Mikey, hey, you're on the
podcast.
Hi, Fred.
Oh, exciting.
Yes, and exclusive we have.
Did I win something?
Yes.
Did I win?
Did I win?
You did.
Am I?
Am I the 9th caller?
Congratulations, it pays.
Yeah, yeah.
Congratulations.
You won.
Oh, thanks.
I've been trying for so long
since my my brother went missing
so this is awesome.
Greg, Greg's on the podcast as
well and he has a question, but
he doesn't have headphones on,
so he's not going to get your
answer.
However, we want to know why
can't you reuse A Bovida pack
and rehumidify what happens
behind it that we cannot do
this.
So that's funny.
I'm glad you, I mean it.
It's interesting and that it
totally blew up.
But look, if your purpose, in my
understanding, if your purpose
is just, I want water in a
pillow in my humidor, then yeah,
you can do it.
I mean, they will you, you can
use your bovida, it can dry up,
you can soak it in water or do
whatever you want.
And then it expands back into
water and you, you've got water.
I, my understanding is though,
as it dries out and as that
continues to happen, is the salt
that's in there, which helps the
relative humidity and everything
else eventually breaks down like
disintegrates, right?
So, so, so it's not doing what
it's originally intended to do
as accurate as it intended to.
But if you're monitoring, I
suppose if you're monitoring
your humidor on a different
method, like you've got
something in there that's
measuring it and you just got
all these pillows of, you know,
water in there, then you're
probably OK.
It's just, it's not doing it
automatically anymore.
You're going to need something
else to help you watch it.
That's my, that's my
understanding.
That's my understanding ask.
Them about the skipper.
I'm totally wrong.
Why?
OK, why?
Why?
Why did they call it skipper for
the produce?
They make a new one now.
Did you see that, Skipper?
Why would they call it skipper?
Skipper.
Yeah, that's to keep the veggies
good in your fridge.
Yeah, that's actually from the
Egyptians that originally would
take a produce to to the ocean
and throw it across the water
based on how many times it
skipped.
That was the predicted amount of
how how many weeks the produce
would last.
Yeah.
So that, yeah, good call on them
for going back to that.
Yeah, good call out.
You're a great source there.
I thought you.
Solved that problem.
I thought, Greg, you didn't
hear.
But I heard nothing.
Apparently the Egyptians used to
skip vegetables across the Nile
to see how long they would last.
So that's the.
Skipper, Yeah, yeah, and and
skipper.
Not like that's that's.
The river the better the
vegetable.
Is how long it would last.
Yeah, how long it'll last across
the river or if.
You think about them because,
yeah, the mushy.
Stuff River.
You're not getting it back.
You've determined something.
But but then all the the other
the remaining years of corn you
had, you would know it'd skipped
7 times.
Oh, this will be good for seven
days or seven weeks, whatever
their time.
It's not.
In science.
Right there, it's not.
It's just.
Science.
I thought it's.
Just science, Not Gilligan's
Island.
I thought it was Gilligan's
Island.
I thought, didn't they have a
skipper?
Gilligan's Island, or.
Something, yes, and he did wear
blue.
Like the color of the skipper?
So maybe he was.
A yeah.
So this one, that's where they
got the the idea from I'm sure.
Makes sense?
I hear he was Egyptian, so it
could be.
Yeah, that makes sense.
It could be, it does explain a
lot.
OK, it certainly does all.
Right.
Well, perfect.
Well, Skipper, Mr. Skipper, Fred
Ruhi, we appreciate you of Cigar
Press clarifying that
information.
Are we going to explain to Greg
exactly what you just said?
Or maybe not.
Maybe we'll say something
totally different.
But either way, we're gonna
we're gonna let Greg know
something.
And we and I appreciate the fact
that you just answered the
phone.
That was really nice of you.
Well, I mean it did come up
unknown caller, so it had a
shot, but.
She could have actually won
something.
Speaking of which, we've been
trying.
To write you.
About your warranty.
Oh.
Yes, please.
Please.
Alright, brother.
Well, we appreciate you.
Man, alright, you bet.
Talk to you later.
Bye.
There you go, the Fred Rue of of
the Cigar Press.
I go to him for the answers to
all my questions.
He's so smart.
He is.
Yeah.
OK.
So Greg, one of these is going
to be true and one of these is
going to be wrong.
And you got to tell me which one
is is inaccurate.
The first one is the salt that
is inside of the packet
deteriorates over time and that
that henceforth can no longer
regulate the correct amount
inside of the human.
Pack OK, OK, All right.
The second one is that the
membrane that is the actual
bovida pack actually starts to
deteriorate and over time can
leak inside of the cigar
humidor.
So one of them's true, one of
them's false.
Which one is accurate?
They're not.
They're not both true, no.
OK, then I'm going to go with
the salt theory.
Is true or false?
Is true?
Is true.
Why I?
Don't know the the way that you
said the first rather than you
said the second the your body
language based.
My body language.
He always thinks he's playing
poker.
He's looking for the text.
Purely off.
You're incorrect, all right?
It's the membrane.
The membrane.
I'm lying.
It's the salt.
The salt, yes.
But but now just like there's
thousand year old Himalayan salt
that gets sold at stores, right?
So that salt didn't deteriorate
over thousands of years.
Well.
It's not in whatever that gooey
water is that they put it.
In yeah, the gooey water.
OK, no, I honestly think that
you're right.
I think that realistically, I
mean, look, the water should
sustain, right?
I mean, it makes sense.
I, I don't, I look at the end of
the day, we always tell people,
look, just once it starts to dry
out, just throw it away.
Sure.
And that's not because, hey, I'm
trying to make the extra $3, but
it's like a three or $4.00
problem, right?
So to, to go back in there and
rehydrate and do all this crap
is just ridiculous.
It's like a cigar, like, like if
I'm smoking a cigar and the
cigar is plugged, I'm not fixing
it, Abandonado.
I'm throwing it away.
I'm, I'm that's it.
I'm, I'm moving on.
I'm, I'm not.
I'm not doing this.
You just took what was pleasant
and now it's become a job.
I don't need the job.
I'm here to relax and enjoy
myself.
Also, it's a bad business model
to sell a product and then tell
the public that you only need to
buy it once.
Hey, just buy it the one time
and then you can build this
whole mechanism of the system of
rejuvenation, you know?
I've never got it to work.
I've tried to do that a few
times.
Yeah.
You want to know why?
Because it's it's ridiculous.
It's just too much work it for
for a little pay, you know what
I mean?
Right.
Yeah.
Like I said, it's a 3 or $4.00
item.
Yeah, just buy another one.
Yeah, you got to go buy the $5
piece of Tupperware and then you
have to put something in the
bottom.
Of it, right, Yeah, or, or I can
just throw this one out and just
go get another one another. 1.
Yeah, exactly.
So OK skipper, moving on.
All right, JC Newman ships the
Leroy Neiman 2026 Collector's
Edition.
Leroy Jenkins.
That's all we have.
I didn't really care.
That was it.
That was it.
I didn't.
I didn't grab the article.
OK.
If you bought it, you know it's
coming.
There you go.
Do you know what this is, Greg?
No idea.
He has no idea.
He's not even.
He's a famous artist who did a
drawing of JF Kennedy being
saying happy birthday to by
what's your name, the blonde
Marilyn Monroe.
And apparently that's on the
inside of the box, and also on
the cigar.
OK, so there's a.
Series of these cigars that have
come out, this is the one that's
shipped.
Who do you think that this
caters towards?
Like what customer would say hey
I really want this.
JC Newman history buffs?
I don't know.
There are other brands that have
done similar stuff like this
before.
People have put prints of famous
artists on interior boxes, yeah.
You know we have one upstairs.
Yeah, Mumbacho did one of those
too.
Was it David White or something
like that, that?
Actually, I think that was the
name, yeah.
Oh, David White.
Yeah, very famous man.
He is.
He's a big deal.
All right, the 1960s.
Oh, that was it.
Conversation, I don't have any,
I don't have the information.
So I mean, we can talk about
more things, everything like
doing with the Mona Lisa or
something like that would be.
A good well, do you think that I
mean well my point is that what
I was trying to gravitate
towards like the demograph, how
old is your average person that
can relate to JFK right now?
You know what I mean?
Like.
Oh see, I'm almost 60 so it's
got to be mid to late 60.
When was he assassinated?
When was he assassinated?
What year?
I don't know that man.
I'm not sure I.
I might have been.
Born.
I don't remember exactly.
I was very young back then.
I have been through that area of
Texas.
Though it's a it's it changed my
assassination to sanitation.
OK, when was JFK sanitized?
When was he put in the Tridge?
OK, when did JFK pass?
Let's start that 1963.
OK, so I was before I was born,
OK.
So dude.
But for that generation, though,
that's the thing.
Where were you at when John F
Kennedy was shot?
Like my generation is?
Where were you during 9/11?
OK.
But so you know, that happened
63 years ago.
Yeah, so 60 some odd.
Year so if you were a if you
were a wee lad at the age of 10.
Young.
Fella, you're 73 years old.
Right.
I don't know, you know, any 73
year old big time cigar
collectors because the ones that
I know that are in their 70s,
they're all about value.
They want to smoke something I'm
not.
Sure, there's some wealthier men
that might find this.
They're thinking, hey, I'm going
to.
I want this for my collection
that I'm going to have to give
up in a couple years.
Right.
Want to die?
Well.
Maybe they don't plan on dying.
Live forever.
Maybe they're like boba de packs
and they're going to rehydrate
themselves.
I mean, how long do you live
realistically?
Your 80s.
I don't know what the current.
Yeah.
I think it's, I think it's 80s.
Is it?
80s early old.
That seems old.
Yeah.
OK, All right.
That's just kind of my point.
I don't know.
Seems silly.
I'm sure they sold all of them,
but whatever.
Probably all right.
The 1916 Tablical era Aroa
Asylum Arabian Nights is
shipping.
That was a nice short name.
Yeah, very long name. 2 of
Celie's Cigar Company's newest
lines are shipping into stores.
One line, 1916 Tablicular Arroa,
is a new blend from Sentai
Santi.
What is Santai Sentai?
Santai Santai.
How do you say that, Greg?
Santi, how would you say that in
Peruvian S?
A.
NT Oh right, remember he can't
spell.
Yeah, I know.
That's why it's fun.
Yeah, Sentai.
Santai Santi not.
Santi.
Not Santi.
Santi Santi.
It's a male that helps any San
just call him San Santi San
Santi Santi.
Maybe it's like the new Drew
Stega Jonathan Santi Santi
Santi.
Anyway, this is the youngest son
of CLA found Cle founder
Christian Iroa.
Oh, that's his name.
That's his name.
Santi Arroa, like his brothers
Christian Junior and Julio, both
names Easy both.
Names we can pronounce.
Right, the younger hero is
working for the Cle cigar
company Represent.
He didn't like this one.
Apparently his name is Santi.
Santi.
Representing the family's 4th
generation blend, Wise 1916 uses
a Honduran Habano wrapper and
binder, as well as Honduran
Corojo and Pinarejo fillers.
Pinarejo Panarejo.
Spell that for Greg.
Greg, say this word.
Go ahead.
PINAREN with a numlat O.
Yeah, Penn Real.
He's just, he's just.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So let's go back to Santi Santi
era.
He's one of three sons and the
the one he didn't like.
You you think he didn't like
him?
Well, he gave him the weird
name.
He just ran out of ideas.
He is the youngest.
I mean, there are 75 Jose
Ortega's.
They have the same name in this
industry and.
They're not even for the same
family.
They are the same family.
Yeah, yeah, but it's funny if
you say they're not.
OK, they're different families.
West Tampa Tobacco Company ships
the chef Rick.
Chef Rick.
And it's named after.
Rick.
Rick.
Yeah, I don't know why they felt
necessary to mention that, but
they did.
Huh.
OK West Tampa company has
announced it's latest release
which is named after Rick
Rodriguez the new chef.
Rick is a 6 by 52 Toro that uses
a Habano 2000 wrapper from an
undisclosed country over an
Ecuadorian Sumatra seed binder
and fillers from Kondaga,
Estelli, Halapa and Omatempe
regions of Nicaragua.
It is made at the Tabacolera
pages Day Nicaragua eat cigars
and MSRP of.
Greg, how much?
How?
Much are these Rick Rodriguez
cigars?
Greg Chef.
Rick, is it an LP or is it a
regular production?
Production is limited to 3000
boxes of 50 cigars.
It's a big box.
Big box.
Big box, but still not.
Huge production.
So I'm guessing there's an LE15?
Dollars. $16.00 OK, I'm going to
go under here.
I'm going to say 15.
Oh, you went the right way but
the wrong price 1299.
So I won winner winner.
It's a very nondescript large
box.
Seems like now cigars are going
the other way.
They're trying to find ways to
make them less expensive.
Well, this is interesting
because here and again we're
seeing, we saw with the VI, but
VI has been doing that for years
when it comes to the TNT and the
C4 and it's a 75 count box, not
a 50.
That's a lot of cigars that
yeah, that's a lot of bones,
man.
So in this scenario, I don't
know if I don't know if it's
enough to say that this is a
trend per SE, but you are there
is something to be said about
cost of boxes and manufacturing,
that's for sure.
It's definitely up in comparison
to what it used to be.
So I.
Mean it was that last year he
came out with that fancy box
that had the cutter on it that
look like a watch.
Who was that?
Rick Rodriguez?
Oh, did he?
Yes.
I mean, I'm more concerned about
the fact that he called himself
a chef.
Hey, it's a little cartoon
picture and he's got a Little
Chef.
He's got a little hat on it.
Is that what it is?
Yep.
Serious, serious.
And it's just like a little
cartoon drawing on the box, and
then the box is not painted
other than the little cartoon
drawing.
Like, why?
OK, I'm going to I'm a baseball
player.
Well, let's call Rick, see if he
likes to cook.
I don't know where he was, some
famous chef.
I don't have his number.
He's been in the store once, oh
in in his entire career.
He doesn't like me.
I've told that story before.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, when I, when I went into
Tobacco Cove in the the sun, got
very excited I was there and
interrupt the the dad's meeting
with Rick Rodriguez.
So you think that because of
that he doesn't like you?
Oh, who knows?
I apologize to him.
I think that you're just drawing
conclusions.
I don't, Yeah.
I don't think that you're
significant enough for him to
care about.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm sure at this point
he doesn't even know who I am.
Yeah, maybe after I do the short
clip, he'll know who you are.
I'll I'll tag him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll say, hey, Rick.
Are we?
Are we friends with Via?
Hey.
Yeah, we are friends with Via.
Hey.
OK, then I won't tell about Sir.
OK, save that for Patreon.
OK.
OK, Oh my goodness, my phone's
going nuts over here.
Oh, it's via hey calling.
The no.
I'm getting my Best Buy
membership notifications.
The one that I.
Oh, so you got to poop?
Like, hey, just so you.
Know does it affect you when you
get a phone call from them too?
Is that the same thing?
No it doesn't.
When you go in, when he goes to
Best Buy, he has to poop.
Yeah, every single time.
He can't explain it.
I don't.
Know, I don't know.
It's weird.
Is it like the Calvin level of
the lighting in there or
something?
I mean.
What is?
What's triggering?
All the radiation from the TV's
and things that are.
Running.
Yeah, could be that.
You see a large screen TV you
want to.
Go, hey, I just like it's good
to know that I'm not alone, you
know what I mean?
Other people have that incident
when they, well, just.
You know, it'd be funny if
everybody was Best Buy.
Yeah.
Oh, me too.
Best me too.
So what is good about them?
Yeah, somebody so much purging
going on at Best Buy.
Bathrooms are so incredibly
small.
All right.
We have a portal entry if we're
done talking about these cigars
that from Chef Rick.
This one of them cook me a
sandwich, Yeah.
Next time I see him, I'm going
to ask him to make me.
Yeah, hey, yeah, he's your chef.
Hey, as long as you interrupted
your meeting, can you make me a
little?
Snake snack?
Yeah.
What's it going on?
When I talk to the guy here.
I'm a little hungry a.
Little hungry.
I hear you're a good chef.
And supposedly you're a chef, so
OK.
All right.
Former Luciano sales manager
Josh Beaver, YES, is now the
Southwest regional sales manager
for Espinosa.
Cigars What?
Get out of here.
Yes, he has.
There been no press release, but
he did make a post on Facebook.
So he was the national sales
manager for Luciano Cigars?
Wasn't he?
I believe he was.
Yeah, national, very national.
Yeah, he was the national sales
manager for Luciano.
Cigars and now he's.
Southwest regional sales, I
don't know what they refer to
the men, but yeah, but he's a
regional something for them.
OK.
So it's Southwest, right?
OK, so he's a Rep.
OK.
Yeah, I don't know.
They might call him regional
sales.
Managers, yeah, I mean, we call
you national.
Salesman.
Well, you are the National.
Salesman.
Yeah.
What the hell does that mean?
I mean, we don't have any other
ones.
You.
You.
Just take care of all of it,
right?
People go, what's your area?
You go?
Well, pretty much everything.
The whole.
Shebang.
You know where Guam is.
Yeah, yeah, we have a shebang.
Guam, we have a shebang.
Guam all.
Right, he was allegedly heard
saying.
People actually get paid.
He was so surprised when they
hired him.
Totally money involved I guess.
Oh my goodness.
You're fucking amazing, Oh my
God.
Just shares of stock, allegedly.
That's what he said.
Allegedly, allegedly allegedly
Apparently, we don't.
Know well Josh, welcome
congratulations and to making it
to the other side, yeah.
Yeah, Yep, you made it.
You made it to the white hat,
the white hat side of the.
Industry.
The white hat side of the
industry.
Where?
Where?
Where paychecks may be small,
but at least they come.
They're accurate.
Oh, Greg.
So how do you feel about that,
Greg?
You're amazing, Paul, man.
You're amazing.
Oh.
There's a better story, but I'm
not allowed to tell that one.
Can't tell that one on.
TV can't say that one can't.
Say that it's good stuff, good
stuff, good stuff.
I think he's a good, He's going
to be a good addition.
He seemed like a nice enough guy
the few times we met him.
Yeah, when I had good, you know,
I met him a couple times and I
had it was a pleasant.
There wasn't, there was no, no,
you know, he seemed like a guy
he want, he seemed like he we
worked really hard, you know.
Yeah, he was very loyal the
first time we met him, but
that's slowly dissipated, so
maybe he'll be loyal again.
Well, you know, listen, here's
the thing about, I can't go far
in the detail on this, but like,
here's like the thing, the whole
thing about loyalty, you know,
like, never mind, never mind.
Can't, can't do it.
Never mind, what am I saying?
What am I saying?
I mean, I'm sure that.
Apparently Chef Rick likes to
make things.
Yeah, and I'm sure the coop's
going to give it a good rating,
whatever it is.
Yeah, he's number one, Number
one.
All right, it's time for the
industry's favorite game.
What's the score?
Hey, you even got the flicks.
That's right.
Oh man, you gave him the thing
again.
Sorry, it just came with the
seat.
All right.
First Cigar, May 31st, 2026.
Brooks Whittington, Cayman
Cigars, The Cayman Cigar Company
Broadside Robusto, BXP.
Mike.
What?
OK, I'll take.
I'll go.
I'm going to go 86. 85.
He's trying to read again.
He can't.
It was.
Here's the thing though, he
can't read.
That's what I'm talking room.
That's what I'm trying to
explain to you is he can't.
All right, it's a Cayman cigar
company.
Tucky, Broad, Tucky.
What?
The oh, tucky, that's.
Great.
Yeah.
Spell that TUHIE Cayman Cigar
company broadside Robusto BXP
Country of origin is Nicaragua
factory de la Calera familia
disla rapper USA Connecticut
broadleaf binder Indonesian
filler Nicaragua link 5 by 52
it's pressed and they smoked 3.
87.
Sticking with 85.
Clue #1 The Broadside delivered
a rich, full flavored profile
with creamy cedar, toasted
bread, coffee bean and cocoa
notes that stayed balanced and
enjoyable throughout the entire
smoke. 8785.
Construction was excellent
overall, with strong smoke
production, easy draws, and a
smooth progression from medium
strength to medium full without
becoming overpowering. 87. 80.
5.
Third clue While flavourful, the
three samples became almost
identical by the final third,
and the need for burn
corrections in all three cigars
during the second third hurt the
overall experience.
This could be a result of Never
mind Damn.
Reuse Bovidus.
Reuse bovidus, Possibly
switching out tobacco at
inappropriate times, I don't
know.
Yeah, 86. 85.
Final thought, absolutely love
the idea behind Cayman's Cigar
Company's business model and
while I have not smoked many of
the company's products, I was
very interested to see what it
brought to the table.
I found two of the broadside
Robusto BXP to be toasty, earthy
and slightly sweet with some
nice transitions and decent
balance.
Having said that, the light
campfire note that was present
in the second third made his
profile more complex, but sadly
it only lasted for the 1st 2/3
before dissipating completely.
I'm curious what their business
model is.
There's no mention of that.
What's their business model?
He said he's very happy to smoke
these because he's intrigued by
their business model.
You guys heard of this company
at all?
No.
Not either. 86. 87. 86.
Oh yeah, I got to do that.
I got to do the.
That's what that's what Phil
Phil does.
That's what Phil does.
Excuse me?
Don't ruin the oh.
Man, off the jump already.
I'm already in a good.
I'm in a sweet spot here.
Nailed that.
All right, Second Cigar,
February 18th, 2020.
Brooks Whittington Dunbarton
Tobacco and Trust, Limited
Edition.
The Don Derma. 80 Oh wait,
you're supposed to go first now.
I go first now.
Yeah, 88.
That was what I was going to
say.
Well, you can have the same one,
it's OK. 88.
Segar reviewed the Don Derma
Country of origin, Nicaragua
Factory, Fabrica de Tobacco,
Tabacco Hoya de Nicaragua.
It's an Ecuadorian rapper.
It's a San Andreas Negro binder
filler Criolo SLE criolo 99
secco halampa and USA Wisconsin
Comstock a 6 by 48 Toro and he
smoked 3.
Greg. 88. 87.
Comment #1 The Don Derma
delivered impressive complexity,
featuring evolving flavors of
almond, espresso, walnuts, dark
chocolate, cinnamon.
A uniquely sweet retro hell that
transitions from pound cake to
Graham cracker pound cake.
Pound cake sounds delicious.
Sounds like Justin Andrews lunch
is what it sounds like.
Pound cake.
Extra piece of pound.
Double Pound Cake 88.
If you're curious as to what I'm
referencing, go back and look at
Little Debbie's Exposed with
Justin Andrews on our episodes.
You said 88, correct?
It was somewhere yesterday.
It looked like you had an anklet
on.
Yeah, my video bracelet.
My video for an ankle monitor.
No, no, no, no.
An ankle bracelet is.
It like a like.
Something like a woman would
wear.
Yes, that's what I'm implying.
Listen, I have a video for
today, but you you commandeered
it and it's it's in regards to
Justin Andrews, so we'll.
Oh, we'll do that tomorrow.
We'll put that on tomorrow's
episode.
Yeah.
Does it involve an anklet?
It might, I can't say right now,
but go ahead.
Would you?
Would you pick Greg?
Staying with 88.
I'm going to go 87 here.
Clue #2 construction was
outstanding with an excellent
draw, thick smoke production and
a burn that improved nicely
after a minor touch up, making
for a consistently enjoyable
smoking experience by Justin
Andrews and his Ankley.
He loved it with his lemon cake.
Still, still 88.
I'm going to go 87.
Clue #3 The cigar can become
ashy and A and bitter if smoke
too aggressively, requiring
these weird things.
What?
I laughing at the thing the
cigar became ashy and bitterly.
You smoke too aggressively.
So I mean was he just blow just
going away?
That's correct, requiring a
slower pace to appreciate the
blends nuance like he's smoking
too fast.
He's like, oh, too aggressive.
Is they sashy?
The the cigar did become ashy.
Don't they all become ashy?
They do, you would think.
That would make sense different.
All right, 88. 87 Final thought
There are very few blends I have
tasted over the years that nail
a combination of sweet and spicy
on the Retro Hale as well as the
Don Dharma.
At least for the 1st 2/3, the
sweetness morphs from a distinct
pound cake note in the 1st 3rd
to more of a Graham cracker
flavor in the second third
before receding noticeably into
the final third, while the spice
and black pepper exhibit the
opposite behavior.
I love Brooks.
Starting out light, the first
few puffs notwithstanding,
before taking over the profile
in the final third.
Once coarse.
Of course, the palate has its
own combination of flavors that
include a dominant combination
of coffee bean and walnut for
most of the smoking.
Time goes well with the pound
cake, but the distinctness pales
in comparison to the note of the
retro hail.
Sweet and spicy blend.
Lovers, rejoice.
This is a cigar for you, as long
as you can take the strength
that goes along with it.
So excited.
That was impressive.
Hey, so exciting.
It always need like a board, OK,
right here.
It tastes like a nut down here.
We get in the Graham cracker,
but if you go back over here we
have some pound cake.
Like a spider chart.
Right. 89.
Damn, that's where I was going.
Yeah, You know what?
I'm going to say 89 because I
think that's where it's going
to.
Go.
Really.
Yeah.
So who wins and if you guys both
pick the same thing and that's
the score?
Well, I won because I already
got the last one.
I don't think it's necessarily
true.
You split this one or you win
the day because you got 1 1/2.
Is that the way you?
Do it.
Are you forcing me to change
right now?
No, no, no, no.
It's 89 was the score.
I just don't know how to go.
With it.
Oh, so we so we both got it
right.
Yes.
No, you you don't get that.
Why do I not get that?
You don't get it because you
didn't just win.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, he didn't technically
win, but he did technically win.
No, he didn't.
He didn't win the day, but he
won.
That's what I'm saying.
Careful, we don't have much of
that stuff left.
I keep changing it every time he
hits the sparklers.
Nope.
I knew it was.
I mean you tied.
Go ahead, Greg.
I'll give you a moment.
Go ahead, go ahead.
There you go.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Only podcast in the world with
pyrotechnic.
Alleged.
No, I'm pretty sure supposedly
only cigarwood.
You know, I, I feel like I had a
little insider baseball on this
one, to be honest.
To be fair, I didn't know the
correct score.
Yes, but I do know that Ronnie's
always pissed off Ronnie's the
person that owns Secreto cigars,
right?
And, and this is his, his LE
made by Dunbarton Tobacco.
And I, I vaguely remember him
always saying that it would
didn't get a 90, but it was
supposed to, you know, it was
great and blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
So I was like, I think this is
going to be in the in the 80s.
And then, and then after
listening to that final thought,
I'm like, man, it must have been
just on the cusp.
That's why I had to go 89.
So.
I thought you might have been
familiar with it, but still,
we've never done this one.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't know it.
I just knew that Ronnie was not
happy with that.
He wanted a, you know, 90. 797.
Yeah, at least a 99.
There's a 99 somewhere but I
can't find it.
Is there?
Supposedly.
The one that the highest one
you've given us so far was like
a 97 was a dabble off or
something, right?
I think so, yeah.
Yeah, OK.
All right, perfect.
Well, Greg, congratulations.
You lost this, this category,
this round of what score?
I don't think I've ever nailed 2
back-to-back.
Have I ever nailed?
Both.
Oh no, you have not.
Yeah.
You want to send the chair, push
the button no.
No, I'm good.
I'm good, I'm good.
I just know I'm the best.
That's all that matters, Long.
As you know.
That's it, and so do our
listeners.
Yeah, as long as the listeners
know.
All right.
Triple G anything else to add
today before we let you go and
get back to work?
I don't think so.
If you like to plug any events
or any place, you're going to
be.
Yeah.
Is there any place you're going?
To be Where are you going to be
eating dinner so you can watch
your wife steal food off your
plate every.
Every day, Yeah.
You want to talk about that?
You want to talk about the
tortoises again?
Don't you have?
A vacation anywhere soon.
Yeah, you going somewhere?
Not that I know of, yeah.
No.
Oh yeah, he's not really advised
in advance.
Very.
Long you going to Venezuela?
Get some oil.
Not Venezuela.
You're going.
To check out the Strait of
Hormuz.
You know, taking a cruise out of
the Strait of Hormuz.
Yeah, yeah.
No, we're, I don't think we're
ever going to do a cruise.
We're never very we're not
cruise people.
You're not cruise people.
I don't think so.
OK, All right, well, hey, check
out chapter pod.com.
I think we have like one or two
of these bad boys left Cigar
Hustlers podcast.
Really.
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Mr. Palmer, anything else?
Nope.
Thanks for listening guys.
We got to go.
Bye bye.
Show Notes
On todays show A federal judge ordered President Donald Trump’s name removed, two giant tortoises became local celebrities for a reason no one expected, FiFA bring in the lets say “Tourist dollars”, we are facing one of the largest gender imbalances in Europe, and in cigars BOVEDA LAUNCHES SKIPPER, we’ve got some shipping notices so check your UPS tracking, a portal entry and then as always we have a double day of what’s The score!