ACHP Episode 547 Naturally Better Then The Alternative

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Before I get into the comments
from the previous show, we got a
winner to announce.
Winner winner.
For.
Chicken dinner.
I need more notice.
Yeah, you, yeah.
For this carbon fiber fiber,
carbon fiber lighter cutter set
from somebody whose name we're
not saying because they didn't
pay to be on.
The show when you touch it, does
it feel like carbon fiber?
I don't know which carbon fiber
feel like.
Like that?
Yes.
Look up my.
Finger.
We're having problems with the
fingers around here.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, yeah.
So Phil, I'm going to start with
by saying pick a number one
through 7.
Oh, only 7, huh?
Right now.
Yes, All right, three.
OK, hold on, hold on.
I know what you're doing.
That's a good idea. 123 OK, now
pick a number one through 15. 52
Give me two. 2. -4 please -4
let.
Me see here camera.
All right, back to him quickly.
He's got a name.
And your winner is.
Did your mother?
It is not at jace 1911 do.
We know who.
That is Nope.
All right, Jace 1911, reach out,
send a message to to me at
m.whatwasmynamemikep@pochiccigars.com.
Tell me who you are.
And they have to prove who they
are somehow.
So.
Yeah, I'll get 75 emails, send a
picture of your face and
whatever else you want.
The Palmer.
No, don't send pictures.
Yes, I will get this little baby
in the mail to you dude.
Sweet.
Congratulations, Sir.
Nice.
Now, now that that's out of the
way, yes, that was much easier
than what I was trying to do
upstairs.
Oh yeah, You know, I wonder how
you.
Can do that, it's gonna.
Be 75,000 comments and I'm like
I.
Wonder, I wonder if Claude can
do this for me.
And then I and then it's like,
no, sorry.
No, I can't.
Don't know.
Did you say the winner was Chase
or Jace?
Jace, JCE, 1911.
Is that the fella in California?
The race car driver.
No, no.
Oh.
No.
Well, look at that.
There you go.
Let those watch rings.
Newest responded and
unresponded.
OK, getting into the comments
from episode 5. 46.
Never mind what?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Are you sure?
Yes.
You don't want to share?
Patreon material.
No no at Mark Palmer 570 said I
didn't know the rules lol.
Greg said that when he one of
the things I had to edit.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I couldn't remember.
I knew there were three, but I
couldn't remember what the three
were, so I had to watch the
entire show.
Get to watch it.
And luckily afterwards you go
got to edit that out.
So I'm like, oh, back up a
little bit.
At CW6383 today I am sitting at
the Miami Bright Line station
listening as I wait to head
home.
And yes, Triple GI paid for the
premium Wi-Fi, so I didn't miss
the episode.
That a boy, that a.
Boy Chad Chris, Chad Weiss and
then he also wrote thirst trap
Palmer with a bunch of hearts T
money.
Damn, the step on Kevitch
brothers are really sticking at
the Palmer this morning.
I don't remember that.
I don't think we're going that
hard in the paint on you.
No, I mean, it's like an
everyday thing.
Maybe they just think all that
stuff and I'm like, no, that's
just Friday.
That's just the way it works.
At Brett Mercurio says Mike
Palmer has a thirst trap image
of him in torn jeans and red
high tops.
It appears to have been taken
down.
All that's.
The one I'm talking I've never
owned red high.
Tops.
I don't know, I think that's
true.
We'll never know, I mean.
It could be.
It sounds like a great photo.
I would like a pair of red high
tops.
I like red sneakers.
That ruck is Unchained.
That's.
Your mom.
Hello Chevron.
Paranoid Palmer is hilarious.
I like seeing my boys look out
for each other.
I put up her picture on the on
the Today show.
Oh, did you?
Yes, well, she was already part
of the you used her.
She's running a thumbnail, but
we started talking about her.
I'm going to put up her pic.
You're going.
To put her up rook's coatings I
want.
I went a few years ago on an
airboat ride.
At the end they handed us a baby
Gator without its mouth taped
shut.
I asked them.
They said it's fine, it's a it's
a baby and won't do anything.
OK.
He sent me the photos today.
Who rooks coating of him holding
the baby and the Gator bit the
guy like here on the ball of his
cheek.
They've been follow up pictures
and things so and like turned
around and not $50,000 bite and
then they pull a piece off.
It's got a couple little holes
here, but still good luck with
the 50,000.
You and Dad of Cash both have a
thing for Kurt Russell from the
computer wore tennis shoes to
Captain Ron.
The Thing escape.
The Thing escape from New York
and Miracle.
Computer wore tennis shoes goes
way back.
That's when he was a teenager.
I just want you to know if
things don't work out between
his wife and and you and you and
your wife, I think you can run.
Away he's he's been with her so.
Long you can run away with Paul.
Yeah, but she has to.
She has to die at some time.
Goldie, yeah.
Goldie Hawn.
Oh, I'm talking about.
Oh, you're talking.
About Paul, I'm talking about
your relationship, Paul, I see
you guys are bonding so well
lately.
Well, yeah, I know, but we both
like Kurt Russell, not each
other, and it's be weird.
I think like you're getting
there.
Somebody jealous?
Not at all.
OK.
Like when you say like Kurt
Russell.
I have Preston now, remember.
It's true.
It's true.
What are you saying over there?
When?
When I wasn't here for this
episode and I didn't watch
anything this morning.
When you say that he likes Kurt
Russell, what was it?
Just he was just naming off his
movies or.
Something Palmer just Palmer
loves Kurt Russell.
There was some reason he came up
on Friday's show and Greg goes,
wait, don't you have like a man
crush on Kurt Russell or
something?
Greg said that.
Greg said that to me.
Yeah, Greg used to say I look
like Kurt Russell when I rode my
motorcycle around.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And that.
That's how that's how Greg found
out.
I was like, oh, that, that's a
big compliment, Greg.
I like Kurt Russell.
I am a huge Kurt Russell.
Guy, I'm a huge Kurt Russell
man.
At David Hasselhoffman says when
Mike is running the board, his
camera is in the perfect spot.
When Phil is back there, it
looks like he is hiding behind
the mic.
We'll see the camera shot.
We'll see it.
They'll let you know there,
Baywatch.
He fixed my camera today.
I did.
I did fix this camera.
He's right though.
You don't see the microphone
when you're sitting over there.
Me, yeah.
Well, because like it's, I told
you, Mikey.
Mikey's camera is tailored for
him.
No, here's the reality is that
I'm a perfectionist.
Right, right.
Yeah.
And anything that I do and when
Phil, when I set up Phil's
camera and he's like, that's
good.
You just stop.
Yeah, now, Phil said.
Hey, do you think we can
straighten this out now that
it's been brought to my
attention?
I'll make sure it's right all
the time.
Nice.
You know what?
I like the hassle off guy.
He's a good.
Guy, he's taking care of you.
You should be.
Nice to him.
I like him, yeah.
Don't even mention that the
antennas are going off the mask.
Does he have an investment in 13
knives?
No.
No knives and a nice
Thanksgiving mask though,
apparently.
Yeah, no.
Oh, another mask.
I mean, I should mention, I'm
going to mention this one and
then I'm going to go to the
previous episode because Ben
Rowland is a little behind, OK?
Oh, is he behind that watching?
I guess so.
Oh, is.
He on mctavish time now.
No, not not quite.
OK at Bryce Field says the
generational ban is bad, would
make a black market for tobacco.
Yeah, obviously.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Over regulation is.
I'll use different words.
Over regulation is stupid.
And then from the previous
episode he needs to get
mentioned at Ben Rowland
Rowland, Rowland Rowland Rowland
Rowland.
The New World screwworm is
primarily combated by the same
way Google wanted to fight
mosquitoes.
Everyone has been tracking NWS
for two years.
It's one of few flies that eat
living flesh and screw down
towards brains or vital organs.
Can affect people as well.
Oh, now what the article said
that I that I used.
Well, I trust.
Ben.
No, no, I believe him.
Yeah, I believe we've seen some
of these drivers on the road.
Not going to his farm now
though.
I'm not getting a screw worm in
my head.
They.
Don't.
It's not here in Florida.
It's in Texas.
You.
Never know it what didn't used
to be in Texas.
Oh, OK, maybe they accidentally
let one go with all those 32
billion mosquitoes.
Right, if you want to hear your
comment read aloud on the show,
just comment below.
And there's a potential for it
to happen.
Now we are going to do this for
the Patreon.
Oh, I didn't know what you're
throwing.
Oh God.
Oh, Jesus.
That was a perfect.
Throw.
There was so much light involved
in that.
That was a perfect.
They were.
They're reflective, so they're
sparkling as they're flying in.
Front of the light.
That was a perfect throw.
We are going to smoke.
Now I know how those deers feel
right before they get smacked by
the clerks.
They're in line the.
Conejos.
The rabbit.
The Rabbito.
The Conejo.
Back there you go, four O 1.
By Cordova Morales.
New release This is brand new.
He's very new.
He's very new.
Brand new.
Mix it up a little bit here.
Oh God, that's broken.
That's a that's a little better.
All right, and let's get on with
the show, buddy.
I'm sniffing myself.
On with the show.
A Bing bong.
I haven't had one yet.
I have nothing to cut the sign
with.
Oh no, I have a punch.
Reports from May 2026 indicate
that Meta ended a contract with
Kenyan outsourcing company Sama.
What did Sama do for them,
Michael?
I'm sick.
Kenyan.
They got rid of a Kenyan group
called Sama S AM A.
They went in and they regulated
and banned people randomly from
groups.
I think.
No.
I think they helped connect meta
to tribal countries.
It's 13.7g by the way.
Thank you very much.
I don't know what the size is.
Me neither, it's awkward.
Yeah, it's not going to be
anything, so just figure out if
it waste.
Is it on the box?
Leading to the layoff of 11108
data.
I know, I know, there's ANNOTA,
the people that watch the data,
this group, what they did is
they.
Annotators.
Annotators.
Annotators.
Maybe they went through every
piece of video footage that Meta
Glasses recorded.
Oh, we're free.
Or saw.
They've let them.
They've let them gone.
Wow.
So it's not so everything that
you do with your glasses.
Yeah, somebody in in, in where
was and Kenya watches the video
and logs it.
Oh yeah, yes, you know what I
got to do with my meta glasses
this weekend?
Are you allowed to say this?
Are you allowed to say it on the
air?
Yeah.
Are we going to find out from
Kenya what it was anyway?
I mean, you could probably speak
to a Kenyan.
They'll tell you I'm.
Sorry, what is it?
What'd they say?
Caught.
I caught a fish.
Oh.
While you were coaching.
Deep sea fishing.
Oh, look at you.
Yeah.
Oh, it was awesome.
You and Greg went, huh?
With Ruckus, With.
Greg, I went with Fred.
Rui, I was part of that.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, that's all we down the keys.
He didn't have that kind of.
Time.
I'm going to tell you right now.
Palmer's face drooped down real
quick when he said that.
Oh my.
God.
The layoffs came shortly after
workers spoke to journalists
about reviewing highly sensitive
footage captured by Meta's AI
smart glasses, including
recordings of people undressing,
using the bathroom, other
private moments and their
children.
Mehta said it terminated the
contract because the contractors
allegedly failed to meet
standards, while Sama disputed
that explanation and said it had
not been informed of any such
deficiencies.
The controversy was fueled
broader concerns about privacy
and smart glasses.
Separate reports this month
revealed that Mehta has been
testing facial recognition
related technology for its smart
glasses and AI apps, prompting
criticism from privacy
advocates.
Meta says the technology has not
been released to consumers and
that no final decision has been
made on deployment.
OK.
Couple things here.
First and foremost, what did you
expect?
Did you think that they were,
that that wasn't going to
happen?
No, I what do you look what you
yelling at me?
For I'm not this isn't I can.
Write the article.
This is just kind of blanketing
statement.
I was a little surprised that
they had hired someone to just
go through the footage and then
fired them when they started
talking to reporters saying this
is what we're seeing on the
footage that they're paying us
to watch, right?
I mean, it's kind of smart.
You can think about then.
I mean, somebody's probably
doing it with your phone,
anything you record anywhere,
somebody, I mean, you don't
think about that, you know, when
you're making the sex tape with
your wife with the glasses on,
doing APOV thing or whatever
it's called, you know, and then
there and then there's some guy
in Kenya going, oh, look at
this.
Here they go.
Railing her.
Log One Man, One Woman April
7th, 8:00 PM.
That was super specific, that
whole situation.
Wow.
Yeah, well, they mentioned that
in the article with the people
having No, I don't have any.
I can't afford those.
They're too expensive and my
wife's not gonna let me.
Do this, you know anything?
He's got wavies.
Hey WAVY, there's only one
camera and it's not really
clear, right?
Is is 8:00 PM your hammer time?
Is that what?
You're saying yeah, he turns
into MC, puts on the pants and
everything like right?
Put on the big puppy pants.
Your show ends at 8:00.
You're like, all right.
I put on my red high tops and my
torn jeans and then just.
You, you look.
You look.
At Hammer time.
You look at your wife and you
go, Are you ready?
Oh, I love that video.
Oh, it's so hot.
In here, it's so hot.
She was put on the red high
tops.
Yes, ma'am.
Get on that horse, you stallion.
Yeah, Kurt.
Yeah, Kurt, Get on that horse,
Kurt.
That's right.
Call me Mr. Russell.
Here, no, it's what was his name
in Escape from LA and escaped.
From Oh Snake.
Snake.
You call me Snake?
You call me Snake?
Oh.
I'm saying I'm more like Captain
Ron.
Yeah, Captain Ron.
Captain Roll is dope.
Captain Roll.
It was a good movie.
Yeah, OK.
All those movies are good.
I don't like the Santa Claus
stuff though.
OK, so for one like I, you
almost expect, you know, big
corporations to be doing stupid
shit with your videos.
You're not surprised.
Yeah, it's like, Oh my God.
But when you bought them, you're
not thinking some guy in Kenya
is going to be logging the
footage with my glass.
I'm thinking somebody's probably
going to watch my videos, all
right.
Oh yeah, of course, of course.
So I mean that's going to be
digital cameras of any kind.
That.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's the first thing.
The second thing is I'll just
wait here patiently until the
news article comes out that
somebody hacked into Meta and
they have all the videos.
Oh great, now you just give
that.
Idea, because I didn't give
anybody that idea.
Somebody's already thinking of
it.
Yeah, there was some guy in the
in the Middle East thinking
about it, you know.
With two rocks and one missile.
And then when he watched our
show, he was like, oh, great
idea, buddy.
I come to this show to learn
about cigars and I figure out
how to corrupt the entire world.
I love this show I have.
New Kardashian video, you know.
You know what's even crazier
about this whole situation is
they're allowed to do this, but
if you sit outside someone's
windows with no curtain and look
at something, then you're you're
arrested, you're in trouble.
Greg, you need bail again.
Sounds like Phil's previous
experience.
You.
Know what's kind of bullshit?
You know, what's really kind of
messed up is, you know they
could do this, but I can't even
look at my neighbour's master
bedroom and watch him undress.
The weird thing is he lives next
door to his parents.
Yeah, no, no, the other side.
The other side, yeah.
Yeah, I just think it's crazy,
man.
Like, I see all these news
articles all the time.
Like these people should be in
trouble.
Like what?
Oh, it's OK.
It was meta.
Oh well.
You.
Well, you accepted the terms and
agreement.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Before I sit outside your house
on Saturday night, sign this
paper.
You you hit.
I agree and it said we may view
your videos for analyzation.
What was a couple of years ago,
the What's the electric cars,
the Teslas were recording people
in their houses.
Really.
How are they recording them in
the houses the cars were just
drive in?
No, the 360 camera, yeah.
You parking in your garage, you
leave the back door open.
They could crack into it and
tilt the camera towards the
door.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and then watch you do The
Dirty on the washing machine or
something, huh?
At 8:00 PM on April 7th, right?
8:00 PM on April 7th.
Right, with WAVY glasses with.
WAVY, My name is Snake.
My name is Snake.
Well, look, I'm not surprised.
No, but Meadow saying it was
that we're not mad at them for
telling everybody we're doing
it.
We're they just didn't do it
right.
Yeah, they they screwed it up,
Yeah.
Yeah, they told.
Someone tell people they're
watching their videos, come on.
Guys, this is how this whole,
this is how society works.
It's like when you have the most
money, you get away with all of
it, right?
And then as it kind of trickles
down, like the the smaller
amount of cash you have, the
more trouble you can get in.
But if you do this stuff when
you're rich and you and and you
do this, if you add baby oil,
you get in lots of trouble.
Well, no, you know, I mean, I'm
bumping.
I'm bump a lot.
A lot of trouble is 2 years in
prison.
I mean, I mean two, I mean,
that's two years, you know, to
get back.
Actually, whatever.
Yeah, but yeah, 2.
Years.
It's not like he's doing a hard
time.
Dude.
Not making little rocks out of
big.
Rocks the rumors and the
articles that you hear.
He did some despicable things.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying he shouldn't be
there.
What I'm saying is, is if you
had baby oil, it doesn't matter
how rich you are, you're in
trouble.
Oh, you're saying baby oil is
the great, the equalizer?
Equalizer thank.
You.
Yeah, it's like, like Mark
Zuckerberg may maybe some type
of weirdo, but he'll never get
in trouble.
Goes go.
Oh, man, this company I had,
they were the ones watching the
glasses.
Yeah.
We didn't do it.
What?
Me.
I had no idea.
Yeah, we.
We subcontracted that out.
He's on the phone now going
what's what country smaller than
Kenya.
We get somebody.
Else to watch the cameras.
Yeah, some lady comes out, she's
like, yeah, we just had a watch
party at Mark's house.
Was it baby oil?
No.
It's fine, yeah.
Meadows highlights of the week.
Right, these are.
The These are the best ones here
we.
Go watch this watch this Palmer
guy over here watch this look
at.
Look at this guy catching a
fish.
What's he doing to the fish?
Oh God.
Why is his friend rubbing oil on
him?
Oh, it's baby oil.
They're done.
They're dead.
It's over.
My videos don't even hit the top
five on the like the rating
scale or whatever.
It's it's.
Football stuff, really good
fish.
It was a good fish.
It was a good fish.
I got to tell you, man, these
guys, the way that they, they,
the fishing trip in itself, the
dudes that ran it, bro, next
level.
I mean, just impeccable work.
And when you start to see it and
you break it down, you're like,
my God.
They just, they knew where to
fish.
They had bait ready at all
times.
They they altered things when
things were going sideways and
this guy worked his ass off the
entire time.
And then on the way back, the
entire boat was cleaned before
we docked and after we docked,
they took care of the fish.
I'm like, it was impeccable.
It was incredible, really was.
Yeah, I mean to find the fish.
They probably have a dope fish
Finder.
I don't.
I think it's even better than
that.
They they have locations tagged
where they do well at and they
just keep going till they don't
hit.
Anymore, I think that they've
been doing this for, yeah,
they're generations.
Yeah, they're professionals.
Yeah, they're not messing
around, dude.
Not at all.
They know where Nemo's school
is.
Yeah, and it was really cool,
man.
And it's like, man, these guys
are next.
Level.
So you went on a small boat, not
the big one.
Yeah, I mean it was like a what?
Like a 60 footer, 5060 footer.
No, but I mean, I'm sorry I've
said that wrong.
Did you go with a lot of people
or just your party?
Our party was 6 people and that
was it.
OK, so that's that.
Yeah.
That's a smaller charter is what
they call that.
OK, a private charter.
Sorry, I went on like a, you
know, a general public charter.
Yeah, don't ever do that.
That's horrible.
I got to.
I got to be honest with you, for
one, I don't think I'll, if I
ever do it again, it's all going
to be with these guys.
I'm not.
I'm not doing it with anybody.
Else like you've been in first
class, now you can't go back to.
Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
I'm like, dude, I didn't have to
worry about a thing.
And you know.
They fed him grapes while he was
fishing.
I don't know, dude, like I
always constantly analyze
everything that I'm doing no
matter what it is.
When you, I mean like when you
sit down and eat, like we've
talked about the water, right?
Like is my glass of water full
or not right?
It when it gets low, are you
paying attention to it because
you're not making any more money
on it?
But like, do you got me right?
Little things like that, you pay
attention to all those details
and you know, you could tell the
employees and the people that
are just impeccable about what
they do and like, man, that is
exactly how I want things ran
right.
So, and as far as our my
businesses, as far as our
businesses, you know, I'm like,
man, that's just so locked in
and you always try and edge
towards being more and more
dialed in and on that level.
And when you see somebody do it,
it's just like, damn, that's
incredible.
I mean, we even when I went,
when skip and I went to, he took
us to Disney, We did the VIP
thing with, with, with Teddy and
Fiorella Fiorella and we were
talking.
We always have these kinds of
conversations, man.
And one of the things he always
says is like, you know, an
employee that like, or a person
that picks up a piece of trash
just to pick up the piece of
trash.
Person picks up the piece of
trash just because somebody else
is watching.
A person walks over the trash
and like, we're walking and the
VIP guest that that that is
hosting us, she's in front and
there's a piece of garbage that
kind of trails by, picks right
up, boom, throws in the garbage
and skips.
Like, did you see that?
I'm like, you bet your ass I saw
that, you know, because that's
the person, right?
You know that that guy, that guy
or girls is locked in and
they're they're here to deliver
and like it's just second nature
to them at this point.
They know exactly what to do,
how to handle the situation, and
they're on top of everything,
right?
That's who you want to surround
yourself by.
So sorry to deviate off the
topic.
Oh well, I mean, we're off of
done with that story anyway, all
right.
Central Florida officer racked
up over $10,000 on a dead man's
credit card.
You know what?
Good for him.
Good for him.
Then the family has to pay the
credit card, no?
No one pays that.
Why don't they pay it?
No one.
'S paying a dead man's credit
card.
Well, he's not really a police
officer.
He's a guard at the prison.
And the dead man was his
girlfriend's father.
OK.
So that's OK.
It's not that it's OK, it's just
that, look, I'm rooting for the
little guy here, right?
The credit card companies are
24.99% APR compounded date.
But it's stealing.
It is.
Yeah, I'm aware.
So that's OK.
This is more Robin Hood ask than
it is for then, you know, taking
money out of your small
business.
I don't think he was paying off
somebody's medical.
Bills if I'm going to pillage
visa let.
Me ask you a question Palmer.
Yes, if a crackhead when stole
the crack from the dealer, would
you be mad at the crackhead?
Is it against the law to steal
crack from a crackhead?
I think it's against the law in
all worlds of everything
involved in this whole
conversation.
Right.
No, I wouldn't be upset if they
stole if a crackhead stole crack
from a crack dealer.
No, they.
Wouldn't be mad about that.
Right.
Right.
I mean, they're all breaking the
law together, so.
I mean, this is pretty much
mafia.
Credit card companies, They're,
they're pretty much mafia.
Dude, it's ridiculous 24.99%.
Maybe he's got a low APR on his
card.
Who?
There's no way.
There's no way.
Guess what?
I don't know, he probably died
of stress from his credit card.
And he got popped anyways, and
he's going to, you know what I
mean?
If we have credit card fraud
upstairs, do we get stuck with
the?
Of course.
OK, so then the credit card
company's not out, the company's
not being paid whose goods you.
Got Well, that's not credit card
fraud.
No one's reporting on his fraud.
It wasn't fraud.
The family did when he started
getting the bills after her dad
was dead.
Oh, they said, hey, this isn't
real.
Hey, yeah, what are these?
I mean, he's been dead for a
year and now we've got $10,000
racked up on his credit card
bills.
Well, it's a false claim because
probably nobody like if you
don't report the card stolen.
What are you?
Sorry, if you don't report
report the card stolen then
there's no you can't.
That's not a real claim yet.
So unless they report it stolen,
that'd be the only time.
Yeah, then they said the card's
stolen, then the merchant's out.
Right.
So if you have a card in your
name and you die, it's still a
good card.
I mean, your family's not on the
card at all.
It was just your.
Card and then somebody used.
It.
Yeah, somebody started using it
the day actually started using
it the day after the guy died.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess I can't see that,
you know, billing and shipping
match or whatever, you know, I
mean, or they just made a
purchase locally.
I can't see that falling on the
merchant.
I can see Visa being pissed off
and then charging this guy.
And they probably did.
He's probably going to do, you
know, 2-3 years in prison.
But without getting further into
the story before you tell me,
and my point is that like, you
know what, just do a better job
Visa.
When the guy dies then turn off
the card.
Well, they don't know the guy
died until you call him.
I mean, when my dad died and we
had to, we were trying to switch
the credit cards because he was
the primary.
As soon as we said he died,
they're like, oh, they turn it
off.
Mom didn't.
And Mom didn't have any credit
cards, right?
Yeah, but somebody has to call
like you just said.
Yeah, yeah, you do have to call.
Yeah, because Visa's not worried
about the transition or anything
else.
They're worried about getting
screwed out of the cash, right?
Because I'm sure that happens
all the time.
Well, he died.
Well, he has $40,000 in credit
card debt, like.
OK, well give him a call.
I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah, ring a Ding, Ding.
Well, are you going to pay for
this?
Like no, I'm not.
I didn't Co sign on his credit
cards.
I'm sorry that he died, you
know, like.
He's been charged trying to get
to the charges.
He's been charged with Grand
Theft, fraudulent, fraudulent
use of a credit card, unlawful
use of a two way communication
device, unlawful possession of
personal identification
information and criminal use of
personal identification of a
deceased person.
Yeah, so he's at least 10 years.
No.
Yeah, that's a lot of, that's a
lot of stuff.
I don't think he's doing 10.
And it may be federal.
And it's $10,000, so that makes
it a felony.
It's only 10K. $10,300.
Yeah, anything over 10,000 is a
is a felony.
That's correct dude.
We're talking.
About 10 GS here.
And they said 10,000 what, $3?
10,300.
Oh, I was about to say like man,
10,000 three, they screw that
guy.
That's wild.
Yeah.
They caught him because when the
girlfriend started looking at
the cards she also had text
messages or at the bill she had
text message from the boyfriend
on the same day from the
locations.
So he's an idiot on top of
everything.
Yeah, sounds like it.
Well, he's an idiot to use the
cards right.
Right.
Sure.
All all I'm saying is that oh.
Your dad died.
Let me just shut him down.
I'll get rid of all these cards
for you.
I'll get rid of these.
It'll be fine.
Yeah.
And his ID.
It'd be funny that they were all
like Hard Rock chart charges.
Right.
No way me, no way me, no way me
stop.
I got the extra 400 for being
the first time in gambling.
Where are you, honey?
I'm at Hard Rock Casino.
Right.
Oh, you want me to bring you
some home for dinner?
It's all going to work out,
don't worry.
I'm going to.
Use mine.
I'm up.
I'm up today.
I'm.
Going to use these cards.
I'm going to make 30 GS.
I'm going to pay that back pay.
Them off.
It worked for Grady, Judge.
Grady, Judge Very upset.
Oh.
Over in Polk County.
Yeah, it's not a good one.
Yeah, it's not a not a somebody
you want to piss off.
Look man, you know he tried to
stick it to the man and he lost.
Well, he's trying to stick it to
the man he was trying to take
advantage.
Yeah, of the man.
A visa or AMAX?
I don't think it's thing.
I don't think he was thinking,
you know what?
I'm going to teach them a
lesson.
I'm going to use my girlfriends
dead dad's cards just to show
them what they're doing wrong.
No, he was like, I'm getting me
a new TV.
Yeah, because screw them, I.
Don't think he was thinking
screw them.
He was thinking I'm getting me a
new.
TV.
Oh, you know what he was
thinking.
Yeah, yo, you know what he was
thinking.
I'm just.
Assuming.
Well, I'm assuming also. $10,000
that's 150 incher.
He doesn't sound like he's that
smart where he's doing this to
be Robin Hood.
I mean, he was a police officer.
He had to be something he.
Was a prison guard.
He's.
Not a police officer.
He gets them as they've already
committed the crimes.
He's not worried about who's
committing the crimes.
He apparently thought this.
This is not They're never going
to catch me.
Lisa should have gifted them the
bonus.
I think you're a you're a prison
guard.
You got to deal with all this
shit all the time.
You know what?
10 KS on us.
Have a good day.
I.
Think prison guards are sworn
in?
I'm I'm.
Well, yeah, they are, yeah.
Yeah, Can you imagine being a
prison guard and all the crap
you got to deal with?
I would so, so funny story, my
buddy Ricky.
You know what?
I go to you.
Go to you.
Go ahead.
I know.
Thank you.
You know my buddy Ricky?
Yeah, actually, let's do this
one because I want to see your
reaction.
OK, so he actually just became a
prison guard.
Yeah, in Orange County.
I think you told us that
already.
I'm not sure.
Oh, did I?
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
Oh.
Oh God.
Oh, can't believe it.
End of the story.
That's for the next story.
Until the next story.
I sent you guys something, OK
Think your personalized license
plate is clever.
Florida officials have released
their annual list of vanity
plate requests that were denied
for being too offensive.
So there's a hundred of them on
the list.
I obviously don't have 100, but
I have the top seven.
We're going to try to figure out
what it is that they say I.
Can tell you all these.
Oh, I could.
You alright tell me the top one
because I don't even know what
the top 1 is.
I can only get like 3 or 4 off
that list. 000 KFS What's that?
OK, fuck.
Shit, I don't know.
I think, oh, I can tell you all
these.
Well, I know the next.
One and you struck out.
What's the 06 ho?
Yeah. 2006 Ho yeah.
That's obvious.
Yeah, Oh fucks.
Yeah, that's like 0 fucks.
Oh.
Hell no.
What's the next one?
I'll put this.
Up here I thought that was
weird.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's a good one.
I don't know.
Oh my to FYM four year
something.
Oh shit.
Yeah, oh shit.
And.
Then first time motherfucker.
What did?
What did we say the top one was?
We don't know yet.
We don't know.
All right, guys.
Red as red AS000 KFS or suck FS
and violates.
Oh, you asked Claude?
Yeah.
Oh, won't tell you what it is.
Suck FS, even Claude, you're
going.
Yeah.
Oh, that's bad.
Whatever.
Suck absence.
OK.
I don't know.
All right, zero my to FYM.
Yeah.
Zero my to FYM meaning.
Oh yeah.
The phrase highly profane is
best known for one of the
specific customized license
plate configurations.
Oh my effing your you mother
effer I guess.
OK.
This.
This is a kid.
This is a kid thing.
Yeah, and then one fast MF,
that's the bottom one.
Oh yeah.
What I mean, who cares about
this?
I mean, I don't, you know what I
mean?
Like if somebody put that on
their license plate, like, Oh my
God, you know?
Right.
Oh, there's, like I said,
there's a hundred of them that
they've rejected, right?
Yeah, most people.
Wouldn't even.
I wouldn't have figured.
That out, Nobody's picking up on
that.
No, you know, Oh shit, that'd be
funny.
Who's the person at the DMV that
goes, you know what this means?
It's got to be somebody who's
looking through these.
They hire a 14 year old.
Oh, I know what that means.
Claude, run them through Claude,
see what we get.
Yeah.
Can you make my custom plate
please?
What do you like to say?
I'll ask Jax if he knows what a
couple of those are like.
Tell me what this top one means.
You know what this top one
means?
Oh yeah.
And you go, Oh yeah, that's.
Yeah, you're not allowed to play
Fortnite anymore.
Yeah.
Where you learning this?
Where are they?
Teaching this stuff right?
We went to the gym together
today and we were working out
and he was screwing around a lot
and I had to give him the look.
I'm all, I'm all good with you
playing around and having fun,
but this is we got a lock in
here like this is.
We got to put in the work, dude.
We were at the Iron Paradise.
He, he lately he's been saying
this one, there's this guy he
was actually at used to be at
the gym a couple times.
His name's like Ashton or
whatever, right?
He ran up against the speed.
I am speed.
Or Oh yeah, yeah.
And he one of his things.
One FSMF.
That's him.
Yeah, that's him, one of his
little shorts.
Is he?
He goes through like this whole
process in the morning and he
says something like, all right,
now make 10, make 10,000, call
it a day or something like that.
So Jax is just saying all right,
go make 10,000 today and then
call it a day.
I'm like, oh, all right, cool,
man.
Yeah, that'd.
Be great.
Daddy wants a fishing boat.
Yeah, right.
All right, a Volution County
woman is facing charges accused
of using the can of wasp spray
against another driver.
Tammy Jones told deputies she
was driving down MLK Beltway
when when a Kia pulled up next
to her, document show.
Jones told deputies the driver,
later identified as the victim,
was shouting at her for
allegedly brake checking her and
the victim threw something that
Jones's car.
That's when records show Jones
told the deputies that the
victim said You're lucky I don't
have my gun with me.
Oh boy.
According to the Rush report,
Jones then prompted her to reach
into the back seat, grab a can
of wasp spray and spray it in,
spray it at the victim, report
states.
The victim told deputies when
she pulled up next to Jones.
Jones said just started yelling
at her.
Then she sprayed her and and her
vehicle.
I know what you're thinking.
Illegal.
Illegal.
The report says the victim told
deputy she wanted to press
charges and deputies found
probable cause to arrest Jones.
You got to be 1 mad person to
just go.
You know what?
I'm a spray with all that wasp
spray I have in the back of the
car.
I have wasp sprayed in my car
from those wasp I had in my car.
What can I do to you?
Right, I don't have my gun.
What do I?
What's the worst?
Spray.
What's the worst thing that
happened to you with road rage?
I've never really had an
experience with road rage other
than maybe somebody give me the
finger or something.
Yeah, that was it.
What about you, Phil?
I think I've told this story
before, so I got into this this
time.
Where?
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are you talking about the
Christmas tree, Christmas lights
or whatever when you're you in
the Christmas lights, Saint
Augustine?
No, no, no.
This is totally different.
Yeah, Yeah, that was different.
Yeah.
You know what?
That was probably the worst one
actually.
These were Easter lights.
It was a different holiday.
Yeah, those were probably, that
was probably the worst one.
But I did like I had this thing
Robbie Doyle and me started
doing like thumbs down on people
to see people's reactions.
You drive by.
Just going.
And you're like that.
So there was this lady on I-4
that like almost hit me going
over the bridge here in Sanford.
So I got up next year.
I was like, and who's in the car
with me?
Oh, Chet.
Chet was in the car with me.
I was like, man, I was like, if
this lady flicks me off when I
get up next to her, I'm going to
give her the thumbs down.
And he was like, really?
I'm like, yeah, watch this.
So I got up next to her and sure
enough, there she goes.
Big Bird write to me, right?
So I gave her the big like that.
And her face was like, she was
so surprised.
So then she followed me all the
way to my exit in Deltona, got
off at the exit, came up next to
me, rolled her window down, had
me roll my window down.
And she's like, I got to be your
friend.
That was probably the best thing
I've ever seen.
And then she tried to give me a
beer from her passenger seat.
I was like, no, I'm good.
I don't need a beer.
I.
Got this warm beer over here by
my wash spray.
I'm good I.
Was going to spray you but.
Florida just giving beers out
while you're Rd. raging.
I was gonna say, is that
something bad?
Does that mean something?
We don't know if you drive up
and go.
I just, I just think it's funny
'cause I don't think people know
how to react.
I had somebody throw a can at me
once.
Oh, a can like a like a soda can
full.
I don't know if it was full.
Oh, I did have a go ahead.
Elaborate.
I mean, that was it.
I mean, I don't even know what I
did.
Yeah, I don't know what I did.
But we were down going I4 in in
the city and like they went off
on an exit and they were far
away from me and they still hook
shot it and hit my car.
I was like, damn, it was pretty
impressive.
Wow.
I don't really get mad.
Like I don't, you know, I'm, I'm
well past that age of getting
agitated and just hunting
somebody down.
More often than not, if I screw
up or something, I usually just
say, hey, sorry, just kind of
apologize and just keep it
moving.
Oops.
Universal, I'm sorry.
Sorry, sorry about that.
Didn't.
See him when it changed.
Yeah, I screwed that up.
My bad.
I had a a buddy one time when I
was younger, I used to have this
Mazda 3 and he got so angry at
somebody on I-4.
He was in the passenger's.
It wasn't even me.
He got so angry and remember,
well maybe you still have it,
but they used to have like a
little change dish in the cars.
So he grabbed 2 pennies out, sat
on the window, like rolled down
the window and sat on the ledge
and threw the pennies at the
guy's windshield.
How much?
I'm like, dude, he got back and
I was like, dude, he like, you
could seriously hurt somebody,
you know, or crack his
windshield and he swerves off
and hits his, hits somebody or
something.
He's like, yeah, well, you know,
fuck that guy, man.
I'm like you, you got some anger
issues.
He sat on the ledge of the
window.
Yeah, he's, he's homeless now,
but yeah, he's, he's a problem.
He's homeless now, OK all.
Right.
Do you have video today,
Michael?
I do not have a video today all.
Right, we're rolling into cigar
news.
Which is great.
So we're at 42 minutes.
I just cut a story out too.
Avowed is adding Awakening
Rhapsody sampler for Father's
Day.
Awakening.
Are we getting this?
Maybe if you want.
I don't not my area.
Father's Day 2026 Avowed cigars
are offer it's Awakening cigar
and a sampler that contains the
blend paired with three
different wrappers.
The new Avowed Awakening
Rhapsody includes one of each of
the following the Awakening
Ecuador hybrid Awakening Black,
which is an Ecuador Corojo.
Coro.
Awakening White, which is a
Connecticut the Black uses a
wrapper that the company's
Hallowed hand line uses, while
White uses the wrapper from the
New Dawn and said all three
cigars use the same blend in
Ecuador and Habano binder with
Coriojo 98, Pennsylvania Piloto,
Cubano and San Vincent fillers.
Each sampler has an MSRP of I'm
going.
To say 100 bucks. 60. $90.00.
Boom, production is like crush
again. 1000 samplers of cigars
are being made by.
Crushing.
Kellner's Cigars in the
Dominican Republic.
All right, that's it.
I don't have anything else to
say about it.
That's all you got.
That's all I got to say about
that.
Well, there was a quote, but I'm
cutting the quotes out.
They're not really museum.
We have gone through various
blends and all these years we
have accomplished.
Great.
Everyone likes a father.
We thought we would make
something for fathers.
So here's his Father's Day,
Father's Day, Saturday.
Now here's what I'm going to.
Tell you I'm bubbling.
Yeah, you're bubbling good.
Oh, now you hear it.
Yeah, he can.
He can because he's louder.
He's he's talking a little
louder.
What's the time?
4354.
This is a long bug.
Yep.
Now here's what I'm going to
tell you this These cigars are
made by our friends at Small
Batch.
So I like Small Batch Andrew and
I'm popping again.
No, Andrew and Ben are awesome,
yes, and they're making some
good cigars.
So yeah, I'm not against getting
it.
What I will tell you though is
that I'm so entrenched right now
and revamping and rebuilding 3
sites simultaneously, it's like
oh boy.
We always miss out on this kind
of stuff upstairs, like a
Father's Day sampler or, you
know, something along those.
Lines because we usually can
just build our own.
Well, no, no, that's what I
meant.
We usually we don't think about
it in time to do it.
It's usually like a after the
fact thing or like about any
type of holiday thing.
Well, let's build 1 today.
Well, I.
Was going to bring it up at the
meeting today.
That's a great idea.
And then we still have two
weeks, so.
We'll put it out.
Well, we have those bags
leftover from the cigar life
thing back there, those humi
pack bags.
OK, we can do that or.
Whatever, put in regular cigar
hustler bags.
Whatever.
Yeah.
Well, we also have that, but we
also have the Camacho deal going
on too.
Oh, that's right, we have the
Camacho deal going too.
Maybe I had something with it
for Father's Day.
Yeah, you get a raffle ticket
for the.
You get the hammer and.
Oh, you know what?
And the event is before
Father's.
Day.
What do you want for Father's
Day?
I'm not your father.
I'm not getting anything.
Is there something that you want
for Father's Day?
No.
Nope.
There's something you want for
Father's Day.
I'm.
Really down to just one child
getting me.
Something.
Yeah.
Who's the one child that gets
you something?
One child that could.
Connor.
Yeah.
Socks.
Socks.
I like socks.
I have.
I have mismatched socks on today
but they came.
As Adrian goes, you're missing 2
socks.
I'm like no no, this is the way
I bought.
Them this is how they came this.
Is how they came.
I had monkey socks and they wore
out so I had to get new monkey
socks.
Those are monkey socks.
Yeah, 1 is bananas, one is
monkeys.
That's fantastic.
I like them.
I love that.
If you like socks, you should
get those those bamboo ones.
Oh, I I don't need bamboo socks.
I don't know they I heard
they're super comfortable.
I'm.
Sure they are.
You don't even have them.
I do actually have a pair of
Miss Mccool bought me a pair
because I was like, there's no
way that these socks can be that
great.
She's like, try them.
Are they that great?
They, yeah, they're actually
really nice.
I just don't want to spend money
on them 'cause they're not, you
know, 10 bucks.
Yeah.
So what do you want for Father's
Day 'cause I feel you're locked
in.
Like what do you want?
Oh, I want a chair.
A chair, like a office chair.
No, no, a new recliner at my
house 'cause the baby's coming
soon and I want a new recliner.
Sleep where the baby's not in
your room.
Yeah, you need to what?
Why do you need a recliner?
No, it's just easier, like the
recliner I have now is like all
scratched up by the cat and it's
like falling apart if I had it.
I've had it for a long time.
You're embarrassed for the baby
to see it.
No, I just like would like a a
new one that feels that feels
nice because I'm going to be
holding the baby in that chair.
This is your 4th kid.
Fourth.
Yeah. #4 #4 He wants a recliner.
A recliner.
What do you want, Michael?
I don't know.
You really want to know what I
want?
Sure, I want.
It's, it's a little fucked up.
Oh Lord hope it's not a pair of
other glasses.
For them to erase video from
April 7th from 9:00 to 11:00.
I want to give my kids a pass to
curse and I want them all to
come up to me and to say, hey,
you're a bad motherfucker and
I'm grateful that you're my
father.
Oh, that's easy to arrange.
Your wife could pull that off.
That's all I want.
Does she know?
I mean, I mentioned it in front
of the kids.
What do you want for Father's
Day?
Here's what I want.
That's all I want.
I'm like thanks.
Every year a new curse word.
I mean, I think that we, we, we
started kind of high well.
Yeah, yeah.
You guys started the big one.
You know, I'm OK with it if it
becomes like a tradition, just
with that.
Oh, just that exact phrase.
Yeah, I should get a new word.
I kind of like that I'm a bad.
I can't.
Yeah, don't keep saying it.
We're only allowed so many bad
mofo.
He's already said two and yeah.
Oh sorry, I didn't know we were
in the count again.
I still don't have to check the
box.
I still don't have to check the
box.
We're OK.
So yeah, that's I think that's a
good gift.
Sure, all right, V, So Horny
turns to Oveja Negra for the
Ligador Phantasma, but not
another cigar.
Yep.
Be so horny, the cigar brand
from Tyler Jeffrey has announced
an upcoming limited edition that
will come from a different
factory than the one brand he is
known to have worked with.
Yeah, Ligador Phantasma is a new
5 by 50 robusto.
It uses a corojo and candela
wrapper leaves to create a
Barber pole look.
Underneath is a Habana binder
that the fillers are from
Nicaragua and the US.
All of the fillers are from the
Veso, priming the middle section
of the leaves on a vertical
tobacco plant.
Pricing has not been announced,
but production is limited to 500
bundles of 10 cigars is expected
to ship in late summer.
The cigars being made at the
Obeyed Negra in Esteli,
Nicaragua.
Early this year, Jeffrey
purchased Pipe World, an Austin
based retailer.
His Visa Horny brand is slotted
under his El Bebe Grande Cigar
LLC, while Pipe World is
licensed as the wholesale
distributor, so he's
distributing his own cigars this
time.
Yeah, yeah, that's where he's
going.
Did you guys ever get to try the
sprinkle dust?
Leprechaun dust?
Nope.
Didn't do it.
It's OK are.
You guys going to try this one?
I have no idea.
Yeah, we know.
I have no idea.
You know, I try my best not to
put pressure on Tyler.
I try my best to help Tyler, and
that's kind of where it ends for
me.
I'm not.
He did a nice little thank you
as part of this press release,
but for time I cut it out.
Oh yeah?
What do you think?
Skip Alex.
People at the different
factories he's worked with.
Yeah, MO.
That's nice.
OK.
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be great.
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
All right.
Now the big story of the weekend
this is it is a big story.
Espinoza opens up Dominican
cigar.
Well, apparently he announced
that at the.
Dojo No.
No, he announced that they would
put in a factory there at the
Lisona Palooza that he didn't go
to.
But then this week he announced
that Guy Fieri is now his
partner in the new Dominican
factory.
Do you know what this means,
Jacuzzis in every section.
You know what I mean?
I'm talking top of the line,
top.
Of the.
Line Dominican factory, there's
there's going to be a slide.
I heard there's a slide.
Hey, did you really?
Yeah, out from the lunchroom,
Yeah.
It goes.
I heard the the kitchen for the
lunchroom is amazing.
In the kitchen, Yeah.
Amazing chicken guy staff,
right?
Well, no, that's gone, but it'd
be like Burger Guy.
Is chicken guy completely gone?
A lot of knuckles.
Sandwich.
That's not Well.
It's not in Florida anymore.
Yeah, but I'm sure it still
exists.
OK, world, let's find.
Out.
Wait, is there a chicken guy at
Winter Park?
It's gone.
It's in the free trade zone,
which I guess means it's a free
trade.
The only thing they're saying
about the location?
So does that mean that they're
going to use only Dominican
tobacco?
No, but he does want to start
using some.
Oh, he's going to dabble in
using Dominican tobacco.
Chicken Guy is still open, but
the Central Florida locations
have shifted.
While the flagship location at
Disney Springs is open and
operating daily from 11:00 to
10:30, the Winter Park location
has permanently closed.
Oh, it's at Disney Springs.
There you go.
Oh, is it still there?
Yeah.
Santana Diaz, owner of Pure
Aroma Cigars, has joined as part
of the factory operations team.
As for why Espinoza decided to
open a factory in the Mineral
Republic after having operated
it in Nicaragua for numerous
years, he cited 2 reasons.
First, you said that drive from
an Aqua Des Lee is really
getting ridiculous.
He can't do that.
It is a ridiculous job, yeah.
Now it's 30 miles an hour and
there's a lot of police.
It takes 4 hours now instead of
two and he don't have that kind
of time and then two.
But again, it's still there's no
good places to eat.
Nestle is what he said.
Yeah, he said the lack, the lack
of things to do and restaurants
and has to lead to enjoy once
the work day is done.
Specifically setting the
Dominican Republic restaurant
scene as something he looks
forward to enjoying.
I love the tobacco in Nicaragua.
I love the people in Nicaragua,
but I wanted to try something
different, Espinoza said.
He noted that nothing is
changing with the Nicaragua
operation as far as cigars that
are made there.
But now they're going to be
making new ones at this new
place.
Oh yeah?
Well, I mean.
By September 1st, not.
Only that.
But he's I think that he's
hedging his bet.
Political upheaval can happen.
Sure, why not?
I mean, if you can put another
one in another country.
Yeah, why not cover your bets?
Yeah, especially when you got
Guy Fieri support.
Right.
You know Santana Diaz.
Yeah, bounce house.
Me neither.
Begin to bounce house is going
to be great.
Yeah, it's going to be a place
to cut your hair right there and
dye your beard.
Yeah, there's going to be a
Triple D episode about it, you
know?
He'd be stupid not to.
Dominican Republic in the Dr.
And another D on it.
Dominican Republic diners drive
into Dodge DRDDDD.
Dr. Triple D That's cool.
Yeah.
So there's that.
We never get any news first from
anybody.
We never get.
We never get any news first from
anybody.
We could have slipped.
He could have slipped his dies.
We could have covered it.
He slipped it to me.
He didn't tell me about Guy, but
he's he told me about this.
He told me about the factory a
long time ago.
Yeah, why didn't we cover the
story?
Because he asked me not to say
anything.
Oh, we'll see then.
That don't count.
Well, he want to release it
where he want to release it.
Well, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Yeah, but you?
Know, I think that's like
whatever we got, we released a
lot of stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
We cover a lot of stuff.
It sounds like this is sort of
slipped out during the during
the Dojo.
Thing is, I don't think he had
planned to release it because
the way the image look, he's
like sitting like this back in
the chair, you know, doing that
thing with his face that he
does.
And he goes, you know, I'm
putting his factory in Dominican
Republic.
We got here right now.
I got to, we got to wrap this
up.
I got to go.
Yeah, all right.
Sign for the industry's favorite
game.
What's the score?
Don't hit your button yet.
Don't hit your button yet.
Players hear clues from 1/2
Wheel Cigar review and try to
predict the score before it's
revealed.
As more details are shared, the
challenge gets easier.
Or does it?
The closest guess to the actual
score wins the round.
Can you read between the lines
and predict the score?
Yes, I can.
No, hit the button.
Oh my Lord, I try to help these
people all I can't.
You try to help these people.
So much I can.
Tell what do you mean these
people?
First Cigar January 6th, 2021
Charlie Minato reviewed It's
Charlie Phil.
He's so nice, He's so nice.
January 6th, 2021 OK la corona.
Corona.
La.
Corona Corona.
That's the cigar, OK, La Corona,
Corona.
It's not from Corona, is it?
To Corona Corona. 88 I have no
idea.
I need to know the origin.
So the guess because that's
what's coming next.
Right 80.
Cigar Review de la Corona Corona
Country of Origin Unknown Oh oh
Factory unknown oh oh Rapper
unknown oh boy.
Binder unknown Filler unknown
Length 5 3/10 by 42 It's a
Corona.
We don't even know the price and
they only smoke one. 89. 80.
Clue #1 Despite the challenging
flavour profile, the cigar
delivered excellent air flow and
generally solid construction.
The draw remain functional
throughout and experience.
Sorry, functional throughout the
experience, and aside from some
tunnelling and a few touch ups,
the cigar burned well enough to
avoid major construction
complaints 88. 80.
Did you say 8?
80.
Oh, eighty clue #2 The cigar
offered a highly distinctive and
complex profile with layers of
creaminess, nuts, wood,
sweetness, earth, leather, and
pepper.
While the reviewer didn't enjoy
many of the flavors, the cigar
was undeniably nuanced and
remarkably smooth from start to
finish.
Like he talks about himself in
third person. 89. 80.
Clue #3 The flavor experience
was overwhelmingly unpleasant,
dominated by notes the reviewer
compared to stale bottled water,
cottage cheese, mustiness,
mushrooms and sourness.
This thing better not get over
60 the.
Profile was so off putting that
the reviewer questioned the
cigar storage history and
described it as one of the least
enjoyable cigars they had ever
smoked.
Oh. 77. 70.
Final thought, while it didn't
occur to me while smoking this
cigar, largely because I was
generally concerned I might
start gagging, I was reminded
when writing this review that I
watched someone go through a
very similar experience.
I was with Brooks when he smoked
in my father baseball bat, one
of our favorites.
Here we go.
A cigar, we later learned,
wasn't created with the
intention of being smoked.
You were as well smoked that.
He looked like he was about to
puke and it wasn't due to the
nicotine.
I'm guessing the storage is the
last culprit for why the cigar
tasted like this, but it was
truly awful.
There are parts of our score
sheets that read bought it but I
would still throw out now that
was more generous than how I
graded some parts.
It's not parts of this.
Some cigars are better to look
at than smoke.
Then there's whatever this was.
While our new score sheet
doesn't punish as much as it
should, this was the worst cigar
I've ever smoked in my life.
Wow.
So we found Brooks worst cigar
of his life.
We have found now Charlie's
worst cigar of his life. 62. 61.
You went the right way. 40 Yeah
Adamy love Wow, wow.
How much was a baseball bat?
I don't remember it was a
collectible.
I think it was a little rather
expensive.
No, no, no.
I mean like the score, it was
low.
It was like in the 40s, right?
I think it was in the high 40s
though.
I wonder.
What the lowest score of all
time?
Well, so far the lowest one I've
seen is 38. 38.
And we've done that one.
All right.
Second cigar for the day, March
15th, 2021.
Patrick Lagree.
There's 2 today.
Yeah, it's two.
It's 222.
Cigar.
Tuesday Drew State.
Nicaragua, It's a redone.
Nicaragua, The League of bravado
#9 Cornet. 86. 84.
The League of bravado #9 cornet
country of origin Nicaragua
Factory La Grande fabric of Drew
State rapper Connecticut broadly
from the USA.
Binder from Brazil filler,
Honduras and Nicaragua.
It's a 4 by 32.
It's a small Patella.
They smoked one because it's a
redux. 86. 84.
The league of provided #9 Cornet
delivered solid construction
overall.
While it required a few relights
due to its small ring gauge, the
burn remained consistent when
smoked at the proper pace, and
the reviewer noted that the
combustion was no longer a
concern after the first third.
86. 84.
Clue #2 The cigar offered a full
flavored smoking experience with
enjoyable retro hails that help
balance the profile.
Notes of earth, white pepper,
and underlying sweetness provide
some complexity, particularly at
the cigar as the cigar approach
the midway point. 85. 88.
Clue #3 The dominant flavor
profile was a major
disappointment centered around
persistent sour chalk and
metallic notes and reminded the
reviewer of putting a nail or
socket bit in their mouth.
These flavors overwhelm the
experience from start to finish
and never developed into
anything more enjoyable.
You know, But you know exactly
what that tastes like, though.
Right.
Like put in the battery, right?
Yeah, Yeah, this is the final
clue, not the final thought.
Correct 84. 82.
Final thought, I don't know
exactly what I was hopeful that
I would get from this League of
provided #9 Coronet after
letting it rest past a few
years, but I do know that I got
what I was fearful of, the same
experience I had when I first
smoked it.
There's still the sourness,
still in metallic taste, still
the chalk, and still the
curiosity about how the cigar
deserves to wear the League of
provided #9 band.
Thankfully the technical
performance is good and smoking
time isn't too long, but neither
of those has me thinking I'll be
returning to this ventola
anytime soon.
So this is a redux.
So we have the score today and
then you can try to guess the
original.
OK.
All right, let's go 79.
How many blinks of that?
7.
He's not going pee pee.
I'm going to say 77.
I do have to pee.
What did he say?
79. 51 You went the right way.
Wow, 51.
Fires today performance problems
happens to everybody.
OK, original score.
Original score.
Phil back.
In 2018.
Well, he said he didn't change
much from it, so let's do 52.
60. 76.
He said he didn't change much.
We he.
Said the cigar didn't change
much.
He didn't say the score.
Oh, it's not working.
Get our money back.
It's out of stock.
It was half full on Friday.
Oh, he must have beat Greg.
It's out.
It's out of stuff.
It was half full Freddy.
It's out all.
Right, I'll check it.
Go to me.
Those things use a lot of
powder, huh?
Yeah.
I mean, Greg goes, oh, you'll
never run out of stuff.
Yeah.
Bull.
Yeah, how much is the powder, by
the way?
I don't know, it came with.
Yeah, but it's going to run out,
I know.
So apparently we get just about
20 days out of a pack.
Yeah.
And I split it between the two P
2 units.
I went again.
I mean, it's really it's high.
No it.
Wasn't he?
Wasn't excuse.
Me, he got the third one.
Yeah.
Because you got the the redux
the way you sneak in an extra
score.
W.
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No, no, it's a different. 10
Really.
Yeah, he kept trying to teach
Greg, and Greg couldn't get it
right.
Yeah, we'll get right in.
There as close to what he just
said.
Camille.
No.
All right, guys.
Thank you very much.
Bye bye.
I'll wait.
Do more time boop.
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