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June 9, 2026· 1h 5m

ACHP Episode 547 Naturally Better Then The Alternative

ACHP Episode 547 Naturally Better Then The Alternative

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All right.

Well, here we go guys.

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Before I get into the comments

from the previous show, we got a

winner to announce.

Winner winner.

For.

Chicken dinner.

I need more notice.

Yeah, you, yeah.

For this carbon fiber fiber,

carbon fiber lighter cutter set

from somebody whose name we're

not saying because they didn't

pay to be on.

The show when you touch it, does

it feel like carbon fiber?

I don't know which carbon fiber

feel like.

Like that?

Yes.

Look up my.

Finger.

We're having problems with the

fingers around here.

Oh, OK.

Yeah, yeah.

So Phil, I'm going to start with

by saying pick a number one

through 7.

Oh, only 7, huh?

Right now.

Yes, All right, three.

OK, hold on, hold on.

I know what you're doing.

That's a good idea. 123 OK, now

pick a number one through 15. 52

Give me two. 2. -4 please -4

let.

Me see here camera.

All right, back to him quickly.

He's got a name.

And your winner is.

Did your mother?

It is not at jace 1911 do.

We know who.

That is Nope.

All right, Jace 1911, reach out,

send a message to to me at

m.whatwasmynamemikep@pochiccigars.com.

Tell me who you are.

And they have to prove who they

are somehow.

So.

Yeah, I'll get 75 emails, send a

picture of your face and

whatever else you want.

The Palmer.

No, don't send pictures.

Yes, I will get this little baby

in the mail to you dude.

Sweet.

Congratulations, Sir.

Nice.

Now, now that that's out of the

way, yes, that was much easier

than what I was trying to do

upstairs.

Oh yeah, You know, I wonder how

you.

Can do that, it's gonna.

Be 75,000 comments and I'm like

I.

Wonder, I wonder if Claude can

do this for me.

And then I and then it's like,

no, sorry.

No, I can't.

Don't know.

Did you say the winner was Chase

or Jace?

Jace, JCE, 1911.

Is that the fella in California?

The race car driver.

No, no.

Oh.

No.

Well, look at that.

There you go.

Let those watch rings.

Newest responded and

unresponded.

OK, getting into the comments

from episode 5. 46.

Never mind what?

Nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Are you sure?

Yes.

You don't want to share?

Patreon material.

No no at Mark Palmer 570 said I

didn't know the rules lol.

Greg said that when he one of

the things I had to edit.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I couldn't remember.

I knew there were three, but I

couldn't remember what the three

were, so I had to watch the

entire show.

Get to watch it.

And luckily afterwards you go

got to edit that out.

So I'm like, oh, back up a

little bit.

At CW6383 today I am sitting at

the Miami Bright Line station

listening as I wait to head

home.

And yes, Triple GI paid for the

premium Wi-Fi, so I didn't miss

the episode.

That a boy, that a.

Boy Chad Chris, Chad Weiss and

then he also wrote thirst trap

Palmer with a bunch of hearts T

money.

Damn, the step on Kevitch

brothers are really sticking at

the Palmer this morning.

I don't remember that.

I don't think we're going that

hard in the paint on you.

No, I mean, it's like an

everyday thing.

Maybe they just think all that

stuff and I'm like, no, that's

just Friday.

That's just the way it works.

At Brett Mercurio says Mike

Palmer has a thirst trap image

of him in torn jeans and red

high tops.

It appears to have been taken

down.

All that's.

The one I'm talking I've never

owned red high.

Tops.

I don't know, I think that's

true.

We'll never know, I mean.

It could be.

It sounds like a great photo.

I would like a pair of red high

tops.

I like red sneakers.

That ruck is Unchained.

That's.

Your mom.

Hello Chevron.

Paranoid Palmer is hilarious.

I like seeing my boys look out

for each other.

I put up her picture on the on

the Today show.

Oh, did you?

Yes, well, she was already part

of the you used her.

She's running a thumbnail, but

we started talking about her.

I'm going to put up her pic.

You're going.

To put her up rook's coatings I

want.

I went a few years ago on an

airboat ride.

At the end they handed us a baby

Gator without its mouth taped

shut.

I asked them.

They said it's fine, it's a it's

a baby and won't do anything.

OK.

He sent me the photos today.

Who rooks coating of him holding

the baby and the Gator bit the

guy like here on the ball of his

cheek.

They've been follow up pictures

and things so and like turned

around and not $50,000 bite and

then they pull a piece off.

It's got a couple little holes

here, but still good luck with

the 50,000.

You and Dad of Cash both have a

thing for Kurt Russell from the

computer wore tennis shoes to

Captain Ron.

The Thing escape.

The Thing escape from New York

and Miracle.

Computer wore tennis shoes goes

way back.

That's when he was a teenager.

I just want you to know if

things don't work out between

his wife and and you and you and

your wife, I think you can run.

Away he's he's been with her so.

Long you can run away with Paul.

Yeah, but she has to.

She has to die at some time.

Goldie, yeah.

Goldie Hawn.

Oh, I'm talking about.

Oh, you're talking.

About Paul, I'm talking about

your relationship, Paul, I see

you guys are bonding so well

lately.

Well, yeah, I know, but we both

like Kurt Russell, not each

other, and it's be weird.

I think like you're getting

there.

Somebody jealous?

Not at all.

OK.

Like when you say like Kurt

Russell.

I have Preston now, remember.

It's true.

It's true.

What are you saying over there?

When?

When I wasn't here for this

episode and I didn't watch

anything this morning.

When you say that he likes Kurt

Russell, what was it?

Just he was just naming off his

movies or.

Something Palmer just Palmer

loves Kurt Russell.

There was some reason he came up

on Friday's show and Greg goes,

wait, don't you have like a man

crush on Kurt Russell or

something?

Greg said that.

Greg said that to me.

Yeah, Greg used to say I look

like Kurt Russell when I rode my

motorcycle around.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

And that.

That's how that's how Greg found

out.

I was like, oh, that, that's a

big compliment, Greg.

I like Kurt Russell.

I am a huge Kurt Russell.

Guy, I'm a huge Kurt Russell

man.

At David Hasselhoffman says when

Mike is running the board, his

camera is in the perfect spot.

When Phil is back there, it

looks like he is hiding behind

the mic.

We'll see the camera shot.

We'll see it.

They'll let you know there,

Baywatch.

He fixed my camera today.

I did.

I did fix this camera.

He's right though.

You don't see the microphone

when you're sitting over there.

Me, yeah.

Well, because like it's, I told

you, Mikey.

Mikey's camera is tailored for

him.

No, here's the reality is that

I'm a perfectionist.

Right, right.

Yeah.

And anything that I do and when

Phil, when I set up Phil's

camera and he's like, that's

good.

You just stop.

Yeah, now, Phil said.

Hey, do you think we can

straighten this out now that

it's been brought to my

attention?

I'll make sure it's right all

the time.

Nice.

You know what?

I like the hassle off guy.

He's a good.

Guy, he's taking care of you.

You should be.

Nice to him.

I like him, yeah.

Don't even mention that the

antennas are going off the mask.

Does he have an investment in 13

knives?

No.

No knives and a nice

Thanksgiving mask though,

apparently.

Yeah, no.

Oh, another mask.

I mean, I should mention, I'm

going to mention this one and

then I'm going to go to the

previous episode because Ben

Rowland is a little behind, OK?

Oh, is he behind that watching?

I guess so.

Oh, is.

He on mctavish time now.

No, not not quite.

OK at Bryce Field says the

generational ban is bad, would

make a black market for tobacco.

Yeah, obviously.

I mean, it's ridiculous.

Over regulation is.

I'll use different words.

Over regulation is stupid.

And then from the previous

episode he needs to get

mentioned at Ben Rowland

Rowland, Rowland Rowland Rowland

Rowland.

The New World screwworm is

primarily combated by the same

way Google wanted to fight

mosquitoes.

Everyone has been tracking NWS

for two years.

It's one of few flies that eat

living flesh and screw down

towards brains or vital organs.

Can affect people as well.

Oh, now what the article said

that I that I used.

Well, I trust.

Ben.

No, no, I believe him.

Yeah, I believe we've seen some

of these drivers on the road.

Not going to his farm now

though.

I'm not getting a screw worm in

my head.

They.

Don't.

It's not here in Florida.

It's in Texas.

You.

Never know it what didn't used

to be in Texas.

Oh, OK, maybe they accidentally

let one go with all those 32

billion mosquitoes.

Right, if you want to hear your

comment read aloud on the show,

just comment below.

And there's a potential for it

to happen.

Now we are going to do this for

the Patreon.

Oh, I didn't know what you're

throwing.

Oh God.

Oh, Jesus.

That was a perfect.

Throw.

There was so much light involved

in that.

That was a perfect.

They were.

They're reflective, so they're

sparkling as they're flying in.

Front of the light.

That was a perfect throw.

We are going to smoke.

Now I know how those deers feel

right before they get smacked by

the clerks.

They're in line the.

Conejos.

The rabbit.

The Rabbito.

The Conejo.

Back there you go, four O 1.

By Cordova Morales.

New release This is brand new.

He's very new.

He's very new.

Brand new.

Mix it up a little bit here.

Oh God, that's broken.

That's a that's a little better.

All right, and let's get on with

the show, buddy.

I'm sniffing myself.

On with the show.

A Bing bong.

I haven't had one yet.

I have nothing to cut the sign

with.

Oh no, I have a punch.

Reports from May 2026 indicate

that Meta ended a contract with

Kenyan outsourcing company Sama.

What did Sama do for them,

Michael?

I'm sick.

Kenyan.

They got rid of a Kenyan group

called Sama S AM A.

They went in and they regulated

and banned people randomly from

groups.

I think.

No.

I think they helped connect meta

to tribal countries.

It's 13.7g by the way.

Thank you very much.

I don't know what the size is.

Me neither, it's awkward.

Yeah, it's not going to be

anything, so just figure out if

it waste.

Is it on the box?

Leading to the layoff of 11108

data.

I know, I know, there's ANNOTA,

the people that watch the data,

this group, what they did is

they.

Annotators.

Annotators.

Annotators.

Maybe they went through every

piece of video footage that Meta

Glasses recorded.

Oh, we're free.

Or saw.

They've let them.

They've let them gone.

Wow.

So it's not so everything that

you do with your glasses.

Yeah, somebody in in, in where

was and Kenya watches the video

and logs it.

Oh yeah, yes, you know what I

got to do with my meta glasses

this weekend?

Are you allowed to say this?

Are you allowed to say it on the

air?

Yeah.

Are we going to find out from

Kenya what it was anyway?

I mean, you could probably speak

to a Kenyan.

They'll tell you I'm.

Sorry, what is it?

What'd they say?

Caught.

I caught a fish.

Oh.

While you were coaching.

Deep sea fishing.

Oh, look at you.

Yeah.

Oh, it was awesome.

You and Greg went, huh?

With Ruckus, With.

Greg, I went with Fred.

Rui, I was part of that.

No, I'm just kidding.

No, that's all we down the keys.

He didn't have that kind of.

Time.

I'm going to tell you right now.

Palmer's face drooped down real

quick when he said that.

Oh my.

God.

The layoffs came shortly after

workers spoke to journalists

about reviewing highly sensitive

footage captured by Meta's AI

smart glasses, including

recordings of people undressing,

using the bathroom, other

private moments and their

children.

Mehta said it terminated the

contract because the contractors

allegedly failed to meet

standards, while Sama disputed

that explanation and said it had

not been informed of any such

deficiencies.

The controversy was fueled

broader concerns about privacy

and smart glasses.

Separate reports this month

revealed that Mehta has been

testing facial recognition

related technology for its smart

glasses and AI apps, prompting

criticism from privacy

advocates.

Meta says the technology has not

been released to consumers and

that no final decision has been

made on deployment.

OK.

Couple things here.

First and foremost, what did you

expect?

Did you think that they were,

that that wasn't going to

happen?

No, I what do you look what you

yelling at me?

For I'm not this isn't I can.

Write the article.

This is just kind of blanketing

statement.

I was a little surprised that

they had hired someone to just

go through the footage and then

fired them when they started

talking to reporters saying this

is what we're seeing on the

footage that they're paying us

to watch, right?

I mean, it's kind of smart.

You can think about then.

I mean, somebody's probably

doing it with your phone,

anything you record anywhere,

somebody, I mean, you don't

think about that, you know, when

you're making the sex tape with

your wife with the glasses on,

doing APOV thing or whatever

it's called, you know, and then

there and then there's some guy

in Kenya going, oh, look at

this.

Here they go.

Railing her.

Log One Man, One Woman April

7th, 8:00 PM.

That was super specific, that

whole situation.

Wow.

Yeah, well, they mentioned that

in the article with the people

having No, I don't have any.

I can't afford those.

They're too expensive and my

wife's not gonna let me.

Do this, you know anything?

He's got wavies.

Hey WAVY, there's only one

camera and it's not really

clear, right?

Is is 8:00 PM your hammer time?

Is that what?

You're saying yeah, he turns

into MC, puts on the pants and

everything like right?

Put on the big puppy pants.

Your show ends at 8:00.

You're like, all right.

I put on my red high tops and my

torn jeans and then just.

You, you look.

You look.

At Hammer time.

You look at your wife and you

go, Are you ready?

Oh, I love that video.

Oh, it's so hot.

In here, it's so hot.

She was put on the red high

tops.

Yes, ma'am.

Get on that horse, you stallion.

Yeah, Kurt.

Yeah, Kurt, Get on that horse,

Kurt.

That's right.

Call me Mr. Russell.

Here, no, it's what was his name

in Escape from LA and escaped.

From Oh Snake.

Snake.

You call me Snake?

You call me Snake?

Oh.

I'm saying I'm more like Captain

Ron.

Yeah, Captain Ron.

Captain Roll is dope.

Captain Roll.

It was a good movie.

Yeah, OK.

All those movies are good.

I don't like the Santa Claus

stuff though.

OK, so for one like I, you

almost expect, you know, big

corporations to be doing stupid

shit with your videos.

You're not surprised.

Yeah, it's like, Oh my God.

But when you bought them, you're

not thinking some guy in Kenya

is going to be logging the

footage with my glass.

I'm thinking somebody's probably

going to watch my videos, all

right.

Oh yeah, of course, of course.

So I mean that's going to be

digital cameras of any kind.

That.

Yeah, exactly.

So that's the first thing.

The second thing is I'll just

wait here patiently until the

news article comes out that

somebody hacked into Meta and

they have all the videos.

Oh great, now you just give

that.

Idea, because I didn't give

anybody that idea.

Somebody's already thinking of

it.

Yeah, there was some guy in the

in the Middle East thinking

about it, you know.

With two rocks and one missile.

And then when he watched our

show, he was like, oh, great

idea, buddy.

I come to this show to learn

about cigars and I figure out

how to corrupt the entire world.

I love this show I have.

New Kardashian video, you know.

You know what's even crazier

about this whole situation is

they're allowed to do this, but

if you sit outside someone's

windows with no curtain and look

at something, then you're you're

arrested, you're in trouble.

Greg, you need bail again.

Sounds like Phil's previous

experience.

You.

Know what's kind of bullshit?

You know, what's really kind of

messed up is, you know they

could do this, but I can't even

look at my neighbour's master

bedroom and watch him undress.

The weird thing is he lives next

door to his parents.

Yeah, no, no, the other side.

The other side, yeah.

Yeah, I just think it's crazy,

man.

Like, I see all these news

articles all the time.

Like these people should be in

trouble.

Like what?

Oh, it's OK.

It was meta.

Oh well.

You.

Well, you accepted the terms and

agreement.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, yeah.

Before I sit outside your house

on Saturday night, sign this

paper.

You you hit.

I agree and it said we may view

your videos for analyzation.

What was a couple of years ago,

the What's the electric cars,

the Teslas were recording people

in their houses.

Really.

How are they recording them in

the houses the cars were just

drive in?

No, the 360 camera, yeah.

You parking in your garage, you

leave the back door open.

They could crack into it and

tilt the camera towards the

door.

Oh, really?

Yeah, and then watch you do The

Dirty on the washing machine or

something, huh?

At 8:00 PM on April 7th, right?

8:00 PM on April 7th.

Right, with WAVY glasses with.

WAVY, My name is Snake.

My name is Snake.

Well, look, I'm not surprised.

No, but Meadow saying it was

that we're not mad at them for

telling everybody we're doing

it.

We're they just didn't do it

right.

Yeah, they they screwed it up,

Yeah.

Yeah, they told.

Someone tell people they're

watching their videos, come on.

Guys, this is how this whole,

this is how society works.

It's like when you have the most

money, you get away with all of

it, right?

And then as it kind of trickles

down, like the the smaller

amount of cash you have, the

more trouble you can get in.

But if you do this stuff when

you're rich and you and and you

do this, if you add baby oil,

you get in lots of trouble.

Well, no, you know, I mean, I'm

bumping.

I'm bump a lot.

A lot of trouble is 2 years in

prison.

I mean, I mean two, I mean,

that's two years, you know, to

get back.

Actually, whatever.

Yeah, but yeah, 2.

Years.

It's not like he's doing a hard

time.

Dude.

Not making little rocks out of

big.

Rocks the rumors and the

articles that you hear.

He did some despicable things.

No, no, no.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be

there.

What I'm saying is, is if you

had baby oil, it doesn't matter

how rich you are, you're in

trouble.

Oh, you're saying baby oil is

the great, the equalizer?

Equalizer thank.

You.

Yeah, it's like, like Mark

Zuckerberg may maybe some type

of weirdo, but he'll never get

in trouble.

Goes go.

Oh, man, this company I had,

they were the ones watching the

glasses.

Yeah.

We didn't do it.

What?

Me.

I had no idea.

Yeah, we.

We subcontracted that out.

He's on the phone now going

what's what country smaller than

Kenya.

We get somebody.

Else to watch the cameras.

Yeah, some lady comes out, she's

like, yeah, we just had a watch

party at Mark's house.

Was it baby oil?

No.

It's fine, yeah.

Meadows highlights of the week.

Right, these are.

The These are the best ones here

we.

Go watch this watch this Palmer

guy over here watch this look

at.

Look at this guy catching a

fish.

What's he doing to the fish?

Oh God.

Why is his friend rubbing oil on

him?

Oh, it's baby oil.

They're done.

They're dead.

It's over.

My videos don't even hit the top

five on the like the rating

scale or whatever.

It's it's.

Football stuff, really good

fish.

It was a good fish.

It was a good fish.

I got to tell you, man, these

guys, the way that they, they,

the fishing trip in itself, the

dudes that ran it, bro, next

level.

I mean, just impeccable work.

And when you start to see it and

you break it down, you're like,

my God.

They just, they knew where to

fish.

They had bait ready at all

times.

They they altered things when

things were going sideways and

this guy worked his ass off the

entire time.

And then on the way back, the

entire boat was cleaned before

we docked and after we docked,

they took care of the fish.

I'm like, it was impeccable.

It was incredible, really was.

Yeah, I mean to find the fish.

They probably have a dope fish

Finder.

I don't.

I think it's even better than

that.

They they have locations tagged

where they do well at and they

just keep going till they don't

hit.

Anymore, I think that they've

been doing this for, yeah,

they're generations.

Yeah, they're professionals.

Yeah, they're not messing

around, dude.

Not at all.

They know where Nemo's school

is.

Yeah, and it was really cool,

man.

And it's like, man, these guys

are next.

Level.

So you went on a small boat, not

the big one.

Yeah, I mean it was like a what?

Like a 60 footer, 5060 footer.

No, but I mean, I'm sorry I've

said that wrong.

Did you go with a lot of people

or just your party?

Our party was 6 people and that

was it.

OK, so that's that.

Yeah.

That's a smaller charter is what

they call that.

OK, a private charter.

Sorry, I went on like a, you

know, a general public charter.

Yeah, don't ever do that.

That's horrible.

I got to.

I got to be honest with you, for

one, I don't think I'll, if I

ever do it again, it's all going

to be with these guys.

I'm not.

I'm not doing it with anybody.

Else like you've been in first

class, now you can't go back to.

Yeah, yeah, I'm not.

I'm like, dude, I didn't have to

worry about a thing.

And you know.

They fed him grapes while he was

fishing.

I don't know, dude, like I

always constantly analyze

everything that I'm doing no

matter what it is.

When you, I mean like when you

sit down and eat, like we've

talked about the water, right?

Like is my glass of water full

or not right?

It when it gets low, are you

paying attention to it because

you're not making any more money

on it?

But like, do you got me right?

Little things like that, you pay

attention to all those details

and you know, you could tell the

employees and the people that

are just impeccable about what

they do and like, man, that is

exactly how I want things ran

right.

So, and as far as our my

businesses, as far as our

businesses, you know, I'm like,

man, that's just so locked in

and you always try and edge

towards being more and more

dialed in and on that level.

And when you see somebody do it,

it's just like, damn, that's

incredible.

I mean, we even when I went,

when skip and I went to, he took

us to Disney, We did the VIP

thing with, with, with Teddy and

Fiorella Fiorella and we were

talking.

We always have these kinds of

conversations, man.

And one of the things he always

says is like, you know, an

employee that like, or a person

that picks up a piece of trash

just to pick up the piece of

trash.

Person picks up the piece of

trash just because somebody else

is watching.

A person walks over the trash

and like, we're walking and the

VIP guest that that that is

hosting us, she's in front and

there's a piece of garbage that

kind of trails by, picks right

up, boom, throws in the garbage

and skips.

Like, did you see that?

I'm like, you bet your ass I saw

that, you know, because that's

the person, right?

You know that that guy, that guy

or girls is locked in and

they're they're here to deliver

and like it's just second nature

to them at this point.

They know exactly what to do,

how to handle the situation, and

they're on top of everything,

right?

That's who you want to surround

yourself by.

So sorry to deviate off the

topic.

Oh well, I mean, we're off of

done with that story anyway, all

right.

Central Florida officer racked

up over $10,000 on a dead man's

credit card.

You know what?

Good for him.

Good for him.

Then the family has to pay the

credit card, no?

No one pays that.

Why don't they pay it?

No one.

'S paying a dead man's credit

card.

Well, he's not really a police

officer.

He's a guard at the prison.

And the dead man was his

girlfriend's father.

OK.

So that's OK.

It's not that it's OK, it's just

that, look, I'm rooting for the

little guy here, right?

The credit card companies are

24.99% APR compounded date.

But it's stealing.

It is.

Yeah, I'm aware.

So that's OK.

This is more Robin Hood ask than

it is for then, you know, taking

money out of your small

business.

I don't think he was paying off

somebody's medical.

Bills if I'm going to pillage

visa let.

Me ask you a question Palmer.

Yes, if a crackhead when stole

the crack from the dealer, would

you be mad at the crackhead?

Is it against the law to steal

crack from a crackhead?

I think it's against the law in

all worlds of everything

involved in this whole

conversation.

Right.

No, I wouldn't be upset if they

stole if a crackhead stole crack

from a crack dealer.

No, they.

Wouldn't be mad about that.

Right.

Right.

I mean, they're all breaking the

law together, so.

I mean, this is pretty much

mafia.

Credit card companies, They're,

they're pretty much mafia.

Dude, it's ridiculous 24.99%.

Maybe he's got a low APR on his

card.

Who?

There's no way.

There's no way.

Guess what?

I don't know, he probably died

of stress from his credit card.

And he got popped anyways, and

he's going to, you know what I

mean?

If we have credit card fraud

upstairs, do we get stuck with

the?

Of course.

OK, so then the credit card

company's not out, the company's

not being paid whose goods you.

Got Well, that's not credit card

fraud.

No one's reporting on his fraud.

It wasn't fraud.

The family did when he started

getting the bills after her dad

was dead.

Oh, they said, hey, this isn't

real.

Hey, yeah, what are these?

I mean, he's been dead for a

year and now we've got $10,000

racked up on his credit card

bills.

Well, it's a false claim because

probably nobody like if you

don't report the card stolen.

What are you?

Sorry, if you don't report

report the card stolen then

there's no you can't.

That's not a real claim yet.

So unless they report it stolen,

that'd be the only time.

Yeah, then they said the card's

stolen, then the merchant's out.

Right.

So if you have a card in your

name and you die, it's still a

good card.

I mean, your family's not on the

card at all.

It was just your.

Card and then somebody used.

It.

Yeah, somebody started using it

the day actually started using

it the day after the guy died.

Yeah.

Yeah, I guess I can't see that,

you know, billing and shipping

match or whatever, you know, I

mean, or they just made a

purchase locally.

I can't see that falling on the

merchant.

I can see Visa being pissed off

and then charging this guy.

And they probably did.

He's probably going to do, you

know, 2-3 years in prison.

But without getting further into

the story before you tell me,

and my point is that like, you

know what, just do a better job

Visa.

When the guy dies then turn off

the card.

Well, they don't know the guy

died until you call him.

I mean, when my dad died and we

had to, we were trying to switch

the credit cards because he was

the primary.

As soon as we said he died,

they're like, oh, they turn it

off.

Mom didn't.

And Mom didn't have any credit

cards, right?

Yeah, but somebody has to call

like you just said.

Yeah, yeah, you do have to call.

Yeah, because Visa's not worried

about the transition or anything

else.

They're worried about getting

screwed out of the cash, right?

Because I'm sure that happens

all the time.

Well, he died.

Well, he has $40,000 in credit

card debt, like.

OK, well give him a call.

I don't know what to tell you.

Yeah, ring a Ding, Ding.

Well, are you going to pay for

this?

Like no, I'm not.

I didn't Co sign on his credit

cards.

I'm sorry that he died, you

know, like.

He's been charged trying to get

to the charges.

He's been charged with Grand

Theft, fraudulent, fraudulent

use of a credit card, unlawful

use of a two way communication

device, unlawful possession of

personal identification

information and criminal use of

personal identification of a

deceased person.

Yeah, so he's at least 10 years.

No.

Yeah, that's a lot of, that's a

lot of stuff.

I don't think he's doing 10.

And it may be federal.

And it's $10,000, so that makes

it a felony.

It's only 10K. $10,300.

Yeah, anything over 10,000 is a

is a felony.

That's correct dude.

We're talking.

About 10 GS here.

And they said 10,000 what, $3?

10,300.

Oh, I was about to say like man,

10,000 three, they screw that

guy.

That's wild.

Yeah.

They caught him because when the

girlfriend started looking at

the cards she also had text

messages or at the bill she had

text message from the boyfriend

on the same day from the

locations.

So he's an idiot on top of

everything.

Yeah, sounds like it.

Well, he's an idiot to use the

cards right.

Right.

Sure.

All all I'm saying is that oh.

Your dad died.

Let me just shut him down.

I'll get rid of all these cards

for you.

I'll get rid of these.

It'll be fine.

Yeah.

And his ID.

It'd be funny that they were all

like Hard Rock chart charges.

Right.

No way me, no way me, no way me

stop.

I got the extra 400 for being

the first time in gambling.

Where are you, honey?

I'm at Hard Rock Casino.

Right.

Oh, you want me to bring you

some home for dinner?

It's all going to work out,

don't worry.

I'm going to.

Use mine.

I'm up.

I'm up today.

I'm.

Going to use these cards.

I'm going to make 30 GS.

I'm going to pay that back pay.

Them off.

It worked for Grady, Judge.

Grady, Judge Very upset.

Oh.

Over in Polk County.

Yeah, it's not a good one.

Yeah, it's not a not a somebody

you want to piss off.

Look man, you know he tried to

stick it to the man and he lost.

Well, he's trying to stick it to

the man he was trying to take

advantage.

Yeah, of the man.

A visa or AMAX?

I don't think it's thing.

I don't think he was thinking,

you know what?

I'm going to teach them a

lesson.

I'm going to use my girlfriends

dead dad's cards just to show

them what they're doing wrong.

No, he was like, I'm getting me

a new TV.

Yeah, because screw them, I.

Don't think he was thinking

screw them.

He was thinking I'm getting me a

new.

TV.

Oh, you know what he was

thinking.

Yeah, yo, you know what he was

thinking.

I'm just.

Assuming.

Well, I'm assuming also. $10,000

that's 150 incher.

He doesn't sound like he's that

smart where he's doing this to

be Robin Hood.

I mean, he was a police officer.

He had to be something he.

Was a prison guard.

He's.

Not a police officer.

He gets them as they've already

committed the crimes.

He's not worried about who's

committing the crimes.

He apparently thought this.

This is not They're never going

to catch me.

Lisa should have gifted them the

bonus.

I think you're a you're a prison

guard.

You got to deal with all this

shit all the time.

You know what?

10 KS on us.

Have a good day.

I.

Think prison guards are sworn

in?

I'm I'm.

Well, yeah, they are, yeah.

Yeah, Can you imagine being a

prison guard and all the crap

you got to deal with?

I would so, so funny story, my

buddy Ricky.

You know what?

I go to you.

Go to you.

Go ahead.

I know.

Thank you.

You know my buddy Ricky?

Yeah, actually, let's do this

one because I want to see your

reaction.

OK, so he actually just became a

prison guard.

Yeah, in Orange County.

I think you told us that

already.

I'm not sure.

Oh, did I?

Yeah.

Oh, OK.

Oh.

Oh God.

Oh, can't believe it.

End of the story.

That's for the next story.

Until the next story.

I sent you guys something, OK

Think your personalized license

plate is clever.

Florida officials have released

their annual list of vanity

plate requests that were denied

for being too offensive.

So there's a hundred of them on

the list.

I obviously don't have 100, but

I have the top seven.

We're going to try to figure out

what it is that they say I.

Can tell you all these.

Oh, I could.

You alright tell me the top one

because I don't even know what

the top 1 is.

I can only get like 3 or 4 off

that list. 000 KFS What's that?

OK, fuck.

Shit, I don't know.

I think, oh, I can tell you all

these.

Well, I know the next.

One and you struck out.

What's the 06 ho?

Yeah. 2006 Ho yeah.

That's obvious.

Yeah, Oh fucks.

Yeah, that's like 0 fucks.

Oh.

Hell no.

What's the next one?

I'll put this.

Up here I thought that was

weird.

I don't know.

Yeah, that's a good one.

I don't know.

Oh my to FYM four year

something.

Oh shit.

Yeah, oh shit.

And.

Then first time motherfucker.

What did?

What did we say the top one was?

We don't know yet.

We don't know.

All right, guys.

Red as red AS000 KFS or suck FS

and violates.

Oh, you asked Claude?

Yeah.

Oh, won't tell you what it is.

Suck FS, even Claude, you're

going.

Yeah.

Oh, that's bad.

Whatever.

Suck absence.

OK.

I don't know.

All right, zero my to FYM.

Yeah.

Zero my to FYM meaning.

Oh yeah.

The phrase highly profane is

best known for one of the

specific customized license

plate configurations.

Oh my effing your you mother

effer I guess.

OK.

This.

This is a kid.

This is a kid thing.

Yeah, and then one fast MF,

that's the bottom one.

Oh yeah.

What I mean, who cares about

this?

I mean, I don't, you know what I

mean?

Like if somebody put that on

their license plate, like, Oh my

God, you know?

Right.

Oh, there's, like I said,

there's a hundred of them that

they've rejected, right?

Yeah, most people.

Wouldn't even.

I wouldn't have figured.

That out, Nobody's picking up on

that.

No, you know, Oh shit, that'd be

funny.

Who's the person at the DMV that

goes, you know what this means?

It's got to be somebody who's

looking through these.

They hire a 14 year old.

Oh, I know what that means.

Claude, run them through Claude,

see what we get.

Yeah.

Can you make my custom plate

please?

What do you like to say?

I'll ask Jax if he knows what a

couple of those are like.

Tell me what this top one means.

You know what this top one

means?

Oh yeah.

And you go, Oh yeah, that's.

Yeah, you're not allowed to play

Fortnite anymore.

Yeah.

Where you learning this?

Where are they?

Teaching this stuff right?

We went to the gym together

today and we were working out

and he was screwing around a lot

and I had to give him the look.

I'm all, I'm all good with you

playing around and having fun,

but this is we got a lock in

here like this is.

We got to put in the work, dude.

We were at the Iron Paradise.

He, he lately he's been saying

this one, there's this guy he

was actually at used to be at

the gym a couple times.

His name's like Ashton or

whatever, right?

He ran up against the speed.

I am speed.

Or Oh yeah, yeah.

And he one of his things.

One FSMF.

That's him.

Yeah, that's him, one of his

little shorts.

Is he?

He goes through like this whole

process in the morning and he

says something like, all right,

now make 10, make 10,000, call

it a day or something like that.

So Jax is just saying all right,

go make 10,000 today and then

call it a day.

I'm like, oh, all right, cool,

man.

Yeah, that'd.

Be great.

Daddy wants a fishing boat.

Yeah, right.

All right, a Volution County

woman is facing charges accused

of using the can of wasp spray

against another driver.

Tammy Jones told deputies she

was driving down MLK Beltway

when when a Kia pulled up next

to her, document show.

Jones told deputies the driver,

later identified as the victim,

was shouting at her for

allegedly brake checking her and

the victim threw something that

Jones's car.

That's when records show Jones

told the deputies that the

victim said You're lucky I don't

have my gun with me.

Oh boy.

According to the Rush report,

Jones then prompted her to reach

into the back seat, grab a can

of wasp spray and spray it in,

spray it at the victim, report

states.

The victim told deputies when

she pulled up next to Jones.

Jones said just started yelling

at her.

Then she sprayed her and and her

vehicle.

I know what you're thinking.

Illegal.

Illegal.

The report says the victim told

deputy she wanted to press

charges and deputies found

probable cause to arrest Jones.

You got to be 1 mad person to

just go.

You know what?

I'm a spray with all that wasp

spray I have in the back of the

car.

I have wasp sprayed in my car

from those wasp I had in my car.

What can I do to you?

Right, I don't have my gun.

What do I?

What's the worst?

Spray.

What's the worst thing that

happened to you with road rage?

I've never really had an

experience with road rage other

than maybe somebody give me the

finger or something.

Yeah, that was it.

What about you, Phil?

I think I've told this story

before, so I got into this this

time.

Where?

Oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Are you talking about the

Christmas tree, Christmas lights

or whatever when you're you in

the Christmas lights, Saint

Augustine?

No, no, no.

This is totally different.

Yeah, Yeah, that was different.

Yeah.

You know what?

That was probably the worst one

actually.

These were Easter lights.

It was a different holiday.

Yeah, those were probably, that

was probably the worst one.

But I did like I had this thing

Robbie Doyle and me started

doing like thumbs down on people

to see people's reactions.

You drive by.

Just going.

And you're like that.

So there was this lady on I-4

that like almost hit me going

over the bridge here in Sanford.

So I got up next year.

I was like, and who's in the car

with me?

Oh, Chet.

Chet was in the car with me.

I was like, man, I was like, if

this lady flicks me off when I

get up next to her, I'm going to

give her the thumbs down.

And he was like, really?

I'm like, yeah, watch this.

So I got up next to her and sure

enough, there she goes.

Big Bird write to me, right?

So I gave her the big like that.

And her face was like, she was

so surprised.

So then she followed me all the

way to my exit in Deltona, got

off at the exit, came up next to

me, rolled her window down, had

me roll my window down.

And she's like, I got to be your

friend.

That was probably the best thing

I've ever seen.

And then she tried to give me a

beer from her passenger seat.

I was like, no, I'm good.

I don't need a beer.

I.

Got this warm beer over here by

my wash spray.

I'm good I.

Was going to spray you but.

Florida just giving beers out

while you're Rd. raging.

I was gonna say, is that

something bad?

Does that mean something?

We don't know if you drive up

and go.

I just, I just think it's funny

'cause I don't think people know

how to react.

I had somebody throw a can at me

once.

Oh, a can like a like a soda can

full.

I don't know if it was full.

Oh, I did have a go ahead.

Elaborate.

I mean, that was it.

I mean, I don't even know what I

did.

Yeah, I don't know what I did.

But we were down going I4 in in

the city and like they went off

on an exit and they were far

away from me and they still hook

shot it and hit my car.

I was like, damn, it was pretty

impressive.

Wow.

I don't really get mad.

Like I don't, you know, I'm, I'm

well past that age of getting

agitated and just hunting

somebody down.

More often than not, if I screw

up or something, I usually just

say, hey, sorry, just kind of

apologize and just keep it

moving.

Oops.

Universal, I'm sorry.

Sorry, sorry about that.

Didn't.

See him when it changed.

Yeah, I screwed that up.

My bad.

I had a a buddy one time when I

was younger, I used to have this

Mazda 3 and he got so angry at

somebody on I-4.

He was in the passenger's.

It wasn't even me.

He got so angry and remember,

well maybe you still have it,

but they used to have like a

little change dish in the cars.

So he grabbed 2 pennies out, sat

on the window, like rolled down

the window and sat on the ledge

and threw the pennies at the

guy's windshield.

How much?

I'm like, dude, he got back and

I was like, dude, he like, you

could seriously hurt somebody,

you know, or crack his

windshield and he swerves off

and hits his, hits somebody or

something.

He's like, yeah, well, you know,

fuck that guy, man.

I'm like you, you got some anger

issues.

He sat on the ledge of the

window.

Yeah, he's, he's homeless now,

but yeah, he's, he's a problem.

He's homeless now, OK all.

Right.

Do you have video today,

Michael?

I do not have a video today all.

Right, we're rolling into cigar

news.

Which is great.

So we're at 42 minutes.

I just cut a story out too.

Avowed is adding Awakening

Rhapsody sampler for Father's

Day.

Awakening.

Are we getting this?

Maybe if you want.

I don't not my area.

Father's Day 2026 Avowed cigars

are offer it's Awakening cigar

and a sampler that contains the

blend paired with three

different wrappers.

The new Avowed Awakening

Rhapsody includes one of each of

the following the Awakening

Ecuador hybrid Awakening Black,

which is an Ecuador Corojo.

Coro.

Awakening White, which is a

Connecticut the Black uses a

wrapper that the company's

Hallowed hand line uses, while

White uses the wrapper from the

New Dawn and said all three

cigars use the same blend in

Ecuador and Habano binder with

Coriojo 98, Pennsylvania Piloto,

Cubano and San Vincent fillers.

Each sampler has an MSRP of I'm

going.

To say 100 bucks. 60. $90.00.

Boom, production is like crush

again. 1000 samplers of cigars

are being made by.

Crushing.

Kellner's Cigars in the

Dominican Republic.

All right, that's it.

I don't have anything else to

say about it.

That's all you got.

That's all I got to say about

that.

Well, there was a quote, but I'm

cutting the quotes out.

They're not really museum.

We have gone through various

blends and all these years we

have accomplished.

Great.

Everyone likes a father.

We thought we would make

something for fathers.

So here's his Father's Day,

Father's Day, Saturday.

Now here's what I'm going to.

Tell you I'm bubbling.

Yeah, you're bubbling good.

Oh, now you hear it.

Yeah, he can.

He can because he's louder.

He's he's talking a little

louder.

What's the time?

4354.

This is a long bug.

Yep.

Now here's what I'm going to

tell you this These cigars are

made by our friends at Small

Batch.

So I like Small Batch Andrew and

I'm popping again.

No, Andrew and Ben are awesome,

yes, and they're making some

good cigars.

So yeah, I'm not against getting

it.

What I will tell you though is

that I'm so entrenched right now

and revamping and rebuilding 3

sites simultaneously, it's like

oh boy.

We always miss out on this kind

of stuff upstairs, like a

Father's Day sampler or, you

know, something along those.

Lines because we usually can

just build our own.

Well, no, no, that's what I

meant.

We usually we don't think about

it in time to do it.

It's usually like a after the

fact thing or like about any

type of holiday thing.

Well, let's build 1 today.

Well, I.

Was going to bring it up at the

meeting today.

That's a great idea.

And then we still have two

weeks, so.

We'll put it out.

Well, we have those bags

leftover from the cigar life

thing back there, those humi

pack bags.

OK, we can do that or.

Whatever, put in regular cigar

hustler bags.

Whatever.

Yeah.

Well, we also have that, but we

also have the Camacho deal going

on too.

Oh, that's right, we have the

Camacho deal going too.

Maybe I had something with it

for Father's Day.

Yeah, you get a raffle ticket

for the.

You get the hammer and.

Oh, you know what?

And the event is before

Father's.

Day.

What do you want for Father's

Day?

I'm not your father.

I'm not getting anything.

Is there something that you want

for Father's Day?

No.

Nope.

There's something you want for

Father's Day.

I'm.

Really down to just one child

getting me.

Something.

Yeah.

Who's the one child that gets

you something?

One child that could.

Connor.

Yeah.

Socks.

Socks.

I like socks.

I have.

I have mismatched socks on today

but they came.

As Adrian goes, you're missing 2

socks.

I'm like no no, this is the way

I bought.

Them this is how they came this.

Is how they came.

I had monkey socks and they wore

out so I had to get new monkey

socks.

Those are monkey socks.

Yeah, 1 is bananas, one is

monkeys.

That's fantastic.

I like them.

I love that.

If you like socks, you should

get those those bamboo ones.

Oh, I I don't need bamboo socks.

I don't know they I heard

they're super comfortable.

I'm.

Sure they are.

You don't even have them.

I do actually have a pair of

Miss Mccool bought me a pair

because I was like, there's no

way that these socks can be that

great.

She's like, try them.

Are they that great?

They, yeah, they're actually

really nice.

I just don't want to spend money

on them 'cause they're not, you

know, 10 bucks.

Yeah.

So what do you want for Father's

Day 'cause I feel you're locked

in.

Like what do you want?

Oh, I want a chair.

A chair, like a office chair.

No, no, a new recliner at my

house 'cause the baby's coming

soon and I want a new recliner.

Sleep where the baby's not in

your room.

Yeah, you need to what?

Why do you need a recliner?

No, it's just easier, like the

recliner I have now is like all

scratched up by the cat and it's

like falling apart if I had it.

I've had it for a long time.

You're embarrassed for the baby

to see it.

No, I just like would like a a

new one that feels that feels

nice because I'm going to be

holding the baby in that chair.

This is your 4th kid.

Fourth.

Yeah. #4 #4 He wants a recliner.

A recliner.

What do you want, Michael?

I don't know.

You really want to know what I

want?

Sure, I want.

It's, it's a little fucked up.

Oh Lord hope it's not a pair of

other glasses.

For them to erase video from

April 7th from 9:00 to 11:00.

I want to give my kids a pass to

curse and I want them all to

come up to me and to say, hey,

you're a bad motherfucker and

I'm grateful that you're my

father.

Oh, that's easy to arrange.

Your wife could pull that off.

That's all I want.

Does she know?

I mean, I mentioned it in front

of the kids.

What do you want for Father's

Day?

Here's what I want.

That's all I want.

I'm like thanks.

Every year a new curse word.

I mean, I think that we, we, we

started kind of high well.

Yeah, yeah.

You guys started the big one.

You know, I'm OK with it if it

becomes like a tradition, just

with that.

Oh, just that exact phrase.

Yeah, I should get a new word.

I kind of like that I'm a bad.

I can't.

Yeah, don't keep saying it.

We're only allowed so many bad

mofo.

He's already said two and yeah.

Oh sorry, I didn't know we were

in the count again.

I still don't have to check the

box.

I still don't have to check the

box.

We're OK.

So yeah, that's I think that's a

good gift.

Sure, all right, V, So Horny

turns to Oveja Negra for the

Ligador Phantasma, but not

another cigar.

Yep.

Be so horny, the cigar brand

from Tyler Jeffrey has announced

an upcoming limited edition that

will come from a different

factory than the one brand he is

known to have worked with.

Yeah, Ligador Phantasma is a new

5 by 50 robusto.

It uses a corojo and candela

wrapper leaves to create a

Barber pole look.

Underneath is a Habana binder

that the fillers are from

Nicaragua and the US.

All of the fillers are from the

Veso, priming the middle section

of the leaves on a vertical

tobacco plant.

Pricing has not been announced,

but production is limited to 500

bundles of 10 cigars is expected

to ship in late summer.

The cigars being made at the

Obeyed Negra in Esteli,

Nicaragua.

Early this year, Jeffrey

purchased Pipe World, an Austin

based retailer.

His Visa Horny brand is slotted

under his El Bebe Grande Cigar

LLC, while Pipe World is

licensed as the wholesale

distributor, so he's

distributing his own cigars this

time.

Yeah, yeah, that's where he's

going.

Did you guys ever get to try the

sprinkle dust?

Leprechaun dust?

Nope.

Didn't do it.

It's OK are.

You guys going to try this one?

I have no idea.

Yeah, we know.

I have no idea.

You know, I try my best not to

put pressure on Tyler.

I try my best to help Tyler, and

that's kind of where it ends for

me.

I'm not.

He did a nice little thank you

as part of this press release,

but for time I cut it out.

Oh yeah?

What do you think?

Skip Alex.

People at the different

factories he's worked with.

Yeah, MO.

That's nice.

OK.

Yeah, I'm sure it'll be great.

Yeah.

Nice.

Yeah.

All right.

Now the big story of the weekend

this is it is a big story.

Espinoza opens up Dominican

cigar.

Well, apparently he announced

that at the.

Dojo No.

No, he announced that they would

put in a factory there at the

Lisona Palooza that he didn't go

to.

But then this week he announced

that Guy Fieri is now his

partner in the new Dominican

factory.

Do you know what this means,

Jacuzzis in every section.

You know what I mean?

I'm talking top of the line,

top.

Of the.

Line Dominican factory, there's

there's going to be a slide.

I heard there's a slide.

Hey, did you really?

Yeah, out from the lunchroom,

Yeah.

It goes.

I heard the the kitchen for the

lunchroom is amazing.

In the kitchen, Yeah.

Amazing chicken guy staff,

right?

Well, no, that's gone, but it'd

be like Burger Guy.

Is chicken guy completely gone?

A lot of knuckles.

Sandwich.

That's not Well.

It's not in Florida anymore.

Yeah, but I'm sure it still

exists.

OK, world, let's find.

Out.

Wait, is there a chicken guy at

Winter Park?

It's gone.

It's in the free trade zone,

which I guess means it's a free

trade.

The only thing they're saying

about the location?

So does that mean that they're

going to use only Dominican

tobacco?

No, but he does want to start

using some.

Oh, he's going to dabble in

using Dominican tobacco.

Chicken Guy is still open, but

the Central Florida locations

have shifted.

While the flagship location at

Disney Springs is open and

operating daily from 11:00 to

10:30, the Winter Park location

has permanently closed.

Oh, it's at Disney Springs.

There you go.

Oh, is it still there?

Yeah.

Santana Diaz, owner of Pure

Aroma Cigars, has joined as part

of the factory operations team.

As for why Espinoza decided to

open a factory in the Mineral

Republic after having operated

it in Nicaragua for numerous

years, he cited 2 reasons.

First, you said that drive from

an Aqua Des Lee is really

getting ridiculous.

He can't do that.

It is a ridiculous job, yeah.

Now it's 30 miles an hour and

there's a lot of police.

It takes 4 hours now instead of

two and he don't have that kind

of time and then two.

But again, it's still there's no

good places to eat.

Nestle is what he said.

Yeah, he said the lack, the lack

of things to do and restaurants

and has to lead to enjoy once

the work day is done.

Specifically setting the

Dominican Republic restaurant

scene as something he looks

forward to enjoying.

I love the tobacco in Nicaragua.

I love the people in Nicaragua,

but I wanted to try something

different, Espinoza said.

He noted that nothing is

changing with the Nicaragua

operation as far as cigars that

are made there.

But now they're going to be

making new ones at this new

place.

Oh yeah?

Well, I mean.

By September 1st, not.

Only that.

But he's I think that he's

hedging his bet.

Political upheaval can happen.

Sure, why not?

I mean, if you can put another

one in another country.

Yeah, why not cover your bets?

Yeah, especially when you got

Guy Fieri support.

Right.

You know Santana Diaz.

Yeah, bounce house.

Me neither.

Begin to bounce house is going

to be great.

Yeah, it's going to be a place

to cut your hair right there and

dye your beard.

Yeah, there's going to be a

Triple D episode about it, you

know?

He'd be stupid not to.

Dominican Republic in the Dr.

And another D on it.

Dominican Republic diners drive

into Dodge DRDDDD.

Dr. Triple D That's cool.

Yeah.

So there's that.

We never get any news first from

anybody.

We never get.

We never get any news first from

anybody.

We could have slipped.

He could have slipped his dies.

We could have covered it.

He slipped it to me.

He didn't tell me about Guy, but

he's he told me about this.

He told me about the factory a

long time ago.

Yeah, why didn't we cover the

story?

Because he asked me not to say

anything.

Oh, we'll see then.

That don't count.

Well, he want to release it

where he want to release it.

Well, I'm sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, but you?

Know, I think that's like

whatever we got, we released a

lot of stuff.

Yeah, yeah.

We cover a lot of stuff.

It sounds like this is sort of

slipped out during the during

the Dojo.

Thing is, I don't think he had

planned to release it because

the way the image look, he's

like sitting like this back in

the chair, you know, doing that

thing with his face that he

does.

And he goes, you know, I'm

putting his factory in Dominican

Republic.

We got here right now.

I got to, we got to wrap this

up.

I got to go.

Yeah, all right.

Sign for the industry's favorite

game.

What's the score?

Don't hit your button yet.

Don't hit your button yet.

Players hear clues from 1/2

Wheel Cigar review and try to

predict the score before it's

revealed.

As more details are shared, the

challenge gets easier.

Or does it?

The closest guess to the actual

score wins the round.

Can you read between the lines

and predict the score?

Yes, I can.

No, hit the button.

Oh my Lord, I try to help these

people all I can't.

You try to help these people.

So much I can.

Tell what do you mean these

people?

First Cigar January 6th, 2021

Charlie Minato reviewed It's

Charlie Phil.

He's so nice, He's so nice.

January 6th, 2021 OK la corona.

Corona.

La.

Corona Corona.

That's the cigar, OK, La Corona,

Corona.

It's not from Corona, is it?

To Corona Corona. 88 I have no

idea.

I need to know the origin.

So the guess because that's

what's coming next.

Right 80.

Cigar Review de la Corona Corona

Country of Origin Unknown Oh oh

Factory unknown oh oh Rapper

unknown oh boy.

Binder unknown Filler unknown

Length 5 3/10 by 42 It's a

Corona.

We don't even know the price and

they only smoke one. 89. 80.

Clue #1 Despite the challenging

flavour profile, the cigar

delivered excellent air flow and

generally solid construction.

The draw remain functional

throughout and experience.

Sorry, functional throughout the

experience, and aside from some

tunnelling and a few touch ups,

the cigar burned well enough to

avoid major construction

complaints 88. 80.

Did you say 8?

80.

Oh, eighty clue #2 The cigar

offered a highly distinctive and

complex profile with layers of

creaminess, nuts, wood,

sweetness, earth, leather, and

pepper.

While the reviewer didn't enjoy

many of the flavors, the cigar

was undeniably nuanced and

remarkably smooth from start to

finish.

Like he talks about himself in

third person. 89. 80.

Clue #3 The flavor experience

was overwhelmingly unpleasant,

dominated by notes the reviewer

compared to stale bottled water,

cottage cheese, mustiness,

mushrooms and sourness.

This thing better not get over

60 the.

Profile was so off putting that

the reviewer questioned the

cigar storage history and

described it as one of the least

enjoyable cigars they had ever

smoked.

Oh. 77. 70.

Final thought, while it didn't

occur to me while smoking this

cigar, largely because I was

generally concerned I might

start gagging, I was reminded

when writing this review that I

watched someone go through a

very similar experience.

I was with Brooks when he smoked

in my father baseball bat, one

of our favorites.

Here we go.

A cigar, we later learned,

wasn't created with the

intention of being smoked.

You were as well smoked that.

He looked like he was about to

puke and it wasn't due to the

nicotine.

I'm guessing the storage is the

last culprit for why the cigar

tasted like this, but it was

truly awful.

There are parts of our score

sheets that read bought it but I

would still throw out now that

was more generous than how I

graded some parts.

It's not parts of this.

Some cigars are better to look

at than smoke.

Then there's whatever this was.

While our new score sheet

doesn't punish as much as it

should, this was the worst cigar

I've ever smoked in my life.

Wow.

So we found Brooks worst cigar

of his life.

We have found now Charlie's

worst cigar of his life. 62. 61.

You went the right way. 40 Yeah

Adamy love Wow, wow.

How much was a baseball bat?

I don't remember it was a

collectible.

I think it was a little rather

expensive.

No, no, no.

I mean like the score, it was

low.

It was like in the 40s, right?

I think it was in the high 40s

though.

I wonder.

What the lowest score of all

time?

Well, so far the lowest one I've

seen is 38. 38.

And we've done that one.

All right.

Second cigar for the day, March

15th, 2021.

Patrick Lagree.

There's 2 today.

Yeah, it's two.

It's 222.

Cigar.

Tuesday Drew State.

Nicaragua, It's a redone.

Nicaragua, The League of bravado

#9 Cornet. 86. 84.

The League of bravado #9 cornet

country of origin Nicaragua

Factory La Grande fabric of Drew

State rapper Connecticut broadly

from the USA.

Binder from Brazil filler,

Honduras and Nicaragua.

It's a 4 by 32.

It's a small Patella.

They smoked one because it's a

redux. 86. 84.

The league of provided #9 Cornet

delivered solid construction

overall.

While it required a few relights

due to its small ring gauge, the

burn remained consistent when

smoked at the proper pace, and

the reviewer noted that the

combustion was no longer a

concern after the first third.

86. 84.

Clue #2 The cigar offered a full

flavored smoking experience with

enjoyable retro hails that help

balance the profile.

Notes of earth, white pepper,

and underlying sweetness provide

some complexity, particularly at

the cigar as the cigar approach

the midway point. 85. 88.

Clue #3 The dominant flavor

profile was a major

disappointment centered around

persistent sour chalk and

metallic notes and reminded the

reviewer of putting a nail or

socket bit in their mouth.

These flavors overwhelm the

experience from start to finish

and never developed into

anything more enjoyable.

You know, But you know exactly

what that tastes like, though.

Right.

Like put in the battery, right?

Yeah, Yeah, this is the final

clue, not the final thought.

Correct 84. 82.

Final thought, I don't know

exactly what I was hopeful that

I would get from this League of

provided #9 Coronet after

letting it rest past a few

years, but I do know that I got

what I was fearful of, the same

experience I had when I first

smoked it.

There's still the sourness,

still in metallic taste, still

the chalk, and still the

curiosity about how the cigar

deserves to wear the League of

provided #9 band.

Thankfully the technical

performance is good and smoking

time isn't too long, but neither

of those has me thinking I'll be

returning to this ventola

anytime soon.

So this is a redux.

So we have the score today and

then you can try to guess the

original.

OK.

All right, let's go 79.

How many blinks of that?

7.

He's not going pee pee.

I'm going to say 77.

I do have to pee.

What did he say?

79. 51 You went the right way.

Wow, 51.

Fires today performance problems

happens to everybody.

OK, original score.

Original score.

Phil back.

In 2018.

Well, he said he didn't change

much from it, so let's do 52.

60. 76.

He said he didn't change much.

We he.

Said the cigar didn't change

much.

He didn't say the score.

Oh, it's not working.

Get our money back.

It's out of stock.

It was half full on Friday.

Oh, he must have beat Greg.

It's out.

It's out of stuff.

It was half full Freddy.

It's out all.

Right, I'll check it.

Go to me.

Those things use a lot of

powder, huh?

Yeah.

I mean, Greg goes, oh, you'll

never run out of stuff.

Yeah.

Bull.

Yeah, how much is the powder, by

the way?

I don't know, it came with.

Yeah, but it's going to run out,

I know.

So apparently we get just about

20 days out of a pack.

Yeah.

And I split it between the two P

2 units.

I went again.

I mean, it's really it's high.

No it.

Wasn't he?

Wasn't excuse.

Me, he got the third one.

Yeah.

Because you got the the redux

the way you sneak in an extra

score.

W.

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No, no, it's a different. 10

Really.

Yeah, he kept trying to teach

Greg, and Greg couldn't get it

right.

Yeah, we'll get right in.

There as close to what he just

said.

Camille.

No.

All right, guys.

Thank you very much.

Bye bye.

I'll wait.

Do more time boop.

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